"Queendom" (w/ Vanessa Bayer)

coping cocktails last night. Hell fucking yeah. First of all, let me just raise a fist and say, hell yeah, hell yeah, fucking right, far h y f r. What were the cocktails? You know? First I started off with the bourbon, and then miss Chloe Kardashian came up to me and she said, why are you drinking that? That's so sad? Drink Champs with me, shut the funk up. And then okay, I'm sorry. That was like my seamless way of slipping in that like him through a party

and it was really lovely. Um and Chloe came over you almost like, don't drink sad bourbon, drink happy shamps. Chloe Good Nights was like slay can we We had to give it up for Chloe and let me just say the whole Kardashians, they're an industry. Wow, they really made they made so much lemonade out they really did. Honestly,

let me just be real, please. The lay person would sort of um ascribe Kim's success to a piece of revenge porn like her like having to like having to like deal with that that is insane to think about. Like here, I am standing a billionaire. I apologize that it's fully dissonant with my values, but like she's like but truly all weeks she was so across the board. Everyone was like, Wow, she's really great, and I just I'm so delighted, and the and the Kardashians were wonderful.

Was Chris Chris was there, Chris was a Good Nights with Us. Chris turns to me and goes, you're so funny. I love watching you. Wow, good Chris. That's that's not that's not no. That was a really good Chris. That was almost as good as Selma Blair's Cris. That was That was a Lisa Barlow sort of you do you do a Lisa? We can't be heartbroken right now. I'm heartbrok. I'm literally I'm literally heartbroken right now right now. I'm

so upset Andrew, what area you're my friend, Kilo. But we it's like so embarrassing, like it's like when we had It's like literally like when we had cecily on and I listened to it after and I was doing my Ramona opposite Hardemona, and I'm like, I literally was listening. I was like, Matt, shut up. There's an icon impressionist right there. Shut up. So I to do my Lisa when we're not you are? I owe my fucking life too. Gearst Gears, you have you have. You are the queendom.

You are the queendom. So can we just talk about the fact how topical we are because previously on Lost Cultures this first of all, we have bestowed Adele with the Queen Queendom Award, the Lost Cultur Award, Queendom Award. So it's the first award we've given out in the l c c A S. And it wasn't one that we announced, but we did sort of reveal that the honorary Award, it's like the Gene Herschel Humanitarian Oscar for

the Lost culture, this golden globe. I'm sorry, No, we've fallen out of favor with the Golden The Golden Clube have fallen out of our favor. But it's like, we give the Queendom Award, then this happens. I'm getting chills, Mama when I tell you. I was watching the Insta Alive live and turned it off and then this happened. Oh my god, this will be so powerful. Never sounded better the way I'm already somehow, the tone is even more pure than it has been in the past. Never

sounded this healthy. This this pre chorus, what a beautiful build release, I mean, and then she stopped. She stops it right at the course Queendom Award. I mean you said this. You and I FaceTime, had a long, lovely FaceTime on Friday, and it's important to catch up with sisters when you're not on Mike or on Live off Mike, when it gets real. Sometimes I feel like our friendship we need those intimate moments where you know there aren't

ears and eyes in the room. More intimacy now. But it's actually really culture number seventeen more now world culture number nine. You said you said to me, uh, we did you aready say a number? I'm sorry, it's both. It's both what did you say. I don't think you said seventeen and sorry It's okay, It's both. It's crazy how this woman just knows exactly what we need. Literally, like she occupies a space that I don't even understand, Like how no one else is doing this. Like look,

I'm just gonna say this. I love Kelly Clarkson more than anyone on this planet. Why why are we getting another Christmas album? I guess that's my thing is. It's just like, please God, Like I just want a regular album because I know she was so raw lately and I know she was writing so much. I just want to hear that album because I know she could be giving like this, but she's fresh. She think about this.

Adele's is coming out with this album when I presume will be a lot about the divorce, like years, like three years after the divorce or something like that. Kelly is freshly separated, so get Let's give her time to just date on this. Maybe she wants a Christmas oup, it's fine, let's not. I also respect the fact that she is, like, let me not just suddenly put all my feelings about my divorce into this album and then

put it out. Let me consider what I want to put out because it's actually my kids are involved, like he's involved, Like I don't know what I'll stand by, So it's or sometimes it's kind of like it's like whenever there's like a divorce and then a piece of work or like a hard time, and that's always a hart to the divorce feels raw in a way where

you're like, oh, like intruding. Yeah, everyone becomes no a bomb back it like you know, it's it's it's crazy anyway, I couldn't believe the queendom and like I I'm so excited for that. I can't even tell you thrilled. I mean we've discussed two a queen so far, kim kay, and now the third queen is of course our guests. I mean, really, she's got queen. Really the queen period, there's no queen of there's no queen at queen in like it's the queen period period which ends a sentence.

It's actually called thirty period period, which which a sentence. After that, there's nothing to say. What can we what can we say about our guests? I mean, she she had one of I think one of my most favorite ten years on SNL. She was my favorite, which is why it's always weird whenever we're like hanging out together like around and like it's crazy to like be with

like her and eight and Sudy. A few weeks ago at the Emmy's for a pre Emmy's party and we all just like met GARSTONA was like, wait, I'm what is this about? Because you know, also the guest is iconic Housewives fans sorry readers. And then um, and oh my god, I just started watching we can talk about this what we do in the Shadows and she is iconically in the was one of the bad episode. Yeah, and she's so good and I think you should leave. Um, she just had her series. Um, I love this for you.

Get ordered. I love this for you. No, I'm just saying oop, you can say it. It's been announced, honey, please six I want you to talk about it. I'm on it. First of all, start first, my sister. That's first, my sister, Matt Rogers. Yeah, I Love this for you, which will be on showtime. It is shooting very soon. Matt, what else do you want to say about our guests before we bring her on that there's a brand new pod.

How did we get weird right here on the Big Money Players Network, also presented by Our Heart Radio that she has with her damn brother Jonah, which thrill and watch the space because you might see one of your last cultures those hosts on it. Let's just say there's something in my Google cow that indicates that might be true. My god, it's time to bring in the guests. Okay, Queen the Queen, and it's important to note that we're actually giving the second Queendom Award right now to Vanessa,

the winner of the second ever Queendom Award. Please welcome into your ears, Vanessa. Oh my gosh, I'm I'm honored, I'm thrilled. I can't I can't tell you how excited I am to be here with these two queens feeling feeling against the slur. As soon as I said it, I thought, don't do that. I'm just thrilled to be here. Vanessa. You just, first of all, let's just peel back the

curtain a little bit. I was not feeling I'm not feeling great this morning, and Matt knew that, and um Sunday Saturday post Saturday, some disappointments were a foot in my own personal journey and Vanessa came on an immediately sort of like slapped a fucking ointment on my nerves and was like, it's fine. It was. It was. It was a really lovely sort of like pep talk, and I can't I can't thank you enough and truly that was so nice. Well I first of all, and I

this is when I came on. I just wanted to say, like, just the fact that you can do this on a Sunday in the days of like a Sunday where you just did a show and you have another show coming the following week, Like I just the fact that you're here to do this is so incredible. Was your typical sun I mean, I know you've probably like closed the memory book on this and like you don't want to think about it, but we don't know what were your Sundays? Like what did you usually do? By the end? What

did you do? I would sleep in. I would order in probably a big old cream cheese. What kind of cream cheese? Okay? Here here I would either be like a sesame or poppy seed bagel with regular cream cheese, or it would be um, like a raisin it is it a cinnamon raisin bagel with like some kind of like a walnut raising cream cheese. This is New York, you know, It's like you can get that. It's so good here, and now I'm in l A and it's like,

forget it. I actually do live near to bagel places, but I'm like, I'm not gonna yeah, and but I'm like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna even wait bagel. I'd order my bagel, but I would sleep in so late. I'd order a bagel and I would um, and then I think I would just like I would watch TV, and then I think I would order in dinner. Yeah,

it was an ordering moment. There's no you are just so drained physically and emotionally after a week, even if you had the greatest show of your life, like you're just in a daze on Sunday, and just the fact that you can be here and be present is incredible. How do you know if I'm present, I don't know if you aren't present. It's incredible that you're here. I don't put pressure on yourself to be present. Okay, yeah, Okay,

my gosh, that's so nice. Anyway, not to make this about me, I would I also just want to say any show you're in, You're just such a joy to see on camera. I know I said that to you earlier. It's truly like I feel safe, I feel joy, I feel I feel so happy whenever you're on camera. We are coming from the one, coming from the oh. And I guess we've got Matt Rogers over here, who's also

such a joy. Sorry, I sure truly a talent. Yeah, I'm sing here too, in the fact that, like you're like, I get to have the show where like the world gets to fucking appreciate this. Come on, Jim. Sorry, I I guess I'm so overdue. I will say this, like Sudie Green, beloved friend of all of us, is in the room, and so I was sort of like, I'm not annoying about like how the room is going, but I'm like, so, what's up, Like what's going on? Like, like how's it going? Like that? And what she gives me,

I'm like so excited. How how is it going? In your estimation? It's going really well. Our writer's room is like so obviously cut is in there and we are how grateful are we? And we're having so much fun. The only thing that you know, we have to do it over Zoom and it's like we did just have like an in person hang, and it was like everyone is so tall and gorgeous. I'm not try to tageous everybody. Well, we went through our heights before we met, because that's

the thing I think really finding. I'm like, when you meet people of resume, you just have no idea how tall they are. And I'm not everybody. I'm not trying to be like, um hightist, Like I'm not saying like it's I don't I don't care. It's just like everybody in person. It was so beautiful to see everybody, but truly, like everybody is just um, just so funny and fun.

And the fact that we've been able to have like such a fun him that I look forward to every day and and I most of these people I've only had ever met on zoom is really incredible. It's really fun, and we're writing some fairy fun stuff for your character.

If I'm excited, I can't wait. Jennifer Lewis, Well, first of all, Jennifer Lewis, I mean when we heard that, it was like I just I couldn't believe it, Like I gasped, you know what we have to do, Bowen, we have to listen to her audio books reading because you have to hear her reading. You have to hear her reading it. Yes, yeah, of course. Yeah. It's called

The Mother of Black Hollywood. It's like really good. I remember when she was on the View a few years ago, like talking about it, and it's clear like the way even Whoopie was treating her. I'm a View like historian by the way, um like, and the way Whoopie was like, Whoopy was so excited she was there, and like she just has like this star energy that's going to be so good for her part and so so exciting. And

the whole cast obviously l O L freakishly good. But you know who I was obsessed is in the run, Ali lie Begott. Oh what's her deal? Tell me both of you. Okay, she's a poet, she's an artist. She's like, she's so funny. She she um, I had never met her. Our our showrunner Jesse Klein, incredible icon. Yes, her book is so fucking we we've already talked about it's incredible. She she knew Ali from they had both written together

on Transparent, and Ali is like she's incredible. We all want to be best friends with her, like up and down. One day, Udy said to me the study was like, who do you know? Who do you think I want to be best friends that? I was like, Ali, who do you think I want to be best friends with? I just told she said something like that. I just told the whole room. I was like, you guys know, I'm going hard after being best friends with all of you. I think if we were in person, i'd go like

harder after it. But this is by the a bow and something I used to do on U S and now like whenever we would have like a host that was like kind of like around my age, like a woman kind of like close to my age. Of course I knew like I was so hard try and be their best friend, like I didn't like I would always do to scarlet your hands and when she was there, I would do it to like Anne Hathaway. I'm trying to think of, like, oh my god, I bet Ann Hathaway, you can make it work. Oh. I think I think

we definitely have each other's numbers. But it would just be like I would go so hard after these like because I would be like they're like me if I had it together, you know great? But is that how is that how it started with you and Schumer? No? You guys just like you you just did the movie.

It started a little differently with her because I literally I met Amy when I auditioned for train Wreck, and then when I did, you s so good, you literally make me laugh so much l O L. That's that's how I met Amy, And so that was like a genuine and like we became friends. But everybody else I've tried to like really force myself to be friends with them, um and I think it has. It worked a little bit, but you know, it goes so hard after them, that's okay?

Is there any shame in that? Like, I don't think there's anything. No. I think like some people would sort of like I don't know, like I think that that was uncool at the show, Like why are you trying to But it's like literally people of like had sex with hosts, Like who cares that happens? I'm but I'm saying like funking, like like you know, like not but whatever, Okay, we're listening. No, we're not cutting it out. It's actually out there that people that have come on us and

El So it's fine. There you go. Um, but that is hilarious. It's crazy that I will never I that won't happen for me. Yes, it will, it will. No, No, it hasn't. No, I'm saying that won't happen for me. And I'm okay with the big It's just different because like the only gay hosts that have come through the last three years have been and I'm like, you know, like said, there's their sisters. You know it would be we'll see who comes by. No, no, no, no no, we're

not cutting a single word of it. It's getting bleaped. Wait. I want to ask you though, because you know what I always think about is your sketch with Ryan Gosling, Like the sounds like that, like that what was doing that? Like, because it's so surreal and like it to me is like one of those things where I'm watching it and it does feel like it transcended SNL for a second and became just like insane like cinema with you and Ryan like and also is such a vibe and so hot,

like oh my god. Well, first of all, you know Jeremy Bailer, who's co creator of I Love This and King of all tal and gorgeous people. He's the king of all tall and gorgeous people. He's he's a gorgeous by the way, I just want to say, like I'm not I feel like there's a lot of gorgeous short like I'm I'm just saying our room happens to be tall and gorgeous. But that's not what you said. You said you said you called them all trolls. And then

he's the middle finger to the zoo. I did. I gave the middle finger to the zoom as I love to do, as I keep doing. Um. We wrote that. He I mean, I love Ryan Gosling so much. He, Jeremy and I had that idea. We were like, let's write this thing. We wrote it. Um. I remember we pitched it to Ryan Gosling because we were like, wouldn't this be so funny? I think I think in the in the pitch, I had pitched like, what if you and I play a couple and we think that Santa

is real? I think that was like the pitch maybe hate or something. I don't even remember exactly. So we pitched it to him that we were this couple who goes to this party and we think that Santa Claus is real, and he was like we were kind of like telling him, like it gets maybe we're like a little I can't remember exactly, but maybe we're a little

like scary about it or whatever. He was like. I remember him saying, he was like it should be like Ryan was like, it should be like, um, maybe kind of natural born killers like he in something else, and we were like, yes, totally. I remember the day we were filming it. I remember talking to you know, Jill Bream, who's the Costume Dream of Costume head. She's amazing, She's incredible, and I remember her being like, Vanessa, are you nervous? And I was like, no, I'm doing good. I'm excited

to film this. And and then um, I remember it was just asking you if you're well, because I think I was like is this is this just this good? Like I was just like very nervous because I knew it was going to be very intimate with Ryan all day and um, and I mean we wrote it that way. But then I remember we started filming it and he was so funny and the way that we had written it just just for for the listeners to hear, like it's like we basically it's like Ryan and I want

to meet Santa. Claus Beck's character is like is like he's coming Santa's coming down soon to like a child, and we think like, oh, that's real, like real Santa's coming down soon, and it's just back planning to dress up as Santa. Then Ryan has this confrontation with him where he's like, we're Beck's like, well, it's not the real Santa to us and Beck and Ryan has has this confrontation where he's like, what the funk, like we want to meet Santa. We at no point wrote that

he yells. But while we were y Ryan starts screaming a fact and like what the fuck is Santa and or whatever? I think. He screams, oh, I know what it is. He goes like something about his slayer or something, and then he goes and by like Santa doesn't have a slay or something. And then Ryan goes like, well, then, how the fund did he get here or something? I

don't know exactly what it is. And then Ryan proceeds to all improvised take this like huge candy cane it's filled with eminem's and just slam it down to on the table so that it breaks and like this is all Ryan improvising, and he was so funny. It was really it was so incredible and we were all just like watching him just being like, oh my god, like it was so it was just incredible, and he was so on board and he was it was just like

he's just like the dream of dreams, like an actor down. Yes, yes, but and if fully realized Dwayne a way that like is not does not hamper in an unhampered way, you know, like he can do it all. Yes, Like I'm so jealous of people like that. And he a couple of

times like picked me up like I we would. We filmed this thing where like we're dancing, like I come onto the table, he like picks me up, and I remember like feeling like, oh my god, I can't believe he can pick me up, because you know, especially when you're essentially so strong and like, you know, I was eating a lot of that like niepies. I don't think he's gonna be able to pick me up. But well, he's so big and strong in a movie star. He's

so strong. They can afford trainers such peak physical shape in order to really continue to work at the level that they are, because all of a sudden wasn't big and strong. I don't know that his career would continue the way it does. That's say nothing of his talent. That's just the way the talented, kind, strong, strong man.

Which wait, now I'm laughing because I'm thinking about you being intimate with other hosts, and now I'm thinking of the Kristen Stewart's huntin the finale of Totino's she was Sabine and you guys like have that gorgeous, like intimate sketch together where you finally like feel seen. Oh my god, that was such a fun The fact that we got to do like three Totinos. I guess we always did them around the super Bowl. It's one of the best recurring thing. I was always a round the super Bowl.

It was one of the best recurring things I think the show has ever done. So nice. We it was so it was like I wrote those with Chris and Sarah and we like I think it was initially like I just kind of wanted to do something about those super Bowl commercials and those women who are like my hungry guys, you know, and then they like took it and ran and so we did the Super Bowl activity pack, and then the next year and the next year was

something spooky. It was like a horror thing. We turned into a commercial for the X Files for bringing back and then the last year it was like the thing where they we addressed like how like my character has no name and it's just like a woman woman who kind of lives to feed her hungry guys totinos and um. Christian Kristen like wanted to fuck you and on her coverage It's crazy. She was very on board. I was

very important. It was it was incredible. I mean it was like, I mean, I have I gotten to like make out with the hottest hosts that have come to SNL. You have you really have? Vanessa? Can I can I just point out something and I'm sure you've heard this before, but I think something that is so like essential to like a lot of things you've done on and a lot of things that you've done outside of it is the sense so weird. But it is like I think of Laura Parsons, I think of Jacob the Vermin spa boy.

It's like it's your mouth, It's you have this perfect smile, so radiant and bright. But then you know how to control it and use it depending on the choice or the character, and it's so effective and powerful. And like you and said, like, have people told you that, like commented on your mouth specifically? I get, I mean, I get a lot. I've never had my smile broken down in that way, but and I really do, I really do appreciate it because I think is so weird. So

it's not weird at all. It's actually, um, I'm I'm, it's I'm registering it. And I do think that that's I do think. I mean, I think like my Miley Cyrus impression is like so helped by the fact that we have almost the same mouth. Like it's like I've always known that, you know, But it is like I've always known that since she was a little girl. I said, I have the same mouth as that kid, she said to me. Somehow we this came up that we both

get lipstick on her teeth very easily. And it's I think the reason I don't want to speak for her but I want to speak for me is like I think part of the reason, um my smile is the way that it is is because I like just have the slightest bit of a over. I used to have like true buck teeth when I was little, and I wore bracest for a long time. But um, anyways, do you what a little narcissist I am that. I'm like, let me take you through the boring details. No, that No,

that makes you who you are. I brought it up. I brought up your smile. I think that I I think that I wore my retainer for just post braces for just short enough that this is how things settled. Yeah. Same, I mean like I stopped wearing my retainer around for the third week and I'm like I never went back. Yeah, it's so it's crazy. Did you have to wear nightgear? Did you have to wear the thing at night? No? But now this dentist I went to is telling me.

He like looked at my express he was like, you're grinding your teeth when you sleep? Did you know that? I was like no, And he's like, you have to I might have to tell you to wear a night guard. And I'm like, I have a night guard. But here's the here's the secret about nightguards. You get them and you never wear them, but you feel you feel proactive that you have one, Like mine is next to my bed and I wore it. I think the last time I wore it was probably seven months ago, and I

work for one night. Good for you, I mean, good for you for even trying. Are you guys getting to this? It must be an age thing. I there are many more things I have to do, the much more maintenance that I have to do in order to get to get to bed. I gotta do like I gotta put on the white noise. I gotta put on the eyemask. I gotta like pillars have to be a certain way. I'm like, oh, I'm going crazy, Like it's this hard

for me to fall asleep. This is bad. No. I think that you like to be comfortable and like often have a lot on your mind, and that is you know. I thought you were going to say, like as you get older, like do you need to do more things in order to like feel like you need to maintain health and like, well, it's especially with skin, Like after I moved to l A, It's like it's so dry here. Now I have to do it's a it's a twenty

minute process f skin. I had such an allergy thing when I moved here to like it's just like different air. It's different air. It's actually real culture number forty. It's different, different air, it's different us. Oh my god, am I allowed every guest to join us. When the guest joins in, it actually makes the rule of super rule. And so that means that that means that it's it's a it's

the super world is a little bit more. But what I wanted to say, um, like anyway, like before we get into the new pot and the culture that made you say culture was for you? Was I in working on the pilot with you? Like obviously I've always like like just loved you from like your sketch work and also getting to hang out with you and work with you on Shrill like you were so funny in that part. By the way, Vanessa thought Vanessa thought I was an

entertainment reporter. Well, okay, here's what happened. Remember you guys that interviewed me and Phoebe and going in for uture fast We did do that in fact, and then and then um, you like you were like in the car and you were wearing like a very cute I was wearing like a suit, and I turned to her we were going over there, and Vanessa's in this like blond Wig. And I turned to her and I go, hey, I'm mat We actually met when I interviewed you at Vulture Fest.

I'm friends with Study and I'm friends with Bowen, And she was like, oh, yeah, well hi, And you could tell that she kind of thought that. I was like, and I'm here to like shadow the set, like and you guys had to share the car together. I fully thought like he was there to do a story. I'm just like arriving to the shrill set in a fucking to write a piece. Then I found out who he was and that he was a brilliant actor. He's a

co star now. Anyway, what I'm getting. What I'm getting at is like, um, in doing the show with you, I'm really so excited for everyone to see it. Like obviously, you know, for reasons. I think the show was great.

I'm excited to be on it. But what I really am excited about is I feel like it's going to show everyone like this completely other skill set you have, Like we shot this scene at the end of the pilot, like not without giving too much away, like where I was just watching you when I was like really on the verge of tears, I was just like you're just so good and you so deserve to have like this, like starring vehicle. I feel like everyone's like it's about time.

And then I'm just so excited to be a part of it and also to eventually trap the entire cast and start to have Housewives viewing parties. It's a housewives cast. It's that true housewives cast, I mean big housewives cast. I feel like a bit like everyone's a every Molly obsessed, famously obsessed um and aid you and i Aiden could get into it. I mean, if she's not until we're getting her in, and if Jennifer Lewis isn't into it, you gotta get she's gonna love it. I want to

hear her. I want to hear her take. I want to hear her take so badly. But you were making me laughtering that scenes so much. I remember you were That was one that was very fun. That was fun. But I literally I'm just so I'm just so like blown away by you, and like I can't worry. I just did in the show was so different from any other things, and it's just so great and I'm I'm so excited. Well, you're so funny in the pilot and

I can't wait. I mean, I still remember your audition where you like did this thing with your eyes when you're offended, and you went like and obviously the listener can't see, but you like did this thing with your eyes where you were like expressing so much by just like opening and closing them in such a specific way. You were like, and it was I had never seen anyone do that before. I was like, oh my god. We had a little fun We had a fun little um audition together when I came in and we got

to improvise together. We got to improvise. But this is a beautiful comedy acting tip for Vanessa, it's the smile. For Matt, it's the eyes. I don't know what it is for me, but you know, everyone, find your one feature and find your body part that works best and like use it more. So. I guess that would be my tip for everyone out there that's that's listening to the podcast is if you want to be an actor, really lean into which body part is number one on you and make it work for them. You know what

I mean? Yeah, exactly, So see what I'm doing sort of like that, and that I wouldn't have book it was about the eyes and that audition exactly exactly. I think it's time to ask the question. This is a big question. The question is Vanessa Bayer, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Okay? I thought a lot about this. I hope, so, I fucking hope so, okay invited you here at least I can do. Okay, I want to kind of go through

my thought process with you. I UM, I was thinking, you know, when I was little, I was like a little performer, and I really loved you know, what's love got to do with it? My Tina Turner. I really loved Like a Virgin by Madonna. I would I would pair it these songs a lot, even though I didn't really fully understand their meanings. Um. Listening to Dave Holmes, I thought, yeah, I really loved Annie too, and I um, as you can imagine, when I was younger, I had

short hair and got a lot of um comments. You know a lot of people would say looked like orphan any um. Not to brag, but so, but then I was really thinking beautiful, one of the most beautiful one

in the world. I really was like, what really is like the moment, like the moment, okay, and what I think it is the audition scene in Flashdance and a Flashdance when she goes into do her dance audition, the Irene Kara Kara What a Feeling And she goes in there, and I remember watching it several times with my mom and she Um, she goes to do her dance audition. She's it's like a room full of executives. It's the

most unfriendly looking room. Um, they're just watching her. It's like almost like it's like a dark kind of business e looking room away. Our audition room would never look away. An audition room would never It's like an it's like a wood floor, like it's not a room meant for dance. And she goes in there and she puts her her What a Feeling record into the record player and she starts to dance and she falls and she says, can

I go again? And then she starts the song again and she proceeds to do the most beautiful, exciting dance and the and the auditors are going crazy. They're having the time of their lives. She's having the time of her life. And she clearly got into the school or what it was undisputable. She runs out, she's so excited because she got it. I to me, I mean, I remember I had that cassette tape. This really aging me.

I had that cassette tape, and I remember as a kid like making up dances to like all of the all of the all of the songs on that cassette, especially what a feeling, and just like that to me is that's the moment that I was like, Oh, this is for me. This is the perfect answer, because you can tie it back to you actually being inspired to replicate what was happening in the movie. You were you were activated by it. That's amazing, so activated. She was

such an underdog. She went in she didn't have the same training as everybody else, and there she was winning over everybody's hearts. But what she brought was raw power and raw talent, and she brought the intent when she went in there, she said, there's no way I'm not getting into this program. I'm getting it. How did it make you feel like? Did it say? Did you sort of think like that was when you got really excited

just just audition. I just I feel like I just felt like she she deserves to be there, and she got there, and I think, I don't know, it made me just feel so things. Things do, things do work out. Things did make me And you know, I guess in some ways. I mean later my life, when I was living in Chicago and auditioning for commercials and stuff. Guess what I liked auditioning? You know, you always get it. Did you ever listen to what a feeling before big auditions?

M think about that. Can I tell you something that is so deeply embarrassing before auditions when I lived in Chicago and possibly before I auditioned for us, and know this is so embarrassing. I can't believe that you have to say it because then I'm gonna tell you what song I listened to before things, and it's going to be more embarrassing, and I'll tell you my mind's even more embarrassing. So yeah, I feel so confident mine's going

to be the most embarrassing. The readers are going to vote, So basically, after we all say our things, we're gonna put a pull out on the Lost Cultures just Twitter and follow us at Lost Culture, rest us on Twitter and on Instagram, and the readers are all going to vote to see who's the most fucking humiliated answer to this question, So that'll be a fun in active element. Okay, I'm gonna share it. I can't look at you while

i'm sharing it. This song that I used to listen to before auditions was that song Suddenly I See Yes Suddenly. It really pumped me up. I listened to it so much while I waited for four or five hours tradition for SNL. Like I, I really was into that song. It really, it really got me going. What do you think it means when she sings her face is a map of the world, map of the world. I don't know that is I'm not but the world is not on That part is hard for me to I think

I kind of skipped over that part in my mind. Okay, that's your answer, my answer, I'm okay. Before any pitch, before any audition, before anything I ever have to do, that's high stakes. I listened to the title track from

Demilvato's Confident album. The song is called Confident because it makes me feel confident and when I hear that, it's time for me to take When she goes into it and when they get go into it, they're like killing it and just gaalvanized lyrics and I do need to feel like and it's like the the like beats like and I'm like, dry, is this Demilovado song hitting so hard? It makes my blood pump? And I always don't I don't always book, but I always listen to the song.

I love that And I actually think that's a great answer. And I think I'm still winning in terms of most embarrassing. But well, it's because because mine is so on the nose. Like the song is called confident, you know what I mean?

My confidence is called confidence. Suddenly I see ruditions now, all right, bowen, what is your h It's not one song, but it is, like um, a theme of song, and that is specifically music from boss battles in Japanese role playing games, where it's like crazy like it like gets

you in them. And then I literally picture myself with a fucking like staff or a sword like fighting this like boss, like getting myself in the mindset of okay, this is you're you're doing something that you don't normally do.

You've things have let up to this and you and it is and you will actually like win if this is if I'm thinking in terms of like a victory and I truly think of myself with like a health bar and like fight with Seymour plays from Final Fantasy ten or um Sweatshop from Persona five will play, or the Man with the Big Gun from Final Fantasy. Like

I have a whole playlist of Boss Battle. So I played it yesterday before, like on Saturday before before the show because I had to do a big ree, right, I had like really nailed down this like thing and this impression I wanted to do that didn't make it to the show, like I and it like really gets me there. I'm like, Okay, let's go, let's do this. It's mission oriented, mission oriented. Wow. And I did that for S and L too, I think, yeah for my audition anyway. See I think that with I we also

it's gonna be embarrassing. Mine's gonna be embarrassing. I think they all makes sense. Suddenly, I see it makes so much and I don't I mean this as a compliment, Like it makes total sense for Vanessa because it's like she is someone who is who is like bright and this is something this is a song about like really like embracing like the like what you were, what you were going to give to the world, and that is what an audition is. And confident makes sense for Matt,

like you're yeah. And then I also should say I always listen to necessar that walked by RuPaul and it's so so you know how like Bowen is like in his in his room like sort of like like feeling like he's going to be a fighter. I'm like shadow boxing. It's yeah, it's crazy. Mine is a lot of like listening to Confident and like posing and like feeling like like like like looking over there like and being like, you know, sort of just like feeling like you know

what I mean, like what am I doing? Like I'm trying to I'm feeling powerful and confident and like virile. And mine's just like a basic girl in anthropology, like let's let's do it, honey. Oh my word, let's do it, honh. I think this is a great I love I've learned so much about both of you from these answers. Well, that's really what lost Culture, he says, is all about.

It's about bringing on a guest and hopefully, by the end of the podcast episode, the listener or reader as we call it, they feel as if they've not gotten to know everything about the person, but sort of begun to understand something about them that gives more of a context for who they are, and maybe going forward it gets to enjoy them in their work even more because of that context. That's what makes this podcast great. And the podcast has received critical acclaim as it is due.

That's my favorite thing. On our Wikipedia page, it says the podcast has received critically I'm like, well that's how you know? Wait do we? Okay, let's celebrate something because Matt Rogers finally has his own Wikipedia page. They maye be a Wikipedia page finally separate from separate from the

Matt Rodgers of American Idol fame. Do you know about this that there's a Matt Rodgers of American Idol fame who constantly is terrorizing my life because like it'll be like whenever like a project I'm in is announced that like literally links to him, it's like, I'm not this American Idol Season two contests, then I'm just not. Sometimes that stuff will work in your favor. For example, a lot of people thought that I was invited to Beyonce's baby shower. Um, and what my mom was like, were

you invited baby shock, and it was Vanessa Bryant. But people got they got Adie Bryant, Vanessa Bay are confused, like, yeah the SNL girl Vanessa Brian. Yes, yes, so I got a lot of um kind of impressed impress messages, impress messages for that. But um, but yeah, I'm sorry that you had to go through that. Now, now you're going to be doing that to him, okay, exactly. Now

he gets to he gets to sort of struggle. Yeah, he gets kind of getting the yeah, yeah, you're doing a voice girl, and that maybe that reminds me of your famous voice. Oh so, um, we have to chat because, um, you have become sort of, I think Andy Cohen's favorite person. And you know that. Do you ever get a divibe that Andy is obsessed with obsessed? Obsessed? He lights up

when you are there, He left. I look, I love Andy Cohen so much and I the fact that he's given me a platform to do to do impressions that I literally was doing back to my TV during the pandemic is um incredible and just kind of shows you what a cool person I am. Enough he truly you are. You are the best Housewives impression. You and Cecily really

are the best house you, especially on the road. Well, I do also want to give that I want to give a shout out to my friend Amy Phillips, who has been doing the Housewives forever and who I know who I've known for a long time. But do you like how I'm like, but I'm accepting it. I'm like, but of course no, because also you don't get enough credit for your whitney. Your whitney is also good. So if you haven't seen um like Vanessa doing whitney and

Lisa a conversation, it's really something good. Thank you so much. You guys, what do you make of the of some housewives happenings right now between Beverly Hills or Salt Lake or Pa Tonac, whatever you're watching? I mean, I just am really, I really I want to see how this gin show stuff plays out. Yeah, there's nothing I'm looking forward to more. I mean, we have to see. I also don't understand why Lisa is like making such an

effort to be her friend. But then it's also it looks like she's going to fully ditch her in a few episodes. She's not. I think she's talking about Mary in that clip. Oh, I think Mary. I think that's Lisa screaming about maryam Cosby, but I think I agree. I think Lisa's gonna ditch Jim, but I think it's gonna be a I think Heather is going to like really fall out of our grace, of the public's graces.

Wanted to be friends with It's weird to me because that was like why people liked her was because like, oh, she felt like the most directly speaking to people, and yet she kind of, of course is a little bit out of touch. At least I think she was just so um, she just realized how loved she was in the first season, and she really I don't know I had I felt like she she did come after Lisa really hard in the in the re union, and I mean, I want only good things for Heather, but um, I

want the things for all of them, even Mary. I want her to get it together, like unless she's like even in a cult leader and which I think we'll find out. But she's forcing her son to join the military, which I know mine. I don't know about Mary, which I know that like is the thing that people do, I guess in families. But it's like the watching her talk to him is so upsetting to me. I'm like, you you you don't talk to him like he's your son. It's so crazy. I don't know. Yeah, it's very strange.

And then also her friendship with Meredith when like she's talking to Meredith and Brooks and she's like, I had to fart, and You're like, all right, to poot, I had a to p o O T. I had to poot poot, which is really the worst thing. It's actually real culture number nine. It's it's the worst thing. It's the number one worst thing. But it's so crazy. See this makes me like Brooks less for being friends with Mary, like they hang and it's like it feels like their

friendship is based on it on a dislike of John. Right, yeah, you guys. I have to say, like recent news about an event that Meredith Marks attended is going to be my I don't think so, honey. And I don't know this Vanessa, but I when we get to my I don't think so honey, you're gonna hear all about it. But when you know what I'm talking about, right, I don't think I do. Oh. I can't wait to extol ol Right, So before we get to fucking deep into Salt Lake. I need your Beverly Hills takes this season.

As we head into the reunion, where are you in terms of Erica Jane slash Girardi slash Johoy. Okay, first of all, I just want to say I work on a Meredith all the time too, and I've done it on another podcast. But do you guys want to hear my Meredith right now? Okay? It's not going to be as good as Whitney and Lesa. Don't shut up, don't patronize me, So I just want okay, just okay. It's something like this. I don't appreciate when someone speaks l of my family. She will not speak ol of my family.

That family, family, my family. She really it's something she goes really nasal, and she goes like fine phone. It's like resident but also still unhealthy, you know what I mean. Like vocally, it's it's in a place that is like placed but still fry. Like yes, her voice is almost impossible to do because sometimes it's like really high and

it's like on oh. And then sometimes it's like when she gets its really weird because it's sort of like it's really it comes yeah, guys, are you losing respect for me because I tried a bad impression for you? Are like I asked you that just you guys would be like, no, it was good. We lost It was good, and we're talking about it and we're really exploring it's

a perfect impressing it. We're exploring it. And if we had Andy Cohen right now, Andy Cole will be falling off the bed, he'd roll over and they'd have to pick his son off the floor and move them to the other way because and he's rolling with left, he might roll right over his son. I can't know, see, I don't know what to say. Somebody, someone gives me a sentence like, jen, I how about this. I have never done anything to Jennifer Shaw. I have never done

anything to Jennifer. It's like part of her. It's the if there's something cat like about her existence. She talks like a cat, like, she speaks like a cat would speak, like if you ever do you ever think about what it would sound like if a cat came to live. That's I think what Meredith marks. It's also there's like a it's like there's something in her And I say this with love. It's like there's something in her mouth.

So it's like it's like, I'm I'm she she spoke out of my family, and I um, it's like a loose mouth. But also again said with the love. You know she said what she said about Jack Barlow, the s h is get a lot of emphasis. Yeah, what she said, do you stand for lg do you stand against lgbt Q hate? And and what I need to know that it's really something. Yeah. I really feel like like the more the more with this this show continues. I'm like, this is a good fucking cast and you

have to like it. But this all being said, please what Erica talked about? Erica the most important cultural topic of the year. Okay, I am gared to talk about Erica because she has such rabid rabbit is the bad way to people. I don't know, she doesn't I the Army of Gaze has laid down their weapons, the law. I guess I just well, I think there's a couple of things going on. I'm going to give you a

boring answer. I'm so, But basically I think what's going on is like she can only say so much and like there's certain things she truly can't mention because of legal for legal reasons, but also it does feel a lot of the stories feel yes, and and the day that the divorce came out felt like was it the day after, which is calculated. I mean about it is

like is bizarre and like feels calculated. I guess I'm just excited for the reunion because it is four parts, which is like essentially four hours of the reunion, which for me is heaven um. But the clip where they show her like saying something she shouldn't have said and catching herself, Yes, it's so. And I do think a lot of her like stilted talking is her being like what am I allowed to say and not allowed to say?

Like I don't think it's all just her being like I don't want to tell this, like, but but it is. I'm so excited for the reunion, and I mean not every franchise has had its best season, and I'm obviously talking about New York has been like you know, like so I feel like you know, you never you can't you can't know in advance, always like how the seasons are going to go, and the fact that we've gotten so much from Beverly Hills a long season episodes. It'll

end up episodes. Well what the reguning wife? And can I say this to like the person that I've been kind of disappointed in in Beverly Hills this season, even though I generally love her. Oh, I wonder if we're going to say the same person? Ready? One? Two three? Kyle. Yes, I didn't say I said k but because I I thought you were gonna say Crystal. But I'm not disappointed Crystal. In speaking of impressions, here's what I will say for Kyle.

She wins me over with her impressions. I just feel like Kyle, like I look, I was not on board. I was not fully on board of Sutton when the season started. I had a lot of ston as anyone, as anyone would, but like the way that she keeps like throwing Sutton under the bus and being like, Sutton, say what you're thinking. And it's like Kyle is not coming to Erica with any of the stuff that she's thinking, and she's the way that she keeps doing that. I'm like, Kyle,

what is your problem? Because Kyle agrees with Sutton and for like in the big ways, you know, to to

everyone's face, she is like their best friend. And then when they're all at a dinner together, I'm surprised that no one turns to Kyle and is like, you're acting mean, you're you're like to phase because she's been very two phased the thing that she just said in the recent episode where she was like they were talking about like Crystal was like, we don't sweep, we don't clean during you know, during this time, and she's like sweeping and

Kyle's like, sweep things under the rug like you sutton like, and it's like, has already been the only person to give any kind of feedback to Erica of like what they're really thinking, and and you're gonna like keep pushing. It's like, what is Kyle talking about? Yeah, well, Kyle is the protagonist of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I always say, And so I think that sometimes the show is hesitant to like give her a hard time because she is truly the only one there from the beginning.

And I also think the show is like deeply about the um Richard's sisters in a way that will when that whenever it does wrap up, like it will become clear that's what the whole show is about. So I think that's what I think. I think. I think every like every except Potomac, because that's kind of what the Gazelle Karen thing is all about, is who is really the start of the show. But there's a clear star of the show here, and it is Kyle, for better or worse. I'm a Kyle fan until she does things

like I think. I think she's funny. I love her family like I love I love MAURICEO. Love Mauricio so hot. He's such a I love that he's high all the time. Love that he's high all the time. I just rewatched Camille's wedding in Hawaii and he was so stoned at dinner and he was and they were all just laughing at him, and I'm like, see, this is good ship. Um and maybe want to get stoned? And then I did, Um, hell, yeah, are you big stoner? You know I'm not, but I um,

I have I do have love edibles. I have. I have them once every five months. I don't know. I'm not a big stoner, but I don't mind it. I don't mind getting stoned. Yeah, you can't tell by how cool I said it, how off the cuff. I also feel like we're sort of dancing around something bone, don't you think, which is the fact that you were sitting on the floor in your bedroom. Okay, so this is sorry to brag. This is my guest bedroom. And when we when my brother and I started our podcast, how

did we get weird? Um Doug who's also your producer and and you know engineer uh said, what's the room that's kind of um not super loud and covered in glass, etcetera. And it's it is this guest room. So I'm and and so I bought a desk to um to do the to put my computer on while I do the podcast. And it turned out the desk was um very low. So that's why I'm sitting in front of a bed. I think I think it's very chic. I think it's sort of so much such as Japanese almost the height

that the seat height being a little low. It gets a little uncomfortable on the sides of my feet when I'm sitting across for this long. But I figured it out and I have the time of my life. Thanks for saying feet. That actually gets more people to listen to the podcast. Whenever we talk s feet. The feet is a whole community oh, bo, And I'm sure as soon as you got on SNL there were people, you know, posting about your feet, like I don't. I don't think. I don't think I get a lot of feat people.

I think you might not realize it because you don't go on foot fetish websites. But I was. I didn't think I did either, and then and then and then it all blew up. I won't. I haven't really looked at it myself, but um, i'd say you can. You can kind of skip that bother me. I posted foot to Maine on my and people really liked it. I didn't get Maybe I'll do that because bone actually has good feet. Boone has bone has like Thickham's feet, like you got those you got like you got like you

like you're like a wide foot. I have a very like. I will say I have a very like I have no arch is my only flaw. That's why I guess what I mean, Like you don't really have arches. Wow, people don't like that. I like an arch. I mean I think I think, to each their own, that's what

I'm saying. I think I think you got a good foot. Okay, thank you, thanks, thanks, thanks guys, you know, one time during sex and then we don't have to talk about this, but I did put a toe in my mouth and immediately other guy was like what and I was like okay, yeah, no, I didn't even want to do that, and then it was like okay, cool, and then we just continued um fornicating um. But I did try to do the toe thing you tried. I gave it a shot. Here's here's

my question to the group. Who is not right or wrong, but like who, like you wanted to try something? You know what? Yeah, you know he he vocalized his discomfort and it was done, and you were both right. I think that he was just like enough for me, and I was like, you know what, baby, either I was doing it just to try it. I mean, I mean, like I like that. We don't have to actually get into this. But it's like it's interesting to be like, well, at what point is it kink Shamian, is it what?

At what point is it? Like I'm not comfortable doing that and I don't, you know, I don't know. Well I'm the person to ask, So I guess that's why we really wanted you one Vanessa's to talk about King as you can tell from my suddenly I see King Queen title about uh No, actually, so I do want to ask before we get into I don't think it's honey in a bit like how did we get weird? How did it come about? Tell us all? Okay, So

my brother and I are very close. We used to both live in New York and going out all the time. Now he lives with his wife in um in Massachusetts in the Berkshires. I live in l A, California, And so we really were like wanting a way to like kind of spend time together and hang out. And also we love talking. Our our podcast is based on like nostalgic.

Uh We we talk a lot about you know, being kids and and kind of nostalgic products and shows and stuff that kind of like for better or worse shaped us into the into the incredible humans that we are today and to us network and UM creative aim and a name and and UM and like. We have guests on that that similarly talk about what made them into such incredible you know, pieces of pieces of art and

UM and like. But Jonah and I always would like and Jonah, who famously were with Bowen on the search podcast. So great to work with Jonah, I love him working with you. That was such a great podcast too. That was it was It was lovely because it's a great show and I was a guest. Um, it was such

a great show. And and anyways, he and I often will like text each other about like do you remember like some random thing from growing up, and it's we just like always like naturally will be like looking the stuff up all the time and have so much fun

talking about it and so um. So then then we decided to do this podcast that um kind of where we get to talk about this nostalgic stuff and research this nostalgic stuff and have it be um professional thing we do instead of just like a thing that takes

up a lot of our time for no reason. Well it's it's the perfect it's the perfect frame for this like conversation that you guys regularly have, yes, and so like why not Like that's that's the perfect seamless way to like transition into a podcast is to like let's just have it be that. It's taking me back to it like when you have your sibling, because we do we all have only one sibling. Yeah ye yeah, so same, So My sister is three years younger than me, and

I'm just like remembering like the stuff I'm not. So I'm very seeing her very soon. I haven't seen her in like over two years. It's been like a really crazy thing because we were very, very very close always, and so I'm really excited to see her. But and hearing you talk about that, like it's reminding me of like the weird ship we would do together, and we were little and really only had each other to hang out with and play with. But I remember, I just

said this the other day. We were in the car, like we had an astro van and we wanted like a long trip one time, and I think my my parents had like a literal TV put up on the shelf, like well, you're talking like a long trip, and like they put a TV with like a VHS in there, and they let us rent movies. And I remember I had seen Clueless in the Blockbuster and I just kept looking at Alicia Silverstone and being like, whatever that is,

I need to get that and rent that. But I remember we watched it in the back of the astro van and my sister and watched the whole movie in silence, and then it ended, and I turned to her and I go, I don't think I understood a lot of that, but I loved it, and she goes me too, I want to watch it again right now, And so we put it back on and we just watched the whole thing.

Like I don't think I picked up on a single joke, but we were like truly like eight and five watching this movie that was like not for us, but it's so visually fun. You need all you need is as if and like as an eight year old at any age you get that that is like so fun and iconic star. I mean, she's just so watchable and fun.

But anyway, I was, I was wondering, like, but when do you have any of that like things with Yang when you were a little Yeah, probably it tons so many Maybe it's just like Sunday foggy brain that like

things don't come up come to mind. But like I mean I always talk about how she like was she was the person to like channel in like all this stuff that like I wouldn't have had access to you like Mary Kayton Nashley, like like if I didn't have a to years older, if like if she wasn't there, like I would not have like watched I would not have watched Clueless. I would not have watched like all the nineties rom coms. Like she was the way, like we didn't have cable, so she was the one to

like bran in all this stuff. Um. She told me what l was when we moved to the U S and I was like, like she like she was the person to like sort of introduce me to a lot. Um. So there's like there's so many things that we would

watch together. I had a similar thing where like because Jonah is a couple of years older than me, he was watching MTV a lot, and so like I sort of started like watching all these like music videos and this stuff that like I think is like a little it's just like most like kids two years older than me, would you know, you know. And so like yeah, I got introduced to all of that stuff. And we watched so much MTV that my parents threatened to cancel it

like at one point. And but I don't even think you could do that, Like you couldn't like call the cable company and be like just don't play this one channel. But we like believed them. But we were like, huh, well how they don't you know, we're not gonna stop

watching it. The threat was there. I wasn't allowed to watch it because my mom would always see me watching it and it would always be like a random moment where there was like sex or something on that, and so she she would not allow me to watch MTV. I wasn't allow I had to watch h one, which she didn't understand, was like informing me. It was like

it was like it was more about sensuality than sexuality. UM, so contemporary, right, So instead of watching like you know, like Britney Spears like asked up in the sky, I was watching like Shania Twain, like like wrapped in like a like a blanket on the beach with nothing under it and like sort of looking and like a black and white and like sort of like being on the beach. And I was like, Oh, this is sensuality to be

as a child. I'm being informed this way now. I had a couple of friends and I were just watching, um very cool Friday night. We were just watching the videos for Unbreak My Heart by Tony Braxton and um one of the Men in the Shower honey and yeah and and um, what's the song? Um the Celine Dion. They're both in both cases. The man who's a model gets in a motorcycle accident, and it's all coming back to me. When she's running through a castle. Yeah, she

runs through the castle. She's sort of there's there's a scene where the camera's going around her and she's just like turning and turning. The girls were doing a lot of turning at the time. Turning was huge, like sort of turning around and like spinning around because when you turn, when you if you turn so much, you'll have spun, you know what I mean. So that's actually a real culture number forty nine. If you so, you'll have fun. I was an older child, though, so I was the

one that was like arbiting a lot of it. I think that's what you guys are like. That's sort of like when you're when you have an older sibling, they are like the arbiter of taste and culture in the households. So you are arbiting clueless, which is incredible. Yeah, And I don't know when you guys were like playing with your sibling as a kid, being the younger child, did you ever win things? No? I never wanted to watch

my brother play. Oh yeah, I watched my brother play like Sonic the Hedgehog for like hours, and you'd be like, your turn's coming up soon, and then it would just

be me watching him for hours. It's so abusive. I can be it is, but it's like I wouldn't have it any other way, you know, Like I just get to spend time with him, and I'm like, Okay, I guess I'll watch you play another round, even though it's technically my turn always won, young always won and then and then so then that drove me to like play computer games instead. I was like, well, I don't want to do this and I'm just gonna play like StarCraft

or whatever on the computer. Um so yeah, that was wow. This is this is this is our common thread is that we each have one SEB of a different gender. What are you saying, man, I think do you think it's time? I think it might be time for I don't think so, honey. The big segment of Lost Culturess where we take one minute's rail against something in culture that's absolutely needing a railing. Anyway, everyone's prepared. I'm prepared. Do you want to get you wanna start Matt. Matt

traditionally starts I love it. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many times starts now, I don't think so, Honey, Meredith Marks and her husband Seth at a thysander Land party. What bowen young, I can't believe you didn't know about this. I let me just make it clear. I think that everyone should go to all thysander Land parties. I love to hear it and blessings kisses to everyone at tite.

But I just want to say that when I saw Meredith Marks and her straight husband Seth photographed video at this party, I had to laugh and I thought, what are they doing there? And I thought, it's just like a horride an army of gay men and Meredith Marks and Seth and I got firsthand accounts of what they what their behavior was. It was very we're at this party. And I thought, if she reaching out like the twink community because she said that thing about where he was

called a twink? Does she think that she she nervous, that she thinks she uses twin because like a slur, and she thinks it's a bad thing, and she wants to reach out to the twin community. So I guess, Hune, but I can't believe Meredith marks event. I don't think so, honey, but I guess I do. Anywhere every want should go to tie anyway, and that's one minute. I mean, that's she's going. She knows where to go if she wants to reach out to the twins, and that is the

Tay Sunderland parties twinks of every shape, size color. Okay, she was at a party where gay guys had their shirts off and we're like doing party drugs, and Seth must have just stood there have been like, I got, I gotta be cool with us. That's wild that. I mean, it has to be a Brooks thing, right, I think it is. I think it's like she. I do think she's been a slightly called out for like implying that twink is a slur, which it's not necessarily a slur. No,

it is not. First of all, Also, I've played a character named Twink on q fource, which also stars Ali Leave Got by the way, and everyone's like, I can't believe there's a character named twink slur alert. I'm like, it's not. I was like, some people out there really aren't twinks, and stop stop stop saying this. No, it's but it's there. It is. It's the theemphobia, like that is like you you're telling on yourself anyway, there is, it's the femphobia. And maybe that maybe Meredith has too little,

has to sort of unlearn that too. Maybe Meredith sees twink as a slur because she has these entrenched values around masculinity and like she's she's exploring that, and then she wants to go to a Tyson Erland party to like, really, you know, immerse herself. Yeah, I I support her journey. I do too. And what I think happened is I think she saw the episode, maybe got some flak online, and she sat down with her whole team and said, how do we fix this? And they said you need

to go. She's like, you need to go be amongst the community and learn. And she said, I'm reaching out to the gay community, the lgbt Q plus and she's like, I'm gonna be around them and sort of see them and be with them and know that I stand here alongside them and I am. The thing is it's my I don't think so, honey. But it's more like I can't believe this, honey, I can't believe this honey. When I went to party, I saw Lenox, I saw Aquaria, I saw all the usual people, and it was a

really it was. It was a three dollar bill, which is an incredible space. I really thought Aquary changed the game on drag Race. When I commented to run Way presentation, I feel as there's never been a queen just shop the way and that and to win a comedy challenge. She wants snatch game. Maybe maybe we all found all found it, but I don't. I don't mean to. I'm not the person to say we found it. We did? You did? I put on a huge sleep, is it too? I don't want to make it vocal fry because I

don't think that's what Mary does. You're doing more than vocal fry. I want you to know there's a drag to it. I plan on a huge slave. Yeah, she will speak of my phone. I'm not doing you guys are doing it better than me. No, no, no. But by the way, it's another time in this podcast. It's happened many times that I've put myself down in a way that that has forced you to be like, no, you do the same. I do the same. That's true. We all do it. All three of you all do it.

We all do it. You're not special special. Well you think like, now we're going to stop everything here and be like no, no, no, you did it, and we do it and work on it. Thank you. By the time I get to set, that's better be fixed because I'm not sitting there with you in those those chasing me, pulling me, pulling me up out of my hand, and you'd like, I'm like no, I'm just gonna turn to you and be like, fix this, Vanessa. You need there

needs to be number one on the call sheet. Vibes from you starting now, thank you in all areas of your life, and I'm gonna I'm gonna respond to you hard as like a number six and be like, shut up. I love that. Number six is sort of where I live. I was number six on Fine Island. Two. Number six is very number. You know what I mean? Are you number six? Is that what you were in? The number six? Yeah? That's great. Alright, So guess what it's time for? Boon Yang.

I don't think I love that. Yeah, this is one of the most amazing moments. I can't wait, can't wait, Okay, I love this moment alright. So I have to stop, utch in my hand and bowen. I'm ready to say, bo yang. This is your I don't think so, honey, and your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Bits of pooh that cling to the toilet, you know, it always it's upsetting, whether it's mine or someone else's. I don't want to see it. And then and then what do I do? I play a little game, right

if I'm peeing, I try to piss it off. And then I get really frustrated if my stream isn't strong enough to you know, kind of you know, dislodge the pooh from the porcelain I want. I was almost gonna say porse, but then I wanted to be like but then I had to be like, it's I'm gonna have to just elongate it and say porcelain and and and explain that it was an abbreviation for porcelain. Anyway, you know, I need to go to the bathroom and feel safe.

I can't be surprised by what I see. I know that no one goes to the bathroom and feels this way, but I feel like we need to start actually really treating bathrooms as a sacred space and anywhere, at work, school, at airports, every bathroom needs to have vetaversetpe by by Rato, and all of the sinks like mine doesn't. That's one minute. That's one minute. And I think the thesis of this is Barreto at all and all public restrooms. You know, I have a song about this courtesy flush. You have

to curR sea flash. If you wanna be my husband, take a deep no, take a good look before you'll leave the toilet. If you wanna be with me, baby and something, oh you'll be you need flash two times. So much water waste though, But also it's not even that. It's sometimes I'm sorry, this is so gross. I pooh with such force that and there's no way that not all the flushes in the world starring Michelle Williams will not be able to get that off. She would do that if that shot in Brooklyn Um. And I just

want to say that, yes, it's true. Yang. Oftentimes when I go to the bathroom after you, there will be that, and I'll sort of say, well, you know, he poosed forcefully because you have one of the most powerful assholes in manattainment. I really do. I no, no, lie, I do Yeah, I have a powerful his shinkter has. It's like, I mean, my favorite thing that's ever been said about a bowen young fart is when Doug Whiteck said it

was like an angry Egyptian king. Yeah, the mummy, a mummy emerging from like a pharaoh screaming to the gods in anguish. I'm already to make this a fecal conversation, but no, it's important conversation. Actually, this podcast has tackled kink, fecal matter, and and it's received critical acclaim. The podcast has received critical acclaim, critical acclaim, ritical acclaim. So, Vanessa, unless you have a lot to say about poop hanging onto the toilet, we can move on to your I

don't think so, honey. I think I'm ready. Okay, alright, this is Vanessa Beyers. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Goalie commercials, Now, what the hell are we doing? First of all, you're going to release a goalie commercial that has people in an office. It's very underproduced, it looks very low budget. There's I don't blame the actors in it. It's what

they were given. And honestly, they're barely given like anything, and there's like a lot of like big swings that these actors are taking. They're very poorly edited and it's the kind of commercial that like I see it and I have to change the channel. Now cut to they release a Goalie commercial with j Lo. I mean, obviously they paid her so much money to do a Goalie commercial?

So which is it? Goalie? Are you a low budget company that will barely pay these probably non sag after actors to to uh to to to to improvise and like barely have the get not get any of the respect that is due to them, probably barely pay them. And then you're or are you going to pay j Lo? Millions and millions of dollars? Like what? Who? Who am I buying? What am I buying? Am I buying a high end product with a huge promotional Queen? I'm sorry,

Queen again promoting it? Or are you going to barely pay these these talented non union actors probably sorry if they are union to either way to promote a project? What is Goalie? And where do you stand on the where do you stand? And that's I'm sorry, Queen, that was Queen? What is I don't think I've seen these commercials. What is Goalie? Okay, okay, go, I need you guys to watch. I'm going to send you links to both

of these commercials. Goalie isam in gummy that has g O l I that has um that has uh it's it's it has apple cider vinegar in it and it's supposed to control cravings and help you like lose weight. Okay, So they're at least this commercial months ago where it's like people in an office and it's like a guy getting ready for work, a woman running on a treadmill, a guy at the office and they're like, hey, do you want some donuts? And he's like, no, I've got Goalie.

And you're like, this is the most low budget commercial I've ever seen, and I don't. And it makes me like uncomfortable for these actors, Like I don't feel like they were taking care of onunset by the way, truly, if they were. I don't mean to start a bad rumor. All I'm saying is it seems like they really cut corners on this initial Goalie commercial. Come to see a few months later they have j Lo in a Goalie commercial and she's doing a full comedy bit and you're like,

what is happening? Like is this like if they had stuck to the low budget commercial with the cast of people that you feel like deserve better than this, fine, then that's who they are. But then to come out and have a j Loo commercial. I feel like if was one of the actors in the initial commercial, I'd be like, where was all that money? Like what were you paying me when you had all of this j LO money? Yea, because wasn't doing no no, no, no, no no no. I really need you guys to see

all of these commercials. I'm someone who gets very fixated on commercials, and I really I wonder if it's because I used to audition for commercials so much in Chicago, or if it's because I just grew up like very into commercials and kind of like improvising commercials for my

best friend one. Anyways, the point is, I really it really is the most confusing thing because it's the type of you know, like those commercials where it's like um, where it's like a woman in a grocery store and and they're like um and she's like, uh God, I can't think of the name. But it's like she's talking about a product and it's so low budget on purpose, where it's like she's like something time and she's like this product is really great, and you're like, Okay, they

spent zero dollars on this commercial. Fine, that's kind of the vibe of this initial goalie commercial. But then they swung so hard the other direction that you're like, come out with a commercial with j Lo in it, and you're like ripted comedics toward a force. Did they spend all of their money on that or are they doing really what? Like did they just the low budget commercial made them so much money that now they're able to

pay j Low to do a commercial. It's so I've never seen the same product have two commercials now, I'm I'm this is no burn to j Lo. The Jlo commercial is not like a huge does not seem like the commercial itself cost a lot of money, but having j Lo, I'm sure they paid her millions and millions of dollars to be in it, to be promoting this product. And you're sure it was her and not some like

Jlo drag queen guys. Not only am I sure it's her, I'm a little surprised by what she's she's doing like a like she's basically like talking about like it gives me energy, and then she's like j Loo energy general g and you're like, she's doing it's it's so who who is in charge? Who is what is their business model? Who who is their demo? I'm so by the way, I don't think an ad agency. I don't think so, honey. I am so befuddled by the screen blow budget commercial

j Lo commercial. Again, the production quality of both commercials is not high, like neither has like a huge however, just the casting, it's like, what is happening? You're thinking of the little guy and that's good, and you're thinking of those because guess what, there was a time you were non union and there was there yes, and we want the little guy getting paid more, not with her millions paid nothing. And if if any of those those those times that I was non union and I got

paid nothing, I was so happy to do it. But had the same product that I was advertising weeks later come out with a commercial starring j Loo, I would have said, hey, you guys could have thrown in an extra thousand dollars for me. I think that you've given us a lot to think about and a lot for everyone out there listening to think about about. They support this is about ethical consumption, and I want to say I always feel like when I listened to your podcast,

I'm like, oh, there's so much they know everything. I don't know anything. The fact that I found something that you don't know actually shows It's like it's like, it's how wrong I am. No, it's like I'm paying attention to the wrong things. I think. No, that's not true. I am. I'm getting worked up over like things that are sort of like important in a lot of ways. I'm sort of like I'm like, I'm your mid western aunt and I know it. But it's also like I

just I just really do need to you guys midwestern cousin. Okay, older cousin who we need to know about the go the go go goalie? Goalie? Now, look is goalie. Do I feel bad if Goalie was like, Wow, maybe we should sponsor some of these, um, we should sponsor some of these big money players podcasts, And then now they're going to listen to this and they're gonna go, no, thank you. But it's like, well, you already spent all

your money on Jay, you can do it anymore. Also, I have to tell you from not knowing about it before, I do want to try them because I love apple cider vinegar. Well, it is supposed to be I have pretty bad I'm a pretty bad acid reflects. Apple cider vinegar is supposed to be very good for for you know, I rewatched the commercials in preparation for this podcast, and I did think I should try this product. Yeah, No, there's no, there's wan. That's another. So the readers have

to do two things. Vote on what's the most embarrassing song. I'm go out and buy Goalie the vitamins uh that will have a vinegar in them, gummies And basically I want you to tag us at Lost culture is thus on Instagram and Twitter and tell us your opinion on Goalie. Yeah, and I will try it too. Great And so we'll all get back together later when you come back to promote. I love this for you because you're all right back. There's an open door. Um, I would like to have

a big discussion on Goalie. Yeah, we'll all have tried Goalie by then and we'll see what we think. But also knowing that I still I'm going to hold onto a little bit of this resentment about the way that they've the way that they've put out their campaign campaign their campaigns, and never lose resentment that's actually important, never less resentment. I think we really did cover so much. Goalie came Poop, Housewives, pump up songs like SNL like

havel An is iconic in the new show. The new show. The podcast has received critical acclaim for these reasons because it's able to I think the podcast law Scholed Recess is able to sort of, you know, cover so a breath of topics, you know what I mean. It is one of the good podcasts. It is, It really is. And if if my new podcast starring my brother Jonah Bayer and I How Did We Get Weird? On Big Money Players Network, if ours can even have a slice of the acclaim and honestly, the oh you're due for

multiple multiplied factor more acclaim than we have. You guys are gonna have more, you guys have. But I just if we can have a fraction on How did We Get Weird? Starring my brother Jonah Bayer and I sorry, I just did. We will be thrilled and I see that for you and I love that and I love that for you. Listen, this has been absolutely fabulous and we can't wait to have you back. And I think when Bowen comes to Los Angeles, we should all do dinner. We should all do dinner again when Bowen comes to

Los Angeles. And guess what, Bowen. For the rest of the day today, you should relax. I hope you order in a bagel or whatever the hell you's I'm not. Are you gonna go party? I'm gonna go. It's the last tight tee and our and our friend Patrick Rodgers just moved to the city from Josh Star Aaron Jackson. Are gonna go meet up with him? I'm gonna I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna go somewhere for just like an hour or two and then gonna come back and have a long, nice night of Double Housewives. Yes, please

give him such a big I will. I will help for me too, and yes for me Vanessa of course. But thank you and Vanessa again, thank you so much for that talk. Thank you so much for being here. Your legend. You guys are legends. Sorry you right for you so so the every episode of the podcast ends with a song. You have to curtsy Flush, you wanna to be my husband? Take a good look. Be fun because if you want to be any baby and something to kid, you need to artesty. Flush, Oh you can ship.

You needed a flash two times? M Joy, learn the song, come back, harmonize or else Bye Bye