"RuPaul's Drag Race: The Finale" (w/ Aaron Jackson and Josh Sharp)

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Oh my gosh, it's not a Wednesday. It's not and sometimes that happened on Fridays Thursdays. To how do you explain that they can't they can't. Um, guys, there's even more to list that we can't even we can't even rifle through at this point. But guys, please welcome Jo Sharp and Aaron Jackson. Come on? Can we tell everyone listening, um, what we're what we're wearing right now? So ordinarily we would come out here with some brim hat. But that's what honey, This is not an ordinary way. No, no, no,

the gays are out of play. We are naked from the waist up. Baby, we're shirtless here, we're all drinking water. Yes, can I quickly say about asked Wednesday? Um? I also teach improv and a student do you want that is one of your credits to What I want to say is what a student said. I asked him what shows they saw on They list the shows and one student was like, I saw Whole Wednesday died for a long time. I was like, well, we got to rename on Wednesday. I actually didn't get that. It was a play on

ASH Wednesday. Too later, wait, too much later, a fill in show on ASH Wednesday. So it was only named that as a joke, and then we kept doing it. I love it, asked Wednesday is elite? Get up there and do a little improv? Can I say that I would pay good money to see a show called just Hole with the word hole in the title. It's such a good I mean the band hole. My brain went to two spots when you said whole with soccer? What

the author of holes? Okay, no, you know already anyway over the mic, Over the mic te um, I was thinking, can't give it all to the podcast. Brandon Scott Jones is gonna have to ask me for some of it, and he's gonna have to get some in person tea on that one. Anyway, I thought of Kelly Clarkson has a song called Hole on her album My December and the chorus goes like this all inside of me many holes? Yeah, this is one. I mean she only thinks about one.

So that's where my middle school I mostly listened to contemporary Christian music, mostly alternative contemporary Christian. There's a band called Audio Journaline and they had a song called God Shaped Hole Ship that's horrible. Every heart has a God shaped hole. No, no, you would get yes hunt ever in the ble, So were you a big fan of So this actually is a good segue because we usually ask our guests what culture has shaped them, LIKEATI brought you forth into the world, Like when did you know

culture was for you? Um? And I would say josh like, you do have this upbringing where you do? You are seemed to be quite influenced or aware of a lot of Christian rock music. Eric has had a similar Christian bringing this. I wasn't as into the bands as Joshua was, Like josh and Corey Palmer can sort of toss off jars of Clay songs and I only knew some of that stuff because I was very unhiped. Sure, so I was a show tune kid, right, So is this song for you? Remember that song that was like how can

only imagine. I love that surrounded by your glory. When will my old me Jesus Josh. I know tons of hymns and all that stuff, and I will raise you up. I will raise you up on the last day. Yeah, and and even and even then like the modern like shout to the Lords, But those aren't like the hip No, that's praise music. Yeah, like I know praise music, and I know like him, but I don't know. Like that's all. That's talk. That's the stuff that stays in the church. Yeah,

this is the cool stuff. This is for the cheap grand Cherokee. Yes, did you have a grand Cherokee? I know, yeah, ninety six nine five green. Oh my god, that's funny. I have a question. Wasn't there there was a hip There was a hip hop group that was hip and Christian and what were they called Talk is maybe DC Talk was hip hop and they moved into a rap got it? I mean, I mean into a rock space. But they all started and they were hip hop. You know who was a Christian artist like looky Stacy Rico,

remember Stacy Rico? Oh my god, that was Because you guys will love this. DC Talks hit off their first album, which was their like actual like sort of like we're the Beastie Boys, but Christian, what's this song called I Don't Want It? And it would go like, ah, don't want it, I don't want it, want it, I don't want it, and want your sex phone now so they can repeat, repeat, and then I don't want it till we take them that I had that like early nineties

dip but like, no, sup Up. The Scoop is big is a big part of music at that time, of the big part of culture, but then they became a rock group. The second about being a Jesus freak? Should I talk about culture that shape me? Sure? Yeah, I don't know that is the culture that but that's a part of you. Certainly I would say, okay, So Josh, what were your because we're on Josh right now. Then we're going to move over to Aaron Love that the first time we have two guests, first time we have

two guests, I mean we're overwhelmed. Watched the clock watch, So Josh, like, what were things that? Like, you know, a little eleven twelve thirteen year old Josh Harp So was that because I feel like that was the like sheltered experience of that time. And then I feel like moving into high school when I was like felt like

I was opening up. It was like it was Dave Matthews band and fish and really yeah, that was when I was like, oh I get this, Like like I like the contemporary Christian stuff as a young person, but I think the like jam band scene in high schools when I was like, oh, I finally get who I am and I would like want to go see concerts and love it. Um, let's let's branch down to other media books, TV, movie Wow. And you think at that

age of that formative period for the show. Well, um, Aaron and I have talked about this right that you read a lot about with the Christie. Oh yeah, I still do full camp. You know, people that are into Agatha Christie are really into Agatha Christie. But also in Aaron shares this too, I also in that period before, like the contemporary Christian phase, all of those left behind books. Now I didn't read saw the movie the first terrified

those books. It's a rapture story. Harry Potter fans or were the parents like saying no, Harry, I was big Harry Potter. But in high school, like not as a child, not a Potter fan, but not because the parents said no, but because it just never happened, just never happened, Josh, not a fantasy, not Jonasy queen fantasy. Neither of my suity loves that ship. Like should you love Harry Potter? I love Harry Potter. Have all the scarves from Harry

Potter World. I've been there several times, and I make sure I bought each scarve so I can wear the kind of a four houses for for the houses. So it's that shape culture because here's a non fantasy person knowing that there are four houses in a fictional names are disgusted rule number thirteen of culture, Harry Potter. That's neber thirteen, number thirteen. Um, but yes, I feel that you can wear a different scarf for your different feelings. Sure, yeah, well, Aaron,

let's move on to you. What are some formative pieces of culture? Um as a as a youth, because you said like eleven and those shows like like Animaniacs was definitely likeuch for me into like books at that age. It was into the goose Bumps, the animorphs music. I think I was like full show tunes then and so like original Broadway cast recording of the music Man, you know,

like was very That's what I did. I didn't get into like real music quote unquote until high school and even then pretty late show tun kit um and then in high school I was like I would get into like Ben Harper, yeah, and the Beatles, like truly discovered the Beatles and was like songs I alod Been Harper, even though I was into all the jam bands. Yeah, Ben Harper is a little Ben Harper was less truly like Jammy than those other guys, and he was very like it was super sad songs, which I was like,

very intun it. So I'm gonna say it. You guys like like boy music, Oh definitely, Like I could sing a lot like classics, that's not boy music. I think I would have been into all that ship had I

known it was out there. I remember, like when I discovered like Rhapsody or whatever the music sharing things at that time, I listened to a lot of like I've realized there were show tunes or that, or that there was like more than like Hairspray of the musical that my parents took me to, and I was like, what is this? I think I didn't well, I didn't come out to like end of college, but I think I didn't even get into what are like normally gay culture

touchstones of culture until college. And the first I would say was York School was the thing I look back on, and that's the first like sort of gay thing, and that's a good one. And then I think my movie thing like cinema culture touchstone, and this is also very gay.

Is Betty Davis to me is like huge, like discovering Benny Davis and like going fault like get when Netflix was new, like renting all of her movies, Like I've seen she made like movies and I've seen like forty five of them, and there are some that should never be watched because they made make like nine movies a year back then they didn't even want to be in them. But I would just like slop her over anything she

was in. Have you heard about the new show Feud Ryan Murphy, Ryan Murphy's newest satanic thing that I can't wait to watch? Brilliant Susan Surrandon, Jessica Lang playing Joan Crawford on the best line from that feud, I didn't love to quote this, and I love this so um. Joan Crawford dies and Betty Davis was asked to remark on Joan Crawford's death, and she goes, they say, you should never speak ill of the dead. Only good. Joan

Crawford is dead. Good, brilliant, Yes, perfect. Aaron has a framed photo of Betty Davis is Life Magazine in Betty Davis Perfect. Everybody watch all about it? Just check it out. Great screenplay, great act classic Josh, do we do we get to a movie for you? Do you have one? Off the top of your head? We don't have. Now. I know you are influenced, as am I by those Charlie Kaufman movies. Yes, I would say that I don't

remember them. But Fraternal Sunshine not even that one. As much adaptation, I would tell you now that Seenectic in New York is like the great this movie to me, But adaptation and Malkovich more so, things that got into I love Malkovich and not knocking it but not knocking it but not You're not his rom com. Underrated, underrated, amazing, amazing actor is Katherine Keener, Oh my god, come forward a big she had like a big come forward like post Malkovich like into fourty year old virgin like she

was she was in a lot of movies. But yes, I agree, she's completely you know, a rule number ninety of culture, Kakeer is underrated. Oh that's it? Wow, all right, Well she is a rule, she's a rule rule of culture. Um. You know, famously, I've never seen like almost any old movies. In fact, I've never seen the sound of music. And I get a lot of ship for that. I haven't seen a lot of old movies. I've seen this on of music. But I'm with you, I haven't seen a lot of ton of like movies. I mean, I don't

see a ton of movies. Correct, I would say, I find I read so many more books than movies. Yes they're long, yeah, movies and TVs, but so are books. But I think I can chunk books. You know, with movies that you prescribed time period in length for you to sit there and consume it. It's like I know where I'll be emotionally in an hour. And that's why, famously, I have not watched a lot of TV shows. Famously, even even despite the fact that TV shows are famously

shorter than right. But Aaron and I have said this not in the culture we live in now, because it's not like, oh, you've seen one episode of Breaking Bad. It's like that's not enough to these people. So again, it is a thing where, um, you know, if I'm to tell you to watch a movie or read a book, that's an afternoon. But people are mad at you for not watching literally a week and a half worth of TV.

You don't understand where that's where it is. They're like that, And then people are even still they're like, watch it, skip season two and six, but watch. It's like, if you are telling me to skip entire like fourteen hours, that's why I don't watch West Wing. I haven't seen West Wing. Love Aaron's Organ, love them all, but everyone's like, he gets bad, and I'm like, if it gets bad, I'm not going to do don't ill only review, like I will only recommend TV and be like I can

never strongly recommend TV. I can always say I liked it. If you catch yourself sick, watch like, there's never I'm never gonna tell anyone they have to devout themselves to the TV. She's sure, even the ones I love. There's one exception though, and that it's what we're going to talk about later today. But like with drag Race, but with drag Race simply already like exactly even then there are it has become a show that's eating itself in

some ways. It's gay, so it's self referential. And but it's even now self referential not just to gay culture, but to the culture of drag races, you know what I mean, Like it makes inside jokes. So I do think it still is. It's a little trickier now to just like started a season and you have someone guiding you through, you could enjoy it. You just would enjoy things less because I started with season four or something and just and it wasn't bad. It was There's a

lot there's like traditions. You don't know about snatch games, so what we're getting ahead of osels, but like you don't know about certain things. You're just like, oh, I'm watching it, and then you go back and watching like, oh there were jokes that I missed. I just this year that RuPaul has been heavy on the Digley Kelly and a references. Yes, this year, I think it does occur a lot of a lot of her stuff. I

think because it was hundred queens. He was like leaning into it a lot this year because the legacy, Consider your legacy, Consider your legacy. Consider the snake is eating its own tail. I do agree. I'm not saying this is bad, saying more and more than that show is. I agree with you, but it has also Bob is now the cornerstone of that first queen raised by the show. I love that. I didn't even realize that. Okay, well,

let's get into the show. I mean, like they're doing a lot more jokes, even about literally like Bob's one of his best jokes of the season was like cute, Yeah, I love that was great. I mean, Bob the Drag Queen, for those of you who do not know, has one season eight of RuPaul's Drag Race spoiler. You know, Bo people were coming for Bow and I have one question that they aired on the West Coast at the same

time or they had to wait three hours. But that's that's the only thing I get because there were West Coast people comments. If you care about a live show and it's like and you know about West don't you have to get off? I have gotten off even when it's not aired, Like I don't go on Facebook when we went on when we knew were going to miss that episode where we're in Florida. I'm not going on Facebook for a day. If I don't want spoiled, I

do the same thing. People are stupid. You're the comments that I got from one David Craig, whom I love, he said, even West Coast, I'll name him West Coast, Yes, Craig, West Coast. Didn't know they're in l A right now. Yeah, he said. By and Brick Cray are by co c famously. Um, he will anyone understand a word of this podcast? We're going to say brand he's our one listener essentially. No, We've got a lot of listeners. I have listened, honey,

number we have listeners. David Craig said, Um, spoiled, spoiled two seasons in a row. Well, Katia Gate was something I took a very personally own up to that. In fact, I did. I did dub it Katya Gate. Yeah, and no one had used gate as a suff excit, not not that I certainly not that I had heard. I just thought, let's put it a second, let's stick a gate on the end of this and see what happened. I was just thinking about Gates. At the time, I wasn't even I was. I was with Josh Sharpe at

Barracouta when when she was eliminated. Do you remember this, Josh, because this was our first time venturing out exactly, and that's when we learned. I think that, as we've referenced before, the the response of Ginger by the community we were shoting Ginger was popular and we never be living in a button but not a button a bubble about friends. But this was immediately after Katia was eliminated. I was

a Barracouta. I was distraught, and so I treated just you know, something true to it was something and that I needed to it said no, Katya, and everyone knew what you were talking about. And honestly, as a friend, you were absolutely that time you were in the wrong, but not not this last night. But what's the difference again for West Coast, I would say that was still and that it's like, if you really don't want to spoiled, don't check. I think you're expecting a certain great spirit

of like maybe give me. But when like he texted it, as it had aired right like at the Corna, it had no no No No, No, I hadn't even like the episode hadn't even ended. So I'm thinking if I went on and this did not get spoiled for me, But I'm thinking as a person like I went online, like

maybe someone's not even eliminated yet. Right, you have we're talking about literally two minutes before it ends and two minutes after in this so you think that is enough for that to be well, I just think the distinction is in the fact that it is announced. I agree with you, yes, explain, I'm not disagreeing. I just want you to articulate this is it's a cultural event and

therefore like you're getting new cultural information and super Bowl. Yes, yes, maybe I'm taking this a little too seriously, but it's just like we have a new queen of RuPaul's drag race. That is something that is an announcement, that is a piece of fact, especially like for people that care and

so learning that. And also there's just not as much suspense intention in the finale I feel is that's not I think like Broncos win the Super Bowl, No one's like you fucker, like you spoiled the Super Bowl three, you know what I mean, Like, it's not like, yeah, you can't spoil one of the three of them, you have, I would have never guessed. Yeah, I think because it's

live too. I know the finale is pre taped, but the we they don't know into like bobbed and no until air, So I think, like that makes it feel like the super Bowl. To me, it's like it's live, whereas the tape, the Katia thing, that's a pre taped episode, so it feels more like give me a minute. A lot of a lot of differences in distinct Wow, I really liked Unpack that. I don't watch much reality other than rupose. The reality shows have the same East coast

West coast problems the major networks. I would say certainly that they do, because I mean, that's just how television is. I mean, but I would say, yeah, if you're feeling passionately about Survivor, because any of them air at the same time on the coast to a Survivor does not know because because like American Idol and some of those that were live must have they did, the oscars do

and ship like that. But like it feels weird to put Survivor on at five pm on a Wednesday when it's on h p M. I don't think I air at five believe the West Coast when it was big, probably towards the end now, but like and it's heyday, You're probably right. I've always thought that must be so strange to live on the West Coast and watch Lives. Maybe it didn't, but maybe they showed the live broadcast

light there. I just would have guessed they did. But the finales were taped in Los Angeles though for American idol um, yes they were. But they do it at five o'clock. Yeah, you're right, they do, unless unless they are only showing it live for the East coast. But why why are we like um like because money and honey, because great and the time you ain't gonna get people

watching at five pm? That's right, they don't give a shit about I mean, they need to air it app tape it live at five pm West Coast so that East Coast gets in the range. Josh slipping on his l A knowledge right here. But wait, I want to talk more about reality TV in general, even though I love Survivor steer it, honey, No, they're steer. The discussion of spoiling is interesting. I agree with you. But now we're talking about, but I want I want to talk

about exhausted. You know what I mean. Let's do a nipple check before we talk to there are shockingly harry, I think I have the ha love well, yours are the longest I have. Not fifteen seconds ago, someone said let's get back to drag Rice. But then we start talking about bodies before we get back to drag race, and as an interlude, I would I would like us to check our nipples. Okay, okay, I'm getting a little hard. Okay, it's a little chili in here, but it feels but

it feels good. I love clothes. I'm warmed by culture like I get. So here's a question, and after this, I do want to get right back to the drives. But I'm really interested in this question. When you're at home and you're, you know, filling your oats, um, did you go less close on the bottom half of your body or less closed on the top half of your body?

Because I do shirt underwear or just fully naked when I'm like hanging out at home and I've noticed that my boyfriend does the same thing shirt underwear, although he he just likes to walk around and underwear allow. What do you guys do? What's your state of hanging out? I shed my lower half and so there's as far as mobility goes, as far as walking place to place, it's just it's it's so much more comfortable. What about you, guys, I'm more of it, Like would wear the shirt not

the pants than where the pants and not the shirt? Right? I would say same though also often shirtless, but more commonly naked. I'm not often naked. You have roommates rooms, yeah, but famously some some some you roommates Falter shirtless all the time? Is the time? Kidding me? Yeah? But he's at his home and it's not like I guess at this point, like you're in your underwear. You know That's what I'm saying. Let him be, go ahead attack him.

I'm not attacking James Faltter. James, if you're listening, he's not. It's not. Michael. Wolf's also cute, and so is that lesbian that you slip with your guys, both of them less shirtless Falter the lesbian. What's your problem? I don't have a problem with James. I love you so much. James and I have have really bonded quite quite a bit last year. Um, you know what, I feel some frustration as a as a single gay man that James is very good at, you know, getting all the gays

riled up. And it's not even just the gays anyone. He has a legacy. And just so everyone knows, Bowen is furiously masturbated right now, I think it's it's effort less. Isn't that sad though? The straight guys that really want the attention, not if I want to give it to him. It's not sad to me, but nothing's going to happen. You don't care. I don't care. I don't like that.

I don't care. But here's the thing that frustrates me a lot, especially when I was single and I would meet somebody and just feeling like an intense flirtation with them and then finding out that they were straight. It's not fun to me. It's fun to touch a waste, touch a stomach, touching arm and know that it's fine even with a gay guy if it's like we're not actually going to go like have sex. I don't mind touching aways, touching a stomach, touch I would call myself

sign alert co sign. So when someone else is a flirt, I say, thank god. But then but then we see some of those men hook up with our gay friends on the stage of ca mat cage match, and then everything changed. That was a hot kiss. It truly was like a real nice kiss. It was that's culture. That is culture n seventy eight, just culture, kiss culture, kiss culture on the open mouth. Let's get back to drag race.

Why not? I feel like minutes well, can I say talking about no, We're it's okay, We're following the exact pattern our episodes usually go, which is like a lot of bullshit, and then like six minutes of what are actually I fucking love cheet and honestly I want her. I have serious problems with Naomi being in the top three and not che a little. I have problems with it. I don't have serious problems with it, but I did want for cheat Sheet to be in the top three.

Josh and I saw that final episode together where they were about to announce the top three and eliminate Cheecht. But there was a moment and I really believed this was going to happen where I was like, what if they do a top four this year? I had smelled that come into especially since they did the double elimination and never like brought back like they never did you both chant you both which I thought of it was, I think, neither Cheat nor Naomi, we're going to win.

In the topic of course, even if was in I went, but she still had a story. I disagree. I think CHEECHI either comes in fourth or first. There's no way. I think. I don't know. I you know, I don't let him speak if I don't know if this is true. I feel I feel as though, actually, if you really look at the season, it wasn't the most you mention was paid to cheat che That was the biggest arc A little bit was the hero's journey of Cheach she had. She had the biggest edited journey. I agree, And maybe

Kim Chi. You know what I will say. I feel like Kim's should would have Stid a better chance of winning if she would have told her mom, which is hold on, hold on, so someone so someone, someone at the A V Club wrote a recap of the finale last night, and they had this whole paragraph where they were like, you know, when Rue was interviewing Kim, she after her number at the crowning. You know, she kind of went into her mother and the fact that Kim had had still not made progress cost her the crown.

So for everyone that doesn't know this, Kim, she is not out to her mother as a gay man and does her mother does not know that Kim she does drag and does not know the extension of her talent or her and her mother is a Korean American. So there is like a cultural more of a cultural difference, and that is the thing. Every culture has their own shitty way of reckoning with with homosexuality, that's rule number six, UM.

But with with Asians like listen, just speaking for myself and for people that I know, I've never seen it. I've never seen it work out in a way that uh not everyone is extremely extremely It's it's not an extremely painful process for everything. It has never been portrayed in a positive accepting like in terms of like the family accepting the out day um Asian person. And it's true, and it's Kim's choice to not Well, I'm saying I

think it's fucked up. I don't think TV. I think I think if she would have I think Rue likes that TV. And I'm not saying she would have want I really truly think it was Bob season, Like I don't. I honestly think we'll look back on it and be like, oh no, one staid a chance, um, the way we do with bioncan a door even though it felt like a door might win, and then you look back on it, you're like, oh no, beyond like walked in the door in one. I feel like that's how we'll look at Bob.

But I do think it would I as gross as it is, I think that's a negative thing. I think that's the TV issue part about drags that if Kim had told her mom and had like a sob story on the finale, it would have been more like you're the queen, you know, like which you are sort of pausing that Asian is the hardest culture to come out in. Not no, I know what I'm just saying, because that we are creating I'm not disagreeing, but that we're creating this sort of like pissing contest because it's not easy

to come out and being black. And you know, that's what I'm saying, Like every culture has their own terrible way of considering like how to treat like you know, they're they're they're they're gay youth population whatever. I think that And this is me speaking without the knowledge of really what I'm talking about, But this is something that

I like to pose. It is that like there's just a complete lack of education in a lot of traditional Asian heritage about homosexuality, and whereas like I think, maybe am I out of turn saying no, uh no, you're you're not. I just don't think I'm I'm a white man. And this is something in a recent one that doesn't know Aaron, Josh and I are white. Bowen is an

Asian identify as it's important to identify everything. I'm not joking in a recent anti racist seminar we went to that was paid for by the U c B community, But I was gonna say thank you, I would say, and again I'm fully prepared to say I'm waiting into a territory where I might say something that's uninformed, but that's allowed. But that's allowed. You have to go to

these places. I'm sometimes surprised about the element where drag you feel like would be a hard sell in the drag in the Asian community, because how much of there is like a tradition of ky and cross dressing and theater that embraces gender. Fu Manila Luzon, a queen who was a runner up season three and was in All Stars. Um she went and remember where not the film. She went to Asia somewhere and was like like is she

Philip huge? Shea and she went And that's why when she did like a horribly stereotypical Asian dialect on the show, people were like, well, well, let a slide and she won that challenge, but it really was like the one where you're like, um, like Mickey Rooney. But anyway, she

went and was like huge there and like there. I saw videos of her on Instagram because that to me also again as a white man might be saying something horribly racist, seems like the fucking Asian community would like go gagat for drag totally, and I feel like if it was very visual, yeah and they let like that is true. When I went to Taiwan, it was like everything is animated and like the subway adds where it's like don't eat on the subway is like Mario and Luigi.

It's like it's and it's like they they like they love um like icons and icon not graffiti and stuff here's what here's what you do for for all of those countries. You dial down the I don't know, the the the puritanical like mentality that all of those all of those countries are coming out of. And then and of course it's like the like they get out of the matrix, like oh my god, everything is gay and everything is great, and like everything that is gay is great,

and yeah, I don't know. I think I'm there's there's catching up to do in that part of the world. But for Kim, back to Kim, I think she has the right and anyone has the right of any culture come out whenever they want to negotiate, to negotiate what they want to communicate to their parents, but when they want to show on TV, totally agree with that. And this is me speaking to TV. But this is why

I've said before. It to me, Bob is the clearer choice though, and that doesn't that still is like some weird factor of it where Kim cheese journey it wasn't really about that is about more than other things, was sort of the typical drag queen journey of like I'm learning to love myself, like oh my god, I should embrace what these things about me, whereas Bob's really was like because it's not that Bob didn't deal with that.

Bob talked about like I was like a dark skinned kid growing up in you know wherever, right, but he like came in a sort of more like, oh no, I'm I've dealt with that. Now. What I want to bring is what drag can do for the world, which is like, whoa, there's not really been a queen on the show. That's fully articulated that. I was trying to think of all the winners, and I don't think any

of them really made a case for that before. Now they selfish they make the case for why I am the best this season, which which they should, and sometimes why I'd had personal growth this season, which Bob also did. But Bob was like really going like this is what I will do with this, which I wondered, that's going to be a new thing. By the end, Bob was

the winner. I just I just disagree, like in thinking about what I said about she, When you historically look back at the show, it's not always the person who quote unquote won the season that walks away with the crown. I don't think you could look at the season that Jinks mont Soon was on and say, well, she had one that season. It was clear. Yeah, there was a feeling that she should win, I think, and she had deserved to win. But I think that she had many

documents struggles on that. Yeah, and I think with her it was like she was not good at looks, but she slaid the challenges because there were so many comedy or singing or acting challenges that season, and she is very She's like a you know, like it can't be cabaret queen. Like she's very good at that. So I do think that that they would have kicked her off normally in many other seasons because it's like, oh that she like, look at her on the Runway, she's trash.

But then it was just like, but you won the challenge and she was she wasn't that bad on the run watched her wigs are very thirsty, are like, but she did that. I like that. And also she looks good at the finale. Yeah, when she came out at the final. Yeah, this, yeah, we have to talk about I mean this was this was the gag of the season was violets In the finale of season crush her blue veins her that way, cause I couldn't believe they'll never take that crown from her story, and that made

me the bar I was out. We were all freaking out reading and we've all been talking about season seven the whole time, and I was a Violet Choky apologist supporter. And I would just like to say if Gingerman waddled out there like Toad, no one would give a was screaming for Violet, who we talked about earlier that day, And I will just say she was the right and then deserves her. She's a queen. We dropped off in our grinder conversation and I still hold a little bit

of animosity for that. But no hope or hope. But yeah, I'm mad at everyone I haven't fucked. It's not even that I'm mad at everyone I haven't culture. Will number seven be mad at everyone you're having there's a reason to be angry study. And I went to the season seven crowning. I was there with you. Yeah, well you didn't stay, is what I was saying. I was gonna say because Bowen has this theme where he'll prioritize dragons above all else entirely the time that it's on and

then we'll go to the finale. He'll like, again, this amazing opportunity to see the crowning. The crowning will happen, and then they're like, Okay, now they're all going to come out and perform. We're gonna like party and watch them all perform. And Bo's like, I'm tired. It's a Monday night. Yeah, but you know what, if you really prioritize that you would stay and watch a Violet dor Silks, speaking of which I saw her do that last night and bit she was amazing. She gagged me. Well, I

saw it probably better than she was a year ago. Honestly, it doesn't matter because it wasn't She just won, honey, honey. I I had the fire in her heart that she was giving up her range. You don't sound like you can't even get your life right now? Can you tell you to tell you something? And you can't speak to this. Violet was incredible on the with those silks in the

aerial movements. It was ago. Violet was incredible. Ginger mina a year ago, well a year ago, ginger Mine did this stupid fucking performance and it was just dumbass, like basic ass singing, live singing, and it was like this weird like road song. But the worst of all was Pearl,

who absolutely was worthless, couldn't perform at all. And I love when some of these internet padding was showing, Oh god, I love when some of these internet jackals love to be like Trademark and Jackson loved to be like, oh fucking Rial. She just gives it to like the fucking most you know, the fucking queen with the biggest social media following was like that was Pearl, Yeah, had the most followers this year. Him Kim had Door a Door had the most followers. Rarely does I would. I mean,

I think it impacts them going far sometimes. But also all those queens were pretty good. I'm not pretty, I'm very grateful, just pl just she It's like Battle of Seasons and it's like Pearl Pear, which I think is kind of cool though, just like throw your things and shocked that Pearl is not out All Stars too. Really no, no, I bet she wasn't asked. I don't think. I bet she probably doesn't like her. I would be sure that

she doesn't. And also maybe Pearl was just super novelty for that season for sure, what I liked about Pearl that was that she refused to bite and play the game and revealed too much about her personally. I did like that in the finale because it seemed like they were trying to tease that she had been abused in her youth, and they were like trying to get that out of her, and she's like, I don't want to I don't want to talk about it. Which great, You're allowed.

Did she flat out say she wasn't going to talk about it. She They would just they kept trying to get at it in reality TV way and she just would be like, I don't want to talk about that, right, But the ultimately led to bad TV and I hated her. I mean, that's the thing is like Lan didn't have that much to say. I'm not joking. You don't have to pour that much you have to do anything. I didn't. She wasn't. I just really appreciate what it feels like.

It's a competition. Like despite the fact that you can look back on this season and say Bob did win, it was a nail butter there between her and Kim. She Now what what I do agree is if she she was in the top three you'd feel like it was more of a horse race. But I still don't think you would think she was. You would run the gamut of all these different grades you'd have. You'd at least have an answer for why she could win. I think there wasn't really an answer for why I Naomi

could win. Really Okay, wait, I want to tell we. UM know someone who was at the finale, and he told me some fun stuff. We give some tea. So one that is so funny is they film, um multiple they film all them winning the crown. Um, so there's no spoiler. Um. He did say they filmed Bob twice and filmed none of the other ones twice. But a lot of times they'd be like, oh, the MIC's cut out, like you need to film that again, and they said something like that, but it was sort of like your angles.

But anyway, when they filmed Naomi, Um, Naomi Smalls is this beautiful like model who's now going to walk in fashion weeks and stuff. But um, when they filmed her, she got the microphone and said, thank god, a big girl. Finally one dropped the mic and just walked. It's on Instagram. It is oh my god, but your friend and you're going and I love that. Lastly, maybe that's reason enough to have her once, so you can show that I'd be like our favorite Naomi story and get it on record.

Here I have her basic, but this is for the viewers you might have. So, like Aaron and I were hanging out with Bob in before the season aired, and Naomi was there and Naomi was beating her face. They both taped the season. They both taped the season. They knew they were we were to hang out for we Ni on the show was on the show because she was not really in the leaked list from up top,

because she was not her own. So we're hanging out with Bob in his hotel room and we're just gonna go and hang out and stuff, and then Naomi's there beating her face, and Naomi's going to go out and host at Mickey's. And Naomi's basically wearing a thong and then like a sea through plastic pants and shorts and then these in shields and yellow long yellow wig. She's like very like her rollers skate neon look, or maybe

it wasn't roller skate word that she had. The plastic plastic she was like tinted blue and a stun We're going and stunning boy, stunning girl girl a drag on, like being up close as like that you are staggeringly beautiful. So we go out and we're walking to the car she's going to drive to her gig and she's in her heels and Bob is like, she's seven, child, like take them off, put them on in the club, and she's like no, no no, no. He's like, what are you doing.

You were walking down sons at Boulevard wearing your heels, like put them, put on your flasks and put them on the club. And she turns to us she goes, I don't want to look tacky, and then walks off assholes out in the open next to a highway and we're all today, I don't want to look tacky, and we just died. All three of us just stopped in gags because I had to sit on the ground. So it was just you guys and Bob and Naomi. We didn't even know. Naomi was like, um, gonna be the

big thing. But then I remember asking Bob like because then we went out and hung out of gay bars with Bob and then Naomi had to host I was like, what's her name again? She's so fierce. He's like Naome Smalls. That didn't give it away at all, but you're gonna know her name stories because Bob had seemed sucking twins and he's seen in New York. But also it's very nice and came in l A was gonna take Nao there.

We didn't come but Naomi Naomi on the mic at Mickey she's hosting, but like everybody's talking like no one can hear, and she gets on the the DJ doesn't take the music now, she's just doing the normal like what kind of thing. Like She's like, and guys, we should check out show at you PC Theater. I was like, ye're nice, what's your show? I was like, a check it out at you check it out tomorrow night you PC.

So funny to that no one can here while go Go boys dance with their like that funny story that Amanda tells about Amanda our friend Amanda Shakman. She's in popular with us and she gets calls from like her her agent, her manager, like she'll get voicemails about audition she has coming up, and like, because you know how some people in the industry I guess when they get funny people to come in for commercials, they're like, we love to see like you know, the UC beyond a

resume and stuff like that. So she'll get like a voicemail from this like basic ass assistant at our agency and she'll be like, hey, Amando, this is Kristen from and we have an audition for you. Um, this is like pop. It should be very ubc pit um, you know, and they want to they want to. They wanted to be very neat. They wanted to be very ubc Um. You play like a girl who is um funny in a situation. Um, so remember remember remember to bring ubc pit. And also now bringing up the pit gives me my

This is my favorite. When we were all before of us were there and there was a bunch of people there and we were all sitting there, and I guess he kind of knew you guys because to that point, Yeah, I think we just came a bunch of his show and we hung out a time, and then he came to that and then yeah, and he goes over there those the comedy gays, like the U C B gays, You watch out or you're gonna be performing at the pit, such as just like such a read to the pit,

and also so specifically not even New York people would know that Barracuda death like to pick a room in New York where no one will know the differences all those two like barracout on a Monday night at one in the morning, Everyone's like, what, Oh my god, I was so funny. It was so funny. It was just and honestly, did you guys know watching him then that he would one day win? RuPauls Daggers. I felt like

I knew he was. I just talked to our dear friend Zack Rner Harris last night, and we were so happy when he won, and we're all dancing around, and then we were talking about like, oh my god, I can't believe it. And then he said, but like because we're talking about how it was our queen and like our favorite queen and so cool to have your favorite queen on the show and then win. And he was just saying that, like, but when you heard she got on and we were all like, oh, well, she's going there.

I would say even before that, when I first met her, I was I did not think that because I was so much like, oh, you're a pro, like you're a working queen. You don't even need to be anyone could. But then when that thing started going around about how rou went and cognitated her show and tipped her a hundred dollars, I was like, oh, she's on and she wins. Yeah, I mean the first night, Oh my god, it goes back to Cottygate. My first I may ever saw Bob the Dragon was the night I've caught to Gate. I

remember leaving Barracuda. I can even met you guys after Yeah, and then Oscar Montoya was in town, already knew Bob then, right, yeah,

we've already gone to Bob show just from Twins. We would we would go after so much for Twins, and we stayed and Bob was our favorite, and we had Monday nights something year and a half ago or two years ago, and he came, and then he came, and then also we came with Matteo one time Bob, and then Mateo and Bob knew each other back and Carolines and that sort of then became like, oh, let's let's

haven came to Twins. Yes, so last night at the Crowning Um so like some someone on the red carpet dropped out, so they called Mateo to like get him to come down, like Logo called his manager to get him to come down. And then Mateo got me and Henrykopersky tickets and so we rushed down there. And then afterwards we meet up with Matteo after the crowning and he tells us that I'm tired, I have to go home. Well we all left together. Oh my god, no, stop at this. Sorry, I didn't even mean this was an

instance where Matt Hey. It was like Matteo was on the top alcony and we were chatting all night, like from across levels. First of all, Josh's jacking Aaron jock Erona just over the pant, over the pants like a fun mine. But I'm in my home. We're still sure it was the Matteo was speaking of which Mateo was interviewing Bob and Kim. She and Bob, I guess has

a huge crush on Matteo. Strange. How strange? Well, Bob Bob one time posted like a fan art that fan art thing that Meteto drew for him, and then the caption was, god, why is Mateo lane? Both so talented and so sexy, it's not fair. So then on the Red carpet last night, Bob made Matteo take his shirt off, and then Kim went up to and then when Mateo

interviewed Kim, he put a shirt back on. But Kim was like, wait, if you took your shirt off for Bob, you're taking your shirt off for me, and so he's like, fine, okay, and uh very willingly a chain. Well no he was. He owned up to He's like, no, I loved it. He was like, can I just say, Bob has the best grinder joke of all then? And if you're talking seen Bob on Grier never s a joke. I read it and I didn't even get it the first time.

Bob's profile just says look at the stage, and then a bunch of exclamation points because it's just like if you're checking it at her show and you see her, Oh that's fine, funny, look at the stage. Love that, but wait what Kim then took So then so then Kim and Meteo take a show over. Then Bob ran back, grabbed Meteto shirt and threw it across the I love that, love that amazing. I think him so funny. I was funny. I told you guys this, but this is my Kim's story.

So last night, so Kim released UM. So it's become tradition now that all the top three queen's release singles. Then Naomi did not, but in years past, I mean last year, all three of them had a single out the night of which is fucking obnoxious. So Bob released pirst first, like yesterday, and then Naomi did not. But Kim released a single, a troll single called single UM and the cover is Britney Spears hit Baby one More Time, like in that stupid pose, but with Kim Che's face

like grafted on it. And then it's a it's a disgusting piece of trash song that like is just a troll song. And then when Kim, when Kim came out last night, people were cheering. But then there was a silent moment that I just yelled. I was like two, I was like two rows down, uh, and I was like single is the best song of all time? And then Kim laugh smiles, points at me and goes, I

like you. And it was very special. What do you think it would have been like in that room if Kim if Nao made one, people would have been shocked. But people were out there for Kim was it was splitty evenly between like Bob lovers and Kim lovers, and even the Kim lovers were a little more vocal. It was it was the only Kim was very popular because even at that when we were at you weren't there before. But um, I mean Bob. The one we were at was like totally Probob, but there were still there was

like a Kim cheer that surprised me. I was like, WHOA. I didn't think it would be silent, but it was like and it was here for Kim che It was like, I was like, damn, a lot of people interesting. All Stars three, Yeah, I don't know who who out of this season is getting on All Stars three. I think Kim Cheech. You could make a case for Naomi che George for sure, but even like a Derek or a Robbie could get on and All Stars. If Robbie or Derek gets on, I think Derek's done with all start

with with drag Race. I think Derek I've got better at what she does and she her face is beat. I think Naomi could be done with drag race. For sure. You said Naomi is walking? Is she actually gonna She's gotten? She's gotten, but that's what she wants. She wants to be at all Wow, So that's amazing. I think she's on All Stars three. I think Cheechi Devane could be very good. Ken the imports not all that's what that's the one name Pearl. I'm surprised because she was such

a popular, quote unquote contested. But Kennedy. I think that's someone that was snubbed for All Stars too. I guess they did. I could live. We can try and list who's all I'll keep itally so I can go just backwards by the seasons because it's easier. So it's Katya and Ginger than it's a door, and then it's a shipload of Season five, so it's Roxy, Alaska, Detox Cocoa. Then it's Tatiana, Tana and Fifi. Is what I have so crazy because with that list, I can't even begin

to say who will be out first? And he'll be there at the end. I think thing to be there at the end. I think Alaska wins. Do they know that? No, No, they don't. They don't think they have think she could win. I just I think I think it's like a Chad Michael's where RuPaul's like, oops, I feel bad you are. Alaska is the most famous queen from drag Race, like maybe even more than sharing more than certainly more than I don't think that's Alaska's huge. I don't think she's

bigger than Bianca. I think she has more online followers. Then let's find out. How do you think that Roxy Andrews is going to do on All Stars? Just depends on how early the fashion stuff is, because if it's early on, then she'll go far and then it's like then you can kind of depends. I'm excited for Tatiana, yeah, because that was so long ago and she was a different different yes yeah, wait, what's yes? Tatiana ta a different show. I think that Coco will be out very early.

I would bet Cocoa and Ginger. I know we have a biased against Ginger, and honestly, I'm sure she's a lovely person, but I just I don't see her where she's like, I'm a comedy queen against those queens, stuck up to them. I have some Ginger tea, but I won't share it. I'll share. I said, the Ginger tea is pretty I mean I had heard that, like Ginger when she taped the show was going through it. Oh so that sucks. So she's going to be like sad.

So she's gonna be released and there, and they're going to work that into the edit, which I think is kind of ship. Are they really? Alaska has a hundred and twenty thousand less followers than Beyond. Okay, but I do think um Alaska is um when they did that, and this is just wow reports but everybody voted. This was pre season seven and they're like, here's your top twenty five queens of all time. Um Alaska and a Door were one and two and number one preseason seven,

pre seven but right after she'd won. Yeah, but Beyond It hadn't done the special, but I mean has had four had no time. But Bianca was a Door, like I can't say a Door. It was well like everyone loves being I agree, but I mean you need to give her a little breath. But a Door was number one. Yeah, she was, and I think the Door point of true popular amongst the audience. However, I don't think she's going to be adaptable enough in that group. I don't see

our door because of the fashion. I don't see her winning it. Yeah, it's also as a queen, the way that she has developed in her in the way that she actually works. She doesn't care. She doesn't send her waiste rock drag, yeah, which is so cool, but that that she would definitely allow it. It's not gonna it's not Is that going to read on this? I think that um Alyssa very well. I don't. I don't. I agree with that. I think it's Alaska's to lose. But I think Alyssa will be a contender and I think

could go far. But also catch is like she is weirder. She's weird and I love her and I think she could win two. But I do think. I just think it's Alaska's to live. Yeah, I feel so bad for what I used to think of Tricksie because tricks I love Tricksie now and I hated tricks Have you watched have you watched her watch it? I've seen it a couple of times. I'm mean, I think she's so funny that your favorite. I actually I don't love her. I have to say, I really don't like her makeup. Well,

I still really have issues with her. Some more tea from the finale is that Trixie called out Acid Betty for that Untucked moment and it was like not cute, like it wasn't a cute call out and asked Betty like had to defend herself and it was like kind of long. And this unnamed source that I know that was at the finale said it was sort of like the moment of the finale, like it was like it was big, but I think they kind because it was.

And also probably I don't snippet those those things with the queen's a questions, like but they ripped on Fifi in the But anyway, Acid Betti in an episode of Untucked when Kim she was getting an emotional video like she's like her makeup though, Oh Jesus Christ, get her out of here, like worst queen into Ali drag race history like like that, which is like she was just being shady fun but it was it was like this is her emotional moment, let her watch the goddamn It

was one thing to say. It was literally like she was talking over video then. However, though I have seen pictures of them together, Trixie and A said posts that thing and they're like, look like they're having fun. But maybe it's just like pot but so I think, but maybe she just did call her out and it was

like it was a big moment of the taping. Yeah, I think that as I think that Trixie Mattel actually I would put in the Pandora box area of being one of the most severely overrated queens in the history. I used to think that, but then Josh and I sort of came around her. I've come around on her, but but I guess I didn't know how well regarded.

Tricksie really was really popular and there's a reason why she was brought back, and there was an uproar after she got voted out, but then she was brought back and it was the same thing that you saw with Naisha, which is like someone mediol I did not like Trixie on the program, and now I have liked her because of the World of Wonder YouTube channel. Um she has a show with Katya and I have liked it a lot,

and I have come around on her. I still don't love her makeup, but I think she is just like I don't love makeup, Like I'm like I'm making fun of dragon, which I get it is not my favorite thing, but I also think, and then I feel terrible. I think Pandora's over eight attitude. I will say about Tricks, He's not a Nation at all, because it was like, at least a queen who had a couple of weeks to like show what she could do and then go home and then be brought back. Sense she looks so amazing.

Here's the thing about Nation is like, honestly, it was such a dumb bring Yeah, but I mean like it was such a stupid bringback because it's like, we don't know anything about this person. Why do any of us care. I still would have rather seen more Nation looks on the runway than Robbie Turner. I think Robbie Turner actually is for the worst queens on the runway in the history of that league of their own runway. Washous, you

know what I like there? And toss a ball without a mitt or a baseball bat, You're just going to toss the ball up and down and you're just gonna buy the costume from Halloween Advantage at the finale, and Madonna was so red of all. I loved that read and so good you know what, somehow felt much more meaningful to me, especially after all the winners walked down and I was like, Bob is in that like she

and she belongs. She belongs. Also, Aaron and I were talking earlier that there was this thing sometimes I'm like, there's never been a queen like kimch and that's why people were mad. It's like there's never been and I'm like, there's never been a queen like Bob. Anybody who tries to say she's a Bianca, I'm like, well, no, they're

both comedy. She's so much funnier. And then also the aforementioned like what she's trying to do with it, and then the same token like there've been look queen's before too, like Raja was a look queen and Violet, but Rasha was even like an avant garde look queen like Kim. But they're not the same at all. I'm not I'm not saying this to like Dinnigrade either. I'm just saying, like Bob is as close to Bianca as Kim she is to Rasha, which is not at all. Did you

guys watch the roll deexs of Hate? Now? I heard that was about finish. So so I would say I saw Bianca live one time and it was a horrible room, and she was very funny with all of her I think she's truly a good insult improv comic. And when her like written material feels a little hacky, maybe yeah and racist, I just like so tasteless and like because she's not just trying. Don Rickles wouldn't work in a

room these days, yeah, you know. Um, and like a Joan Rivers thing right, was very like racist and pushing envelope stuff. I saw stand up when I was a freshman in college. I was on a date with a girl and we went down to the down to the

East village. She was like, honestly at this point had to be like I guess eighty eight years old or something, and she had her like huge like pieces of posterboard tape to the stage and she was like still trying out new material, but the majority of the news her it was like all like really really unearned yeah, and it was like really tough. I will, okay, I'll say

this about Bianca and Bob. The difference between Bianca and Bob to me is, um, I won't I won't get into this, but I got dinner with you guys, know, I got dinner with Throgy a drive and just hanging out with her, and I'm sure you guys got this sense hanging out with Bob, I feel like they're both like they're both like our people, like I don't know, just and here and watching the two of them interview each other in these like logo videos where like they're

backtage rehearsal and they're just talking and like having this great conversation that is so engaging. I'm like, oh, like they're they're like they're like our sensibility and like they like they're like New York based like performers, and I don't know, like there's some shared commonality in that, and so watching them and just it's very meanful. I got

very emotional last night watching Bob cry. As soon as the crown was was pinder ahead, I was like, oh my god, you've watched the uh the video of what's it called when they see it live? I haven't seen today has a hilarious line where Bob starts to cry and back and they're like, you're ruining your makeup, and Bob go, I ruined it the second I painted it all.

I was looking for that as um Kim. She is like immediately like you deserve this, You deserve this, like in a nice way, with a tinge of like you're like you need to say these things. Maybe I don't know. I meant him reading into it also very nice. It doesn't read a shady but she's just immediately being like very complimentary. And Naomi, I think because probably Naomi and Bob I believe got to be well Kim and friends, Kim extreme best friends. And Naomi was just more like

squeezing Bob's hand and then giving her kisses. Come on, you knew this, um, but but oh but then I read this. You were talking about this, like what Bob is gonna do with the yeah's going to give a million dollars to charity? Right, And then there was this interview that came out of Entertainment Weekly that someone just posted and like at the end, he just goes like someone asks him or was in New York magazine, this is a multure. Someone asks him, Uh, well, what's next

for Dragon? He goes, Whenever people ask me that question, I think nothing's Like I love the way drag is now, like whatever's next? Is just going to be like whatever happens, it's already changed so much in the last five years, Like let's just go along for the right. I don't want to forecast too much because I already think it's perfect. It's like such a perfect pure art form. It is a really good time. I think it's so true anyway. I also, I do want to say, um, just really

quickly in defense of Bianca da Rio. I've heard a lot of people now because Bob is winning, and Bob supporters throwing Bianca under the bus and like calling her ship. I have to say, Bianca is such a true queen, fantastic and I love her, one of the true winners. And I think just because her style of comedy is different and we're all basement comedians and she is more like doing a Joan Rivers John Rickles, which is more like for all of America, I feel like just doesn't

just because it's not your exact brand. I do still just think Bob's funnier than because you agree with her sensibility more. But I think Bob would kill in all of America just like Bianca quit because Bob just saying I'm just saying, you like Bob more, but Bianca is as funny. If that's your taste, it's like a subjective toast. I don't think. I don't think it's like a ginger versus Bob, Like I know you're not Guess what I'm saying is I think Bob is more like can play

more comedic styles. It's like more expansively funny, not doing one trick. This is what I'm saying. I'm being a Bianca apologist, but I feel like she's getting a lot of attack and she's being called but I'm saying she's very, very funny. I'm not saying she's not funny. I do think Bob is funnier. Yeah, but that is subjective. Watch her worm with the crowd for the coronation last year. She killed She's so funny. Yeah, she's so funny. She's truly and you like Bob better as do I. But

I don't like this weird thing. It's like Bob's funnier, He's the funnier. What was like to you Bianca is? I think there's a lot of weird negative beyond and she's a New York queen just like Bob. Their dear friends. They love to perform together and they will for all time. I also don't have on one because lift the other up. Wow. I would also say that Bianca gives it as good as she gets it can take it. Yeah, she is a mean girl. That's how. That's the game that she plays.

Sometimes when I look back on Bianca in her season and Untucked, I think she was pushing buttons that didn't necessarily need to be pushed. I think they created a great TV. I feel very attacked. I mean, thank you for that, but she was very vicious, and I think that it was this weird dichotomy. But with Bianca, like depending on who she really liked or not, I thought it was advantageous to be nice to like Adore. She knew was you know how her ship more figured out

than Lignja. I just don't like the whole. I think Liganda, if you look back at that season, was very clearly having an anxiety attack three weeks. But I can understand, not to not fully defending Bianca for attacking someone, but I do understand how they have to live with and she's like thirty seven and that girls like twenty two don't like you, and you're being like, stop yelling and you're like, I'm gonna yell at you a lot because

you're being an idiot. And I'm not trying to shoot on Loganja because I've listened to her what's the tea? And I like really came around, But um, I just think it's like that the pressure they're under and that. And I think Bob on his season had a lot of like Gia guns lag AGA's like a lot of I mean, not Bob, I'm sorry a Bianca where you're like whereas like this season, everyone seemed a little bit more like even the ones we don't like, like Robbie,

they all like her. So it's like Aaron's just saying, you have to kill the week I have. Oh honey, I'm a Darwin It. I have a question to bring the table that I believe we've not discussed on text threads or the Facebook duck. Can I say this, you're this is a quick uh of quad of people that have quite the text thread were in person for the first time, and this is a question I haven't really thought about until this moment. But my question is right,

I mean, RuPaul right now hardly wants to be in drag. Ever, right, how much longer does this show last? Like how much longer does RuPaul want to still have to be RuPaul doing this? And is there ever a point when she's not doing it anymore and it's will continue? I think, do you think that for a long time? But do you think that's so far in the future that she'll

do it for ten years at least? And so it's not even a question worth considering, she I thought, I do not think the show will go on with her. It's called RuPaul's Drag Race. I don't think it would be like and now Michelle's the main judge, Like, I don't think you can do it without a drag queen at the helm, and she truly is. It's like could Lady Bunny take over? I don't think. But at this point, I mean this is over. Yeah, I just don't see

it because it's like she Bob the Drag Race. Yeah, I think ru was the and still is the most successful. She came from a different era and than created a whole new well and how we we've talked about like my parents have never heard of Bob the Drag Queen, but my parents have heard of RuPaul, And like everybody knows who they don't know about her stuff, and they're not fans of her, but they're like it is amazing everybody, But she's a that, like there is no drag queen

like that. So I think it's sort of like I can't go on without her because you need the like who's the drag queen. It's RuPaul and there never will be another because now there's a market and it's still not the same that RuPaul is. My parents have no idea of bianc Adelrio. No, that's what I mean, because how why would they care? Like it's it's like a niche.

There's tons of them now, but no one's like broken into me like RuPaul was like on TV as RuPaul In like Sabrina the Teenage Witch, or liked her own talk show, or was like in magazines walking the runway. It's like she was truly in culture in a way that we're all our drag queens that we love are still in the fringes of culture. It's still this very But again I wonder if that has to do with like, at that time, that truly being such a novelty thing, which now it's like that would not be as big

of a novelty thing. I think it's still novelty to have a like a drag queen on on an T G I F show. Yeah, yeah, like that would be Sabrina. Yeah, she plays a hairdresser and then she like transforms she's a witch to Yeah, she plays well. I guess I'm saying she got sucked into culture because she was the first drag queen to make any ways, and now like divine, yeah, I guess after and there's always been drag queens, but

she became like she did. She was in magazines and modeled like she was accepted by main culture, like mainstream culture that Paul in the Brady Bunch movies and jan you better like that's insane. So then is the drag race culture at all creating sort of this niche thing where people can't break out as much because now there's just this little hamster wheel for you to really I mean not really, because Angela has many TV credits, yeah, whereas in drag just like what I believe it, I

just have cocktails in classic movies or something. It used to be on logo I mean Willem, yeah, but William was like boy famous before not no, like worked as a boy in TV all the time. I didn't know that. Have you watched season four? About? Actually haven't seen season That's all William talks about. Anytime they do anything, it's like, well, yeah, I've been on WiFi or somebody I was. I would have thought she was on it as a as a

drag queen. No, no boy, all right, should get into I don't think alright, so listen and I actually want to do something a little different. I don't think so honey. All right, I wanted to be I don't think so honey, And you can pick your I don't think so honey. Is any queen that's ever been on RuPaul's drag? And you gotta come for somebody for one? So who goes first? Who does go first? Does anyone really not like someone? I really? I feel like we all don't like ginger?

So that's what I mean. That would just be one one big ship fast ship post um. I want to go for one that's popular that you want to flip the table. But I like a lot of the popular. But but what if we all try to do that as an exercise, like pick someone popular and just know's how about this? I like this? We will we'll go in a circle and we have to pick someone for you. I wish we could like draw names you haven't seen,

as we know I could still do it. Let me give you one, Manila los On, and I have to and I have to go for her. You have to come from Manila losing. Does that make sense? Because I like Manila Loa because I hate Minilisa, and I think we shouldn't be put upon you. I think you should ask yourself the question, who's the queen that you sort of like even if you don't hate, but you have critical things to say about who is also the most popular?

Like you don't like Minilla and I'm gonna put on the clock right now, ready, And I don't think so, honey, go I don't think so, honey, Manila los On. You know what you are? You are an Asian minstrel. Excuse my use of that word. Um, you know, an Asian minstrel. Just that what what? Whatever the funk that Filipino lady was that she played on Snatch Game, Like I don't even know if that was authentic or like a good impression, but like, honey, that was atrocious and you it was

not the Kimmy jong Un thing like that was. There was a comment overlaid on top of that, which was fun and it was a nice, easy sort of fallback for Kim to be on but for for for Manilla No Way, and by the end when they did the whole like h there was one performance challenge they forgetting season three, but she butchered it. Raja rocked it. I think Alexis even rocked at. Sophia rocked Manila No Way

was a week link the entire season. Her only shining moment was lip sinking to what that fucking that that one song that um that MacArthur MacArthur Park And that was her only good moment and it was against Delta Work, and so of course she's gonna look amazing lip sinking next to Delta Work, who couldn't even emote for ship. So I don't think so, honey, Manila lose on. You

are not that great of a queen. Wow. I would maybe, and again we've now already shipped on the screen, but she's very popular and I hated her from the beginning. I would I would Pearl if you want Pearl, I mean, just like Pearl from Comfort Pearl, Josh Sharp and go okay, Pearl, I don't think so, honey. You've never brought anything good. You cannot do one thing well. But Guy Brandham says the litmus test of a good track queens. Do you want to host them? Watch watch them host bingo? Pearl,

I do not even want to watch play bingo. I do not even you bring nothing. I used to say in all the season seven it was like, please pull up some porn on your phone while drag Race is going on. Pearlin will not be hot enough as a boy to be worth being on TV, because that's the only reason she was Like inside of that sphere, you were like, I get half a chub, So I'm interested. She cannot do a thing. We're rewarding her now for being guarded about a personal life. I do not even

believe that was a choice. I think she has nothing to say about anything, including herself. Now she DJ's. I'm sure she can't even cross fade. I bet she has an iTunes playlist and you hear her when she turns up the volume on Dramac. I am positive that that happens. Alison. Did you see that look people like from drag Con where she just wore the like Star Wars dreads. Who cares like just because you bought four ft of yarn and you nobody gives a ship her. I don't think so, honey.

That's one minute a minute masterful, that masterful. I don't know who to go for. You know what? I have one? Okay, you got you go, But we wanted to be a popular queen. No, you can do one. You don't. I think you want to throw it by who is hit the button and is starting? I don't think so, honey, DA's exclamation point, because I've seen somebody dress having to start. Her name was Hallie Barry bitch, and she did it better than you ever could. And guess what she had

the special offense to come with her. How about this? How about this? If you're gonna come in, honey, and you're gonna be coming in as a magic queen, a nerd queen, have some magic do your thing, send some time with the magic castle with Neil Patrick Harris and his husband as two kids, which by the way, they're both blonde, so you know which sperm took Neil Patrick Harris. I don't think so, honey. Random genetic tests. Listen, Dax, you have a problem. You can't even sing I will survive.

I literally walked into the market the other day and I heard I will sat I came out. I knew every goddamn word, your embarrassment, And honestly, I hated that they sent home Layla McQueen as well, because you know what, you have to judge it as you see it, honey, And that was a halle berry ass, fake gass, second rate bitch who couldn't even think I will survive. And know what, you didn't survive and you'll never survive. You know what, I don't think. So that's one minute just

walking into the market, Mark. I also have some more um reunion tea. During the reunion, um, he kept Rue kept calling Layla McQueen Lila McQueen the whole time, and then they had to re record. They were all gone and Ru had to stay and re record Ueen he'd be called her Lila the whole time, and um, that's why,

like she doesn't get that much. And she's also like like making weird face of all time because it's like her name is being mispronounced that Layla McQueen like being like the featured deest of first they all love her. She SUPs. She's like a fun hot mess. They she's actually very fun, but she's also a hot mess. So it's like, if that's your ship, it's not gonna translate. I totally believe she's probably better than the show indicated,

but I don't think she's good. But I would Aaron, if you want to go for Ginger, I thing you can elevate it. Yeah, I think you'll do. It's just hard because we've all, like I've written jokes with people in this room about Ginger, so it just feels hard. I really let the brain go. See what you know. Alright, ready, ready for the clock, say something right us. First one, I apologized for speaking ell of anyone. Here we go,

one minute on the clock, starting now. I don't think so. Honey, Ginger man, you walk in, you say you're a comedy queen. You said not one funny joke. Your jokes were laughy taffy. The only good joke you ever had was when you were that cow and you talked about like I want to grow up and be made a leather purse, because that's track, that's the versus. Your other jokes were like and move over, honey, and that is laffy taffy. You

have to push, honey, and you were not pushing. You were drawing on your head with a sharp be honey. I don't think so, honey. I saw you on some random Wow of wonder Um YouTube show and you looked green in the phase like you were about to vomit. Your makeup was ra ball. I don't think so, honey. You were spokes loved by gay people everywhere, and I do not get it. I got in a fight with a bar about how Violet was better than you, and I really would have punched the guy in the face.

I didn't understand anything. I was like, she was not funny. Violet was so good. I don't think so, honey. You were bad at fashion, you were bad at comedy. You're singing was okay and honestly was okay. But you were a whiner. You were a diner. I gotta get out of you. I don't think so, honey. I don't want to see a guy I will say, I'm going to come for you about attacking her fashion. She was so bad. It might have been a little basic. It wasn't bad. It was bad. It was like it wasn't it wasn't

Nasha Lopez in a barrel corset. Well, that's what I was about to say. She just looked like a plain average tract when she had to make her own ship. It was maybe I'm forgetting because she was terrible. That was really bad. When they had the tits together, her new delusion, no thingusion terrible. Didn't she do good at the half man half woman? Everyone did everyone that That was kind of annoying because it's like, no one's going to do that bad, Like for that only reason, that

was a thing that Pearl could just keep surviving. I think, like, here's a man. We gotta capitalize on the fact that this is a hot fucking dude. Yeah. I don't think they made them so men's clothing, which is hard to do for fashion designers into a dress. I don't think. I think they were given for a lot of those challenges. They're given garment, yeah, or wigs, even for those like sides. I was like Georgie said, drink the Empire challenge. They

gave them like wigs. Her wig was following. Here's a question. If you put all the miss congenialities in a drag race together two winds, it's bend la Creme, Latreceta simply Pandora box and who was like, no, no, no, you sorry it wasn't Joy And did they do miss Congeniality season one? I don't know, was it Nina Flowers? Flowers? And then wait did we skip win oh? Ivy Winters II. I Latrise could have won the show, honestly, think that's the weirdest not in the final three of any same

s UM much weirder than totally. I think Latrise could have one. It just depends on how strong I think. I think Latrise maybe wins against Um, yes, just because that I love Violet, but that was her season to win. I just literally involuntarily pictured Latrise eating Violet. Cool. That's a good image. Should we move on to the lassure of the week. I think it's a chime for culture of the week right now, for for casual viewers listeners, um, culture of the Week, I need a reminder action. Culture

of the Week is actually really um. It's where we really die of deep into the reaches of culture and we we we swim out there and we swim down UM and grab the shell that is our favorite piece of culture. We get back up to the surface. We um have the shell over the water, and we say this to the sky and we apply new criticism. The sun beats down on us on the shell and it shines and everyone on land can see it. I I get it now. So we're going to do that with

culture now. And I don't know, Bowen, do you have an idea of what your favorite culture? And um, you know what, I'll keep it. I'll keep it short, okay, but um, it's got to be the line. The line for it A small world because you're seeing a huge part of the ride. I'm sorry you can see so much of the ride while you're on the Yeah, I love that. And you're really mentally preparing yourself for what visually is in store for you. Absolutely, and you know

you're getting you're getting a lot of culture. You're getting a lot of culture. It's literal, literal culture from in the world. You start off with what a Scandinavia? No, okay, well you know what I'm just gonna say. It's some nondescript European people are in over overalls and like little hats with feathers. Beautiful and how did the song go? It's a world of laughter, a world of tears, A world of something, a world of fears, world of wonder. Maybe it's a small world up. They needn't re record

the song. I think, just with me doing it, it's a small world. I think one of them has yes, like on the Disney Channel, like Imagination Tina. Actually Aaron has such a gift for naming characters. Absolutely, this is this is literally the first time we ever met. And you don't remember this, but we did the Rug Show and we were placed on the same team. We were We did remember we were in a car together. We were in a car together and we were doing a scene where you had like picked me up off the

Internet or something. Yeah, And I eventually was like, what's your name? And and he goes, my name's Trash and I was like, And then it was a quick edit. I think. I think, I think like Pat Rigan edited. Thank god. Was that really the first time we met? That was before that I knew you? Did we first meet at Story Pirates? No, that's you guys first met that that Now we went out to the club that when first, but at Cotillion or at training. I met you a Cotillion, not because I wasn't in your year.

I was the year after you and I famously were the same year and then, and yes, I knew I had known you years prior because so popular entering. I thought he was an old pirate. That is not true. Else, Yes, I remember you came in the room when you were late, and everybody like cheered and stuff and people knew you and I was like, oh, I guess he's an old part here for a trainer. Remember I used to watch in cage match years ago with his team boy Butter because that he was on a team with David was

on that team. Yes, Riley love legends. Matt. What's your what's your culture of the week? Oh? My culture of the week. Well, I've really been thinking about it and I think that my culture of the week is actually the restaurant UM in parts of the Caribbean that you can sit at and watch as the boats go by. Love. The reason I love this is, um, this is a Disneyland in not disney World. Yeah, you know Anaheim honey, and not Anaheim honey. Everyone when you visit Anaheim, you

have to go to Disneyland. You have to. Um. I like it because I like to we know you're visiting, but you know you're a girl when you do girl. Um, I love two things, eating and anticipation. And oh my god, that's totally what. You went too far with that one really think of that was on the mic. I didn't even say it out loud. We really might have well anyway, No, I just want to talk about the restaurant because it is my time, so I just want to make sure that I get my time. Um. I remember had a

really good meal there. I had something called like a Bayou burger or whatever. I sat there. It's it's really nice and I really enjoyed it. He cares, Who fucking cares? You cannot get your life. You can't. You can't even get your sweetie, sweetie, you cannot get your life. You can't even get your life. Enough time to let me sit here and do my fucking segment. Honey. I was asking the you had passed it, and then I had, and then you don't take it back? Relay works bit, Honey.

I was throwing it to you, Honey, I was giving you don't you don't throw the relay baton you pass it? You know what. That's enough of that. I think that's I think it's clear that you can't even get your life. Not I but not even a hand it to you like a relay baton you drop that I'm not the one calling for edits calling for things to be cut out of this episode. I feel very attacked. Oh my god, they're totally Bianca. Like I'm just a stranger. Don't tell him to go right to his head. Can I say

I have a memory about that restaurant? Is this your culture is just a quick content. I would ride that ride and always hear the forks and knives clanking and went before you go down the drop. And I was like that restaurant is every thing, and wanted to go for years. And then we got to go and was like ten and truly was like I was at per Se. It was like I was there. Did you go to you a Disney kid? I didn't go all the time,

but I went concernative radio host. He's like, over, um, I went a bunch of times, not a bunch of times, but we oh, I go twice a year. Yeah. I wasn't like that. I loved Disney to this day. No, I I love and you know what you're serious? Oh my god, you know it would be so fun as if we all go. It was so we had to fill an honor, to be a part of that canon legacy, to be involved. We were thinking about one night, and

then there's Henry person. Henry really good. Alright, So, Aaron, your culture this week and it should be anything, anything, whatever you want. Um, I'll have to say my true

culture the week. I guess I'll just give it to Reality TV because it's been the Drag Race finale, which I don't know if any of you listening caught that, but the drag Race finally was this week, and also the niche episode yet also the Survivor finale is Wednesday, and I know no one cares about that, but anyone who knows me is I am a huge talking to my friend Blair Beacon and you're a Sunline yes, yes, I guess, communicated on the Facebook dot com yes, And

oh my god, I have some stuff that I can't even I cannot say on the mic about next season of Surviving. Someone someone on next season of Surviving. We'll tell you. You know, you know her or him or him? It's her him, My god. So my culture of the week is Reality TV. Thank you Survivor. That more importantly, thank you drag Race, but thank you finale. Thank you finale. Never We'll never forget Richard Hatch first, Kelly Wigglesworth. Oh that was so good. That is true iconic. We'll never

forget Klobe Donaldson versus Tina west On. So in high school, we all I had sixteen friends, we all picked someone before the season started and would light candles and in the end of every episode blow it out and I was coldy. So I made it all the way to finale. Oh my god. Also, you know what, never forget ve Sepia Towering rule number one, forget Sepia Towery, literally Vesepia Towery. Forgot ve Sepia Towery until you just said her name.

I'm about I'm about to be like taking a take or leave this, But I remember, no one could figure out why ve Sepia had one. She like even she was like clueless, like it was like she wanted. Everyone was like what I remember, they all have to go and like talk about the like feelings they had, and she was like, I just learned, like don't throw away the end of a piece of the end of a

loaf of bread. Then then then were they were like Sepia talked to us about your strategy and she was like, well, um, there were times when I would, you know, mix it up a little bit, and you gotta do that, you gotta mix it up, and I would, I would make people think they were a leader, and they were. And then I want it was early surviving that you offered me the choices to take it or leave it, and I'm gonna take it. What you just said, I'm gonna

take it. You know what I'm gonna take from you, what I'm gonna demand from How is your culture of the week? Oh yes, well, guys, James Blake's new album, I really do think is a full realization of what he does. It's not as um, it's it's vast. Some people think there's too much to it, but every song to me really is like hitting the spots that I think he should be. But that's not my culture of

the week. I would say, when you're on sore in California, um, by the world, let me just tell you quick before it changes. One fun thing to do is going there with a golf ball in your pocket and when you're soaring over that golf course, hold on, hold on. When you're soaring over that golf course and they you see the guy you see the guy and he's swinging that golf You reach your hand out with a golf ball and you yell, caught it. That is fun. Can people

freak the funk out? People are laughing at you heard this from You have not done that. They are Aaron Anaheim and you're in Anaheim. You do what you pull the trick. My favorite part about store and if you're gonna be in Anaheim, you better bring your tricks to Okay, and guess what you can get go off alls in Anaheim to that. That's rule number three hundred seventy five culture. When you're in Anaheim, your tricks. Listen. My favorite part about store in California is the smell of the oranges.

Oh I love the smell of the oranges. Can you know soon I had to remove headphones. It's gonna be the first time, you know. I got a note from my producers that said I was too loud, and now I've been louder Um. I have some tea. Spill about Orlando theme parks. If you guys spill about Disney watching him? So okay, so listen, you are getting louder, but I'm getting more excited. At the end of the day, Like this is what I really always want to talk about.

It's like Disney. I'm a big Disney head. Oh I didn't even talk about culture that shape me would be like that Ashman mankin era absolutely and classics rend is renaissance does so anyway, Okay, so listen coming soon, like what I mean soon to Epcot. It's been real being Oh my god, we're talking about Orlando. It we're talking about Orlando, honey. And guess what did it ever really make sense for scoring over California? No? What did it? And you know what the powers that be it was

over California and Orlando. What a terrible idea for what's a great But it's like, we're just gonna we're gonna go over California. What nonsense? Who cares? So basically they're turned it into sord over the so smart. I love that that's Disney. That's a Disney. That's a Disney. I love that's also and also that bird is, you know, flying around the whole world writer door. Also coming to Epcott. Oh yes, girl, here we go. Ever after, it's a flume ride hunting and it places you in the world

of Frozen in what park is this. There was a ride called Maelstrom, which was a retelling of the history of Norway. I had to say Epcot, which is great. It had a learning curve to her. Okay, so I literally Malstrom. They had to replace it though, because it was a story of Norway. But it was literally like you take a flume ride into some woods, you go up a vertical thing, a three headed troll which sends you back. Then all of a sudden you open out

and it's like about oil tanks. It's like, but in Norway, they do believe that ship for real, like that. They're my people are Norwegian. They're big on like fairies and trolls, and they're like, yeah, that's three he's saying, that's fine, it's the oil he's but you were saying, is it fantasy or is it real? To them, they are real, Okay, So that part of their culture. The trolls existed in the same world as the oil tank. That is a part of their culture. And I understand. I'm sorry, I

was wrong. You were talking about the matter horn with the Abombino snowman. Oh, yes, you're right. I conflated those. I just din't remember I remember doing that because my granddad is Norwegian. He's like, we have to go on this and you were like, this one more little piece of tea over our friends over at Universal. Yes, so Skull Island, good friends of the Skull Island. Reign of Kong will be opening up this summer trackless and this

is not an Anaheim. This is Indo or Los Angeles. Joe, Home of the Free, Home of the Min's, Home of the Brave. And you know Gingerman is going to be at the opening of Skull Island Reign of Kong. She's one of the Skull. She's gonna be one of the old beat because she was one of the Skull. Truly feel bad coming. I just feel bad. She was just trying to do her art and people like her. You know, I'm just saying alloud, guys. What we're gonna get is we're gonna get three sixty three D screens that you

actually move on. It's a trackless, seventy two person vehicle, and each one that's gonna be four has its own story depending on the animatronic figuring out striving. And they say the guides the guide's hole ripped out of the thing by King Kong himself. By an animatronic hand for the guide will be there at the beginning and then afterwards. Guy, I love that it's going to be very Jaws, right,

very Jaws. It's going to be very interactive. Apparently there's live actors in the ride, at which I always love a live actor. I mean you are one. Yeah, it's good. More work. What's going more work? What's going word Jaws? Well, first of all, you know, because I know Jaws that you were black for a year. I was very upset, and you know, a couple of us, a couple of us. I wanted to be a georget very badly. In fact, you know what understanding, Matt and I have been developing

a show for many years. It's about we need to get started, throw it on stage. Developing for many years. I have really started the whole like six minutes we've talked. I do, I know, I know what I'm off book on the right, and I'm attached to direct. Josh's attached to direct. It's gonna be called Matt Roger's Great Adventures Deadline dot Com. Okay, give it this, and I'm just saying, rest in peace, Jaws. But now, what's happening with the Jaws ride. Well, it's it's fully green goots. Now, oh

I got my life? Yeah, but David mazzon Greens so sorry. Is a bank in the Harry Potter World and now they've made a ride. So the fun thing about the bank is to get to your safe. There's a lot going on in a Goblin to write turns, write a dragon. Yuess who's in the ride? Guess who's like the main villain in the ride? Bottom Harder your Life? Oh my god, I loved that. Helen the bottom Carter. That's great, and you know what you're placing Twister is the night Show

with Jimmy fallon the ride that's stupid. But in the world of Jurassic World, yes, I have to say I well, I got my life at Harry Potter World. But I was so excited to write Jurassic Park. I heard about it for years. They were exposed wires that a referee, especially a Jurassic World out I think miss I think that you will seeventially with the Jurassic World sequel, which is happening, which I don't know what. I couldn't be more excited. We saw it was a reason for Jurassic World.

I have a question for you guys, And honestly, I understand that we need to end this, but this is something I feel really strongly about because I was very conflicted, and Sudie and I when we saw this, we turned to each other and said, what Jurassic World. Jurassic World. The scene don't come from my girl laptus No, I'm not going to was the best part. My dad said that he didn't who she was. When I was explaining, he was like, oh, that was the best part of

the movie. She was her little laugh line. I agree that. Famously. We took to see Si. She as a man to do stick. Okay, well, never about our read. Well, he saw Si as the man. Did you stand up? That's what I wanted to say. He thought that was slow, but you already said it. We took her. I ran, I ran into the shares. I made it tonight at an audition, and she's well loves to share. My dad loves this share. My dad loves live comedy. I love life.

As soon as you said the sand, I wasn't going to finish it, but you knew there was going to be a nag. Has He's been concerned about the nags that all this whole time. Neither you can get you. I feel Aaron and I are very attacked. Did you not edit this thing at all? You just put it out? Well, why would you edit it? Every podcast you edit? You don't know this one needs because it's a little on the long side. But I of course took it into this zone by needing to talk about my Orlando. Yeah. Wait,

what were you going to the Jurassic World thing? Well, Jurassic World, you know it's getting a sequel, hopefull labell see Bryce Stallas back. But I want to do Bryce Styllis Howard. The ride is what I'm saying. Whatever everyone puts on heels and outruns the t rex. What is this question that you so, I'm saying, I think you might see Jurassic Park the section theme park get more.

And they've been saying, actually, the land opened and there was plans to do a Jurassic Park jeep adventure, which would have been state of the art, but they already had the Jurassic Park to ride the water version from Hollywood, and they just said, you know what, let's just cut the cost of creating something new and transplanet so many other Rule number six of culture you can, and they have learned that with Harry Potter World if you invest, as Dave A. Mazzoni said after we got out of

Greens for grets in one of the classic lines, So the Jurassic World ride, that's what I said you to Okay, okay, okay. Jurassic World the movie, the part where the British Lady gets the British Lady gets fucking and there's like a thirty five to forty twond like scene where she gets really really killed. You could almost I'm not throwing rape around, but it's like it truly like it's torture. It was torture, and what are our thoughts about that? Earned No, I

hated it. I thought, why don't you kill Vincent din Afria? That he was the movie, that he was. All she had ever done in the movie was like be on a cell phone And I was like what And then they're like kill. I feel like I do think like maybe they edited out some stuff where she was like really a bit to the kids, you know what I mean? Oh no, no, no, Everything about movies and especially movie deaths, is the character has to always if it's a villain

or like anything like that. The characters should always deserve

the punishment. Again, Lady in the Water, there's this flimsy thing where there's this character who's a movie critic and you're supposed to hate him, and it's right at the points him Knight's career was, you know, quaking, and so he puts this character in who's like, I'm a critic of movies and I ain't't get it, and you as the audience are just supposed to supposed to hate this guy and they've given you nothing other than that, And they literally cut out stylistically to this scene where the

monster is killing him and it goes into like monster vision. It's the only time they do in the whole movie, and he like hunts him down and devours him, and it's supposed to be like a moment. The whole place is just like what you can You can't kill Bob, the most lovable person to watch. Yeah, you love I'm protecting. It was like so sadly refererential, self referential. You know what movie character that didn't die in a movie would

you kill horribly? I say Misgeist from Clue, And I'm just kidding what I thought, Oh my god, I didn't die in a movie. Who didn't die in a movie? Honestly, I think the old man should have died at the beginning of up to like, just letting him and the wife die and let that boy run around. You were that boy, that bird boy with that dumb talking dog run around, Doug the dog with the memory. If you're going for a movie, I say, they killed Lucifer the cat in Cinderella, But I think you could go for

the stepmother. Yeah, they should have killed her. You could go from the socked um they should have killed. They don't kill Cruella, which is good. Yeah, you don't want you don't want Cruella down? Oh you want her to bring her back? Give me? They made it. It's terrible. I know they should have killed Did you like live action? Is it bad? I don't remember the Glen Close one. You know what I listened to today three times? Glenn Close sing as if we never said a good bye. Beautiful.

She's an amazing singer. But wait, you've seen her. You've seen her national anthem. That's so bad as no, the national anthem you have it. It's very bad. But Glen Close is a beautiful singer, and it was just a bad moment, but it is it is like you will laugh and watch it ten times in a row because it's so funny. But yeah, we must. You know what, guys, I think with that suggestion, I think that it might be time to put a cap in this episode. Um,

Josh sharpern Aaron, what do you guys? What do you guys have coming up that you want people to All Stars too? I'm gonna be on All Stars to Josh Sharper is gonna be Repel's Drags All Stars? When's the next gay show? July? Second? Second? Second? I highly recommend that one of the best shows in the city. I love it. We both but when and I have both been guests. Yes, had a lot of fun on the show. Stop been so fun. I met my I met my

boyfriend on that. That's true. The wonderful Henry Koperski Henry cooper Sky on the Keys dot com any any any comman announced the line up yet don't now you're still getting frank really famously do not have it at this moment? Wonderful. You know what I love about that show is it's like they have like probably too, like a gay comics or whatever, and then like one like Emerging Day, and I like, that's our only rule is no straight man love it. I love that rule. I want to keep me.

We want beer, swimming and gay dot check it out July second, Saturday. I love that it's on Saturdays now and on Sunday nights because I work on sundaynights. Okay, guys, this has been the last Culture Reasons podcast. As always, my name is Matt Dame is yang bitch And let me tell you something. We had Josh Ivan, Aaron Jackson, and we're gonna We're gonna serve to be eaten by

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