"Snarky F*ggots" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

you ruin this thing for me. There's incest in Game of Thrones, or there's there's a gossip Girl and gossip Girl, it's going to that point. It's like, can I say something? If you're listening to this podcast and you haven't watched the first two episodes of then just like that. That's truly, I don't know. I don't know how to relate to you girls anymore. I really know. Hey, No, we just don't want you to feel any further kind of alien nation from what we're talking about on this silly little

podcast that we have. Oh, we did have some readers ask if we're doing twelve days of culture this year, We unfortunately will not be Man is very busy touring, you know, I'm busy working. I guess, yeah, I would, I would. I would say that you are. I think we're both actually over extended, and I think that, um, we're gonna be taking it a little bit easy for the rest of the year. Everyone. There's gonna be some

re releases. We haven't even talked to our producers about this yet, but we actually don't have time to record the rest of the year, so we will be putting little Easter eggs out there, some familiar, old favorite episodes out. You know. It's just it just so happens that the holiday has become an extra busy time for the culture East.

That's not the least of which reason being that we have to keep on top of the culture in our own lives and and just like that's going to be putting out episodes and we have to be watching them. Can I just stage the space. Yeah, I did not mean to come so hard for the readers. From the very beginning. I think that they get it. This isn't this is not no. But this isn't even specific to the readers. This is as a culture. We need to

stop it. With the spoiler alert culture. Okay, because you and I both said you and I have both been on either side of this. I mean that was for those of you don't know. But we're not regating. We're not going to relitigate it, but we are going to just state the facts, which is when Katia Zamachava was eliminated on RuPaul's Drag Race, the program that RuPaul's Drag Race season seven, Bowen Yang logged onto Twitter and tweeted two words but elongated Katia. No, not on Twitter, it

was Facebook. It was ace, smaller audience. And guess what drag races is queer sports. You watch them live, you know, DVR the game and watch it, you know, three days later, and think, hey, thank goodness, no one spoiled the result for me. You know I I think I agree with you now because I now that I've moved to I remember living in New York when you did that, and I felt spoiled drag Race. I was like, I rate, But now it's like, now that I live in Los Angeles,

it's like, no, we're three hours behind. And it truly is. You're always at risk for spoilers. Cannot go on social media if you're in la if you're in the West coast for for the three hours until. Also, if you're so panicked and worried about being spoiled on social media about your favorite shows, then examine your relationship with social media. Well, I don't know that's this is all dicey. I guess some people will take issue with this, which is fine. I think I hope we offend people. I hope we

really offend people. Well make headlines. Finally, for offension, I actually for offension, I actually find that I have developed better coping mechanisms around having something spoiled to me. Like I think this is actually like a beautiful learning opportunity, teachable opportunity, because like I mean, like with Sucking All Stars six, like every week I was getting it spoiled on when I would go on Twitter dot com myself, I was like, oh, well now I know, like who

the assassin is, who goes home? Who whatever? Just a bad way to roll out that show. But I still but then I think it's re tuned my expectations around or like my enjoyment overall is like obviously I will enjoy it less if I had known, if I hadn't known, But now I can watch something where I know what the result is and enjoy it anyway. You know, it

just depends on what it is. Like. If it's something I actually like, I'm just gonna come out here and bravely say, like, I thought All Stars six was fun, but it did not bother me in the slightest that I logged on one day to Instagram, uh the app, and the first thing that popped up was Liganda Astranga turning over a lipstick that said silky. Literally, the whole episode ruined for me in a second. Who the assassin was, what the person won the lip sync, and who was eliminated.

I was just like, wow, I can't even open the app without being spoiled. That's what I'm saying. So but but it depends. It depends on the content. So here's

the thing. This is what I'm saying. Though. It's like, if I was little press play on this episode today of Lost Cultures this and Just like That, I was spoiled, Like and I the first words in the episode were big Died, I'd be like, you know what, though, the episodes of and Just like That have been out for days and a week that has passed, so I have

no excuse I came prepared to lost cultures this. My thing is that I feel like the seal has been broken on like the conversation around Big Death, and like right oh, like people are writing about their pieces about it now, like everyone knows what's happened. So it's it's fine as fine, But we we've already wasted too much time. Can I just say, without a spoiler alert, we're bravely leaving the very first episodes Big Died, Big Big First, Sorry, we smoked. The very first words of this episode are

going to be Big Died. We're leaving that, and we're good with it. You're asking if we're cutting it. No, no, we're leaving it. I love it, I love us, I love us that I love us, and then that obsessed with us. We cut that, then you're gonna cut the whole first six minutes of this podcast. No, we could do two single bleeps like like it was a damn curse.

No way, can I say, Can I say an ugly word that's such pussy ship, that would be such pussy's problematic problematic huh um um, of course I say that facetiously. Everyone else, love you and kiss you all on the forehead Big actually did die and I respect it so much, Honey. I said it in my chair and I said, the show might have just actually fucked and Dennis Bushnell could never she could never. We thank Candice for creating this world. Thanks for the the this sort of canvas. It's time

to color in the canvas with crayons. And the third graders have a new job. Are you here to say that the third graders have been hired? I think the third graders showed what they could do with The Morning Show season two and the producers of it just like that, we're saying, I think that we got a staff here and I've never been more happy. But where is the teacher in this what doing this time? The teacher is the teacher took a week off because this writer's This

writer's room was only one week. Yeah, this writers room was one week. It was it was the next week. It was like, well, basically what happened was on Monday morning, the teacher walked in and she had seen because she had binged Morning Show season two over the weekend, and she walked in and she said, good job. Ah, but you guys really did an amazing job. Great imaginations. I loved the choices that you made so big, very good. And I love the cliffhanger ending. Wow, what's going to

happen next? Oh my god, can you do can you do that? But with sex in the city And here's some parameters. No, Samantha, that would be too sexy for you. Guys. Well this is this is so interesting because I think, yeah, like the teacher was like, well, this time you have to use an existing I P and the kids went, oh, and then here we are and here we are. I mean literally, when Big died at the end, I was like the third graders, I'm so happy they found another job. Well,

they're now their story editors. They did their hard year of staff writers, and now the third graders have actually been emboildened by their promotion to story that doesn't always happen that, you know, the title after one Room, very rare. Good job, third graders, very good. They're good. They're making their way in the entertainment industry. And soon they'll be show running, you know what I mean. Soon that their graders are just gonna be able to come up with

their own ideas for what to put on. Oh my god, I cannot wait. I mean it's one thing if like these shows got canceled and like none of us cared, but like we're talking about these shows. That's huge. Can I say something you needed the third graders if you were gonna revive Sex in the City for today, Because

here's the thing, the third graders. Only a third grader could have a cursory enough understanding of the character Miranda Hobbs to have her spin out the way she does in that classroom with that professor, who, by the way, is Karen Pittman who's also on the Morning Show, And is she my favorite actress? Yes, it's a rule of culture number fourteen. Matt's favorite actressress is kids and Pittman from Sex in the City Revival and just like that

and Morning Shows season one and two. Stam, you know, I bet Karen went into the classroom and like took a meeting with the writers and the third graders of like, hi, miss Karen, and hey guys, so what are you cooking up? And then they're like, um, you play a professor of a human rights program and you I think what we want you to do is be attacked by a chucky on the subway. Wait, hold on a second, this, you

think this could really happen in real life. And actually the third graders, I mean, because you know who was obsessed with this storyline was Bowen Yang. I am obsessed with this storyline. The third graders killed this for you. They actually like like achieved something here, real talk, real talk. And let mean, I haven't fully been able to like verbalize this in the way that like is leare, but you get what I'm saying when I say that, when

you texted me this, I agree with every word. It felt like classic vintage sex in the City when it when it was known for having like edge, or when it was known for like showing like a little underbelly bits of New York City. Yeah, the random spurts of New York energy. That's specific chaotic New York thing. That

felt really good. Yeah, in a real way. And it was just like see half of a scene, but like I kind of like appreciate and like there are little moments like that, like like in the second episode, right like when Mirandasi is carrying the kitchen the morning after, like she goes over and like, yes, that was making coffee.

Like it's just an interesting little scene where I'm like, wow, like you would have never gone this in the movie, I don't think, And it just feels like, I like when it has this sort of you know, little like flavor this body to it that makes sense, and I think that let's just say this and I'm going to talk. I'm real talk, That's what I'm going to do at

this point. I think that the first time I watched the first two episodes of NG, just like that, because I have watched it now through two times, I think I was so in shock by what was going on and like the new way that the characters that we know and love are interacting with this very new world that that literally and figuraively I'm talking about because like it does feel like I don't know, like the Sex

in the City. It's it's still it's right that it's called something different than Sex in the City, because it just doesn't feel like Sex in the City. It feels like an updated version of like if you took this characters into New York that was being filmed with one camera and now it's like a whole different lens on it, Like the voiceover not being there is a huge departure. It's only at the end it I was like wait, we're not doing the voiceover, Like, this is so weird.

We're not using the same opening. She right, like we're in a different version of the columnists. Sorry, right, well now she's a damn podcaster, which we must discuss. We must discuss. But like that. The first time I watched it through, I was so like, oh my god, I'm shocked. I don't know if I like that. And the second time I actually did, I appreciated it. I think the third graders understand what to do here. By the third graders, I mean, like you know, like Michael Patrick King and um,

like these well known acclaimed writers. Yes, yes, that we're referring to as the third graders lovingly, because lovingly happened. That's why I love that this feels one not anything like the movies. Um, although I do, I mean, I do maintain that one is great. I like the first movie and too that it just feels like, of course

it won't be like the same it would be. It's so funny though I can't tell what this would end, just like that's relationship or it's awareness of fantasy is yet because I feel like the original Sex in the City was a fantasy. Was this like, well to do Manhattan fantasy of like what like single women, like how like what they were thinking about how they lived this.

I'm like, Okay, so COVID happened, and it's over quote unquote and completely eradicated a world where it happened and we beat it and no one's wearing a mask and all this stuff, and so I can't even like I can't even like sort of like draw a line to where we are in the present day and at the end. So I'm like, okay, so this is taking place on a different timeline, Like let's just I have to accept

that first. Then that is I would say, fantastical. So I'm like, I think this is still a fantasy, which makes it I guess, okay to like watch it and laugh at the frivolous parts, but then I don't know, appreciate the parts that like try to ground itself in some like real reality that's redundant, but like, I don't know, I feel like all the little glimmers of I never thought Sex in the City was that frivolous, to be honest, when it was on, I was always like, this is

a very mature developed show, has a lot to say it's very bold. It's because you took what the women were taking seriously seriously. The only reason it was known as a frivolous show is because it was about women. Like it was. The show had like really, this show was always tackling things that were really I mean, there was gravity and everything like this. I feel like I feel like the gravity is back, I mean a way

for me. It's just like what they really needed to do with these first two episodes, and I'm really happy that two were released all at the same time was really show you just how much they were going to reboot the show. You have to answer and spend time on the Samantha of it all, the big of it all, in order to adjust us all to the new reality of and just like that not sex in the city, and yet you still have to honor sex in the city. And so it did take these first two episodes to

do that. And then you see in the trailer of what the whole show is going to be. We actually are getting a comedy, but you need to have these first two episodes I think carry dramatic weight to not to to pun and not mean to um. But but I also think the enough of the humor was there where I'm like, it's not gone, Like I love that. The first thing Miranda says is I stepped on my son's used condom this morning. It's like that is a intro line at brunch in a class at sept in

the city. Sense. You're absolutely right. The first two episodes did have to bust open the world. A lot of work to do and a lot it's a lot of work to do. I'm excited to watch. I will be watching every week like this is my new appointment television now that Succession is done, I do want to briefly touch on it, even though you don't watch it. No, I would love to talk about it yet, but I I don't know. All I'm saying is I'm very happy it's back. Me too, and I honestly that it's here. Yeah,

the new characters are interesting to me. I think that, Um, you know, I think for us and I actually think we should peel back the curtain on something, and I'm excited about it for me. I don't know how you feel. But when I watch a podcast recording on television or a depiction of a podcast recording on television, I'm always looking for something that makes it feel like like how are they doing this? Like how are we making a

podcast fun on TV? And I think ultimately this served and of course it did like these writers are some of the grades, but it served character in a way and wasn't like the character they're doing a podcast. It was like about Carrie struggling at work. And so that is another important establisher is Carrie. You know, she always just like part of the DNA of the show is she has success as a writer. She's a columnist. Carrie

Bradshaw has to adapt professionally. And that's another reason why I think it's a really valid thing to explore if you're going to reboot the show, because you know her life is going to get more difficult as the media changes. So I thought that that was really great. And I also think it's cool that part of the d n a of what she's going to go through is she's going to have to become more open. And this is someone who was always you know, at the forefront and

known as being revolutionary and bold and Carrie Bradshaw. So to see Carrie Bradshaw be confronted with the fact that maybe she's not edgy, it's fun to me, it's it's meta, it's self aware in a meadow way where they understand the show cannot possibly be the edgy show it was back then, and these women will not have the same kind of sex that they did when they were in their thirties. Yeah, and I kind of I dug the podcasting a lot. I love like the quick cuts to

like whatever the engineer was. They have their own loved that, loved that, and they have a hot engineer. It's so funny. I think I think that I think that engineer will reappear in some intimate way. It seems like, yes, and I would fucking love that. And also, um, so that's like one of those things that's just in there enough where I'm like, I think you're right about that. You know what else is just in there enough that I think it's going to be a thing. Miranda's drinking, like,

oh my god, asiably ordering. Well. It's so funny because when I first watched the episode and the episodes and I got to the end, I didn't even think of the fact that in a few different scenes we see Miranda needing to drink at the morning before she goes to class and waiting in a bar when she's fifteen

minutes early. Then later on we see her like have to drink before she gives the eulogy at Harry's funeral, and she can't wait to get her drink there, and she brings wine to the piano recital, so like they're slipping in there that Miranda drinks a lot. And it's been really subtle because people that I've talked to having noticed it, but I've been picking up on it. Oh yeah, we've noticed it. Um. I was at dinner and people were talking about, how, like, is it do we want

to see miranda alcoholism story? This is what I think about. It might not even be an alcoholism story, because my thing is just like, of course, it looks like they're laying in the groundwork for that, but maybe it will just be a thing of She's being asked for the first time ever to to just consider her relationship with alcohol and what it is. Because another part of sex

in the city is they do drink a lot. And so when she was ordering drinks, I was I didn't even second guess it because I was like, yeah, this is what they do, these women, they drink. She wants to drink before she goes to um class. She's a she's a professional like woman. She's like an adult woman doing this. She can make a decision about this. But then when I thought about the way they were depicting it, I was like, Oh, if they're saying there's an issue here,

that's interesting. And for the first time ever, it seems like she's going to have like the developing really close new friendship with this professor, and maybe this professor is going to be like you drink a lot, you know, like maybe that's where it comes from. Because all her friends aren't going to see it. They just accepted as the reality. How do we feel about each of these women having their own magical colored person um too, like kind of you know, like wake them up and be like, hey,

this is what the world is like. Actually, I I'm conflicted, So, you know, I this is not the first time that I think like a character is a certain race. And then of course you have to ask the question of how how are the how is this character being utilized? We don't know them well enough yet. I think it's possible that they're setting enough groundwork and each of their individual stories that it won't feel like we're just there to service the main three. But maybe I'm giving it

too much credit. I understand why you pose that, but I'm willing to give it a chance. Yeah, okay, I just I can't. If someone did bring up that it is insane that the thing that Miranda says after she saves she saves she saves Professor Nia from the attack is was that was that a white savior moment or whatever, I'm like, it's insane, Hey, that is like that is

actually kind of crazy. If I was if I was the Karen Pittman character Dr and Nya, if I was Dr Nya and that in that instance, I'd be like, honestly, I don't like you are making me really uncomfortable constantly, and I think you should think about not being in the class at this point. I would just be like, this is I don't think this situation is working for me,

and I'm the teacher, so you gotta go. Actually, Miranda's antics like when when she when she was trying to get into the when when Dr and I was trying to get into the Miranda's antics and then someone said I think it was Laverne Cox on the view they had Cynthia x and on and Laverne Cox was like, I love the show. I love Miranda, but is she the original Karen in because Miranda is that vibe, but not to this extent. I don't. I don't think she is the original Karen Thow like Miranda like was like,

I definitely don't think she wasn't either make it. I mean everyone said this at this point, like make it Charlotte.

It makes total sense for Charlotte to be that. But of course, like, I don't know, I'm sure we'll get some of that with her, and uh, this lt W character, I think that might be interesting because clearly it's like on a status level, like that lt W character is doing better than Charlotte, and Charlotte probably like is going into that relational thing being like, oh, I'm a piece of ship compared to her, which I kind of love

because I think Charlotte sucks as a character. Charlotte is awful and I hate to say it, but I don't know how you feel. But in the scenes where Charlotte is taking up too much of the narrative, I'm like, unfortunately, a guiding principle of this character is that she's annoying, annoying and just let her be annoying. She can't, but what you're what you're saying, like like at this point, it's like too grading and you're like, as a viewer,

you can't even like remember that. The way it needs to work is we need a carry a story, a Miranda be story, and some rotational thing of Samantha and Charlotte doubt down there. But we don't have Samantha to

balance Charlotte. And that's why I'm really excited to get to know these new characters, because I feel like then it will populate more and we don't have to spend as much time with Charlotte because unfortunately, there are just not a lot of redeeming qualities outside of the fact that she is a very good and loyal our favorite word friend and she's well intentioned. But she's annoying and I often think she's not that smart. Oh no, that

but that's the character. And I think like, since we've all understood the character to be um, I think that I will enjoy the whole thing. I'm also just like a little pissed that they just decided to make Steve hard of hearing deaf, because I was like, I wonder if David Eigenberg is hard of hearing and I looked it up and he's not. And I'm like, what's what's the storyline? Like they're fifty and they're all their bodies

are falling apart. I don't know, and like like I'm sorry, but Mr. D Eigenberg is still like so crazy hot, He's hot, virile. Why are we making him say what all the time? Like I want to I don't want to hear him about him being in like that's what his whole role is now if he feels I feel excuse voice got even Stevie or decades mad me hag yeah, Brady, bradyes fucking in the next rowe. I'm like, what is this? You forget? How just dominating Lee weird? His voices, it

just takes over everything. Everyone I've watched it with and talked about this with has been like Steve's voice has never been this insane. It's like Carol Channing if she had no teeth. There's something That scene was absolutely the same. But I'm saying, like he's so hot, still so hot, And I'm not that like I correlate hotness to like sexual activity, but like, like why wouldn't he and Miranda be having so much. So No, I here's the thing.

If I'm in a relationship with Steve, I'm getting I'm really sorry to say this, but bread constantly, and I'm really sorry to just come out and say it like that. I hate that I did that, but I'm not. But I'm not a dishonest person. You're not a dishonest person. And the reality is he'd be breeding me. That is the reality if you were Oh my god, if you went into the third graders room, that that that you that'd be the first thing in your mouth. And you

you don't you don't care that the third graders. No, I don't care at all. And you know what, here's the thing. If the classes, like sixteen seventeen kids, a lot of kids, I think four or five of them actually know what breeding is and then they all tell each other. And that's the grade I think four I think four or five third graders in the year one out of a class of sixteen or seventeen know what it means to get bread. Yeah, for sure, that's rough. Huh, Yeah,

I guess a fourth grade maybe third grade? Do you forget, like the kids, what did you did you have any when you were like that age, really young, huge misconceptions about what sex was and how it worked. So this is my thing is that I didn't understand what come was until I was like in the fifth grade, right now, what did you think come was? Because I have a story about what I thought come was. I thought come was just like basically p but I honestly didn't understand.

I like when when when I read it in the fifth grade, like sex sad like that like ejaculation happened. I was like, well, I don't want I've never seen that word before and I don't care to know what it means, so I will not look into such an ugly word ejaculator number three such. So that was my feeling. So what was yours? I was told by I think this kid's name was Eric in like the second grade that he's like, yeah, like you ever think about come?

And I was like, what's come? Like? He was like come, you know, like like semen And I was like oh and what is I was like what is that? And he was like, it's when you get really sexually excited and you rub your dick on something so much that you throw up white stuff. I thought this kid told me that like when you got sexually so excited that you threw up a little bit of white, and that's how babies got got how women got pregnant through their mouth.

You threw up in their mouth the white and so like, I was like, that all makes a lot of sense to me, actually, because there is like a weird feeling like down there in your stomach. I thought, when you manipulate your penis. And then I thought, and then obviously the women swallow something, it goes into their belly and then their belly gets big. That makes sense to me. And it was I think months until I found out it was actually, you know, come in the traditional come sense,

i e. It comes out of your penist. Girl, you go into third graders classroom, and then you get the script six months later and you go, I'm throwing up in Steve's mouth, Steve starting up in mine. Huh huh um. But anyway, I think the news would travel enough that they could do a storyline about it, but unfortunately they're doing the deaf thing with Steve. I think missed opportunity. But whatever, whatever, um, this is what I wanted to peel back the curtain on. Oh yeah, so the podcast

of it all. So when Bowen and I did Lost Culture Restus live at was it Little Island? It was that Little Island. It was in August, Yes, in the middle of production. In the middle of production of it, just like that, we got a request that tickled us that Sada Ramirez would like to come to our show. And we were like, oh my god, do they listen to the podcast? Oh my god. We we thought, oh my god, maybe to the podcast. Then like after the show,

like I had heard that they really enjoyed it. And then Bowen said, you know what it was because then by then the news had come out they were playing a pipe two and two together. Yes, And so Bone was like, I think they came for research to see like a live podcast show, because then in the preview for it, it's very clear yea as Chay does a live show. We were part of the research for the character of che you guys, we think we think I just want to say that I don't think they really.

I think they might have been disappointed because I think they thought of us just stand ups and that like we were like very like socially, like we talked about like the issues capital I a lot, and what they ended up coming to was this like stud big comedy show where we each did one minute rance against like fucking like string cheese or whatever, you know, like it

was a frivolous I don't know. I think I think they might have got something out of it, because I did hear from a connector that they really enjoyed it. But I've been really it's been really crazy because I didn't watch Gray's Anatomy after a couple of seasons that

they were on back in the day. I forget Sada Ramirez When they were in the elevator with Carrie going down, I was like, you know, there's like I hate I hate that character pulls out a pipe would never happen, So I definitely hate that that that does a pipe of it all. But I don't know. I guess what I'm saying ultimately is I am enjoying watching a sell with Sada Ramires in it because I fucking love Sada romeiraz me too. I just I have some issues with

the way Chay has written so far. Okay speak on that. Just the whole introductory scene where they're on the mic, and it makes total sense that this is how you would introduce this character her, But the way that they sort of rattled off all of these identities, yeah, and like made it made it such a I don't know, like so cloying and it's not a it's not a sour thing. It's like in the writing. Unfortunately, the third

grade has kind of chunked it on this. I think, like with all due respect to Mr King and Starr or whoever else was involved, but like I feel like it was pure, like like I don't know, like breaking every rules of pilot logical like I'm I'm at this person, am that that that that you know, like just giving you such not not exposition, but like, well, I I think that what you're responding to is the fact that, like what the character's identity just kind of gets stated

in this way where it feels like is that easy? I'm never shown, it never gets I'm willing to forgive it only because it happens in the context of an opening line on a podcast, and that is so of the way that a lot of podcasts like that work. Of course, it's it's I think it's gonna bother us more than it's gonna bother anyone else. I don't know, I don't know I'm hearing some people say. People are seemed to be split on it. People are like, I love Chay as a character, and I'm like, why are

they given we to teenagers at funerals? You know? Like I think that they for sure are. It's it's too far in terms of like, I mean, pretty much across the board. The first two episodes went a little too far in every direction. But this is what I'm saying. I fear that it will continue to go at the same pace. In the exact I get it, and I also don't. I can't quite put my finger on what they're doing with Miranda and Jay. Do you think it's queer love stories? I don't know. It's maybe I don't

know what did Steve ever do to deserve that? I'll be so piste off. This is what I'm saying. Gun into your head, Chay and Eve come up to you and say one of us will breed you every night. Only only one is gonna be said. I'm I'm I know who I'm going home with, but Miranda, she might make a different choice. It's it's not about what I

would do, It's about what Miranda would do. And unfortunately I don't buy that from Miranda, Like if we're taking Miranda in a queer direction just because she's played by Cynthia Nixon, I just I don't know. I don't buy it. I think Miranda like she looks guys. I don't know Miranda, like Miranda was kind of like I don't know. I don't think Miranda needs to be queer. There I said it. I don't need that storyline. I don't really want it. I don't think that Steve deserves that. I don't think

it's worth her shaking up her family structure. And I don't believe it. And if we're gonna do it to make a point and explore a queer storyline, I'm not

about it. Period. Here's what it is for me. If they want to preserve this eat the insects in the city, that it's about these sis head white women, and like what it meant in the nineties and what it means now, there's something like I don't know, like, let's there's something to like maintain in that right, like don't don't change the variables around too much or even even if one changes, and that kind of like domino effects out for me where I'm like, well then I can't really then, and

then like I can't really you know, I don't know how what to think of the show anymore, because am I supposed to sympathize with Miranda, like beyond just liking her as a character over the years and being invested in her, Am I supposed to be like, well, I guess she's been you know, further oppressed in her womanhood

by being like in the closet her whole life. Like I don't like if if if they're going to like pair each of them up with a magical colored person, I'm like, let's not like up and let's not compromise that like dynamic in any way. Am I making sense? You are? So? I mean, I just I don't know if if Miranda were queer, then I then I start to question, like I'm I'm of the mind that this is a fantasy, that this whole show has always been fantastical.

And if I like, if if any of these characters gets like a shade drawn like just a shade like lightly cross hatched in, I'm like, oh no, this ruins like that. I hate to say this word, but there's a purity there in terms of like, oh these are I don't take these women seriously because you know, I don't know, I just don't take them seriously. I either aspire to be somewhat like them or I just laugh at how they behave. Yeah, I think that like the only person and even like this is different now, but

the only aspirational character was carried. But I also think that has so much to do with statistic A Parker. We were talking about this, like what a fucking noxious character on the page, but it's s JP who fucking may you fall in love? There are some shots of s JP in these episodes where I'm just like, my god, like so much for being on screen. Thank you. She is a star. She is an absolute capital S star

and such a good actor, honestly good. So much of the reason why I will be ride or die with these characters is because of Sarahistica Parker and Cynthia Nixon fucking make everything at least seem like it's working or work. Seriously. I love everyone involved on the show. Can we just say that I would die for anyone who was on the call sheet front back page two. Queen, queen, thank you so much. This is the takeaway. We we work kind of we're kind of like fucking spew and bile

left and right being stupid. Starky faggots be like like that snarky Fagus. Snarky fagus. Maybe that's title. Maybe snarky Faggots is the title snarky fag Honestly, that is if they were doing like a satire of this podcast, they would call it snarky faggots. If they had to write like they had like jaglass it was like an Adam McKay, don't look up about it would be called snags. Do exchange the name of the podcast going forward, Snarky Faggots. I love that ep of Darks, the second darky episode

of Snarky when she was on Snarky Faggots. Sorry, sorry when whenever in Lost CULTU Sorry sorry snarky fagots. Um. I just want to say that for all the snarky faggotry that we do here about a show like and just like that that everyone you know is having fun like talking about it's the new It's the new Morning Show in terms of the cultural conversation that takes up,

because the Morning Show was a huge cultural conversation. Absolutely, but we love every single every single person involved is I will be at there like every birthday, even like young Brady who's now fucking And by the way, the scene where when the episode opened on Brady fun ship out of his girlfriend in the next room from Uh, Miranda and Steve, I was like, Wow, now, I guess that's why we've stooped to in order to get sex and sex in this and we have to watch seventeen

year olds fucking each other. Banana to that girl, it's never gonna I'm never gonna yank it to Brady. I'm just not give me a Bobby kind of volley, hon, I would love that with the funking Kim from the ear in the ear, I miss Samantha miss so much it sucks. I fucking hate it. I hate that she's not there. I I can't even like obviously Kim control, she should do whatever she needs to do, whatever she

wants to. But I missed Samantha. I really do. And you and I said this are dumb, wishful, naive little asses for thinking we each separately thought this on our own and watching these first two episodes, well, I'll be really special if Kim Contrall shut up and came back. Sob dream My Dream Bowen is the last scene of the last episode of this season is just you hear this, You hear this word. It's like carries aloud, no matter what you're saying at night, and you just hear this

voice say Carrie. And she turns around or actually would be more like this, Carrie. And she turns around and you see Samantha standing there on the street like with like holding her holding her clutch like in a white coat like and Carrie Bradshaw just she runs over and they don't even have to have a conversation about like why they haven't been friends or why they've been a strange She runs over and they embrace and wordlessly we know it's okay, like because I hate that she's not there.

Mt it just be so beautiful that it's it starts with a loss and then it ends with like the most beautiful like reunion, this most beautiful gain. I just don't believe the reason why she's not there. It's not good enough. Like they had a fight because Carrie Letter goers her publicist in a completely understandable fashion, and Samantha went to another country never speaks to them again. Or you would die for her friends she fed her soup in the bed when she went like, are you kidding me?

Like this is not good enough. I was going to pitch that, she says Carrie, and then Carrie turns and it's Samantha with a perfect bowl of soup spoon out going like that like the way she did in the movie especially. I mean, you know, what, can we talk about the soup moment. I'm sure we've talked about the super Woman anytime we've fed her, but no, she fed

her mama. But I'm saying, like, Kim Control, that is the acting impact that this woman has, Kim ConTroll, Like I It's burned into my brain, just the motion of her wordlessly like holding out the soup and then like pushing the spoon forward and smiling at her at Carrie as because she had all the love in the world for her. I think that is just a two seconds, silent, wordless moment of the most beautiful moment of friendship captured on film is that moment, two seconds of nothing, of

just a soup, a soup spoon gorgeous. I could cry. Kim Control as Samantha Jones on Sex in the City is one of the most important comedic performances and performances in television history. It is. It is formative. We're being completely serious. There's not there's not a world I want to live in. Well, this isn't something everyone believes. You have to give it up for Kim Contralla Samantha Jones because on the page, when you have no template for hor Samantha is and you walk in and you create

that character, you're a genius. Actually, and it is in watching and just like that. Unfortunately, while I'm enjoying it, you do realize, like, well, it's just not sex in the city without sex in the city, and it's good that they don't call it that for many reasons. Well, any any any parting thoughts before on sex in the city, and just like that. Well, and I'm just like that. No, I'm ready, I'm excited. I'm ready. I'm ready to go, and I won't miss big. I'll tell you that I

don't want to see Aiden's ask again neither. Let's put her with someone new. The hot engineer Burger comes back here, what Burger comes back? Honestly, I'm interested to see how he's developed. Me too, I'm interested to see how he's developed. And I'm Actually, I'm willing for that. I'm willing to get to a place where that's endgame. I think they are going to really surprise us. I think the third graders have a lot rolled up their sleeves, and as smart I'm saying in a smart way, they will make

Burger very a very interesting character. Now, do you have any parting thoughts on And just like that, um, I will have additional ones later on in the show. Let's just say that you did see West Side Story. Do you want to glow and praise? Oh my god, I mean I just loved it. And then and let's give big ups to Tony Kushner for for for writing a b beautiful little monologue the scene for Mr Corey Stole

to first, Yes, Tony Kushner is good Corey. For Corey Stool to deliver a little monologue at the beginning of this widely beloved movie, bold move to give like pure exposition basically but only just enough about the about what's happened, why they're conflict, why there's this turf war between these two games. I really loved that as a way to just like level set the whole thing, because you know what, you know what you're going to get when you go to see West Side Story, right, I was not expecting

that scene. Is that you know that that's I find that first seemed very interesting. You know, I think that it fills in this is I guess the thing is like it does fill in gaps in a way where you almost feel watching it when they do a little bit more or fill in a little bit more than the original did, like do we need to do this? Are we messing with a classic? But I think that everything they added improved the storytelling. I really loved I'm not the only one who loved that that cloister date

between Tony and Maria. I was like, this is the perfect because in the original I should know this, but like one and one Heart was somewhat nondescript. I want to say, I just really love that, Like they took advantage of the fact that this is a film that is said in the you know, New York in the fifties, and yeah, where would they go? Let's ask the question again, where would they go? And like like they take the train.

They I love that scene on the train so so sweet and like you got to see because like part of the tragedy of you know Westside story, Romy and Julia. I guess is that you don't really see, you know, the lovers like outside of this environment where like you know, violence is happening all around them, or like you know, animosity is just in the air. I kind of like that they broke that a little bit away from the source materials where like you got to see Tony Marian

like a date. Yeah, I I completely agree with you that in Star Crossed Lovers is hard to sell like and so you do need to see chemistry play out, you know what I mean. This is the thing too, is it's like romantic comedies and and love stories need to not forget. We need to see the love. We need to see the chemistry, like those cute little scenes. I'll bring one up and bring it on when they're brushing their teeth class act. You need that scene and

like and like, all love stories need that. So that's a random example, but I think it's a good example. And so to see them just on the train, the way the scene was directed, the way the acting was playing out, I was like, yeah, I get that there's chemistry here, and I understand why they're doing the state together and why they want to be together, even if, like, even if it felt extras, it's better for the story. Yes, um loved you know. Rina Murino is basically the new

the new doc Um. What did you think about the last scene with her after Anita's assault? So so, so beautiful, And my fucked up and probably incorrect take on the somewhere of it all is that it was so powerful. It's such a different thing for her to say. I

just thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really still part of like the dumb originalist in me is like I do want to see Tony Marias saying that still so like kind of give like an extra like like I don't know, split the song in half and have like Valentinus sing the first half and then or maybe Tony Marias in the first half and then have the power. Really like a reprise of it would be c But maybe I mean Spielberg and Kushner like knew what they

were doing when they gave that song to her. Here's what I think they were saying when when they changed that moment. I think that they were saying they're not in any way trying to like replace the original. No, it's just own living breathing thing. And I almost think it's a comment on the original. And let's this particular iteration, have that moment, which I do think is powerful for her to sing that song when she sings it. Yeah, yeah, I mean not a crier at films you know this?

Did you cry? Stopped sobbed? What was the first thing that got you? Well, it was the last thing. Yeah, it was the whole it was. It was the last Mariam monologue, um where she takes the gun and it's it's so, it's just so, and she was killed now because I hate now. So that is so. It really sits in you for that to be the last emotion. I just I really loved it. And and Maria, Maria, I've just been a starting Rachel fantastic. You just have

to be so fucking talented. You have to have you have such such immense talent to be able to do that and make it look that effortless. Yeah, she made it so like I had no second thoughts about who this person was and why she was playing this this part, which like I don't know, does that ever happen? I just was like, this is really special. And Ansel was a great Tony I thought the actor who played Riff was fantastic and Tornardo was with a great Bernardo Rianna

was fantastic. She was so good. I'm disappointed to hear how badly it's doing. It is, Oh my god, unfortunately, it's like sort of bombing. It only made ten million dollars in its first week. Oh no, and um and or I don't it's just not doing well, which sucks. And I just really want to like implore people to go out there. And also who knows, maybe like and actually during the Christmas time, like more people out there.

And I get that people are nervous still because who the funk knows what a macron really is like or COVID is still and I think unfortunately a large audience for this is probably going to be older because of the nostalgia factor, and maybe they're just a little bit nervous about theaters right now. But I just really hope that good movies start doing well again, because it is getting a little dire. To be honest with you, it feels like the only things making any money are like

Ghostbusters nine, you know what I mean. Like it's it's sort of getting to that point where you have to feel a little nervous about the ways that certain movies are playing. And I don't know, I just I've loved going back to the theater. It's something I really miss. Like we were talking, Dave and I were saying the other night, remember when we were little, you'd go to see like The Grinch, like Monsters, inc. And the theaters were like packed. Yeah, miss that end. I miss that

end so much. And like, honest, a heartbreak feels for some reason, heartbreak feels okay, what is the what are the lines? We're the most iconic thing right now and culture that's playing out is Nicole Kidman being in the AMC theater. Break feels good in a place like this. I'm sorry. Somehow hotbreak feels good. I mean, it's an iconic thing. People were applauding at the end of it. It speaks to how iconic movies are, like it meets

the occasion for what it's trying to do. Nicole Kidman does her job extremely well when it comes to convincing us how magical movies can be. When the job is convince people how magical the movies can be, there's no one you should hire but Nicole. Nicole is a savant yes of an actor, and she will find a way to make all these lines absolutely sing. And she's giving it to you in the AMC theaters. You can't get that from a streamer. You just can't. All Right, here

we go. Okay, this is Nicole Kimman's AMC speech for everyone that doesn't know. We come to this place for magic. We come to AMC theaters to laugh, to cry, and to care because we need that, all of us. The indescribable feeling we get when the lights begin to dim and we go somewhere we've never been before. Not just entertained,

but somehow are we born together? Dazzling images on a huge silver screen, sound that I can feel, somehow hotbreak like this, our heroes feel like the best parts of us, and stories feel perfect and powerful because here they are. We make movies. Be it a be a UM. I cannot do an Australian accent, especially whispy little American like Nicole does she? She she has her own little beautiful amalgam I mean. And as as for someone being born there,

it's truly shameful that I can't. Um. Let's let's let's see there was the Golden Globe nominations that came out today and critics choice, Um, do we care at all? Did anything get shaken up at all? I? I didn't. I didn't. I thought that I don't care. I just didn't pay attention, which I guess me. And it just says it all. I can tell you. It's a lot more of the same, but I will say some some good things are happening, like we might see Kirsten Dunn's

finally get a goddamn Oscar nomination. I need to watch. I need to see Power of the Dog. I need to see it too. I will sit through it and it'll be a nice movie to watch when I'm not busy with work. Can I quickly just talk about Succession? Oh my god? Yes, I know we are split between the two of us. I want you to I want you to go off. But I'm just saying, like of Jeremy Strong, no no, no, no no. I've just the

show in general. I know you do not enjoy it or have not watched it, don't care to watch it. Who cares about me? It's fine, I do don't. No, you're asking me to do something I don't want to do, so I care less care less about I just think, like the beauty of the show is that for most of the season, absolutely nothing happens like this is this, This This is how the show has been structured for all

three seasons. To my mind, it's that nothing changes in like the nine episodes or eight episodes leading up to the finale, and then the finale ship goes crazy and then you almost wanted to deliver on the promise of what the prior finally does or sets up, and then the farcticool thing is nothing has changed. It's all It all goes back to the same model of Logan has control, one of the children wants it, one of the children

wants to get it from him. HIV is being like the smart one who has it together, Romans being the impish trickster, Jeremy uh you know, Kendall is being like the self destructive time bomb. But like all of that is up ended in this finale and it's set up in the most genius ways. And I really fucking got chills, Like I was watching it and felt to myself and I'm sure you feel this way when you watch things, Matt is that I'm like, this is such an important

scene in television I'm just I watched these scenes. There's there's a scene where they like where the two siblings um Shiv in Rome have to like listen to like I have to watch their older brother, the favorite to get the company like break down and like confess to all these horrible things he's done. And it's just shot in the most beautiful way, like in rural Italy. And I just watched it and it was not on any drugs or anything. I was just like, this is such

a powerful scene. And then the last scene where like stuff happens like it's truly like it feels magical, like there's magic coming out of the screen. I'm like, Wow, this is I didn't realize TV could be like written like this, that it could be performed like this. I just I just thought it was fantastic. I just I kind of had my misgivings about this season, and I

was like, this isn't as good as season two. Like you needed a you needed a Holly Hunter, you needed an episode or two with Terry Jones in it, but like this season didn't really have that. But oh all that like pays all the boring stuff like pays off in the biggest way and you need you would fucking die for something. I'm certain that I would, and I trust me. Like, it's not that I it's not that

I haven't enjoyed the show. It's just that, with so much to watch, I just prefer, like, I don't know, because I know it's a show that I really have to sit down and absorb, and I have limited time to do that, and so it is a sit especially for it just takes a little bit longer for me to get off the ground with something like that. But what I have seen I do enjoy. And I think it's really smart of the show to remind everyone of

the actual power player, which is Logan. And I think that, like, it's really smart for the show to make the stakes that now all the characters know the only person really standing in the way of them and taking over is him. Like it's it's just very solidfu thing. That's what it always That's what it always resets to them. Man, Like Aaron Aaron Jackson was saying this like brilliantly. He was like, the show is half of it is Shakespeare's The show

is all Shakespeare on TV. Half of it is like Macbeth. The other half is like Midst of Nights Stream or like you know, like The Merchant of Venice or whatever. It's like it's half of its tragedy, half of its comedy. But they're both Shakespeare in the ways that they're executed, and I I think I agree with that. Of course it's hyperbolic, just like compared to Shakespeare, but like, I think that's what it's like trying to like strike the balance of and it's like a dramedy in the truest way,

in the truest sense. And I think that's what's exciting about what they did, is like in Shakespeare, once you realize that, like the king is like it's killed, and so like I think that's where it's heading. It's like they're gonna start. I think it's gonna be fun to see it get truly dark. Yeah, by the time season four comes out, I feel like, you don't worry, I'll be there. And I also like maybe even very soon I'll have watched. I also think, did you watch peep Show?

I should watch peep Show. It's the same it's the same people, it's the same guy who to peep Show. But anyway, the thing did you see what's what's been going on online to about the Jeremy strong of it all, like just like a Chess day and Anna Hathaway and all these people coming to his defense. I'm kind of like, you, guys, like you should have just let this blow over, because people will then seconds later be talking about how incredible he is in the Succession finale. People will move on

from this narrative. I don't know why all these actors that worked with him felt the need like they needed to go out and like be like, no, no, no, that's a one sided profile. He's incredible. It's like what how how dark is his reality that he needs from you guys? That's number one. Number two, It's like we all know, we all understand that actors are annoying like this, yeah, like it's fine, it's not And the fact is like that just shows how seriously they take themselves too. I

think it's just like very revealing. So then on that end, it's like, well then you got like a profile about an annoying person, people point out laugh at how annoying the person is. Then you have other annoying people come out and say like, hey, he's actually not annoying, Like it's like it's too much. All that is annoying, annoying, y'all. And I say this as an annoying that person about a two weeks in a row. I say this as

an annoying person. I'm like, you know, consider shutting the funk up, dusting your shelves or something like, there's there's stuff to do. Because also it's true, they're all whacko. You know, we know all actors are wacko. You don't need to like, it's not that big of a it's just not that deep. And let us just enjoy his performance now. I mean, like, he's unreal. He's so good, he's so good. Look if he's gonna if he's gonna be that crazy, at least you're getting it on screen.

Oh my god, him breaking down in this last episode was most some of the best acting I've seen in years. The Emmy is one. The Emmy is one. I am. I just think I love her to death. But like that the moment it like fully was like, oh this is crazy to me. Was seeing this whole Anne Hathaway post about him on Instagram. It was like, after the Jessica thing, It's right, I'm saying, why are we why

are we? Like and like literally she says, he's actually or something to the effective, he's actually really fun and I'm like, you're not helping either of you. It's whatever. But yeah, I mean I will watch it because if someone's gonna this is the culture bit of a performance and my sister talk about in this way, I am not going to be left out in the damn cald no shivering like a like a babe, babe. This is what I have to say to you. You gotta stick it out until you get to Holly Hunter, until you

get to Rate Rhea. I can't wait, and then you're set your coasting for the rest of the season. Two into three, three is gonna start. You're gonna be like, oh, this is gonna be good. It's gonna dip a little, it's gonna get a little boring again. But then Mr scarscard in Your Stars Scarred comes back in and then it gets interesting and then the finale is who who It's no, it's groo. It's the finale was the most

groo thing all year to me. It was absolutely that hundred period hundred period period says it's it's like this in quotes, hundred period says the snarky faggots. Oh on, look, your arms look big like this to put your your bone is rocking some guns, y'all. I don't want having sex. No, he's been having sex. It's okay, flyar fire. I know you've been rolling in the bed. You've been rolling in

the bed. What about what about you, honey? Per chance to drink out of the company of a gentleman just the other night, pret chance, chance to drink, for a chance to drink. Maybe I rolled in the sheets, got a foul Maybe I endeavored with my body okay. Maybe I set the bar sexually in the bedroom. Okay. Maybe I took a lover. Maybe I thrive have connecting with someone of a sexual nature. Maybe I look into someone's eyes as we entered each other. Oh, they love to him.

You looked in their eyes when you entered each other. I can't see the I can't make eye contact. This is the first flip fucking love love making, flip fuck love making. The only enter each other. I was only I was thinking that in terms of you guys entered each other at the same time, which is that that would be absolutely thrown Well, you picked two, Okay, you enter each other? Yeah, sounds good. It's at the same time you make eye contact. You can't do all three.

You can't. That's what sucks about being gay. You can't. You can't do it, your mom, you know what, you know, what's what rap about being gay? Sometimes they can't make eye contact and enter each other. You know, you know how vaginally if you gave me in with Dix, now let's move on and talk about Salt Lake City. Do we want to do a salta City up to Salt Lake City? And then I don't think so, honey. And also I want to say the finale of Survivor is this week, which I can't believe that I believe. I

need to catch up. I didn't watch last week's episode, but I will prediction prediction, prediction. I'm rooting for our our guy, for Card Card Baby, come on coming through. Okay, likes not like, I mean, a fine episode. I still nothing's really changed for me. I did think that Lisa had one of my favorite quotes in a long time, which is, um, I'm not gonna do the impression, but she says, you know, Heather and Whitney probably count Lisa

Barlows in their sleep. They go and I'm just imagining many an army, a line of Lisa Barlow's jumping across the fence, popping across the fence on it on a beautiful green hill. I'm obsessed. Also, I can't believe Whitney put her whole savings into the work, but she's gonna make it work. Because if I believe in one North Star, it's Whitney Rose. All I thought about when I saw

her on my screen was go off, go off. I support her all the way she will never never not, she will never disappoint me, and the way that she said at the end of the episode. If I'm going to take Mary down, I need support. I love it. I think Whitney is We would be honored to have Whitney in the universe of Lost Cultures. The conversation has begun. I'm obsessed with the breakdown of Meredith and Lisa's friendship beginning.

Like Meredith really her voice, They're like I like that at all or whatever she said, Like it was just it's really heading in the right direction. What did you think of Jen being like, well, first of all, like maintaining the line when she said that they they they had her son at gunpoint. My heart really did break

because I was like, this is very real. Is the fact that like that footage that they showed of the ring camp that really bothered me, Like because honestly, like we see ship like that go wrong all the time and post everything that's gone on in the past few years with police brutality, Like if your heart doesn't go out to someone whose kid had a situation with the police like that, like a young black man, like who

has a situation like that with the police? I don't know, Like Jen is a violent person, I think, and she is like likely like going to prison, But my heart did go out to her there because she probably also felt responsible for it because she is sure she because she is Yeah, um uh, I mean it looks like the rest of the episodes of this season are going to be a barn Burners bangers. So that's that's all. Um. This this was like a decent episode. Nothing really happened.

I mean, it's setting up the state. What did you think of Jenny's daughter, who's like a forty three year old woman. Find cute cue precocious little girl. Love it. We love to see it, like the way that she laughs and has opinions about food. She really is like an old woman. Yeah, well, I think it's time for I don't think so, honey. I think this is a fabulous time for. I think this is a fabulous time. Do you have something I deal? Okay, this is beautiful.

What I love to hear. This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey. I try to make a big purchase and Chase shuts it all down. Girl, Just let me use my damn card, please, or just don't worried send me that's like, is it you? I'll say yes, but don't make all the cards not work. I'll be in a place and like it'll be like one, two, three, cards all don't work and it's all Chase. And it's

because like suspicions activity. I'm going around to different cities right now. I'm a little bit of a traveler. Just send me a text and confirm it to me. Don't just like make the card, don't just decline the card please. Then I have to struggle with my girl. I don't think so honey that I have to hang out with my girl at the counter for that long as she watches me like struggle, but please help Chase. You are the bank, and I want to go to the bank and get access to my dollars. Please. I want to

buy this little jacket by this gift. I want to buy this. I don't think that's girl. You got to call out them up and say I don't want to get on the phone with them. I don't think there's any reason for me to ever talk to my bank. That's just the position I take. That's how I was raised. That's not quite helpful, Like eventually, when you buy a house or something, you want to be able to know how to talk to your bank. I don't know. It's not a relationship. I think it's healthy for me. Okay,

that's respect. I respect that. Thank you for at least respecting me, even if you can't agree. Because when we come on this podcast and debate cultural topics, I don't ask that you agree with everything I say. But when I really think, I just want you to respect me and have a little bit of respect. That's literally all I ever asked. Okay, and I hope that's all I ever give you on my honor. Good. I would hate to have to come over there and snack you around.

I'm looking for my clock side. That's why I'm staring with this boy. Okay, this is so I don't think so, honey, And as time starts now, I don't think so, honey. The full way of this Peloton thing we played out so in the end it was like product placement. It was like a fucking partnership deal, like the fucking ad that came out today on Monday of Chris Note and Jess King iconic instructor. Jess King, do you know doing I'm you know, a little cute double entendre thing by

the fire. Oh, let's hop back on. You want to do it again? I'm feeling great. And then you have Ryan Reynolds coming in with a little cute voice over thirty seconds. I love everyone involved. I just hate that we were all basically fooled into thinking that this was a completely like everyone was common by by surprise, including Peloton. That feels so campy to me. But now the fact that this was a long walked with commercial all along makes me sick, Make me sick, want to vomit the

bile out of my stomach. I think this we all got duped, and it actually is no longer fun. I actually have less respect for the move of killing Big on Peloton than I used to. That's one minute. I have to tell you that for that, for them to be like we have to fit in Peloton, we have to say it so many times I have Big die on it. But but but girl, in the end, that's

not what it was. Like I think like Peloton was eventually they made aware before like they made it seem like this past week and that they were they saw it for the first time along with the rest of us. They didn't they knew was coming. And then they shot this fucking commercial weeks in advance too, Like it did not all come together, and like there was no way they could have shot that and executed that in the in the days that the show had been out. There's

no way. You're right there, and so like it was, it was gam I'm saying, like we all like we're kind of line to that we were forced fed Peloton. Yes, yes, so anyway, Allegro was iconic. I love when she said celebrate yourself. Jess King doing a lightly lightly Spanish accent, not a lightly Spanish, just doing a Spanish accent. We'll we'll go ahead, and say yes to that one. We're gonna accept. We're going to accept what a thrilling, snarky, faggy episode this was. You know, we definitely came up

with our fucking faggy snarky opinions this time. Right. I think I thought we brought the SNAr and we brought the fag a tree to like sort of repellent snarky, disgusting motor mouth noxious gaze. And they're gay. They're so gross talking about come. One of them is white, one of them is Asian, Asian Chinese. If I had to guess first thought, if I go first thought Chinese, I guess, are they cute? I mean, I'm maybe they're interesting. They're

interesting looking. One of them like their hands are both kind of weird. I really think I have weird hands. Do you have beautiful hands? And look at the look at my hands? No, they're beautiful. Your hand is so beautiful. Can I say something though, hands? And this is not just to say no, no, no, this is what I'm gonna say. If you look at fingers and hands for too long, it's like that thing of when you look at a word too long and it becomes like a

weird word, hands hands are so. Look at me. Look at what I'm doing right now, the way I'm shaking my fingers. We need to put this point on the internet. Hands are so. Hands are yeah, Like, look at the way they move their fingers. It looks like I'm looking at my hand and it looks like a logo for something like it shouldn't belong on my body. It's like to like even there's like four long things and then one short one on the side, like who who foo

decided that? Since when did you have that peloton tattoo across your palm? What? Oh the logo? No, I'm saying, but the design, the outline of my hand looks like it it's it doesn't belong on a human body. I'm telling you. That's when you really realize that we're all aliens is when you look at our girl fingers. And that's that's all I have to say about that. Readers, we hope you have a great holiday season a great new year. We're wishing you all the best. Tiding Wow.

Thank you. Honestly, to add on a really earnest note, thank you for listening to us all year. Yes, thank you, we love you. You forgot this was the last one of the year. God, bless God. This was it. This was it. This was kind of a doozy of a year. And thank you for like sticking with us. And you know there was that there was that serotonin deficit era.

I think you out of that. Thank you for being along with us for all the seasons like I mean, I mean this, and like the seasons of the show in terms of the seasons of our lives like beautiful we I think you know, if you go back and listen, not that you would or that you would be interested or that would benefit you too, but I think you can really track our emotional journeys this year, and I think the best is yet to come the next year. The best is yet to come. The best is yet

to come. Well, we love you so much, readers, have a happy New Year. And we always close out with the song A Greatnce Oh God, love dout you for O for God, little old oh Lee. Yeah. Fine,