"The Infrastructure of Bangs" (w/ Ana Fabrega & Julio Torres)

l A. Everyone, hang on. I think there are eight million gay men in Los Angeles and in New York, and there are thirty two gay men in Los Angeles. Made You've made this statement before. That's not true. There is there's thirty two types of gay men in Los Angeles, and there's eight million types of gay men in New York. Explain. This is a comment on no, it's just like you know, yeah, yes, it's a comment on Oh, go ahead, go ahead. It's a comment on diversity. Um No, I think l A's

very like that. We went to auspin Off and I don't love circuit parties, but I will, but I will go to them. This is my This might be my I d T s H maybe maybe, but feel it's like such an easy target. I mean, we go anyway, like we're all going, We're going tonight. One of our guests went to one last night. Our other guests and I went to this truly deserted bar in Bushwick, and it was so it did not feel like it felt like we were in the Midwest. Did I feel like

World Pride? It did not feel like World Pride, And like I just had to like banter. Miss Jade was there. She's fantastic, and Hi Miss Jade, and she and I just like openly we're talking having a conversation with each other in front of the audience. But like there was like thirteen people there totals. You wouldn't believe what the two celebrities that were at this event last tell me Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper. Wow, best friends A C, A C and A C. Listen, here's the thing who

guests our guests. Oh god, I really and I throw this word around all the time, but I really love them. J June. Yes, Jay June was the term I used to J June was back in when I was like trying to be like I'm a smart comedian with big words, and I was trying to make a big word, very big word. Now go on. No, I love I love our two guests. I'm excited about this episode. I've been really excited about this episode because I'm excited about the show that they created and wrote and staring. I love

it a lot. It's so fucking good every It's like it literally is inspired by like Saturday Morning cartoons. We can talk about this more, but like it has that cartoonist cadence of like joke joke, joke, joke, joke, and it's just not even and sometimes it's not even jokes. It's just like a performance from GREGORYA. That's and I think she's character. I was just gonna say, I love the two characters played by our guests, but I think is my favorite character. She was discovered on the beach.

She was discovered on the beach. And also in the most recent episode, she's in the first scene and she takes her heels off and then she walked as if she's wearing the hill and and the end of this episode, um, she's getting pitches for stories from her team. Yes, a spider makes the web that looks like the Virgin Mary and a tattoo parlor, and so the people don't want to get tattooed because the virgin Mary doesn't like it. I also love when she accepted calls from the audience

and is Satan really? She said, yes, he's real. He calls every day. But then but then the line that she says to her staff after the show, to the people that created it, I know, I'm sorry, but this is just this is just for the listeners. This is for the listeners, not for them. She she hears this news story and she goes, I've heard it and it's and it's the truth. I'll report it tomorrow and laughed and laugh. It's so good good what goodness. Oh, it's

called Loso spookies. We didn't even say this. It's called Friday Fridays the best time. It's so good and it's actually a real culture. It's also Nuren. It's also um, they're so so, so so perfect. We love them so much. Please welcome into your ears, Anna, Fabregas welcome. Okay, so we're all like, um, just really quickly before we talk about the show. Um, and you just went to a circuit party last night. We're going to go to one to night. Let's how do y'all feel about circuit parties?

I've never heard the term circuit party? So what? And and thank you for for posing? How do you define circuit parties? Are like, Yeah, I wouldn't call it Bobby Juicebly in a circuit party because Bubblet is in a circuit party, and there you go, what is his name? I think a circuit party is lots of people mushed together, probably shirtless, probably shirtless, and they and the music doesn't

have any words. Yeah, and it's more like the party tonight is not Devil's Playground, is not going to be a circuit And also last night, Horse we just go. There were plenty of words in the music, and I love that. I don't like to dance to music with no words. How do you feel about this? I prefer words words, yeah, because how do you connect words. I'll take words. Yeah, you'll take words, and it seems like you're inferring. You'll also take merely sounds. I'll take merely

sounds as well. Yeah, but then what's the preference you have to have a preference? I guess maybe no words? Oh is this because you as a creative person or creating the own wards in your head writer, writer, I need a canvas, you need a canvas. I get that. Okay, So I'm so sorry Poppy Juice is not a circuit party. Well, I think I think that we are all saying that the parties that we go to our not circuit parties because circuit party has such a negative connotation, right, or like, oh,

we surely don't go to circuit party. Yes, but it's really not the one that Anna was. Another one that I'm described the party that you were at last night as when it hit one thirty, it became quote unbearable. Well, I mean that party always when it gets you know, because that's when like other people roll up at like one thirty and it's pack. Yea, truly, you know. But but but if you're there already and you're drunk, you're like whatever. But I wasn't that drunk, So I was

just like, this is too full. Now I'm getting tired. It's amazing what you'll tolerate with even a little bit of substance in you and in its intolerable situations. Yeah, you really would never put yourself and no, I also like we were just talking, well, I don't know, listener, reader, you might be in New York. It is the summer, it is hot, and we were discussing how we don't like to be this way and those parties are famously hot, famously famously she isn't there yet. They don't have it.

There's no there's no solution. Yeah, you can't. It's the rooms are are just merely too big, merely too big, literally, merely simply tu speaking of rooms, you two wrote the whole show yourself No Rooms, and you were talking about that. I think we don't have to actually get into this like legal discussion about for the next season. But um, I think I think it's just so it's so like you guys. What am I saying? There's like there's this

like obsession with like authorship that's happening right now. I think in comedies, and I think that you guys like it's a show that is like you it's it's just you two, and it's like so clearly obviously and wonderfully YouTube. But it's like you don't get caught up in like the preciousness of like, well, what do we have to do to make sure we keep some identity to this? You know, like you guys like we're just typing and typing, technic and joking, joking, joke and joking, joking and typing

and just laughing, laughing and giggling. Yeah, Fred gave us the seed. He came up with the idea he wanted. He was very into doing a show that was a Latin America about friends or he actually originally Mexico specifically about friends who were into horror makeup. And then he gave us the seed and then we watered it and then we're like, oh, this is not just that, it's also weird, and here it is and now that's the show. Yeah, And we had two beautiful consultants that were like, uh,

this is what makes sense. This doesn't make that much sense. They came over for like a week and now you can go. Now you can go, Um, what was what was their fantastic You eliminated them? What didn't make sense that they told you did? Well, no, nothing, nothing didn't like, nothing didn't make sense. It was more like, rearrange this in a way, Yeah, to help the story be stronger. There are was a narrative concern, narrative consult but you know,

we're only three episodes in at the time of this recording. Yeah, soon they'll be a fourth. Soon they'll be a fourth or fifth. Well, I I heard there's going to be six. I I clocked. I'm like, I clocked this thing that's happening where you're just like, oh, I didn't realize this person would be serialized. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't realize Pepito was going to be well, Pilpizza

return after not in this season, however, we have ideas. Also, I want to shout out Grata title and is killing. And I was gonna say, Gretta, you think, well, Gretta, you know she leaves on a cliffhanger in episode two, Yes, flies away in flies in the helicopter. Yes, but episode four she's back flanked by Udorra and Sam Right among others among others. Yes, Uma, Chelsea, I love moved to

Katie mccrack is the character's name, the actresses name. I feel that you would give a character the name of Chelsea. You know their names their names in the show are so ambassad American Ambassador Melanie give me has like four assistants and their names are Chrissie, j j Uh the Chris. I also love that John's name is Mark Stevens, Mark the CEO, Mark Stevens. You gotta love I love to the name characters is one of my favorite things to do.

Oh yeah, what's the what's the mysterious? Woman's just she revealed her name. She reveals her name, and everyone thinks that there was a joke that they are not getting, But there is no joke. It's just a it's just a funny name Tuesday Thursday. So you cast a lot of the actors out of Chili. Yes, so thea who are the other leads are played by who are from Mexico? So is my boyfriend on the show? He's from Mexico. Uh?

And then the named after the cookies after, But the rest of them are like perfect, Yeah, and you did you audition when you went down or do you get tapes or like we got taped. And then actually Betha was the only actor that we were like, we have to bring him in because this role has been so different. Nobody could understand. No one got it quite right. And then he was just so perfect. But the way his belt was all the way up to his belly button and just like he looked glossy in the right kind

of way. Glossy, the bish. That was very good casting, overall good casting, the mysterious, and then I just love when she comes down the stairs and she's like you just see, Hey, what's up. She's so good people, She's really good. She can greet people. So, um wait, how did Joe Kim Booster describe the show? He was like, it's like a much more sketch with a budget. That is because I said, it's because we were saying it's like so Julio that it's like we were, we recall

the days of much more. It's much more rest in peace. No no no, no, no, it's still around. It's around, but no one goes to shows her because they employ sexual harassment. Really, oh, I did not know this. It's a fucked up situation. I got it confused with over the eight for a second, which is where which is the first time I saw Anna? Which is yeah, and there's a Mexican restaurant now it's really a restaurant now that I went to and they have good guacamole once yeah, and it was all right.

It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. But that's all Mexican restaurants in New York, especially where it's like, you know, expensive, like here's modern Mexican fu, chic Mexican figure. But you said they kind of nailed the guacamole and nailed the guacamo. Well, it's actually real

culture number forty four. You have to nail guacamole. Um. I remember Anna Brega just at Over the eight, just just going through her slides, her photoshop work, and it was just like, oh, wow, this is this is this is perfect. And then you see it, you see it like on the show are you and are you? Like I'm having like I'm playing this game in my head as I'm watching the show where I'm like, oh, is that did Anna write that? Or did Julio write that? Which is like, so it's so sick that you together.

This is the SNL bullshit? That SNL bullshit. Are you guys writing like to each other's characters or is it? Is it? Like? Does is it? Does it? Like we'll gravitate more towards like you right for Tati and you right for on Dress. I think primarily we were right for the people that we specifically created. But I love writing that stuff. And then and then you're like writing on their stuff. So we're both staff writers in each other. Yes, you work for each other. Yes, how well do you

know each other? Let's play a game? Oh wait, do you have a you have like from a game? Was so sure that you had like index cards? The game will come from your mind? From my mind, Let's play a game. Honestly, if they were to be in next cards, that also would have come from my mind, because I would So what is astronaut sign? She's a Leo? Is that true? And not answer that question famously in aquaria compatible? Wow, these are very compatibles, are very compatible astrological signs. Yes,

you will be unsurprised to hear that. Bowen and I are also very compatible, as are yours. I am the Pisces. Okay, that scorpios, you got to watch them, you gotta watch I'm a pretty I'm a pretty unthreatening scorpion. What you are rising is Libra, which I guess means does that mean I present as a Libra? And okay, so then that might explain it. But then my moon is Gemini, which is also like, Oh and I'm a Pisces cancer Pisces water water water water water water water. Emotional cries

a lot. Oh but my feelings. I just found this a Joel was telling you that Coastar the co Star app is like bad. I was, I was, I was hearing you say this. Yeah, but but because what is your phrase? Because they just of thery of astrology, because they just pull all this work from actual astrologers into like an algorithm and then they just like they'll be like, oh, here's your chart and here's your day. Like it's very like here your transits, and it's like all work that

other people have done. Like you're canceling everything today. You're canceling, canceling Everything's Hollywood. The second round of the game will begin now, Okay, Anna, what is Julio's ideal vacation destination? Um, well, it depends. It could be a city. We could be in Berlin, or we can be on an island in Greece. Where we're going to Where we're going where? Wait? What? Oh? Yes, I heard You're going to so greta titleman who plays American Ambassador mill An Island in Greece for Anna and

I to enjoy four days of luxury. Gret mean you there? Yes? Perfect, Her father lives in Grace, yes, yes, and you show me pictures of the islands. Yes, it did. It looks beautiful well, but also but also we could be at a waterfall with Julio's vacation. Yeah, definitely. There was something that I every time that I go into a hotel, I get really nervous that my room won't have views of either sky or sea because if it doesn't, like, there is a seventy chance that I will ask for

a room change. Yeah. I was going to say, you seem to me the type where if you were to open the blinds and it was like the back of a building. Absolutely not okay, and I and this is this is actually um a rude awakening for me when I, uh, you know the assassination of Jenny Massage, Yes, in it Andrew Kunan and psychopath right, so absolutely, Like I'm not afraid to burn that bridge. I'm not afraid because I heard you defending him earlier. But I he's burned everyone

except Uh. There's a scene which I don't know if this is um poetic, if you can call that license hotel room. He books a hotel room, and he he s he opens the windows to his beautiful hotel room South Beach, and he sees that there's a wall, and then he just composes himself and then he goes downstairs and he's like, excuse me, might you be able to and like the way he says that, I was like, wow, that is me. And he got his room changed, and that was a metaphor and was able to talk his

way into anything. He was a psychopath. Well are you? I mean, like okay, but like walk us through how you go about a brick questioning the room changed? You call down to go down? I okay. So usually I'll check into a hotel room and then chances are that my boyfriend is present, right most of the time, Hi John, Hello, John, h thank you, thank you for saving me at the gym that one time. And I'll go in and then

John knows that it's coming and he's dreading it. And then I opened the blinds and then John is standing behind me, not putting the suitcase down because he knows that there's a channel that we might change. And then he'll go like all right, okay, okay, all right uh and then he uh. And then I turned to him almost like saying would it be crazy? And then and then I just try to compose myself I'll sit down in the bed and I'll dial the lobby and then I say, is it possible? Would it? Would it? Would

it be at all possible? Yeah? And then can I can I add to that and to maybe go higher in the building. Yeah? Absolutely, you know this, you know this as far away from the ground as possible, right right right close to the sky, close to the sky or the sea, close to the sky. They said, well, if you go oh yeah, if you go out with you get more sky of course, or get more see. Okay, Julio, what's Anna's ideal vacation spot. I don't just before you

even say, I don't even know what that answers. Well, yeah, so I can at least this one, um, I can at least present pieces of the puzzle. Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah, okay activities. Yeah, Well, after wrapping in Chile, I went to Rio, right uh. And then Anna wasn't so warm on the idea of going to Rio. This was not as attractive to her as it was to me. And then she decided to go to Buenos Aires, which to

me made sense because it's a it's a crisper climate. Uh, it is um metropolitan but orderly in a way that I think and A responses. She also really liked being in Santiago, I think maybe more than I did, because again, very metropolitan and orderly, very civilized people, very h there's no like uh, it is a very orderly hustle and bustle. It's not like it doesn't find other place people know

where they're supposed to be, like the trainer. But Anna did not have the best time in won Osiris really because the homophobia there is and and the machismo is like so strongly felt there in a that I was like couldn't believe. Really. Yeah, and it's supposed to be a very gay friendly city. So when I got there, I was traveling with someone and just the looks that we would get because people would be like, oh, you

look like you're gay, Um, was insane. Yeah, Because I think if Buenos Airis has a progressive place and like they've had like female prime ministers and or presidents and stuff, it's like, well, I don't know, I don't know if that's a Is it a very religious place? Yeah? I think all those places are vaguely religious. Sure, I'm sorry, yeah, but I will say I loved I went to Pukon, which is that that was like, oh wow, this is my kind of vacation. Also, and you didn't get to

go to the Atacama Dessert. Yes, but I believe that you would really like that. Yeah, I like. Um like, what I liked about Boon is that the hotel I was saying, it was on this lake, this giant lake, and the property was so big and you could just sit outside and look at the lake and like I didn't have to leave the hotel. Really it was like the most relaxing. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted to. I want to see some beautiful landscapes. I want there to not be that many people. Sounds so good, right, is actually,

can I tell you one psychopathic thing I did? Yes? Did you hate Rio? No? I loved it, and I loved it. I got it. But I I love Rio. But I you know, fully aware that I saw through the lens of a tourist with some money. Yeah, um, where it's like, no one's here, what am I talking about? Um? So I went alone? Yeah, I was real alone, right, and I go checked into my hotel. Uh, and it was great. I saw what I saw A beautiful view of the mountain. Yes, I saw I saw that the mountain,

I saw some city, and I saw the beach. Wow, it was perfect. But then I'm like, well, I want to go to the beach. I don't want to just see the beach. I want to go to the beach. And my hotel was pretty far away from the beach, and everyone was like don't you can't like go to the beach alone. And we're stuff in attendant and just going to the ocean and you're just just asking for trouble okay uh. And then I did three exploratory days to the beach where I couldn't go into the ocean.

I was just testing the waters into and like, how do I do this? How do I do this? I booked a different hotel room across beach. That's actually something that's not psychopathic. One time in Rio, I had two hotel Oh my god, the same time. Did you put your back down somewhere to put my rings in my back? It's like yes, checking in for one. Yes, I didn't know how long were you there? Did you sleep? And like did you like spread out the sleeping nights? Well?

First I was like, oh maybe I can, like you know, sleep in one, but go have breakfast and the other one. It's crazy, you know, the other one was just a locker essentially, right, that's really the dream. I think that is the dream. And you you you were just wrapped a show that you made, and we're in get a second hotel. Make sure that like a family who's dying to go to the vacation last minute. Can't room change? No, actually just had JH. Actually this all game, man needed

a place to put his back. Also in this last in this last episode, um one, Carlos, he kept saying, manet us little hands. I don't think you have little hands. Well I think I have. I think I have hands that are proportional into my body. Five nine. For the listeners, They're not big hands, They're they're complete. Says it in a like um yeah. So when Carlos, I think see this like little child king right, who he must court?

I love When the ring falls off the finger, he goes, well, you have to make a fist like this, You make a fist at all times. He's so funny. Yeah, he's a good one. He's very good. Okay, continuing with the game, what does a conflict between the two of you look like? Oh? Oh, I feel like probably easily. Yeah, you guys don't seem like you think there's there's this agreements, right, there is a maybe parts of like doing the show that it's like we want this, we want that, and then and

then we involve a third party. I see this party, yeah, and then but then I feel like they like I can't think of a time where we were like just disagreed so much that I thought about it after it. Okay, ye, then that is healthy. That's very healthy. Who's the third party? Fred Is? He was he around during like it's usually if it's the Spookies, it'll be like probably a producer, Nate Young Mathias, who are these names of the show? Nate it is a brilliant lion producer. And Alice Mathias

is a perfect producer on the show. God bless the line producers. You know, they make it happen. They really do, they do, they really freaking do. I actually don't know what the difference between all the different types of producers are. A line producer handles the budget I see and then um, and then Alice is accessible for a more creative issues on the show, like the wig fiasco. Yes, this was Greta's wig, so I will say that this was no

one's fault. Okay, okay, this is I will start by saying that this is no one's fault, but uh, it was. It was Gressul. No. Greta comes into her first day of shooting. Uh, and then our director uh Aptlete diagnosis that Greta should wear a wig. Why a lot of literally almost as we wigs. And also didn't you want like a like a like a bleached blonde moment getting her hair touched up and destroyed her hair? Gretta would have had to severely bleach her hair like truly, like

every four days. And then of course Gretta was like and then there were so many things going on, and in Chile not that many wigs. You can't the way you can't hear the way you can. So we find and there were so many great wigs available, however we want it. We just wanted Greta's hair. It's Melanie's, it's Melanie's hair. So they they find a wig and then they start they cut it and they stile it and I'm looking at it and I'm like, I kind of

feel fine with it, and this wig has bangs. This wig has bangs, And then I was like, can we get rid of the banks? And they were like no, because it's like they explained to me the infrastructure of the foundation of a haircut, and if you cut the banks, the whole building. Yeah, the infrastructure banks. So I was like, okay, well, I guess Melanie has banks. And Greta was like great, cool, and then she she looked beautiful. She looks stunning. She

looked like Gretta with banks. Yes, and then she she's doing a scene and I'm looking at the monitor and I hate it. Yeah, and I hate it so much and it just feels like it's not who we envisioned. It makes the character seem really f fake. Yes, yeah, she looks she looks Natalie Portman, and closer she looks sexy. She looks sexy, and but that kind of like yeah yeah um um. So then they're like, well, we can

get a different wig, but not for today. And I was like, okay, let us reshoot the hall and they're like, no, wing, we will come to this location two hours away from the city only, so we can have it with no banks, and they were like, huli no. So then she wears bangs for some of the for some of her scenes, and no banks for some of her other scenes because everything this was happening in that house that the mansion

were the inheritance here was taking place. So all those scenes there have banks, and all her scenes in the embassy have no banks. And then were we solved that Melanie was going to ask an assistance should I get banks, and this assistant says yes, and thus Melanie ds up hating this assistant, and then in the we wrote a line saying, everyone told me I couldn't undo bangs, but no one says no to American Ambassador Melanie Gibbons. Okay,

she just ended her banks. Then you solved it through the through the power of the don't ever say it can't be done on the power of the page, and honestly, the power of the page frontrunner for a title about the power of the page or the infrastructure. The infrastructure

of Banks is also a good title of that. By I would agree, yes, okay, yeah, because I remember in the first yeah, and her first scene, which I'm sure you get shot later, but I was just like, oh, yeah, but the bangs are a plot point, became banks became part of her arc and also just like fundamental to uh, so Mathea Melanie Gibbons, I think becomes this sort of like catwoman figure and that she's a friend and foe

to loves this bookies. Yes, So I think that the Bank of the Bank's fiasco is sort of like her falling off the building and the cats licking her. Just talked about that. We literally just talked about Batman Returns and how it's like one of the best comic book to see what she falls off the building, the cats like the cats so good. Have you seen Batman Returns? I think you would love. I probably have. That was the one that came out like, doesn't I don't know

four this Okay, I don't think I've seen that. Yeah, Michelle fight for as Catwoman of course, of course that's what halle Berry's Catwoman. You were you You're for Halloween every year every year hally Berry as the iconic halle Berry Catwoman. What is that little b BP it's a little alarm. It's a prep alarm for prep that I don't have anymore. Why don't you have prep anymore? Is because my insurance doesn't my sack insurance doesn't cover it. No, no, no, go to the closet and and and then you just

do the cupey for you or whatever. Actually, I don't know, see, I mean, now, don't put out of misinformation to our large don't believe us, don't believe us. Prep should be okay, I'll take it and I'm fine. Yeah, and it's fine. Someone someone did, were you not talking about this like prep for women like men? Was like, I want to take preps, getting on prep. I don't care what I don't care about. I heard every queer is doing it.

I think it's it's an anniver breaking character for assist straight white woman to be like I insist on taking prep. You never know, you never never know what can happen. That's actually real culture number seventeen. You never know. When I have mentioned this before, I think it's why So what time is it? It is now two pm? Why a pill at two pm? Because I know I'm always out and about sometimes if I want to sleep in sometimes,

I like I'll be up to it. Doesn't that mean that every day of your life you have to put the prep in your back? It's fine. I don't I don't understand. I'm like a morning but you you religiously wake up like six in the morning every morning, right, I'm not like that, and so like, like I started taking Prepper. Yeah, usually you don't have days that are like seven. I can't imagine waking up at noon, you know,

I wish I could do that sometimes. It was that something that you like when in like did you become a morning person or you just always always been a morning person. I'm so jealous. I mean, actually, this is something I like about Los Angeles, that everyone is a morning person, just because of the way the sun rises and just like the energy of it. Like I'm up at eight am every day. Naturally, Greta is such a

morning person. Greta and they are such morning people. Were all up at in a productive and I'm productive and I do things. Meanwhile, in New York, I am up until two thirty in the morning, waking up at ten. It's like really not it's not good. But the problem with being a morning person is that even if I'm up late, I still wake up early. I'll go to bed at two thirty. I'm waking up. I woke up at morning at six at thirty, and I was taking Luck and I later a wake for like probably forty minutes.

Then was able to fall back asleep until and I was sleeping in for you. Yeah, that was like, wow, I never wake up. Um, well, okay, so there was

an iconic moment that happened. And you are an exerciser to you, So there was an iconic moment that happened that was very shameful for me that sometimes I think of and I wake with a start, which is when I was taking a selfie of myself on the Pulaski Bridge and on a breakout ran by me and said it looks good, and I was like, oh no. I was a selfie of myself with the New York City skyline in the back. I had a really good shirt.

It was a soup jacket and like a like a like a nice shirt, and it was me posted up on the bridge. It was golden hour. I was taking a photo of myself. Yes, at this table have done are guilty of that all the time. So Matt Rogers was walking down the bridge and then he saw the beautiful skyline, the beautiful lighting, his beautiful shirt and thought, I got to capture this magical NYC moment. It must take an earnest, beautiful sofie. I'm not even gonna say

it wasn't earnest. It was I wanted a nice picture of myself because I think I had I think I had, Sorry, just got on a new dating app, and I was like, I need a nice photo of myself with the New York City, with the New York cities. Guy, I believe you that when you say I live in New York. Yeah, so they know where I'm at the interest in New York. I think the reason I even said anything was because I thought that maybe I was caught in your camera

because I was running up behind you. I was like, I was like, but either way, this is funny that it was very funny, and I was it was. It was the thing where I was like, I think I laughed so loud because I was so embarrassed, and I was just like, wow that it sucked. Like I was just probably text people after that. I think I texted I think you told me that. I said, that's so funny. Did you name? She kept running, she had things in her schedule that were important, not time to take a selfie.

Getting busy running and also I just want to say I'm not like a selfie person. It was just a moment in time where I was moved by this period and every shame a a sort of I don't even know what to call it, but a moment there is. There must be a name. We must find a name for the two maybe three seconds of shame that most people have after they've taken a selfie in public. Do

you know what I'm talking about? They rise their phone, they take the selfie and for that moment they mute the world around them and them in the lens and nothing matters. They take the picture. Then they put the phone down and they get a little red in the face because some people have seen what people have seen. And then often if their hair is long, they'll talk a little stund of hair behind their ears, look down, look at their phone, pretend that we're doing something else,

and leave the premises. It is that? What is that little shame? What is it? It's a readjustment. You're you're re Oh you're resocializing in a way, aren't you in a way? Yes, Well, it's it's it's a moment where you reckon with the fact that like that, and you I bet a lot of people blame that on society. They say, well, I have this phone, it has this capability.

It's not me. Everyone does it. So there's there's a lot of people take selfies with no hint of shame or embarrassment because it's like so many people take it selfies. Who cares? I think July is just so tapped, tapped into his sort of internal Do you feel when you take your selfie in public? For a for a moment after, I don't think the same. Yeah, because it's it's it's like it's not I'm holding a book. Wait, someone caught

me reading my things back down. Whenever I do it, I'll just scream out to everyone I'm I'm around, like that was ironic, Just so everyone knows that was ironic. And there you go. Don't worry, don't worry, don't worry about me. I also, I haven't done this before, but there have been times where I'll see people who are I assume like tourists. We are taking a photo with something in the background that's like very New York, And I thought, should I say to them, do you want

me to take it? Or do they want it to be a selfie? No, they would ask if they wanted my help. See. Actually, a couple of times I have done this and I have gotten the response to. Most of the time you'll get sure, that would be amazing, thank you so much. But also a lot of times you will say I like that it's a selfie. Only when I've been told that a couple of times, and a little facing selfie, I'm honestly that is an element of what you're talking about. That thing. I actually like it.

It does help you scrunch up your nose. I think it's for big groups. That's when I'll be like, hey, then it's a nightmare. I mean, trying to get four people on a selfie is like because the other people will pull out their phones. They don't mind too. Hey yeah right, And you know you got a vertical which doesn't work on the gram vertical No, not vertical, you turn horizontal. Let you landscape it and then you can't get it on the Instagram. Well you can, but it story.

I want my face to be big and pictures, pictures. How often do you run? Um? I run like probably through four days a week you were moving, Okay, how many miles you know? I called month. I'll do six miles every other day and then every other not a little bit a day off and relax, you know what I'm realizing you because it's two runners. Well, I I was.

I was like a hardcore runner in high school. I was a distance runner as well, and I remember like I thought you were gonna say eighty a week because during during but during hardcore training weeks, like I would do like wow, now see, I never I don't want to go anymore than I'm going because I'm like, my the stress that puts on your body and I don't need to do that. I'm not trying to run a marathon. No, people just enjoy it. I can like tune out for

an hour or whatever. Yeah, so you wouldn't want to run like a marathon, no, no desire, yeah, just it's it's great to have just have something that you enjoyed doing. The thing is like whenever I try to run now, like my old competitor's brain comes back and it's like, okay, well I have to remind myself it's not a race that I'm not training for anything. It's just you're doing it for your overall health, which is you know, I'm

realizing right now. We have not asked another question. We have not asking the question because Julio has been on this this program before. But we have to ask out of the question, which is Anna, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? This is the formative pop culture or like any culture in your life could be upbringing, could be whatever that made you say culture is for me, and this created the person

that we know today. Wow, um, formative moment in culture where I felt culture the question when culture was culture? You heard the question. Everything I'm thinking of is like moments that I said maybe culture is not for me, Like I'm going through like middle school things, like like all the different kind of types of clothes that I wore trying to find the culture that fit me described there's a lot of yeah, I guess, and you're right,

how is how is that? Well? And as character in those bookies uh hbo is constantly she's a character who's constantly stretching for herself and it manifest a symptom of it is that she has no idea really what her style is. So usually she'll wear that hideous little news but any time that that the themes to be a special location, she'll just show up in like a costume and idea of like nice like going on the date. In the third episode, Oh Well, Theies were so elegant,

people looked so beautiful. And a scene that we cut a scene that we cut from the pilot. A scene that we cut from the pilot is originally the other Spookies were present at the fifteenth birthday party in the pilot, and that shows up to the king Cianiera in a King sianera dress. Wow, And then her big sister explains to her, you can't the theme this is the fifteenth birthday party. The theme isn't fifteen birthday party. And then that was like okay, I'll go change inos like no,

but do you are you just agreeing with me? Or do you understand what I'm saying? And that they just walks away and of the vacant look like that. Okay, so this is like from like your own personal history then, because yeah, I guess, because because that is you know, looking for herself through work, trying to find herself through work, who isn't and then and then and then the clothes, yes,

or like another extension of that. But in middle school I went through like so many phases of like maybe I am a girl in Abercrombie and Fitch and Rocket Dogs, or maybe I'm a girl in like who's like a tumboy in wearing like my brother's Billabong shirt. Or maybe I have like a tie and I'm like aber Levine. Maybe maybe I have like a happy Bunny T shirt. Maybe that happy was ironic because the bunny was really mean and I hate your mom happy. You're just saying

all these things like rocket dog. Oh my god, I don't know what rocket dog is. It was. I was like platforms sandals. Yeah, it was just like rocket duct these big like fat letters, like like a like a red flame like a dog. It was like a weird dog illustration. It was a really simple geometric like so what drag did you land on when you finally entered high school? Um? In high school, I was like where

I'm It was pretty plain. I dredged pretty plain, which I think I still kind of do, although now, um, I think I dressed better than I didn't when I was sporting. But um, but it was pretty nondescript. I settled on like I don't want to stand out. I just want to wear something Yeah where I blend right in and it's functional. That's perfect because I feel like

basics are in. But this is like a nice like inversion of the question, which is like I truly like figured out where I like, what I liked, and what works for me, discovering what I did not like. Yeah, which is like beautiful, A great mind, A great mind? What what what was your thing? In high school? I was?

I think I might have been the same where I really like would buy like a Henley from Hollister, a fucking like some like a shirt like a like a like a like a disgusting shirt at not a disgusting shirt at hot topic, but like something that had like something like dark and whatever. Or and then I would like where crocs every now and then, like I was truly all over the I was like ironically like, oh we're we're crocs to school and everyone's gonna laugh at me,

but I'll love it. I was, I really like had no I had no sense of sartorial identity either. I feel like it wasn't until like three years ago or three and a half years ago that I felt like, oh, now I know what I like to wear. I finally figured it out because also my sister and I uh shared a room wearing up and we lived together in New York for a few years to sharing a bedroom as well. And I would wear whatever she told me

to wear. Always. We would go shopping and she's like this would look really cute on you, and okay, and then but I didn't like like it much. And then when she moved away, I was kind of like, wait, what do I wear? And then it still took me a little while to figure it out yeah, and be like, oh, this is what I like? A tiny little pink Yeah, I don't have to wear heels and go out in

the meatpacking district. What about you? What were you? Uh? Well, pretty much every school in Alsabador has uniforms, So that was like, uh, not a lot of personal style, not a lot of personal style. Uh So I obviously wore the uniform five days a week. And when you're wearing uniforms, does that fully like you have no time? You don't care to think about what you're gonna wear when you take it off, like the times that you're not like on weekends, day in my uniform all day, Like on weekends,

Like what would you wear? Like like you know, right right right? Um? I went through very definitive faces where I was like, this is what I am, and I don't deviate from this. So for a while I was very into I think it was just wearing. Well. I've always had an aversion to logos, so I know that you don't like text on shirts. I don't like text on shirts. Um. If the outfit say said, it must communicate it with no text. Of course, if the outfit wants to convey a message, it must do so via

the silhouette. A universal vision. Yes, um, I think I would do a lot of just like primary colors over pants. Yeah, like a blue shirt and pants, a red shirt and pants like that. When did you start dying your hair? I started dying my hair in two thousand fourteen. Yes, so is that right when you moved to New York. No, I moved to New York in two thousand nine. Oh, squad, I forget how long we have known. We have all

known each other. It is I honestly like, when did because I know I met you at the pit when you were doing Ethnic Realness. Yes, yes, and Ms Jade last night was our first question. She was like, she goes your show with Oscar called again? I was like ethnic It was a very twenty fourteen title for a show. I remember during that show and loving it. Yeah, that was the first time you met. Yes, yeah, um, yeah, I met you. There, I met Jo Kim Booster. There I met my ex boyfriend. There you met your ex

boyfriend at the show that you were Yeah. Oh hi Danny, Oh my god, Daniel, Daniel John. Before you, there was a Daniel John before you, there was a Daniel. I'm going to reveal something. I wore this shirt today because I thought you might like it. Oh, cassette tapes on it. It's nice? Why why it's a very nice Why did you think I would like it? Because I thought that I thought you might respond to the little cassette tapes, to the little cassette tapes, because because you like miniature things.

And I thought there was so okay. I think I feel like if you open your mouth, if you open your side, your hand, and you had a little cassette tape, that would be good. That would be like okay. Yeah, I waited tied into the shirt. Yeah, you wouldn't wear where you wouldn't wear her. I wouldn't wear a print like that. I wouldn't. It's ware to see you with a print. Yeah, I'm wearing a print right now. I

felt even I felt comfortable pressing it to you. Because I saw that you had a print and I was like, oh, yeah, maybe I was right. Oh so it's very light and it is famously hot. As we said, this is my like, what is the lightest thing in the looser pants I have? Yeah, that's what I like about Los Angeles. You can truly wear anything on any day. Like you can decide to wear a jean jacket and you are fine. If you were a jean jacket out here, you would die instantly.

You would turn to sand for sure. Um, what I think Julio is evolved to this place now that is very aspirational, but I think it's not I mean, it's literally not for anyone on a cost prohibitive level, but it's also not for everyone because it's like, not everyone

can pull this off. At Julia will just go and buy realms of fabric or not rings, but whatever bolts of fabric and then get it, get get things make I will say that I've been doing that, even when more yeah I'll wait more, yeah, he said, even when broke, even when broke more. It's I you know, because the fabric I make so much of my stuff, which is like now there are a few pieces of archive because they don't fit in the apartment, but just like really

cheap fabric. Okay, yeah, yeah, but that's a fun little exercise. And then and the cost of it, it goes into the into your tailor. I would go whenever I would go visit my parents and I'll salve it her. I would bring it to their tailor to day at which fourth is cheaper than a tailor here would we? But would your mom make a thing sometimes? But that's not what she does, she seems stress. No, No, she would design I was growing up. Ah. She she's more of

like an industrial designer. She'll make a chair for you, She'll she's an architect by trade, but she'll also design furniture and close perfects, perfects. And um, I have one of your sister's bags. Very creative family, creative family. Yeah, and on you right now, that's that's right over there. Yeah. Um, that's gorgeo. Very creative family. Um. Okay, Well, this is the thing that's happening at this table. Older sisters, younger sisters.

And that is why I'm going to start writing loss spookies with Julio, because now there's a different alignment and that is okay, yeah, I'm going to write Lousi spookies if Matt Rodgers, Yeah, I think they're good. Yes the room, Yes, come on just one week, Lets do one episode. It's you don't let us write um okay. I want to ask you about the live shows because Gretta was saying that she did your Guys live show with you guys

and Fred and we've been campaigning. Yes, you're very familiar with this as the Schoolturess is constantly hitting the campaign trail, rilling up the basely about anytime. Any time we come back from touring with you last season at work, Joy would just be like, how is the campaigning, How are the rallies? Rallies are going really well, really good? United? Yeah, loyalty,

I mean the people come loyalty Now. It would feel very what it did, have that vibe where we'd go out and do it to be like hello everyone, how are we doing? And also you kept saying I could shoot someone in Fifth Avenue anything about it exactly and we have it happened every day and no one's done a thing. Has been like fun, fun, They've been They've been fun. Fun. We'll come up, We'll play the trailer

for the show up top. And Juli and Fred will come out and talk for a little bit and then we'll all do solo sets and have whoever is also on the show. And in this city that the show is in, do some do a set as well? Yeah? And that's that's it. A campaign, a rally, Yeah, yeah, igniting. But but a lot of people, I think, thought that it would be about dismantling ice, about dismantling ice. Yeah, and it's the opposite of that. Yeah, right, are we

are racing? We're trying to make our own private detention centers for profit and you're gonna make graphics at say one an ice agent shows up at your door, just just go? Did just go? Who is it? Um? No? I think you were going to say that the expectation from time of the attendees is that the show will be in Spanish. Right, So are there people there that don't speak English dot com? No, I think I think everyone's by lingual. But yeah, everyone's bi lingual. Everybody, every

bookers by lingual. Marianne totally, I have awoken. Yes, you have been having Marianne takes and and what do you think about Marianne. Oh, it's just so funny. I think My favorite thing about that, about her whole night was talking about putting a man on the movie. What is the accent is one, she's Atlantic, She's from Texas. No, she's no, she's mid Atlantic. But then she's also like, it's it's like Diana Ross. It's Diana Ross. Breath you like this and I can go for like that is

like Diana Prime Minister of New Zealand. And I'm going to say, if you think that you can raise a boy or a girl in your nation, I you have another thing coming, because America has a beauty and poetry and all in all its forms. Do you see the clip of her I think, which was the New York Times where they said, um, if you were she said, one of the first things she would do was to call European leaders and so we're back, baby, We're back. I wish I wish she had said baby, but she didn't.

I'm sorry. Who is the next? Who am I calling? Next? Spain? Very well, ring, ring, Hello Spain. She is no way hurt. What a breakout star? Contain The contributions doubled so we will continue just been saying that I now I have been making a version of this comment, but I now have to revise it. My son is in mary Anne hard My son is in Maryard, My moon is Elizabeth Warren. My rising is Bernie sand Wow, definitely you're you're rising

is Bernie your son? My son isn't Maryanne like blatantly a Marianne, because your identity is My identity is Maryanne. Because I I my what I would offer to the American people are metaphors. Yeah, I wouldn't offer harnessing energy, harnessing the energy of law. I would heart, I would hardness energy. I would you know, more ambulance, less weapons. Y um. These would be my campaign promises. Uh. And then my my moon is in Elizabeth Warren because you

most heart is yes. And then my my rising, I think, is in Bernie because I am perceived as feisty and you're perceived as political and you know all these yes. Yes. So, Donald Trump, if you're listen, that's where Julio stands in terms of the Candida Trump. If you are listening, you better sit down and put the tea away and just turn up the volume. And here that President Mary with all my love, I'm obsessed with her. She's did you

know that she was Laura Dern's roommate perfect. I said, there's a world where Rena, a client, sees Mary and Williamson two times a week from Mary and Williamson running for president. Well, I fucking I hope I'm still seeing you at three o'clock. That's not who Laura actually as. No, but yes, I know that, Laura. I would be interested to know if that was a contentious roommate situation, because because everyone's like, oh my god, keep college roommate. Everyone

hated sure it was a college that. I think they were college roommates. That's that's I think the narrative culture. That's Laura. I just want to say, if you could clean up the dishes when you're done using them, that would be absolutely fantastic. The love in this apartment is just sipping away with you. She is, oh, um, I think, Oh no, I don't have one yet. It might be time every time. I don't think so, honey. Fine, Now here's the thing. Our guests have come, sorry but unprepared.

And here's the but I did. I did the trouble applicable weekend for you? Yes, I mean we could did we didn't we do it yesterday? We did it for it's kind of boring, but it's a really earnest one. I I love earnest. I want to hear Anna go off. Although Anna, we have to say Anna is the innovator. If I don't think so honey, because she was at our first live show famously did I don't think so honey. I don't think so honey because you don't. I don't

think honey one minute. And honestly, she's right. She I think she gave one of the first meta. I don't think so. I think it was maybe the first first for all the meta. I don't think so truly. I have one yeah, um, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. And as time starts, now, I don't think so honey. The flavor of grape. I think this is a bad flavor. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that it is one of the prominent flavors. I think

that cherry is obviously the best flavor. Now, I don't want to make this, uh, And I don't think so honey about grapes, but I actually think are very good. And I actually even like green grapes and purple grapes, like them all. But do you get the energy and the flavor of those grapes. When you taste grape the flavor, I don't think so, honey. So here's the thing. Grapes

are good their fruits and actually healthy for you. Grape the flavor in terms of candy, I really don't think so, honey, because well, wait, there's a specific thing that is grape. That is I don't like grape juice disgusting, disgusting, Grape lollipops disgusting. Also grape, sorry, but it rhymes with a bad word. We don't like grape. If you come to me with a flavor of grape, get out. And they're also famously the worst skittles. Get them out of the bag.

I find that grape skin. That's what I wanted to do. I really want to because honestly, you really run into a problem when you're opening a bag of skittles. I find because I don't know whether or not to just eat. I don't want to leave the grape skittles, and they're they're bad. You guys like grape. I like grapes. I like grapes. Yeah, but I'm saying labor is horrible, so listen, I don't hate it as much as you do. Well, that's that's maybe you can. Honestly, I'll mail you all

my grape skittles then from now on. So I don't know, and tell me what you guys think. Let's crowdsource on this. So when you open a bag of skittles and you see that there's numerous grape skittles, like, do you eat them first to get them out of the way or do you save them for last? But then they're the then you have the aftertaste of grape. But why do you have to eat them at all? Because I feel wasteful if I don't eat them. There's no there's no eating,

there's no consumption order. You can just eat a grape skittle. As you come across that I don't eat skittles, well that doesn't surprise me. But I do find it moving that you are so burdened because you this is this is there's such a beautiful irony here where it sounds like you like skittles and yet you dress them. Yeah, well make sure that is eating the and then and then so you're faced with like, well do I get

it out of the way to window my skittles? Do I blissfully eat all the other how there's knowing that the looming cloud of grape is coming, right, Yeah, I think that there's actually the film in this, there's a feature. There is more options. Well, actually we have well, so here's here's how I enjoy my skills. I think the cherry skittles are absolutely amazing. I think they are. Do they taste different? So skittles? Have you never had skittles? I don't think I have. I have a big sweet tooth,

but I don't like skittles really, MS? What do you like? M? Well, since I've been vegans, I can't eat as far as candies. I loved gummies, but now vegan gummies are not I don't really eat. I do love but began gummies. Are they powdery or something? Or the texture is just not the same. I mean you can get like soura patch that's about as close as you can get to that, but they're not great. I just I mean I like

cookies and cake and stuff like that. This is also informs a potential plot point if we're not enough to do a second season of Lois's Spookies, in which gets locked in a bakery all night and she eats and she eats, and she eats, and she becomes so big that her sister can't. The following day, the narrative ark for thee here's a position for you. Do you eat starbursts? I've never when I ate candy, it was gummies. Loves par about gummy bears, and I don't I love those.

Understand that I don't speak that, like said Powdered. Do you eat anything sweet, Julio, Um, I'll have yeah, I'll like drunk chocolate chocolate. When you come from two different worlds, I've acquired the milk chocolate acquired for dark chocolate. I never, even when I was little, I liked white chocolate. And then when even when when I was a teenager, I

prefer dark chocolate to milk chocolate. Really, dark chocolate is just like two um Like it makes me feel like, No, if you like beer, then you should like dark chok because it's like it's body. It's got like because as you grow up, it's like it's like wine. It's like it's got such depth of flavor. Maybe maybe I've just been denying myself that I like it. But here's the

ranking of the skittle flavors. Cherry's cherry is the best, Orange is the second best, Yellow, lemon is that then comes in third, then green, which I don't like, and then grape, which can, as far as I'm concerned, be banished from the planet Earth. You have four options. That's a great ranking, and I think I think I have the same ranking. But this is these are these are your four options. You eat the grape skittles first, you say them for last, after you eat everything else. Uh,

you don't eat them at all in random order. You don't have to like and honestly, most of the time I do. I have like a thing where I like to sort them and then eat them. Was my next question. Do you separate the other colors and decide what order to eat them in as well? Sometimes I find it to be a great ill to empty all the skittles out onto the table and then sort them by colorow. But this is riddled with stress, though, because you know that there was a part of it that you don't

that you don't like. Maybe that's part of why I do it. I think you're searching for stress and things that shouldn't be stressful. Okay, And that's that's a great assessment. The way you where you just start separate them. I will just separate them by color, and then I will eat them um like by color. So interesting people who favor Really it's not about color, right, The people who do this with like Eminem's or Skittles, it's fools to do it with, and you do it with any of them.

I agree, I think just eat them as they come. But like I had a boss who would, like on calls or something like, I would sit in her office with her. She would empty a bag of Skittles or Eminem's even, and there's no use in doing that. But like she would do she had this I'm not going to say like the acronym of like O, C D or anything, but it was like this thing where it was like she would take a collar like a red skittle and then the rule was she had to do

UM three. She explained to me. The system three a triangle of red around the center red. That's then do alternating colors if everything else had to be, and then it would be a hexagon of It's it's true that I'm not even gonna bother explaining it was just that sounds like she's looking for stress work. You're you're so you're pretty close to that because it's not it's a stressful process. I think it is. You're I'm merely separating them by color because I don't want my flavors like

I confused. There's nothing your mouth would differentiate the confused cut six. There's nothing worse than flavors getting confused. I was also that kid where none of my food could be touching. I mixed everything. I love that. I wait, there was there was also another another sentence that you said, they're like I like grapes, like them all. I like them purple and green. Okay, well, yes, that is that

is how I feel. And I also want to say one more thing which I forgot to say, which is I think purple was one of the most fabulous colors and for it to be associated with the disgusting flavor of grape, I think it's ridiculous. You don't like purple. I know, what do you? What color do you like? Clear? Clear? Oh? Yeah, you're a clear You're a clear bitch. Uh wait, no, I just I just remember something funny that miss Jason last night that I feel compelled to um so she

was She was suggesting that she wanted to do trivia. Yeah, I love this. I thought about it as soon as I woke up again. She was suggesting that she wanted to do trivia, and then someone asked, well are their prices? And then she goes, there are prices. I have prices. I have things things you would like the prices. I have things. I have things you would want. I think that you would have. Yes, I saw you laugh. I have prizes. I have things. I have things that you

would want. I think you used that as a line somewher kind of if you would want get Miss j is a consultant. Miss Jade as a consultant. Yes for a season two. Um wait, when Julio turned his head, I don't know earlier at what again he scoffed at me, saying that I, um love love Starburs or can Starburs or something. This was a very one of your favorite films.

You do not get me started. So the two year anniversary of Gutenfes Squeen of Gold with April Queen devices versus Queen of Gold, which is Julio's alternate title for a snow white in the hunts But no, no, no, no no no, The Huntsman went to war. It is my one of my favorite movies. That is when I discovered the culture of culture for me. So you have gifts at the ready for this clips of yeah yeah yeah, so um yes. It is the sequel to The Hunts

in the live action Snow White movie. And in this film, uh, it is a film about two rival queens share at least there I'm playing the Queen of Gold versus Emily Blunt, her sister playing the Queen of Ice. One is gold, the other one's eyes. It's not fire and ice. It's not gold and silver ice. And there's so many beautiful moments in that film. Uh. One of them is the Queen of Ice looking into the mirror and going mirror, mirror of them all, who's the fairest of them all?

And then share at least there on steps out of the mirror and she goes, does this answer your question? Oh my god? But the moment that Bowen you're referring to is so if you want to know what the drama is behind behind the two queens where they hate each other, is because the Queen of Gold murders the baby.

So okay, so in this in this long scene, in this flashback, because I should say that this movie is both a prequel and a sequel to So Okay, So the movie, it's like some of the movie takes place, and then a crow flies into the lens and the narrator says, and then the tail of snow white happened, and then we ease back into the movie again, both the prequel and a sequel. So in a flashback, the Queen of Gold, carrying a torch, goes to like some

henchmen as he's sleeping. She puts his hand over him and she goes no. So then the man goes with the torch and torches the baby, torches the child of the Queen of Eyes. And then as Emily Blunt is rushing to the what that what the commotion going on the cradle of her child? She rushes back the Queen of Gold, who has set this up, Charlie, And then Charlie's sarn. The camera stays sent Charlie there and who doesn't do a full turn that like maybe like a

one quarter turn to look at Emily Blunt. She's just like, can you do have it on your phone? Because I think it's I might not have We'll pull it up after just the way that she looks back, is just like like if the smallest like like like she like she didn't just kill her baby, like she just had like a caddie thing. Yeah, it's true. Oh my god. Yeah. There are lots of gifts of them screaming at each

other and like golden ice rushing. Yes, yeah, I haven't seen the movie, but now I must a lot of scenes of Emily Blunt looking at the ice cradle of empty ice, cradle of her baby. Is there a winner at the end, don't spoil, I won't spoil. Well, is there a winner? There is a clear winner. This movie has really informed so much of your work, and I think you would you would? I think accept that it has it's and I've said this before. It's a perfume and turn into an action. Yes, I love any movie

that's a fragrance commercial. Yes, yeah, it's primarily a fragrance commercial. Yeah, that's perfect. A song of ice and gold, A song of ice and gold. Alright, Well, it might be time for your I don't think so, honey. Yes, I think it is. And that means it's time to put one minute on the class what bitch? Yes, this is boon. I don't think so. Honey, as time starts. Now, I don't think so, honey, when you react to my Instagram story and then I I think, what's this a message?

I get to read a nice little speech bubble, And no, it's just an upward shower of vaporized fume of hard eyes or something. And you know, it's very I experienced this several times a day, and it's it's anti climactic every single time. And I really hope that people out there really learned seconds to um, you know, use their words. I think words. We cannot let words go extinct. And

I think we are on this path. And you know, I will harness words for political gain and Mr President, if you're listening, I will harness words for political gain. I will meet you on that field. What about love, and sir, words will win and love will win five seconds less. Yeah, just just just send me, Just just type out something like oh my god, fun and that's what I'm for you, something that you get to read like, oh my god, I love reading. Yeah, honestly, I agree.

I think it's a real culture. Number nine, the eight your you know, I will say I am guilty of sometimes I didn't take the emoji, you know, I think I've done to everyone at this damn table, and I'm a hot producer. I'm in too, Okay, I think it's time Brandon for Bregas. I don't think so, honey. We think it is okay, So are you ready? I'm ready? This is as. I don't think so honey, her time

starts now. I don't think so honey. Crowded bars, I hate walking into a bar that has not only every seat filled, but people standing and taking up room and you can't hear each other and there's loud music. I know that some people don't like to go to a bar that's not crowded because they think it's boring. But if I'm going to a bar because I want to talk to who I'm with, so I would like that bar to be empty. And that's that that goes out only for bars, before any any venue for nightlife as well.

If there's too many people, I'm not going to have a good time. Um I I if it's if I show up and it's empty, great. If it will start to show up, I'm gonna leave, and I'm gonna hope I can find a place that is still empty. Better yet, maybe as I'm saying this, I'm like, should I just stay home? People? Um? But yeah, I just don't like people being loud. There's more drunk people when it's more crowded. Um. I just urge everybody to be mindful of where they

choose to congregate. Yes, And that's what minute. And also I completely agree with you. I only like bars where I am concerned whether or not they can stay open, like because because there's no one there truly. Yeah, And you know, I'm trying to think about scale here, and I feel like when you travel, let's say you travel to Buenos Aires, I'm thinking it's gonna be great. It's gonna be I'm gonna have space and gonna have space

to do things I want to do. But then you get there and then the people ruin in or just the crowds, and then it's kind of the same concept where you're like, I should have just stayed home. Also, if I'm at the bar, I probably want to drink. And what people tend to do in these spaces is there's uh, like, you know, there should be seats at the bar, but then people they congregate up and then you can't get a drink. Get a drink and everyone's

bumping into you. Is they're walking through and there you go. The worst thing you could do, the worst thing you could do is order a drink and when you get it,

remain at the bar. Blocking is not the transaction. Yeah, this is this is this is an animal house blocking slocking access and her break colon and search for an empty place, and I do have I was thinking about a memorial yesterday because I think it's funny when people that are like I have not even lived half their lives, are like going to write a book or something that's

we must share with us all your memories. Yeah. Um, but I was saying, I tweeted about this, but I was thinking about one um called undeniably me and then colon how I turned a hundred dollars into four hundred quarters beautiful. Two different ideas, but someone called undeniab absolutely two different ideas existing. Holy Would you like a troubled or do you have a topic? I think I have a topic. I'm excited about a topic. He's he's really

he's rubbing his thumb across his fingers. You know. I I I took out my rings because I can't do any proper thinking or engaging with my wings on it, and I discovered I can um. There were multiple takes of that because the actor who played the boy it was was was really being very method, method, methodical about just peeling the rings off and was very patient. He was just like and she just Eightie was a pro the whole time. You know, Adie Bryant is a pro.

You know that she You know, you can recognize a pro when she doesn't flinch at a boy taking her rings. I would flinch because I'm not not to her, not to her. So this is jolio towards us. I don't think so, honey. He's ringless as time starts now, I don't think so, honey. The key emoji not being proportional to the door emoji. If I am trying to convey an idea through emojis, and I say and I and I'm trying to use the door emoji as a metaphor by saying something like, oh, I have I have finally

access that idea. I finally have access to this, And I put the door emoji, and right next to it, I put the key emoji. And the lazy, lazy, lazy people that make these emojis, they did both the same size. I'm suddenly conveying I have a door and a giant key. I don't have a giant key. I have the key to that door. And that key does not open the door if it's the same size to the door, unless you're trying to convey that you're gonna tear the door down with the giant key. No, I don't think so, honey.

The key not being proportional to the door, the key, you'd be so small you can barely see it in the text it ought to be. And that's one minute. Now. I have a question for you, Julio, what about every other emogiver other emotion. I don't think the grapes being the same size as the dancing girl. I don't go anywhere near the grapes. I don't go anywhere you're the dancing It's the only emoji that I am concerned with.

Our the key and the door. Or what about like another n a Come on, no, but what about like other emojis that like you would like partner together in order to create a story or a narrative. Yeah, like a like a like one of those um uh peaches and the eggplant eggplant. I don't know I don't use any of the fruit. I mostly I mostly stay with the with the fountains and the hour glasses and the door. Sure, yeah, a note. I think that you may be disregarding um perception. Perception.

I'm sorry. So you are saying, you are saying that apple thought. Well, okay, so one holds the key closer to one's eyes and one's door, and the door is always farther away. It's like I would take that. I would take that, if, if, if they would finally make the emojis overlap so that you could put one in front of the other one. You do it on Instagram. You could shrink the key on an Instagram. The story you could, I guess I could. This is a lot of work. But you bring up a very interesting point,

and I think we're the discussion is ongoing. Well, I'm just saying it's always Can you imagine the chaos of a text conversation if all the emojis were proportional, you could never It would be hell on the eyes. It would make a full piece of art. But but imagine text in there too. You know, that's when you'll have huge open spaces for the door and the text down at the bottom and all the dead space up top,

it would it would look really ugly. And as as as as a photoshop, with you, you understand visual art more so than any than your photoshop. You understand one of the queens of the stuff. You know, you're right. We tell you you have to consider the negative space, and there's will be a lot of negative space. Consider the negative space. And also when we're talking about the stuff with the emojis, it actually brings us back to rule number ninety eight, which is use your words, type

it out. Um. I think this discussion is ongoing. This discussion will continue. And Apple, if you're listening, well, Nicode Unicode, it's the company, I'm sorry, the organization Unicode Unicode. They are responsible for emojis. They all get together and I think there's summits and convey yeah emoji summits. I think you guys have to go speak at these. Wow. I wish there was a marble emoji. There is a candy

emogi that looks like it wrapped anna. I will never forget invented an emoji that that I need, which is open mouth grin wearing the cowboy hat. No, that already exists. The cowboy hat when they came out. I was just blown away by the cowboy hat in the decision to include him, because what is it conveyed happy cowboy? An ecstatic cowboy. Yeah, But then I started putting it on

other emojis and it elevated every every emogi. It does like sad looking down with the cowboy hat, he's like so much more sad than Yeah, there are emojis with the newsboy caps. No, there's we need to inspire them from. I think there's the there's the painter who wears a little a little like see there's a brush and une. So I think in the picture right and it's not it doesn't look that proportional. I think you two should should demand invitations to the next Union Code Summit. Emojis

I Need, I Need. We keep saying this because this is the title of a sketch that around sketch, a defunct sketch called Emojis I Need, And it was just it was just a list of emojis I need. It was a voice where I think it was Kit Harrington who read the emojis I need emoji I need who it was pretty much like like Kid Harrington, like this is a list of emojis who your doors, and then

the whole and then the whole staff at SNL. Just at the table, we're being like okay, yes, um received like the best of my work without okay okay, um Wow. This has been a very special, a tremendous episode. And Lows's Spookies is on HBO on Friday nights at eleven pm and HBO Go twenty four anytime you want even on HBO now now HBO. Now you think we could get you? Have you gotten a password yet? No? We

should get HBO. We should you should get HBO. If we've been joking about we don't have loggins, please get loggins, and they're always like okay, and they're like no, we need really simple as them just making an account for like some Oh my god, that is shocked that anyone. I think they think we're kidding. Yeah, but I think we're kidding. But I also don't have a TV because it doesn't go with anything in my apartment. Well I

don't know. Yeah, oh now is a r HBO go is car It's like you just say I want to watch Big Little Eyes. I don't. I don't need a sharp podcast. So you just watch the ones that you want. Oh, the whole deal is you have a subscription to your cables best and then that's the I think I have both. They got to cancel one because hang some I'm also using my old roommates Dad's HBO. Well, meanwhile, I have my own HBO now account, which means that my money

is going directly to Julio Torres and NFL Barrega. Well, you know, you guys get you guys get more money per subscription. I think that's how it works. That's how it works. I think, I demand that's how I think that they signed a contract and they made the money that they made, probably as EPs, writers and stars of the of the show. That's probably how it works. And that's the bez and that's the ever responsible for bringing

HBO at least a hundred new sign ups. Yeah, we're actually it's not about that, but we're actually we're actually in it. So you know, it's fun. My like actual thing I would love to do if we do a season two is a Euphoria inspired episode. Someone cuts himself with a knife at a party that sorry, HBO Hunter Shaffer is incredible. I don't know who that is. That's the blonde girl. Yeah, she's so good. And Eric Dane puts on Eric Dane U. Eric Dane put on a

put You see his penis. It's a prosthetic penis, but you see him. What's up with it? I don't think so many prosthetic penis is so the real thing. Save it for next time. Anyway, We thank you. I think you found your I don't think so, honey. I think I did. Being on this program. We end every episode with a song. Come on, there's no business like show business. No business. I know. Wow. That actually was good bye bye. This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by

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