Look man, oh I see you? Why and look over there? How is that? Cher? Yes, goodness, lost culture, a new day, a brand new day, and more gifts to be shown when you say, a brand new day, and more gifts to be shown and to share. Here's the thing, But when do you consider yourself a good gift giver? I really don't know. I don't know how to self identify. Because today I was just like, oh, should I get gifts for the office. I was like, well, that's a lot of people. It's a lot of people that I
was like, but I'm also like that. I was I couldn't think of a single thing. Like, here's the thing. Miss Heidi Gardner nails it. Every year I've heard tell of her gifts. She is a slay Every Christmas. Will give you thoughtful, queen, baked Goody's, queen Candy's gummies, queen things that you can immediately enjoy, up in the kitchen, up in the bakery, up in the partissary. Here they're everywhere.
And then on Saturday Night Live on stage, wild on camera, slaying Heidie Gardner, thoughtful, talented and ultimately fashion, fashion and a queen and a queen and her I'm sorry. You were going to say, ultimately a good gift giver, which I'm not because I'm like, I can't think of anything. Oh, Doug is saying mcribs, mcribs for the whole cat, for the whole casting crew. Yeah, get him a macrib you love it. So maybe, but truly, the dietary restrictions are
beautifully diverse. That's a dog, says Now, Doug says, what's Doug trying to say? Dog? What are you trying to say? Doug? Come in here, Doug, come in do come in here, Now, come in here, come in Here're gonna get We're gonna get you. We're gonna get We're gonna get to the bottom of this. Doug. What are you trying to say? This is this is engineer dog, this is Doug. Do you feel emboldened because before we got on, Bowen said that you looked handsome and hot with your new haircutter, Like,
what's what's going on? Yeah? Of course, I mean who wouldn't be right? What are you trying to What are you trying to say about the micrib? I was just trying to be funny. Well, what will you say? Consider? What was it? We want? We want to know. I don't think it's a good idea at all. No, No, no, really, of course not. I was trying to just for a second just be in that counterfactual space and be like, what would I do. I'm just gonna keep my mouth
shut from now. And I think you know what though, like, if you're going to insinuate that everyone at SNL should be given the micrib, then I just want to hear why it's a good idea, because as you as you heard bo and say there's a litany of dietary restrictions, he was just he was just kidding. I guess goodbye bye, Doug. That was the first time you heard Doug. It would not be the last. No. And see, the thing is, you know our producers, they chime in quite a bit,
and we love, we love their their interactions. But they shouldn't be surprised from this point on this challenge them when we say get on up here and sort of you know, explain yourself, explain yourself, prove it you have a strong opinion. Welcome to the world stage. Welcome to the world, world stage. Oh my god, I think this is gonna be a theme for this episode. I think that this actually is sort of what they call really
a Western culture a segue. Yes, well, first of all, before we segway and I will actually know now I feel bad for undermining your perfect segway. Yeah, oh, this is what I wanted to say. I think, as someone who has received gifts from you, that you are a very good gift giver because you gave me one of my favorite things. You gave me a pair of shoes that I love. I gave you a pair of shoes when I when I care about the person, and you
know how I care about you. You know that when now, okay you I feel this is a Whitney Houston song. But anyway go, I have to I I can be thought off the when there is thought to be had, like I can't be thoughtful when I don't Really, I can be thoughtful when there is thought. That is very real, Housewives, I can be thought when there is thought to be had. But for you, darling, there's no thought to be had.
It's very It's like a combination of Karen he grew with the care that I don't care about you, fuck you attitude of Nini, and the verbosity of Bethany. Yeah, and she's trying to like really smoke you out in front of and yes, yeah, yeah, are you a good gift? No. I think that I'm getting better now that I have time in the quarantine to sit around and think, like what's a good thing to get that person. If I'm busy, like it's it's something I need to prioritize more and don't.
But I've really enjoyed getting to kind of just take the time to think early about what I want to get people. And I'm actually, for the first year maybe excited about the things that I'm getting from people, just because I think that, um, they'll go over a well personally, and it's not just like i'd like to get someone, um, you know expensive, Yeah, like a humidifier, okay, or like one of those like small, tiny little humidifiers that like
you know what everybody has from Christmas. Yeah, you really went above and beyond for me this year for my birthday. So I can confirm that one that you are a good gift giver. I wanted you to be able to spend the records and I know I'm enjoying my setup so much, like I have a new record collection. It's like my new favorite thing that I'm doing seriously, it's like really filling itself out. It's like I've been a good hobby. You are you are enjoying this? Oh my god,
I'm rediscovering so many good things. Like I listened to you know this isn't too old, but just like like playing Casey Musgraves here by mar and must Well, I was playing. I was listening to Mary, but like Casey Musgraves Morris, Sorry, yeah, man Musgraves, she's a soupy about chicken pass the path was upon bas and Kassie Musprass, Maaron Mustspres. She's a hero. That's like an animated shot. I would like to scorge this um. But anyway, Yeah, I've been loving Golden Our on Vinyl. So good. And
now back to the segment. Remember when we know, hold on for a second. Remember remember when you and I were out here telling all the queers to listen to Casey Musgraves. We were years but we're you and I emailed our editors at Vultramore, like we have to write this piece about Casey musk Graves. Everyone needs to hi Key Loki, hi key lokey mid key. But like she was being paid dust by the queers. Yeah, until really recently. And I gotta tell you something. What I she is
has a song with choice on coming out. If it's not out by the time this comes out, I'll retract this. But I saw the music video today. It is stunning. Bitch. Have you seen the music video of Casey Musgraves and Miguel doing it. I might have talked about this before, but Miguel has that song Waves, and then he did a bunch of like covers of it that he duetted with other artists. So I think he might have done this. I'm making this up and he might have done when
he might have done with the Grimes or something. And then he did another with Casey and he would switch the genre, he would switch the It was great. It was genius for Waves. It was like this like slowed down. And the two of them have the most crazy chemistry I have ever seen. I mean, she is stunning, stunning. She's like she's like a runway model. Stunning, stunning, stunning. God, we love Casey. Oh. We were time about vinyls, right, Tom, We're talking about vinyls. But before there was a segue
which was taking the world stage. Well, hold on, yes, as gonna say it's meaningful that you bought me my first vinyl. Oh yeah, Teresa Tang And it's like so that she's the reason. She's like the first musical artist I was ever obsessed with. So it's it's it's all perfect. So once I get my setup going, it'll be great. That is what's nice about a vinyl collection, because you're
not just gonna buy every album on vinyl. You're gonna buy ones that feel like they're a time and place and you put energy into them that you would like to recreate in a special way on a record player. Because if I ever want to listen to something disposable like whatever, like a single from an artist I haven't invest in, I'll just pop that on like whatever, like
like Spotify, whatever I played off my laptop, whatever. But to buy an album and like invest in, it takes you back to a time in place and a feeling, which we love that. Um, so it's good to start it with something like TERSA for you. I love it. It's beautiful. I remember always talk about the world stage. What does it mean when someone is on the world stage. There's the period before you're on the world stage, and then there's the period after, and they call that the
grade before and the grade after of us stars life. So, for example, in the great before of someone's life, such as, um, you know Barbara streisand she was sort of you know, you know she was she was a Brooklyn girl, and she sort of rose up and started playing in clubs and places like, um, the Duplex, like you were saying, and then she rose in the New York scene, hit Broadway, was startling and funny girl. And then in the film she really hit the world stage and she want an oscar.
And I think the Second Day of Culture kind of covers that sort of Barbara streisand hitting the world stage. Star is born, truly, if you will, moments with our second day here the figure we're going to be discussed figure, We're going to be disgusting. So, Matt, what is on the second dayture? It was? It was gone? It was November eleven. Mary, Mary m Cosby hits the world stage. Oh my, Mary is here. Mary is here, and it's the second most important day of culture in a row
of the twelve. I as soon as you say the words Marry m culture hits the word stage, I'm hit with so many senses. Mary am culture, you too, call me out. You said, Mary am culture, Bowen said, Mary Mary M. Culture. It's a Mary M. Cosby. Bowen said, culture. It's a rule of culture. It's rule of culture number two. Mary M. Cossie. Bowen said, Mary M. Culture. But let's just when I say the words. When I say the words Mary M. Culture hits the words world stage. I
can see it, I can hear see it. She's wearing with a metallic, metallic blazer but with the Chris the green, that green Christmas tree looking dress. She's wearing that hideous garment, hideous garment, but she's wearing a blazer over at, a metallic blazer over it. Her hair is like is down um. She's got six inch long stiletto is also metallic, but rose gold for some reason doesn't Matt doesn't echo the metallic silver from the blazer. I should have said it
was a silver blazer. I see that. But I see her like with her arm on her hip and she's literally stepping on a miniature version of planet Earth in space like it's black behind her, but she's slamming her heel down on the surface of our planet. One of the most epic things I've ever thought about. And I hear this sound on impact on impact of her heel hitting earth. I'm literally, I'm not even joking. This is what I hear. I am edging hard. Do it crown like?
She hits the world stage and it's like it's like a stag. It's like a frown. Oh my god like and it's Mary M Culture, not Cosby m Culture, no hitting the world stage. And now we all know who Mariam Culture is. If you don't know who marry Am Culture slash Cosby is, reader Matt, tell him Marry M Culture and you know what, Yeah, we are taking the Cosby out of it. We're gonna take the Cosby bad things. Yeah, so we're taking it out. I do love that her
name is Miriam cos people. We're taking it out of it. She's Merriam Culture for this episode, all right, stupid. Mary Am Culture is the newest mover and shaker of the housewives franchise in Real Housewives of Salt Lake, and she has been the topic of conversation. Why. Oh, it's because she's currently married to you guessed her grandmother, who is since past ex husband she is. She is married to her step grandfather. The man that was basically her grandfather
figure is the one she is married to. Now you might think this is a little odd, Well, it was in her grandmother's will that one of her granddaughters do this so that she could eventually step into her shoes as the first lady of the Pentecostal church in Salt Lake City, Utah. Thanks right, she is. I don't know if they are ordained. I don't know the specifics in terms of um religious titles and maybe wouldn't want to know, and leadership roles, I maybe wouldn't want to know. But
she is, I guess an ordained Pentecostal minister. She oh, and she feels her fantasy, she feels her fan of But she is a professional orator in a sense. And yet the words that come out of her mouth are so shocking, and that, of course it makes sense. So the words like words like what you smell like hospital. I had to get my odor glands removed. It was a twelve different surgeries. I almost died twice on the table. They had to bring me back. They had to bring
me back. They had to bring me back. Or words like one of the one of the worst wildfire that killed people turned into some of the best grapes I've ever tasted. Out of context, they like they did you remember that from last night show? Yes, I distinctly remember them, like all coming in, all coming in. We should say to her met gala themed luncheon, to theme, to theme your your event after another event that changes themes is iconic, carthartic,
even it's cathartic. It was a startic moment in history to understand that the women had no prompt other than met a famously themed annual event. It was held in a restaurant in in Ostaria in Salt Lake City with a thin, thin red carpet that maybe had was four
feet in length total velvet rope. You had beefeater slash Christmas toy soldiers valeting the women out, opening the women's door, the car doors, and then two or three fake papar rocks or fake photographers snapping photos of these women walking inside this one story restaurant in Salt Lake City. And then they walk into their settings, to their play settings, where they are um greeted by a journal that has the words boss lady on them, and they're prompted to
write something about themselves. That they want the group to know as well as air pods. As well as air pods when we are understanding this to be a real person in the world, it's important that we lift that person up to the front of the culture now in terms of housewives and why we should care. Bethany Frankel is a part of the culture. Ninny Leaks is a part of the culture. To to move to move on, you know, Lisa Brenna is a part of the culture. Lisa vander Pump is a part of the culture. This
individual has the power, Miriam. Culture has the power to shake things up internationally. She has a great responsibility now to speak for us on an international on an international level, because these women, you know, they do they they're international, They're all over the place. Any Frankel, she's feared. She's feared in all nations across the across the world. She is one of the most fearsome figures. Do you remember when we saw her at the Emmy's I literally don't
and we were like, that's Bethany. Honestly, maybe I was more having a suity moment about it, or like that's fully Bethany, just out in the wild. I'm you must have blacked it up. Maybe you were so anxious, you know, like Big Night, the Big Night. Sometimes there's some jitters on Emmy Night, you know, on the Purple carpet, the Emmys. It just gets really feels so big, and you know you've been watching it every year since you were a
little and then all of a sudden you're there. You know, Miriam Cosby, which what kind of leader do you want her to be if she ever reaches that international international level, diplomatic, diplomatic leader, which I think she has shown. I like her to be a diplomatic leader, compromise, centrist, It could be the most centrist you we need. We need more centrism. We need more centrist. We obviously need more centrist. America has spoken we need to be more centrist and keep
things the same. We need to do nothing. Things need to not change. We need to be more centrist. Is the way things are going. Now, that's good. We need more more centrism, stay the same. Stop. I said, everybody this, these episodes are going everyone's gonna catch up. Just this is gonna this is gonna be weird. Matt. I'm sorry, everyone's going to catch up to the baseline. That I have been at this whole time, which is there is no one funnier than Matt Rogers. No, don't do that,
Matt are this is art. You're being ho ish. Stop. I'm just having a good time with my sister Sara. You know what I've been thinking a lot. How we have to make these twelve days of culture surprising coming from us. We can't have any bullshit like it's Disney s No, but I mean, it's well tried territory cannot be trod again. But Miriam Cosby is an exception because she's it's a Barber Strays and Stars moment, Bethany frankl potential. That's what I'm saying thinking. But you why are you
putting that limit on yourself? No, no, no, I'm look, we've talked at NaSTA if you want, but if you want to talk about Disney being a part of the there's bigger than Disney. There is so much bigger. So you're saying, you're saying, there's not going to be a Kelly Clarkson day. There's not going to beg My Jaws on the floor. I've I don't Kelly doesn't need she she are you? Are you going to commit to this.
There is no Kelly on this. Oh my god. Well, readers, okay, we should just say we were we did not do this like two hundred moments in culture history. We're doing this second by second. We are we are doing We're building this out like on like ad hoc creating. So you're saying that you don't want any Kelly Clarkson days. I have spoken about Kelly Clarkson enough and she needs the holidays off from me. She needs the holidays off from me. And we've done an amazing job so far
over two episodes. We have done the cultural institution of McDonald's and the cultural institution and cultural promise shown by Ms. Mary m Cosby, who said famously, what's her opening line? You smell like hospital. I'm a love god, but I will read you like script but I will read like a scripture, like like a scripture. I'm sorry. Also noticed that maryam Cosby feels no need to like say the housewives tagline like a housewife, or like do any of
her talking heads like in a housewife way. She is authentic, not she's not adding an extra layer on top of who she really is. You have to respect that. Oh, no, there is no layers. She is married to her step grandfather, she has a child with him, and now when her son is acting up about who he wants to date, she will have an opinion that explains it. I never thought of it like that. I'm a dumbo. I'm just watching these shows like fully. Oh, no, these are deep texts. No,
they are. They really are deep texts. I've never doubted. I mean, you know, our friend Natalie Walker says Housewives is Shakespeare. You're seeing pat those play out in these in these truly shocking ways that make you rethink how suffer for ring happens or joy happens? Can you literally believe though, that there's only been four house four Housewives of Salt Lake episodes, and already it's in the whole world.
I'm like, I'm like, I feel like I could slide into a booth at a restaurant with the girls and be like everyone, I have an opinion and I'm ready to share it. I don't like Meredith. I don't like Lisa. That's crazy. Meredith is the glue. No, she's the glue. Meredith is the glue, and I'm just engaging. I'm sorry, I'm not engaging, and I'm just engaging. No longer engaging, I said, I do, I just engage. I don't think you should talk to a woman like that. No, that's Lisa. No,
that's what. No, Lisa. Is Lisa crying because she has high goals. At the end of the episode, was I texted you about that, right? I was like, but I feel like I'm Lisa, So I did think it was hilarious that she started crying out of nowhere talking about her own goals. I was like, where is this going to go? That was the only non marry related thing that episode that I was like, oh my god. What. Also Meredith telling her something important about her life and
Lisa being like, is it gonna make me cry? Don't make me cry. I'm crying. I'm crying a lot. Okay, Okay, I'm not going Okay, I'm not gonna cry. Yeah. I didn't think of that. Wow, Lisa is it's to me? It's funny, Like literally, that entire scene. The thesis of that scene was Lisa tries not to cry while Meredith tells her about her separation from her husband, her the father of her children. Okay, The through line was Lisa did not want to cry. Okay, well, I guess this
is the thing I like. I like watching Lisa and Meredith, but they are not likable to me, whereas Heather at it Heather, Heather, Heather's growing on me so much. In a lot her her saying yeah, I'm yeah, I'm dressed to like a flapper and I have cankles, like calling the uber driver cankles. I'm like, Okay, she's so funny. And then I mean, I'll go over there if we make eye contact, but if not, I'm gonna wait from my chicken lollipop sticks iconic. And then Whitney I think
is really fun too. Whitney is great, great talking, She's really good. She actually is the one that has impressed me the most. I love that. It's like a thing that she get a stripper pole in her house, so she must use it a lot because the women I'll talk about it. Also just like she's not like, she's not against I don't know. When I saw her, I was like, oh, she's gonna be too sweet for me. But she talks a lot of ship and she's but
she says smart things. Yeah, she's always right. I feel like she hasn't said anything thus far where I've been like, Oh, that person has an issue that's deeper than anything I can get from justin them talking right now. Like, for example, Jen obviously has like anger issues, Like there's obviously a deep well of sadness there or maybe loneliness like she was saying, but I think crucially is like there needs to be an assessment of like what's obviously an anger problem.
Of course, Um, before we move on from Whitney, I feel like Whitney's sort of storylines that have nothing to do with the Housewives are mostly about her dad, and I'm like, oh, but like this is a really kind of like a like a lovely journey to follow, and there's a lot of like pathos there too, but it's like on its weight and it's on the right side
of things. Yeah, she is like she's like she's like a good audience circuit, Like you feel like you can place herself in her situation and understand emotionally, she's a lot like honestly, um, you don't watch Dallas, but Stephanie, I can see like there's this one Stephanie where she just like really opened up about the stuff that she's gone through, Like she she made a suicide attempt when she was very young, and she was open about it, and you she I talked about this with Joel all
the time. Because she's in both of our all Stars cast. If we put together housewives, you might like Dallas. By the way, No, I have no reason to not watch it. Yeah, yeah, but I get I literally get not watching it. It's like doubts on face value. I didn't watch it for so long. It's like Dallas, Like, am I gonna hate watching these like rich white women who have like Southern values, conservative values, like tow the line between like what's low
class and half society? And I gonna like that? I did? Um, that's how I fell going into some cities like am I gonna want to watch these wealthy women? And they're the most liberal cast? They are? They really are. It's it's interesting, Yeah, it's it is. It is interesting. Like Heather Gay said something that was really great about trans rights. Did you see this? Did somebody? Somebody comments? And on her instant I was like, how does it feel to
be the first trans housewife? Like like making it was horrible? It was it was like just trying to demean her. And she said, I am so happy to be an
advocate for the trans community if it's helpful. I think that everyone deserves equal rights and that everyone Like she just like went on and she was like, you're saying this as an insult, but like, if I can be someone who's visible that says that trans lives matter, that black trans lives matter, Like she basically kind of just took that opportunity to be like, I'm an ally just so everyone that follows me not. I love that because it's not even her like trying to like snipe back.
But she was just like, oh no, I refuse the terms of this insult that you are putting forward and I'm only going to go the other way. Like that's great, Oh my god, good for her. Yeah, yeah, it was cool to read. And this is before the show started. But I don't want to talk positively about anyone really in the moment of Mary culture. Oh no, this is
Miriam Culture's moment. Yeah, because none of them matter ultimately, but hitting hitting the world stage like mm hmmm, what I want to ask you, what do you see any sensory it's any sensory thing that it's associated the Greek theater. It's nine thirty. The show started at seven. The sky is black, but thousands of stars on stage, cutting through, cutting through, even the Los Angeles smock. The stars in a way, calling out, saying, we're here and we're ready
to be joined by a new star. Understand that we are your family. The stars screaming out for something. On stage is just that familiar landscape, you know, that familiar musical landscape. The drums, the guitars, the keyboards, all empty. No one is there in the audience, However, thousands of people screaming, screaming, Stars, Star. They're screaming for the star. H Star, come out, Star, screaming out backstage, just offstage.
The star is shaking. She is so trembleful, and she is such a star, like everyone knows it, everyone that sees her knows it. She has star quality. She's a star shines. But still she's shaking so much. And a man approaches her, and I mean, oh my god, I don't mean just any type of man. I mean a real man, okay, one who can handle some bricks and some wood and some trees. Okay. He has that rugged look of a man, not a boy, a simple boy, not a simple boy. And he says to the Star,
I will be with you out there too. He says, just those simple words, I will be with you out there too. He says, hey, hey, I will be with you out there too. And she sort of looks up at him and she says, I know this is about to change it all everything, and he just shakes his
head and he just said, you know. He's like yeah, And in that moment they not only just fall in love, but they start walking and then so emotional even for me, I was there, that I was there that night, you were I was there, and um, she gets start once the crowd sees her. It's just it's so clear, it's so clear she's she's Star. And Star gets to the mic and she looks out to the crowd and everyone's just like it's just a thick wall. And she holds
up one finger. She says, one thing. She holds one finger up, this one the pointer finger, just the pointer and everyone within seconds and it is silent, and suddenly the Star drops her hand and the beat comes in and she says, who tell me? That causes her to shoot into the sky. Salt it a fi in a gaseous form. She becomes her own son, planets circle around her, and the stars all around her turned to her because they too were once performers, and they say, girl, you
did that m and of story. You know why I love that? Because it referenced a lot of Lady Gaga immagery. No, no, it was because is Mariam. Culture is the why did you do that? People? That's a little culture. Mary. Culture is the why of humans? What rule culture is that there's many of them, There's so many and this joins that iconic group you are giving me. Can I tell
can I tell you something? Yes, everything you're saying has the same amount of gravitas that I associate with someone like Hillary Clinton, Barbara Walton, Well, Barbara Walters, Oprah Winfrey. You are you were laying down these This company is immense. I think you you've earned You've earned your place next to them. My friend. I take my platform very seriously and you do too, And I want you to know that you do something different. No, no, no, no, I'm
not done with you yet. You do something with your platform, which is that when you speak, you speak the truth. You're a seer and people listen, People listen. Don't forget earned everything that I learned from books, film, television, media. But that's the power of culture. You're even, you're not even, You're don't deflect the culture teaches me, and I'm just a vessel. You're giving the culture back. Radiating out from
you is the culture. You know what. Ultimately, it is an honor to hear that coming from you, My sister, thank you. Who has the taste that jumps out nearly seven times a day. The taste jumps out, which is way more then the taste jumps out of Let's just say this. Anyone who listens to this, no no, no, no, no, no no no, they understand the taste jumps out of bow and Yang more than most human beings. And we as readers and me as a cultures that has to
be humble about this. We are in the presence of bowe and taste Yang b T Why I take very seriously, Yes, the act of consumption. We will consume. Well, it's okay, we all consume. You know what I've been consuming from day one, Honey, you don't have to explain it to me. I've been there, and I've been there, I know. But I take seriously what I consume, and after a certain amount of time I don't know if anyone else does this, but I when I when I like something, I go
for it. Yes, and that's what I hope. I hope some people out there are doing this too. I can't be the only way. Are you doing this? Think about that, ask yourself that question right now? Are you doing this? I want every culture, rista and reader, whatever you got, your stupid idiots stop. I don't like it, and I lovely call them the stupid idiots. Yes. I want you to say out loud right now, are you doing this? Are you doing this? Just say that to yourself. Are
you doing this? And answer? You might not like the answer, but you have to answer, and you know what, I hope you say yes. And I just want to say that before we sing our little song. Thank you so much to Mary. I'm Cosby for hitting the world stage. Thank you life, thank you love. And it is true there is in this city and Miriam Cosby, Ah, I won't take you for giving me the best. Sure. Bye bye