"Sisters" (w/ Aaron Jackson & Josh Sharp)

and I forgot that that does that. It's a body high, it's a very like yeah yeah yeah. And so I got home the other night and I was like, oh it was fun. It was fun for me. Okay, good, Um, what do you do? You know what? Um? My sister might be listening to this, So what? Um? You know? Because I've been on the same Sativa cartridge for like the last three months. I buy weed like once a fucking year, and on this Sativa cartridge it's not doing it for me. So you know what, I'm looking to

change it up. Okay, So anyway, well, anyway, horny for another reason, I'm horning for our guests. I'm also horning for our guests, and they can't even imagine what would happen if I had some indicate in me right now, Oh my god, the world I had be showing them my world. By the way, Urban dictionary for my world, it's your asshole. Yeah. So when we so, when you guys hear say let me show you my world, it means let me show you my asshole. So we have on two more two timers with us. Isn't this funny?

We've really turned a corner and started inviting people on for two times and look, you know, and there are I never I never coined the term. I mean, I never coined the two timer club term for us. That was sort of forced foisted upon us by Brian foss Um. Some people keep score, some people keep scoring. That's not us. We don't do that. But our two guests are really resplendent. They kind of got in on the ground floor. They

are resplendent, They are respected, respected. Come on, honey, um, you can see them as the two amazing correspondents on the opposition with Jordan Klapper Nightly Baby Not on Saturday and Sunday bitch, so yeah, weeknights UM and they also host the incredible shows all around town a Geisha for all people, we will turn you gay. Just do you host that? Or is that more of a com well we'll get into well get into it. But they are just the sort of the curators of all um. You know,

sis gay talent in this city. I would say, don't forget white and white. So he's welcome our gasts. Sorry, Sharp and Aaron Jackson. I hadn't been invited in yet, but I just had to make sure the viewers. You can never forget why I have something to say on the tally and the times that just occurred to me because yes, we were two timers. But if somewhere were to ask how many times have Aaron or Josh been on the show, you could say four? Oh for the

live No, I'm talking about there's two of us. This is really okay, and so it's sort of like that we've done four appearances. Aaron, what do you think? I think? Math was never my strong suit, but I support everyone who loves it. What was what was English? Honey? She has been a word? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I was good at English too, and that famously left me for now, I don't know my words by doing on my heart,

it's none of my phrases. Isn't that funny? It's so funny? Um, you guys all did theater, not really, not really for me. We had a bad theater program at my little high school. Is that why you didn't do it? Because it was bad? Well, I mean like we didn't do plays and Josh's Josh's sporty and I was a little spoilier then. And when I got to college and I did comedy stuff and that was like my entree, and I think we're very similar. I was like a funny boy who I think if

there had been a better theater program. I did speech club. I did like speech and debate forensic so I would do shortensic spitch and I would do the funny speeches. Okay, is that what that's called forensics? Because is the c S. I that's forensics science. That's forensic science. Okay, Well, there you go. And I was a theater fact, absolutely absolutely. But here's a big question which I think, Um, we're finding a lot of gays have in common. Um, who

here did the morning announcements? So I have a tragic story about that, which is that in elementary school there was a time when they didn't regularly have people do morning announcements, but they would just like pick people sometimes when something special it happens. So my class had gone to the Lenville Caverns, and so they were like, we want you to come and do note the morning announcements and tell about your class trip to the Linville cavern stem. So I was like, oh my god, I'm doing like

a whole thing. So and for whatever reason at that time, I in that way where you're like have latched onto some adult thing. I thought Robin Leech's Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous was funny. So that was like a character I was gonna do. And I was gonna like be Robin Leach talking about my class going to the

fabulous Linvill Caverns. And I had like a little I had like things plan and so I went to the office and I was like, I'm gonna do this, and they saw I had like a little box of ship to do because it was on video, and they're like no, no, no, just like come on, say hi, which class and where you went and you're done. And so I just did that and then I cried walking down the halls coming she that probably scarred you in many ways. Probably actually, I haven't thought of that in a while, but yeah,

that that did occur. That's when you got into sports. And then and then I played competitive tennis, really tennis. Yeah, I did tournaments, but then I got I started to become a choke artist in high school and I sort of got worse. Is that when you're into choking or yes, um, I personally love tennis and that did you play in high school? Never played? I don't play anything, um, but

I do love tennis. I love to watch. I find the men attractive, and I find them and the women and they have to squat in the shorts, ride up the tennis. Soccer is the hottest of sports, I think, Yeah, but soccer you don't get to focus on an individual the way you do with tennis and watch. I agree that soccer players are generally hotter. They're running around the running a muck. You can't quite grab him, where as

tennis you're like, I'm looking at him and him. I don't mythologize, I don't disagree, which I love what you're saying. And the men are the men are hot and the women are inspiring, and what more can you ask of the genders? That's actually the culture number sixty two in tennis. The men are and the women are inspiring, and that those are the genders that yes, nothing rules are the two genders that your first there are two Culture number sixty three, there are two genders. No strike that strike,

strike that stright that from the record. There are amendments to the rules of culture. Absolutely, we never can We don't know that they are, but like we have to announce them. Like if we do want to, let's say amend that rule that we just to clear, we would say amendment numbers whatever number one, number one amendment. It has to then refer to a past rule basically something about it. That would just be a new rule. Numerically, there's they don't correspond because it's not like Amendment six

prime referencing rule six. That's too much or that's too much. It's up to you. I can do a prime system. I can fox with the prime system. I think Raphael and Nadal has the best. But but but he's getting hurt. His legs are getting hurt too much, so you don't get to see it. When I was a young tennis player, not as much sexually, but sort of sexually. I was in Andre Agassy, but he was also just like a bad boy and you liked it. He was like fucking

up tennis. Djokovic I think is really very attractive. I don't know. Djokovic is um the number one player in the world. Maybe not at the exact moment, but has been in recent times. Him up. These are the moments you wish for Brendon Scott. I was gonna say, Scott Jones is listening Opine. He's burning wrong, literally in his head. He's like just lost on clay. You know, he knows, just lost on Wait. What about Andy Roddick? We like him and he was not the cutest, but he's the

one who who banged the ball into the clay. And he dated Mandy Moore, which is fun, which is very that's fun and gay, very good, many more gay, it's right. Pete Sampris dated Oh shoot me, okay, do you remember the love interest in Billy Madison, the blonde third grade teacher. Pete Sampris and her were married, and I love in Sampris, Yes, and so I loved that for Pete Sampras, and so I was very honed in on him, and that. I also think it's gay to date the love interest of

Adam Sandler and Billy Madison. Now way, I'm about to say something that I don't think it's true, but I think it's warm ish to the truth, which is that obviously dated like Madonna it was. It's facts. I don't know if it's true, but I think it's back. Wait, I think they had an acrimonious divorce. I'm not sure. If I don't think he was I think he did drugs and she was like, I can't. McEnroe, I think was an abuser. Macronro's son is fucking insane on the dating apps, and I will, oh my god, keep I

will say this go. He has tossed me around and wait, actually no, no, no, no, no no. On the apps heel he'd be like, yeah, we should definitely hang out, and I'm like cool, and then flakes And then I hear from him like eighteen months later, it's you need to put in your profile no flakes because of macinrow Son. Yes, honestly, he's he's he's very like Macamish. I will say, yeah, he's Macineroish. I will say macros handsome in the um

in the very traditional mold of um. His father white gay attractiveness that I have, you know, tried to abandon means hot, which is wrong exactly. No, he just has like a jawline. I can't even really picture him right now. Okay, wait, what's the hottest part of a body? Wow? I think it depends on the purse. It's so it depends on

the hottest person. You can imagine what's their hottest body part? Again, I think it because sometimes you're into like, oh, this person is like classically like white boy next door handsome, and then that guy might look at his chest. But then you're a little sleeky, little heroin attic looking guy and I'm like, I guess I like wrists, you know what I mean? Like it just really does? I think it depends. I want to wait. I just want to

quickly apologize. I don't think Brooke Shields was abused. Okay, I don't know. Actually a really good friend of mine, so um and you actually thought that, And I do actually think you're wrong. I know they had a tumultuous like there's been it was not good and I think he did and we could be wrong. I think he did. He did. He was a bad boy on the record

that he did drugs. He was a bad boy. We have to tread lightly in this new era of accusations because we can't sling them willy nilly around the place, especially because everyone knows last coature is all about the facts and you accurate. We knew that Hugh Hefner was dead months before here. When you'll famously break a lot of abuse stories on the pod, no, I'll say one time, you guys said, everybody relaxed like, this is not factually accurate,

and it did, like, let me listen to it. Yes, we get as a lens through which to hear the next it's three hours. We don't know our words. It was. It was a release for me to be like, I don't need to care about you know what language was that. It was an emotion, Honey, it's whatever time. This is what we're feeling at the time. Do not misconstrue them as factual. Absolutely, I'm not even sure Brookshields is a human. Yeah, you're not sure. I know I'm sure because I've seen her.

But you've seen her and you're not sure. Think that's valid. Here's what I think Donald Trump might not even be president. We haven't seen it. I haven't seen it in my eyes in the room. That's you know, rule number a hundred of culture. It's what you're feeling at the time. Look, now that we're on Babie, let's get into it. We're here. Um. This is sort of a little reunion because the last time Josh and Aaron came on, we discussed at length. Um.

Not at nauseum though, because no one was sickening. Oh and Josh, I just remembered I had my as you see, the text says all these queens are my son's which means she's the first winner, we think, and also a sort of throwing shade that maybe they look like boys. It doesn't entirely make sense, which is sort of her brand. Now. I gotta say, just from a design perspective, that T shirt is almost all the way there except for that

fucking type face. It doesn't exactly look like Kurt. I don't think it looks like I think the face is right. I think I agree. It's for me. It's the text. It's a little but maybe that's her handwriting. If you told me that was a bob shirt, I'd be like, oh, it's like a not good Bob shirt. You know what I mean. It's like, no, it's not racist. I think it looks a lot like bb to me. Listen, I just bought flights to Berkeley to see Bob as believes and Angels in America, which means I'm not ready. You

spent money. I'm a freak for Angels. I think I'm a freak for Angels in America. Is working out for Angels? He's looking pretty snatched. Oh, he's at the gym everything. What are you going to do? You're in a play, horrible, you have to work out? Back to All Stars. You know who's looking good? Cheat Chew love the new hair and loved her confession. We have to get it. We have to break down every single thing. We just okay, just let's all agree we will in the podcast till

we break down every single single thing absolutely soul. So yes, we're talking about season three, this episode, and we've now been given a winner, right, and the winner is Trixie Mattel had another you know, white blonde to they All Stars Hall of Fame. I guess she's a bond Yeah. By the wig, I would say I've just got that too for a second, but then I was like, I really ask No, I'm just saying like I don't. We're going to see that tableau for the next two years

or so, and it's you're lucky in the fall. I think that, um, it's even more of a reason to give all stars forts sa. I think I think she has a strong chance or Kim has an incredible thing is that I think what I fear, No, I think Kim Cannon should win. I fear that they that her narrative, narrative has been told because she did like fucking slay in a way that it's like, what new can she do? She hasn't come out to mommy yet. She has not

come out to mommy. It's either that happens or she comes and she's like I learned to tap and like, what the funk? Or what if coming out to your mother is a challenge and all starts for him wins it because but I think if him is there, she can win. That's interesting. That that's very that's really good, TV ladies. Today's challenge actually calling her mother on the phone and coming out to her. Wait, can I full drag?

Can I offer an idea. Upon that idea, what if the challenges every contestant comes out to kim Che's mom or they all tell her that kim Ch is gay? Okay, okay, what if everyone? But what if Kimchi isn't on the season and the challenges out Kimchi to her mother in a creative way, like a promposal. But it's like throwing each other under the bus moment, forget it. We're not just eliminating each other, We're ruining everyone's life. And it's all BTS one take and that chef. I will tell

you this. I cried watching the challenge. Okay, so we're talking about the finale. It's not about Okay, So the finale was a BTS one takes. Can I ask what behind the scenes? Um? I also loved the challenge. I cried on Changel's verse deserved Angel that I got the whole world saying hallelluu. I was like, she does and she's been here for such a long time, and then for her not to win, I was like, oh man right,

and I am I'm a UM. I don't like Angela, I'm not, but I thought she did a great job in that verse, and I'm shocking that she wasn't in the final two. It is shocking, what I'll say, as I said after last season, and this is not necessarily to you, but probably is to the queen's at home. The only rule is that Rue makes the rules, so like, don't get mad that she kept making them. And here's the thing. You can say all days, Angela should have won.

But it's like the game is just rude does whatever the hell real wants and I'll see about which is what I love about the show. Right, she's certainly gotten better at drag like that's undeniable. But if you will remember in season three, she was fucking she was so annoying, and if it's like up to queens to vote, it's like, I don't I think she's probably annoying, right, that's what I imagine annoying. But did you ever watch Untouched season three? Oh?

I didn't watch. She she was a lot. She's a psych. She's a psych, she's a p So I would believe that she has those experiences in the flesh with queens. Yeah, I bet that happens at backstage of fucking Mickey's every weekend with some other queen. And so I would believe that when they were voting, all of them were like, Angela, you're so good, while they wrote down Kennedy right, she is fabulous. But I could I could imagine that a bunch of people were like, I mean, here's my rebuttal to,

here's my rebuttal on. This might feel circular my room bottle. To Josh's point about room makes the rules, there's no rule except room makes the rules. But then that sort of completely for me, de legitimizes the title or the crown. I think the saimate I think I think RuPaul's drag race regular seasons. It should be legitimate, and I think

they're heading down a dangerous path. While I thought the finale of season nine was fucking amazing, I thought it was especially to to put that season um, to put the lip syncs front and center, I thought was genius for that season. However, moving forward, I don't think it's necessarily the most legitimate way to decide a winner. I do think Sasha Valore one season nine, but it's tough to say. If Sasha hadn't been there or done what she did, it would be tough to give it. To

say Peppermint over fucking Shay or Trinity. I mean they just did better in the competition. Peppermin went out there in some outfits that were which usually means then Rude doesn't pick you, but ru has some reason to pick you. Them's the rules, because this is how every episode of the show has been since the beginning, which is what

I love about it. What I do think is we've crossed a place where it used to be that she was sort of dragging a reality shown away, where it's like, I am really doing a reality show, but I'm also sort of mocking it. The idea that this is a show that's decided by nothing other than Rue going you to fight for me. I've decided you like there's no external rules at all is hilarious. But now we've basically fully pushed into a space where we just treat it

like an actual reality show that should have rules. And I don't know that that's what the show ever was. I think the show, but the show has sort of changed to that. I'm gonna say the show has sort of gone out of this zone of being like like a parody of itself, like it's it's it is starting to take itself too serious. I think that All Stars is different than RuPaul's drag Race. I think All Stars is not meant to be taken seriously. I think the

Hall of Fame is fake. I think that you can call them a winner whatever, but RuPaul's drag race is real, and All Stars is for y'all entertainment. And to quote to quote Judge, this season Adam Lambert, Okay, I loved Adam Lambert so beautiful. I think, um, I think that the lip sync was fun for season nine. I bet he'll change it again something. That's what I think. They'll probably do it for ten or maybe even eleven and then be like, Okay, this is boring, you know, just

like they started doing the live show. But I do think you're right season nine, and I don't know how much this was produced in a in a advance or was just a lucky thing became a season about the lip sync made some sense to redeem it, I know, but it did thematically make sense in a way that I could see them doing something else with season ten, just because that felt so tied into the NARRAA. What I want to say is I can't believe fucking Queen this season new and they all had to keep it

quiet because they were all there. Well, they filmed two winners, of course, right right, right, but that's still a lot like usually you see. I guess you know, they shoot Kennedy winning and they shot Tricksie winnings is my understanding of what happened, and then they showed take It Back Tricksy winning. I assume that Texi knew she won one the episode aired, right, it's boring, I mean not boring. It really maybe she didn't know, maybe she didn't watch it.

Maybe she wouldn't ben she's gonna wake up in the morning to a bunch of texts. Truly boring that it was down to two season seven queens. But also it doesn't really matter. I don't think it's boring. I mean, like, look the whole season. The whole season was boring. It wasn't more boring or last boring. I thought that it would have been more interesting to watch it be sch Angela versus tricks because they were the ones that were there.

And I very much agree. Okay, but wait, but I think what I believe is that Rue wants Tricksie to win, and so it's like they made a bunch of moves from Tricksie win. But we were talking Ben the liquids, and then you find a way to get Channgel out of the top two. Then it's like there's no case to be made other than Trixie went. But when and I were saying, we think and tell me if you agree, okay, that it's more interesting for Trixie and Katia to not

have one. We can runner up. You have the runner up like sex appeal totally like a raven two time runner up, like you know, you have the like oh they never got it, but they're cooler like Alyssa Alyssa not not even as a runner up but no, no, no, but like if Alyssa had one, would be like, actually she kind of sucks sometimes, but she was that and then Alaska one and didn't change anyone's opinions. Is like truly,

I think she's in a league of her own. Like to her and Bianca, like a couple others are like, well they're like a but with but with Tricksy it's like, oh she's she's the third all star, um, but also she's oh for four on lip sinks, Like how does like how does not anymore? Yeah? I mean yeah, one one one five, Well, who did you want? You want

to change a little one. I'm talking for me. I want to changel you want I didn't care for for ch Angela, But in this episode the build up was such that but what did you want in your heart? Not to and now that like Trick is who I went in wanting, and then it just like I was like, it doesn't matter to me anymore that you am, and then I wanted. I wanted. It was so funny, and then they tried to give her this smear campaign and

this lap. It was like, give me a break. She's fabilous job to go up to the person who started this baby as a moll bullshit slap them in the things because it because it took away from my experience of enjoying baby. Can I say something today that I said to Aaron, which was that thinking back on that, like, imagine that was true, and imagine the moment in the show where Babe breaks to them that she is the most like. Imagine her trying to even explain it to them.

That's how we should know that it never would have happened. You have to see that I I've been watching you and they're like, what have you seen that the cameras didn't see. But I can read you the moment. It's like, yeah, but there's cameras everyone producers to everything. But but I know that, particularly logistically, imagine never made sense from which is why it was so stupid to even commit time

thinking about because it never made any sense. Like what if the cameras can see everything and Rucy's everything already as the executive producer, Like what if she need be People love to also when people were like Rue was shocked when no fucking Ruth saw her do it was like, yes, bitch, do is hell? Yes? Okay, wait should we go queen by queen and talk about how we think they did to that? That's fun. That's we're here, We're there, We're there, we're talking. We don't get to go to the moment.

Let's go through the order of elimination factor in some room for tennis talk in case it comes out. Yeah, I will say it will go around. The more you go around. My final word on Morgan, you know she will get She'd be selling more tickets to Mickey's in West Hollywood. Tickets are flying off the shelf to go see her stand around and be a bitch at Mickey's. What honey, she didn't show any other talents because guess what, honey, she is just a good drag queen. This is this.

This season was good for Mickey's. Sell Lord drinks Mickey's. Yes, Michael's not a world tour drag queen. This has been another segment of Matt Rogers. My final word on Morgan. That's my final word on Morgan posted up at Mickey's. You're selling the tickets bitch for me Morgan. I was glad to have her back. I love when they bring back an old and I don't mean old age, I mean old school queen. Like I love a bb I love a Morgan, I love a Tatiana. But I think

she's just not good at drag race. She's just she's not going to drag race. No versatile, not versatile. She's a very basic drag queen, and she's good at being a basic. But you're right, she's Mickey's through. We're gonna get your turn, bitch, fuck you stop it, stop doing this. So um, all I'll say is that I think, yeah, Morgan was trying really hard to be good at reality TV, not read um. And that's all I have to say, Josh, I, you know, I just agree with my sisters so much here.

I think you've all said everything. Okay, I have an idea. I think she's basically the other way, Josh start and Josh, you're going to talk about Thorgi. Thorg Thorpe so sad that it was sort of a bad look for Thorgy this season because I think, I mean, I was gagged for Thorgie's look tonight ly silver lip, I mean wow, So those were looks that from that they didn't get to use for challenge. That's what I'm presuming you noticed that two of them were in red A had that

devil and that a full Liz Taylor. And so I think there's probably a lot of bad things to be said about Thorgi with this season. But I still just sort of like Thorgi that I'm just like, I feel bad. I'm like, it was a bad look for you, but I still don't like you. But it was a bad look. She just came off so petty. She came up well I don't yeah, a little petty, but also just embittered, wish like, you know, not good look, not a good look, but like listen, famously. I've had dinner with her, and

I love Georgy. I love the performer in the bar scene and just as a person like she's just like to her birthday shows with Oscar Beck, she was painted as a duck. She was painted, she had a duck face her birthday. It was fab. She has an amazing lip sync that she does of someone leaving a pharmacist at TVs leaving a prank um prank delivery, prank like prescription refil notification of we have your micro penis medication

and it's so funny. Um not that not that you know phallax size is funny, but just like the whole that is what you said. So that's all again, I'll say Thorgy in the bar scene, one of my favorite queens. And this okay, So this is a call to arms for the listeners at home. You gotta go see your little one thing. It's one thing. It doesn't mean you're bad at Drag if you're bad at that show. If you are on the internet with a hot take about Drag queen, and I know you've never seen Drag live,

I do not listen. I don't care, I don't know anything. And you don't know, you don't know anything. Do you throw at a bar and you're having the time of your life? And I do think she did come across as embittered. They probably put every single time she mentioned Bob the drag queen on the show, and she probably mentioned her four times, but they put him all like it's like she's obsessed. It's like they're probably and what about Bob? And she answers the questions could you do

it where you say his name? So it's like I think it's it's cruel and unusual. But I don't think she I don't think she sang you know. And also I thought her she should have said I thought her fiddle playing cartwheel was a gag. It was a gag. No. It's like you can say no, but if you were in the gay bar, you'd be pulling down your panties, like made a face at you that was like you see what you'd say? I relate, Wow, Okay, well I

would say I think that I loved Orgy. But I really thought that my sister's really answered every day that really could have been talked. So I think that we're just gonna move this way, and he's gonna talk about milk. Here's the thing. I did a gag from milks looked on this episode with the lacey eyelashes and the lacey lip.

But also but that's the thing. It's like on such on the Veneer cracks so easily with milks, like and like you know, compelling factors and dragons like oh like you just you just tap the brulet surface and then everything underneath is like just just too just too gooey. I don't get it, and it's not for me. I only want the crust, you know what I'm saying. I want the crusty milk. It was a bad look. It was a bad look from this milk. You know. It's

just like you can't be disconnected from reality. So the cognitive business, how much of that stuff was also like

a producer, I'm always willing to consider that. But yeah, but no, I did feel a little remorse from her in the Bring Back episode when I when she started crying, because I was like, I think you do not know this stuff, and you should probably know this stuff, but I see how in this in your shoes right now you are being believe because you're like, I don't know, I didn't know I was mean, everyone's just telling you. You mean, I don't really feel sympathy, but I was like,

I get where you're why you feel bad. There was one you need to learn. There was one moment in the Bringback episode where she is talked. She refers back to the season six Hip Hop Challenge and they cut to her and talking into It's like, I was most definitely the best cognitive, but that was being sarcast because then but then her lip curls a little bit and you're like, Oh, she's in on this. So that's what

I'm That's what I'm like struggling with. Like, I mean, Milk is like just a little a little nutty to the floor. Okay, I think that Milk is more in on the joke than everyone knows. However, I do think that Milk is an emotional person who has affected a lot by stimuli. Emotionally, Yeah, I think that's milk to a tear. Milk is a laugh away from a tear. And I think that Milk is very fun And I think if you saw Milk perform with all her gadgets and gizmos at funny wherever you want to sing, She's

got twenty who who cares the big deal, it's milk. Honestly, I thought that milk was a bizarre choice for All Stars, but it was fun. It was fun drama and fun to watch for a little while and touched the fashion change. Joe. I would love to say that my sister said everything, but I don't think they did. I think milk is a good example of, um, how if someone is not in the KKK, they can still show white supremacy. So

here's someone who's like, I never know I'm hot. I never knew, I didn't know, and it's like, yeah, this is this is like being rewarded for mediocrity there. And then you're suddenly being like, wait, we don't like you, and it's like, but you do. I'm hot and I think I'm a boy, ha boy And I think you're drag is worthless? What do you mean? You know? Like

I cry. So I think it's just like this is a good example if you needed to show someone they're like I don't think that that person is a white supremacist. It's like, right, they're not burning crosses but benefiting from ast No. And I think it's the thing where it's like I don't mean like whatever. I think some of her looks are cool on Instagram, but it's one of those things where it's like, look up imp Kid on Instagram.

It's like everyone's like Milk first. If it's like Milk puts tape on her face and where's boy clothes and we're like drag And I love that. I love gender fuck, but it's also like she's not like imp Kid is like, oh always has a p o V with every single where you're like, I've never seen that, You're you're the weirdest thing, and people are treating her like she's acid Betty or something where it's like she's just like doing gender fox, which is very cool, but it's not like

you're You're not. She's not changing drag me in the way. I think she gets a lot of credit for, which I think is people jerking off to her. Picks you. Yeah, for sure, I don't think that Milk. And I say this with a lot of love, with a grain of milk, I don't. I don't know if Milk is an all star, if Milk just look the way he looks right, if Milk is quote unquote ugly. But also I don't know. I thought Milk was good in The Kitty Girls. I

don't want to talk too much, That's what I'm saying. Like, I like, I I have enjoyed some looks, you know what I mean. I feel like there's a world where we all meet Milk and have a great fucking time. You know what I mean? That world exists. We're one degree away from Milk. Well, she was at Julius the other night, friends with friends of ours. You know that makes me anxious. Um, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna We're gonna talk about miss cheat Cheet. We're gonna start with

Aaron Jackson. So Chee Chee obviously fabulous didn't do a great job in the season, but was the fault of the show. She should not have been in the bottom in that Patti label, and she should have been in the top. What do you think the top was? Who it was? No? It was and Ben and Changel had the best scripts b B. I thought did a great performance, but I also thought she was great original screener. Yes, exactly. Yeah.

And so I think Cheech then became a self defeating prophecy after that episode, and they were never going to let her win. And it was like that was the moment like, oh, she can't win. She did a great job and they put her in the bottom. She should have at least been saved. Milk was garbage, and celindone that what are you thinking about? And CHEECHI they were laughing their asses off the whole time for cheat sheets, Like I wonder if the producers are like, let's give

cheech another underdog narrative for this time. We've seen her do it before where she's risen above, and I think it just didn't work. I was shocked that it wasn't better this season from Cheechy because there has been a couple of years for her to get better. I know people that have seen che she perform as of late and say that she she absolutely fucking destroys. In fact, she was I was saying that I was positive the top two would be Tricksy and Cheechy. I thought that

she had a chance to win. When you see the top ten, like, I don't know. I thought that chech was going to be so much better. It's bizarre to me that she still hasn't like claimed um her full stardom yet, but I guess, you know, I think where she's from, it's well, she's the anti milk and that she did a bad job and knew she did a bad job, which I love was frankly just like girl, you know what that was? That? I love that because because I don't even think she did a bad job.

She did a pretty good job. Every week there's a little bit of being a dead horse. I think there's a little bit of bendola and a che chee who's probably just like I don't want to do this, like I'm not good at this. She's south aware. You put me in the club, I will kick and twirl and do a split for you and you will be fucking gag. But now you tell me I got so a thing and being a bachelorette challenge, like I just don't want to do it. Jes because you're bad at drag race

does not mean your bad at all. To arms, go to bars and see your local queens. The final word on CHEECHI, um, you know what my sisters have said, everything is okay, So I guess that means we're gonna start with and that does a boy chee and again confession look with confession, Look, I would give it to babe's a hair, But now I loved rape. You're right, you're right, you're right. Well, um, I guess it's my turn to start talking about Miss Aja. Queen just bitch

is on fire off. She has amazing talent, she has an amazing look, she has an amazing spirit. She has there's a new music video. I will say this right here and now. That devil look was a gay horns. I wonder she made them. I thought her makeup was wonderful, that kind of white face and the white hair and the rest of the red. I think that Aja was given the second raw steal in the competitions, the first being Channgela for not winning. So that's my opinion on A. That was a hit job on. It was a hit

job on. Here's why I'll say it's even a bigger shame than Changela, because at least they basically, like we've said before, like made a system. We're like the Queen's vote. It's like, I'm sorry, Channgel, but they voted Asha was just like they built a totally false narrative for why she did so that they could send her home. What are you talking? A week before she was crystal a beige and then and then they were like you don't know your references the week she was your history is obnoxious.

Also rubying, like the seventies weren't that long ago? Yes, they were a bitch, Yeah, they were over forty years ago. Actually, her look wasn't that far off. She tweeted, like, just so you all know, I'm having people that were asked to fifty four tell me that they wore similar things. You know what? Sucking cutting edge queens probably did wear that in the seventies and about the eighties, people like, oh, we should dress like them, remember that three years ago? Yeah,

I don't know. I didn't like that. I also thought her soup. They were like, you're not sweet, You're spicy. I was like, yeah, but like her aesthetic image is sweet. You know what, stupid challenge? Your challenge wasn't good. It was you know the word it was. It was so bad. You can't you can't even give her a read for how did your bad thing? Yeah, you know the word have. I have the dumbest thing for you to do right now, soup. I have the dumbest thing for you to do right now.

Do it for me. You look dumb? Yes, I know you made me do a dumb thing. Oh you're not. You're spicy. Also not a can of fucking soup, You're dumb, idiot branding. These branding challenges making me laugh. So they only work when they do the like political stuff, because make a thing something. I'm just so interested to see them, Like with the graphic designer, like because on that like okay, I went wrong, Like it's so weird, like that's what that challenge was, like are you good at graphic design?

And thoughts on as okay? Aja Queen. I love her. I love that she is both smart and stupid, and she's very high low. She said the words, um, I'm thinner, I'm skinnier, I'm more beautiful when she was talking about milk at a drag show once. Um oh I did have a very cogent thing to say about her. Oh I loved love that. In this finale episode during the deliberation, she was asking questions like a fucking recruiter. She was an HR bitch and you know what else then and

through the whole season, Asha was us Yeah. They would cut a going like every time I went yeah, you know, like always showed be like what she was a correct narrator, she was a good narrator. She was reible, reliable, honey, and she got you remember that when when bend to Lessen herself home as she came out looking real good. When she was like Ms bend Lessen in herself home,

I don't know if that's a good look. Miss been like she was, she said, Ben to La Christ, right, Ben to La Christ, thought of like, I don't know how good of it looks like it's gonna be yeah, well she well, she was kind of like speaking to both outcomes. She was like, I don't know if that's gonna look good or bad? Right, which is actually a really smart thing to say. That's what all different I wanted to be. I don't know if this is good about one quick asa thing. This is my sister said

everything you need to say. But one time at Ace Hotel, and I wasn't there heard the second hand, but that's how good it was. There's a projector and she climbed up to the projector and death dropped off the projector in the Ace Hotel. So she has always been the bit she's always like when everyone's like she gonna fall from there, it's like, yes, bit she's fallen from a projector from a ceiling. She climbed her as dumb as she is smart. I love about so I just want

I wanted the children to know about that. Thank you. All right to a hotel, we are going to talk to Josh Sharp now about miss Bendela cras Now. I came in and Aaron can attest to this, saying my one thing for the season was that I wanted to well, I wanted Cheech and Ash to be redeemed, and I think they both actually sort of happened in very different ways. I still was like, Cheech, I love you for being you and a your true queen. The other thing was I wanted to get Bendela because I've been la in

her season. I was like, you're good, but I don't get it, and right away she did it. I was like, you're fat. I get it. I would now go see you live, and previously I wouldn't have been excited to see you live. I did think when it happened, the sending yourself home, I was a major eye roll at, but it was a thing that three days later I

was like, oh, never mind, I don't care. Yeah, yeah, um, I know I'm not the last person yet, but I think so far my my previous sister said everything, uh except that I do think Ben I genuinely believe that like she did, like it's physically hurt for her to send people home, But I also think there is I still can't get over the fact that she did throw a grenade back in in the form of Morgan, but that was her way of like sanctimoniously being like, I

washed my hands of this. There's no blood on these little things. And uh, one more thing that she um, like the one question in interview she hasn't really been able to like work an answer around has been well, what about the winner of this season having an asterisk over there, like over their title? And Ben's just like still hasn't figured out a way to tact fully answer that.

So I guess, but you just say that's the best, the best statistic queen, statistically performing queen in the whole series. So um, yeah, I thought I love Ben was a slagh. She's a little in hathway, as you two have pointed out, it was me. I love it, and I think it's a little but also I think Anne hathaways a slay. How do we go off? All of you need to just shut up? And take o. That's part of Dark Night Rise. I was okay, I watched forty five seconds of Princess Diaries the other day on TV and she's

a fucking slave. Watch the damn channel. Thank you for saying all mail direct. Come on, that's a that's a slag. That was Natalie. Yeah. Well, I have to say that time was a slave. That Anaconda lip sync between her and Aja was the best. The first was the best. I mean, here's that was the top two for me in terms of they were the best on the season's top three. Top four should have been Asa, Ben Angela and Bebe. So the way the two of the top two of the season, we're not even in the top

four for me in terms of achievements. And I do believe that Outside of that, I think my sisters have said everything that I could. Now we'll start with Aaron this time. Let's start with Aaron. Was Morgan again we don't even talk about, but we will talk now about what final four? We're Yeah, we're fine, No, we're final four. Ye okay. So b b I to me is the winner. I think that stays queen to me. She she really was so good. Everyone is talking about how like, oh,

she was fine, she was consistent. She It's like, yeah, and she was consistently fierce. And then like when she's slay, she's slay and she's unique. Yes, you have you ever seen anyone like BB and she's classic drag. But then she's also like a fucking weirdo. So it's like it has the taste of Kennedy where it's like I'm giving you like I'm walking the runway, I'm fierce, but also like what the fund is this? Like what is she

about to say? And I think I'm totally gay also think and I think she's one of the best, just like clean lip s ankers. She needs no gimmicks, she's just like look at my eyes, look at my lips. Yeah, she's very good. And I did every I can't believe that she lost that lip. Well that was because they wanted Ben to center, yes, but like it was just so scarbage anyway, And I watched season one because I've never seen it and I finally watched it right before us.

It's so good and great, she's great and and and she's maybe not the one like that's a very like Angina was robbed um and Nina, Nina Flowers. But to me, the final three was BB, Nina Flowers and this wonderful queen named Rebecca Glascock and she just like doesn't know left from right. But the two of them, it's very much like, oh, she might not have been It would be a tricks to ch Angelo where you're like, she's not my favorite, but if she want to understand, so bebe.

You didn't even think was the Head and Shoulder's winner and season what I thought? To me, she was top top three. I think should have been B Nina and and and and then it's sort of like on Gina probably should win, but sure, I'll take Baby or Nina. And then I think between b B and Nina, you're not mad about either in my opinion. Yes, and this is watching it years later knowing she wants but I loved her anyway. That's all I think, b B. I and that's the only way you could have watched it.

So I don't feel bad. Wait, I couldn't wait to experience every confessional, every moment. I couldn't wait for BB. And when people were like I'm bored by BAB, is like, then you are born, Yeah, you're born Sharon said, keep your eyes open, your eyes open. Yes, um bb yes really changed me. Yes, I thought it was actually because in a way I thought we are not in a in an a typical way. I thought I can see myself on screen in an a typical way. We were all, yeah,

I'm pussy bitch, La la la la la. You can take my snatch, drag it up, give me more, bring it to the ball. I was like, thank you for saying what I have been trying my whole years. And yet at the same time, like you spoke for me, and yet at the same time you surprised me learned because like, yes, learned. Yes, you gave my voice voice and you let my ideas take wings. And yet still I was surprised. I can take your snatch. I never saw that coming. You can take my snatch, and I'm

just getting used to having it. And then you're telling me I can roll it up, I can drag it up. I can wheel it up at me, and I can drag it I can take it to the ball. Only just now got still gagged for green. Got not only that, but yes, to know that the emotion at the end was not even just not even just laughter wild. Yes, jungle laughter. You understands that you haven't even become an adult if you haven't gone to be Vizahara Benet's YouTube

channel and watched Cameroon watching Get Fierce. Watch, um, what else case Fun Tonight? Fun Tonight? Cameroon is a seven minute for a force two minutes of it just going. She's basically doing. She's giving you a precursor to goes. It's the background singers and dancers. Unbelievable. She's dancing on some public park in Minneapolis, just giving you life, making it pass for Africa. It's amazing. Can we just say to fact that she won the show and then never

watched it again? Yes, bitch, would you watch the show? Respect? Respect? You're also like just because maybe she did watch it, but who remembers or nation? If you're not on the internet, you know what I mean? On the internet? She yes, Okay, wait, who are we on right now? No? Wait, but one

less responds to you on social media. What I want, what I want to say about is that, Um, I also think the show has not always done the best job about truly rewarding like old school queens just because they don't have the kind of flash and stuff sometimes to win challenges. Death dropping Phoebe was a great job of like showing you like this is why an old school school queen is fun valid watch you're just sucking

lip sync. You could just have face. Just what's that play where the woman is buried up in sand up to her? It's happy. It's Sam Shepherd, Happy Days, Happy happy Days. She's up to the way she's up to the next bold a video of Fiona Shock. I saw that lived back. Boebe should do Happy Days. Bebe should be cast in happy Days. Nothing beats her face and they should say just read the script once, babe, and then say back what you feel. Wow. And I will

say that you need to listen to get Fierce. Get Fierce, and the music video for that come on yourself. A two thousand dollar budget, it's crazy. She makes it work. She's so expensive. And who gave her that? I earned it in the club. She paid for that video in one And this is what I love about baby. Speaking of our social media because and I will try to

do my best to quote her tweet that she tweeted recently. UM, I don't give attention or space or energy to negativity, So please if you have something bad to say to me, you know that it will not be seen. Thank you made what an amazing mindset and on social media you're curious. Know that you will be curious for the rest of your life. That she didn't tell I mean, I want to know. But I love that on her tombstone, baby

like I brought back door. Yes. I also loved when all the other queens were like, yeah, but we all told And it's basically why I told you you had to do that. You didn't have to do that. The rules got changed, the rutt got pulled, and she's like, I'm not fucking this was a small moment. This is

a small moment. But later on, like after she said that, she goes over to like her little dressing corner and she's going to take her shirt like off, and she reaches into like her bra to like get the lipstick out because it's still there, and she looks at the camera like, I'm not showing you either. Your mother get away from me. I swallowed it, and did you love that? Every time she said out of respect, that was what out of respect? I think she is the true winner

of queen. With that said, spend for baby tickets sixty dollars. I was about to say fifty dollars, but no, no, no, I'd rather die. But I think she's the one that's spend the most for, which really means we're gonna start talking about Chanel listen, Channgela. I think for me had like the sort of Bendela Creme season six a reaction to me, where you know, I could tell she was competent, I could tell she was good, but something about her would be the wrong way. I didn't care for until

this last episode. That look that final runway was carpet, and we haven't seen it that much on the show done well because either you can't go big enough with it or it just looks. It looked fashion. It was really beautiful. It amazing. It's very the runway of the finale All Star season two. I thought Detox and Rock Andrews were Yes, thank you. It was like that where you're like, you're really you could go on the Red, You'd be on the absolutely so respect. That sort of

came in, especially during the behind the scenes. You know, one take her her her verse and real unreal, such satisfying rhymes. I love Angela, don't stand for her but love her. She Angela for me, I'm not here to drag her into the mud. I think she's very good. She is not my queen. And what I've been saying about ch Angela is like I've never seen anything from Angela that I haven't seen on the show all that,

do you know what I mean. It's like it's like, okay, cool a fat suit, and to her, it's like, okay, I've seen it. I saw here to drag her, but that I still love those kids. Not here to drag her, but she was giving exactly. That's what I feel like. She is. She's very and I feel like she's the one in class who like is getting the best grades, but like the smartest kid is in the back and she's got you know, like weird art in her desk,

and it's like, that's the kid I care about. It's like, but ch Angels in the front, she's answering all the questions and she has the best grades, but like babies in the back dressed as a cat, and she's actually the best and that girl in the front who's getting the best grades just like hallelluen, Yeah you're um. So that's to me, But I understand people that love ch Angela, But to me, it's like I would. If we're talking about what we'd pay to see her, I would go

for free. No, I would, I would, I would pay. I would pay money to see sch Angela. And I think she's great. If she was at Barracuda, I'd be like, oh, fierce, get my life. But I'm not like walking into disgusting exercise of us to like quantify. Yes, yes, and this market driven. And I want to tell all these queens if you're listening, cane all more talented than me without even trying that even milk maybe not wait, but for me, ich Angela is my queen and I was team sch Angela.

I did retweet that. Wow, I did a hashtag on record. Yes, that's your fucking fault, bitch. Maybe I will just late not my president, listen. I think that's ch Angela did everything right. I think she did the eliminations right. I think she did the fashions right. I think she did the challenges right. She didn't do anything wrong. I think hallelu is funny. There's for me about it. Fuck you, I just do hallelu Do you like it? Do you

like Dilly? Dilly, Oh wait, we have to talk about how the Game of Thrones ship was horrible, horrible and it was straight. She's like, that's I love Game of Thrones, but it was She started talking about ned starting you're not even talking about de Naries, You're talking about the boy characters who died in season one. And then her allusions to the characters were not good, like like was not acting like we're all gagged for that last look.

You talked about Game of Thrones four times every week, and you don't give me a dragon on the runway. Dragons especially she's coming out in snow globes. It's like she should have breathed fire and then dragon. And I loved the last look, but she needed to have a dragon on her. Yes, you're right, she need a cracking egg and have a she dragon. Would you have been team Channgela, Well, I would have said, thank god, we've been forest fed boarded by Game of Thrones. Imagine references.

Imagine watching Game of Thrones and having to sit through that. It was off water board, Dad, that's the title of that waterboard. Can't why can't be Cia new Cia queen queen? But she man no, but she's gravely mishandled some investigations. She burned some tapes. Bag Angela is great, but she's also not my queen. What can I say about Channgela that she hasn't said? You know, Game of Thrones came out of a box hallelu you know where I feel like that. Her branding was just it's too much for me.

But I like her and I think she is good at drag agreed. She sat down one day probably and was like, I'm going to write a unified theory on myself, and half of it was just three bullet points. Yeah it was. I mean that was wild. It was a lot. It was a lot. It was wild that we're going to talk now. No, look, I look, we have a disagreement. I think you Game of three, Game of don't just a little much. But she needed to split Ru's throat to make a game to make that payoff. You should

have literally killed. But you say games the only way it pays off. You say Game of Thrones that much, you're asking for red wedding, and that's none of them voting for you, Yes, vote for you. Got turned on by everyone. She got Rob Stark, start talk to me about your feelings on Kennedy Davenport Josh, Oh, I'm along at Kennedy apologist and I thought she did a fabulous job this season. Yeah. Where even the season that I liked her but apologized for her, there were things to

apologize for. This season, there's not really anything I have to apologize for. I don't think she should have won, but I thought she did a fabulous job. And I think she's a really fun narrator too. Yeah, it's it's a slow it's a different y oh, it's a different but I like it. The drag race cut when it comes to her sometimes and she's like, I just don't and you're like, what is dripping off a spoon? You know, it's slow, but worth it? Amzing. I agree she should

have a cigarette hanging out of her mouth at all. Yes, absolutely, I think you know what. I'm just this is my appraisal Kennedy, not not for ticket prices. I'm just saying Kennedy netted netted zero for me, truly, like just peaks and valleys all sort of came out to like, you know, a wash Is that is that a saying? Um? So, yeah, she was great, she was terrible, you know whatever, she she was, but she wasn't that terrible. I don't know.

I just Kennedy had a hard time and this is probably the shows in the edits fault, but like had a hard time presenting some more compelling narrative beyond just like getting alto sometimes about ben Um and you know, like after after ben left, it was like, well, what's Kennedy's deal? So I don't know. The milk thing was really the Kennedy milk. That was great. That was her episode she got to send It was amazing. Um, I think Kennedy is fierce, but again it's like, yeah, I

think she doesn't shine on the show. She loves to kick and twirled, but you would die. Actually, I do you want to say one more thing before we move on. I do love that whole part where she's like I just want people to come up to me. Yeah, and I think they will. I think they will. But I think that love that. I was like that that's for me, Kennedy. How I was sorry, like Kennedy, Kennedy just like go off, No, I love Kennedy. I'm a long time Kennedy apologist as well.

It just was always funny to me, like when they do a challenge and they'd get critiqued, and they'd go back to the room and she had the worst critiques and they said, well who should go home? And she would go, well, I didn't. I know, I didn't do bad. It's like it's like, okay, yeah, no one did bad, but somebody did do the worst, especially when you know

there's six five, four of us laugh. You know, we've all been given critiques and it's not about if you did bad, it's just about you know, who got the worst critiques and who's pretty good, almost like a tautological argument. And every time, well I didn't do bad, and then and so if it was either that or like or like. No, I don't think we should go by the rules. No, I don't think we should go by who did the worst. I don't think we should go go by who's been

doing the worst. I think whoever's there at the end is there, Like this is like ridiculous. It would have been fun if she got in the top more because she would have pulled some lipsticks and okay, like that would have been fun. She would have done them because I don't know, I agree, but I think like she's she's the one that's like, don't care that you won last week. I feel like a lot of them were like, you just won, and she'd be like, I don't know,

you did bad, but I don't like you. A lot of that whole most stuff that's like her like sort of yeah, her eliminations, you know, strategy was just her covering her ass and like you're probably yeah, yeah, so that's what I think. But I think she's a lot of I'd love to watch her kick control. And here's a real controversial opinion. She does cattya deserved to go home that night, everyone says cat you should have won. Know who says that everybody? Everybody, everybody. That's a little

white supremacy. Again, that is white supremacy, even though it was a final three white That saying that Castia beat Kennedy and that lip sync is white supremacy. Yeah, okay, now our new queen. We're now discussing our new queen. Well, Trick Suptel is obviously a wonderful drag queen, and I think she also is one of those that's like, maybe not the best at drag race, but I think her journey to the end, it's very survivor. This season, I

will say where it's like Survivor. Now there's a narrative on the show where it's like they didn't play the best game, and it's like that did not used to be. The narrative used to be like they're here, bitch and there and you're voting for him and they won. And that to me was Tricksie. It was like, maybe I didn't play the best game, but like I'm standing at the end, like I sort of found a way to win every week, and it's like, and what do you

think Trixie is not a great drag. Sometimes winning was Bindles sending herself home, but that's still one that still want Still I made it. Yeah, So I think like, while it might not be the like the fairest narrative of the show, it's like she's here and she won, Trixie.

I think that for me, it's just interesting that Tricksie ends up winning, not because I don't think she quote unquote deserved to win, because you could definitely make an argument that she did and guess what she did, and it is Rue's decision, and therefore she deserved to win because in the eyes of Rue, she deserved to win. And like before it started. But that's here's my point

with that. So I think it's just interesting that there was so much discussion amongst the queens of like who needed to the title, and they ended up giving it to someone who a did not need it for their career and also be did not do the best on the season statistically, so literally they gave it to the pick options C and I don't know what options was. Well, it was always going to be Tricksy and so it is. Do you think the producers were like picking Trixies lipstick

and they're like, I'm going to say something shady. I think that. I think that Tricksy got paid a lot of money to even be on this season, more than the other queens. I think they do. I think I think Trixie's rate is higher, and I think that walking away from it, like I don't know, it's sort of a thing of like you don't have any tea because

I didn't even know if does. I'm sure they have to pay them in appearance for they're asking them to take three weeks off from their bookings, like there has to be something, But I would just bet none of them have that high of an appearance fee. Really, so they probably get all get like a think tricks on television already. It's more than Kennedy. I know, I know, I know, I know, But I'm just saying I don't

know that her TV quote is hot. Well, I don't know. Well, and I bet and it's gonna be higher than the rest of them because rest of THEMS TV quote is zero. But I bet they don't have to go like, damn, we gotta pay tricks. There's only like you're wrong too. I have no clue how that works. There's only a total of like three drag managers on the whole industry, and I can't imagine that and one of them and

I'm the other two occupied to people. Yeah, I mean, like I can't imagine that, Like there's such big disparities in terms of like a rate to specifically go on drag race where that all feeds into Like I bet that's the kind of thing where you're a man, You're like, ask him to get me more than like it is drag race. They don't give you more, Like they don't like you either just say no or you do it for this much money. Yeah, that's what I would bet. I mean, case and point they send the clown instead

of Bianca. That was so funny, you know what I mean, I think you'll do it. We'll pay you as She's like, you know, I think that's the funniest thing. So we got a clown. I mean, that was so funny, and I bet the clown got the same damn right. Bianca

would have gone out, definitely. I just think it would be more interesting in the cannon of the whole show I said before, for Trixie and Kazi and not have to not have one, because now Trixie and Kazia show one of them is a winner, and it's like they don't have they can't have that, damn like Tricksie and Bob show lately, I know, you know what's happened. No, I haven't watched it since it switched. I'm sure, I

don't know. I think so, but mental seems like a very you know, Coleman drew Narrative and which and Coleman drew we Leven. Judy Darling comes back if she wants to, if she wants to, but did update her profile picture recently to her being an addressing room with my clock to that as I loved Judy Dark I love Judy Darling. Does she listen to the show? I don't think let's forward her this Judy, we love these ones. I don't think she knows us. You're my favorite working drag queen

of New York. Babe, Judy, we love you, babe, and Brutta filter and yeah, there you that's blasphemous. I love Judy Darling. I stand for her. No, I'm saying, I'm just really hard to listen to someone say best when there are so many hard working girls out there, local queens, and in fact, we actually just had some local queens on our I don't think so, honey, live and have the show. It was great, Well everyone will listen, Well

everyone will listen. We haven't done it yet at the time of recording, but by the time it's released Friday, Babe, I was playing the like space and time and so am I but in a different narrative. Yeah you're on. I don't forget. None of these are facts, none of these as guess what we're saying and what about what thoughts on Rue? Paul Wow Wow. I don't know how much I give it to Rue or to the producers, but the producing on the season was mostly bad. Mostly bad.

This was not my favorite season, and that's okay. That's it gets to have bad seasons or not not bad, but just subpar, you know. And I'll watch it again one night when I'm stoned at home eating goldfish crackers out of a bag, I'll watch All Stars three again. And this was bad if but the Bendla bring Back episode is in the canon of great apps. Yes, it's a I think all not all four. Bob's Runway Final Runway didn't do it for me, but I liked it,

but it wasn't the best of all times. Angela's and Tricksies I think are on the top top one d runway looks. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say they're in the top. No oh no, violets, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You are forgetting the children have forgotten you were forgetting some of the detoxes looks. Yeah, of course no, I didn't forget you did. But we can all agree that the BTS single Tach was it was. But Kitty Girl, we go to that moment. What made you cry about it?

Angela's verse? Maybe crying because you were touched, Like, look, how much better she is than she was. I just have a lot of respect for someone that goes at it for years to become the best version of what they want to be. And I think that ch Angela has become, if not the best version of herself, damn near close. And I think that she really showed up

to the show. And I believe that that moment of her talking about why she deserved it to the jury at the end was really genuine because she has worked her ass off and she's got her eyes on the prize of success and she's getting that. And I just was like, I don't know that. That just moved me to see her kill it looking like Beyonce with those backup dead all around her. And also, to be honest with you, I think I was a little emotional about it because, um, you were high in horny. Yeah, it

was so high and so horny. I got emotional and change list. First, when she was like ned Stark looking like a lark everybody Game of Thrones, I was like, you're crying. We're in wester Roast, my house got got got. I wish she'd said, I'm crying right, swat of tears angels here. I love it. I'm sorry my sisters have already said, I'm glad you I'm glad you cried. I did. I cried a little. You're too went. You're like Acker, go off to your ducks. Wait, hey, kitty girls, it's

your jerk every time. So every time I hear I think America Dream, I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, I'm crying. Let's talk. Let's talk just fun. Predictions for season ten. Who are our faves so far? Cracker, but Vanessa has her little calls and I'm very excited for Mayhem. Yeah, Mayhem good. Here's my top three prediction, Mona Exchange, Mayhem Miller, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say someone we don't except I'm the same Mayhem, Monet and Eureka.

Those are my top and top five is Cracker and Vanessa. I think Cracker. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, Cracker has a great season, but it's like a or g esque season, so therefore no, not necessarily. I just think well liked, but like not at the level of the top top top girls. And that's not a comment on anything, really comment on something. The way I'm going to say sixth place I have high hopes from but I really have high hopes for Eureka, who wasn't even my queen that season. But we need a

big winner, and I think she's so fabulous. We need we need a queen from Poe Dunk and I am ship whole city. I have a bias towards country queens. I'll forgive country queens more readily than any other category queen. She's she's got the country queen thing, you know what I mean, Like she's giving you the look, but it's it's polished the country queen. Like her Meet the Queens is truly masterclass, really good. It's great, it looks amazing, she is amazing. She's had her Meet the Queens from

last season will also go. She did the thing where she was like, it's blank meats, blank meats, Blank listed like six things like Castle meets, like Dangelo meets, and she listed nine and sill and it was so funny. It was very funny. Um, okay, great, thank you, matt Um, You're welcome. I'll go next. How about we we we go? What are we doing? We're just talking about, you know, a favor face because I couldn't do a final three

I couldn't even Okay, we're not gonna do that. But this is all I just want to I just want to have a platform to say that you walk and that's what this part is. Oh yeah, I will say this as I don't know that queen. I will say this as an Asian person. Um. After seeing her interview with Sasha for Lauren Facebook Live, she is a disgrace to the community. She I have not seen this. Come. Here's here's what she goes. Here's here's what she does. Sasha's like, okay, yes, you're all right. This is a

question from don't even do that first. First, just screet meet Hi. I'm here with you, Ahamasaki, how are you darling? Hi? I just swam here from the ocean for all the way from Asia. I'm an immigrant. I swam, I swam over here. Wow, you're very high energy. Okay, let's go to some questions from Facebook. Here's one from uh Starfish. That's that's if you're drag was an ice cream flavor? What flavor would it be? Um? I would say vanilla

because vanilla everyone reminds me of fucking white guys. And you can have sex with all the white guys in the world and have sex with all the privilege, the white privilege in the world. I'm quoting her. You can have sex with all the white privilege in the world. I like to have sex a white guy, white men. An answer to the question, what do you think Matt's impression is doing for the community, It's enriching a white

go off, go off. The conversation what she did. Versation around appropriation has not moved in the last five years. We need to move it forward. Honey, Matt is paying tribute. Can we talk about Can we talking about Bruno Mars? You have thoughts, don't you? I have thoughts? Do you posted something cryptoic on Facebook about it? So I want

to know your thoughts. There was some like video round table where these people were discussing when they're not Brunas is appropriative and you know, do you think that's of of of of black culture where he's like not technically black color but not of color but not black because

he's like Pacific islander. Yes, right, yes, exactly so. Because it was just a really silly conversation and it's like, Okay, we're not like, we're not going to talk if we're not talking about these things in terms of like capital and whatever I mean, which is shitty, but like we're it's, as Nancy Pelosi says, guest cameo starts three, really like capitalists society. But um, wig yeah wig um whatever, Bruno

Mars is fine. And then I had our dear for concord Apostle coming after me and say that we can't be so absolutist with this kind of thing. Um when I said that, and he was like, no, but you know, black culture operates an absolute so it has to be that way. And I was like, what whatever I mean he's I don't have, no, I don't know enough to I just was curious what your thoughts, So I don't have I mean, I'm a Bruno Mars apologist, as you

also famously know, but famously as well. I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say anything about just black culture. Obviously, I'm obviously not in a position to say that. But in terms of appropriative nous appropriation, um, just let Bruno do a fucking moonwalk across the stage. That's what people is in his performance though that people are saying of his the's presenting it how he's presenting it,

I think is how I understood it. But I didn't go deep down like super Bowl pop. Yeah, but I guess he's also like doing a butt of the like early nineties, you know, like black RnB sort of. This is all to say Matt's Matt's impression of you a Hamazaki is not racist, and I supported whole hard and it's not a factor. And it's not before you call it anything, don't call it a It's been in one of the reviews I was called a problematic insufferable reviews of what of this show? I so wish we had

I think you stand by my review. That's what people love. You just start. I really wish we had comments getting recently because they are something I accept all reviews. I do want to say though, that I fucking hate that person that wrote that review. Can we just say the one recently on a HPJ just rolled his eyes recently on a YouTube Aaron and I got the comment these faggots wiggle around too much, dudes need to sit still,

which is a pretty good note. And then fag gets wiggle around too much in a different um comment on a different thing. Um we got just someone typing win goal like seventy times, but like in a way that it was moved over one space. And do we think this is what I think? I mean, we probably do wiggle too much. But do we think this is a new gay slurg? I find I don't think it is a slur. I do think it was just two separate wiggle. Two people discovered gravity at the same time, you know

what I mean? I see, I see, and they both me and the person that got credit for it, Tandy Newton? Is that even imperson? Tandy Newton's an actress? That's what I thought. Um, I wiggle. I think Dame Tandy Newton discovered gravity. Would a fact gets wiggle around? Would you ever attribute the word wiggle to assist hat mail or even a woman? I don't know. I think you could say it about women's like she was wiggling her waist. She was a wild six and she wiggled her waist

into the bar. One wiggle and I went by boy boy, But you would never say it about it a straight guy. A straight guy, I'm gonna start, hey, wiggle, I'm gonna start greeting straight man and going, hey boy, give me a wiggle and do you think they will depending on who it is. That's true. Jordan will, but he'll be uncomfortable. And just said, Jordan's a good guy sort of say yes to anything. He's got the improblem and he gets it.

So I have a Jordan wiggle. He says, yes, it's it's great to test out sort of what could turn to be problematic things in the workplace. Yes, or on a or on a podcast that's recorded for and as you know, the cloud is achieving sentience and will destroy us all singularity come for me. The cloud can come from me. It already has. I'm ready for it, already has the cloud. I'm gonna be like of the wood. Let me out there fighting the weather in the woods. That's when he went to the woods to do fight

the weather. Yeah, that's does he fights? How much would we pay to see Matt fight a cloud screaming like you while I did it too? Okay, can we do it? Can we hear something? But be careful? O. Wow, that's beautiful and so respectful? Love that was that was monet? You know. All right, let's move on, honey. Oh right, so let's do a RuPaul's Draggers edition. Okay, but we don't have to come for queens like we did last thing, because I'm not going to come for Yeah, we already

did it in the last two hours, all right. I have people who are one degree it, all right, I can I can set a timer. I'm gonna do it on what just happened to you? Nothing? Okay, um, okay, here we go. This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey, and his time starts. Hold on now, I don't think so, honey. The part of the bt S one take routine, which was the Judges Coreo part, because let me tell you something, Ross was off and it was noticeable. And guess what if they can be

rehearsing their ass off the whole time. You guys can get this part together. Also, literally you had to turn around in your chair, walk three steps, do a little thing with your arms and points on que and you guys couldn't even get it right. Extra credit to Carson for giving extra hips. Michelle, you looked self conscious, bitch. I don't think so, honey. You look self conscious doing it. Guess what if you need all need to step your pussy up, judges, And here's my thing, Judges. The whole

time didn't do enough. I want to see the judges come extra hards tend to remind us what's up, and I want to see some good decision making. Also, I think we should stick to either Ross or Carson, and I usually would go with Ross. I love all the guests judges of this season, especially Vanessa Hudges and that's one minute amazing. Yeah, Ross, and I agree that that

that judges. Quaro was like, you're gonna make these queensy this and y'all can't point like they like they It was so weird a point and hold for four counts. They're like pointing in that we just wait, maybe make make them do less if it's like I'm a little nervous, Like, didn't just make them sit in the mirror and go like yeah when the camera goes by. Yeah, I love Ross. Ross is one of us. You don't want to know why. He started off as an intern on a late night show.

Man on the Street Bets had his own podcast, Look at him. God, if he'd been in an improv group, I'm sure she would never have survived the improv scene into that. Never did improv, I don't even know what it is, Okay, So I can do. I can do, okay, but you can go. I mean, I think I have one that you of taught me, so you should go first, because I don't want to steal it. Okay, okay, I think just to just to keep in tradition, keep with tradition,

we'll have the hosts, no mistake. Most I've decided, thank you, thank you, But you've also decided I've um yeah, yeah, I don't think so, honey. The time shots and now I don't think so, honey. The fucking Coronation Day like not Coronation Day, fucking elimination Day, mirror talks like that. They were boring as hell this season. The only good thing that came out of those was hearing Kennedy sort of lament about how she's not as appreciated as the other queens are. I don't want to. There was no

what was the social issue? What was the big social issue that drag Race needs to affect? Change? Sometimes it's forced, like on season nine, like every fucking episode was about like one was about Russia, the other one was about you know, uh body issues. Wait, I want more compelling banter between these queens because otherwise I don't want to see them draw their cat eyes on. Do you know what I'm saying. I don't want to see how the sausage gets made. I'm just here to see how the

Queen's kick and twirl. Fuck drag, fuck drag the fuck drag when when they they put like the makeup on, I don't care for it. I want to um. I would never wish a makeup ttorial video and my greatest enemy and that's one they put the makeup dragons when they put the makeup on. Tired drag, Okay, don't stay, you're tired to check out the door? Okay. Think of the people on the train right now. They're so tired going to their job. All right, now it's Josh Josh. Okay,

this is Josh Sharp's I don't think. And his wings are spread like I'm reads primed and his time starts. Okay, I don't think so, honey. They're producing on All Stars to three. I know we already talked about it, but I need to delineate some of my concerns. First of all, it's a ball and we have two categories. I don't think so, honey. One of the categories is soup. Can I don't think so, honey, that is not for the ball.

That is for the cap, and it in your kitchen. Also, I never if it's if we have seven queens or less, I better not get a clipped runway. I better get a full runway. Runways with five queens. Why what do you need to show me nothing? Also, you should have straight up in the finale, Gone Survivor and let us see who is voting for who milked the drama. I don't want any of this. You know, Morgan is the foreman. We find you guilty. Nonsense. I wanted them to come

out and drag it out. One vote for seats and if not, then I say, funk drag when they put the makeup on. If you can't give me drama, then fu drag when they put the makeup on. I don't think so, honey. The producing on All Stars three and that's one minute when they put the makeup on. Oh boy, okay, that was beautiful, Josh, thank you. I think that was really good. Okay, So I'm going to do one. I have it and this is a Josh sharp opinion, but

I also share it. But Josh, I was I just want to say, my eyes, I love that we hive mind a lot of things, and we're constant collaborators. You're beautiful together. Yes, did you know we have them Mount Rushmore? This is that wasn't one of my ideas. A come on, Aaron Jackson's I don't think so many as time starts now, I don't think so. Drag Race community, who says every season this was a bad snatch gang. Yes, every season is a bad snatch gang where two or three of

them do a great jaw. But we always say it separates the wheat from the chat because a lot of them are fucking bad and they're not funny, and that's okay. It is very frequently bad, and then someone does a good impression and you give them the win for the episode. I don't think so, honey. Everyone turning to each other at the bar, clutching the vodka, saying, this one's bad because fucking Morgan McMichaels is being pink like she's bad. It's bad. You only want to see the funny people

doing the funny things. This is not a challenge for everyone. I don't need to see everyone on the runway and be like, this runway is bad every season. It's all ch Angela taped a record to herself, she's bad at the runway sometimes fuck Drag. I don't think Sonny, Yes, mad that I didn't say. I truly to bitch about that every year because somebody always is like, did you think this year was a bad snatch game. It's like, yeah, you say this way, Yeah, but it's fun. But they're

always fun. Yeah, there's like one or two that are good. A lot of them are. Season nine was good and people are like, that was bad. I love I thought five of them did good. My point is they're all pretty good. You know, they're never is it a great comedy show. It's like a couple of queens are funny, a couple of queens suck, and then everybody's like in the middle, Yeah, they're never all nine funny exactly. Wow, that would be insane if nine Drag queens were funny

at the same time. Yeah, one of them impressions. I will say this, it's not an impression game. It's a comedy game. Who would you do for snatch games? I would actually have done this on the part I've always said that I would do Rachel Rachel Barry from Glee, Lea Michelle from Glene, but here I have a new thing. I would Bob the drag queen at so I would come out as Bethany Frankel and I would be in the middle. I'd be like, I gotta go, I gotta

go because she always has to leave. And then I would come back as Leah Michelle from Glee and be like ms a roue, I'm sorry, I'm late, and like to be the student rushing in and so I would do a double take and would absolutely win one thing. I think, no, no one's done Judy Garland, and that is crazy. You know, I'm not good an impress. I would want to be Abigail from the Crucible and just call everyone a witch the whole time. That's really good. That's what would you do? I think I think I've

said in the past, Michiko, but that's that's that. In the workroom room would be like, now, who's that? And I'd explain and she'd be like or she'd pretend to know, she pretended to, or she'd be like, but she's not funny again. I love it reflective of the whole show because it's not a comedy competition. It's to make real laugh competition and She says that, remember, you gotta make me laugh, but she doesn't say anyone else laugh. She says,

you got to make me? Would do I really don't know? Actually, wait, can I crowdsource this with my sisters? Think Shelley val is a very good statution? Oh my god shaking? And then you can also do that hello I'm a blood curd, Like, yeah, so good. I really oddly have not thought of this question before, so I don't have one right now. Okay, but I want to crowdsource from my sister, like you know who? You'd be good like a sort of like weird Sally Field. Okay, like some sort of likely caucus. Okaya,

has anyone done when known a writer? I don't think you can shop from M and then do Heather's reference a writer would be really fun. Actually, that's a good one. You could just have a sub game where you're just going away, like stealing people's ship. But I do like leaning into the southern aspect of job. That's maybe i'd be um Anita um Anita Bryant. Yes, Davis is also

a good day. Is also a good one, is Kim Davis? Yeah, if we could, if we could do it together, we should be anither saying Kim Davis in the name of the load. I have to say something because we just we did a field peace where we went funny and a lot of the like pitching of it and stuff. We had so many conversations with straight people at work. We were like, Kim Davis is a gay HiCon and they'd be like, doesn't she hate gay people? And big it's you don't get it. But she's campy. She's a

monster her. And then we're like where We're like, Brian's gay, how can they? Who is that? I'm like, oh god, mild you see milk. She was a prominent partner. She certainly was. Davis is a great one. Yeah, you guys have to check out this field piece that they did on the opposition, which is what they went down to Kentucky, Kentucky Morehead, Kentucky. Yeah, and they went to County. They went to Kim Davis's office and confronted her. She did not move from her seat, but she just went, Okay,

thank you, thank you. Josh and Aaron do say media hord to media horror. So they technically called Kim Davis the media horror. Yeah, we did. So that's beautiful. We actually talked to her for a while because she really did just sit there and was like thank you, all right, I got it, thank you, and then finally shut the door and right, I guess we're done. Oh, captain, my captain.

You know you lose a lot of stuff in the at, you lose a lot of stuff in the out Let me tell you this about job is you lose a lot Now. I can't wait to hear this podcast cut down. Maybe it won't be a second, not even the part we're leaving the whole thing. We're not even one, not even the part where I talk about Mac and Rose sign. Oh. Yes, that was a specific college way. Sally Field's son is also good. Yes, because I when that story about him and Adam Rupon came out and I was like, I

know that boy. And I was like, I'm sure, I think in the way you were like I recognize a person. I'm sure we've chatted on us. Yes, and he's very nice. But he just swipes right on everybody, which is great. I love that. More of that. It's beautiful, beautiful. You never know he might be very inclusive. Wow, this has been uh, this has been a Hey you guys. Pack it out, you guys out ding dong. This has been lost cultural system. You creaked the door. When it now,

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