"Three-Tool Player" (w/ Aparna Nancherla)

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I'm talking, of course about the Christmas season. Yes, we see a lot of these things. What am I talking about? Bowls, bowls of candy. We have no such ball on the table. No, but laying free in front of us is many pieces of candy. And you had pointed this out like a true socio sociologist anthropologist. Thank you said it's the time of year when people are sticking their fingers and bowls of candy. And I said, wow, I didn't realize that was the seasonal behavior. Well, they do that with nuts

all year round on bartops. We all know, we've seen the bowls of nuts, and we hope, I hope to avoid the bowls of nuts. I was gonna say, I don't get near them. I don't get near those. But then all of a sudden, when it's like candy during the season, I don't even think about it. I dive right in. And what's the difference. There's no difference. I guess you're getting sick either way. And is it good

or bad bacteria? We talked about this, we did. And also, you know what, probably a lot less kids at the bar where the nuts are probably a lot more kids at the family gatherings where there's the bowl of cans. The kids, though, have some sort of monitoring system built in where the parents are like Tanner, wash your hands, but listen, no adults, no adult is getting that sort of system built around. So it's a dirtier at the bar.

I guess it also matters what's happening at the bar, you know, are they are they um in an engaging conversation with someone that they're dating, and they run to the restroom. They go to the bathroom, maybe they don't wash their hands on the way, and then all the hand goes into the nuts. It's just crazy, It's just crazy, you know what, In these crazy times, I think we need to bring in a very special guest. Yeah, we need a rock, We need a rock. And she's she's

here with us tonight and truly we're so excited. Um and you know we're we're thrusting all this responsibility on her. But that's fine. She's the rock. She's the rock. Okay, you guys, I mean, come on, she's the female Dwayne Johnson, the female industry. Absolutely, she's always selfiing from skyscrapers. Um, just like Dwayne does. Okay, guys, um our guest. You know you've seen her and everything. You've laughed at her words and everything. Master of none about Jack Horseman. Um. Oh,

she's in this new Hardconda Bulu series. The problem with that pooh she makes She makes a little appearance in that, and I didn't mean to scale it. I didn't mean to qualify with little appearance. It's an appearance. And now talk about what's premiering in January. It's just something about a new series on Comedy Central Corporate. I can't wait. I've seen the promos. They're nice, minimalistic. I go, what could this be? And I can't wait to find out.

I can't wait either. Maybe she'll tell us about it, and she's reading for l Seth Meyers um. And you can check out her amazing album that came out last year. Just putting it out there. That's the title. Wow, right, see you were just putting it out there. And also the title and also that's and I wonder that thought went into the naming of it, that it just sprows off the tongue like like a phrase, like an expression.

I guess we'll find that when we speak to you. No, I did say, feel free to dive int here's the thing. Don't feel pressure because, as we said, it's a germ spreader. Yeah, but I'm not. That's not why I was told, like not showing restraint. Okay, sure do you show usually show restrain around something as hazardous, like like infectiously hazardous as a bowl of Barnetts for example. I don't think I'm a germophob if if that is the qualifying standard. No,

you don't think you are? No, No, okay, I think I think it's good for immune system. Absolutely, you have to expose yourself a little bit. Yes, you know. I know people that won't even touch the rails on the subway, right, And I said, this is problematic because then you become a projectile on the subway and you're flying all around, hurting people, and that to me is more dangerous. It's dangerous and unacceptable, unacceptable socially. Socially, then everyone's responsible for

your physics exactly. I will say a partner, I wouldn't reach for the eminem's just now because I have three in my hand. You have three brown ones. I have three brown ones just by eight coincidence, and I'm scared to put them in my mouth because I don't want the mic to pick up the chewing. Do you ever see the movie, Um, what is it? It's with Matthew McConaughey and Jennifer Lopez, is it not? I'm not made wedding? Okay?

Do you remember in the Wedding Planner when um, I think it was either him or her and they were picking I think it's him. And he was a dentist in the movie, a pediattrician, he was the movie. So he's picking out all the colored eminem's and she's like, why are you doing that? And he's like, well, I'll figure that. Um, you know, these ones are brown, so there's got to be less artificial flavoring in them. And so I figure out, only eat the brown ones because

then you're getting less artificial flavoring. And I thought that myself. That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of my entire life wrote that line? Or do you think it was improv? An improv baby? Imagine to keep this was like, I actually thought this amazing improv and it's science, It's based in science. Yeah, he did character research. What I'm saying that he thought like he truly believed that the artificial coloring thing was true and he brought

it to the table. We'll never know, We'll never know, We'll never know. Are you J Lott fan? I like J Low but I wouldn't. I don't know if I to identify as a thing. Right, you appreciate what she is? If you if she was in a room with you and you felt so compelled and moved to go up to her strike up a conversation. Um, would you would you? Would you say I'm a fan? I think I might out of nervousness just say it. But this is something that our our last guest Guy said, are two guests ago?

Guy said? What did he say? Betty had some strong opinion, very strong, but he's he He always appreciates it when people approach a celebrity and a collegial status that they're on the same level as that person, which is kind of insane. Well, they say, you don't want to appear as like a fan because then you're like a crazy fan.

Oh I see, I see it. So I feel like you, a partner could just walk up to j Low and then just start talking about your projects and then she'd be like, Okay, yes, I think of j is such a I think anytime someone has multiple hats or they're like hyphenated in there, you know work, Yes, I think I get intimidated because I don't even know where to place her, right, It's like, and how does she identify? You know? What is she identifying that? Particularly as an

actress or a recording superstar? And the onus is not on you to figure it out, right, So it's impossible. You shouldn't talk the answer the right answer. What you shouldn't have spoken to her. It's actually rule number sixty four of culture. Never speak to a multi don't speak. But aren't I would I would characterize you as a multi hyphenet. I guess, yeah, I mean I think in comedy it's interesting because you can write and act and tweet and tweet. You can act tweet and that's what

they call you a three tool player. Yeah, you're a triple tool, triple threat. No triple threat of singing, dancing, acting. This is a triple player. So I think that's why, because she's a triple threat in the traditional but of course she's she's a worthless tweeter. We're all three tool players at this table, three three tool players. Of course, the fourth tool of my attap shows. There you go, there you go. If you had a fourth tool, what

would it be? Uh? This talent? We don't know about you? Reading? Yes, the books so essential, essential, and then to read in this industry, and I don't think enough people read in this industry. You know. Okay, we can talk about this. Let's talk about it because we're else. We're gonna talk about it. I I've fallen off on my reading until recently, and now I'm picking I'm picking it up again. It feels right here we go, talk about the talk about

this book that you just read. And then from the table. Sure. So I just um flew back in from Thanksgiving on Sunday and on the plane right I've finished Called Me by Your Name, the book by Andrea Simon, and then loved it. Was directly enraptured by the book and raptured by the book. UM had some issues with the pacing,

as I've mentioned and documented on this program. But then we landed and has read the finished the book within minutes of landing, and I was like, I have to to see this movie tonight, um, And I really just took advantage of my New York l a privilege of early releases, and I went by myself to go see it, and UM, you know, went went head first, dove, head first into the waters of this adaptation and was of course disappointed because how is it going to live up

to a to a book where every character's emotionally realized and flashed out? And so I didn't like it. And then I just let me say this, ultuistas, there is a whisper network of gay men and just queer people who do not like call me by your name the movie, and I count myself. I'm going to out myself as mine. I would say, you were you were really holding back right now because you literally have said to me end quote and I quote, now, fuck that movie. I did not say that. I did not say that, you said

you hated it. I'm going to out someone else right now. Friend of the show, our guests of the pod John Early, because wow, you are too much is a public figure. You can get it. I don't know. This is what happened. You can get upon it. In Trouble have the biggest five tool players got five tools and more and the singing and well John, this is what so John tweeted. Literally, this was a convergence of call me by your name things.

Right before I stepped into the movie, I'm on Twitter as as we one of the tools, and then I see John tweets call me by your nah, and everyone is like, whoa what Incendi probably got many reactions on got a lot of reactions, and I was like, imagine. I was like, Okay, I guess John didn't like the movie. And I watched it, and I will I will confidently say it did not color my perception or did not

sway me one way or the other. But I watched it, and then I came out of the movie and I texted Johnny out, John, I just I just came out of call me by your name too. And I didn't like it either, Oh my god, unless you didn't. Unless And I was like, I was like, and I think I hate it too. Unless you didn't hate OMG. And then he talks back like twenty minutes later he was like, no, I fucking hated it. And he was the one who said, and I have the receipts and maybe maybe this is unfair.

You are he said, fuck that movie well and he and then he tweeted Michael Stuelbark, who plays the father who has this amazing mone at the end performance, he goes, Michael Stuelbarg, Michael Stuart Stuelbarg fucking sucks too, but you and so John is John Is. Them's fighting words, them's fighting words. Those are he's coming out for calling. Have you seen coming by your name? Do you know? Ye? Well, honestly, I would say and somebody asked me to study, like

should I see this? And I was like, I feel like you should see people should see it. Um. Here's the thing, though, I feel like it's not for a queer audience. It's for straight people or it's just for people to like understand that like queer narratives have this latent desire built into them and this is like the

the example of that. Um. But like all like we'll we'll go and we'll be like oh yeah, like and even like even people who understand like what that is will go to that movie and be like yeah, no, duh, yeah of course, like like in order to understand that that nothing happens in your gay life until later. You don't need nothing to happen in the first hour. That's with the with the pacing, with the tension building. So UM a partner, I expect a full review after you

see it. I will live tweet it. Thank you. Yeah, I would say that you need to use one of your tools. Is there this is for the table? Is there a movie that was better than the book? Oh? I want to say, yeah, right, there's got to be one. Well, definitely any movie where the book was made after the movie well yes, well yes, you know what I've never read. But no, I don't think it can possibly be as good as the movie the Devil Wars product. Yes, because

you don't have Mertyl Streep in the book. Famously, she can do a lot of things. She can't appear in a book. She can't appear in a book. Neither can Emily Blunt Let's Not Forget or the Way also can't appear in the lead singer of UM Rooney can either who was in that UM but also, um, the Wizard of Oz of course unless unless because the book is maybe more mythologized more completely. But the I mean the movie though, movies pretty iconic. So we we've answered the question.

I don't know. I think we've answered that. Do you do you think that there's a book that's better or I don't even know the Yes, it was it was. I think that, um, it was like a former like she wrote for like some tabloid or like and and she was and then she came out with this book and it like, of course, to the Road by Storm, the World by Storm, honey. But we're with school for you. I went to college in western Massachusetts, Okay, Amherst, Amherst,

Amherst Amherst College. It's one of the Amherst. When people say Western mass not maybe not necessarily. I'm that was just a lucky guess. Amherst is a great town. It is very new aging. Yeah, very liberal, unusual for a college house in Massachusetts. Absolutely, even that all the Western Masses kind of rural. No, I don't know. I think Western mass is weirdly progressive or at least this area,

I think because of the colleges. But I think You're right, like Boston has some very conservative strange so yeah, you can't be that loud and drunk and be a liberal person, be and be for a single pair. Um well, Boston College. Yes, I did to get that that. I didn't understand what a jesuit school was. And then I don't know why I didn't understand it, but I didn't understand it. But we went there to look at it, and I was like, oh, absolutely not, absolutely not. You're not even in Boston proper.

Is that true? You're not in Boston properly diversity honey, Right in Boston proper toughs honey, Yes, honey Emerson, right in the heart of the city. Absolutely. You walk out and there it is the harbor jay Leno what their biggest alumni. Yes it is. They wouldn't stop talking about jay Leno. There. Wow, we'll look get up at the break. I'm almost positive I'm right, just like I was almost positive that Hugh Hefner was dead four months prior to him being dead. So I broke the news of his

death on the show. Yes, and then we had to record something to put go in front of the episode. I said, just kidding, he's not dead. Excuse the first five minutes of this episode absolutely where I confirmed the passing of you Hefner, but presciently you did. But I'm more confident saying that Jay Leno went to Emerson, but you're there's still a degree of uncertainty. I would say that I am willing to risk it all a partner, besides will risk at all. Besides, I was going to

say something so annoyou. I was gonna say, besides you, who is like the biggest alumn to come out of Amherst? But just who is the biggest aleman to come out of Amherst? No, I think, um, David Foster Wallace. Oh that's a good one. Probably probably a little bit bigger than you. I would say, Oh, fun, Yeah, I would say David Boster Walls probably went out of the three

of you guys. I'm gonna say, um, I want like the Hours type movie where um, you followed David Foster Wallace at college you follow that best or at college you follow art college and a partner, a partner goes to a UCB show in her youth with with what I just I'm enraptured with with a copy of you know, infinite justin. I was gonna try to go for another, but I couldn't think about um uh, And you know

it all converges at a partner. Absolutely, you'd be the Meryl Streep and that scenario and then we haven't we have brought it back around. She can't be on the pages of a book, but she can be in this dream scenario of the film. Absolutely, and a partner would be played by Meryl. Yes, yes, absolutely, as we all hope to be. Yeah, but she can pull off. No

one would be mad that. No one would be mad that Meryl will be playing just someone no physical resemblance at all, right now, people would be I think Meryl would be amazing me. I think she'd play me amazing. She would be Yeah, I think she would do us all justice. I don't know, because we are different, we look we look absolutely, but you know, if anyone was going to do it that like, it would be Meryl. Yeah.

I don't think she would approach either my nor partner's sort of emotional for partner's case emotional complexity, for my case emotional simplicity. She would overshoot it. Horrible thing. She would add depth to me that was not there. And I think that's I think that would that would play that that would that would be very very easily just people would see that and be like, that's would be so transparent people. The Bone was never like this, you know,

Bone was not this emotionally mature. So that's that. That's my thing with Meryl. Do you think that the author that she played in adaptation was as wonderfully fabulous to watch as Meryl was in adapt to adaptation you're talking about UM. You think dingle Ate my Baby was this amazing mirror you're talking about UM. But for adptations there was an Arlene who is wonderful has their own podcast. Now that's fine. Is she as good as Meryl strip to watch? I don't stop it? She taught some she

taught some classes in YO. I don't care. Okay, take something. Everyone's podcast. I don't want to a podcast nowadays everyone teaches that. In EO everyone has a podcast. Horrible part. Do you still have your podcast? We're trying to resuscitate it. It's good to shop it around to a network. You got to have a network these days. We love our people that forever Dog Hi, Hi, Hot Producer, Joe. They're not our people there are people their own and we

work together. There are people it's horrible for you, don't not not the literal possessive. I'm just saying they're on they're in our camp. Partner. You have to you have to find the right people and you have to be able to call them. Are people comfortably? Have you guys been working together from the beginning from the jump and you asked about since birth? You asking about since birth? Yes, we didn't know each other and when we were born,

but many years later we did meet. And then from that point I made it from when we met, um, But I will say that we have had some difficult moments with who with me and you? Okay? Like what? Well, I would say that in the very beginning of our relationship, Bone was threatened by me, not because of why you think, which I don't know why you think, but he thought that I was straight and trying to date the girl

that he liked. Allegedly. Yes, we did have a difficult moment about a female but a female woman, and this was when we were both in the closet um early days of college, and I felt threatened and I said this, Bowen thought that I was going to date Sherman Bielfelds, who now works at bark Box. I saw her at the place where I waited tables the other day, and I I saw her at Brooklyn Crab, like at the

our old friend Mung. She came into Brooklyn Crab where I wait tables and I saw her and it was like I had to do it like a double tech. In fact, I took their order first and then I was like, oh my god, you are mom and she was like yes, Hi, And then we had we had a conversation and I texted Bone of course, and it took me back to this place of animosity. Yeah. Um, but where did you guys go to college? And it

isn't crazy that she would show up you? No, no, no, no, no no. In fact, it I would say likely, It was likely, but um, you know that was to think that Matt and Matt and I, um, just our origin story starts with over a girl. It's very ironic crazy,

you know. I would also say we probably have to be like what the one hundred seven thousand most notable person of n y U. Probably of people more notable than us from there, not like Amherst where it's like you David fuster Wallace investor that the Olsen twins coming at n y U. It would have to be like the hundreds that puts us at least three and four. I forgot they went to school. They did, they did,

they did. Um a partner, We're going to ask you the question now that we ask all of our guests, which is what was the culture that made you say cultures? For me? What was the culture that m was? Um formative wrapped wrapped in a in a blanket, um tied to the beak of a stork. Yeah. The stork flew in with a little, you know, a little a male boy cap and just gently placed it on your doorstep, and you opened it and you said, Wow, I've arrived

at culture. You remember the scene from the Prince of Egypt, the movie animated film about the birth of Moses and the story of Moses. You remember in the beginning of the film when Moses goes down the river in the basket and arrives from the movie at the feet of the pharaohs. Um, you are the pharaohest here and Moses is the culture that Oh? Wow? Yeah, wait, would that one count as the book better than the movie? Yes? Yes, yes, I think the Prince of Egypt is better than the Bible,

at least Exodus, the book about I had much better songs. Yes, absolutely, I can't say any of these songs in the Bible. Bible ned more songs than needed a much better um uh score, yes absolutely um. But that's the question. I feel like. I feel like I started, um like, I tried to go back really early when I was thinking about this question, and I just landed at Sesame Street. But then I was like, is that what? Everyone beautiful? They don't say that, but you know what that's because

they're not smart enough to say that. And Sesame Street, I mean, it's what what a nice universal touchdown? Oh my gosh. I wonder if it still is though, because it is, it affects lots of kids still to this day. And you know what they do, which I think is really good. There's an autistic character. Yes, they've heard about this. Yeah, they did him a second where it was like they flashed to Sesame Street and it was there's an autistic character.

And there's her best friend who kind of like uh not speaks for her but helps her communicate because she's there with her, and they're kind of like a due on the show. But it's beautiful, it's wonderful, and they're little cute muppets. They're adorable. I love it. And didn't they have the first HIV positive character? They did? They did, they did, but he was he was also a muppet. He she was also up day. They were a I believe a character on the show a muppet. I don't

think they were an actor. No, but that's what I'm saying. It's like you hear about it doing all these groundbreakings, Like God, I didn't even know that was still on. I love that answer. Now what um, let's say you were being asked you were broked on Sesame Street? What was and you were being presented with you had to

present the letter of the day. What's your letter? Oh man, I'm I'm gonna go with and and you know what, Yeah, and then you and then there's a little snap, there's some eminem's and then you go no, no, no, we're going to nibble and m m's. I think that's wonderful. That's beautiful. Who would your seen partner be? Who was your favorite character in SSS? I loved Grover. Grover Grover is the best one that Grover is the best one. Who is your favorite? I love that grouch, Oscar the Grouch,

I love I love like a I'm apologetic. She I referred to her the gradges. She she was never having it. No. I recently I saw a little bust of Oscar the Grouch and it was like something you could stand next to impose. And then I just satis to that thing and we threw a lot of shay an Oscar, Oscar. I like that Oscar the Groucher. Cookie Monster is the one to Oh yeah, cookie Monster. Grover was so it was so lovely and loving, and Grover had no hang

ups like Cookie Monster. The only subject matter you could talk about with him was cookies. So what I'm saying with Grover, you can open up and you don't. He's not going to hijack the conversation from you. I gotta tell you something. I can't picture Grover in my mind's eye. You don't know what who the do you know where we're do? You don't know what we're talking about? Super Grover within with a little Knight's House, Yes, oh my god, in the Cape. You don't know Grover, the Little Elmo,

the Blue Cookie Monster, Blue Blue one with the pink nose. Yeah, no, I only had time. Only I have time for two blue Sesame Streets, and it's Cookie Monster and Gonzo dot Com is a muppet. I mean they're all technically muppets, but like Gonzo is more Jim Hens. You're telling me Gonzo wasn't in Sesame Street. He might have made it a cameo like Kermit would every now and then, but he wasn't a staple character. Oh my god, is it

crazy that we're not saying Big Bird? Absolutely? I never loved Big Bird and I feel bad saying that even out loud. What is it about unpacked? I think, I think, Um, I don't know. I think I may be too big trying to feel weird about saying out loud because you know what I saw. I saw that Billy on the Street episode where was Big birdy Michelle Obama in that grocery store, and I did not understand the engineering behind

that puppet. I was like, how many people are in There's got to be a person in a suit, right, But it's it's like an eight foot tall thing. It's on still se guarantee. But then no, because the arms and the arms are gigantic, The hands are gigantic. Someone's operating the blinking like and the mouth like, what helm? What is the mechanism? I think it's also because a lot of the muppets felt like kids to me, and for some reason, Big Bird did not feel like a kid.

But I think that might have been my size bias. Your your size in the in the queer community, your size queen. Um. And I want to say that Big Bird a little two chilled out and I said, kid, it really it rattled, it was jarring. I was like, why is he that calm? No one should be this calm. I don't get it at all. I think it's very disquieting. I agree with you, And I also would say that, um, what would you say? I would say that big bird, Um.

The timbre of Big Bird's voice something was very wrong like this, Yeah, something was very wrong bird story like that. But they don't talk like that. Also, I have to answer this question, what kind of bird is that? I mean, we don't that's that's we get that. We understand that it's a big bird, but we don't know what kind of bird that is. And I demand, and you're you are setting an unrealistic expectation in child's minds about what an avian creature looks like. Yeah, they don't look like that.

They don't look like that. They certainly don't. And honestly, is this sort of ostrich because and it's certainly why is it in New York? Certainly why you know what? This is a fashion icon on Sesame Street. The Count, I'm saying, the Count is a count of the accessories, the cape, Yeah, the hair. You're gonna come for Cookie about being just about cookie, and you're not going to come for Count about just being counting. It's ridiculous. Numbers,

very pro capitalism. I would argue that the Counts obsession with numbers means that he wants to have a conversation. He wants to talk to the world in terms of universal languages, which is math, which is numbers. Everyone knows what numbers are. Everyone can relate to numbers no matter what. I'm with you now, it's a universal language. The Count is a diplomat, the diplomat of Tessamey. Straight. Yeah. Absolutely, I would say, I love Elmo, but I have a

problem with Elmo. Yeah, And it's less to do with Elmo as a person and more to do with the way I believe he was presented. Over time, his thing became too much about tickling. And you know, as we go for a time, you have this idea that you know, not everyone would want to be tickled, invitations to tickle, the the the child that was Elmo. I just I don't know if I feel comfortable with his image being tickle. Yes, did you guys see Tickle the documentary? No, I've heard

about this up and down. Though I'm normally not disturbed, it was super disturbed. But also because I don't even know, I don't want to give it away, not that you can really give a documentary away. Talk more about it, though, I feel like Tickle is like it's like a it's like a documentary front, like the premises a front, and then when they when you learn what it actually is, it gets a lot darker. Oh no, yeah, it's like, um, million dollar baby, it's a millionar but the front is

a rom com. But then you realize it's more than that. It's more than that. It's it's a sports film. You haven't seen that film. I haven't. You haven't seen million Dollars. Maybe I don't like dollars. Here's here I'll tell you this when you you know a little bit about Million Dollar Baby. What do you think it's about in sports? Boxing? Right? You think it's about boxing? It's not. I will give you what a way what it is. It is a drama about euthan asia. Really, who's being euthanized? Would you

like me to tell you? Spoiler alert for those of you out there who have not seen the two thousand four film that one Best Picture at the Oscars, Million Dollar Baby, I'm going to give away the end of stop tell you in the movie very much in the film in a supporting role. Okay, who gets euthanized. There is a scene where Hilary Swank is boxing and she is there's a break in the match and she swung at by her competitor. She gets punched, falls and she

snaps her neck on the chair. So this happens, like I'm gonna say, there's a chair nearby. Listen. Best Picture winner. We can't argue with that. The logic is inarguable, you know, like many before. So just like Crash, you can't argue with perfect film. It just one. It's perfect. Nothing problematical horrible about it at all, not even a bad script. It won So she snaps her neck on this chair, which is there, and then this happens about two thirds of the movie in so there's a lot of movie

left to go. The check offs gun of the movie is a chair. I don't even think the chair appears in the first thing. So there's no warning about this chair. There's never even a character that says, like, better watch out for these chairs. You know, if you leave him out, someone could snap that at And but you're not, You're you're saying there's not even one seating suitable piece of furniture in the first two after it's very suspect, but

one best picture, okay, we can't question it. Okay. So so she does snap her neck on this chair, and she's unconscious, she becomes paraplegic, and so there is no one there or okay, her mother is very like white trash, like wants her to like give her the money that she has from being a boxer or something like they want to like this is very upsetting scene where like all her life, Hillary tried to gain the favor of her family and like the love of her family, and um,

she's the mother comes there and she's like pretending to love her and everything, and then she wants her to sign um this piece of paper that says they're going to get all her money or something. And she comes literally in her like Disney World Mickey Mouse shirt, like they're like on the way, I think, and she goes as far as to put the pen in Hillary Swank's mouth to get because she can't use the rest of

her body. She's a quadriplegic. She's a quadriplegic. She's a complete yes, she's completely unable to move from the Okay, there's harrowing scenes of her trying to like end it because she's like a boxer. She wants to live, she wants she doesn't want to live anymore. It's horrible and you don't you think the movie is going to be about a woman boxer, but it's nuts paraplegia. It's very

quadra quadriplegia. So she puts the pen in Hillary Spank's mouth and Hillary supposed to like sign it with her mouth, and Hillary Spank, Hillary Swank, Hillary Spank, She's spits out the pen and says get out of here, and the mother like leaves in a huff. And so she says to Clint Eastwood, you know what I want you to do? And he she is giving him the message that she doesn't want to live anymore and she's not able to carry this out, so she puts it to him to

make the decision to end her life and he does. WHOA, that's a lot. That is a lot. It is a lot. I wish you could see. Actually that was always so heartbreaking about it because like it want all these oscars and always finally want the second best actually Ascar who Like it's gonna be about boxing, gonna be triumphant, story of the spirit, triumph, triumph, triumph, triumph, and then you go there and it's just just devastating. Yeah, it's hard,

and he's really plays some real tragedies. Yeah, she doesn't know how to do light. Hilary Swank, she did one light movie. I want to say, what did she do that was ever? Besides playing Heidi Clum in an snl ST. She was really good and she was a really good Heidi Clum on project. Yeah, she bizarrely does all these tragedies and then she's like one of the better likes. Yeah, you know what, I think. I think there's a there's a campaign to be had about about booking her for something. Um,

you know light you know what Freedom writer. Remember that movie she did Freedom that you know that had some darkness in it. You know that kind of been a joy to watch the whole time. She was in a movie about like, Hi, I'm a white woman at this all black school and we're going to how to write literally I Love you. Sure she was in PS I Love You and her husband is dead in the time. All Right, you're right, she's heavy, having its follows her. She's heavy. Let me tell you something, she's no nothing

wrong with heavy though she's no Rachel McAdams. Well, all right to any actress that's been in any light movie anyway. Um, Sesame Street. Yes, I just want to just to Sesame Streight. Um. And you know, for me, growing up a little little boy not really knowing what English is, it was a very it was a very nice thing to have. That's you know that that that that's just what I wanted

to say. I'm getting looks. I was no, I was just I just suddenly had a flashback to when I was in like maybe fourth grade, and this girl who was like the cool girl said she never watched ses My Street even when she was little and I was so disturbed by what it took to be cool in my mind. What happened to her that what I don't know, what it took to be cool in your mind was like withhold like just or just not well that even when you're like four, you know that sys Street is

for babies. Damn that sucks for that even when you're four, Like, being cool is not engaged with something. I hate that. I hate superiority. I think it's the least a track active quality, well outside of like you knows, which is a form of superiority. Absolutely, thank you, Yeah, you're welcome. I just I don't like it when people come in there and they say I'm not doing that, I'm better than this, or when they roll their eyes like I remember this is this happened to me in high school.

We were playing man Hunt and we're far too old. Were playing and some kid drove up in his car and he was two years younger than us too. We were like seventeen years old playing man Hunt. I'm not familiar. Manhunt is like Hide and go Seek, but higher steaks because it takes place hard at night and on a larger scale. Okay, okay, okay, okay, And he was like,

I'm not going to play man Hunt. And I was like, wow, you are so much better than Although if you were in a social situation now and everyone was like, let's play man hunt and hide around the fucking city, you'd say no for different reasons. You wouldn't say no because you were better than you would say no because and listen, that's not safe. We live in New York City a good time in this climate. Absolutely absolutely to be jumping

out screaming. I just I just think there's a really fine line between superiority and just discomfort and saying no. You're putting a lot of you're putting a lot of stigma on saying no, and that's not the time to be doing this. So I think you should really think about what you're saying. Matt. I'm sorry, party, you're catching us at a really antagonistic time. Um, but you know this is this is just the dynamic. It's because of

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the marketing for the show, Corporate is very minimalist. I don't really know. I haven't seen anything about it yet explained all the promo sports, so I'm not sure even what you've seen, I've seen subway posters. Oh yeah, that is very minimal. Which is just Comedy Central is corporate. It's very It's very much like what the Netflix is doing, Like Netflix is a joke. I feel like it's sort of pulling from that same idea. Maybe I'm not getting it.

I'm still not getting it's just it's all it is is that that the ads are Comedy Central is like corporate or something, and it's just white letters on black nothing else. After having been in the show, do you know what it is? More than like what they would let on in the in the because it sounds like

the people making the posters don't know what it is. Yeah, Oh well, it is a workplace comedy about a giant Soulis corporation, So I think maybe they're trying to emulate that soullessness and how it's this like monolith brand and everyone sort of just squirms under its reach. Now, what's your role in the show. I am the two main characters. They're like junior executives, and I am their friend who works in HR. You're the HR wker, the OFT I'm going to say the OFT sort of worshiped or OFT maligned.

It's it's very hard to live in a middle ground with HR. In my experience, I've never had an HR person. I've only ever worked in restaurants and the like, right, they never have, They absolutely not, and that's the place where they should be the most. So you guys have both dealt with HR people. Yes, So did you pull? Did you pull from real life? Yeah? But it's funny because this show is like sort of the whole, Like

corporations are people, mentality, capitalism is king. So I think the HR person in this environment is a little bit always at odds with Okay, so you're sort of like an antagonizing antagonistic yeah, where I'm just like struggling with trying to do my job. Yes, yes, oh I would watch you do that for a hundred episodes syndicate. I am yes, I love that. I'm so excited. What is the premiere? January? Okay, that's a Wednesday. How do you know this? Why do you know? I just I have

that weekend. But you have a sixth tool. I have a sixth tool, which is calendars, Gregorian calendars. Unbelievable that you just no, no, no, no, it's amazing stop incredible. Um, that's a So. Who's ind I like, I really don't know anything. What the show us? Jake Weisseman and Matt Ingbertson or the two leads, and they co wrote and created it with Pat Bishop, who's the director. Rates I love Jake Wiseman. Yeah, they're they're both real good in it.

Nice nice, nice, And then um is it? Just give it? Give us the whole rundown single cam single no laugh track, no laugh track. Okay, okay, while I'm out, I'm not watching that. I need I need multicam laugh track. Do you like any of those shows now? Like any multi camp, the multicam loop. Yeah, I wouldn't even know what is I should be watching. All I know are comedians, I know making fun of Young Sheldon, right of course. And that's not even a multi camp. It's not I have

to break the news about not a multi camp. It is a single cam show. And I was shocked when I was watching it, and do like we hate that. I think I hate it and I would hate it either way. But I'll tell you what I was watching prior to that, and then I saw that Young Sheldon was what it was the show Mom with Alison, Jenny and fis. Yeah, it's funny. I've heard that before, that

it's funny. And also I will say this, it's like the Land of Lost comunic Actresses because Jamie Pressley is yeah, and Missy Pyle isn't great and it's like the four of them and you're like, where are they like like and there that's where they are. And I'm sure they're getting CBS money. They're doing fun The great. I will say Jamie Presley was in a fat suit. No fat suit comedy is like alive and well on CBS. None

of us know about it. But what's happening, like like her character always her no, no, no, I think that her character on the show has gained weight and it's funny and she's in a fat suit and that's funny. See. I think this is all signaling towards um there there will I I can't wait for the next prestige multi cam show. I think we're due for that. What would

you say the last one was? I mean like maybe Seinfeld, I mean that whatever, that's like the in terms of actual prestige, in terms of like what's what garnered awards a lot of the Adventures of Things, the Adventures of Christine Want, things like How I Met Your Mother? And then like there's also Two and a Half Man. Was it was nominated for ship doesn't mean it's actually good. But in terms of prestige, I guess mom she won

Best Supporting Actress. A couple of times I'm saying, like something that is like actually good, I'm no, not even that, because I'm sure these shows are great, but it's like something that is not necessarily pandering towards like, of course Middle America, which is fine, Like there's I'm just saying, there's plenty of that. Populist is populist for a reason, Populist people like and so I just wanted to be like a multi came show that's like a little bit

like whoa. This is like specialized in some way, you know, That's all I'm saying, but corporate. Okay. I'm so exciting now because it's got great people, it's got you, and it's it's it's a very relevant premise and um I can't wait to see it. What else can you tell us about it? Um? So? The CEO is played by Lane and Spreddick and he's really great. Oh I know him from Lost Yeah and Wire even Wow, he's kind of scary. Is He's perfect? Great? So good? Okay, great casting, Okay,

great casting. I want to say one more thing about Mom, because you moved on to another conversation like that, and this is what I want to say. Okay, it's it is bordering on a prestige topic because it's about a mother and daughter who are both recovering alcoholics, and everyone on the show is a recovering alcohol that's great, which which is good. And also I think it's like it does. It's not like, well, she fell off the wag. It's not that kind of humorous. It's just about these women

who are and it's all women. The cast is all women, and it's about these women that have this kind of community that they were alcoholics. Every episode I think has like at least a scene in a where they're all kind of chatting and talking to each other and it's actually this kind of nice thread and it's actually there were some moments in it that was actually funny. Yes, that was a fat suit, but you know, I guess

on CBS you can't have at all. But it was a different kind of thing, you know what I mean. I was like, oh, I can actually see that being brought into a pitch meeting and being like, huh, yeah, that's actually really interesting. And you know, it's not like you know, your thirty rocks or you're whatever's It didn't have fat suits either, employed some sort of humor that was in that same vein what are you saying that

Tina fe isn't perfect? No, I'm saying that, like that kind of humor, that kind of humor sort of like pervades everything. I mean it's through everything. Yeah, I mean, like there's gonna be easy jokes everywhere. It's just that this character is like arc right now is that she's fully in a fat suit and it's just like it's just funny that that's happening. And we don't know what

do you mean? We don't know because that's not that show isn't like our jam Sure, but it's like, I mean you have like you have like fat suit Betty drap Burr, and like that's it's not a comedy, but it's like it's that same thing of like whoa like this is her stories that she gained weight, Like, well, I well that's different. I think. Okay, here's what I

think it's different because Betty's waking. That's like a dramatic beat in her character's life, whereas Jamie Presley wearing a fat suit on Mom is two figures into her journey coming out of alcohol. Maybe maybe I'm just saying the way it was depicted in both well, you know what, maybe I'm wrong. They both also had a dark black wig because of course you're nuts. I don't know what's going on. They look like a fucking man look much worse, much worse, much much worse. Um, I mean I um,

I think there. I never watched um god, I never watched Workaholics. I feel like I've been like really jonesing for like a workplace comedy too, because I'm interested. Yeah, I wasn't a big Workaholics pert than either, but it was you know, massively popular. That was a single camera. That was single cam. I feel like some people say it like it paved the way for broad City in

some way. That was just like this like really buddy vibe, the buddy vibe, and like, you know, you flip it, and this might seem simplistic too, but you flip that, like what if it were two women. Well, it feels like Comedy Central kind of has like audiences right now. They have like their broad City and inside Amy Schumer audience, and then you got your like Workaholics and like Tosh audience. So where would you say that the show fits in

totally if you were, Well, that's what's interesting. It doesn't feel like it fits squarely in either of right, because I think there are veins of Um, I wouldn't say it's browie at all, which I think tash and workaholics might welcome brows more easily, but it's not anti bro either, so I feel like they might not know what exactly how to feel about it. But see, I like that this is like a four quadrant. I say, a four quadrant show hits all the quads. What are the quads

you would call? I would say, Um, you know, I'm not gonna you know you traditionally you would break this down by aid group and by gender. But I know, well, that's what the industry is doing, and so we should do it too, because the industry is, of course right absolutely, I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying I'm gonna let's let's all make our own quadrants. Maybe as an exercise, I'll start, Um, you know, people who stay at home and um, you know, have like a little tub of

chicken salad in the fridge. Seems like a small quadrant. There's a lot of people fall under the umbrella. And another quadrant is people who um like well, um, like right down on a piece of paper, like must shop for candles? Um, yes, And then but you would be surprised, um, and that this is so general. Um. And then people who um write down on a piece of paper. Um, this is a different quadrant. Must go shopping for candles and chocolate? Yea, how many for there's only one more?

There's only one more candles. You have people with the chicken salad, people that do both. Who do you know? Who? Who write down? Must bike candles and chocolate? Okay? And what's the fourth quad everyone? People who live in Nebraska? Okay? Those are the four quadrants? And I think I think I'm so excited that corporate hits all of those. That's amazing. What would you say the quadrants are for you? For me, there's two. That's not a quadrant. Theres are just two halves. Okay.

For me, there's four. There's ocean people, mountain people yes, desert people yes, and forest people. Which one are you? Yes? Ocean I'm found Long Island, which is an island. Um islanded by water, So I have to be an ocean person. And there's very little mountains or desert or well there's forest. But you know, sure, I'm probably closer to that quadrant. I mean the ocean person. I mean I from I could bring under water too, I should say that. Okay,

I've digged. It was two quadrants. You thought it was two quadrants. No, I thought it was so the so the two axes are age and gender, So I thought it was young males eighteen to thirty four and then everyone else. Wow, well that's I think a part of making a comment. I'd like to make a comment. She'd love to make a comment. And you know what one

of the four quadrants for you? Well, I guess if they get one quadrant, then the other three would be everyone else and separated by what old babies, and third would be non age conforming. That's one we haven't gotten too yet, non non age conforming truly. I mean, who knows I identify nine. I'm not going to be one. I'm not gonna be someone who's who speaks to identity politics around age, whether it's valid or not. But you know what, it's a quadrant, and so we've acknowledged their existence.

Whatever happened with Rachel dol is All, she she sat there, sure she had or has a book coming up? Oh, you gotta get the book. Um. You know, if you're Rachel dol is All and you don't have a book, you missed the boat play her in a movie? Street You know what Why didn't I even think about that? Yeah, I don't know who would play her. I'll tell you what ye to remember when Angelina Jolie straight up did do black face. And what movie Mighty Heart she played

Angelina Jolie. Yeah, she played the journalist Marian Mighty went. Yeah, she played the journalist Pearl who was black. Ever said anything about she was nominated for awards? This was this was within ten years ago. Yeah, this, this is a thing that's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, and it wasn't. It was played straight up. It wasn't like some like comments on that like tropic Thunder, I mean, which still is like right on the edge, but like it was fully

her playing someone who was not her ethnicity. Yeah. Um, I take back what I said about Katherine Hahn because that would be like a little controversial. I think you need to cast someone, um who has the background of both and that would be like a Mia Roudolf. Yeah, yeah, it's if it's not Meryl, if it's not Meryl or of and then if it's not Maya, then it's Catherine my Rudolf actually is amazing actress. Did you see Away

we Go? No Fact, the one with Jim Christen's John Chine very similar, very similar, Maggie Jillen Hall and then Maggie Jillen Hall was good in that. And if you're married to Paul Thomas Anderson, you've got to have the chops. She's she's great in big mouth. Um okay um. So I think this is like I'm scared to watch the show a little bit because it's gonna it's gonna feel

like real. Reason now you put it in her head no no, no, no, no no no no no, and made the show seemed terrify, No, not terrific, because it's going to feel like really, it's gonna just elicit like, wow, capitalism is bad. It's this bad. It's this bad at every level. It's this bad at every company. And but you know what you're making. You're making it humorous, so that will be it's actually one number. It's really number seventy five of culture. You gotta have big humorous. I

gotta make fun of my words. I don't I know my heart. No, I don't know my words, but I know my heart. That's Michael quote Matt Rodgers. Look, I'm gonna watch the show regardless. Look, I think you've done a great job of promoting it. I'm not going to come here and say that you're on a shitty job promoting it. I'm not gonna come over and ship on my guests. A partner. We've been trying to get a partner on the show for what seventeen years? Seventeen years?

And you know what I was since you were one year old? Is your one of course identifies as being eighteen year old woman, partner. I think, um, you um could be cast as young as five. Thank you. Yeah, I know, I know, like maybe, like you know, maybe, I don't know if you're you know, for your next role, if you want to play under your age, over your age, but I think you have you can reach that far back. That's so nice. Have you guys seen Lady Bird? Yes,

I haven't seen it. I haven't either, but I but I was like, oh, she's so young, but then she's playing a little younger playing she's playing Yeah she is. Well. By the time this episode is out, she'll have hosted SNL. I think she'll be wonderful. I'm excited. I'm very excited to acually be wonderful. I think she's a talented actress and also it's a very Irish episode because the musical guest is you to what can you believe that? How huge that is for Ireland's big win. That episode is

the big They better have some Ireland sketches. Yes, I want to see a Blarney stone. Can I tell you something? Yes. I was recently in a room where there was being sketches pitched and somebody wanted to do a sketch about the potato famine. And somebody spoke up and said, we can't do that because it might offend some Irish people. Or there was like a potato joke, and so almost like we can't do that joke because it might offend Irish people. And that's when I think we've just gone

too far. We need to be able to make jokes about potatoes with Irish people in the audience, and we have to laugh at that. Sure. I mean, I call me Jerry sein felt about that. I won't go on to any campus where I can't be an Irish person and sit there and take a take a potato joke. Oh my gosh, what was it punching up? I guess that's a valid question. I don't remember. If it's punching up, then maybe, but you can't punch down at starving Irish people. Yeah,

was it was? It taken down big potato, big potato. I think it's happened long ago enough that we can talk about the potatoes, don't you think? Yeah? Okay, what's your what's your disposition? Now? Nothing? I'm agree. I'm agreeing with you a partner. Let's say you go to a college. Did you do? You still do colleges? You go to a college, you said, they say you can't joke about blank and you and and whatever? This is you? You walk, you go, I'm sorry, I can't do the show. Oh

what would that be? I guess depression? So sure, okay, great? Yeah, And then you'd be like, okay, I can't do that. I can't do the show. It's fair. Do you have a writer at all? When you go to the go to places? I keep forgetting I have to fill one out. Really, I have the default one right now, which is water. It's water, and like usually they'll put out like three granola bars and like two pieces of fruit, and it just looks real sad, but that's a solid right. I

don't know. I would ask for more. I would have decondends. Yeah, I definitely would. I would get probably like a bullish Harries and you know a little bit of microwave popcorn by nearby, just micro wave nothing gourmet, um, and like a kind of whip cream or something, you know. For the of course, there couldn't be anyone speaking to me the whole time. Yes, yeah, I don't want to be

spoking to that seems that seems reasonable. That one's hard because there's all those student papers who want a piece of you. Yeah, and I would not want to talk to them. And if they did speak to me, I would really really really um hurt somebody that would be That would be awful. Absolutely yea um what now I think I still want to I still want to ask a partner, what would what would the additional items be

if you would? Yeah, if if if we had given you, we'd say a point, we can get you anything for your last culture racist appearance. Oh what would I have a requested? Yeah? Oh man, probably the latest self help book. Okay to read while you're waiting for this to go on, just in the mix, just skim through it like bedroom slippers, yes, want to not wear shoes. Um, maybe like a low key pillow. Yeah, it's something just items that you could use to build a nest. Yes, absolutely nesting self care items.

One quick question before we go to I don't think so honey out This is really important when you get home. Shoes come off O me too right away. I feel weird walking around my apartment with my shoes on. I thought you were going to say, I feel we're walking around with shoes, and I was gonna say, yes, I don't want to wear no shoes. If I could get away with not wearing shoes in New York, I would that. It seems like a risk. It seems like a risk. You want to know something kind of weird about me.

I can't sleep with socks on. That's not that's that's not weird. Why there's a qualifier. I can't of a saxon because when I was little, my uncle told us that if we slept with saxon then Boogeyman would get us and come out at the closet. And I still can't sleep. Why would you do that? Because it's a terrorists and emotional terrorists. Can't you have to grow out of that? I know it's so hard. I'm also superstitious because of my mother don't step on any cracks, don't

walk under any ladders. Yeah, I know, it's really crazy. Also the number thirteen. Terrified of the thing. Oh the number, the number number thirteen. Don't like it, black cats, I will turn around and go the other way. I'm not kidding. I'm very superstitious, as Michael Scott on the Office say, I'm not superstitious, but I am a little which I think is one of the great community. Great community quote, and um, you know on that note, I think it's time to go. And time don't think one minutes of

one minutes of quotes. Now, for those of you who don't know, I don't think so, honey, is our segment where we take one minute to rail against something. This episode very measured. We love the vibe. I love the vibe. Um, this is Matt. You said you had one ready, I do I have one. I need to speak on this, Okay. So this is Matt Rodgers. And so Matt will go, I'll go, and then a partner Okay, then I'll be ready. Perfect. Okay, So this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so honey.

Time starts now, I don't think so honey. Megan McCain, Listen, I would take fifteen Jeddedi Jenoiabela's before one. Megan McCain, I don't think so, honey. Megan McCain, you are not who I want to see a co hosting The View. Listen if you're gonna be conservative and blonde on the View, be tolerable. Listen if if when they turn to you to talk about the frilly pop culture stuff, have something

to say. Megan McCain, you're always like, I don't know what we're talking about this when it's like about it's like, bitch, that's what you are there to do. You're there to have an opinion of you on everything. I will say this when this and also I don't think so, honey, the View the second most intelligent person on the whole panel of Sarah Haynes, we have a problem. I will say this joy it's so we get a joy. It's

the same, It's been the same. Sonny Holston. You can say you're a lawyer, as as I don't think that smart you. Megan McCain, you offer nothing bring back to to Diabella whoo Be. You You are amazing and definitely the icon, but you check in and check out, but this is about Megan McCain and I don't think so, honey, Megan mcain, this daughter of John McCain, and that's one minute. That kind of well, can I tell you, I don't like mean it like I would rather have Elizabeth Hasselback

than Megan McCain. At least she's compelling. At least she's like like I don't know, at least there's like some spirit to her, like Megan mcain. It's like she's been on I watched the View and Megan mcain, she has been on the show for like two months. We had to celebrate her birthday and her wedding. Bitch, we don't know you earn it? Earnest. I looked at HPJ in the eyes when I say this, Megan mcannis to earn it? What has she done to earn it? Her father is

who he is? No. Also, stop back and look at the cable news. You need to take a daytime talk show hosting course because you are not welcoming. I don't know, I just I don't like her. There's there's an art to it, and she's she's not there's an aptitude gap. And also she does that thing I was talking to a friend and he brought something, brought something up, really a stupid she does that little spoiled rich girl thing, which is the second you don't let her say everything

she wanted to say, she throws up fit. It's like if she doesn't get all the way through a thought and like somebody jumps in, which they do on the view because we just ain't got time. She'll throw up her hands and be like, well, I guess that I'm not gonna be able to do what I'm supposed to be here to do. But just to give the other perspective,

shut up. And they fired Jenna's Aabila to get her and look, Jenny's Abila is like a libertarian and like I had my problems with her, like she sometimes I was like, oh God, that's insane the things that she says. And she was like one of those people that's like Hillary I could never vote for, you know, like one of those but you would rather have her at least at the end of the day. She was warm and like had fun things to say about things that weren't

just politics. Megan McCain is ice cold and I'm not into what I think is and I'm just gonna say this, ABC only only having her on the show so they can have access to McCain in his final years. But I think it's I think that's what it is. What do you mean access to mccainy. I think that they can get John McCain on the show an interview for you know. I think it's a whole conspiracy. That's a long time Megan McCain because she like has sort of been on the peripheral, the periphery of like she writes

articles every now and then. I want to like her. I think maybe I want to like her. I keep wanted to like her, and then she says things like they were all going around the table and saying who their celebrity crush was, and she said, Paul Ryan, get the fun out of here. It's not even cute, and the audience grown and I was like, thank you, it's literally sunny host and who I'm sorry I don't like,

and um, is there any Sarah Haynes. They both said Idris Elba and I think I forget who Joy and Whoope said or whatever, And then they got to make a nick and she's like, well, mine's Paul Rye and the audience goes, oh, of course it is. So is there any good host on the view right now? They're good? I mean, Whoopee is when she wants to be there, she's great. But but sometimes you just get the sense that Whoopee is just giving takes to the audience, like

can you be talking about this? And yes, yes, whoop Weekend, this is the view you sign up for, You the moderate of the show. You've been on the show for ten years. You damn well know that we are talking about this? You are are you see the prompts beforehand? You're not cooler than the show? Whoopi Goldberg, she's superior. I don't like what she acts like that. Sarah Haynes, she's really giving her best effort. I don't even know who she was before the show. She's like the blonde,

she's like always pregnant. She's very that Okay, Joy is Joy Yeah? Um. And then there's Sunny Holsten, who I'm sorry, I just I don't get I gotta say. And this is not just because she's a she's a podcast sister Michelle. When Michelle is on it, Michelle Collins, it was never

better better. She's the Queen's the best, the best of when it was in recent years was whoopee, Michelle Collins, Raven Simonia, I'm sorry, I love even though she said cookie stuff on that love Raven and I guess Jedded Diabela was like the full the Fuller House, the full House, Candie Cameron Beer and she she's a dummy. She's a dummy. Yeah, she's very conservative. But also I appreciated the fact that, like she was a conservative one and also was like,

by far the dumbest. So it was like she's like, oh no, every day I pray and everyone was like, oh god like and it was like fun to have that. Now it's like you have Megan mccaino's like superior about like garbage point of view, which is the downs, you know what I mean. It's disgusting, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. I love your whole breakdown of you know, you had so many passionate takes. That's what'll be, That's what you get out of Matt Rogers and I don't think so, honey,

so do you have one? Um? I think so, I think so do you do? He's rarely ever prepared upon it. Oh, I'm never prepared out with you both. I'm gonna start hosting the show with Michelle Collins. She'll do it, She'll do it. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The line at Helen Hardy today in November. I went in there with a simple mission, A medium chicken pop pie, no bread, no crackers, just the damn soup. I ran into my good friends to Sheil, who works over at

Comedy Central. Very nice guy. We said high We exchanged pleasant trees. It was the highlight of my experience at this fucking Helen Hardy today because there's a huge line that goes out the door and I go, what is going on? There's no one winning at the soup s line. It's everyone's winning at the cashier line. I don't think so. Second, not being able to manage the crowd during the lunch rush,

I don't think so, honey. This is Hudson Square. This is, you know, not the busiest neighborhood in Manhattan during the day, but it's a busy one. You've got a lot of people coming in from a lot of different industries and backgrounds and positions and levels of you know, up the food chaine. I don't think so many. You got to figure this out. I had one soup and it took me forty minutes seconds. Forty minutes for soup. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. That was

really well paid. Thank you complaining about pacing earlier. I was like, thank you, some more knows about pacing. I I've learned from call me by your name what good and bad pacing is. Um, you know what you've got to figure out. We're gonna get. Really, the thing is, you can imagine we have a large gay audience, and for for us to be talking about calling about your name, I would say the last hour, I loved the first hour.

If they rode their fucking bike to the lake one more time, I was going to get out of there. I couldn't see one more bike ride to the lake, partner. I'm just the it's not The ending was like a departure from the book, which is fine. But the takeaway from the movie is that you know, he feels a certain way and it's that's not really the case, and that's that is unfair of you to say about the film, because he's in a whole different place in his life

in the film than he is in the book. But in the book, you see the journey, and so that's all I'll say. Okay, a partner, We're sorry, we just didn't know. I don't know. Okay, I'm gonna I'm I don't know if I can summon up enough passion, but I'm gonna try. You keep it as low energy or as high energy as you want to not do not feel the need to hit a certain death of ball. But this is a partner inturials. I don't think so, honey, and her time starts now. I don't think so honey.

Friends who don't text during holidays like Thanksgiving weekend because I feel like I were all with our families and or loved ones and were chosen families and loved ones during this time, and obviously we're all supposed to be putting in quality time, but everyone reaches a limit with how much family you can be around. And then if no one else is texting, I feel like I'm the

only one not experiencing fulfilled relationships. And then then I feel extra lonely and isolated, and I need other people to be like, hey, are you tired of listening to your mom? Make gentle nudges about how soon you should have kids before they might have uh you know, birth

defects or whatever it is. And if no one else texts, it really feels like you're alone in the universe, and especially if they just leave you hang in an emotional you know, sore that you've opened up, and then you just have to look at it and see the non response and be like, I guess you don't feel that way, and that but finished this thought because that, I mean, first of all, completely appropriate that it was just at this nice MPR town, this NPR level, because I kind

of felt that way too. I felt a little too, I mean, obviously for different completely different ways and different circumstances. I was like, oh, yeah, I guess I'm just like at sea here or socially, and I feel a little stir crazy. I don't know, I mean, I don't know if that's exactly what. Well. I think everyone feels a little stir crazy when they've had enough, like home time or family time, but then they feel like there's some kind of social more to not be like texting with

your usual social group. I don't know, what a trash people who are on their phones and so that's not an issue. Oh that's great. That must be like the next level up, because yeah, like, I don't know who. I would love to you call someone out right now who didn't text you back at Joe Firestone, fucking Joe fires We gotta go get her. Who does she think she is? Well? Drag her in here. I think it's because she's a good person. No, no, I don't think so,

you know what. I take back what you said about the only trash people text back, because no, no one's above it. There's an etiquette. You respond if you're engaged, especially if it's one of your good friends, like a partner is to Joe, and that is not acceptable. I would I would take Matt to task if he were if he if I didn't respond to Bowen the full disclosure. I think I did not text her. I think I thought about it and then I was like, well, if she was a good friend, she would text me knowing

how I was feeling. Absolutely, And you're right about that. I don't know if you feel like this with Joe, but I can feel how by one feels in the air. Yeah. Sometimes when he's gone for a long time and I know he's landing again, I will be sitting in my chair, which I'm doing. When he's not in I I'm just sitting in my chair with my head down. And then when I feel him touchdown, I will rise up and I will feel filled with life again and I'll say

hello friends. It's almost like very Luke and Leah. Yeah. Absolutely, yes, that was my understanding of how friendship works. Absolutely, and Joe hasn't met that standard. No, but I'll give her time. Give her time, because you know who else needed time. I want to say two podcast related things before we

wrap up. Um, I want to say that you should absolutely head over to Apple Podcasts and you should give us a five star rating and you should give us a nice review because this really helps the podcast rise to the top. And I'm serious, guys. If you guys listen listening to this, you know it wouldn't kill you. It wouldn't kill you. And look, you know, leave it,

maybe leave a rule of culture in your review. Maybe we'll maybe, we'll read it, we'll canonize it, and maybe by maybe we mean definitely definitely maybe, And um, again, it really helps with visibility and all that hacks the algorithm. Also, I want to say one other thing, and it's it's good that we said this will our guest is here because our guest is actually a surprise story pirate And

why always forget that you're a story pirate. Well, I was shocked that you knew because I I I was one a long time ago and I haven't actually done any story Pirates related stuff in a couple of years. I think, incredible story Pirate. You did you enjoy doing it? When I did, I loved it. And you came from a great class of people because because I think you were, you were on the same time as like maybe Natasha Rothwell was, yeah, but she was New York and I

was l A. I think that's why. That's it. That's why I don't know a lot of people who were one but still still an alumni. Sometimes you don't even know what a superstar is a secret story parrot. Now listen, I bring up story Parts because I would love especially if you're out there and you have kids, Um, you should check out the Story Parts podcast on gimlet um and they're so amazing And I'm in a couple episodes.

Have you been in a podcast episode yet? I haven't been in the New iteration soon, but I love I I as a listener, someone who's not has not been involved yet. I it's such a joyful Rachel when it's Key a friend of the show, writer of the podcast. It's very good and very cute. And some of the stories and some of the songs and the music, it's just amazing. Just put a smile on your face. It really well. And also, guys, it's short, it's like twenty two minutes. It's so good. And I have interviews with

the kids that wrote the stories that get adapted. Oh, it's so good, so nice. Um, and I just wanted to throw them them a little bit of love. And one more podcast thing, um, you know a partners podcast with Jacqueline Novak and anyone any other cost you Jack Blue Woman Group, you know Blue Woman Group. Listen, listen to some episodes and if you if you run a podcasting network, maybe throw your hat in for the bidding war that you know. Now, Um, this has been a

very fun, nice episode. I'm really happy that we were able to spoil a million dollar baby yes and talk a intellectualis sess me straight? Yes? In that way? Absolutely, party, Thank you so much, thank you, I love you very much. Likewise, now we should leave with the song yes oh you smile streep In every film you scarmoral streep. Forevery film you smile Bye. This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Bahum, Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey.

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