"Sister Support!" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

din honey. And I mean the show has civil Shepherd. Can we talk about civil Shepherd? Vanessa Beyer? I mean, who these people crazy? We were saying before we got on, Like, if I heard about the show, I would be dying to watch it. It's essentially like the Devil Wores product at QBC. Is really the best way I can describe it. Um, And it's so funny, so funny, and I would be dead for this as a viewer. But we were talking

before we came on. It's so hard to watch yourself do anything that I'm I hope I'm able to watch it like for real and enjoy how good it's going to be and not just be like am I goodness, Oh my god. I don't think you've ever had an issue with like what your intention is on set translating to what you're successfully executing what you set out to do.

There's some of us out there, myself included, where we're like I thought I was doing this, but instead on camera and after the edit this this is the best take they had. It's me going like this, It's like, it's crazy. Well, no, I first of all, you always nail literally and I got a girl you were shooting something this week and I got a text from a producer that's a friend that said Bone just really knows

how to nail a take. And I was like, Thatt Witaker said back, oh, that's very nice, because you did a little role on Else five ever, which, by the way, is going to be such a funny fucking show on Peacock. We have to talk about this. It's gonna be a great show. All the casting has been announced, so we can say it's Sarah Brelli's Renee Lee s Goldsberry, Busy Phillips, and Paula pell which, come the fuck on. They play like they used to be like a big Spice Girls

type huge pop girl band and they make a comeback. Essentially, it's like a sort of really pasteurized version of the story. Would pasteurized be the pasteurized I think works my gesture, Queen, you did not flop with that usage. What do I mean to say when I said pastor? Yeah? Sure, but anyway, you did a little part on it. And I literally it's funny that you say we don't think you nail takes because I literally received a text that said he nails take. I think what you're saying is it is

hard to watch yourself because you never It's it's just hard. Well, um, I think like like Joe Firestone said this once in an interview and I was just like, oh, she's a right where it's like it's hard to watch yourself because you see yourself like faking something and it just looks so unnatural that you're like, you see yourself faking something. That's an interesting way to say, and you're just like, oh, I can't do it, I can't do it. You know you know who else is like this never watched a

single episode of Gray's Anatomy. Sandra, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard her say that. I get it and miss miss some Miss kristen Wig also never watched us and now when she was on, which I think is remarkable. I kind of get it, and I do think it's it's hard because you want to at least check in for yourself that you did well. But I can't think of enough times where I was happy seeing myself on camera that I think it's good for me, you know what I mean, Like, neither mean me. It's just not

It's not like I don't. I don't. I genuinely don't do it to watch myself. I don't care about it like I I like. I enjoy acting and performing, but it's not something I want to consume myself doing at any time. So interesting, Well, Jesture, I'm so happy for you. I'm so excited. Thank you, Flop. I really appreciate that flop and you telling me that day, I was like, there's no way this day is going to be bad.

I remember you told me on a Saturday when I was going I think it was for the Christian MC do a leap show that you that you got the call. I think it was. Yeah, I told you that day we were talking that was that was a fun that was a fun finding out you were gonna be TP by Do and Kristen and also be getting to share that news. It was a good text. It was a

very good text exchange. I was just I was going in that morning being like, you know what, there's a chance it gets cut, but as there always is, and it was kind of white knuckling it for for that possibility. But then you telling me that you booked this. I was like, there's no way this day is going to be bad because my friend got this thing that he wanted support. It's called Sister Support and it's a front runner of the title of that sister support. Sister, I

want to support you. What are you said? You were watching something on Peacock recently, but it's not saved by the bell? Is it? Is it something new? Okay, so we just didn't add for Peacock and no shade to Peacock. But I streamed something on a different streamer platform and I was very excited that I did. And I enjoyed this more than I thought I would. And I have dragged this person before because I usually can't consume their stuff. Anna Kendrick, she was really good in love life and

I really enjoyed love Life. Okay, girl, I don't think sisters can support I'm not going to get any sisters. I don't know. Okay, can I say something. I dragged my ass to watch this because it's been out for Why did you? Why did you watch it in the first place. I'm telling you to watch nine days I've been watching. Okay, you are being an idiot, because can

I tell you something? So I got so in my head about like acting in a show that I said, I can't watch another episode of reality show because it's not what I need to be watching, because I'm gonna like I I literally got scared for a second when I was watching so much reality, Like, am I forgetting what I'm supposed to be doing? Like when I go to work eventually, and I feel like I forgot how to act because I've been watching so much ninety day. I don't think, Yeah, it makes sense, but I don't

think you should overload yourself with exemplary stuff. I was just like, I need to watch something where there's acting. So and so. You chose love Life, and for some reason, I was just like I didn't want to watch anything too challenging, And I was like let's just try Love Life, because I read the description for it and it actually appealed to me. It's like every episode is about a different relationship in her twenties that like defined her love life like as a whole in the macro. I ended

up really liking it. I I don't think it's like perfect, but I will say it was fun to relive my twenties in New York. And it really made me miss nostalgic for being in my twenties and being in New York. I don't need that right now, not in the pandemic. I don't want to be reminded of the life that was before. But it didn't make me feel bad. It only made me feel nostalgic in a good way. You're unwell, you are unwor I think I haven't. You think I have wellness. I think you have disease. I don't know

about so I guess I listen. I know. There was no point at which I thought I could convince you to watch Love Life. I'm just saying I did enjoy it, and I did watch ten episodes of it in a row in one sitting. I'm on with the episodes MoMA thirty three. Sometimes you get a twenty eight in there You're like, I wonder what was cut out of that one? Silent questions in your head. You understand, Yes, that range. I guess they'd call it a half hour. I guess i'd even call it a sitcom. I just didn't even

call it a sitcom. And that's basically what a half hour is at this point. Sorry, Mandalorian, you're a sitcom? Yeah, one division that's actually not just masquerading as a sitcom. She's a sitcom. She's a sitcom. Honey, Well, I'm glad that you see. I'm not. I've not been in a place to be primed to consume something new. I but you did recently love something that I want to talk about? Did I What are we talking about? Well? First, can we talk about something that I did not like? And

I think can? You been getting a lot of requests. I don't know. I probably know the answer to this, Um, I'm probably getting some skewed um request, Like the numbers are probably skewed towards me because people are like your Asian you should watch Bling Empire? Had people told you to watch Bling Bling Empire? Of course they have, And I did. I turned it on. Honestly, I had just like Marathon ninety day and I was like, let's try

something else. And I turned Bling Empire on at the end of the night, and I was like, this is gonna be this is gonna be something I have to start a night with. Yes, that's fair, because I couldn't. I was like literally falling asleep and I was like, I don't want to do this to this show. I would rather like actually consume and meet the characters straight up. So let me let me try it again on a

day when I'm fresh. Well, honestly, yes, you should be fresh to like take in these people, because to me, it's important for everyone to understand. I don't think I can watch the show past episode one because you meet Matt, you meet well, there's there's one guy who's like the surrogate. He's kind of like the crushale, like he's like coming into from from their previous work. Well, it's the same

producers from Kardashians, which is which is fun. But you have this one guy who's this like it's great Asian Himbo representation. He's just such a good looking guy who's a dumbass. I'm picturing him walking into rooms like Crochelle, like with his shoulders raised like smiling like that's ce. Oh my god, I miss I missed selling Sunset me too.

But no, but no, just listen. So but you watch Bling Empire and then it's just volleying you with these things that are like I mean, okay, it's basically like, hey, this guy is my friend. He's a billionaire because his parents are in the oil and gas industry, and oh my god, we stand that queen and a shay because, um, you don't want to mess with her because she's a billionaire from selling tanks and from arms deals. Don't mess with her because I guess you'll get killed, because you

could die with her, because you could die. But it's literally like billionaires. This is like the ethical wealth question, right, It's like billions shouldn't exist. We all know this, but it's like I don't think. I think that also applies to television shows, where it's like I don't want to watch these people enjoy themselves. Well, you'll notice like the aspirational wealth part of reality shows, like it used to

be a lot more important than it is. But even no, but I think there's like a sweet spot where it's like the Real Housewives. A lot of them Beverly Hills is like the exception, but a lot of them I think work because it's like these women have These women have a net worth of like a media net worth of like let's say eight hundred thousand dollars. Let's just say that. Literally, they're they're well, like they're comfortable, but

they will need They understandably would want more. I guess right, even though like all personal wealth and individual wealth, they're still hungry. They're still hungry. They're still hungry. The women they this This is the thing though, is that is that? Like an and Adressen was putting this out, she was like, it's these people can't on Bling Empire, can't manufacture conflict

because all of their needs are met. They're billionaires. What do they like there's nothing for them to really fight about, Like at least on selling Sunset, it's like, oh, it's a workplace thing, like this person might sell that property before that person, Like that's the stakes are already built in Bling Empire. It's like these rich people being like, hey, you were that same Cardian necklace that I did at that party. How dare you? It's like I don't understand

this at all. The conflict is literally that small, but to them that big. Yes, it's like literally in the first episode, it's like she's she wore a necklace that I have in my collection and it's like wait what. And then there's one guy who like clearly has bipolar disorder and it's weird and he like fucking like shouts down his girlfriend in a way that is like not okay, and like but everything. But then but people are literally damning me being like you should stick with it though,

because kay And actually becomes a really good friend. I'm like, no, stop it. This is like like, don't normalize. You can't humanize these people. You cannot. Yeah, I think that that's not gonna Without having seen it, I'll say it doesn't sound like something that can sustain itself, because I do believe that in order to create, um, something that's gonna keep people invested over a long period of time, you

do need high stakes conflict. Like ultimately in selling Sunset, like the lead character gets divorced and he's a huge Hollywood star and there's a main antagonist and that's why we're watching and that's why we're gonna keep watching and it doesn't sound like anything has been presented so far that feels substantial. But apparently this Cane person is an icon. No Cane is whatever, but people, the icon of the show is this woman Anna, who again billionaire from Arms Deals,

and it's like, yes, she's fierce girl boss. She you're right way She's like it's crazy to me and like you cannot like snap your like wag your fingers, snap, snap snap for this person who like bad force in the world. Yeah, that's it is. So, I mean that's literally everything. I mean, that's that's what's actually it's it's it's everything to an extent. But I feel like it's I feel like you could ethically watch Beverly Hills and be like, oh, these women, even though they're rich and wealthy,

like there's still something interesting crackling there. But like, well, they didn't acquire their means by like lethal ends exactly exactly, and it's like whatever require their ends by lethal means. That's what I meant to say, Okay, girl yes, correct. I just want to make sure that I'm speaking clearly, um speaking of girl boss energy. What I was referencing before that you lost your referencing something speaking of Girl Boss Energy Promising Young Woman, everyone's talking about you're about

to drag I'm not going to. Literally, I'm not going to drag you. But I did want to talk about the movie because because it's I'm having an interesting um experience with it in terms of how it's being received on a wide scale and by critics organizations and on the internet. Really because the Enginet is going crazy for

this movie, and I'm really not surprised. But I think what happened for me with Promising Young Woman is I saw it getting all these screenplay awards um by critics organizations, and it's now a frontrunner for the OSCAR for Best Screenplay. And I think I combined that knowledge with the fact that it's Carrie Mulligan, who I think of as very prestige, but it's not. It's not a prestiging movie. Well I don't think it in the way that like things usually are.

But the fact of the matter is it is earning a lot of awards, buzzing a lot of attention. So I kind of went into it with that. And while I think the movie is like it really says something different and it's bold and it's it really. I thought the music was incredible, and I thought there's just a

lot of um promise being shown in it. Not to make a like obviously little off the title, but the screenplay at points just doesn't work at all, Like like there's a couple of moments where it's so convenient and things are happening by such happenstance, and just these character moves that we're supposed to accept that just don't work

for me. So to see it, see it winning screenplay awards, and I can get into it specifically, but I did just want to say that I do think everyone should watch it, and I want to say we're going to spoil it, and you should not keep listening to this if you want to watch the movie. I just want to say that, flat out, are we gonna spoil it? I think I think we around the plant. I mean, I think I know one specific scene that you're talking which is between Alison Brie and Carrie Mulligan's character in

the living room. I think it's important in order to talk about why this doesn't work. I don't. I don't. This is what I mean. It's like I don't want to be just this person that's saying this movie doesn't work, I would be I would rather be able to share why I think the script is lacking. Um. And don't get me wrong, I had the time of my life watching a lot of it, and I think Carrie Mulligan is incredible, and I really like Emerald Finelle. I think

she's an incredible writer and an actress. I just thought this screenplay is getting so much like official, like getting all of these institutional kids. Yeah, um, which is also not like I mean, yeah, I mean, it's it's it's it's signals something, but it also like who cares about awards? And I'm just kidding to quote Pat Regan words awards are silly. But I just want to say before we launched in this discussion, and my overarching feeling about this this movie is that, uh, I see the flaws for

what they are. I enjoy it as a piece of entertainment on its you know face, I guess, But then I just I think what it's saying about gender relations in the way that they're dire right now, it was very interesting and absolutely was like kind of welded with entertainment value of the film. So yeah, I think that it's an amazing debut for her. There you go, But okay, not this alright, So spoiler alert, Hi everybody, um skip ahead to in this episode if you want to listen

to the rest of this episode. Spoiler free for promising young women because we are about to spoil. Okay, thanks bite. Watching that was the last tendency. Minutes of it were so shocking and it was just so incredibly visceral that I had to sit with it for a second because I loved how bold it was. It's it's crazy to

me that she had to die. But the way that it gets there is we're supposed to believe that Alison Brias kept all of her phones that she's ever had, and and that you I'm sorry, but because that's true, the script is no and void for me when it comes to awards recognition, because that is crazy and you don't have the climax or the end of the movie without that, and so this needed another pass. Unfortunately, I

don't fully disagree. I don't fully disagree at all. In fact, I'm like, pretty much all the way they're with you, I just think I don't know if there was some intentionality to the way that Emerald Vanelle wrote this grip to be like, oh, the moral code of this world is so fucked up, and so the sequence of events that lead up to this tragic, brutal thing are also almost nonsensical because there there there's something nonsensical about gender

relations to begin with. I can, but that's that's a stretch. I realized that. And and people have also pointed out it's like, yeah, she goes to med school with her best friend, where frat parties are like all the rage. That's another one. That's another one I I see. And I sort of retorted back to someone. I was just like, well, maybe in the world of this movie, med school is an undergrad in America. Maybe maybe that's that's the realm. But I'm just saying like, well, and I totally agree.

I totally agree that it could be that. No, no, no, no no, it could be I don't think it is. Um, I just think we could have figured out that there was a video. Gretta suggested maybe the lawyer is the one that has the video, like when she goes to Alfred who plays the lawyer, like he says, I'm sorry. I was the only person that could have bought this from happening, and I've been sitting on this and that's why I feel guilty. To me, that's like an easy fix, and it's also another way that it can be a

man stepping on them. But so this Allison briefing, I had it under contract that she needed to be in at least two scenes. I mean, that's a shame because because I thought the movie worked so much better with just the one, because I thought Allison Bree was so great and that scenes, and I thought that really the whole cast was great. UM. And I loved so much of the humor. I love the use of music, Like when it opened on that remix of boys and all

the Khakis were dancing around. I was packed, Like I was like so on board that first shot of her in the red chair that was iconic. There was a lot of really great stuff here, and I do think the fact that it is such a bold choice at the end UM does say something. I will say there have been a lot of pieces of art like this that have gotten overlooked, such as the show Sweet Vicious

from MTV, which was created by Jim Kayton Robinson. This does owe something to those things, like because and also you know, we've seen this type of thing before with Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and we've seen um, you know women, yes, women radicalized or galvanized by things that have happened to friends of theirs or themselves, like in in their actions moving forward towards the patriarchy. We've seen this, but I think this is the first time that people

are really talking about it. And I think that there is a lot of credit due to her Emerald Finnell, and I am a huge fan, but I just don't know if the best thing for her and this movie is like, let's give this particular script an OSCAR for Best Original Screenplay because it's just not a tight script. So then your your issue is not with the movie.

I mean it is, no, no, no, no, it is because because because the script is not But I was gonna say, but your your issue is also with the critical response to and the awards sort of, Um, the just just just like it's not commensurate with the quality of the screenplay that the fact that it's getting all

this awards recognition. To be honest with you, yes, I think that there is not there's I'm really surprised to see critics make less of the scripts obvious flaws because but also not because who wants to be out there being like this movie has problems, you know what, I like, I don't. I don't even I want everyone to go see the movie. Like That's why I'm talking about it

this much, because it's it's provoking so much conversation. I do think what it's saying is so important about how violence against women, like it is it is truly a virus, that is that everyone is infected with, like it's just and even when a woman is it is just she just can you can never come back from violence from men because it's so ever present. It gets buried, it

gets forgotten, it gets completely erased. Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like the burning, like like create them creaming, creamating her body in the end was so shocking and

and violent. But but you know, there's something maybe you can say is on the nose about it, But it is just kind of the statement of the whole film, which is that it's like it is so relatively easy for the patriarchy, these two men to burn this corpse of a woman, Yes, to eliminate evident, just to eliminate the history and the record of any violence that's been enacted upon her, and they did it without thinking about it,

you know what I mean. That's another thing I've actually there's been some comment from people I know that are like, some of the performances are all over the board, like the men were too big. I don't think the men were too big men. This this is how some predatory men are, Like, that's that's how they are. And they would absolutely the second another man says to them, you didn't do anything wrong, You're fine, We're going to handle this. Of course they believe it because they get away with it.

So I thought that that was actually a great observation in the movie. I thought the way that she depicted men across the board was great, and I love so much about this, but it just it's it's I have a problem with the fact that like that we're not talking about some of the scriptlas. And another one I had is that in the scene with Christopher Men's plas, she basically says to him every week I go to a club and I do this, and this is explicitly

what I do. And I'm like, you are overstating so much right now, and I one it is who is that a note from like that made it seem like they need to make it more clear. They didn't. It probably was from Universal or focus fe it was probably it probably was a studio it. It feels like that, which sucks. And I mean like people who have been on that side of it, like I haven't, but people have been on that side of it, like hate it.

When I think, um, with her body being burned, I'm like, this is the don't because I've heard people say that like totally it doesn't know what it's all over the place and all this stuff, and I'm like, I think it's all intentional the way that it is like so maximalist about it maybe, or there's just it's it's very overstimulating. Oh I and I love that about it. It feels like it's there's some like Tarantino aspect. Maybe we're like it's it's gratuitous. And yeah, even with like the Roman

numerals like flash, it felt like kill Bill. It felt like that same vengeance was driving her. And I feel like the reality of this world is so cartoonist or like I just think, um, some of it, some of it is intentional, the way that it's like, okay, wait, the phone's been sitting there for eight years and she went to that Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, but but sister

supports sisters. Yeah no. But the thing is, like, I would rather we talk about a movie like this than anything else, and so I'm so happy it's out there, But I like, I don't know, I just I don't think when people are afraid to criticize something in a constructive way that that that's good for art I just don't think it isn't so if we're afraid to say what's really up with some things in this movie because we want this movie to do well, Like, that's not

good for for creators or for artists who are going to have an extremely long career. And she will be around forever because Emerald is brilliant. She's brilliant. But you know, I think you're putting something out there that's very good, which is you can want this movie to do well and be recognized, but you can also point out, yeah, what's you know, what's what's happening? You should get a

letterboxed girl. Maybe I should. I don't know. I'm just kind of now for some reason lately, I am into watching a lot and it's I almost feel kind of crazy being so hard on that movie because like I did really enjoy watching it, and I fucking love that it goes for it and I also love that it's like written by a young woman who has like something to say, and I love Carrie Mulligan in it, and I really want her to do more modern things. I

know she was so good at that. She was so good and sure her performance is incredible, and I just I'm such a huge fan of hers that there's just like if there's little things that need to be like changed, Like I just think it's a bummer that they weren't you have you seen Manari yet? No? I can't figure out how to watch it. How did you watch it? Did you watch screener? I got a screener link, but um, okay, I got I gotta look. I'm sure I have a link. I'm sure I think you have a link somewhere where

you can, you know, ask around, poke around politely. I also would say this promising young woman is a lot better than love life. That's that is the thing that we're not talking about. Is it. That is like the reference which is is it better than love life? Yes?

And the answer is yes. I just I just was expecting absolutely nothing with love life, and so I was blown away when I felt gratified at Anywhere Away promising young woman I was told would be the script of the year, and then I was like, what about that? What do you think is the script of the year so far? Do do you have a pick? Honestly, I haven't. I haven't seen enough. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't seen enough. Yeah, I mean neither. What do you like?

I heard the Trial of the Chicago Seven is fantastic. I need to I need to watch that, um because it is Oscar, Susan Girl, It's Oscars, and I can't believe we're in it, but it's it's just not I mean no disrespect to the films that are in contention. I just feel like it's just such a weird year. Yeah, they may win again. They're saying she uh Francis may win a third Oscar. Well, Chloe's out is also winning

every director awards, so we may have. We may see her win Best Director at the Oscars, and people that have seen Nomad Lands say it's absolutely incredible. I can't wait. Did did we did we point this out when it came out and we were like, we're a sequel will

win some awards. Miss Maria back has also been killing it with the critics awards and supporting actress, so this is usually a good sign that there's like the critics have obviously chosen her as the one they would like to see at least nominated, but there's this there's this whole thing where it's like the way you get nominated at the Oscars is pretty much if your peers vote for you, and people in the actual industry vote for your, not critics, and you're like, we don't know if she

has peers to speak of, Well, I don't know if she has pure support, Like I don't know if every everyone, everyone in the academy is gonna like put her on their list the same way. It's like I wonder, like the critics are awarding promising on women the Screenplay Awards, but I wonder if other writers are going to look at the script and say, yes, this is what I would vote for. Like, I just wonder if other actors know Maria Bakalova enough or saw Borat enough to vote

for her for the award. I fucking hope, so, I hope so too. Um, I haven't seen one night in Miami. I have to you and I love Ms Regina Regina, I mean she They've been talking about her all year. You know what else I really want to see is UM Malcolm and Marie with Marie with Zendia and UM John David Washington. I haven't seen The Father, The Father. I should check out people rave about The Father. I heard Olivia Coleman. I'm looking at the film Experience. We

should have Nathaniel back on. We got to have him back on UM. And honestly, it's been such an interesting year for the whole Oscar season. Because I realized this the other day because I did my sack. I was on the nominating committee for SAG TV, so I was looking at like an awards schedule, and um, the Oscars are in April. That's like, that's crazy. All the way into the year. It's gonna be literally we're going to

the damn beach. Okay wait, I'm looking at Nathaniel's prediction index for best supporting this is this is just cracking me up. Marie Bacalova, Borat, Ellen Burston, Pieces of a Woman, Glenn Close, Olivia Coleman, The Father, Amanda's Eye Freed, make I'm like, this is the most first of all lovely, all white selection, but I'm just like this random asked group of names, and Maria Bacalo is at the very top.

I don't know if is that alphabetical. Uh, it might be alphabetical, but he does he does do a very in depth analysis, and I think he's got her like pretty much on the bubble. But they're saying that it's gonna be like pretty much a cake walk for Amanda Cipher this year for Mink, She's she's a lock on Nathaniel's list, but from her ya um, she's the critics choice in a very likely Golden Globe nomination will boost her profile. But Oscar really goes for improv comedy that Daniel.

I mean. The thing about her performance though, is it's like, yes, it was improv comedy, but but it's also like you can't tell me that she didn't put herself out there more than anyone else ever. Has she had to hit like these emotional beats and moments really really hard, And I think she nailed each one. Like when she's in the car with the babysitter, um, when she's with fucking Rudy, it's like it's crazy. She is a star. She is That was a great movie, and she is what you

walk away thinking about. And I think that literally she put herself in her room with Rudy Giuliani and went was willing to go there, and also was so funny and touching throughout she fostered that relationship with her babysitter, Um that was unbelievable. And I'm sorry, but you're talking about being convincing. She gives this woman for weeks or months and the and the woman was like really hurt

by it. Did you see this well? I saw another interview with Maria where she said that they had a conversation. Now it's all good, and like Maria and her had this great relationship, but at the time that the movie came out, this woman was like, I feel so deceived and I and like my heart kind of heard. I was like, fuck, oh, I was like I thought that Borat like I thought that, you know, like Lynnell and the first um Borat movie, like everyone was in on it.

But I guess with her it was different. Um everyone in the first part. But I also think good for Sasha Baron Cohen, I'm not to give credit to like you know a man, but it's like a man but in all the press stuff, like he has really championed Maria and everything, he's just like she's incredible. She's the fucking star. Like this movie is about her. Yeah, she's She's absolutely the story of of that of that movie. I mean, there's there's no doubt. And if she were

to win, I'd be thrilled. I don't think she will. I think it feels like one of those things where it's like they have the opportunity to give the award to like a young starlett and so they probably will. Um. It feels like they would love nothing more Hollywood than to call Amanda cipherd an Oscar winner. Um. And they have an opportunity, so they'll probably take that. But um, if she gets nominated, I'll be really happy because I always want there to be at least one solid comedy nomination.

Like I was one of the people that was saying the years ago when Tiffany Hattrich was getting critics awards for Girls Trip, I'm like, why not what other performance was more entertaining? You know what I mean? Like she nailed what she needs to do in terms of supporting actress in a movie, like she was the comedic powerhouse of that very successful movie. And if the goal is to you know, recognize merit and those types of roles,

then why wouldn't you support something like that? I mean, you know what I'm saying, I do he has Tier two and Nathaniel hasn't Tier two. Um young junk who plays the grandmother in Minoris to watch this movie. She's fantastic. I mean that whole Yeah, I hope she gets that whole cast. Unbelievable. It's because I was going into this movie being like, okay, like Steven Jan's like the star. Um, it's all five of them carrying that together. It's really

really crazy. I really hope that they that they um do a better job this year with representation. If they're going to nominate Manori, they should nominate the actors because what happened with Parasite last year was like truly fucked up, unacceptable because then it was because they didn't know or learned the names. And if she has delivered a performance that's disserving, that's deserving of an OSCAR nomination, she should be there. I believe she has, like something happens to

that character. Um late in the film. I won't spoil it, but like she like she just she just does it so so well, performs it so well. Okay, Francis, he has Francis, I'm just looking at actress and supporting. That's doctress and supporting. I'm Francis mcdormant is a lot. Viola is a lock. He's carry even as the Caribbean Zendeia

as as in the as the top tier. And so the thing about the thing about Zendeia is the movie now has come out, UM and it's not getting the greatest reviews, but apparently she is phenomenal in it, and they're just so obsessed with her right now. And there's the industry. I think, after she have won the Emmy and she's obviously so fucking good on Euphoria and why wouldn't you want to UM, I think encourage and like champion the fact that like she's this incredible young actress,

similar with Amanda Cipherd. I'm like it seems like if she is good enough, we'd be hearing about it more. And I hate I hate that, UM, one person can win this many awards, but if she's fucking deserving of it. Frances McDorman will win a third Oscar probably in this movie, unless they give it to Viola Um who should have a best actress or yet her her first step best actress. That's right, Yeah, an interesting season. Well, Vanessa Kirby, do

you did you watch the Crown? I watched her seasons. Yeah, so, Vanessa Kirby, did you know that she's known in England as like the greatest stage actress of her generation. Yes, I didn't know this. They consider her like to be as good as Kate Blanchet, like they she's like she's incredible, yeah, truly and and stunning unfortunately as unfortunately being shallow. I'm

just saying, like she's fucking gorgeous. A Glamazonian, Glamazonian, Glamazonian young woman three historic l Amazone Glamazon huntress a D. Vanessa Kirby. Is that it's actually it's rural culture number fifty five. Vanessa Kirby is prehistoric Glamazon contress a D. Is that can we quickly? Um, she's got a point. She's got a point. She's a legend, She's an eye legend.

Is the moment? Now come on? Now? I wanted to check in with you, about how you felt about Gaga's national anthem after we discussed it on the last week's episode. How did you feel about how she turned it? Well, you, I don't think we did not discuss it. You let's not erase history. You. I don't think so, honey. Her I I don't think so, honey. The concept of twists on the national and do you think do you feel that she performed some twists. I don't think she did

much of a twist except what she went. Oh say, she kind of gave it like a very much an option on the Oh, she made it operatic, she made it it was she was very patriotic. There were there were enough flourishes in there that it felt like I would I would say they constitute a twist because between that's what it was. Oh, Doug is dragging her twist. Do get in here, Doug, get in here. Yeah, get in here. Actually this is good because he actually was emailing me about what I thought about it, and he

did have some interesting takes. Do get into he sometimes I do get I do get individual emails from Doug. So never Okay, Well, first of all, we have to address this. I've never gotten an individual email from Doug. I guess I don't have a personality Michelle Vissage. He's like Michelle Vissage talking to an Asian queen and let

him answer for himself. Why don't you why do you sometimes email me and not bowing Well, Matt, you were the one that brought up the Lady Gaga thing, so right, I just figured, and I don't like the group emails just because a lot of times when I get sent on the group emails, I'm like, oh my god, will you take me off this fucking group email. You figured you didn't want to upset Bowen with something you weren't sure he wanted to talk about. I didn't know if

you wanted to talk about it. I would have loved to talk about it, very hurt. I actually loved it. I thought, I from the Lady guy thing. Really, I don't like people doing that song. I thought it was amazing. Okay, so when you say the twist we're in the timing, what do you mean you weren't dragging? No, no, no, no, Like they were just their pauses and it was the space that she was leaving was not typical in my in my mind, not so much the melody I felt

like the melody was pretty pretty standard. It was just like she left these little gaps and it was great. I loved Okay and you felt it was art pop? Is what you're saying? Yeah? Absolutely? Can you say the words Lady Gaga doing the national anthem was art pop? Lady Gaga doing the national anthem was art pop? What do you really think that was? Believed it? What did you think of Jlo? Doug? Yeah? What do you think of Jalo's performance? I didn't really see it the way

I watched Lady Gaga. I I didn't see it live. The Lady Gaga thing. I went and I watched it three times in a row. I saw Jlo and I went and I didn't make it through it. I think she's a be rated singer and a be plush dancer. I just don't be plus dancing is undenied. Don't don't you don't do this, don't do that with Jennifer not be puc okay. Saw Hans is pointing out, this man hasn't seen hustlers. Hustlers? Did you want bowl last year? Doug?

You don't you got it? Before you make these claims, you have to you have to get downloaded on the information. That's all I'm saying. But this is this is also when you remember this is someone who said he didn't really know Celine Dion and despite the fact that he was working on her album. You know what I mean, Like that's like unbelievable. We have to accept and understand this. Man. You have to see this is a part of the unity in the country. You have to see people where

they're at. I know, and look, I've been in I've I've had to work with a lot of engineers in the last few months. They all put up, put up their walls. You have to impress them, Doug. Doug always puts out there this this this unscalable wall that you have to really break through. You have to be Gaga sing the damn national anthem with a bird on her chest. What do you think of the birds? What do you think? And the outfit ensemble that was fine? With the bird

it was it was interesting. I have never seen a bird on an outfit like that. That was the first for me. Ohole new one might say, Okay, well, Doug, thank you, well, one more question before you go, did you didn't watch the Katy Perry performance? Was good? Yeah, it was good. It was good. It was it was really it was very proud, it was very spirited. She sent firework. It was the last moment of the election,

was Katie Perry singing fireworks. One thing I want to to set you to say that before you go, is you said you worked with Katy Perry once, and what did you say about her? She's an amazing musician and can sing her butt off. Yeah, dou you gotta check out her MTV and plugged set. Excellent, really good. She was a good guitar player. She's talented, she really is. And I mean, I'm a Katie cat. I listened to

Daisy three times today. It was number two on my most played Songs of and He's a star in the video? Did you watch the video with Matt Matt with Matt in itt I in her music video? Not the End of the World anyway, you just don't really listen. Dock doesn't listen. Bye dog, Thank you, go back to engineering

our show. Alright, So, um, that was as always illuminating, you know, I think, well, first of all, we should say yes, that was a moment that embodied unity in the way that Joe Biden wants it I don't know that unity is the thing that we need right now, not to get to We don't have to get into too much of a discussion about this, Queen go off, because I I did want to talk about this a little bit. Yeah, Queen, I think we gotta we have to honestly like punish people who who want to like

endanger on a mass scale people's lives. That's all. That's it. It's the billionaires ethics for me. Sorry, right, no, right. I'm at least happy that after the insurrection, people are calling them what they are, which is terrorists. I'm happy that we're finally using that word to describe what the passionate Trump base really is because this is what they wanted to do the whole time, was takeover. They want power for themselves just because the dictator is basically telling

them that they're entitled to it. This is what they always were. So at least I'm happy that we are finally fucking calling it flat out what they're doing. What they're doing is domestic terror and inciting domestic terror. So at least that but everyone that's still in the government that was beating the drum of we we they need to be out, and it's crazy that that part'still has to be a discussion. But crews should be out, Holly

should be out, McCarthy should be out. These idiots like Bobbert and Marjorie Taylor Green, who are these Q and on at best Q and on sympathizing at worst literally Q and on UM presentatives. It's just crazy that they're there and you've got congress people trying to bring guns onto the floor of the House of Representatives. I mean, it's it's gotten to a point where it's like, you're so right, we need to literally remove people who are in positions of power if they believe these things. It's

not time for for quote unquote unity. We need to unify behind the principle that this isn't acceptable. It's that whole thing. Everyone's seen the infographics. But you can't tolerate intolerance otherwise intolerance wins. And also and every attempted overthrow of government that has happened in South America or in

Central America, that is that was incited by US imperialism. UM. Anytime, anytime the fascist leaning party was not punished or snuffed out, they ended up coming back with them with the with the rage. It's it's we can't do this. I mean, I'm already worried that, like there's this collective amnesia from like January six already that it's like, Okay, now we're in Joe Biden's America. Let's turn a new leaf. But um, like have all that stuff on the underbelly and not

acknowledge it. That's the feeling that I get that is kind of worrying me. It's gotten to a point where, because the news cycles so fast, it feels like we can move on and this is something we did a really good job of like calling out for at least a few days. But now it does seem like the conversation has moved on to Wow, isn't it great that

the Press secretary is actually doing her job. It's like, yeah, that is great, But we don't really have time to get used to a positive new world, Like we need to start fixing what is truly bad in this country and and start understanding and and um reckoning with why what just happened happened? Yeah, it's okay to think, oh wow, it's so refreshing that people who are competent are back in some institutional power position. But it's also like that should not be like the thing to celebrate when it

should be. It should have been the normal thing anyway. And even then, like having those people in those positions is not itself and that positive anyway, I'm gonna I'm saving this for my I don't think so, honey. In some way, I think like Janet one six one was like one of the darkest days of this whole fucking country, and like this is this is my own personal vendetta, this is my own personal bullshit, And I'm like, I will remember the people who were like creating content that day.

All I'm saying, I'm like, guys and whatever, that's that's just me being petty. But I'm like, we have to like really sit with this horrendous thing that has happened. Um that we can't and we can't even deal with it in the way that's like this isn't who we are, blah blah blah, Like that's not even true. It's like we just have to like solve this. This is something that we have to solve immediately, and that we can.

I mean a lot of people are going back and forth about whether or not, well not really a lot of people are going back and forth about it, which is part of how I'm saying this, always that we have to have this discussion. But whether or not an impeachment is what the country needs right now, it's important that everyone knows. And well, people were saying that about

the impeach and now about tradiction. But even if it's not quote unquote possible to get seventeen senators that are on the Republican side to agree to convict the president of inciting an insurrection, it's it's it must we must go through this process because it's so important that everyone knows that no one is above the law. What are you listening to? What's your music this day? Well, I'm listening a lot to. UM actually made a new playlist and it is is you know you're gonna you're gonna laugh.

But there has been discoveries recently that are very me and that they're happening about four or five years late. UM, And I'm embarrassed to say this. I'm really embarrassed to say this, but unfortunately you did. You didn't know who FKA Twigs was until very recently. I always knew who FKA Twigs was, but then when everything came out about child a buff with her um I I kind of, for the first time ever, decided to like really listen

to her, and I am sucking obsessed with her. And I feel embarrassed that it took that for me to really investigate who she was. But I'm also angry at you about it at Twigs, because I think that you didn't you didn't have sister support for me. By no, you did not have sister support. You did not provide No, You're stupid, flop. I always give you what I am sampling at the moment, and I'm giving you, I give you a sampling many of what I am in consuming

at the moment, and you always push away. That's that's what First of all, day, it's the same with Zelda. It's the same with everything. First of all, here's what you just did. You said Zelda, which I've played, you said ninety day, which I'm literally patiently watching it. And then you said, it's the same with everything, because you realize there was nothing else you haven't sent me in a long time that you're like, you need to listen to this song. You have not, and it's you the

cooler half of this pairing. That's supposed to introduce me to cool things like FK Twigs. I try to introduce you to cool things all the time outside of music, and I think that music is something so personal that I don't want to infringe on your taste because we have different listening and consuming diets. That's like a media saw diets. I'm sorry, I'm I'm mixing my words up. The way I feel about you right now can only

be described in the song Cellophane by FK Twigs. To know it's a really good Twigs, it's really good Twigs um. And also I I what what else is on this playlist that you're four or five years later? Okay, we'll get this, so it's Twigs. I have the easy Casey Musgraves remix by TV. I've recently started discovering l King because I liked the song the other night on Drag Race. And then I found this song Americas Sweetheart, which I didn't know it was like a huge hit, but I

love it now. Um Driver's License by Olivia Rodrigo Drag. Then I have all the instrumental covers um from bridgertain of those pop songs like girls like You, Thank You. Next, I think they're really cute and honestly I out to them. Uh. And then next on this playlist is a song called Toy by Netta, which was recently showed to us by a friend of the pod, Chris Schlicker, because she won Eurovision with this song. The song is amazing, Netta Toy. Everyone needs to listen to it. What what country was

she from? She was? She was Greek? I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't want to say um, But while you look that up, I've also got Netta bars al I. Um, yeah, she was from Lisbon, Lisbon, Yes, yeah, Um. Then I have remix um for some reason, for some reason, You're making Me High by Tony Braxton. And then two songs from the Promising Young Woman soundtrack, which are the Boys remix by Charlie x X and the drow Low Remix.

And then Angel in the Morning which ends the movie and I'm sucking obsessed with I'm started to make a correction. Netta is uh is representing Israel and she is? It's really um Okay, So what about you? What's your playlist recently? Have you listened to Hotels by Jasmine Sullivan? Oh? Yes, you have to listen to hotels. I've been really, I've been putting on good days by says a lot. You didn't happen to flick on the versus um with Kisha Kole and Ashanti, did you? I didn't? Was it okay?

I don't really, I don't really. I I like both of them, I don't really know them well enough to appreciate that versus. Here's the thing, um I was. I used to love Ashanti oh Shanty was it? And I love Kisha Kole. I really liked both of their music back in the day, and I kind of assumed that Kisha Kole was gonna eat Ashanti up. That did not happen. Um Ashanti sounded fucking great and I enjoyed it, but the energy was a little bit weird, which this is

my thing with versus at all times. It's like you're doing something which is one person pitted against each other and it's I know, it's all in good fun and it's just something to do for quarantine, but like some people who are gonna feel a certain way about how this goes, and the energy is gonna be weird. And this is the first one I've watched where it felt like the energy was weird between them. It is can

I say something? You can say anything. It's very cultural, which was our I don't think so honey show where we pitted people against each other. It was a battle. It was t you were either on team Matter team Bowen, and we used to be obsessed with being adversarial. That was it was always fighting. It was Matt versus Bowen on a team. It was night soap. It was it was a cultural Yeah, it was adversarial, but that show was a funny show and there was some iconic moments.

Annie Donley walking down the aisle, fucking look, Pat Regan's his big win. Um, the feud between Annie Donley and Michelle Collins, Judge Collins. Um. I just think it was weird energy because people were really, actually genuinely hurt by the competitive aspect of it. Oh yeah, I remember when some people would lose the heartbreak in their eyes. I just I'll never forget it. I get what I understood, and I was like, oh, what have I done. I've I've had a hand in making this person feel bad.

But but when you enter into the ball, understand there's going to be a victor and a defeating. Um but but that's the thing that bugged me about this versus. I was like, oh, they don't look like they're having fun. Like they were on their phone. The other one was singing no, that's not acceptable. It was there was this one screen grab of like Kesha Cole like belting a note and Ashanti face in her phone. It was I rude, rude, But they were both They're both great, but I thought

Ashanti was left with the upper hand. Let me finish Jasmine Selevant Hotels um you know what album from last year. They came at that that I slept on and then I think a lot of us, No I'm not. I'm not speaking for everybody. Victoria Moune Jaguar incredible album. I took an edible the other night and I just like, put that album on. I was like, I was like, I've heard once the one song she does with kale I. I haven't listened to the rest of the album. Put it on. I was like, oh my god, I am

the girls are vibing. Victoria's that the reason for the season, reason for the season. And I have to say, the only person I've described with that descriptor recently was Noma from the undoing, So I say we I would. I was just gonna say, because she's begun to engage on social media. She's she's I think she loves social media and she there's a lot to talk to her about.

We can talk to you about Harry Potter. Oh girl, Yes, there's some I I really have been obsessed with with Noma ever since the undoing, But there's so many interviews of her um where she you can just she such like she has this quality about it that is like Betty Gilb and that is like I'm trying to think of other people like these actresses who are just like

earthy and like present alive, present alive. It's like, yeah, it's a present like just like understand their the core of their being in a way that is like so thrilling to see. And I think I think Nomah really, I think she really embodies that. Oh. So, your wish list for this year is as follows Natalie Portman and Nomads fenty and any Sandberg. So we have a long list and here's the thing everyone, we we're gonna be doing like weirdly enough, less guests. I think we're doing

this thing now. What we're doing a guest and then just us, and then a guest and then just us. I know that many people's favorite narrative of the podcast is what are they doing now? So this is just to let you know that's what we're doing. No, I'm just saying I think we're constantly talking about like maybe we'll do this, or maybe we'll do that. Yes, yes, yes, no, this is the cadence that we're going to try out

for a bit, see how it goes. I wanted to I wanted to bring something up which we have not discussed, but the sex in the City of it all. We are both such fans and we haven't gotten a chance to talk about the fact that they're rebooting it. There literally was a teaser released. Of course, this film will not have the character of Samantha. Yeah, it's it's sorry movie. Did I call it a movie? Yeah? You said, well, okay, what I will really first of all, everything is a film. Uh,

This this limited series, I guess or series. I don't know how long Ago will not have Samantha. And I needed to know what your take is on all this. I think I don't think it's worth it. I think you're missing, You're missing there's I mean, it depends on how they handle the absence and how they address it. I don't know that it's possible for something narratively to exist that's sattuty that would be satisfying to see and like, oh wow, okay, I accept this. I'm going to waunch

these three women. Maybe they can't, they can't replace, they can't add a fourth person in, but it's it's a weird thing for me, unless unless the whole thing is about Samantha not being in the group anymore, you know what I'm saying, And even then the absence is like so central no matter what, there's no option where it's not the thing that everyone is thinking about. I would agree.

I think that if she's not going to be there, it can't be a thing of she's in l a or she's in another country, or she's busy, because we've literally already seen a narrative where that's true, and we know that she keeps in touch with them constantly. So unfortunately, I do think they're going to have to kill off the character for it to work. And there's no world in which that's not the focus of the narrative exactly. They are so crucial together as a foursome and she

is such an integral part of the show. Um, not just the humor of the show, but the soul of the show. Why the show works, um as a as a sounding board for carry, as like a vestige of carry, an extension of carry. Um. You need Samantha, and I think that loss has to be something that we we as carry. If she's are like Avatar, go through, we must. I agree with you. You know, it's also interesting that

they can't really work around is that they can't. They either have to kill off the character or they have to write in something where it's like there was a falling out, but it's just it wouldn't really be believable because because Kim controlls whole thing. Is. Throughout my entire time working on that show with those women, I felt left out. I felt blah blah blah, felt blah blah blah. That was like a long standing sort of like long simmering conflict with sex in the city. It's like the

best most touching part of the first movie. And tell me if you agree with me, tell me if this is sister support is when they're in Mexico and carries in bed and Samantha comes over with the tray of food and like feeds Carrie. You don't do you know that moment not just not just smiles she she just smiles and she's like feeds her, just like feeds her. And I'm just like that is I think Joel and I agree, like that is like our favorite part of

the movie. Yeah, I think that with me. No, no, no, I mean there's a huge emotional like pillar of the movie and the and the fact that like we watched this woman go beyond best friend. She's family, like the four of them our family, and so that they're not going to have a falling out, you know what I mean, not when Samantha is in her sixties, you know what I mean? I just or or who knows, you know

what I mean. Like I've enjoyed the show for years, and the content since the show ended invariably, Like I loved the first movie for what it was. The second movie I don't think we needed. But um, when we're doing a limited SERI is afterwards and it's not going to have Samantha. I just think we we have to engage with that fact that she's not gonna be there, and you know, a lot of the show does examine what it's like to age as a woman, and obviously a part of any person's experience as you age, as

you lose people. So maybe you know, if I'm gonna be really optimistic here, it'll be something really good for the series because it gives the women something to explore on a very deep emotional level, and it is also going to change the dynamic, so that in in a way it could be a gift for the narrative. But then you also have to contend with the fact that we know what it's like when Samantha is there, and it's so fun, and she is the really the reason for so much of the comedy of that show. A

majority I completely agree. I have nothing to add also, just like I feel like I feel like, you know what, it'll be a good thing if it makes Carrie realized she needs the divorce big because I do think that that that needs to end. Sure who who? I know we're saying that no one could replace Samantha, who could be the fourth woman who in the already existing cannon of sex in the City would be a good replacement. I think either Amy Sadarris or Margaret Margaret show and

they already existing Cannon. Honestly, I don't think there is someone in the already existing kinda. So this is what I'll say if if it was going to be anything, they need to make a new friend, and it needs to be Vivica Fox. Yes, yes, yes, because I'm not seeing enough color. I'm not seeing enough color. And when I started the series, it's our job. I'm not seeing enough color. We've only talked on the podcast about how Matt has added that lilt and that inflection to that

quote quote unquote where it's enough color. I'm not Ellen Pompeo goes, I'm not seeing enough color. But we have twisted the auditory memory of this. I didn't see it when I came in here, when I came in here today, and I didn't see it when I gave near today. Name another legend, another legend, um one more thing I wanted to ask you about before you jumped into I don't think so, honey, um, Yes, thank you for driving the conversation today. By the way, girl sister support we girls.

Sometimes on these culture catchups, I just want to hit the cultural items because sometimes the girls, the readers, they get a little edgy with us afterwards when we haven't discussed it. Okay, you're right. So I this touched down in the news just today. Um so Disneyland, did you hear they're gonna revamp the Jungle Cruise because it's so basically this is part of like a whole initiative that the company is going through where you know, they're changing

Splash Mountain, the Princess Tiana and Friends. It's now going to be like a um Princess in the Frog thing, and the Jungle Cruise is finally taking out all of its like very racist depiction of natives, um and just changing the narrative so that those things aren't in there. And I was just thinking to myself about how like that entire area of the park, like which is like um frontier Land and eventure Land, it's entirely about colonialism.

It's about imperialism. Yeah, it's just interesting that like finally we're waking up to this. And then I thought about the Hall of Presidents, which has just had Trump giving speeches every single day in Disney World for the past four years, I guess, and now they're putting it down so they can build the Joe Biden animatronic. But I'm like, maybe we should just get fucking rid of this and

like revamp the entire thing because it's not acceptable. No you, oh my god, you should have played um BioShock Infinite where it's truly like it's this, it's this, It's just like game that takes place and I want to say, like, let's say the thirties, forties, fifties even um that takes place on this steam Punky l o L city in the sky called Columbia, and basically like it's this like place where um, this one guy I forget his name, Um, Hans, did you play it? Maybe Hans can fill in the

details here, Yeah, okay, Hans, what was that guy's name? Oh? Com Stock right there? So this is I love what Hans is just present right away that you know he's listening. I know, you know he's listening, Hans. Hans looks really good today. He really did. Everyone Everyone look up Hans's wedding. Is that you know what you know, what's you know? What's so interesting that he looked? They know he said no when good? They look so good. When you type

in last cultures and to search, Hans pops up. Producer Hans everyone. I mean, Hans is a good name. Hans. It's because we talk about you constantly. So something like back on in the Forever Dog days, when we would say HPJ Hot Producer Joe Joe, all the fans would always be asking, it's not happening for me, what's not happening lost Cultures. He's apparently typing it in literally, Hans,

I'm telling you what happens. If I do it right now, it will pop up, open up, open up, open up, um incognito mode, and go to Google dot com, and we're gonna lost culture estas I'm telling you it does, Hans. Yeah, I see Hans on on an incognito like. It's not even algorithms to my own searched history. I see it. Lost culture Cultures does Hans. It's literally the third thing it says, Last colturesas podcast, last culture to top two hundred, Lost Colturas Hans, Hans star and I'm really happy that

it's and also Lost colturreesas. Doug is up here too, dog An, what about Anna we need Anna love? Everyone starts searching for lost culturess Anna, we need we need some Anna love. Um. But it's also that it says lost culturesa Survivor watch order. So the girls are are doing that, they're seeking it out. Um, Okay, the autofile, that's what we're saying. Yes, the Auto Phil, that's what he said. Do you mean the Auto Phil. Yes, the Auto Phil. We do mean the auto fil Um. Wow,

I'm before Matt Rogers. Okay. Um. Basically, it's like it's not a theme park, but it is just like separate space that celebrates and like venerates America in a way that is completely darkly like glorifying like slavery, and like it's like this is what the Founding Fathers would have wanted, Like this is the only city in America that the Founding Fathers would have been proud of. It's like truly,

it's roughly the description right right, Hans. But anyway, like that game L O L woke me up to like that ship before like any book, and now I get

to like read about all this stuff. Like that was the game where I was like, oh, all of America is like darkly darkly white supremacist, and I mean I knew that before, but like this was just like a weird like way in to be like oh, like yeah, the things at Disneyland and Disney World that like celebrate American history in a way that like looks past all of like the violent brutal stuff is like should not exist.

I don't know, not that it shouldn't exist, but like it's just I don't know, it should be reconceived absolutely, And that's when you realize like, of course, um, Americans have this insane ego and believe that arsal resistant to change in these areas because we've been inundated with even in Disney World, which for someone that's from like suburbs, like product of like you know, baby boomer generation American dream whatever like from then on, like is the picture

of idealic society. And how you celebrate quote unquote other cultures like is to experience like something like you like you would in Disney World. And literally it's like their depiction of natives is disgusting, Like Splash Mountain like is based on a racist movie, like and that's the most popular attraction there. It's like all these little things and we've just been We've had an animatronic in Disney World that's Trump performing every day like it's crazy, and that's

they can't have him. They can't have him speak anymore, Like they can make it so that he doesn't say anything and he just sits there. I mean that's I started to change dot org position years ago do not do not build a Trump animatronic, and it got some traction. Disney did not listen. In fact, Joe Walsh, who ran for president, posted it and said the liberally look at them.

They've gotten more ridiculous than ever. And then he ran against Trump as like, I'm the Republican anti to Trump, and he was like he fully tried to drag me online, and I was like, thanks for the boost. Remember before Andrew Breitbart died, he tried to drag me online too, and it was just like bitch and he died and as a result, he died. As a result, he died. Um, all right, is a timebrand? I think so, honey. I suppose it is, Oh my god, okay, this is fun.

This is I don't think, so, honey, Matt, what does I don't think so, honey. You always ask, and I feel like they know, but I will say, because if there's just one person that's listening that doesn't know, it's worth it for them, you know, if this changes one heart. And that's what I said when I started this podcast

with you. I was like, you know what, but I'll do the podcast with you because if it changes one person's mind, if it changes one person's heart, if it makes one person realize within themselves that they need to change, it will have been worth it. Do you know that? Do you love that? Do you love that? Seling dionce on One Heart? I love that song? Do you know how it goes? Can you sing one Heart? Keep you wondered? They do it and they love so so way through

the night. Listen to it. I've never heard it, but I love it based on the way you sound. Do you know what song I love? The other night? That I was and I'm actually gonna listening to it after the lane? It was, Yes, it was selling. It was the reasons, Oh yeah, every day incredible you there is? Oh my god, can we get god? Oh my god, Selene Dion, what a treasure? Anyway, I don't think so, honey.

Is one minute of ranting against something in pop culture that we don't like, and you say I don't think so honey while you do it, which a lot of our readers last week got a little upset at Tricks even tell who I don't think so, honey. But what I would say to Tricks even tell him? Not say I don't think so honey. She doesn't need to and she get what a fun episode that was, Jesus very fun. But this is I don't think, so, honey. Would you like to go first today? You're gonna go first? Oh

my god, Well, I think that's a bad omen. I think that means things are going to be back words for everyone. Oh my Gokay, listen, uh, I feel confident that it will go forwards. And so I feel so confident that will go forwards that at this time I have no hesitation when I press go on this bowen Yanks. I don't think so honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Celebrating Joe Biden reversing the trans

military band, who is this actually helping. I'm not saying that there aren't trans people who want to join the military. That person exists, Those people exist in our country. But just wanting to abolish the police is incompatible with glorifying, celebrating the military industrial complex in wanting people to join it. Because we're doing fine we're doing more than okay with

the way things are right now. Um, I don't know if you've heard, but defense spending and defense budgets are sort of the biggest money suck that is kind trees ever ever had. We don't need to celebrate the idea that trance people get to be part of this terrible, terrible, terrible, nefarious force in the world. Patty Harrison said it best. Um, I don't want to be invited to the party, but um it's I'm hurt that I still wasn't invited to right or wrong doesn't make it right even still, And

that's one minute. That's a very interesting take. Bone Yang. I think it's a take that a lot of people are sharing the today. I mean so so yeah, we're recording this on Monday. I think over the weekend that's when dre Biden repealed a reversed I'm sorry the band, and like it makes sense that it is a good thing. It's on a net positive right, it's a good thing, and that there's equality in terms of THEA and all and all forms is bad and so I guess like

in terms of like, yes, you're honor. This is why we're supporting this like any discrimination should have no place in any workforce. So I understand why people are And also there's a lot of people out there that want to serve their country and you know what I mean, And so yes, everyone should have an equal opportunity to

do that. But what you're saying is totally true, which is it's the same thing as people celebrating the fact that we have our first black defense secretary where and then people are like, oh, yeah, now I I'm so touched that I'm represented, um and like now I can now little kids can grow up and be an aspire to be defense secretaries like Hares. It's just it's just

really it's just really weird to me. And it's that meme of like, you know, you know, Democrats having like a plane, like a bomber airplane with like BLM and the Pride flag on it. It's like, wait, it's like we're still we're still like um funding the destabilization of other governments worldwide, and it's it's just I don't know, Yeah, it's like America put on like a hot dress. I was like, like, didn't didn't like um do their hair,

you know what I mean. That's exactly right, it's like we still we still know it's you, and you're still shitty. Why did you come to the party of this week? It's between like my dress that says pride. It's like it's a cute dress, but you're still shitty. You're still shitty. You shouldn't have come this way. No, thank you, that's exactly right. Are you ready? Do you think I'm so stupid? I think I will never, ever, ever stop telling you

how you are like one of the smartest people I know. Okay, well, then I think you'll like my I don't think so honey. Okay, girl, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey. For remote, in order to work my TV, it's four remote. I have to turn on the TV with one remote, then you have to turn on the cable with another remote. Go over. Then there's the Apple TV remote, and there's more remotes for volume and ship. I don't think so

that the remote are often small. The Apple team everyone is so small it could literally go away. Not only am I responsible for four different remotes my four children, but now some of them are small and easy to lose. I need one remote, one remote to rule them all, because four is a crowd, and it's a crowd on my coffee table, which already has other things on it. It's like insane for remote. And also I'm sorry, but the fact of the matter is this LG remote, I'm

gonna drag you. It's chaotic and a lot of these remotes have different sensitivities, so it's different adjustments. I don't think it's wanting too much work. It's like math and that's one minute. It's like math. I absolutely agree with you. Roku. The Roku is too much Apple and what's the fourth okay, able to see? That's why I don't do cable. That's why I do the YouTube TV so that I can at least control and on the same remote as the Apple TV, which is yes, too small. This is so tiny.

This is one of the smallest things in America. The way that's one of the smallest things in America. The way I've lost that thing and gotten so panicked. I'm like, how will I control the TV? I don't want to do it through my phone? Nightmare. They need to make that remote, that's specific remote, bigger. Look at this, here's the thing. If a remote is smaller than a dick, I'd be excited about it needs to be bigger. Every remote needs to be the size of a good dick.

And I'm looking at this Apple TV remote and if I saw a penis erect that was this big, I'd be like, I mean, I might lose it in my mouth. Yeah, I might, This might go missing in my There you go. Can I ask you a question, a personal question? Yeah, what is your like sexual vitality right now? Are you feeling horny? I'm so I'm not. I'm so glad you asked this. I went to this of the book sort of a green light um in Brooklyn. I picked up

a few books. I picked up De Transition Baby, which I'm really excited to keep reading and I'm really enjoying it so far. M the novel. And then I bought a book called Getting It. I forget who's written by, but it's this really nice, thick handbook on like ethical

hooking up. There's a book called The Ethical Slab, which is classic, but this is like a really fun dare I say, like very millennial designed book that it's about like modern hook up culture and like a way too like really considerately approached casual sex and like understand the reasons why you specifically the reasons you want to hook up with people, um, and how to like it really like builds this foundation on like consent and um disclosures

and all this stuff. It's great. I'm reading this now and I'm and I'm getting horny, and I'm like, okay, even me reading about hooking up is getting me horny. I don't I'm not saying that like I'm and I'm like enacting, I'm acting on my sexual vitality um recently, but I've been horny. You should read this book and maybe it'll get you horny. I'm surprised that Love Life

didn't get you horned up. And literally there were some scenes in it which were like her getting railed, and I was just like, I really shouldn't horned up right now. But I'm just like, good for her. I'm so excited for her. YEA, Ordinarily I'd be like, I gotta stop this to pump one out. I got to stop the show.

It's so horny. I got the pump one. Oh my god, you're being that is this is this is what I'm picking up from that I was gonna say Barbara streisand and um Tim Platt, our friend to our friend Tim Platt, pump one out that it really is a good a good combination of Barbara streisand a a Muppet or a sousany Street character. He he's, he's, he's worked with at the Sesame Street Workshop. I love Can we say Sesame Street is such culture? I fucking I mean we sound

like shell were sharp. There's no there's no bigger Sesame Street fanatic than Chile Sharp that I love that, but but we love Sesame Street. Oh are you kidding me? Me stuck at home on sick days, not having cable. I was fucking fourteen years old, still watching Sesame Streets, still getting my kicks. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Dark Monster Cookie Monster name another legend. Cookie was one of the biggest icons of my childhood because he knew what he wanted.

He was unapologetic about it, but he wasn't antagonizing anyone. He was just like, I'm so sorry, I miss me se Cookie. I have to eat I have to eat it. He wanted it so bad and he said he set me as I am. And if that's part of unity is seeing people where they are and Cookie wanted cookie, and Cookie also was saying to the children, let's eat vegetables now and then too. And Cookie is she has a point. She's a legend, she is the moment. Now, come on, now, I was gonna say one thing about

Cookie Monster, and I forgot. Well she's blue, Well, she's blue so good with kids. The kids love, the kids are addicted to, addicted to Cookie Monster. And I just I were singling out Cookie Monster. There are other sesame street people that grouch will stand the test of time, stand the test of time, Elmo, you can get a little, much can get unless is the spotlight, I think, and we can get very annoying. And and it's now we said it, and now we said it. Big Bird is,

Big Bird is stoner Icon chill icon. Girls are vibing when Big Bird is around. Yes, big Bird is a legend. Big Bird is a legend. She's an icon. She she's a legend the moment. Come on now, did you see the trailer the little clip from Wendy Williams biopic Don't worry? It is the scene where she's dressed as a statur of liberty and a fainting spell. Don't worry. It's that don't worry. The actress gives you Wendy, don't worry. There is dramatic underscoring underneath it. It's clear this is a

huge pot point in the film. I don't want anyone to worry. I just didn't want anyone to worry about the way worry. Don't worry My Williams. Have you you've seen the It was just so much good Wendy stuff. I mean, I'm just kind of I might be preaching to the choir, but you have to look up at our listeners and to my sister Matt. But there's just

so many good videos. I've showed you the video of um Her walking out to the studio into silence and people it's just and then and then like Wendy Williams with no sound and then just what I think, it's so funny and it doesn't really make any sense. But have you seen the one where it's the Halloween Show and they she said, she's talking, she's doing hot topics, but they cut remember in the audience who was wearing like a full on like zombie mask that covers their

entire ft and it looks terrified. And when they must see the monitor from where she's sitting because she's talking, and she goes, so anyway, and then they cut to this audite whatever and it's a full zombie. Then got back to day. She goes and everyone knows what I'm talking about? Who's listening to readers? They go, she goes, what was that? We know? Looking up right now, it'll take two seconds. Look at Wendy Williams. What was that? That's all I have from lover? What was that was that?

It's it's so funny. It's eight seconds long. Perfect hold on, yes, I hope I don't get an ad. Bitch. YouTube was popping off with the ads lately and really pissing me. You have to get the extension that blocks the ad. What was that? Wait? Wait, wait to watch it again? What was that? And you know what what was that that? It's very it's very sward. I'm so glad we brought this back up last week when Trixie was on, but um, it's very breaking. Leg What did you say? What did

you say to me? I said, no, I'm not gonna I'm gonna get you. That's what I'm gonna. Did you see? Oh my god, I guess I guess Tiffany Poward said something transphobic, and she had this woman's sage on her Instagram Live to like walk her through what she had done. Um, it was really she had a moment. I heard that she really like she was illuminated by something and that like it was like it was an interesting moment where she learned. You know, she you know, she she's trying

to take the right steps. And she gave space on her Instagram Live to this um trans woman stage who like really didn't let her off took She was like, I want you to know I'm upset with you because what you did was transphobic, and this is I'm willing to come on here and have this um conversation with you and engage with you because that's I think how we're all going to get better. But it's not really up to me right now to like accept your apology.

And Tiffany did a couple of times did try to exonerate herself, but you know, this woman's age was very paste patient and overall, I think it was a good discussion, but I did watch the whole thing. It was it was interesting to see Tiffany Pollard grapple with this She's someone who has a capacity to become president of the United States. That anti course correct sort of in that way. Of course, you know, we shouldn't be surprised that someone would push back. Um, but it seems like it sounds

like overall the directionality of it is positive work. I mean, from where it was to where it is. Yet I don't exactly know what she did and I didn't I'm I think it's something that she did on her new reality show. But but it seems like she was willing to start a journey, which is good. That's great. Listen, bo another one in the basket, Another one in the basket. I was I was gonna just do it again. I'm not gonna break like I'm gonna get the part. That's

what I'm gonna do. Amazing. What was that? What was that? It's very you What was that? What was that? When? Isn't whenever whenever? She I'm apps, Candian says, you know, Tanasha is really getting into it. Was such and such perfect Jonas pretty good children didn't look so good at

the Emmys. It's so funny that when they cut to her audience now, which is just like ten people spread out wearing how you doing masks and they're just like nodding and clapping along and you can't see their mouth and just their open open eyes looking at Wendy like, mm hmmm, alright girl, Um another one in the basket. Um. I think that um, we should end this podcast the way that Katy Perry ended the election cycle with this song. Do you feel like a plastic bag drifting through the

wind again? Do you ever feel so paper thin like a house of cards? Do you have feel already very deep screams and no anyone seems to hear a thing. Do you know that there's still a chance? Were you? Because this fucking new You just gotta knight the light, live shine, just this night likeness July because it's very horrified you work came to find your word, let him go. I was just showing grout the sky For more of that song. Listened to Firework by Katy Perry on the album Teenage Dream, Bye Bye,