“Talking Facts” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

I don't trust human beings. So I just butchered Mary m Cosby's podcasting debut, which was documented on the premiere of the Real House as a Salt Lake City, but one of the startling episode the audio itself is not released. See and this is the thing? Is I thought? So I was actually and this is like behind the current of the entertainment industry. I was able to see the episode a couple weeks ago a friend, Samuel Link and this happens. I'm blessed to have many friends. You are.

How does it feel? It feels incredible. I have many secrets about the entertainment for you that I could reveal, but they would get me into trouble with high people. Hi people, how many girl? I'm not enough girl? Um? Anyway, we we What was I saying? We're so tired? We're so tired. Okay, readers, publicists, because it's where you're still publicists, still season. We're very tired. We're coming out. You were happy to be here, but you just have to level

with it. We're gonna level with you and you get on our level. We're tired, but that's okay, that's okay. This is the last week of the Fire Island movie. Yes, and just know that it is going to be the great film of our time. It's going to be. Um, it's definitely going to lead the Oscars. I'm not kidding when I say that Matt Rogers don't really don't go right now, let me let me go and then I'll go. Matt Rodgers delivers maybe the most balanced performance in the

entire You have to stop you. You're getting pure broad common a physical comedy, smart, incisive comedy about the culture. And that is what Kay Austin did best. And you're giving really beautiful emotional performance. Thank you for saying that I'm doing well in the film. I have to return the compliment. I truly do. I have to say that

I have just I'm gonna go. I'm going there. Um. I have yet again been impressed by bow and Yanks gives his talents and how he goes to I mean there is a scene in the film, and we can say it's a romantic comedy. So there is a scene and Bowen is one of the leads of the film, so there is a scene where he is receiving is receiving love and I was standing on a boat. But I was standing on a boat watching this happen, and I was like, Sandra Bullet. It was the Sandra Bullock

school of receiving. Remember the scene, and this is one of my favorites. Let's talk romance comedies. First. The Proposal. Yes, the last thing in the Proposal just famous for two reasons, one and iconic. Clearly clearly reshoots one of the biggest continuity errors of all time. Her hair was it was a different head. She had gone through a full head and did revert back to the original, Yes, it did.

It was like she turns around, She's like what what now the readers have seen it, because I have seen it, because we've said she turns around and she's like what what. She's like barking orders and then Ryan Royn was there and she goes He's like, hey, I came here to see you. And it comes back to her and she's like Andrew and she's a different person, different different different things. Clearly, they brought her head ringer back six months later to

do reshoots. But it's also famous for me because Sandra, I don't really know what to say about what she does, but she's doing this. She is receiving the information of I love you and I want to be with you from Ryan Reynolds, and it's so you are the audience with her right there. You're receiving it too. And I was watching you and I was like, my god. And this is not spoilers because people know this story of parton Prejudice. Okay, Jane Wins it is. It is my yes, yes,

a thousand times yes. The moment, it is truly gorge and I'm so excited for it. And also, I mean we're just so suffice to say we have a busy well, let's just say this has a busy weekend. Next weekend he's going to the Emmy Awards and it's all gonna go down. Oh my god. No, I'm ready to just have fun. I've been like on my just grind all

summer and not. And I'm not bragging about I'm just saying like I'm like, you've been raal, like, oh, this is supposed to be the summer that I like recharged, and I didn't do I was on the campaign trail. It was that it was let's just this is just

a peek behind the curtain. Okay, I'm so lucky, yes, and yeah, I am like constantly caught in this you know, fun little cycle of when you're doing press for one show, you're doing press for another show, and then you're you're shooting one thing and you're shooting another, and then you're

shooting a nut. So whatever this set this sounds, this potentially could come off as so ungrateful, but it's just it's still it's still labor, you know, it's it's and so and and I should say that Matt and I both stand in solidarity, solidarity with our I A T. S. Brethren, absolutely, and it is work for everybody. And at least at least I'm not in a place where I am so emotionally exhausted on top of being like just so so deeply mistreated in some Oh my god, no, let it

be known that Matt Rodgers are union girls. We we stand with the union, and we are pro strike if it comes to that, absolutely, because people need to be treated and for those who are not aware, you know, this is about crew members being treated fairly. You know, we just need to make sure the wages are so much better than they currently are. They need to be contracts need to be updated so that streamers are not

considered new media anymore. Absolutely, and also the hours, you know, it gets crazy and people are asked to be People are worked to the bone in this industry and we're seeing it on our production. I mean, we love everybody working in the crew. They are having to ferry in like every single day, like it's this is incredibly difficult, very difficult, and to think that and and you know our set has been a happy one and but to know that that is not the case. You know, industry wide,

you know we are in support. But the reason I bring that up is because we are going to take next week off. We're taking next week off, so how us this let that be a moment of respite for you to really start to strategically campaign for your categories. We'll talk about the awards and it's not yes, darl and so we're gonna get to the awards, but we're taking next week off because we're gonna wrap up the movie.

Bone is gonna go either win or not win an Emmy, and both will be fine, and then we're gonna regroup and we'll be back. But I've made by the way, I've just made peace with the outcome that I'm pretty

sure will happen and Breed Goldstein sure. When I was thinking about it, I was like, you know that, And I know you don't love to talk about the awards, um, but I was like, you know, they really did that thing again where they nominated three shows, three shows, and then what will probably happen is one show will sweep the entire blessed God bless and you know, God, God blessed. But um, anyway, I'm obviously insanely proud of you either way, and I have seen the gifts be given on the film,

and this is what I was saying. You were truly receiving the the you were just were giving me actress, you were giving me start this podcast. We have to say that that that when we get the opportunity to to to be star actress, if we had not come through on both, that would have been humility, my sister. You have been both the entire time. Mom, I look at me, Mom, you are so fucking talented. It's crazy. It makes me, It makes me. I have a note

prepared for you for my little rap gifts. But I be and Yang is Bell, and Yang actually came back from he he took a ferry out to sort of get his rap gifts together, came back with these bags, Darling. Darling, And I'm not going not saying there were bass. There are bags with gifts anyway. Okay, So, so well, what I want to say is we because I'm gonna be able to have the opportunity to do a right up

right after the rap thing. This has been such an amazing experience and it's been ups and downs because the subject matter has been what it's emotional, yes, but the crew has been unbelievable. And when the movie is going to come out next year, we don't know when, but it will be out on Hulu next year. We definitely will be having people from the movie on and just it's gonna be so exciting to share this with everyone truly. Um, so thank you for understanding in advance and the way

you understood way you understands talking facts with Matt and Bowen. Okay, so uh what was I gonna say, Oh my gosh, this is I mean, you could you could say that we are potentially really checking the entertainment industry circle jerk part of that worst insult towards this nominee, the Apple podcast. Yeah, entertainment industry circle. First of all, can we just say, out of all the out of all the nominations, it was so thrilling to watch them come in and see

that Wendy Williams is now leading nominations. Is that as many as Titanic or Returnity. The King had the Titanic at fourteen Oscar nominations. But that doesn't mean that we can't call the Wendy Williams Titanic. She is the Titanic of the Lost Cultures Cultural Award. Do you think we'll do this again next year? I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, because here's the thing.

It was very Lost Cultures Culture Awards. But then you'll find that there were nominees from years ago, even though the categor stories. Some categories specifically say blank of the year of the year of the year, like no record, perfect rules, record of the year. All I want for Christmas is you was nominated, and that was famously came out many years ago, but it is a record of this year's nominations. It's a nomination. So the thing is like, will there be one next year? I say, watched the Space,

watched the Space. But awards are a lot of the many of them are annual, many awards its actually really culture number six awards. Many of them are actual and we just can't say. We just can't say, but but you know, I watched this space. Um, what was your favorite nominations that you saw roll in on nomination morning when Matt Rogerson Boone Yang announced them. I mean, there's so many we're not we should say we're not looking

at them. So this is truly like off the top of our heads, I mean, best best animals, best best animal in the forest, in the forest I thought, I thought creatures on non early front run or for best animal on the forest, because that is one of the most spooky things. It's one of the most distinctive things about the forest, which is the creatures. I mean, there's very much that thing of when you're in the forest and you're wrestling and you go, what was that? What

was that? What was that? What was that James James, But yeah, should we say our brains are full? It's giving broken bread because all this cast does to each other is just quote and repeat the same fucking ship over and over again, which is mostly when Dy Williams moments Son Tiffany Polar moments, Um, you know, we'll do it runs the game, will like to recite Miranda Priestley lines. Yeah, I mean really, it's just can you imagine if there was even one heterosexual actor on this crept? This is

my thing is, It's like I can't just believe. I can't even believe they do movies where straight people play gay people. I'm like, how do you do it? Like the the It can't I'm saying it can't be that. I guarantee you it is. It has not been that enjoyable for a straight actor to play a gay person. How do you plug into like what it is actually like to like to walk around and be gay and have a gay brain and think all these stupid fucking thoughts.

I mean this, this actually reminds me of Okay, So the other the other day, we were doing a scene where we all are lugging our stuff down the road, down the road, down like the bridge to get to our house and we're like, oh, the house is so far whatever, and these gays walked by and judge us, and one of the extras was a straight man love him, we love the well, I'm just saying he's a he's an icon, but I think he got the note like, um, so you're a gay man and you guys like a

catty gay guys and you're judging them. So he walks by, and when I tell you, he gave us his whole life when he was judging us, and so so deeply funny and such a brutal, brutal, brutal portrayal of a gay perfect a gay judger. And then Andrew On the director, blasted blast his heart was like, hey, whatever's going on with the risk probably just turned that down but otherwise good.

And so I was like, but it goes to the point of like, yeah, just like straight people having to occupy a queer I guess he was not a professional actor, blessed heart, But like, still, it's work. It's it is work, Like he has to like think about like he has to really be an actor in that moment, think about all these choices. So yeah, that's why I feel I feel that for sure. I just was thinking about the other day. I'm like the amount of ship that we have just spun off and done like as a group,

and that's been really good. The bonding of the cast has been fun. If there was one heterosexual man, I just don't know either that person would feel singled out or he would be like a little too indulgent in the idea that he was around a bunch of gaming and probably like fancy himself, like oh I'm special right, or And you know that is dangerous. When straight men start to feel special, that's very dangerous. That's actually really

culture number fifty five. When straight men start to feel special, that's very dangerous. Let's talk about what what is there anything else about the awards that you want to talk well, I mean, just off the top of my head, I'm so happy we singled out creatures are known in the forest of the animals in the forest, because I just

I was so shook by that nomination nomination morning. And I also want to say shout out to hot engineer Doug, who did an amazing I loved that he really dropped in and he was very much like the pomp and circumstance of the nominations really was felt the way he said, in one hundred unique category categories such a line, it was just amazing, just incredible things. It was just amazing.

And you know, I have so many favorite nominees, but I will just say, like in in the in the big categories, like Artists of the Millennium, I was happy to see Lissa Edwards sneak in there, and Mike White, to be honest, Mike White really late entry. Mike White and late entry. But I think White Lotus really came in at the right time in the campaign for the nomination process because it was on people's mind, it was

on the publicisty yes. And then another category. You know, it's gonna be really interesting to see aquamarine take on blue. Most color each other out. It's one of those. And I guess not. I mean otherwise like there would be votes splitting. That will there be votes split splitting? That's

actually something we have to ask. I think there might be vote splitting between um shicido peppers and water for the table for now might have chips all sneak in there and take it so um anyway, it's somebody to say we don't know when the awards will be with they're not scheduled and maybe they maybe they'll never happen,

but um, but definitely looking forward to that. Should we talk about something that really rocked the cast today, because I think people might have thought that we might have already recorded our episode before we heard about Nicki Minajo's anti vax stance. But we should also say this is a cast full chock full of barbs, so many barbs, I mean, just able to recite beat me up Scottie versus like we we are barbs down. And the news today was hard. It was hard to take that. How

did you feel? Because I I sort of ambled over to you and I just said bad news. Well, and then I I and then I revealed to that I already because Joel broke it to me probably seconds before, seconds before you, and he went he went look like just like you know when someone comes to you like look, really bad news. I was like, oh my god, something

terrible has happened. He goes look, and I look at his phone and I see the tweet and I just go, oh, no, it's because the thing is And then I did that thing where it's like you start in your brain to sort of form a defense, and then I don't want to protect the person. And then I just I was I literally started to say out loud, well, you know, people have different and then I was like, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm in September. Vaccines have been available for

eight months, and I I don't know. This is this is how a lot of you know, what Allen lovers must have felt. It's not quite the same. Of Course, he didn't, you know, cheat on his wife with his child, but um, she didn't. What's what's that? Well, you said he didn't cheat on his wife with his child, and I said, well she didn't, Nikki didn't. Of course, it's not not her being anti backs is not quite the same quite the same as you know, statutory rape. But um,

you know this is really really troubling. This and and then for her to sort of elaborate that her cousin cousin cousin became impotent because his testicles so big, and then so basically, for those who don't know, she tweeted that she's not attending the MECA because you had to get By the way, we'll talk about the Macalla briefly, but you can't go to the Metcala if you're not vaccinated.

She's not getting vaccinated for the metcale. If she gets vaccinated, it will be for other reasons, which by the way, she's working on. She said, she's going to do her own research and she's quote unquote working on that research. And she said her cousin got the vaccine and his balls blew up real big, so big he was impotent, and then the girl he was married getting married to called off the wedding. As if that is like I don't even scientific details. I don't even really know what

to say, because here's the thing. Unfortunately, it's funny. Unfortunately it's funny. She's a storyteller. Unfortunately a story was told.

It's this is the thing. And we even had this conversation today about other female artists who we admire and we brought We won't name names, but we will say the reference point, which is, look, us queers are still standing one Mrs Alia Banks today, after all of all of the nasty, nasty things that have come out of her mouth, which are sort of ultimately still sort of funny. I mean, we laugh about something, and so therefore you're like like problematic faiths like that, we don't have to

go through all the mental gymnastics to defend them. We can just look at someone and say, wow, she's probably so rich and out of touch as a potential reason for why she might be anti vax to be like, well, that's our that's our girl, and she's a little bit more humanized and we're not gonna deify her in quite the same way as we did. And here's another thing. And this is sort of like airing on the side of defense. But it's not no want us to know how your favor is, you know what I mean? Like,

you can keep your problematic faith to yourself. I will come out here and say this. I sometimes will YouTube stream the Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani duet. Okay, there's a few of them. I will sometimes stream the one that says, I don't want to go down any other

road now. I don't want to nobody but you. That was sort of a combination of when and Blake that I was doing that a beautiful, beautiful thank you, And I streamed that sometimes knowing full well that Gwen Stefani's friends with Paul Ryan might be some sort of uncouth untoward figure, but you know the art from the artist. Do you think we're as I said, we as a society or doing a better job of that? I think

it depends. Here's the thing, knowing Nicki Minaj is anti vax and has this stupid fucking reason for it, Am I, what are what when we hear super bas come on or we're not going to rush the floor? Can I just point out something not to bring it back to us. Was kind of snapped at the awards. We didn't really nominate her. She really didn't get many on the She and Tyra really didn't. Tyra was snubbed in a major

way and Nicki was snubbed in a major way. And maybe maybe maybe we knew intrinsically that we somehow because you and I are very in touch with the ethers. Oh I put I licked my finger, put it up to the wind every morning, every morning, and we're but we're very in touch with the ethers, and we're very

You and I are very sensitive to energy. And it's actually true that I agree, we're very in touch with the energy, and we're maybe this is a little woo woo, but we're sort of sometimes what will happen is when Bowen and I are in a different state and plane will sort of break the airspace. The airspace I was sort of, my whole body will sort of retch up in and I'll look to the sky and I'll say,

he's calm. You know, I know when he's coming. No, let me tell you that the most recent occurrence of this, which was you were in town around Oh my god, yes, yes, and we were. I was supposed to meet you and Josh for an outside drag race viewing. Yes, Georgy was hosting with hosting, and then I out and then you had not seen you in months, the longest we had ever gone. I think I think that might be true. And I turned the corner to this place and you

were right there. Yes, And can I tell something. It's because and I actually this is the most surreal thing I sensed. I was like, I have to go outside now. I know when I turned the corner, he's gonna be turned to the corner. And then it happened. Because I'm very sensitive to the energies and the ethers, and I know that you are too, and I just know when

these things happened. So I think that maybe some sort of like psychological like thing was going on there where we knew not to nominate her because we didn't really feel that this was her moment to have a light shining on her. You know, we did that. We did that, We did that, and I am so proud of us, so proud of us, period. Period. And that's on period. That's on period. Let's talk about the Macaluan were it's happening now as we speak. It's literally the met the

looks are rolling in. The theme is some type of America American independence girl. I don't know which which I was like what it's specific enough sometimes like the wording of the themes, I'm like, okay, but what is it? Like I get that. It's like like it was like, um, when they did the religious theme, the Catholic imagination, Yeah, that was the culic imagination whatever, and it was just so sort of like like fruit fruit. I was like, okay, but what is it? What are we expecting to see?

You know? You know what I love when it's when it's based every now every every now and then they'll do um based on designers, so they'll do a Christian do your year, They'll do like uh whatever like that was the most recent one, and that I love, like everyone's taken coming gars. Yeah, I love when it's specific. This is too broad. Yeah, and it almost feels like they, like a lot of the celebrities didn't know what to do with it, or they didn't want to do it.

Like I I think a lot of people look stunning. I'm just wondering exactly how they are ruminations on the theme, but I sort of leave the theme behind and I'm like, Okay, the theme is what it is out. Yeah, it's just about seeing that the people in the clothes and it's so fun, right, how do they look? And I think the chairs all looked really good. I thought Amanda Gorman looked unbelievable, Timothy looked great, came in with a doll. We love. That was sort of grow gou appreciation appreciation.

We love that. I mean, let's just say legends only. I mean, Iman that was absolutely amazing. I mean, Billie Eilish looked fast in Oscar de Laurenta. I believe, Yeah, I mean like truly, I mean, there were there was great ship happening. I would say, I don't even want to really mention anyone that I don't think looked good. Here's what else say. It's frustrating and humiliating to watch someone show up in something hideous and then put on like a fashion face. I'm like, oh, like you're like

you think they're trying too hard. Like when someone is coming in with like that put them and there were something like wrong. I mean that's like I'm like, we're going to do that. Everyone's under that and show but you know, like it's just a phase that everyone has to go through, you know, it's just like you got to be able to like perceive yours. I'm on this journey where I'm like I am, I'm learning through this process to like know what I look like and how

I look my best. I think I think people are on their own journey, you know what. I also think it's often not up to the people that look bad on the roadway and that that the more you that's

and that's isn't that so sad? Like it's not their fault. Yes, it's just like this is why, Well, I don't know, Like I read something with Resorts where she's like and she's like privileged to do this, but she's like for every red carpet thing she has like six stresses there and she never actually makes a decision until the day, which I didn't know that's something that they did. Yeah,

they can do that. I mean like typically it's like a lot of people don't finalize their look until like days before something, especially for big events like the oscars of the mac Gallery are like big, big, big thing, because you don't want to be married to something that you then put on and feel bad exact and then there's no there's no recourse after that. There's no simply no recourse, simply none. And so it's also just like

imagine going like the stress of that. That's a big one because literally it's not even just like I get to go and enjoy it, it's I get to go and primarily be a topic of fashion discussion, which is

just checked by someone. And there's also no just great yeah, and but but what I mean is like there's no there's no bigger assumption that someone takes themselves seriously more than them arriving at the met Gala and like being like here's my look, because if you're one of those people that's they're being photographed in a met Gala look because you are invited that says to everyone like, oh no, yeah, I I take myself this seriously and I'm venting this

to you as not only fashion but art and like cultural discussion. So have at it. And that is brave because you're really putting yourself out there in the most high risk way. Yeah, because that's like if you look, if you're a flop and then people are going to be talking for our prolonged period of time. Bat Yeah, yeah, I mean so, so in that way, it's bravery and truth. It is brave. No, I'm literally and this is okay.

Some fucking idiot's gonna think we're like stumping for celebrity rights. No, but it's just like psychologically that has to have some effect on you. Here's what I'll say. Four years ago, I might have gotten on this podcast and been like so and so looked direct flop whatever. But now now that I know a little bit more about it, I'm gonna be a little nicer. And that's actually g r

w t H growth growth. Natasha Rothwell Gift posted, Now we don't we don't drag anyone for looking bad at the met gallop because you know what, maybe it was someone else. Maybe so many things could go wrong. So many things could go wrong. By the way, this is just again if you can't tell by now, this is just a culture recap episode we'ven't done when this is a culture catch up? Culture catchup? Culture, I'm sorry, culture catch up? Culture catch up? Did I mistermed? It so

much culture to talk about? And wait, we sort of touched on Saltlake at the top, Yeah, we did, say Joe, Joe can okay, so he said that he wanted to come in and talk about salt Lake with us because last night we all watched salt Lake together. Now here's the thing. Um, Like I said, I saw it a few weeks ago, and I have I had even sent the link to my sisters. But I'm actually really happy that we all waited to discuss it together. Joe Kim's here,

Um now say hi hello. So um. Basically, what we found was that it was one of the best episodes of Housewives in recent memory, and we also felt that it was far and away a best season opener. Oh my god, I mean what what were our general thoughts? I think the ladies, after a season of watching themselves, have sort of awoken in the machine a little bit,

and they understand what they need. They understand the assignment better as often they do in the second seasons of these shows, Like they know that they are now archetypes. They are not human beings. They no longer exist as humans to us. But it's a thing where all of them know are plugging in in the right way, because sometimes you get housewives who watched themselves on TV for one season and then they kind of change course in

a way that is not great for them. And I think all of them understand what they should do, but they were gonna except for except for Heather. I think Heather is gunning for a bad second. Yeah, what I'll say about Heather, I think Heather is is again gauging it wrong. I think she's playing and she was like I told you guys about what she really flopped and watch what Happens live being like, I think that Jen's business is unsavory. I've thought that from the beginning of

Her Friend because she's fun and smart. It's like, honey, that's not how that's not what fun and smart people do. But I will say that she'll be watchable and she'll be a good housewife, and every single one of them are going to be good housewives. They're all set up, but Heather will just be confounding. Especially You'll be like, what are you doing? I mean you Also, you often see this, I think with UH, with either girls who are going into their second season or with this show

it's the second season. In general, she's going in high of her own supply and oh how the mighty will fall. We see it. We saw this this season. We saw this season with Leah, we saw it with Um. Let us not forget Leanne Lockin coming off an amazing season from season four to season five, Culture number fourteen, let us not forget um. It happens all the time, and they and she will be humbled. She will be hung absolutely And it's the people. It's the real to follow

that always fox these women up. I have to confront Joe Kim because I have to. This is one of my favorite things to do. Let's confront people on the podcast. So we're sort of sitting here in Ben Bowen's bedroom, like watching the show last night, and we start with Lisa going over to Jen's house, and about six times during the episode, Joel Kim turned to me and said, you are Lisa. You are Lisa, You are Lisa to the point where I started to feel like a drag.

But I want you to know that Lisa's powerful this season, and Lisa is riding a trojan horse, and I do I agree with her in the conflict with Meredith, which is going to become a conflict. No, but Lisa is here as a house I have to stay. And people said she was going to be out soon. I don't think. I don't. I don't think she's out soon. And it was not a drag. I simply believe that you are an active listener in the same way that Lisa is

an active listen. I would be telling you, like literally, any time I tell you a story, it is a lot of amazingly. I love that, love that, and I love this. I love this. I also do I do respect anyone that rides from fast food place to fast food place and like her Mercedes, she still looks like that, feel that she's your sister because of her passion for diet coke. Yes, I do feel connected to her about that.

I do feel connected about that. I would like to transition us now, because if you're calling me out, then I I want to start by simply bringing up the topic of Mary m Cosby. Okay, we have we we we brought up at the beginning, but let's really dig. First of all, I just want to say that I think Mary is sort of poised to become one of our greatest housewives legendary. I believe that she is great and and I believe that she is incredible and amazing for the show, and that she is dangerous and she'd

be removed from television immediately. Um, I fear from my life. I fear for the lives that those around her. I think she's dangerous. I think it's she is an incredible piece of television history. She is anti narrative, anti narrative. We were saying, we were saying, the three of us

that the podcast is anti structure. Yeah, well, when when Mary m cosby comes on Housewives of Salt Lake City, the show actually becomes avant garde, It becomes it becomes theater of the mind, it becomes odyssey of the mind, it becomes sort of journey into another level of the conscious. Yeah, because she says things like I don't belong in this world, and she says I don't trust human beings, and then she sort of gets into it. I was born by God,

I was born for God. These sort of things which are so And then when she's when they cut to her in her hat and she says, UM, I don't want to drink Jen's friendship juice. That's the sort of stuff that creeps me out. Excuse me out. I'm like, I never it's always reaction, but never enough reaction. Also, where's it coming from. I've never seen someone literally move through space like she knows talking to herself. I'm like, this is really really unsettling because I've not seen a

human being like this ever in my life. And let it be known that her podcast completely missing from the Internet. Those mics were not plugged in. Um. And here's where the call up comes in, because again I do love Mary. She is my in my top five. I think she's a terrorist. I think she needs She's obviously taking advantage of people, and she is maybe one of the most evil people to ever appear on a Bravo reality television show. And I believe that her rise can be directly attributed

to your platforming of this awful, amazing person. I agree, and I have no regrets regrets what we did say. I think someone there was a bad news there was a bad news day for her, and then you and I texted each other like we have to resist. We almost said we have to get on and do a whole episod resending that whole episode, which would have been too much, Which would have been too much. I don't stand by it. I think I kind of agree with Joel and I think we should. We should, we should

present the day. I guess what we have to say again is watch this space Space Um. Whitney dropping the cake was iconography perfection, rule of the perfection. That was a great moment um. I thought all of meredith scenes were good. We got to see a deeper side of Meredith. I think Meredith is poised to have the best the Queen.

I think that Meredith is positioning herself very much in the way that Kyle has managed to do in a lot of ways, in that Kyle is sort of the conduit for a lot of personal drama in her own life without being in conflict with a lot of the LVP, notwithstanding some of that stuff. But but, but there are a few housewives that you can sort of settle into and watch them deal with personal family drama without the

conflict with the other women. Now she's obviously activating a little bit more this season is engay James Meredith speak um. But I I also I I'm happy to watch her go through her marriage problems. I'm happy to watch her deal with her father's death. I'm happy to watch her put a dog in a sweater. I'm there, sweater. The product placement was on point, she said, exactly, assignment, my fashion assignment. I find her to be very compelling, and

I find her resistance to drama in itself a drama. Well, it's not resistance to drama because she has a very very steadfast value system. Let's say, I mean her talking about Brooks and protecting Brooks of sexuality in a way that is kind of bogus. But to be like, Brooks has never talked to and he was referred to as a twig, as a twig specifically, there was one post referring to him as that was and that there is

now a narrative. We are now existing in the world where brooks marks of sexuality is in question, and this in his sexual He's barely spoken about it, even to me, let it alone, to jen Shaw my family. She I mean it's I Connar. I have done nothing to Jenneha. This is what I think about Meredith. In any good show, you have a will they or won't they? Will they won't they narrative? Thank you Rachel and Ross or Ross and Rachel. Either way it could work. Um, the will

they won't pay thank you? It's another one. Um. And the will they won't they of salt Lake is Meredith, and the narrative the will they won't of salt Lake is Meredith Marks and the narrative of the show. Is she too good for it? Or is she going to get messy? And we've we've we have answered the question.

She called the Feds, She called the fends and they're that they're insinuating that she called Defends on Jen which, by the way, we haven't even brought up Jen which is insane that this episode went was chocked of enough that we're not even talking about biggest Jester flop nominee Jen Shaw of the Real househ of Salt Lake City.

She is almost definitely going to jail. And we saw the first minute or so of the episode depicted the actual fleeing of the beauty lab scene that was jen Shaw getting the call that she was going to be arrested in the two months earlier cut away, she says to who to Lisa, you know I would go to

jail for you. I haven't gone to jail yet. Five star episodes there was no I And this is this in a golden era of housewives, And we can all agree in an episode where pretty much every episode of Beverly Hills is almost five stars, if not at least four. I've enjoyed various Potomic has been great, and Potoma continues to be great. I definitely like we're at a little bit of a stall um. And this is the think the first episode that we thought maybe a scular needs

to give more. Yeah, lots of shots of Escalat putting food in our mouth this week. It's and she's only had one confessional. Look this whole time, hasn't she We need more? Um, I just want to really quickly quote Meredith Marx again, horrible despicable, repugnant things. Yeah, I mean just just wonderful, wonderful poetry there hits the air just right. And also, this is another thing about Whitney. I want

to just jump back to her. It's very hard for me to hear anyone say the words work hard, play hard, and we still like them. And when she said that she was teaching her adult step children that she works hard and play hard and they tend too, I was like, you know what, that's actually good and those kids need that. Those twenty nine year old men that are her son's need a figure like her to show them work hard,

play hard, and that's all. That's all Mormons want. A twenty year old Mormon in their twenties wants to hear or to really internalizes the work hard, play hard. That's what Lula ro is all about. I can't wait to watch Lula watch Lula Rich. Have you heard about Lula Rich? Um? I only know about it in the context of that man being upset about Kelly Clarkson, that is the lightning

rod of controversy. Yes, Unfortunately, watched Yanks interview. So now I'm with two people who have been on the Kelly Clarkson Show, and I am her biggest fan, and I'm not one of them. We just watched Bowen Yanks charming interview on her was fine, it was I was nervous, um. But she apparently is featured in the Lula Rich documentary. I guess because she performed a private concert. She performed concert for Lula Row, which actually makes a perfect amount

of sense. But, um, we're gonna watch the documentary. I might even watch it tonight with my friends if you wish. That's insane. We have to be up in like six hours. Well they've been early causes suggest watching Lula Rich when we have to be up in six hours. I would love to watch an informative documentary with my friend where what? What network? Is it? A Prime? It's on the Amazon Prime? What's huge for them? You know? I actually what I mean?

And the streaming wars. They didn't have a big Landmark doc and now they're going to have one. Before before I let Joel float off back into sleepytown. UM, I want to know your thoughts, everyone's thoughts on new housewife Jenny. Jenny? What do we think of her compelling personal narrative and backstory? An interesting and interesting, compelling personal narrative. Um, we I

need to see more. I need to see more. I will say this is my problem with Jenny is that she's not making a big enough play at sort of the branding, like right off the bat her her tagline, um, I have enough of everything? Even secrets. What is it? I have enough of everything, especially opinions, especially opinions. Something like that, very generic stuff could have been could be

said of any housewife, and that's tough. And based on the trailer clips of her, it seems like she's just kind of pulling conflict out of thin air in a way that doesn't fel it was an not working out me is not working out in no star quality there either, UM it does. It is interesting that, um, they really pulled the lever and said we will have Asian women on base franchises. There's one on every franchise. They're really sort of they're they're colonizing every city. They're colonizing. Asians

are colonizing. And it's interesting that she still fits within this sort of me this theme of Salt Lake City, which is, oh, you have a religious person, and here we have Catholicism represented. I would like to see I would like to see a predominantly Asian housewife city. I think something in the Bay Area, something that that you know, or retool Orange County to be mostly Asian. Sure, oh my god, that would be great. I want to see that. I want to see that on my TV. Yes, yes,

that see it, I would like to see it. Um. Wait, there was one other thing. There was one other thing, um the taglines. So I think we we've all agreed that this fleet of taglines was amongst the best, one of the best. Um, but I think we all can say together what the number one maybe best Housewives tagline? And this is gonna really close the loop on the beginning of the beginning of this episode, which is, if you come for me, I will send Jesus after you.

And it doesn't get scarier or bigger than Jesus. Truly, I feel the impact. Still, it has not worn off well. And we have seen women weaponized Christianity on these shows. We've seen women sort of based their entire thing around Christianity. Never have we seen someone evoke Jesus name in such a way as if she hired like a friend, a hit man Jesus. Imagine Jesus chasing you down scarier than arriving in a dark, dark like alleyway, and Jesus come

after you. Would you would really second guest, and he pens you down, and you in your dying breath, the last thing you say is who sent you? And he says Mary M. Cosby, my close personal friend, my sister who was born of me. Truly, I have chills. I have chills. I've I've ever experienced the television show like this. It is I think with one episode out the gate, you realize that first the first season of the show actually was even in the moments where it didn't feel

like it was popping off, everything was essential. Every woman is set up for success. The narratives are we scream laughing every time we see Whitney say we are in danger. She's not who she says she is. At least she's not who she says she I just don't think she is who think who she says she is? Whatever it is shaking. I gotta say even the commercials, even the commercials, from the commercials that played during the episodes, that woman it's from It's from some movie. That woman is a disruptor.

I mean really good stuff. On brab without Top to Bob, we were speaking of um just words like disruptor, trespassing. Candice Stiller Bassett heard about her lost culture Risso's Cultural Award nominations and she said, she said, what categories exclamation point? Question? Someone said at Candice, I can't believe. What a thrill for her to be nominated in three categories the same number of categories at drill Boosters. Do you have any response to your three nominations. UM, I have to say, um,

and I heard about them. UM, I was shocked. UM. I will say, UM. I do feel like I am sort of being set up to lose uh for the joke, and I'm fine with that. No, I'm fine with that, even though I understand what the joke would be. I think it's pretty clear what the joke is. I feel like that what's clear is that Matt and I will lose our categories, but the people who really deserve the awards and will be publicized heavily will win, and you will deserve whoever the funniest game man is, We'll win

whoever had the funniest. I don't think somebody whoever should deserve the joy Bey Harst for coming. I think it's it's just gonna come down to who did the best stand up we actually I have. I don't even know who else is nominated, but besides me and Pat for the joy Behart one, it's you carried Katy Perry for her work in the in the VM as when she hosted Okay the VMAs. Okay, that makes sense, that makes a lot of and I think between the three of you,

and it's a dead heat. It's a dead Remember I was gonna say it's been clear front runners it No, it's the Joy Behar Award for Comedy. It's not Best stand Up. It's so it's I don't know why I have to explain it. And this is the thing. Some of those some of those awards, uh, the Namesake Awards, the Namesakes were nominated Tina Turner was dominated for the Tina Turner she was nominated. Joy Behart was not nominated for the Joy She was Joy Behart. It's kind of

like Diablo Cody Award for Screenwriting? Do you have locally for Young Adult? And NIA ardallos from my big record Wedding, And it's just gonna come down to who deserves the Diablo Cody Award for Screenwriting. Doesn't mean one of those scripts that Diablo Cody wrote is the winner. And I don't really understand why I have to explain this. No, no, no, no,

I'm sorry. I'm sorry to make you explain that. I'm just saying I just want to really disprove this notion that Joel has that he is being set up to lose. He thinks it's a bit, he thinks being set up for a joke. He said, this is a month long process, this is an awards season. It's very serious. Get out of here. I will say. I approached Matt on set, I'll say it on set even and he was hunched over his phone, hunched, hunched, hunched over his phone, and

I said, what are you doing? And you said, I'm voting. And I thought maybe in the California recall election that in my ballot was counted and if you haven't voted in you must, um, And he was. It was the It was actually the ballot for the last Culturalis Award. And he said. He looked me down in the eyes and he said, I don't think you're gonna win. You said that. I don't remember saying that you did. You did? How dare you? I don't. I didn't say that. I

think you look guilty, look of guilty. Um. It might have been. It might have been more so that you were saying I'm not voting for you, which he only has one. I would never or say who I voted for. I haven't voted for anybody. I've never in any election said who I voted for. I don't think it's right to talk about politics, race, religion, creed, or politics. We're not talking about that. Not. No, I'm like Ramona. I don't like talking about race, religion, creed, girlfriends, my girlfriends,

sexy girlfriends stuff, grids. Um, speaking of sexy girlfriend stuff, do you have anything to say about the following topics? Um? Kylie Souniq wins Drag Race, amazing love. As soon as she tripped and recovered, I said, there's the winner going in a sentence, what do you think about Kylie Son winning Drags? What a beautiful journey, What a true full redemption arc in a season of many redemption arcs. What a lovely thing to end on her sort of you know,

really triumphing beautiful? I would say, I agree. I think that also, I don't really know who else would have won. Um. Okay, now I want to give you to have a one sentence review of Casey mos Grave's Star Cross Jill kim Um, I hope she gets ten more divorces. That really has provided good work. Bon yang Uh, I will say cherry Blossoms is an acceptable moment of musical appropriation of Asian culture.

And I was wondering if you thought that, because I said I really like this song when it started, and said, you said, is that cherry Blossoms? And I said yes? And then I wondered if you didn't like the sungs? And what end did I go? No, I love that song. I really loved you. It's a gorgeous song. And she and she and she throws in some like fun like Japanese like whatever, like one influences public trans and no,

she loves Japan. She loves Japan. What what, Joel? I want her to come out like Katie Perry at the Vehomesolcation unconditionally. I thought you were saying she should come out and stand. I don't think so. Can I say, I don't think Katy Musgraves would be as good a comedian as Katie. I really don't know this, but she she wasn't alive with Max Dalter the other day promoting the film and Nextalter, one of the stars of Star

Across the film. Yes, that's true, and she and Meg were having we're doing bits galore, and I think I think it's Casey could really roll with with with the comedian, I would agree, and I think that my my review of Casey Musgrave Starcross is it's so difficult to be cinematic yet intimate, and it was pulled off and you and you said that to me earlier at dinner, and I was like, he's so right, and this is my

girl with with the incisive commentary. You and I love Casey from the from the jump, from the jump, we even we You actually are the reason why so similar to what you said about Miriam Cosby. Well, actually the reason why Casey Chris is popular with gay men because we wrote for Vultu for Vulture and we said gay people pay attention. Boyang and Matt Rogers. We're actually the two most influential Vulture writers. I'm reading this off the internet.

Unter Harris, eat your heart. She can eat her ass out. God, Um, what do you think of Christen Stewart becoming the front runner for Best Actress for playing the nineteenth person um that's done Princess Diana this year? I will say, and I said this online and a lot of people tagged you in it. Um, I am not holding space for bandwagon Kristen Stewart fans. I have been there from the beginning. Was there very personal shopper. It was there during Clouds

sils Maria in the good performances. I was there during Twilight, I was there during Panic Room. Okay, becoming the best actress front runner. For anyone who for anyone who thinks there they might be right in doubting her, all I have to say is, grammatically, this doesn't mean they don't don't. I will say this. When I saw that trailer and she said, I really got the chills, and I Pablo, Lorraine, you are a Jackie Fanily, you are a Jackie fan

Jackie was. And you know what they said that people that have seen um Spencer said that it is a spiritual sister film to Jackie. And they said that, you know, would make a good trio Girardi. But wouldn't you think it would be interesting to Lorraine are one of our modern princesses. Stu Cameron's oscar and everyone's asking, what's Stuve Cameron's oscar? Who's everyone's asking? Every name on everyone's lips is Dove Cameron wonderful topic? Everyone watched the Dove Cameron interviews.

She she's a real fucking girl. Okay, Mary fuck kill Mary Fu killed, Charlie xc X Good Ones, Chloe Mercy, Muna, and Phoebe Bridges Silk Chiffon. This is really hard. And these are the three bops that have come out during production. They've been I'm gonna marry Silk Chiffon, I'm gonna oh, I'm gonna fuck Mercy, and I'm gonna kill Charlie xc X Good Ones because of the funeral imagery. And I think that's what charl would want, because of what you did in the in the music video, and that's the

way I'm gonna salvage the answer. Okay, okay, okay, So I actually have the same response, but I will say I have a slightly different reason for killing Charlie xc X, and it's because it's too damn short. It's too damn songs are too damn short. She's making a chart play, it's too short. She wants the streaming numbers to go up, and she wants to respect yourself. I think we're all gonna have Mercy, just like Chloe was sucking us in that music video. We're all marrying Silk Chiffon. Yes, I

might love those girls. I might fuck good ones, just because it gives me like, so have Mercy. We were we were talking to him, you Queen's heads um in in aber Morrow. They both are like, we like it. It's a little it's just really intense in the way that it is really sexualizing Chloe, and and it is like it feels somewhat calculated in whatever way. I don't

fully with that. I don't fully disagree with that. I just think I watch the Have Mercy video and I go, wow, I feel bad about myself right, and I don't and I can't have sex with someone who I'm intimidated by what I see. I felt like they have Mercy video. I was like, this is such a beyondite production that I almost feel like like but but I wonder like she's such a machine. I'm like, I'm only excited to see what's next. And I'm not surprised she couln't do this.

I guess this didn't. This is a great thing for her to come at the gate with. Right, This wasn't like a thing of like, wow, this artist just gave it to me in a way I never knew they could. So we all knew this was this was coming. But I'm thrilled to see it. Yes, yes, but I'm gonna fun good ones. And I'm sorry I kill have Mercy because I'm scared you want to kill what you're afraid of. But I love that Dante Holly is in it. We're all marrying sick Shiven. We love the ladies. This is

the last cultural topic. Not all ladies what we should say, But we love Doug do your thing. We love them. We love them. Now, the last cultural topic I want to discuss is what do you think of all of a sudden, every every young girl putting out a cover of Defying Gravity because they know they're auditioning for um alphaba? And who is your alphaba? Talk to me about that? Your first who do you want to see as alphabet? And Glinda. I'm not the one to answer this, I

really am not, but I feel not qualified. I think whenever I go to Ariana Grande's Instagram and I see that she follows John him to director of the of the Wicked adaptation, I think, this miss this has to happen. She has to be and it it almost feels like we all have blue balls if she wasn't in it a little bit right like she like she would be the draw for everybody. Think about the generational like reach that like she would have if she were to be cast

either as Alphabra. I think she'd be good as either. Honestly, I think should be good as I've chuckling because I'm remembering last week when I made you sing the Wizard and I as a sim because that is what um a friend. And I believe Ariana sounds like when she sings the Wizard or not and Matt has doesn't know what simlesh is. And if the readers, I know, I didn't stop you, but it is. It is one of the funniest recordings. And I wish I could play I'll play it for I'll play it for you tomorrow now,

Okay that I don't know. I don't I don't know how to answer this. I'm so sorry, I'm not. I also think Ariana ground I should be in the film because I just think why the hell not why the helmet? And I would also say that I since the beginning, have been by the way Emmy winner Kecky Palmer, I think keke Palmer would be a good as Glinda should be amazing. I think she because Glenda and I think she also has an alphable voice. I think we should be thinking of Kei Hammer more for every part part,

but I'm just saying for this as well. I also think Madam Marrible should be Catherine Jada Jones. That's the only thing I'm positive and interesting. Nada would be amazing like Cuckoo, like Madam Marrible. I'm thinking like Christine Baranski interesting. But and maybe that's two similar to her in Chicago. She's like, oh, you know, like she is very like that. Um but I speaking of Dev Cameron, Dev Cameron being amazing Glinda mm hmm. Yeah, I'm not seeing in these choices.

I would like to see Park. Actually, Park, I would like to see um My by Pack Queen Jesse j iconic by POC when she put out that. When she put out that Defined Gravity cover, I said, it's finally great to see an iconic by boxing this song. No you are so I love when I get to see by pop win someone someone someone at a party here on the island. When that the day that video came out of Jesse Jason and Defying Gravity came out, I mean Joel and I had checked him with the Trible.

We were both like we both had our opinions about it. This person comes up to me, gorgeous guy. I couldn't tell if he was making a move on me, but he was like, um, but Jesse j A remix of Domino by Jesse j came out and then he reached over to me and said, um, have we seen the video of Jesse Jason and defying gravity? And I go, I have indeed, and he goes, what do we think?

And right as I was about to open my mouth to be like, I don't know, he said I thought she was incredible, but it was like and that was a Jesse j R. In his bag, in his bag, and I was like, okay, let's just let's just let this go. This this man, I think it has to be said that the video was incredible in a lot of way. Oh, it's an incredible video. The camera anglees alone. She's saying it effortlessly. Oh my, but here's the thing with defined gravity, it's you need to active. I don't

think it should sound effortless. It should sound like the biggest effort in her life thus far. I yes, I feel she should be metamorphosizing. It should feel like a Dina Manzel about to die, which is how it originally was. Dina Manzel killed herself out. This is why the British Von Massey moment is so iconic because she literally is like losing her mind a little bit, you know, like she's like, I'm this new, I'm changed, changed, And that's why it's nominated for Best Live Performance by a Woman

at the last Coultures Culture Awards. Thank you, brand I wanted to touch on that, Joe Kim, would you you sort of become an honorary guest on the episode? Would you like to stay for I don't think so, honey. Do you have anything to get off your chest? Or do you want to wait while we do it and then maybe decide at the end? Okay, well I have that. Basically,

what you need to know everyone at home is two things. One, I don't think so, honey, is a one minute segment that we do on every episode of Lost Cultures, which is sort of a minute long period for us to just sort of bowen. What would you say if you could make a noise that simplifies I don't think, so honey? What is it that? Yeah? And so that's like that.

And also you need to know another thing, which is that I decided on my topic, I don't think so honey, and then Jill Kim seconds later dragged a very similar topic. He was like, I don't think so what are you gonna do. I don't think so honey bees. I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna do this. Something else is

Matt Rogers. I don't think so many time starts now, I don't think so honey Insects that bite, yes, it includes bees, but this also encompasses the the very very rude and not offsided biting insect, which is the horse

fly which was dragging the girls to hell. Today we were shooting a scene that takes place at Ta Spoiler, and we were down by the harbor, and let me tell you, the horse flies were out to night and they were out to bite, namely the cast of Fire Island, the ankles, at the ankles, the knees, the shins, sometimes in the neck. Really tough stuff. Also turning too, the bees. We don't need them. I don't think so honey bees that we need you, because a lot of people are

out here saying, well, you know, we need bees. It's like you dig a little bit, you go on the internet for two seconds. Why do you need bees? You need him for corn? Guess what I don't like. I don't like corn. I don't need corn. I don't need anything that goes in looking them one way, it comes out the same, unless it's a dick. The dick should go in looking one way, come out looking the exact same.

No poop, I don't make a minute. So we have something factially raw, which is that if bees were to die off, we would just need to eat be eating more corn because other flowering vegetables would not. No, no, no, you got the quarantine. Right, Oh, I'm sorry. Then I got the corn. You got the quarantine. I'm sorry. My sources tell me that of the crops that we eat would die out and it would be die but it

would not be chemistry. It would not be that's we still got corn, Baby, we still got I said I could, I could live off of corn, and you two queen said no, I actually don't like corn, which is shocking. And there was a scene the other day where I was given a prop bag and my character had bought a lot of corn, and I handed it back. I said, my character wouldn't do this, and what you were really saying?

Then the prop back. They gave the prop back back and they said you'd better take this, and they said you better take this. You're to take this prop. Well that was a brave one. Well I'm saying is they've been really a nuisance lately. I was I was potentially gonna do it. I don't think so, honey, butterflies, it's just good pr because they're at the end of the day,

just as disgusting as of insects as others. Why do we give them a free pass because they're they're they have about our aesthetic, which is beautiful, but according to who, like, according to what aesthetic, according to what you know what, you would have done this. No, it's fine. I'm just saying, but you're being specific. You're saying bugs that bite, spotterflies don't bite. Bugs that bite. I mean, like it's just

and here's the thing. It's like they say, like, oh, don't bother the bee, don't wave the bee, then it won't bite you. I wasn't doing anything. I wasn't doing anything. I was minding my own business. I was actually doing my job today, Thank you very much. Say that. I don't think Sonny, Well, lucky us because we have we have time tonight, and this is bowing things. I don't think so many a time starts now. I don't think so many high fives. Open palm hand contact is very

aggressively heterosexual. To me. The only queer way to have hand contact with someone is to enter lock your fingers. Am I right? Or am I fucking right? No more high fives, Queer people. If you see each other, if you want to congratulate each other, trumph and somethings share a moment together, do something else, look, make eye contact, hold each other's faces in your hands, and say, wow, good job, I'm proud of you. Not high five. None

of that. We've been fucking fourth grade. Remember the day that you discovered what a high five was and you thought you were the coolest fucking person in the world. Those days are long gone. You're an old person now. You're at least forty five years old. If you listen to this podcast, that's the median age of this team. Told just kidding, I just made that up, But high fives. Stop it. If you high five someone again, please live in some shame that you have adopted straight culture into

your life. If you are straight, please start to clear your hand contact going forward and that's one minute. Two things, the mean age of listeners of this podcast. Do you is this real? I guess? And the second thing is this is a direct drag on me. Someone that high five Bowen today as a bit and I and I and that's what inspired by I don't think so, honey and I. But it was a bit and I knew it was it because you don't. We don't high five.

We do not. And that's that's this is the thing is that queer people are queering have queered that already. The people who remain high fivers, I go, what what? What pain are you holding onto? Yeah? You're so right, thank you. And also in the year of Our Lord one where it's covid oh no, no, no, no, no, not high five keep to the elbow. I also, I will say I don't like the elbow thing either, because I feel like it's like a comment on the fact

that we can't high five. And it does bring me back mentally, you know what I mean, Like if we're gonna bump elbows, I'm like, oh God, I didn't need this, And now I just remember that we can't shake hand exactly, but like you can, but you can you can't get vaccinated. I'm like Nikki. I'm like Nikki. Okay, restaurant, you would do a great one. I think if you, if you have something on your mind, you know you would be like we've we've been grasping. I listened to your podcast

every week. This is Kibosters. I don't think would you like to start? Would you do another? Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready. This is Joel kim Boosters. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey. Photo dumps, Okay, do not put me in a photo dump. Okay, I am apprised to be one. I am not going to appear in a photo dump next to a landscape shot that you thought was artistic but were too ashamed to put on your grid. Sir, I do will not be side by side with a meme A meme no, not

me and a meme. No No, I will not. I will be on the grid. I will be front and center because I have put in the world. Honey, I don't think so honey, photo dumps. You sound gross. You sound fecal nature, fecle in nature. You sound like something that goes in the toilet. And that's what you are. Photo dumps. You are something that goes in the toilet. Because I have never scrolled through a photo dump and

enjoyed myself. I have never gone on that journey and gotten to the end and said that was worth my time. Stop putting photo d on Instagram. Respect yourself, respect me, and respect everyone's time. That's one minute. This is a true master of the form. For me, it's the word dump. That's what I object to. And I believe you know it's been so it's not the concept. So even if someone were to post a photos no, but you're saying, like all of it is, I think the content is

bad too. Yeah, you know it's intentionally it's you're it's supposed to be. It's like intentionally ironic. It's it's too much of a wink. I don't think at any given time there's ten photos that haven't been posted to Grid by themselves that are worthy of Grid. And if it's the sixth thing and a photo dump, it's still Grid. And that's humiliating. And I would hate to be seventh and Grid. And this is I'm saying this as someone who's done this before, but I just called him a

bunch of photos. I would never call him my photos are a bunch of photos. Here's a slide show. I think I'm showing my age a little bit. I think I am. I think I think my adherence to the grid and so of the specialness of the grid is my thirty three all the time on this podcast, because can I say something, We are in our thirties. We're in our thirties. Like people were saying the other day, did you watch the v M A S. This is a culture podcast. One of the music second biggest night

happened the other night. No, I didn't watch it. We didn't watch so sorry, no I didn't. I don't know who they are. I don't know who the girls are. Some of them, we know some of them, don't we. There are a lot of people who are putting x's where vowels should be in their names and now we said and now we said it, and I don't like it. Okay, okay, okay, all right, in their names, just in their names. Yes, let's say this. This has been a real culture catch up.

It really went in directions I didn't expect. And that's that's what makes for the best culture catch up. That's what the beautiful podcast episodes that we had our friend join us, our friend who really let's just we were that and I were very earnest with each other up top about about our experiences on this movie and just

complimenting each other. We have to I think it is very It is very and we went intowards if we did not say that Joel Kim Booster number one, number one the call sheet wrote this movie, eping this movie, making decisions, creative decision rerunning scenes with this uh, you know, as as we're shooting and starring in the film, and then every scene I I tell I told him that I've talked to you about this so much throughout this process, I go, he's really done something incredible to Kim, Joel

Kim bosh, He's written this movie that I don't think anyone I know could have done. We're very excited, We're very excited. We're so proud and grateful and we're so thankful that he brought us onto this. And you know what happened earlier today, which I think would actually be a good cap on the pod is we started broke out into a gorgeous harmony on a song will sing right now, but before we say, I want to say I saw I watched impeachment and I thought it was

pretty good. Okay, and then now it's a complete culture catch up. Okay everyone, and a one and a two. Goodbye you, Goodbye to everything that I do. You're the one of one thing that I tried to hold on to,

the one Goodbye you, Goodbye to everything that I knew. Well, You're the one I love, the one thing that I tried to hold on to, the one thing that I'm trying to hold Not for more of that from Essen, a spirit Mosha branch now celebrating its twentieth annivers Wow, we need her on the pottat her on the pot. Bye