"Sexual Walkabout" (w/ Joel Kim Booster)

Don't Think So Honey Live at the Bellhouse. We're so excited to finally perform there with a brand new roster of fifty comedians doing their amazing inaugural I Don't Think So Honey's live for a rabid crowd. We can't wait to see you there. Dang don La culture calling. Let me tell you all. Matt Rogers, my co host, is currently straddling the back of his chair like about it, like a fucking Backstreet boy or the Spice Girls and

their lives stand bullshit poring you. I'm talking about you did that because I remember I had the VA just tape of the Spice Girls concert and there's one They're naked there naked spoiler alert for those of you who haven't seen the The Spice Girls Tour vhs. But they are naked, singing naked and like the chairs, the backs of the chairs are covering their ariola. Point. Jerry, who you know is the fastest of all of them, fast, rises out of her chair a little bit and the

amount of like ariola. You don't see any ariola. You see the vagine. No, you see almost ariola, okay, And I feel like that for me, even as it confused first of all to racy. Crazy thing to see as a seven year old. Racy, it's one word for it, for sure, you know. Um. That reminds me of the time when I saw the trailer from Mulan Ruthe the first time, and I turned to my mom and I said, I want to see that and she said, no, no, that looks racy, Katrina. She was right, it was a

racy film. Um. But listen what I'm sitting like this because I feel it's more comfortable for me. But the jury is out on that because I've been sitting only like this for a brief wan to do you want me to like stall and fill in the time as you readjust or now, because of what you can do. You know what I trust you to do while I readdress give the gredits, okay, but I will give the credits. Guys, this is Lost Culture STA's history. This is our first

return guest on a recorded episode. So Pat Regan famously is our on a weird technicality, our first return guests. But this is our first return guest with a prior recorded to make it to air, to make it to air, So guys, as Beyonce would say, this is a pivotal moment.

As Beyonce would say, listening to the b the album and you listen to Resentment and then you you let Resentment play through and there's a pause all the time, and then it's a Beyonce spoken word intro to listen, and she says, I really wanted to do this next song, which I wrote for the film Droom Girls, which we know she did not fully right, that's all right anyway, and she says this song is well, it's a pivotal moment in the film. And it's just like she's reading

off some cards. I mean, that's fine, that's fine. It's totally fine. I was just quoting, Okay, do your job, so here the credits, Baby, I was Matt readjusts his unsustainable posture on his chair. You, guys, this is a true blue colstur cultural. He's one of our closest friends. Um he has. You will have just seen his half hour on Comedy Central fucking slayed the house down, Boots. Also, his album is coming out Model Minority. It is so good. We were at both live recordings, baby, and he killed

both recordings. Honestly excited to see which cuts made it from either night. I definitely was watching both nights. I wonder which cold um and I feel like, no matter what, yes, people will be very satisfied, very satisfied, ha ha ha. And um god, he's just otherwise prolific. You've seen him on Conan, and you will see him on Conan, and you will see him on Conan, and you've seen him on a comedy knockout. The list goes on. Guys, please welcome our friend Joe Kim Booster. This is thrilling to

be the first. That's right, Pat Regan the first. Now Pat holds a real um place in lost culture. Restas I guess, fan enough fandom. What would you call it? Canon? The cannon as you know, the icon of original the third co host? Spill tea right now, No, don't do spill the tea here and the tea will burn through the ground. It's so hot. One time Bowen said to me, maybe we should get a third co host. No, I did not phrase it. How dare you? I said, And he said, I just feel like you could be better.

He never said that, but he did. He did, he would go out of the idea about you. I said, Hey, just a wild idea. What if we got a third co host? Like what if? I couldn't believe? And I was. I was like, because I'm listening to this PAD episode and it's so fun, and like maybe every now and then I couldn't. I can't imagine. You wouldn't be able. You wouldn't be able to have I love Pat. I think Pat is one of the most underrated comedians in the community. I think the industry needs to take note

of Pat Regan. But I can't imagine it would be a three person podcast. Every time there would be room, there would literally there wouldn't be room at this table. We've said so many times it's a small table, Get us a big or a table. I mean you're on your time out best podcast award winner award. Okay, But also a lot of things have changed since I made that statement, because Browan is currently pulling up Pat Reagan's instant story. Pat No, no, no, not not a insto story.

Pat Reagan sent me this menacing bullying video in reference to our upcoming show Culture as part of the New York Comedy Festival, which we can announce right now that we're sitting with one of the judges, one of the judges of Culture. He and he and I have had some antagonism going on in the last few days. I wouldn't say it was an antagonism for me. I think you came for me on Facebook, which was not a smart strategy for come for a judge online. You initiated

this antagonism, I didn't. I just teams, the team rosters went out. You said, wow, a lot of heavy hitters on Matt's team. Someone's feeling competent. Yes, And I would say I would say that is my pretty neutral No, I didn't say anything about the quality of your team. I didn't say a goddamn thing about your team. I didn't say you mass at least add that my team had to listen. If you want to project that onto my comment, If you want to project all intent onto me,

one of your closest friends, then that's your decision. Also prerogative. Also would judge. I don't know, bitch, I don't know if your jet lagged or what. But this rageous, this is him all the time. I don't know about this. Well, I want to play No, I want to play this video, this very menacing bullying video, honestly, and I will post by the time this episode releases, will make it online. This you gotta hear this, so it is really in

rare form. Oh so I should preface this by saying that the way that our teams were chosen was Matt and I at the same time. I was at the airport in Brisbane and Matt was god knows where um, but we at the same time. We arranged a time for us to send each other probably street corner and Prospect Park cooking and looking, cooking and look in, and we arranged the time for us to send our picks at the same time, so no one believe it was

two thirty pm. And for me that was like you know, uh something like that, and then um and he overlaps any conflicting any any members. We both wanted we would have to fight over or our flipp a coin over, and so no, we would debate. We would debate, and I knew that Matt would have his picks, and so I wanted to have as friction lists of a list exchange as possible. So with that in mind, here's Pat's video that he sent me. I know it was an on your list for culture. Don't try to lie, bitch.

I just taught me everything and now I'm going to make you suffer. So I'm so proud. No, No, he's a bully guy. I had heard a peep out of any any of the any of the delicate flowers on bones something. They're being really aggressive. Amanda Dwarte is being really aggressive. Praise be she is doing everything right and she I I call foul play when she shared foul play when she shared Nicole Silverberg's post amazing post and said, how could Matt's team even show up when Bowen's team

is out here doing good work in the world. I feel it's an appropriation of I feel she appropriated. She can't you can't appropriate your own allies. Honey, you can. I can. I don't know about that. Maybe my language is off, but I know my heart. Okay, you know this is a Real Housewives defense. If I had ever heard how there is no argument that you can come up against that. I don't know my words, but I know my heart. Oh that's gorgeous. Put it on my tombstone.

I'm telling you, I don't know my words, but my heart. Recently on Real Housewives of Dallas season two, which is a must see for even in an uninitiated Real Housewives fan, it is a it is an amazing show season that we've got everything. You've got a woman who wants to start a pink dog food company, the evil head of a cosmetics company. Um. Everyone's marriage is failing, and there are two former best friends, much like Bowen and matt Um.

On the off season in between the first and the second season, one of the friends wrote about the other friend's marriage that it was like watching a car crash happen in slow motion and in on her on her like Bravo affiliated blog, and then the other friend. So that we come into this season, the friends are feuding and the one friend who wrote that on her blog doesn't know why her friend is mad at her, and so they have early in the season confrontation about it.

And her defense of writing this about her best friend's marriages, Well, that was just on my blog. That was just something I wrote on That's just something I wrote on a blog, which I think is very ragyan. I mean, that's just in my heart. That's just when that's my heart. When you're drowning, you don't fight to the surface politely. That is what the un ending fount of fucking nonsense over here. When they're drowning, you don't be polite. Guys. Matt is in a place right now where he wants to like

come up with these platitudes. But the thing is is you can't argue with it because because well I know that if I were drowning, I would not want to be polite exactly, And so I don't know, I don't know what application that has to a conversation. Polite is not an alternative and like being rude, whatever, you guy, you have no idea how to even Let's just walk it back. Okay. There was a show called Battle of a Divas Okay, hosted by Everything to Do with this

the thing we were always admired about this podcast. It is so alienating to viewers who don't live in New York, and it's not people love it. People love constantly. Both of you will be like and then one day Amanda said, blah blah blah blah blah, And I, as a listener, know who you're talking about, but a gigantic following. You are a unequivably a very successful podcast. And I would guess that the people who listen don't know who nine. That's not true, as they culturalist us here in my call.

I know that you're all out there. I know what you're out there with. Your Google's out searching, searching, searching, And here's what I'll say, looking for these names, these trash names, Amanda Dwarte, Nicole Silverberg. That wasn't even the Amanda that was referencing that you mentioned, but who was. Yeah, ye, people know her. People know Amanda. They know her because we've referenced several times. But I would say, there's a

list of ten people under Team Bone and that's ash okay. Well, and now what I was saying was you don't know what it means to truly fight. Oh my God, Team Bowen, just understand that your leader, he lost to me at Battle of the Diva's when I was rapping Christina Guilera and you were wrapping Britney Spears because you tried to play the quote unquote right way. Well, I will win no matter what. That what the dude, no matter what you know? You know what that makes you, Matt what

it makes you? Know what? That makes me, first and foremost Hillary Clinton, And it makes you the monster who smashed the political machine. Don't Valentin Valentine. I'm Hillary and your Valentine. What I'm saying to all my fans, what I'm saying to all my fans out there is why don't you visit the instagram pages of Bowen and everyone on his team and just show them a little bit of love by posting a rose Oh my God act on the on the day of Selena's birthday. Of all days,

is that what today is? Today? We were recording, We were I mean, yeah, we're recording on Salina's birthday. Anyway, Please don't don't do that. I just want to say that first of all, at that very show, and we have to bring Joel into this, but he's in it. He said he's in it. He's in it. But I will say, and I've I've said this on the podcast before. You ad Hominem attacked me so hard. You called me old when you are older than I am. You said both Brittany Spears and I are um stupid and old

like those. That was your argument, that was your main argument, and I don't think for that to have been an effective strategy. Is Trumpian and Valentinian and Rogan Ragan and you know what wait, hold on? Was Dallas? Is Dallas the one we're in a recent episode like they were on the beach and then one of the how so I've thought it'd be funny to put a dild. Yes,

this is Dallas. They're all awful. They're also terrible. No, I actually think that there are there's one that was born was abandoned at a carnival and grew up at as a carny. It is and and she does bring it up at every possible like to get out of any situation. It is her trump card, and it is amazing. I would they're the woman who wants to start the pink dog food also her like angle her narrative and all the women say this about her is that she's very smart but she plays dumb, and I don't think

that's true. They have them there. There's an honest tea party that they have where they each put in an anonymous question about one of the other girls into a teapot to like sort of get all the tea out in the open. And I think it was no one thought this. And this girl, the girl who wanted to start the Pink Dog food company, one of the questions she put in and everyone's saying like, why did you say this about Stephanie behind your back? Why did you

say DeAndre can't come into your house? Etcetera, etcetera. And then they get to one and it just says, what's your favorite vacation destination? And this girl was like, yeah, I didn't know what we were doing here, that's amazing. Or actually she is very smart by doing something so in not putting something in that she's so stupid that she is on a different level, So it's hard to tell. It's very January Jones thing. It's like is she a good actress or she's so bad that does it come around?

Full totally suit made me watch a couple episodes of New Jersey the other day and have you been watching New Jersey not the new season night, okay, because there was a huge conflict about one of them baked a cake for another one and I think it was like Teresa or someone else took the cake and threw the cake and the restaurant, and the argument was the girl who made the cake and gifted it to the girl was upset because she felt she was disrespected and also

they disrespected the restaurant in her quote unquote town. This was her town. But the girls who threw the cake, who whose birthday it was, said, well, it's my cake, I should be able to do what I want with it, which and it sounds very rogging, sounds exactly like something I think with a cake, I wouldn't throw. With a cake, I would say something like, well it's my cake, so I can do what I want, but I wouldn't throw it.

Trust I have respect for restaurant employees in one city who like was too classy to be on the show. There's there, well, there's a lot. There's a lot. There's at least one on every season on every franchise, like Carol radzwill is a fucking Kennedy and she's on the show. I'm going to say this, it's very roging and like Matt is Maddie Roger and in the Housewives world, Matt is the Teresa. I know they're different franchises, they're different cities, but I'm the Carol. I am the Kennedy and Matt

is like the New Jersey housewife. To put things, to put things in New York terms, I think Matt is the Ramona. You are the Carol. I have so many problems. I don't even watch the shows. I don't even watch and I'm sorry, I'm not saying that. It's like you are not the Carol because Carol is untouchable because she's always right, and you're not. Oh my god, you have some flaws. Okay, all right, and you are Countess Luanne. And this makes Joel the dy coo and of everything

because he is just watching idly. I want to say something, Okay, this is your podcast. If I'm Christina and you're Brittany, who's Joel Jessica, No, no, no, may Mandy because he can keep the career? Is that what we're saying about it that he has claimed to fame in all of this career kept a very stable, consistent But that's that is a hard plate to spend. I will say that I believe that for Joel. No, you're saying that I'm going to have about a decade of a dip. No, no, No,

she never had. Never jep, Honey, she never did. Because even in that quote unquote dip, she was turning it on Gray's and apps the timeline I'm not familiar music music, music, walk to remember, how to deal, saved, Saved, and then did Gray's Anatomy, then right into Tangled. Did not know that she was on Grays She she did two episodes, No, she did more than two. She was in she was in the shooting episode, she was in the one supersized shooting episode. Um, and then she came back during the

documentary episode. And then at the end it's revealed that she dies. It was very sad and it's like an emotional moment for and now she's doing Sally Field drag regular on This is Us. She is doing Sally Field drag. I don't want to watch that show, no way, refuse. And I really like Parenthood, which is sort of its spiritual predecessor on ABC. I really loved that show. But I can't to. I just can't do emotion porn right now.

I feel like the world is too sad. I don't need I don't need that kind of entertainment in my life. That's why I'm watching Real Housewives of dat. Yeah. No, honestly, I've been obsessed with Project Runway. Oh yes, you so I have missed a lot while I've been gone. First of all, we have not addressed that I've been away, And we'll talk about this later, but I want to talk about our our media diets right now, specifically Joel's.

He's the guest after all. But Joel I feel like has a very wide breadth of He's a very wide, sophisticated palette. I don't know. This bitch is posting all the time on Real Housewives Facebook, But I'm saying I don't think he watches anything else. No, but I think he watches a lot of it. Okay, let's let Joel speak for yourself. So no, I I think I do

have generally throughout the year a pretty good diet. But right now, you know, as bowen It was involved in this project, I've been developed being a show for a cable network that is as yet undisclosed, and it's uh. And I find as I've been writing this show, it's very difficult for me to watch regular art of television. So I've been watching a lot of Real Housewives, a lot of American Ninja Warriors. I don't think any they haven't. They haven't shouted it out as much as you would think.

Some of the women, it seems clear, but uh. And some of the men, it seems must be there must be. Yeah. I think I think there have been at least one that that I'm aware, and then a lot of them. I actually I dived into Will and Grace and I haven't seen the new. I haven't. I haven't seen the new I've been watching. I've been putting on the old

one in the background. And I started and I got to say as I began, I said to I thought this show benefited from being unavailable for so many years because I did not think it held up as well as I wanted it too in my brain. And there's two and I'll say one more thing. I'm now in the final season, and I actually think it gets much better. I think it's flit. I think, unlike most sitcoms of that that ILK like Frasier and Friends and things like that.

I think it actually get gets much better because it gets more absurd and less tethered to reality. And I think, um,

the other thing. The other reason I think it doesn't hold up quite as much as I wanted it too is because I think so much of it was so formative and informing my own comedic sensibilities that it felt old had Like I watched the episode real early on where uh Jack meets Share, and it wasn't as funny as I remembered it being, only because it was so ingrained in my like like Jack's impression of Share became all of our impressions of And so I think, like

it just didn't hit me as hard. But I'll say, like, as much as some of it just does not, I don't. I think it's up. It was. It's a lot broader than even I think Friends or Frasier was at the time. Sean Hayes does some incredible work on that. He's incredible, and he's continued to do it in like the there I guess new iteration. It's so theatrical and yeah, and people talk about Karen, who is amazing as well. I

think Mega malally is incredible in that show. But Sean Hayes is so like the stuff that he got they put on television of him doing is so outrageous to me, Like even watching it now, the gay guy do like fucking backflips and ship like like there's a scene where he pretends to be pushing through a crowd as he's escaping a scene of a breakup, and it is and it's the guy from Amazing Physical, Amazing Physicalstel referred to

it as chaplain esque. Yeah, it really is, and I think I encourage everybody who even though I agree, I'm not sure we needed will and grace back. I think if I think it's it's it makes me feel very anxious that we think, you know what, you know what I think it is, though, I think it's a little

lit miss test for friends reunion. No, really something else I thought you were going to say, Like it feels I know they started the wheels turning back when it didn't feel like Trump was going to be but it just feels like this way to be back in two thousand,

which is like crazy to me. I do feel like we're hitting the nostalgia like psycho of like well, how did how did things feel back in the late nineties when everything felt sort of post everything and all right, Like, because now do you see the slate of juke buck musicals that are coming out that's now a fast share Jimmy Buff, Jimmy Buff that I just saw a list somebody listed the ones that are coming down the pike and there's like eight that in development right now, and

that's like that I feel like was a product of that same time period too. I feel like as the alt right is sort of reviving all of these things that died in the past now where the like liberal response is we're doing the only thing we can. Jukebox musicals and Will and Greg and multi camp sitcoms. I have been really I have been like pleasantly surprised by Will and Grace, though like I've heard that, I've heard that I just haven't had the strength yet to visit it.

I I totally get that. I've watched the first two. I couldn't get past the first five minutes of the first episode where it's like they talk about they Definitely it was a pretty hacky start to the episode, I thought, because it was like we have to justify why none of the last season matters or like you know what I mean, like or kind of toss out the last three episodes like what like they just like we're throwing slang around and it was just like oh no, no, no, no, no.

His first line is like a grinder. Yeah. Yeah. I think Also the one my one takeaway now that I'm getting from Will and Graces that Vince is the best gay boyfriend I think we've ever had on television, on any gay focused media, I think Vince is the best one. And he pop. He colonized my brain, I think in my taste because I was thinking recently about like what I really want and what my type because people will ask me what my type is, and I think my

type is one of two on two spectrums. One it's either I give me a swarthy Middle Eastern Italian Mediterranean man and a full Adidas track suit who grew up in Queens or give me like a corn fed Midwestern boy who is a golden retriever turned into a boy like that is that is those two sweet things? Well I did one of those, and so maybe I'll try the other thing same. I think I think we both had at the time when we're like the we're dating sort of the same thing right now, and it felt right.

But I think let's find our track suits break them out, honestly, you know what, maybe that is next. Um, Vince is one of our best gate boyfriends. And I will say, just to bring this back to Brittany, one of the best pop star guest star appearances on a sitcom. She was pretty. She was really funny. I'm right around the corner from that guest she was. She was like surprisingly funny.

This was like right before seven, right before the breakdown, and she like at the time was like turning out the comedy performances and like this was back when you're like, oh yeah, she like had a really good at SNL episode and really good and um but and then she like plays the fucking lesbian talk show host, like a super conservative talk show host who turns out to be lesbian, and it was just, you know, that's what I think

peak TV has. We've lost In the mix of Peak TV is shows like Will and Grace and Friends and Fraser were guest star machine brack hit like every like every episode just had like a random like like start, like all these Ethan Embrey, like you know, these big random Star, but like like truly every episode of Will and Grace, like one of the Boyfriends, or like you know, every what shows like that. Yeah, they're honestly, you know,

not that many. And I'm thinking because even on the multiicams that are that exist that are still clretty Rock might have been the last, the last big one. But like even if you think about the CBS multiicams, it comes that are sort of keeping that tradition alive. They're not doing that. There's not big guest stars on Big Bang or Two Broke Girls. I think that's because really big stars. No, they don't have to do that, and they don't want it because it's embarrassing because the quality

of the shows. Yeah, because at that time, networks were still a powerful force of exactly there are eyes on it. And also you can watch any of those NBC musty TV shows and like actually laugh at them if you have taste, you know what I mean. Like those CBS shows, like they're you know, they're working real hard on Young Sheldon, They're working to watch I've watched a couple of an

app I recently covered myself and shredded Mazzorella cheese. Got so high just eating out of the straight, laying prostrate on my on the flat on my back on my bed, eating out of a bag of shredded mozzarella, covering myself in and watched The Good Doctor and Young Sheldon just as a sort of turning off my brain. I was deeply depressed. You're catching me as I'm entering a manic face. So that's a good for a podcast recording. But that moment, and I'll say, uh, Young Sheldon, the mom there is

if it weren't connected. The problem with Young Sheldon is that it's because the thing is is there are some actually really lovely moments any Potts is on it, Like, yeah, she plays the grandmother. The mother is actually really sort of there are wonderful moments with her, like doing these wonderful mom moments where she's like advocating for her kid who's clearly on the spectrum. And yet you know that this kid grows up to be an asshole who has no sense of joy, and so you're like, oh, well

we know where this is going. It's it's sad because like if if the story was sort of about like how does this crotchety like lame kid sort of grow up to be something better than what he is now. It would be something sort of nice and beautiful to watch. But as it stands, because we know he turns into Jim Parsons, it's like we don't know how big bang theory is. Maybe that's true, maybe he'll turn around. Yeah, but that's not that's not gonna do anything for you.

I will say watch The Good Doctor though, because it is good. Turn your brain, wait until there are eleven episodes to watch and you have the flu, and watch some Good Doctors. Seriously, it's actually good. I mean it's

the guy who created House. So it's incredibly consumable and watchable and like sort of comforting in that in in that its digestibility and the formula of you know, he there's a problem, Like I think Houses so watchable just because it's like you've gotta find that mystery that network television is good at creative the premises he's autestic basically okay, cool, I mean, yeah, i'd watch that. I don't love that kid.

I don't know something about him. He was in Finding Neverland, he was he was in movies, and he also was in Um. I think you're I think you're missing the Marquis role, which is which is what? Oh you're saying, like, yeah, I feel like I'm I don't think. I don't think people are saying Freddy Highmore and connecting him to finding them. I think they are. Should we should be searching con search Bates Motel, that's it Motel, Yes, of course, And

so is that show over? Yes, Vera's career that's a sad story because like Vera is so good, fantastic, fantastic, very, so good, and you know, she's probably one of the actresses that's like, okay, um the should we have our list of twenty and at sixteen is Vera? And you know number three says yes. So it's like, what do you do if you're four through fifteen? And then Carrie Coon and waiting patiently. I think actually Carry Coon's maybe eclipsed Vera now, I think so she's more of the moment. Yeah,

she's oh, she's carry Coon. I feel like it is the Sarah Paulson right now, the television actress that becomes a huge fucking deal because she just keeps showing how fucking good she. I just saw Harry Coon in a play Mary Jane in New York and it is one of the most devastating performances I've ever seen. Understated you described this, She said she had at the end of the first act of Mary Jane that it's sent Chuck, I've never Here's my thing about theater right now is

I don't need to see another dramatic realism play. I I find that boring, Like, don't show me someone chopping vegetables on stage, Like that's what television and movies are for. That's what I feel anyways, And this play is very much that. It's very much like you're watching her full laundry, you know, and that's like a moment. But I'll watch carry Con do that because she sells it in such a way that is remarkable. What is the line? The line it won't make sense that I don't think it

doesn't matter, honey. Why are you sorry? Sweetie? Why are you sorry? I have no idea what it means. But and it's and it's there's layers because she's not crying, but she is crying, and she's comforting, and she's terrifying. It's Carrie. Only an actress of carry Coon's caliber could could pull that off. I don't know if I can get over that. Her name is Carrie. I don't want to say her name carry coon. That's just a bad name. It does sound like an early Amy Adams role, doesn't

it character's name? It's June. Okay, so um, Alternative US has to tell you a little something. So we're going to take a break and come right back with Bull. Jim Couster. Oh, man, I think I sense a chill in the air. Yes, well, if you thought that chill was the fall the autumn, I have to say it's not. It's a chill between you and I. That's because we are going head to head people at culch War. It's our show for New York Comedy Festival, and it's an

I don't think so, Honey, deathmatch. Team Matt and Team Bowen are going to have their own teams of ten comedians basing off head to head in many rounds, Honey, for the title of the Ultimate Culture e Sta. Yes, there will be a hundred dollar cash prize. Now, what are some things you can do with a hundred dollars? Bowen? Oh, I think you could pay for a Spirit Airlines ticket to Tacoma. I think that that's a pretty reasonable that

I was gonna say, uh bill. Oh yeah. I think someone whoever wins Coach War will be paying their condent bill, and they'll also be bringing glory and victory to either Team Matt or Team Bowen. You will find out which team wins on November seven pm. This is for New York Comedy Festible people and tickets are on sale now. We're doing it at Villain in Brooklyn. We're very excited. November seven thirty. It's a Tuesday, New York Comedy Festival, Brooklyn.

Villain is the space, and you know what, November seven is Election Day, And I would say that this election is more important than anything else that's happening in the country. Yes, I agree. Now, if you can't make November seven, if that's not something you can make work, then you can come to the beautiful, more positive, more cathartic uh the proven quantity of our I don't think so honey live show this time at the Bellhouse. We're so excited to

be performing there. We're gonna have fifty brand new comedians doing there. I don't think so honeys as we record them as we introduce their uh stunning lee stunningly incisive attacks to the world and it's gonna be so fun, so fun, got some amazing comics lined up. It will be announcing that very soon. Podcast Festival Honey at the

Bell House. Very excited about that. So again, that's November seven Coach War and I Don't Think So Honey death Match as part of New York Comedy Festival and November eighteen, I Don't Think So Honey live at ten o'clock at the Bellhouse as part of the Brooklyn Podcast Festival. So there you go, people to options and we'll find out who can really serve culture. It's getting colder in here. Okay,

we're back with Joel. Now. Before we get back to no, don't cut all right, let me tell you something We're not Yes, no, do what you want to do. This is not fair. Every other fucking week you come in with some request to cut something out of the episode for some unseemly thing that you say, how dare you rip that? Rip off? My launch made me. I need to retake that. Fine, keep it, keep it because this is the real this is this is cinema. Very fucking tay. Okay, um,

here we go. I don't think he used that right at all. Cinema very day. Yeah, no he did, so somebody knows his words, so I don't know. I don't know my heart, but I don't know my words. Okay, you guys before we get back to I honestly don't know what we're keeping it. Read it. I think this is part of the charm. I think people like this. Yeah, sure, um,

really funny story. Um. A couple of weeks ago, we had a contest for whoever left the hundredth review on iTunes on Apple podcasts, and um, wouldn't you know it? A lot of a lot of a lot of reviews came in, but we have a winner, and I think I think it's not one, but two, because this is two separate drafts of the same review by two different user names, but with two system someone's a boat, someone's a boat, or someone's trying to gain us. I think

someone is trying to cheat. The prize was by the way to quote have their tapestry of words read aloud on the podcast, which is what we're doing right now. So first review, very is from user make Lost culture stas bi weekly. Um title, yes, capital y and that will be important in a moment. Five stars, I don't think so honey, people who work out to anything other

than the sounds of this podcast. There is a reason why the I d T s H is exactly one minute per person, and it's just for your planking convenience. I started running on Wednesday mornings just so I could spend some time with Matt and Bowen and Prospect Park, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Definitely the number one podcast this year. Now the next review by Culture Queen. Yes sah lower case why already different but

sort of similar. I don't think so, honey, people who work out to anything other than the sounds of this podcast. There was a reason why the I d T s H is exactly one minute per person, and it's for your planking convenience, hunting. I started running on Wednesday mornings just to have quality time with Matt Bowen and an empty Prospect Park, and now I'm fit and well versed in all things culture. So those are two very similar.

I think it had to be. They were on their one user, Yes, they wanted they wanted to buy two Raffle takets. I think what happened was, hey, maybe they wanted a bigger chance of winning to be the one and guess what they did, or they clicked post and something happened and they question whether or not it was posted. I think that's that's what they did. Was they wentn't

on their other user, but why wouldn't. And what they did was they said, well, I guess this is my second crack at it, and they made it more specific. I think the iTunes I actually do. I see that. I'm in their mind. I have done a similar situation, because it's like a tweet that like doesn't post and you're like, oh, now I have the opportunity to make it better. And so I think that's what they did here. But I I and I also will say I think

iTunes is on yieldy. I don't know. The interface is hard, it's hard to I just find it really suspect that they created to separate is damn it and use your name specifically for the podcast culture queen versus make class cultures despite but maybe they maybe they thought that the first one didn't create and so again they did sort of. I don't know. You're right, I don't know. I don't

know who to believe. I think there's a vast conspiracy um to Welcome to Info wars to leach, to leach our creative intellectual real estate, to leach off of that, and so I think I think there's something going on out there. Okay, we're back with Joel. Now, Joel, during a break, you just told us that you just saw on Broadway. Yes, my my agent said, you can see anything. I'll buy you tickets to anything on Broadway. Baby opened the gate, the gate, and she said, tell me what

you want to see and we'll see it. And I said, you didn't say Hamilton, No, I said, because I saw it, bitch, original cast. I don't need to see anybody else spit those words. Um no, but I and I said I. I looked at the list of Broadway shows currently playing of the things that I had not seen, and I said, Baby, bring me to come from Away, give me that nine eleven poin. I left it. I sobbed throughout it, and I did. I went in not really wanting to like it. I kind of went because I was like, this is

a free ticket. I'm not spending my own money, so I'll see something I can make fun of. And I that's amazing. Now tell someone who does not know what the play is, such as me, Um, I guys very

uncultured when it comes to theater. Tell me, um it is about so on nine eleven, all the planes got grounded of course, um as you might remember, and um so they all got grounded and so a lot of them got grounded at the a very large airport in Newfoundland, uh in Canada, and um so it was just basically the play is it's an ensemble, multiple people playing multiple roles, sort of tracking real life stories, some composites and some actual like real people of this week that these people

were basically trapped in Newfoundland, like an entire day they spent basically on the tour BAC and these planes, and the it's a story. It's a convergence of the people who were on the planes from all over the world who were grounded and trapped and didn't know what was

going on. We're obviously terrified, and then the town that sort of comes together to support them in this time and then you know, and now there's a there's a storyline where these one guy from London who's a businessman who's sort of an uptight guy, and this woman from Dallas end up meeting on trapped on this plane and then they fall in love and get married and that's

a real life story. UM. And then one of the women was the first UM one of the pilots was the first female commercial airline pilot UM ever on the thing and she, Oh my god, I don't I don't know the actress. Yes, yes, and she was nominated for Tony. I didn't watch the tourneys this last year, but damn, she is an incredible I saw her and you know what I saw her in um IF then Oh, she she seems like she probably lost a lot of roles to Sutton Foster or she seems within that type and

certainly within the vocal range. But just like she's one of the best voices I've I've heard live incredible, UM and it is I believe my plane got to led getting back to America. We're here a new found then and we found each job and we are getting married, but we're never getting back on our playing producer joke, can you turn off the soundtrack? You come from away going to have a bright issue? He just mind, he mind going over to the controls for um. No, it

was fantastic. It is. It is like the Laramie Project, sort of a very docu play thing. It is meant in ten years. It will be done at colleges and in high schools all over the country. Laramie projects come from away. It's necessary. Wow, I'm not building out the credit going into this company. I will say this, Uh, it is meant for for uh high schools and musicals. It's sort of I don't understand the point. It will

be very interesting. It's it's weird for me to think about it being done by high school students who weren't alive during nine eleven. Was very students. I succumbed to the sort of not ness. I actually do feel like they hand it was less a tragedy porn than I thought it would be, because it is it is much less less about nine eleven and more about this specific experience,

which I was impressed by. They don't go into a lot of like they don't feel the need to explain nine eleven to you, like every They sort of they don't talk down to the audience in that way. They sort of like, Okay, everybody coming into see the show knows what fucking nine eleven is. We don't need to

explain it. This is a very unique experience. Like there's like a subplot about all the animals that are trapped on this plane and the sort of the difficulty of like how do you take care of these animals when nobody will let them into the baggage claim because you know, all the they think there could be bombs, and like there's a very sort of subtle um, there's a Muslim character and it's that's actually where I lost it, where they're like letting them off the plane finally, and they

like sort of don't know if they should let him into the town, and it's it's devastating. Um. But yeah, so I felt like it was less tragedy porn than I expected it to be going in, but it is definitely still that and uh not. I I tried to listen to the soundtrack afterwards. Other than Jen's song the Female Airline Pilot song, there isn't an earworm in the soundtrack. I won't say. A song that Joe just played for us was um City Hook City play it again? Yeah,

could you play just one more time? I can't believe my plane gottal We're sitting here on that sarmac and we're never gonna find our well home. But we found each other. We found uh and the whole chorus. So wait, what was that it was? We found? Oh, just sometimes you can just do a vow? Can I tell you, guys? I was in Tesley today? Wait, you were aware tes Bernie Tesley's office, Bernie Telsey cast legally blonde, that's all. It's a casting office. And well, I can't believe, Thank god,

I didn't. I've never met this man, because I've been telling people I have been going to Tesley all day. Uh wait, why were you there? I was just yeah, I had an audition, and I was there's multiple rooms, there's like because they're casting a thousand goddamn and one off some this boy went in. I was in the waiting I was in part of the waiting room with literally the entire cast of Oranges and New Black waiting to go in for some play. And I was waiting to go in for a movie. Yes, I am auditioning

for movies. And and uh, there was a music. I think it was. I actually do think it was Hamilton's. I think they were sort of casting, like you know, they're doing a rolling casting presss for Hamilton's. And this boy sang let it go, let it go in his and then he sang it once and they asked him to sing it again, and he sang it in his head voice and the second time. The second time, but he said yeah. And it was not that I was shocked.

We were all shocked collectively. It was actually a lovely moment between me and the cast of Oranges and New Black sitting there listening to this because we all were shocked that he was asked to sing it again. Wait, were there actual cast members from Osh? They were like like like many, like three guards from where my Black persist in his waiting room with me and no, And I could not believe, who the fuck are you this?

There are a thousand people who want to get in the door to audition for this musical and you're you're bringing in fucking let it Go. Now, I applaud him. I think he's a villain. He's a goddamn villain. Get back to fucking Michigan where you belong. People that do that, I think are they think they're being subversive. They think they're like, I'm gonna bring in let it Go and it's actually gonna be good, And that's gonna really set me apart um because they're gonna be thinking, oh, he

brought in let it Go. I roll, but then it's going to be good. And really it's just like, no, you brought in Lettic. He brought in let it Go. And here's the thing too, he was bad. If he if he had slayed, I probably would be in here thinking telling you an inspiring story. But I honestly feel like they heard him sing let it Go poorly once and then as a joke, as a prank, they said, now try it in your head voice? Fine, fine, fine, what song would you have sung? Come on, let's do this.

I went to Telsey one time and audition for Nerds the Music, and I was there with Dave Mazzoni and Matteo Lane, and I sang Sunday Morning by Maroon five not appropriate. Dave sang um Amazed by a Lone Star not appropriate, and Mateo Land sang the Weirzard and I not appropriate. So the point and Joel, what about you? But already the point is we're not much better than this Letic. We're not musical theater actors. He did he sound like? Did he sound like he did this? I

don't know. I mean he had the arch in his back, if you know what I mean. And he walked out, and so I could tell he had a b f A under his belt, but he had he had an arch in his back that suggested he had a b f A in musical theater from Elon University. But no. Famously, when I was in undergrad UH for theater, I sang the same song for three semesters running at our unified

purpose from Avenue. That's a great song, yeah, great, great little cut from Purpose, and I sang it at every unified professional, unified audition, and it got me two jobs in musical theater. She's a she. They were both thoroughly modern million What would you sing? Little bang Bang? I would sing bang Bang by Nancy Sinatra as interpreted by Lady Gaga during the Cheeks a Cheek tour um. But also I would sing just around the River band bitch, and also another basic Disney song. But if it works,

it works. No, I don't. I don't know. I don't go in for musical theater, and rightfully so same, I mean me neither. I think I've never liked to try and put us, put yourself on our level. We're trash and your singing a singer, I've I'm not a singer Matt Roger. I'm not a singer, but you know who is. Jen Kalola plays the track. I can't believe my plane got to let We'll never get off this time. Mac. I know I won't find my way home, but I've found Husman here. Well, they left the animals off plan.

Look what what is that interval? Okay, hold on it than you? Was it? I can't believe this planet. The interval from God to delayed was God. Now, I will say, you always make fun and criticize my intervals. They're not your intervals come from a ways intervals. We just heard three separate verses from the slightly different Uh it has two different prises. Yeah, but no, I've heard both of you sing live many times. When we go to piano

bars in around New York City. You can find us there, and I am constantly impressed with both Matt, but also Bowe. You have one of the most technically proficient voices. I think you have that. And here's the thing. A lot a lot of people a part about singing, A part about singing, A part about singing that a lot of

people don't talk about enough is memory. And Bowen has I once saw Bowen sing Uh Giants in the Sky A difficult son Sondheim is not an easy um song, like any Sondheim song is not easy to say that an easier Sondheim songs though anybody keep going. Bowen never looks at his phone. Boone never looks at lyrics. Bowen knows all these songs by heart. I can't. I'm so afraid to sing in front of people that I can't look anybody in the eye. I have to look at

my phone most of the time. I can remember lyrics because again, the three parts of singing our memory, resident, and pitch. And I know memory memory is the part one of the three parts of singing that I'm good at. And I still I get so afraid I have to look at music because I don't want to look at anybody. And I have been paid twice in my life on I'm fashional level to sing in front of people live, and I still when I have to sing in front of people in casual settings, I get very nervous. It's

because casual is different than professional. When it's professional that you're prepared for it, yea, And I know I go up here and I put it in my and I speak sing, you know, and I do a little and I actually that's the point, that's the bits, that's what they want to see. They want to see you perform. That's that's why I like Sunheim, you know, because it's for actors. It's not for singers, and that's why they

have so many actors first doing the movie musicals. And that's I saw Into the Woods in the Park in two thousand twelve with Amy Adams and here's the thing. She did the reverse Jennifer Hudson, and Jennifer Hudson only

begins to act when she starts to sing. And Amy Adams completely stopped singing acting when she began to sing because she could tell she like me, she had memory, but she was nervous about the other two and she stopped acting in the That's a problematic thing to do in a Santei musical because once again it's mostly singing and it's a lot of acting. Well, and I did see it the night, one of the nights that Snheim was in the audience, and so imagine being nervous play

the baker's wife. She played the Baker's wife. I saw it with a friend who is an idiot and he asked at the end of the show at intermission, he said, because Glenn Close did the voice of the baker of the Giant's wife. And he said, do you think she's back there right now? And I said, no, friend, I don't think that. Glenn Close comes shows up to set and sits backstage on a god mike and does her lines and acts opposite these people. I thought he was great.

People hated him, but I liked him a lot, mostly because I, again, I appreciate the acting with him, the singing and Jesse Mueller Chicago. I almost said Chicago friend, but she's not a friend. She is an acquaintance at best, and she she's very nice. I've met her at least twice in Chicago, and she's very kind. And her family is like Chicago royalty. They're all all the Mulers are are extremely talented, cool Christians, Christians Christians, but cool, you know,

cool obviously because they won't work in the theater. They have to be cool with gay people. And I saw her brother was in Sidetrack, a great gay bar in Chicago, watched and watched her. His sister went and Tony and cried in Sidetrack and I saw it happen. He's gay. No, but he was just in a gay bar. It's a good place to watch the Tonys. Hey, we're not here to do that today. We're here to talk about Model Minority.

Model Minority album by Joe Kimbers. Now listen. It's out on November four, third, but you can get on Rember four because it'll have been you're trying to wrap this ship. No, no, no no, no no, I just want to talk about that.

I just want to make sure that we want to talk about the album of us and the half hour, but the album is the centerpiece and the albums I want to talk about the alb because you know what was I I thought when I was listening to the album, I thought this would be something that I would have enjoyed very much in high school. I was down there, like not saying that you need to be sad, but I understand I'm saying I couldn't. If I were in high school, I would have loved this. But like a

fifteen year old emotional intelligence, this would really kill um. No. What I meant was like, that was the first time I can remember becoming like really into a comedy album and looking really just trying to desperately grasp at your

role models. Yeah, there were so many. It just it took me back to that place in a way that I remembered being that age, and like discovering all the Margaret Show albums and like, um, you know, I really loved Sandra burn Harden, like it gave me the feeling of wow, I could listen to this album a lot and I feel the same way. Yeah, But you can't say anything original about it, something reiginal. You go, this is someone who has had such a textured life. Look

at him and his eyes. No, no, no, because this is this is this is a scholarly academic assessment. No, this is Here's the thing. In all seriousness, it's an amazing album because Joel has an amazing story and he's able to speak from and sorry to get all identity politics, he's able to speak from this queer Asian perspective. But it's also um, it also is just sort of textured and framed with all these other amazing things that like are so specific to him and no one else can

talk about. And it's it's one amazing on like on an experiential life, experienced storytelling level, but too. It's just filled with jokes, baby, and it's so good. It's so good I would like to hit than it is filled with jokes. Yeah, it's filled with jokes. It filled. I listened to it the whole way through both minds and enjoyed myself both times. I say, is that as a replay value? Bit here? This is one of Joel's strengths as a stand up. He is a master a crowd work.

And he had two very different nights of crowd work. Well, and here's the thing. Here's a little little secret and behind peek, behind the curtain, if you will, about that is I listened to both nights and I went to Comedy Central and I said, I love both these knights of crowd work. Can we stitch it together and make it sound like one night? And I and there he's siging, he's saying he was And I said, and they said, uh, not for all of it, but there is um I

like to interrogate people about. I think that there's a there's a part in the show where I I talked to couples, specifically in couples and I and straight men, and I all both of those we were able to stitch together and it sounds seamless. It actually, they did a really good job of making it sound like I just jumped from and I just did two couples. I was gonna say, I thought you were going to say that they it seems seamless and that it's the it

feels like it's the same straight guy. No, no, no, it is just like it sounds like I'm like, Okay, I'm done talking to you and now I'm gonna go over here and talk to SAP because I's it's one of I. I I come from a place of uh, you know, the imposter syndrome. I don't like to talk myself up, but I will say one thing that I do feel very confident about my my comedic abilities is crowd work. And I love doing it and I um very proud of that aspect of the album. Not everyone

is good at that. I don't love it. I don't. I don't love not that I do stand up, but like you know, like I enjoy an audience's energy. But if someone were to like, I've never this actually is true. I've never been heckled, and I feel like if I ever were to be that would really throw me off. Yeah. Um, but Joel. Joel is just so good at first of all, he's just so quick. But second of all, with any kind of person, he knows how to just tailored his

response to things and his line of question. Yeah, what would you say to a kind of person that was like really tall? Okay? Okay, So imagine they're like seven and they start to say loudly to their girlfriend, when's the next comic? What would you say that seven foot tall person? And that's the only imagine this. I'm I am the comic, and Bowen is my girlfriend who's a normal height. Okay, you're the comic or you're the guy.

I'm the guy. I'm the guy. Hey, when's the next comic? Hey? Hey, I don't know what's going on up where you are, buddy, but down here we're having a comic. Honestly, yeah, I liked it. It made you laugh and so self conscious about my height, but in a way that it was inviting. You know. I love to go to an absurd place as though there's something different happening up up there, up there? What am I talking about up there? That is so?

That is true because truth in comedy, guys, Um, I'm really jet lagged, and so I'm not really giving my my all right now, Like intellectually, I'm just I know, and this is I just want to one up Jewels inferiority complex. Um, I don't think I'm really I don't think I'm just giving the listeners what they want. And I think as a listeners, someone who's been sitting here as both a guest and a listener, I can say that you're giving me everything I wanted. That's so crazy

for you to interrupt an amazing moment. No, I want to make this about me. Um. I first of all, I haven't had time to talk about my trip. Yeah. I was actually just about to say, let's turn it to because I I've come back from Australia before and it's tough. I can't believe you're even standing up right now. And this is the first time Joel and I have seen each other in many, many weeks. And I texted do this while I was in New Zealand. I go, can I let me see if I can pull up? No,

it doesn't matter, No pull it up. I want you to. I know what you're talking about, getting like a bunch of a bunch of bunch of messages on the apps, the gay dating and sexual apps to the gay apps, and I did not act on any of them. So Yang, my sister, if you're listening to this, don't worry. I was with my parents the whole time, which I wish I would have rather because she probably would have like I had a connection. Anyway. Um, no, no, no, it's fine.

Um what did I text roal Um? But anyway, just I was just gonna say, people down there are much more receptive to Asians on the apps, and it's maybe because there's a bunch of them around, because yeah, I think it's a growing up around It's a growing up around them thing. It's like, oh yeah, this is like these are most this is like billions of people in the world are Asian. I will I will say, I think uh re attraction to Asian men or not attraction

to Asian men. The guys who are attracted to Asian men, it's either a reaction to not growing up or not experiencing them as a young person and sort of the exoticism of us, or it's a chill sort of oh yeah, I grew up around Asian people. You're just regular human beings. Been as a child exactly. Um I said, OMG, was not expecting this, but New Zealand is a Rice queen slash Asian paradise for both, like both sides benefit. And then Jewel responded, OMG, Australia sort of wise, but maybe

m Z is better. Um, well, you know NZ New Zealand goddess, you know, famously dated that Asian Lord Lord, who I've been following around the country, is a great concert. I suggest, Oh, yeah, you haven't. You've been to multiple Lord. I have been to two Lord concerts this in the last three months. How is she live? And she's fantastic life.

She is still a teenager and that comes out in that she likes to over explain the song sometimes, so she's like, this is melodrama, this is what it means to me, and that's all you're gonna get, and and it's like, okay, we get it. But she does cool things like I was so concerned about her in Seattle. Her shoes were untied on stage and I was like

screaming at her. I was very close to the stage and I was like, your shoes are untied, and she looked down notice that her shoes were in tight took them off and gave them to a teen girl in the audience. You could have saved her life. That girl doesn't have shoes on. No it shoes. This is melodrama. Your accents are First of all, I just want to say I wanted to tweet this out, but I just didn't feel like it would bring exclusive content. Um. Everyone.

You know how people just like default to an Australian accent as like a bit um I feel. And I just want to say, everyone's nailing it so accurate. Tweet that's a funny tweet it. Um, you know what, Maybe maybe I will, but I just wanted to workshop it here. Um. But yeah, I mean, I just I can't believe you didn't indulge because I love I love going to the West Coast. I love going to the Pacific Northwest. I I famously told you Seattle is also a great place.

Seattle changed the way I looked at my own body. Okay, wait, okay, explain this just just because people were because I had sex with a literal gymnast and I said, you know what, this is what I deserve, and it's ruined me for men in New York because now I I I would say about six of the men I've had sex within over my lifetime I have not been attracted to, and I've just had sex with because I felt like it's what I deserve in New York specific just no in

in in my intention, just since I started having sex. And now I say no, and I say, I'm going to hold out for a fucking Russian gymnast who might be trying to pump me for information about the states.

There you go, But but it was it fun. Yes, It's ultimately a scarcity problem though, because like had all these had all these messages over there, and then yesterday, literally yesterday, as I fly back in, open up my appsolete, my traps on overnight, wake up the next morning, nothing and I'm like, oh, yeah, this is what I'm used to and it's stupid anyway. Um, but you know, doesn't feel great to feel hot though, because that's what it is.

I had this whole bitgoing where I was like, I'm hot, bowing down here, and it actually was because I was the apps affect your your self esteem and I should get off them, you know. I I bought Tinder goals, so did I talk about this? And and the the draw is that you get to see who's already swiped right on you, And I thought, wow, what I want

to see that? I want to see who I've been neglecting, And it is three men that I am deeply not attracted by the way we we we talked about this before I left, because I think we both activated this, and you were like, not one. You were like you asked me like, do you have one conventionally attractive person

in your likes already? And I was like nope. But then down there everybody gorgeous, gorgeous scords everybody, and I was like, god, it is such a strange Like the then diagram of men that I'm attracted to and who are also attracted to me is a very slim margin in this city. But it's a regional thing. And that's yeah. I honestly I left Seattle being like I should live

here just for the sake of fucking these gymnasts. I will say that I left Sydney being like, I should just come back on my own and have like a sexual vacation. Yeah, walk about, Yeah, sexual sexual walk about. That's the title, sexual love about. Write it down, HPJ. The three of us are all very single right now. It's officially cuffing season. So guess what, so lonely So that's what that was. That's what I realized when I flew back in yesterday. I was talking about that before.

I was watching Edge of seventeen on the plane, which some people were saying was like the new means I like it. I don't. I heard you say on the last part that it was uh maybe, and I don't think so. Yeah, but we would have been hearing more about it if Asian romantic lead. Yes, it was very nice and very hot, and also a good depiction I think of just being a teenager. They're all terrible and unlikeable, and that's very right. And Haley turned out a great performance.

I prefer Haley as an actor. I wish she would just stick to stay in her lane lane. I don't. I don't it's your people making her do it. I don't need her singing heartbeat song or whatever. I don't think it's her people. I think she genuinely like after she hung out with Taylor Swift one night, was like, oh, I want to go to the v m as every year. All of her songs are like everybody's doing blow, but I'm I've got my headphones on and I love to myself.

She sounds like the worst person. I wish she would just say I wish she would admit that that is about masturbation. She doesn't use it. She actually is refused to admit that it's about masturbation, and it's so clearly about masturbation, and I wish she would just own that. See as okay, And just getting back to Lord. As precocious and like Dakoda Fanning esque as she is, she's so smart. She's so smart and like on talk shows, like she was able to go on the Tonight Show

and make that an engaging interview with Jim Me. She's very articulate. She's very articulate, so charming, so funny, and like that was that was right when like it was it came out that she had a secret onion ring Instagram account where she reviews onion rings, and she was just so like perfectly like embarrassed by it, but also like, but no, I love onion rings, Like oh wait, you're like a cool person. I don't know. I love Lord too.

And the new album I think there was but but people were really listening to it for like a week and then they moved on to like fucking I don't know. I'm listening to album right now and I'm I'm whopping it no because listen, she has a song on it called Daddy Issues and I got all these daddy issues and that's a good joke. Please turn off the spot and we can't keep board. I'm going crazy when I'm with you. That's classic classic Demi, and that interval is

classic Demmi. But look such a good hook on that song, but it's such an uncomfortable lyric. It is uncomfortable. And actually, the other day my Spotify was acting up and for some reason the song was gone from the from the from the SANCD album and I was like, oh my god, someone had a problem with it and she had to take it off the album. But then it was just my Spotify being a little fun. But you know what,

I think this is a great opportunity. UM. A couple episodes ago, Mike Kelton introduced us to Maggie Rogers uh, and then we've been cooked on her. I am hooked on her because of that podcast. She's really so and I think she listened to either the full episode or a snippet of it where we talked about her where Calton talked about her. Um, but she's fantastic, Go check her out. She tweeted us that she had a giggle

fit listening to us. Maggie, we love you. And here's some other divas that we I want to shout out really quickly. Julia Michaels. She has a little ep out called Nervous System. She was VMAs and she had right where they did the whole like new artist, and they cut them off. They cut her off. And you know who, angrily tweeted who Adam Levine And I love I stand famously for Adam. I love Adam. Are you watching the

voices here? Of course? And I think Jennifer is such a fantastic Jennifer is She's come alive on the voice in a way that we've never never seen her, never seen the personality like this. I love it, and I love her music. I love j hud her last album and I just rediscovered it at the airport months ago and it was so good. It's still so good. There's a lot of good Jennifer Hudson music, such good gems. Um. But Julia Michaels, guys, check her out. She's got a

song called make It Up to You. It's so good. And then, um, you know, just just Diva's propping up, popping up everywhere, Diva's. I love Diva's. Look guys, Jet Locks, so Jet you said you wanted to shout out some divas and said, and then because I love you said divas, divas, I love divas. Where can we cut that out? No? No, something Shakespeare, I love us. That's a real moment for you. I this is such a double standard, like I say

something whatever, what what are you about to say? I say something that is just, you know, not a graceful sequence of words. And I just you know, for my own, for my own as compared to who as compared to you and you that's because I land you have to such a classic dynamic, I said, I I texted you early in your podcasting career, as I said, you two are the Mary and Martha. And then I thought it was like a biblical record. I don't know, no. First I thought it was like a like a radio, like

a talk radio. I thought it was Mary Taller Moore and some lady named Martha. It's from the fucking Bible. Can you talk to us because you are of course a Bible Mary and Martha, this this famous story of Jesus was going to go to Mary and Martha's house. And Martha, she's just the lady, she's just abroad and um and I will get the mixed up because it has been a while, but I believe Mary is like, I'm just gonna chill and I'm going to talk to him. To Jesus, this is fun. And Martha's like, no, we

gotta get the house ready, we gotta like prepare. This is a celebrity. This is a person I want to make. I want to make this an event. I don't want this to just be us sitting around and talking out of our assholes. No, this is a different Mary there. And not even to Mary the mother. No, no, no, no, this is completely unrelated. Third and so and and then Jesus is like, Martha, actually, marry your girl. Mary had it right, you should, just you should. I don't care.

I don't care about the place settings. I want to talk to you. Wow. So I was right. Well, and that's where the the the comparison goes awry, I think, but I think I don't think so. I think it's good because Bbe tells me, so, oh no. In the end, um, okay, so, and I misquoted Joel later on by saying that Joel called Matt the bull in the China shop, and I was the shop keep, which is again I think a fair because I think Matt, just like Greeks, we are a song of ice and fire, and Joel will have

to decide, and I'm going to be very fair. I don't know if that. But see, I don't know if that is possible anymore, because you, because you've sabbathe self, sabotaged your own team, are your decisions now. If he's going to be unbiased, it's gonna be because of things that you didn't think prior to the show, which is on November seven, the day after my birthday. I don't care about that, and neither does anyone. Let's just say that, um,

nine year older, okay. So, I don't think anything prior to the show should be take it into account in the judging. That's all. I don't think. I won't be. Don't worry it won't be. But it seems like it seems like, don't worry about it. Waters don't worry about it. It won't be, you know. I just can't imagine being you don't bring shit into my room if you don't want me to put it on my bed. Thank you. That was very rodgy and very ragy. And don't bring sh it into my room if you don't think I'm

going to put it on my bed. Just these senseless aphorisms. But can you can you refute it? Can you? Okay, okay, give me give me a second, Give me a second. This is a podcast. Do you think people want to hear dead air while if you think if you don't want me to bring shit into your room, no, you better house trained me because I am a dog. What that makes sense? No, it does. I'm I'm so talking

about nonsense. I don't know. Well, I'm gonna say, well, I'm gonna say to say all I'm gonna say November seven, at eight thirty on the stage of Villain, I will be thrashing in the waters. But how much how involved are you in these? Aren't I judging Pat Reagan and Chris Shackle Yes? Absolutely, I think that we're just going to be truly merely figureheads for our team. Perhaps there will be and I don't think so, Honey, up top between us to find out who's team will go first

or second. I would love some behind the scenes coaching, you know, if what if you could do the production values up it a little bit, maybe I will be working with my girls. I will be working with my girls, and I will be working with my um mix of genders, not even just two. So um, I wow, that seems like, well, I don't know, you just like really gendered it, and so you sort of brought that to you, sort of

drew first blood. Everyone is my girls. Okay, Well I just want to say that how Actually, now I think I'm gonna be pre I'm gonna come in this anti Matt instead of antill. I mean to be fair. I like I said, nothing should be taken into account before

the show. But this is just sure and this is just indicative of Matt's um the tenor of the conversation that Matt sets, And so I just want people to be very aware of that I'm playing by the rules here, that I'm bringing in a team UM that is very very very um polished in tame and will not resort to low kicks. You go high, I go high, and um I do. This is what I meant to talk about earlier the three of us are all very lonely.

The crispness in the air makes me want companionship. So I want us to make a pact on the record if nobody gets a boyfriend, if we all don't get boyfriend, there you go, and it's self fulfilling, but it still works. Are you pointing to me, I'm not pointing. I'm pointing at the Royal Air, the Royal We Okay, so the Royal Air now. Um, I know I'll never love again. I know I'm never love this away again. So fucky, Joe, you gotta turn off the royalties on this episode. Turn

off this Julia Michael's track. Okay, I think it's time. I think it's time for I don't think so, honey, And this is our first two last time. I feel like this is my first true I don't think because last time you made me come for a fucking city. We did locations, and you know, because famously you were going to move to l A. That was when that

was happening. Oh my god. We had just the most basic conversation about the differences between l A and I had to come for St. Louis, And since then, I have traveled the nation and I would say what I would say, Phoenix is maybe the worst place. Okay, cool, well, Um, A lot of friends who went to a s U who are not friends but high school classmates who went the trash, the trash. This is gonna be bowen yangs.

I don't think so. Because he said he had one well, no that was that was during the break when these girls were being loud across the hall. Um. But I want to make okay, um, alright, alright, yeah, okay, Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey. In this time starts, I don't think so, honey. British Commonwealth countries where you drive on the left side of the fucking road and the right side of the fucking car, bitch, do not turn my world, not upside down but inverted, inverted. I don't

think so, honey. We I almost got into many car crashes. I didn't do any of the driving. That was all my brother in law. God, bless you, Brian, thank you so much. I should say, um, I don't and I bless you. I don't know he's Jewish. I'm not Jewish, but I'm a mention. Um, I'm a boy mention. And my sister's Jewish now and I feel I know some of the culture but not all of it. So please forgive me as this is a learning curve for me.

I just want to turn this I don't think so honey around and just really talk about, um my spiritual journey, um, and how I want to believe in God but I don't know how to go about that. And UM, I'm really glad and grateful that Australia was able and the and the driving on the side of the road sort of led me to this place. Spiritually. I for religion. Um,

if it's a cult, fine, that's a bonus. It's more, it's more organized, it's more struct what happened, I'm jet lued, I swear to God and English is not my first language. Need I remind you? So? Um, you know that was crazy fast and furious. So I'm coming off less than twenty I will say, as a fellow traveler who's come back from US Jelia, it is the worst jet like you can I felt insane for a week. I get ready buckle up, no damn it. And so I'm our listeners.

Oh and you know what, you know, it was so nice and this isn't me just like tuting the podcast torn or anything, but went to New Zealand and fucking like a bunch of people came in with recommendations of where to go. We have a lot of Kiwi listeners. Hello everybody. Um, we have some Austy listeners tooose some great people just giving me recommendations. International turn up, international smile Katy Perry and um, you know what, uh shout out to um Anthony in Brisbane, my my birth city.

He gave me so many great recommendations. He told me to go to the Lone Pine Koala, SAYINGC. Sherary, where Beyonce rolls every time she's in Australia, where all the drag queens from drag Race go when they're in Australia, to hold the koalas. And it was such a life changing experience. Koalas and my new favorite animal. And um, I do think so hony koalas and kangaroos. Oh I don't think so hony kangaroos, but that's for another one.

That's for another episode. Kangaroos they're dirty, they're the deer of us, the deer of austra They're just so common. People don't give a shit about the kangaroos and just go up and shoot them because you know why they're they're overpopulated. And then if you don't think I like

three vaginas too, something like that. But if you don't care this our tour guy was saying, if you don't, don't they got like three vaginas to turn off the Spotify Joe Um, our tour guy was telling us if if if they don't population control the kangaroos and straight up shooting the face squirrels, like, the populations will fucking disrupt the food chain and then they'll go extick. It actually makes them more extinct to let their populations go

and check. So they have to control the populations. Um and um. Those are these are solid tongue clicks. Okay, all right, Matt, it's your turn. This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey. Hopefully his will be more cohesive than mine. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Koala bears, you know, bit just trying to take my place. I see you in the arms of my man. Get the funk out of here, Willa bears. You I think you're so cute, little bitch. You can't

funk with Bowen because let me tell you something. I saw the look at his eyes and the glow in his face, and I've seen that look before. It was the first time he looked at me. He saw me at the Sketch comedy show in college and I was his Koala then. And all you stupid bears, you little bears, Marsupial ass bitch, get out of here. Marsupial is a made up genus. Let me tell you something, Koala bears, you're so good. Why don't you live in another continent?

You can't make it across the ocean. Guess what, bitch, you are low in the food chain. If I ever see you, I'll kill you. I don't care that you live. I'm a human being and I stand atop the chain and I spit and everyone below me and dare you? This is is the one thing that's made me happy. I love you, and you only belong to me, and I'm your only friends. You don't have Koala friends. That's that. So they don't know enough to love you back. I didn't they let me tell you something? Animal? You were

holding that Koala. I didn't grow up with a favorite an. You're back here now, and this is your reality me. There's no koalas you have me and I went, and now you know where you are actually crying so emotional. They don't exist really to you. They're not part of your world. I am no, I'm your favorite animal, my jailer. This is like I feel like I'm watching something deeply upsetting transpire. This is the power as time starts now, I don't think so honey, Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers.

I don't think so honey, for this past several weeks what had happened to I don't think so honey being about the culture bitch. I don't think so honey, you're coming in here with I don't think so honey, is about ripped jeans and some fucking bigot on the train. I don't think, so honey, how is that about culture? Come in here and play by your own goddamn rules. I don't think so honey, you coming in here and just talking about any old thing in your day that

bothers you. You created this form, you created the rules, you said something in the culture. I don't think so honey, you just coming in here and using your platform to complain about your days these people come to this podcast to hear about culture. They want to hear and I don't think so, honey, about song, about dance, about acting,

about television, about movies. I don't think so honey. You're talking about eggs salad, about Koala's, about driving on the wrong side of the road or whatever ship you just spewed out in your I don't think so honey. I don't think so honey, the institution of I don't think so.

Dragged down by you two more than enough, I want to let you know you have not just insulted us, insulted Joe Firestone for it is she discussed egg I know, and actually we had a great text conversation because I have eaten an egg salad sandwich in a bus bathroom because I was so ashamed to eat at that point. How dare you come from up? How dare you ever talking about? Jeez? Every time I hear your goddamn stinky asses, I have a washed ass bitch. A boat couldn't dread

you from the bottom of the fucking Hudson. Is she is? She? Oh, she's awake now? Talking about religion before not even a complaint, really just a request that was guy, and I am being so real and raw with our listeners, and you have seen me be so vulnerable before, and I just I just want to say that. Um, I wish my two people sitting next to me could let their guards down, and like that, I let my guard down. On a regular basis. I tell everyone the most plain truths about myself.

You know what, I will say this and this is this is true. T the three of us are very emotionally available. And um, we're like gaping wounds with legs were just avoids and just gashes, gashes with no connective tissue between the fleshy walls of our fucking yeah of our Okay, now I'm not I'm getting back. You got her back for we are just just just You're not just. I can see your sugar blood, sugar drop, You're so tired. All right, maybe we gotta go, but okay, but listen,

I don't want I don't want to end. Let's end on what I came here to do, which is please watch my Comedy Central special. You can check it out in the app. Now. You can pre order my album, myth Whole Minority No. November three and on November four. Bitch guess where you can come and see me and Bowen Yang If you live in Philly, bitch, you can come to the Good Good Comedy Theater and Matt you

can come. What are you guys doing there? I'm doing I'm headlining Good Good and I asked Bowen to accompany me. And guess what, bitch, it is Bowen's birthday. So I got a separate hotel rooms. Just maybe I'll buy a prostitute. Maybe I won't. I don't know. You should get a prostitute. Give me a prostitute. Um, I will say Philly. Um, if we're gonna talk about like regional grinder responsiveness, um, was was like, not that bad. I'm excited to go to Philly. You guys made it sound really fun. Yeah.

I love that their gaborhood is called the gaborhood, the gaborhood or literally not even a portmanteau, it's called gay neighborhood, right h P J Yeah, okay j um. So yeah, do you live in Philly, tell us meet us out for Boonen's birthday, Meet us out for Bone's birthday, and you know what this head out to Philly and maybe you too can hook up with the producer of America's got talent like Matt and and you know what, it was very fun. I had to hold up bet to myself.

Oh no, because so it was me, Matt, Sam Taggart, and Philip Marco who shared her room, and both Matt and Philip paired off with their own locals, and so Sam and I had our bets to ourselves and we just stayed up the whole night and talked like we were in the fifth grade at a sleepover. It was really cute me and Sam. That was a nice bonding moment for me and Sam. Um, maybe I will cancel the second room. This sounds fun. Yeah, I can just

come over because I probably share across the flute. No, I think, Philly, We're gonna make this happen for both Bowen and I. But Bowen takes priority because it's his birthday weekend, but also Joel's headlining a good good and so you know, just if if you're going to be a starfucker, just do it, do it. Do it with Joel. You know it's he's He's you could do worst, You could do worst. Man, I really do think you should come. I don't think I can get you on the show.

But I would you should just go. I think we need Yeah, I think we need Ei. There, Matt, we'll talk about this, we'll think about we'll talk about this. Off Mike, I will have every man in Philly and leave you both with nothing. And also no, oh no it um sexual walk about and Philly. I think we make that competitive and bring in a third party judge. Okay, fourth party judge. Um. Speaking of judges, Joel will judge Culture on November seven. UM. Check out his album, check

out his half hour, check him out very soon. We won't wait for me, root for Jeel. We won't wait very long for another cool thing to happen to Joel. Um, I'm sure of it. And meanwhile, he's just a little, a little whimpering thing over there. What are you? What are you begging for? I just route for me, We route for you, we do. I don't feel we are rooting for you. Off. This is a full I think we should just say good bye. Oh wait, hold on, let's just hear that track one more time. Can we

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