“This Episode Features DOUG!” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

really culture number thirty one. Thoughts is married to. Should we ask him what his sexual life was like when he was young? Yeah? Dog? Come on? Can you come in? Can you come in? Please? Can you come in? Please? Doug? What were you like? Were you a thought back in the day? Do you still consider yourself? Do you identify as a thought? A thought? I do think then maybe once I was considered a thought. Wow, it would be a shame if you weren't. Don't know anymore. I mean,

come on, you guys. You were a tall musician, like that's all anyone needs, you know. Maybe you're flattering me. I don't know. Tell me, how did you How did you meet your wife? I moved in across the street from her. Oh my God wrong, calm vibes. Who made the first move? Ye? Well how did it go? I helped her move some big boxes that she one day, Yeah, like stereo or something. I was like, oh, yes, we have file. You should meet her one day. She's great.

I would love for her to sort of pie into the frame one of these days, because because it must, she must be some woman to go handle on you. I think I'm the lucky one in this exchange. But don't sell yourself short, Doug. One day I wanted to come in all the time. She won't do it. Hey, comfortable, We are making you uncomfortable now, look at them. I like talking about my wife. Yes, well you should talk about her more whenever you have a thing to say

about your wife. Throughout this episode, I want you to just come to be invited. Just know that today on the podcast it's it's open door because Doug, really, family is the most important thing. Huh. I agree, Dog, I want you to come in unprompted at least twice this episode. Okay, I'll do it. You do that. Yeah? Yeah, this episode is title is This episode features Doug in all caps.

You guys are gonna get me late tonight. Yes, you're not gonna wait until Wednesday for the episode Dropp and she goes, Babe, I heard you talk about me on last my favorite podcast. I mean she would say that, and she will hear it on Wednesday, but she might know no, of course, yeah she does. It's learning with us. Now she does, we met her. She won't come in, she sed because of Bowen. Now, okay, Doug. Doug will

come back on twice this episode. Okay, so it's an open door policy, but there is a limit of two times you can come in. Come in the third time, and I'm gonna be piste off. Fair enough, Okay, get out by, get out, bye, We love you. I'm really happy that we did that. I feel like that because you know, the readers like they're sick of us. There's something they get so sick of us. They just want to say, can they bring Doug in? Because that's the guy I want to hear about. They keep saying how

hot he is. Doug is ahead, He's a massive hit, massive hit. Can I tell you who else is a massive hit? Past Halloween weekend, my sister, my sister, Matt Rodgers caused on Instagram a gay Instagram just a manic cascade of laughs and relatability. She dressed up as a pantry girl. If you don't know, these are These are the teenage girls who live on Long Island, who take the ferry every morning to work at the Pines Pantry and Fire Island. And I think Matt really nailed their

essence down. You know what the girl I named her Jim, she lives inside me. She is my girlfriends in high school who all did work at the market. My sister also worked there. So I have like a deep connection to the pantry girls. I don't just that the pantry. Yes, not the Pines Pantry. She worked at Ocean Bay Park. But you know what, so many people in the comments on that Instagram post where like as a former pantry girl.

I guess they were coming out. They were, And the fact that they have not been completely disgusted by the behavior of gay men as a collective to to follow you and to be like and to recognize themselves and new I think it's beautiful. I think that. I here's the thing. I tried to represent them as truthfully as possible. You did, You didn't try, you succeeded. There was no I wasn't creating fantasy here. You what I mean? It was just authentic, grounded, let's say Julianne Moore type performance

ground that very Christmas Stewart Spencer. I would say that my costume was the Christian Stewart Spencer of the year without dressing up like that at all. Like my performances, Jen was very Christian Stewart and Pablo Aine Spencer. You were a success to them as a spider. Dude, No, we can't talk about I'm so I have not felt this kind of shame in a while, and I think that's healthy that I like feel like not proud of something that I've done, that I've executed. It's okay. I

just wanted to lift up you. I think you really. I thought so finally of you today, I go, Matt really did that. I'm so happy for her. Those The way that Halloweens usually go for me is I don't know what the funk I'm doing until about an hour before and I really almost bailed on that costume, and I was like, are people going to even given? Am I?

And then I was worried because I was gonna have to wear the footwear all like, because everyone knows those girls wear the big chunky socks with a knife slide, you know, or like a burk or something. Right, they're not crunchy enough to wear burg in stocks. And that's okay, right, no, no, no,

yeah that and then what what I will say. One piece of criticism I god about the pantry girls look is someone said, I know that people think we show up in footwear like that, but actually, like there's a lot of walking and you couldn't just show up in like socks and a bad shoot. You need a soul support. People took issue with the footwear, Yeah they did. That's the danger of like, you know, dressing up as a

type of person, because you weren't. You were You were dressed up as gen obviously, but you were also you were also like, this is a kind of person that is geographically, socie economically specific, right, and they are I think they're historically important. And so let's just let's just say this, Like we shot the movie Fire Island this summer, and for people who thought that maybe there wouldn't be the representation of the pantry girl, think again, we can't.

We will not reveal at the time who plays a pantry girl. We will not reveal at the time, we will only say they have been a guest on Lost Culture. They have been a guest on Lost Culture, they have done live Lost Culture shows several times. Favorite guest of ours. But like it. And I'm just gonna say a performance that I felt was dropped in that I felt represented it, got it exactly. Yeah. Oh, a queer legend, honestly, And I've given something away. She's she's part of the acronym.

That's right, Welcome to the arena. Whenever anyone is part of the acronym, I said, well, welcome to the arena. Welcome to the arena. Are you ready? Prepare for battle? Prepare for battle? Oh my god, that just you know what that reminds Ulan? No, no, no no. When we did fin you iconically delivered the line prepare for battle. And then I posed, you know, I was just back in Disney World. I know, Wait, we can't do this. I'm like, there's something's going on with me lately where

I'm like, I feel like Ariel on the Grotto. I go like, truly like out of the see wish I could be part of that world. You are part of that world. I don't know. I'm like I wish. I thought to myself, Oh god, I've I've been robbed. I've not been robbed. I've been blessed with this life, but I've also been I've not been given the chance in

recent years to like watch the leaves change. You know, we can't Willie Nilly just be like Orlando trip this October and we used to Willie Nilly say that we really did, just say I kind of missed that time in my life. Yeah, but you're always gonna miss the great before. I mean, that's the thing is, it's like you never know the good times are the good times. This is a little sad, but I don't mean for

it to be. This is just like when I first realized that, like this is a this is an interesting line of work that we're in, which was my grandmother passed away two summers ago, three summers ago, and I was the only member in the family who couldn't go to the funeral because I was what shooting is really, I wasn't that high up on the call sheet, and like there was just there wasn't in my around it, and I was I still remember that I regret that

I'll carry with me. Yeah, you know, the thing is what I what I said at the time and what I believe is true, is like whenever things just don't happen, like like in the way you'd want it to, just know that you're whoever passes away, your grandmother is so proud of you that you get to be, you get that she gets to you know, be part of why you exist. But Matt, this is like the relationship I have with this grandma on my mom's side, it's full

fucking nutty. It's like, oh, I was such a little piece of ship to her growing up, even though she was the best, the smartest, the funniest, like someone who like I like we like it was love all along, but like there was that developmental period in like middle school when she was staying with us in Colorado. More like I was just such a fucking jackass to her and she was all all she ever did was love me.

And it literally is that. And then I'm just like, damn, you know, like she anyway like this this business like you can't go for a damn funeral any you know, it's it's it's a little crazy, how how how strict the scheduling all is. And ultimately, yeah, I mean, it's interesting that you bring that up because I was thinking the other day, I all my grandparents are gone now too, and um, you know I was, I was with I was on this family trip with my mom, my dad,

and my sister. So it's sort of like old times, like you know, like that is the core for very much. So that is really where we would go all the time on family vacations growing up. And I just remember, so I was walking in Epcot and I remember, I remember like we were walking past Soren and next door used to be it's called the Journey into Imagination. Now it used to be hunting a shrunk the audience. Oh I missed that right so much. Yeah, so it was like a three D show and the dog sneeze at

you and felt the spray. Yeah, this is like o g Epcot. So it's called funny or maybe not, but like I was there for a while, but I was, so this is a glimpse and it's gonna surprise no eader that listen to us for a while. But I

was so that kid. I used to read all the books about Orlando theme parks before we'd go, Like I would know about every ride and show and I would like list out, like Okay, we're gonna do this, this, this, like that was what I like to do when I was like seven of the in many ways, not every way, but many ways. But I remember I had read about Honey I Shrunk the audience that there was a scary part where the snake like lurches out and it's three D,

so that was horrifying. So I remember we got to that show and it was I was probably seven, and I just freaked out, like this snake was was getting at me, like the way I am now about horror movies. I was like that as a kid about the snake.

And I started to cry because my dad was like, I don't understand why you don't want to do this, like you've been talking about it for months, like we're so excited to be here, and now you don't want to do this, Like I'm gonna hear about it for the rest of the trip, and he was getting short

with me and my grandmother, who was my favorite. I mean, I loved my grandmother, my dad, dad's mom or dad's mom, and she was on the trip and she was like, I'm going to sit with him out here, and I just remember I remember her sitting with me, and um, she just like sat with me and we like hung out by like these jumping fountains. This is just like I'm just saying, oh my god, no, wow, Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. I know that area.

I just remember my grandmother being like I didn't really want to do it either, so this is better for me. We get to sit down and watch the water. And we just watched it, and my dad came out and I think he could sell. He was like, um, disappointed that he had like snapped at me a little bit. He was like, well, you were right about the snake and it was scary. And then we walked on and we we did something else. But I don't know, just that memory of my grandmother back in Yeah, I'm sorry

to make it all Modlin. You were talking. You were actually going to talk about Orlando and how is the trip. It was a nice trip, But it was also it was nice for that reason too, because that was a place where I had so many formative memories and I actually did get a little emotional, you know, being there with my family because it's, um, you know, it's that thing where it's all the same, well not the same

because things. But I had that thing with Disney where I got the parks where I'm like, I've been coming here all my life and it's still here in a way that is like monumental in your own memory, like, oh this is like this was it was the biggest deal in the world when I would come here. Yeah, so the essences of it are there, yeah, and I'm like, uh, Ellie has been several times, Sophie went to Disneyland when they when my sister went to l A with my

mom um. But I'm like, I can't wait to And I did go to euro Disney with with Ellie when she was like an infant. But I'm like, I can't wait. Like it'll be really surreal when I go there with the girls when they're you know, old enough to really get into it, and I'll be like, yeow, like that was I was. I was them, like you know, twenty five years ago or whatever, Like that'll be That'll be fun.

There is something special about it because you see how excited kids are to be there, and then also it is just like a lot of family memories and it was just fun. I mean, we went during the Food and Wine Festival where there's like the country. We did that, and we did that. We got drunk, so drunk and stone and ate every little food thing from the station. Yea, oh my god, I love the food and Wine Festival.

It was like it was such a blast and like, um also the breaking news and what I wanted to tell you about was so, you know, when we had bad Wong on, we talked about how he was acting in the pre show of the Veloco Coaster. So I have seen it and written it now and it's it's truly crazy and good and we I haven't seen it well, I was talking. We I've only seen him in the Jurassic PARTL Jurassic World ride at Universal Hollywood. Yeah, okay,

tell me everything. So it's like the theme of the ride is like you get to do a roller coaster through like a raptor paddock and it's it's actually it's funny because they do this whole pre show where Bryce Dallas Howard, who actually serves in this pre show, is like, this open air experience is amazing. You'll get so close to raptors, but don't worry that the ride vehicles make

it so they can't touch you. And Chris Pratt. You know, he's just kind of like popping off, like this is a bad idea at CET other classic theme park give and take, and so b D is sort of in it, like talking about the science of it all and that man can deliver. He is giving you and he looked so hot in the pre show. Of course he does. He does he like like a side buzz, like a side fade. Yeah, oh my god, what a what a what a legend. He's really he's really delivering and anyway

you could you could want him to. And then the ride was unreal. So it was so good. I can't wait to go on it with my Sisteria me. Yeah, you when are we going? Well, like we said, it's not just a willing only thing anymore because of absolute careers. But one day we'll go. We've been meaning to go for I would say the last thirty six months, right, like it's been a while, it has been a long time. But I also think that, and this is crazy for me to be the one that says this. I do

think we should go to Berlin. You know, it might be nice. I would love to go to Berlin with you. I think we would have a very fun time. We've been talking about it, and we've been talking about it, and look, we gotta go and with the world's ending, I don't know anyway. Sorry, I'm like coming in with bleakness and you're not. You're not. And I also have to say, like, we did just go on vacasion. We

went to Oh we went were on a vacation. But honestly, can I say something what I don't feel that rested? But when this this always happens, Can I ask you a question? What are you having trouble sleeping? Yes? Well, what is how do we figure that out? I don't know. I really don't know the solution to it. I think it'll just have a nice little I'll have a nice little lull around the holidays where I maybe get to catch up on it. But this is just a thing

that I need to maybe address magically. I think maybe maybe, because that's like, I mean, here's the thing, readers. You gotta sleep. You got us leader, It's a rule culture number fifty two. You sleep, okay, I mean, And I just feel like so much is rooted in that, Like when I get a good, even solid like eight to ten hours, um, I feel it's just and This is news to no one, but it truly you realize how

important it is. That and drinking water. Well, I should say that I've been hydrating better than ever before, and that is actually doing a lot of work. This is so boring. I think maybe it's a cigarettes though. I'll tell you that I think the cigarettes might be keeping you up. I'm kind of off of them. I was not smoking cigarettes when we were in O high, and I still had trouble sleeping. Well, it's also because I had to get up and do ship for other people. Whatever, well,

not for not for you. Matt and I were working on a very fun project and talking about ideas. Get this. We were working on a very fun project, talking about ideas. Maybe there, maybe you're about to experience, uh, Matt and bone like you've never experienced them before, different mediums that you might not expect. You're giving away too much. No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. Well listen, I I when you said the thing about hits in the beginning, when you were like, you said something about a hit,

I said, Doug as a hit. You were a hit at Halloween as a Halloween. I thought you were going to mention another hit. Which and so just to sort of talk about pop culture because that is sort of what what the podcast purports to do. It has been it has been several weeks and we talked all about how Adele was going to release Easy On Me, and since then she has We've heard the whole thing and it's become the number one song in the world. And you see today they released her track list. Thing I

did not see. Oh my god, you want to talk about can you can you inform me? Shall we read the track list? Thing? Yeah? I said on her on her Instagram. Let's see Adele track list. So this is the track list for thirty. Um she has revealed it. Um, there are there. She has decided. Okay, so get this. If you could guess who Adele is going to do her first duet ever with, who would you think it is? It won't be correct, I know, like it would be someone not totally in her market but slightly slight overlap

with it. So I would you know, you'd say someone like a Leon Bridges, you know, like someone like that. It's Chris Stapleton. Oh yeah, it's it's it's on the It's on the Easy on Me bonus track. Right, So it's the deluxe version. Moment Easy on Me duet with Chris Stapleton is a bonus track on thirty Interesting Um Errol Gardner I'm seeing as well All Night Parking. I mean, oh, these are these are fun. These are fun titles though,

So get this. I think if we're gonna judge based on song title, whether or not the song will be good or not. Strangers by Nature, that's a good song. Strangest by Nature, my Little Love Cryer hard Out. It's honestly like, that's the essence of every adult song. Number five is oh my God, oh my God, that's gonna

be great. Well, you know, we said, we kind of said this rule that this is this rule of culture off air, and we want to tell everyone it's rule of culture number um nineties four when it comes to oh my god, and it's true. I mean, there's nothing more organically exclamatory than oh my god, oh my god. It's what it's like, as naturalist, pretty thing. It's the fact that it's three syllables and it's even more natural

than something with less syllables is astounding. It's not like oh oh no, it's like oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, your brain just wants to do the three all three words, all three syllables. It's a three syllable thing. Bowen Yang, Matt Rogers, Oh my god, three syllable thing. Doug get out, Doug come in? Wait? Was he just coming in? No? No, no, But I was thinking that's an example of like a three syllable thing, Doug come in? But do you can't come in. You

can't come in invite it. You have to come in on your own, uninvited. So continuing to read to the track list, can I get it? I'm I hope that's not like a British ism like can you you know, don't let me down? Can you diget like the Beatles or anything? Can I get it? You know what? Okay, not to pivot from adult too much? Okay, is there anything else you want to say about Adult? Well, I just want to say that number seven is track list the ones everyone is really getting excited about is called

I drink Drink wine. I mean mass appeal four quadrants and everybody drinks it. Yeah, every gender, every age group, you know, everyone drinks wine. Everyone drinks behind And I think that's the beauty of wine. Is that? Now? Go ahead and pivot. Well, I was gonna say, like I need to, like I think it's I think I'm due for I'm sure you don't feel this way, but I truly feel the pole to really and this is gonna sound so annoying, but to really get back into the Beatles,

into the Beatles. Yeah, you know, I have the White Album on vinyl. That's one of the best albums of all time. I go, I Am, I was, I was. I was like I was doing this thing with Cecily and then like one of the producers was this big beetle head, like the Liverpool came up or something, and then Cecily was just rattling off all of these things about the Beatles, and I was just there being like, oh, yeah, that doc came out about you know, let it Be and that concert on the Roof when they, you know,

were hating each other. And apparently this documentary talks about how it's like the actual footage from that time and like they were actually in a good place, but they had to like put forward this and I'm probably butchering this and p and readers are probably seeing the dock and can attest to this, but like it's about how like they were kind of in a decent place, even though they were supposed to put forth the image of where there's tension, which is such an interesting inversion of

like what celebrity sort of image usually is about it They're you're supposed to get along and but actually they

hate each other. This was like the opposite. And but anyway, Cecily was writtling off all these Beatles facts, and I was like, I used to be so fucking into them really late high school, early college, like early college was what was when I was like, oh wait, like Brian Wilson, like I need to get back into like the Beach Boys, so deep into the Beach Boys, and like I was, I was, I'm just I think it's one of the most important pop cultural moments when well, no, I'm I'm

saying it was when it was Beatles came out with like Revolver, and then so Brian Wilson was like, we need to make an album that's as good as this. They made Pet Sounds, and then Paul McCartney and I was John Lennon or is one like the Beatles were basically we need to make an album as good as this, like like that little like exchange that back and forth, like making like three incredible pop albums rock albums. I'm like, wow,

that must have been crazy. That must have been like you know, when Beyonce came out with self titled and then Taylor came out with they Were the Original be and Taylor. That was that was when the girls were growing. Okay, so this is when going to you, what do you have to say the Beatles? I mean, you're you're Beatles? Were you dog whistling him? No? I was not talking. I've honestly been thinking of this a lot. Dog go ahead. The Beatles are single handedly the most important thing in

pop music. I mean, everything changed, it all went. Can you school us like, like, can you give us like the quick quick sparks notes, cliffs notes? I mean the Beatles. Every everyone knows. I mean we're we're not saying anything new obviously, but I think it's important for not not enough of us, like millennial gen z cuspic gaze, like

I think the children have forgotten. We know about the British invasion, we know about the of Beatlemania, we know about you know, it was truly the first like or not the first BLUs Elvis, but like It was an iconic moment of intense fandom that was felt all around the globe. But tell us something we don't know, Doug. I mean they affected everybody. They weren't macho like, affected every culture. That's why they're the Beatles. They literally everything

comes from the Beatles that I can see. I mean, Taylor Swift wouldn't exist without the Beatles. And that's the way. That's the way you sort of get us to listen. Um, well, I'm actually I'm gonna I'm gonna, as the kids say, gag you. Doug and Bowen, you must have been shook. Went. So we were in Ohio at this restaurant, and why

did you I don't understand why you left? Talk here. No, we will just miss you when we will just this are the rules of you coming in, come in uninvited, and then you leave when we say it can happen one more time after this. Don't sunk up again. I've been having a lot of fun with you today and it could end like that. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something, and don't leave in the middle of me telling you something. We went to a restaurant in OHI called the Each House.

It was lovely and wet in there. We have this amazing waitress a five course in five course, let's just describe the vibe. The vibe was like, oh, I bet those trees, the little little bridges to different areas, um, it felt like a chic costa folklore, very folklore. And and and then me and Study and Matt were are like, oh, this is the kind of restaurant that like probably was

huge and so she can cool in the sixties. Like we said that to each other, like this is a place where you probably imagine like people in the sixties coming to and feeling very I don't know, just refined or cultured. And then our waitress tells us. We're like, this is such a lovely We were complimenting the place, how much fun we had, and we were saying the move food was great, and she goes, well, you know there's a lot of history here. Well, the first thing

she says was I waited on Luke Bryant. And we were like oh. And then she goes and right over that bridge is where John and Yoko wrote A man imagine. Wow, yeah, Doug, what are your thoughts on pet sounds? This and the Beatles? But what are your thoughts on I love Pet Sounds maybe my my favorite album of all time. It's up there for sure. The harmonies and things are unprecedented. They went other places baroque pop. You don't get Fleet Foxes

without Pet Sounds. You don't get tight, tight harmonies like that without the Beach Boys in general, like I mean, like they didn't invent harmonies, but they like it was very like I mean, like, was Phil Specter involved with the Beach Boys ever? It just felt like very wall of Sounds without Phil Spector's taint on it. I don't remember, got it. It wasn't Phil Specterr more of the ladies of the time. Phil Spectrm was more of the ladies.

But like I think, but I'm saying in terms of like that lush Yeah, the wall of sound music wall like that was like his thing, and like I feel like Pet Sounds was that concurrently or maybe slightly before slightly. I can't. I'm bad with my music history. But Doug, what's your favorite? What's your favorite album of all time? Do you have one? Do you have to top three? Top two? I mean Pet Sounds is up there, really, Revolver is up there. I'm putting you on the spot.

I'm sorry, and you look uncomfortable. It was. It's just it's one of those questions where you you listen to something and then you love it, and then somebody asked you. That's a horrible I hate myself for asking. Now, don't worry Doug. Why would you hate yourself for asking this man who's a musician, what is top three albums of all time? Are the fact that he can't answer. It's like when people ask you, like who your favorite actresses or like what your favorite like, Yeah, Kirsten Dunce, let's

move on, and that's coming onto the chat? Anna Anna what bye? And this is just a nightmare. Okay, you know what do you go? You can come in on one time later. I love Doug. I mean, he's really the star of the episode, isn't He's the star? His name is in the title. Sorry is what got you

thinking of all this when she said that? Because when she said that John and Yoko wrote Imagine at that restaurant, I was like, oh my god, and then I realized they probably were on an absolute metric ton of of something, of of of drugs. I mean, it's the most stoner slash like l s d song of all time. Imagine there's no heaven. Whoa but you you go up to O hi, and I'm telling you something. Purple Mountain majesty above the fruited plane. Say that it wasn't so beautiful.

I know we were the only fruits there. Let's just say that it was a very straight energy and oh Hi, that's for sure. I'm just saying there's no fruited planes in OHI, I don't think, but it's really lovely. Oh No. What got me into the Beatles thing was just like I mean, Cecily talking about them like really like stirred something in me. I Kayla stirback my good friend from high school. She was on the improv team with me. I hope she's doing well. I have I've done a

bad job of reconnecting with her. But she was like the big Beatles girl, and like Kayla had the best music taste because she because she was the one who was like, you gotta listen to the new Fergie song for Delicious or London Bridge or whatever, and will also being like you know who Elliott Smith is? Do you know stevens is? I was like, this girl gets it.

That's the embracing of high and low that we need in life and people need to be more like ms was Kayla, miss Kayla Stirback and she, oh my gosh, she was the one to like. She was so fucking cool and we like we like saw borat together and like she was a fucking cool and guess what was also obsessed with Kirston looked like Kirston a little bit, Like told me. She was like, she was like, you

gotta read the Virgin Suicides. You gotta watch it. I was like, like, you gotta know about Jeffrey Ugenity's whatever. And I was just like this girl, I she was one of those like I think, let's make up a new term, okay for icon of high school girlfriends. Well, no, no, not even high school. It's like a cultural shirt, a cultural guide, a cultural like steward. She was a cultural She introduced me. I'm like, my I think Yang my

sisters is definitely that introduced me to a lot. And then by the time I got to high school, it was Kayla Kayla like told me what was up anyway? I mean, I think I think it's it's absolutely fabulous to say that someone was a cultural stewardess that to me, that sounds a little too like service E. Like, you know, like I don't think that's but that's you disrespecting um steward.

I'm not disrespecting. I'm acknowledging to call it service and do that little handshake you that I'm acknowledging the power dynamic that is inherent in that outdated job title. But but to say, to say that someone stewarded me through something means that they put in care into, like you know, service, serving me something. Damn, I guess I've really I guess I've found myself in a little a little circular logic thing. But who do you have your I think study was

probably one of ours. Both of ours. Study was like a good one. Yeah. I think study definitely changed the way I saw a lot of things in high school. It was for me, it was a lot of the I to know, I really wasn't and I never really did.

But I would say that it was a lot of my friends from my cross country team, which I've discussed on this podcast, like I had older friends, and like what made the cross country kids different from the kids did other sports is for me was they liked like classic rock and like fun rock music like that was the only exposure to Queen I ever had, which I loved. And you know it's for me. That was probably because a lot of this I wasn't. I was I would only find something if it was really popular, and I

didn't have that. I don't know, I didn't. I guess you know. I did. I have an uncle that was cool. I hadn't one uncle that I remember. It was really important to me that I play him since you've been gone, because his opinion of it meant a lot to me. And I remember I played him the song and I said, I remember I was like fit fourteen, and I was like, it's very eighties rock. No, and he goes not know and he did? He throw me a bone? He was like,

it is very eighties rock. And I remember being like, yes, got Uncle Chris to sign off on this song. Kelly is a rock goddess. It's interesting to think about. I mean, we literally this weekend in OHI did some throwbacks for a couple of movies. We we only watched old Ship. We only watched old Ship. Actually thinks from like things that came out between two thousand and seven and two ten, was it was okay? So reader, we we we watched Jennifer's Body and Rena and went in Miami, which we've

recently talked about, I think with Sarah with Sarah Sarah squirm. Yeah, yeah, both wonderful, wonderful. Study had never seen Jennifer's Body, and we on this podcast last Culture just believe that Jennifer's Body is an underrated gym and that actually it's one of Diablo Cody's best I think that's widely agreed upon. I don't want to say that. People don't say that. Sure they do know there's a disrespect of Jennifer's body that happens amongst the mainstream conversation about it. They don't

talk about it because I don't know. I don't think. It's obviously not one of her more serious efforts, at least on face value. But there's a lot of very cool themes in there that I think we rediscovered and watching it again, and Megan Fox is great and Amanda Seyfrid is fucking great, and it's so good in it, so great, and I mean, yeah, you and Study talked about how it's obviously like deb Cody's queerest movie, but it's also like so about queerness without it being cheaply

centered on the moment where like they make out. It's like, oh no, you can kind of like it's if you think about it, it's like, no, Amanda's eyfread like that character, um isn't fully maybe fully in love with this boyfriend and that like literally she's getting fucked by him and all she and like she because of this bond she has with Jennifer, is only thinking about her, picturing her, sensing her as she's getting as she's as she's as she's being like penetrated, and so it's like, whoa, that

is so so rich, so great, like not too on the nose, like such a great piece of like queer cinema. I don't know, I think I also think it's it just I mean I think that they've said this, but maybe the marketing of it missed the market because they marketed it at the time Two Boys, because it was

like Megan Fox was of course sex symbol of that time. Meanwhile, it's like deeply about female friendship and um, you know, I believe like queer sexuality in high school and figuring that out, and you know, there is um a lot in there about like when a girl achieves a certain level of sexuality that men feel they can just take that from her, because I mean, I mean, Jennifer is murdered and assaulted in the in the in the film, and it's just it's a really it's a much more

interesting movie than I think people thought of it at the time. And I also don't think a lot of people saw it because there was this um predetermination to not take her seriously Megan Fox, right, And like, first of all, there were so many times in that movie where I turned both through, you know, I was just like She's, Wow, how did she how is she doing that? Um? But which is not to like patronizingly be like I didn't know Megan Fox could act good. That's not what

I'm saying. I'm just saying, like there's just such a mechanical technical skill in that and what she's doing. But like, no, literally, she and Diabolic Cody did like, uh, you know, a tenth anniversary interview rees like a couple of years ago, and it's just the two of them talking to each other.

It's such a good interview. It's such a great interview for the both of them, and they both talked about how it sucked, and it was so maddening the way they marketed it and the way they the way it tested, and like all of these things. They were like, this is crazy, Like this is in what the movie is and why why is it about like tits and ass when it's like about something I don't know, like so much more meaningful and and and nuanced and like I

don't know. Layer, Yeah, it's definitely worth a rewatch because even in rewatching it, like I always when I'm discussing the movie, it was clear to me when I saw this this most recent time that it had been a while, because I usually always say whenever we're discussing Jennifer's body that the only part of the movie that doesn't ring

true for me is the sex scene between them. But then in this viewing of it, I was like, this actually works for me because this is an actual erotic moment between them, because it's the first truly erotic moment of Amanda Sypherd's character's life, and especially in contrast with her sexual experience with her boyfriend in the movie. It's it really, it just jumps out and you remember it because it actually means something to her, And I didn't

pick up on my first viewings of this movie. I've seen it at least twice before, but um, there's that moment where Megan goes to we play boy, Like what

what was it like? There's just like an illusions boyfriend girlfriend something like that where it's like it's alluded to, and then in the flashbacks it's like, oh, these girls are connected through literal blood and also through some like emotional investment where they've seen each other where it makes sense that they're friends first of all, and then it kind of makes sense that they would hook up that way, especially after Megan's like coming off of like spoiler alert,

killing a guy, glowing, feeling like in her element in her prime, feeling like she's empowered enough to like for her, it's a neurotic for Megan. For Jennifer, it's a neurotic experience too, because she doesn't need to hook up with her Like she's hooking up with boys and killing them because she needs to live as a demon. But she doesn't need to hook up with Amanda Seyfrid's character out of necessity, you know, she doesn't literally doesn't need to do that, and so she's it's both of them, for

both of them. It's this pleasurable experience like that is, and and why wouldn't female sexuality be anything but that for these characters. I think it's so great. Yeah, and it's funny, and it's a lot of it really is super funny. The performances are good, so that song really and it's truly like returning a lot throughout the movie

in a really fun way. The fact that it's such a good hook lucky sort of makes the way that they get corrupted by him make a lot of sense because he is this like you know, Adam Brody on the movie Who's Such Who, He's great, and he is this douchebag rocker, but then when he sings it's this essentially like crooney, mid tempo pop song that the girls swoon over, and you know, ultimately he takes advantage of them.

But it's just like, I don't know, it's it's just a much more interesting movie than I think people gave

it credit for. And also another thing we have to think about two is and still to this day this is the case, but the way movies get reviewed it really matters because and this is why we need like a diverse um population in terms of who is reviewing the films right, So, and the answer is not always if it's a queer movie, get the queer person to review it, just because honestly, they they're they're often much

harder than anyone else on their own representation. That's a whole other thing we could digress about, um, which we won't. But I just think probably probably what happened at the time was if it wasn't majority male movie reviewers, you know, seeing that movie and then spitting their opinion out on it, it was female reviewers in the context of film criticism at that time, which is, you know, you really do

want to be taken seriously. And I just think so much that the the prism and the lens through which we see movies like that at the time, it really didn't stand a chance at getting taken super seriously. And it is an audacious script, and she was a lightning rod figure, Megan Fox. And so I wonder if it gets released now, and I do think it holds up how it's how it's reviewed now, you know, I wonder, that's a really great observation, really great observation. You were

the smartest girl, you know, that's not true. I think the smartest girl is probably Greta. Um wait, when when you were again pantry girl, Jen you were when you were describing Adam Brodie's band, you said crooney, which I thought you were gonna I think, did you mean to say rooney? No, but they were very ruoney asked, but it was very rooney asked. And do you remember do you remember Queen Somewhere only, I Love, I Love. I thought that was I thought that was the best song

in the world. It's a very good song. And that that that talk about like big old monster hook and that whole deal. Whoa. I remember Blake Lewis did it on the American Idol one time, and I was like, you better sing because he was just at the time

to completely date the world right now. What a what a great belt on that male belt on that song though, absolutely, and I'm getting to and then d yeah, such a good I mean literally that like speaking of that time, you know what else I was obsessed with at the time. It is one of the best pop songs ever, Like like a couple of months ago, it was like right

when the pandemic seemed like it was truly ending. And then the delta variant popped up a bunch of house Schliker, like a bunch of us, Like we all went to Jared was there full four months ago, right, but we all went to this thing in l A which was like it was truly like a pop of the two thousand's party was at a bar or no, but I told you about it. I forget. I don't know what venue it was, but I'm telling you, Ale Down, Sugar, Were Sugar, We're Going Down has to be one of

the best pop songs ever. It was so good. And also another song that came on and hit me in my fucking talk about talked about this, Yeah, what hit your problem? Mr? Bright Side? Bitch, Oh don't eat Mr bright Side. It was like it was like a big again. Really talk about this, talk about this synesthesia of hearing the song and feeling that you were getting penetry coming out on my cage. And I've been doing just gotta be down because I want it all. So you're saying

there's like a kinetic energy too. I mean that hot fuss that is that is one of the best, That is one of the best albums of that decade. They were so good and all these things that I've done love. I mean that was the best time truth and hearts that and that guitar is just that instrumental stretch. Yeah, I want to set up, I want to go Yes, so good, Oh my god. Yeah that that that was

a really good era. And at the time I was like afraid of panic at the disco, but then they played like I write since not tragedies um at the event and I was like, wow, this is something that is important, so good and smile like you mean it. I'm sorry, I'm still on the killers, Like oh I'm Holistically a music like that was truly but talk about like that was formative music for us. I mean being in high school, you never forget like everyone's gonna happen.

That's just it for us. It's the attachment in that critical time and like love that the kids have these these these this music now because I think it's it is a very good time in music. It's something so precious and nostalgic, not to wax too wistful about it,

but it's so oh, it's so powerful. I'm gonna make like I'm gonna make You're so good to make a play you know that one of everyone, all the readers that know any they know a thing, know that one of bone young superpowers, you have the gay power of playlists. But can I it is one of the gay powers. Can I just say? Though? Lately, I've felt very self conscious about this thing that I do, where I'm like, who am I to be so histrionic to think I'm gonna put together songs that other people have made and

kind of curate them. Oh God, that word, But they're not You're in doing that. You're not saying I'm a curator of something. You're just saying like you're in that, and that it's like something where it's like, now take me seriously, or like you're doing something that you enjoy and sharing it. Just look at it like that. And I've lately have been doing like fun Little Mood to my boss battle music I did. I've been like city

pop stuff like everyone already knows about everyone. I love it when I'm saying people know about city pop outside of this podcast. But I think I think we need to make like early like mid Auts when we were in high school, that music we've talked about, like taking back to Sunday. I feel like this is a difference, is a slightly different adjacent area where it's like, honestly not ashamed to admit it, was obsessed with Switchfoot. Oh love switch Foot, especially after I watch I remember it's

like that switch Foot. Yeah, I liked them too because they did because they did a cover of only Hope. Yes they did, and then he fucking goes for the belt on the bridge. Well he can sing there. Yeah,

I mean liked never. I mean they're there's so there's so much because it's just like and again, I wish I hadn't um been so afraid to like what I liked truly in high school because I don't really liked that and other people liked that too, Yeah, because they were the only thing I really was like, No, I don't like them, despite the fact that I probably did. Was this I'm Good Charlotte because it was the all

loved good Charlotte. But the emo of it all was not something that I could to liking at the time for some reason, for whatever reason that makes sense. But I mean, god, I just I just yeah, what I would have what a fun little time like like like kind of like matched, Oh my god, did you ever listen to stars? What is stars? Uh? Your x um set yourself on fire, your ex lover is dead. I don't know this. Oh my you st Oh, you're gonna fucking freak if you, if you, if you're in the

mindset to go back to that time. This is like something I don't think they were ever on Gray's and like the early seasons, but like it would be like something that they would play on Gray's when like you know, like Derek and Meredith would like pass over each other in the hallway. Right. So my favorite type of music, well, basically my favorite type of music was Gray's Anatomy climbax scene.

Well can you okay? So the music Literally think I think we've talked about her before on the pod Alex Pastavas. I'm not even looking anything. I can just recall her name, music supervisor for Gray's Anatomy for many seasons. I don't think she works there anymore, but she was also the music supervisor on the o C. A perfect woman, a perfect woman, but like truly someone who crafted sensibilities and

a literal tastemaker. Was soundtracking all of our teenage years alongside you know, Ryan and Morissa and and everybody you know and Seth and oh my god, what was the summer or summer perfect music for that show. Yeah, what an important job. If you're a music supervisor and you do that job well, that is that can be one

of the most impactful jobs in showbiz. Yeah, I think that, I mean the music of any project, just like so like I remember, like when Jared was putting his movie together, The Fine and we were talking about the music so much and he loves music so much, like and so I'm so excited about the musical element of Three Months, especially because Choice Savon is starring in it. You know. Actually, like I've heard some of the music that he's done

for it, and it's so good. But I think I think Jared played me one soide he did and I was like, whoa, it's really really good. People should be excited about what Choice savan is going to bring in the next year. So like, which is which is really super excit something because we've been excited for many years.

I've loved Troy since I first saw him, when I saw like a little twinkie pop star who was just I mean when he was on NL and just like fully like giving it I was I was doing that was bluem Era, Yeah, but I was loving Troy even before that, Yeah neighorhood, blue neighborhood is a blue neighbor the song blue Neighbor is so good. Yeah anyway, sorry,

but um, Troy. I mean, I'm just saying like everyone should be should be psyched about the turn that Troy's career is about to take, because it's gonna be very very cool. Okay, So wait, I'm loving living in this nostalgia era and I know, but I also feel that it's a connector because one thing that's resumed this year, which we're both into we haven't talked about yet Survivor. This Survivor. So this episode pissed me off because I wasn't a t but a fun twist, but a fun

twist that might not actually have much consequence. I think it'll be like a nothing burger by the next episode. Are we both loving the I mean, the season has a main character. This season has at main character. Her name is Shan, also known as the Mafia Pastor. I mean, one of the most compelling biopackages you could ask for

in reality television. I mean literally, I I'm loving what they're doing narratively with the season because I feel like you're really getting to know all the quick characters as it were, and they they're doing this thing where like in the narrative they'll drop it all away and you'll see like footage from their old life. They never used

to do that very great British bakeoff. Yeah, it seems like maybe the show was being edited by edited by a different person, or the show or the whole series has a different take on what it's doing in a way that I'm really enjoying. I'm loving the season. I think they really took it seriously. They were like, after forty let's reset it in some way, not hard reset, but let's reset it in some small aesthetic ways that will actually make a big impact. And narratively, I think

that is really reverberating. And I was saying when you were like, it's you're getting to know these people. We're only like six episodes in. It's it's early days. I mean we got to the merge, but early days. And I'm like, but I feel like I kind of have a read on these people, and I'm kind of i and I think there's room to be surprised and delighted and shocked, um, but I feel like I'm already really

attached to these people. Well, you know, you notice now more than ever that casting is everything because the people on this season that soever, they're all interesting in dynamic and it's also thems then what we should say it is the most diverse group there's ever been, so that's been a real strength of it. But it's also like you compare it to this season of Drag Race UK, It's like, oh no, it's that just goes to show like a whole season of television can can live and

die on casting. Well literally, i mean like All Stars Too is like a perfect example, like you absolutely stacked people on that cast. Yeah, I mean you us season thirteen incredible, incredible casting. But it's like and for an all star season of a show, it's like that's different because you're pulling from you know, past contestants. But you know this is so I think they did a great job on Survivor this season. Yeah, I think Jeff really

likes them, if that means anything. I'm loving Jeff this season. He is on one and I love that. Can you just name another legend? We don't stand too many straight white sis sis men on this pod? He would be I'm sure we do. Do you think he would ever come to this show. He wouldn't get it. He would he knows how to talk to a queer person, like there's there's been queers on the show since season one. Okay, do you remember in the first episode when he was

like that the whole on the compendium on guys. When that was happening, I was like I kind of was rolling my eyes and like, is this performed? And then I was like, no, you know what, I'm still knowing that I know knowing that what I know about this person, Like yeah, is this definitely happening on CBS in a way where it's like, look at us having the conversation. Sure, but also I bet he genuinely used to respect everyone on that she wants to know and not for any

like I roll compulsory, Oh I gotta do this. I think he's genuinely like, I'm fascinated by people, especially people who want to do this show, and I want to make sure I like have a care and a consideration into like how I talk to these people as a group and individually. Like he's god, Like he's like he is the reality show host. Yeah, I mean, if he were still like eligible for the Emmy like, I don't.

I mean, maybe people have just kind of feel like they've seen Survivor, but a Lifetime Achievement awards, he's won a couple in the beginning, but he gat himself out. But the thing too, for people that don't know what we're talking about. In the very first episode of the season of Survivor, he said, well, you know, one of my iconic things I say is come on, And he

then put to the cast. The second they get on the on the boat and they they're first all introduced, He's like, who has a problem with me saying come on? In guys, because if one person does, I won't say it anymore. I want to move forward. I want the show to adapt and evolve and change in a fully well intentioned way. And the one well, the one queer woman was not the one queer woman, but one of the queer women. Heavy said, or you know what, I

believe that they're non binary. They referred to themselves as a woman, refer to themselves as a queer woman. But I believe in press materials after the show that they're non binary. So let's just refer to them as they and say they said that they did not have a problem with come on guys. That's a colloquialism. Then later in the episode, another clear another queer contestant, Ricard said I thought about what you said, and I don't think

we need come on guys. And so Jeff has retired come on guys, just like that, in a way that was not like begrudging. Literally he made the terms clear, if one person has an issue with it, I will not say it anymore. And then one person said it and was and then he was like in a different at a different time, and he was like, Okay, great, what if he had been like, actually, that was the thing for yesterday and we used too long. So I'm

gonna keep saying. I mean this is I mean, I think he his brain is on another level because too to comment, to commentate or whatever on the actual challenges the way he does, for he has done for two decades at this point, that takes like such a skill, such a such a such an awareness of how entertainment is communicated, of like how to like just tell a story. I just think he's a genius. And you know the fact is, they don't always get it right on that show.

There have been there have been whole seasons of the show which are like unwatchable because of the way they bungle certain social issues. I'm thinking specifically about season thirty nine with um, you know, Kelly Kim being assaulted and that that he was not taken off right away, but or fucking what's her face? The cops are us girl? Well yeah, I mean, you know, that's the whole thing,

and I'm itself, Sarah. But the fact is CBS, I don't think there probably is a more conservative viewers ship, Like there's a loyal viewership of CBS which is older and mail, which is why they have n c I S fucking every city and the c S I S and all that. The impact is huge, right, and so this is still a very widely watched show. And so the fact that that conversation happened, even if I thought

to myself, like who are they doing this? For the fact that that conversation is happening on a show like that, that's it is important and I do see the value when it I'm sure there was I mean, there was like blowback from like there was Ricard was saying he got a lot of hate for bringing it up again,

But honestly, I'm sure I'm positive. In fact, I probably remember reading this that week that a lot of queer people who watched everything like, oh my god, what a fucking iro roll like and then it's like, well then it sucks. It's like they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't. That's kind of what I'm saying about, like as queer people, like maybe maybe that moment actually isn't for for us as much as it is for people. For me, it's not for me at all.

I'm like, you know what I will say in publicly that I will every now and then throw around the guys when I know I'm a mixed company in terms of in terms of gender, and I'm just like I would think that I don't know. I mean, that's not up to me to say, but like, I'm not even asking myself that question the way that Jeff is. And I'm sure a lot of other people identify with this, like it's it's it feels like excessive or cartuitous or something. And I don't know. I think about that Waham episode

all the fucking time. From Trell, the episode that Studio wrote that you were in. I talked about it with Vanessa the other day. I was like, I think about that episode all the time where it's like, sometimes when you think something is for you, it might not be and that's okay, and it's for it's for someone who needs to hear this because they don't have the same sort of social environment contours there, the their awareness is not is not as filled in as yours. You know,

like that that's what we're that's what we have here. Well, I remember when because we were watching separately obviously, but when when it got to that point in the episode, I texted you and I said, I think I said something like L O L this compendium on guys And I was like, what do you think about this? And you were like, it's I roll, but I guess it's not for me to say and I and then I realized, I was like, yeah, it's actually not for us to say. It's for someone who wants it changed to speak up

and say. And then someone in the episode did do that. I have started to you know, because guys is such a colloquialism, it's such a cultural colloquialism that it is that one thing where when I when I was was first brought to my attention to maybe eliminated. I think there was a defensive thing where I was like, really, we can't say like, hey, guys, like even though it's like, you know, well intentioned. And then I really thought to myself, like, you know, it's never going to bother me, so why

so it's not for me to say? And I've started taking it out of like, you know, from writing an email, like I will take that word out. If I'm using social media in a way, I will take that word and I'll say, folks, I'll say all because it's easy for me and it helps people feel good. So why wouldn't you do it? You know? I this is this is I should not be bringing this up. But I feel like there there was like internally some like queer

blowback on people. I think. I think it's I think now a lot of people that I know are like, I roll of all. I rolls when they see folks with an X written out in the in an earnest way, And I'm like, see, like, is there such a thing

as like overcorrecting the absolutely? But you have to do that to arrive at a place that's I mean, I would it's I mean this it gets into dodgy territory when you say this, but I do believe that there has to be an overcorrection when there's been such an this is not the word, but you know what I mean, Like when when something hasn't even been broached at all and it's been damaging two people, it's actually okay that we a little too far, you know, agree, And it's

like that with you know, and not to get into the cancelation of it all, like the narrative that. But sometimes I'm like, you know what if people have to answer for past behaviors that are that are not necessarily like abject harmful, even if they're good people that have to have an uncomfortable moment, that's actually okay because in the grand scheme, we need to have a reckoning about things like this and get to a place where we're living in a world of equity, of fairness, of you know,

actual everyone, actually everyone being respected for their humanity, not just some antiquated way of referencing like people are relating to people. You know, it's about humanity, and it's actually okay if we overcorrect sometimes, so the conversation to me, even if in the moment I was like are we really doing this? Actually I get it now and I respect it. I agree. Agree, let's talk about these remaining Survivors. Well, first of all, there's stars on the cast, their stars

and the cast, even someone like voch or Genie. I'm like, I wish I could have seen more of them. I it's hurts, like this is the first season I've watched in a while, and I did watch a ton of seasons, as we know, as did you like where this season when you lose people, it's hurting. It's it's it's it's competitive, it's it's high stakes. I'm telling you readers, I know you, if you, if you were listening to us all throughout the summer, you know we had our moment with Survivor.

It is not ending. This is another great season. Two summers ago wow, fun, I know, I know we're at that point now where we're going two summers ago. Summer, it's been it's been it's been like a year and a half. Let's just say and change. But um, poverty was was summer? Wow? Yeah, And we love you, we love you. Part of Zeke was Zeke was summer. But but we go way back, we go way back with Zeke of course, Um, yeah, no, it's it's it's a

great season. I think that Shan is the one to watch, and I think that, you know, it's almost that thing of like when you when you watch reality shows so much or any television and you start to see it with TV brain you can see what you see the patterns. Yeah, there's pattern recognition. Yeah. The narratives are built in, like you can pretty much tell who's top three. I thought, I love the narratives though it's something to like see the narrative for what it is. But I really like

this narrative. I'm obsessed. What do we think? I mean, we're recording this on November one. I feel like the Erica thing. I hope, I hope it gives her some intrigue because I feel like everyone on that tribe is we haven't really gotten to know them that much. But I kind of love that everyone dislikes her. I'm sorry, I will publicly say I cannot stand Sydney. Cannot stand her. Yeah, I think she is a fun character to watch, but certainly if the island has a bitch goddess this year

is Sydney. It's actually not her? Who is I don't think there needs to be one. I love it as an archetype. But I get what you're saying. I don't. I don't mean to describe this word to her to Shan, but if you want to like someone who is like just coming for you and it's playing this game so well and like is not afraid to like fuck you, Like Shannon is your bitch goddess. She is literally she has a shift. Yeah she is, she's out here. Parv

was never like the bitch goddess. To me, Parv was just like a great, a great like hot girl who knew like her power. Sydney is just like I'm just like, no, you stop it where she's like I think she was like fishing at one point and she was like I don't know. She just like brabbed about herself in a way that was just like not I'm just not self aware of what she was something like the girls are the girls are never the girls on the show are

never like me. I'm out here actually providing for the tribe in the way that like Ozzy Wood or whatever, like she's like something else. It was something that really got to me and I was like, her humor is not landing with you. Her whole vibe is not landing with me. And maybe it's because I like, I meanbe it's because we all know that girl, I don't know, I mean, we all know all of these people. Um, but Shan Shan I love, I love is a star.

He is coming out of the world wrook for me, Like, and you know what I love about him, Like when he's succeeding in the show, I'm happy, like and I too, that doesn't happen with a lot of people, right, Like, It's like he is sort of only has good intentions and it's very um but it's still a still journey, very here is journey good intentions, still very strategic player, very good physical player, kind of like a You'll kind of You'll checks a lot of the Buell boxes, like

obviously not the same person as Youll, but like I'm like, okay, like I'm not paying tribute to Nasier as much as I was, you know, I mean, You'll, it's like a god fully a god come factory, Come Factory called me the come Factory. He's so fucking hot and Ozzie was so hot too, and you know Ozzie has only fans yeah, but he's it's just like him like yanking it. No, that's him sucking checks. Dude. You know, I'm sorry you and you're you and your straight porn fetish. Sorry, I'm

not I don't mean a king shame but straight. Actually it's actually it's actually a little culture number one hundred and four straight kink um. That's true. Well, man, I say you know what to be honest, she's tired. She's tired, and also I have something to do so we can move on it. I don't think so, honey, I just don't want to. I wanted to just touch on one thing.

As the morning show correspondent for the show, I felt like I should just tell everyone will please spoiler alert spoiler alert spoiler alert forwards like to two to five minutes from no no, no, no, no no no, not even it's gonna be quick. Steve Carrell drove off a cliff. So the third graders are cackling writing this season. It could not be more insane. I the teachers not even in the room anymore. They're on vacation. There there the

teachers left her vacation. I forgot to get users came to school on their own, their own volition to be like, we love this so much, we're having so much fun writing this show that they came to school and now he's gonna drive off on cliff Yeah, and he's dead. Okay, so I know that I'm here to let you know exactly how much fun the third grade is. We're having writing in the morning show. They're having a blast, having the best week on the class. Um. We wish the

best for We wish the best for Dorite Kemsley. We hope that we hope that it wasn't stage. You better take that back. No, I don't think so, Honey is gonna be Derite related? Okay, what else? What else? I think that it might be Sime for I don't think so. I just wanted to touch on a couple because current events are happening as we speak. Current events are happening as we speak. Um, did you watch the Potoma Coinneally? I watched Potomac CONNELLI I missed Slake City. I will

watch that tonight. Potomacinelle, you know Vulture was I forget her name, but she writes wonderful recap through Potomac, and she pointed out something very interesting. She was like, all of the franchises for Housewives put in the Pandemic have really struggled with like a crawl to the to the

finish line. And it's okay because it's like it's hard to because I guess there's still all these limitations around shooting with COVID that it's really hard to like produce story out of what they're you know, what they can work with and anyway, But then she also said this funny thing where she was like, um, I forget what the context of the sentence was, but she said that Robin has been acting like squid word all s yeah, very very our e or just like and it's sad

because that's not the Robin we love. Yeah, I just I do feel bad for though, because that one wants to get married so bad. I'm just like, can you just can we just have the wedding please? I can't believe we had a wedding this season. It was Karen's second one. It was not vow renew. Well. Juan was being all kinds of fucking stupid this episode. I was like, why did he drive off at the mere mentioned that

he was not present as a father. He was like a main character in this episode and then when he was like mediating the Michael and Chris uh, I was like, I don't know, And then I was really happy the campus called it what it was, which was the white privilege of it all. The fact that Michael is even allowed to be there is insane. Assaulted crew members and let's not forget about that one fucking crazy. But looking forward to the Nicki Minaj host reunion, that's for sure.

I need Nikki to fucking destroy Giselle and Ashley Derby destroy happen. I'm done with Ashley. Actually, I'm like, you're not even that fun or funny. I mean, I'm I'm talking about this thing. I I was thinking last night about how Bravo went live with Brooke Ashley, one of our favorite house lives loved, but they went live with her and then they surprised brought in Ashley Derby and then Brooke was stuck to her guns and was like hello,

like what basically was like? Did not? She said? She said, Ashley this season is wearing thin and she said it to her face and I was like, oh my god, but her face when Ashley Darby came on the life, because there was like a surprise they were like, guess the mystery houselife from the chat, and she hates Ashley much so when she popped up, I saw her face and she literally was like, Ah, I loved it. I'm

gonna go live with her this week? I think, Yes, I think I'm going to live with her at some point after Wednesday, after after the part four, I'm gonna I'm gonna d m her because we've been we've been making plans to go live and have a glass of wine and talk house lives, and so maybe after this part four of the of the Beverly Hill drainion will do that. But can I say I'm tuning in, honey. You might even have to join up. You might have to join in. I gonna have to tune in for

that one. Let's do I don't think so, honey. It is a one minute segment that is iconic for UM the way that it provides opportunity to drag something in culture UM like it's never been dragged before. It is our famous segment. I would love to go ahead and do it. This is perfect, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey, people saying that Dorrite and p K staged the break into their home because actually, think about

this for a second. I know we don't love to read. I know we are all team Garcel as am I to the end of time. By the way, she's coming on last in April, and I said it out loud, so now it has to happen. But she's on the schedule out. We are a team gar But even not being team to read, do you think that she would

put her children through that? I mean, come on, like, if that would be crazy for her to say, hey, break into my home while my kids are there, the trauma that would inflict on them, I understand she needs a narrative for next season. Is the timing weird because it was the same episode on the reunion where they talked about like, Lisa, you gotta put your dresses awhere, someone's gonna come to your house, and they came to Kyle and took all her ship and hours later Derts

taking for home is broken into. Yes, it's weird, but we think she'd be that craven maybe, but I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute, because I did entertain for a second, when we talked about it the next the morning, the morning after, I said, this seems suspicious and only I'm sorry to say, only a hundred thousand dollars. They was reported that the amount of money they got away with the people that broke him amounted

to about a hundred thousand dollars. And then Jared was texting me and he was saying, yeah, but that's like, that's like a couple of her drags. I mean, especially when she's got price Point on her wedding gowns. I was like, that's probably a couple of handbags, a couple of dresses. Like the fact that they were there fully broken to the house, there was more than one of them and they only made out with that much is weird.

Also the fact that they were starting shooting on the new season that day that day and thee it was all a little odd, but sometimes things in life are odd. Okay, I know, Stranger than Fiction and that's a Taylor Swift song, Okay, better than Revenge, Golden Globe nominated. Did Stranger than Fiction is whateverr song titles? I don't think that's stranger than fiction? Was this is crazy that you don't know this? I don't all Taylor. But Stranger than Fiction was Oh that

was um, yeah, I know where you're talking about. It was actually from like a Will Ferrell movie. It was from true. Now that's no. The Will Ferrell movie is Stranger than Fiction. But maybe Taylor has a song that's called Stranger than Fiction, Stranger Sweeter than Fiction. Okay, wow, I'm eating crow part right now. It is from the motion picture One Chance Sweeter than Fiction. Ship. I think that's going on. Red Taylor's version pretty cool? All right?

So now comes the time where it's Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey, And I'm thrilled to say that now is the time where I can say I'm this episode that Bowen Yang. Your time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Plastic packaging that's hard in that shell that you have to get a fucking pair of scissors out and cut through, you know what I'm talking about, by an electric razor. I cannot believe the deathmatch that

I was engaged in this morning. So I could open up this electric razor that I bought on the internet, and I had to take two different pairs of scissors to cut through because the stickers the stickers weren't coming off. The packaging is so fucking like late nineties Costco bullshit, you know, like such bullshit. And I could have cut myself this morning. And I can't afford to cut myself. I have a roof to put over my head. That's right. I'm single, and no one's looking out for me but me.

Single people cannot be given these things, otherwise they will not be able to provide for themselves. And I don't want to get my caretakers involved. Spoon feed me my my breakfast in the morning, all because I cut myself trying to open up a package. And that's one minute. I want you to know one thing is not true. You are not the only person looking out for you. And if you ever need money, sister, if you ever

need money, sister will send a check. I'm struggling. If you ever are struggling financially, girl, and that Ivory tower of thirty rock, I will send a check to the gig. What is the top number for you? I would send you a hundred dollars, bitch, I'll take it alone. For the fish. I went to the bank. I slept with

the teller. I know they're tired of me, etcetera. Yeah, um yeah, Can I say something whenever you're opening up, like do you know what I'm talking about with the five million twisty things, I'm like, who is this protecting? When you're opening up like sharpies, when you're opening up like scissors, that kind of single use plant, I would consider that single use like it's not getting recycled, and

nine percent of plastics get recycled. That ain't part of the that that's because by the time you open it, it's a gnarl mess. I mean you can't reuse. I mean it's just pathetic. You can't give it. Get that to a toy, to a child as a toy, cut themselves just like me. It really actually Dane Dress. Yeah, it's fully aggress it's a weapon. And if there were

an earthquake, it will become a projectile. If you had it laying around, girl, if it were an earthquake, it would become that that say that, well, thank you for supporting me financially and sort of you know, argumentatively in that I don't think so. I saidfore you all the way, and I swore you all the way. You want to know something, but I support you and I'm not even

joking you do. Seeing you this past week, I thought one of the most special people on this earth, one of the funniest, effortless Jen was such a hit in such a way that I was like, yes, slay slack, thank you for saying such a such a funny. And everyone was like, this is the funny. It's a it's a I y K y k situation. If you know, you know, if you know, if you know the Pantry girls, you know, and Matt nailed it and everyone it's one

of those things. It's like, it's satire. You're making an observation about the world that people, you're excavating a truth and you did that. I think my sister from the autom of my heart and I want to say that seeing you this week likewise was revitalizing and everyone should watch this space on what we're working on. Okay, now, I'm going to give us both a break because I want to. I want to. I'm actually going to get to drinks with Amanda Study and Rachel Witski. Oh my God,

tell him, I say, hi. I know it's like a little popular union, but but in order to cut this up, I actually want to sell dog. Please come back in because this is your second time, because I have I don't think so honey, No, you haven't. I don't think so honey. I think we have to honor it and do two things. You need to do your out of think so honey, And then you need to end the

episode in a song. You need to sing it. Yes, you need to sing, so do your I don't think my phone, Doug bamb this is your I don't think so honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so honey. Remixing one of the best records of all times. We're talking about the Beatles and we're talking about Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart. I do not care if it's fifty years old. It has a place in my heart. Yes, and of the whole world has heard this record a certain way.

You do not have any justification to fucking mix it. I don't care if you're George Martin's son, mother, grandparents, I don't care. You are not allowed to touch that fucking record. West Montgomery did a cover of a song off of that record, So you see this guy with diamonds. It's amazing, one of the best records of all time. You are not allowed to touch it. I'm sorry, send me hate mail and strong and strong because people that did it are bad people. I don't think so huge

sing you pop off like that was amazing, dog. I loved that so much. And when Doug really goes there with the knowledge, with the with the with the music, it's trivia. It's not trivia cause it's not trivial. I loved that. I want I want to hear you talk about music all the time. I really do, Doug. We're going to collect ourselves and as we do, can you can you take me so I can't singing. Don't make me sing a song. Come on, I can't sing at all. I'm not taking an easy one happy birthday. Now you're

making me look stupid. That's a hard song. No, it has one hard note, the third one. I can't. I can't here. I've embarrassed myself enough. Okay, I have I have a song. Okay, Hey, what's what do you years ago? A day? Whoa whoa? That there we have it supported? Well, it's because you weren't supported by Doug and including you in this episode was a big mistake. That the way the way you throw it us under the bus at the end, you know what, I gotta guy drinks by you. I love you, Doug,