On The Fourth Day of Culture... March 25th, 2003 - Celine Dion Makes Vegas A Thing

the second quarter, Yes, days of Culture. Day four, it's very like you know, April vibes not April of this year, but it's it's very like, um, you know it's April of the year we're in, and so we're it's we're just now like starting to write the right year on our fresh and actually, um, this day of culture is very important because a new day has come. You might say, hush, nowhe sky is that how it goes? I see a light in your eye. It's almost blind in your eyes.

He's almost blinding me. I can't believe very good. Selene was really good, and that's why I'm saying, you're Selene was really good, and then impression was good. Well, that's you should talk stupid because you just did an amazing impression of Selton John. We're no, we can't do that. Oh you're gonna tell me what we can't do. Yeah, okay, well I just wanted to compliment you on your impression.

Thank you, queen, thank you. Now Selene is so important and well we haven't even shared the day yet, but we're just telling you already. The reader revolves around it revolves around Selene. Yes, But the day of culture, um, let's just say um. On the fourth day of it was March fifteen, two thousand eleven. Selene Dion makes Vegas a thing. Vegas before this day not a thing. Then Selene started her Vegas residency, it became a thing. Matt.

You might have to be the full authority on this, because while I can be I can be someone of an authority on this on the Selene part, but you might be the Vegas authority between the two of us. Because I have not been to Las Vegas since two thousand seven. I want to say so. I haven't even been there for Selene. So wow, you've never seen like a big pop star Vegas show. Never, I gotta tell you,

I've actually only seen one. I haven't even seen ves Aguilera the most blackout I've ever been in my life. I want to go Seecristina Aguilera's tour. The way I like to sum it up is me and Dave went and as we're leaving, I said, I wish she had done candy Man. And he turned to me and said, she did candy Man. She did a whole outfit change for candy Man. Candy Man was an entire set piece. And I said, okay, And then we went to p F. Chang's and I don't remember being there. Um, but that's

like the kind of spirit I appreciate about Vegas. And to think that you could throw Marquis pop star in there, one that's things like a motherfucker. M hmm. That's a night. That's a night. I just want to really quickly shout out my sister, biological sister, Yang Yang, who when she was in college, I think her sophomore year of college, she saved up money to buy her and my mom a plane ticket to Vegas in a room at the Excalibur and ce Selene and she surprised her with that.

But like, that's a hard gift to pull off, even in college, especially in college, like it's it's hard to put any real big secret off, And so she kept it a secret the whole time until they were going I think she kept it a secret. And but they went with um my sister's best friend Roheeny and her mother. I believe what. They both went with their mothers, the four of them. What did they say? They said it was wonderful. Oh my gosh, I'm so sad I never got to see her. Well, remember we had tickets to

go see her in Manhattan. It was Madison Square Garden. We did, and then we was a cousk of COVID. It was because we just our schedules weren't working. Oh right, right, But it was like late it was like late February, right, Well, I think it was late January because we bought the tickets truly a year and a half before me if I'm wrong, it was like inside to me, it's all

coming back to me. Hello, like that? Like that? Okay, Anna says in the chat, I have seen the Celndon show four times in Vegas because my dad and his best friend love her. Okay, that's gay man. I got a gay dad, I know. Okay, let's just say that her dad and his male friend loved Celendon took their daughter to go see Selene. She's gay. Father, Stop this, they're out there why are you making fires? They're out there and they're liars. And can you do you have

any comment on me thinking your dad is gay? This is so disrespectful. You are being well I can't wait to follow this rad But the beauty of Selene is that she's universal. Everyone loves her. You you did not grow see, you're being blind to being blind to me. You're being blind to me growing up in Montreal and literally transcended every any demographic. You loved Selene no matter what, especially, I mean, you can't deny that. After my heart will go on. She was not like four quadrants like appeal,

like she was top of mind. Yeah, absolutely, she became the superstar. It's actually she was the Rihanna of her time. She Rina of her time. And that's not that doesn't get said enough. And that's a rule of culture. That's from real culture. Number seventy. Selene was the Anna of her time. You know what, Selene song I Love that came out recently and no one really talked about it, you know, taking Chances. No, that wasn't recent. Oh um, you know what's that? No? No, wait, let me guess,

let me guess it. Um, it's a noun and it ends its s it's yeah, what's it called? It's really good. It goes like this, I got my own imperfections, perfections, and I got my own set discostudde. I got my own imperfections. I can't hold you a hot when I'm fixing mine. And then she goes so she says, give it up, give it up. I don't want to same. It's so good. You have to listen to imperfections, imperfections

like when you're driving in the car, imperfections. H it's hard every Selene, I really need to take a moment to reconnect with her. I have not really appreciated her the impact of her music in my life. You know, I had this I had this thing too with Brittany the other day where I was like, wait a minute, I we have been raised by these women, as our friend Dave Mazzone says. She says that Brittany, Brittany raised us,

but Selene too, really, really, really in a very big way. Selene, it's because she probably was the same age as our mother's when she was huge. Honestly, say say your mother's age on the podcast. Let me do the math. Okay, yes, yes, you don't want um, why, yes, my mom is just getting done. This feels this feels like this honestly feels like a bridge too far, even for this podcast. Last culture raised is to say the age of our mothers on this podcast, but I don't want to explain. I

don't think we should explain why. I don't want to get into it just feels like this whole territory is not something we should touch. Bowen. We have to respect our mother's, yeah, we have to respect them. But I will say that makes sense to me that Celine Dion probably was a little bit younger than my mother, and therefore she at our age we imprinted on her and she was doing a very mom thing by singing the theme song to Titanic. Well, I'm telling you, it wasn't

even a mom thing. It's not even a mom thing. My heart will go on. Was was a gravitational like center. She's brought everyone together. I agree, No, I agree with you. It's just crazy And I don't know why I can't get out of my own way and thinking this, but I just can't see a world where the toxic masculinity was put to the side enough for straight man to be like I like my Heart Will go On? Like, I feel like we are living in such a time right now where the master of the toxic masculinity, and

we're so divided. And that's really what I wanted to talk about, is that we are so divided right now that can't we all just remember a time we all just like Celine Dion and shut the funk up and we're centrist. Oh my god, we need to go back. Let's go back, Okay, hot head of content Hans says, My first dance with the girl was to my Heart Will Go On? School? Third grade? Okay? And what happened? Anything didn't move forward? Was this was the tension thick

gone Hans? Something moved? Oh no, he made a joke about his little third grade self getting the peepee pop to a girl while the th was playing My Heart Will Go On. That's how Wait? How old is Hans? Because I was in the third grade. I was in the second or the third grade when Titanic came out. We can't know. He's a man. We can say his age. It would be wrong, what would be wrong about grade?

So he could be wrong about the grade? Alright, So I think that he know we were in second grade when Titanic came out, so I think Hans was like in middle school. To be honest, Hans, Hans, you were in middle school when you popped a And let me just say something, third grader popping a boner. It's like a cute seventh grader popping a boner discussed fifth you know better eighth grade. He says, Oh, wait a minute, do I mean? Those are all great stories? But you

might know someone that worked on a Selean Dion song. Doug, which Selene song? Did you? What Selen song did you work on? We have to know this is imagine He says, something iconic. What if we argue our engineer has what if he engineered taking chances that iconic? I love taking chances so much. Grammy, I didn't know Doug as a Grammy He's mentioned it. Doug said, doesn't look at it was early. Wait, Doug, Grammy, our engineer, Doug has a Grammy award already, steal one from Steely Dan freak, Oh

my god? Are you? Are you ready for it? Taylor Swift hold on me, tell me, okay, give the Douglas bab was an assistant engineer on the album Let's Talk About Love yees. So the album that had and when the title track My Heart Will Go On and Oh my God, one of Selene's hugest albums. I think it was the defining Selene album. Doug, can you come in, Doug, please come? Immortality with the bgs? Yes, she tell him with Barbara, I believe, tell him with Barbara was on

this album. What can you tell us about working with Selene? Well, Corey Hart wrote the song. Do you remember Corey Hart? Yeah, Corey Hart. Oh no, never mind, that's Corey Hame. I'm thinking of Corey Hame, Corey Hart, and he was the producer and Selene came into like shing and got the hell out. That was I met her once really quick. But you did get to hear her sing oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She was great. She would come in and nail at

the first try and leave. She sang it maybe three times down and wait, what what song was this though? I'm gonna look it up. Corey Hart, Selene Dion, Let's talk about love. I'm just I'm just looking at the credits on Let's talk about Love. This is incredible dog wow. Okay. So in the Heart wrote and produced Miles to Go before I Sleep and Where Is the Love for Selene Dion's multi platinum album Let's Talk About Love. So it was obviously one of those two songs. Wow, this is

kind of excited about him. He was cool. I mean that was I loved Sunglasses at Night. So you were more psyched about the guy that wrote and performed Sunglasses at Night than Selen. But I didn't really know. I didn't know her yet, so that was what do you mean had already cared out? Well? I mean, I it wasn't really in my scope of things. I see, And this is what I'm talking about. This is that toxic patriarchy. And they say, Selene Dion quote unquote wasn't in my scope.

Thank you, Doug. We have heard enough. You've contributed in the in the ways we needed you to thank you. No, no, no, dog no, you're back. So this is what I'm saying. So don't tell me that she was for a quadrants. We got this fool who worked on the Damn album and he still I didn't know her. He said he's Mariah Carry So I guess not. There's still such can I tell you there's still such a long way to go?

We Oh my god, I think every single day when I watched the news and hear about what's happening in the world. I think all the time we have such with every just in general, oh my god, in the world.

We have such a long way to go, and so and so we can just have you know, engineer or Grammy winning engineers who work on Selene Dion albums Karen enough to know what the title of the track was and not just remember that the guy that did Sunglasses at Night wrote it, this is heterosexual and it's and I say that with all the malice in my heart. It's heterosexual. Nothing can take away with Selene has given me, though, No, and and the thing is he really just tried. He did,

indeed try, and he did not succeed. No, he did not. What is your favorite Selene Dion song that you are so fucking mad you couldn't see her perform live in all the vaguest splendor. It's really hard. I mean, it's I mean, I mean, I have my my answers, the easy one, which is it's all coming back to me now. I was gonna say it would be tough to go an entire gay life and never have them seen that perform live like that makes me feel like maybe we should have tried to make it work that last jan

I know, I like, for some reason could not. I couldn't have done it, Yeah, because you probably were working, and I think I was working at the time too, and it wouldn't have made sense for me to fly act for like a Friday night show, which I believe it was. But it was like a decision. It was a decision because I was so excited to go God,

I mean that all by myself, Beauty, beauty and the beast. Wow. Also, honestly, I would kill to just see her like sort of goose around the stage singing Drove all Night liked is that all right? I was like thirteen years old when it came out, and the lyric of well, First of all, my sister bought the CD from Costco or Sam Goody or wherever, and she would play it in the car on like you know, drives to Chinese school or violent

or piano lessons. My mom would want to listen to sleep because Mom's love Selene Doug, but so does everybody. But I Drove all Night would come on, and then the lyric woke you from your sleep to make love to you made me made me feel a little uncomfortable around my mother at the age of little hans Ish. Little Hans is a little things while something moved while

dancing to um, my heart will go on crazy. Um. I think that another bop that you never know when this song is going to come on and slay you, but it is. And that's no way. This is the one of the greatest hits of all one of the greatest songs. Can I tell you some little bats? Yes at s n L. Well this isn't really bats, but we were always going to close bunch or high with That's the way it is genius. Anytime we would run it, anytime we would read it, anytime we would you know,

just like see what it felt like. It always was thrilling to like people were thrilled. It's it's a it's a it's an energizing song. Everyone's just like, oh my god, what is this magic? It's a magical song. It is a magical song. And I've told you my sense memory

with this song, right maybe what is it? So at the time this song came that I was reading Harry Potter, I was binging binge reading Harry Potter and every time I hear this song, I think about in my mind's eye, like thinking about Ron Hermione and Harry As drawn in my head, like hanging around the like common room, like

sort of like when you wanted the most. They're not easy like that being like like imagine like the credits to Seventh Heaven, but with the characters up Ron Hermione and Harry As drawn in my head was she'll never know what they look like, but ultimately they look pretty similar to how they were cast. So that's the way it is. It's your mind telling you, like both of these things are so important right now, Yes, latch on. The only way we can process this at once is

to combine them together. They helped each other, I would say. Also, more recently, I was listening. I was in a soul cycle class taught by R. L. Dia, And you know he has that like as one of he did I think he did it just for me. He did since You've been gone as the second and last song, and then that's the way it is. Was the last song in cell cycle. And when I tell you, like anyone that's done cell cycle before knows, I can get a little emotional at the end because you're like the music

and you're like going for it like whatever. I cried riding that bike too. That's the way it is. By Selene Beyond. I was in tears. Such a truly in the ironic glass culture is just sense of the word and in the literal sense of the word cathartic song. Selene introduced me to Elton John speaking of how because she and Elton did some TV special together when I was a kid, and like they did some do I

forget what it was. Maybe I'm making this up, but then it like introduced me to Elton John and then like they did like a little like backstage feature at where you know, Selene was in Elton's dressing room looking at his huge collection of glasses to bring back a Day three reference. But I was like, oh my god, that my dream is to one day have as many glasses as Elton John does. Oh you never will, you never,

I never will. And I here's the thing. I think that you are going to be so successful for the rest of your life, and I think that you're going to have the opportunity to do many things and own many different things and collect different sort of things. I don't think you'll ever have as many glasses as John. However, if it breaks my heart, I want to prepare you for that is not that I wish it for you.

I just that's me as a friend. I have to tell you that before you start to hope and you know, start a collection, because you're never going to catch Elton. He's got all the glasses in the world, I know. Thank you for saying that. You'd ever see that clip of um Celindian in Vegas where she points her finger to this guy and a bolt of lightning comes out of it. Yes, we don't have that now. There's no one like that who will be who will do that for us? Next, let's listen. Who's not like that? Well,

hold on before you do. I mean like I did get some feeling of that during Mari Carrys Christmas Special when she was like, you know, being walked down a wintry forest by Billy Eichner. She's like, you're when Billy goes, you're a very hard woman to find. Then she goes, it's called elusive darling. Yes, I did love that. I love that. I'm like, I guess like it's someone who's like a goofy's a goofy singer tough. It's tough, too

tough to find. Now, I guess you know who tries to be goofy and it's more silly, and it's more rehearsed. Silly is Miss Katie. Katie is more. She's not goofy. She's not She's not like wacky in her bones. She's like, I'm doing a silly thing. Goofy and silly are different. Katie will always You'll always see the giant eyelid go down for the wink, you know, like that's exactly and the wink is part of it, you know what I mean, part of it. But with Silean, no wink, no wink.

It's just like, this is what's on my mind right now. I'm going to say, even if it doesn't make any sense, she is one of the most emotional women in show base and you have to respect that. You the Larry King post Katrina interview, I mean, like, you go back and watch that and try not to cry yourself. That is a beautiful she feels she's an EmPATH. Honey, deal with it. She's an EmPATH, honey, deal well with it. She's crossed, sobbing, sobbing for all these people, like in

a sort of a beautiful way. When she say, I would say, that's really culture number forty Selene and Honey Honey dealing with it, and there's gonna be a lot of people out there that can't deal with it. Now I'm gonna crazy, They're gonna go crazy, They're gonna go so insane. Here's what I would say about Selene. She also has the comedy chops. And that's why you want to see her in Vegas because she she definitely holds court and she probably feels very comfortable on stage to

just talk and say whatever the fuck. Because we've seen her and the Ashes music video from Deadpool too, you know what I mean. We've seen her sort of um in the Seline Dion is a crazy Chicken or whatever seven minute video or whatever that YouTube Seldon something. We love her. We've seen her do River d Mountain High, which is a comedy song. MH is actually a comedy song, one of the funniest songs of all time, one of the funniest songs of all time, especially when it's sung

by Selene Dion. Selene Dion is like sort of on the same level as Share to Me, like people who are just charming to watch on stage. You or they can stand in one spot and you can just listen to them talk in a way, in a way that is distinct from like a stand up comedian. She's a singer. What am I trying to say? I mean, like, there's just there's just she's a consummate performer. You don't but you don't. You don't rest your focus um at all

when you see Celine Dion on stage. It's not like with other singers where it's like music, music, music, I'm I'm I'm into it, I'm in and then once the music stops and she like has to like the singer has to shuffle around or something, you're like checked out for even a micro second. Whenever Selena is on stage, you are keyed in on her as an audience member the whole time. She is the event. She is what you came to see. I'm gonna list some young girls and you tell me what they need to do to

become Selene. Okay, Ava Max make herself known to me for one Okay, so all she has to do is make herself known, to just introduce herself to me, interests herself and then you'll be Selein level and we will treat you like that. If avon X reaches out to Bowen, we will treat as someone who has had the same cultural import impacted Selene Dion. Yes, Ava Max, please reach out. I don't know who you are, Okay, do you actually not know AVX? I know of her, I don't know.

I can't name, I don't know what she looks like. I don't know her. I don't know her single I will, I'm sure in like five hours, I'll like, Well, you know her thing is she has one hair on one side of her hair is really short and one side of her hair is really long. That's like her thing. Well now you do so, can I just ask for your cultured opinion if you heard that a singer sing was that one side of her hair was short and

one side of her hair was long. When that impressed you, I think it could be a nice kind of compliment to the singing, which of the personality. But it's like, but you saying one side of her hair is longer than the other, it doesn't. There's still so many mental gaps to fill. I'm like, that doesn't really communicate anything about her that person to me, Well, you should know that her number one sort of visual signifier is that she has one side of her hair that's longer than

the other. I mean, I guess, okay, now I just I have you have to look it up. You know she had that she had that big photos. These photos are making me laugh. Oh my god, like so ultimately, but but you see her one side of her hair is short and one side is really long, which to me is so like, okay, pop star, we need a thing. What do we do? And they just said here, I know, I'm a genius and they caught off one side of her hair. This is like like a joke from like

an Anna Faris character from Just Friends. You know what character of Just Friends? Who Oh my god, maybe we have to she she has to be on the list. She's not the Days of Culture but on Affaris and Just Friends. Oh she was amazing. Wait, but you do know what the Avax song is, right? Oh she's sweet a cycle in the middle. So I guess I mean at this point she's Selene level. She has been known

to me and she is Selene No. But now what she has to do was reach out and when now all she has to do is reach out, and now she does have to reach and the last culture assess will treat Ava max Um like she Selen Dion. Great. So that's the that's the only girl I wanted to ask you about that. I'll give you a girl, can give me a girl, and I'll tell you what she has to do to become Celendon. Okay, Maggie Rogers, Maggie Rogers, Okay.

So in order to become Seline Dion, she's got to stop with all this like sort of moving around the stage. You know, she's very nymphous around the stage. She needs to plant and stand and deliver. And Maggie, I want you to use full voice. I want you to get make a big sound and stand in one spot and deliver. And I want you to record a song from a movie,

what movie? This one with the blind Side? To record the theme song to the blind Side too, and then you will be don't move around while you sing around, win an oscar for it. And then and then and only then can you become Selen. And I do think it's you should do next, Maggie Rogers. Cousin, Maggie, cousin, Maggie, I think she can get Maggie I believe she can do anything. Very young, very talented, very very She's empathic. She is as much of an EmPATH as Selene as

I believe. M HM. I can tell musical talent, musical talent, young writer, young girl, performer, young producer, good writer, and Sissy's baby and Sissy's baby, Maggie. That's that. That thank you, that's actually really good. That's really good advice. I kept my avmax thing kind of ironic and shortened dum. I thought it was really good until you said that. And now now I don't know how I feel about it.

You sold yourself out. No, because compared to your answer, um, I wouldn't have thought that if it wasn't relative to what you just did. So I don't know who's at fault. I feel like you and I. One thing that you connected you and I is our love for Selene. I think early on that was established and it connects us to this day. We went, okay that fag is so wrapping along to Nicki Minaje at this party. If this

is true, what else is true? Very improv language. And so I found out you like Selene, I also like Selene, and then a friendship can start and um, I'm telling you by saying to someone else I like Selen Dion, you are saying I'm gay or a woman, because, as we've seen in this very thread, straight men don't know who Selene is, quote unquote unless you're Ana's dad. Well, you know, you know, Isy just did the wrist flick. You know, I'm can't These pictures of Avon Max are

still up on my browser. So funny. Well, so, Celen Dion, thank you for making Vegas a thing. And you did that on March twenty, two thousand three, and we just want to say that Ah'll giving us stid of cold. See you tomorrow