Forever. Look man, oh, I see you my why and look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong last culture calling? Look at us tenors tenor too? You shut up. I can't do tenor one now it's honey. I think you have the vocal power that no one understands like who, like whom? Do I have the vocal power Freddie Mercury himself? I believe that you possess the vocals of the legend known as Freddie Mercury. Do you
have such a high voice? But you know I don't have my going from voice to falsetto insane man, you mean going from chest to falsetto chest to have his female specifict So so women don't have falsettos. They have head voice and chest voice. I know that this is all for the listeners because I know that. Yeah, of course I've and then um for man, it's oh. I don't know what the chest voice equivalent is. It might
just be chest belly massio falsetto. No, not not real belli massio falsetto abarriciozzacio from the stomach they call Liza was named after the men's stomach voice. Um. Now, bless her. I think you know what. I was bucketed as a bass in high school? How dare they was that because you were doing mass drug and talk. I really wasn't. I was fully I was fully up, up up, and they made you sing bass. And some fucking dude, what was his name? Say it? Well, my well, my cat's
name is Michael Grant and he's wonderful. But there's there was this gran or Grant, my Grant, I'm sorry, but there was this other man named raw his literal name is robbed Low, and he was this, oh my god, he was just like I have a crush on that. No, he because because I have a cus on that you want to And I don't mean to shame him on his looks, but he actually, well actually I do mean to shame him on his looks because he sucked. Wow.
Of course should be absolutely and so he well know, he was just like this like hippie in his sixties who was mean and rude, and he one time a hippie and the hippie in his sixties who was mean and rude, and he um. So he would sometimes he would be the accompanist for the musicals and then one day the stage lights are on. We were doing a tech week and the lights were on, and he just
had done something the night before. Clear they had been on some drug, was hungover, and he just We're in the middle of like warm ups and scales and then he just turns to the tech booth and stops and he goes, can someone turn these goddamn lights down? So he was a shitty person. Abuse such abuse, that is such abuse anyway, So he's so he's doing scales and I guess in the placement examle of choir, he like, I couldn't hit a D of the third CR. I mean, he's horrible at his job. If he's calling you a
bass because honey, tenor tenor one? Think you about tender one, tenor one? What do they call a super high tenor counter? Yeah? M hmmm, what are you bitch? Should we find out right now? Okay? So that's famously your voice? Okay, can we stop what you're finding out? What my thing is? Really quickly? Unfortunately, the fortunate that there's a ratio on the pod. Get you go, come on, scale up to the highest note. Hai hai, I have the results. I
have the results. I have the results. I have the result, what's the result, cat Rogers counter contralto, Oh my god, I can't believe I'm a counter conto. To be here feels amazing. I joined the likes of Freddie Mercury and oh Ricky Martin. Ricky Martin, she bangs more like she sings well. Listen, talk about people that do things well, talk about multitalent. I would describe this person's performance capabilities as volcanic volcanic. I would say that watching this person
perform is incredible. You know why? It's volcanic? What why? Hot and gorgeous and it and it creates fertile ground for other things. So yes, volcanic ash soil. Can I say yes? And and yes and improv We love her, I love her improblem yes, and we love her improv and she loves doing it well known improviser to No, it's amazing and no. Can I say this, Let me say this, Give me the room, give me the space. This would be forever the episode where you sang instead
of me, you really truly took that from me? You would go okay. So there was a hot moment in time where I was obsessed, um obsessed in a new way with this performer because I've always been a fan. And then I went to the Bongo Hour. Do you know the Bungo Hour. I'm a fan of the Bongo Hour. I live for the bar. The Bongo Hour is Peter Smith, Sandy Honig, and Ben Moss and I had been going to Bongo Hour consecutively because I was so obsessed because I felt that it was unlike any other variety show
and the performances is that Sandy would do. I was like, I'm sorry, I was I was doing with Dave a lot, and I was like, that is a star, true star? Did you but you didn't think this? No? I always thought this, But then I was like, oh, it's on the next level. It's like that thing where it's like you always knew the person was good, but you didn't know they were, Like what the fun? But the moment, though, was Carnegie Hall. I love got to talk about because
Carnegie Hall. I think three busy DeBras, that's Carnegie Hall. Hello sounds this sounds so fucking gross of me to say I haven't even heard it yet, but we will believe, we will be talking about that Carnegie Hall show. We're gonna be three years to come. For years. I think we know, truly, I think we will that it was like moment, gorgeous, iconic moment in the community, in the community, which it is, which is which is tight. Everyone's best friends,
everyone's best friends in this community. I actually don't have a non be I don't have any enemies. Think they're all my best friends. Um, but truly never talked a word of about anyone. Um. Now she is pig Free show every Tuesday at the Slipper. Can you believe free? Free? Maybe you didn't hear free, I said free. I think they heard a lot of people think nothing's well, nothing's free. There's there's no there's no there's no free lunch. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Will bitch? This
is free? This is she hosted with Peter Smith. Peter Smith also incredible photographer. I mean, yeah, Ricky macdays. Oh, I loved her stuff back in Ricky mcdays multi talented. I would call this person and stay with me here, a multi hyphen multi hyphen it. And she's exhausting and she's exhausting now and also um one of the hosts and panelists of Vice Live. Yeah, and we will get into it. On Rest in Peace. Vice alright, p Vice life.
She actually has an amazing you. She got to have a view moment where she was like, we'll talk about we gotta talk about that. To me that anytime you get to annancially leaving something on TV, it is my dream. She to be like, that's my last day. It's much in. It's my dream. It's my dream to be like, after a lot of thoughts and prayer and counsel from God,
I've decided that I'm leaving the view. And if one goes, oh yeah, not even like what it's just like because it's understood that if you're on the food, you will leave the view. Yes, anyway, what can we say? What can we say? Please? Welcome into your ears, Sandy. Wow, that was the greatest introduction I've ever gotten. I could have just just sit there and just let you guys, No, no way, You're in this. Now. Here's the thing you are deserving of the interest. It's too kind, it's not
we've loved you for for literal years. I think, what if we don't each other for nine years? Some capacity? It might be I lived in New York for eight years, so I can't believe I've known you since before that because I'm right, I mean I met you and you actually might be right because I came to visit my brother at n y U and he brought me. I didn't go to my Hammercats show, but I went to a Hammercats party that was after a show, and I remember him. I remember meeting Sudi, and I think I
met you as well. I'm studio and I were very much that I was, I was around it, I was. We talked about this today. I was always at the shows and at the parties because I was like the number one fan but one was always but would always come to the sketches. I would always go to the that that little bubble can I say, I'm gonna fucking
say something crazy. But Hammercats and Danger Box danger Boxes the improv group Hammercats with the sketch group at the time, these were the two groups, and there was tension my freshman year between the groups. I love for whatever and I was in Danger Box. He was the improv boy. But yes, yes, and improv all around town. And then I would and then I credit myself and Nicole and like the generation that came up and like Sudie and Allison and you, which are are little coterie. We fucking
started to rebuild the bridges. You reached across the aisle. Had you had an eve piser Berry weis moment. She had no cultural references. She sits her down and she said, by the way, I have no cultural offensives. Well we're talking about college improv and she says the words Perry and you guys reached across the ail. You wrote an OpEd about it, and actually friends because we talk to each other on the internet. Shut the funk up, both of you. I don't know what's important. You did right
on the Vice Show. She she's nice, She's she's very nice. It just was a very funny moment to like read this article which it was like, can you believe too rich New York liberal Jews could be friends. I was like, yeah, that is crazy, even the like socialist versus like centrist, but you're still liberal and you agree. But it's like, okay, we couldn't be more different, and like the centrist the centrist one is gay and it's like whatever, But she's
Bill Mars, you know, protect. She's just always like on the show being like the me too movement has gone too far. Yeah, I feel that's her genuine belief. You know what, But the mee has gone here, she goes, it's gone too far, and Sandy is, guess what liberal Jewish? That the third finger? And that's that's that's how he sees. What more is there? When I hear how Jewish I am? I literally really just came here on the subway from
Fiddler around the roof in Yiddish. But they had said, but Jake was telling me the subtitles were on the screen, Yes, subtitles. But I didn't need him. But I don't speak I don't speak Yiddish, but I've seen the play so many times and I get the little I get the little words, you know, I get little words coming in a little words. The weirdest one was there's a song in the have you seen? It's been a long time since I've seen Fiddler, but I saw a high school production of it. I
guess that was good? You know what? How was the firm as Sara from As sarah Um was over the top, which I think was perfect? And quickly I will say my favorite Fara story is Amanda Shacksman. What was the what's the wife's name? Golden? So she was there's a scene where like Golda is like singing and in the back from Sarah is like doing something. And in this production,
for Messara was on a high ladder. She's got to be tall, so she was on a very high ladder and the ladder fell over and Sarah came plumbing to the ground. Kind of man that's just kept going. She no, she was gold and behind her from Sarah had plummeted because it was a high school prorection, which didn't make it safe for the kid the ladder. That seems really ill advised to have like a costume that covers a letder, so it's aladder of falls. You're just trapped on the ladder.
Actually one second, one second. Junior year of high school, Miss Lisa Wood did a production of Your Naming Names of Barnum and No, she actually scarred me creatively, and I truly resent her to this day and I don't care if she listens. Um. She decided it was a good idea. It was it was Barnum, it was circus themed. It was basically the greatest Showman been bad Um Wait wait, wait that backup. He just said it's like the greatest Showman was bad. No, stop. I'm gonna stock up for
the greatest Showman. I'm surely there's like there's like a legion of people out there who fucking love that money. It's just like crazy. I didn't I like, before watching, I didn't know that like I could be me. And it took someone to say this is me sharpest though. I had been looking for a way to say this is me, and then it really gave me the vocabulary. And when the sharpest words trying to cut me down, Yeah,
I'm going to send the flood drown them out. This is bold, this is rave, this is who I meant. This is honestly. The whole thing was a Fragrance commercial, and I love any movie that's a fragrance commercial. I'm sorry, I love Okay, So the people going to at the stay or lest my my, my great aunt was talking about it. She kept accidentally doing commercials. She was talking about because her last name was Honig. It's not anymore. But you know, before she got married and she said
that she only drives Honda's. She'll never straight from the handa because she goes. When I get behind the wheel and I see that, h I just feel great. I love the way it looks. I love looking at the h I just feel great. And I was like, we should just film this and send it to Honda. Feel great. I look at that h and I feel amazing. Yeah, she's speaking to everyone there. Oh my god. Why And that's the thing is, it's like, what why actors with commercial auditioning. It's like, none of us can do this
as good as real people. You want us to be real people anyway to get one exactly. There are some I know so many people who could make a killing in commercial editioning and they don't even know it, don't even know. Charismatic people who actually have real skills, who outside of performance, who are out there to they could make a killing in commercials and they don't know. They don't know. I interrupted, you know. The quick thing is
she did. It was one dance and she decides to have these ladders where one person would stand in the middle and be the hub basically and spin a ladder and the others and then we would have to jump up and down and literally like I fell on one of the ladders as it was coming to me and like I injured myself and then the woman kicks me out of the show. Because I didn't give a show and I was just like, I don't like being here,
and she actually like whatever. She we've told this story and you've gone into a great deal tail and she wasn't the wrong as the adult in the room. And guess what if you're an adult, if you're doing with the high school student, you are wrong with my high school drama teacher. And I wasn't even in any of the place. He just hated me and he would not cast me in any of the place. That's so funny.
He just hated me. When okay, so just and I will say again, it's actually a rule of culture number fourteen. If you were a high school teacher in a feud with the student culture. But looking back, looking back, can you understand can you see the other side? Are you like? No? I truly when I I was not in any of the shows. What did he have against me? And I'm gonna tell you what he had against me. I know
what he had against me. It's because I was elected to the drama board without having been in any shows. You were that powerful. I just they elected me to the board. I don't remember what I did board board of the drama club and he was like the teacher in charge of it, and he was so mad that I was on it without having been in any of the show. He didn't play ball. I didn't play ball, So then anytime I auditioned, he didn't give it to me.
And that's politics. And I think he, well, there's a glimpse into the industry right there at the gates gatekeepers. Gatekeeper to know I'm hunting to the gatekeepers. They shape shift and you'll see them a million different times in a million different ways. Yes, but I gotta say, if you're if you have your New York accent, but you're just like if you're a high school teacher, you and you have ladders in your fucking production, you're busted. I
see you. We're gonna kill those kids. To kill those those kids are gonna be dead, and blood's gonna be on your hands, and you're gonna say say goodbye. It for for a Sarah. But Sarah were like from a no head because she fell over a fucking head, came off a ladder, was in this strong speed. No, it's original, it's me and my family talks. Actually, this is actually or this is actually a racer. This is a racer and yeah, this is a this is a racer, Sandy,
talk about your final episode advice line. Okay, well, okay, so I also love that, like I banged the table, I so let me just see. Sorry, I can't stop because I like the way it's verb river Honestly, it gives it a dramatic attention. I love any story of someone leaving a show publicly, so please so for the fans. Vice Live was a weekly, sorry nightly show, four nights a week. When it first started, it was two hours long,
four nights a week, psychotics. For three weeks we did it two hours a night, and then they reduced it to an hour, and then I think altogether we did seven weeks on the air before I left, and I added in my contract that I could leave for another for the Debra's show, for the Debra's if the show got picked up. And then they picked us up. So I'm so excited, which we love, which we love and deserved and iconic, pretty busy, Yes, thank you so much. And so I was like, Okay, I gotta leave, I
gotta go, and the it was very funny. Actually, the producer in charge was like, so, I think rather than having you have like a last episode where it's like here you're dad, here, you here, every one day, gone the next, We're just gonna phase you out. I was like, okay, sure.
I ended up actually being a lot more fun. So for the whole last week I was there, I was just doing a little bits and I bought Peter in for a cooking Yeah, so it was basically like I would just do bits like they would like as a runner, which ended up being way more fun than just being on the couch and like talking about rappers I've never heard of, as though I knew who they were, because it got to a point where like I was like, I'm not going to look these people up because me
reading one Wikipedia entry is not going to replace an entire cultural knowledge of this person. So I'm just not So I was just sitting there being like, yeah, it is crazy that she said that. That was when I was like, yeah, I know, isn't that It is like kind of in same, but if you actually really think about it, this is a racer. And they were like, yeah, applause. The number of applause breaks I got talking about things I had no idea what I was talking about was
pretty incredible. Yeah, there's a live audience, um, live audience. They it was like. So then I was like, okay, I'm want to leave. I had a whole last episode where it was like my goodbye episode, my you know, I did my little bits where it was like always giving like performance reviews to the other cast members. Ha
ha ha um. And then they like played a little joke, you know, oh highlight reel, and they were going to play actual highlight reel from my time on the show, from the seven weeks we had been on the air. They had put together like a highlight reel, and I was like, forgot. I said, please, please, please, please please do not do this to me. Do not put together a highlight reel of my seven weeks on this show. It which I did not do will like, it's just it's just not a context in which I feel like
I thrive. Is like just it's just like riffing on culture, you know, it just is not what I am good at. And so I just was like, please do not do this. So I made them put together a like two second clip that was like you know, they put like, oh, Sandy's highlights, and it was just like what two second clips would be like fumbling, and then it was like and then godbye, goodbye, goodbye. This is on a Thursday. On Monday show canceled no more Eric, so that ended
up being the last episode. The last episode of the show was like and Sandy's leaving and it's so sad, also very funny because the audience they're not it's not like they watched the show every night. They're just like random people that came to the taping. So it's like they showed up and the whole episode was like it's Sandy's goodbye episode and they had to go like like like they and I was like, you guys don't know who I am, you don't know what the show is.
But they had to be like oh, and like give me applause. It's just so funny an emotional yeah, and then I yeah, And then Monday show canceled like just from the like from the network, and then like everyone on staff was like, I guess we don't have a job anymore, like yeah, it was very well. No one actually told me from the show. My friend Jack, you know Jack Ben singer Um from Chicago pretty recently, very very funny boy, very talented. He was I I brought
him into the show a while ago. He got uh fired and rehired twice throughout the time on the show, and then fired again, and then after I left, they brought him back in. So on Monday he showed up for his third time working at this show and then texted me being like, Hey, I'm like back at work with they're having a giant meeting with everyone who works here. And then five minutes later he text me being like, shows canceled. Oh my god. People don't know. We have
not figured out how to do those panel shows. It's not gonna work. It's a hard thing. Also, every night is hard. Two hours? What was that like? Well, first of all, walk us through like the typical day in those first stages where what time would you go in? I got in around like two or three, depending on the day, and then the show aired when it was two hours. I aired at nine from nine to eleven, and then when it was one hour from ten to eleven.
That's a long time. It's a long time, a long day, and then a long day to just like I just I don't know anything that we were talking about. You would look up like Takashi, but you know it was Abby Matton novelist situation. For all my views view it really was just like I don't know why you hired me, Like I really I feel like I showed up every
day being like, I don't know what you thought. I know that the reason that I got the show was because when I when I was testing for it, I talked about the thing was like, oh, what's a good gift you could get someone after six weeks of dating? And I was saying that a pack of batteries is
a great gift, and I was just sorry. I just talked about batteries for like five minutes and then they were like yeah, and they were like, oh, she's so funny, and I was like, no, you hired someone who talked about batteries from well, I don't know anything about pop culture.
I just know about batteries. You know. It's incredible too, because you are so good at so many things than to get this one job where they're like all we're going to ask you to do is the thing that you really was just like, I can't believe this is the first like TV thing that I'm doing is something that I feel like I am the worst at. It's just like it sucks to to feel like actively feel like you're failing live on television. And it was. It was a live which I thought would be very scary,
and it actually wasn't that scar yea even even. But how do you reconcile that with like you like, feeling kind of crazy about failing on TV? It somehow felt it felt more like I actually felt like I played better on camera than I did in the room. Oh I played a lot to the camera. Well that's good. I played to the folks at home, mak my parents. Yes, my dad watched every night. My mom would watch the next day. Beautiful honestly, Yeah, that's a skill though, Like
you miss live performance on Saturday night? A great job. You are so funny. Didn't understand what was going on. I was like, do I when? When? When do I talk? I truly had no idea what was going on. I don't remember any of that. It was so you were so funny. Oh my god, I was freaking out. I flipped out, flipped out. But I did feel like I went to TV grad school where it was like I know when that red light comes on, which I know which one to look at, and I know how to
do prompter and I know whatever I think. I think prompter is something I can do. But the red light thing annoying? Which camera? That would be hard for me because color blindness and see him? What is the red lot of reasons to not put me on live TV? By the way, everyone listening, Um, I can learn, I can, I can change my eyes. Can you see or as you can't tell if it's green or red? It's a thing of like green and red is actually very difficult for me, like from yeah, it's color weak? Is that
color weak? Red? Green? Colors, red, green, color week. I didn't know there was like another term for it. They've told you also might be right. I have no idea. Who am I but the daughter of two doctors? Of course. I mean you know what it's like. It's like I can see colors, but I can't tell them apart often. Yeah, it's like it's if blue and purple are next to each other. That's a nightmare. Red and green, brown and green, forget about it. Forget we forget about brown and green.
Those are in the forest. Yeah, no, don't put me in the forest. Don't put me back. I can't see the forest. I'm sorry, I can't see nothing. I can't see the forest for the trees. My dad, And that's not changing the expression my dad. My My one job when I was a little like my chore that I would have to do with I would have to go clean up the dog ship in the yard. Oh but that was a nightmare because I could never see the dog poop because it was famously brown. How did you
realize you were? In third grade? They pulled me into the nurses office just to do like a routine physical, and they do this thing where circles. It's a bunch of little dots of color and you're supposed to see a number or like a pattern. You're supposed to identify it. And they were like, Okay, what number do you see in this thing? And I was like four and they were like it's a twenty two. And I was like, oh okay, and they're like okay. So you're like aggressively
color blind, like this is what it is. And now they have those glasses you can wear then you see the color, or you can put on cocktail lens and it will change it. But I'm scared to do why because I feel like it will freak me the funk out. But wouldn't that be so cool too, because I always try to imagine, like try to imagine in your head a color that you've never seen before. It's impossible to imagine, but you've never looked through the glasses. Oh my god, Matt,
you have to do that. You have to make one of those viral videos where it's like puppy going outside podcast host, he's green. I will walk around this town saying green is my favorite color, and I actually I've never actually seen it. Two favorite colors are blue and green, at least what my eyes see. What color you're at are actually green? And that's and that's where where in the trouble lies. I think they're green. They are I can't really tell. I often get blue, but they're going
to look green. They're they're green. They're green. They're green. They're green. The grand mother had green eyes. So wait, so so to you, green looks brown. You don't know if you put brown and green together. I can sort of tell you which one is brown and which one is green. But it is laborous and it's like, is the green you see the green that I see? And the answer is, actually, now we know this for a fact. It is now and it's gonna be one of those
things where it's like, I don't know. My My doctor when I was little was like if you were to switch eyes with a normal person, you would see something fucked up to you, Like if you were to look at the world through my eyes, you'd be like, holy ship, Wait, but you should do it. That's such a cool experience to see it. I guess I'll figure out how to do it. What do you know, what's the worst thing that can happen? You get and then you take them off,
and then you're like, spooky, spooky. Oh, you should just do acid and then put the glasses on and be like that would be a whole thing. That would be crazy. I'd have to be in a safe afiment. Yes, you'd have to. I've done it once and it was the best experience I've ever had, and I never want to do it again because it was so great. See we did it in the first time, Well, you've done it. I did. The first time I did it was on Fire Island. Yes, it was the best experience I've ever
I've ever had in my life. And then they did it again with Matt and Upstate and it was also wonderful. Yeah, it was amazing. It didn't take away from the first at all. I like doing an upstate. The second time I did it was in l A. And then we were in a house and it was raining and I felt cooped up in the house. So that was a little bit less comfortable, but still a good experience. I'm
going to Joshua Tree in a couple of weeks. I might, but then I'm like a little bit like like desert, and we just had a house, and I feel like the only place we could go would be like walking around the desert. I don't know, if you're not gonna go anywhere, I don't know. Fire Island was so perfect because you got the beach, you got the bay so close. You could just walk around and look at all the houses and go wow. Yeah. I've been going there since
I was a little baby baby. I learned. I learned it to surf my my grandpa had a house there and then he um famously kicked us out. And then yeah, and because his wife said, we brought sand into the house and you're not allowed back to that. You weren't a lot back to the house. We had to we had to well, we would come to we could come to visit, but we couldn't stay because you brought sand
into the house. I mean she just was yeah, but long Island women, and like like the worst thing you could do in the I think it was just an excuse. I think she just I think it just didn't want us there. My my mom and her dad have been a great relationships, so so it was kind of like, Okay, you don't stay here anymore. So then my mom found this little like cabin in another town that was basically no one was living there. You couldn't even see the house.
It was like totally overgrown. It was this like cabin that this woman's uncle had built and there was just like trees all around it. And then she basically was like I'll take it. And then yeah, and now it's and there was a little fixed rapper or is it Yeah, it's still little. But she painted fun colors. I love that and you gotta make it fun, and you gotta make it fun. Yellow turquoise, which beach was like your
beach growing growing up on fire and like ocean. Ocean was in fact all my friends actually I'll name Bay Street, Yeah, yeah, right on the bad guys, My my girlfriends all in high school worked at the market, the market of the Ocean Park Market actually both by the same but ce markets really where it's at? What's what's what's the last name? What is your last name? Did you? I didn't know? You grew up going to Fire Island like truly all the time, but like the straight parts of our island
you're talking about. Did you go to the ever go to the day camp in Ocean Beach? Um? No, but all my friends see same. Jake went one year. My mom tried to get me to go, and I got too scared. When did you graduate high school? What? Ye? Okay, so yeah, we were probably literally there at the same time. I was, okay, we have so much crossover missed each other. I think you guys, And this is ultimately interesting for the listener, ultimately, ultimately and even more for event to
say what I'm gonna best say right now? Ocean Bay Park Market had the best buffalo chicken wrap. Wow. But but Stevie Market had really good daily sandwiches. Truly, I'll never have food as good as the food that I had at those markets. So expensive, everything has to be important, psychotic, psychotically expensive. A bagg of chips is like twelve dollars and truly the sleepiest fourteen year old girl work at all times, but she's always cool, tied I sweatshirt, choker's
flip flops. My sister worked there too, a blonde but like loose bun but looks good, describing truly all my girlfriends from high school. The loose fun is iconic. Yeah, loose bun iconic with like they're like, I play soccer yep, they played soccer soccer girls and all their screen names had either the word soccer or beach in it. I have this thought about the teens who work on in the Pine specifically, Yes, they run Fire Island, they run
the ferries, they run. It's like scary, it's scary. But I'm just like, are they this is truly just like no, this isn't even internalizedme with it. It's not even it's it's not even anything. I'm just like I look at them and like, do you think that we're crazy? Like like I'm like, what do you think about us? I think they know what it is, they know what it is.
I've actually are the teen is it's teens in the Pines and in cherry growth there's a lot of aren't as there's not as many teens in cherry growth, but all the teams are running every single shop in the Pine. I also think probably those jobs are a little bit more difficult to get because you probably make more money doing like the service jobs there. But like the markets and everything, all teens. But it's like some day people
can be monsters for sure. Children. I don't know if you've been to the trade part of I mean Ocean Beach at night on the weekend. Ocean Beach is a nickname the land of no Yep, and it's just all these like rich Jews that are just like, you can't you can't ride your bike on the week days. You can't. They'll literally they'll they'll they'll kick you out, or they'll put you in the jail. The jail is a jail, Fire Island jail. Yes it's It is truly prominently displayed
next to the ferry docks. Yes, it is right next to the ferry the Fire Island Jail. I have been threatened before, but I've never been put in the Fire
Island jail. Did you guys know that Macy's Street has a jail in the base that's almost no. Coole by Er has this story that she that she tells, and she told her in Seth Meyers, I think where she would shoplift, and she shoplifted from she would shoplift from Macy's, and she had this amazing thing where she goes, Okay, so you say you wanted to steal five T shirts, you put five T shirts, you put you put them all on the same hangar, and then you just pop
tags basically, and then it's this whole convoluted thing that I can't even paraphrase. But then like she got throws, she got caught one time and she got taken to the basement of Macy's and was thrown in a jail cell. They and honest, you could walk on the street with a drink in Ocean Beach and they they'll put you in jail. I'm so happy you said the land of
no I hadn't thought of that in so long. You are under constant threat of being thrown if you if you dare ride a bike without a flashlight at night, you'll get a ticket. Yeah, that's insane. Is it? Does it look the same as it does in the Pines and Cherry Grove where it's like boardwalks and entries they don't have boardwalks, they're just concrete. It's it's it's similar in terms of it's nowhere near as like aesthetically pleasing. God, I will say this, like there's something about Cherry Grove
where you feel like you could bite the walls. It's like everything's like candy everything everything. Ocean Beach is like maybe I've been there too many times, but it's just like I can't get the beauty, get it anymore? Like the what is that called the Island Mermaid? That restaurant, Yeah, the Mermaid, yea, the Mermaid, the Mermaid pantry. Yeah, it's the equivalent to the pantry. No, it's sorry, I'm getting things confused. It's it's it's all kind of blending in
for me. Now, restaurant and a little deli. So get this. So get this. I used to work, you know, the clam bar in the Fire Island. I worked there, No way, that was my first job. Nicki's Clambar and Nikki's on the Bay was my real job. And then I was like I honestly, Sandy, I did the cash register for like what you could go to get to go orders.
That was my first job. I wonder if I ever bought uh, Honestly, like, one of the most incredible things is going on the ferry to Fire Islands in the summer and watching people eat hot clam chowder in the direct sunlight. That was meder well, just like sweating. It is just like unbelievable, not logistically to eat it. And it's honestly not logistics in the matter, hands down, it's not even logistics. It's not the place to do it.
You eat a clam chowder on a boat. You eat clam chowder in a bread bowl when you're a skiing, that's when you have clam chowder. When when you're downhill on the slopes and I don't know if you've never been the Long Island in the summer, it gets hot. She can get up there in ninety degrees, can feel like a hundred three three. But you're still baking on the top on the top of the ferry, just like eating chowder. And it's also too windy to eat it.
Chowter fly, chowderfly, yes, chowter fly. Oh my god, it's but correct me if I'm wrong to get to the point in your life where people start referring to Fire Island culture as like the gay thing. It's such a hard adjustment. Like when we were growing up and it was like aggressively straight and I grow yeah, well, I'm sure. It's like if you were to go to Long Island and go back to let's say, like Ocean Beach, Ocean
Bay Park. Well, no, like, let's say you go back to um why I know, I know where where you're from the neighborhood from. If you go back and you say Fire Island, the people that aren't going to associate with gay necessarily. No. That's the thing is It's like everywhere in the world is like you say the words Fire Island and they think, oh, gay and not that's
not the case, right, Oh that's what you're saying. Yeah, I'm just saying it has a it has a whole different identity for people like Sandy and I who grew up there. You were Long Island. I was Connecticut, Connecticut. But my mom is a surfer surfing in Connecticut. So we would drive every weekend talking about Northeastern who frequent Fire Island. They don't think of it as like being gay exclusive, but we would always go over there and
have fun. Would you see? That was not yeah, see me and my mom my brother would like walk over and like hang out. Wow. I wish I wish that that had been a thing from me, But it was kind of like I don't know, was who would you have gone with? Right? Who would I have gone with? Well? I ended up I did end up going Nicky's boss. So I had a relationship with someone I worked with at Nikki's at Nikki's Clambar, and then they exposed me
to the that fire Island about it. I knew about it, but it was like the Pines, you know, something to listen about it. I mean Cherry Grove, Cherry see Cherry Grove. I thought was like the gay part, and then now like I understand that's more family oriented and the Pines is where your party, right, well, the Trigger is like more family, it's more where a lot of the lesbians are, and it's just like it's it's home er. I guess
it's also more fun. It's a little bit more low key and it's kind of like you know, they're just like yeah, like I always thought of it as like the Pines is where the like big fancy houses are. Oh the pines, The Pines is house, kitchen and cherry of his Chelsea. Yes, that tracks, that tracks, that actually tracks, that actually tracks for me. That actually tracks for me as well. So it listen, We're sitting here talking about so much culture and we have yet to ask the
question to take it away. We asked this of all our guests. By the way, Sandy Honick, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Think about the culture when you grew up formative to you end up put you in this path. And for you it might be we're talking with photographer here as well. Everyone could be photography, but it could be multiple answers, like it could be movies, books, TV. You know, it's
it's really all over the place for me. We love that because I had very very exposed I had like, for some reason, I very passively accepted culture. I didn't It's not like any even knows, Like I just didn't know you could like seek things out. It was kind of just like whatever my mom wanted, it was handed down to you. Yeah, and so I didn't have Basically the only things that I like, the only music I
listened to was Aerosmith and UM Jimmy Buffett. So we are very similar to every Oh my god, okay, I would I would have heard of myself as a parent head. My dad is the parent head. You know what parent looks at? Forty is right there? Okay, right, apparent looks right there. This is the second time I talked about dream Buffet today. Actually, I so, I mean truly like
someone the other day. I tried to like challenge me on it and she was like, oh, really, you're like a Jimmy Buffet fan, Like, for real, name five songs. I was like, I could name twenty and she was like okay, and then I just did. I mean, and it was And I didn't even understand that that was like not good, Like I have friends that would make fun of me and be like ha ha Jammy buff And I was like, what's the joke. I don't understand.
It's just fun. Yeah, it's it's They were like, well, it's like it's like yacht rock, and I was like I don't understand, Like what was so what is that? But also I used to wish that they, you know how on American Idol they would do like theme weeks. I was like, what are they going to do? Jimmy Buffett. I wanted to hear like someone cover Finns fins and iconic song, what's your favorite dream of its song? I would say that my favorite depending on my mood. Really
depends on the mood. I'm gonna Sayeeseburger Paris is a class classic, but that's also like you know, I know it's not. I think Monday is maybe his best written song. I think it has the most emotion in it, but I do I think Finn's slaps and I also think I also think Volcano is good and I love um Oh, I don't love pencil than mustache, but it's iconic. I mean, I'm telling you. And then, but you know his album songs you know by heart? Yeah, obviously obviously I know
that my heart. Yes, but it's called that because none of them were like singles or anything, but they are like so in the fandom that that you truly know them all by heart, and that whole album I could play back to front like and also there's something I have had a day dream like, I'm gonna so for me boat drinks laugh to talk about changes and attitude. Nothing son of a son of a sailor is there's a woman that comes in for the like, that woman
is iconic. Dad, it's do you know what I referenced before word me and no one knew what I was talking about. He went to Paris looking for answers to questions. And also, that's such a sad, beautiful song. Okay, wait, so did you see Beach Bum No Jimmy Buffets in it? And yeah, so Harmony cren is like my favorite director. It's not my favorite of his movies. I think that there are some moments in it that are so worth
seeing it. And one of them is he has Jimmy Buffett and Snoop Dogg in a scene and they're singing a song together, and I will say it is one of the I I met him when I was doing this vice show Harmony Harmony, and I told him, I was like, I gotta say to you, like, thank you so much because you gave us what I would consider
the greatest Jimmy Bufett song ever written. And it's called Moonfog and it's like written from I Don't written before the movie, and it's like it's it's really even if you listen, you can hear Snoop like on the like in the background. He's not like singing on the track, but you can hear him and I and it was great. I gotta say, this is actually beautiful. And Sandy came in today being like, I don't know that much about culture,
are you kidding? But this is so It's so my culture is son of a son of a sailor is truly biful. And as I've gotten older, like I guess when I was little, I liked the up temple stuff like obviously Margaritaville is like his iconic song, truly talk about a genius global brand. Yes, did you read that
New York Times profile on him? That was when the Margaritaville play came out, and it was basically just about how he is this like business mogul who owns I mean truly, he owns so many franchises and the like island lifestyle is so far from what he is now like he yeah, it's but I will say, and this is just me speaking as this complete outsider, someone who I mean is not a parrot head, like, does not really connect to in the same way that you guys are.
But I think it is beautiful. The thing about Jimmy Bvitt is I think he did. It's a how people are talking about K pop now where they're like, it's a new invention in music. I don't necessarily think that's true, but I think with Jimmy, with Jimmy Buffett, I think it's beyond yacht rock, even where it's like it's not it's not yat rock, but he invents it's it's a newish invention in rock music. I mean, it was just it's just like a brand. It's truly, it's like a
story you can opt into. It's like it's like I'm Island, but it's singular. No one else has really come close to like mimicking that specifically, I think caters to people like my father, who was a working class person who worked hard at his job and wanted an escape. Yes, and so it literally is a state of mind that is musicalized and that is like and it can be
mass produced and mass distributed and everyone can listen. Truly genius because you can actually write real songs, or you can write full last joke songs like what don't we get drunk and screwed? Class like that one always made me uncomfortable. I mean my mom would skip it. We listen, and my mom was not this one made me uncomfortable. Yeah, sort, but he also was like he's like a full novelist, like he's like he's good at what he does. And so you're right, no one's really tried to just do
brand first. Yeah. Well, actually you could say that Lady Gaga with joe Anne kind of did that you know where restaurant? Right, where have you been to the restaurant? No, no, Marville, I'll always hit one of we've We've been to Joey and Tratoria. Oh no, no, no, you're talking about I was talking about Margaritaville and I've taken you to Margaritaville, but like, who I have not been to margin Sandy's really wish they would open one. You know, it's crazy.
They have Bubba Gompoy can did you do Margarita? But we whenever we go to Orlando, this is insane. We always I always make a point like we have to go to Margaritaville because you go to the Margaritaville restaurant and the whole gag of it is you go when you said at the bar and the the like huge pitch.
Sure that's on top of the volcano fills up, and then the whole lights in the restaurant go in and out like and the picture tips over because the volcano is blowing right and down the waterfall is the margharita and it fills up a huge blender and then like that is to show that they've they've like the margharita
has exploded from the volcano. Ever you can all drink and then you know what song plays and I don't know, I'm not gonna r and then you know what I love the coral reefers by the steel drum is employed so well, and you eat your cheeseburger in Paradise. I've never I've never been. You gotta go right there in front. No, there's like, well, they're all. There's one in the you know what. I almost had this one here because I genuinely don't know where I am. There's one in l
A at the City Walk obviously the Universal Study. So I'll go there, So we'll go there when you when you come out when we cross over, you will go. And then there's also one in Orlando. There's one in Yes, there's one in um probably you know the keys and in any like Island, Virginia Beach, all that stuff. Shot. They don't have one in New York because it wouldn't not. I mean, it's like we're on an island. I'm hello, Hello. Actually we're in Brooklyn, right is that is Brooklyn? Brooklyn
is part of the Long Island. So there's got to be some other musician out there who has all this brand. I mean, we're missing someone. But like a musician, a musician with a restaurant is like a truly music who's a musician with Toby Keith? Toby Keith has I Love This Bar and Grill? So he had a song called Helve this Bar Smack con Place, and then now there's an I Love This Bar and Grill And I went there when we were on a Story Parts trip one time and I went there. Josh Leigh did he really is?
He was wonderful. He was he is such good energy, so cute. So he was truly one of the only people there that was like positive. Everybody else was miserable to be there. And he came in every day with great energy and he was always having fun. Who wow, that's who he is. He is such good energy. And I remember this is how you know I was like a young I think this is about five years ago.
He became friends with him, but I remember we were on this trip and we went to Toby Keats I love this bar and girl, and he was so excited and I was like excited to because I kind of like hundream music. Um. And he ordered a whiskey on the rocks and so I ordered on the rock Wow, and we and we hide ourselves. I kind of do that with anyone because I don't really know like drinks at all. I don't have a drink. Is that sad? It's not sad? My mind is I've changed? What is
your do I do martinis now? Because literally of a photo that sandy phonic? Wait? That really? Yes? I like you gave me my drink. I was like, I look good holding this. Yeah you did. I'm gonna I'm gonna that's an iconic picture of you and I'm going to order this for the listener. I took the photo of Bowen with the martini and as of this recording date April, she's still not No. I actually just got the check.
Just got the check, never mind, just got off. I was I was in I was out of town and I was like, really, piste off again, being like he pleasely still haven't pay me. This is for out magazine, and so I just want to call you out, okay. And I was about to like like pop off again, and then I was like, oh wait. And then I got home and I had the check and okay, when the check come in, when the check out, when the check comes, when the check come in. Hello, when the
check comes. Now, that's a beautiful song you can say when you get a shot that I can say, Um that Matt wrote Really, I love it. I'm musical. He's very musical. Did to the rest of the team get paid? Um? I know that I have to check in with my assistant. I know that the set got to get paid. Okay this sentence, I have to check in with my assistant. It sandy. It's only the Buffets and the Wells. He was just my assistant for that shoot. I don't have a system, please. I bet Jimmy Buffett has a whole
fleet of the system. Oh, he's got a bunch of like little girls in bikinis. I'm sure. Honestly, we had a room in our house. This will be the last thing I say, but it's important. I say that, I think you will understand, okay, but no one understood. Whenever I wouldn't invite anyone over to my house in high school, I had to. I was like, you have to come
see the room. But it was a whole. There was an entire like room in my house which was verd in parrots, parrot paraphernalia, photos of beaches and Jimmy Buffett paraphernalia, like you know, the whole and it just crossed over to Kenny Chest problems. You've seen it. It took over an entire room. The entire back then of my house was Jimmy Buffett feed where's that stuff? Now? I don't wait? So when you do your seventy three questions video, you have to do it there and then be like, do
you want to see where the magic happens? And you think I'm going to my gorgeous looks better with satin sheets, and it's the buffet room. Yeah, the buffet room. My mom didn't have that. She just had it all over every room. My mom's dashboard um and her car was like to like parrots in a little barrel, like my mom is beach, true, My mom is true beach. But yeah, the famous beach with her entire life. She's from Manhattan, but she's an escape but she like ran away to
Barbados and like it's just like surf girl. And she lives on Fire Island. Wow. And then in the winter she's in Brooklyn with her boyfriend or in Costa Rica. Wow. And she's a doctor so she does like, uh, you, it's like a new thing telemedicine where you can basically just like video chat with a doctor. So she just can do that from wherever that is. Imagine a cheap doctor.
It sounds like that's like an actualized lifestyle, you know what I mean, like fully achieving, Like you are fulfilling all of your needs, your own personal needs, all of them. All the boxes are being checked. Okay, here's a question. If you are to step into the reality of what you really if you're to get that actualized lifestyle, where are you? What are you doing? What's your schedule? Oh my god, I can go first? Yeah, you go first. That's a lot. That's a big, heavy question. I own
my own theme park. His arms, by the way, arms out so strong, very strong. It looks strong. You look very strong. Come on, I think that's been working out. Your arms are very strong. When your arm, when the arms come out, when the arm come out, Wow, that's that's huge for me, someone struggling physically in the gay community. Okay, well, you know, out of here, I have my own theme park. But but it's somewhere. It's somewhere where I can work it.
In fact, it's in Bakersfield, Bakersfield. I don't know Bakersfield. I haven't thought about this enough. You know what, Let's just go for it. I have my own island, right the theme parks on the island. The industry comes to me. It's a huge film studio, rivals Disney and universally. So what we're doing is we're having Rogers. It's called Roger's Land. We've talked about this on the pod. Here are some rides that are included in Roger's Leah Remedi's Escape from Scientology.
The ride Animatronic Jay rides the car. Jlo drives the car and you're riding. There's a theme park called the Mountain Boone Experience. I mean, there are little coaster called the Manta Coaster. There's many ups and downs. Ultimately you end up together right parked in the right park in the station two Best Friend coasters. There is a I think the drop tower called the Gay Experience. It shoots up and down and to and fro actually to like
a Wonka vater. Yeah. Downside there's a Hans House into big Little Wanka Wanka Willie something that like Micke is Mickey Minaj ever talk about color Wanka Yeahka, but it should be Willy Wonka. We're that bad bitch that came from Sri Lanka, A bad bitch that came from Willie Wanka. Where is the Willie Wanka rap community? What trapped inside? Where they are? They're trapped inside Wonka Tower because there
in the Chocolate River. Yes, rowing they're they're going up the tube on their way to what was the where do they send him to the furnace? Terrifying? Yeah, those children. I was just talking about this with someone. Um. I feel like it's given enough clues that like they're like, oh, she gots into the furnace, but like sometimes they don't
do the furnace on this day. If you get there fast enough where it's like they're not telling you they died, They're like giving you enough out, but like they they did the way they leave it is like the one kid is shrunk Dan, the one kids a giant ball, the one girls she gets juiced. Yeah, just straight up plummets down furnace, Yes to the furnace, And the other
one is like drowns August to school. They got towns in the tropic No, no, no, he got sent to the marshmallow room or something and they turn them into a marshmallow. But then they're like maybe not. The thing is that you just run away with the mom and they're like, let's go check. You're sure it's fine. It's really fine. Physiological trauma, you're changing busy, lifting drinks, listing trauma. And then he's inherited, and then it's inherited. Wait, okay, wait,
keep doing this. Okay. The rides no, no, no, the and that's you know, you know my deal. So that's my deal. I think there should be a three three busy DeBras coaster, three three busy Deboras and honestly three tracks. It never comes down, it only goes out. Oh because a couple of years where you don't hear from them, like like it kind of goes up and you don't hear from them for like a y and they're like and they're like, wasn't that a ride? And then and
then it comes down and you're like, oh yeah. Everyone is always just like what happened? What happened? And I'm like, where what happened to? We're writing a show. We're writing, We're writing writing, That's what's happening. Development is hard development. People love to be in development. Hell's in Orlando. If I'm not in our development, Hell, yeah, that's beautiful. Can do you guys have this? I think I have a
quick It's a lot of pressure. Schematic version is give it. Um. It's a Natalie apartment lifestyle where I'm married to like basically like a ballerino and I live in Paris. Wow that and and then I decided to poke my head back in the industry, the comedy industry. Are you a comedian at this point? Comedy? I think I'm a comedian still, um, but all my references are very disgusting European like a like a David Sadari's type exactly, like where it's like
I'm funny, but I live in like the hills of France. Okay, that thank you so much, because at first I was like, I guess's Stanley permanent. It's it's David Sadaris, And maybe I do just maybe I do just do like one one stage, one live show every two years, and then I just write books, maybe basically Sadaris type essays and memorish essays. I should say I love that for you, Yes, And okay, I should just clarify that my theme park is hilarious. Everything about it is so funny. The games
are so clear. Okay, yeah, they spunchin set up punchline that's really in fact broad. You can't even get in if you're not funny. You have to pass c before a while, passed using before a one in order to get actually actually the thin I started epons yeah, and pitched three as premises, pitch three death pieces, and I get and write write in fifty monologue jokes and I remember, got to check it out my park what is? And you have to do a bit with a person at
the gate. They're like, we gotta keep running in, we gotta stop running into each other like this. And you're just seven minutes set in which you do fifteen different characters, which is great, blackout between each y. Okay, I feel like I feel like mine was World of be an Amy Sitter sort of world. I feel like I would
live here. I would live in New York. I would have a place where I had a Okay, okay, this is dream dream, dream floors in which we have we have a photo studio, we have a like area where i can do my aerial silks because I'm addicted to the stuff, to climbing up the curtain. Um and um. We'd have you know, we just have it all in the home and never leave. Occasionally go to the bodega and be like I'll have a diet coke and and goldfish. Yeah,
and also fourteen year old run. Yes. They will still intimidate me, truly, the girls on Fire Island or the most because I was just was like, I'm not blond. They were all blonde. They were all like thin, I don't know a thing, Like they were thin and their hair was thick and blonde. Athletic soccer girls throw it up there. Yeah, these were all my girlfriends in high school. Yeah, tied I sweatshirt, little shorts, oh, those slides and Nike
slides with socks. Yes, and then like they're just like, yeah, you want to get pizza? Tara. That was Tara Sarah. That was the big adjustment was coming from um Connecticut to Long Island. I remember I had a friend named Tara and I would call her Tara, and my mom was like, they pronounced it tara. A truly shout out to all my friends from high school who did this job. They pronounce it as if you're going into a foreign country. It's a real culture number sixty six. They pronounce it tara.
If goen here a very dewy thing. My grandpa once said, because he's from Brooklyn, and he asked my brother where he lives, and he said he lives on Myrtle and no Strand. And my my grandpa was like, you're pronouncing it wrong. It's pronounced mortal's fanning her hands up. Might wait. There was something that I was going to say when we were talking about Fiddler, uh when so you ustimately
the translation. There was one thing that was very odd because, um, so there's that song where Tea is singing, you know, and and the lyrics are a little bird, little cavala, of course, and so the word for little bird is fagila,
which is also the way you say yeah. So there it was just like this whole song of being like little fig and I just was saying, they're being like, oh for gay too, or yes, it's it's like it's it's dog under drog and it was just like a full number of little fig. I just was like, oh my god, my old man Tamber, you just gave your voice. Jake and I were like grabbing each other. Jake's my brother, you know. For the fans, that's very funny and and
honestly funny. What nothing, Please more high junks. It's time for I don't think so, honey, and I don't think so honey. It's actually our one minute second where we take something in culture that doesn't sit well with us and we have one minute to rant on it. Okay, And here's the thing. I went ahead and got something. It's a pre select it. You might even say it's a pre select. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey, and his time starts now. I don't think
so honey, Easter. It's fucking weird. First of all, he rose, Yeah, I don't think so honey. You all look the same. Y'all had long hair, and I'm assuming abs at the time he died ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Sorry, Christians. Okay. Also, I don't think so, honey um, the whole Easter bunny of it all? What it's a large rodent. Why are we allowing this to be Listen, if I see a rodent, it's going to get exterminated. Hamy, I don't think so hides eggs on kids. That's frustrating. I don't want to
look for ship. I want to know where things are. So what's in the eggs? Coins? They should all be taken out of you as units of of not culture of currency. It's about dollars, honey, and that's actually real of culture. Here's the thing about ter um. What are we eating? Ham truly like non specific? At least we know Thanksgiving we're getting a specific feast, which is a Turkey feast. Honestly, Easter, you have nothing more like Easter. No one likes Easter, and of course no one likes you.
It's actually culture number forty six. Easter more like Easter, like Easterday, no one likes you, bitch, more like Easterday. Easterday. So Easterday like a bird story flown away. Honestly, that work. I love being mad about him because it's non specific. It's non specific is that holiday where my parents are always like Happy Easter, and I'm like, oh, I forget that people care, you know what I mean. That's that one. It's when Jesus came back. It's when he made his
big return, when he when he dropped his ep. Yeah, it's when he's had just kidding, bitch. The bitch is back and he came back for a literally like truly five seconds and then rose up. That's the thing that always gets me is that he showed up and then he left where it was literally, so he's resurrected, and everyone everyone fucking loses their minds and then he immediately pieces and wait then wait, I thought he came back and did more good stuff comes he comes back and
he's like, hi, does he get killed? So he gets He famously was crucified, and then three days later he rose again. And basically what he does when he's risen is he says to everyone in being risen, like I was real and your belief in me was not in vain, and I forgive you for allowing me to die, and I forgive you. And the theme of of of my existence is you know, forgiveness and etcetera, and then rising, and he rises and he goes back and he's like, I am I am God, I am the Son of God.
And by and then he goes to have him and and that makes that has actually has absolutely nothing to do with Easter eggs? Where do the eggs come in birth? I mean it's like, you know, oh, is that it? I think that's what it is. So what does the rabbit have to do with eggs? Um? What's the rabbit do? Rabbit to lay eggs? I think it's I think it's like I think it's I think the rabbit thing is
actually like a fusion of pagan imagery. Like hardcore Christian people hate East hate um Easter activities like they hate the rabbit, they hate the eggs. So like that's the rabbit stuff is like pagan imagery mixed with like Christian imagery. That's what it is. Well, and with that, I don't think so honey and his time it starts now, I don't think so many responding to my dms with emojis. Don't dismiss me, bitch. I want to keep talking to you.
You're gonna end the conversation. You can just end the conversation on a word honey, truly try it out, bitch, because you're rotting your brain by tapping back a fucking hard eyes emoji at me. And I don't know what that means. Do you want to have sex with me or not? This is this is not targeted. Don't unlike you to bail realizing this is not exclusive to sexual d ms, it's also exclusive. It's inclusive of all types
of d ms. Emojis are dismissive, and I think we should all clock that and say, you know, don't, don't push me away. I respect your boundaries, but you can tell me that with words and not with imagery and glish invented by Japanese people that you were now you are now not appropriating. You are misappropriating, misappropriate, honey. I don't know what that means, but I stand by and look. Emojis emojis are only should only be used for tweets and texts, that's one not dms. How do you respond
if if a random person responds to your story? That's what I'm saying. You don't respond? You do respond? See I feel bad if I don't respond. Of course you do, because it's rude. I saw the heart you do you double tap, or you send heart emojis, or I say ha ha, or I say you know, like yeah, if you like, if you if I double tap the message, I love that. That's perfect. If someone double taps my message, I'm like, great. They don't want this to dip into
a full conversation. I can respect that. But the emojis are this weird liminal space where you are telling me you have a boundary. You don't want to keep going with words. I don't know if that's true. I think that's kind of the implicit understanding. See. I think it's interesting because it always has to end at some point. It does. Can you can be like I missed the days when you'd be like T T I L. I
talked about this on se treatment. But because I talked a lot about sweeping the scene in improv, I would say sending an emoji is sweeping the scene. It is. That's okay, fine, all right, Well, maybe you just have to deal with the fact sometimes people just are done talking an improv expert. Yes, Sandy, that's my web series, look it up. Okay, So who's about to do one? I can't remember if I did this on a live show or not, but just improv Queen Sandy Jonah, Yeah,
really good at improv. I don't think so, honey. Squatty potties, Okay, have the decency If I am coming over to your house and your squatty potty is still in the bathroom, I don't think so, honey. I don't want to see a white plastic geriatric thing in your bathroom that is covered in your piss pubes and it is like especially in a male household or you know, I don't want to say male, because that is you know, that is transsclusive.
But you know, if you're at a home with Dix and you are pissing in a toilet and you have a squatty potty, you gotta put it away when you have guests. I don't know what to step on your piss. Also, what are you a baby? What are you a baby? And your geriatric what you can't you can't shift probiotic? Eat a band? I'm sorry? What do you need to put your ears? Your legs? Buy your ears for Okay, I don't think so, honey. The squatty potty needs to go,
put it in a closet, put it away. And I'm unclear because okay, I'm with you on they shouldn't be displayed as prominently, and probably because I don't necessarily when I'm in the bathroom, I want to forget that anyone else has ever exactly I picture the person every time I if I see a squatty potty in your house, I'm going to picture you getting a ship with your knees by your ears. And I don't want that image
and I don't want to see it. And I will say, though, recently, I went to a house and this guy had a wooden squatty potty that was elegant, honestly constructed, because there's no dumb little grooves where pissing ship gets caught. That's why would it be white? I know, why would it be white? You can see everything, I guess because most most bathrooms have like prominently white like a coloring, which is also wrong. Toilets should be brown. Toilets should be
brown and yellow. You know what, Yeah, because that would solve a lot of issues. I used to have a like black toilet. Those are so sleek, but you can still see the poop clinging to the bowl. I love a black toilet anytime I'm like it's like it's it's sexual. Can you get a pink toilet? Get this? Have you ever shipped on a toilet with a fuzzy seat like with like a like a like a like like It's crazy when you think about it, because if poop gets
in that like Mattress's seed cover, it's not coming out. Well. The other thing is how many times have you been in the bathroom and there's a little tinkle on the seat and then that and then you think, okay, so this is just in there? Just yeah. I also feel like if you leave the bathroom and it's not spotless, that's bad. You need to take toilepeper and wipe the sea. Yes, wipe the sea and true. And also I'm sorry. I know we're all trying to save water, but I flush
your piss. I don't want to see piss in the toilet. That's how That's who I am. Well, it starts to stink. Yes, it also stains, And it stains, it stinks. It's it's called the courtesy flush people too, because sometimes not one flush is enough. I know, you know what what, I moved into an apartment three years ago. I have never once clogged this toilet. Good for you, it's a good No, it's a good bowl. No, it's always about it's white,
but I got a pink seat for it. Gorge gorgeous, and you know what else is gorge this entire What a fun time. I had fun. This was please to know that we can connect over parrohead culture, it's huge. I really don't know. Anyone else says, yeah, it's huge to know that his book is truly sitting right there. And I clocked that before and I was like, oh my god. And then when you said that, No, I don't in the book. I've never read any of his books.
I didn't. I didn't know about the books. You didn't know that he was already did not know about the look? Is that a novel? A pirate looks looks? Sorry, I'm sorry. So it is a song as well? Oh it is? I hope he writes. I could write a novel based on every one of his songs. They're so deep, go hard. They all tell the story. And some of it funny too. Yeah, I mean, why don't we get you know? One makes me laugh. There's one I don't remember. It's like called
the weather is here. I wish you were beautiful. The weather is he I wish you were beautiful. Yeah, yes, what a beautiful beautiful you know. It was a really quick good one. Fruitcakes, fruitcakes. Its funny, Okay, comedy takes us about everyone's crazy. It's a comedy song. I I it's a comedy song, is the thing, and this is much. The thing about Jimmy Beckett is that he towed the line between comedy musician and Earnest rock. You could say
he's a singing comedian. He's a singing comedian. He's like he's a weird out just oh my god, this is insane, jutting out crazy statement. No, I'm just it's so funny that but like to prefer to him sitting in comedians but kind of, isn't that weird? It's the ultimate character. It's the ultimate character. He is gonna on his last day of his life. He's gonna say, fucking you all bought because the fact that we've all bought it is
so funny. Yeah, god, it's like I was just gonna say, he's gonna go Andy Kaufman, Mitch, Yeah, this year for Andy Kaufman. He actually I heard he's uh, he's gonna get Jfl's. He actually doesn't have a comedy wraps um, this isn't thank you so much for being thank for having This is the most fun. And you know what, We end every um. We end every episode with the song. I don't think we all know what that song is going to be. She's burning Paradise cheeseburger and Paradise Wow.
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