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“Sense Memory/Stanislavsky/Circle In The Square” (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Feb 02, 20221 hr 11 min
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Matt and Bowen convene to discuss the concept of a Night of a Thousand J. Lo’s, deep dive on Lady Gaga’s actor-forward Oscar campaign, perform Lisa Barlow’s hit mic monologue and debut Provincetown’s new theme song. Also, Viva Las Culturistas and ALSO Viva Las Vegas, as Matt prepares to see Katy Perry in the City of Sin for his birthday and Bowen reveals that not only that he has come around on “Daisies” but also exchanged pleasantries with Mrs. Orlando Bloom herself. All this, and the following questions: do we actually want Carrie and Steve to fuck? Would you do Dancing with the Stars? What would you do if you heard your best friend saying that hated you because you’re a “garbage whore”? Disclaimer: “The Woman In The Window...” with Kristen Bell is spoiled in this episode so skip ahead a few minutes from where that discussion begins.

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Look man, oh, I see you. Why and look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, ding dong, And I guess we have already a discussion topic to start the episode off. Let's get into it. So we were just recording some ads and we were actually are recording an ad for the city of Provincetown, the tourist destination Provincetown.

I've never been more honored in my life. And can you believe actually, like you know, they reached out, they wanted us to do this, and they're they're actually gonna have us in Provincetown at some point this summer, and we're so excited about that. I believe that neither of us have been Isn't that wild? And I also feel that the way it's described to me, sort of a gay gay main Street USA, really sounds right up my alley. Gay Disney gay Mager Kingdom, gay Disneyland. Honey, you can

bite the walls. They say, they'll think candy, So I don't know about that. Girl, probably would be filthy. You can read you need to read John waters essay about Provincetown. He's a great essay in Role Models about Provincetown and his love for that city. I need to read that essay, and I think you and I will be the new John Waters is on the scene across in my fingers, all right, just kidding. So would never we could never be.

We could never replace you, John, John, We could never replace your honey, Honey number six, John Water and John Waters, Honey, we could never replace you. You're doing doing amazing sweet um Okay, So what I guess I wanted to say was we were recording ads for the city of Provincetown and you know, lost cultures Matt and Boonen however you want to it's mostly Matt. Matt comes up with jingles for some of the ads. I'll sometimes come up with like a jingle for the thing and that word going

because I think it helps. I think it actually gets earworm, you know what I mean, if you need help. And then of course the new one that I really like is Zipprocruda the Smartest way too, So I think that one's beautiful. And then we just came up with a new one. No you did. Don't give me any credit. We are one. We are one comedic thing. But I just think that this is your talent. I have respect for that. Do you want the royalties or not. No,

I don't. I think it's yours. I have whatever came up with this, and Matt came up with a song, go here's my jingle for Province Town. Province Town, We're gonna see you there. And I think what you have to remember to do when you sing it like you will there? It's not we're gonna see you there or there. No, it's Province Town. We're gonna see there and opening up like you're opening up your arms to the queer community. Oh my god, that is just as in the details.

But and it's actually really cultural. Number forty four Bowen. Now, I would be thrilled to go. I'm sure people will really, really really be eager to share their tips. I would happily take them. I wonder how long we stay there, because look, we're both busy girls, and we both kind of have our spiritual connection, especially in this upcoming summer to One Fire Island. That's true. Do we have to sort of get on that, as they say, because how is this sort of going and going? I don't. I

don't anticipate being in a house this summer. Unfortunately. Well, I have I have a couple of friends who are who are looking into it for themselves, but they're they're going, Um, there are very pines party forward house, which I consider myself to necessarily be you know, your joke and boosters your um that that that his ilk and those are the people who really sort of gross feverish party boy, gross grotesque fever party party to him. That still him. Um,

we love that. I know he's laughing right now in this giggling even or he's or he's frowning doing those fucking idiots calling me gross well sucking them. But but do you but do you know what? You know what I'm saying. I feel like you and I have such a spiritual connection to the island in a way that basically every gay man in America does. But yeah, we gotta go back this year. This is our this is our this is our big Fire Island moment. It's our

big Fire Island momentum. So I think some way, somehow, you and I we'll do the double header this summer of Fire Island and Provincetown, which I think I'm long overdue for and I am so excited for that too, very very And I also feel like I got to get your back out to you. How to get me back out to Palm Springs, Girl, I gotta get this one back out to Palm Springs if it's the last thing I do. Okay, and Palm Springs were iconically experienced

my first and only earthquake. Yeah, we were were tropical tropical with it was with Metra and Sandy and the restaurant swayed everyone. It was really truly an earthquake. It was an earthquake. And we were very very high in marijuana and and there was an earthquake and I was eating my appetizer and it felt we were in the upholster booth seating. Yes, were The earthquake made me feel like Sandy Honig was next to me shaking her ass and just see. I was like, why is Sandy like

twerking in the booth? Turns out and it wasn't. It wasn't even that it was. It was a SI tectonic shift, That's what it was. That's what they call it. A size shift front and Earth for title of that. First of all, speaking of which, do you feel like there is any seismic te tonic shifts in your life? You're about to go and embark on something seismic. I'm about to go and bark around something. So I think I'm

I'm starting to work tomorrow, So that's exciting. But and I'm really excited that you're gonna be here for such a long time because Bowen's coming here to shoot a project and so we're gonna be in person. So guess what, the next maybe three four apps of Lost coote Rests are going to be in person epps because you know, the girls are gonna log them up, log them up, and who knows, we might have a guest or two if the logistics work themselves out. I think I'm gonna

be able to see you, girl. I feel like you're gonna be so busy on the weekends. Yes, the shooting life is tough. Well yeah, it's not gonna happen Monday through Friday at ball, okay, But the weekends it's going to be all about quality time. And actually, can I tell you there's actually a big weekend coming up that I get more and more disappointed that you're not coming. I for my birthday, readers, me and an army of game men are going to see Katie Perry play that.

Guess I can't wait for you. I am so excited. I am I'm beyond it is. Can I say something to you? You'll be very happy to hear this. I want to hear a lot, and there's not a lot to share. I just want to share with you that today I did put on the song Daisies by Katie Peart, and I did go This is an incredible song. It's one of the best songs that's come out. I agree, it's one of the It's one of America's great musical offerings. Do we need we might have to release a new

American songbook? We did that, remember the day before election Day? Is that oursode the Great American Song Yes, my God, we're There will be three hundred songs inducted into the Great American Songbook. It'll be and then the songs will include like audio will include like sounds. There's gonna be lots of covers. They're gonna be covers, but they're gonna

be like a sound bites. I'm saying, you know, like yes, like we know that Adele design was the top moment of culture, but you know the SoundBite, the wickedly talented Adele Desime might be in the American Song book. It might be. We can't say at this point. It's not up to us. Well, everyone knows every all the readers know that these things that we do, like the Top two hundred Moments and Culture, the awards nominations, none of it is up to us. You know what I mean.

You have to campaign, you have to campaign. But either I don't think it's the American song Book. Here's my pitch. Okay, pitch the Global song the Globe, Lost Cultureist, Global Sound, the Global Songbook, Lost Culture, Racist Presents presents the three hundred songs in the Global Song Book and the Great Global Songbook. That's it. Okay, that's it. Wow, this is going to be one of the most important moments in

podcast culture history. And I want to say something. Lots of people had a lot to say in the podcast received critical acclaim as a result of the Top two hundred Moments and Culture, and then you know, I think we earned some notices. I think people could say cultural Awards. If we aren't given our accolades and hardware for the our three episode, I'm actually gonna be really pissed. I want to win awards and this podcast. We have gone to war and to hell, to provide entertainment. Okay, it's

been COVID and we've still been podcasting. Who among us has name another legend? Give us awards? Now? I said, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of just a claim. Can I tell you, um what? My brief interaction with Katie was absolutely what if I said no, you can't tell me. If I was like, I don't want to know that, we'll be an imposter. First of all, she turned to me and adia good nights for dress rehearsal. She was like, go to bad bitch. That was so good.

Marco pulled out Idi about it having her back. She's not really a mark of all of these days, but just keep bugging her. I am gonna so air. We hug each other and I say I have to tell you something, and then and then she goes, no, no, she's being funny and she was like no, no, And I was like, no, no, no no, I have to tell you something that's it's good. Um, I said, my best friend in the whole world, shut up. You told her? Yes, you wanted me to telligence. Oh my god, I didn't

think you would what what? Wait? Okay, So I was like, my best friend in the whole world. He's turning thirty two, thirty one, I didn't I don't see your age. Wait wait I can start over. No, you guys have my age. Don't start over. I want everyone to know how old I am. Okay, a woman of age, a woman of age. I said, my best one in the world of turning thirty two. He's going to your Vegas show at the end of February. And he was the blue and he was the alien and not the end of the world.

And he and her immediately she was like, oh my god, you have to tell him. He was so funny. He was like she immediately remembered. She was like, oh my god, that's so special. And then that was it. I'm bringing an army of facuts to her show on my birthday. It is truly going to be so fun. And I'm trying not to watch the many clips because everyone knows every all the regional I'm a big old Katie cat. Do you do you know the set list is she is she singing? What is she singing? Thinking of you?

She's not, but what she's not doing thinking of you, which is because I think it's the fact that she's not doing Waking Up in Vegas is also like, but I think she is now I don't know. I think it's like it's it's I actually don't have correct information on whether or not she is or is not doing Waking Up in Vegas because I was when I the set list that I saw it wasn't on it, and then like, I'm upset, I haven't been able to stop

thinking about that. I'm literally looking up right now Katie perry play set list and that let's see if Waking Up in Vegas is on here? Because it is? It is? It is? It is it? You liked me and I believed for weeks that she wasn't singing Making Up in Vegas and her Vegas show. You know something was amiss with that from the very beginning, because why would she not do that? I enjoyed her performances on the show.

I like, and I'm excited to go see her be peak stupid Katie like singing with a piece of poop and the toilet and ship. I'm like, all about I might be in the stratosphere in terms of inebriative. Do you think she's gonna Do you think this is like her signaling the return to that Katie, like, I feel like there is an inflection point to be had here potentially where she moves forward in her career, kind of revisiting that. And I think, UM When I'm Gone is kind of a kind of feels like new and old

at the same time in a very good way. I think that the Smile album was kind of her being like silly clown, you know what I mean? Yeah, but you know something was something for me I thought was missing, right, Yeah, I would say that they're are five. I actually sent Bone and I were talking the other day and I was like, we're talking about Katie, and I was like, I think there's five really solid tracks on that album, which is more than Witness and not as much as Prism.

So it exists on that because the back half of Prism fucking slaps back half of Prism is great. I think Prism overalls love Prism Um Witness. Witness has some decent tracks. I mean, I like Bonapatite a lot. I love Bonapati Are you kidding me? I love Swish Wish. I love swish Wish too. And I actually found myself in the airport the other day like really sort of living my life to swish swish. It was. It was sort of surreal. Absolutely this Katy Perry is a surrealist artist.

Great Down Boots, it's actually real culture. Number here is Mcgreat Down Boots. Do you think that Katy Perry will have songs in the Great Norble song Book? I think she might have several that we can confirm. Can you predict that we can confirm that Katie will make an appearance on the list? Can I say that, um, the just too sorry just to go back to the weekend to get a bit with a D. I mean we have our we have our next category is something that

I pulled directly from Loss culture Lexicon. You you realize I ever felt familiar to me? Say more I'm I'm not. I'm not. I'm not saying anything shady. I'm just saying it felt familiar to me. You are being shady. No, I loved it. I loved it so much. I love when I feel like I'm being spoken to by you on the show. There have been times when I see you on Update and I feel like he's doing that for me. I'm not gonna, I'm not even gonna. I did a lot of that for the one last week

that for for sin Bau I did. There was a lot of I mean, that was like the last two updates. I'm just gonna say, little love, let us to the you know what people don't know is he is. When I had my nose surgery. That was the week you did Iceberg earlier in the day. You're like, I'm doing this one just to you nomination because he was doing it to me. I was doing it too, Matt, because I was like, because I really went into that update being like, no one is going to get this. You

knew I would get it. I was like, Matt is gonna like this, I don't know what anyone else. And now that no one would get this, I was like, I don't think people are gonna I don't know what people are gonna think about this. And then it was so I was just doing that to Mr Matt Roger. Mmm, let me tell you, sitting here on the couch convalescing and laughing but not too hard because my nose was so sore from the from the invasive traumatic surgery I had.

I'm so excited for this birthday trip. Oh yeah, no, I'm really I really wish you were coming. It's such a bummer. But it's it's gonna be so fun. We're like, we just booked like the hotel today and like, let's what is your vagus experiences? I have not been since I was in high school. Let me tell you. Every time I go, it's a thing. Something happens every time I go where I'm like, Okay, that shook me. Can

you give some context. I mean famously, when I went when I was on Oh My God Millionaire and had my like the start of my rivalry with Chris Harrison was this was that the last time you've been. No, I've been since, and it's just been like like when I want to go see Christiana, Yes, and you guys got wasted, surreal what got wasted? Went to PF Chang's after order too Hot and sour soups. Took those to

the head. And I'm telling you, like, if if Katie gives anything similar to what Christina gave, it's going to be a joyous event. But I will say Katie is incredible, and but she's gonna be doing more like I think of like a like a scripted show. Like it seems

there's a lot going on. Christina was doing a lot of talking to the fans like, which which actually allowed her to do a lot of My favorite tick of hers was she hy hying and the whole time, let me tell you something, she goes, I have to say, this is an amazing night, and I know that so many of you are queer, and I just want to know. I want you to tell you that I know that the love that I get from the queer community is

like nothing else. I thank you guys so much. And I was just like we were because it truly was only so funny, Dave and I were we were screaming. I think I cried. Actually, I was like because I was that, I was that one in the mosh pit being like, I love you, Christina, and she was like, I love you. See your baby, And I met every every word I said, of course you did. Oh my god. Wait, the only thing I've done, like the only thing I've done recently like that has been do you remember this?

We went to the season seven finale of RuPaul's Drag Race, not the finale, but the New York show where they know and Bianca del Rio was housing but then Chantela came out afterwards, Yes, yes, yes, And I was so drunk and you were with me there, right, but I was so drunk and Channgela was just like I just had the mic was in the middle of just like talking, I guess, and there was there was she was hosting.

There was a couple of lulls where at one point I just went, I shouted at the top of my loud was and then she she was like hallelu like every holly looo from the audience. She had to like give back with a hallelu He's a professional. She is the professional. You know. I'm I'm actually going to ask Jennifer Lewis when I meet her and Angela still living with her, because this isn't another thing. I think it's

a say, well, they're very good friends. Yeah, well, ch Angela nailed um snatch game as Jennifer those times you know we've we've sort of stumbled on the topic of drag race. What did you think of the Night of a Thousand j lows? I thought it was okay. You know, I watched from a very depleted place, and so maybe I'm not the best person. And what's gonna saying? It is a thing. And two years ago, when she was on My show, she says she did still live with her.

Oh so j ngel appears does still live with Jennifer Lewis. But I'm gonna get party on that. Um, yeah, you didn't. You didn't like the episode. I didn't like the episode overall? Is that bad? I feel like, I don't know, I just didn't. I wasn't. I wasn't really impressed. You want to know what I liked about it? Like, if we're gonna do an acting challenge, I'm happy they did a twist and it was the super cut because I did think it was funnier and I laughed. I did laugh

a lot during it. It It felt like maybe they, like, I don't know, they just went for the joke a little bit more, just kind of like work a little bit more clever this time. The only part that sucked about it for me was the run the Night of

a thousand j LO Runway. I feel like the drag queens that come on the show RuPaul's Drags, the television program RuPaul's Drag Grays do this Night of a thousand insert celebrity here runway from a place of fear ever since the Madonna thing, so they're all scared to pick like actually iconic miss looks and you end up seeing them and like, oh, two thousand two teen Choice Awards presenter, It's like, what the funk is this? It's like, we

didn't get any iconic j Lo. The only one that was bold enough to actually go for Carry was Carry, and then they put her in the bottom, which I thought was stupid. Carry was actually one of the only queen's making me laugh. She was one of the only

funny ones. I feel like she was like she was making a choice, like and all the takes when they were like, you know, Jasmine had to reset like it was, it was Carry being like um, like whatever, it's like, girl, you need to be quiet or whatever, like whatever her line was every single take, I was like, she's nailing But I thought she was annailing it. I don't know.

And then it was like that I didn't understand what they what their problem was on her performance, and then for her to be in the bottom when she was the only one who came out there looking like Jennifer Lopez herself, I was like, you know, they did an okay job. It's just and also maybe it's a thing of and tell me what you think about this. Not every celebrity like is you know, deserving of a Night of a thousand and you and you're saying you're not sure if Jla deserves that. I don't think Jlo was

necessarily known for her many iconic looks. I think that j Loo is known for being an incredible performer and for having great style and a strong aesthetic. But I don't know that she is like a Madonna or a brittany where you can do Night of a thousand of them and it's going to be like I feel the same.

Do you agree? Right? Because when I hear when I hear the words nine of a thousand, I think, you know, Stevie Nixt like like this is just a random assortment of like literal events that have happened around that, like like events that have been like nine of a thousands, even next nine of it had a thousand duties. Lies is you know, like you could do Gaga, you could do like yeah they did, they did they do Gaga? They did? Yeah, they did that pageant. That's right, that's right,

um Jlo. Yeah, It's interesting. There are like indelible looks, to be sure, and I'm like, why didn't anybody do like a hustler's look? Like bigfor Coat like or like no one came out and did like Jenny from the Last like big a little newsboy had like I don't know, like no one did Jlo. Jlo is like a very specified aesthetic, though enough enough so that I think that the runway category is justified. I just think you're right, Like these these girls have been scared since the Madonna

kimono incidence, the kimono gate, since kimono gate. So that's why I was like, for just for being bold enough to even come out in the VERSACEI why she being penalized for she should be celebrated like she was. She was the drag queen on the show that said I'm actually not going to be afraid of what everyone else brinks. And then the fact that she was in the actual

dress was inside Now. I was like I was. I watched it with James Scully, we were with Stone and we were like, wait, what did she just say that that's the actual dress? Like we were like so incredulous and I'm sorry not to be toxic. I did not get the praise for for de Aja. I didn't understand it at all. I was like, she wasn't I was like the line readings were bad. No, I didn't understand that at all. And Geria and Geria, I was like, yes, winner,

of course, I'm gonna go ahead and say Willow. I was a little bit like, wait, what's going on here? I loved Willow. She had daily meal about you is funny. I was just kind of like, maybe I was just again, I was like, not in a good headspace to watch an episode of drag Race. Maybe you weren't, I will say, like Willow pill when they were like why did you pick this up? And she was like, oh, because it's like perfect. No, she's she she is. She lives up

to like the hype of the moment. She is like someone who like is the like weirdo, you know, but like this does it well and like is gorgeous and like really is smart about her her presentation and her comedy and all that stuff. And she's my pick to win, even though I do think corn Bread is like the star and like corn Bread is bothering me. You think, oh,

is it because of the conflict. The conflict was silly and stupid, but it just feels I don't know, it just feels like so far it's quit has been dominated why Cornbread in a way, and I'm quite I'm concerned about Cornbread's run why presentations. Yeah, there's some there's an element of danger there that I'm like, uh, maybe this needs to And honestly, also another thing is the fact

that she's occupying this much narrative space. May mean they're like minding her of what she gives before she gets eliminated, you know what I mean, Because, like I said, the taking up a lot of space and the run my presentations are a little jarring, but her performance skills are certainly great. I don't know, it's it's it's actually really difficult for me to watch this season as long as Maddie what's his face? Maddie is still there? Okay, But I will say I did laugh when Maddie morphosis came

out in jail o inauguration. Look, I was like, like, that's not knowingly funny. Though I think it might be a little, I don't think I think it's Maddie as a straight dude being like, wow, what'll what? All the judges like j Lo's looked from the inaugurate like I don't know, I don't trust me. You know how I felt about Maddi Morris is being on the show. I don't think Maddie has that sense of irony, you know,

you really don't. You might be right. I definitely laughed at it as if it were funny and on purpose. But maybe you're right. What would you have chosen for a night of a thousand? Jo been big? Yeah, that's and also that like laid hair, Yeah, like like why not? What would you have done? I think I would have done. Oh I would have done Selena. I wouldn't. I would have done like like honestly, that was something that you could like a nod to, like j Lo and Selena,

you know what I mean? Maybe that purple Selena look the like iconic body suit that she wore when she formed in the stadium that or honestly maybe so on the album cover A k A. She has this insane yes about that that that dress is iconic and it's so hot and it's someone like Jasmine Kennedy could have absolutely killed that because she got the big old titties. But that look on the a k A album cover

is fucking amazing. But also I don't know, maybe like get creative and do one of her looks from like the cell or come out as like Maide in Manhattan, made in Manhattan, or um like the I think she has like an all denim look on one of her album covers. Yes, yeah, also like come out in a bikini with that tiny little top not and have like find a way to like like like a Candy New style, make a blow up doll of ben Affleck patting kissing your ass. Oh. Also the on the sixth album cover

is iconic, where she's in the little underwear. Yeah, you could, you could have done something really simple and streamline. It's still so impactful. Like if you come out and not look on the runway, everyone's going to be like, oh my god, amazing. You know, it's like, okay, here's um you know, here's de Sky something from getting Detting Images much Music Awards, Hit Radio, I was like, what is girls like? Yeah, I don't know. I there was no

fly Girl looks like there was nothing. And now the more I'm talking about it, the more actually more, that's what That's what I'm saying. I think I think the aesthetic is so it is so specific. Jalo that like I don't know and Jalo iconic. What would you do for a night of a thousand brutanes. Oh that's so hard. That's so hard. It is hard. Um, I guess I would do something from you know, this is no this is this is like my shitty answer, it's not my

real answer. But the thing that I'm thinking of this is me like maybe being like a little too scared of the obvious stuff. But I would do like because the music video for break the Ice from Blackout was not a music it was an anime. Yes, And I would just wear like she boars sheares just like blue, like fucking like high collar like leather pat or plastic latex shirt like the top and I'm like, and her hair is perfectly heat And I'm like, I would do that.

But that's not that's that's a terrible answer. What's yours? It's not a terrible answer. I mean I think I would do the flight attendant from Toxic Yeah that and you know no Twink from Q four swears that out Twink from Cuber that was gonna does that? Um, this is mine was like just re watched this video. Sometimes.

I was just gonna say, sometimes would be such a good idea, Like you could do the like whist cut like pants and the highest cut top, just like from like right under your nipples to right where you're like crotch wood show just bear with the beach ball and so fun. I love that video. The only the reason I watched it was because I took a peloton class and Cody Rigsby said that one of the dancers scratches their crotch very obviously, and he's like, go and watch

if you don't believe me. And I went and watched it and I couldn't find it, and I feel like I was I was kind of scammed by, scammed out of my time by Cody Riggsby. Are you saying right now that Cody Riggsby lied? He lied me and we're beefing. You're beefing with he was. He was a liar to people who paid to take his class, exactly saying this is there's there's nothing worse than that. No, And can

I tell you something? You can tell me anything. This is the sis gay mail feud that people have been waiting for Bow and Yang and Cody Rigsby, who will win? I don't know about. And he has a lot of people that love to ride alongside him. I'm one of them. And this is this is. This is the sort of the drama and attention of it as all is that I'm one of his acolytes. But he wasn't. But he wasn't Dancing with the Stars. He was exposed to a lot of people. He's got mom fans. Now he is

that he is the king? Did I tell you that? The other day? I had people going that I was that I got asked to be on Dancing with the Stars. Wait what. I woke up and I was feeling real frisky and I was like, I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna funk with Jared. So I texted Jared I said, I said, oh my god, why did you do that?

I just got the offer to that's so annoying. I did it to Joel too, and I had I had Joe going back and force for like four texts because one time Joel and I like we I forget how it came up, because he made a joke we were like stone or something, and he was like, what if they asked you to be on Dancing with the Stars, would you do it? I was like, I don't think I would. He's like, I think you would have to. I was like, no, I can tell you because I wouldn't be good at it, and I think it would

be I just wouldn't feel good. I was like, would you go on? And he said he said no, but maybe he's changed his mind. But it planted the seed enough that I was like feeling like like a jerk, and I was just like, I'm gonna get people going. So I literally sent to share it. I was like, oh my god, my team just called with offer for Dancing with the Stars. And he was like, oh my god,

what are you gonna do it. I was like I think so, yeah, I just have to and I go, I just have to ask them to write me out if I love that for you, and he goes what And I was like yeah, I think I'm gonna do the first four episodes and then I'll just have them write me out. And he's like, can I call you? And I was like no, no, no, I'm on the

team a good friend. He can I call you? I was like, I'm on the phone with my team right now, like and we're going to confirm it and like and and he was like, they think you should do and I was like, yeah, they said that. It's so many it's it's like a b C. It's like so many people are going to see It'll change my whole career, Like I'll just get ridden out of the show. And then he was like I can't believe this. I don't think you should do it. And I was like, Gared,

it's a joke. But I had him going for like hours. Episode four of this very podcast, Janie Stoler was the guest. We went on and on about how people who prank shit like this are bad. Okay, No, that's not it your innocent fun and you had to make it drama. Yeah, you're talking like a house like speaking of which can I don't think we fully Okay. So the Jenny, when the situation keeps getting weirder, we have not addressed it in full. We we talked about it briefly when John

Hayes was on last week. So this Michael guy who was on her live, I still have not watched the live. I've just read articles. This is what happened for everyone that doesn't know. So Jenny, when we all know, she fired off, popped off with those racist anti black Lives Matter posts and truly the late summer early fall of two thousand twenty so then she gets fired from the show and we still have to watch her for the

next few weeks. Blah blah blah. But she went on live and she got her like black friend to sit next to her, and basically the tone of what she said was, I just want to let everyone know that I take full accountability for what I did. However, I did have people doing my Facebook at the time and I don't remember posting it. But also there's no reason for her too. And she was like, but I just also want to tell you that I take full accountability because it is on my page, but also I don't

remember doing it and it wasn't me. But I take full accountability. But also you should know here's by the way, here's my black friend, and you should know that I am a Republican who's proud of that, and I do um believe everything that was posted. She basically, I take I don't take any responsibility for someone you know, She she went, I take full responsibility for someone else posting

things that fully aligned with my values. Yeah, what does she's truly of the stupid I I said to you and Joel and I this might be a little unfair. I knew from day one, that she was that kind of Asian and what do you what do you mean by that, like the kind of the person who was the Asian person who was like so obsessed with this kind of upward mobility to the extent that there politics

are so fucking horrid. And then then they post fucking q and on adjacent bullshit like like my mom's friends with these women, and I had and I had to like talk to my mom whatever. I don't have to get into my mom's fine, but like I did be like Mom, like you can't like read all this crazy shit on fucking like we chat and stuff that like your college friends post. They're basically like posting the same

ship that Jenny would post. I think, you know, you know, like I'm like these these there's this generation of I don't know of, like unfortunately, like Asian immigrants who like are just so fucking pilled by like the worst corners of the Internet. And I just think that I smelled that off of Jenny and and fucking Dewey for that matter, from day I mean that story, the sister wife story, like I think it is one of one of Jenny's relatives.

He was like, this is all made up. It was her niece, her niece who went on TikTok and was like, um, I have some information about one of the housewives, and she said, they've she's certainly fake storylines and she doesn't um she's not the person that she claims to be. And how do I know this well, because she's my aunt and she lived with my family for a while. My my parents would help her out all the time when she needed help. So basically she got yeah, and

she broke her husband's ribs. This is like not a well, but this person is unwell, you know, I just did. I I didn't like her from the beginning, and the good news is you know, and then I understand why everyone was like, Bravo did not quickly enough. Bravo did not quickly enough. But they did fire her within three days. I mean like, could it have been faster? Yes, I mean I don't know what kind of like what more UN need to see once that's true, because they're shooting

season three now and they had been shooting with her. Yeah, they've been shooting with her, So I don't know, we don't know, we don't have any visibility on like what that process is. But U what I love is this this poor fucking guy. I'm just creating this quote over time. I did have to educate her on the whole black lives matter and everything like that because I'm a gay

black man, so I live it every day. And then he said, anybody that's saying she paid me to be here or she pulled the friend card, I see all your comments like this is so sad to me, Like I just feel like it's it's it's really it is

really weird. And so she didn't this is this is a weird thing to me, and like not to like barometer on people's I always wonder why when things happen to people like this, why they don't get on Instagram live and say something like why they don't actually show their faces if they're actually contrive or if they actually didn't do something and get out there and be like, Hi, this is me telling you from myself, from me to

you that this did not happen. And then I realized when I watched that, I was like, oh, this is why they don't do it. It's too chaotic. It just she looked really bad. She wasn't elegant or eloquent about what she was saying or explaining, and it was Um. I was like, oh, this is why you need people to get for you, and because they're also inherently stupid in the first place, which is why a lot of them get into these messes, you know what I mean? Um,

I don't know. Jenny Like, sorry, I don't buy like this there is I wonder how the show continues just generally. I'm like, there's just so much that there's just so much news about it this year. I mean, should we read the Lisa Barlow quote? I think this is how it's going to continue. Did you see them? I don't. I don't know this Lisa Barlow quote. Oh Bowen. So basically she's on a hot mike and this this week's episode, by the way, everyone, we're recording this the she stuck

to half New York. Yeah, have you read this full thing? I have not read the whole the full thing? Can you? Can you send it to me and I can read it out loud and react to it in real time? Yeah? Wait, hold on, I have to find it. I'm about we're about to watch the episode of my sister. My sister is putting my her kids to bed, and then we're gonna watch is yeah, is yeang of your Okay? Here it is full quote of what Lisa Barlow said. I want to read it all right, this is you want

to read it? Can you can? You want to? You want to read it all together? All read it out loud. We're gonna read it together like we did. Um Nicole Kidman's Um, I am okay, here we go. Meredith can go funk herself. I'm done with her because I'm not a fucking whore and I don't cheat on my husband her and her dumb fucking family. That poses Why don't you own a house? Oh wait, you can't because your husband changes jobs every five minutes. Meredith is a piece

of fucking shit. I had your back, and I'm offended by that. Fuck you, that fucking piece of ship garbage whore. I fucking hate her. She's a whore. She fucked half in New York. She can go fuckox herself. That is so I mean she can You imagine if you heard of an audio clip of me saying that about you? No I I My my chest just tightened. I was just like, oh my god, have you ever heard your best friend talk about you like that? What's what does this mean for us, like are we no longer than

Meredith and Lisa? Like are we like not after this? No Lisa that I don't identify with this one. But I've told you, Enjoel, that I find myself identifying more and more with Lisa, not identifying, but sympathizing with her. I was happy to like Lisa this season. I did not care for her at all last season, and it's totally flipped for me with Meredith. Now he was loving Mayor Now I am like she is just as unwell,

if not more than john Shaw. The fucking Zion Trip, the Zion House, the way she was slurring and like melting down at every single turn, I was like, this woman needs to seek help. She really cracked and I was love it was Gary, But didn't you didn't you love that episode? I loved it by the end of it. It was like they were fucking raging. That was that was That was a beautiful moment and like that episode is actually truly, I mean, this whole season making no mistake,

and we have emphasized again and again is incredible. An incredible season of television period truly. Also Bowen, speaking of Bravo, you need to catch up on Project Runway because the next week is the finale and it's a really good season. Okay, I will, I will, And I know a lot of a lot of the publicists and the readers are like hitting up for their far for your opinions, and this is the power you hold. Well they wanted, I got, I gotta, I gotta um not not at the end.

I got a message on Twitter to the Lost Coach thing. It was like, Matt, can you talk about how passionate and emotional and straightforward and earnest the contestants are this year on Project Runway And I was like, yes, I can say that they really are. And I'm so proud of all four of them, all for the finalists, were very proud. I don't even know them and them so proud. Oh they're so good. I just like, I love Project Runway.

There's something I was watching it and you know, it ended and they chose the finalists, and there's something really emotional about it, like because they really put so much that with fashion and like imbuing clothing with your so vulnerable. It's it's very vulnerable and it's also it's it's true art.

And they're very passionate about it. They work hard, they sweat in those rooms to do it, and it's just I think, out of all the reality shows where there's it's it's um the competition is a craft, I think that Project Runway is just my favorite. I'm a little I hit a while with like baking stuff. The thing with food shows for me, and I love Top Chef and I god knows we love Podma. You just there's just you simply run I rub on the fact that

you can't taste it you and it was fashion. It's not that you like are like I can't wear that, It's that you're just I get to see, I get to appreciate the beauty. Yes, And I'm telling you that Housewives episode of Project Runway this year was my neighborite episode of television of all of the whole year. Amazing when when they came out on the runway, When Jael hit the runway looking like she had discovered good clothing for the first time in her life, I was like, see,

this is what it needs to be. Yeah. But anyway, if I if I ever heard you on a hot mic talking about me like that, we'd have to have a sit down. Dear, I there's it's open and chat. There's no there's no talking it over. It's we're done. That's what I guess. Going to be interesting about the finale is like you're just gonna watch two people who are like, yeah, that's what you think about me? Cool? Now I know where we stand after ten years. Oh my god, I can't. Oh my god, Matt, I cannot

imagine a world, won't I say anything. That's why Bowen. No matter what, we can't say yes to a reality show. They're going to pitch it to us. One of these networks is gonna want us to do a reality show. No, we can't say yes, not even how much fame we want. It doesn't matter how much fame we want. I don't know what you really mean by this. That's gonna happen. They're gonna come to us and they're gonna say we kind of it would be a show about us, And we can't say yes, not even no, not even how

much fame we want. And I know that I'm just talking to you now. I know all you want is to be so famous. Yeah, and I know, and reality TV is the ticket, babe, But we can't do that to our friendship because it will end on reality show and I will sit across me at our union and I will cry a single chunky tier and I'll say, I fucking told you because you wanted, because you wanted fame. Here we are, Oh my god. Before we were gonna keep the episode a little short. Today this week visiting

family and they have big Salt Lake City plans. Well also, and you you have to have a big day tomorrow. That's true. Do we want to do a quick check in on? And just like that, I mean sure, I can. I tell you this was the only episode that I really liked since the first couple and and that's that'sn't

that's a lie. I've enjoyed every single episode. It's just that it's just that I asked was it good at the end, and I'm sort of like, I don't know, But this episode I thought was genuinely good because I loved that all the women are finally meeting, and I love that there's mixing matching. And I also, I don't know what happened, but when Carrie and Steve we're in that scene together, all of a sudden, I found myself like, oh my god, I want Carrie and Steve to fun.

I think a lot of people are feeling that way. A lot of people are rooting and shipping Carrie and Steve. My third grade boner is hard for it. I forget if it was all I do on this show is like quote like an article someone else wrote, but someone did write a piece about how like we're still doing this in TV, Like an episode episode nine is Oh my god, you're that person. Oh it's so nice to meet you. Like no, like people like that's not how people meet these days anymore. You know, Like these women

like peripherally know about the you know. It's like I'm sure like Carrie knows about LT but you know, but you know what I mean. No, no no, no, no, no, I mean like L t W would know about nine and maybe I don't know. I don't know. New York City is pretty big. And that's the thing is like they've kept them so separate that it's like that the fact that they were just meeting now, I was like, Oh, wow,

they're just meeting now. It's a niner. I will say I really liked that all of the women seem to push forward in some way, Like I liked whatever chemistry was happening between Nicole Arey Parker and Karen Pittman in the scene where Naya meets lt W and LTW is like coming out of a limo and you know, she's like, let me just call my cater or that I'm on the phone within two seconds and get food down here, and then the trucks show up, and it was just

like juxtaposed with Karen's um husband basically telling her like, I'm sorry, it actually comes down to I want a child. In that period, what I realized is that actually these women have been fleshed out a little bit better than I thought, because they were compelling to me, Like that scene where they broke up Karen Pittman and her husband or Dr Nia Wils and her husband. I found myself emotionally affected by it. And I think it's because Karen

is an incredible is an incredible act. Yeah, truly it was. It was the end of last episode where Miranda and Steve break up, right, yes, they he asked he was asked for a divorced last episode, and so now this is the episode where you know it's the it's I guess this is the first time that he's talked to carry about it, and I don't know. There was something in that scene where I was just like I found myself.

I can't tell if it's me now cheering on the third grade mentality of how I feel some shows are written or actually wanted it to happen, but um it is. To be clear, I think it's a very third grader for them to be like, what if we put Steve, you know, like it's taking a barbie and putting it with a new barbie and being like now they're married, yeah, which like like it only used to happen like Gray's Anatomy, you know, like that's which was my mom's big note

about Gray's Anatomy back in the day. I remember we were watching it and she was like, I gotta say I hate this show. And I was like, what Kastrino why? She was like, this one's sleeping with that one, that was sleeping with this one. It's like, give me a break. They have to do work this Meanwhile, this one's sleeping with that one. Now, this one's with that one, now that one's gay. I was I was like, you know what, You're absolutely right, but I love that part. It's fun.

I feel like I can't figure out how much of that works in and just like that, and I don't you know, it's so just to let stay on the topic of Katrina for a second. It's so funny to hear parent movie reviews sometimes, like they saw Liquorice Pizza and they go, we didn't get it at all. I thought that could have been a good movie, but I didn't get it at all. Well, there are a lot of plots that they didn't they didn't do anything with. And then you know, you know, she's running a lot

in the movie. That's she's she was running a lot. And I kept thinking, what are they going to say why she's running? You know, like and I was just like, I think that, you know, Paul Thomas Anderson might not be for you guys. And they were like, maybe all right, but hey, I don't fully disagree with Katrina's review either. Katina needs to get on Letterbox. She needs to get on letter box. That would be an interest that would

certainly offer a vibe to us. All they watched the Kristen Bell Show, the Woman in the Window Across from the whatever, and they were like, they there's a blizzard in New York. Obviously as you know, and so they were like, yeah, we watched the whole thing because there was a blizzard three quarters of the way through there. I just just gave up. It got crazy, it got crazy.

I was like, well, what happened? And then they spoiled it for me because I was like, I, I that might not be on my list as much as I love, but they spoiled it for me. And I was like, all right, so spoil do you care. I wasn't planning on watching, but I was. It looked like interesting, and we love Kristen Bell, all right, And it's now been out for a while enough where I can say, so

spoiler alert, I'm gonna spoil this Kristin Bell thing. So I guess at the end, you find out that there's a murderer and it's like a nine year old, and so I guess Kristin Bell gets in like a vicious fight with a nine year old and she ends up killing the nine year old. And my parents go, and you know, we follow her on social media and she makes such a big deal about, you know, don't take pictures of the kids, you know, don't take pictures of the kids. I meanwhile, she's on this show she's killing

a kid. She kills a kid, Matt, Matt, she kills this kid. And meanwhile, it's like she's on her Instagram, like, you know, she's protecting her kids. And we always liked her for that, you know, we follow her on social media for that reason because we like her because she protects her kids. She's killing a kid. The kid was nine years old, And I go, your dad, it's a mixture. They're both um. But I go, you know, mom, like that girl who's playing the role as an actress, and

those are Kristen Bell and dak Shepherd's real children. Like it's different, like them being like, don't photograph our children and published photos of it is different than this paid professional actor who's in a film who like is a murderer in a movie and gets killed by Kristin Bell and and they were like, I don't she just you know, she makes to be dealing with the kids. They just like started back in with it again. I don't know, it was it was so apparent movie review. I love it,

I love it. Well, well what do you what do you say? I think it might be time for I don't think so, honey. I'm just so excited on this episode that we decided whatsode is going to because I'll tell you something like, I'm so excited after our conversation with Seohn. I was feeling the pressure. I was like, do something. I didn't feel any of it. I was like,

I know, whatever it is, it is will be amazing. Um. So in the lead up to that, Bowen is coming out to New York and we're gonna have some in person episodes and we're gonna talk to our producers about getting in the studio. Um some very fun ideas and that will be fucking funn as hell as we trudge trudge, trudge towards that's right, and we can't wait to see you there. All right, they are province down. We're gonna

see a beautiful Because I don't think so, honey. This is where we take one minute to rail against something in culture. Matt, do you have something I do? I do I do? This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Talking about your acting training, Um, I don't think people know what you're talking about. I think that there's about point zero five percent of the population that know what the words Dona is lost sky means and so just

saying that doesn't mean anything. Um, what is circle in the square? You asked? This is like target at that lady Gaga. Um, I just find it so funny that in her I don't know billions media cycle, she hasn't learned that you have to say different thirties of different interviews. She truly gives the same thing in every interview. It's an iconic thing about her that I love. However, this time I have to draw a line because what is she saying a lot? I studied at Circle in the Square,

I studied since memory, etcetera. I couldn't believe an interview that she just did with Salmahiak where she said that she wrote a letter to herself and in the letter she wrote, I don't need you anymore. I only need the parts of me that I can bring to say it with me, Patrizia. And you have to watch this video. Salma is amazing and I do think so, honey, Salma, I don't think so, honey. Lady got about talking about her acting training or anyone that does such a thing,

and that's one minute. Um, It's just so funny, Like how many times have we heard. I was wondering as this media cycle of House of Gucci approached what the thing was going to be. But there's so many things. There's so many I don't one thing it's not. I'm obsessed. I can't wait for her to get the Oscar nomination. I don't want it to end like I need it all the way through March. I need on the on the hunts. I need more like making up or not she I think she is bringing something new to each

interviews reveal now that there was a love scene. So it's so and the headlines that like there were gurgitated headlines that are coming out of that through amazing because I saw one like come up the other day that was, um, find out which scene and House of Google do you really? Scott had to call cut on that was two for being too intense. Gaga Selma like looking up or something.

It was the guy Okay, So the scene was I guess there was a scene in the script where Salma gets a call that the hit was successful, and I guess Salma had put cat food in her boots so

cats could follow her around. That was gonna be like the thing of the scene is that cats followed Salma around the garden or whatever, and so like there was a scene where like Salma gets the call, turns the Lady Gaga and just like nods and Lady Gaga like s Patrizia strutted over through the cats and like kisses Salma passionately on the mouth and like make out for a second. And that's like how their plot line ends. But which I really wish I had been in there.

I mean, this is the thing is it's like the house of what she needed to take itself less seriously and put that in. Yeah, yeah, I agree, But see when when God, when I hear that, I'm like, is that Gaga or is that Patrizia? Like done, She would say there was no difference at the point. Remember she wort a letter to herself saying she didn't need her anymore, so she was smissed. Wasn't on set. Patricia was on set to remember there, so we're gonna look back on this time and miss it so much. No, I I

love House of Gucci era. I'm obsessed with House. I can already rattle off somebody moments like her going I don't think she's a good person, you know, like that I don't condone her. I don't think she's a good person, but I do think there is something to say about women's rights. And then I mean her seeking evidence at the inauguration. Wanted to be a combat journalist. It's so

good and honestly I had here. It's delivering on so many cylinders, but definitely something that is jumping out to me is I studied sense memory, I studied standards Laski, I studied in the circle on the Square. I wanted to be an actor before I was a singer, and I just couldn't audition. I just was terrible at auditioning, and um so even in my music was my first role was you know, when I was in college, I got called back to play Maureen and Rerant and then

they found out that I was still in school. Like I was like, I've heard this story. And that's when you realize that she is like that. You know, she is an actress. She is like one of those actresses and like, I'm just gonna drag. I'm at a country group chat with a bunch of gays who are rooting against Lady Gaga's mountains actively. They were talking about, um, the thing where she said that the Jake Jillen Hall interview UM, which I watched a lot of it was

it was very funny, UM. But when she was like I love cartoons because there's such a danger and also a beauty or whatever, they said something and they're really dragging her for that, and I was like, I have to break it to people. Most actors are like that. Those are not cool. It's it's it's a it's a myth actors are uncool. So this group Chat wants her to like. The Group Chat is very and they know who they are. They're very and we might even have one of them on the show, and we will, we will,

we will to their face confront. They're very pronocol. And there's these pronocol gays that I feel are coming for Gaga. It's very similar to when the pro Laura during Gays came for j Lo. Because I think that they look at these they look at these singer actresses and they don't take them seriously, but I take them very seriously. I mean, I'm I'm down for God got to get the nomination. And I just was like, it's if you think actors are cool people, I actually have to break

it to you. Most of us are nerving and annoying and and a lot of them happen to be aesthetically pleasing. That's it, though, that is that is the cool co inciting thing is that they're annoying people who look good m h. And and that makes them very suited for

this work. Yeah. I was like, do you know how many times I have heard things like this at n y U where Lady Gaga did study musical theater, Like I remember being an n y U and people would have that Lady Gaga Jake Joe on Hall conversation all the time, of course, And I'm sorry to break it to these group chat gays, but like I mentioned, Nicole Kidman's just as you know, like is has the same Yeah, now whatever, I just Nicole unfortunately is like a textbook

like celebrity doing a skincare video for like Harper's Bazar or something, but not talking about the like the procedures she's had done, which is like it's fine, just like just share with us, like what you've had done. It's fine. I do love about the Housewives that now it's become a thing of like it used to be in the beginning, like no one would talk about it, and everyone's just like, I'll talk about it the most, which I know, I'm

obsessed with it. I think it's genuinely changed the conversation. Like when women like I've had this, done this, done this, done this done, and I'm doing maybe this, this this, I think it's actually it's more helpful because it takes away that layer of that facade of like that it is actually attainable. It was the only thing about me that I liked in Potomac. I was like, she's very like front about like her herself, but then she would

lie about everything else, which is like so confusing. You know, I'm a little surprised. One more thing and then I'll let you do around things. When I do you want

to leave, I'm a little surprised. And it makes me wonder if they didn't get along, because I was positive that part of Lady Gaga stick during this Commdia cycle would be Adam Driver is yeah, and he I learned so much from him every single day, and I wonder if something is not cool between them, because the way she was about Bradley made me feel like, oh my god, it's gonna be on another planet without'm Driver, and it never happened. Well, it was like the directing, right, it

was a whole narrative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Adam, I think Adam is just like kind of like, is so the opposite of what Goda does. That like he just didn't want she she just knows that he wouldn't play along. I don't think there's any beef, but they's gonna get along this fine. Watching the cast sitting next to her

in interviews is hilarious. It's just so good. Just like looking down at looking down, picking up a fixed spot on the ground and looking down and just sort of ever so slightly nodding and trying not to smile while she talks. Is just that's they're having to use sense memory for that, Like they're having to go back to a front, tranquil time on the beach. You know that. You know they're figuring out a marvel thing for Ganga,

are they. That's the buzz The buzzes like and I think I don't think this is con founded on anything, but uh, what's her face? I'm a frost I love that. Also, you know she's going to be the lead of the next Joker. That that was the buzz that hit she'll be like some Harld version of Harley Quinn and the Joaquin Phoenix Joker Um sequel sequel. Oh my god, which is insanity. I can't say she'll go to a safe place for she's gonna lose her mind. She's gonna crap.

They're gonna have to put her in our Arkham Asylum. She won't go anywhere else. Well, my favorite. That's perfect cause my favorite Onion headline, one of my favorite headlines ever is Lady Gaga kidnapped Police Commissioner Gordon, and he's my favorite person. This is my favorite person. I think I think she's might be my favorite person. She might be Taylor, might be number two. Now, oh it's always

been Gaga. Number one from Gaga is a cool Google beast. Wait, I just want to pull this up because I can't. I need, I need to read the whole thing. Okay, Lady Gaga kid nass Police Commissioner Gord, Gotham City super villain Lady Cop raised only abducted Commissioner James Gordon from a charity fundraiser Tuesday, leaving police at Babble to the citizens of Goddam bearing for their safety. Known for her

Atlantic costumes and geometric polygon hair. This is Rettos. The criminal mad woman made a daring escape from Arkham Asylum last week and has been taunting authorities by interrupting television

broadcasts ever since. Quote, if you ever want to see a Commissioner Gordon again, you'll do exactly as Lady said from her secret layer, adjusting her angular yellow tybek and band next dress as henchmen danced menacinally around the bounty caps while the kidnapping occurred at Stately Wayne Manner, home of Playboy jets that are Bruce Wayne, the eccentric billionaire, was not available for comment. It's so funny, supervillain, supervillain Lady Gota brazenly obducted is the one, the one she

really is? And you just don't you just I don't think so, honey, and her how dare you know? But you know it's a celebration, celebration. There's a celebration every dragon's reulal culture number seven. This is a celebration. And all right, well, don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The redesigned Pokemon in Pokemon Legends Archais so they did like a prequel game that's

like a brand new formulas open world. It's different. But Matt, some of these designs make no fucking sense and they look so deeply upsetting, like they're they're adding limbs to people. They're adding you know, they're making some of the Pokemon look depressed. Gudra from Jen five six looks depressed. Typholosition from Gen two looks like he's stoned, mama or you know, doing some drug. I don't like this. It's rude. I'm sorry, I'm I'm emotional. No it doesn't No, No, it's ruining

the aesthetic sort of universe of Pokemon. It was already a jumbled mess to begin with after you know Jen four, but now you out to really like it's too chaotic and it's a good game, but the designs of the visuals are bad. I'm so upset. And that's one minute I see in sense both Imagine if they made Sarazard look like they're they're adding they made like one of the Pokemon like a Palkia, like a horse with like

a huge Matt, these designs are insane. I know many readers and publicist who are playing this game right now. I can agree with me. These designs look fucking bad. It's the third graders are designing on now, I'm not even kidding you, that's the fourth graders. Yeah, let me tell you something. UM. It really hurts me to hear this because I usually think that you can also see the beauty in something new. I can, but now not let me say, let let me let me send you something. Yeah,

also I can. I can sort of guess. While first of all, I was talking about Pokemon last night, and while you're while you're sending me this, I want to blow your mind. Is something? And tell me if you knew this? The mystical birds Arctic you know, oh my dose and malt trace. Did you know it's you? No dose Trace, I've known for decades. I have not known until last night. And you're you're you're stocked Arctic Zapp

and molt trace. I thought that those were just the most beautiful names I had ever heard, But literally they're the words zap and the Spanish word for two and the people. Can we just give it up for the people. The localization team on that first generation, the first two generations, the people who hadn't name these fucking monsters, they did an amazing job. Charmander, Charmelion, tarizard poetry and you you get it. And also the word tastes and feels like

it should. Can we just talk for one second about I will I will say this for the rest of my life. I think one of the most elegant creatures of pop culture is piggi Oto. Piggi Oto number twenty two, I believe, and piggio like just so much promise and potential and just Digioto the teen version, but also taking flight, very much, taking charge, earning. That's sort of what we're gonna call uh Sasha fierce hairstyle. The hair is the bump, the sort of bump in the front, the giving Egyptian

I the bird was as gorgeous has Elizabeth Taylor? I agree. I just sent you some of these new designs. Looking now, so it's truly abominable. No, there's there's just it's there's one am I looking at here? Who are these people? This is Ya, This is Diaga and Palkia. They were the original mascots for Pokemon, Diamond and Pearl, and those designs were actually very elegant and chic, and now it's like added all of this ship, Like, look at the neck.

Look at the thing coming. It's like two goiters coming out of that neck. It's giving Genesis. No, it's not. It's well, first of all, this game does look like it was main twenty years ago. I'm sorry that's what I'm saying. But man, the game is getting these rave reviews,

and it should. The gameplay is like a huge revolution for the series, but the visuals are are behind because it's on switch and it's not it's not running it you know, uh full sort of bit bit sort of speed is like PS five and um xbox, but like it's so it's really upsetting to me because for me, the thing about Pokemon is like each of these are

a mascot. Each of these like it's like its own, like Hello Kitty, you know, Like that's why it blew up the way it did and when it came out in the nineties, because it was like, oh my god, it's Pikachu and it's Jigglie Puff and it's Cliffair and there's all these They're all these adorable or cool looking things, and now there they look like true monstrosities. Anyway, it's very concert. I'm really not liking what I'm seeing here,

and you shouldn't. Okay, That's that's why I don't think so, Honey. We said to be a short episode. It's still an hour and a half and change. Listen, and and I think that, like what everyone needs to know is we're coming back with some with some Firecracker with firecracker guests, and there's gonna be conflicts on the episodes, and there's gonna be fighting, and there's gonna be drama ultimately revolution resolution, but ultimately resolution, resolution. And the thing about Lost Coulture

is it's about conflict and resolution. And um, stay tuned for our big episode coming up soon, the Lost Culture Rest. This the Great Global Songbook. Doesn't that sound like? This is? This is like the Pokemon naming it. It sounds important. You don't agree. I know. I'm I'm biting my hands because I'm so excited. I'm like, I'm like, should we even give this away for free? This is a book

I don't know. I don't know. I'm designing the You Are the Great Global Songbook, The Great Gershwin found Dead Again, Honey. Paul McCartney and John Lennon more like go to Hell, Bitch, More like go to bed, Go to bed, bitch. You know I think this is gonna be a really important text. This is going to be one of the most important texts. Since I got that Pokemon picture from you, Yes, since I got that Lesta Barlow quote from you. This has been an amazing episode of Lost filt Test that has

explored so much we listen. We end every episode with a song I want to be you theorist, no whatever. On to catch this train them is my cause. I will travel across the land. Pokemon understand how how will that inside? I gotta catch them up. I know it's my destin me. You're my best friend. All we must have been Pokemon. That's so true. I can pull us through you teaching me, and I'll teach you. Fucking gotta catch m Pokemon provinced him they're gonna see you there. Fine,

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