Spectacular: 200 (The 200th Episode Spectacular Part Two)

But I T L D R. Boone forgot his charger to his computer and now his computer is dead as Marilyn Monroe, and we can barely even do the podcast tonight. We had to we had to figure out how to use a zoom That's okay, zoom interface, we should the zoom interface we're using and listen, that's us both growing and changing and learning new ways to record, learning new ways. And we have to apologize to you, the listener, the reader. We were a little buzzed. That's fine, and that's fine, um,

thank you for listening to the chaos. That was the first part of our two part two hundredth episodes Spectacular, where we count down the top two hundred culture moments in culture history. We Matt made us a cocktail um which, in this loose definition is a red Bull and vodka. I did. I literally kept sort of referring to it as a cocktail. It was a Red Bull vodka. But here's the tail. I'm yeah. I leaned on it for us and we only finished about half of those drinks

and we were flippy FILOPPI yeah loosao. I felt. Really you can listen back to it. You have the audio. We're slurring through the episode, the pacing. We just have to quickly say, Matt and I really thought we could count down all two hundred things in under two hours. Can you believe that that is something that we thought was logistically feasible, us saying two hundred things, all giving them like some sort of cultural do like speaking about them a little bit, and getting to the end. No way,

No way. This just shows that we have a lot to learn about podcasting. We have so much to learn, and we thank you for being there with us on the way to grow, on the way to grow, On the way to grow. And if this episode were to have a title, it would be called on the Way to should we call this episode this two part episode um two D spectacular? Yes, just those two words two hundred spectacular part one in part two two? Well? Or should we say? And I always feel it's good to

say in the title what the episode is. So maybe it's top two hundred moments of culture spectacular. Yes, I like that, or two hundred the two hundred colon the two hundred greatest moments in culture parentheses our two hundred episode. I love that, And I really am in no position to push back on whatever you propose, I I do, I really do. I love that. So it's two hundred

colon The top two hundred moments in culture history. Parentheses are two hundred of part one, and we have we oh yeah, we need the word spectacular in There are two D episodes spectacular part one. Should it be this in parentheses? Hear me out in caps spectacular colon two hundred colon The top two hundred moments in pop culture history parentheses are two hundred episode Part one, Part one. So the very like, it's very like themed to the to the number two hundred. The double colon is the

only thing that's tripping me up. It is not done. I think it's spectacular colon and then what do you say, m dash the top two hundred moments in culture history parentheses are two hundred spectacular part one close parentheses. Okay, yeah, alright, that's really good epic. That's like amazing movie. It's yes, it gives me like Disney Vines where it's now the titles are just in word and it's an adjective like

Tangled Frozen. You know, well, yes, it's I feel that when I say it's like a Basil Erman movie, I actually immediately understand that he's sort of called many of his movies by like one word or two words, Rouge Australia. What I mean is it has the grand of a Bosler movie. It totally it stylistically says Basil Erman to me. And that's all I really want. Like in Romeo and Juliet, the and is plus and that's how you know it's huge and that's how that that's his little signature. And

mulan Rouge has an exclamation point. Yes in Australia is in like big white letter. It's amazing. It's an amazing fun And then, um, what else grape Gatsby has Carrie Mulligan Mulligan special. I never, I never, I never saw it. You know what's unfortunate for Carrie Mulligan what she didn't make the list? She didn't she did not make the list. And you know what's interesting about Carrie Mulligan. I sometimes think and feel that you used to have as your

Twitter bio. I am as pretty as Carrie Mulligan. Please can firm you want to know something? It's still my Tinder bio and I'm still on Tinder. Isn't that like you're still on the very straight tender. I would say it's pretty gay, is it? Well, I guess I just mean like to me, like, yeah, it's like it's like through the male gaze. It's like very much like a breeding ground for like that straight guy who has a picture at Machu Pichu. Yes, you know what I mean

at Machu Pichu down Boots. It's actually really culture number twenty the gays down Boots. Um. You know it's funny you get you get all types there. Yeah, I would imagin types of queers. International. Really it's really an international site. Um. And speaking of international international, we have for you a list not just of the top one hundred best things

in pop culture. But it's two hundred because this is famously as you may have in for our two episode or a second part of what is a two episode spectacular celebration. And today what do we have today? We have the top one moments in culture history. So we we finished our first half of this. Number one oh one was, of course Furbies. Yeah, Furbies. We touched on how furbies were a real toy that sort of stormed

the moment and definitely took center stage. And those girls were absolutely in stores, but then they were as soon as they were in, they were gone because they were selling like hotcakes. And we tease this at the end of the last episode, the last the first half of this, we said, number one is going to blow your socks off, and you will have no choice but to agree No. Number one is culture and you're going to have to agree on that one. You're gonna have to concur on

that one. You're gonna have to um not in approval on that one. Yes, you're gonna have to coastline and that one. Yeah, And so what do you say we get keep going with our top one hundred. This is unbelievable. I can't believe this unbelievable Top one hundred moments of culture. Yes, yes, okay, Matt, let's kick it off with number one. Alright, Number one hundred is Tia and Tamara Maori. We all remember these twins, sister sisters, the sister sisters themselves. I got my own mind,

do my own stuff in my own time. Oh come on. And also, not only were Tia and Tamara amazing, but this also brought to us the Harry Harry who you know, some people they knew prior to this. This is really the culture that influenced her. Us to Jack. Oh yes, I mean Jack. You got to see her full glory and she built up the goodwill and her time, and sister sister, I feel like for our generation, for us, you know, stupid millennials. But now we get to follow her on Twitter and see all of her tweets and

they're so funny. And but you think you can textualize that against Jack Harry on sister sister, I feel that, And you know, actually, what I'm realizing is that Tia and Tamara are number one hundred and culture. Really, Jack Harry actually deserves her spot here. So we're actually gonna call it this rule number one hundred sister sister, moment moment, sorry, not rule. This is famously something else moment number one sister, Sister, It's not just and tomorrow, although we love tomorrow on

the road to marry on the rail. Alright, So this is an example of us taking too long on one item of culture and we have to keep going. So Number bowen is Briefe by Taylor Swift amazing breath Now, can you elaborate on what makes the song so amazing? Well, this song is amazing because it's really it's just guitar. There might be some percussion on it, but it's her. It's a duet with Colby Kela on the beautiful song about breaking up, growing from the breakup, growing from separation.

It's a gorgeous song. I really love it from Fearless and from Fearless arguably her best album. Well that's an argument that we could have, but you know, it's her one of two albums that is one best album at best at boubum. The Grammys to sort of assign value on award is very kind of capitalist of you. Anyway, moving on to number it is of course Breathe too, am by An analyx now if I might, I just

didn't take the floor here. This song was good before the Code Black episode of Grey's Anatomy, and then it became culture because of the Code Black episode of Grey's Anatomy. Thank you very much. When Mr Kyle Chandler first said, exploded ass all over that hospital, which at the time was called Seattle Grace has now got other names. But honey, when Miss Meredith Gray had to fly all the way back because of the explosion of Miss Chandler, holy hell.

And you know the soundtrack of that moment was an analyc singing breath Breathe, just breathe amazing. Okay, Matt's what's number number is? Of course Breathe by Faith Hill. I mean, incredible song, the number one Breathe. It's it edged out in and now like and Taylor Swift by a Hair. I would say this song Breathe is It's really iconic because it's got that sort of thing a song does where it starts with the same lyric as it ends with.

If you gets me that the course is explosive. It's my favorite kind of country song where she just lets it go in there. Hard song to sing secretly, hard song to because of the suppossed that part. It's like a transition into your head voice from like a belt. Also not for nothing, but Faith Hill epic in that video which she's in the dress kind of dancing around the like, um, what's it like? The like is it a field? It's not a field, it's like a It's like, um,

what the hell is that's? It's like a stone guard a stone field? Is that what they? I don't know, but miss faith Hill she was. She knew because it was on her call sheet, all right, and I don't know. Was it the top Breathe or Breathe by Michelle Branch and one and only ron Com movie trailer song. It's unfortunately the best brief. We we spoke too soon. If I just bread fill the space between, oh know, everything

is all right? Wow. Hotel Paper a huge record. She had many huge records, such as The Spirit Room, such as you know Hotel Paper. Hotel Paper was a room for squares her or was that John May the male Michelle Brand? I get people with guitars mixed up. Um, but yes, she was iconic, and we just really quickly talk about Michelle Branch wrote The Spirit Room when she was seventeen, like come on, Billie Eilish, come on Lord vibes, come on Lord vibe, come on, Lord Mind, come on,

Lord Mind. Thank you. I've mind more like Lord Mind, which you need to write an amazing I'll met seventeen Michelle Branch breathe one amazing song. Another song where you just belt and then you gotta pull back. Oh, is it incredible? And also we don't hear enough covers of this. Kelly Clarkson, I'm looking at you, Kelly Oki all right, and so we're moving on to number ninety five. Talked about an amazing young woman who had an impact on the culture. It's Taylor Momson Ingrinch. Oh, she was the

most amazing Cindy Lou. And to think of what you are doing when you are assigned the role of Cindy Lhu, an iconic woman in culture, and to bring her to the screen and do her just justice. I mean, I'm giving a standing ovation. I'm giving a standing ovation. Speaking of Hayte the Hill, she ended up singing a faith Hill song where she Christmas written by Ms. Mariah, which Matt Rodgers wastes no time in teaching the children about

that fact. I always teach the kids that whenever they come to one of my performances, I make sure to tell them. You know, Mariah Carey actually she wrote where are You Christmas? And Faith Hill sang it, and then Taylor Momson, I'm sorry, but acted it because she acted the hell out of this role. She acted the hell out of this role. When Cindy l who is supposed to be sad, you are sad. And then she grew up to play a mean teenager in Gossip Girl. Wow,

she really she was a versatile one. And then of course she was in the band pretty Reckless, Pretty Reckless. Never forget a Perez Hilton favorite. Oh my god, that two thou seven two eight, What a time. It was Taylor Momson's peak and we sent her a lot of Now, speaking of this film, number ninety four is where are You Christmas? From the film which we have discussed, which we have discussed, well, we should actually make the distinction. Grinch is the title of the animated version of it.

It's my title, It's Matts title. But the full title of the Jim Carey Classic, Jim Carrey, Christine Baranski Classic, Taylor Momson classic is how the grin stool Christmas, right, I just shortened it from my own purposes to um. But this song is amazing. I mean, you know, it's about a young girl sort of confronting the fact that as she gets older, the meaning of Christmas changes, and sort of as a comparison to life and how as you get older, you know things, they don't lose their meaning,

but they change their meaning. And it's about the unknown and what's going to happen as you grow older. If Christmas changes, will I change to? What else will change? A beautiful song, a beautiful sentiment, and only the number one songwriter Mariah Carey could have written it. Absolutely, And you know it's a beautiful, gorgeous lyric. What my life is changing, I'm rearranging, rearranging amazing. You see it, Yeah, you see it? Thank you. Now let's go to ninety three.

Number ninety three is Jim Carrey as Grinch and the film Grinch. This performance was culture Christmas, culture christ this culture. He was giving you everything. He was giving you slapstick, he was giving you some voice comedy. Absolutely, he was giving you hours in the makeup chair, painful hours in the makeup chair. And I'm sorry, but if Meryl Streep is going to get nominated for as many Oscars as

she has. Where is Jim Carrey's nomination for Grinch? And I'm being sort of you know, your come on, you know, silly about this, but also in a real way, where is even one Oscar nomination for Jim are and his many solid performance sexism in Hollywood? I think it's sexism towards green Bean esque comedic actors, and it has to stop right now, say it's sexism towards white male actors. It's sexism towards white male actors. To have Jim Carrey go nomination list. He deserved a nomination for a tune

of Sunshine. I want to say he deserved nominations for the following films Eternal Sunshine, The Seminal Grin, the Mask, No Liar, Liar, Okay, Truman, Yes he should have at least four Thank you queen okay for Truman Show, for the queers to love Truman Show. That's how you know it's a real work, real piece of work. This was a real work. Now we have the next one here, and this is one of my favorite rules of all. Number ninety two, The birth of Yang Important moment this.

I wanted to take this moment off the left, and I said, you have to leave it on because the birth of bowen Yang was a moment in culture. We would not have both. Can everyone that's listening right now understand you you don't the fact that you are given bo Yang and you have to understand that and stop being so stupid because the bow and Yang is a gift in this world and he has come to this amazing place and he's going very far, and the birth

of bow and Yang is a moment in culture. And you sitting at home understand that your life would be completely different without and you would be listening to this right now. No, you would be listening to this. And you all know that Matt Rodgers is the joy is not my son. And all this, especially when it comes to this post, this brings us culture number. Rule of culture number. That don't impress me much. What was this? This was a Shia Twains I'm not I'm so sorry,

no Twain song. I got her visually mixed up with faith um and I'm so sorry. This also kind of took This video also took place kind of like in the desert. Yes, Trug remember and the Leopard, but I mean Shnaia. We're not talking about Shania now, because Shania now is a little is a little wild. But we're talking about the song that don't impress them me much, or the moment that don't impress them You'll notice that I wrote here that don't impress much. I didn't say

a song. I didn't necessary necessarily say a video. I said that don't impress me much. And that's because that don't impress on me much. I believe it's a movement beyond just the song I think that don't impress them me much became something like I don't think so, honey. You know it's actually rot a culture Number thirteen that don't impress on me much is the original I don't

think so, honey. And it's such an amazing time to announce bone and I will be doing a show called that don't impress on Me much, and it will not happen. We're not doing it. We're not doing especially, not a thing. Um. I gotta say. The reason I love that don't impress them me much is it's an answer. So many times in life people are put like putting forth questions yes, and it puts the onus on you to come up

with the answer. But the question is so your Brad Pitt and the answer that don't impress me, and it's it actually is more about It says more about you than it does about the other person. Because this other person could be doing something impressive. It just don't impressive. And so honestly, whenever I see anyone stepping up to me and trying to give me grief, I just say, I look at them in the eyes, I maybe pat them on the shoulder, and I say that don't impress them.

And you should try it at home. You try it next time your parents are getting at you. Try it next time your boyfriend hasn't cleaned the dishes, or maybe if he does clean the dishes, just say that don't impress on me much. It's the original. I don't think it is. Move on to number ninety, which is Obama election. Who could down? Who could forget? But there were two, right, well, there was two Obama elections. And I think that that

this moment a moment of culture. Number ninety Obama election is when you really understand his election as as less of a moment and as a singular cultural shift and event I see you know what I mean. I just feel that Barack Obama is an amazing man and culture and he had to be on the list. You have to be on the list. So when you say Obama Obama election, you mean the election and re election of Obama. Yes,

the election into the cultural consciousness of Obama. Yes. Um, what I'm really saying is the two election that I'm talking about, the moment when he got I mean, you can't beat that. No. Do you remember where you were? I was in the East Village. I remember people in New York City running out into the streets cheering, and I was like, this is beautiful. And I had just moved there, like you. I'm as an Union Square and

I remember being so elated that he was elected. And I remember running down the halls and it was n y U. So everyone was heading to Union Square in Square and there were these like every other like dorm room. There was like one conservative kid like sitting in his bedroom like crying, like because his parents had obviously scared the daylights out of him that like if Obama got elected, they were gonna lose other money or whatever. Well, it's wonderful that it was so funny the pendulum swung the

other way in such a crazy destructive manner. No, eight years later, Well, here's the thing. If you remember how good you felt when that happened, put that energy towards November. Biden to the White House. Joe, we love Joe Biden, I said. I said to myself. I was like, you know what words I don't want to hear anymore. We need to restore the soul of America. I'm like, this is the most garbage, like nothing of a like placation I've ever heard. This is a battle for the soul

of America. But which is another way of saying to me that like, uh, this is not our country, right that, like anytime something terrible happens when it comes to Trump and or racism or both, it's like this isn't our kind. It's like, no, this is our country. And you're saying that we're restoring the soul of America is like kind of not to use this word. It is like that's a similar type of gas line where you're like this, this is not the America. I know that we're better

than this. It's like maybe we're not. Like, first of all, let's break it down into three parts, right, restore. The word restore means to return to or like sort of like uh, rebuild in a similar fashion to what we've experienced. So that to me is saying we'd like to return to something. And I think we've been establishing in the past couple of years that America is not something to

be returned to, it's something to progress into. But okay, so then when you start restore the soul, the soul to me is a dog whistle because it's like a little bit slightly religious imagery. And also it says something about like the soul, like the ancestor like within. Like again, it's this like kind of bullshit that reverts back to a prior and again, this is not what American needs to do. American needs to grass and move forward. And then you say of America, which gives people this like

false sense of duty. So really in every single part of that slogan is bullshit. And um anyway, so we love Joe, Thank you Joe Biden free um and anyway, So anyway, yes, number ninety is the Obama election. I just want to say a point. I really quickly just we blasted through the Grinch series, the Grine trio. Christie Branski did not make the list. She did not make the list. She she never looked hot. Her hottest actress

in Hollywood at the time. I believe she was on Maxim, So I believe she was on Maxim, g Q, Vogue, all of it. She was. She had the hottest woman titles um, but she did not make the list. Who did make the list is number eighty nine. This is when Nick Jones got adult hot. Remember this, I remember that's talking about this. When was adult hot for you? I think it was around the time when he was

releasing the song Jealous. It was a realization for me that not only was Nick jonas a man now, but he was a hot man and I, unfortunately was powerless to whatever was going on. And it's that kind of thing where it's like, what he really was a kid one day and then was not the next, and it was it was it was really like a quantum leap.

There was no transition, yeah, because it's jarring, right. It's sort of like one minute he's like a cute kid in the band, and then it turned you turn around and he's like not only like sort of a sex object, but like explicitly sexual and performing sort of his own sexuality for gay men in a way, which is like it was such an assault, but one that I welcomed.

I I welcomed it. Two, there was a very interesting discourse around when there was a photo of him on some yacht wearing short swim trunks and like looking sort of thick in the thighs and everyone saying daddy, daddy, daddy, and everyone just being like, wait a minute, this is not like thick, like or people calling thick and people calling him daddy. So it's like we're not there quite yet, and we're and I think that's when the term thick

got a little bit, you know, common deer. Let's say, So, so you think he wasn't actually thick and people were calling him thick? Yeah, I gotta say, that's that's my thought. I think in that picture he what happened was he was wearing a two small bathing and he did look like a little love handily. It's a it's an optical illusion, yes, in a way that I will say, understanding that the bathing suit was too small turned me on in a

way I can't even describe. We're not saying that it wouldn't turn anybody on it was appropriating the word thick. I didn't say that. I didn't say the word appropriate. It's just um, then what are you trying? The word got started to get moneyed a little. I see, I see. So you're saying, save thick for thick, save thick for thick. Okay, I understand. Regardless of Nick jonas Um made the list, made the list. He made the list here and let's go to number eight eight. This this was a moment culture.

This is the hairstyle of the Rachel. Huge moment. I mean, women everywhere were so taken by Jennifer Anderson as Rachel and her hairstyle that they said, I want to get the Rachel. I have a question for you, gone, did the Rachel have to exist in order for the Karen haircut to exist? You know the Karen haircut. It's very ka sort of like yeah, that kiss and sort of like who called it like like a waterfall in the front and scissors in the back? Yes, um that I

think Sudy said that one time. She said that that hairstyles like a waterfall in the front, like a front bank that's like a cascade, and knives in the back like dangerous porcafine back. I don't think that one had to walk so the other could run. Um, but I do think that they occupy a similar space where they're so iconic they earn a name, and so I think they're iconic sisters. But the Rachel was at a moment and here's the thing, does the Karen still sort of exist?

I feel like the symbol for like like in names when someone is being a Karen, or when it's like like you have Patrick from SpongeBob acting a Karen and they put on the keke Oslin here on Patrick. Yes they do. Yeah, Okay, so that's actually really interesting. Um. I feel my thing is like they're both asymmetrical. Rachel and the Karen are both asymmetrical, and they're both like bad and they're both they're both wild and they both got the highlights, and it's just their similarities. It's a

really really do share a family. And now I am fully laughing thinking about the Karen hairstyle and how really stupid it is. I had an art teacher who had that and it was just like, do you think No, I'm not gonna say anything crazy. I'm just saying it's like it's almost like someone who is toying with our sexuality a little bit. It's like sort of like putting on a hairstyle that's like audacious. Listen, you can make the argument that to have a Kiren is to queer

hairstyle a little bit. It definitely is something. It's queering hair in a way you wouldn't get that if you weren't, if you weren't by nature a little queer, and that

you wanted to try out weird things, you know. Bell Hooks has described queerness as wanting to try out weird things, to try out weird things, and that is what the Karen embodies and what There's a difference between having the Karen hair and being a Karen and behind we should Yes, and Karen's come in all shapes and sizes and genders, but karen haircut is very specific. Yeah, and it is

a little queer, I would agree. And I also think it's actually really our number eighty seven, which is describing things as cool. Now, I have always thought about this, Yes, where did cool come from? And when did it start? I wonder did they were they sing in the seventies, sixties, fifties, Where did but do you remember where you were when you learned the word cool and what I meant. I

think that honestly, it's one of those words. It kind of cool kind of reminds me of like the word sucks, where it's like I knew I wasn't supposed to use it until it was a certain age, like you weren't supposed to use no. I think that I was, But it's like it kind of reminds me of that same thing where it's like I knew I was. I knew I had like my own opinions on the world when I was able to be like, I think that's cool.

Like when I could describe something that I deemed to my taste as cool, I was like, Wow, I have like sort of ownership over my own opinions, and you know what I'm saying. I would say that this moment describing things as cool as really an individual moment from every day. It comes for different people at different times, exactly. I don't think we have to track it back to

when people started using it. I just feel like when you discover for yourself what the word cool means and that you know how to use it, like that is a cultural moment. I just think, think about it. Like in order to describe it's almost like so the word cool would mean um on the on the sort of

side of being cold. And to describe that as something that is good or valuable that is so interesting to me, Like it had to start somewhere like, hey, that's cool, Like it's not hot, although you would call something hot to say good, isn't it interesting? It's very interesting. We don't talk about thermo political things in this. We don't talk about the political things in this ONEK you do you remember where you were? I had a kid in

the fourth grade when I just moved to America. His name was Shane Collins, and he he was putting forth the claim that he had invented the word tight, like using tight. The word tight was invented um right outside of Bush Gardens, um in Tampa Bay in the year nineteen seventy nine, thank you. And it's important that we say that it was invented by a m kid named John David. John David, And it was said to his two friends, Trevor and Tyler, and he was talking thing

about the tigers at Bush Gardens. He was he was saying, though, these tigers are tight, and actually, um, there was an earthquake and no one was hurt, but the culture was changed. Was there an actual earthquake that registered? There was a sort of cultural earthquake. There was, And even though there was a cultur rollers quake, it did not make the list. It did not make the list. Words tight did not make the list. Now number eighty six, I don't know

about I love this. I put this on. It is Matt Rogers wearing a harness on game show, a harness over a shirt, and that is queer. Actually was had a lot to do with me not wanting to appear shirtless on camera. It um, but I'm happy that sort of you know, the harness was at least something. It looked good. You know, I've never really been like a harness type of you don't have to be. No one's forcing it. I've worned, I've worn it a couple of times. Doesn't it doesn't feel right on me. But for in

that moment, I'll do a jock strap. Oh, we everyone loves everyone should try to wear a drop strap. I think it's great. Try sleeping in one. Oh, it's really make you feel fabulous, make you feel fabulous. The moment of Matt Rogers wearing a harness on Game Show that I think is wonderful that it all culminated towards was the gift that's being widely used now of Matt, which is him saying um used widely used. It's you saying I'm attracted to you, let's have let's have sexual intercourse.

Oh it's I'm horny, I'm so horny, let's go have sexual intercourse. So that actually was a note from Quimby because I said, I'm so horny, let's go fuck, and they said, hey, we have to take out the word fuck. And I was like, Okay, well I don't want to say I'm so horny, let's go have sex. So I was like, let's say I'm so horny, let's go have sexual intercourse, which I think is what adds value to that. Thank you. I had to save it. I would have

preferred to have just said and that have been the clue. Anyway, watch Game Show. If you don't know what we're understanding, If you don't understand what we're talking about, watch please watch Games Show. Please go seek at this gift. I think you can use it in so many album Get this gift. Get this gif um. Okay, So number eighty five is something I can agree with. It is Stockard Channing as Rizzo in Greece. There are worse things I could do, Then put Stockard Channing on the list. She

is iconic in this movie. Huge, in this movie, I mean Rizzo, what an iconic character in film and musical theater, in culture. Look at me, I'm Sandra d like the classic bullying song. She is so good at being mean and like cold and removed but remaining like a ball. Yes, she is one of a kind. And Stockard sang there are worse things I could do. She's sang there are worst things I could do. She gave it body, she she knew how to sing, and she was acting first.

And let's just say other people have tried to sing. There are worse things I could do, and they've done well, but it's not the Stockard, and I guarantee it's one of those things where we will never hear a version like that. And that's not necessarily because it was she got the best voice of all time or whatever, but

she's just iconically musically acting that song huge. It's a perfect marriage, double helix of acting and singing, and she got a hickey from KNICKI famously, famously let's keep going, Let's keep going. Number eighty four. This is a moment in culture, the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror. I mean that is culture. You cannot get closer to a cultural moment that deserves its spot at number eighty four. I mean, come on, it soared to number eighty four on this.

I can't really think of more iconic theme park culture than that damn building that has been struck by lightning, and inside are the screams of people plummeting an elevator, and iconic merging of story and theme park attraction, iconic merging of um, what's his name? Sterling? Sterling's voice, that iconic voice that I could listen to that voice another dimension. I heard something. I think Rod Slings got a hot voice.

I mean I can see that. I think he was hot. Honestly, it's that kind of hot voice where it's like it's a little bit nerdy, And that's how you know it would sound really like like hot and horny during sex, because like, I don't think a masculine voice on the other end is always with a way to go. Sometimes, like you want to hear someone going for it wouldn't be tough like this. Oh no, oh no, I don't like that. Actually, no, don't say my name is hardest on game shoe. Oh my god, Oh my god. What

does that sound like that you're doing? It sounds like it kind of sounds it sounds like it's some some character. It sounds like, okay, that like that, rod stop Okay. Number eighty three a huge moment in culture. Hillary Duff, Let's say it together. I'm sorry, Hillary Duff, Lizzie McGuire and more. You know what I love about Hillary Duff. She will not stay silent because I remember when covid first broke out, she would She just posted a bunch

of stuff on Instagram stories. Remember this, everybody, She was like, Hey, are you fucking idiots going out to bars? Stay the fuck home. She like, she has the shortest views and she's not afraid to let it light up. I mean, one of the only celebrities that hugged us at Vulture Fest of her own volition. Also iconically on Younger she is Lizzie McGuire. She was the biggest pop star of like those Disney girls at the time. When she came at she said so yesterday and she said, come Clean

Clean the iconic theme song to the Hills. Oh my god, wait now the Hills was Yes. Um started a feud with Faye Dunaway when she was what fifteen years old? Yeah? What have you done today? What have you done today? What were you doing at fifteen? Not? Certainly not starting a feud with the old Hollywood icon Fade Dunaway. Yeah, certainly not and also not for nothing. But she was carrying on feuds with Faye Dunaway and Lindsay Lohan at

the same time. That that is iconic. That is literally her saying, I want the biggest mess that's in her seventies and the biggest of mess that's my young under fifteen ass age. Let's start a feud with Start a feud, bitch, and I'll still end up on a premium cable sitcom, Yes and Multicam, and you will still listen. You will still listen to my dance records. Have you ever been on Molly while Coming? While Come Clean is playing a remix of Coming? Have I ever been on Molly while

Come Clean? As everybody else I have been around you when this happens, when it's unbelievable, it's safe to dance on masks again, and you are able to maybe be on ecstasy. Come come clean, Coming clean, Coming clean. When she goes with that part apart from somewhere, she goes, I'm coming Hilary Duff came on the record and we all just kept dancing. I'm sorry, just the beginning that song. Let's go back back to the beginning, and then she goes back to the sun stars all alive, so stupid.

Hillary Duff is telling us to go back to the beginning of time, and that's how she starts her song about love. That's that's an acid trip. It's a mom it's it's it's it's rolling, it's every drug experience. Let's go back back to the beginning, back to the sun, the stars all aligned, A huge song, a poet and I mean so yesterday, the metamorphosis the album Huge, Come on, I'm actually like shaking, shaking um and number eighty two will have me continue to be shaking. And that is

super based by Nicki Minaj. Iconically our origin story, iconically our origin origin story, matten Eyes origin story. As friends, our friendship is founded on in our identities as barbs. People forget that super Base really locked it in Song of the Summer. It was clearly the song of the Summer, and I remember hearing it and like checking in with you, like did you hear this one? Because it is deep in the album. It is a bonus track. It wasn't even on her album, it was it was a bonus

track or swild bonus track. Taylor Swift sang it on a radio show and Nicki Minaj credits Taylor Swift with the super Base moment, and that's an iconic moment in culture for Taylor Swift to say, I like the song super Bay, And then the world turned their attention to super Base and they had realized what Nikki had created on that one, which is I think the best pop wraps off of the past since two thousand as the century so far, esther esther, Dean hook hooks, and a

video that matched the sonic moment that Ice Motorcycle, are you getting the pink lepper body suit and all the guys in the peptobysmal pool. I mean, it's unbelievable, It's so good. It's a huge moment, a moment, a moment, a moment that was Nikki's beginning really um number eighty one, speaking of the ladies, good luck book in that stage, speak of Rihanna to Sierra, who could forget this Twitter fight?

Can you get into what you tell the story? This story is I don't know the specifics, but Sierra was on Fashion Police and the picture of Rihanna came on, and Sierra took umbrage with the fact that Rihanna has not been kind to her at certain award shows or events or concerts. Something She said she'd route to her restaurant, route to herd a restaurant even better. So Rihanna catches the wind of this and then tweets at Sierra, UM, I mean I mean my bad seeds and I forget

to tip you savage, and then Sierra said. Sierra said, I don't have time for this. I'm about to get on stage, and then Rihanna said the famous words more fatality words. Good luck booking that stage you speak of, I mean good luck booking that stage you speak of, just the word choice. I mean you can't beat that good luck booking that stage you speak And let's not gloss over the savagery of oh my bad seed, did I forget I forget to tip you because you must

have been the absolute waitress. Don't go on fashion please and talk about me. I didn't get in your business. Good luck booking that stage. You speak up. It's amazing, it's it's the most savage. You should have known that she was going to release a lingeree line called Savage Frenzy. And also, didn't she tell you that she was a savage? Didn't she tell you in that tweet that shook the standems before they were real, before stands, before stand culture

really took shape. Number eighty Michelle Williams and Anne Hathaway scenes and Broke Back Mountain. We're not going to talk about the men. Enough has been set, enough has been said, enough has not been said about the ladies have broke back Jack nasty, Jack nasty that scene Fish, There's really not much to be said. I mean, Anna Hathaway, I wasn't like We've talked about this on blank Check famously

David Simson and Griffin Newman's podcast. But that's like the Anne's first kind of Prestigi role after Princess Diaries, after Ellen enchanted. It was a surprise to see her doing something like this. Yes, and she's like Conican at that last phone call when she calls Heath up and tells him what happened to Jake, Joel and Hall. Unreal Michelle talk about Michelle. I mean, Michelle is amazing every frame

of this movie. She's incredible. And she has that amazing scene where she sees them kiss, totally silent reaction of that, and then the confrontation scene at the end of the movie when she says Jack Twiss, Jack nasty, you don't go up there to fish and she throws the plates and screaming, oh my god. I feel like they recreated this scene of her watching them kiss. In the new show Love Victor. Wow. And you know, Bowen and I have just watched, well, I watched every episode. Bow and

watched the last episode and was impressed. I was very impressed. I was also very stunned. That's true. But um, there's a moment at the end of the season that sort of calls back to Brokeback Mountain and I won't say what it is, but I will do this. I'm going to shout out the lead actress from Love Victor. Her name is Rachel Hilson. This girl is a talent, Yes, she is a talent and Bowen. You can even see I all I got were like maybe five minutes total with her, even like I don't even think you saw

her speak much. But no, I didn't see you speak much, but her acting it hit me like a ton of breakfast. She is a select She is so good. This I'm telling you like Love Victor and also Anna Ortiz is queen and everyone's good. And honestly, I liked Love Victor and I'll talk about it on another episode of the pod, but there's more to be said about it anyway. Okay, Number seventy nine, Taylor Swift turning around to see large crowd cheering. Now, this is a This is like a

common motif, and Matt's clapping. I'm clapping because it's what would we There would be so much less to enjoy in the world if Taylor Swift didn't turn around to

see crowds and look the way she looks. You wouldn't get the you know, sixth single off of the album music video that's just the concert footage, you know what I'm talking about, And all her albums she has the sixth single, Once the Cycle has died Down, she releases in a music video quote unquote that's just the concert footage, and half of it is just be a roll of her turning around to be surprised that the audience is there and smiling. Also, if you've ever seen her in concert,

she does still do it to an extent. Did she do a reputation tour. Reputation tour, she was kind of like in a moody, So she was famously in a mood during Reputation and she was not like necessarily looking around and smiling at the crowd, although you did get a few moments throughout that she was happy that we came, but mostly she was in like kind of a sour mood during reputation, um, which I think was the brand.

But then you know she was back to turning around and smiling during the Lover era, and um, I guess we're not getting a Lover tour. She is rescheduling it to next year. She was doing she was doing Lover festivals in different cities. I will be seeing that. I'll be because I loved Tay. And when she turns around to see a crowd, like she's surprised every single time and happy that everyone showed up, like it never happened before. That was brand culture for me. But what is the

seminal moment of it. We know it is her in the beginning of the after Welcome to New York, of course, turning around Peak Peek in that like teal sequined letter jacket, letterman jacket and just being like, oh my god, hi six people like Hue so at nine by the time she had gotten to that level, it's like she was turning around and like she was like but it was a little bit less like I'm shocked you came, and it was like, I'm so happy you guys are here.

It was that it was the white girl version of Michael Jackson popping up from the stage and people in like Budapest like fainting for like and like screaming for like,

you know, seven minutes straight. It's the white girl version of Beyonce popping up, rising from you know, a hydraulic system and everyone losing their minds as she glares at everybody in her beautiful, intense way, the white girl version of as Taylor Swift turning around over her shoulder being like, hey, y'ah, so glad you guys are And also this was also the really this is the beginning slash peek of iconic

Taylor Swift white girl stomp. Once she would sort of stop from one area of the stage to another, and that was the extent of the corio, and that was just kind of it. And then our reputation there was like actually a lot of dancing, but the white girl stomp was never more happening during tell her stuff behaviors on stage, chiefly her turning around to see a crowd

and being shocked that culture moment and culture. Let's move on this, and it is Marcia Cross on Desperate huge Brint camp I feel that this was the character that is most identifiable. I would say the visual like picture I have in my mind of Desper house Wives is of um Marcia Cross as Brie and the sort of energy I feel of what I remember it is, of course, but the image is Brive Anti camp In in a tight bun bringing a huge dish with Rex. Wow, that's

so funny that you think of the tight bun. I think of that like a little swoop like sort of miss Honey from the hair that she had that like suburban freak. She had that And for some reason the scene that I keep thinking back to it, there's several scenes that I think back to when I think of death for Housewives. But one of them is season two premier.

This is after Rex dies and she's just standing outside her house with like a huge dish or something, and the other wives scheme where they're like, whe are you okay? She they would want this, and they're like, no, we're okay. Do you need anything? She's like, well, what a waste? And she like throws away up giant dish and it's like, oh, Marcia Cross, that is the moment, Marcia Marcia Eva, I'm gonna give some props to Terry. I would give Terry props.

I would give Terry props. I mean Lynette's Gavo or Felicity, are we gonna give her props? I give them all props, but I don't give any of them as much props as Nicola. Nicola who offered to slap to the face while on set. I never forget that, and had to be electrocuted to die. She was electric well, she died like four different ways in an episode, but um, which was kind of iconic, to be honest with you. But yeah. Interestingly enough, when I was thinking about Desperate Housewives for

this list and I know you agree. I just felt it's Marcia. It's the Marsha Show. It's Marcia when she iconically screamed out in grief when she found out in the last episode that Rex had died of the first season.

The moment, the like pearl clutching moment. This was like back when Desperate House was was like the first scripted show to make a splash after like years and years of reality, right, And I remember, like the moment was that dinner party scene where she and Rex had just gotten into a fight, and then like they're all the couples are sharing funny stories about their significant others and then you know what I'm talking about, Rex cries when

he ejaculates, huge, unbelievable the clutch. It's actually real culture. Number nine when cry cries was clutch. And now we're gonna move on to number seventy seven, which is Monique and Mariah in the final scene of Precious. You know this writer, Jeffrey Fletcher is his name, won the Oscar for Adapted Screenplay for this film. And you one that disputes that you could win an Oscar for the scene the scene alone. Oh my god, they got Monique the Oscar. I mean, she won the Oscar walking in the door

with this one. And also Gabbarett is incredible in the incredible and Mariah is put some on miss White's come on, come on, miss White, come on, Miss Weiss. She really grounded the scene and the three of them were stunning. This was an incredible scene, one of the best scenes

I think, I'll say of this century. I have to I have to think that Mariah is aware of the diametric sort of opposite of her, Like she's getting such a grounded scene in like such a like the polar opposite in terms of a person from Mariah Carey, right, like a social worker. Yeah, who's just sitting there like hey, like all right. It's honestly weird though that she's It's it's interesting to see her capable of such a grounds.

It was amazing. And also to be honest with you, like you think no part of her is like tipped off by Monique that she should be bigger, you know what I mean. She really understands her function in the movie. And it's a great supporting performance. And you know that that whole moment is it's so vivid, it's so good. This scene is amazing, and you know, if you want to see actresses tearing it up, it is a hard story to watch, but it's also you know, I think

that's amazing. Um, precious, you must, you must, let's keep going. This is number when it was revealed and Frozen that it was about sisters and not man. This was iconic feminism because when you hear love in a Disney film, you think, oh, heterosexual couple, romantic, but no, this is the love of sisters. This is the love of sisters and it runs deep, and only the love of sisters could save them in the end. Actually, if you watch and remember I think you're Anna, I'm Alsta. Yes that

is true. But which I've thought of this many times. I would there be the Ana in some way? Why she just gets to live. I have not seen Frozen two. I should say Frozen too literally sucks and I say it on the record, Okay, but Anna feels like she's She's the one who's living the most life and Elsa's the one who's put upon, which I I'm fine with beings.

But Elsa has the incredible she has the incredible talent within and she has the unbelievable power of all the stars and all the weather and all the moon and the universe within her. And when she learns to let it free and control it, she is unstoppable. So it doesn't matter that Anna is off having fun, but you are Anna and everywhere you are Christin Bell that and just like Kristin Bell, I will figure it out. Let's keep going. Number seventy five is Tina Turners Eighties come Back.

This was a moment because you know that she did not have an easy time of it with Mr Ike. And also, can we say we need to stop with the Ike Turner and Tina Turner jokes. So let's just say that I was never I'm always like I that's a pro cluture for me. Whenever someone casually is like, oh, like, I'm going to be the tire Tina, I'm like, wait a minute. No. Also, he was her monster and brutalizer. Tina Turner, We love you. The eighties come back, The

eighties come back? What's love got to do with it? The iconic care simpler, the best everything, just the end to end, simply the best with the best, Yes, the best. Honestly, she is a wild vocalist power and you know what I wanted to do for my birthday when I came to New York, what I wanted to go see t You know, we were we got tickets to to see what. We had tickets to see Tina And it was that week, I think it was three days before and then they closed it down and who knows if it will even

open again now it's closed. Until we kept talking about anti culture this, let's speaking of Broadway. This is rule number seventy four. An Ariana Grande from Wicked and Unbelievable, Unbelievable and somehow like the vote, the Ariana Granny vocal runs worked when she goes from the lass favorite Yeah

you did it? That was hell and that look of joy on her face right before she hit the note, and also she had gone we can't tell about it, but she had gone through something tough a cop few days prior, and then was on that show right after the news of that dropped and slayd that song down and to watch her get so happy like before she was singing it, and while she was singing it, I was like, this is a triumphant moment. And it was kind of like, you know, Bernardette Peter singing Hello, Dolly,

It's like, Okay, a child of Broadway has returned. Oh, yes, she has returned to the stage, miss star of thirteen and now number seventy three, and I talk about her return to the stage. Missy Elliott revealed Katie Perry's super Bowl performance. It was a reveal. I do want to point out that Matt Rodgers wrote in Ruvealed she was revealed when Missy Elliott was revealed during Katy Perry had

the Super Bowl and that giant Katie was wearing. That giant oversized like literally every single one of Katy Perry's outfits of us both were hideous like like, which is totally consistent with the rest of her career. And I say that in the most loving way. And we gotta say, I mean, Katy kind of nailed the performances. I watched it the other day. Literally, I don't really know what else you would want from a Super Bowl performance. I think hers was amazing. Oh the girls have done amazing. Girls.

I have very few notes for the girls. Um, but Missy, Missy showing up, get your freak on, is that what they did? Know that they your freak gun and work it and work it. Um and then lose control huge. Do you remember lose control when that would come on at school dances? Clear the floor, Clear the floor, I gotta I'm sorry to bring up ecstasy again. Go ahead. That has to be a sick out experience. I probably experienced, not lose control that past that Dutch when Paris that

Dutch comes on and you're on Molly. I think I turned to you. I was with you one time when this happened to one time, the time that's happened that I can remember, I turned to you and I was like, mean Girls is an amazing movie. Yeah, that's what I said. I'm sure that you did, and I'm sure I agree to because I'm I'm I'm rolling and I can only think of Rachel McAdams being carried out by all these jocks onto the field. Truly, I'm kind of we're actually

going to get to that later. Two is Fergie singing Italian. This was a moment of culture and it's worth seeing the movie nine just to watch Bergie sing the Italian. And it is a joke to me that the Oscar nominee from that is Penelope Cruz, who was great, but she wasn't. Fergie singing the Italian as a as a you know, sort of prostitute down by the river. Do you feel like Fergie outperformed Dayla tay Lewis. Listen to me and look me in the eyes. Yes, I do think.

I think she was a shining light. And let's just say, Daniel day Lewis, he did not hold a candle to Saratagin. Italian is a crazy ass. If you want to know about the love is Psycho. I remember watching uh interview with her about the movie and she goes, well, you know what, I was singing the Italian. My character Sarta Gina. She sings the Italian so many times, and so every time I said the Italian, I wanted it to be

a different sort of meaning. Like you know, when you say the Italian, it's like the love of food, the love of sex, the love of coature, the love of the Italian men. You know, it's so many things that come with being Italian. And so if you listen, every time I'm singing the Italian, I'm singing about loving a different part of being Italian. And I was like, my jaw is on the floor, and not only the words,

but you re enacting, well, I actually can embody. Literally when I was right now, I was her in my mind's eye, I saw myself as first. It makes sense, It makes you being a vessel for Fergie makes complete sense to me. Do you remember the iconic glass note? Do it? No? I can't, And she's like belting her big old tits off what I walked out of nine. I stayed for the Italian. I stayed for Kate Hudson. I think it was first. You didn't even see Marian even saw spiel Lauran. I think I just maybe it

was good. I just left before like the end. I was just like I saw what I came to see. I saw the women. I went out. I saw it two times in theaters, once on a date. It was like the third date I had ever been on in my life. Oh my god. And so this is this is just it feels like a betrayal for me that you did that. It's me and Sudy's favorite film. I know it is. It's so bad. I just I want to I just want to gay culture. It's gay culture. But it was also like good La Luna. It's Sophia,

she's a hundred, I know singing. Kate Hudson has amazing hair, and she goes and it's such a it's such a performance, Kate. It's never looked better in a movie. Wait now, I feel like while you're here, we have to have to watch it, and we also have to continue. Let's go. Number seventy one is Normany. I mean, Normany has really stormed into the scene, and she has stormed right onto

the list, right onto the list. But you and I were talking, you know, you and I not to get pat ourselves too much on the back, but you know we've been saying, we've been saying, guys, the actual star a Fifth Harmony is Normany La Cabello, who you know, has doing a lot of it, is going through a

lot of growth. And despite her you know, very anti black past, she's now putting the work in with very anti black past and is now putting the working with Mr Mendez and they are doing whatever they can to to to to do right by by everybody and everything. We don't even want to talk about Camilla during it's you and let's just say Normandy. We've been talking about her for years. Normany. It was always the best answer in fifth, Fifth Harmony. If you look at the work

video Normany is turning it out from home. She is crawling up and down that damn bulldozer. And then when you got my motivation, it was do you remember where you were? Do I remember where I was? I remember that day so vividly. I don't remember where I was, but I remember that it was constant watching of the video Capital m moment, talk about a moment in culture, motivation video, just just calling forth these cultural visuals, paying

her respects to Beyonce. And here we thought that out of all the girl group sort of b players, that we already had the number one motivation when Kelly Rowland came out with motivation, and then Normany came out with her own motive vation and she said, uh, look out for us girls who are not the lead singer of the group with the second lead vocalist vocal Okay, look

out for us too. And we we gotta say Motivation by Kelly Roland is this fantastic another bop but just didn't make the list because it didn't make didn't make it. What did make the list is another song number seventy get Out of My Way by Kylie Minogue, I mean from the Aphrodite album, Huge album, This is a huge album and this song the video go on about this the video you got all these gay men, these upside down triangle men running around. I talked about their silhouettes.

They're they're just like beefy up top top heavy, broad shoulder, just like fucking voguing the house down, the light projection designs and then the chairs. Kylie Minogue in a red outfit, just walking up to this cliff, this golden lit cliff during the bridge. It's an incredible song. Goddess. She was feeling her goddess iconography there and this moment, this moment on the list is indicative of a much larger career that is Kylie Minogue, and we do respect. I'm gonna

say something to you. You need to get more into Kylie. You need to get into the back catalog. I'm actually surprised this it took this long to come up because you don't know that much Kylie. It would that be fair to say I don't have like a deeper You know who loves Kylie is Lewis Forte and Grand like all the l A gays like I love Kylie Minogue and I just have this sort of I don't know I don't know who fills the space where Kylie Minogue needs to go. Here's what you do. Start out looking

searching for her interviews. She there was no more charming, deep pop diva interviews than she. She's second to maybe share like in terms of being charismatic in interviews, and like once you see them in an interview, like yes, I love you, I will follow you to the end of the earth. Kindie, there so great interviews And just listen to X listen to I mean just everything Kylie listened to. I mean Golden I think is a great record.

She but like, but Guy Brandham said, wow, Gaga when she released Chromatica gave us a Kylie Minogga record, Like that is like the ethos of Kylie just giving you dance anthems down boots. Okay, let's keep going. Let's talk about number sixty nine. You don't have howork to do for this. No, the discovery of penicillin antibiotics huge. We could not be where we are in the pout them. I don't think that I could have come back from so many sicknesses that I have had had it not

been for antibiotics. And I just want to shout out to all the doctors right now, and we are thinking of you. We're thinking of you. Let's keep going. Um, this is number sixty. This is an iconic moment. I'm so happy you put on thank you when Ash Armelion evolved into because this is truly the loss of innocence. This is the loss of innocen. This is saying goodbye, This is saying goodbye. And you know, if you remember from a show, Charmelion was not very nice to Ash,

did not follow his orders. No, but it's crazy because it's like this is actually there's a much deeper meeting here because the char Mander was really sweet, so sweet charm We never would have seen this coming. There's lots of it is since But you know what else this is, This is a model of a toxic relationship. Yes, and it was really it was Ash let him mature too quickly, and it was it was it was really what it was was overtraining and it was abuse. It was abuse.

It was overtraining abuse. It happens all the time. And because when you remember that Charis Art was even worse than Charmelion in terms of being so cocky, not listening to Ash, flying away from battles when ashe needed him the most. And then you know later on, I think it was in the Joe to League that Ash gives up Charis are Ultimately he realizes they both be better off. But that very Brilli and Andrew moment, very brill and

Andrew moment from Desperate Housewives. But this is um that was the moment that they saw each other as equals. Was when Ash was able to let chars Are go, and Chars I respected that from Ash. Honestly, it's a huge moment. Ultimately, it's this is one of the most I think it's the most painful relationship in the Pokemon universe. I think so. And an amazing arc and an amazing arc. Amazing arc. Thank you number sixty seven. When w ah and A Star Is Born this I was with you

the day the trailer dropped. Yea, And to say, I think I googled it every day from when I saw the trailer to when the movie came out. I was so excited for A Star is Born and it did not disappoint. And to know that not only was that amazing moment in trailer history, it was an amazing moment in cinema history in a way that made me forget. Like it made me because for a while I was like, there's not gonna be like a melodramatic movie. It's gonna

rock us on a cultural level like this. Uh like since you know I was thinking this thing years ago, I was like, there's not gonna be like a My Heart Will Go On. Yeah. I think that what we had there was the closest thing we were going to get to like my Heart Will Go On moment, where like a ballad like that was really from the soul of a movie and had to only be for that movie,

like really crossed over, although we did have Let It Go. Actually, you know what, It's weird because I always think of like the moment of ballads from movies being huge hits as very Yester Year, but The Star Is Born both had huge Oscar winning songs that were huge mainstream hits. I think Shallow was one of Lady Gaga's biggest records ever. I think it. I think it has like one trillion stream Yeah, it's like a really crazy amount of streams. Um,

you're right, You're right, one trillions. It's real culture number eighty three streams on Spotify. But you know, it's like my heart will go on. I don't want to miss the thing. It's like all these like huge, sweeping melo dramatic songs. Yeah, I thought they were like a thing of the past. Spit then here here Gaga, Nadina go okay, Oh my God. Number sixty six Kelly Clarkson singing Natural Woman on American Idol. I have to give you the

floor on this. So there were a lot of performances that were big moments for Kelly on American Idol, and Bowen had suggested that we put Kelly Clarkson winning American Idol on the Culture List. But the thing is, it was a foregone conclusion that she would win early on in the season when she sang a natural woman, because she hit this whistletone note. She was rocking a tie and a little hat. She was so addressed like a

little businessman. What was the theme that week? This theme was sixties and she's saying natural woman and it was so she was twenty years old. It was well beyond her years. And I said, this is not only going to be a star in the Winner of the Show, but this is going to be someone in my life. And she has remained so And I'm looking right now at her vinyl, her meaning of like designed vinyl and she just want an Emmy, a daytime Emmy for talk host.

Halfway got Halfway? Do you got? And Kelly, I've known it from the beginning. I love you. You're a moment of culture. Do you have anything to add, how emotionally ambassy you pay tribute like this lover her. She's a moment of Kelly so much. And you know Kelly was you know Kelly earlier on and the last episode was kind of involved in the moment of culture of Matt and I being on the view that she she was the reason we were there. She was the reason we

were there. She wasn't the culture that day. It was us. The culture was us. And um that gentleman who went to go to the concert, but we don't speak of him. Uh, let's move on. Kelly's number sixty six, but number sixty five is Sailor Moon. This iconic young woman took the morning time by storm in my house, in your house. Sailor Moon, um Usagi, Serena, whatever you wanna call her, but just did the world around her gave us the

magical girl archetype in anime in manga. Um uh, what a what a heroic girl fighting evil by moonlight, winning love by daylight, never running from a real fight. This is the one named Sailor Moon and the transformation sequences Sailor, Venus, Sailor, Mercury Sailor, Mars Sailer, Jupiter Dream. I could go on and the Sailor stars the series. You had the Search for your Love, you had Sailor, Neptune Sailor. You're in a Sailor Pluto iconic. Queer characters, queer cultured trans characters

a huge thing, a huge part of the culture. I just remember watching Sailor Moon in the morning, and it was so early when I had to go to school that it was still dark out, so it was like watching a like a primetime show, but before school. I remember it was so early in the morning that it was on. It was it had to be on, like like it was always dark outside or maybe it was raining. I don't know. I was young. Um, okay, so we're moving on to number sixty four. This is Parker Posey

and Josie and the pussy Cats iconic. When she walks down the stairs to her own party. Why do you do? What could do to me? Baby? Shaking my convdence, driving me crazy? You know if I could, I'd do anything for you so good And she is just sort of letting her body sway. It's incredible, I mean. And that movie really is like comedically like so huge. You had Parker Posey, you had a Eugene Levee, Cameo, Alan, Alan Cumming, Missy Piles, Rosario Richel could of course, yes, became Donald

Faison and what's his name? Freck and meyerck and Meyer. We love one of my crushes Green. It was like of the time, like so perfect. But then you had like the Christopher guest flavor and there with Parker and with Eugene, and I just remember that movie influence. We've talked about this before, but that movie has influenced me so much. Oh it's also well ahead of its time in terms of what it was saying and what it

was exploring. Now. Number sixty three is Yohaugenberg inventing movable type? Well, we certainly wouldn't be here. It certainly wouldn't be easy to live life with that what he had done. Imagine having to read a handwritten book. Thank you not my favorite Gutenberg. That would be Steve Gutenberg. Would love Steve Gutenberg didn't make the list. You know who did make the list is number sixty two. Robin. We love Robin. Robin has created some of the most amazing music of

our time. And I would actually say the song that defines our generation the most is Dancing on My Dancing on My Own. Absolutely, there's pathos, there's a beat, their suffering, there's joy. And you know, one of my fondest memories is of going to the Robin Honey concert at Barclay Center, Yes, with my sister Matt Rodgers and Josh and and Josh and Mo and Dave, and we brought poppers and when the poppers hit at a Robber at a Robin concert,

they hit and I saw it so hard. I saw him that vogueing, the fastest vogue I've ever seen in my life. I was really filling myself with that Robin concert. And how could you not, I mean, that was that was one of the best summers ever, honestly, and also it was just such last summer. Oh my god, it's so that was a great summer. No, I'm so sad. I will have great summers. We'll have great summers anyway. Robin provided us with that moment and so much more.

And I remember her in singing show Me Love, and that is longevity right there. Yes, come on Swedish pop Icon to be celebrated. Number sixty one, Hey clown Jester, you have done it again constantly for the circus. This is the Michelle Obama meme replaced with words clown and jester and circus. Look it up. Look it up and of course foolishly and doing it and doing it foolishly. It's perfect. It's just a good meme. It's great, and it's a culture momentum. Number sixty is Feud, Bay and Joan.

Where is the next series of Feud? So I looked into this. They were they were going to do Diana and Charles um and then they were going to call it something else and it lost the Feud name like the pre colon really and then Ryan Murphy sciences Netflix deal, so then I think Feud is contractually bound to FX. So now that he's on Netflix, he's like, I don't know when I'll be able to do Feud again, but I would love to do foot again when I can. So we it's it's indefinitely just done. But feud, what

we had a feud? Isn't that sad? That is a bummer because I actually thought that feud was one of the better Ryan Murphy too, Yeah, and you know whatever, But I thought Bettie and Joan was great, even though the writing is like, I love Betty and Johan and I need a little bit of over the top writing like that sometimes. I mean, the last episode of spoiler Alert, Um, Jessica Lang is Joan Crawford hallucinating all of you know, the the old Hollywood people who tormented her. Um so good.

She's truly good in it, and honestly, had it not been for big little lies in nicole Um, that was a crazy year. It was a crazy yer and we're actually gonna talk about it in a second. Fifty nine is S Club seven. I mean, these two these young girls hot sort of like, you know, trying to be the new group of the moment and succeeding there for a little bit because it was Simon. It was some. It was not Simons, Miss Fuller, Simon Fuller signing them and this is hot off the success of the Spice Girls.

You know, S Clip seven as club party. Um never had a dream come true. All that just really songs for the moment, for the moment, and we can all remember that moment, sort of like wishing we had like a boyfriend or a girlfriend at the time, and sort of like you know, so soda pop fantasies. Yes, yeah, that's how I think of them. Number I can Barely see is a little bit of a different fantasy of a soft drink or something you could drink. The invention

of ice coffee. I can't live without it. Me neither love the stuff moving forward? Fifty seven is I mean, for me, this is Desperate Housewives, but make it even richer and prestige and with an oscar Worthy director and real A list talent behind the camera. I identify as Reese and big little lies I have. I guess I'm a Shelene. We've never really figured out what I am. I feel you're celest, but with power, you're so lest when she's in the courtroom. What do we think of

Season two? I don't hate season two as much as everyone else does, but but I would say that I would rather have big little lies than not having, Like I'm if at the end of the season I'm mad because there was too much pulpe on my drama about like rich A list actresses. It's like, that's fine. I'd rather like, yeah, you know, how many seasons of Big Bang thirty like have been on. We can get a

few seasons a bit little lies. I don't really ever understand when people are like, we don't need a third season. It's like, yeah, I don't need, like I don't need another a million dollars, but want it like thank you, And it's the same, am bib little Ice. Season three would be the equivalent of a million dollars. You know what they didn't do enough in season two, which they also didn't do enough in season one, was not enough Marion Marion Dungey. Well, I thought that she would be

a bigger part exactly what's what I'm saying. But she wasn't. Yeah, she wasn't. And she also was iconically in Private Practice to spin off when it was a backdoor pilot, and then they recast her with miss Audre McDonald, who unfortunately did not make the list. Um let's keep going. But who did make the list? Number fifties six Deb Wilson on Mad TV, one of the best sketch performers of all time. In my opinion, you put her up there

with Gilda. Oh. I mean, she pops on the screen like no other and the choices are out of control, but they are welcome. Let's just I'm truly rattling these off yet, Whitney Houston beneath a Latifa harri Fa Sharifa Jackson, you had prehistoric prehistoric, I mean you had yes, prest Clamazon Huntress is a d she was She was like the she was Mariah. She was this default commercial parody voice. She was the cssily strong of that TV um she

she did so much, she did so much incredible. Oh she did Diana Ross in a crazy Halloween theme sketch. If people remember where she bit Michael McDonald's nipple off. I love mat TV so much as people know Deborah Wilson like popped in a way. I love her and I agree. I mean, this is a seminal artist artists. And speaking of artists, number five, Brandy Cinderella, this is the definitive telling of Rogers and Hammerstein. Thank you. And you had an Asian male lead in the nineties, Are

you kidding me? She had biracial parents and it was just it was it was a Victor Garber and Whoopi Goldberg and like it was just a completely colored blind cast. Not that that even had anything to do with it. I remember being little and not even thinking about it was just like amazing to watch. And Whitney was the godmother of course, the Whitney Houston impossible things all happening.

I mean, come on, and Brandy iconic sitting all on in her little corner, on her own little chair, sin in her chair, and did you ever see like the interview footage or like the footage of them staying together at the in the studios. It's just beautiful and well that was Brandi's idol, that was Brandie's idol, and like, but you could see that Whitney was pushing her because she knew she was capable. And look, you had a gay dad, Victor Garber, huge and married to Berna, I mean, iconic,

burna dead getting a big part like that. We like ever, my mom said to me, that's Brenda Deett Peters and I was like, I don't know that, but I do know that. I want to know more, you know what I mean. I was like, I'm actually interested in hearing more about this Bernadette Peters because there's something going on. That was my first exposure to Berna Dead, I think I would imagine. So yeah, so I'm moving forward. We have a number fifty four. This is iconic Jurassic Park.

Think about all the culture that Jurassic Park has given us. I mean, not only do we have Laura during staring up and wonder at what we then realized later was a c G I dinosaur. There wasn't even anything for her to look at, talk about acting talking about it. Then you've got I mean, Beaty Wong serving up iconic

fish villain. You got that t Rex, another villain in the film, very big, very mean, the raptors extremely nasty, and we had the most handsome creation of all as dr Ian dr Ian Malcolm, Thank you Mr Jeff, Mr Jeff Goldbloom. And we have sex icon's icon. You had the iconic little cartoons train of DNA narrating how the park came to be, talking about the amber, talking about the MS Dinosaur theme Park. They sat down and they

wrote Dinosaur Theme Park, of Course, which is a novel. First, thank you Michael crist Then we had Steven Spielberg making into the amazing moment. And then we have the theme parks everywhere nationwide, I mean internationally, Girl Dress Park. Now we have Jurassic World. The movies are um trying something new, but they do give us Bryce Dallas Howard out running a t Rex in her heels. That and then in the second movie a ponytail. Chaotic good, chaotic. This is

the definition of chaotic good. Absolutely, it's actually real culture. Number seventy Bryce Dallas Howard is the definition of chaotic good. Thank you, Let's move on. Number fifty three is Dr Meridian. We just watched this film. I haven't seen any I haven't seen a lot of streamocrafy, I have not seen a Streat Macro film since he passed away. Oh, you need to watch Batman Forever and Batman and Robin in a double feature. Because Nicole Kidman as Dr Chase Meridian

is not what you remember. She is driven only by her sexual impulses. In the film, she has iconic Veronica l hair. She rings the bat symbol, which means that something is happening just so she can get make it on a roof, so that she can like you know, sort of position him. She is lashing her movies around like she is driven wild by her own wiles. And this was she's a psychotherapist. This is Val Kilmer Batman, Batan, I'm sorry to say, I mean not even close. Who

do you think it's the hottest? How does Batman? I mean, if if to be to be totally honest with you, the hottest Batman, flat out period is Christian. You have a body like that, George Clooney, You didn't see the body. Well he wasn't even trying, George Clooney. Now he was like mad to be there. Yeah, yeah, of course he wasn't even happy about being there. God, Batman and Robin is truly truly crazy. It's one of the most insane movies ever. But we're gonna talk about it a bit, Okay.

So number five two is The Sims? What would be without the Sims? One of the best selling games of all time. Um, you know you could live out all your fantasies on the Sims. You could. I did feel rich playing the Sims after Rosebud, of course, after the rosebed Cheat. But you know, to live out your fantasies by building as big of a house as you wanted. Um, I felt rich. I've never felt did you ever do the code to get unlimited money? Yeah? Rosebud, Rosebud always, always, always,

And you know it was fun too. In sequels, you know, there's aspirations that you can work with, and it was fun to sort of, you know, make my character the mayor of sim City. That's incredible, thank you. See I was like a really coach tycoon person. But I feel that the Sims arened its place here because I even played the Sims as well. And to sort of watch my characters quote unquote interact was very formidable for me.

For not formidable, it was formative and formidable. And I don't know my words, but I do in my heart. Let's keep going, um, let's keep going. Number one speech. The world is ship. The world is bullshit. The world is bullshit. This is bullshit, she said, and she was right. She was right, and she said, go with yourself, Go with yourself, Go with yourself. Isn't that beautiful? Honestly she only looks crazy at the time, but now looking back, ahead of her time, ahead of her time, go with yourself.

Don't go with what this industry wants you to do. Go with yourself and what like also like what eighteen at the time, young Michelle branch Age, Billie eilish Age, Kate bush Age, smart ass, smart as girl. And moving forward we have another incredible ass number fifty Lucy Lou Flip your goddamn hair and Charlie's Angels too, of course Cameron who then flipped her hair to Luke to great success.

Luke Wilson, who was hot and hot, but also Matt LeBlanc was also hot in that movie, and so was Sam rockwell so with Samuel Rockwall, Tom Green with Drew Berrymore's loving not hot in the movie, but you know, he served, he served a purpose. He was goofy, definitely goofy. I love Charlie's Angels me too, Oh my god, like

a really well directed movie. And the writing is so fun and it's really that's I mean, it did what the new one didn't do, which is it went for the fun and the jokes and the sort of campiness, which is this idea that there would be a Charlie's Angels. You have to blow that up. You have to blow that up. And the music and the soundtrack and Charlie's Angeles is all like seminies classics, mostly like it's like it's like a tribute to the original Charlie's Angels. It's

so good. It's so good. I also think it understood something that the New Charlie's Angels didn't, which is like the Charlie's the New Charlie's Angels like what I like about the old Charlie's Angels. And maybe there's something weird about me saying this, but I like that they were like overtly sexual, that they were like really in control of their sexuality, and this new one sort of had

like almost like a chip on its shoulder about like feminism. Yeah, like it was just like, no, they're not sexual, they're just they're just soldiers. And it's like okay, and I mean yes, but also that doesn't like, let's not shame the movie that came first and the like female production team that put it together, and like, you know, but

it's it's the third wave. I feel like Charlie's Angels, the McGee to the two McGee movies was very third wave feminist in the way that it was like they were empowered because of their sexuality in spite of it anyway, were it was amazing and Lucy Little we stand and now we're in the top fifty, number forty nine and Vogue and Salt and Pepper collabing on what a man. I mean, come on, come on, I mean this is a huge moment um like maybe best singing girl group

of all time and Vogue I think so. And then but just the moment, it's a perfect marriage. Um, no one is compromised on the song and you know, you get you know, he's so crazy. I think I want to have your baby. I mean, like perfect, like seamless into it's drenched, so good, drenched in goodness. Come on, here we go. Number Billy Porter's curtain hat. You can't say much about this and then iconic other than iconic, and watch the video of it opening. It's very funny.

It is very indicative of Billy Porter's fashion sense, which is a whole moment, and it's represented here on the littlest of the top two. Let's keep going. Number is God Warrior. You came to my mind. I saw her. I went to go see her at our station. You came to my mind. You came to my mind. A slee the God Warrior speech from wife Swap. It's beautiful. We saw Bob the drag queen to a lip thing to it. That was the next level. It broke it

all open from me. And I went home that night and I watched I saw Bob do it at a Barracuda, went home, watched it and I was like, I maybe even texted you. I was like, this is an incredible thing. Oh, it's an incredible moment in television history. And now did you know that she's like repentance, yes, and she's like very woke. Yeah, she like she celebrates lgbt Q and like and like she's like I think she's down with like like the uprising too, and like black Lives Matter.

I think I love that. I think she's like fully like repentant and she's like go on the opposite, Well, I mean to see yourself be that, to see what you think is a normal thing be blown up and like become such a crazy moment in history. Maybe she had some good uh re educated, but it doesn't always happen. But like I just think the I'm gonna I'm gonna blow out the mic. She's not a Christian. Amazing, she's not a Christian. Oh my god, it's tainted all right.

Number forty six is Fergie singing the national anthem. Of course, she capped it off with let's play some basketball. She makes it on lest twice a huge feed. I think she was. She she did the jazzy rendition of the national jazzy rendition and we love I. I don't think it's actually that embarrassing for her. I think she like, she need not be embarrassed. She took us by the shoulders and she was like, you're gonna listen to me saying the national now, and she and I'm gonna do

it my way and it's gonna be a moment. And you know what we're talking about it right now. You know we're not talking about right now the All Star Game. We're not talking about anyone else's version of that now we have them except Fergie. Yes, okay, you're right, numbers pretending to America's next. So of course this is the You really are the tyra historian of the two of us, and not really, I didn't. I didn't even watch that

top model that much. But of course we know the moments, and the moments are you know, um Eva and all all the famous winners, all the famous winters, all of them but you remember this moment, right She's she's sitting down with the girls on a chair. She's like, I'm really I don't feel good anyway. Um okay, I just wanted to talk to you guys about this challenge. But I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys, I'm just so tired, okay.

And then she gets up and then all of a sudden, trips over herself and eats ship on the carpet of this room as the girls freak out, and you just you have to listen to these screams because of the girls were like it's incredible, and ty were just like flips her bodies and she lands on her shoulders and like you're not sure if she's seizing or if she's fainting. And then someone get her water, get her water, and then she gets up and then of course famous she goes,

you gonna learn about my God, it's so relentless acting. Well, let's just go right into our next time, which was number forty four Banks pretending to have rabies on Tyra. So this is when she took her acting to the next level and pretended that she was bitten by a dog who gave her rabies. Foamed at the mouth live on stage during an interview and collapsed and roared at her guests like she was a dog, barked to the camera. And so entire's mind, having rabies is turning into a dog.

That's what she was telegraphing. Yes, And the fact that she took a sip from her from her like water bottle and filled herself with like foam and then pretended to foam at the mouth and turn into a dog and growl at guests. I don't understand. She deserved the Emmy. She won the damn day. And I'm gonna have to

agree with that one. And gonna have to say number forty three is rate the Franklin's Gowns interview, the iconic sit down that Aretha did when she released her Diva Covers album and she was asked about Ello Swift and she said, okay, gowns, beautiful gownswn and just watch it. Just watch. I mean, you know, if most of you know by now on that one that's from that interview, that's a book of lies and trash. Just what that is,

that is nothing but lies and trash. That is a book of lies and trash and of course, Sissy's baby, Sissy's baby. I mean Aretha Franklin, the grand dam of music, as far as I'm concerned, holding her, holding her place and just not having any of it from this interviewer. Aretha was a talent and moving forward before we have lose voice. This is that deep voice, deeper than that, this is the deep like it's just a gorgeous I can't even do it. She has an iconic grasp. Has

she really done a lot after House and Sand and fog? No, she was on Gray's Anatomy, she was on Think, She's been on some shows in sort of the streaming era era that we're not that we're just not thinking of that. We love Shara. I love Shara. I'm trying to think like I think she was in one iconic thing, but it's like not jumping out to now I know, how's it saying in vog is pretty iconic. She had the

Oscar nom, she had the Oscar No. But it's a shame to me that she hasn't worked more because she's iconic and like beautiful someone who you've seen pictures of her from when she was young. Yes, gorgeous, but I'm saying like she's aged into her beauty. Yeah, she was like a screen goddess. Um. Okay, So speaking of goddesses number forty one, Greek mythology, I mean, so many young girls are in these stories, Yes, a lot of young girls. We learn about Zeus, we learned about rapist. Zeus is

a rapist. Really, so many Zeus babies are products of rape. I'm sorry to have to read this again. Yes, I'm sorry to bring the mood down, but it's true. But like I just want to say, I have nothing to do with my ancestors. I apologize for them and I denounced them. Thank you, thank you for taking accountability. But I feel like Greek mythology, if you, if you're really dug into Greek mythology, you learned about the human condition and you look about the darkness and the light and humanity.

And that's what we try to do, an entertainment exposed the darkness and the light. So thank you, greet thank you. Now we have number forty The opening piano A Thousand Miles by Vanessa Carlton. You know it, you'll love it. It's a comedic beat and white checks. It's if you ever hear it, it is it I think is. I honestly think if that came on and we were on Molly, we would flip a ship. It's transportive, Yes, it is. It takes you back to another I remember the first

time I heard it. I was in the car on the way to Catechism to study, to study the Catholic religion on a Tuesday night. And I was in the car and I was like, we I can't get out of the car. I have to know what's happening with the song. When the strength come in, You're like, I it has its damn close in me and I con niconic song, I hanic song. And yes, I was in

the car. It was on Radio Disney and I was like, this is a huge, huge Vanessa Vansa And then that really was you forget like because that song was so huge. It feels one hit wonderous. But she also brought to you with white Houses and she brought a tea with ordinary day. Yes, we love Vanessa. I love Vanessa. I believe she was on Broadway. I think she wasn't beautiful, beautiful, she wasn't beautiful, and you know what she she edged

out a lot of competition. She edged out Robin. She edged out, I mean Aretha, Yeah, I mean, but she didn't get to the heights of number thirty nine. Little mix, hey singing black Magic. So this is a part of culture that you didn't know about until I told you yesterday because we were listening to a little Mix and you were playing the bop of Bob's thinking about you. What it was, it was, have you do you think about us? Think about us? I'm sorry I mistitled think

about us? And I was like, put on black Magic and you said, well, no, they hate singing black Man, even though I like black Magic, said when I was like, they don't like black Magic? And then he was like what And I was like, have you ever seen the YouTube video of them being so over singing black Magic? And then we came back and we watched it and it's shoe Jesse and Nelson in particular hates black Magic. And there's a it's like this clip of the many

times they've sung it. They clearly hate doing it. They're doing it acoustic, they hate it. And then there's a clip at the end which is them all in quarantine drinking wine together doing like an instant live or something. You're doing a great addressing and go ahead, Oh no, here we go. This next question is what's the song you hate doing the most? Black Magic? Black Magic? And they're like, oh, yeah, you don't really, you really don't like black magic and just I've never really locked it

to be on it, Jesse. I love iconic and black Magic, And although I do think that if we had to sing it every night, we'd have to, we'd be really sick of yeah, for sure. But okay, their harmonies only sing that's not acoustic are unreal. And the music video, I think it's amaster the Crown. That number thirty eight Desperate Halfwives. Now I was a little bit questioning this one. You could have reordered it. You could put marsh Across

above Alfrey. But I think it's right that al Free is up here because White Betty Apple White, and she iconically had two sons, one of which was a killer and the other which was locked in the basement she thought was the killer, but was actually the other son who it was her son Matthew, who was the hot one, very hot actor, crazy hot. He was also on True Blood and you see him have sex many times. That's perfect. He has sex with Routina Wesley's character Tera Routina, Oh

my God, to gorgeous Routina on the list. Routina is one of the best actors we've had in tele I'm gonna say right now, Routina, we apologize you were an honorable mention. You and Nicoletus are honorable mention Routina, Routina, and also Anna Paquin's gap and Quand's gap and she made it work. And the iconic gay sex scene on True Blood between Alexander Skarsgard and Ryan Quanton. Thank you, thank you. Oh no, no, no no. But I just want to say before we move on, Alfree Woder on

Disperate Housewives, just great work. I mean nominated, I mean nominated. The acting is so restrained and like you can tell, there's a darkness behind whoever this character is. And she just pursed lips a free worder can act her ass off her personal lips. And also, please, if you want more Alfrey, go see Heart and Souls. Y um okay. Number thirty seven Murder on a Stupid Bitch Express. This

is come on, Matt, what is it? It's the iconic, iconic two part episode of our very favorite podcast hosted by Mazie Rodman and Theta Hamill and I have never laughed so hard so soon until the beginning of a podcast episode. It starts off with an improvised transactions and somehow it works. It works. Oh, you've never seen it. Okay for people who don't know improv at this point, who can't be doing transactions. You can't be doing transaction scenes, but Macy and they to make it work so well.

I mean, Joel Kim Booster has said, um that you are the Macy of this podcast. You're you're, you're, you're, you are sort of the the joy, the chaotic good that's just running him up. Yes, and I am sort of the straight man who has to straightment against everything. And I've never been more flattered that first. I'm also flattered. I think NIPA Wars is a superior podcast in every way. I would say it's better than ours. Please listen too to qualify. I'm sorry, and no I would I wouldn't disagree.

And also I would say, Joel Kim Booster, thank you so much, but you didn't make the lists. You didn't not this time. Number thirty six. Evia Lungoria saying, hi, heleronic acid. I've never been struck by a cosmetics, a skincare commercial. In my life. Her energy has inspired me from the beginning gil at least down to high leronic acid. Yeah, I mean I've been inspired every step by the way. She's the queen of one liners. And this is, in its own way a one liner. A queen of Corpus

Christie Texas, Thank you, Queen of Corpus Christie. Even number thirty five documentaries about important subjects such as global warming, such as whales, such as um, the way that um you can go from being a waitress in the Wrongs to becoming congresswoman, the youngest congresswoman. Yes, And you know, there are so many documentaries out there, and we we would suggest that if you are someone who you know, it's not easy for you to read a book, but

you want to learn, you can watch the documentary. I would say in a lot of ways, Matt Rogers famously more of a documentary watcher. I'm famously kind of I read a little bit more books than Matt. But I could say Matt is maybe in general more informed than I am on certain subjects, and it's because he watches The Doctor. Lately, I've been watching a lot of documentaries and absorbing a lot of new information, which is new

for me. I usually just kind of live in my own world, but now that I'm in quarantine, I've actually been branching out in terms of my interests and educating. I love I want you to school my ass on Jeffrey Epstein whenever I could. Um, okay, so number thirty four Rachel from thousand six. We had mean girls, we had wedding crashes, we had the notebook. We had read by eye that this is like right around family Stone, and it ended yes, And I made sure to look

up when Family Stone came out. Family Stone was two thousand five. I want to see what a run of movies like, like I could do everything a moment though, for an actor who deserved, who like fully rose to the occasion on every single on every single level, every single time. I think. It's like I remember at the time being a fucking teenager and being like, Wow, this is huge, And I don't know why I'm so obsessed with this actress. I was going on she had star quality,

star quality. I was going on her. I AMDB every damn day, commenting on the damn message boards, being like I love Red macn you were a super fan. I haven't really shared this with you. I was. I used to go on Canadian Queen, Canadian Queen. I always I would go in all the IMDb message boards because back in the day you had at the bottom of every profile message boards, and I would go to the ones of like Sean Hayes and I'd be like, guys, do we think Sean Hayes is really gay? Like I would

like start up these these conversations. Oh my god, you were a little troll. I was a little troll. I was a little you know, a little reply guy, little keyboard worry. But you love miss Rachel. I loved Miss Rachel so much. And what a string of hits in this in this time period, she really nailed it. What do you have to say about Rachel? What do I have to say about Rachel? She has that like iconic

just like intangible quality. And I mean during this time it was when you talk about like great comedic performances, you can't really do much better than Regina George and your girls. She also fully carried Red Eye the whole time, like and it was really kind of it got me in the movie theater for a movie like that, which I never would go to, like a thriller like that awesome Wedding Crashers. She's so winning and like you're so

rooting for them to get together because she's incredible. And then also the Notebook is you know, polpy, but she is giving you romantic drama lead thank you and okay, Wedding Crashers like so charming and like, yeah, her and Owen Wilson, it's like I'm on you like white Unrice, like oh my god, Like I'm like that's hot. I want like this is pulling me in the Notebook. I didn't know this, but during filming her and Ryan Gosling hated each other. Yes, I couldn't stand each other. And

then they started dating when the movie came out. Yeah, when it came like but he like tried to get her replaced. I think he was like, it's other her or me, and they were like no, Rachel McAdams. And of course the famous moment in the filming stone, I don't care what you think. Of course you do small work work, and it's so shocking to me. The her Oscar nominationist for Spotlight, a movie where she doesn't do

much since she's good. She listens to Michael Syrol Creighton, Um, but you said something to me recently where you were Like her performance as Regina George like did influence female behavior in generation? It did it? It and its specifically

influenced what girls thought was dominant social media. Her literally, her vocal delivery, her inflections, her state of being, the way she carried herself all trickled down to actual girls trying on the sort of visage of mean girl in a way that like, I don't know, I didn't go to school in the eighties or the nineties, but it's like that didn't really happened, like after Heather's came out, you know. It's like Rachel like like Regina George is like, no,

it's that thing. It's like a blessing and a curse because you have people like that who are so good that you want to be like them, and when they're playing someone mean, it's like that's the thing. It's like, I mean, that's literally kind of what the movie is about. It's about idole, where ship amongst peers or amongst people that are like attainable to be around and become and so what you'll do to become that and I think it weirdly played. It played out um for people that

were too young to understand what was going on. That's the impact of I mean, she's incredible, incredible, Um Alright, number thirty three, we have Lemonade. Remember when we didn't know what this was going to be. That it was just her in the in the in the dreads and like we had just like the album art, just the album right was heard in a six inch like set up. Yeah, and the world the word Lemonade. It was actually it

was don't Hurt Yourself, Yeah it was. And so she was just had the title Lemonade, and it was like is it like a purple range real film, like is it a collection of music videos? Is it an album? Is it? What is it? Is it going to be short? Long? And it ended up being you know, uh, like long form music video art piece. And it was tree and like a tribute to like Yoruba tribal motif like it was, and like we're recording this on the eve, not on

the evel. Black is King is about to come out her next visual album, inspired by her time working on The Lion King. Like you know, Lemonade is a huge culture, huge culture and like really just I would say, in many ways a response to the times as well, and as well as being a personal reflection and almost like a personal explanation. Yeah, and a way to sort of, um cinematically tell her story. I put it in quotes

because you never really know what's true. But the beautiful thing about Lemonade is like she like it did serve as an explanation as to why she was staying with jay Z, but in a way like she'd fully closed herself off at that point in terms of like not doing any press, and it was like she kept it private while also publicly publicly controlling what the public saw,

like I mean, the narrative around them and remaining queen. Incredible, incredible. Um, Okay, So number thirty two we have Disney Weddings in real life and the Disney Plus show What has Happened this Week? So this week I got into l A and you know, we were sitting around and we were thinking of something to watch, and then we put on Disney Plus went to the show. Disney Spairytail Weddings. Season one was on Freeform.

Season two was on Disney Plus. And I can't even really put this into words Matt, can you help, Like, what is the special about this show? It's camp, yes, it's stock footage of Disney locations. It's character driven. Yes, it's really about the characters who appeared on the show and why they want to get married. And you are laughing at them in the beginning, but then by the end you are crying with them because you are just so moved. And it's purity, it's pure, and it's truly

commercial budget. It's budget. It's a budget. It's purity. It's good intentions meets commercial masturbation in a way that it's just like I think it's funny because it's so manipulative, but I respect that about it, but you still enjoy in spite of that, and look like, you know, it's these people who are getting married in the Disney parks around on a Disney cruise or any Disney property at like six in the morning or two in the morning when the park's closed, are closed so that no one

else is around, because of the parks used to be open every single day of the week at many hours the day. But you know, just to see these people like be go on this journey, I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like a beat out lemonade by and the beat out lemonade by Beyond Site by one spot. Apologies to her, but you know who

didn't make the list at all? Adele Um number thirty one, Wendy Williams fainting huge when she was dressed as the Statue of Liberty and took that humble I think we all had to ask what's going on? What's going and she was fine. She was fine, And Wendy's had a lot of moments. Let's just get that out of the way. I'm I mean, let's just say she said more problematic

and done more problematic things than good. But we love her and we respect her, and we thank her for her recent apologies about what she said that guys should stop quote dressing up as us, and we just in her. In that very apology, she iconically misused the term beau vivan. She thought, you know, I don't know what it means. I don't know French. But when I hear the words boiv, I think, um, I think, you know, do whatever you want. I forget what it was. But she fully makes up

a definition for bone. Well, I don't believe that Wendy Williams does even a second of research where she gets on stage, and I think that's actually how I wanted to stay. I don't want Wendy Williams to change. I wanted to remain her having a understanding of all the things that she talks about. I think that's actually better because it's more reflective of how people actually talk. That's true, and I am actually behind what I'm saying. Thank you, um number thirty, Why did you do that? Why do

that do all that? To me? You said in the car the other day. God has never gone harder on the song, never gone harder. I mean we were this sprang from the notion that I before, which is like God, it never goes, never pulls back. She's never settled on her song, but she has never like gone full maximalist as she has on Why did You do that? Never? I don't think we've ever seen a second verse ripped into with such passion as because I have that I and then that ends in the iconic what are you

doing it? I mean like it's just it's so unhinged and was such an effective part of the movie because you got in a second what kind of popstar? She had become. Later on, Diane Warren, the writer of the s, would say, actually, it wasn't supposed to be a joke. It was supposed to be a real good pop song. And here's the thing, she's so wrong and so right at the same time, which makes it a major success for me. Thank you and her iconic orange hair. Why did you do that? Is a roor shock test of

pop music? And I mean we got Alcoball would saying, ladies and gentlemen, Ali and you had Generosatano stage manager at SNL going Alecan five four three. I mean it was a moment and your family, my family, my family. The next is number twenty nine, season two finale. The amount of things that were happening in the grays Anatomy season two finale, it just made you appreciate what had been done all season long and the way that it

closed some loops and stories left others open. He had Sandra Oh running to Preston Brook's hand and just doing a ballet the ballerina pose and just like staying there. Meanwhile, we have the death of um Danny. Danny had just happened, and is he making the realization that she needs to quit being a surgeon and leaving the cut right to well,

I guess that puts an end citive. Yep. They leave, and then the iconic moment with Meredith Gray looking at Dr. Derek Shepard and the veterinarian played by Chris o'donald Finn Dandridge Wow, and they Finn Dandred and they both say Meredith as if they want the hair to come with them, and she just iconically looks up to this guy to those final notes of Chasing Cars by snow Patrol. And that was the moment that I knew that culture was for me. That was the moment that I nu culture

was for me. I remember texting all my friends and I were calling him in it. And that was back in the day of minutes. It's been like, dude, you watch Grazon and God, I mean there, it doesn't get more two thousand six than that. I have to say that was a moment in time, and it's at twenty nine. It could very easily be higher. This is when it's starting to get tough. Yes, this is when it starts to get tough. And we are almost two hours in and I'm realizing now we're going to have to do

a third episode of this. No, that's just the way it's going to have to be. And I'm sorry to our producers. You're gonna have to text me because we're not gonna We're gonna literally it's about to be a two hour episode. We can blast, No, we can't, Okay, all right, Number twenty eight, We're rain on rain on Me was a moment in culture that just happened. But you can't. It's here's what I think. It's ore, enough is enough, no more tears. It's yes, you're so right.

That's all I have to say. I mean, rain on me when when we have Rainami tsunami in the same song as Ariana Grande is transition up in the end of the bridge. There's so much going on here. I'd rather redrive. But at least I'm alive. Rain on Me, rain on Me, water like misery. It's coming down on me. The a moment in culture, the duo that is Ariana and Gaga. I can I just say. I feel like we're doing great and I feel like we can just blast that. There is no way. What do you mean?

There is no way? And you're wasting time here. We're gonna get to twenty five and then we're gonna stop number seven. Pumpkins spinning on New York. Go ahead, talk about this. This has been. This has been like the feud all season long and Flavor of Love season one, Pumpkin in New York just hating each other, New York waving a knife and Pumpkins face in the kitchen every

day calling Pumpkin ugly, you know, all this stuff. Pumpkin gets eliminated, and New York is just tearing into her as she's doing her goodbye hugs, um, and then she's and then Pumpkins hugging Hoops, the eventual winner of a Flavor of Love season one. Hoops is telling her not

to listen, not to engage with New York. New York is over there screaming at Pumpkin and telling her ugly she is, and of course it all escalates when Pumpkin says, actually, I could slap the ship out of you, and the iconic tamber on New York saying do it, slap me, bitch, and then the lugie that gets hopped and lands right on New York's chin and the just and they're propelling that that New York that just as like you see her soul sort of and her body goes with it.

It's motherfucking do you see that, bitch? Fucking spit my motherfucking fifth witch. I will take you out. What a moment it was, truly, it started something. It started a conversation amongst reality show villains past and presence in the future, and it said, this is the bar. Come see me up here, Come see me up here, because you weren't even sure who was the villain in that situation, but we know it was New York, and you know you

love New York. I had not heard of New York until the tim and I heard of Tiffany Pollard until this bit happened. Everyone at school is talking about. I was like, I have to go to someone's house, who has cable, who has beach one, and I have to watch this to the point where I would go on business trips with my dad just so I could stay in the hotel room and watch marathons. A flavor of love that is deep, this one. I was like, I

was obsessed with New York. This is huge. I mean, I get it well because I'm taking my time talking about New York. Because I guess we're doing a third episode. No, we are. What do what do you have to say about New York? What do I say about New York? I mean an original, someone that I think was probably destined to become famous in the Star and got there.

And I think that ultimately with New York, what you have is someone who usurped even Flavor and she I think is omar Rosa esque in this fashion, because I believe that by the time omar Rosa is dead, she'll be more famous in Villainous than Donald too. I have. I want to That's an amazing, amazing prediction. I want to see really quickly that New York. I mean all a Flavor of Love seasons wanted to fill the transphobic you know, insult you look like a man. You look

like man. Even New York at some points was was saying this to people. Pumpkin Um not excluded, but the season two reunion of Flavor of Love, New York shows up your Boots, Buck, wild Um and Delicious all going crazy as soon as they see New York at the reunion, and then Boots especially being like screaming at New York, you look like a drag queen. You look like a drag queen. Instead of being offended, New York goes yes,

and It's fabulous, embraces it. Yes and it's fabulous, does not like see it as a queer queer was like yes, and and and It's fabulous. Queer icon erect a statue of New York in front of stone Wall. Thank you, and now for the last one for this episode number

twenty six, Assa Edwards versus shut Up and Drive. To shut up and drive and and to know that they both won the lip sync at the end after truly deserving to the look on Tatiana's face and she realized that she wanted to look on and they realized they both want to look one's face. The look on Fifie's face, the face crack. Honestly, this was a moment in time. It was two queens who were going for it out of the joy of being dragged. Means they both had

nothing to lose. Flips kicks, twirls. Hair. There was so much good hair in that performance. I think one of the best lip syncs of all time because he had Tatiana in the white get up and illicit and like the black version with the similar hair. Visual opposites, visual opposites, and then they both got brought back into the competition. It was so satisfying. And to have Fifi leave, to have them both vote for Fifi unbelievable. When All Stars was All Stars. Oh my god, that is the lip

sync to show someone. If you want to show someone how a lip sync is turned on, that is the one to do. Okay. So that is part two of Spectacular Tops in culture History. Parentheses are two. Part two. There will be a part three, which was a twist that was even revealed to us during the episode. And how are you feeling about it? I think we're gonna have a conversation with um head of Content Haunts executive producer Anna Engineer Doug about scheduling. You know, I did

not anticipate a third part to this. I mean I didn't think I thought we'd get all this stunnen in one episode. Do you remember the days, Remember the days of us thinking we could fly through this in one episode, but we're just too chatter boxing in Oh my God. By the time this is over, it will be on Iconic Feed. And now I think that when we have the twenty five in their own episode, we can spend my time. And it's about the readers. It's about the readers,

five divided by one twenty. Let's say that's a that's a two hour episode. That is okay, Like I can't do the math right now, but let's just this. This is what has not changed. Number one is number one is still number one reason And we're gonna look at the list and we're gonna see if every thing is in its right place. Yes, because actually it's it's actually

a kind of iconic what can happen. Things can be nothing can be taken from, but things from the top twenty five can change and can be even taken out and new things at it in Yeah, and you'd be surprised how much you forget. And that's actually culture, it's ruler culture number six. You'd be surprised how much do you forget? I can't wait. I'm honestly very happy you made this call. I should never doubt your judgment. This

is gonna be huge. And before the clock stike strikes two hours, we're going to finish out with a song and we're gonna see you tomorrow. And that song is I Get you Away You want to go? You know what I mean, I gotta rad. That's more than a limousine got my hell got go from zero sixty three point that baby, you got the key. Shut up and drive drive drive, drive, shut up and drive drive Charrow h