"LiterallySisterLife#" (w/ Aidy Bryant)

mention Cats. We didn't talk about and that was the piece of culture where everyone was attacking us, attacking us online and saying, how dare you not be recording episodes when Cats is happening? I literally was like, how did we miss it? It was monumental? Well, I feel like it wasn't even bad enough for us to like talk about in some ironic way though, and I and I had to preserve my whole relationship with Cats that I've maintained for my whole life, which is that I've never

seen it. We'll never see it. Um have you not seen the movie? And I know everything about it, but I will never see it any InCred you know everything about it a lot? What's can you sing a little bit of beautiful ghosts for us? Please? Well? That's that's not real. That's not Cannon, that's Taylor. That's Taylor and Andrew Lloyd Webber and miss Webb and Miss Webb Taylor Webber. Okay, what do you want to talk about with cats? I just bowing. You're being like rude. Oh my god, you're

actually being really rude. Okay, what is literally it's rude that we talk about cats all the time. And then I say, oh my god, can you believe this? And you say I didn't even care. I'm sorry. I don't mean to shoot your enthusiasm and accepted. Okay, so what do let's talk about it? When you you went to see it's very stone. Judy Dench had our human hands, yes, but none of the other cats did unconfirmed. I think the other cats had their hands. Well, I'll say Judy

Dench had hands. It was like it was like it was like they said on at before they got that shot, and definitely show your hands because they're gonna be animated. Because she's like this holding her hands basically in front of her face, just like singing. They went up to Judy they were like, Judy, can we put the motion

the mold cat balls on your hands? And she was like absolutely not um and in fact, I will be placing them at my at my own decltage level, just to show everyone that I would have no part of the digital technology. It would have been fine. I feel if she had not had her wedding ring on, because yes, because then once you see the wedding ring, you're like, Okay, so where's the cat's husband? Like what happened? How long

have they been together? Because the cat then has a history that we want to know about because she is the most exciting character. Judy Den Judy, we all remember her name. Old Deuteronomy Act came out? No it did? She played old dude. Yeah, she's old dude, the first woman old dude the first and there had never been another woman. Will do? I think it's crazy the Academy shortlisted Cats for special effects or whatever that that that category is, even though it was an unfinished special movie.

I know, yes, that's true. What do we think of Oh, we talked about best Original Song in the Culture catch up episode Beautiful Ghost. Do you feel like it was snubbed? I would say that, Um, it's hard because Beautiful Ghost is not a good song. But nothing that was PERFORNDT of the Oscars was so then you get to the thing of like, well you got you want to at least see Taylor on stage doing that was Taylor's bid to be on that stay on the Dolby Theater stage.

But she'll have more bids, many more, But she will, she will. What do you I don't think it looks for her in terms of film, in terms of musicals, in terms of film, what do I think is next? Well, the Giver to the Give her To they'll do. They'll do a Chicago reboot next spring. Sure, she's gonna play Hillary Um in the film about Hillary's life. Yes, it's it's gonna actually be about the it's gonna be about

it's gonna be called Hill and Bill. And that's actually a romantic comedy about um, a young serious student named Hillary Rodham who was when they slept, actually right off her feet when she met an amazing next president whose name was Bill Clinton. Actually what school did they mean? That? And they met at Arkansas State That's where they because

that's where Bill and Hillary both went. And you know, the film takes a little bit of liberties, like she's platinum in the film and Um, he's got like very big muscles. Because Taylor actually plays Hillary and Scott Eastwood and Scott Eastwood plays Bill because they said, let's get the most talented act let's get let's reunited. Yeah, right um, And they said, wait, we have to get the best actors from the Hill and Bill and we gotta make it.

And do you know the classic scene from the trailer? Yeah, oh yes, let's quote it. Yeah. I feel like this conversation is just starting. And I feel like I feel like, you get those jewels up, girl, you're pretty behind those jowls. Let me let me grab the yes. And wow, he wasn't kind to her from the beginning. We find out the film and you know, it's a rom calm. People make jokes about how it's it's playful ribbing about how the other person is ugly. That's what rom coms are.

I can't believe they picked that scene for the trailer. That's crazy. That that's that's crazy. That's like I said, the most famous scene from the trailer is the most scene the trailer. Now, readers, people who can photoshop the poster, please do it, because there's also a scene later of her at the DNC and she says women and has her bomb on her on her mouth, here's the deal with our guest. And there is a deal. Oh, there's every deal. We were just staying off the air that

there has been years of scheduling mishaps. This actually is in the industry of Hollywood. Um, it's something that people talk about. Yes, they haven't been able to get the scheduling together for this today. I think they call it development. Hell, yeah, this this episode has been in development. Hell. But so happy and I'm clap both my hands together like this, so happy that we could finally develop what should have been developed many years ago. Unfortunately was that in hell?

But I actually think that this is coming right on time. Oh yeah, because it's because it's always Christmas, because it's Christmas now it's literally, Um, what when is this coming up? March? It's mid March. It's mid March. But um, I'm thirty on this episode. Oh my god, that's cool. Not thirty now recording. But I will be thirty when this comes, When this comes out, you'll be thirty. Everyone which Matt happy things, but ours our guests. I love our guests

with a purity and a passion. Truly, you would diagnose yourself as loving her with a purity with a purity. Um. I I could cry, I could cry, and but you won't. But I won't. And this this is I'm looking at you. You're not gonna cry. She she truly is the best um Emmy nominated Honey, never forget, Never forget. And it's about the prizes, and it's about the prizes. That's what she actually said that. Um. When I first met her, I was like, hey, and she was like it unless

you can't help me, got ahead. It's I'm in this for an Emmy. Oh my god. Okay, of course I was like, let me Matt by the way, and she was like this is this what And she said, whatever you say to me right now doesn't matter. Oh my god. That sounds like her. Yeah, that sounds just like her. No, just kidding. She was really nice with me. She's an angel of angels. She um is starring in season two of Shrill Please watch it on Hulu, and one of the other shows that she's on is Saturday Night Live,

which is a variety sketch program broadcast live from New York. Yes, almost every Saturday night, almost like some some break twenty one weeks out of the year. Yeah, it's going going on for upwards of third these seasons. It's over thirty um seasons that it is. I can't wait for this. I'm so so excited. I'm love for so much everyone. Welcome into your ears any Brian, My god, you know

I'm such a listener to the podn't stop that. To be here and like actually sit through the intro, which I have like listened to so many others sitting before. Was just how I imagine doing terrifying. Yeah, it's always a little ride it and we do land, we stick it in the warmth of a guest. I also like you guys like do a good job of straddling like the credits, but also kind of like the human element. Yeah yeah, well it's like, well we want to get across. Is our guest is talented, but our guest is a

human being? Yeah you know what I mean. And that's it's really important to get across because a lot of these people they think stars, they put them. Yeah it's one of the because you see them all dressed up and you see them all dolled up on TV and you think, I bet that person is really has it all and I did full hair and makeup. Yeah, you're thank god thank you for the contort, because podcast or

a visual medium. Yeah, of course. Now, ad did I say something in the Hill and Bill truly that made that made you specifically put your hand over your mouth. I think it was the Jewls. I was like, holy shit like that. I think also that it was like, you guys, really it's a rom com, but then he starts with the gewels and I assume it ends with him like fucking a thirteen year old? What it is? Yeah, I think that. Honestly, I didn't know this, but this

rom comments a lot darker than we thought. It's about how in every interaction they've had, he insults her, insults her, and but then Jeffrey Epstein played by me Bryant, well, I'm sorry. I Matthew McCay, Matthew McConaughey audition and was cast, and then Adie just called and said she wanted to do it and and they were like she'd be a better Epstein. I was also shocked by, like, you have a good Clinton, like that was a rock hard Clinton.

Well that's actually actually runner firstitle of app is going to be rock hard Clinton. Absolutely not absolutely not it actually and it's actually not not up to me, it's actually our producer. Um, and she said she just piped into my ear. Oh piped in Yeah, I got that. I got that. I actually have a permanent hip put in my ear where I can have producers at any time talk to me. I love it. I love it, Adie. What is your vibe in LA because I this is I'm seeing you in a different setting and I really

I'm picking up in a different energy. Oh yeah, thank you so much. I've been waiting for this question for anyone for a week. What's your l A vibe? I think l A vibe is like pretty high. Like I'm doing like a lot of like, oh I gotta get to this dispensary in that dispenson. But I'm also like

very um, I'm I'm like cash. I think I'm pretty cash in a way that like in New York, you're going to see me in a boot right that I'm formal, but it's a boot city and I feel like here, I'm like I'm in my vans hanging ten or it's actually you can wear flat shoes out here and no one else Yeah, no one's like that woman needs to

be in a heel or a boot. Sure, But then the bad culture and l A is is crazy because if you're walking down the street I've said this before with a toe bag, God forbid, then you get the craziest looks and people can actually smell the foreignness on you. I see, and there's no backpack people. Yeah, and I do definitely feel that people are clocked like you don't

belong here, you fucking bitch like you? Yeah, Why do you think it's because you're They think you're a bit because they they have seen you associated with New York so many times, Like I think it's I'm famously in New York. No, I do think it is just um, it's like we were too much black and like we're a little too dressed up. I don't know. I feel like I go to like a friend's birthday and I'm like, I look like I'm in a goddamn ball gown and

I'm humiliating. Listen, it is it is. You do have to adjust to the thing in l A. Of Like my friends will get ready for like a lunch and it is a capital a capital l lunch. I mean we're going to a place, but we're wearing like, like truly like socks and a sandal and like a big shirt. And no we didn't do a shower, so our hair is weird, you know what I mean? Like and you can go out like that on Los Angeles. It is a thing. I think people find that charming in Los Angeles, Yes,

that's true, whereas in New York. I yeah, I love that. This is exactly where we started with the podcast, like, how is l A and New York different? Well, he asked you the question I asked you. But why are you laughing? That's an earnest question. Oh my god, it's good. It's good. We love l A. And actually I think to myself every damn day how happy I am that I live six minutes away from the Universal Studios Hollywood. I passed it on the way to work and I

see Hogwarts. That's perfect for you. There's no Hogwarts in New York. That's true. Now we're about to say something was I I don't know. I was just having a nice time talking about how I have two friends who have been hosts and winners at major awards, because it's about the prize. Did you write an Emmy speech when you were nominated? Amy Puller gets mad when people don't do that. She says it in her book. She says, I always feel like it's crazy people don't write a speech.

I remember that was the only part of this place. I was like, I guess it was just like, no way am I going to win. But you could have been the and oud that night to be but I wasn't. I don't know. I mean, God, bless the MMIs. It means everything to everyone everywhere. But like I kind of and I know that, like this show is often about talking about who was noting whatever. I do find it to be like absolutely toxic's hard, it's a hellish thing.

And and you know, I don't know. I was just talking about this with someone the other day, where like sometimes if you look back at past winners, you're like, oh, this is darkly meaningless. I don't know. I'm like literally sometimes I will hear like when you did um Andy Cohen and he asked what you thought about something someone did, you said three words which were like, so just your grasp of a sometimes a you have a way with words.

You just said, I wanted this paper. I do find it to be an absolutely, and then I honestly stopped because because I needed to. But what did you just you, just the way you just just horror, horror filled, hellish, toxic and hell that's what you said. I do find it to be an absolutely toxic and hellish thing. I imagine that Poe quote Glamour darkly, darkly meaningless. Ady Bryant on the Emmy Awards. Not this to me, Matt do not and NBC will have my head. It means everything.

She said that the same poll quote, It's amazing this woman is all over the world. I am nothing without the industry. I need it. If they value me, I'm better as a person. They make me sick, the industry that, Yes, they make me sick. I do think it's like absolutely dangerous to well. First, I'll say this fame is a disease that is killing everyone who experiences it. Okay, people

who don't even experience it. It's killing, that's right. And I've maybe never identified more with anyone than Britney Spears in the moment when she shaved her head, like I often through the smallest things, I'm like, that's it. The shavers by fuckers, I'm going to the woods. I can't do this anymore. At the same time, it's like you can't, Yes, it's like if I I don't know, if I engaged too deeply with like the Women of the Year or them or any or any website or a girl. It's

like it's a dark thing to chase. I think it's whole time. It's a lot of waham. Yeah, I'm a little biased. It's my favorite episode of season two of Shrell. Written by one and only super Green super starring Matt Rogers starring of course, come on, I was the lead lead. Wait, I come out. I realized something before and Matt has a huge onset energy. Yes, tell me about this day because I only heard bits and pieces of it. Well

it was two days. Oh, they called me a hard recurring Actually, when you look at when when you look when you look at the credits, it says also starring guest star Mine said hard recurring record recur Matt rod refers to your har rock hard rock hard Clinton, my rock hard. I'm gonna start calling my penis my Clinton. And that's actually up to you how you feel. It's

none of my business. You know how you feel. This is so, But I just want to say I did come in a little hot because, like I said, Sudie and I were at Universal Studios, Hollywood, and we did talk about the darkness of fame on the way in. Yes we were talking about de Lohan and saying, you want to know what because she wasn't stounded by good people. So that was what we said as we were like scanning our tickets to go on the Transformers ride. I

said this to you yesterday. I was like, my theory is that lindsay that he was not surrounded by good gaze specific she had bad as you said this, and then today we were talking about how so okay, quickly this and then I want to say the thing I found out on the set of Shrill, Oh my god, he's got He's so much like paper and pen work. This is our first time with Nope. I've literally never

once used a notepad. I'm actively using and every time I'm like, okay, something big going on, something big coming. So study and I were saying that when when you're in any way involved in entertainment and like the famousness aspect of it becomes a thing like you really have to ask yourself why you're doing it. And I think like people who don't know why end up getting taken advantage of by the media because they like want to do more and more, and they'll just play ball and

they'll keep playing ball and they'll keep going. It's like we see it happening now. It's like people just can't stop getting attention and that's how they get themselves into whole sometimes and they get fucked up. But there's people who I think tell the industry. This is why I think people like Pink and Kelly Clarkson in music are like have longevity because they say, just so you guys know,

I don't need this, and they have that energy. Meanwhile, someone like Lindsay Lohan, like I don't think ever knew why she wanted to be famous. She never examined that right exactly, and she never found out like why it was that she was doing it. Wasn't her parents, was it something with her, was it something that exactly? Was

it about the art? Ever? And I think that because you're too young and don't know enough to like figure that out or activate that in your life or do something about it, you get sucked up by the industry

because they'll keep taking from you. And and I just feel like people that, you know, maybe they haven't been super famous, so they've had the time to ruminate on it, or they just always they got famous later, like people like I'll say it again, like because we saw Kelly's billboards everywhere and she's huge now, I mean I was like, it's I think it's because she always was like I

can take or leave it. So that's just something I was talking about with study today on the topic of darkness of fame, which pertates to this pertains to this episode that aout Actually pert tell me about these two days of shooting. Yeah, Matt, I would love to hear like take because you know, I'm absolutely everywhere. And Nadie was actually editing a script while she was shooting that episode, and she is truly crazy. How hard she works the best there is, okay, and studio always has all the time.

It's like she's inspired by you and how hard is an angel in my life and an angel and each one of our And also was truly my entry point to YouTube, like where long before I met Bowen, I was listening to Last Culture and we're at the table, and I can say that after working with eighty on the program Shrill, I actually I did have a bone to pick because I was casting in this in the series. I had an actually pivotal role in the episode of wa Ham, which was written by Studio. As we said, now,

the character he did not have a name name. His name was Handler. So I said to myself, I would like to give him a name Chelsea very close spelling. Okay, your sister to me literally sister life literally literally sister life hashtag at the end, at the at the end of the words. Now, I said to myself, I'm doing a backstory for the character of Handler. He is Chelsea Handler's cousin and he met Vanessa's character who I work for in the film Shrill, the film episode film, every

episode of film. Yeah, I think I agree, and I want an Oscar badly. Yes, and actually oscars can go to the TV shows. Now that's our marriage story. That's true. Um. I think that they met at a white woman event that Chelsea Handler was at and she said, you should mean Mike, you should me and my cousin, and that's how he got the job. So his last name actually is Handler, Mr. Handler, and his first name is say it with me, Chastain, Chastain Handler Chastain not not said

weird as Chaston actually spelt like Jessica Chastain's last name. Wow, that's beautiful. So that's actually that was who I was on set. You weren't actually interacting with that, you're interacting with chasting Yeah, and that's how it felt. Okay, So engineer Doug is telling us to go to break, will be right back, and I want to hear No, I want to hear more about this, I really do. I wasn't sure what to do there for a second, but

Doug is over there behind the glass thing break. I'm like, yeah, and he and he's got a weapon, So we gotta go. We gotta go. We'll be right back with Adie Bryant, and we're back and we're actually um so actually, I want that was so fun. I want to know details about the day. It was just very fun because it was like an absolute all star squad where like Natasha Leone was directing, Vanessa Beyer also starring, and Greta and Sudy and and mad. It was just like so fun.

Oh my god, how amazing is Natasha Leone as a director? Oh my god? You worked with her as well? I worked with her very well. She's a table of actors actually as a table of actors and and we picked up on the fact that Natasha leon our director had also come from acting. Yeah, you could actually pick Actually on set you had a feeling. Yeah, you had to feeling like you actually know how to talk to me, and no one does. And that's what I every time I got to a set, I'm like, no one here

knows how to talk to me except for Natasha. Yeah. No, finally, No, she's she's unbelievable. Maybe I can't do an impression you just try to want to do an impression of actually own here and now you went me maybe for this. No, you can't. You can't. Absolutely, Actually it's in our contract with iHeart Radio. We can make no edit. That's absolutely very bad for me, for everyone involved. This this episode is actually what we call a steel trapped prison, steel

trapped internet prison. Oh my god, be with the hard ones then and I'll absolutely crumble. Okay, thoughts on second amendment? No, no, no, I think do you think it's time to ask the question? Yeah, because I don't think you can probably unless you want to take more crack at than is actually okay? Do you want to? Yeah, you know, for this take, maybe try what is she dresher? You're so happy to go lower Hunt, You're so bad. I don't know. I feel

really awful. What are you talking? We're not talking about this. I can't bring this is an impression show that Wait do you want to hear impression that I do? Yeah? Hi, have one too, so Oka, sab Sandy, this is that's good. That's really good. Here's my Aria day. Hi everybody, that's me. Yeah, that's really good. What are your impressions? Okay, okay, not

famous one not shut up? Okay, are you ready? I'm not going to say who it is because I think you'll yes, yes, okay ready, Hey man, wait, that was a bad one. Let me try it again. I think I know. I think I know that the way I need I need to focus and actually try again. Matt stop okay, hey man, oh I know I'm panicking. It is Bart Simpson. Actually get it better. That wasn't good?

Oh my god, oh my god. Shut he tried to do a Bart tonight too, because you went on the Simpsons dry and I was like, shut up, I have I think I've tried to do my Bart for study and she said it was bad. Can I tell you think I'm good? You actually are amazing and it was really good. Um wait, you actually amazing and it was really really um I went and I guess it was Mark Marino and then hey, hey man, that was better.

That was good. That was good. That was better. That was a good bart You know, after I left my my interview with Lord, I had to go back. Oh, better not watch your ass. I've been on that podcast. She's been. That's actually goes for me. Wow. It actually it really was like so fun, it's cool, and he's very insightful and asks great questions. I agree. You know that sometime someone said that we were the gay w T.

I think that's true. Do you feel that way? That's actually huge, that's actually huge, and uh, we're not nearly as insightful, but are you kidding me? I've cried multiple times listening to the pod. Not from our insights. Yes, I think sometimes when you guys deeply talk about like your friendship or growing, I'm like, damn, this is extremely

real and extremely like hardfelt and true. I think that, Um, I think that it helped that we literally thought that zero point zero zero zero listen to it in the beginning, because it's set a tone and we're still able to do that. I wonder if we like sold a podcast now, like if we if it would be we would even think to like share anything real? Yeah you know what I mean, I have a question but before we yes, when you're writing shrill, is it no? This because because

talking about bringing real life to things? Yea, how because it's based on Lindy's like work, But yes, but I would imagine that everyone's stories go into it. How many personal stories are in the show where you're like that is so real? What? Um? You know, it's a really

a mix. And it also like you know, I feel like the first season, especially, we were like a lot tighter to the book, and now the second season we definitely like are a little bit looser, and so there's pieces of you know that, And that's what a writer's room is. It's like you're breaking the story together and adding little pieces to build a whole thing. Um. But definitely, I mean like in the second season there's a scene where I like barf and then we like say spoiler

like say I love you to each other? And that was like something that did happen to me, Like I don't know, I have many like things where I'm like, that's straight from from the book of my life, you know, or whatever. But but it's all like in an effort

to tell something bigger or whatever, you know. But like I do think like deciding on those like emblematic details that tell something about the story is like kind of what you have to find, and often it's hard to kind of pull those out of thin air, and it is easier to like kind of reach back to like something in your own life and twisted up or whatever. And then when you're when you're doing it, like and like when you're like acting like the experience that you've

already had, is it does it? Does it like scramble your brain a little bit to be like I gotta like stick to like what this authentically was or you know.

The only time where it maybe kind of did that was in the first season, the fourth episode, which is like the pool party episode and like um and doing like I kind of had like this like long monologue after words where I'm like kind of processing the day and like that was maybe one of the only times where I was like like at times just because I was like, man, I kind of haven't been to this place in a long time in my mind, Like, uh, I don't talk to myself this way like or you

know that those kinds of like hateful self thoughts. I really don't go there in the same in like towards my body and stuff like that. I just don't, you know. And it was kind of hard to like go to that place of like having that epiphany or something. I don't know, this sounds very accurately in lame, but it was like it was a little like freaky that day, you know. Yeah, And that's that's just I've told you this.

It's that's a huge, huge, huge episode for everyone watching it because there's some analog to like another aspect to anyone who's watching that's life. Like I like watching that episode, I was like, this is what bubble t is. This is like what like me like going to like an all Asian queer party. What the fuck? I like, I did not know this existed. And then like processing and afterwards was like mapped out like exactly to that episode where I was like I did not know how to

process it afterwards for a long time. Yeah, And I think sometimes even like seeing something where you're like, oh my god, this is so my ship or whatever, it can be very hard to afterwards be like Wow, I've had twenty some years of like a lot of pain and shame and self hatred for like kind of no reason, Like I mean, not no reason, but it's definitely like it is a little bit like you've agreed to live in this system that now we all agree fucking sucks.

It sucks, and that we're and that we're like trapped in because we all know it. But it's one of those things that you can't just agree to all change. It's just like a mindset. I will say one of my favorite things about the show is that it really really authentically and like totally just right gets those specific emotional situations across like and those dialogues that you have other people when you're talking about real ship. For example, like in the Waham episode, I said it too, Sudy.

I was like, I gotta give kudos to all you guys because the conversation that you and John camera Mitchell have after you come back is and you've come back from Waham and you're like, I think it was fucked up, but also women weren't enjoying it, and it's it's very much like an observation on those sorts of things which have a high price point and you go and there is community, but you are being taken advantage of if

you choose to think of it that way. And I thought that that scene between you and him was so um, truthfully and authentically a scene of two people working it out, like you really like, we're so good in that scene.

You were so good in that scene. It was such good writing the story forward too, because it's like, oh, like these two characters haven't interacted in this way right exactly, and actually, like you know, John's performance there, it's like for the first time ever, he was like really uh, the character was really engaging with her as like a pupil in a way and almost like he was challenging her.

And I thought that that was just like wow, that really really felt like we the audience, we're working it out too, Like it's so what you want from like art and like like a comedic examination of something, because it's like you really presented the totality of that kind of experience, which must be I should be enjoying this, I am not. Am I fucked up? Is this fucked up?

Are we both? Kind of like I feel like that's like most of the human experience right, like your whole I don't know, this is like a oversimplification, but like your whole high school experience. You're like, when I get to college, I'm going to be a different life. And then you get to college, you know, like I don't

know any money, Yeah, I'm scared or whatever. You know, It's like it's always that way where you kind of like think something is good, but then you get in it and you're like, I think this is mad or like, you know, it's just it's like too complicated and nothing is like black and you know, I just like I was so impressed by that particular scene because I now that I'm in a writer's room, I know how hard it is with like a lot of people to write

something that feels like a conversation that's really between two people. It's just it's so much like it. There's so much more that goes into like writing TV and creating TV than you think, and so put something that's so I felt so real, like and so honest and really kind of like about what it was about on screen. I

thought was like, wow, just kiss God. And you know, something I didn't dawn on me until like way after the fact that like this season, this most recent season used like song covers as a plot divine and I was just like, I didn't realize until after because it's obviously intentional, but I was like, OHI Peter singing God only knows, Thank God you brought it up, and eight and and Annie singing It's all coming back to me, and and Lolly singing, um fucking Lolly's whole performance this season.

Lolly is unreal, unreal, Emily fight master incredible, that relationship, that that arc, like you'll you love to see, you love to see Emily a star, a star. Oh and they're a very hot person, you know, And I think it's okay to say you're the most gorgeous people in the world of essentially a crime. It's actually crime. And I hate them. Sorry now I hate now now we hate them. No, but put the song selection all very

queer songs, can I can I reveal something? I put my ass on tape doing God only Peter Smith's role and so basically, okay, so this is what happened, that this is hot inside there is a tape which that and you were very funny, Matt, You were so funny, which was like kind of like not well, like Peter is very funny in the beginning. It quickly yeah it's real, and so Peter is the start. But because I knew

Sudy was had written this like handler part for me. Yes, we we actively in the writer's room were like this will be mad like this, like truly like bitchy, like you're so good. It was really fun. Do you remember, Matt. I also tried to pressure you to sing on the stage, you know, like you should sing. Look at you looking at the ground, kicking your feet and you're like sing a little which I was like, get up there and just like singing a little bit. I think a little

tiny bit you did. I think I said to like, because the character has to get everyone up out the seats, and I think one of the times I came out and I was like, get up, get up. They were just like what was that? That's actually I was like, what did you do? Yes? And so that didn't make the cut. Oh no, get up, get up. That's actually ahead, get up, get up. Oh you gotta get up. I know you're gonna workshop it um and it's not going to be for us, It'll be Forda Actually almost forty

five minutes that's actually that. I think it's the time we are no stop because I'm still talking about on set. Oh yes, okay, I'm done. Oh anyway, watch Shrill? Please? How do you do me a favorite? Please? Watch Shrill? What are your friends? How are you feeling about Susan two?

Like now that it's been out like night yea, it is really it's a very different because I don't know, being on SNL is like so great, but it's definitely like when people come up there like hey, you're funny, like whatever, you know, it's like a quick and I would imagine people are like what you've done? It's just

so much more intense. It's so much, but it's also incredibly meaningful and like I really make an effort to like I can't respond to everything that comes in, but I like I really read it all as as I can, and it really really like, you know, when I'm like fighting about the marketing of the show or all those things, there are times where I'm like, what the funk is this for? And then I'm like, no, that's what it's like. I do it for the goddamn girls, Like that is

literally why I wanted to do this. And when I started and what I wanted as a child, so like to be doing that. It is a dream, Like it's a total dream. I feel like the impact is outsize. It's like huge, Like I feel like there is some like really really like like visible like real tangible cultural like like moving of the dial a little bit with this,

like truly all of it. I know it's it's true, like watching it and hearing Study talk about it maybe like that's like my little like unfair supplement that I have to all this is hearing STUDI like talk through the process and like talk to the show and what the room is like, and she has nothing but good things to say about and just like, oh, like this is a huge show that like she's opening my eyes to all this stuff that I never or give a

second thought too. Well, you know, I'll tell you one wild small experience that I have had, which has been like extremely like active fit like Instagram like food freaks kind of who are like I only eat seeds, but I've been tagged in like multiple things from women like that who basically are like I gotta say, I used to watch the show thinking like fat people were lazy and gross, and I now like have empathy and feel for them and I understand that, like they're human beings too,

and that to me was like, holy, how did you take that one? I know, but you know what, grateful for it, because to me, that's like what TV can do. You know. I always like make you see people who are unlike yourself and you're like, oh, I'm interested in fare about them or whatever. And also we all know it's hard to get truly anything made, and the fact that like you've gotten something made that like does is meaningful to people and also is like so funny and

great like and it's gone on. It's just like I'm sure it should be something that every day when you drink your coffee you think wow. When I when I talk about the cultural impact, I just mean that it's like good for the city of Portland. Yeah, that's it. That's all I was just I was I was merely only talking about like it's great that people like it

empowers them. But I was talking about the Portland community that I'm happy that that people there get to get to work and the coffee people like when you're on your way to set, like I'm concerned that they're working. Yeah, And I want to be clear that I think what me having a TV show is more important than like, you know, pediatric surgeon, Like I don't even know what they do. I don't even know what a pediatric surgeon does.

I don't know what pediatrics is, orthopedic, pediatriciropractic. It's actually all the same. Dove just raised his sign. He's at ad breaker else, so we'll be right back when break or else else we'll get into a very big weapon, very big weapon, and we're back now and we have to ask the question. I'm going to hand it off to you because here's the thing we actually said on our new podcast, we're going to do after our first

ad break, We're always going to ask a question. And then here's the thing we were having too much fun and spun off, which I actually had a feeling what happened on this I knew it what I didn't even have a feeling. So one of the things about this podcast is that we ask every guest the same question. And the only person we haven't asked is Margaret cho

because we got too scared. But we are going to ask you because I feel very comfortable and I feel comfortable enough to ask the question that We've asked to everyone else, which is what is the culture that made you? Adie Bryant say, culture was for you. This was the defining pop culture that came in a moment where you were like, oh me, I'm in that I'd like to

develop from based on this point. You know, I've listened to the show many times, you but so I definitely like, you know, there are things where I've I feel some overlap with like other previous guests, you know, imagine they're all dead. Yeah, I will say I was big into Greece. I was big into you know, freaking peee Herman. But I was thinking about this this morning because I knew I was coming here. I think you remember John Waters.

Oh I do find I feel like I found John Waters later though it wasn't the first, but John Waters is big. And then, um, I think what I have to say is like local commercials in Phoenix, Arizona, where I grew up, it so often was like the wife of a man who owned a furniture store who was like and now I'm going to sing on camera, and like that for me was I just like even as a child, I knew like this is crazy, or like I love her light's camera action mattress. Okay, there was one.

There was one. There was one woman whose name was Debbie Gaby and she was like very southern and she was like, I'm Debbie Gaby and then she would there was a song with it. She worked at a place called Sleep America and she was like, Sleep Ammerica where America goes to sleep? Which is and Sleep Ammerica where America goes to sleep. Can I ask something annoying? Is this the inspiration behind our waterbeds are the best? Absolutely? Yes?

Actually that was based on a woman a different Arizona commercial where um, this woman sort of saying like these like jazzy songs and um, the it was like Express flooring is the best and she did a little head bob. Can you can you sing one? Um from your childhood? Okay it's but National American University. We all had right one day, one night, Saturdays, all right online just by night time any time, get your degree, set yourself free,

National American University. That single, it's a soaring melody. I love it. It's genius who ever wrote that? God bless that. I'm freaked. That was really good American University. And then and the ads were it was one person singing this an amazing voice. Gender is unclear, but it actually works perfectly because they cut two different people. Generic people just lip sinking to it, just smile on their face to the track and it's beautifully, beautifully done. And then was

it like personal injury like lawyers too? One that was what eight hundred steamers that's incredible, but there wasn't. It was like they would steam your clothes. And then there was there was a steam cloth carpet. No, I don't know, I got to be carpet close. They don't have that money, Okay. There was also I have to say that I think for me what like I was grabbing onto was like there was an element of like sex and like performance that I wasn't finding like in loose Arizona, you know.

And it was such like an element of like she's taking her moment and getting on cam. I don't know it it is that is an energy. And also it's like there's something about out like how many takes, There's something about what did was she involved in the writing process of the jingle? There's something about what's that relationship? Um, here's one that I really liked, so this is from Sports Radio in the morning. Okay, okay, so this was this is the theme Sports Radio sixty six. We again,

now York. You know that, well you're saying, and it was. It was. There was a show about baseball and football and all that, and yeah, you don't have to get to Hollywood to get a Hollywood ten, to get a Hollywood ten, god to get a that's beautiful, but like beautiful little little lilts and Grace Notes were saying. I was just going to say, like, I also feel like part of it was that there was like a little western flavor, like a little Southwestern taste like that. You know,

I'm not a huge country head. I like the older stuff, but as a child, my next door neighbor he worked i think for some sort of country music station and he was a DJ, and so I was always like, yeah,

I'm kind of in the industry. Because it was part of this was because I have a feeling that I think we all kind of attached to these commercials and a wait for us, for like us little like show people were like, oh, there's an entry point for like entertainment that is kind of accessible and attainable end and it's in my town. This was made in my town,

which was like big to me, arizonahtag reason. But there was one that was like for this casino that was kind of on the outside edge of town and it was like a montage of like poker chips and like hot women in red dresses. And I'm going to sing it for you now. Yeah that wild Horse Pass on the side, quiver on the west, go to the river. He luria a casine. No where the winners go? Where that's actually really emotionally where the windows? Fucking wrote it?

Who wrote it? Honestly? That person that I just had chills thinking about it and like, you know, think of me like fat twelve rose a show one tooth, absolutely sunburned and just being like to the river, the river where the windows it's transporta. Now we're talking about this casino that's in Arizona. Can I tell you something that I've noticed about Arizona A lot of state pride or maybe I just watched the view every day. She's always

like Arizona girl. Yeah, Megan, Megan, and you went to high school with Megan, yes, and you know she loves to say this and um, we did not know each other. We went to high school together. She was a senior when I was a freshman, and that's like a gap of chasm that you can't really cross. I mean, like no freshman talked to senior. Well. Also, like her dad had a computer lab named after him. Yeah, I would imagine that every elementary school and every school there has

a McCain. Yeah. I think it was like based on donations and stuff. And especially now there's something about Okay, not Colorado is literally hundreds and hundreds. It's the West is actually the same. There is this like arid culture. I mean, I don't mean literally the farmland is arid.

It's just like everyone's brains are bad. You're absolutely a villain what you're joined to you So you're attacking arid culture and you' attacking Arizona and then the whole West, and you've attacked the jowels of a young I'm just saying, growing up in Colorado, this is like truth. And I'm so grateful for like whatever, like you just growing up around all the Mormons and the Whatevers and the and

the ski people. But like it was not meant for a little gay Asian boy like me to thrive in right, I agree, with you completely that Like I feel like a little bit like Utah, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico. It's like important to be normal. Like it's very like that is their culture is like everybody is kind of the same, we all kind of dressed the same. It's important that we're having normal, nice lives, which you know, I think

it's very comfortable. But if you're not feeling like you fit into that normal, you're like, holy fuck, I can't exist here a little bit, right If you have New York values, well, this is the thing and the boot you wear boots in New York's cabo. I okay, No one's brains are bad in there. Some people it's just not the brains are actually bad because they don't wear sunscreen on their scalp. I'm just saying, like it's a

weird ass place. My thing about I. I love Denver, but when we went to I told you, right, Brittany Colston, Yeah, I have not attacked or she she she literally saw me ten eleven years after me and pat riegan eating burritos at Legal Pizza, but before our show, before I don't think so, honey. She comes up to me. She goes bowen I haven't seen you in forever. I thought you were going to be a doctor. You were always so good at math and like, get away from me, girl,

and truly. But then she said the bleakest thing to me, which was, it's crazy that you went to New York because no one leaves here. And I was like, you cannot do this. You need to like you need to like tell me how beautiful it is to live here. Yeah, I would say, I am like rooting for Denver rights. I've never been to Denver. You gotta go at Denver's. Denver's phenomenal. Now, that was one of our best shows.

I don't tell anyone in Denver. I'm just guys. When I talk about Denver, when I talk about Colorade, I mean growing up there. Please, that's whenever I big reference to Ahil and I always talk about it. It's it's it's how because you have to understand something. I don't know when you guys realized this about yourself. But I remember when I realized I had New York values. I actually did you realize? I actually remember the moment I realized, oh my god, I think I have New York values. Yeah,

when when don't leave on the edge. I'm edging over here. Actually realized remember the moment um I was watching um American Idols and Ryan Seacrest said, You're going to Hollywood, and I, um, you thought I want to go? I thought Hollywood? And I came to my pants. And that was also when I realized. I was realized what that was because that had never happened before. Yeah, and that first time, that first time, it was always like what's happening?

You know? And so then I was really uncomfortable, and I was kind of walking around in school and I was scared to talk to the health teacher. Yeah, so anyway, it's obsed. I didn't know what I was going with. It was good, it was good. It was good. I'm so you and Megan are probably the two most famous people from your heart. No, I think I'm a stone, Yes, yeah, yes, really, Yeah, you guys bond about that. We've talked about it definitely, which we did go to the same high school also, yes,

but barely bare. I mean she was a freshman when I was a sophomore, a smaller gapaer gap. But no, I don't know. I definitely I feel like at least with these commercial women, Yes, I was very like, I think those are all the characters that I play on us in l Now. You know, I don't know you are you are very good at and this is something

that Sudi is very good at too. When we were doing together, she was very good at playing like that girl, you know that woman you guys that you thought you were the only person who knew like my favorite is um when you played the woman on the airport, on the A on the airplane. Yes, well I'm a fan. Wow. Okay, so let me ask you, let me tell you something. You don't just come in here and say I'm a fan of you. We're a fan of you. You actually you actually are a guest that we wanted to get

on the show for years and had scheduling conflicts. I know, but don't you feel like it almost happened so many times where it would be like a veal Thursday and you like, we're only a Bill Friday, like some difficult starlet. Okay, well you actually, you actually are the most famous person here. And that's an accusation. That's an accusation, and that actually gives you power. And we're on the receiving end of a bad power dynamic. Yeah, I don't know who. That's true.

I think that Bowen is more famous kind of true. I mean that genuinely, I think, and I genuinely reject. I reject this. Okay, well, I guess because I feel like that you've been getting the press. I mean, she was written about by miss and you want do you want? Can we talk about this? You think? I think to some degree, to some degree we can. I'm decided to see what to agree you guys too. So January twenty something, it's a Saturday. It's a Saturday. The piece is going

to come out. And I had a feeling the whole time. I was like, I'm not going to like this. I'm not gonna like this, and so you decided before meanwhile, talking but no, no, no, no, no, here's the thing. Talking to Marine was great. We had such a nice time together. But I was like, there's gonna be something about this, no matter what, no matter what is written,

that I'm gonna that's gonna upset me. And then sort of had that sort of and I hadn't been sleeping well and truly, like I get the New York Times emails like every fucking morning at six am, um, and it pops up while I'm like tossing and turning in bad and I'm literally sleep deprived. Had just come from a damn pre tape. Um, that's as low as you can go, that's as low as you can go, six in the morning on Saturday morning, having just shot a short short as hard as you can It sounds, it

sounds horrible, it's horrible. I just want anyway. So then I read that the whole piece and I was like, uh, this is really fucking weird. And then went to work the next day and then I just was feeling so out of it, and then I get the most blessed text in the world from Adi Brilliant says, Hey, I don't know if you're blocking the next thing, but um, if you're not, just like, come swing by my my little house for a chat. And I was like, wow, okay, this is what I knew that this was what I needed.

And then I saw you had to go through security, because there's security security separate actually, so I gave him a pass man cast actually is in the castle and and featured, Um, they still have to be in the swamp and yeah, that's right. We send down our scraps of our old spaghetti for them to eat in the swamp, the scraps of spaghetti, scraps of spaghetti for the swamp.

And then I go into her and then we just had like truly the most meaningful, best, most like balming conversation I've ever had at that place, truly, like you like talked me through it in such a perfect way, and we you like really like found every single little wrinkle contour that I hadn't even thought of yet to be like and actually, what you're experiencing is maybe this, and I've experienced this version of it, and I was just like, WHOA, yes, crazy, and um, I don't know,

it was just a mental lot and I love you dearly, and I think it is. I mean, it's kind of like just what we were touching on of like it's tho as low as you can go. No, it's sucking, not like kind of where it's like you feel incredibly honored to be like written about in the times. You feel like, oh my god, I can't believe I have worked so long and so hard to be at this place. But then at the same time, it's a really bizarre experience to like open up your personhood, your family, your

sense of self to be like consumed by the public. Absolutely, And I think if you have like any uh sense of like grounded feelings, it's like you're like I'm in outer space and there's no handbook and and even like a therapy piste can help you, but they can't know what it's like, and like it's just a Really it is kind of one of those things where like I really end up turning to Kate or I really end up turning to like people who are experiencing it with

me at the same time, because it's like it's just hard to describe and you don't want to sound ungrateful, but it is. It's really dizzy ng and like freaky. I mean, to be out of control of your narrative at all has to be a like crazy making experience, like especially for people who are like used to creating and used to expressing to you know what I mean, being deliberate yes, and then and and also like I mean, especially with you, you are very Actually I hadn't thought

about it like this until now. Really, you are someone who is so detail oriented and you're so like um, you know, you like like things the way that you like them, like you are very um, like, I think that you like aspects of control, and so to hand it over like to someone who's writing a piece about you that's going to be probably reached by more are people than you've been able to reach right now in terms of, hey, here's something about me, Like this person has a lot of power and a lot of control

over that narrative, and they do that, and so I can see reading it and even though I think it was like, you know, there was nothing about the piece to me that I objected to. For you, I can see being in your head and being like, well, this isn't me, and I am allowed to have an opinion on it and a take on it because it has an opinion in a take on me. So anyway, um,

that's my literal relationship. But I will I will say I'm not surprised that that well, that's something I'm not surprised, just that it's like, of course she reached out because I feel like you are the kind of person and I could sense this, like even like watching you through the screen when I was just like a fan of yours, like when I was watching us, and now I was like, there's something where we the audience and that's why I'm not surprised that people have connected with Shrill like you

do have the quality where it's like when you're like joking on SNL and you're doing these things, you really feel like you're doing it with us, and there's a connection to that we have to you. And so the fact that you are so actually lovely is just like, well, I could have told you that. I feel like that that really comes through on screen. It's so nice. Well,

it's true, it's very touching to me. But there was there was something remember when Adie got hired, like and you and I were just watched it because I was there the process, but but but like just watching it because I remember it just being a thing where you were like, oh, that's like that person. It's it's it's what you describe when we play star actress, like a star someone who pops on the screen and you're like, please don't put it stop. This is Matt and Matt.

Matt brought this up the other day and it's like the encapsulated thing about stars that they show up on screen and you go, I get it. Yeah, I feel like it was like day day, motherfucking one. You're like yeah, there were everyone, but curse me if I'm wrong, Like

it you had to work in the beginning. I mean, I mean obviously, like when you are, you're so talented and that's apparent, but like I remember on that first season, like you had the sleep the best friends, and then like I remember, you started to get more opportunities and I really saw you like shining and like like but I think that for example, with you Bow and like first episode they had you like doing a weekend future, and I think with you it was a little bit

different where it was like and like you know, that is why like every new cast member has like such a totally different experience, because I would say it took me like two years to really be like getting stuff on that I had written, and part of it was just like I was like I don't know how to fucking do this. I had never been on camera ever

really ever. Know. I was like doing you know, second City shows and like improv shows in Chicago, Like had never even done like a commercial or anything, and so it was just like I don't know how to do this. Like it took me a little while. And you came from improv more, right, did you? Second? I mean, yes,

Second City is sketch. It's it's weird. I definitely did more improv like that was where I started, but it is like, yeah, I kind of did stuff with the annoyance, which is like writing or improvising to write like if that makes sense, um, and then Second City is like sketch. So yeah, I mean I had written sketch, but it was just like you know, on that level, it's it's

how you relearn everything. Yeah, because I mean, I I kind of like to say that I that I kind of like was broken down completely last season as a writer, and I want to I want to retract what I said because it made it sound like it was easier for you immediately at the show and you did have and it's always hard, but where it's like first week, the listeners might be like he just was an assholt. You had. You had the kind of year that everyone has where it's like you have to figure it out.

It wasn't like all of a sudden you arrived and were like a princes. The amount of times I've sobbed in study's office, Yeah, oh the sobbing is key. Yeah, it's important. I mean, and I definitely like remember there was a time where like I was had just started on the show and like my piece like crushed at the table, and so I was like it's definitely gonna go. And then it didn't get picked, and I was like that hurts. And then I went home and Connor like

still was in Chicago, like shutting down our apartment. So I was like home alone and I reached to throw something away and I leaned forward and hit my head on like a wall basically in this apartment that I had just gotten because I wasn't used to it, and I remember I slid down the wall and was like like just totally all blown. And it was like, you know, you're fine, honey, here on a Saturday Night Live. They're

paying you. But it was like, you know yourself, it's confusing, and you know, I don't know, but the fact that it's Saturday Night Live makes it hard. It doesn't. It's not a comfort. It makes it harder because when you're a first year person SNL, I would assume it's kind of like and I felt like this with the audition to it's like they this is your moment to do it, and so if it's not going great, that's what's in your head? Like it's not. It's not I'm on SNL.

Don't worry, It'll be fine. It's I'm on SNL. Fuck yes. And it's funny that you say that, because like, truly, when I got hired, I never was like jumping up and down like oh my god, I got hired us now, Like I right away was like, oh fuck, I'm terrified and like this is gonna be hard and I'm scared.

And I never really had like a celebratory moment maybe until like Shrow came out, because I was just like, I'm I'm like, you know, that's an interesting that's not truthful because I I I also didn't really have any moment like that either. I was just oh, fuck this, this has to happen. I have this opportunity window that I have to like, yeah, of both of you guys, Like, do you think that how you felt about how your audition went played into how you felt when you got cast?

Like did Julie of your test thinking I crushed? I don't know that I thought I crushed, but I definitely I remember like when I was auditioning, I had gotten I kind of had met Jason Sadecas before and and he had kind of messaged me and been like, you should do this political impression because she's going to host a debate. And he had kind of like given me like an insider Yeah, he had told me, like you should get Candy down because you know that put that

in your audition. And I remember just like kind of being like, maybe I should listen to Jason, you know, he's giving me this insider tip. But at the same time, I was like, that's not me, you know, like I'm not like a impression person, and this is my one chance to audition for S and L and I really just want to do like my ship so that if they hire me, I I'm like hired for my ship and not because I was trying to be something that I thought they might like and that question and so

I really only did like dumb characters. I did almost no impressions. I wrote stuff that I thought was funny that like I liked, you know, and um leaving. That was my guiding light, like when I got hired was that I was like all I did was stuff that I like to write. That's what they hired me for, Like that I can do, you know what I mean? Instead of feeling like okay, yeah, yeah, like I was just like, okay, I can hold on to like the

stuff that I like to do. I don't know it's it's because it's I guess it must have been comfortable. They liked that, like my work totally, like I wanted to continue to pretend. Yeah I couldn't. I don't know. So so I didn't leave being like I crushed, but I left at least being like I did my fucking thing, and either they like it or they don't like you know, that's me, you know how feel well. I just want to first off say that that like takes so much

like conviction of self to like stick to though. I mean, and you were you were like twenty nine. I was gonna say, like nineteen, and then I don't think I could have done it. That would have been three or four years earlier. There's no way. I wasn't ready. I literally I was going to say twenty one, and then my brain shifted to nineteen and I said twenty nine. I had to explain myself, okay, because you're eighty nine, that's right, old woman. I'm sick of not doing well.

You're sick, but you look young thank you, congratulations on that. That's the sickness. I felt like I by the end, I kind of let the whole like the whole like mold of like what they wanted to see if they kind of pervaded, which which which which felt weird. But I think there's like smarts to that too. I don't know. I think it's it can go either way, just you have to just commit to it. I remember the first time for me, it was like I did my own

thing and felt great about it. And then the second time I felt like I played the game too hard and felt like about it. And it's so it's but but either way, I think that people that go in with a plan and are strategic they can be successful. But also people that like go in there and say this is what I do, got damn Like those people are rad It's just a choice to do that because I think a lot of times it don't dang work out,

don't actually don't dang um. I do have to really quickly say that I cribbed from Ade Bryant syntax up top when I said, yes, I damn do, that's that's an adeism. And to put damn before a verb, that's that's that's what it is. And I wait, can I give a can I give my mother dann Bird update? Yes, she was texting me from the beach the other day. She's now in Florida. My parents go down there. There's snowbirds now and they have a condo. And she was on the beach with my aunt and my cousin who

recently went through a breakup. So they were at the beach. Christina. Yes, wow, you are literally sister life. Literally sister literally, sister life hashtag hashtag Actually larry such a life hashtag after those words. Actually, and my mom famously said, damn bird the last time checks me from a beach because at dan Bird came

over and took the sandwich. Yeah, we remember this, so she and we she knows that she's become popular on the podcast for dan Bird and so now and people will be in my in my d m s every time I posted a picture of Kristina and they'll say damn bird. And they noticed stylize it with two ms, which is the way that she spells down. So she says to me, she texts me, oh my god, I was like what she goes, literally, damn bird a bird

pooped on me. She can't go to the damn beach, the woman bird, the bird bird and return to the bird. Damn bird, damn bird. These damn birds actually won't stop. Damn bird. I am, I am he I stand seagulls. They're fucking you, stir wild because they don't think about

anything but themselves. Now, when Connor and I worked on a cruise ship sometimes yes, yes, proudly, but there used to be these seagulls that would come and basically like target children because they knew they were weak, and absolutely go hard to get their fries, like on the back of his boat. And I would say, our hearts were so sad for being a c for four months and doing bad improv that our only joy became watching like the seagulls eat children's fries. These birds, actually they're strong.

It's actually real culture. These birds are number one and three. These birds are strong. I needed a rule of culture. We haven't done that many. I'm sorry. You have to understand that we're just now getting back into the flow of hosting and we feel very How do you like our setup? I love this also, like I hope you think we're doing a good job and I hope the listeners like this. I think that I think that everyone is thinking this episode is actually going to win this time.

Ye did you hear they're doing a podcast like a big major awards show that's it should be illegal and it's a golden maybe for some time that there should be no Oscars, no Golden Globes, no Emmys. There should be one. There should be one. And they do TV and movies at the same time, and they take all the money and they give it to the people. It's getting dark. There's too many the critics too. Send the

Nickelodeon Awards. Well, really, what we need to get rid of as the Nickelodeon Awards because they're the most time, the most topic. It's actually it's actually Rusty six, the most toxic awards. It's getting to be inhumane to like make these people buy a new outfit for a new thing every week for about three months. They're wasting our time. Yes, And I'm not saying like us as people who attend. I'm saying like people who want like it's this is rude,

it's like stupid. First of all, I love some of these people that get awards so much, Like I love Laura Dern. You making me watch fifteen different Laura Dern Awards speeches doesn't make me like Laura Dernat honestly takes this person that I guess you the industry are trying to be like you like her, so pay, like give us your money, like watch her on programs. It's like, no, by over saturating these people, you drive us nuts. It's

you drive us cool crazy. And this might be like a weird afterthought, but like to make a damn to make a damn team of Carr's work an afterparty five different after parties in Los Angeles alone, every week from December to March. It's like, excuse me, it's just so's it puts such a strain on it, just for this like weird little industry that doesn't really matter in the end. And also I'm sorry, and I will take this to the streets. They've got to stop sending a screeners they have.

It actually needs to happen, Like I don't know what the rules are, but like they have to do this. It's crazy, Okay, the pale of marvelous Mrs Mazel's. They need to fucking check themselves. I don't think honestly, how fucking me a suitcase of DVT truly in order to get me to vote for them. And I will say this to Mazel's face to anyone is insane, literally literally

like the planet is dying. So everyone that doesn't know who everyone listening who doesn't get w g A screeners like the w g A like does the awards, and so Amazon being Amazon sent to I guess it was like a little makeup box, like big game pound box of disks. Yeah, and it had little extra stuff like a postcard from whatever Mazel had been and then little coasters which were cheap, and then you can actually use it as like a makeup box or like a little

lunch box. I guess. But it had to be every single one had to be made by like a child and ship and like and of course fucking Amazon is yeah, it's like there's no Hubris. And they also sent out a huge Modern Love box. Did you get that one? Now? I don't know. It was like a trap. It was like literally like a pirate's chest arrived at the greted Titleman house and I was like, I don't know what to do with this because I'm not watching Modern Love. It's so much waste. It's so much. It's so bad.

I mean because Connor and I are both we're doing double time and and we've now, I guess there's a way to opt out, and I think we've possibly figured it out. But it's like the fact that these are fucking going to people's like weird business manager's office is and then just going right into the trash. Yeah, it's bad. It makes me fucking craziest industry. It's actually it's actually most of the Texas sized plastic island is masal lunchboxes. S fucking dare you send me a suitcase? You know

what this is? It's for the elderly who are in the who are in the unions because they want to stick to DVD players and they don't know how to stream ship. That is literally nuts. I don't know. That's like, this's like what people berg on the View yelling at AOC because she doesn't respect her elders. It's like, it's because we all need to have a conversation, sweetie. That's actually good, we all are. When when was on the View, I texted her. I was like, yeah, to tell me everything.

It was. It was also I think I don't do this that they were like, you have to come back and guest host, and I was like, I will, absolutely wouldn't. There's nothing that makes me more panicked than hearing them all do their political takes and then them turning to me and maybe I'm like, oh, I think I would do that. It's also a Megan Became would be like the same, you have to do it. I think that one day in my life I will be on you. Yes you will, even if I have to be in

a damn chicken costume. Sometimes they do do that. They do be doing. It's called chicken of the week. Is that the chicken comes out, it doesn't dance. Um, is this real? With Joy? Honestly, I would have anything you said about the view or the Kelly Clarkson Show, because I just assumed that Kelly Clarkson Show is seconds away from having a chicken another week, Like we found this chicken actually in Arizona and this is an amazing chicken.

And they tweeted us, so here's the video and we're just a video of a chicken, like and she'd be like, I'm crying. That was so funny. Oh my god, I'm actually crying. And when we come back, it's gonna be a Reba And after the break, Reba would come out and she would say, I love that chicken. That was funny. I thought was funny too. I could literally do a whole sixteen minute Kelly Boxon show. Maybe I should do that as a live show, come out as Kelly and

just have guests. Rocks rock. Actually it's Ruler culture number forty nine, Reba Rocks. Thank you for joining. We always encourage, always encourage guests to join. We love one guests joint. Actually, yes, I think Doug's giving me a look. Well, Doug can keep looking. This is crazy. You actually can keep looking. I don't want this to add. I don't like the look. I don't like the look we have getting crazy. Well, so this actually it's actually okay, it's okay everyone and

the dude we're gonna do. I don't think so, honey, Now now you tell them what I don't think. So okay. Every week we take one moment to rail against one moment. I take one moment. She's not a fan. She thinks it's only a moment long fuck this. Oh my god, I'm actually mad and crying. Oh my god. We take against something in that is pissing us one moment, one moment. Okay, alright, so listen. Should I go first? I think you should go first. I have a couple of things, but I

think I'm gonna do the one of the things. You're gonna be one of the something that made sense to say, Okay, I'm ready. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey, And his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Sorry, girl, Charros, guess what you smell better than you taste? Motherfucker? How come arrows? When I taste you, I'm always mad because when I smelled it, it has that overwhelming Auntie and smell where you can't walk past it and not buy it.

And then I eat it and I'm a disappoint too. I don't think so, honey. Also, when you're hard, you're too hard. When you're soft, you're actually too soft. There's never been a time in the written word or the actual history where Churro has been the right consistency. And if there has been a time, no one's writing about it, honey, And you don't see it on the news because you

are what not actually good? Today I watched Sudie green By one of you at the Universal Studios, Hollywood, and you were five and you might as well be damned paper. I don't think so, honey. The price of you and the price of a churl. I'm willing to pay zero dollars, honey, because I don't think so. And that's one that's your best. Oh my god, I just disagree. I actually find and I well, you haven't had a sweetie fun fun fun. Actually, if you want to really throw down, we actually could

about best snacks at Disney. No. I mean I don't want to do that, don't. I don't want you on Disney or any kind you're not trying to like spar. I do want to spar. She wants to spark. You know. Here's the thing. Have you been to Disney World World? No Land, because I'm Land. You can make the drive. Yeah, well there's lots of great stuff. Anyway to think about it now, I gotta say Matt is kind of moving

away from the World camp. He's not thinking a fan of World as he used Well, but when and I recently went to Disneyland, and it's just it's so much easier because you don't much like a damn plane to get from Epcot to Magic Kingdom. I know, yeah, it's crazy. I also think there's some of the like sixties charms. It's still there. The weakness isn't quite I don't know. I've never been to the land, but that's what I

like about. Yeah, it's it's the it's the um wow, this is so um smallness of the of the like castle, this massive thing where you're like, okay, capitalism, yeah when oh yeah, the way you just that was slid that in contemn California Adventure Eat Ship and you kind of like missed the mic and we're like, you were scared to commit to it because you're actually trying to spar is the thing you actually came to spar tonight, And um, actually I really enjoy a California Adventure and you know

who else enjoyed it, Bowing. I enjoyed it very much and Credi coaster popped off, popped all right, So actually this is Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey. And the thing about his time as it starts now, I don't think so, honey, magician. Don't you ever pull shit behind from behind my ear without asking me for her mission. I'm not going to equate it to like a thing that requires consent, But this is a thing where they

everyone comes up to. These magicians come up to you have no regard for your boundaries, darling, and they start to like wave a little hands and fingers next to your hip or something, and then knives come out. It's so stupid. And the TikTok magicians are the worst. And TikTok magicians who will take a glass of water and

put into it and it's revealed to be a cake. Yeah, I cannot It's it's crazy, and it feels like it feels like a form of gas lining because it's like you're, you know, you're you're distorting my sense of reality here by like fucking up my brain. And this is this is what you do. It's it's you barter in deceit and deceit. It's actually real culture number ninety six magicians barter in that deceit and it's they knowingly do it. That's what's really fucked up is it's they do it

for money. It's magic is premeditated lies and deceit for money, and it's actually really culture number one. Magic is premeditated lies. And deceit for money, cash, important cash money. They actually can't you know, it's it's they're fucked up because they take cash cash so they don't get taxed. They're an incredibly disgusting people, magicians. And you know who their king is is that Neil Patrick Harris bitch, he's the king

of magic. Magic, No, no, one of the one of the celebrities we've dragged the hardest on this podcast is Patrick Harris. Well, I don't know, is that true. Yeah, we dragged him. I think we dragged him because he one time tweeted during the Tony Awards at Rachel Bloom, who is this all they have hosting backstage? She's not fun like something like that. And that is the Golden Globe without Rachel Blue. Yeah, and here's the thing. Um. One one person who I don't think is a magician

and so we do trust her is eighth. No. Wait, let me let me think here, Okay, because I feel like I have zones and I'm I'm I'm scared. I'm just gonna see what happens. Just no, this is not premedity. Let it flow, honey. Okay, I'm going to talk loudly, and that's what it is. Sometimes I find myself on stage in front of a crowd and I'm like, oh, this is happening and it's an honey, And often they're all right, so this is eighty Bryant's I don't think so, honey.

On this episode of last called Beeping Later and our time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Diarrhea. You've got your hands around my throat and you're killing me. It needs you to stop. I find not figure out what is causing you. Is it cheese? Is it like pepper? I'm so scared and I don't know what to do, and I've been to the doctors and they cannot help. And it's not all the time. But when you come, you come in hard. I'm mad and I'm so tired. What I wouldn't give to have a nice, solid cock

like Ships said. What I get is a bag of loose sand covered in eels and slim. Why, why God have you done this to me? I am scared. I am scared. You are a bad element of my life, and I need you to get out out out damn spot. I am absolutely tired, and so I guess I don't think so. Diary I'm not wondering what I wouldn't give. Let let's just break down what happened. Well, I have a lot of questions. First of all, we had a Shakespeare reference, and then we had is it cheese? Is

it pepper? Is it cheese? Is a pepper? One of It's like, that's always what it could come down to. Is it most commonly cheese or pepper? I thought that was a mass I have. I have to ask you a question because there was. I want to be clear. I'm not having diarrhea everything I want, and I am most of the time, but when it comes, it comes like a fucking gun to tame. Yes, a question. I need to ask you a question. I was experiencing poop like this that one would call diarrhea. Yeah, and I'll

tell you why it was. I had been overdiagnosed with antibiotics, have been I've been not a pill. Yeah, it's it's I don't know what it is, and I do think it's probably just like dairy. But sorry, I'm not about to stop. Yeah, it's actually one of the hardest things to give up, is cheese. Honey? Is it stress? Because for me sometimes comes down to stress. I do recall it as I was auditioning for usnel it was actually liquid. Hell oh no, and then you have to be thinking

about that. Yeah, And then I was like also like I was like, I can only eat like nuts and bananas because anything is going to trigger this be whole. Yeah, but but then like I don't know, it goes away, but then it just comes back before you've even settled into the normal soliditis. I can't draw the boundaries between on the dates anymore for when I poop solid or when I poop liquid. Wow, that's too much. It's too much.

I gotta see someone. The doctors can't help me. Well that this is the thing is that it's not it's I don't want people to feel scared for me, And the last thing I want is fucking stranger's messaging me being like I can actually cure you. No, don't do that. Well, that's fine, Unfortunately you while explicitly not asking for that,

I have unfortunately, and you've opened the flood gates. I would also say that's maybe the worst part of sometimes having to get your hair and makeup done is they often are like, you know, you have rosa sho and that means you have a lizard disease, and you need to get a shot every day in your eye. And I can actually help you if you'll follow me on Instagram and tag me. And I'm always like, holy hell, have you heard of a rock diet? Well, I eat rocks,

It rocks. If to get a shot every day in your eyes, you actually have to get a shot every day in your eye that only I could start. It's a really big eye size needle. It looks like a hammer, but it's a needle and I have to come over and use it. What it takes to be industry. Here's the thing. If anyone ever told me they would they were a producer, I would let them spit on me. I left so hard my headphones. All you have to do is tell me that you're a producer, and I

want to ask you if it's film, television, music. I'll be like, yeah, you could come and post spit. You could be putting your clothes back on, because I assume you want to get naked before you spit on me. You can tell me after why, by the way, well, I produce ship and then get out and I'd be like, hot, honestly, is this a bad episode? I'm scared, guess because I just love the show and so when I listen, I'm like so happy and of course inserting myself into it

is bad. No, that sucks, and that actually actually sucks. And actually you actually insulted us. You insulted us. It was good. Please tag me if you do. That's good. It would mean a lot to me. I need about Can I say something though, answer? Yeah, okay, then I

will say something. Um. I feel like my energy towards you coming on the podcast was like, well, this will be one of like like I would assume that you by the time this podcast wraps and like, let's say, will have like one of those Letterman's jacket they give to Drew Barrymore and everyone else that's hosted five times.

See now I think of myself and pretend actually is like your Amy Sitters David Letterman situation where I like, come by and I'm like, I'm not promoting anything right now since she's long since been out, but I'm here to have fun with my guy. Yeah. Absolutely, And that's how I feel. I was thinking about you as an Amy it's Amy on Letterman and sorry to bring work into this. I feel like it's you on seth and Sumplement.

It's just hear me out, Tom Hanks on s to It's like someone that you're just like, yes, yes, it'll be good. Just calm, just come calm. I guess what we're saying is that you can come back any damny damn time. Well you really have been rushing me off, especially Dug out there. Well, Doug, actually the thing is like he thought he was the only one with a weapon and I have a very large weapon. We're maxing

out o'clock minutes. Yeah, but it's not like this isn't a normal I know, I know, I know, but I've been getting multiple text from Connor being like where are you? We gotta go, Okay, we got get around. Tell Connor that relationships are not everything stops I do every day. Okay, this is this was an episode of Datie Bryant. Please watch Shrill, watch us now, please. It sounded like you were begging, please God watch Trill because it's a great fucking show and it's made with love. And I'm on it,

like what what do you do you want? What do you want? Bears is on it. I also watch Shrill because and this is gross and whatever, but um, you know my Wikipedia says that I was on Shrill and I'm like, no, boot stop it. Oh documentary, this is unreal. Oh yeah, oh yes. What you don't know is that this this is the beginning of a documentary. It's called a Miss Americans. Did you guys talk about Yes we did. If we did, she has to go to dinner. She

has dinner at Ostereo Lebucastere Leuca. You know. So here's actually one other thing about the podcast is it always ends with a song who one day, one night, Saturdays, all right online just by night time anytime, get me National American. That was like a remix nash up. Yeah bye,