Look, man, oh, I see you? Why why? And look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, let ding dong loss culture Esta's calling. Wow. That had so much power and presence in it that our guests recoiled. I don't think it had any more or less amplification wattage than in the past. You want to talk about wattage? Wat did I do? Honey? I get the Stallion? Speaking of wattage, Megan de Stallion, I'm obsessed you only recently. I've been telling you for a while now for a minute, like,
you've got to get into Megan. You know how I am. You know how I am, You know how I get. You know how I receive information when people tell me I have to do something. But that's I'm very hesitant. We're telling you this because we know you'd love it. And look lo and behold and low and behold. I'm actually really obsessed. And the reason I'm obsessed with Megan the Stallion is for two reasons. One, now we can say hot girls, I'm everyone saying I like saying that.
That's something I like to say. And also, as I was consuming the media and I do have some media that I want to play media I have those song hot Girl, buy Megan the Stallion, and I'm going to play it and then I want to discuss what we here? Are we ready? Can can I wrap along? Uh? No, No, you have to let the artist, As Sudi says, Sudi Green often tells me when I'm singing along with the radio, she'll reach over hold my forearm and she'll say, let her, let her, So why don't you let her? Wait? It's
it's actually rule of culture number seventies seven. Let her. Yeah. Honestly, if there's a singer on the radio and she's doing her thing, let her. Let her. Okay, gays let her alright. So this is just a little piece that I really enjoyed. Media here we go by media artist. Great, So let's just go through what we have. The words are all the hot girls make it pop hop hop, bad bitches with the bag say I got yeah pi and talking about no money, tell him bad bad bad, and if
you see a man hotell ha ha ha ha. Now here's my thesis about this. I wrote this. I think I wrote this because only me would rhyme bye bye bye with ha ha ha and ha ha ha would end the phrase. And also this just sounds like me. I don't know if my mad ho say ha ha ha no no, no, no, no no. The text is bad. Bitches with the bags say yeah yeah, an talk about no money, tell him bah bah bad. And if you see a mad ho tell ha ha ha. You only you would write this and not a year old rapper
from Houston. Who um, you know I'm not taking anything. This is not erased, This is not this is not what you're trying to make it. This is additive. You're we're adding to Megan the Stallion's narrative by saying that she she spits Matt Rodders rhymes. All I'm saying is I feel a kindred spirit with her. Absolutely very similar. Later on in the song she she says, bad attitude, but I'm cute so he called me bay. I like that. She says she has a bad attitude. You still, I
think you still need to know. I showed you. I showed you did the girl Freak music video. What did you think? Amazing? I think she's incredible in a start. I think that I think she has Cardi B powers. I think she's potential. I think she's I think she's a different breed. Well yeah, I'm not saying they're the same, but I'm saying, um, you you haven't listened to cash
It yet, Oh my god. Cash It's because what I do is whenever I get obsessed with someone, I listened to one song approximately fifty times, and then I'm ready to move on to even one other song of that. It's so great. She does um she she she just she starts with the whole chorus is like a sixteen line thing or a thing where she's like, it starts with them. I can be fuck with No, you get touched this eight like she she just keeps doing like verse verse verse huns so so like sexual and powerful.
So I live. And but what I mean when I say it has card to be potential is when I heard Bode Yellow, I was like, this will be huge. And when I heard Heart Girl, Am I really late on this? Not? Really? No? She so I So I didn't find out about I didn't find about about Megan Stanleing until like March, I would say when Sam J at work was like, but when you would love Magany Stalleing, I was like, oh who is she? And she goes,
um you would love her? To listen to big old freak, and I was like, what a silly, silly title, and actually, oh, I want to share this. This is kind of a weird, weird, gross story, but I'm gonna share it, okay, babe. I mean, look, so the week of the week of Memorial Day, Um, there's this fun little barbecue happening in Prospect Heights, UM with one and dres and inviting a bunch of people over.
And then I had just gotten into Meghan's most recent album, recent release, Fever Yes this song on it called cash It, as I mentioned you mentioned that earlier, and I was trying to go off book just for like. I was like, this is gonna be a big song on this summer.
It's important too. And I was just like walking out of the Prospect Park f train stop, the seventh stop on the train, and I was just like lip sinking, like like trying like getting into the attitude of the song and just like getting into the bars and the fantasist say, and then who should walk buy me and stop me on the street. Then Miss Kate McKinnon and she was like, what are you doing? And I was like, oh my god, I was listening to this song called
cash It by megany Stallion. And then Kate's like, tell me everything about her? And I tell her. I go, she's this college student um in Houston. She's twenty four years old. She's amazing, she is incredible and this is and I told Kate. I was like, she's going to be a big deal this summer. And she was like, okay, how girl Summer? And she was like, how often do you listen to Wrap? I go very often? And then and if that was Kate's reaction, goes wow, she goes, Wow,
Megan the Stallion, I'll remember her. So you know how girl Summer kicked off in that very moment. You're a hip hop queen. I'm a hip hop queen and I actually respect I respect that and I see that because you know, I like to write my own bars, you know I do. You know I write some nasty WRAP lyrics. And that's actually a secret about me, that's a secret about you. The reason I bring up the barbecue is
because Kate was going to this barbecue. Well that's great, um, and so we were both on the reader to this barbecue. But Kate happened to see me on the streets. Wow, just just not silently feeling your fantasy, feeling your megan the staging fans. Absolutely, but so yes, I know that you love to write bars. You're very good at rutting bars. I love the bars you right. In fact, there's there's bars on the internet if you search, if you search,
not me rapping, but comedy. It's really important for white men to comedy rap. It's actually real culture. At number ten, it's really important for white men to comedy rap. Now, I really really want to get into this discussion, any discussion. Really. He talked about feeling in the fantasy. This guest has felt the fantasy. Can I tell you something. It's very rare when you meet someone and you immediately feel that
it was an immediate feeling of the fantasy. Can I say, we are on this person this guests podcast treks in the city, and we didn't know this guest prior. We did not know this, but it was an immediate family Well I didn't know, Yes, I had. I had seen her on TV. Oh come on, come on, come on on, Valley fish look on Valley Fish down. Her best friend's name is County. I love that um and she think she's incredible. She has the special coming out on Amazon.
It's called My Mom as a Human and so am I out Auguste and I cannot wait to see it and I just love her so much. Oh. She also hosts the Mazel Boys podcast um recaps Miss Mazel. They'll be back for season three one. Season three airs. Oh. Season three of Miss Mazel, I just can't wait. I just can't wait. There were so many there were so many amazing twists and turns in the second season. And I actually am excited to talk Mazel with our guests.
I'm we're going to talk culture with our guests, and at this time I'm going to stop referring to them as our guest, and I'm going to actually just say what their name is in unison with my bitch Bowen Yang. And this is the time when you please welcome to the pod. Last culture ristas Alice Waterland and I'm good, Okay, we're getting. We're getting. Now tell me why you tell
me to mind for you? Was because when you guys talking about Megan Stallion being the song of the summer, I remember when the song Countdown came out, and that was the first time in my life speaking culture that I ever somebody goes like that's going to be the song of the summer. And I didn't even think about
like there being a song every summer. And I was like, I don't know where I was in my fucking life, but I was like, oh my god, that's right, Like there'll be a song that'll get played over and over again. And it was for me anyway, it was Countdown. Yeah, I would agree there was a collective moment um, you know, and because I think they came out like that actually came out like was it mid to the end of the summer summer? But then it came in and it
was like the hot song. Yes, oh, I remember Brooklyn was on fire when that song came out. Were you living in New York you were? I remember I was on the train at Coney Island when I first listened to that song. Wow. Where yeah, And where else would you rather be than Coney Island? When Beyonce comes on and now you go to Coney Island and the song that you pick out is XO because she famously did
the music the music video. You know, Beyonce said at the time when Countdown came out, actually is on record as saying the hipsters love Countdown. Oh, I love her so much for understanding yeah, or she goes and she went like they recorded it and then she was like, I don't know how the song will do, but I think the hipsters will love. I think you predicted that the hipsters were count on as a long life. But it's universal. It's not just like a hipster niche thing.
It's like everyone loves that song. It's just that it's not like the typical danceable, you know, rinse and repeat kind of thing. It's got levels and stuff, so it's really theatrical. People like that. People love a song. It's the kind of story to tell absolutely about a woman who's so in love in the summer ways intends in old these ways amounts would you consider yourself a Beyonce
fan slash like even stand Oh yeah for sure. But it's almost like the kind of thing where it's a go without saying, I'm not the kind of I'm not I'm not in the bee hive, I'm not thirteen, like I don't, I don't, you know, worry about her how she's doing, and then go about on social media to make sure like that's but when I first started dating my boyfriend Garrett Lang, Um, he's a big player and he's a bass player in l A. Nobody knows him. I actually he is on Twitter. He will not tell
me what his handle is. Oh my god. So he uh, like I were I was like, so we're just getting to know each other, but like I want you to understand that. I am like if you're somebody. And this was before Lemonade, so it was like you gotta get like you have to understand that, like Beyonce is not something that we can like is it good? Is it
not good? Like there's no like going back and forth, like if you have an opinion on Beyonce, that's like besides just like yeah, she's obviously the greatest artist of all time, Like you know, of our time. You need to keep it to yourself, don't don't just don't talk about it, right, And actually it's something that we're an upbridge. We're not going to cross and I'll find out, but we'll just leave it alone because I feel like this
is going somewhere. You are still dating him now, so then we can say he's either mouth shut or we watched the home Coming together giving us came up with is foggy monocle to describe a British man who like is watching Beyonce Is Homecoming and is so like he's so horny from watching it that he's like, oh yeah, usher, you know, and then his mole and now it's a steam punk strip club in Portland. Actually we have to add that to the cultural canon. Theogy monocle, the foggy monacle. Yeah,
that's actually huge. A bitch I'm going to say from now on, he fogged up my monocle. Now maybe it could be a still like an eatery Matt Rogers in Matt Rogers Rogers. I have no problem putting that in my part. Absolutely. You know that Matt Rogers Park. It's well it's actually Matt Rogers theme Park in the Parks it's called Matt Rogers theme Park. Because here's the thing. Like it's so, I guess somebody head of Parks is
in like in like succession. Well yeah, Bowen Yang is going to actually make a lot of decisions for my parts. Is sort of like the Gail King of Matt Rodd And I'm sort of insulting, No, it's not, because I'm the Gail King for your stuff. So we exist in a world where we exist in a world where I'm open my own world. So I'm open and my rold In Bowen is my Gail, and Bowen is Oprah and his rold and I'm I have no plans on opening a world though. You have to understand. You have to
understand this. Can I just say one thing and it's actually a real culture. You have to be the opera of your own life. And that's actually a real culture. Number one and two. You have to be the opera of your own life. You must. It's not an negotiable thing. I mean, you can try anything else, but eventually you're going to get into enough pain internally that you have to be your own open, access your own power because
it's their hunt. So wait, just back to what you were saying, like, so it has to be the Matt Rogerstein Park because I'm I have my eyes on resort. I'm not just trying to open up an amusement park. I'm I'm want to resource sandals. You understand, So, yeah, you get it signifies that you understand? Do we do we specify the geographic location of Matt Rodgers Theme Park Long Island? Well, actually it is Long Island. Even the thing is there's a part of the park that is
Long Island. There's an area that's Long Island and you can get on the Fire Island. Frey, it's a really good attraction. What if what if there was no what if it was? Well, no, what if you did instead of Soren? But it was it was like a Long Island experience. Absolutely, that's amazing. Have you spent any time on the island, yes, And that you could have a special like a quiet car, yeah, experience. It's like really immersive.
Maybe it's like a deprivation yeah, yeah that. And also it's like, wait, I have a really good idea, Actually have a really good idea. Can I run this by you guys? Actually you're a part of the park now too. Okay, you actually make executive decisions about the park now. I'm only hiring like people who work at the stands. No, this is actually something I still from Dolly Dolly would
but we won't do it here. But I did hear that at Dollywood all the people that work at the concessions are all like at least ninety and so they're giving you your change back and it's like why why Because they're all dollars paying in the world to be like to be like okay, one please, and they're like okay, listeners, I'm just shaking it. I actually have to say. That's different from I don't want to do that at your part. So I do have experience in like park ideas, but
I don't. Can I just say, right, here's the thing, well not yet, not yet right now, you're CEO, you go with money. Okay, that's actually operations officer. It's cool. Can I just say who works on my part? Everyone that works on my part is either a gay teen or their friend Amanda. It's all teens and they're all either gays that are like pretty gay or or their friend Amanda. Yeah. Do the Amanda's have to have them have to be tethered to the to the gay team
who's Yeah, they have to be supportive and tethered. You have to be hired in tandem. Yeah, So basically like jobs that one person could do. Yeah, it's like and Amanda's do it together of course. So like if you were to go by different it's the safety issue, especially with the ride exactly, you don't we don't run the ride if just Amanda's there, her friend is there, it's not the same, but the friend can be named anything.
The friend can be named anything, but actually the friends this is so sad, But the gays in my park only have roughly between one and four names. Chris, Ryan, Tyler, and Matt All name that. It's so sad. What is roughly between one and four? So it is a whites only situation? No? No, no, no, no, no no no, it's not. I can't. I can't address enough now. And also there's someone who's on the board. His name is Bowen Yang and he is the of color and he
in the yeah and colorful decision. He brings culture. I love it. Would you like to design a ride for my part? I would seriously love it. I've thought about it. Okay, Okay, I've thought about it. Okay, this is just a wild pitch, you know, and just doing stuff at the wall. Um, it's um, you know how like when you're in waterslide. He sucks because there's band aids. What is the ride? It's not water, it's just band aids. Wow, siding on band aids. I don't you know what. And I'm going
to wipe that clean because I don't like it. For your part, I'm actually think of it for another part. Part what part, that's the that's the I'm sorry land sorry. Yeah, it's an apology part. Then he has to make when you go in the first ten minutes or just apology, it's just him kind of being like, I'm sorry, guys. He pays you to get in right, Yeah, because at first you have to take a slow pass. Yeah. Because also what they do in that park is they put they put a tuxedo on you and they make you
look really dapper. And then after you apologize, you take you take all that that clothes off. You put on a gray distressed shirt. He sit on a stool and that's like an image change. He's changed because sitting on a stool now and he's not wearing a blazer. So can I ask you a question if you're to take your essence and make it into a vacation destination, Yeah, I can. That's a good way to get to know someone. I think that like, um, it's probably like, um, yeah,
it would be some kind of a theme park. I would structure it around like a like a shopping adventure over you know, but then an action sequence, like if there was a way to make like an action comedy, but that was also clueless, you know, like, um, she's that girl, the type of thing where we've got for the pretty woman ride. But it's like, you know, um, I love action movies, so I want to be in
an action movie so fucking bad. So I'm all about like bows and arrows and stuff like that, and you know, really intense agility, like I like, uh, I like those actual like obstacle courses. Yeah, really like to get physical. But I like looking really good at the same time. So it's like that's the whole thing. It's like get dressed up as a different thing. But the shopping experience is the big Well, this actually is a feature. Have you ever thought of writing just the girls think they're
going shopping and it becomes action film. M that's great, that's great. I think we should I think I think we should a pin in that then into the screen like, well I broke it. She just sally destroyed the studio. I'm not in the sockets. That bitch is fried. Now another one another a pile of danger for that. We had to take out so much insurance. Yeah, well this thing is here's the deal. You also hosted Forever Dog podcast. I do so, I know, do you deal with hot
producers in your studio. Yes, we have hot producers and it's great. It's like because they have personality. One of them is new and she's like so hot and she's so not into any of the and I'm like, oh, that's perfect because like you're like a hot girl. You're having a hot girl summer. She's on the fine all the time. She doesn't care what we're doing. That funny and she's like, what mad that we're talking to her? You know her name? Can't remember I but Chloe, right,
it probably Clothe. I'd like to yes. But here's the thing. I was so happy, honestly that I got here, and I was like, please, God, don't let it be a somebody's apartment. Do you know what I mean? You do his podcast sometimes at somebody's apartment. Not that I wouldn't want to be in one of your spaces. It's just like, no, you wouldn't want to be in my space. What if it's it smells like weed? And yeah, what if it's like a UCB guy's apartment. Guys, but you know what,
but I know what you said. I know what you're saying. Actually, speaking of UCB guys have you been watching the debates? Have you been keeping up with the presidential race? Yeah, so you have to listen to James Donman has a podcast. Oh my god. I actually I'm a huge fan, and I hear my Elizabeth Warren episode. No, I haven't listened
to that. I did Elizabeth Warren and we did. He was like, you'll probably like, you know, thirty minutes or whatever, and I was like, great, great, great, it was an hour fifty year of me as Elizabeth Warren and weren't talking to Bernie Sanders. End the list. I was like, can we please stop this? Want or Ben Shapiro would
be great. I would go on as Andry Yang. Probably I want to go back really quick because we did put it in it um the movie idea where they go shopping and shopping trip, right, shopping trip, and I think it can be called trap shopping trip. It's the lit mall. It has to start an outlet mall. You know, this is the Labor Day weekend sale, right, so it's going to get crazy either way, you know. But then it gets really crazy because there's a heist in the
outlet mall. Maybe there's like a nuclear site underneath it. Yes, I love that because you know what, you can get a bunch of scenes in the factory where they make the clothes. Yeah, because the factory outlet, and that's the roles that we play. We're the factory for people. Love it. Yeah, we're downstairs there. Actually quite nefarious. Let's let's set up a meaning to break the story on this. I really want to get this going. Um I have time, Yeah,
so I think it's probably have time Wednesday. Um. Wed I think who do you think should be in at you? Veronica? Me Veronica? Yeah, Megan the Stallion? Okay, no, I like that? Um Bowen? Yeah, Tyler and Amanda and Chloe and I would love and appear from a Christine Baranski. Oh yeah, I know Christine Baranski should play. I think she should play the voice that comes over the loudspeakers that says it's time to evacuate them all. Yes, I think that
should be her role. It's like the end of the very end, it's her all along or something of that, and she turns out and she's like, wow, I love that. So did you see that movie Searching with This? Did I see that? With you? No? I didn't see it because I was too afraid So what I do is that whenever I don't want to see a movie but I'm interested, I'll just look it up on spoiler websites and so I'll have a vocabulary for the film something
about me. Spoiler alert for Searching. If you haven't seen Searching, you can hit the fifteen a head button right now. Turns out Debra Messing is the villain. But you know, and this would be very Debra Messing of Christine Brownski in this movie. There's the most disturbing part of that movie is there's this moment where so John Show has this brother, um Don Show, we should say a star and hot a star and hot John has a brother. So the story is like John's daughter goes missing. I'm
going to look at this a movie UPO. This is I have to talk about this because I can't believe this happened, and I still have been thinking about it to this day. Um John has a brother. As there's his brother character was very close with, and then that's the daughter is close with two. And then for a second you think that there's this like incest storyline where the where the daughter is fucking the uncle and you're like, and then as the on inst Everyone was just like, wait,
what how long do I let that? Believe? For like five to ten minutes? And it's like too much time to sit with and be like no, no, no, no no. I would say five to ten minutes is too long to let incests sit in the air. That's actually that about lest day night set. Yes, so they said, they said, hey, five to ten minutes is actually too long to let incests sit in there. Five sitting in there, and they only they only gave you a six minutes set. Exactly.
That was you on Conan kept We saw you kept waving the light away and you were like, I have to do and they were like, but it's just sitting here, you know what I mean, it's not going anywhere. It's just sitting. This material doesn't really go anywhere, you know it does? It does give you indigestion. How do you heighten What are you going to do to heighten him? Can I say one thing about this shopping trip thing that I really like is do you think that they win in the end, the girls or do you think
that that it ends in a shocking way? Well, what's most like real life? I mean they come away having changed, But do they really win or do they realize the pieces they wanted all along we're in their closet already. That's actually the name saying yeah, So it's I think it could be two things. I think they could survive and live the experience survive, but they actually don't leave with anything from them all. So their initial goal of getting things from the mall they did not achieve, but
they do live. And in a way, not getting anything from the mall was winning because they already have what they needed in the I actually have a story pitch on this. So they go they go shopping at this liam all. They want to buy all this new stuff. It was a big sale. The nuclear threat they find out, Um, I think the nuclear threat is the big central conflict and that the girls have to dismantle this nuclear bomb.
You find out the person you planted the nuclear bomb is Marie Condo because she wants to destroy every mall in America. She doesn't want people to buy ship anymore. But then the girls not only dismantle the bomb, but
they convinced Marie Condo to just come out. They could just come out from the dark side and join their cause, which is like malls are good malls are important, Marie Condo, what they've learned is and then what the girls learn is like sort of a balanced morality where it's like we can shop for new things, but not too much. We can't have this crazy consumerism that we that blinds us. And then we can also let go of the things that we don't need anymore. And Marie Condo also meets
them in the middle. So okay, no, it's please please. If it's Marie Condo is the arbiter of like she's the you know, behind the scenes villain. I think maybe it's more she has the nuclear codes to this site, because remember when in Bride'smaids, Melissa McCarthy was like, all the nuclear So I think that the nuclear bomb is already there. She just has the codes. She gets the codes, and then that's you know. And so but here's what
I really want. I don't want it to be for girls who have nothing to do with the government or espionage. One of them to be a spy and that's how they got involved. Do you think that maybe the movies where it's like girls a little bit of rub you. So here's what I think, and tell me, tell me
what you think about this. I think that it's I've always wanted to be in a movie where this happened, or in a life situation where this happens, Like ship goes down and one of your friends all of a sudden whips out like a weapon that they have licensed, and they're able to monitor the situation, and then in that moment, it's revealed to all the friends who thought they knew this person that they actually were c I
A seven fantastic. So I think that stuff is really hard to just justify, though you know what I'm saying, you can anything with an imagination. Actually, Okay, it's actually an imagination problem. It's actually coming up against that. I'm really worried about you. Yeah, it's actually an imagination issue that you have. So I think that it's four girls and then truly needs you to get help. You need to seek treatment. You need to get help. Listen to
seek treatment Wednesdays and Friday. Just help too with your imagination. Is that like it's like a child psychiatrist. Honestly, well, I know a lot of people would child psychiatrists. It's a problem. I'm not apologize. I can't afford her an adult their best a psychiatry. Do you think this works? Like four girls going out to them all ship goes down one of them all of a sudden whips out this knowledge. Maybe in a flashback that takes like five minutes,
we see their history. Wait, can I tell you something? You can tell us anything. Got three tickets to see the Share Show because my father loves Share. Is that why you didn't go? That's why I didn't go because of the blackout. And I go up to the Today to the Today Takes guy and I go, uh, yeah, last name is Yang and he like squirrels down his iPad. I see the name Helena York. She was supposed to
go there to And I text her. I was like, I'm supposed to be at the Share Show with you, and she goes, really I heard my She goes, my friend plays Sonny and he says that they might have to cancel the show because of this blackout. Because first of all, so I was walking from Harold Square to the theater. The Neil Simon Theater had to cut through Time Square, and then there was just like a billion firetrucks everywhere. I didn't know what was happening. A crazy
amount of people even for time square. I was like, something's going on, something's wrong. And then we got to the theater and then Helene is like, there's a blackout happening. I was like, what anyway, not that interesting story. Here's the thing. My dad actually texted me. He said, Bowen is taking his parents to see the Share show. And I said, yes, I know. And then that I said's dad share love Share against all odds anyway? But I
missed out. Probably would there probably would have been like a lot of gay moments that like he would have been like, I don't know about that. I don't know anyway, I don't know. Share is gay, and look, the Share is gay culture. And the fact that your dad is embracing Share, to me means that that there's an opening, there's a there's a door that's open there, and it's Share Open Share. I think. I think once they once Taylor swifts, Almo comes out, he's going to come out
of the close. What's your thoughts on because you have you have takes. That's what I love about Alice. You have fucking takes. What's your ship with Taylor? Taylor? Well, again, a lot of times I feel like society has this thing where we'll pick like one straggly white woman to be like, you're the voice of all women now, and they're always too young, right, or they're always without experience in the spotlight. And then there's saying a bunch of bullshit.
It doesn't make any you know, And it's just like, don't, well, don't listen to her about everything but the reason that she But then she feels now she feels very entitled to her position in the spotlight, and she's not entitled to her position in the spotlight. She's extremely you know, she's got a lot of hits, but she's basic. And it's just, you know, I I guess my my whole thing is like I thought, I want every white woman in Hollywood to get better at taking criticism and better
at absorbing the backlashes that they create. It's just like, this shouldn't be hard. It should be part of your practice. Can I tell you who's really good at it? Felicity Huffman her apology after the whole fucking like the whole college fiasco, I was like, she still is very like she's not she's very culpable of wrong doing. But her apology, I was like, this is actually a very well worded apology.
I that like it was a very earnest, genuine like when you compare it to Ms Laughlin, absolutely well, yeah, I mean there's that, but also it's like, okay, that's kind of out doing trapeze in front of the courthouse. But I was like, oh, you've you've like my personal needle has been moved a little bit, My little needle has moved, so like you know, I'm like, okay, I
actually kind of understand Felicity a little bit more. Okay, So in uh in our movie like comeback role, yeah, I would say I think she actually should play one of the girls. I think she should play two. Yeah, literally us and Felicity Huffman and no one, no one acknowledges that she is not twenty two. Just understood that Rachel dol is all of age she can identify, and I want young people to get offended about it. No one see this. People will leave our movie talking. Yeah,
they will live in our movie talking and arguing. They'll be leaving early talking. I want to figure out for talking up. If you're at the arc light, that's what's gonna happen. If you're the arc light, then we're talking. I want to be able to figure out the most efficient way to offend young people quote end quote, like, what would that look like to offend the youth? Like?
What does what does that mean? You can I see how you can offend old people by being like old people are so stupid young people, you're like the class. That class just calling young people stupid not gonna work. I'm saying you have to be like young people. I'll offend young people right now. Your fucking taste in mainstream music? Is Billy the number one superstar right now? To me, it's a idea. It's it's slow and dead. But we
like Billy. You don't speak for me. I'll put a pin in you right now, put a pin in that. I'll put a pin in you as I live and breathe, and you won't. Yeah, I don't like Billy, and I don't know what half of this ship is. So it's like I can't really weigh in. But every time I do, hear a snippet or a clip it of like radio right now? But is it is it? Is it young people's fault that radio sucks? I don't think I would say it's it's Can I give anemic response to this.
I think the sort of like hopelessness of the world right now has us dead, and I think that we are emotionally dead. So when Katie Perry comes out with Sorry the fucking Pop of the Summer, which is never really over for me, which this I'm sorry but fool across from me, which is you, Bowen says you quote
doesn't really get never really over. It's like to me, it's like we were given an opportunity to like emotionally live out loud with a pop song and we said, actually, no, we want to keep Billie Eilish on top of the charts. And I'm sorry, but what is it? Yeah, Billie Eilish, Yeah, what is it? Can you explain it to me? Can anyone? Um, It's just it's like pure, It's like it's production first,
it's production and forward. It's like who needs sure. But it's like I've talked to I've talked to you about this, this, that, that, that whole BuzzFeed thing about how niche pop is like the only like pop that like resembles like Katy Perry, Kesha, Gaga, Rihanna back then Rihanna. Like it's like it's now it's like the Robin's, the car Jepson's, like the Betty Who's, the Kimpetrisses. It's like, are you guys at home? I just want to know quick question taking fucking notes? Yeah,
takes fucking notes. That doesn't someone taking notes taking notes? But it's like just so word like mo freight pastic saying that the Robin concert was one of the first time she's ever been able to go to the bathroom unobstructed, and that the line for the men's bathroom is longer. It's like it's it's four gay mets. I mean I was listening to you know, Betty Who. No, That's why I said, like, Robin love it. What was the other one? You said, Kimpetris No, what was the second one? After all?
Love Robin love Carl J And I was like Betty Who. So here's the thing with Betty Who. Betty Who is like so fucking fun and such a fun pop star, but she's niche, and I think she remains niche because if you really listen to her lyrics, did I talk to you about this or was I maybe I'm talking that's racist? No, Because I also was about to say it could have been Jared that I was talking, or he could have been Joel Fleishman from Northern Right might
have been talking. And that's actually a raiser. I know many more than one. Joel culture number six. I know many is not the only one. Yeah, Joel won't talk to me right now because I told them there's Lunne and his chart. We sometimes do Real Housewives astrology charts, and I had I had to actually break the news to Joel that there was lou and his chart and he has not DM And you're not what do you want outsize of New York? I don't. Okay, great, let
me say one thing. Let me make a point about Betty who, Betty who clearly has an army of game in putting our ship to there, because if you listen to her lyrics, it is like so weirdly unrequited love centric and so strangely like longing, and like it's so specifically lyrically like applicable to like the gay or queer
experience that it's like. But it's clearly like she does it with an intense love for that, and she has like her backup dancers, like licking her thighs in a way that I'm you're like, oh, those are gay man, Okay, I have to listen to you, and there's nary a non bob. I mean, it's it's an army of bob for you to say, what bitch that that these backup dancers are licking her thigh as the like brainchild of
a gay man. So if I don't know why that's because you think about this, some queer comes in let's call it Betty, who's creative director, says, Okay, you're gonna have to backup dancers and they're gonna come over during during this part, and this one's gonna get on his knees and lick your thigh, honey, and she's gonna say great. And then the amount of straight men that would get that sary. It's like the straight wouldn't get yeah, And also straight male backup tancer come over lick my thought.
You know that has to be gay man. Yeah, one to I'd be like, I'm fucking working right now, Like what are you doing that? Canceled, canceled, canceled Any straight
man trust can canceled, Stage four canceled. I think you you've over the course of this episode, Matt have really covered like the professional book ends for a gay man who in a young gay team will start working at Matt Rogers Theme Park, and then we'll move up the ladder to being Betty, Betty who's creative direct Yeah, well, what's going to happen is Betty who is actually going to come to the Matt Rogers Theme Park and she's gonna say, whatever is going on here, I want to
be reflected on stage when I go out there, and so someone will head forward and say, Hi, I'm the creative director of this park. Yes, she'll do Matt Tell every year. Actually it'll be Betty who Kelly Clarkson and the cast of Glee. That's that's Matt Chella. Awesome, amazing. Do you ever do you ever do that thing on Spotify at the end of the year where it says like, this is what you've been listening to all year? No, mine is humilia embarrassing. I don't need that. I don't
want to see that. Let me tell you you don't want to see that. I've been listening to a lot of Earth Gang. Now I just see you're No, I'm not. I'm friends with you. Joy Travis is what it is because he goes in like, what are you listening to you now? And I'm like outcast from Stanconia because I don't know any new music. That's it is. But it's like I listened to it because it's like the coolest thing that I can think of. You probably, yeah, he's
pretty cools. Also he is insanely good looking, and it's I was like, it's going to be hard to be friends with you, but then it wasn't because when you become friends with somebody and then it becomes like collegiate and familial. Well, the thing is, I find that you know, when you have genitals, they respond to stimuli, and then the thing is that does fade away story about genitals responding to stimuli. So I'm really, I'm working my way into becoming a prestige actress. Um really, and I want
to do action movie. That's my dream. I wanted to action movies. I work out constantly. I have I can lift, I can dead live one five. I'm really, I have a lot of muscles. My back is crazy and in both ways like it's muscular and it's sucked up. Um anyway, I have a ripped scoliosis, ripped bonus spurs and muscles. I'm so, I'm trying to do drama, and I keep auditioning for fucking Fear of the Walking Dead. They've made me like a million times they want me in the
fucking show for some reason. Never get it. But then I got this other drama that's coming out in CBS al Access. I got a guest star two episodes of this show called Interrogation, which is next You're coming out. Who's top line in that Alexander's scars Garde Peter star Peter stars, Guard David straysern Okay, Andre Rojo bubbles from the wire. Fuck, there's like three more ridiculous actors and I'm like, and also a night hit, right, And so the guy it's so I got in there, like, but
there's a nudity and simulated sex scene. Can you do it? And I was like, I was like, oh no. And then I was like wait a minute, like how intense. And then I read the scripture and I was like, yeah, you know what, I need the money. I have a mortgage. So I got the job and then I went out to do they filmed the Albuquerque. The guy that I'm playing off sit he is not somebody that I had heard of really, but he is an excellent actor. He's like a really He's like, but here's the crazy thing.
Drama actors just do drama acting. It's what the that is wild? Isn't that wild? They just go in there and I'm like, they're really doing this, like it's the thing to do. Was were they fun? I mean like a person is, you know, like like it wasn't like we were like cutting up. I tried a hundred times to make him laugh, and it would be like thirty percent of the time he'd get it and be like ha ha. The rest of the time he'd be like I'm in the mood, you know, or whatever, and I
was like, this is so crazy and weird. Like one of the scenes that we had to do was he was making breakfast for me, and for some reason, it was shot really well, like it's beautiful looking, but one of the director was like, I want the camera to pan up from the coffee being made, the toast is down, the eggs are getting flipped, and I come out and like I've got a T shirt on and nothing else and they hug him from the back or whatever, and then we have to have like an emotional scene meanwhile,
all this ship is going on. So it's like every time we'd come out, I'd be like, hey, it's okay, it's okay, and then it would be like toast pops up, you know, and I'm like dying because I'm like, this is a Rube Goldberg breakfast behind you right now, and I think it's the fucking funniest thing in the world. It was like ten people to be like coffee, okay, slip, turn them on, turn him on, boom go, and then like be dramatic, and he's in it. He's just like
doesn't break at all. And I'm like and I'm like listen, I think popping up, and I'm just like, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened. It did a sex scene talk about that and it was hot. I was like, oh, actually this is awesome. I'm he's hot, but I was like it was just like your body is like doing the sex motions and it's a new person, so there's a novelty factor and I was like, let's go again.
Like I was having the time of my life. I don't I need to figure out for myself if I but this is so interesting, that interesting that you're on this side of this. This debate is that some people are like sex scenes are so impersonal, they're so bad, they're so humiliating. But then there's the other side of it where it's just like, no, it's hot and I
I feel like I'm having sex with this person. So you're you're in that camp, right, It's like, yeah, and this is like the second time I've done I didn't like an indie thing where it didn't get really is but like I did a make out scene with a guy who again another guy who was very attractive, but I wasn't like in Damn, but it was like vance n, but you trick your brain into thinking. We talked about which was like any acting, like you're the other thing.
I was telling my boyfriend about this, and I was like, the crazy thing about sex acting is it like when you're delivering a line in a certain way, you wanted to be real to the character and real to the story and also like seem genuine, seem natural. All this ship it's drama, But with sex there's like two ways of being and you're also already acting when you're having
normal sex, right, Like everybody at it, Okay, fascinating. I've forget who it was that was quoted this, but I was reading some interview with some actress and she was like, well, in the sex scene, like I'm having sex as the character, I'm not having sex as me. And I'm like, now, explain that, Like I wonder if she's like aggressive sexually as the character or like she's physically doing things that she wouldn't do. That to me is fascinating. Well, I would be too in my head if I said something
like I'm having sex as a character. Um, that's what
I say during normal sex as well. The two ways of having sex that you're talking about or are either you are loving it or it's terrible, Like is that is it like super binary like that, like maybe like oh yeah, no, I mean I'm I'm just saying like if you're into it, like yeah, you can be having like a lack less sex, but there's a way of being like, um, you know, I'm I'm it's so hot, I'm so into it, and then we're so in love or it's like animalistic or whatever and we'd like, hey,
it's hate. I feel like there's like maybe those directions. But it was just like, oh, this is easy. And we had all these scenes we were making out, and I was like, was so worried that it was going to be affected and weird, and then it wasn't at all, because I'm like, yeah, when you're fucking in someone's face like this, it's very easy to be subtle. Yeah, it's not hard. I've never had there's no scene where you're like obvious are supposed to do. I've never had a
makeut scene with a man on camera. I don't know. I've had my I've had, I've been I've done one sex scene on camera and no one will ever see it. And it was with Joek and Booster right where he did he gave me oral sex. Oh yeah. And I was like this, remember Joel, I remember remember Joel, Joel um I was remember Joel when I was like this, Oh that's what I said. Oh this ride with the commercial, Well have you saying, oh da dad, oh dad, that's me during sex, Dad dad Dad. It's just so distracting,
it's so sad. Wait, hold on, do you have to ask the goddamn one one last thing? I want to last. One last thing is drama harder than acting to you, It's drama. Acting drama harder than it's trama harder than acting. Is drama harder than acting? To write that down, you am, I like, oh, dad, Dad, is drama harder than comedy? It's drama? Okay? Is drama hamma harder than comedy? Yes, answer this, It's so much easier. I don't you believe that,
one hondo pe It's easier. Absolutely. I've seen actors who are award fucking Oscar winning drama actors try to do a comedy and absolutely cannot do it. On the other way, the success rate very high because everyone I think people have the assumption that it's easier to do comedy because it's like, you know, yuck, yuck yuck, but it's like and also so I think because of that public perception,
like there um sort of expectations are lower. And when a comedian comes along and like is able to sit on camera and say where it's like a person, they're like wow around and never before seen Kristen Wigg can actually talk in her normal voice, and it's like meanwhile, like when drama actors come try to do comedy, I mean you probably know from working at this so no, and also like us all from working with people that once they get a comedic script in their hand, they're like, okay, Um,
if you don't have your own comedic timing and voice in real life, why would you suddenly have that. We all have our real life in real life though, so we can all, but like if you can't, if you don't have the funny bone, you know, and like people are like loose with it. And that's the other thing, Like it's very loose. You have to trust yourself. You have to have that. I don't think mentality, you don't think up right citizens brigade and wait, I just wanted
to put it on it any other way. iOS doesn't work before we wait, before we asked the question, and then do I don't think so, honey. I have to say one thing about before I brought the presidential debates. And I brought that up because Eric Swalwell, who's now dropped out of the race, reminds me of a UCB guy who I would have seen executed. Second, I'll be fine, and especially when he said, oh my god, he said
like a joke. And then the first presidential debate, I remember it was we're breaking up with Russia and making up with and He said it with the kind of look in his eyes where I was like, you thought that was so funny. I was like, I took to a one with you, like a canned joke that you just I took to all one with Eric Swallwell. And he dropped out of that class after the second week. It was too hard. It gets hard when it gut
gets hard. Anyway, any ask the question, which is, Alice, what was the culture that made you say culture is for me the formative culture. Whether it was a book, a movie, a play, a a TV show, a neighborhood you grew up in. But if it was Cardi B's baby and it was that, there was that reason and you didn't have culture before. I mean for a lot of people, I feel like it is definitely for culture herself.
Absolutely cultures. Culture is well. When I was god Damn born and named so I guess I'm thinking of like when I was little and my mom was like very feminist, Like it was like growing up in a Christian household where you, you know, how you can only listen to Christian Rocke and my mom was like the feminist version of that. She was like, no, only John Army training, you know, or like only Tracy Chapman, like the only music we're listening to is Katie Lange today, Jonny Mitchell
or whatever. So I so there wasn't a resistance to like that type of like like I was like, oh, I want to have fun, you know. So for me it was like my mom was furious, but it was Barbie. I was like Barbie's culture, and I really talked about Barbie talked, talked just like you know, and people didn't get this. It's not about how her. It's not a human being, right, It's not like I'm like, oh, I need to look like Barbie. Are you start kidding me?
Barbie needs to look like Barbie so she can fit in all these Barbie outs right exactly and into her weird car. Yeah. And the thing the thing about Barbie is she's also you know, she has so many friends. Ye that it's also like you have to understand it's never about her, It's about the larger community of Barbies. Because the way you do Barbie is you buy about a hundred and how they all have different outfits. And then it's more like it's less like do you know
what I'm saying. It's like it's about it's about creating a community of Barbies, and that's the positive less. So you want to have a body positive barbie, and you want girls to be for some reason looking at a body positive Fine, that's great, do it, but do it the best. They do it. The barbie have all the fucking clothes, all the outfits, sexy, astronaut, all this ship. Because they don't do it there. They're like, here's your new doll. And it's like good, it's got a green shirt.
Like I love it, doll. I would play barbies, what would you do? So I would like set them up in uh, Like they worked in a store together, and I would set up I was an only child, so like I had a whole this was my life. They would like sit in a store and then work the day. They'd work all day and then they would go and they would go home and then they would like go home after work and like have dinner. They lived together. Yeah, there was like yeah they would and they would talk
about like you know, boys and whatever. I was a kid, but I didn't understand, like what why people talked about boys. I would like go through the motions. I used to do this very similar. I used to do that as well, but I would I would create block, I would put my blocks together and I would play with power Rangers and then they would have a conversation with each other.
But the way that I played barbies was with my sister because she was the one that had the barbies, so I would of course co opt that and we would take all the barbies, put them on the bed and we would play Titanic with the barbies so that one by one they would die by being thrown off the bed, which was of course the Titanic. And the one that always lived was the one that was wearing this like gorgeous little blue dress that was the same color as the heart of the ocean, and she was
always the rose genius if now how would so? Likewise, my sister was the one we had the dolls. We had the star of the pack was Aladdin, Laddin doll. She was a little bit bigger actually, and he was truly so fucking hot. Yeah. And but then we had a regular We had a regular Barbies and it was barbiing and Aladdin. We get into fights because Barbie and a ladd and we're having an affair. Barbie was like, you need to tell Jasmine about us, You're like, you
need to leave Jasmine. For me, it was like, truly, my sister was this white bitch was coming along. Yes, she said you have to leave her, you have to leave her. And then I feel like I played that same game. I remember like my sister like taking Barbie's hand in, taking her hand up and slapping Aladdin across the faith. It was like the woman was right in this situation. White bitch narrative, white bitch honestly narrative. Yeah, I identify and I hate it, honestly. Wow, you let
a white bitch narrative play out in your play? Did you and I play the Did you and I play the Barbie Board Game? No? Oh my god. The Barbie Board Game is iconic where the goal was to be the queen, the queen of the prom and you would have and you you have, you had to queen of the problem, you had to takes place in the fifties and like mid century where the three things where you had to go steady with someone, you had to um like be class, you had to get a title and
get flapped, cool and get slapped. But it was this thing. It was like it was like it was a board game where you were feeling the fantasy of being Barbie in high school. And it was like truly like true problematic you can get. But it was like for a little gay boy playing that game, it's like you're you're trying on mommy's clothes. It's so beautiful and informative. Actually,
and we've never talked about Barbie on this. We've never spoken about Barbie, and we've can we all just say a few words about Barbie's automobiles that she has come on, because she actually rides dirty and several different kinds of things. She has a beautiful pink car, which is her, I think, her most famous mobile. And then I believe Barbie has even been known to get on a motorcycle. For sure.
Hot Rode was hot Rod Barbie, God Barbie. I love there is and I love that when Barbie does a thing, she becomes the like you know, like I am hot Rod Barbie or like Amie Culture. Yeah, yeah, like when I'm doing like it's like today, like right now, I'm coffee Alice, Yeah, coffee Alice, like and then later on I'll be sucking lunch Alice, lunchrast Alice. Right now has Barbie Oh my god, what's Barbie's podcasts? Got a pink Mike set up, and you know it's like sparkling sounds
and it's like welcome back today. My favorite shape is a circle. I guess she wouldn't be like welcome back because before it's a podcast. Well, what are Barbie's ads? Barbie's ads are casper cast dot com. Um, Barbie does quips. She's like, I sleep with my quip. It's her size and she's like the giant vibrating body pillow. She's like, honestly the best. This is the thing that Barbie comes out of town, a lot out of town, a lot this is gay is actually this is the thing about
Barbie is out of town. A lot of the kara absolutely remember they remember James Anderson SNL sketches, Britney Spears and Amy Pole are playing Barbie and Skipper, and then Chris tam would come on, It's Kenny and it just goes, I'm going to Malibu. Don't call me um. But Barbie is dragon. Though. Barbie is like putting on different hats and me like now I'm this, now I'm this name. It's it's truly beautiful. Barbie is actually the most important
drag figure of all times. Yes, I agree. Barbie started drag and Barbie showed us that you're all born niked and the rest of the d and when you get up in the morning and you put on your drag and you are both in drag. You learned that from Barbie, and that was why Barbie is important. Absolutely, relationship with Barbie now, I mean truly, but rear View Mirror, this is one of those. This is this is one of those. Is there gonna be a Barbie movie? Wasn't there going
to be? Yeah? I think that. I think it's happening. Really that was It was definitely on like so excited about that. Can you tell them my face? Um? I wanted to be like Glenn Close or something that would be really fun. Amy, one of the Amy's what's the Amy Palladino? Amy Searon Palladino finally hits the screen for the screen we never talked about Mazel? So shall we have a few words on Mazel? Well, I mean, you
guys you wanted to bring it up, so I'm not. No, I don't have anything now on the spot that's Mael. That actually is a new segment. It's called all right, Uh, I haven't watched Mazel. I like Masil, I watched Maziel. I'm not I'm not first to watching Maazel and make say there's a season for of course, I'm excited, but I like, I'm a team Joel. That's all I have to say. You know, when that last scene and this is going to be a spoiler for Mazel, very similar
to before our spoilers for Searching. You know, in the last scene, she said, Rachel, actually it's never Messing is the villain of Rachel brashan who I want on the pod I've been saying this. Um. She says, I want to be with someone who loves me, and then they intensely kiss. Cut to black. Wait, so my thing with Joel is just like if everybody's like Joels trash, Juels trash, and I'm like, great, maybe, So guess who else is trash? Fucking Mazel she sucks, has trash elements. Yeah, she's a
fucking sp alpha female character. She sucks. There's a lot going on. So they stay belong together. I think they might belong together. I love them together. And he's obviously the Mr. Big what's that actor's name, He's incredible and he yes, yes, and he came to came to the show when when Bras hosted, So good God. He's really hot. He's really hot. He's one of those secret hotties that you used that you look on television, you go okay, TV actor, and then then you look at in real
life and you're like, oh your genital's response. Oh, I thought it was just like me on set with when we did our sex scene. Oh, I think it's time for I don't think so honey. It's time for I don't think so honey. And if you're curious about what I don't think, so honey, is what I don't think, so honey is is we take one minute to rail against something in culture that we don't like. And if you'd like to see if this happen live, you're actually
in love because we are going on the road. We're going to be in Atlanta on August seven, Orlando on August eighth, Denver on August twenties second seconds and then no, no, no, this is wrong. Uh. We're gonna be in Atlanta, Orlando, Denver, and Chicago throughout the month of August. You can get tickets. I'm definitely putting them on my Instagram, So get tickets there.
We'll have it on the Forever Up website, and I'm gonna encourage Boonen Yang to put them on his And also we're so gonna be back at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn on September one. Very excited about all these things. Now I do have and I don't think so I have one too. But well, I'll have you go first, as it's traditional, says Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many times starts now, I don't think so, honey. Baby
talk and baby humor, I just don't like it. You know when someone think, I'm just like you lost me because I feel like what you're cutting off here is the many years that you've progressed from babyhood to adulthood. And I want to know about the culture and the humor that's influenced you in that space of a span of time. Were you the funniest ever that you ever have been when you were a baby. I don't think so, honey. So why are you talking like a baby now? It
actually runs right through me, the baby voice. I also, I'm sorry, I'm gonna stand out to baby humor videos of babies don't make me laugh. I'm sorry, you can stop sending them to me. I enjoy a baby but I don't need to opt into baby humor. I'm an adult. I prefer adult humor, like adult comedians, Tina Fey, things like that. So when you speak to me in the baby voice, know that I am wincing. And it's just like some of my closest friends love to do a baby voice, and I don't love any voice. I don't
think so, honey, baby voice. And that's one minute. I agree with you. I think there's there's one person you're that you're referring to in particular. There must be can can I say their name? Go ahead? Sudie Green. Sudie Green loves baby voice, and maybe you were. She loves to send me videos of babies, and I don't love baby voice and baby. I gotta say, I think I'm with you. I don't know who knew this was going to be called out culture even sometimes can say this
is a take, this is a take. You're a cruel bow. What I'm gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna out myself as as a heartless motherfucker. Sometimes when I get a video of my niece. I'm like, Okay, I don't care about videos of anyone's baby because I'm so sorry. I love my niece so goddamn much. I don't a person, not a comedian, you don't always want to see her like do ship? You know what I'm saying. You're not looking for her latest ship. I'm sorry, but there you go.
Ellie has not formed her comedic voice. No, And it's actually a detriment to her to send you videos because now this is part of her that legacy. Remember that one time I, like, you know, played the piano in a weird way, like yeah, but that like, now that's cannon and now that's like it's it's part of your legacy, and right, we're gonna have to reckon with that at
some point. It's like, especially in culture now when everything gets on the internet, like people, these babies might get canceled for videos of them as babies later on when they were adults trying to make a comedic career. Happened because they were garbage when they were babies, because baby humor isn't funny. Actually stopped talking to me in a baby voice. Now, I love I actually love seeing Ellie all the time. That sucks that you do that, because
you just said otherwise. You just said otherwise, and now here you are. That was taken out of context. No, you said it. We were fucking here. No, I said in a world where anyway. Okay, that's that's that's a beautiful. I think somebody that brave. Thank you, I really, I just like I can handle it with baby stuff. All right, So this is gonna be Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey, And in fact, his time starts now. I don't think they standing at an angle in an elevator, bitch, face
the front, motherfucker. Last night, I go, I go home with my parents. Were up the elevator. These drunk assholes come in to go to the rooftop. Its PM. They go, can you hit the roof please? They needed my fob to scan them up to the roof. I go, and I was, I was a bitch, and I go, I think the roof closes at ten, and it was, yeah, but our parties up there still, so we have to clean up. And I go, okay, scan the fob and then what they do is they stand at an angle
to face me as a bullying tactic. I think I was with my parents. My parents like they sandwich to my mom. It was so weird. It was just this weird, crazy like formation. And I was like, this is bad and this actually makes all of us uncomfortable and out of our elements. You are distorting reality for fifteens And how dare you when I will put you on blast on my podcast listen to buy thou since and sir, I will meet you in the field and love will win.
And I'm quoting Marian and most of I don't think so, Hona. Yeah, honestly, that sounds like a billion tactic um. Elevator um stances are very important. You have to remember you're not in there. You face front. It's been that way since, bitch, since elevators weren't. We got it, We figured it out already. There's no like remix remix unless it's a two sided door elevator situation. But it wasn't a taste. But if
what if? I was like, I don't think so, honey, my traumatic childhood and I talked about all the things I went through. Can I just riff for one? Can I say one thing about elevator culture? Something I've realized about myself I can't be in an elevator with a romantic or sexual partner without it becoming a full thing. I have tooke up in the elevator, even if if it's if it's if it's just an else. I'm just saying, like, I'm sorry. My grandma was there, my mom was there.
Everybody was looking at us, and they were asking us for money, and I was hooking up. But if we're avator together, if we're an elevator together and you are my partner, yeah, and we're not trying to hook up with me when the doors closed, it's really crazy and we are in a fight now when the door opens, get off me off. So now it's time for Alice's I don't think it's really hard. I have been so nervous about this. You can do sement. This is such
a you can just do your traumatic childhood. It's fine. I know, like, it's well, okay, happening now have I started? Oh no, this is Alice Weaterloands. I don't think so, honey, your time starts now. Okay, I don't think so, honey, your hero, whatever it is, I don't hear what it is.
This isn't the way we do things anymore. We get fine if you appreciate the art and you have to separate it from the artist or whatever, but like, stop every time somebody does a thing being like, well I like him though so and then defending everybody is a fucking human who has sucked up. Everyone is bad and if they're famous, they're definitely bad. We're famous, they're evil. End of story is includes me, so fucking go and like it's not like you're like, oh my god, you
get something from that. You get something from like the Sniggers and they're like, yeah, Mars is my ship. I love Mars and everything Mars. Does you say anything about Mars? It sucks. No, we just only fucking like a Snickers bar. That's fine. So they just get your heroes and knock them out the fucking pedestal because it's punk rock bit and that's one minute. You know what. I've actually rarely met a hero and been satisfied. It's horrible, even people,
even people slightble. It's a horror store. I met Paula Tompkins, who was my comedy hero now not my hero anymore because he's my fucking friend. Yeah, it sucks, especially he's too nice. He's a he's a good person, but only to your friends at your heroes exactly like where you're like, no, that's a good dude. Actually meeting there's only one way to go when you meet your hero, which is down, which is whether they disappoint you so much or they become your peer and then you're like, well, fun, now
this sucks. Who look, I don't look up to anybody any Yeah, yeah, I don't look up to anyone. Yeah. I think maybe because of Paul. It's like that it's the one exception where he really was and the lovely person. But like then there's Paul, and then that leaves everybody else. Damn. You're right, Paul is great. And that's a shout out to Paul Tompkins. And this episode, the White Pitch Narrative. White Pitch Narrative has been so fun and we have covered all the ground and what a fucking joy that
we got you in here. It's your gorgeous Scarlett Johanson asked, thank you. It is perky. I woke up and I was like, what are you gonna be today? You know, and I'm going to be actually I'm going to up. I'm caffinated. Yeah, I mean I had a cold bruin. I'm killing as well. Um. August Special as they say, drops drops as they say, Um, we love Alice so much. Please find her, follow her. Don't make your hero because you've dippointed. Every episode he gets unded with the song
Allah Girls, Pap Papa and Wow. Okay, so we didn't see a mad bit? Did you see a mad ho? Is she mad? I don't know. I think the other hose math. Is it like a mad Hatter situation where she's like actually a meteleo to be continued. To be continued by This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit Forever Dog Podcasts dot com and subscribe to our shows on Apple podcast, Spotify, or
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