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cultures calling man. I don't know how to say it other than to just sort of say it. Just come out and say what happened, which is three hours ago I was in a car accident I'm fine. My car is totaled. It was not my fault. I was driving down the road. I've approached the intersection and the person that was crossing the intersection in front of me had to completely run a stop sign. I had no time to stop. It was just like it's one of those
nightmare intersections that are somehow existing and they're rampant. It's the beginning of Aaron Bracovitch. That asshole smashed in my fucking neck. I'm so sorry, like a bad out of hell in that, in that calm demeanor. This is why she won the oscar, Like a bad out of hell. Wait, we're not talking about Julia. We're talking about you. The Julia of today was certainly me because of the way what just happened happened. Luckily, I'm fine. All I have
is my air bags both blasted off. And let me tell you saw the photo you sent me, the photo airbag culture. No one talks about, No one talks about the force. I feel like we've erased air bags from the conversation in the last I don't know, fifteen years. It's like I forgot the airbags existed until today. When you show me the pictures. I was like, oh, yeah,
those those those giant things are in the car. Oh and when they What they don't tell you is after the airbag explodes in your face and on your legs, because that's where I got my little contusion and was cut open the aag. What they don't tell you was then after it goes, the air bag is like smoke is coming from it, and it smells like something that you shouldn't be smelling in a car. That smells like hospital. It smells like hospital. Unfortunately, the guy who caused the
accident was hot. No we do. He looked like John Legend. He looked exactly like John Legend. He almost killed you. I don't care how he looks, but can you imagine if it had been John Legend? I would have been like, fuck you, John Legend. You hurt my friend. I'm sort of speaking to you now from the perspective of someone who's just been through that. I'm so glad you're okay. I'm so glad. I'm so sorry about your car. The car is unfortunately busted. I may post a picture about
it tomorrow. I just I want to. I didn't want to freak my mother out. The most thing about it before I told her, which would be you are that. You are the Julia Roberts of February one, You are the Julia Roberts of today. I guess I'll do my best too from this point going forward to continue to honor that legacy and like save a bunch of people in a small town from hexavalent chromium. That has to be my next move, I think, is that's Matt Rodgers next move. But Matt, I'm so glad you're here. Are you?
Are you good? Are you okay? Well? What do you need from me? What I need from you is just exactly what you're doing right now, because you are a real sister, and I want to say you are here for me, and you you were very concerned, and you texted and you were you were very concerned. My my whereabouts shout out to grant a title. Then my other real sister who came and picking it up was there
in minutes. And I'll tell you what was keeping me going throughout the ordeal that this episode was happening today, and literally right before I died, I did see our guests before death. Yeah, and she was like teasing me. She was like an angel of death. That was like to say that if you don't really mean it. I first of all, it's not about meaning it. It's about what I experienced. Let him, let him say it only if it really happened. It happened, and it's my experience.
And you you don't exist yet because we haven't introduced you. Okay. The only way you exist right now is in my dream that I say, just saying, I hope you're not improvising. I hope it really happen. To stop it now. I don't improv I don't do improvise, doesn't improv He doesn't improvise, doesn't improved. I only say my experience. I'm like Lena Dunham. Yes, this is my life. That's what Lena says. Whatever she does a project, she says, this is my life. It's
rule of culture. Number twenty two says this is my life in all her projects and all her projects. Okay, my lips theresiped so as division. Yes, I'm saying I saw our guest sort of beckoning me or teasing me to come into heaven, and I was like, no, I'm not gonna let her trick me there. She's very tricky. The guest she if she can talk you into doing anything and really convince you that she's anyone, It's true.
I was thinking about the range today. I was like, she's played everyone from from Demilovado to to the to the met the girl down the street to the girl down down the street, and you know what, every time, I just find it very tricky and untrustworthy. It's like, if she can trust if she's Meg, why are we seeing all these other people and why does she know what it's like to be them so much and so good? Yeah, you're right. The questions remain, No questions remain. Okay, front runner,
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a hiatus and during a break. Yes, that's what balmorl is for. That's what Balmorle is for. She's the queen of the Bicons. Everyone welcome and the America Worker and dropped out, everyone welcome into your ears mag You guys, I don't normally I don't normally come in before I'm announced, but I was listening to just to tell episode and you know what she said, a bad example of stupid bitch, And you guys were like, yeah, we want to experiment. I was like, Okay, well I guess I'll come in.
Oh my god, you're just pushing us forward. Thank you. I'm so sorry you got in a car crash today. I really wouldn't have wore this like crazy hairstyle if I knew. I just feel like I would have worn something different. What would you have worn? Like what would have been different? That kind of like, oh god, honey, what do you think that's could sort of be like a comforting like discinal image for me right now, like you would like a glorious sun at or hair is
like back or something. I'm like ready to part and then well you know what, and I'm gonna I know I'm talking too much because I'm so excited, but it's reminded me of there's this guy that I'm kind of sexting and the other day he was like, Hey, um,
I just got in a car crash. To tell me about the day, Babe was like like like, didn't really want to talk about it, but was like, oh, I got a car crash, L O L. How I can't wait to be seeing like not that we're seeing each other obviously quarantine, but it was really making me worry that they would present that information like that because honestly, it's like you don't know people you can't always get tone across with. So he could be like I was just in a car crash and be in a hospital.
Just be like I was in a car crash and be at home sort of making dinner. Like you don't know what is physical whereabout? All you know is he said L O L. But like he couldn't possibly be laughing about it, even if it was small. Even if it was small, what is that called? Should we name this thing where we're let's just say, guys, anyone, anyone's like this horrible thing happened to me, tell me what's
going on with you? It's like it's not it's like deflection meets like burying the lead, or it's not it's not those things. But if people do this all the time, and I'm like, we have to like name this for what it is and actually be like wait wait wait, no, no no, no no, no, we have to talk about the thing that happened to you because they want to write like they don't want to us to really be like
l O L that's crazy. I had like such a weird day, Like they don't really want us to ignore that, right, No, you know what it is. It's them feeling like they have to do their due diligence of letting you know what happened, but they don't want to explore and that is something that's sorry but seek treatment. Yeah, yeah, really is back? Should we start ignoring? Like if someone says that, should we ignore what they said at first? Like you
know what, if you want to move on? Doesn't they're ask They're like it's like a test almost, you know of course, like my god, are you okay? Yeah? Okay? He was okay, totally totally as they say, as they say all over, as they say it everywhere in the world, he was totally okay. What Christel, Can you talk about him? You know, it's somebody that I haven't met since quarantine. You know, we're all quarantined, of course because little pandemic. Yes, And you know, so if you're listening to this years
from now, it is the pandemic. If this is sort of it needs to be a time capsule for you. We're totally within the clutches of the pandemics. Though. Yes, if you haven't heard of the coronavirus, it's sort of the sort of like the flip why worse. Yeah, But he's just this. So I've always I always have like, oh I have to date somebody in the entertainment. I have to date someone a comedian. They're the only people that get me. So this is the first person I've
talked to that's a firefighter and not in comedy. And I think it's so hot and he's really he's a firefighter. I think that might be the hottest. And weake face his face time, and he's like so hot it can barely speak. But then it's like, I know, I used to like that, I don't know, kind of weird and they're hot to me, you know what I mean. I used to like you're hot to me because you're lucky
snake on freak. Yeah, but he's like actually hot, He's like, he's like someone, Samantha, what on sex and the yes, yes, exactly, yes, yes. She'd be like, come on, honey, come on me. He speaks like he's a hot firefighter he speaks. I was like, sure, yeah, no, that would be me. But that would be so I mean, I guess takes the datum firefighter who talked Samantha. Absolutely, we're gonna go put out the fire and then put
out myself all over town. The only replacement I know we talked about this, that there's no replacement for Samantha. I think it's the only option. Is mag is mad. You don't even explain Amantha exactly like yeah, opening line. I think that's the only thing that makes sense. That's the only thing that makes sense everyone. I think to everyone, no one will question it. Because my cousin dead from whatever. Sure, yeah,
you're there. You're there to pick up her dead body, and you just never that's the that's the reason why you're there, and you just don't leave to pick up dragging her body. Someone's gonna go pick her uf you the closest family member. They make them pick that. Yes, and you were the closest cousin by bluff And I explained that, and you explained that the series takes place over the course of two years, and the entire two years you are dragging the body around. Yeah, that's like that.
That's like the diagetic of the show is like it starts where she starts dragging the body, and it's only when she has dragged the body all the way home and they in the show Samantha really find her resting place. That's that's how they involved love that. But I'm also always looking for sex to define the show. Where can I get late and lay this body? You know? And the guys are always like, what's with that? And You're like,
don't worry about it, shush up. I have a blonde wig, but it's on top of my head, no hair tucked in it. It's becoming clearer and clearer that this is the only thing that makes sense. You guys saying that makes me think maybe I have a chance. But I'm like, I know that they don't. I'm not Matt Rogers over here being not meaning it. I mean it. I mean it all the way, this is the campaign. This is what you don't understand. Buzz does start here like Buzz starts.
We start all the time. Like when we were in the final round. We were in the final round, Disney was we're about to time of contract with Disney to be Flotsam and jets serious, we were about the time of contract and basically Disney at the last second decide they didn't want to do the characters at all. I believe for real. I know Bone's taken no, but I'm like, yeah, that sounds like it was real. I'm shaking my head
because I'm remembering the chemistry we did. Yea his head like it couldn't have been better than the loved us. Hally was obsessed with us. Everyone was so obsessed. They were all running over even assistance being like, we are obsessed with you. Everyone was telling us we are so obsessed with you. Everyone is no one is talking about anything else because of the obsession. That is was it's a big problem. And we're like, okay, okay, give us
the contract. And then in the costumes already Bowen knows this. Um Bowen basically called ahead and really graphic because the more graphics, so he designed the costumes, and what was your take on Flotsam and Jetsam. You had a very strong aesthetic take. My take on Flotsam and Jetson was like very like Iris van Herpin, like a lot of like flowy lines. But then but then, but then you can see clear anus. There's a clear ans on both
of them. Because remember the movie, that's when they were like where's the so for this movie they were like, We're really we're not going to have anyone asking the question where's the butt hole. It's gonna be do your own costumes for it. These are That's how all movies are. I have really for a real thought about being like, should I just ask my manager if you can get me an audition for any part in Sex and the City,
maybe get me in them. I want to be in the writer's room and just like, I don't know, you need to be the star. You're in it in a huge way. I really feel like I need audition for something a barista, a bartender. You're Samantha Jones, but I don't know what add the sex to. I want to be the new sex pop character. Oh god, she's bringing even more sex than ever before. Was bisexual on the show besides that one, right, it's but it's like it's
it's like you, as the bisexual of the show. The audience at home will just be hooked because they don't know who's going to get next. You know, it could be anyone. I really do think it's a good idea. I know we're joking, but I'm like, I'm not joking. I didn't make this show. I think people could would watch it. Wait, Meg, we're not fucking joking, and Bone and I are upset. I mean, I don't think they're gonna let me drag your dead body around. But I
do think that to get edited, that get rewritten. Can I say something earlier? Matt was like illustrating the scenario where like, you know, the Disney exects ran out of their rooms and we're like, we're obsessed to be We're obsessed to you. That is like that is like my that's like everyone's dream right to be, like to walk into a meeting like that and have them run out to you and be like, we feel so obsessed with I don't think that's ever going to happen in my life,
but I feel like Meg. I feel like Meg. Once general start happening once meetings and general season begins again after when we can finally start, because it's the it's the thing we missed the most. But Meg is gonna be about MEXICOA walked into the Mexica walk into these meetings, and they're gonna run out before she even gets to the reception, and they say, we're obsessed with you. Can I tell you the truth? I got to be honest with you. Generals have happened, and let me tell you this.
They'll be I'm gonna be honest with you because we should be confident, confident, confident. Honestly, they're extremely excited when it starts, and then then the meeting goes on and I go, yes, so I live in l A And I used to live in New York. Same thing every time in every meeting, and I think they're expecting a wacky girl. And I'm smiling and laughing, but I'm not going in there like, hello, God, you know what I mean. You're not in there just saying more answers. Yeah, you're
just being a human being. So I don't think they don't like me. But it's like they're so excited in the beginning, you know, what I mean, why wasn't she spouting more coherence and spouting all over the place. But it's terrible to me that, like they like that would be the normal thing to them for for any one of us to go in there and be like a goofball. And it's like, that's not that's not how we that's not how anyone talks to each other. Yeah, but you know what I love. You know what I love about
those meetings. They they really, they really are just girl talk talk. Yeah, let's get down to it, a girl it's a girl talk. Okay, So if you could excel at girl talk, you're going to be scoring in generals. Watch I go Sex in the City. I'm still watching Sex in the City. I'm not kidding you. I like, I'm know, I know it doesn't hold up. I know it's bad, but it's so comforting. But the thing is, it's most of it is just like a great old show like that are like like products of the nineties.
But the fact of the matter is, like that show, people still talk about the content, like people still talk about the characters. It is like lasting, and I'm not surprised people want to keep doing it. But I without Samantha, but without Samantha. Truly we were talking about this when we're talking about this last week, Matt, you and I, Oh, we're gonna be talking about it for decades, And we talked about it last week, We're talking about it this week.
Does this is going to be the cultural conversation going forward? Never started talking about the show either, No, no, no, But I mean we we are all I mean, we're all obsessed with the show. I mean like it was like the whole thing that like got me to do like shows. This sounds so obnoxious, but it was the thing that got me to do shows and like brookle In in in New York and like Little Field where it was like me and me and me and Sam Taggart, like doing a sex in the in the City show.
I'm like, which sounds so stupid, but it's like it's so it's like everyone knows the language around sex in the City that it doesn't hold up anymore. I don't know, there's something special about it. Even even the second movie, which was off I've seen five thousand times and I love Yeah. When when when Kristin Davis goes, I think you're playing fire. I think you're playing fire think, can
we just talk about what a wacko Charlotte is? Sure, and they're they're cruel, they hate her, they shipped on her, and she's like, these are my best friends. And she's like when she screams, no, no, I cry every time, I'm trying every time. I'm crying. Right now, she's crying. Mega's crying so hard. I've never seen anything like this. It's like she's watching the movie Big Fish. She's crying
so hard. Um. But what's crazy about how the passion with which she screams that is the fact that the entire series long, they're so sh I know, there's so mean to her. I was literally just the other day talking about this. There's a scene where Carrie starts dating the old the old artists, right, the Russian guy, and they're in this perfume store and Charlotte's trying so hard to like do jokes and they literally could not care less.
They're actually like she works there, and she's like, are you going to get a perfume And she's like, no, I'm not. She's like, I don't want to date him, and then like I haven't. Did you not eat her? She doesn't want to say, and she's Charlotte even Miranda yet who was an evil person? Oh no, don't shoot on Miranda. But here and do I think you probably identify as the Miranda of course? Yeah? Absolutely. I think most most I was gonna say most normal people. I'm
not normal. I feel like Miranda, out of the four of them, is the is Like I think she is like the surrogate for the audience, where it's like she's the only way. Yeah, you know, I think that that is very much carry because I think that Miranda represent but she's not. But she's actually not. Well. I think she has definitely like personality traits that set her further away from what our usual surrogate is. Like, she's definitely more self involved. She's definitely like makes choices that we
don't answer, like what yes, Carrie, um. But I think Miranda is more heightened in the fact that, like she is so rational and fact driven and by the book and strict with herself and about rules that she is like I always think, like this isn't perfect, but carries it super Ego and ego are represented in those three characters, like they're different parts of her that she can choose to instinctually be they're different girls that she could be, and the show is about her navigating all those types
of women that that that's what I think. So I think that Miranda does irrational things like how mean she is to Steve her like you know what I mean. Like, so, I don't think Miranda is a normal character for us to identify with unless you are deeply in Miranda. Isn't there a thing where it's like the four of them each represent like one like of the and this is
a word that like the seasons. But she's like that they're like one of like the like the like the four crones and storytelling or something or or like not thrones or something. But it's like there's like a term for it, but that makes sense. Yeah, but each of them like but like yes, carries the center and then like Miranda's about career, Charlotte's about family, family, and then Santa Samantha's. This is all well trod, everyone knows this, um, but I guess we have to ask meg who who
who do you identify? As we must A lot of my girlfriends will say like, oh, we're all Miranda's right, But I'm like, I don't know. I think there's I think I'm I used to when I was younger. I mean, I watched this show when I was like a kid, and I think I thought I was like Charlotte. I'm like, well, I want to be a mom and stuff, and obviously I'm not. I'm so far from Charlotte. Even though I do want kids, I go into it, I start crying, But I do want kids. Yesterday we're going to get
I know I will have kids. Good. You know, I do think I want Here's this is just a side note. I really want kids one day, but I don't know if I want to be pregnant. That's really scary to me.
That's fine, definitely want to adopt. Well. As you get older, I feel like the more and more common it becomes because women are being honest about how pregnancy is, like it's scary, Like, yeah, when I hear about how difficult some pregnancies are, I'm like, that must be like a harrowing thing to be a woman who is pregnant, has had babies or wants to have a baby. To know that, like you're going to have to like really sacrifice physically and a lot of your comfort for a long time
and ultimately, like, you know, it's a lot. I understand why there's a depression after words, A lot of the time because it's so crazy. And I feel like when we were young, it was just like she's pregnant, like she might have to eat the pickler too, like, and now my babies are here and they're healthy too, like that's not Yes, I passed out when my sister gave birth, passed out real, got a concussion. I'm not kidding you. Literally couldn't stay awake the next day, and nobody believed
me that. Like my mom was like, I caught your head before it fell. I was like, there's no way you did. I'm like, really passed out from because I was holding one of her legs up. Oh my god. She wanted me in the room, so I was like, okay, I mean, it's my first nephew. You know, I don't we ya, Yeah, I'm excited. I've never seen anyone give birth. This is gross. Like I was driving from Chicago to
Ohio to watch her give birth. I didn't really eat that much that day, So there's that that's already shaky leg up, blood sugar low. I'm literally stuttering at the thought of this again. It was so traumatizing. But then, of course my favorite person is born. But yeah, I'm shaky. You haven't really eaten holding her leg up, the nurses holding her other leg, and I feel dizzy, and I look at my mom, who's all the way across the room, and I say, I think I'm about to pass out,
and she goes, oh, my sister needs you. I'm like, yes, you did. The second she said that, my body, it's incredible, bodies will work like that. Well, my body knew, oh, she's not gonna help me. Passed out onto the floor right when she said that, because you're honestly you need to rest now. Literally, Yeah, oh my god. That is crazy. And so were you physically out for when the moment of birth hues. It's so long when people give birth.
Don't realize you don't realize. No, it's hours of holding her leg up and I was just sitting in a rocking chair the rest of the night. Started taking in the sights from from so if I had seen that, I feel like that would that would make me anxious? About the smells? Did I get to that? That's that's the gross part is the smell of the blood, like the blood. It's like, this is the most dangerous thing of someone could do. It is so wild. You are leaking fluid out of it, like goshing blood. Oh my god.
And I remember when my mom she she explained to me that sometimes women poop when they give birth, and like a little I don't feel like a little fact feel like you that's disgusting. Why are they that's sucking gross? They should not poop. They should not do it. Just doesn't this poop. And then you actually see it and it's like fucking the poop. At the least they aren't worries so truly, like what can't smell poop? It is blood.
It is like a blood. You are metally blood smell, lily blood smell, and you're saying that it's it overpowers the poop smell. I don't even know if there was any poop involved. Forget she was and she was isolated
to just one experience. Yeah, I think did that though, But I again, like I bet you wouldn't even know, you wouldn't, I mean, but anyway, Okay, so then you're watching this happen, and then the baby is born and the actual act of the baby coming out of the vagina is the craziest thing ever, because I have seen this happen, like in health class, that baby shoots out sometimes yeah, yeah, I can't really yep. And some videos you can look up videos of births, they go, how
did they catch them? How did they there? The woman is there, she's in the pose, she's in the crouch pose at the very foot of the as a midwife, not always a woman. Wow, thank you and thank you literally literally sister life that you only accountable hashtag after after. So I we're talking about this. I don't want to have kids either. I mean I wasn't like in that space to begin with, but now I'm like, yeah, I don't think I would want I would want to put
someone else through that either. I wouldn't want to hire someone. I don't think if I was Bow and Yang I would I would just want to notice my fabulous life. No, seriously, because I think that your life is going to be so fabulous that I think that you should just be living that fabulous life. And I don't think you should have a kid to have to give any attention to our care too, because I think you need to live your guiche for the rest of your day. It changes.
I've actually like, I've never heard of kids before. It changes every changes everything, just yourself. You live for someone else at that point. How many women have had to men in the eyes and say, when you give birth, you start living for someone else. That's what that's the sacrifice do you make? Really know, some women on Long Island have said that to me. Stop living for yourself. Oh god, this is dark. I nanny for a long time, for years, full time nanny, and I got so close
to them. But I'm like, I would like to have kids, like when I can afford a really nice nanny who can help, because it's so much. It really not to raise them fully, but like you need help in God, I just it's so much. If I'm gonna be married to a firefighter, he's going to be gone during the day at night some nights, oh nights, totally, totally. Oh yeah, he works nights too, a partners, they do both. He's working all the time. And or it's either that or
what I'm gonna marry someone really like famous actor. He's gonna be on shoots when you're a shot, right believes I'm not. I love this so much. I love working so much. I'm not going to be a stay at home mom, which is what I thought I would when I was little. I don't know, I was like actress or stay at home mom, you know, right, Well that's the whole that's another whole part of it they don't tell you about. It's just how hard it is to be a mother or a parent at all. Oh my god,
I could cry. I see it's all my parents. I've talked to man about this. My parents have skipped all the way to the end where they're like, you should find a partner so you can raise a child. But they they've never asked me about anyone I've dated. And I like yelled at them one time and over the summer, I was like, it really fucking sucks, and it's hurtful that you like are like weirdly like ashamed of like butt secks for me. But you're like, but when are
you going to have a kid. It's like it's still about like reproduction in a way, and it's like, well, sorry, like my what I do doesn't do that. I don't know, what I do doesn't do doesn't do that. My mom's kind of like she knows that I'm by and she'll say, now, like I know she knows that I'm gonna like eventually be with someone, but I just love being single and have been for so long that now she knows I love it so much that she's like, don't you want
to just get a kid yourself? Like she's not, it doesn't even care about the partner, but she's like, why don't you like adopt right now? Wouldn't how wild of a move. My guests would be that it's so much more about grandchildren that we realized it's about, Like because I wanted to ask you Bowen, like when when they say, like time for you to get a partner and like to have a kid settled down? Are they saying partner are like with the assumption that that this could be
male or female? Or are they saying are they saying like a girlfriend? There's at this point they have they're they're like, he's going to be with a guy, which is a step forward. But then but then it is like it only is complete, it's and then it's that classic thing. This is like not unique to me, but it's like that classic thing, like it's not a it's not a real unit until there's a kid involved. And I'm like, I don't. I'm like, I don't think. I
don't think I want that. Um. But then my mom was like, well, you should maybe think about like hushed tones, being like you should maybe think about storing your sperm. Just so it's like I don't, like, mom, like, we don't have to get to that level yet. It's a real concern for that generation sometimes, like I haven't heard that from my parents yet, but I think in a in a world where I was ready for that, it
would it would probably be like a good thing. Yeah, Meg, have you noticed that your mom has had this conversation with you since your nephew was born or has it been that way the whole time? I think it's chilled out a little bit. But she'll still be like, why didn't she just move? Sometimes she'll be like why don't she moving with me? And we'll have a kid, like obviously not as a couple, that's my mom, but being like I think for her, she really doesn't kid row.
I don't get it, Like, yeah, I think with kids, someone else's kids. Like it's weird because I love kids and always thought I would have like four or five, But now that I'm older, I'm like I would be really happy as an older woman with like two kids, but also like if it doesn't happen, I still feel like I've I don't know, I have enough love. I don't know, like I feel like I'm still fine. I've went after I'm going after everything I want. You know, well,
you know what that makes you? And Miranda, I was gonna say, we didn't talk about it. I think I'm Miranda with a little bit of um, with like some Samantha too. Oh yeah, I was gonna pag you first, Samantha. I was gonna pack you first, Samantha. I think there's a well, you know what, to be honest, like Samantha does go after what she wants, right, and she doesn't let anyone be in the way. So maybe I'm Samantha with a little bit of Miranda. And of course a
late night after a breakup, I'm a carry. Everyone has carry moments where they do something, you know. You know what I'm realizing right now, Like we said that Miranda was the career one, Samantha is also a career Yeah that's why I'm thinking she goes out. Yeah she sucks. So the thing the difference of if you're deciding if you're a Miranda. There's something about like a taking seriously of life. Like Samantha is just a more she's more like I don't know what it's about. A sign. It's
about assigning value to one thing over the other. Miranda signs value to her work. She's not she's less like she's like her like like she's the one who gets her her butt eaten right, and she's like, I don't like that, So she's like, so she she sucks, but she's like I have a lot of like weird hang ups around fucking, where Samantha has no hang ups around fucking and doesn't really give a shit about her She doesn't not that she doesn't give a shit about her dub,
but she's secure. She's not like living day to day motivated by her career. That's where my Miranda comes in around like constantly every day, you know what I mean. But there's part of me, not the annoyance. This isn't the annoying part of Charlotte. But like I am a romantic, like even with like cookouts or people, I really romanticize things I really like, even though I haven't. I've been
single for so long. I am like a romantic at heart, not realistic when you know, I I just came out of like a long distance like sort of thing where we never met but during quarantine talk for months, and I was so about it. But like they were realistic and they were like, you know, even though I think they could have went about it differently, and I act like they're listening, but like they were realistic, being like
we don't live by each other. It's a pandemic, like let's try to talk to people that live by this. But I'm like, I'm so into you, like I could do this whatever. But part of me is you know what I mean, Like it's romantic of me to think that way. Yeah, what what is what is getting in the way of you and firefighter meeting up? Like what's what's happening there? So well, this is really new with him. But he just seems a little bit different than the
people I've talked to, which is nice. He's kind of like, I'm not going to waste your time like into like sort of more. Um, I don't know, it just seems like he knows what he wants. I think the thing of meeting up is just being a pandemic and like what do you what is everyone doing or people getting tested or are they meeting once? Like I just I've only online dated during quarantine, like I really haven't, So it's kind of scary to me. He is in l A and he doesn't want to get tested in me um,
But yeah, I'm a little nervous. I want to, But I'm also like really really like COVID safe of course, of course in a good way, A good freak, no good freak. I think that for me what I do when I'm going to see other people as I just make sure that I haven't like left that pod for two weeks and have literally nothing can happen at that point. So if I feel like if he was into it, you could just be like quarantine the timer on the fuck two weeks starting from now. We've talked about that.
We've talked about being like I'll test like whatever you need me to do to be comfortable. The thing is, then you have to do it. You have to put it on the books, because then you know it's it's you're being nervous for other reasons that you actually don't want to do. Kind of talked about like in another week or so perfect, but only because I've like fully quarantine.
And the other thing was I told him, like, what's weird about dating right now is that I've had to say, like, I know, I'm not asking you to be exclusive, but if you're hooking up with people like I don't, I'm so safe about it that I don't. And he's like, no, I'm not meeting anybody else, and like I would and I'm eating anybody. But this was recording. We weren't just hanging out. But that's how the truth, and he is saying,
my body only belongs to one one. I just think if you are casual dating right now, you have to really plan it out, Like you can't just you absolutely one person. You can't be hooking up with different people. You can talk to whoever you want, but to meet up you can't right now. You can't. You can't, you can't. Yeah, Okay, we're about to say something about Miranda that you're like Miranda in the in the ambition sense in terms of
career stuff. I think that I think that's it. It's like I think I have the attitude of like do what you really want to know? Rule Samantha Grandon The work and then Charlotte Romance, the like a little bit of the romantic sort of do anything, you know, like it'll work out. It just will. It's the delusion which has gotten me this foreign comedy. You know what I mean. You have to you have to believe it. Yeah, I was. I was just gonna remark on how I think, and
I think you agree with me. And it's not that I have the full of the land, especially anymore, but I'm just like I think Megan is like the hardest working person just period right now. I mean, well, the thing is, the thing is you are No you can say it, bitch, because you still doing it. Yeah, but it's one thing to have consistent output, and it's such completely other thing for it to be consistent output. That is always so funny, always, pets, always you really are
just like you are. You are good for everyone's health to you last and Jesus said you need to Jesus said you need to laugh. That is one of the most famous religious songs. Jesus sad you need you know, someone commented on a video today, So I really need that because someone commented on a video and goes and this didn't hurt because it was so crazy. But the comment goes, this video is not as good as your old stuff. She goes, you need to go back and
watch your old stuff and watch your timing. She she was suggesting that you go off and watch tapes of yourself. Yes, because she's like this, this requires some editing. It was basically one of the things where it was a video. You know, you have Okay, you have the videos where you cut it a bunch and there's all. Then you have the longer video where it's one take, which that's supposed to be like, it's a totally different feeling. That's the point to style the girl getting a toast of
the birthday. Yes you can, then you can't. You can't cut around that. And I thought it was I gifoed multiple times throughout the fucking thing what she's talking about. It was phenomenal and she's obviously very ill. I want to ask you, though, what do you say to your critics? Oh? What what do you say to them? What I say is, you know what, it's okay, I'm not everyone's cup of tea, and I would rather be like, have people really myself means something to a smaller group than everyone. Yeah, yeah,
And so that's that's what you would tell them. But when what do you say to your critics? I say, to my credit, I had the thought today where it was like, because I'm getting it from these like I'm just gonna say it like pro CCP, like people who are like like the equivalent of like teps in like black Twitter, but they're Asians and they're like they're they're just truly warmed in the rain and they say shipped to me like they're they're classic thing to me, I'm sorry,
I'm getting a little real here. Is like like oh, Bowen's like long Duck dong one like he's like he's like he's like doing like all these characters. And I'm just like and I literally said out loud today because like I saw one of these and I was just like, you ugly motherfuckers never talk to me ever, Never talk about me, You never think about me, live your pathetic lives. That makes me so mad. It's it's just like I
get a little angry and hateful. But at the end, and then I used to feel guilty about the anger. But then like lately, therapy has been all about like accessing it or whatever. We don't need to talk about the reason. The reason why I'm I completely understand is because they're gaslighting you because you're you don't yet that's not even close to the reality of the situation. They're
just jealous literally comes from jealousy. While jealousy, I don't even think it's jealousy, but I think it's them like believing something about the way the world works. Yeah. Short answer is, um, yeah, I just it's terrible, Matt. Matt, what do you say to your critics? I always say the same thing to them, which is I just because I just I went. I always give kisses to my critics. Yeah, I always just building a kiss. And I actually did have a lot of haters this week because I unfortunately
did stir the pot with a tweet. I tweeted, if you think wand Division is boring, but watched The Irishman to the end, I don't think so, honey. And I forgot I forgot Marvel and Scorsese had that whole thing that Scorsese says that all Hollywood is Marvel. Now, well, no, he says that Marvel movies are not art like He's like films, they're like they're like theme park entertainment. Like that's what he says that, and so he picked a fight with the Marvel community, and the Marvel community was like,
fuck this guy. And it just was very that I didn't mean it in an anti scores as the way. What I meant was like people will watch any people will literally watch fifteen Oscar movies in a row about like we're lesbian cave diggers who fall in love and it's the eighteen hundreds and we're both a little sick.
It's very cold to it's very cold, or like this is a movie about a whale researcher who finds out he's losing his mind and he needs to still research the whales, and these movies will be nineteen hours long and people will be like did you see the Manchurian Bitch or whatever, and like people will be like yes, and did you see mank on Netflix? Of course, and they'll absorb all these screw movies saying people will be like I turned one division off of a second episode.
I thought it was boring. I was like, are you kidding me? Like this, like like what do you mean? And so I tweeted that just using the irishman as a substitute for an ostro film. Twitter people came after you, and so all the Cinophiles, of course, had a great sense of humor about this one, and we're like wow.
They kept repeating this, which makes me feel like they were like, wow, Scorsese lives in Marvel's fans heads, rent free, Scorsese living in your head, rent free, well, Marty living up absolutely rent free, and this guy's head, this goof.
I was like, what is with you guys? And I did start in with one of them, and it was just the most frustrated exchange and I ended up just deleting the tweet, even though it was getting anxious, it was becoming a thing of like it was becoming a little bit of a thing of like fuck this fag with no taste. And I was just like, I don't know, because I know that's not how I meant it. I know that's not how I meant it. See this is really telling, like this is we are all three distinctly
different people. Because Meg's answer is very graceful, like I'm not everyone's cup of tea. Matt's answer is I don't give a ship Christmas. Mine is fuck you. You are disgusting, vile people. But I by it. I did leave up a video recently. I got attacked for days, like the biggest mistake ever. You mess with the law of things there, So I will never again. I will never do another pariod of And people are like, just you know, cool, like keep doing keep doing the videos like, but I'm
like no, because I'm it was too stressful. I love the video aside, because I was like, I didn't mean it meanly, and I obviously wasn't making fun of her mental health. I love I love her stuff. And people kept sending me the video. Fifty people sent it to me, like, I mean, but these children were so mean online their kids,
and that's the thing is they are children. I left it up though, because I was like, you're not gonna make me delete a video that a lot of people ask for that like, I didn't mean it meanly, I'm not If I delete it now, they're just gonna be like, look at this bitch who deleted it. Like I couldn't win with them. Can you imagine if an actual kid came up to you and said some of the ship that they say the meanest stuff. I just blocked block, blocked block. I really hope you kill yourself. It's like
an eight year old. It's an eight year old literally literally just the meanest stuff they can think of. I would if the kids said that to me in person, I would laugh and exactly, yeah, So you just have to imagine that that's them. Every single one of them had her picture their avatar. Oh, the avatars are insane. Avatars are like a little picture of a counterfillar, like with a big dick, and it's just like what, like
it's it's it's. It adds to the scariness of it because it does feel a little bit like who are you? What are you? When there's so many too, You're like where did they all come from? Like how so scary? And the stand culture with her is just so like it's too much. I'll never again. I think we've talked
about it at length. No, I mean we're we're just examining it for what it is, because I think I think a lot of a lot of people in our circle are figuring out like oh, if you talk about any musician at all, you can't do it, or if you stand one, they will be with you forever. Like do you know who calls me king? In my d M box? Every day? Brazilian Katie Perry fans are obsessed because Katie, I guess is still massive and like they're prints, they're they're just like, you have to come to Brazil.
What is it? Do they do? They think the lawn of fans? Did they think that she was going to see that and be like, yeah, be mean to this bit tell her to herself like I love minded babies, Like she would not say that to them, like what they feel like they know her, They were defending her like she was their sister. Yeah. Well, it's this thing that like we've talked about where it's like people are so attached to musicians specifically over like filmmakers and like
comedians obviously or sometimes. But it's like but because like it's this thing where like music is this thing that we all emotionally process stuff through it, and we're like, are so like the music we love is the music we love. So if you come for a musician, I like, you're coming for me, And I think I think that's how they rationalize it. Yeah, But honestly, music is so personal because it happens with your listening experiences within you.
So some people develop an attachment attachment to that that feels personal and like. But and sometimes I do find that if I'm ever like hurt that someone like makes it comment about my taste, which happens all the time. But like if people say, like, I really don't like this music you like, it does hurt a little bit more than than like we both liked a different movie.
Like it feels personal. Like sometimes like the way some people I know go about sharing their feelings about certain things like feels like they're trying to get you a little bit with the way that they're saying you know what I mean? Yeah, And if they have her picture as their profile, it's part of their personality a little like it's like, no, we're the Launa girls. Did you get Did you get any guff from from Demi fans after your Demi video? None? It's probably a worst sign
for Demi. It's not wrong people found it though, because I think early on the Lana del Rey found fans found the video and shared it to all they're like the people, and so Demi just they signed like they know where to be found. Isn't it funny that how like there are some people in the stand communities for a musician who are like who have the followings and
are the authorities on Lana del Rey. Let's say like there's there's like two Lana del Rey accounts that have like tens of thousands of followers, and then the rest of them are like little fan accounts that have like twenty There's like there's like a few respected names in Lana del Yes, they're one of the sources. It's also reminds me of the a A da Armist Updates Twitter? Do you guys call on Armist updates? Wait, it's so funny. It's like Ana da Armas has has deactivated her Twitter.
It all started because Anna da armis unfollowed the arms updates Twitter, and it was just like the Ana da armost updates Twitter, being like Anna da Armas has unfollowed on the armist updates and just like all these on a da Armist films that were like up in arms and so now that she's unfollowed, the kind of troller. Oh, like they were spotted walking arm in arm barely being able to hold their coffees while they got to their house. And it's just like it like updates on her and
this while she's in quarantine and it's insane. But yeah, that's probably my favorite account. Wait, do you know what that reminds me of? There is a comedian whose fans turned against me and I love her because we did a video together and they didn't know it was a joke. And this was another thing where it's like these are kids that love her. So do you guys remember Miranda sings?
I love her? She's so sweet And we did a video where it's like it was it was like me her and Denny drama, like doing like Influencer Day, and I was really annoying to them. It was like a whole set and all her fans were like this girl, they Colleen, this crazy girl is being weird to her and making her uncomfortable. You can tell calling doesn't want to be in the video. The same thing, like she has these mega fans who were like much younger, and they are totally totally like a start, what is it
a fandom? There's there's bigger people in it that like you know, everyone follows them, and then like now some of them do follow me because then they realized it was a joke. So like I have some of her fans and they're yeah, really it's really wild. It's dark and it is. It is an age. No one over the age of twelve. I want to say, like, what would have that impassioned response. I don't. I don't know.
It's just it fills me with drad and um. But it helps you think about it like that, that they're kids, Like it doesn't calm myself down to know that their kids also. I can't stop laughing at the fact that, like when you made that mean video about Demilvada, when you made that anyone come for you? No, no, I made a video setting I wanted to set bb REX on fire and no one said anything like silent totally like where's your fans? Where are they? They're not looking
at my stuff? I guess because it was just yeah. I don't know why. The Demi people, maybe because den Demi was getting it from all sides that way, because it was maybe that's it is, like the Launago Ray fans were like, she made that video defending herself and she was like not doing well. But then I don't know, there's something still scary about the way they acted. I just didn't mean the video. Mainly, I would never make
fun of someone in a mean way. You are Megan's truly like pure of heart in that way, in that way should we ask the question we need to we desperately need to ask the question. Um, it's really the touchstone of our podcast, you know, this question, which is what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Meg's talter. Okay, So I have two things that kind of tied together. So the first thing that
had that was absolutely was the movie Greece. Greece and I when we saw it at the movie theater, I thought it was a new movie, like it was just like a show of it and I was a little and so that was really big for me. We would like reenact it. And I just have always loved a show like I love like, oh you're going to a show like and so dinner theater in like Gatlinburg, Tennessee was huge for me because we'd go every summer really
bad shows. Tennessee was before Ohio, no, no, like we lived in Ohio, but we would go on of course Dollarwood and like all the little country dinner theater shows, like there's something called the comedy barn obsessed. Just wanted to be on stage, was just watching being like, oh, like shitty shows are still good, you know, what I mean, like it's great even if it's bad. It doesn't have
to have a storyline anything. Costumes. Yeah, every summer we would go to everything there, Dollarywood, um, the Dixie Stamp heat which I know is like has bad connotations, but you drank a slushy out of a boot and like just you know, airbrush shirts, like tons of theater around, just like really crappy, like twenty minutes shows. But I was obsessed Dolly kinds of stuff in there. That's that. Yeah, Dollywood is like legit amusement park. They have some great
roller coasters too, amazing amusement park. I always wanted to watch the shows, like I loved roller coasters, but if there was a show, but it's about the performance. Yes, I love these shows that like six Flags. I actually auditioned for one when I was in high school. Um with me and my gay boyfriend, like made our friend's mom drive us, and I sang Taylor Swift really bad for those I think it was a slow one of her slowes songs. I couldn't even show any of my range.
It was like it was like, you know, what's the tear drops? Maybe then I think I started with the opening of it, like I didn't even start like seconds true, like they're like, wow, I get I'm sorry, I feel like it ties in you know the no, I don't show this makes deep sense. I have to say. Greece is one of those things Bowen, did you grow up with with a cultural understanding of Greece? Like or did Grease come later? Because with Jaws? I don't know anymore? No,
no, no no, right. My sister rented Greece in the library and one day and I know exactly what Meg's talking about because I saw it and I was like, this is so exciting and fresh. It felt like a movie that I just come out. Yeah, it's it's truly, it's It's one of those movies that you can put on and like for some reason, I don't know why, but I do know so much of the dialogue, like it just stays with you. It's what, So who are you in Greece? Who? Who did you want to be? Bad?
I still just like can't at the moment, I still can't like accept the fact that I probably will never be in Greece in a life that's not true? Would you do Rizzo? I think you as an adult, I'm like I would die to play Rizzo, but as a kid, I just wanted to be the main one, you know what I mean, Sandy, So anytime we pretend, played pretend and I was in love with John Travolta, so like I was Sandy. But now like Rizzo is the part
is the only part, the only part. But then Sandy, But then U s Sandy is perfect too because it goes you can play the good girl gone bad by the end very well too. And I think I think there's I think there's like a potential to do like flipped casts on alternating nights, you know, where you play Sandy one and rise open Max. And I want to say this that it's not it's not to give you. I agree with everything that my sweet sister is saying,
my sister soldier just saying. But I also want to say, and this is not to reduce you, but just to maximize the project. You would be an incredib a bold Marty. Which one's Marty. Yes, I thought sexy was literally I think that you would be an incredible Marty. It just needs more lines, like if that was a meteor role. That's why I would bigger Okay on the stage you
can in the I did see one. Okay, so my friend's school, this is something that could get in trouble for talking about because he might get mad at me. But he at his school they did Greece and he wasn't in it. But like they have there's online on YouTube. We watched. We've watched this multiple times. At one point, um and all the graduates came back to do the musical Greece just on Risers and it's really sad and
like and I you know, but it's so good. It's like they're amazing, but like, why are they doing in the cafeteria and you guys are older and they're clearly kind of show off. But here's the thing is I posted a video one of those on Instagram. You know those videos where that's a second of the day video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so in one of the videos, yeah, I posted one and in the background we're watching it and someone commented, oh my god, I was in that, like and someone
following me on Instagram was the performance. But video in the background about one of those second of the day videos. How how did they pay attention that close? I think it's because they they've watched it. They watched that video of them enough times to recognize the literal frame at a glance to be like that, Wait, whoa, that's me and she's she was watching me fully in the background, like you see how my screen is? If the TV
was all the way bah? Could you someone you followed on Instagram was watching your Grease performance where you went back to your high school and performed Greece psych I look psycho. But to be fair of that person, if I if I was, I would you like I was in that video? Yes she didn't she was, but if she's listening now, I want to say, you guys did
an amazing job. The vocals were totally. The reason we're watching is it's funny that's my friend's school, Yes, but the reasoning it's you guys literally saying perfect costumes, out of control. You all have headset. Mike, I loved it, stunning, pure of heart. She would never watch it out of no. And I also love Greece, so anyone performing and I would love to watch fully the whole performance. I'm not kidding. What's the story behind you being the fill in for
a miracle worker? Oh so in high school? I just never my drama teachers didn't like me. Everyone else thought I was saynny, but I never got the parts. There was one time I was an understudy and someone literally went out of the performance and I was like, oh, I get the part, and they were like, no, we're still not gonna give it to you, even though you're the understudy. Yeah, literally gave it someone else and I had a small part it. That was blinthe Spirit we
did Spirit? What the funk? They couldn't even trust me to be the ghosts in Blithe Spirit? Really crazy way where did So this is something that I have to wrap my head around sometimes. So like there was a high school really doing Blithe Spirit Spirit? What musicals would they do? Like what we what were some of the ones that we did? Oh god, we did um Little Abner. The one that's a little like we shouldn't have been doing this was Aida because there was that one so
many learning white kids. That's humiliating. Like I was a kid at the time being one of the singers, but we did the sound of music. I was a nun. Anything goes, I was an old woman, just total horrible parts was getting a chance? Is? It's like I was just curious because sometimes like when when I was at n y U and I knew it a lot of musical theater kids like like this Southern kids like from where I guess, from schools that did things like with
big budgets. Like I went to school with this girl who was from Texas outside of Dallas, and she was like, yeah, last year we did the Scarlet Pimpernel and she would show me like full Broadway scale costumes, like you've never seen anything like it, Like I'm sure you know the Jimmy Awards, like when those kids come from those schools and they have the costumes and like, but ever the whole production is like that, like some of the southern schools.
So when you said that your school did Blithe Spirit, I was like, maybe they were one of those schools who did these we did in a low budget, like we we traveled traveled with the Miracle Worker, and I was the mom like where did you God? It was one of those things where like everyone comes with their best performance if you get in, and like everyone else had performances like what you're talking about ful costumes like are set full apart. We were in a cafeteria doing
it a serious play like it's just serious play. Oh my god, that is that's crazy. And so wait, you said you were the mom in the middle for my best role, Helen's mom, so you were not Helen or still not a lead, but like I was, like, it still had lines. I mean, I got the worst parts. So that was like my big senior part. Do you feel this way because I feel like I feel like it's it was a blessing that I never got parts in high school, because truly, I do think it's one
of those it's the drama kid version of you. You peaked at that time interesting because it gave me. It gave me a fire to be like, I want to not do this. I don't want to be in this state for the rest of my life. Yes, and of you, like, think of some of the stuff we get to now and be like, oh my god, high school Megan would
be so happy, you know what I mean. I remember thinking when I was like seventeen that it was too late for me to ever become an actor because I didn't start when I was like in middle school with the rest of the serious kids at the theater. And I remember thinking like I be able to go to school for acting because I didn't do it in high school, and like I always felt like, yeah, it is kind of nice to know that, like you can reassure that version of yourself that that that it wasn't true really
and it didn't. I would rather be like this where you decided as an adult, I don't think anyone should be famous for their thirty When did you decide you wanted to like you know what I mean? Yeah, when did you decide you wanted to hashtag do this? I've always always wanted to act always, but I just didn't. I felt like you had to have like I was, you know, in high school, being like I don't have money to move to l A or New York, Like
I didn't know. And I also I think not getting parts made me a comedian because like I was being so funny backstage with my friends, you know what I mean a lot of time to like find find a way to make people laugh. Yeah, you just have so much time to be like, well, we might as well have fun because we're like stuck here in hell? Can we don't have any lines? You know what I mean?
Like I want to be I couldn't take it seriously, Like I remember laughing so hard during the Miracle Worker during practice, like crying, laughing, like I shouldn't have had a lead role probably, you know, like I probably would have. I don't know, this was more fun, but yeah, I've always I was in one play when I was in
middle school. Was it was Peter Pan. I did it when I was in seventh grade, and I had like I was one of the pirates, and I had like a very small part, and I would constantly funk around with these other two girls who were castless pirates. And then during hell Week, one of them her and I'll
never forget her name was Alicia Barbera. She turned to me while I was messing around, and she said, Matt, it really doesn't feel like you're taking this seriously and you seriously, and if you're not going to take it seriously, then you probably shouldn't hang out with us, because we are going to take it seriously going forward, because we actually want to act. And I was just like and she she had up until that point messed around just as much as me, and we would we we were
goons together. And I looked at her and I was like, wow, you really just flipped on a switch and it affected us for the entire rest of middle school and high school. You can't look at someone different the same way after that, No, after she turned on me emotionally in that way, and also she said this in front of like four or five other people, and it was really hurtful because I thought we were fun friends in like this stupid play.
And then she turned around and maybe she was self conscious about the fact that she had been messing around too, because all of a sudden she dressed me down. And as a result, I remember her full name. She will never be that kind of person. Never, never will be a comedian, never will be nothing, never, you know what I mean? Like to take it that seriously, like we're having fun. I don't know what she does now. At that age, though, I was like a kid who turned
on a fucking dime and completely shifted emotions. And it was just like I decided that I'm I'm upset. I don't know why I'm upset, like I was. I was that girl. What was her name, Elsa Barbera, Elsa Ribera. We're naming names. Can you imagine she's listening, Like, well, if she is listening, it probably not. And so I want to remind her that she did that, like, I just think it's funny. How do you like that to someone? Even as a kid that I mean, honestly, who's the
best version of themselves at thirteen? You know, never you've never said something like that to someone. I've never said anything like even as an adult, if you're like, okay, so if I'm talking to a new friend and I'm trying to talk like ship, but I'm not saying anything mean. But if they're like, I don't know, that person is really nice, then you can't be close to them. That's the same energy as that. It's the worst of me is be like, actually, no, I'm not going to go
on the strow with you. Yeah. It's like oh yeah, but even as a as an adult, you're saying that, yeah, yeah, I don't know, I think they're nice. It's like we're never talking. Now, just make up something to like, oh, yeah, I know they I'm not saying anything mean. I'm just like be on my embarrassing me. They don't know that in that moment, all they've done is established the fact that they can't be trusted. Yes, yeah, I didn't go home being like wow, oh god that person is nice.
For not talking bad about that other person. Literally, So if you want, the cool way to do that is be like, oh my god, that's funny you say that. I actually do really like her, but but I guess that though. Yeah, but at least get on their level to be like, yeah, girl, that's funny, but that is my friend, just so you know, I don't hate you though. That's literally that's so cool, but my stomach literally hurts. Yeah, but that's fine. It's it's gonna be like that for
a second. It's the only way because then I'd be like, oh God, this person I'm talking to is really cool and really nice. I'm gonna keep talking to them. But if you were like, yeah, I don't know, then it's like, oh, I can't trust you. You're right, it's it's hot, it's cool. It would embarrass me, but I get, but I get you always talk about someone, what if that is your If it's someone talked about my best is your friend?
You know, I would want the person to know, like, you can't really keep saying that to me because if you say something, actually me and I probably will tell them they're my clost friends. That is such a good way. I literally feel like it just happened even though it didn't, because you like, yeah, I go, yeah, you're totally right now. It's being in quarantine. Everything feels real when you imagine it now, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yes, I exactly you mean yeah, because you have to. You have
to recreate those social situations that aren't around. So it's like sometimes I'll just be by myself in my apartment and I'll be like, I'm jealous of myself. Myself is making breakfast and I'm so stupid. Things conflict within me. How are you going to do? Imagine something you were embarrassed about in the past and you can't shake the feeling for hours. I just can't shake it, you know, God of so embarrassed? What is the time you couldn't
shake it the most? Just a bad feeling? When when when did you have such a bad feeling that you couldn't shake? You know, I will be honest, I think that now I'm better than before quarantine of self comforting and shaking stuff off, if that makes sense. That's a really sufficient Yeah. Like like this Sunday, I felt like that Sunday sad feeling right, and I let myself feel that.
But then I got up, like and this was hours of letting myself feel that I get really sad, you know what I mean, Like I, um, yeah, So it was like it was one of those sundays I don't I don't get sad all the time. I'm like normally pretty productive, happy, but they have, of course pandemic and then you get really sad in your if you're isolating, it feels so intense. But now I am better at shaking it off. Then in the first part of Quarantine, where I was like panicked, Oh my god, I can't
shake this Sunday feeling off. I'm alone. I need to go to Ohio right now. But now I'm like, go cook something and like, you know, talk to a friend, and it's so much easier now. But yeah, because because you've practiced it, Yeah, I think so. Do you guys feel like that too? Or am I being psycho being too a little deep and dark? I think I think that For me anyway, it's just been It's like I did. There was a lot of time to look inward, and for me, I ended up being good because I learned
things about myself. I'm not sure that I'm um better at shaking off bad feelings, but I am better at understanding some things about what I need and what I actually like. I think that's what it is. It's like not being letting, not like repressing the feeling, but knowing that you'll get out of it. Whereas in the beginning of Quarantine, I was like, I'm i slating alone if I feel really sad one day, which is always like the next day, I feel better, you know what I mean.
It's not it's literally just like a little thing. But everyone has that right now obviously, and um knowing like, oh I'll get through it, and like what to do to give yourself I know that better now, Yeah, exactly, like I feel like beginning of Lockdown, we all were like this, I'm going to feel this sad for the rest of time. And it's not that over the long term that like we've had these huge peaks and valleys
like like like the deviations are like that big. But it's like, oh no, like this is even in the short term, like very temporary, like I'll have a moment tomorrow where I'll feel relatively happy or relatively sad, but then I'll level back out at like this baseline that I'm at now, which like sucks, but it's not going to be for yeah, like even friends that are like, oh, I know, I'm gonna feel this way for a couple
of days, but then I'll be good. Like I feel like people are better knowing themselves and how long as the last. That is really interesting. It's like an increased patience and tolerance for bad feelings in a weird way, which is like it doesn't sound good but actually is good. Like yeah, yeah, that yes, interesting. Sad I think everybody going through I mean, we all are going through the same thing at the same time, and I feel like, yeah, I just was so panicky early on and now I'm like, oh,
I'm having a sad day. I'm just gonna let myself be sad until i'm not and then like get up and do something. Yeah. Yeah that's also And also, um, it's kind of like this is weird, but just getting better at not feeling like every single day has to be the day, you know what I mean, Like it just you give yourself more of a break. That's what I've liked about this. It's sort of happened when I
moved from New York to Los Angeles. I don't know how you feel meg But it's like you feel like in New York you have to have a million things on your schedule every day in order to say it was a productive day. And then in l A that changes, and then with the pandemic, that's actually changed for everyone.
People have to be okay with some days in your week just fully nothing is happening, and that is I think scary for a lot of people who haven't yet dealt with some things they need to look inward on. Like a lot of people stay busy because they don't want to actually sit and look at their life. But I found that it was ultimately helpful because there was
a lot of things I needed to look at. So not I never to be like silver lining about this, but I do think that ultimately these are things that we can take from it that makes us a little bit better people. No, totally, we need to see that
kind of stuff because there's so many scary things. Like I feel like I don't know about you guys, but I um, I have a lot of social anxiety now, Like I feel like I'm always a little anxious whatever, But like out if I do interact with people, not like this because we're friends, but like if I have a Zoom meeting, I get so nervous. I can't stop thinking about it. And it's like that's fun, Like I'm seeing people now, but it's it's so it's like on
another level now because we're so used to reading alone. Now, Yeah, it's for me, it's like on Zoom it's always fine. It's it's now seeing people in person, like every now and then you will see someone in like some a friend you haven't seen in a while, and I'm kind of like always like what am I gonna wear? Like even my friend that I see like once a week, Like I'm like, what am I gonna wear? I gonna put on like my wearing shoes when they come in.
Even coffee, I'm like shaking. I like so nervous to like order a coffee and go back home, like and I know I'll shake that off, but like it's just being out of practice of seeing new people. I don't know what. It's so weird whenever whenever, I mean, I don't know what. I don't know what after COVID me means. But it's like whenever like things start to like thaw back to like some normal social environment, it's like it'll take us. I think, like I'm gonna say like five
months for us for us to all get used to it. Yeah, you know, I'm wondering if, like when dating starts again, if I'll be like or I'll be like, hey, I'm Tyler, I mean Matt, Sorry, I forgot my own name. How do how do I sit here? Like? Is it just sitting like a chair? Like and the eat fairth restaurant, Like I feel like that that might be me, or I might be like, let me smoke a starette. Let's I don't know what one on one meal already makes
me nervous. Like even with friends, sometimes I want another friend. They're like the time because literally this is another thing. When you're alone with other, with one other person and it's been a while since you've been around anyone, you're kind of like, should we fuck? Always You're like it's just before wait are you? Are you guys like online dating right now? Or like I'm I'm just chatting with people.
I'm not like I'm not really seeing anybody. It's always have fun to flirt with someone via text, but you're also working and you're you're you're needing to not see people it's responsible for you. Not even during the time off. I was like, I think I'm having fun just flirting. Yeah, and that's it, and like ending it there. I don't know, Yeah, I think it's the best part. I think. I'm like, I've never seen this guy. He's listening like you have to you have to be a firefighters. That's kind of
the best part, you know, waiting forever. He's like listening, like, Okay, it's fun to wait forever. And she's like, no, to meet physically impatient to share space. We should wait forever. So we're very like, don't go seeing anyone else. We're exclusive. Mr Distance. Yeah, you don't even want him seeing friends. Stay quarantine. He's probably get vacinating soon because he I think he's like frontline basically, don't get into this. Yeah,
that would be so hot. Well, I keep laughing like I'm pretty far down the list, like conveniens, I'm not getting that thing until everyone else gets it. It's so true. I mean, I'm praying every day too, but no one here has any any pre existing healthy girls. I'm so happy. I'm so happy that you're so healthy. But the list, my physicians, the physicians assistant, I say, called today and he was like, you know, your liver enzymes are high. He was like, have you been eating and drinking poorly?
I'm like, I've not been drinking any alcohol since the pandemic, Like I'll have like one drink a month, So it's got to be eating, I guess. And then he's like, Okay, no, no, it's fine. But I'm saying like I guess, I guess. You know, this is a this is a totally different question. But to Meg, does him getting vaccinated? Does that help with anything? Are you still going to kick the can down the route? No? It does. I'm I'm really nervous because of COVID vaccinated. I'd be like, can't I put
it anywhere? Yeah? No, I am going to probably I will probably safely one day meet him, and um I um yeah. I'm just so there was one person. Now I'm just giving everything. There was one person I was hooking up with. But this is someone I knew for sure, already knew, so like I knew she was home alone, I knew she didn't see anyone, and I knew her.
But him, I'm like gaining trust, you know, learning like of course, you know, learning about him and I do trust him, but it is scary to question about the person that you were hooking up at the beginning of pandemic. Were they someone you were hooking up with pre pandemic and it rolled into the pan or was it a friend that you decided to start hooking up with the pandemic. This is good. So this is somebody who I hooked up with years ago, and there's not to say we
won't start hooking up again. But here somebody who was like a past This is a girl who was like the first girl that I know I like, but she was dating just about to start dating someone else, so she was kind of already into someone. I wrote her a song like the most roman doing thing I've ever done. It was at a live show. But she's come back and what what I literally keep forgetting this is going live? But no, it's all my stuff though I haven't seen anything.
But she's somebody who came back into my life during pandemic. She lives in l A. Hooking up very safely. I mean I'm talking tests talking, has seen no one else. I'm talking. We're both were looking like Arrival when it happened. We were in those big orange suits. Mother holding up the white board, holding up the white board, writing in I touched your breast. But this is like three years
ago when I was like, yeah, yeah. But isn't it interesting how those early hookups, like, even if they weren't great at the time and like it ended or whatever, it always in retrospect years later seems like the hottest thing in the world. There's a couple of guys that, like, I get so horny for now when I think of them, And like I that I hooked up with like four or five years ago, that probably if we hooked up again, it wouldn't be great. But it's something about the romantization,
romanticization of it all. You remember everything so more like much more romantic. I think, Oh, yeah, you just want you just want to extend the memory too, and maybe not extend it, but it's like you just want to like kind of like add a new volume in on on the shelf. You know, Oh my god, do you know that song by bon Jovi? You want make a memory? You know another song? Oh my god, I don't know if you want to make a memory. You want to steal a piece of down, Yeah, the me a couple
of you want to make a memory. It's really good that I didn't know that was bon Jovi. It's such a good song. And the verses are like, um, it's it's being a wow and new it's you good times. It's really just like this person is from your past that you see again and you're like, let's make a memory again. But I said that to you in real life, let's make a memory. You might be turned off. I would be I think, do you guys have a weird thing?
If someone says a weird phrase, I kind of start freaking out, and I'm like, well, I ever see them in the same way. And I'm trying to think of like what someone would say it's happened before where someone sets And I'm not judging either by the way. I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what someone would say. And what if someone that you were hooking up with just turned up you looked at you dead in the eyes and was like, I love you. What would you say? I would be like, what would
you say? I love you too? No? I would stop and be like, what's going on? Are you okay? And they'd say I love you. I'd be like, do you why I'd be like, why are you saying that, and why are you saying that someone is someone who I'm hooking up with it for the first time saying that like second or third time? Check? Please I go check please, I go uh uber please use. I was actually thinking more like when people say things like awesome sauce, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know what you're saying. I'm thinking like just goofy text, like, oh, you're talking about so confused at the PROSCT thing. But it's like, oh no, I'm not judging any sex talk, but you you're saying like a cool beans, yeah, like to eat your ass, And I'm like the cool beans, but okay, they're awesome awesome sauces disgusting. What's some gross ones? Beck we're talking about talking about? This is ego. She hates the word awesome in general. If you say awesome
at all, she hates it. And now I'm self conscious now like I'll never say the word awesome again in front of anybody. I think I say awesome a lot. Yeah, I'm like awesome, It doesn't like what is the word like wait, wait, meg ego nor um hates us No, no, no, no, no, it's I don't think either of you. I actually don't think either of you say awesome. Not much. You're not I've never heard you describe something like when people say, oh, I have this ick, like when people do this, Awesome
is not one for me. I'm fine with awesome. I'm totally awesome. I caught myself a couple of people I know say the word rad, and I caught myself saying rad a couple of times, and I was like, I don't know if I need to say rad. I've tried it on. I like you guys saying rad, though, but if someone was like, I think it'd be rad to have sex with you, then it's like, maybe, I don't know, that's okay, it's really awesome sauce for me, that's really there's a couple of ries you can't think of, like, um,
needo skitoe. That actually too so goofy that it's fun. I'm gonna start saying needo sketo, and if anyone says anything, I'll just be like everyone says that Neto sko, like letto sketo. My mom broke someone because he said something and I can't remember it was. I think it might have been like he said something like, oh I look like a goober or something like full broke up with him over it when I was younger, and I was like, oh,
I guess that's a thing. Like if someone says something you don't like, sometimes it's hard to get past because you know that that's like part of who they are, part of part of who you are is how you're communicating, You press yourself. So I don't know if I could be with someone that said goober. You know, what's a pet name that I never liked, But then I heard people say it and they it worked for them, and
so now I'm not opposed to it. Calling someone your boo, Oh I don't that might be an ick for me, like boo, come over here. I have I have the most out of all of us. Yeah, wait, I want to hear more. What about baby? Like do you like baby? Because I know friends that don't like it, and I kind of like baby baby. It's kind of flies out of my mouth. It really doesn't matter how I feel about it. It is how I when I have a partner,
It is how I refer to them like it. I know some people think it's annoying, like but I think it's a cute nickname, one that I like, but I'll say it to friends and like in text A lot that I'm like could be someone else's ick is I like to say, like Bunny is that funny? Like flop? I've never said it to like someone I'm dating you, just sits and friends in texts. I've just been texting it a lot. Buy fine, it's cute. I think it's amazing. I think it might person I don't think I really
say it in person though. My fifth grade teacher was My fifth grade teacher was named Bunny and her last name was Cornfield Bunny Cornfield ms, MS Cornfield, Miss Bunny, Cornfield woman. She was, Yeah, she was like in her r um late forties, not older, but she was just like a relative to me, being like no. Nine. Yeah, at the time she felt so old. To you, a Cornfield is what's really freaking me Outneld, Yeah, I guess, Like you know, here's the thing about Another thing that's
hard about parenting is like naming a child. Like, you know, you have a certain last name, so it's up to you to pick a first name, not just that you like, but it's going to be a dynamic name altogether. Like, so if your daughter's last name is Cornfield, she could be Abigail Cornfield or like you know, Melissa Cornfield, or like Kelsey Cornfield. No, give her something that's going to have some character. Bunny Cornfield. We can literally see it.
It's a bunny running through a Cornfield. Positive image with that person like it it does something for them down the road. Yeah, you want to know that middle name. She has the joke which she was always joking like everyone's like, what's your middle name is Cornfield? And she'd be like in a and we'd all have a big laugh. Yeah, maybe she doesn't have a middle name. Some people don't. Maybe she doesn't have one, doesn't have a middle name.
What's your I don't classic, classic, classic. I feel like this have that middle name. I feel like it's it's and this is just like statistic. This is not me, Like I'm just saying I think it is the most common middle name for for for women. I think it's it's a classic for a reason. Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful, because it's one of the most beautiful names in the world. Marie. It's just so it it's a very gorgeous name. Thank you. Guys. You know, I used to not really like my last name,
not like hate, but I didn't. I love it now. I mean I love my last name now and for years now have But when I was a kid, I feel like I didn't really like it. I never hated it, but just I know that I didn't love it. And now it's like I love it. But yeah, your your whole name is is perfect. It just rolls off the top.
I think I just was like not popular in school and middle school, and like people would say it wrong like Statlers, you know, Salter, and it'd be like me being like it's Stalter, you know, like there was just it was more about me growing up than actually not like but I do like the name. Wow, really going off about my last name. But now I do like
it though. This is what it is when you're young, when you're growing up and people say your full name, you kind of like attach all your insecurities on it and then as you and then maybe when you start performing, it's like, oh no, this is like how people know me definitely yeah, and being so proud they know your last name and you you love it now, But when you're not, when you're not secure and you don't like, you're not in love with yourself. You know what I mean?
You're right it with all those insecurities as being in middle school and like, I don't know, just being like not popular. Imagining another kid say your lot, like your full name to someone else, and you'd be like, oh, why is there like for me, why is there shame attached to that? I don't know totally now love it? Yeah? For me, I think it was two things. It was like the fact that I didn't feel special. The name Matt Rodgers is something that thousands of people have, famous name.
I like, I do like it now because I feel like I feel like, um, it's a three syllable er like yeah, Meg Stalter, not Rogers like, but it's like it's easy, it's easy to do, it's easy to do, sounding like a fucking absolute fool. I just think, yeah, three and four syllable names are fun to say. Yeah, it's pleasing to your ears. Yes, yes, Yang doug less
game sonny, Anna, Anna has four, no five, Anna has well. Well. Anyway, I think that that was that was really important that we sort of like you know, found our names and now we're gonna find some humor with I don't think, so, honey. A humorous segment just to sort of spin around the comedy block right now with I don't think so many are fame segment where we take sixty seconds two rant against something in culture that we hate. You have something I do, I do, Okay, so I'll put you on
the clock. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many times starts now. I don't think so, honey. Intersections,
what has ever come from them that is good? It is a confusing moment when honey, two, three, sometimes four cars arrived at an intersection and it becomes what can only be called a standoff, and at that point, sometimes it is a he said, he says, she says, she said, or she said, she says, she said, she said, whatever combination situation where some person thinks they were the first person at the intersection and another person is the same thing. Is this easy to navigate? I don't think so, honey.
This resulted in me getting into an accident today that remember this moment. I'm so upset my car was totaled because I was at an intersection where one turn was not a right hand turn, or was only I can't even tell you how this person messed up. But they're too confusing, they're too hard to navigate. Make all roads straight or you turns or circles. That's how I feel. I don't think so intersections. I'm so sorry that happened
to you. Was bringing back all the memories of earlier listen, and I want to say clearly what happened, which was we I was driving down the street. Here came an intersection. The person in front of me blew their stop sign, which by the way, was a right turn only stop sign, and they went straight and I had no attempt to break in slam. I blame intersections. I blame how confusing the stop sign was, and the fact that people be acting a fool when they approach intersections. It's just they
need to be outlawed. Coming. I'm looking at you. This is what you said on one chance. That's what I said when Biden Harris were inaugurated. I said, one chance, one chance, outlawed them, outlawed the intersections. So bow and yang. Usually traditionally, after I go, you go mm hmmm. You're feeling good about that? I think, so yeah, okay, cool, that's perfect Because I have in my hands phone and I'm about to hit it, and at this time bow and yang, you're I don't think so any time starts now,
I don't think so. Honey, toe nails. How come when i'm how come? When I'm clipping you, you smell like you smell like you could be a pretty good cheese. I shouldn't be hungry when I'm clipping my toenails. You know what, I'm getting vulnerable here my toe nails. I clip him and I go the odor on this. If you didn't tell me it was from a foot, I would be like, this smells like a gorgeous career. Isn't that disgusting? I'm stops, pick your jaws up off the floor, everyone,
and listeners and readers. I have a superpower, and my superpower is my toe nails smell like cheese. It's not photodor. No stop it. You are you cannot make me feel I don't think so many to nails and then okay, but beyond that, when I collect you in my hand, it just feels so gross. I'm saying it's gross. I'm saying it's gross, and it makes me feel a shame. I'm like, why am I I should not want to eat this? And this. I'm looking you in the eyes right now. We all feel that way, we just don't
say it. You don't say you feel this way. Do you feel to smell like the most amazing cheese? If I'm saying, if you're Meg, Meg, you stay hot. If anyone is in denial about this listening, you are the closet, your feet smell like the most amazing cheese, and you can sort of smell that. Well, there's so much body horror in this episode, not being a little clean girl. But I have never thought about that. Maybe maybe it's different, girl. I don't think I've never thought about your little naughty
but I certainly didn't think that. But I'm not judging you. I'm just a little surprised. What part of your body smells the best that you might think of eating? Um? What part of my body's saying part of my body's body. What's the part of your body where you don't mind
the smell. Well, I guess I'll say this, it's sometimes it's cool to smell bad if it's yourself, Like I would say that if my arm pits smell, it's kind of like And I'm just trying to be kind of a little bit saying a gross thing because y'all did. But um, but like if my arm pits smell, it's kind of like if I'm not going anywhere, Oh that's interesting. Why did that happen? It's not that I'm not even turned off, not to know, no end do, but it's almost like a science. It's kind of like a where's
that coming from? Yeah, it's like, wow, that's my body can like when you have you ever had like your bio changed differently and you're like, what have I done different? It's it's more interesting then turned on. But um, what if I'm just making this up to like, yeah, I think we will smell our own bodies and sometimes want to eat ourselves. What about you? What part of your body You've got to make kind of regulation? Yes, well, part of your body. I just want to say I've
never done it. I've never eaten my toe nails. Everyone stopped, put your pitchforks down. Oh I have put your matt Matt. I'm I'm like a fucking slob though. When I was younger and I can't talk about this. Oh my god, we can't talk about this. I think it's time for mag Okay, I'm nervous I wrote it out. I tried to do a real one, because remember on your show, Your show Live, I did like a silly one. Blood was coming out of my mouth like sort of was one of the most iconic. You really stormed the barn
wanting to have sex with my brother? Was that, like, I don't think so, honey. My teeth bleeding every time I had something something like my doctor says, I my teeth cleat every time I have sex with my brother or something psyche. But it was like a prank that was blood. But I tried to do one that real this time where I'm really mad about this thing. You have the range. Okay, this is next, Dalters. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Phone calls giving me, giving me a mid day heart attack, just to see say see you next week, honey. I've never gotten a call that couldn't have worked as a text, sweetie. Literally while writing this out, I gotta call that lasted only ten seconds and almost made me throw up, Honey. And it's been easier, sweetie. I don't even have number sames, so I don't I don't know who this is so I let it go to voicemail, but for some reason, you don't leave a voicemail, and the rest of the
day I'm having a panic attack. And one time somebody texted me and I paid to find out who it wasn't it was gen really, and I dragging. I was just me saying I don't save anybody's number. Now I did save his number, and to have some of my family's never said, but stop calling because I don't I don't know what what the number is when you call. And also, please don't FaceTime unless you tell me before they you're going to face find me. And none of
this applies to your family or friends. But it doesn't make me nervous to get a call or a FaceTime when I don't know what's coming. So just text me before. And that's the one. In a minute, thank you for speaking truly. Don't you get nervous when you get calls? It just throws away literally? And I want to I
can I can I reveal something right now? Someone has been knocking on my door and ringing my doorbell for like the whole the last two minutes, and and this is very this situation, So can I just go see who it is, and I'm like, yes, old o, my god, be careful. I'm scared that's someone knocking. That has to be like a package deliver delivered or we gotta keep all that. Yeah, he's only computer doing a zoom thing said, what could it be? What was that? What was that?
I left my keys on the door and it was some good and that you hope that gives reason to pick up that phone to answer that door. That's the reason. That's what's scary about a call is that I think if it's not a text or an email, something must be important or or something. So I'm freaked out. If you don't leave a message, then I'm gonna wonder what it is. But I'm not going to answer if I don't know have your number saved? You know what I mean?
I think you're for texting yourself. Yeah a question if you're If you're not saving some of these numbers, then when someone texts you from the number, you just have to do you prefer you just look back at the old text to be like, oh, it's that person getting a little better about saving numbers. Like, but I will have to a lot of times read what we just said to each other to like be like, yes, who.
Sometimes I'll answer and I don't know who. I've had full conversations with people, um, but I don't know who it is and literally sometimes a way to figure out who we were talking to. But I want every everyone else there were texted with me to know it could be you. I've had people where I don't know where I know them from. They're fully talking to me and I slowly realize who it is who I know them from, and then I'm like retracing my steps. Did I react the way I should have? You know what I mean?
And usually it's no, And it's like I created a weird vibe, right, And it's also it's also interesting to sort of interact with this person who you know you know, but but you don't because of the contact, because then you do start like analyzing the way they speak, like awesome sauce, like when someone says, hey mama, when someone says Chica, when someone says girly, girly, girly, girly, god, girly is so funny if you're doing it funny, And
then I'm doing funny. Yeah it's and now I'm like, am I doing it as a joke or not, because now I said, well slowly over time. Yeah. The other thing is if you're talking to someone in person and you're figuring out who it is, there's a moment where you do realize who it is and you're trying not to show that excitement on your face, you know what I mean, Like like you're talking to someone you don't
know where you know them from. But then then you finally clicks and you don't want to be like, oh my god, because they've thought yes, yeah, yeah, and then you feel bummed that you didn't act that excited from the beginning. Yeah, you want to go back. Yeah, it's so beautiful. Oh well, I'll tell you something. After a traumatic experience today, I was gonna ask you, how do you feel? I feel? Okay. I think I'm just gonna
lay down after this and like just chill. Because it's so funny what happens like when you're in something like that, Like at first you're kind of like I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm totally fine, and then like an hour and a half later, you're like, oh no, I just that just happened. So I probably just laid down. But I will say that this flipped my whole day around, and I think even at the end of it, I will call it a good day. Oh you're not just saying that kidding
literally not. I've been such a shockingly good food after this, because you really are so funny and so funny and good guys are so funny. I'm feel so easy to talk to. I can. I can listen to you talk forever. Man, you guys, because I get so anxious sometimes for podcasts. I get nervous in this. You just made me laugh. I think I talked too much. No, no, never, so fun you guys cracked me up. I'm crying, Meg, Well, you're crying a lot. You you test me, you go,
you're saying that, but I don't see the tears. Know, you made me laugh so hard. This was like so much fun. You got to come back on any time? This is true next week? Why not? Busy? Next week? I got I log on every time. You're like, I didn't know she was coming in today. She's so funny. If I really did that, I guess she's been on in two consecutive weeks talking every We're to have another
host kind of come in for a year. Um no, but like Um, I feel like one of my big regrets about leaving New York was that we never get to hang out. Really, I r L like, I feel like you never got to hang I never got to hang out with Mega. I know, we kind of missed each other on the goddamn scene as it were. I'm so obsessed with you guys, and I met you on the same day and was like, I need to be best friends with you guys, and we could. We didn't get to hang out in person for longer than a minute.
But and it's also it is it is unfortunately history that you were We're supposed to be our guest the weekend. That isn't that right? Yeah that's true. Yeah, I know, I know. So this is this is a beautiful you know, azure for that. But it's also I mean, it's also just so special because I mean, Matt and I talked about you all the time and then fucking and then Meg did um the show that Sudy Mo and I did at Freehand Hotel that was like the last shows
I did line and you and you killed. I've never seen anyone I know you are truly, you know, what's what's really, what's the real truth is that when I did my Christmas show and Chicago to not this last December, but before at the Hideout, everyone there was like you were so good. We came here because um, like we're fans of like Meg, and like we found everyone when like like truly like you were like they're like, how
is Meg? Like we miss Meg? Like they love you at the Hideout and like that whole the Hideouts the best place in the whole world. That whole community missed you. Oh that makes me cry. I I just love Chicago so much and so just in the Hideout just I mean, it feels unreal when that room is packed. It was crazy.
But know when that when that we had a good audience that night, when that space is very the energy is very electric, and it really felt like like like just a hot vibe, but it was very Yes, it is insane and just I don't know what it is people standing or the size of the room, like just the people that come there, it's just, oh my god. And then every ever been there, I've never done a show there. You have to when it comes back around.
I want to, and you want to. But I just I was just gonna say that, like the Chicago vibe and the whole community and the ethos of it is of common like you were wearing a Sarah squirmstreet right now, right like I'm just like, god, like what like a special place my best friend just so fun coming up there, like because we're all doing it for fun and everyone's so good there because like you're just like comedy school.
No one's watching us, you know, like no one's there's no job that is a that is a vibe that
is um. It feels sad to say that. It feels like the end of an era, but that moment in life, like for us, it was that like wow, all of a sudden, Now we started talking about this at the end of the episode when it's like but like like that just going to UCB and like the good days like or like the live shows, any Brooklyn show, like when we were performing college but and like go to Skidmore and stuff like you know that that's like truly a moment in time, like those formative comedy years when
everyone was just going for I've always loved it before. I feel like I have other people that I know that like are just like when's it going to happen? And I love before when when is it going to happen? Like I love waiting to see they don't realize it's happening. Yes, yeah, totally, Like oh my god, it was so much fun and and even now I'm like I can't wait to see what happens. Like I like the like not being famous and being like people can discover your stuff, like who
wants to? I don't know. It's fun, it is, it is, I go, but I want to be famous, kidding. Put me in a film, I'm like, but get me offline, honey, you put me on the screen, put me in front of a camera. It's a big one, you know. But that part is obviously the dream, Like how fun to
be like making TV and movies one day. But like I just think being in Chicago, no one knowing like anything, and even before I put stuff online, just being like being at a show and having to like win the audience over and I'm this big freak on stage and like they don't know me. That's so fun. I always
love that. I always always But it's like sort of like ingrained in you as a performer, like the way to do that because I see you go up on I I would see you go out on stage and I will see you in the future where you just like immediately everyone's like, wow, we're key, we're keying the fucking you know, and yeah, you carry the light. You really are, Oh my god, and that's really getting the tools. Well, you guys know, I'm so obsessed with you guys, So that's so nice to say. Like, I've been a huge
fan before I even knew who I was. I was obsessed with you. We're obsessed with you and we together. You're awesome, Sauce Bunny obsessed, like fucking awesome, Sauce Bunny. It was Bunny awesome. Sauce was so everyone. Everyone's talking about it for him. Oh god, it's really bad, isn't it. I'm hearing no, I'm hearing you stay it out loud and it makes me laughing. I think we've got to start calling each other Bunny. I Anny could be cute. Hey Bunny right on the grammar earlier to a lover.
Maybe weird, but you know what it works shortening bunny to bun. Oh my god, but hey Bun. I don't know if it works for me. It's a confab and hon. I think what it works is when you're a nanny and you're calling the you're watching a bunny. That's cute, bunny bird. I say bird a lot, but to it, no, no, someone exactly my age. I want to call them bunny. You like it now. I'm like, I like you looked. I'm like you looked amazing, bunny, you look great. But
I missed you, bunny. I misuny fun you killed, you killed, you killed. If there's my bunny kid girl, Hey bunny boy, funny bunny boy is actually cute, Hey bunny boy. I feel like work says you're a funny, funny bunny, cute, honestly kind of cute. And to think that he's a father, he could say that kids telling a kid bunny or bird, that's funny, adorable. I think we can all agree, and I think these kids and this is actually it's it's actually segways beautifully into the song that we finished every
episode with, and then Meg will join us. Kids are like a bird. Hm hmmm, I like a bird my way. I don't know, my I don't know, I don't know. To listen to that song, you listen to Nellie Vertato, fine,