On The Tenth Day of Culture... March 25th, 2001: Best Actress Julia Roberts? The Oscars Get it Right for Once

for the first time. Um, and uh, you know this this series is sort of doing that, and so it should be celebrated in the way I was celebrated when I became ten years old, which was my parents got me tickets to see maur I Carry at Madison Square Garden. That was my first concert ever and it came on my tent birthday because it was double digits And that's huge. Was that not one of didn't you know at the time that that would be and was the best day

of your life? One of the best days. I don't think any person has ever had a gayer reaction to me opening that was Mariah Carry Madison Square Garden tickets and we should say they were absolutely horrendous seats, but it didn't matter because it was my first concert ever and it was the Heartbreaker tour where I knew the whole gig was Mariah was going to be facing off with miss Bianca. So this was huge. You know how there's like a kingmaker. This was like a queer maker.

This was like queer making event, queer maker. My parents were the queer makers in that moment. They solidified what was already sort of chemically brewing and all because double digits quote unquote are a big one. We've brought this up many times throughout the podcast. But I think very fun thoughts when I think of you as a child and thinking, oh goodness, what would life have been like if we had found each other at that age? Would

we have been friends? I think we would have. I think we definitely would have, because I correct me if I'm wrong. But you were like an outdoors kid, not really know in you weren't like riding bikes, not in the way that you're that you would associate with someone growing up in Colorado riding bikes. Then you know what we would have been video game friends. We would have been, But you don't like video games? No. As a kid, oh,

I was obsessed with video games. My I had the classic mother that was like, you know what, you can't know video games? That was all she could say to me to ruin my life. Very classic mother, you know what you punished, You're punished, You're punished. That She would always lead out to it by saying, oh, you know what you punished? Punished and I just got no, And I would say, what is it? What's the punishment? Should say you can't do video games? And I go, how

would she enforce that? She would take the console away. I just wasn't allowed to go down there and do that. See, this is like a fun and interesting difference you had. Maybe I'm gonna say, let me just go out, and this might not be true. In fact, I don't even think it is. We'll correct you. If you're wrong, I'll gather you right up. If you say something wrong about my family, you say, if you come from my family, I'll gather you right up. I'm not saying something wrong.

I'm putting you on notice. So this is for the purposes of this. Let's say your parents are less strict than mine, and yet whenever they would be strict with you and be like, no, you're grounded, you're punished, you

would actually obey them. Yes, But whenever my parents would say my parents wouldn't let me watch Saturday Morning cartoons for like a while, because they said that it was like rotting my brain because I would get up at like nine and watch all my shows all day and they'd be like, oh my god, Bowen, it's it's ruining Bowen. They would lock the basement door. It was one of those button locks that you press on the knob right

and then on the other side. It's just that whole. Yeah, for the longest time, I couldn't figure out how to unlock it. But I need just took like a chopstick or something, or just like it was either chopstick or you were that defiant. So I was just like, I don't I need to watch Digimon, I need to watch yu gi Oh, I need to watch all my my kids that you beat my Fox Kids programming honey, And I would take like or like an Alan wrench and then I would just like unlock the door and Alan wrench. Girl.

You were defiant. You were defying your parents. Yeah, I think that what's happening here is I think I had a scarier dad than you. My dad's personality has changed so much from when I was younger, like especially like when I was in like um elementary school, middle school, Like I think it was probably the way he was disciplined, but it was sort of it was it was not I never never violence, but always just like threat based. It was like you better do this thing. And I

was like, huh. And now it's so weird to even think about the fact that he was ever that way because he's the most gentle person ever. But it's so interesting, like, yeah, he's he's a sweetheart, but but he was, you know, he was a strict parent. Like I was not allowed in high school to be drinking at all. Like I had a lot of social friends that like their parents were like loose about that whatever, but that kind of dad that was like, you may not do this, not

even a family parties. That was my dad. I had a strict dad in that way. And my mother was very like, that's what your father says, and she agreed. I I believe that because so that's why I would never defy them, because it would be it would be mine. I would. I would steak around them and then I'd locked the door again and pretend that I never went down there. But then at times, at the times I

would be caught. It was like a big blowout, but like the same thing with the video games, Like my dad the first console I ever owned, because they never let me get an N sixty four or Super Nintendo or anything. The first one I was about to get was in high school and at that time, the PS two had been out for years, and I was like,

can I please buy a PS two? Fine? But then it got out of hand in his eyes, and so he hid the console and then I spent like forty five minutes looking for it, found it, new wher he had it every time, and then just like would sneak out, sneak in, or sneak around the house, and like he hit it in like the little section of the basement that was unfinished, and I would go into that section, know exactly where he hit it, and then just play it,

plug it in. This might be a controversial call me for you in the moment, but I just I don't think my house was big enough to pull anything like that off. Like I feel like my parents would never have that, they would have seen me doing it. I've seen your childhood house, though, no, but this I lived in a house before that that was like my major video game house. And I'm telling you, like that house was There's no way I could have gotten a way

with that. So I think you just had a big house, bitch. Honestly, if I'm ever going to raise kids, on the off chance that I do, I gotta raise them in a tiny house. It cannot be too big because they get sneaky, Because they're gonna be sneaky like you, they get sneaky. I need, I need to have my eye on them. Oh and you've grown up to become an even sneakier person. Yes, sneaker. How what's your what's your parenting style going to be? Well?

If I had children, I think I actually be a very good parent, and I would try to be um hands off about types of things that like just let the kid experience this that the other thing. But then again, like I don't know, because I feel like i'd be more scared for a child that I was knowing what's out there, because it's like worth being scared about. I

don't know. I probably also will not have children. I probably won't, but my fears that I will want to shape my child's personality in such a way that is ultimately destructive to their emotional health, like I see it now with parents where I'm just like, you are trying to make this kid a certain person, just internally, not even like not even like the way, like that's hard. I'm just like, mmmm, you're grafting it onto them because it's what you want, and that's unfortunately, like at the

essence of every parenting mistake, I don't know. We should also say, though, that there truly is no right way to do it, and it's also the hardest thing in the world. And who are We're too childless faggots, We are no one to see you to judge at all. And I'm saying, like, literally, that's the reason I had to take the question again. I tried to answer it once and then had to take it again because this

confounds me so much. I have no idea what level of responsibility it takes to really give your attention of the time and resources of the time to another person, Like that's crazy and truly hats off. I just would not want to find out how I'm gonna funk up my kid, And I'm listing ways I think it could happen because I feel like I could commit any of them, Like, parenting must be crazy hard if you are, first of all our reader parents, Doug says hardest. Doug, we love you,

we love everything. Anytime you've talked about your your daughter, I think, well, Doug must be a great father. It's the it's the hardest thing. I don't doubt that at all. If you're a reader and you're a parent, we love you, We love you someone. Everyone who has raised someone now in the world we love so much. We love everyone has raised someone else in the world. We love you tonight. I love the way you made world two syllables in a way world you get you did world or I

guess it wasn't all. It's about two separate syllables. And you change the note, which I love. Sing sing World, Sing World. I can't I can't do I can't do it. No no, when you didn't prompt bow and if you sing the word world right now, it's going to bring peace. Do it World. And and that was bad. And that was bad because I was on the spot. I was

put on the spot. You know what was one of the best moments in the world, Our tenth Day of culture, Our tenth Day of Culture was a day that was a moment that was one of the best in the world. And it solidified something that we all had been feeling but then was confirmed. And it was a moment that an institution that claims to be a gatekeeper. Mm hmmm, as they say in the biz, actually got it right. We actually got it right. This is on the tent

Day Core March Best Actress Julia Roberts. The Oscars get it right for once. Wow again. This is where we might be revisiting some themes on the podcast. We've talked about Aaron Brockovich with Hunter Harris on our own independently, one of my favorite movies of all time. Look, this isn't just about Aaron brock By, which has been covered ad nauseum on this podcast. This is this is one of the greatest films. We know it, we love it. It's one of the great star turns in you know

movie star history, let alone best actress history. This is about the moment being met with the occasion and the Oscars getting it right for once and no one disagreeing. Universal praise, universal praise. But it wasn't a moment of anyone going I don't know about that. It was a moment that unified the world in a way we hadn't seen really since I think since the Nazis lost. I think since the Nazis lost the war. I do you remember that dress? Do I remember that dress? Do you

remember her date? Benjamin Bratt? I had seen this congeniality. Oh, I had seen it several times, and we love that she had such a handsome date on her arm. Who you know, did they make it? Certainly not? Certainly not? But did I believe they were in love that night and nothing whatever come between them and the support that he gave her. This is one of my favorite movies.

As I've said, it's also I think one of the best movies based on a real person, you know, and biograph movie because they as they call biopic, as they say, a genius one, and really it does what biopics I think should do more, which is not trying to tell the entire life of a person, but take a defining moment in their life and let that speak volumes about who they are. Okay, should be the biopic way, like for example, you know, you could you could call I

don't know, what's what's one? That was? Oh my week with Maryland? Did you see that? This? This is just like a moment in her life? But I think The film captures who she was and what her life's predicament was quite well. And I feel that this Aaron Brockovich of it All, did that very same thing. And Albert Finney, you had Aaron Eckhart had so many, so many wonderful,

wonderful actors. Oh my god, you had the woman, the woman with the red hair who was in oh wait, yes, the red haired woman who was in What else was she in? She was in shoes, the woman. Okay, hold on, some of our years probably know this. They're screaming. There. She was in Brandy Cinderella. Yes, one of the sisters in Brandy Cinderella was the one who was listen. I just think we've gotten on the wrong foot here. She was like an iconic name, Priscilla. No, that's wrong. Hold on,

Our readers know this, Hunter Harris, and she's listening. Is yell laying at us through her sub stock Vianne Cox, Minerva. And you're just saying names, Yeah, Anna, you're just saying names. Teresa, Teresa. Okay, I'm sorry, but that was worth it. Teresa is a huge annoying lady. Name Karen is taken off, but Teresa, that's a real white woman. We need to fear Teresa,

and we end readers who are named Teresa. We mean that in the way that the name conjures up a feeling in a movie, in the in the structure of a movie, you see, you understand there's two women. You have to choose one of them that you like more. Aaron Teresa. No, we love Aaron. We love Aaron. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And you know who's famously named Teresa, miss mother Teresa. And still we're on this podcast saying what we're saying, and I don't think either of us are

backing down. No, but then you have people like Teresa May and we're not gonna ever say we like her. Kidding me, no, no, no, no, sorry, Theresa Caputo get lost. Aaron Brockovich. I just think it's just like every scene

Julia nails it. It's crazy. Yes, And because of this, we looked to the Oscars to sort of put the stamp approval, and um, this is I think what this is actually honestly is when I think back to my childhood and when I got obsessed with the Oscars, this is like the perfect moment because as a kid, you know, there weren't too many celebrities when we were that age was like the big ones were the big ones, and

Julia Roberts was the biggest celebrity. So her to win an Oscar for a movie where she was doing all that, it was it was again queen making moment so interesting to think about because a lot of people will say something like Julia Roberts is sort of the last big movie star actress, and I don't think that's true. I just think people are having an of distance now from the nineties to say that was such a bygone era

that will never have again. But it's like in Julia Roberts in the nineties, you were like, we're never going to have it on Elizabeth Taylor. It's like it's just this is just this, like twenty years from now will be like, gosh, we'll never have another Alicia of a candor or like Florence. You know what I'm saying, And those are weird examples, but you know, like by Florence, I don't buy Alicia. I know, I knew, I knew

you would say that. I don't register Alicia Candy. I don't I don't know her, and yet she has an Oscar and the Oars did. Did the Oscars get that one right? Would you? I would say no. I would say no, even not being able to remember what she looks like. I think she. I think she won for the Danish Girl, which was like an Eddie redmain Um performance in which he played a trans woman Um and she I believe one the supporting actress asker for that one. That which what How riled up are we nowadays about

the Oscars just getting it wrong? And we feel like there's just the contant. It's not as bad as the Grammys, I don't think, but Oscars. I feel like there's never there hasn't been a year in a while where everyone's like, wow, well Parasite was was a moment where it was gotten right. But I also feel like, while this is the way I feel about the Oscars and pretty much any major awards now, it's like, when they get it right, I like to celebrate them, and when they get it wrong,

I like to be like, well, it's all fixed. Like when something is deserved and I feel like it's getting a moment, I love to celebrate that, and then when it's like a ridiculous thing that shouldn't happen, I'm like, well, I mean the whole thing anyway, right, Like I can, I can devalue these major awards like at the top of a hat if I need to, But if something

I like happens, I'm like, it really was deserved. And you know, of course, like a lot of gay culture is like, you know, watching these awards and like understanding what they are, but at a certain point you do have to call bullshit. M of course all of it. But when they do something like Julia Year on your feet, when Julia is pushed through, you're like, oh, but that's just the system working the way it should. Yes, absolutely. Meanwhile, it's like, you know, they're still doing it this year,

and what has even come? I don't And I guess, like I would imagine next year will be so crowded because everyone's gonna release their movie next year that's weighted this year or I don't know what will happen. But this year, I'm kind of like, are we having an oscars? What happened they're having in person? I think they're April.

Now they're in April, right, I mean I I literally know they're happening, Like I know they're just pushed back, but it's just bizarre to me, Like, I feel like, what are the Oscar movies quote unquote that you've seen this year? We are in December. I think truly like the thrill of a filmgoing experience this year for me was because it's all blurring together. I'm like, oh right, like, yeah, fucking that Charlie Starren movie that came out on Netflix.

I'm like the one, yeah, the Old Guard, like that was June. And then like the last movie that I like felt like I was like truly like enjoying was like The Hunt. Honestly, yeah, I was like it felt like I was like kind of like jacking into like a movie going experience. I don't think. I don't think I've had that this year, which is unfortunate. I mean, like, I guess the Oscar movies are like MANK, which I didn't even really know what it was, and then I watched the preview for it and I was like, oh,

I don't want to watch that. Yeah, I mean, like I I will because I'm sure it'll start racket up nominations from places, but like, is that the Oscar movie

this year? The other night, I watched the movie Let Them All Talk, which is the New Stephen movie with another film, Yes, Diane West and Candice Bergen, and they improvised basically, basically, I think a large vast majority of the dialogue was improvised by the actors Lucas Hedges, has Also and Jemma Chan and they were given like outlines of scenes and like told to improvise based on that, And as a result, the movie to me felt like more of an experiment than an actual movie, A good

experiment that I enjoyed watching a lot of Some of the dialogue was fun. The performances are great, but it's just not really a tightly constructed good movie. Wasn't like an art experiment that happened on HBO Max with Meryl Streep about I mean, we were we were semi joking about about Julie Roberts winning the Oscar for this being a moment that united the country the world over. But no one likes the same movies anymore. That is another thing.

I feel like those well that's not really true because sometimes a big blackbuster movie comes along and is nominated, but it doesn't happen a lot. Even when Paris I came out, you had people be like, I'm gonna be a devil's advocate and say that it's bad, like, yeah, it's just that's just but that's just the culture now, unfortunately,

that's the big culture. It did feel really good to see at least that room on television that we were watching felt they were unanimously excited about a movie winning. And I think that is honestly, what's missing is just that moment where like green Book, Shape of Water, Yeah, exactly like when green Book and I mean Shape of Water people say is good. But like when movies like green Book win or like things like that, where it's just like, what is happening? It's like, where's the unseen

majority that's that's voting for this when it happens. Sometimes that way, it just can demystifies the whole thing because I'm like, I know, Green Book isn't the best movie. I know, right right, I just think them a lot in the last decade, it's been wacky as hell. Yeah, Birdman, I remember people being like, wait, what, like it's just been oscars. I mean we're joking in the title of this day, of course, get it right for once. They obviously have gotten it right before since then, but now,

like the conception around it. Maybe it's because we all sort of know how the as as a as a public, how the industry works, and how sometimes these awards are bought. But it's like, oh but wait there there needs to be like a year because what because what one that the year the Julia one seventy it was Gladiator. I think, oh, let's see, right, I mean I think I think the Oscars were Russell Crowe, Glad Julia Roberts. And then was that who won Supporting Actress that year? Marcia gay Harden.

For Marcia gay Harden was like the big surprise, But I remember it was like even Gladiator too, was like you didn't really question it. It was just kind of happening and it was a huge movie. But they don't really make those kinds of movies that are prestige and huge at the same time. Anyway, you really realize like how much has changed, Like like you used to have the industry tell you like this is a great movie and people would go see it. Now it's like not anymore.

It really doesn't happen that way. I just have I just like have not kept my ear to the ground about like the repercussions that like Warner Brothers is going to have on like theaters and ships or just like movies. It's like you saw Timmy shallow May's little um statement

that he made there on the end of SNL. He wore a shirt that said legend legendary right right, right, right right, which is the legendary is a dispute with Warner Brothers because you know, not ever, not everyone's on the same page about what Warner Brothers is doing about dumping all their movies onto HBO Max. It's it's controversial. I guess I'm worried, but it's already like the change is already irreversible ever since, like streaming has dominated our

lives even before the pandemic. I mean, I will say this, I am going to be very happy as someone who wants to remain safe for as long as possible to have of course, that's what I'll say. And I think that this is an inevitable and responsible thing that they're doing. Um. While I can also see the other side, which is, you know, it will be a shame if this hurts the businesses of movie theater and the model of going to the movie theater. But I really don't think it will.

I think that the industry will continue to be what it's always been, which is those big blockbuster movies. People are going to go see them in the movie theater because of that experience, and other than that, people are going to be streaming them because that ain't the fault of the pandemic or this one studio. That is what's

happening with the entire film industry. So you can kick your feet and scream and talk about like how this is, you know, destroying the movie going experience, but it's been destroyed, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, ever since bird Box, it's been over. Was the meteor that crashed on the dinosaur planet of Hollywood, baby and and as they say in the biz, ouch ouch I thought you were gonna say out damn spot. Speaking of movies of the time, like huge movies of the time, this is when like Armageddon

and Deep Impact came out. And you know, my ass was terrified of those movies. It was very scary. It

was as a kid watching those movies. It was very scary to think, Wow, where we could all die um as a result of a random cosmic event like huge time for like fatalism, porn in movies, like independent day, you know what I mean, like mass events that caused death huge in the late nineties, early OTTs, and I guess it's stopped with like not wasn't the last of them, but it was like that was the beginning where all of us had hit a wall with like, Okay, we

don't have to watch natural disasters or just like apocalypse movies. And then it moved into post apocalyptic where that's kind of different obviously, Yeah, but yeah, that you're right. That was the nineties and the odds were like that thriving

ground for those movies. Very interesting. What were we thinking and screaming for from inside our public consciousness, our collective consciousness at the time that we needed such titilating sort of world ending scenarios kind of makes you think, huh reader, Well, anyway, we're talking, of course, about the night that Julia Roberts one best Actress signifying that the Oscar said finally for

one scotten it right. And I would say that, um, Julia continues to be just to put a fasten on this continues to be one of the most interesting dynamic queens that we have out there ruling the screen. Would you consider her a queen ruling the screen. I would consider her a queen with an scepter in hand, waving in across us to the realm. But she's she's got two hands on it. My sister Matt is holding the sept I'm sort of holding the scepter. But look, this

is good improv. This is a good prop work. Like it's really good object work. Yes, yes, this is me holding a boom. Now I'm mime Girl podcast famously a visual medium. Julia Roberts is a queen ruling the screen once and for all. We serve at her pleasure. Mary fu kill Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, Cameron Yes, Oh I truly thought Cameron, Yes, was the most beautiful woman owner. Okay, so that means for a long time. So I'm gonna fuck her. Mary Julia kill Sandra. I'm sorry, Sandra, Sandra

with the blind side. It's funny that you have two Oscar owners in they were the queens that rolled the screen at that time. Because Meg Ryan kind of said I would have throwned like Reese weather Spoon in there.

Maybe you feel, okay, well, I feel I feel that Reese weather Spoon kind of rolls up the end half the way time interesting, I did address the full crim that you were setting, which was late nineties early ots made to late nineties, Yes, queens of this screen, nineties that went from like rom coms into like Prestige and my Action Press and Prestige. Yes. Yes, I'm unfortunately going to have to kill Sandra. Yeah, wow, joelk and Booster Shook. I know, I know, and um, I would have to

say that I would do the same. Well, let me give you when this go ahead and give it so made, Daddy gray Weatherspoon, Okay, it's already so hard. And Hathaway, oh my god, and I get ready, get ready for it. Kate Hudson, I would literally I knew my sister was going to do this to me because he knows that I love Kate Hudson. I live for her. That's why you're such a twisty snake. Is because now I just got actually hard I am, and this is rutal. I have to marry Reese because she is just She's everything

to me. I love her. She's been the star of all my favorite things. Legally blonde is one of my favorite things ever. I'm gonna have to fuck Kate Hudson because you gotta you gotta fun Kate Hudson, You're gonna kill in and I'm gonna kill and even though it hurts me, pains me so much to do so, I just feel like, out of the three of them, maybe we've seen everything we see to see. You think she's done it all. She has convinced me she's a legend.

She really has. I'm like, well done in as I take her out of the world, I think there is a future waiting for her as she as she continues to age up where she can do some interesting things. Can you imagine Anne Hathaway with like just a you crow's feet, some gray hair off. It's gonna be epic. It's gonna be truly amazing. But that's I guess, I don't know. Yeah, that's very hard, very hard bone yang And honestly, the readers are gonna be really mad at

me for fucking Kate Hudson. What's not to want to fuck with Kate Hudson. And I feel bad that Anne how to die because I didn't want to, Like, we love her because I love how much you love nine and almost famous and everything else. Sah, it's Saliano he loves the cinema. It's Saliano. I love her like stupid white girl performance of cinema and Saliano great, oh great o good via minetto like driving down, You are amazing. I feel like Kate, that's why you are Kay, you

are Kate Hudson. I think that I am and Anne, but that is there's so much beauty and power in that. We know that people think we try so hard, you know, But the thing about you and Anne, you try hard, but that resultant moments of sheer brilliance that none of your contemporaries aren't capable of. And that is Anne Hathaway down. She really stands above her entire generation. I feel and they said home the circus, the rodeo clowns. No, No, I've never been a natural. Try try me and Taylor

from the same cloth. Yes, whereas it's like me Kate Hudson and like honestly Brihanna. Kate Hudson is the Rihanna of movie stars. She doesn't give it, doesn't give a fuck. Jerry, that vary that energy like whatever, fuck, let's just go smoke out back. My parents are so fucking famous and rich. Is that Kate Hudson is a my mom's Goldie Hawn. Let's fucking smoke a joint. That's fine. She said those words verbatim. I guarantee you, dude, it's fine. My mom's

Goldie Hawn. What do you think they're going to arrest me? Be fucking crazy. My stepdad is Kurt Russell. I'm not going to get arrested for smoking a joint. One of you girls, girl, please, it's just becoming me now, everyone know, because that's what we're saying is that you're O Kate.

What are you girls listening? What are your girls? If you want to do a front facing video of Matt of Matt doing an impression of Kate Hudson as a teenager, I think there are so many beautiful layers to that that I think the world, the Internet will disappear because of the sheer impact. Should I do a wait for it, web series called teen Kate Hudson? Oh my god, Yes, that's so funny, Jean, Oh my god, that's the funniest

idea anyone has. I'm not even lying, anyone has ever had stupid to be continued to be continued, Well, the accountable readers we hold that hold not accountable on this Christmas week, okay. And what we have to say to Aaron tarn Brockvish to both Aaron, she's been remaining doing the good work. Yes, absolutely. And what we say to Julia Roberts winning the Oscar Best Actress, Julia Roberts, the Oscars get it right. For once, we say no, thank you for giving me pussy. My mom's goldie huk my pussy.

Right now, my mom is called and she has a sucking oscar inside for cactus flower. It's fine, smoke this joint, good boy. Now eat my fucking let's see. Oh wow, that just feels really bad. Stop you can stop, No big deal. Just let me drive you home. Okay. Bye,