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"The Bowen Yang Pokémon Experience" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Jun 14, 202352 min
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Edgelords, you will NEVER win. And Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang will NEVER stop talking about pop culture! In fact, this is an episode chock full o' pop cultch talk. The Tony Awards are (sort of) recapped! Tears of the Kingdom is reviewed (no spoilers though)! Matt and Bowen get into Pokémon for some reason! Tina Turner is remembered! Mariah at LA Pride is discussed! So, yeah... you could say this episode of Las Cultch is giving EPISODE OF LAS CULTCH. All this, Past Lives, Pink catapulting into the sky, I Love That For You's cancellation and Akbar's carpeting. This episode will make you HARDEN. See you all at the Las Culturistas Culture Awards this Saturday! 

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Speaker 1

Look Maher, Oh, I see you my own and look over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, wow, los cud lost culture. He's us calling. We're edging ever closer to the big night.

Speaker 2

This is that week between award shows, between awards night.

Speaker 1

How are you kneeling? We're half in Tony's mode, half in the last Culture Isa's Cultural Awards mode. You know what I'm saying. So many friends of the show were honored.

Speaker 2

I am very, very very ecstatic for them. I will say I was bad last night and I skipped out on watching the writerless Tony's to instead go see a film.

Speaker 1

Oh, and I can't wait to hear all about the film.

Speaker 2

I will talk about it.

Speaker 1

This is an anticipated film very much.

Speaker 2

So now will you tell everyone the honorable people who took home Tony's are to wear less.

Speaker 1

I think the very first thing we have to do is shout out Miss Bonnie Milligan, a Tony Award winner, a friend of the show, a performer on last year's Last Culture Racis Cultural Awards. She tore down the house with Natalie Walker to all I Want for Christmas is you Stay tuned on a performance of that tune at this year's ceremony because it is a repeat nominee. True, she was on the show this year. We saw Kimberly

at Kimbo. It's so incredible. It deserved everything it got, including you, Vicky Clark, Vicky clar Le, Jeanine David, everyone at Kimberly and Kimbo. Congratulations. I think this has to solidify its status as a front runner for Best Indoor Performance Live Performance. I don't know is it nominated. It's definitely nominated, but the tough competition, I don't know.

Speaker 2

I think wait, let me just check. It is not nominated. It has the title for the award, it is not nominated for Kimberly. Krimbo is not nominated for its own award. But that's in some ways that's even more iconic.

Speaker 1

It's almost like I forgot Wow.

Speaker 2

Is nominated for the Rosalia Award for KIMBERLYA.

Speaker 1

Kimbo did not score a nomination for Best Into a Live Performance. Wow.

Speaker 2

But I think the real prize there isn't the award itself. It's it's been in the namesake. Absolutely.

Speaker 1

What to say whether they take home the award this week or not. They did certainly last weekend and congrats to all the cast and crew of Kimberly a Kimbo All the house down. Also parade Parade.

Speaker 2

Michael Arden, I'm a faggot with the Tony. I saw I'm a faggot with a Tony.

Speaker 1

And that's a rule of culture. That's real. Coach a number twelve image with Tony.

Speaker 2

One better than faggot who sees adele fag Tony.

Speaker 1

Faggot with a Tony. This was one of the biggest nights of his life. I'm sure fagot with a Tony. Faggot with a Tony is such a huge night in your life.

Speaker 2

I think you're gonna be faggot with the Tony someday.

Speaker 1

I really do you just touched my heart? You just reached out and touched my heart clean Preston Burke style.

Speaker 2

I cut you open, touched your heart.

Speaker 1

Bring Preston Burk into this.

Speaker 2

Grace is back in the zeitgeist.

Speaker 1

Do we need to tell back by the culture. Let's get into it. Ellen Pompeo, So the biggest cultural news item of the week. And by the way, we are on yet again indictment watch.

Speaker 2

We're recording this on Monday twelfth. He is getting you know he has to go to the authorities, the Floridian authorities tomorrow.

Speaker 1

Got him. We got him. He's gonna go into the authorities. We got him.

Speaker 2

The Katies readers, publishist finalists who just came to you screaming, got him again. They didn't know, they didn't know you were edging them.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, Well, edging is something I love to do. Just kidding. I absolutely have to come all the time. But it's interesting we're even discussing all this because speaking of being all the way locked up in jail, and I did smoke a whole blunt of reefer before I got on this episode, but I absolutely am imprisoned by the charm of miss Ariana depos in this scriptless Tony Awards.

Speaker 2

So she didn't say a literal word the whole night.

Speaker 1

No, she said words, but she sort of used her effortless charm to improvise her way through. She even turned to the prompter's bowen and the prompters were blank. That is theater there, the bound her.

Speaker 2

You mean have theater with a teleprompter, you really can?

Speaker 1

And cameras with no prompter.

Speaker 2

Mmm, I mean with or without a prompter, you can. You can still have theater. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

Well, yes, absolutely. And also you know what you got was actors improvising during their presenter copy. Marcia gay Harden got up there and she said this, hello, my name is Marcia, and it doesn't matter where we are, we can always say gay Harden. And I thought she really left no crumbs with that one.

Speaker 2

That's really good. I mean, the gay Harden said you can say gay gay Harden. I mean, harden is the gayest word I think besides gay Harden.

Speaker 1

My favorite Pokemon move.

Speaker 2

Oh my god, Metapod, I love to click button harden me as a little one, Harden is kind of annoying the one time I go, don't stay staf mama.

Speaker 1

Period. What's the Pokemon that can do harden?

Speaker 2

It's too It's Metapod and Cocuna and then a Handleona. There's cass Coon, there's sil Coon there. So in the other generations they have new Cocoon Pokemon.

Speaker 1

So Cocuona, can we just get into Kakuna for a second. What was the risks and rewards of being Cocuna as a fighting pokemon.

Speaker 2

Cockuda, Metapod are very similar in that they don't really have like a lot of attack. Right, If you're seeing a cocuna or a metapod in the wild, their only move they know is hardened. But if you evolved a metapod from acatopy or cocuna from a wheedle, they can at least know string shot and tackle, oh my god, and poisoning if you're lucky.

Speaker 1

Does the cocuna eventually become the bee? Yes, b Dril Bedril Okay, so that's why you want to stick with being cocuna for a while, so you can eventually become be Dril and then probably everyone is like totally powerless.

Speaker 2

Absolutely, But like, this is how you knew you were gay in the nineties. Tell us about this if you were like, no, I want butter free, I don't want b drel. Yeah, guess what thirty years from now, you're going to horse meat disco.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Wow, that's the pipeline. That's the pipeline.

Speaker 1

Did I ever tell you? I think I've told you this, But one time I absolutely dominated a game of Yellow version with a prime ape.

Speaker 2

Oh that is so you.

Speaker 1

I don't know how I ended up with this prime ape, but I fucking killed the girls dead with prime ape. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 2

It didn't matter where Pikachu was, no, she got tossed along the way.

Speaker 1

I don't know how.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry to say Pikachu's weakest moment was Pokemon Yellow because it was a little piece of shit from the beginning. It paid you dust, he she they paid you dust at the beginning. It was like, I don't want to be with you, and you're like, okay, then don't. Then go Yeah. I wanted to tell that Pikachu off the entire time.

Speaker 1

Here's what I'm saying to anyone that wants to be in my life. If it's not a fuck, yes to hang out with me. If it's not a absolutely, I'm gonna be there. I don't need you, period. This is how we are moving forward. Okay, if you could take or leave me, I could only leave you, And that goes to that goes to everyone show me how important I am to you.

Speaker 2

I am looking at you and going who could ever leave you?

Speaker 1

Darling? And who couldn't? Who couldn't stay? The Archer is one of the greatest songs in Teller Swift's discography.

Speaker 2

Discuss one thousand percent. She was giving you mid to late offs like she nailed it, and like you needed the Archer to sort of bridge. You couldn't have had the Archer on nineteen eighty nine. You couldn't have had another reputation. It could have only worked on lover, and this was a lover song. The Archer paved a lot of roads to get to midnights. That's tea.

Speaker 1

Also, I'm gonna say this, even back in the day when I first heard it, I said, this song in a stadium in a big concert is gonna slap? And did it not? It did?

Speaker 2

And then some especially this little move she does on all the shows, but the camera hands in the most perfect way. Okay, I'm about to do the movie, you know, the moon I'm gonna do. I'm in the archer.

Speaker 1

Yep. The just basically was giving centaur sagittarius, sagittarianati, sagittarian. That's not it might be an aquarian.

Speaker 2

I think it was might be an aquarian aquaria now not sagittaria, not sagittaria. Can I quickly before we move on, because we were kind of hovering over video games for a second, I want you to just primate more a little bit. So you caught a mankey and then you evolved it.

Speaker 1

At some point I got a man key, and I think I must have just been impressed with something about what he could do. There must have been something about that girl that I chose to invest in her emotionally, like I was Alyssa Edwards and she was one of my girls, my dancers.

Speaker 2

Your dancers you are giving. I know your water signed down. If you're a gym leader. Do you think your type would be water because I'm not sure.

Speaker 1

No. I think I'm a fighter rock type trainer because look at my hair, you know what I mean. If you put me in one, I really feel like I could give you a Brock, like if they did want to resurrect Pokemon and do a live action film. I actually think I could give you a Brock. I would love to tape for Brock, Oh, I really would. Maybe I'll even write the Brock biopic. Brock is actually gay. He lives in rock Town.

Speaker 2

Rock Town. What's the name of the theater cityter City?

Speaker 1

Wow, you really are that girl.

Speaker 2

Honey, bake my ass. I can give it to you. Encyclopedia, brown Town down.

Speaker 1

I think Aaron Jackson claims didn't he tell us this like we were talking because Pokemon came up also when we were in London, who said they think they could name every Pokemon in order, at least the one hundred and fifty one the original though order.

Speaker 3

The vickis the Caro Manzo's.

Speaker 2

Oh my god, I'm sure it was Aaron. I couldn't name them in order, but I could name all one hundred and fifty. I could do sections of the poker rap and it would give you a boner. Wow, Electro Minky Minister Protector, Theore Piggy Regon Night guestly like, look, it's you.

Speaker 1

Really are one of the leading artists of our generation. You really are. I look at you in the way you performed the poker Rap and I was like to see, this is really a sorry pokemonm masterism destiny the one man concert I am getting right now of one performing poker rap. This should be worth Era's tour money. You could charge dollars and dollars for this. People would come to see you do poke rap.

Speaker 2

Should I do a Pokemon show, Yes, a live Pokemon show.

Speaker 1

One hundred percent. Your live show should be Bowen Yang Pokemon Experience, Bow.

Speaker 2

And Yang Pokemon Experience, or what if it was like the bow and Yang Crossover Spectacular, and it's me talking to Goku talking to Ash. Yeah, Taylor Moon talking to all the girls.

Speaker 1

You need to do a reunion with the girl Pokemon's.

Speaker 2

That is INSPI.

Speaker 1

This is actually a major moment. This is an breaking of something.

Speaker 2

An unbreaking of something. And I don't mean disrespect to the podcast Lost culturistis, which we've hosted for close to eight years moments like this icho, but Lost Culture was just a stepping stone to something else.

Speaker 1

To the Bow and Yang Pokemon, to the Pokemon, which is the title of app.

Speaker 2

Wait, okay, so first of all, I want to be like at a restaurant in LA and I want to hear the table next to me, or table like four tables down from me. They don't clock that I'm there, but I want to hear two fucking agents go. Well, I heard Matt Rogers is reading for Brock.

Speaker 1

I'm manifesting that. And you know what I heard is really going to shake the table the Bang Pokemon experience. I heard that this is a hot live show. This is a hot show.

Speaker 2

Well, he's been sitting on this idea for like what seven years, and he hasn't really done anything with it.

Speaker 1

So, but this is a huge hit and also, by the way, producer and producer.

Speaker 2

Okay, really quickly before we move on, we have huge things to talk about, Matt. We need to sort of take a little bit of time to acknowledge how twenty twenty three one of the biggest, if not the biggest year in video games.

Speaker 1

Oh, you've defeated the game, and I want to meet it the game, what the experience was. And by the game, we of course mean Tears of the Kingdom.

Speaker 2

Tiers of the Kingdom. Yes, nominated for the Betty Gilpin Award for Bisley again, h I think it might win. I think it might win. We'll see.

Speaker 1

I'm excited to see you on Saturday night. What happens. Let's just say me too.

Speaker 2

Let's just say that, hands down the best game I've ever played, the best game anyone will ever play.

Speaker 1

I was in Wow, you're saying that, You're saying that confidently.

Speaker 2

I've had conversations with Raiders, Katie's publicists, finalists. We're all in agreement. The ending is thirty five years in the making, in the making, it's by thirty five years of groundwork, and I cannot believe I thought I was dead inside. I really did for the last several months, Matt think I'm not consuming art. That's like moving me. And that all change this week, by the way, But I'm going, God, I want to feel something again.

Speaker 1

There is a fire in you well.

Speaker 2

Because can I share something? Yes, I celebrate that you smoked a little you consumed a little marijuana, just a little bit, just a little bit. Normally, you know, I like to be on my girls level, but I also have shared it with my girl that I need to take a little bit of a break love that because it just really kind of throws me off.

Speaker 1

I have taken breaks and they've been the huge beneficial.

Speaker 2

I am in support and so have I the past, and this is just my new cadence with it. Anyway, I took an edible in London. I took myself to go see Spider Man Spider and wouldn't you know, I walked out because I go, I'm too stone for this. There's a lot happening, and so far I think this is worse than the first one, and I cannot think that.

Speaker 1

And No, you had an complete come to Jesus moment where you were like, this is my mindset. I'm removing myself from the situation I have to give this a chance, and I'm not in that position to give us a chance because it looks visually stimulating as fuck. Probably overload when you're that high.

Speaker 2

It's visual overload, it's informational overload. I mean the movie opens on Hailey Steinfeld's when Stacy worlds, and it is a feast for the fucking senses. But it's all in watercolor, and you're like, oh my god, what the fuck am I watching? In the best way, But when you're stone, when you're a little bit stoned, you're like, this is I have to remove myself.

Speaker 1

And I made it past that.

Speaker 2

I was like forty five minutes in and I was like, I don't understand a single thing that's happening. And normally I do kind of follow this in a decent way, and I was just like, I got to recuse. They left the theater. But anyway, back to Zelda, this ending, Matt, it is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. There is a moment that is full circle. I can't even talk about it because it would spoil And you're being a good friend by engaging with me and reacting no.

Speaker 1

But I'm wondering, like if it's is it something you are able to spoil? Like, can you talk about it? Have enough people gotten to this point yet where you feel like you could share it on this podcast?

Speaker 2

No, because this is the kind of game that is completely your own adventure. Oh, it is a game unlike any other sounds and it really is. It really is like the best game ever made. And people are saying this about Breath of the Wild, but it makes Breath of the Wild it seem like a proof of concept.

Speaker 1

Oh.

Speaker 2

And this game is out of control and the ending is a visual unlike anything I've seen in film, TV, video games, anything. And there's just something that happens in the end where you have to do something, you have to make up for a failure in the beginning of the game. Link fails in the beginning of the game, That's all I'll say. And the final moment is not necessarily about beating the bad guy, but it's about redeeming

that failure. And that's all I'll say. It's done in the most impactful, epic, beautiful, touching way.

Speaker 1

Oh.

Speaker 2

I will never get over it. I will never stop thinking about this moment for the rest of.

Speaker 1

My life, and it's how the game ends.

Speaker 2

It's how the game ends. It's the last thing you had, It's the last button you have to press. It's the most important button you've ever pressed in your life. Oh, I'm telling you anyway, So we're doing that now.

Speaker 1

I'm thinking about all the important buttons.

Speaker 2

I think of all the buttons you've pushed. Think about all the buttons you've pushed. This is the most important button.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, I got eat. I pushed up and.

Speaker 2

Girl, that's where I went. I pushed an elevator up at University Hall and that's where I met you.

Speaker 1

No, I think we met in the lobby. I don't think we met in the elevator. Bank.

Speaker 2

Were you on the eighth floor? Do you remember what floor you were on, Darling?

Speaker 1

I was on the seventh floor and then the seventeenth floor, and so that would have been the seventh floor. I was from seven o seven.

Speaker 2

At U Haul. Yeah, Darling, I remember going. It was going to a hambercout show. I was going to meet Sherman. Yes, and then she she was like, my mate Matt wants to come.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And I had seen you post a video to her Facebook wall.

Speaker 1

And you thought who the fuck is this?

Speaker 2

I was like, this man is going after the girl I.

Speaker 1

I know you were crushing on Shermung.

Speaker 2

She was the coolest girl. She was effortless, effortless beautiful.

Speaker 1

She I remember, So this is the girl that you know I met through in freshman year. Her roommate and I would watch sometimes watch The Hills together. Say her name. I don't want to say her name because I don't know how much she'd want to be talked about on the podcast. But she and I were like sort of like trying out being friends, and we would like crack up watching the Hills. But Chermung would be in the other room and she'd sort of be like over it that we were watching the Hills, and I was like,

who's this girl? And then a few times we interacted and she did have a very star casting sense of humor, and I just trusted what she would think was funny because she would also like nag me a lot. And she was like, I'm going to see the sketch group and my friend bou Onen is going he's in the improv group. And I was just like, in the back of my mind, I was like, I want to figure out what this is because I might want to do that.

And then we and I remember, and I remember you giving me a little bit of the stink eye girl because of Shermung. I don't you were crushing on Shermung.

Speaker 2

We haven't really.

Speaker 1

Fully unpacked this.

Speaker 2

I don't know how comfortable she would be to hear us talking about her, but she's Look, she's living a groovy life right now.

Speaker 1

First of all, I think she is the person that brought together Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers, and I think she's an icon.

Speaker 2

And for other reasons as well. She's a genius engineer. Yes, she's wonderful. She was the person who brought us together.

Speaker 1

She definitely did that.

Speaker 2

Is the person who brought us.

Speaker 1

She invited us to the same thing. We went together in a group of four, I think, yeah, And I watched the hammer ket Show, and I do remember you gave me a little bit of stink guy, because later you would tell me that you had a quote unquote crush on Chermunk.

Speaker 2

It was a full fledged crush I was.

Speaker 1

And it wasn't like that for me in Chrmung. I wasn't a threat to you. It just wasn't thought you were I thought you were no. I was fully like giving straight drag. But I think Chrmung and I were always friends. And I also think she is smart enough to look right through me and be like this fag it. Yes, she knew we were gay. Come on, probably she was too smart for that ship.

Speaker 2

She knew we were right right anyway, how do we talk about you? Oh, the elevator, the button I press.

Speaker 1

Yeah, exactly. But and then, but that is where we met, and then we didn't really hang out again ever again until I auditioned for the group and you famously said, hey, mama, heard your auditioning, and you're super funny. Can't wait to see how this one turns out. Cut first round. I'm never gonna stop talking about it.

Speaker 2

Hey, mama, I don't think so.

Speaker 1

I think doing a colloquialism.

Speaker 2

We need to get to the we have not like resolved, like reconciled these two accounts, because this.

Speaker 1

Is the truth of it. This is the truth of it, and I'm ready to say the truth. I'm ready to say the truth of Bowen and I's first interaction. This is honesty zone. You came over. I think you probably genuinely were rooting for me. And like genuinely were like, this would be so fun probably to have another gay in the group. Maybe Matt is actually funny. We don't know.

Speaker 2

We were not at the closet at the time.

Speaker 1

No, And so then I was like when you left, I was like a little bit nervous because I was like, oh, Bowen's on the group, like you had a little bit of status over me there. So then when I got cut the first round by I'm gonna say it, Emilie Schmidt and Hilly Hepworth and we love them, but they cut my ass. And I believe and and Dresden may have been involved.

Speaker 2

I think Anna wanted to keep you up.

Speaker 1

Then you weren't in my room, and I remember you told me later like, oh, I was so disappointed, But I had literally no say because I wasn't in your audition and you were just cut cut to the next day the sketch audition went totally different. But the truth is Boon Yang was not rude. I just play into that because I am being Honesty's one right now when I say I just like to tease my sister.

Speaker 2

Yeah, okay, but sometimes there the truth and I never want to keep you from teasing your sister. But some people really do take that narrative and run with that and they go that they think that.

Speaker 1

You were actually a cun to me on the day. I understand. Yes, groups people are true.

Speaker 2

People are like, why were you mean to Matt when you have I promised you I wasn't I know?

Speaker 1

He came over of his own accord. He said this is he may have said some some variation of one thing I won't back down on. Okay, you may have said some variation of I heard you're really funny. You may have said some variation of that.

Speaker 2

Sure, and like me at eighteen nineteen years old, yeah, fuck me, that sucks.

Speaker 1

But whatever, that is the truth. Okay, that is the truth. That one was actually a sweetheart. The truth is Bowen Yang is a sweetheart and that's actually really coach to number thirty.

Speaker 2

The truth is, well, now you're like over correcting into irony and it sounds like.

Speaker 1

No, no, no, you guys, he's actually so nice, like.

Speaker 2

Stupid stupid girl. Anyway, So just to put a cap on it, Zelda best gaming experience ever maybe for the rest of my life. Diablo four came out. It's a little tough, it's a weird game. The breviews are okay, Blizzard, the company Activision Blizzard, the company that has made these games since the nineties, has been in a lot of weird shit and like the culture there was, you know, very toxic, and people left and people did all these

shitty things there. And then you have Final Fantasy sixteen coming out Pride Week, which is cruel because that is a fucking faggot game. Yeah, and then Spider Man two comes out in the fall, which is gonna be a sleigh because the first one was huge, huge, huge, huge, huge game.

Speaker 1

This is a great rundown. I have to ask you, did you get back to the theater to see Multiverse?

Speaker 2

I did not. I plan to. This is my week of Matt Rogers living where I'm I'm gonna watch as much theater as I can. I'm gonna watch as much movies as I can. And oh guess what, we can announce that we're gonna be on Watch What Happens Live.

Speaker 1

Yes, so exciting.

Speaker 2

Nine a lot happening the next week for your old friends Matt and Bowen.

Speaker 1

You have to tell me about paw lives.

Speaker 2

Okay. It is a debut from Selene's song, who wrote and directed Korean Canadian American play right. A lot of parallels to you know, like the narrative from like moving

to like Canada and then to the US. Well, I don't know, like not parallel, but just I'm just saying like it's a film that is and I know, like you know, the specific is universal whatever, but like it's a film that, without you knowing or realizing, by the end you're like, wow, that evoked something so deep within my own past history of thinking of like the person

who like slipped away. You know, it's like it is by the end, it is thick where there are these shots that like you're not gonna believe it, man, And it's just a really spare, elegant, simple, straightforward It's not like a film that like works with been like surprise necessarily, but it's just like really lovely, delicately handled thing that's telling a story that like any single person who's like experienced love and maybe has seen it kind of like drift Away is going to be affected.

Speaker 1

By Oh I'm so excited and happy to hear this, Gretuly. Yeah.

Speaker 2

I mean this woman is a fucking force, like from high maintenance to like rush, She's like done like I think her like selection of projects, and like her range, and like her whole, her whole resume that she's building now and that she's like.

Speaker 1

She's on my favorite show, she's on the morning show. Oh my god, you got to catch up.

Speaker 2

I looked into my sister's eyes in London and I said, I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna watch it with my sisters this season.

Speaker 1

I believe you're gonna get especially now with the added impetus of the Greta Lee sort of renaissance that we're going to be entering.

Speaker 2

What a stacked cast, truly a stacked cast of the Yes, yes, yes, I mean I'm excited for it to come back.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 2

Waits, who's the big get this season? Is there a big get this?

Speaker 1

John Hamm himself, that's right, John, Oh my god, John ham Of course, Juliana Margleys will be returning to the cast. It's such I cannot wait. I cannot wait.

Speaker 2

Now is this the first season after COVID?

Speaker 1

So last season it ended with her basically dying and becoming Joe Rogan. She's dying of COVID and she gets a streaming show and she becomes like a radicalized you know, talking head and not a Newswoman anymore. Jennifer Anist is, of course, And so that's sort of where we left. It was like COVID was very much killing the girls. Right now, we're gonna come back, and I think it's going to be more in the review mirror if I had to.

Speaker 2

Guess, yeah, you don't think like the show owners are like, let's just keep COVID in the atmosphere.

Speaker 1

Now looking back, like the way people have decided to deal with COVID, like and just like that basically being like, yeah, and it's over. Remember that was crazy anyway, Yeah, I saw bird brunching and all sitting here a big deal at all. Well, anyway, what should we talk about? You know, that's not COVID because it's over.

Speaker 2

But you know, I respect that in hindsight, because the New York that Sex and the City has always presented has been a fantasy, and that is seen and that is the version of it. Just like that, that is like this perfectly idealized.

Speaker 1

Version of you. It's a Sheena say of Sheen good as gold, good as gold. I'm literally well and I just turned off the episode because you were talking about it the other day and I had never seen it, but the episode of Sheena's wedding.

Speaker 2

An you freak bit oh the wedding for the first on the wedding.

Speaker 1

Wow, that wedding planner really was When you said she was a you did not lie? That was So she is.

Speaker 2

We must find her because she will. She she deserves an award after she deserves a Culture Award speaking I'm a ten person.

Speaker 1

Yeah what Tina. She is nominated for the Tina's Herner Legend Award, which by the way, was also named that last year. Okay, We've always had a category called the Tina Turner Legend Award, and that just goes to show what a legend she was. Talk about the legend because we have not touched on on this podcast that she has gone. The legend that is Tina rest in peace.

Speaker 2

I mean every thread of like music that like is still woven into everyone today is like fucking made by her. She was at the fucking spinning wheel whatever this metaphor is.

Speaker 1

She was at the spinning wheel. Tina was at the spinning wheel, and that's what she wi a culture number five. Tina was at the spinning wheel. You know, Beyonce, you watch her. You watch Old Tina, it's like you wouldn't have Beyonce without Tina Tina. I mean, if you watch the Tina documentary. I did an episode of my HBO maximum oh yeadcast about Tina. That woman was really that was like that was a total I was at rock bottom reinvention that she needed to do, and it was

like to watch her create who she was. She created like her own stardom and then occupied that and like it was just unbelievable what she was able to do in terms of how low she was.

Speaker 2

Right just rewrote the whole like dark past of it, Like what a what a reclamation? What a fucking like I met a loss of what to say, just because it's like she seems.

Speaker 1

So like, yeah, like someone that would never die.

Speaker 2

I know, I know, and yet it's like, besides the actual tragedy of like her life, Like what I loved about the documentary was that like by the end, she just seemed like happy and she was in a loving marriage and like, you know, yeah, she earned that.

Speaker 1

I always say, like I would have really wished to have seen her in concert one of those last tours that she did, because one of the things I'm always trying to remind myself, is you have to like see these icons while you still can, Like that's why I'm seeing so many shows this year. I have the time,

I'm able to go. Let's just get something out of the way, because there are these rumors right that that Beyonce had like broken her angle six months ago, or like she sustained some injury, so that in the beginning of the Renaissance tour it looked like to some people like I was a little marked, or that it was pulled back, which by the way, would be fine totally because it's still at such a high level, but people were saying it looked like there was an issue. I

didn't fucking notice any encumberment when I was there. Live in the flesh, I'll say that it felt like a fucking Beyonce show. It's also a party, so you're not like necessarily needing her to be breaking her ass in half, like it like just giving you Beyonce two thousand and four at all times, like firing off like a machine gun, Like she's got a lot of incredible dancers, Like the visuals are unbelievable. The music is a party, like get out of here with she's not giving out of.

Speaker 2

Here, like get out of here, and like, I broke this down and I don't people can disagree with me, and I'm going to bring in people where it feels very transparent. But I'm like people are still asking me like, oh, between the errors and Renaissance, like which one is better? I'm like, this is the thing. And then I brought a Gaga into this, and then I brought on Ariana because I'm like, it's okay to get different verticals or

different like things out of these different people. Like for Beyonce, she's so clearly influenced by prayers, by Tina, by like all these people. So like I think Beyonce is a student of performance and in this yes, Taylor is a student of songwriting. Gaga is a student of pop culture. She's giving you jazz standards, She's giving you fucking like dance, she's giving you power ballads. Like she's giving you every little facet of the of the crystal of pop culture.

And then like if someone like Ariana, who like she's a student of vocals and she she's like I learned how to riff from Mariah and Whitney and Beyonce, like that is how I learned to saying that is how I learned to perform. It's like any single person is going to have their one beam of light that they like transmit, and that is I love that. I love that about like the landscape right now. It's actually great that one person isn't everything to everyone.

Speaker 1

Yeah, anyway, I mean there was this video that I sent you just to speak about like what people do. I sent Poe in a video of Pink is on tour. Okay, yeah, so Pink during so what in her like arena tour gets I really don't know how to describe it other than to say she gets catapulted into the sky, spinning, twirling and flying doing flips successively to the back of the stadium from the front, from the stage to the

back of the damn arena. And I'm telling you it's the rig they put the camera on so they can take like aerial like videos of the fucking football game, like the kicks and everything. They put Pink in that contraption and shot her into the air. Mama, Katie, can you believe this?

Speaker 2

Katie?

Speaker 1

Put the baby do? Said? Do I have to see Pink? Because if that's happening during so what why is that happening during? So what's happening during Who knew what's happening doing? Just give me the reason. Just like a picture of girls, stupid girls.

Speaker 2

That is stupid in the best way. Her fucking tribute shaing into the audience and the audience going a little bit silent, being like, oh, like is this okay?

Speaker 1

Posted it the person that posted it with the caption this has me crying, And a bunch of consonants.

Speaker 2

That really added A lot of the replies were like, Pink has no songs in her catalog that would for how this good soup.

Speaker 1

Bad catapulted into the air.

Speaker 2

If she did that during Razor Glass, I would fucking explode. I'd be like, that's off the line.

Speaker 1

We're gonna lose on my tonight.

Speaker 2

But why so serious? And then she launches into.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, like Glass while that place she's spinning through the skies like I love it.

Speaker 2

Oh, I'm telling you, I need that.

Speaker 1

I mean you. But here's the thing. You have to imagine that if so what she gets catapulted into the air and I'm saying it again, what happens during those other songs? You know what I mean? Like what happens during Don't let Me Get Me.

Speaker 2

This woman has been on the silks, swinging around the vines of every stadium in this country and world of ours. I trust her, she knows what she's doing.

Speaker 1

She's just I read an article after watching that video where she said that ariieal stunts keep her humble and said, quote, why would I stay on the ground if I don't have to? That is an amazing question. Think why would I stay on the ground if I don't have to? That's actually a really culture number eighty eight. Why would I stay on the ground if I don't have to? That's an amazing question.

Speaker 2

I don't disagree. Like, this woman wants to feel weightless, and she wants us to feel weightless.

Speaker 1

Like.

Speaker 2

The reason that video is getting so much play of being like rocketed into the audience is because not a single singer is gonna do that.

Speaker 1

I think, can I be honest with you, and I'm gonna be really honest with you. I can see one doing it, and her name is Halsey. I can see Halsey getting into an era where she's shooting through the air, right.

Speaker 2

But Halsey certainly doesn't have songs that warrant that.

Speaker 1

Either I would say, hey, listen, queen, not yet, not yet coming back hard.

Speaker 2

Oh the last Hallsey album was a fucking work of art.

Speaker 1

You know that her country song is one of the songs that gets the most play.

Speaker 2

You should be said, yeah, so I'm not a woman, I'm a god, so so so so good. But anyway, Pink is back and she's been like like the last album, we got a lot of play.

Speaker 1

I think, I mean, Pink never really left. Here's the thing. Pink is back, but she never really left. That's a real culture number fifty. Pink is back, but she never really never really left.

Speaker 2

Wait, did Pink win the tricon word? No Pink one video game guard?

Speaker 1

What's a tricon?

Speaker 2

Tricon is one of the tricons? Me on Fire Island, honey, what does that mean?

Speaker 1

I don't know. I was just doing like an old gay joke. Try con tri coon. That sounds like me.

Speaker 2

In the Springs, Yeah, yeah, in the Springs, you know the Springs, Disney Springs.

Speaker 1

Oh my god. Patrick got back from Iceland and said that everywhere is a sauna there.

Speaker 2

The vibe is sauna.

Speaker 1

Oh my god. They said they had the most incredible time, and then I thought we must return because you also are one with Iceland.

Speaker 2

Oh, I love it there, I love it.

Speaker 1

They're so much Should we do Iceland New Year's one? Would it be absolutely freezing?

Speaker 2

Yes, but we'll be fine, like they know how to keep like and those people can drink.

Speaker 1

Yes, this is what I want to do. We can get people on board to do this, We really could.

Speaker 2

The hotels are really nice, the spas are stunning. Oh my god, we have to go. We have to go.

Speaker 1

I mean, I'm so attracted to the idea of constant daylight, but I guess by that time it'll be constant No.

Speaker 2

It'll be constant darkness. But that's kind of a vibe. It's kind of a vibe for New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1

Not no, not no, the.

Speaker 2

Way we're thinking about him now.

Speaker 1

We weren't thinking about it before, but we are thinking about him now.

Speaker 2

Who I would say, Matt Rogers is a student of If any one person is going to occupy everything, it's Matt Rogers.

Speaker 1

What are you talking about? Everything?

Speaker 2

You You are vocals, performance, comedy, absurdity, stupidity, intelligence, Christmas, every other day of the year. You are everything. Mama, I worship you.

Speaker 1

You are the star of my world.

Speaker 2

Now you I would kill for you.

Speaker 1

Pointing at you, diva waiting at you. Get this screenshot. This is the goddamn cover art. This time is the cover. Okay, they got it, I think. I mean, if they didn't get it, they're fucking fired. Can I say, if they didn't get that, they are so fired? Honest has got it? Yeah, by the skin of your teeth.

Speaker 2

Damn right, you're right.

Speaker 1

Fuck when they're right.

Speaker 2

Anything else we have to discuss, girl.

Speaker 1

I guess I'll just briefly touch on this. Or should I do? I don't think so, honey. Maybe I'll do. I don't think so honey. The big news, I don't know what you're referring to, but well you'll know the second I started saying it. This is I don't think money, the Star sixty second second where we drag read, go off and more. In culture, this.

Speaker 2

Is Matt Rodgers. I don't think Sony as time starts.

Speaker 1

Now, I don't think so honey, that I love that for you is canceled. This bring it back, Someone bring it back. This deserves a second season. And I'm not just being selfish about it. No, it deserves a second season because I need it. We love the show. It deserves to go on. This is stupid. It was warmly received and got a lot more fans as it went. We need revival for I love that for you. I am calling for it. I am on the show now loud. I'm quiet, I'm getting loud. We need this show still

on the air. Do it, put it on Netflix. Peacock, where are you now after all the support that I've given you seconds, Peacock, Oh, don't make me storm the halls. Somebody better get to it. Keep me working, Keep Vanessa slaying, keep Molly slaying, keep Jennifer Lewis saying, I love that for you. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 2

That's one minute. I need to say something right now, Peacock. If you don't pick up I love that for you, I'm never ever, ever shilling for you again.

Speaker 1

I'm never get it together. Somebody better get it together. Look, if it's not them, I won't be angry at them, but I'm saying, somebody better scoop it up or else it's gonna be war, and it's let me tell you something right now, I am ready fight. It's war at this point.

Speaker 2

This is war, and the roots of the grass are firmly planted in this movement. Okay, do you.

Speaker 1

Hear me, make noise, get to the streets, get your pitchforks lipped.

Speaker 2

Okay, Mi girl giving you iconography week after week, dressed in the tightest, most well fitted suits you can possibly see on television.

Speaker 1

I'm not even gonna say no, You're fucking right.

Speaker 2

Murray Bartlett found Dead was iconic in that show?

Speaker 1

You really were?

Speaker 2

I look at me. You were iconic on that show.

Speaker 1

I was iconic in that show. I deserve to do more. Bring it back. You hear my voice, don't laugh, don't laugh.

Speaker 2

You do deserve to do more.

Speaker 1

I bring it back and producer Anosaurus. The discourse is toxic.

Speaker 2

Oh no, no, no, the discourse isn't toxic enough. We need to make it. We need to add poison to the well. Because ladies scare these people like you want to cancel. I love that for you.

Speaker 1

This is war.

Speaker 2

This is war.

Speaker 1

I'm not taking this one laying down. I'm not taking this one laying down. I'm not taking this one link down like I took Game Show. I'm not taking this one laying down like I took hot dog. I'm not taking this one lying down. I'm dying for this one.

Speaker 2

I'm throwing myself on the tracks with the ship.

Speaker 1

Revive it now.

Speaker 2

Revive it.

Speaker 1

Okay, Okay, Queena, are you ready?

Speaker 2

I'm ready.

Speaker 1

This is the moment you've been waiting for. This is the moment when Bowen Yang dost is. I don't think so honey, and his time starts now.

Speaker 2

I don't think so honey. Carpeted gay clubs? What are you doing? I had to think to myself. I went, I haven't been back to la in like a year. I wonder why. I guess it's because I've been working in other places. I guess it's because my two friend is by coastal right now. But then I went, oh, no, I know why. It's because fucking app bar has carpet. I say, no, you can't have You can't have a party called Bears in space and then also have carpet. It's too much, too much, quirky on quirky. Okay, you

can't do it. I can't handle it. Okay, what is this? What do you think you are? The Tower of terror? Get the carpet out, fift The only reason you should have carpet is if you're a grandmother, your grandmother, there's neighbors that there's neighbors downstairs who don't want to hear the footsteps. You know, if you're the Tower of Terror, which by the way, is at risk for being destroyed.

Speaker 1

And that's what is it? Actually at risk for being destroyed? You feel?

Speaker 2

I feel like it is. I feel like there are movements happening to make sure that it is preserved in Orlando, listen, really think it's it's on the chopping block, and some people out there will not have it, including me and you.

Speaker 1

We will fight like you're going to cancel the Tower of Terror like you canceled. I love that this is war. This is what's actually warm.

Speaker 2

I am my fair and though here's the thing, I love Actbar, I actually love actpar Can. I just be clear to everyone who has a stake in that place loves going there. I I'm with you, but I go sometimes I go, why is their carpet?

Speaker 1

I had so much fun there this weekend and I just have to say that La Pride Weekend at Acbar was a moment bears in space. I love and I went there after Saturday's La Pride to debrief Mariah, and that was really fun. The dance floor was actually going off, and that is the part of the place that's not carpeted. So you know, here's the thing. I do think that the carpeting and acbar like adds to its charm. That's sort of like den feel. I feel like the carpeting it's really helping me with that.

Speaker 2

I think it's like take one thing off before you leave the house. I think I think the lighting is a plus, the decor on the wall a plus. Everything about it is perfect. There are things that cling cling on the rugs, on the carpets. It's just a little bit more hygienic of an experience if you just take it out.

Speaker 1

I hear you, I he That's why I kind of like going during the week sometimes because then it's like we're cozy vibes and we're not noticing that like things are spilling.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but things spill, but you notice that things are spilling on the weekend because it happens it's a rug. When I was growing up, my sister and I thought our heads would get cut off because she was painting her toenails in the bathroom and I knocked over the nail polish and it went on the rug and we had to take bleach and scrub it away before our

parents got home, and they still noticed. It is the most stressful situation in the world to have liquid on carpet, and you're inviting that to happen every two minutes.

Speaker 1

I mean literally, Mother. Where I sit and where I look at you week in and week out on this podcast is also where I sit and work. And I am sitting on a couch that is placed on a carpet.

Speaker 2

Is your apartment a gay bar?

Speaker 1

No, I'm not saying that, but I am saying I'm identifying with the spills on carpets because I have to tell you, I say, your eyes sometimes dring coffee, and there was a day I did spill a hot coffee all over this carpet. So I'm sitting on top of a very stained carpet and I don't like it one bit.

Speaker 2

Unseemly, unseemly, And I hope you never have every king in the East Side scene of gay night life at your apartment, because guess what, they're all there at acbar looking at stains so.

Speaker 1

True and feel it at home here to all the East gays of La come over over see my stain. Now.

Speaker 2

I do love acbar very dear.

Speaker 1

It was so fun this weekend I had. I had a blast La pride, except from having an STI that I'm recovering from. And we need to call them sdis.

Speaker 2

We need to call them sdis. But I think this is a great outcome because you were worried for a second that you were gonna be able to go and partake in the festivities. And I'm really happy that you did. Because I saw on stories, I was like, that's out.

Speaker 1

Good for him. It took me a while to get there, but I got there, and I'm in treatment. I'm in treatment. I had to enter treatment as a result of my std.

Speaker 2

I in treatment. Storry uzo.

Speaker 1

Okay, Well, was I too hard the Mariah thing of it all? No, I just wanted to be honest. Good.

Speaker 2

We need to be honest on the.

Speaker 1

Yeah, just looked like she looked nervous.

Speaker 2

People on the Reddit where I'm commenting on us not commenting on the Matti heelia of at all.

Speaker 1

Oh, I'm happy they broke up.

Speaker 2

Well now people are saying that they might not have any just kind of tree pain and just kind of put that out there in order to keep it underground so that people could stop making a big fuss out of it.

Speaker 1

Mmmm. I mean, I gotta say, I don't enjoy him.

Speaker 2

I just I'm disappointed that like edge lords are winning with this one.

Speaker 1

You know, edge Lords, You'll never win because I have to come. Okay, I'm saying it again. Edge lords will never win because I have to come. That's I rule killed your number two. Edge Lords will never ever win because I have to come underline that have to.

Speaker 2

Also, I'm sorry. It doesn't matter who you are, what gender you are, what your occupation is. If your thing is like you stick your to down people's throats like strangers, you're fucking corny. That's so stupid. I did that when I was four.

Speaker 1

Yeah. It's kind of like loser behavior, you know what I mean. It's kind of like it's my least favorite sense of humor, which is you know what I mean, I hate or horror horror, horror humor. Like some some people on Twitter get corny and they get her with their jokes, and I'm just you know what I'm saying, like easy jokes, like a stupid shit like oh we kissed and it's funny, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

It's not or more like shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, fuck.

Speaker 1

Exactly that four times. Guys. We're so excited for this weekend's Culture Awards. As you can see, we are in dropped in rare form, ready to host. We're hosting last culture we can host.

Speaker 2

That's not easy humor, no.

Speaker 1

As high concept as you can get. And there's more of that coming this weekend. See you there, see you there. And maybe to do our song that we go out with, which we go out with a song every week. We should practice for the opening number. Remember you have to all get off book seven days and sevens the world run, Happy World one. Yeah, see there, see you said.

Speaker 2

It'll be nice to remember

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