Look man, oh, I see you. Why oh and look over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness, ding dongs culture. You're feeling coquettish. I can tell just a little swing of the shoulders, you know you have love in your life. I mean, because let's be real, who's out here in Los Angeles like doing the damn thing on the rag you'd be surprised. Oh wait a minute, this is this will be dated absolutely by the time this comes out.
But apparently there was some Thank god, I'm off Twitter, but the things that I pick up on every now and then when I checked the lost culture Twitter, apparently there was a gay Twitter controversy today because people I'm not sure where people were planning through sub tweets, like a sex party situation. And I don't really know the specifics on this. I don't really. I'm sure I'll maybe I'll catch wind of of details. But what is going
on gay people? Let's just gay sist men specifically, let's just like chill out until we're until we get to her community. Please, please please, I totally agree we need to chill out with the sex party of it all. It's like we don't need to recreate that experience that badly that we're going to jap out of people's health.
I get if people want to have sex, sex, you know what I mean, Like, I think everyone has figured out how to have sex during the pandemic, but the risk sex parties, yes, that that means we need something else satisfied completely. That can wait, I think. And we are not here to yuck anyone else's yum. No, that's all it is. That's all it is, and and just and and and that's that's truly it. That's truly it. I am just like, oh my god, what is The gays are truly losing it? I could I can't believe.
I did not hear about that as I I can believe it, but I can't believe it. It's one of those things. It's you know, I think that once everything does return, things are going to be a zoo like Ospinoff in l A is going to be an absolute It's gonna be like the Refui because it's people will bleed, people will get hurt. You know, it's gonna be a site for hor eyes. So I think it will be fun in a way like sore brown eyes because of all the pecome out of flying around when you're eating.
But um, okay, so this is what I think. It'll be really fun though the first like big holiday after whenever everyone gets the vaccine. You know, what is something that's weird to think about is like my friend brought up the other day, what if you're in your friend group, like the last one to get it. I'm like, you miss a weekend the vaccine. But this is the thing.
I think it will just we'll we'll look up one moment and be like, oh wait, no one's wearing masks, Like it's it's acceptable to not wear a mask out in public anymore. Amazing what s go see promatica ball, you know, like, oh god, that'll be so fun. I feel like the amount of this is what I hope for in the world, is that the amount that's been taken away and has been devoid of ability to continue, Like now we'll come like like a lot of economists are predicting like a huge boom a period of growth,
like like that's all on the horizon. But I think specifically the stuff that was supposed to pop off and launch March April, May, June, July, like that's like spring
through summer. We have to honor that specific window of culture where things could not have, could not be, Like the way Dualipa is doing it now is maybe it's not even quite what I'm thinking, but it's like I think we should have, like we should revisit as a collective group of people at some point when it's safe again, like future nostalgia, and be like, oh my god, let's give this album the flight. And I know it's been like a year and a half at this point, but
we have to honor this. You know, I have literally not been able to be with you in space when stupid, stupid love is on and I go, look at me, girl. I think of you, literally, I think of you every time because of how much fun we would have a point that song in particular, what like I know what happened. We would go up to each other, tap on each
other and look at me. Honestly, I feel like the last time I was like truly like joyful was probably New York City Pride that summer when everyone was there, like when we were at Ties Party. I think it was the Devil's Playground at Bowery. Not Bowery, it was. It was wester Hall, wester Hall, oldest night club in the world. That's what I meant. Yeah, um, but yes, I I specifically think you're onto something with Dewett and chromatica, etcetera. And you know the first thing I'm doing is going
to see that Kelleg Farks in Vegas show. Oh my god, first thing, and you'll have your vaccine car laminated and say I got it, I got it. Oh, the chips are the chips are in me. Let me in, sir. I'm gonna wear my vaccine card like a choker, like I want every want to see it, like, right, you like a like a choke Yeah, like but literally choker. Sorry, I don't know why I questioned that as soon as you mentioned it. Um no, I know, choker reader. It's day eight of the twelve Days of Culture. Yes, we're
we're we're edging ever closer toward Christmas. How do you think it's coming so far? At twelve days of Culture? I think we've made the point every day. The only day that I feel like we really couldn't get on the same page was yesterday. I just feel like the last episode was because I feel like, and here's what I want to say to you. If I pitch a rule a day of culture and you don't agree. I want I would have never said that because I never disagreed with you, and I made that so clear yesterday.
You're right, you you did make that clear. I guess what's shaking me is the fact that you had not seen that movie and you took it out on me by saying, well, it's as weird as if what's weirder you're not seeing Jaws or me not seeing sound of music. You brought it to a new compare it complete space. You were bringing comparative literature to the conversation, and maybe we're out to make me look like a fool. I'm sorry, I'm bringing this combative energy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wow,
I'm catching myself. Do you forgive me? I do forgive you a forge of you immediately. And I just want to say I think that the reason why I got so edgy was because Jaws was such an important part of the culture for me that to know that my sister hadn't experienced that it just called me by surprise. Luckily though that is not the case. But all this is, this is the day that, as FDR said, we'll live inn in for me. She was talking about this day,
which is September. I'm so sorry. I we have to we have to say on the day Colture it was September nine. Diana from the vm AS. This was a moment of personal space invasion that was like the shot heard around the world, the boob joggle around the world. Will Kim, the little little juggle of her around the world say that? No, the little the world her around the world. I mean, if we had title of U for these episodes, I'd be title of up. Yeah, I mean,
I think clearly. So it's so funny that this is this is something that I noticed with this moment, with this day, I should say, Okay, I tell you, I say the words vm AS, Diana Ross, what's Diana Ross? A little Kim? And that tells the whole story? Is that correct? I say the words Britney spears Madonna. That tells the whole story? Correct? Yes, there's a third verse and missing in both of those scenarios, it was Christina or Donna. Do you know who the third the third
person was for Little Kim and um Diana Ross. I feel like because it's we've forgotten about her presence, at least I'm not at least at least I have until very recently. So it was Little Kim Diana Ross and I'm gonna guess. I don't know why I'm gonna guess. Wasn't Anna stage Mary J Blige? Mary see, I knew it was another singer? Oh my god, Mary J was there, And isn't it true that she had like a what do you mean to take? Like? She was like not did she say something? Or she did? She did? She?
So this is what happened. Mary J Blige and Little Kim were on stage together presenting best I think it was might have invest in new artists. No, no, no no, no, no, it was some some video. Um they brought out Diana to make this huge entrance and she walks out and was was sort of in her in her sort of comfort zone. Or she she she was inconsiderate of other people's personal space. Is enough to jiggle the boob. So she well, first she she did like, oh look at
this and did boo boo that. So I'm so sorry. I keep it, I I keep them delineating this story. But um, Mary J. Blige and Diana Ross hug sare a long hug. You can tell they love each other Mary so happy to see Diana and Diana boop boobs little Kim. And you look at Mary, her face falls. She is disgusted by this, just just very controversial to her to this, to to marry and she she disapproves.
And I don't know, I don't know who she's disapproving of, probably Diana because she was what she's been with Kim all along. I think, do you think she's mad at Diana Ross. I think that she is disappointed that she had to see the and I think that it's kind of like, oh god, I think it's one of those but because the fact of the matter is you let Diana Ross get away with everything because she is there. But but but this was a moment in time where
you know, you got a question. And I think that I saw Mary J watch What Happens Live, and what did she say? I think that recently, I think she said something like, yeah, it was a weird thing or something. And I believe didn't Mariah talk about it in her book, I think alluded to it was talking about it like this approving too. It's like that like she's like I haven't in a way that was like I've never had to do stuff like that. I think that was like
the subtext. Yeah, but it's funny because like at the time people did just We're just kind of like, oh yeah, I mean, that was a funny thing that happened. It's kind of like remember when at the v m as Jim Carrey was getting an award from Alicia Silverstone and he just literally kissed her on the mouth. People would do. People were doing this left and right at word shows back in the day, and Adrian Brody did it to halle Berry and it was just like, you can't just
do that. But at the time it was like the hilarious kiss that happened. But you can see on Hallie she doesn't like it, but Little Kim played along with it. Halle Berry played along with it. Did Alicia Silverston play along with it? Alicia was like I think Alicia was a little bit more visibly. This was this in the two thousand's. I'm actually gonna look this up. Really, this was like early on, like when Alicia Silverstone was like at the beginning of her career. Okay, so this is
what it is. She looks amazing, She's giving the awards the world, so he wins it and he goes up to her and oh, no, I gas. She she hated it. Oh my god, Okay, we're gonna do this all right. Um, she really hated it. That's rough to watch. Now it's said. Just just type in gym Alicia's Overstone and watch the YouTube video that says Alicia's over OK the Emmys, but I'm going to look up when it happened. This was kind of crazy. We're literally kind of discovering. Are you
watching it? Yeah? She is so uncomfortable. Oh my god, I'm sorry I did. I don't listen to anything you're saying while I was watching it. No, I was just saying, like, isn't it crazy? That's that's really rough. You don't love to see. And the thing is like, it's it's kind of like around this time this was happening a lot. Did I funk up by including this day? I mean, it's it's it's it's a huge day in culture. But we're using this as an opportunity to examine award show behavior,
which is always embarrassing, humiliating, awful. There's no way you actually genuinely look cool and an award show. I'm sorry, there just isn't there's just such an air of desper ration in the whole setting of it. Well, I think that what's happened is we actually in a way internalized this behavior to the point where we didn't think it was weird, en mean, and now I think we're like, here's what I think. I think we chose this as an iconic day in culture, and it was. It is
one of the days of culture. It just is. But along the way we realized, huh, maybe Diana Ross sucked up here because we're looking at other cases of it and it's like, yesh, and I don't think people this is weird. But I don't think people talk about that enough because that is weird. And also another thing is the Adrian Brodie halle Berry of it all weird and when no one no one really talked about the fact that he just did. I think it was always like
they kissed. It was like, I don't think she was gonna be I don't think she was in on that. I feel like I've heard a conversation around this in recent years where specifically, maybe only with the halle Berry and Juan Bertie thing, where it's like you can see on her face that she hated that. And do you remember the next year when he presented to Charlie's Thearren and he did that joke before where he gives up
the breath. I remember even as like, what like a thirteen fourteen year old rolling my fucking eyes at home, just being like, oh like you nightmare, nightmare. He's disinvited, He's never coming. He's like one of the few people who will never be invited to us. And I'll band he's not doing it. I don't mean to shoot on Adrian Bertie's career, but he's um, he's he's bad that. The thing is like that next year after that, I remember when Charlie's Theren did win the Oscar. Here's what sucked.
This woman has just won an Oscar and on her way up to the podium, she has to think about this bit that you did. Where where now she has to do, in the moment of her professional career and accepting an oscar, think about how to complete this bit you started. And they did kiss on the lips very quickly. She's like yeah, sure, she was joined was like why not, Like it's to to to to echo that into the next year is so dumb? Is is adell Dezim a similar offense. No, no, I mean, Adele Desim is just
an unpreparedness. And and for me, there's nothing negative about a dull Dezim because brought into the next Dezim was supposed to happen by God. God, I agree, and he exists. I believe that. Did you pray for art that day? I did. I did an art prayer that day. I forgot um that there's actually been three times I prayed for art Fergie's national anthem when Folklore was released Adult Dezim.
I prayed for art that day. The only wayon I bring up Adele Desim is one because it's the number one moment in culture history and to a you won't see it in the twelve Days of Culture unfortunately. Sorry no repeats from the last the last, But I only bring that up because Adele Desim was sort of re hashed the next year, and I was like, and I thought even that year as like poor Dena, men's all, I can't ever catch a break from this adults same stuff.
You know, yeah, I would say, like it would really depend on how cool you were about that situation, you know what I mean, Like, well, she must have to be because it was so ubiquitous another the other thing is like something you do to someone else and then continue as a bit for yourself. I don't know. I didn't love Adrian Brodie after that whole thing, but I will say this, this is so frustrated attracted to him
sexually and like in an intense way. No, honey, I don't know what to say about you can, um, you can. You can go find that person anywhere, you really can. I think yea, literally, I'm sorry, there's nothing that exceptional about him. I'm sorry, I'm I'm a what no, no, no. I used to you know, I kind of used to like his like hair, like he's got a little bit of like a crooked nose and like like a like I loved remember what he was like. He was legit
the romantic lead in King Kong, a disaster. This Adrian Brodie thing went beat. But then I think, like everyone in the industry wised up to the fact that he was probably a bad person or impossible to work with or inappropriate. So what is the SNL thing? He said? He introduced the musical guests like a Rastafarian costume. The musical guest was Sean Paul and then he put on a fake, a fake, just just a wig with dreadlocks
and set it in a patoire. So that's okay, See this is what I'm It's like he's he's a nightmare. He's a nightmare, and that kind of masculinity, that kind of sensibility lives on today in screaming, screaming volume. So it's it's it's it's too bad unfortunately. So I think the comparison is like Diana Ross comes along and jovels the boob of little Kim, and I think she's doing
it all in good fun. But it does say something about, like when a woman is dressed this way, you feel like you can do anything right, because she was famously wearing the pasty, So it's dare you know, But it's more of a we have to recognize that this is not the truth. Like she's in an like a like a costume or an outfit. That doesn't mean you can just even if you're a woman, come along and side there. I mean, the contemporary narrative around Diana Ross is she
is um the beloved icon of RuPaul. She is the queen of Motown stepmother. No, not stepmother. She is, is it Ashley Simpson, Yes, Ashley Simpson and spends the holidays with the Simpsons. Spends the holidays with Ashley Simpson and Jessica. And yeah, I don't know how involved the dad is. To get the word. When we say the dad, we famously mean um their gay dad, Joe Simpson. Joe, that's right, who now hangs out with lots of um Well we can only describe as twinks. A lot of darkness in
the world. Well, there's so much darkness in the world, bowing pandemic, gay twitter, orgy planning, like like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, beyond the panel to me, like you can't, I'm sorry. No no, no, no, no, no no no, Yeah, everybody, we're all going through it. Some of us are doing better than others, but it's it's still like I'm lonely as hell up here. I'm not I'm not going to these anyway. I don't know. I'm sorry. I mean, look, if you really wanted to figure out group sex, you
could definitely do that with two other people. And and the thing is, like, I mean, I don't know, there must be something about it that's better than I realized. If you want to act out your darkest bassist fantasies by yourself a game console and buy Cyberpunk seven so you can. What is this because you you totally um were wrapped up in it the other night. It's this open world video game that has been in the development
for like eight years. It's made by the same people who made this game called The Witcher three, which is which some people regard as like one of the best games ever made. I never couldn't really ever get into Witcher. I'm sorry, gamer readers. I'm not a Witcher, not a Witcher queen, but he's not the Witcher with Henry Um. Yes, so the show is based on the video game hit video game and it just came out and it's it takes place in this dystopian world of course, based on
based on The Witcher. Oh yes, well Witcher is Witcher was was books. Oh yes, that's what Hans is saying. But Cyberpunk was this tabletop RPG that was in the big in the eighties, Like it was like a Dungeons and Dragons type of thing in the eighties, but it took place in the future, so they developed a game out of it. It's a big open world game. You can customize your genitals. Um, there's no there's no assigned
like gender. It's very like cool, it's very like you just kind of do whatever you want and then you can go just have sex with anybody and that's wonderful. Customizable siving is sizing, yes, yes, so so Hans says show end game both based on the books to penis options with customizable sizing cutter uncut, or you can have a vagina, or you can have no genitals at all. You can have you can customize your pube shaving. I have my my character has heart shaped pubes. Beautiful, beautiful game,
beautiful game. Can I ask you questions sort of as the audience, as someone who doesn't under who doesn't understand the game, why do you need genitals as the character? Like why and when? Why are they getting so grandu and specific about the size, shape and texture of penises, Like are you fucking sucking in the game, But you're not using You're not like using your genitals in any sort of interactive way. It's just I think it's truly
just like a funny. There's a whole culture around these kinds of games, around the character builds around customizing your character to look such a specific way. And since this takes place in the futuristic world where like there is no gender, like like nothing matters. It's like, let's just take it to the full tilt and like make every part of this Like because you're customizing your limbs, you might be able to Hans, can you customize your genitals?
Can you have robotic genitals? Sorry? Can you have replaced your genitals with robotic genitals? With with cyber genitals? No?
He doesn't think so. Anyway, It's funny because like, if I could customize my own body in a video game, I probably would look like like the way they do in the video games anyway, which is tight, tight, rock hard abs, small waist, huge, smooth but big, huge tips that sit high and right and like like um sort of asymmetrical brunette haircut like beat face and like big biceps, like like you're a bat woman, I love you you would be? And then what and what? And then what
are your genitals? Do you have a deck? I don't create. If I have to create genitals for the game, I would like to. I love that. But see the people are taking issue with Cyberpunkford not being able to customize body type, like you can only be one silhouette everything else. It's like the height of your cheekbones you can like specify within like centimeters. But anyway, if they're gonna go the whole way, they should go the whole way. I know,
I kind of think it's a huge. It's a huge sort of I'm just surprised they're making the genitals such a thing. It's because it's a funny like press. It's a funny like guerrilla marketing scheme. I think where it's like all people are talking about on Twitter is the fact that you can customize their genitals. It's and it's a way of sort of tacitly promoting the game. Does that make sounds hell yeah, yeah, definitely yeah. Um anyway, it's kind of fun, it's really dark, it's really overwhelming.
Um Han says there's a great bug where the genitals poke out of the pants, but it's more likely to happen if you choose a do And let me tell you, I chose a moderately size dong because I was like, I this might as well reflect reality for me, and I don't have that bug where my where my dick pops out of my pants. I guess it's just like if I was creating a character that needed to be mobile.
Um from experience, I know that it's not good for them to have a huge penis because I know I think that I I know how difficult it is to navigate the world with my enormous, thick dick. It's not as tactical as Hans says, So I would never impose a video game character with this dong er. I have this absolute boat, this big fucking The only word you could use is long. And let me tell you something. It's like a crocodile's tail. If you get hit by it,
you're fucking dead. So you better wish that I am not in a room where they are playing do a lip of future nostalgia, especially the Levitating remix featuring Madonna and MS Elliott, because if they are playing that, I'm swinging my reptilian crocodilian penis and it has green spikes. Crocodiles are green. Yeah, um, I think or that's alligators. No, no, no,
I don't know. Are they all brown? Well? The only difference an alligators and crocodiles is alligators are in Florida and North America, and crocodiles are in other parts of the world. Parts of Now this has been a really interesting conversation because we were I was ready to celebrate Diana, but then we were like, wait minute. But then we were like, wait, she's sort of assaulting someone. The answer is yes, but I believe that she wouldn't do it again.
She wouldn't do it again. Little Kim, I mean, I don't really know. I don't really know how Little Kim
deals about it. I mean, in the moment, she's kind of playing along, laughing, being like it's such an honor to be with Diana Ross because then Diana who is because what I didn't tell you is and maybe you remember this, but Diana like sort of like pulls in Little Kim and Mary J. Blinde like close Georgy goes look at us the new Supremes, and Little Kim is like yes, And Mary J. Blige is stone based, stone cold,
just nothing, giving you nothing. If you're a little Kim, you kind of have to be like that at that moment, because what are you gonna do be the person who
screamed at Mary J. Are not not married? That you screwed the person that snapped at Diana Ross for doing that at the time, Guaranteed Little Kim would have gotten the worst edit and the worst read from the media had she not acting exactly the way she did, had she even like micro grimaced, no, then she would have been like the like rapper bitch who dared disrespect Diana
Ross who was just having fun. Who's to say if that happened today, that would be the same thing, Like it's still tough, like to be in a moment like that and no in this in that second that that's happening, that there's going to be a narrative about it. Like I'd be so in my head if I was like these people put in these public situations like after Kanyeia,
that's a tailor. Oh, I mean that might have been reset in terms of award show behavior though, to be honest, Yeah, now well now thank god they have to social distance. No one can get up to Taylor's mood. Man, I don't think she wont one this year. I know she did win win this year. She wont a moon man. Maybe she'll win him a lot forevermore is um I don't like the choker aesthetic by making ever more color I'm sorry, or maybe it's a maybe it's a hint
into the new aesthetic. We still at this time have not heard it. At this point, it's been out for a week. But y'all, you're listening to a world. You're listening to us dispatch from a world where every Moore has not been released. So we will know within hours if the colorful album art say something or it's just a breaking off an aesthetic, and therefore can never have bones respect for well, I look, can I just say something not to pat ourselves on the back to me?
You can say anything to me. I think we're giving a beautiful mosaic or no, just we're giving variety in each episode of twelve different kinds of discus texture. It is very Rathco what we're doing, very Rothcoe. We're giving different It literally is. Yes, we're giving different kinds of
discussions in different episodes. We're giving you chaos in one, we're giving you sober room ruminations on on assault, giving of feelings, blocks of feelings, and you better believe we're gonna give you more blocks right blocks and coming tomorrow. But for now, what we want to say to the day September nine, when Diana Ross jiggles little Kim Tip from below at the vietnames. What you want to say? Thank you giving me the business and every day? Thank you?
What is it? And I'm just going off with the key you're sitting in the beginning, which is so here we go, want to thank you? Are you sure you're tipping too far to dipping too for a day? Thank you? We're giving me the I don't think it's well, I don't know. I think we're actually we're both right, We're both right. Sorry, man, I'm you. Will you forgive me again for me? Will you forgive me again for being a bit? I'll forgive you again. I don't think you
really were a bit. I think you're trying to constructively help me. I was in the wrong key. Nothing worse for a gay person to be than in the wrong key in the middle of the ocean, except excepted that gay twitter orgy. Have fun, have fun fucking a blue check with three followers, Hey mama, have fun contracting the virus. Hey MoMA, Hey mama, congratulations on that virus. Good looking that vaccine you speak of By