"Lemonade" (w/ Janie Stolar)

who's in the now. She lives it. She breathes that. She cooks it up for dinner. Yes, she cooks it up, and you eat it up. You eat it up, You eat what you're eating, what she's serving. Honey. Let me tell you right now, let me tell you a little bit about this lady. All right. She's on the Herald Team Sleuth. She's one of the new Stacked Team. I think, yes,

absolutely great team. One of the hosts of one of my favorite shows, The Female Gaze seb and one of the hosts of one of my favorite podcasts, The Waiting Game. The Waiting Game with Jesse Gali, and her name is Janie stillar Hello, we love This is a huge moment for me and Janie because Janie and I historically we meant on a podcast. It was will ENNI um that we all hoped for it. Honestly, your pot by the way, I love it than we really are big fans of yours,

and I want new episodes. Come on, people, Jake the myth Smith Shake the Myth. Let's live up to that name. Logical. Okay, yes, you gotta check this this podcast out, guys, and you're going to demand new episodes too. You've got you've got great comics and they're telling their life stories and it's really really very interesting and Janie asks very uh stimulating, construsive, incisive questions. Yes, I like it and I felt what

I'm saying. What I say about the show is it really you get to hear them really talk, like Mike Helton tells this unbelievable story, like a rock bottom story, and it's so good. I mean, refer to the podcast. It's so good. I love and um yeah, actually I would have it no other way that you guys met out a podcast and we were talking about Tina Fe and RuPaul, both of your like icon icons and you

know what. Janey has recently put out her Q two brand outlook, which okay, let's hear it, which included such elements such people figures as RuPaul Beyonce, which we'll get to in a minute, won't we jooty hops from utopia feminist icon of our time. I haven't seen it yet. It's transcendence, yes, in a great in a great way. Um. We also dw a classic feminist hero even we knew what we were processing as youth. Who else is on that? I mean, I always have nine Christina Aguilera, like there's

always going to be that space. Absolutely, the Christina aguilar that left like this ha ha, yes, um. We have a lot of producers on this spectard. Honestly, I think all of our listeners no exactly what I'm talking about. That's my essential self. I believe nine Christina aguilar A, fresh out of the gate, like being like really shady but like not knowing our true powers. That's my That's the perfect compliment in my essence, which is seven Britney

Spears who always met Um. It's really cool, like she says, really cool, really cool. It's really cool, really cool. It's like a little bit dead inside, just like, yeah, it's it's already. You can tell it's it's going that. What's going on? So this is actually a great segue because we like to ask our guests, Um, what is the culture that you feel is shaped So as a as a young Jane, maybe even as a young Jane, it

was Janie. It was Janie always, it was Jane. When I worked in advertising, I had my corporate moment because you're born naked and the rest is drag. That was me and drag serving you working girl. The culture? The culture that what? What was the culture that you can remember like as a child or as a teen or as a young teen that made you say, like, I'm interested in culture cultures for me? I mean it's always been TV for me, Like if I had to name my one love, uh, you know, it would be TV.

And I think it's always been somewhat unscripted like talk shows and reality show. Okay, So I remember watching um Oprah when I was way too young to know what the downlow was, but getting all my information there too. She had a download episode and it was phenomenal. It really made me realize to trust nobody, you know, you know what's funny. When you just said Oprah had a download episode, I was like, that feels more Tyras brand Tira had. I think she could make it about her.

She would be like, I'm going undercover on the town low and then I'm going to cry to people who are on the download about my experience and why am I crying to you, which is what she said when she wore a fat suit and then fat people flanking her and she cried, this is so incredibly hard, and take it off at the end and she's like, and now I'm back to me. Tyra is incredible. Yeah, but like remember when she won an Emmy for that show

that she's like a daytime. I will never forget the episode where she pretended to have rabies and she she walks out on stage while everyone's applauding, and she's like, hey, guys, I'm sorry, I'm not feeling very good. I was running in my neighborhood and a dog bit me and it was, oh my god. Absolutely, and then she walks over to her guests, who are just for some means an artist,

without introducing them. She just walks over. Well, she drinks the bottle of water first that has like I'm assuming phone like something that would phone some toxin some tops, because you know she was committing to it, and then she just pretended to go into a rabid like fucking shock and freaked out. And it was she barked at the camera and she started barking at her audience. And because you become a dog, yeah, I mean truly like she's also, people who aren't that smart think that pranks

are jokes. They think that, like they love April fool. Yeah, you're like, I'm going to scare and upsets and confuse someone instead of making them laugh. I do love, I will say, I do love. Just move and then she immediately turns around and loses all the weight. Let's stand on that platform for half a millisecond along with Jennifer of Hewett, another betrayer to our people, and just go right back down to the size zero. Thank you for

that moment when you spoke up. I also just I mean, anyone that says the line, it's interesting because Mallory was wearing the scarf, but the scarf or whatever I was like this is and the fact that you knew exactly what she was saying, and honestly, it really was such a precursor to rue. There's no and therefore we must be thankful. You have to be thankful. And I also brought like I watched all the shows, like remember Project Runway came out and I was on board with that.

In Real World, I was watching from the beginning. All the shows are just thank you so much, Reality TV. I mean, so you were a big Real World fan? Oh yeah, huge? So what would you say is the best season of Real World? Okay, I gotta go with Hawaii because for me, like it really shook me and um excited me and showed me that there's more in

the world. So I loved Hawaii. But I mean, actually, the only one that really sticks out for me is Las Vegas with Bran with Brand and Stephen, and I remember just thinking all the guys were like so hot. I remember I was right which one did one? Um, maybe I'm mixing up the seasons, but there was when they got in a relationship with with one of them, and the whole thing, the backstory that they weren't saying was he had done porn before a porn I think

that was Stephen in Trachelle. Honestly, that would make a lot of sense to me, he has a perfect gay porn look. He's very attractive. I mean he is like he had like the frosted tips like six years too late, you know what I mean. Like it's like that was very and they put that hot tip right in the middle of that apartment and they went for it. I mean the setups of the apartments, it's like it's like you can look over here, you can look over here, you can get really drunk here, you can. It's just

like how drunk they get them. And also, I don't you don't still watch it? Right? I tried to watch this season. It's so bad. Where are they anywhere? Where cities are they? When I saw they dropped them in the desert and they had like fight their way to the house and they became survivor. Yes, but I will say quickly at Explode Real World Skeletons was really good.

They had a house in Chicago and they would bring in people from these people's past who they didn't know we're coming, and it was just explosive fights and people's like long lost fathers came and it just really was And I was like, where did they sleep? They didn't have enough beds for that extra person. So it raised so many questions in my head. Did you watch the Challenge? I watched it and then I fell off because I don't know who these people are. Well, I mean like

in the Heyday, did you watch the Okay? So that to me was like that hit exactly the perfect time that I think MTV was like hitting their demographic because I was literally just like sixteen seventeen years old, just like bored on the weekend watching that show and just being a young man. Will say that it was so

that everyone was so hot. They stacked those casts with just the hottest people ever, and they were just so angry and fighting and yelling and screaming and like this is what it means to be an adult, which is crazy. And they were just so hot. It was the hottest, greous, most fucked up people, and you were like, this is the future. Yeah, that's what was the challenge. It's like the world rules real world, real world and road world

rules people. And then they have different delineations liked be boys for girls or like new school vers old school, and now they have these people that at one point where just like voted on and so if you watch now, it's a bunch of randos. What is it called the Inferno? Yeah, and then it's like they fight in these challenges, but there's no backstory that I'm committed to. They've been on multiple so these are just people that are now challenged stars.

I now feel like I see the same people on all these shows, Like remember Mike them Is, Yes, he the Coral, Johnny Bananas Choral? Yes, um, what's his name? Oh? The oh Man. I literally can only describe them as physical attributes. I literally thought of c T as a guy with the butt was like one of them. Theo is a comedian now and his specials on Netflix, and it's not appropriate. He's a prank or if you know what I mean, not fun. We we've already established how

Jenny feels about pranks. Don't not like pranks, you guys, I didn't grow up with cables, so I never watched you didn't grow up with cable. Yes, I have a whole blind spot in my culture. Are there things that

you caught up with? Yes? Absolutely, Like especially when Flavor of Love and I love New York and I mean score in the eight Day, like I was going to going on business trips with my f was tagging along with my dad on business trips and just staying in the hotel like in the summer, and they would just play as marathons on VH one, and I would just get caught up on the entire season in one sitting. We should say, there's a staging of that episode of Sins Mom, Terry, Oh my god, I mean born to

play you play tell us exactly. So this is Thursday, April twenty eight to me, and it's a live staging of of UM A flavor of live episode where Pumpkins spits in New York Story. It's very silly. There's like a comedian and stuff, and I'm really excited for it. Who was playing New York UM? I don't even remember. Well, they have here's here's how they're doing it. They have which I think is very smart. They have two people playing this person, one person for your confessionals, one person

for the actual Okay, that's great. I love a show that you both are involved in. Broad games. A live version of Sex and City, which I was thinking of when you said you didn't grow up with cable because you understand sex in the City and that's like you inherently understand the funniness and the silliness and the heart of it. We got DVDs and so I got caught up through just you know, I was I was lacking behind, but then I caught up on my culture. Did you catch up on sex in the City in high school,

like like like early high school? Like my friends had the DVDs and we would just sleep over. I would sleep over at her place and then we would just watch all of it. Yeah. Um, but yes, did not grow up with culture on cable. But number I think culture it's on cable. Culture on cable, and I think I think you need it. And actually I think for our Merge giveaway, if we're gonna call, you're gonna call in and we're gonna give you cable call in and give and we'll buy We'll buy your cable plan for No,

we didn't, but that's fine. Yeah, but so can I ask you? Were you a Survivor fan, because I feel like Survivor was like the first Yeah, I was totally on board. I wasn't in love with Elizabeth then Fuller. This must have been huge for you to watch her career. Unbelievable. I mean, she was America's sweetheart, right, So funny. Remember she was like a Puma shoe as she was a Puma shoe designer, that is correct. She went to school

in Boston. We love college. So she was just so sweet and like strong, and we really liked her because she wasn't talking about politics exactly. She really was just like very earnest, like very did you watch it? Alright? She was. She ended up coming in fourth place, and she was the last person from her tribe, which I actually remember was the coucha tribe to make it to

the end. And literally it was this thing of even the people that we had the alliance against or didn't really want to vote her off, they were like, I'm sorry, you have to go because we have to make sure that we win, but God bless, we love you. And then she actually stayed in leisticon enough to like become what we now know is Elizabeth's has America's Demon. She's

the worst. I mean, she's the worst I know, But I did, okay, I did like her on the view because she prerovided a somewhat complex contrarian opinion to the liberals on the panel. And then then they just throw on these idiots now and it's like what We talked about this last year the same which was like they just got rid of any sort of intelligent discourse on

the show. But who is that? Who is that Republican that they brought that conservative that they brought on during the reb Great, she was great, but now she's on MSNBC every now and then, and I just wanted to stop talking. Well, I actually find her to be like a really really smart, reliable source, and I actually think she she's very clearly conservative, but I think she provides like helpful input and helpful analysis, and I just wish that they would have let that be more what she

did on the view. But you could tell they kind of gave her these I guess you have to be able to talk about everything, I guess, But no, I think that's what I agree with what Janie saying, which is Elizabeth Hasselbeck was someone who was you didn't agree with her ever, but you she was so compelling. Yeah, she was compelling, very very good presence and a good anchor for that panel. She definitely is a star, that's

for sure. I mean in terms of her personality, like she was since Survivor, like you loved her, and then when it when it came out that she like believed what she believed. I was disappointed, but like I got the sense most of the time when she was on the View, which by the way, I mean, I'm sure, like were you a huge fan of the View? So when it was the two election, that was the was the show that I got from my ellection coverage watched.

I watched the View like I would come home from my classes because at NYU, I had like a schedule it was like eight am to five am, and I would run back to campus and flip on the View and like a Dunkin Donuts bagel, and I would listen to see what was up with the election that need And honestly, you had like Elizabeth Hasselbeck like repping John

McCain and Sherry Shepard undecided. That's insane, insane. And then I remember the day after the election, after Oma was elected, she was like I got in the booth and I had to do it, and I had to turn to my son and say no limitations, and I'm like, yeah, I Meanry definite. Sherry she claimed to be undecided all the way up and both she was undecided. Well, she also thought the world she didn't think the world was flat and like honestly honest mistake, Sherry, do you I

don't know I would have to feed my children. Yes, unforgettable. I think I had to feed my children. That's unforgettable. That's classic television and not on cable. Not don't judge me, I'm not judging. Will say that when we were growing up, cable wasn't as important because those things that I got were not on cable. Oh I agree, I agree. Yeah, I was actually contrary an opinion. I thought that everything was on cable a little bit. Well, like I was

like like Nickelodeon and all that ship when I was little. See, I don't know when anyone brings up sucking like all that. All that I barely watched. I remember watching The Manager for the first time in a friend's house and me being like, who is that girl? She has my life? Like I want that life. I know she was great A lot I read a lot that reads thinks mat um, and then I waste of time. Wasted time truly did

not enrich anything. But then I what was I gonna say? Oh, but I feel like my so what substituted what filled that hole for me was simple life. It was obsessed with Simple God. I love that wasn't on cable, but it was such good reality. I feel like in the editing now and it's insane. It's like every scene is like fifty sound effects. It's so over. That's funny. But at the time we were like yes, and like Newly Weeds was the same. There's crazy editing in these shows.

I really liked Newly Webs And can I tell you which one I really liked was the Ashley Simpsons show. In fact, I was a full I saw her twice in concert. I like, oh, you liked her? Oh I liked her. I didn't know that about you. Oh. I was a big fan, like huge, Like I wrote a paper in high school after after she was on SNL about how we need because I had seen her in concert and she's sang live in concert like you're her Chris Procker. Alright, so this is this is a little bit.

This is so funny. So recently recently I did and this is like eight months ago. I did the Rose in fifteen year old self. Have you guys both done all you must? It's such a fun shows And I wanted to get this picture that I took at the Ashley Simpson concert because Jessica Simpson was there and I got a picture with Joe Simpson. It's me and Joe Simpson, their gay father, their gay dad, and it's too good.

Now I have a photo with me in a track jacket at the end, I spiked hair with highlights at the Ashley Simpson concert and Joe Simpson has his arm around me. How old are you? I was sixteen, fifteen sixteen. Because this is like height of like like rock pop. It was like all the biggest pop stars were like Kelly Clarkson, Um actually Simpson, Avril Levine. It was like when the Lindsay Lohan had a record in Charlotte was rock and the whole kind of thing that was when

it wasn't about dance, it was about guitars. On before After You Loved a r This is this is like like months before everything happens traumatic concert. Let me tell you that it almost did. It almost did happen to concert. I mean, I mean, who knows, but like, honestly, that picture would have been so good to show at the bed. My roast and my ex girlfriend from high school is the only one I could get the picture through because it was on someone's oh photo accounts, which let that

take you back. I didn't even it was like the way you shared pictures because because Facebook wasn't a thing, and there was no and there was like nothing, and I was like and I literally felt like such an idiot. I was like, does anyone know the photo password? They were like no. I was like, all right, well, this Joe Simpson picture is gonna is just gonna live in the ether somewhere. But it was out there. Know what a shame it just existed in that period of years

where it was like you didn't you didn't. There were no hard copy pictures. But also Facebook wasn't keeping tracking everything, so that one's just gone. But what a good pure picture you did draw it my memory, I'm sure it's enough memory, oh man. But knowing how gay he became, Yeah, well, Matt, you've joked about going Nashurally Simpson concerto. I didn't know this was actually your reality. I've written this like beaten discussions. Two tours she had like more than she had, like

several tours. Wow, let me So this is I went to see Ashley Simpson post the SNL thing, which I was watching her. I was watching Live On with SNL. Yeah, in college on a Saturday, by the way, just so we're clear on what I was doing, Yeah, I mean I was. I was fully at home on a Saturday to listening watching to it, and I was like, um,

what just happened. It wasn't clear what had happened. Um, But I remember like the next day the Scandal came at and when she came out at the end of the show with Jude Law and was like, my band started playing the wrong song. I did adown, so we did a holddown and I was like, oh, she's so funny.

And then like the next night everyone was like lip sync scandal and like that I can't be And then when remember when she did the Orange Bowl and the whole stadium boom that she got it rough and I did see her in concert not once but twice after that. Can someone like that live comfortably off residuals? Like is she okay? You think? Well, let me tell you. I saw her years later at a bar that I worked at. Yeah, this is like in two thousand, I guess she doesn't

thirteen or something like a couple of years ago. I worked at this bar in the Financial District and she stumbled in like so drunk, and she already been like a mom at this point, I had gone through her divorce with the guy from fall Out Boy Pete wentz and yeah, she didn't look good. And then she went in the bathroom for like an hour, which we can guess what might have happened. But she was like, I was like, I used to pay does that you in concert? I used to love you, and now you're watching her.

And now I'm watching her like like like two o'clock in a bar in the Financial district, like fall over herself. I'm like not know how to get to the bathroom. It was really awful. Yeah, but I mean, I hope she's okay. The family is such a mess. Who knew that would become with that family, Jessica. The family was on a red carpet like within the past year, just totally hammered, and it was funny, but it was it was a little worried something. It was like, oh, maybe

maybe things aren't going well. But there was a time when she remember when she was like j Lo level. It was a time when she was a mo gul And now I guess she still has like she was millions and millions of dollars. You know, my mom is a hairdresser, and she says that the Jessica Simpson hair

extensions are the best in the biz. Well, there you go, Megan Kelly uses him, I said, I said, when all the Trump and Megan Kelly ship was going on, I'm like, I'm sorry, the star of the show was not either than it was the Megan Kelly Jessica assumption hair extensions. Am I right, that's right. She looks good. She looked she looked good, and that's what's important. I get it. I was on I was on Megan Kelly's side, which like sure, but like I guess, like in that situation,

like what good side was there to be on? But like Megan Kelly didn't do anything wrong. Sure, Well now they're they're they're good old pals. They are they the hat she's interviewing him very very soon, and it's supposed to be very cordial and loose or whatever. And I love it and everything. But you talked about the pop culture of the past, and you're like, oh, what a fun time we had. It was so fun, and now it's like it's like the culture that's like shaking the world.

Right now is Beyonce Lemonade, And it's like, is it fun? No, it's our It's like it's I wouldn't describe it as fun. I would describe it as actually just at least scary. Yeah, we're not really going back anytime soon. I feel. No,

I don't think at some point, not right now. I think right now we're in a nightmare pop. I actually had to cover my eyes a few times during Lemonade that something was going We'll talk about that long scene where they're going down into the basement and I was like, what is this and like, I don't know, Like she'll just randomly cut to like a shot of like some chains hanging from then. I thought it was very scary. It was reminding me of the Ring. I was like,

this is terrifying. But yeah, we'll get to Lemonade because this episode is about Lemonade. But I did we have to we must touch on drag Race. We'll talk about Okay, so Jennie is an episode behind, so I guess we're I guess we're going to break some news to you so you get a live reaction on air. It was it was a ninety minute long episode. Yeah, it was the challenge was the yearly balls that they have, so last season it wasn't technically a ball, but was the

hell Katie Challenge. They to do two looks to a voice over that described their character, and this season before that it was the Glitter Ball and then it was the Sugar So anyway, so this season's was the book

Ball in honor of guest judge David Sedaris. The Amydarris was the other guest judge, and to pay homage to her, they had to stage like a lip sync number two a Jerry Blank inspired well Amy Sadaris just sang a new original song about and they were all addressed as Jerry Blank and like did a dance number and it was it was, it was for us, it was And

I said, you put up at that. I was like, hi, just so you know anyone that can't get on board with drag grace that they did a Strangers with a Candy Jenny Blank dance, So congratulations on missing out on the best television job. Yeah, I was. We were at a bar with Josh Sharpe and when they broke when when RuPaul on the show broke that to the girl, she was like, and you'll have to do a choreographed

lipstick number two A Strangers at the Candy. They were like the whole mom step in the air and then Josh Sharp texted me today he goes, I will never experience the joy of it was cathartic, will be the Strangers with Candy challenge, right. But anyway, so how it went down was they to do the bookball and they had to do the first look, which was baby drag reel. In this, I had to tell a story. So like the first one, they kind of came at is like baby versions of themselves and it was like narrated as

if it was a book. And then the second one was, um, that's my mom and they had to pay homage to their own mother's and then the third one was um autobiographical extra Yeah, it was like and then like you come out and he had he had to use all books to make her outfit. Kim she yea and it was all like RuPaul's books. Of course, like the whole time, like when they were interviewing the judges, they were like the author of this, David was feature. But anyway, Kim

she one because she's just like such an artist. And there was an all her looks yea, and she was the only want to do that. All those queens like, that's the person I trust to make a dress one of those interesting looks like that. Naomi Smallest looked amazing on the runway, just turned it out. Her that's my

mama look was amazing. And Bob had been giving the challenge to go ultra glam and I think during the construction of his dress it fell apart, and so he had to go out with a short dress, and so he was in the bottom two with Derek who tried to like dot peplum corset. Oh yeah, and then all the girls tell you as a woman, peplum is never a good choice. There you go. And then all the girls were like, you need to block your eyebrows, you need to change your eyebrows because that's just making you

look like Brittany no matter what. And Derek was like, okay, fine, but I don't know how to do that right, And so they were trying to give her all these tips, but then she ended up looking in saying horrible, and then her her drag looks for the running weren't even didn't even make sense for her that for her baby drag we illness. She came out dressed as Ariel, like that's not a baby, and then it was so clear, and then the lip sync was between Bob and Derek

and thank you. I know Derek was coasting, but then there was like an emotional moment at the end where Bob turns to Derek and was like, I respect this person. Bob has been such a star this whole time, Like really every single challenge proven what kind of star. And so you said before we got to the air that you kind of you're very disenchanted with the show because Thorgy is gone. Yeah, I love Thorgy. I just like when I saw Derek's Day and Thorgy leave, I was upset.

I know that that was not a great episode for for Thorgy, and like I get it, I get it. You know. You know what, if Thorgie had stayed on for this challenge, it would have been very intense for her to do her her mother. Her mother passed away, so that would have been Honestly, I bet the producers were kind of banking on some of that because they

always do that. They have like one part that's emotional in the episode, it's oh yeah, I mean, everyone got a sob story that there were several there were several instanes in the stories are always so incredible on that show. I mean, this one was exceptional. Naomi has a great moment, Bob. Bob has a great moment, which never see that. I can't wait to watch it. It's been a great season. I don't mean to do so. I just when it was up, and then I've been I have to watch

them online. And then it was up to like, you know, two am, and I'm like, well, I'll wait out. But great episode and the top four for people of color wonderful, all really different, all very different. Yeah, that's so. I think it's a true toss up. Like I obviously have my allegiances to Bob, but what I was saying today was I would be kind of thrilled to see him. Yeah, I love them all. They're all great. I think Kim

is like so set. I think Kim is like set for life, and I really think Bob is set for life. I think cheech winning would like change her whole life, and I therefore I might be pulling for her just because I know that Bob and camer are fine. It's like a true earned underdog narrative where it's like, no, like, you have grown so much, you deserved this. You you, you've exceeded everyone's expectations of you, like you deserved this.

Well anyway, speaking of us deserving, Oh my god, let me tell you, um, where were you when I was at a show at the Annoyance Theater and then immediately when it got out, I ran to Vanessa's dumplings, got a to go order, took an uber home. He did not stay to eat the dump did not say. I pulled out my end. Reception at Vanessa's was not good, and I kept trying to download my HBO now app, kept trying to log in mobile using your data on mobile use? Oh my god, what sacrifices. I made sacrifices.

So then i'm When I got in the car, I finally loaded it up, and I watched about half of it in the car, not half of it, like twenty minutes of it in the car, got out, ran up to my apartment. My roommate was using the TV. I said, Mike, I have to watch this. It's really important that I watched this, and he understood, he obliged, and then I watched the whole thing. He watched parts of it with me and he left and then he left to go

to his girlfriend's house. But I was and I filled him and I was like, well, so far the narrative is that she's been you know, jay Z has cheated on her, and he was like wow, And so then we watched and then right at the point where she's sort of starting to forgive him was when my roommate was like, m hmmm, it kind of takes the bite out of the message of of well, fuck you for cheating on me if you're going back to him, and I was like no, I like, Mike, don't don't say

that yet, Like, let's just like, let me just finish this. And then by the end of it, I had so many conflicting emotions. That was where I was, what about you? Well, funnily enough, I was UM at a Tanya Harding Nancy Carragin museum dedicated to the Olsen twins at this point, doing candle lighting ceremony channeling UM show them claimed to bring back her past lives. So everyone was doing culture. Wait,

the guy who runs that, Matt Harkins. Matt Harkins his like because her sister in law works in my office and she's very sweet, but she will not stop talking about the herding. So if you're listening to the spot in the next week and a half, it's in Brooklyn. It's phenomenal and it's now just for yes, so that stuff still exists, but it was in their hallway and their apartment and so now this they've rented out a

really crappy pediatric medical center. Makes it so funny because you go in and it's like a museum with gorgeous art. This woman, I think her name is Laura Collins. She paints the Olsen Twins Lisa vander Pump like these stars covering their faces and they're gorgeous paintings and they go for like nine dred bucks and people are buying them like they're actually running an art gallery right now, and

there's installations and they're the funniest. So they go through and they show you and they're such charismatic, wonderful people. So it's a great experience. Um and they're not doing it for money, like they're just taking dollar donations if you have it, but it's all about just wine to make it. It's really fun. Anyway, So I was there, they had me do like a candle lighting ceremony to like rid the place of haters and toxins and so forth.

And we watched Sholem mcclaimed videos in the dark and you were I was doing art was just like the three of that, Like there was like no one there. So then when I knew Lemonade was coming, I was like, I have to go home, Like I'm here and I'm like in the moment, So what I do. I went home and I found out that my roommate was having people over. It was very loud, that was drinking, and so I was trying to watch Lemonade and it was

just like not right. And then when they left, I sat down and I watched it, and um, I feel like I was a little bit shaken. And I was also the text had already come in with like this stuff, so it was I was already my perceptions were shaped before You're you're You're You're sad about that a little bit. I kind of think. I love the way that it felt like a tune in experience, which we don't have that much anymore, and like all of our friends were going to be watching at the same time and talking

about it and we were gonna share it. So I was like a little sad that I hadn't delay and a little sad that people experienced before me and like already kind of like telling me I feel a little bit. Not not anyone's fault, but it was my fault because I had planned the I mean, I had to do the candle. There's no true there's no true appointment television anymore. It's true. But anyway, well, I literally cleared the night.

I was like, we're going to do this because I just remembered what Beyonce the album was to me, and I'm like the fact that this could potentially be happening again, as like this could be like the music that satiates me for like like let's do it and let me tell you. I within within fifteen seconds, I knew this is this was good. That like amazing, Um first verse of Pray You Catch Me, which like goes on so long and like doesn't necessarily have like a repetitive like pattern.

I was like, this is amazing. Henry. I was like I turned to him, I was like, is this amazing. He's like, yeah, this is amazing, and like every song was so good and when it became clear that it

was about that. I mean, I thought she surprised us so many times, but this was culture a little bit if we want to wait to get into it, but I want to just like, there are the truthers who believe that this is all pr that he didn't even maybe he didn't even cheat, or that this was all a constructed story, and that he's the proof being one that he's making money off title, so this whole thing is about him and how bad he is, and then you go download the album on his service and he

makes money. And then the other thing being that, like it just was so perfectly crafted that and then she forgives him in the like, is that all constructed? I think that there's a lot of assumptions about the timeline of of when she went through this. I think it's possible that she could have gone through this years ago, you know what I mean. She might not have known how to talk about something like this until much later. We don't know if he cheated on her in two

thousand six or two fourteen. We don't know if it's related to the Solange punching incidentally, right, and like who knows anything. We don't know, But the thing is like in regards to whether or not she actually went through it or whether or not, it's it's her actual experience. Here's my perspective on it. We're like making that important?

Why is that important? The art that she made or whoever was a part of making it, it's incredible, And like they we didn't need to have used to justify, Like we didn't need to know what Janice Joplin went through to to get what I mean, Like, I just it's this thing now where because someone's a celebrity, which if you're going to put out music, movies, beyond television, whatever, you're going to be a celebrity. It's like, because that's true, we have to like this has to be fact. Yeah,

why does there have to be a purity test? Or like why does it have to like there's authenticity is such as stupid irrelevant concept when it comes to something like this, Like it's I I think, I mean, if we're talking about it, whether or not it's autobiographical, I think it's still so good and it's still so true to I don't know, like that that journey of like

forgiveness or whatever. And some people say that it's equally about Tina Knowles, about how Beyonce's father and just what she's seeing big picture, like the whole history of experience being a black one in America, and it's not just about her, and in the end, it's much bigger picture. So maybe it doesn't matter, like you guys are saying, if it's strictly true or biographical, it could also just be a piece of art that we can take as

a story and is extremely compelling, beautiful. And I think the fact that we're having this discussion means that it is so personal and so it's so well executed and it's performed so well that the fact that we're debating it to this extent means that it's succeeded on every level. And I think that it's shrewd of her to use her actual husband in the video and to show clips of her father and her as a child, because she

knows that everyone knows who they are. She knows that this is for people that get the narrative or think that they could get the narrative, and it's just driving this thing home. And actually, like I I believe and enjoy it either way, because I believe as much as it's about her, it's also about the experience of and I obviously can't speak to us, and none of us can speak to us, but I feel that Lemonade is

about the experience of being a black woman. And that's why I think it's so great that it ends with formation. She's like, I've been through all this stuff. Many of us have been through all this stuff, and we're still going to go on and became MB soldiers and we're gonna be proud, and we're gonna get in formation. And it's just like it's about the experience of being someone that's always tossed aside, even by the men in their lives,

and that's something very unique to her perspective. And I don't it doesn't matter to me whether it's a fact or not. And I think she, Yeah, she succeeded in

sort of underlining her thesis. I'm just kind of using such a not just language, but I feel like she was just trying to make a statement on how like misogyny and racism are at their most like powerful even in the intimacies of a marriage, right, And that's like all those those those Malcolm X quotes were all just like super super relevant and pointing it and I think, um, god, yeah, I think it's it's it's such a good piece of work. It really is away like this is the girl who

was bootylicious. That's what she's become. This it's such a short amount of time. And not to diminish the value of those amazing songs that she did before Beyonce, which really was a turning point, and that visual album, I mean, I lost madam mind wow, I'm still not okay, I'm still recovering. I mean that was I think that was truly that that album was about something entirely different too, because it was about really more sexuality and owning what sexuality.

So funny, I was just telling my best you were talking about Beyonce, were like we were just debating whether she can have sex with her husband. Like the debate last album was like is she a feminist if she has sex? And it feels like that was so long ago, that was two years ago. It's like crazy how much we were holding her under that scrutiny and now it's a whole different thing. It's always going to be something else, but she keeps evolving so quickly. It's so exciting, it's

so funny because people like Piers Morgan. Do you see what he said? Like he's literally mad at her for having because she has thoughts and opinions about the fact that she is black. Specifically, he was mad about how she exploited all these mothers of the TV. Exploiting the situation is literally what he does to everything that he's a commentator, He's a talking hat. He exploits everything for his own personal game. Who is he to talk? He's

an idiot, total idiot. What is he doing crazy? Honestly, like to speak to something that like he's not intellectually are creatively capable of doing it? Anyway? I know he's the worst, and like just everyone's It just brings me back to the whole Super Bowl thing. If he was like, oh she what hypocrite? Oh my god, wait a minute,

Can I tell you guys a story? I don't think I don't even think I told you this what We were doing a story pirate show at Series x M, and we were in this waiting area, like you know, they put you back into this area with like some food and like and stuff, and Bowen and I are in are in the We do shows for kids, and we do shows on the radio. So we had the Sirius XM and there's like a little green room, the green room where people said before they do the shows,

and they go and it's a giant TV. And on the TV was TMZ and then there's a there's a gentleman sitting on the on the chair next to us and he's just like on his phone and he's a very stylish guy. And then I look at him and I recognize him, like like I have seen him somewhere. And then I turned it and then on the TV on TMZ is this is right after the super Bowl. They're talking about, oh it is Beyonce anti Police or whatever, and then this guy is just kind of like shaking

his head. And then and then right at that moment, it clicks. He's the guy in the exo video who's on the roller coaster with her and he's Beyonce's stylist. I recognized him and I go, Hi, are you? And then I at first I did some very sneaky googling, like I need to get his name. I can't just be like, are you Beyonce's stylist? I just wanted to like pay him the decency to like so it's like are you and I forget I forget his name. I'm so sorry you guys. But then I was like are

you this and this and that? And he goes, oh yeah, and I know so your Beyonce's stylist and he's like m And then everyone in the room like all the other story parts like what and like right as this fucking missive against Beyonce was being heard on TV, and I was like, what do you think about this? And he was like he's like, it's nuts, Like it's it's not like like he styled those women he styled like. He was like, it's it's a reference that's not a stag.

Like he was like, I forgot what he said exactly, but he was just like he didn't put too many words to it either. He was just like he just didn't Carrey. He was like, no, it's just ridiculous. Everyone's blowing this out of her port funny and he was there for a show like Upstairs, and I was I was really star strick. I was like, you're in the US video. I mean, also, her style is her stylist.

That's crazy culture stuff. I think what what inspired me first of all about both Super Bowl performances for her, it was like, look how hard you could work and be so talented and you can do anything like you nail it. Those are such when I need inspiration. I watched those and I can even though I can't. You're You're gonna like, literally, your silhouette's gonna light up in fire one day at the super Bowl. You know that?

That is what I picture when I have to walk into a room that's high pressure, and I also walk around like that. I noticed my stance is constantly. I'm like Jaunty on the Hip with do you do you stomp the runway on the street in New York? Oh? I stomp, Yeah, I stomped the runway quite a bit. I do what? What? What? What was it Chet who said that I did a figure on the box pods. But here's Carrie Bradshaw. I strut. I'm a strutter. Shut up, Carrie, what you're doing now? I mean? You must be that

I know. So she doesn't. She doesn't play down her intelligence or creativity for other people. She's going to come out and do what's right for her as an artist, and she's not gonna worry. As far as I understand about the idiots who are going to misinterpret, like Lemonade is hard to interpret, and if you go through the lyrics of the song, they're loaded with meaning and the poetry she's poetry, Like that's way more she It's a commercial release with Lemonade in Times Square and go to

HBO and it's free for everyone. But she's not going to dumb it down. She's going to make us come to her level. And I'm so impressed by that. And this is something that I've been thinking about for a few days, and like, I would really encourage everyone to truly look herself in the face and ask herself this question. Everyone who says, well, she's not writing those songs, she's not creatively involved in that, I want everyone to actually think, how much of the reason you're saying that is because

she's a black woman. So how much of your inherent bias you don't even realize is coming out because she's a black woman who talks with maybe a Southern accent, who like maybe presents herself in a certain way. How much of your bias is causing you to say, well, she can't possibly be creative. Someone I saw some idiot and I don't know how I'm Facebook friends with him post at right after Lemonade came out. Oh well, Beyonce came up with a great new album. Will listen to

her open her mouth and speak. And then he like commented on on his own fucking status like, um, oh yeah, she has three thoughts in her head total or something like just it's like, you know what Kanye does this album? No one says everyone else does this album. Even Taylor Swift, like she she's in control of her product, and wow, what an amazing young songwriter. Can't believe how young she is. I can't believe how in control of her brand is

what it's Beyonce. It's like despite you know, people spreading rumors about you know, her poaching material or whatever, blah blah blah. Whoever, like everyone's a genius and as the intel, everyone has the scoop, but like you're saying this about really only her, and like the only other woman in the industry who I can think of the people talk about that way who's on that level is Rihanna. She well, she obviously doesn't write anything, she doesn't do anything, blah

blah blah blah blah. And it's just like you wouldn't say this about is the hardest working woman in entertainment.

I mean, there's no question about it. And she and when Beyonce came, when her last album came out, she put out this series of like just the little confessional interviews that were really nice, and she just she was just so good in them, and she's just talking about making the album and she's just so so articulate and intelligent, and it's like, no, you guys are choosing, you guys are seeing what you want to see, and that like, oh well, she's just dumb, like which doesn't even I

think her her interviews from the past haven't been great, but the work like really pops and says so much more. And some people just also like aren't interview people. She doesn't feel comfortable doing that, and like, I think if you actually look like I remember years ago when when I think she was on a promotional tour for maybe it was like b Day and it was after that and like her clothing line was coming out her Tina Knows Clothing I was coming out. She was on all

the talk shows with her mother. She I just think she genuinely might not be that comfortable doing that. I remember years ago, in the start of her career, they were trying to have her host like the VMA's Red Carpet and Ship. It didn't seem right, it didn't seem like she should be doing. But like crazy manager that was her father that she eventually dumped, which is her decision. And like, I just don't know how much will do you think is being pulled over your eyes? Like is

everything a conspiracy? Now? Like, I don't know. I see a lot of similarities between her as someone who doesn't like the press, but it's a hard worker with another female figure. But we won't talk. You're talking, I'm talking about I don't And what are we talking. We're talking about Hillary Week for women in a big week for women haters, let's give it. Hillary was on a podcast off message on Politico and it was such a good She's she's so this is the most relaxed I've ever

heard her. And she was just like being real. She was like, listen, I'm not a good I'm not good at campaigning because I don't like to do it. And meanwhile, my like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. She goes, they're so good at it because it's like music to them like they love to do it. They love to campaign and get people together, and and and then she goes and this is so important and I'm sorry we're on this

Hillary tangent. But she doesn't care. But she goes um for the longest time, she says, for the longest time, I had trouble saying that, making eye statements. She had trouble making things like I want your I want you to vote for me. She would only ever talk, She was like, for the longest time, I would only ever talk in terms of we, in terms of us, in terms of or I could. I have no problem talking

about he, she at us whatever. But she had such a hard time like making it about her because that's just what she She internalized that over years and years and years of being a woman who's constantly scrutinized, like she's not good at this because she doesn't care for it, because it's not that important and it's not natural, right, The campaigning is not natural. It's not. If it is,

you're very close to an eaglemania. Look at the people who are great campaigners, not Brack my love, but I mean kind of like John Edwards and he's like real great. These are like these people who can go up and command a room and speak, but they're also kind of uh thinking about the kind of people that go for that. I mean, you know what I mean. And you know, Hillary being at the level that she is is a big symptom of her being closely related to someone that

was good at that. I think it was late in her life that she may be thought, maybe I want to run for officer actually be president of the United States. I don't know for sure that before being first Lady she was thinking that way. I mean, this isn't some bullshit House of cards scenario. I don't think which people really wanted to make it into that. But it's like, how much are you going to believe that everything is

a conspiracy until you drive yourself fucking crazy? But the Beyonce stuff, it is it's like like you're threatened by someone who doesn't fit your idea of power obtaining power, and you have to create another story around how they got there. It's crazy and it's like it's it's like, so you're saying, so what people are saying is that literally nothing that comes out of her mouth is genuine. Why do you think she wants to be president? Also

she does carry hot sauce and her fucking that is true. Yeah, there's a lot of content like why are you even talking about not not us? I mean just like why are people upset about that? I mean well, I mean the rest of that interview that she that she did for that for that quote was like some host was like calling her out. They were like, well, aren't you are you trying to pan her to black voters and she was like, well is it working? Like she was nervous and I don't know. She like like again she's

not good at campaign. Again, God forbids she make any joke too. I mean it's like it's like all of a sudden, like Joe Biden is the only politician who can have a sense of humor nowadays. Like it's it's just like ridiculous. Shut up again. I just want to tell everyone that's like talking sure about her to shut up, Like, to shut up. You can support Bernie without dragging you

really care and you look so stupid. And I'm honestly it makes me so mad to this point because now everyone posting these Bernie status is you're you're none of you are succeeding in doing it without dragging Hillary, and you don't really have that good of a reason. You're not backed up, and you're and it's it's crazy and it's gotten so ugly, like shut Bernie voted in the prison bill that the Clintons pushed to through Congress. Anyway, I wonder if Hillary and will Beionce come out for Hillary,

I think, But it was private. I heard they were like recording. There was a video that was taped of them that exists in the world. Maybe she'll wait till it's closer to the election. Yeah, sure, maybe, I mean I always, I mean tell her Slift could never come out and support a candidate, because I think she's got so many would come out and say she didn't support Trump. I'm sure, here's my reason why you shouldn't vote for Trump, like whatever politics aside. Look at your supporters. You have

Aaron Carter, like who else? It's just like gross people like that. Yeah, there was there was another one. Um, I forget fucking Azalea Banks, who had a lot of Donald Trump. But she's also doing it for like burn the world reasons, but like fun, we're having fun with that fun Omarossa. You gotta there's the classic interview of Omarossa and Wendy Williams. You ever seen that on Wendy? That was the shade called everything that Oh the shade tree. Alright,

p I'm the Laura calling it out. I'm saying, we need the shade tree to live and where is it? I need another in the shade Laura act, I speak

for the shade tree. We need um. What was Wendy Williams came about her What a moment for her when that video came back of her actually talking about all that jay Z Beyonce stuff and being extremely accurate after the elevator, she was like, here's exactly what happened, and she talked about how at the met gala, uh that Solange saw jay Z with Rachel and was very upset and the reason why they were in the elevator is because and she didn't do it beyond it did in moves,

because Beyonce knew that there was a camera and that Solange was writing my interview and she called the whole thing. She said literally like shot for shot. Here's why this is Wendy Williams. She was she's our Nancy Drew and that Yeah, that's a great video's little face. He's just like, oh, Rachel Roy. I had to design. Um uh. I work at this company that sells home furnishings and we get a lot of these partnerships with like fucking cannon fodder celebrities.

Um Rachel Roy was one of them, and we did we did an office makeover for her, and I had to design to design, like the hero design spots for them to fuss contact of the affair. I'm dropping this Culture News brief. Team Rachel Roy is Team Rachel Roy, Rachel Ray. I want, I want like a big bee hive. Is not as smart as they should be, but I think it's karmically. It's it's so satisfying because Rachel Rachel Ray is apparently a monster. I've heard that too. Yeah.

I believe that Kelly Rip was a monster. I love her, And I tell you something, I've heard some shady s. My sister worked on that show and she says that she's amazing, and she well, she wasn't like she was amazing, but she was like, yeah, Kelly RiPP is very nice. You know what, Maybe she's very nice. I heard I heard an account from my from my aunt. This is a fun story. My aunt. My my aunt nuncle have a good a bit of money and they their daughter

raised horses. She was like an equestrian, so she trained um at this I guess equestrian school and they were getting ready for like the competition. So like Kelly Rippa's daughter also rais and so like I guess they were too competing horse schools. So like all the moms are there watching like the meat or whatever. I guess. It's like, what is it the Derby. It's called the Derby, by the way, we had to say, we're wearing some brim hats.

Speaking of derby, Janey looks stunning in her my head is so big that it's just like a thimble on a ball. It would be, it would be, it would be a wrong thing if like it looked good, because we're particularly we all look stupid. Anyway, at the Derby, my my cousin went to go and her horse wants to go jump over like a hurdle, which is part of it. And the horse didn't make it over the hurdle, and my cousin got them from the horse, and like

for a second was like kind of unconscious. It's just like the simple life and the Olsen twins on that one episode of Full House. It was back around let so basically like Christine and my cousin was still from the horse and hit her head and was like, oh, I guess unconscious for a minute, and of course my aunt is freaked out, and Kelly Rippa apparently made like a bitchy comment about that's why you don't train it

like wildwood or something. But like but like honestly, my apparently turned around to give her the business about like her body or something. Likely went for like in a way that like those women would really not want to become attack a woman's Oh my god, that's crazy. But yeah, that's what I heard about Rippa. But also she did appear to be very cool. Did you see like her address today? She went on, she went on, and like they gave her like a good solid five minutes to

address the audience, and she's seemed very cool. Certainly like couples that I keep in mind, hetero couples that I love to just like have them back and and rip up. It was that like offensive him and like no, no, you guys did it. It's like I don't know you did it. Just that's it's I mean, just kidding. I did an improp show for little kids and I did what could potentially be like an offensive Latin accent, but like,

it's fine, they love I've done it. I've done that accent on the UCB Stage two and it was fine. I played like a European Bond fill in and I did like a Latin accident and it was fine. No one said anything to me. But honestly whatever, I'm just gonna say this come for me. Culture does. But the only access I'm good at are ones that I'm not allowed to do. Yeah, that I can't do, like any of the accents that do them all right now that I mean I do. He's like, okay, So the thing

is like you should never ever do occur. I grew up on Long Island where everything was offensive and everything was also okay, so it's like, yeah, I live in that gray area. But anyway, guys, what's the favorite track on beyond Lemonade? Here we go? Oh you know what, I just want to I just want to link Hillary and Beyonce one more time. Okay, stay with her husbands, you know after infidelity? Yes they did, and that's tough for me. It's tough. For me too, because can I

say something please? During sand Castles in Limonading the film, I was a great song. I was shocked when they cut to jay Z. It was shocking. It was maybe not earned, That's what I'm saying, Like, up until that point in the film, and I get I get that that song was like the inflection point in the in the story. But I feel like, up until that point in the film, it was all about a woman's journey two through like these very Kubler Rossian stages of grief

and acceptance or whatever. I'm looking through the track list right now to see what kind of proceeds that. It's Love Drought, Love Drought, which is an amazing song. I'll get to that later. But so it's Daddy Lessons. So I feel like Daddy Lessons, so you have the whole first five songs, which are like pretty angry, yeah, like and it's sets a tone, and then Daddy Lessons is like, well, let me look actually at my life and like how

how things have shaken out? And I see what my father has done to my mother and maybe I married into the same thing, and I just I feel like that's kind of where it's going. Love drought. What does that song about? It's Um, it's it's like it's like, I know you're lying, but why because you and I can move we can move them out, and we can calm calm a war down. We can make it rain on this love drought. Like the lyrics are excellent. Um, but I mean, yeah, so sand Castle's is like the

turning point in the in the movie. And for me, yeah, it was unearned what Janey said, like, it was just it was all about and I guess it's placed well, like I don't begrudge of that. I just I don't think j Z should have been in it at all because it's about women's journeys in but he's part of her journey. He's a huge part of her journey. And I actually, this is where I'm going to take a contrarian stance. I'm gonna say, you know, this is about her first and foremost, but he is a part of her.

And I think that you know, it's it's up to her. It's she is empowered to make the choice to forgive. And I think that she that that in and of itself is really hard, and I think yes, and again, another brave thing about lemonade. Is it opens her up to that criticism. I just love that we're talking about this in the first place. Yeah, and that's why it's so great. It's because you know everyone has an opinion on what you do and that you either stand by

your man or you fucking book it. And it's like this. It is interesting to think about in the lens of Hillary because there's those people like Carly Fiorina and other idiots that are like, listen, if Bill Clinton did what did that to me? I would have left him a long time ago. That's why you can't trust her what she She's funked up and can't make decisions for herself.

And then those people it was mid to late nineties, mind you, where it was very stand by your man and honestly, she's damned if she does, and she's damned if she does, and with everything in her life, but especially that and now to think about this with Beyonce, Yeah, we can be upset, we can be mad, and I'm happy that we're angry at jay Z and not Rachel Roy, because let's be mad at him. Team Rachel Roy go

out by an expensive skirt. But the thing is like she's opened her up to herself up to this criticism and it that's that's that's brave. I'm not using that one. It always sends her casting now because you've just ruined it. Also, I just want to say one more thing about the Hillary thing, because I think another way to look at her is to actually look at her supporters, her really

ardent supporters in government. Um, there's an interview with Kirsten Gillibrand that James Falter posted and then I reposted, and this is really a good interview, Like it's like maybe it's an hour, and she gets really emotional several times about the interview and she's really in Hillary's corner, and it feels so genuine and this is someone that knows her And I would just encourage people to kind of like check that out, like because like I really think

we're at a point now where we're refusing to educate ourselves. Says to me, I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren. I'm going to slap somebody. Here's the thing. Elizabeth Warren does not want to be president run for president, and she this delusion people have that she's going to be chosen as the VP. Let it go. She if she wanted to be in the White House, she would have made the decision She's not going to put herself into place where she's a heart beat away from the White House if

she doesn't want to be president. And it's a it's a very telling choice of her not to endorse either Canada. Yeah, think so too. She would have she would have endorsed Bernie eight years ago, like it was if she was totally on board with him, because she has her reasons not to be. I think she genuinely is on the she I think she's on the right side of everything. And I think, like I think you could, you can make the argument that both of them as candidates have flaws.

I mean, they're both insane something something really. Elizabeth Warren's is solange because she is right. She's Um Williams and she punched. But imagine no, yeah, imagine actually rule number ninety of culture Elizabeth Warren Z. Yeah, we actually are going to be um creating here. How much close to use that's a gift of Elizabeth Warren punching j Z.

I think, yeah, it's gonna be um. But yeah, I mean, the one thing that's really important to me in the election and Kirsten Gillibrand gets really emotional about this is guns and I'm sorry, Bernie, Bernie is not as good as Hillary on guns, and you can't convince me otherwise. I don't care about what you say about hiss NR. I rating it's it's I don't know, no, trying to figure out who he'd be as a pop star. But

it's not really translating. Okay, we actually did this for a second for drag race for pop stars for pop stars, I think, can we do? I remember this Katie Perry is Hillary. I don't know. It was too fun. No, Joel can Booster has done this. Um Hillary is Taylor Swift and Bernie is Carly ray Jepson. That's insane. I know that. I know Joel. I know Joel has given the edge to car I'm not on board interesting Carly well because I mean, like this is this was back

when Joel was more what was Trump rita? Aura Trump is rita or it doesn't make any sense. This was back when Joel was more Bernie leaning and Joel and Joel was like standing for Carly ray Jepson and hating on Taylor. So for him it was very need a hint, people, what did you say, I'm here without you? Maybe just like no go away? Do you know what song came out at Worth the other day which is actually a jam? Crypt No? I mean maybe. Um. Guys, look, we are nearing the end and we have to get hit a

couple of segments. So I don't janey you're a fan of the show. People that are fans of the show, we know we have are one of our favorite segments. This is called I don't Think so high. This is when we have put sixty seconds on the clock and you have sixty seconds to rail against something in culture or something that's affecting you culturally in any way. Using the term I don't think so many as much as you can. And it should be impassionate to be a

full thought missive. It should be a missive. Now, Bonen, do you have something that you want to talk about? I don't, do you. I think I think one of us should start to the g can you can see I think that one of us should begin and I can go Firstna go first? Okay, alright, women in o'clock, whenever you start, ok and I'm I am ready great. I don't think so honey. The f train on a

Sunday night. Let me tell you something. F I have to get home and all of a sudden, it's like it's after seven pm on a Sunday and you're taking a break. Well, guess what you work for me? Honey, I don't think so. You don't get to take break unless I say I would rather you take a break, Quite honestly, in the middle of the day, in the middle of the work day. We need you at these times, all right. You need to be there for me when I need to get home to Seventh Avenue off the

f G and guess what. How can I have to transfer so many times to get home? Honey, I don't think so. I'm tired of hopping to the A to the C, to the B, to the F, to the to the T T T T. I don't want to honey. I don't want to transfer, no, mom, I don't want to be a player no more. Honey, You're too much And how come I'm getting stuck? I want when I'm on the subway next they're gonna say who's gonna stop this, and I'm gonna say me, And then I want fight Song by Rachel Platton to play. I'm gonna say no

more empty TV because I don't think so. That's one minute. I think. I think that really is going to change things. Lost a little bit of steam towards the end. No, I think I got more firm. You got more firm. I think I got stronger, and that was really good. Why do I get stuck like Whitney? I don't stuck. Oh man, Whitney's great, come on, Bowen. I had to think. It went on the spot. I had to speak from the heart. I'm a little disappointed with my I have a similar one. Well, no, no, no, I don't wait

stop stop stop, I really don't. I can do all right, all right, now you go, you go. It is time and it begins. I don't see the time. I'm like nervous. Sorry, I don't think so, honey. To the current state of brand integration on the Housewives franchise, because it started out with Bethany, and she knew what she was doing. Even before she knew she knew what she was doing, she built Skinny Girl into a million dollars sail to Jenny.

On her own, she was hawking muffins and a grocery source sas in one of real Housewives in New York. Now we get these women thinking they're so savvy, we see through all of it. I'm not buying your rock that you say is a jewel. I'm not buying your toaster of and that's going to set my house on fire, Sonja. I'm not buying the third iteration of a drink now called like tipsy girl. I see through you, and I'm sorry. I'm also not buying the Bravos sponsorship with Soul Cycle

where you go to Habitat for Humanity afterwards. I'm on board with Habitat, and I think it cheapens their brand and their integrity. Soul Cycle should be ashamed of themselves. I think that they should be ashamed themselves for many reasons, but one of them is that they are horrible. And I don't think so. Honey, Wow, you did it. I think that that and you know what, truly attacked culture.

And I said, I think now people are going to be more aware because I don't know that everyone has really thought about the spears baptize your pain and you're suffering. I'll let Beyonce. Sometimes it's just having a minute on the class and just saying whatever you want. But you and me love drought. I think, right, are you doing one? I'm doing one? And still I'm still stumped. Well bow, and I don't know what to say. I don't think all right, okay, I don't think honey, I've got something.

All right, here we go. I don't think so, honey. People who keep squatting in meaning rooms and conference rooms right after they've been booked, well past they've been they're booking time, I don't. I cannot hover outside and be a vulture for you and just wait and shoot you, you know, mean eyes, and say, well, you know it's it's time, And then I have to be the onus is on me to open up the door, crack it open, and peek in and be like, hey, guys, we have

the room. I don't think so, honey, because you know what, it's not on me, it's on you. Reheartual rooms, conference conference rooms at work and at your office or anywhere you know, any kind of scheduled space. You cannot hold the space for longer than you're a lot of times, this is done. This is done. Excuse me, this is mine. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so honey. Matt Rodgers I don't think so, honey. People who cut into my who cut into my space, who take up

space for designated space for me. This is exactly what is wrong with Janey. Do you do not take up space for me? I don't think so, honey, Janey. And that is one minute, Honey, you were the culture of being under attacked air I truly was. I think that Bowen Yang is a huge part of culture. And I think that I attacked him. I think that Jeney attacked him. I think that's how you know it's worth improved my point.

And you still you peeked your head out, you said, not right now, but listen, I know because this is the opposite. I had the conference room, but you two were the ones who picked your head in when you did not have the room. Books. Honey, honey, I don't think so. I don't think all of our clocks are said at different times. I think you're right. Someone's time up is not your time up unless you have the universal clock. Honting. This is a victim clock blaming scenario.

You're ridiculous, You're all You're all filth, just disgusting. I hate where is the shape? I hate you? I can I just say I hate that. I hate I hate you, I hate Jenie, I hate our producer Joe, I hate I hate everything. So we love it. Um. Actually that's the time is really truly affected what I thought this was a safe It is it is? Can I tell you that was all a bit? And also now, thank god bits I have relieve also, um, and I just want to say, it's time to do a Culture of

the week. So this is when we was our favorite culture show, our favorite culture of the week. Um, the best thing that's happening in culture this week for you besides Lemonade, which this is gonna be a tough, tough task. I think you can listen to me and bones culture of the week and then you can make it terms out.

I actually know right away when I'm gonna go ahead. Um. You know my culture of the week are on ride photos Disney World, Disney photos, and I think you know it's so amazing what you can do when you're on a ride at Disney in terms of enjoyment, in terms of experience, but what's really incredible is what you can take home with you aka the merch um. And so this is not only just merched for the sake of having merch, which of course that's why it exists rule

number three of culture merches merger question. So like, yeah, and I think, um, now you have a visual memory. I'd like to harken back to a time when we were on Rock and roller Coaster and we've got a truly a great picture taking David Gust last week. It was a wonderful photo and we were able to buy it. And I think that was so smart of Disney to sell something because as you know, and I just would like to really caution everyone, don't spend your money anywhere

else but Disney. They need your money. Disney pranks aren't funny photos and roller coasters. That's so funny. And also the different kinds of faces that you can do in the pictures. You can do a serious face, you can do a really big, over the top face. There aren't where it's like, I just want to see funny face. Yeah, I want to see more funny faces in these photos. I want to see more faces of all kinds. I want to see you buying these on. Right, you know

what's funny with your money? Knowing when in the roller coaster or in the ride, the camera it's so fun to know, so fun. So that's my culture for the week. Photographs that you can buy at Disney World on ride photographs amazing. Um, well, my culture of the week has to be Uh, the ice cream part are in the Magic Kingdom of Disney World. Explain, explain listen when they're trying to you know, shoe away all of the patrons

and guests at the Magic Kingdom. Um. You know, the ice cream parlor bravely stays open until about one thirty am. And I believe when Matt and I went with her friend David Um as we were making our exit from the park, the ice cream parlor was open and they serve you a variety. There are so many flavors of many favors in the world, in the world and at the ice cream parlor. And there are a variety of cones,

whether it's waffle or sugar. I can't get your eyes come on a waffle cone, on a sugar cone, on a wafer cone, or in a dipped cone, or or or in a plane cup. That's right now, we're talking to eat ice cream with a spoon. You can eat just with your mouth. You can eat it well, absolutely, And it's at Disney World. It's a Disney World, which is the best part. I love that. So, Jannie, what's what is your culture of the week. My cluture of

the week is at a New World. When you are looking for something to do in your room and you had a nice day, you can look at this Twitter account that's just called everything goats goats, just pictures of baby goats, And I think goats are the new cat slashdog like they really think started with and that's what that's what it is. That's what it is. You know what it was? It was dogs and cats and then for a second, for just it was such a small window,

but little tiny miniature pigs. Yes, they had a moment. They scared me a little, a little scary. They seemed unhealthy, they seemed like forced the metaboli, their metabolisms are probably very abnormal, abnormal. They cannot teller gluten, etcetera. But the goat is something else. The goat is ador It runs sideways,

It screams at inappropriate times, it eats things. Some people have them in their homes, which raises so many questions loving goats, And there's a great Twitter where it's just like it's like, um, haters go to hate and it's a goat wearing sunglasses. Sony goat. Now I'm thinking that doesn't make sense. Janey, would you where would you place? Everything good? Everybody goes, everything goes. I wanted to be everybody goes, everybody everything. I'm not quite sure anything goes. Well.

That's got him goats today and goats bad anyway. So is this I just want to do a shout out, a Disney shout out to Brady Okallaham Radio. He's living his goddamn wife on this vacation and thank you for doing it without an insovirony. He's posting such great photos from his trip. Here, so other people in in the community who just fully, earnestly embraced Disney. Um Michael Hart and Michael Harney, Jason Gore, Kristen Bartlett, Chapman, Oh have

you never been? When I was? You must. I feel as if maybe there's like a huge Disney trip to be taken. I mean, like maybe we must and then we'll do a series called Fortnits in Orlando, my favorite Instagram series of many man. Well, gosh, I mean, this has been such a fun episode. We talked, really talked, fun you know what, that's we have to go to.

Culture is all about shaking it up, getting a little bit real, having a little bit of fun, and making sure we all take it the same amount of seriousness, right, so eloquently, so elegant, and listen, when you have a real when you have it fun, you have to take

it with the same seriousness. Alright, guys, my thanks and bones thanks to Janie Stillar and I really want to I want to because are you at Janie Stillar reference, Yes, of course, which is why you earned your spot this particular episode Lemonade episode I really want to um plug um. Two things Lemonade, the new album by Beyond you haven't heard of it. It's real cool and a spanking up.

This Friday, Murder My Spirits. The Spirits, which I co wrote with my good friend Carly Anne Philbin and Bowen Yang features in it, featured and it will be up at six pm at UCB. Um. What did you want to plug? I want to plug? Oh gosh, I don't have that much to plug. Oh well, if you're in l A. On May ten, oh um, I will be hosting an old variety show of mine called Ethnic Realness with mycar we're on the same coast. It's it's it's a gay blood moon, so I love that. Any plugs

besides um, I guess just female gays. May four. Three expressions with reality people who have met reality stars. Timothy Timothy Dunn has met Miss New York and or who auditioned for a real world No, yes, that is a story. Then a story like that has never been met. He met her boyfriend named d J Bucky Blend's, So I have so many questions d J Bucky Blen guys, so many shows to see on both coast, and I can't a way to see you at all. Oh my god less culture races. We had fun, we had fun, and

we took it with all this. We thank you, Jamie love Hi glacklandy lotany. This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett Bom For more podcasts, pleased this Corever Dog Productions dot com door