"Ladies of the Canyon" (w/ Ned Riseley & Rachel Wenitsky)

because there is a wealth of things to cover. When I sat down, I had a thought, and I actually told everyone in the room that I had a thought, and I said that I would wait to say the thought until the podcast started, And it's now started, and I can reveal the thought that I had. Please. I'm very excited because I can talk about Orlando on this

episode when what forbade you? And you included you from talking about earliendo on the other one, Often we have a guest that's not an Orlando, bitch, This is an or Lando. But I feel that one of at least one of our guests there are there are plural guests in the studio too. They don't claim to think or assume that's just because someone comes on this podcast that they're in Orlando, bitch. But I know for a fact we have at least one Orlando bitch and this' it's

rude when you're not an Orlando bitch. I think when you sort of know that we're we are Erilando bitches. And I feel like the potentially non Disney bitch of the two of our guests should have should have known that. But I think they have I I think they have a very um uh. I don't want to say they have a theme park energy, but I can picture the the other guests who's not the confirmed Orlando bitch. I can picture them very vividly in the theme park and think they have a nice time and chump chomp on

a turkey, but maybe not too scary, huh. I find that this person is very sensitive and I wouldn't want to put them on a ride with like a loud sound. That might be a real thing to deal with later on. He scream, He would scream, it's actually a real culture number. When things happen, people may scream. Think that that is so true. I have to reveal something to you, and this might be hard to hear. But one of our guests and right after this, I'm going to bring them

in and she can explain herself to you. One of our guests, the Orlando Bitch, has begun to start plans with me about going to Disneyland together in Los Angeles, California. Stop doing that. That's my that's me crying. That's the sound of my tears hitting the floor. Stop of this collap trap. You're heavy, heavy tears, and unfortunately you will be in another state and not able to join us.

You guys, why would you do this? Because she asked, Look, it's fine, like you and I have different relationships with are the confirmed Orlando Bitch? Like you guys get to

go to Disneyland together. I am on a text bed with her called Club ass formerly titled Asked Berths, where we update each other on our daily poops and she is a here right, that's not the kind of fun I like to use a huge part of my life in that way, and your ass life, my ask life, and then the other guests, the Unconfirmed Orlando Bitch I have loved since the first time I saw him. To be honest with you, he's one of those people that you just you see him and then you ask, what

do you like? What's the deal with him? Like when you find out loving relationship and you move on and you move And how was that for you? Easy? Yeah, not that I don't think he's fantastic. It's just like you to tell me twice. But it doesn't surprise you, right, You're like, of course spoken for. I wasn't surprised at all. And it doesn't it doesn't like hit you. It isn't. It's not like a kick in the gut, a punch in the gut. You're like, no, I know. It was

like a tickle on the shoulder. It was like he has a boyfriend. I was like, okay, yeah, for for sure checks out. You know, so talented, so talented them not just one and then the and the confirmed Orlando bitch, incredible, married to one of our favorite people. Change my life change and then she changed my life. She and I were well, we'll talk about this listen, and not to like not to like reference these people in terms of

invitation to their partners. They're significant other of course there they have full, complete, full lives on their own and that's confirmed this And we're going to hear some songs today. That's the reason why we're back in hunt Engineer Ronnie's studio. Is we in the studio, we're going to hear their songs. I love their music so much, and can I say something? But do you know how every time we come to Hot Engineer Ronnie studio, he's always playing like a really

good jam. He wasn't playing a good jam today, but that's because the guests were rehearsing one of their jams. And so canonically we're still we're still, we're still in that space. Ye. I remember Hanter Jiner. Ronnie played Sissa Control like the week it came out, and I was like,

is this that new says the album? And he was like yeah, and I was like, it's really And then of course I asked like and you were like no, no, And I was like okay, cool and were immediately because you and I are both like Ronnie plays like Carly ray Jepson's songs. I was like, he is he is a friend friend of Dorothy And is he is he? I don't know? In the Madi Queen Society? Is he in the Madi Quean Society? Is he a bob strikes the ticket holder? They oh, now we're back to clueless. Hum.

But Ronnie is not no, just fine And I love that and I love I love all my straight friends Now. I love the music so much from our guests. I can't wait to experience our guests. And I'm in the studio musically. And you can listen to their album, Friends who Folk. It's a self titled album, UM, Spotify, iTunes, Apple Music, wherever streaming happened. They perform all over the city. Yes, they are called Friends who Folk. Please give it up for Rachel. What a cookie intro? I don't think it was.

It was so up and down and all around. I felt like I was on a dark ride. Now you how dare you go behind my back? And planets? Now? Did you know about this? About this Disneyland trip? That there? I did not know about it yet. I mentioned I am not an Orlando bitch. I will just say, will you never be? You don't have to be nervous about saying it. I could be. I think I could. I definitely have enjoyed Orlando it But college, M, what was the last time you would I think? I was? I

was little. That was your first so I don't know. Yeah, I haven't quite seen it as an adult, so I don't know what my response would be. I'm giving them one a knowing look when I see kids at theme parks. I think they're going to regret being kids. Yes, well I recently didn't. I don't think so, Honey. Kids at the Magic Kingdom, I don't think they should be there.

I don't think it's for them. It's not all. I feel like this is where maybe we disagree because I feel like Magic Kingdom is the one place that is for kids and the rest of them. I like to describe Universal Studios as a theme park for it's not think that you're not. That's not inaccurate. Have you heard about the new Harry Potter coaster that they're building, because because now man'll say it's gonna be, there's gonna be

a coaster. It's one of the most highly themed, ghastly and I think it's going to be like The Mummy, right, It's going to be very that. And there's seven launches. Seven. I'm telling you, literally be as much of a freak as I am and go on YouTube. Comes are really excited about it, and that's the Thing's so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. The trades are are a buzz. The trades are a buzz. Wait, can I ask you a question? What what's keeping you from going back to Orland. Now,

I don't think, yeah, it's not like an act. I don't think it's an active aversion to it. The opportunity just hasn't a reason. But if you guys invited, if you come to in February, we will go to That's the plan is that we're going to go when the first three weeks of feb okay, so we're definitely going. I want to do Disney. I went to nuts Berry Farm last night. I heard that's fun. Well, it's like it is a very themed theme far about berries. Its

whole thing is berries, yes, so like fruit. I don't started it started as it started as like a pie pie shop and then there was a really really long line for the pie shops. So the guy not Mr not I guess was like done not done, was like, I'm going to put up some attractions to keep the people in line for these berry pies that my wife makes. Busy and then and then Disneyland opened and he was like, oh, that seems like a good idea and just grew it

into a theme park. Yeah, you might start past me as the well, oh my god, the guy who thought a shirt on his back huge there's a guy across the street from us who is purely naked, Yes, bouncing up and down and bopping around. Are you guys exhibitionists? I mean in that I have been naked and continue to be naked in my own home, but not like a stranger to see me. Are you in my window? Are you commonly nude in front of the house, in the house, in front of your partner, like, look at me,

look at me? No? Every Yeah, when I'm nude, I says, and I yeah, no one's ever seen me fully nude. I always have one very sort of thin, like a really thin silk scarf that's draped around just so. Yes, I always have like a like a like a light film over me, like like a dirty it's like an extremely dirty it's an extremely dirty, very light um coat, just dirty enough to never be new. So there really, really there's no reason for me to I love. That's like a dirty gown, dirty night, dirty night. I love.

I actually love that. Do that. I definitely do that. Do you know my mom got me for a Christmas what a bathrobe? That's a nice nice Yes, she wants you to experience luxury. Yeah, and I have been Yeah, is it like a fluffy night roobe or like a cloth. It looks okay, it actually says it says on the man, what's what's the name of that place where the counts is the land um her husband cheated on her at this place. I have no idea. The Marriott, No, it's like but it says the name of of the that

that hotel Oriental. No, it's not that. The knots very far from hotel. We can float away from this. I don't remember the hostel. I'm just saying it's going to be very hard to be there with Rachel and have to you know, I don't want to hurt you, so I don't want I want to monitor my instrument while we're there, though I'll keep you apprised of all my ships. Yes,

so Rachel and I are on this threat together. I didn't update the threat about the time, but I shot into the plastic bag though I can't was too embarrassed. You know, what I realized is that so boone and I are also doing Whole thirty together, and we're on a whole thirty text threat. And but now we're we we text each other for everything that goes into our body and is that a lot. Is that too much? I don't think so. Do you? Are you someone who

talks about their poops? Um? Ever since I've met Rachel's definitely at Rachel's a very fecal person. Yeah. I always really respect when someone just talks about their ships. I actually always think it's really cool. I think it's bad, like I just took a ship, But then why don't

you do it for yourself? I do you know? I just have to wander and you know, I have to be kind of trusting and yeah, but I wish I could just be like balls to balls to the ship to the I'm not like I wish I could be like the guy Cross, Yeah, the who just took his shirt off and took a it in the window. Um, what if we took our clothes off for him? I thought I thought you were kind of I thought you were kind of entering into the discussion that we all

kind of do some strip poker all nude. We did an episode where when Josh and Aaron came for their first episode, we all took the whole episode for no reason. It was because we were at that point everyone was wearing hats. Oh yeah, we we I think you were your first time because you're a two time guest. Now that's true. And um, so the first time that you were here where we were, did we demand that you wear a hat? I don't. I don't think we were there for the picture. Yeah, and I mean the first

live I don't think so, honey was a hat. Yes, the hats were were still very much part of the brand. I looked so bad in that hat. It was a big, like musketeer hat. Yes, I think you would look stunning, and I think it would act. Yeah, it would. Now tell us about how you two met and the journey that brought you to friends who, folks, please tell us? Um? Well, Similarly, when I met Nat, I was like, what's his deal? Um? And then everyone was like year in a long term

relationship and I was like, oh, I couldn't work. It wouldn't And that's the only reason that no other reason. Yes, we met at the Williamstown Theater Festival in Massachusetts. Whenever I say that a theater, it's very steem. It is a very esteemed festival. We were both in plays and yeah, we were kind of the people who wanted to drink the most. I think that's how we found each other. Yeah, wanted to drink people really, but you guys really wanted to drink. We we wanted to take it a little

less seriously. I think there were a lot of grad school actors, which is a temple. Yeah, bless them, but yeah, they take their bodies with a lot of respect, and we were kind of the people there who wanted to absolutely destroy our bodies. And from that, Rachel was like, you should do comedy. Yeah, oh yeah, you had never done comedy, and I was like, that's crazy. Comedy is the most lucrative. Yes, there's a lot of money in comedy. I was like, it seems like you're kind of on

the track to become a Broadway actor. Um, and things are really going well for you. Why don't you start doing musical stand up with me? But it's truly the best thing that's out there. In mind, I think it's the best thing that's out there. And I feel like we should just expose the listeners right now. Let's have let's have Rachel and Ned sing a song? Can you sing us a song? We would love to Well. This is from from the album or as a not this is not on the album, um it is. It is

from after we released. We released an album a few months ago, and we then wrote the song as soon as the album was done. Well, the creative process never stopped, never stopped. Remember nineties three. The creative process never stops, never, never stops and never sleeps. No. And so tell us, tell us, abou, you want to talk about this song before you start singing, And yeah, this is this is a song about self care. Yeah, we love that, right, we love that a lot. And this is friends who

folk life can be hard. Sometimes you need to unline. I have an end up in routine to clear my mind. I turn off the lights, silence my phone, because this is the time when I am finally alone, down and close my eyes, and then I think about everything I've ever done wrong. I think about everything I've ever done monk. I remember all my phones and we lift them in my head, and then at three am, I can finally go to bedton. What do you think about at night? I think about the time in second grade when I

threw up on the r table. The teacher was showing us what we were gonna draw, and I threw up on her picture. I could have vomited on the floor, but I threw upon the picture instead, Mrs Gagiano, I'm sorry about your picture. I think about it, yelling hid it keeps me awake. I la down and close my and then I think about everything I've ever done Monk. I think about everything I've ever done wrong. I started at the beginning of a year by year, and before am I pass out? Rachel, do you want to tell

us what you yes? I think about the time a girl in high school told everyone that she thought I was gay, and the reason she gave was that I was too obsessed with Sandra Ball like in the movie Two Weeks. Notice, that's not something I did wrong. That is something she did wrong. But I'm the one who thinks about that every single night. I think about all the things I can't control and how I could have

controlled them. I think about all the things that can't be fixed, and I try to fix them by I think amout them really hard, down and close my eyes, and then I think about everything I've ever done them. I think I about em I scrolled through the Twitter for seven hours and six say I got to work at work. I still feel really bad. I think about the time I see myself I can't. I think about the time I slept with the guy who I knew

was bad, but I sucked him for I hear. I think about how I'm not the only one in the world, and then I feel bad because the world is that. I think about how climate change is really I think about the military industrial will come back. I think about the fact that white women voted for Trump. I think about the nature when I am dead and I want, I want my eyes will eyes will warms my eyes. Oh my god, this is my favorite song. Truly phenomenal. How can I ask you a question? Yeah, this might

sound weird. How does it feel to know like you are so talented? I don't know. I could ask you the same question, but don't. Don't you dare I'm not in the hot. I'm not in the hot. Such great voices, such great writing. I mean, it's all there, the musicality. Thank you so much. Yeah. I think we initially like nerded over our love for music, and then it became like,

funny are our interest in it? Like we both when we were first friends, like would laugh about how we knew really like obscure Joni Mitchell songs, and whenever we saw each other we would kind of sing a little bit of Ladies of the Canyon, or it grew out of like a really genuine love of folk music. Also like I'm such like a study Like I love to be really prepared for things I love. Like I think

that's why stand up. Even though I did it a few times and enjoyed it, it was never the thing that I wanted to do because I love to come being so prepared, like a little harmony Granger. And this is the thing that I know that we can put a lot of work into and that it pays off because the music is good and not like shitty comedy music. It's always going to be a known quantity wherever you go, which is like but like that, but that like it's just a testament to like your writing in this container,

which is like it's a song. Um, it's good. Like the jokes are landing in the right places. It's hitting the audiences here in the right places. That's why reason the reason I like to do music too, it's because I know what it is. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's not like it's what you're saying. It's not like, um, Literally the word I want to write is inebrious. That can't be I don't know what you're trying inebriate. I tell you what what you do? It's not inebrius. That's

what I've always said. What is it? What am I trying to a morphous? I know you, I feel it's not amorphous, It's not inebris. Can you believe a neubrius could be a word your first and only language? This is like really recently, I was trying to think of the word birth the saurus and I kept just thinking pictionary over and you, stupid idiot. I was like, I have to look up. I need I need a new word for this. I need to look it up in a pictionary. HP. Are you looking up if a nebrius

is a word? No? No, I thought. She pulled her phone out like this stupid thing, and she was literally just texting, just get on, this is a nebrius is a word? If not, we need to call someone to make it a word. I think the way you define a nebrius is to be able to be drunk anywhere like I am. And I would say that you're a nebrius. I've seen you drunk in lots of laces. We have been drinking across the country together. We have in Chicago, in Canada, in Austin. Oh, I didn't I have been.

Oh we went to Austin. I didn't go back. Oh I didn't you know that? I was verys and Austin every time I go. Wait, Ned, where have you ever been drunk in Austin. I've never been to Austin, and I don't drink. No, I think you I think I don't. I think Ned is on his way to being in Nebrius. You know what I'm saying so much, I've learned so much about my song. I'm sensitive. I don't like loud noises people asked on my way they feel kind of contradictory.

Oh my god, Wait, people ask what you're dealing. Stop. We've we've put a lot on Ned. I think, well we have to ask Ned the question yes, and we're but what we're gonna say, we're gonna put more on you. So we've already talked to her about this on her episode. We've already had visit this her later though. Well, you can do whatever you want, it's your show. But what I want to do is asking that the question, yes,

now go on. The question is what is the culture that made you say culture is for me, it's the pop culture in your life that was defining. This could be any form of culture and it really is already open to interpretation. How you answer this ned a book, a movie play? Yeah? Um, I think actually Jody Mitchell is like a weird um and like a weirdly early touchstone for me. Like I was like an eight year

old who loved Joy like it was. It was. It was very strange, like I knew all the words to Blue when I was like pen like I was, and I was wearing like overalls and I had like a necklix. I was already a Lady of the Canyon then. Um so I think that was my way, maybe not into pop culture, but into some kind of qulture that's up cold. Maybe a good title of this step would be Ladies of the Canyon. Oh my god, that would be a

dream coming or foking folking Inbria. I love that. On his way to that, we gotta talk about Joanie a little bit. What's your favorite Johny material? Joy? What's my favorite Johnny album? Do you love listening to like older Joan Lately? Or I got offer for a bit too because I I odeed it was so scary. I found him. Yeah, that sounds really scary. Rachel, what happened when you found that Ned had over overdosed on Johnny Mitchell and tell

us walk us through the whole thing. Um well, just as a disclaimer, this joke is in really bad days already in really bad day. I'm not saying it's about to be more in bad taste, but just the fact that it was made in the first place, I think is on my part, very bad. But as we said,

this is Howard Stern. That's something we said before we started rolling, rolling, when we began rolling, when we began rolling, and I said, let's all say something super problematic, and I'm happy to have gotten there only six minutes checked one box. Um but yeah, I just like walked in on Ned. He he was like on the floor in a pile of his own throwing it. Never told me that he was. He was just uh, he was. It was because he had listened to do a bunch of

later Joy after he had really taken over. I think I think that the newer version of both Sides now it's really beautiful. It's beautiful. It makes me kind of sad, like it's a very sad song. Yeah, but because when she wrote it, it was like, Okay, a beautiful song, and then when she did it when she was older, I was like, Okay, now you're on the other side, right, got to the other side of I love her so much.

She was also really formative for me, and I think I feel like the way that Joni Mitchell to me like was my pop culture was that being a huge Joni Mitchell, Crazy Sills, Nation, Young, etcetera fan as a very young kid was like, this solidifies that I will not be like the other girl. I was like, I'm not going to be cool because this is what I like to listen to. Um. But then you know, I found my people there you go. Joanie is that thing though, where it's like it's it's like a north Star for

a lot of people. It's like, I mean it's like it's yeah, it's like you guys said earlier, that's how you guys. You guys found each other. And like, I think she just My favorite thing that Joanie is that she makes you, which makes you more human by listening to Yeah, she definitely is. It's it's she's a poet. Her lyrics are unrivaled. So good and California one of my favorite songs Beautiful, all of Courton Spark, all of Ladies,

of the Ladies, the Canyon. I just cannot overstate how much I love that And it's such and it is a funny song. When we were first becoming friends, we would just sing like really dumb lines from that song to each other, like, and did you did you start writing your material while you were at Wtown or did that continue? Because what happened was your theater festival ended and you said we must stay in in deep touch. Yeah,

we stayed in deep touch. Like for anyone who doesn't know Williamstown, it's like we're touching each other physically, very deeply. But Williamstown is like what three months, two and a half months. Yeah, you're sleeping in like an unair conditioned dorm room in a twin size bed and you're with the same like fifteen people everything, like yeah, who else who? Like Cuckoo was there, Cynthia Nixon was there? Were It was like just the weirdest. You're like, oh, I'm at

the local coffee shop with Cynthia Nixon. Um, but you get like really close to people, uh and it's crazy and then you come out and it's like you've been through a war together. Yeah, it is a cult. So we got out and we're like, we got we got out. We finally got a yeah. Yeah, and then I got I got asked to do a show that was about like political stuff, and I was like, I was like, come write a song with me about politics, and we'll sing our song about politics. And then it went well

and we were like we should keep doing this. Yeah. It happened kind of accidentally, like yeah, someone was like, what are you called? And we had to think of a name. Can you explain the name? Friends? Who folk? It's a pun on fucking yeah. Oh and uh, it's like friends, it's like friends. I'm sorry, I at a little belligerent and Inebrius sorry, Matts Aenebrius. He's just drunk everywhere.

It was drunk everywhere at this moment with a pictionary and you but then you my favorite folking um uh pun is folking lessons, which I think was yeah, oh my god. That was our show where only twenty people came and Bowen and Bowen was the only person laughing and it was such a good show. No, but that was the most generous thing that a friend has ever done. For me was come to my show where truly the only people there were like my mom and her mom both there and weirdly like a table of industry. It

was a great show. Who laughed so loud and it was so nice. It's my favorite step. I remember the first time I saw it wasn't even called Friends who Folk at that point, but it was YouTube. Put a video up on Facebook of you guys singing, we are friends, but we don't have so we don't have sex, and I was like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. My favorite was the first thing we did. Yeah, Yeah, but then like but then like the Friends who Folk as as it is iterated now, is like through that

political show, I think, so. Yeah, that was like when we wrote it, and then when we wrote our first song, and then we just kept writing goods. Yeah. It was like people asking each of us to do shows and hopping and started, Yeah, started with a political song, and then were we just started writing dumber and dumber songs until here we are, And of course we all have our roots in writing dumb songs together and three of us anyway, before before when Ned was very young, yeah,

hadn't even been born you hadn't even been born. Yeah, I think I saw the last show when I was three years proper. Life feels like actually another Yeah, we are not the same people, which is I saw you guys at Union Hall. I do think it was like late our full band shows. Yeah, you know what's crazy that those were those popular shows that we did at Innion Hall were never like crazy well attended. I know,

I go to shows. I feel like every show I go to a Union Hall now is sold out, like and I'm like, did you kind of like pop off in the last two years. I don't know. I still we always do our monthly show at Union Hall, and I love that venue so much. And also we've done shows there that had a lot of people and shows where there were truly no really and I don't know what that just might be us though I did to show they were a year ago with Sam Tigger and

five people came what show was that? And it was we were not clear about what the show was and great we patched it together at the last second. It was a crazy show. I liked that. I liked that you guys announced that you had a show called derbyst and that no one knew what it was. I liked. I like this idea, this new thing of creating a show that doesn't have an identity and saying my tickets to this that I love her. She just loved. She announced, like, Hi, come to my new show. My butt smell like as

my butt smell like shit. You're like, that feels very our brand is left is my my my butt smell like ship is amazing? She opened up. You weren't there, but she opened up for my last Christmas show. She did the funniest character and speaking of openness from my Christmas show also, and I was. I was on the side thinking, this is the comedy that you want that I want to see in the world for me. I um okay, I need to ask, we need to ask, we need to talk more about Joony nod Joan, Joan

over Carol bringing it back to Jon over Caro. Yeah, I mean, I love Carol King. I'm doing this thing that where I'm another and it is toxic, right, never minded to take that back? Did you see that I did? She the musical Beautiful? I didn't. I did. I did. Beautiful is the Orlando theme parks of Broadway show. I want to see it? How dare you say that when King Kong is just streets over, I want to see Kong. Then Moss told me it's scary. Oh my god, I heard it scary because so big, he's a huge cong.

Well that's from what I've heard to Tong I heard. I heard the Kong is absolutely and I even hear the Kong so big and so unwieldy that sometimes the Kong will malfunction like this. It's a Is it a puppet? I think it is. It's like a puppet slash animatronic. It is. It's not act. It is. You've done the Reign of Kong. Uh the Crystal Skull. You've done that right? Yes, okay with the big as King Kong at the end, Yes, that's gag. That was the Gong. That was that Kong

was so big, That cong is huge. I don't quite remember the Kong because it's because you were inebrious. The rest of the ride didn't do it for me though. That many screens, you take too many screen to screens. And also the car is so big. The van is so big that you can be sitting in the middle of it and then you like don't see out the window. That's the thing. Do you like Star Wars? Ned? Do

you know that Disney World's getting Star Wars Land? Yea, so maybe that would be a good There's going to be a ride where you get on the Millennium Falcon. That's what I wanted to do since I was a little boy. I bet, yeah, I bet being a fan of Star Wars that you want to get I'm ready? Yeah, you're ready? Yeah, honestly, what's he's taken? I'm over it? A little tingle on the shoulder. Have you done Avatar? Oh my god? Wait have you seen the movie Avatar?

Of course? Okay, great Corney her star making me famous. It's actually a world of culture. Yeah. I absolutely could not get through that movie without feeling so motion sick. It's a disgusting movie. It's very I was sitting. There are three movies I've had to walk out of because they made me sick to my stomach because of how shaky the camera was and how sick I was. No because I saw that on a oh wait, on a plane. I had to you kid rinkle know. The three films though,

are what the big short? Because it's such a it's such a shaky cam. It made me feel so sick m Avatar, which I would and Precious. I was sitting so close to the screen and it made me feel so sick because it was such a shaky camera. Oh my god, how are you with the favorite? Because I had all that like weirds, I think I was far enough away from the screen that's good and made you feel. I wish I could like do movie reviews somewhere where they're just reviewed based on how motion sick they made me.

It should just be you in the front row of every movie reviewing it that shaky camp as an Orlando bitch. You love the thrill, okay, so the rides that really make me autely you might and I'm sen citizens right, is crazy? The Simpsons, Right, I thought I was going to pass and pass away and I almost passed away on that. I like to close my eyes. Yes, I feel like we need to apologize to Ned for calling him is perfect. No, I am very sense I said

that my way into pop culture was Joanie Mitchell. But we didn't say we didn't mean sensitive in the pejorative at all. What's pejorative like negative? You know? No, I didn't mean pejorative at all. I did not mean that pejorative. I love sensitive that I am actually very soon. We weren't being We weren't being pernicious. I know, I know. Oh my gosh, what a word. What's nets deal? The millennium?

The millennium? J Mitchell? Um, that's great that you were able to be so dynamic as to contain the multitudes of I like Joni Mitchell, but would like to ride and maybe even drive the money and would love to drive it. Yeah, it would be my honor. Now, you guys started writing new stuff as soon as the album came out. Do we have a timeline on the next release,

Oh my gosh, the next album released album? Yes, well, we have to keep writing and then we also have to just raise capital as they stay in the biz to pay for an album. Yeah, it does. It all just go to like to studio stuff. Yeah. We recorded our first album at a studio called the Relic Room Studio where we also record the Story by Its podcast and uh, we just like want in the same vein of like wanting the music to sound like a music we wanted to be recorded. Well, yeah, that's a good studio.

It's a great studio. Okay, I think it's a great great. Great. I've started to realize that asking people about process is like impossible because basically all you're asking is how, oh I read this? I read I read lesson like I love Did you read it? Read it bad? Have you read it? I think Matt, you should read it. Matt would love it. I think you would do. What is

it about? It's a game and a game, and it's it's a about this um, this gay author who is turning fifty and he's having this like a bit of a midlife crisis around like aging is like a gay man, and then his ex lover is getting married. He starts freaking out. So then he goes on this book tour around the world in order to escape that and like to think about what it means to like go into middle age. And then it's like a really beautiful meditation on that. Yeah, it's really funny. It's so funny. It's

really funny. I love that it's a book about what it's like to feel sorry for yourself well also recognizing that it's shitty to feel sorry for yourself when you have a lot of privilege. Yes, yeah, I think it grapples with that very well, where he's like, I don't matter,

and I don't deserve to feel this way. But the thing is, like I've this is something that I've sort of like come around and is like, no, like we're not walking around thinking while I shouldn't feel bad because I'm so privileged like that, Like it's still you're still in a lived in experience where it's like I'm going through a shitty time that has, for the most part,

might not have to do with my identity. I mean maybe it mean, of course it does, but it's that actually is more harmful to say, let me ignore my feelings because it's it's because because they could be worse. Yeah, I think you make yourself sick. Yeah, yeah, well that's exactly I do think that. Like the complexities of all of that is what that book is about. And also it's funny and sweet and the ending is an incredible love story. Is sexy you have to not sexy? It's

pretty sexy. Yeah, some it's not, like it's not shades, but like what happens in that book, like yeah, kind of a contemplative inner look at like privilege and and

also what it's like to put an egg in your vagina. Famously, we went to go see Fifty Shades of Gray when it came out with an A Dresden on Valentine's Day, Anna Dresden and I'll never forget the moment when three quarters of the way through the film, after eight hundred sex scenes, a little boy in the back of the theater was like, Daddy, I need to go to the bedroom. Everyone everyone in the theater was like. Everyone screamed. It was. It was the most cathartic thing we've ever been a

part of. It was so funny, it was very hilarious. Everyone was horrified, just like you. I love nothing more than a gasp prom It just washed over the whole audience. It was so fabulous. That's so terrible fabulous. And speaking of washing over an audience, I think that it's time for you to wash another song over us your audio. Oh my god, what a dream. The thing about this song is that it's incredibly niche. Don't don't niche? What

is it? Because I always said niche and then people say niche like as two niche people, we can tell you that it's when people as two people. You are constantly told by TV networks and that you which means gay. When did you come out as niche general two years ago. Did your parents have a hard time like accepting that you were. Yeah, they were like for a long time.

It was harder than when I came out it's gay. Yeah, my parents were like, we're sending you to an ex niche therapist in Colorado Springs and it's like really informed my identity as an adult. Um. Now, tell us about this niche song. Well, I don't want to say too much about it, but it is a prayer. Yes, And you guys are very religious. We are act fremely religious. It's a big part of what we do. Yeah, we sort of haven't touched on that, but we're both like

very Christian. Yes, well, God's real. God is real, and I hope you're ready for us to take you to church. Thank you. This is Friends with. She SIPs the dry martini in the corner she has and smiles at the major they candle light flickers cross her velvet bowler hat. Who is she? Patty lavel La Lie La Lie Light Lie Lie Lie Light Li Li Li Li Lil blatty Lave, Patty Lave. It's just another Wednesday night at Suraty, just another grueling to show day. She limply gives a wave

to an old friend across the dining room. Bad friend is Victor Garber La La La Li Light Li Light Lie Light Light La Lie Light Lie Light. Patty Love Patty Love, pon one, Patty and Lapone. In nineteen forty nine, she went to Junieard Group one. She's been in everything from Gypsy to leys a Hobbler. The most importantly, Lie, you think it's lawn order. That feels like kind of homophobic for musical theater star Patty Lapone. Excuse me, you're

calling me homophobic. It is actually extremely sexist of you to think that a woman could be homophobic. Plus, she's very known for law in Order, like she has a guest starring arc on spuk Okay, what's her character's name? If you're such a fan, Wow, Ruth Miller a d A bitch Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie, Ruthe Miller bay By Batty Love. She looks around the bar. It's time to pack it in. She turns to her friend Shawn,

a twenty four year old game. She says, if there's one thing that I have learned in my career, it's called me a fucking cab. I'm Patty lovel Li Li Li Li Li Li, Batty Love, Baddy Love, everybody live, don't cry for me, Daddy love. Oh my gosh, thank you for singing with us that I forgot the words for a second. But that's the magic of live theater, the live podcast. Where does that come from? Did you actually observe Patty lapon in her natural habitat of sartis?

I actually did see Patty Laponent's sardis. It was actually one of the crazier celebrities. Iding like it was the most predictable actually to see Patty Loon, It's already meaningful but me, but I was like, I'm usually not that shocked by seeing a celebrity in New York, but seeing Patty the pone in a bowler hats like real icon.

Well you know what it is. It's when I think about when I see a celebrity, I'm like, have I have I seen this person in a room with hundreds, if not thousands of people where we're all focused on this one person, and now am I like within feet of them? If the answer is yes, and I'm like, this is crazy and this is so overwhelming that like someone who has been so that I've seen so on display in my room. Yeah, suddenly I'm like within feet

of them. I'm like, oh, that's nuts. I don't know, that's my that's my weird thing with well, it feels crazy to see famous people like at all. Something Like I've seen famous people where I'm like, yeah, I mean, obviously this famous person exists, and then others where I'm like, it's actually impossible to me that they're a flesh of

blood person that's standing here. Patty is one of those people when you see a celebrity mule couple times, like in person, You're like, that's not the same person I saw, but it fully is like I've seen Kelly Clarkson in person ten or eleven times, and I think she might keeping replaced, Oh my god, but it is like Kelly I saw in Los Angeles and she was fully different and she but she was the same Kelly Clarkson that we saw at the view And yet there she was,

and yet that she was. It's just crazy that she's out there living a life right now because I loves I like, Patty Lapone is doing something right now, right now. That's so, are you guys, Patty Fans of her but I'll say this, Um, I'm a huge Patty Lapone fan. But the one time I saw her stage was a matinee of Gypsy, and I felt like I didn't live up to what I wanted. I loved her in Gypsy and saw it twice. Someone told me something saw her and something and she had a cold, and she was, Oh, yes,

where is okay? Then tell the story. I saw Gypsy. I saw Gypsy on Broadway twice, and the second time she had a cold and she held a tissue the entire time and incorporated it. And she famously like doesn't ever, like she never calls out of shows, So she was sick and still went and she just incorporated this tissue into the character and would kind of like blow her nose and sneeze and very Juilliard and it was amazing. Thirty years at the beginning. Yeah, Mama Rose, and stop

taking pictures. I just love her so much. She does the most iconic performance I think at that Kennedy Center honors Barbara Cook. Oh my god, Yes, I'm gonna love you like nobody loves you. Come right, you know I didn't do it right. She's amazing. She's amazing. She she's you know what, the best part my favorite part of about Patty. My favorite thing about Patty is that she's amazing in interviews, an incredible watch what Happens Live interview

before Madonna mana movie killer. Yeah, and then she described like the first time they ever met, and and like she she said that Madonna only said to her, I'm taller than you. Oh my god. I saw in War Paint too, which was like that was paint. I felt that that was the story of me and Bowen. Yeah,

we were a show called Knights that was very okay. Yes, actually I saw the first Night Soap and okay, well first and anyone, I hope no one listening worked very hard on War Paint because I will say Night Soap was like good War Paint. I felt that, even though I didn't see War Paint were the whole time. The songs in Night Soap were more memorable than the songs in War Pain, which we didn't have any There were

not any song. There was a fight scene, there wasn't with a break with break and gun in space we have to do that was amazing, Thank you. I can't believe we did it once for like seventy people Night Soap was a play that Bow and I wrote for Arsenalva and Fest two years ago. Two years ago where yeah, where we played UM two women, um a warring matriarchs

of two chocolate dynasties. I was Barbara Hershey, who was also the actress, and I was Nesley, And basically what happened was they were old, old, old friends who came up with a patent for a chocolate that could be edible in space, transportable and edible in space. But the thing is like their husbands were constantly having conflict because they were Mr Hershey and Mr Nesley, and so they were like, well, let's get together and like sort of

like figure this out because the men certainly can't. And over the course of the first scene, which is the first act, you find out that was that I was sucking yourself. I was sucking her son. And then then the communication breaks down and it's not until second act in the Alps and A where we see each other again. This show was so funny. Thank you. It's truly, I keep saying this, It's the only thing that I look

back on that I'm like proud of that. Like two months ago and I was like this holds up, you think, so, yeah, it needs to. And then of course the third act spoiler alert, takes place in space and there is a fight to the death and we have a full space were wearing body body, and then there's a there's a twist ending that I'm so proud. There's a huge twist ending. The people gasped, yeah, I was shocked. We won't spoil it because you guys should do it again or maybe

that's your that's what you that's your niche pitch to networks. Yes, literally with one production company I will not say which, and I described the idea and they were for they liked it. Okay, I'll tell you who it was later, but maybe it'll be on some sort of niche network near you sometimes. Okay, but this was going to get me into my thing before we talked about less and this is actually a great segue into your guys writing process.

And like the thing that they say and less is like, what else is there to ask a writer except how like I feel like, do you guys have a streamlined way of like writing your stuff or is it like more like just like you guys are playing around with different ideas? Um both, Yeah, I feel like it's often it has often been that we we have like an idea and kind of with that idea like a genre, or we're like that's the Sarah McLaughlin's or what where it is, and then we kind of riff on that.

But then we also there's also been ones where like we have an idea and it's a little more fully formed and then we help the other like bring it to life. But it's often us like really just at

a guitar and with a computer open, like improvising stuff. Yeah, because sometimes it's like sometimes it will be me being like I want to write a song about about how like treating like staying up all night worrying about stuff is a is like a type of self care, Like let's write that and then we'll sit down and write it. Or it'll be ned being like, can we write a

song about the movie step Mom? And then and then we'll do that, or like we just did we just wrote a song about Marie Condo that was literally because that was like making fun of me for doing and he was like, I just like what you're doing whole is the whole? Yes, yeah, but no, I think I also believe in you I think, thank you so much. I'm trying to change my life and you are actively keeping me no. I want, I want, I really want you to change your life. We all does really need

you to change change your life. But Ned was like, I just like, I think that I just want Marikondo to like come over and scream at me. And then like we're like, well, that's the whole song, and then we wrote it in. It just feels like everyone wants Marie Conda to really like dumb right now, you should be able to do that one. We could try. We could try to do it right now, trying to do a little quite Okay, I'm going to forget. I'm going to forget the words what's our key? Okay, let them

do it. You gonna come with us. I want to scream at me and tell me that I've been bad, bad. I want Marie Condo to write a letter to my parents and tell them I'm a messy piece of ship. I want Marie Condo to convict me of a crime I didn't come in and put me in jail for my whole life. I want Marie Condo to look me dead in the eyes and say, you don't spark joy. I'm gonna, don't you watch. I want Marie Condo to scream at me and tell me that I've been a

bad bad boy. I want Marie Condo to drive me to a jump and throw me in the dump and then I'll find may be free beef free. Yes, okay, we sort of know the lric that I like that news friends to a folk song and also I vividly pictured someone looking I think this would be a good reality show, but recondable with friendships. So it's like you have to look someone in the eye. It's like you've decided that out of your five friends, three of them

don't spark joy to them. You have it seems so excited to do that, like you have friends, but you have too many friends. I think that's called boundary. I love I've I've reconded my room too, I did. Did you like it? But I do? I believe in it. I believe I think it works. I think you're the way you're living spaces organized as a direct reflection of your mentor whole state, and it's it's helped. Yeah, I

don't know. I just like I did the whole thing where I put everything on my bed, went through the stuff I wanted to keep. And I'm honestly thinking that like all these good wills in churches, in places, these donations, places are like overwhelmed right now. Yeah, I'm just tossing in the trash. Is that bad? Yes? I don't want them to go to I don't think that's great. I think the idea is not the way to go. But like projection, yeah, I feel like the soup kitchen, Like

they're getting a lot of monetary donations right now. So I'm just taking my money and I'm burning it. Not no, this is the thing. It's not that I'm bringing. If I were bringing money to the good will, be like, no, I understand what you're saying. I think that it's fine because I think that I think it's fine to take

stuff there, even if they are overwhelmed. They think a lot of those places have the means to recycle sure textiles, and a lot of these places, a lot of the good wells I hear just toss most good they just throw it in the garb. They do. They do. That's very You're performing a surface. I am h and them recycles used textiles. Oh I should have done that. I think it's fine, I've definitely thrown like old underwear and like it doesn't matter I have. I mean, I save

all my old underwear. I throw it in a basket to save it for dinner. I save it for dinner. I can't get enough of the stuff. Whole thirties, whole whole eating. Yeah, because I'm even thirty beers of underwear this month, and that's you're glowing, and that's sometimes it gets really late at night and I feild my stomach talked around and I'm like, I really want to eat my underwear, right, but you can't because it's one a day.

I have a service coming tomorrow to pick up all the clothes that I'm Marie condoed because I did it with my clothes. I did before the documentary. I did it before anyone was even talking about it. I did it weeks ago. Aren't you cool? Aren't you that it's a reality? It's yeah, who is? I think she is stunning And I think she's the nicest. She's the sweetest soul on the planet. Doesn't judge anybody. Yeah, it's like she loves kids. She loves kids. She's like, Okay, we'll

work through this. Has helped it helped this gay couple. It was so cute. My god, I love her. I also love I love that the show. I love she speaks in Japanese, which I love. I love that. It's like, you're going to watch subtitles. We're not like forcing this. It feels very like an Unamerican thing to let foreign person just speak their native tongue in a popular show.

You know what. It also feels very Unamerican about it, Like the week it came out last week, like all these people I was talking to, all these people I was talking to, were like, it just feels like it just feels like it's it's the same thing over and over again. There's no conflict. I'm like, yeah, that's okay. It's very British. It's British. It's very Asian for this thing to be like, you're just going to watch these people improve their lives and not put up a fight.

They're just going to be like, oh yeah, it's just as easy as folding your clothes specific way and putting it somewhere else and like putting our papers in a box. Great, and then like that's it and they're happier. Yeah, Americans love to be traumatized by television, and I get and that's me, Like, I love that's me. I love to be absolutely traumatized every time I watched TV. But it's a nice reprieve. Do you like trauma? Trauma is going to be big and it's going to feel great. Yeah,

I love like hard dramas. TNT we know trauma? You just asked trauma welcome. Do you like trauma? Are you a fan of trauma? Do you like comedy, drama or trauma? I'm actually writing a new hour long trauma. I'm writing a trauma traumama. Yes, it's where you really dig deep and then write like a whole show about your butt hole for no reason. Why aren't you guys going to have kids? Who says we don't? Oh, we had kids together,

and that was the first part of the collaboration. We said, if we're going to do this, we need to have created something first. You know. I'm in this place now where I saw I saw my sister with with my beautiful niece, and I was like, niece, gorgeous niece, but one of the top five nieces. I'm like, I don't think I want this. I literally the other day decided I didn't want children. What was the deciding factor for you? Okay?

I watched like a parent and his son run across the street and the sun like accidentally, like ran a little bit in front of his dad, and his dad knocked him over and the kid blopped on the ground, and the dad did that thing of like freaking out because he thought the kid might have been hurt, but the kid was absolutely fine, and then he freaked the kid out and the kids started screaming, and I was like, God, I can't do this because I'd be knocking my kid

over all the dude off fucking day, Get out of my Yeah, I'm going where I'm going. You never walk in front of a star. No, don't walk in front of the Yeah. That's the thing is, it's like I would want my kid to have their daddy be a star. Yeah. I feel I feel like really crazy that if I

have kids, they're parents will work in entertainment. I don't know if you have if I had kids, Like, I just feel like parents are supposed to be like accountants and lawyers and like actuaries, which is like what my dad did, like a very boring job that I never could describe or understand, and the fact that if I have kids, they're going to have to be like my parents are, like writers or whatever. It makes me feel sick to my that's interesting. My dad does most fatal murder. Yeah,

my dad. My dad actually hosts the Onion podcast, which is in its um fiftieth season, and he makes a million dollars a second. But that's my dad, you know. And yet you still try for baby. Yeah, I'm constant trying right now. We're trying in this whole time. Yeah, you're doing that thing of like trying to, you know, make it, make it get there and make it swim. I saw lot who's talking? I know that when you have sex and animated sperm swim one of the great songs,

A classic. I've never seen it either. Well, it has a disgusting animation. It's really bad. Inception what they call it. They call it when you get pregnant, a neebrious inception, not pejorative. Ned and Ethan. Oh no, this is really. Are you guys married, engaged? Maybe something has been together. We've been together for like three and a half year. You don't think you want to get married? Beautiful or very joy Yeah? Blue, Yeah, that was all about not

wanting to get married. Um, yeah, I don't know. I definitely want I like love kids, and I often see kids and I want them like hypothetically, but if I actually check in with like the nitty gritty of what have a kid would be. And I have nieces and I love hanging out with him and then giving them back, and I think that's enough. I told Sudi. I was like, I I will be like the very fun uncle of your kid. Because we were talking about this the other night.

We were all hanging out, me, Bone and Sudie. We're watching TV and we were saying, like, I told that story about how I watched this kid got knocked over by his dad and like, dealing with that emotional situation is not something I'm wanting. And it's like I feel like now, like I'll be twenty nine, Like I think at some point if I if I really wanted kids, like I would have started thinking about it more. And Sudi is someone who's always known she's wanted the children.

It's like like either no, deep down in your heart you want them, or you don't. Yeah, there's there's that Nikki Glazer joke that I think it's really funny where she's like everyone wants a kid, but like you need to tell people that, like, yeah, that cute baby is just gonna be like a guy named Doug, like like like that's the reason why the why we exist is because their parents were like, we want a kid, we want a baby, we want to baby, but they just

become a shitty adult. But then you just you don't realize that a dog, yeah yeah, but then like but then like most babies become like dogs. But isn't that really there's something real about that where it's like you're putting out a life into the world and then like that you're so responsible for the way that that person moves through it. It's like, or your baby could grow up to become Glenn Close, Oh my god, can you imagine? That's like always the anti abortion people though, they're always

like what if that? What if your kid grew up to be like could win a Golden Globe for the wife? Your kid could cure cancer or win a globe. I would love to have a son who is obsessed with me, though I think you're going to I would love a Gayson. You would want a ges No, I said, no, no, no, this isn't family. This is the family. The families don't where I'm like, I wouldn't want a gay son, No, I would love any sort of child um who was obsessed with me. Yes, Now, I truly think we would

all make great parents. I think I would a child together, you guys. I think I would be a good father. But it's you know, it would just mean a lot of sacrifice, of course. Yeah. But there's this thing too, with with Chiel saying it's like, I don't know if it's fair for the kid, for us, for us to be like we are, we're fucking idiots and where we we we make father and I yea your father and I we we make our we make a living, like just sticking around and being on podcasts. Yeah, I like

that we're going to be making our living off of intent. Yeah, I'd be like, this is this is this is no hope for the future. Everything anyone has said, a friend, my court is going to be, you know, struggling forever. Here's son. Here's the most successful thing I did when I when I've been doing comedy. It's called Hottest Female up in Houville. I think about that song everything. It's so good, so good. But I was just thinking about the fact that like having to explain to my offspring

that I was doing maybe they'd be proud. Maybe I'd have to the coolest, most alternative kids. All kids are obsessed with Grinch jokes. All kids I'm thinking about getting into the alt kid world. They've got their finger on

the pulse. Yeah, kids are so cool now, Like that's the thing is, I feel like the generational divide between us and our kids is going to be like somehow even further than our parents and us, because they will have grown up with the Internet and they're going to be so cool and they're going to make us feel um shitty about being so old but mean while we're the ones where we think ghosts. Yeah, Like isn't it crazy because it's like all our lives, we thought we

were the ones who were like the most advanced. It's just like how it happens with every generation. But it's like in terms of technological advancements, like I thought we were the ones who were like at the front line. And also like acknowledging the fact that we aren't the people who are like up to date with like what's going on in technology right now. You know what I mean, like like or acknowledging you're out of touching anyway, like

the fact that like like we did. We were at Seek Treatments show last night and they have this whole bit like what's post Malone? Like I don't know what post Malon is, but you know who does millions? And it's hard to it's hard to think famously very young. I saw it into the Spider Verse, so I know, so did I And I felt like a kid, like an old kid, and like their YouTube stars who like have who make millions of dollars a year and I've never heard of them. It's really it's really spooky to

be so old. It is absolutely no, I really do I. I see what you're saying, though, I think it's very true. Did you find out what post Malogne is singer? Yeah, he's like this one person I thought it was. He's kind of a lot of face tattoos. Yeah. I liked his song that was in into the Spider Verse though, oh what ahead of go? It's Sunflower. It's the one that sounds like m I A paper Planes but is not. That's fun. Yeah, that sounds good And I loved into the Spider verse. I did too. It was like cool,

it was really really fucking beautiful. I want to ask you guys a question. So there was a Stone article which was the number like the top one hundred most influential songs of um U two thousand two now pop songs or like any genre. What do you think was number one? Like the number one most respect And it was like a rolling Stone article and it was like, um they they asked music journalists and musicians and everyone in the music industry, like they all voted and what

do you think the number one? It was pop, R and B country, like it was all songs that have come out as like major releases and like since the year two thousand, didn't this song Outcast was up there, but it was paper Planes was really up there to paper Planes, and and there was I think, hey, yeah, we're both in the top five. Yeah, yeah, it feels was it Hit Me Baby one More Time? No? It was crazy in Love. I said, that actually is a really good because even ther donut like it's iconic. Yeah,

I love that song. Isn't it where you that? That was her very first single and yet it kind of pretty much still is her most iconic song. That I think it is. Well, I mean, in terms of this article, they say it is, and I think that if if you were to announce you would kid kids would say Formation, which was also on the list. They'd be like, I've never heard of Crazy and Love. Yeah, a really alter kid, A really annoying answer to that question will be someone

that's like irreplaceable. No one would say No. People would, and they would do it to be annoying. Like a lot of people, especially real question number forty, A lot of people are really annoying and they would say things like that. I mean, maybe it's just like that, what year did Crazy and Love come out? I just two thousand? Yeah, that makes sense. I feel really nostalgic for like that. It was so great to do. Yeah, growing up during nine eleven was really cool. It was so great to

be a thirteen year old post nine eleven. Um, okay, let's go around. Where were you when When I've told my nine eleven story about how I demanded my mom take me to the I told her I was like, I thought she took me out of class early because we were going to knew how excited I was because I've been talking about it for weeks and the Glitter album had come out that day, and I was like, okay. They were like Matt Rogers for earlier, just Missle and I was like, that's weird. And my teacher was like,

uh huh. And I went downstairs and I was like, this is not so we could go to Glitter. This was this was before it was nine eleven, It was after the It was after both had hit, and my mom came to get me and I told this on the pod. This is the little hole I'm gonna poke. Um. They didn't just dismiss all of you guys know we were not No, that's not the way they and on Long Long Island. And they also didn't tell the kids that had happened. Yeah, they had the same thing and

you were released. You got they got out of early. They didn't tell us, but they were like everyone goes sick. I found out because I went upstairs. I had banned class and I left my trumpet in my home room and so I go up and then the TV was on. No one was in the room, but it was people running away from from the second tower being hit. And then I just was like, oh my god, something is happening. Yeah,

Oh my God, they did not tell us that. That was like a controversial thing that people were talking about in the weeks afterwards. That was like whether or not they should have let everyone know, But the fact of the they didn't want to say anything over the loudspeaker because because honestly, I was from the island and it's very possible that someone could have had someone that worked there, you know what I mean, Because then then you panic the kids, you know what I mean. And I think

that is the right thing. I think it was the right call. That is true. Yeah, they didn't tell us, but then everyone was like I heard, because we weren't like on lockdown, and they were like, I heard that there's a dead body in the dumpster outside of school, And then everyone was gossiping about that. So then when we all found out what really was happening, I was like, that's so shitty that everybody was getting excited about a dead body outside the school and really it was so

much work. Um yeah that I'm sorry. I can't believe. That feels actually like I'm in hell. Well it is time for I don't think I don't think they're so. I don't think so, honey, is our little segment that we do UM to take one minute to rant aget something in pop culture UM that we hate. And Last Culture is going on tour with I don't think so honey.

Tickets are on sale now online. You can go to my website under the show's page, and also the Last Culture is this page Matt Rogers Comedy dot com to get tickets to um our shows because we do not have a website. And that's cool, and that's cool. It's really niche of us to not have a website or or a place where you can essentially go to UM find us. Okay, I actually have a thing I could do. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey that

you can't eat before you go to bed. That's when it feels the best. And that's what I'm the hungry at. I don't know about you, but I wake up at roughly to thirty pm every day and I am not hungry, honey. So that means my lunch happens at about seven and then am I eating dinner at eleven thirty pm roughly? And that is also when I smoke, so I don't think so honey, that smoking makes you so hungry, and I don't think so honey the whole situation, because I

feel that that's when it feels. The best to be full is when you can eat a lot and then lay down in your little bed and make yourself so warm and feeling warm and full are a great combination and also high. So this is what the only things I like to be together. But now guess what is

turning on me? My body. So I have been in the gym and unfortunately, um, it is incredibly difficult to lose that little tiny moment in the belly because I have no impulse control and I don't want to do I don't think so honey that my body is um not eighteen. And that's one minute. I'm just saying it's funked up that you can't eat before you go to bed. That you can, but it's not good for you, right, It sucks that, Like the actual best thing to do for your body is like stop eating at seven, because

the most luxurious time to eat is like midnight. And you know many places in Europe they eat their sana very late at night. Spain Las Sena in Spain, we were taught that culturally they have like a large dinner at like ten pm. Yeah. We I just went to Spain this year last year, and we would make reservations at eight thirty, being like we're very Pian and then get there and there the restaurant and the culture very late.

It's like at five o'clock the restaurants are like all German tourists, and then at eight it's all, that's so funny. When are they going to get the national news flash that that's not good for them? I don't know. Maybe their bodies are just like evolved. Have you been eating? I've been eating late at night onle thirties. I've been trying not to. You know. What was the real kicker for me was when we know what you say? Was when we postmate we had was when we postmated McDonald

That was the best. That was my best idea. At one in the morning, we were we were at have you heard of Christmas? And then we were like, I haven't eaten? Yeah, And then you guys left that bag of McDonald's up in the Duke books you Oh no, that was me and I threw it out. People drag Queen was making fun of it. Fat bitch, the drag queen was like her name was. I thought she was called that's that's that's from dirty rock. That was that was.

That was under Tracy Jordan's movies. He played a dog. Well, we got stuck in a drug show and then I left really fast, and I did leave the McDonald's and I was left to deal with the bag. It was a bag full of my dignity. I just want to eat McDonald's again. Well, last time I did Lost Culture, we were eating chicken. Honestly, we ate the whole episode long, and I famously hate when we eat yang chomps and slumps. Right, wait, are chicken? There's absolutely no way. Oh my god, they're made.

They're made of which this whole thirty underwears whole thirtyes so is garbage. Okay, well, if you say so, it's time for Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey, Bowen yangs. I don't think so, honey. On this episode with the friends who folk this time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Lip bomb, lip bomb. You are trash and it's it should just be the same across the fucking board. And yet we have all these different types of lip bomb, give me birds bees. That should be the one and

the only. I don't need all this other chapstick, medicated chapstick, high intensity moisture. Bitch. It is all a graft for marketing and I see it, Bit, Big lip Bomb, I am going to destroy you this year in I'm taking down Big lip Bomb. I'm releasing my own line of lip bomb. And it is unbranded. It's just one kind of lip bomb. There's no variety. It's the one that

works for everybody because all lips are the same. Say it with me, stop now, if you are gonna if I will start, I will actually start a go fund me to make a new lip bomb that is the Bang lip Bomb. And I I bet you can bet your as that I will have a list this year. I think that you should have the Boone Yang lip bomb. And I'm gonna have my Fragrance Gayson by my Gayson and then and don't you have like an ad for this? Yeah,

it's going to be an ad for my Fragrance. I love that you don't understand them, but you can smell like him. What is the scent um? It smells like weed? And come, oh my God, Okay, that was fabulous. I don't know, though, I I feel like I see you use lip bomb, but that's also probably why you feel I love lip bomb. I think the marketing around it is insane and there shouldn't be so many different varieties

when all lips are the same. Okay, this is we're gon, We're gonna go to Rachel and then we're gonna end with I thought a lot about this is. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. Okay, I don't think so, honey. Stools um, stools are like the evil bitch step cousin of chairs, which are a far superior genre of sitting furniture. I have a big, gifted and talented ass and it simply does not fit on a stool. Is not comfortable. There. Ten minutes into sitting on a stool,

my ass is going, no, thank you. I love couches, sofas, chess lounge, fainting couch. Oh yes, stools, no, you know what my ass makes stools. Stools is another one for ship. For me, shit is a yes. But fortunately stools no stools are terrorism. I'll say it. I'll say it now. Making a fat bitch stools is that gifted and talented as big Listen, you are incredibly fecal, and I think that woman have a lot That was actually a line in night soap. You vile fecal woman. I do feel

that way. Well, that's good that you feel this way. To be clear for everyone listening, though, if anyone ever overheard me shitting, I would be fucking mortified. Oh if you ever want to get over someone, listen to them pop. Oh my god, it's easy. If you ever want to get over across, just realize that they have poops. They have pops, and you're not gonna want to get their butt anymore after that, because I think about eating on the butt, size says, I think about positive and I

can't believe that. I don't now your issue with stools that they don't have backs is that the main thing they don't have backs, which is so uncomfortable. Could go off queens. I love to go off on stools. I'm five but eight. If my feet don't have anywhere to go on a stool, your stool too tall, Dragon sane. The tall stools are the craziest. There's no practical reason.

And I slouch so badly, and there's just no feasible way to not slouch on, Like, it's so much effort to sit up straight on a stool that doesn't have a back, And then if your stool does have a back, I'm like, fuck you, why don't you just make a chair? Oh my god. People who sit up straight on stools are insane. Their cops, they're cops. They are Thank you, Rachel. That was really important with you, that was really important. I'm just trying to live my life in a way. Yeah,

thank you. Okay, Now this is Ned's I don't think they read yes, and I don't think I've never I'm ready Ned's debut, I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't think so, honey. The masked singer, what is it? Why does it exist? You're hiding someone in a Liberaci animal costume, and then once they take off the costume and reveal their identity, I still don't know who the are. No one wanted to know what it would feel like if Donnie Darko could sing Living

Levita Lokar? Are we that starved for ways to distract ourselves from the slow death of civilization that we have to pour millions of dollars into a kinky parlor game for struggling celebrities. Jenny McCarthy is an anti vax or. Hannon said he is a proud of how Kevin Hart handled the Oscars controversy. Robin Thick made blurred lines. How did this happen? The Masked Singer can only have been

created by people who are deeply sexually unfulfilled. The people who created the Masked Singer furries resisting their kink, and it's going to ruin their lives. I don't think so, honey, the Masked Singer. I will probably watch it at some point and enjoy it. Take then by the thrill of garade, I will wait out the apocalypse watching Mr Bean emerged

from an energizer bunny costume. Very good, very good. We just watched The Singer last night for the first time, and we discussed it on another And it actually is the dumb It's actually bad. You want it, you want to like it for how bad it is. But I kind of loved it though it is Rachel, you idiot,

very famously. I have bad taste too, and I'm telling you, like even I couldn't get an I liked it, but I was also like, this genuinely feels like I wish that they unmasked the singer and then murdered them in front of an audience. That feels like it feels on game. It feels like the Hunger Games, So why not go the extra mile? Exactly like I want to see the b Lister get brutally murder. The judges are in saying I can't believe Robin McCarthy, So, um, I were right

off the slope. We're recording this in January, but yeah, I mean like maybe by maybe by next month, it'll feel like it'll get to a different cultural place, but like right now, it feels truly insane. The way they guess is so funny too, because they're like, I'm sensing like Beyonce, Yeah, they guess last night, where I was like they're not. Oh, someone was like it's Jimmy Buffett. I know it. I'm like, it's like he just sang for us, and it's like, you know that's not right now.

I would love them, Like if people like Jimmy Buffett, I'd be like if it was They do this whole bit with clues where they give out clue it's a package do you think one of them is LaToya Jackson, and I think one of them is Ricky Lake. I was also reading, I was reading rumors that that one of them is Tory spelling me a lot of sense to me. We love this show. We're going to we're gonna be talking about it though. It will be a

topic of conversation. It's going to be water cooler talking because it's it's and it's going to be a textbooks someday as the friends Ferdinand assassination, yea world. Well, they're dressed like France for I just can't believe the costumes. The costumes are insane. I think they're stunning. There's one, there's one they are. There's a rumor that Margaret Show is one of them. What it's like the pink pooding singing, so you know who knows she does sing? She's she's

I mean, she's got she's booking work though. Yeah, she's that's on the mask and it's on the masks finger. She's on high maintenance. She's got a thing coming out. She's not they're working. I mean, all this being said, like, I'd absolutely love to write a packet and do like get staffed on the Masked Singers. Oh yeah, season two writers to do on that show. Yeah, um, well, there we go. We've had all of her. I don't think so Honey's were discussed the Messinger. We've had so much culture.

We found out neds um culture and it's time. And we've heard three songs, including one world debut, which they call a song the first time that you do it on the first time we do a podcast, it's a world. We've created new words, which is something that we do at last. Culture is that's in us is now on the cultural lexicon, and we've created many many cultural movements and new rules. And now I think that we are left with no choice but to hear one more song

from the friends who Folk. But before we get into this, where when are you guys performing? What the hell is going on? So we try to do a roughly monthly show at Union Hall in New York City. Baby, Um, I believe we have a show. The next show after this airs will be March seventh at eight pm at Union Hall. And we also do have an album and an Instagram. We're trying to get like we're trying to be on stage more on the internet. Yes, that's good.

That's good. Yeah, yeah, you should be more pictures. Yeah, is all about pictures. I agree, Thank you, thank you. Um well, tell us a little bit about this song and then take us into it. Um So, this song is about being in love making promises someone you love. Thank you. I haven't been the same since I met you, and I forget my own name when I am with you, and I will love you till I die, and when I die. I have a very simple request. Make sure the Minions do a dance at my funeral. Make sure

the minions do a dance at my funeral. Make sure the minions do a dance at my funeral. That would be really cool. I will never leave your side againthin until I die, and only, and on a better death, I'll squeeze your hand and with my dying breath, remind you of what I always wanted. Insist that the Minions do a dance at my funeral. In is that the minions do it andce at my funeral, and if they refuse, say it is my funeral and that will be really cool.

People tell me the minions arm futer enemy characters in a show, but I know that the Minions are action minias. The dance can be super simple. I don't want the millions to have to learn corrio. It's mostly just armed stuff. A lawyer put this in my will. They should have one rehearsal. Please have the Millions to adends at my funeral. The minions from the movie Minions should be at my funeral. Please have the millions to at ends at my funeral. That would be really cool. Make sure the Millions do

at ends at my funeral. Make sure I want to funeral. Make da I've been writing a day. It's make sure the millions do a dance. That would be super cooling than folke me me poke me m h folke me please foke for me