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"Jester Flop Bestie" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Jan 13, 20211 hr 20 min
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As 2021 begins with a flop, America is not the only institution in upheaval. Immediately in conflict, Matt and Bowen rage at each other about recent culture consumption. Ultimately, Matt has promised to watch 90 Day Fiancée and Bowen will listen to the song "driver's license". So, watch this space. Like they do, Las Culturistas immediately put their differences aside to catch up on culture, and there is a lot to discuss: the attempted insurrection, Trump's ban from Twitter, conclusions on this season of Real Housewives of Potomac, and the beginning of a new season of Drag Race! All discussed! Also, the boys declare their two 2021 missions for the pod: to get Natalie Portman as a guest and to "top Marc Maron". All this, Bowen's review of JAWS, Matt's review of The Sound of MusicRise of Skywalker and Star Wars at large as enjoyable soap opera space camp (and not more than that, nerds!), and... finally... thoughts on TaylOR SwifT's newest album evermore. What would Fran Lebowitz think of the culture you consume? Scary question, scary times, fun episode! xo

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Look man, oh I see you? Why why? Oh? And look over there? How is that ulture? Yes, goodness ding dong less culture. Risa's calling Happy grew Yer twenty absolutely one, Happy grew here to you. You are singing a little bar of this song that is stuck in your head, and you said you have we have to talk about it, and I actually do want to have a meta conversation after you tell me about who this Olivia girl is. That's good to know that an interest of mine has

already inspired a meta conversation for you. Yes, all right, Well the song the hook, and the song goes like this, guess you didn't me what you said? And your song a band me and it's Olivia Rodrigo and the song is Driver's License. Who is she? She was a Disney star girl and now she's going to have a Billboard Hot one number one hit because this song has exploded. I have not heard of this Olivia girl. Maybe I've been living under a damn rock. Well, she's literally a

young girl. She's seventeen. She's very young girl. Like the young gen z ors know about her, and I believe that it is because of their knowledge of her that she sort of exploded. So because she is going to have like a number one hit on the Billboard charts and it was just released. Now, pray, tell, what is this meta conversation? Well, I don't mean to bring this tone into our discourse, especially so early on in the year. I am just a little I'm I'm once again finding

myself to be a little disappointed in my sister. I try to introduce my sister to some culture, and she is not enthusiastic. She's not playing Breath of the Wild. She's not playing she's not getting into any video game culture. I told you why I wasn't playing it because my the the space, I didn't have enough space. That's not my or whatever. You and no, Ellen, that's not that's not the truth. You don't call me Ellen. Do all shut up for you? And also you you did bring

me to bring this energy. And of course I downloadle Breath of the World and I played it for about three hours. You didn't even get off the damn plateau, and and you've written off this match. I tried to get off the plateau, and I told you what my next move was that I was going to go online and look at like what to do online? I just

didn't get to it. I'm actually busy. Meanwhile, you know that I'm gonna after this episode ends, I'm gonna, you know, as a courtesy to my friend, check out this Olivia girl, and you're gonna have to listen to that song for four minutes. And I played Breath of the Wild for hours. And also, how dare you? How do you say that I'm not exposing myself to do a culture You know, I watched all nineteen hours of the Sound of Music. I wanted to talk about it today. No, it truly it. Okay,

we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. But look, I'm sorry reader that we are bringing. Matt and I are on very good terms. I have got very understand you. What do you mean? No, No, you came on the zoom and you were shaking your eyes at me. You were saying, I'm done with you. You beast, You beast. You are a beast. You are the beast, pure evil? How dare you? It's pure evil? It is you are a beast. I don't understand what this is because I

came on today excited to see you. Funk. I always met with silence when I text that you were late by myself. No, don't start with me. You're flop flop Utica Queen Jester or flop that's what you like? Flop. I was saying in the group text when I said I need some of my friends to start watching ninety A Fiance with me because I feel like I'm all alone over here. No one responded except Aaron Jackson. You. My my sister will refuses to watch ninety Fiance with me when I tell him that it's an ex silent

reality viewing experience. First of all, one time, when I was at your apartment, we did watch Fiance and also listen Bowen Yang if that's really your name, because you don't seem like my sister right now. Seem like an absolute attacker. M you look like one of those you know what's attackers. I don't know what. I don't know what. You look like one of those Capitol Hill attackers. Okay, no out. My sister accused me of being an insurrectionist.

We're recording this after truly the fire on the Reichstag of our country. Oh my god, I can't believe I wanted to. I wanted. I definitely want to talk about it. But wait first, I just want to say that you listening to Olivia Rodrigo is going to be a four minute experience. It's one song me getting into Nino da Fiance. Do you have any idea how much trash I watch on television? I'm I'm I have so much stuff to watch.

Add one more to the pile, honey, Okay, But I'm saying it's not an attack on you that I'm not watching to day Fiance. It's also so funny that we're arguing like this and are matching taylors of cardigans that we just can't see. But we're throwing our cardigans. Look, I just wanted to I wanted to start this year off with some honesty. That's it. And I feel this way.

I feel this way sometimes I don't get to share in the cultural experiences that I am enjoying at the moment because my sister is over there saying things like you know, you know, no no bone bonny, and I'm like, I guess I already remember the hook, and you already remember the I don't remember the d So I just listened to it like three times Driver's License because the song is about how she's young and so the song is about like I got your I got my driver's license,

like we always talked about. That's how the song starts. It's really good. Can I just say it's sort of like it's like Taylor Swift lyrics with like Billie Eilish like delivery in terms of vocals. Until she opens up and there's some like there's some like Ariana Grande capability in there, and then who does she become? She sort of becomes an amalgamation of them all. She becomes Olivia Rodrigo. You seem well, I guess I'll check her out. I really recommend you start watching season two or three if

D Fiance before the ninety Days. I'm sure so many readers are in ninety day Nation. But I find it so wonderful because it's the perfect cleaning show. It's the perfect show to like put on in the background while you fold laundry, while you, you know, do a little do little chores around the home, cooking, cleaning and the iron ing, all of it. I really think my sister would enjoy those sorts of sort of house things. Yes,

house things. Now. I just want to because because this is sort of the extent of my knowledge about Fiance. It is an arranged fiance program and basically you meet someone from in the world that wants to get married as well, and they follow you for ninety days and then you get married. Is that the idea and the baseline. I guess, I don't know if you call it that.

The the original ninety Day Fiance series is people from foreign countries coming to America on a K one visa in order to meet people that they may or may not already be engaged to Americans and then they have ninety days to get married. The spinoffs, like before the ninety days, are the Americans going to the foreign countries to meet these people for the first time, people that they've chatted with on apps fall in love. It's not the show arranging it. It's that the show finds people

who have already been in these conversations. Sometimes it's clear that the couples just want to be on TV. And sometimes you know, uh, in some tragic cases, someone will go to a foreign country to meet someone in the person won't show up. That tragedy very tragic. Yeah, that's very tragic. There's nint Day Fiance the other way, which is Americans going to foreign country to live there, moved to other countries to be with their their freature spouses.

There's just there's a lot of a lot of beautiful storytelling going on, tragic storytelling to experience. Yeah, it feels that way. And so after the ninety Days is I guess just like a sort of docuseriies about what's happened to them post the show. Well, yeah, and sometimes there's one called Happily ever After, which is that? Or sometimes the people from before the niney Days move on to the mainline Fiance series, people like Angela and Michael, people

like Darcy. Maybe no Darcy icon. The fact that you knew their names sarch suggests to me that they are the icons of the show. Well, to me, I I've only dealt with like a very small sample of the show so far. But um, I'm really digging into the back catal on. Basically, I'm just the readers know, and the readers can tell. The readers can very politely tell Matt to to give Matt the survivor syllabus equivalent to fiance.

I think you would love it, Queen. I'm sure I would, And I want to say, especially given what we've seen in the last week or so, I wanted to thank you for thank theory. Please politely, yes, tell Matt to do this, because what I would hate is if you incited violence against me. If Bowen Yang got on this podcast and said a dog whistle, he will say what she says. He says them, and you say a dog whistle to all the fans, and then they come for me, and then it becomes a real problem. Pig's head on

my door because I'm not watching fiance. You just called the readers fans, which it feels blasphemous to me. We ever call them fans. Stupid? Roll back the tape? I never said that, girl. Okay, well, I dare you roll back the tape? I dare you to move? Um, how are you girl? How literally are you? I am? Literally? I'm okay, I'm doing I'm doing well. I am I'm kind of spiraling in the way that feels useless but necessary.

I don't know. I don't know how about you? Are you spiraling because of the the macro or the micro? The macro the micro is great, the micro is. I love that the micro is great. I love to hear that the vibe is. I'm truly just at home vibing out to ninety day fiance. Do you understand? Okay, yes I do. I do, and you understand. You know, I know what it's like to have a reality show sort of saving Yes, so so understand, Matt. But this is this is this is a test of the friendship. Okay,

all right, I'm sorry. Can I tell you something? And when we come back for another culture catch up, I will have watched so much of it. I swear to you you because this is the equivalent of you coming to me being like you have to watch Survivor. Parverty is an icon telling you you have to watch before the day is Darcy and Angela are true icons and the readers can I'm really excited. I really am excited and listen if this will be a personal failing if I don't follow, if I don't follow up on this.

So I literally am going to do it. And it's not like I'm doing any thing else. I'm litterally doing not fair. It's like Real Housewives of Dallas came back and you would think it was fucking American Idol season two. I blew up balloons and ship. Seriously, it's like for for Rod, I mean, but in spirit, Yes, balloons for Rod. That what the people call it is that the h D I mean, they don't that. The community kind of just says, Dallas, you know what I mean. Not it's

not like Roni. Rony is the only thing that has that. Yeah, pretty much like you're not You're not saying did you watch rock rop? Did you catch a rop on Sunday? Which, by the way, now it's now we know how it ends. Yeah, oh you know what, Monique ms Monique, it's it's not

there at the end. Well, I don't even this. This might be a lot and this will get back to her, I'm sure, but like I was like pretty close to on following because it's just her like posting ship where she's like at a gun range with no mask on with like groups of people, and and then the Chris the annuals of it all, like them strike sand affecting that fucking transphobic comment that he made. I'm like, I would not have known that he had made that comment if he did not bring it up on the show

to defend himself. I was like, this is this is so unfortunate. It's anyway, I mean, so many elements of that comment were bad there came a point during that reunion I think it was honestly the transphobic comment, or maybe at some some point before that, but I fully kind of abandoned moaning towards the end of that, and I was like, oh no, this is really I don't see her taking accountability for this emotionally in the in

in a way that's justifiable at all. I was like, and it's not that I like Candice More at the end of this reunion, but I was like, she is the only one it's clear can continue with this show. Because yeah, I would say that Chris comment really put me over the edge when he said that Bruce Jenner thing. I was like, Okay, there's just just starting there. Like I was like, there's already a lot wrong with this. It's a two for it's a two for worried comment.

Basically for years you don't watch so Chris Samuel's MONI Samuel's husband was really was really mad at the other housewives. Basically, um he said, I wish I could turn into Bruce Jenner so I could like so, so I could like any The situation was if only he were a woman, he could beat the women's asses that are on the cast and it was like, Okay, you can't go there. Probably this feels this feels dark on dark on dark, It's so many layers of dark. It's like, okay, so

you want to violently assault these women. A B. You are dead naming a trans person to see you are saying you are reducing a trans identity to affording you the ability to be violent against it's it was. It was truly like such a crazy nexus of darkness that I was like, and for that reason, I'm out to quote our friend Pat Regan and the Sharks, and for that reason, I'm no, Yeah, I definitely I wouldn't invest

in money Samuel's at this point now, um. And I say that with a lot of love for her from from prior to that, but I just think it says a lot about a person that you could sit by someone saying that and not make a bigger deal of the fact. Like when he when they said to him like this comment was unacceptable, he was like, oh, come on, you know I wouldn't you know, That's on how I feel,

and then moved up, moved right on. I was like, no, anyone, anyone in their right mind living in the now would see themselves saying that and be like, I'm horrified, it's unacceptable, and then would close their mouths, probably about all other topics, like but he was really on one. It looked very badly on her, reflected badly on her rather and I was just like, you know what, it's gotten to the point where it's these this group of women is never

gonna mesh again. It's clear they won't film with her. And so Samuel's leaves Potomac in bad fashion, terrible fashions. The dresses were bad, the color was bad. But you and I, you know, had to it. Unfortunately sell low on Monique Samuel's and that happens, and that happens, um happens all the time. I mean, you know, you know whose stock is plummeting Twitter? Like I guess, like I don't know. It must have been as a result of them banning Trump, but the their stock apparently plummeted. That's

really too bad. It's really fucking too bad. Should have plummeted four years ago, you asked, and I'm talking to Jack when I say that, it honestly is so good for the world that that happened, Like when when that honestly felt like the first moment in the in the dissolution of his presidency, or rather the election of President elect Biden, that it kind of felt like, oh wow, there's gonna be real repercussions for him and he It was the first time where I believed like, maybe ultimately

he will get what he deserved, because I just never saw Twitter doing the right thing or all these social media platforms doing the right thing, because they literally never have. So now that this is happening, I'm kind of like, not excited is not the right word, but I'm anticipating real fallout for him. The only thing that obviously worries me now as we've seen is what's truly apparent is that he can go. But the people he's emboldened and create and created a new hatred in and a new

sort of fire in obviously remain. And we had, honestly one of the scariest things I can remember watching on television. I don't know if you were watching live, but I was watching MSNBC. But when this happened at the Capitol, I was literally watching when they pulled out um, the woman who was shot and killed because she was trying to climb in a fucking window at the Capitol in a pretty much successful attempt to disrupt democracy. That day, I was just like I couldn't fucking believe it. I mean,

it's so has to be the last thing. But you're questioning whether or not that's true. Well, the I think I know what you mean in terms of like there was um an outcome potentially where like Biden wouldn't have prosecuted Trump before the insurrection, Biden wouldn't have prosecrat exactly, like maybe they would have just let him go off. But now it's like you kind of you kind of have to, and it's like in terms of like public opinion, it's like you gotta do it. Most people in this

country want him out at this point. But I'm just saying, like, you know, you, like you open up, like Marrick Garland future attorney general can start to prosecute everyone in the Trump administration specifically at least were at least the ones who like had a hand and and sort of like

inciting all this violence. Um, yeah, Trump, the kids, Giuliani and then but then but then the other thing is like Trumpism has always been a death call or at least like being a Trump supporter has always been being in a death cult. But now it's like, if anything, if there's any violence in the name of Trump, it should become like a national security concern. It should be immediately elevated to that level where it's like, okay, like the FBI is gonna like truly cut you off at

every single level, and you're not. You're like all these videos of like these fucking idiots being an airport's being like I want the no fly list. It's like, yes, terrorists because you're a terrorist, because you're a domestic terrorist who attempted to disrupt democracy by literally breaking into the capital building. And it's just so insane that there are still some people that work in our government like that.

I mean, namely like Senator Cruz, Senator Holly, who should both absolutely resign or be kicked the funk out there who still want to die on this hill of no These people need to be heard, get the fuck out of here. It is crazy. And the thing is what's happening now is insanely enough. We're starting to divide now between bad Republicans and good Republicans, and people are like, oh, look look at Lindsay Graham getting hunted down in the airport. Yeah,

he deserves it. Like, of course, remember that these two are beating the drum of like there was still election fraud, like and stoking the flames of this and truly inciding this at this moment. But don't forget for one second that we should not even be anywhere close to this, and every single member of the GOP that has gone along with this, just do not forget it, Like, don't let fucking Mitch McConnell because he's going through with the ceremony of it all at the last minute and deciding

now that it's unacceptable. Don't forget that this all went down the way it went down for the last four years, five years. At this point, it is such an ugly just I think everyone has just been we've been unhealthier as human beings absorbing all of this as a result

of it. It has really damaged all of in our souls and like, it's just so fucked up to see I'm even like, I'm even like not even forgiving of the fucking Murkowski's where I'm like, no is it's a completely empty gesture for her to be, like, I might not consider being a Republican it's like, fuck you, you clown. You voted like you, like you confirmed Barrett, you confirmed

having a jester. She's a jester. Queen. No one if you have aligned yourself with the Republican Party at any part, at least, if you've enabled Trump in any way in the last four years on that level and on a decision making level, if you've been in charge, this is this is This is the distinction that I don't care on an individual level someone's behavior or someone's like thought process necessarily, but when it comes to like you being in the fucking Senate and you like constantly Murkowsk is

a fucking idiot, has always just like she's an idiot. Colin just an idiot. But but they've they've come out just to like, truly, in my mind, just to seek attention. It's there. There's there's no other explanation for it. Why is it always the two of them? I mean, for me, it's just like I think that they love to like flagrantly show how independent they are because they know that people where they're from like quote unquote independent thinkers. Meanwhile,

they're literally not independent thinkers. They'll just do whatever is expeding at the time, they're essentially like playing a game by being where they are. They're just looking assessing situations and constantly doing damage control for themselves and scraping by. It's so it's just funny that these people consider these moderates independent thinkers when they just have the ability to swing from the center. So now you have Murkowski being like,

you know, I might even switch parties. You have no fucking kidding who has the majority? Now, don't fall for it. It is bullshit. And I think this goes even further back than when Trump is Um began and it was like get on board or get off, which they all did. I think it goes back to and people need to be accountable for anyone that was responsible. And a lot of people have reckoned with this already and do good things quote unquote good to try and help swing a

Biden victory this time successfully. But if you were checking a box that said McCain Palin on it, understand that you helped set a precedent that you could put a fucking idiot on the ticket who didn't know anything just because it was politically expedient and it would cater to I'm sorry, but the Trump base and don't pretend just now to know who they are because you campaigned around this country with Sarah Palin and saw the type of person that she whipped up, and then you thought that

would just go away. But no, your party was literally set up for someone like Trump to come in. Cult of personality takes hold and then we have what we have, which is this emboldening of a passionate voting block. And it's fun sucking crazy And I'm sorry, but the GOP has been a joke my entire lifetime and your entire lifetime and proceeding that, because it became a fucking reality show,

entertainment program, game about power and it's fucked up. And I know, I'm just like shouting this out into the ether on this podcast because everyone probably agrees, but if you don't, you need to sell search. This is like so beyond that. We're here. We literally look like a crazy movie. It's insane. What's that movie with um the guy from Closer, Clive Owen Closer? Closer? We look like Closer. We look like Closer. My real name is Jane's Jane?

Thanks still, Jane. Can we talk about Natalie? Can we just take a step Natalie Portman. I have, I have, I have a a research paper within me on her. I think the goal for this year is to get her on the pod. I think it could happen. Oh that would be she knows she's a Long Island queen. She's a Long Island queen. I think Ms Natalie watches S ANDL from home. I'm sure she does, as many millions do. I think three time hosts. I think she's she's on track. She's fabulous every time, fabulous every time.

She's on track to join the five timers club within the next you know, ten years, hopefully five. Um. Yes, she she she can do it and also she's good enough to do it. Iconically, Natalie's rap, which we love. Um, one of the iconic digital short. Digital short culture is culture. Digital culture is capital culture, and that's a rule of Culture's culture number nineteen. Digital short culture is habital c culture. We we know what. I'm sorry, I'm We're We're sorry,

We're doing this. We're like booking ahead and we're kind of flex singer like access. I think it's wonderful. Trixie Mattel is coming on the show next week. Trixie Mattel is coming on the show next week. We're so excited. Um. She texted Matt the exchange numbers and she said, high legend. It's Tracy and it made me laughing. Love, I love Tracy Martel. I just want to say, I think Samberg Sandberg would would do it and would be great, and I think we could really actually I love and he's

the best, the best in the world. He's such good vibes. I think you and I could prepare a really good, like an interview that can top like a Maron, like a Mark Marin, Terry Gross back. We could we could prop up an interview that topped even Maren. We're gonna top Marin. We're gonna top Marin. We're gonna top Terry Gross. We're gonna play a clip of Adam Driver mission statement for the pod mission statement for the top, Mark Martin Marin. We're gonna top him. We're gonna top him. I think,

I think, I think Samberg. I think Sandberg deserves an interview from people who have been influenced by him directly, like you and I like directed. I'm literally saying he is one of my number one communic influences. He is, of course, of the same big dumb face school I went to UM and it's just like to see him succeed being so big. I always loved like the digital shorts were always just their own thing, and I just

he nails it from me every time. And the Lonely Islands of Music is actually good, which is something that makes me so h word happy happy and credibad is so good. Um this the second one, Um, Yes, I mean truly wonderful. I did did you see them at Clusterfest in San Francisco that year that they were there

that they did? I went out and watched them, and honestly, me seeing them live goes way back because when I was at the dorms at n y U, I walked to the Best Buyer Union Square where they were they were doing like a talk back and just sat in the back of the talk back and being smiled at them. I was such a huge fan of them. Um. But like, yeah, they did a performance at Clusterfest and it was really fun. I was like in the outdoor stage. God, I missed

going to shows home. It's like crippling bitch, honey, I think, oh my god, can I just say this is something real, real, real, mushy mushy dress, your flop. But first of all, for the reader should know that Matt and I our brains have evolved over the holidays and get to each other again and all we can say to each other get ready for a lot of the words flop and jest to be flying Jester, you flop, done it again? Flop. I hope you don't flop when you're saying this mushy thing,

go for it, flop flop. I won't flop, because truly, this is this is what we're talking about the readers, and the readers have been so kind, the best we have the best listenership, but a lot of a lot of a lot of really nice snow it's being sent to us about how they can't wait to see us

live again whenever that's whenever that may be. And but truly, like this is lighting a fire under my something because I'm just like, oh, yeah, like you know what the priority number one once it's safest for you and I did to plan some some some live thing for absolutely I want to do like I want to do like big shows. I really want to block out time and do that. I am like I'm having like wistful memories of Oh god, the Bellhouse was just the most fun nights,

the most funny. They were the most fun nights, absolutely, But I'm even saying, like I remember it being so stressful at the time, but the touring was actually beautiful. I was talking about this um with Nicole Buyer, Oh um, readers, fun fun fun um. Why won't you Date me? Bo and Yang edition coming in like March I want to say, but it was really fun. But Nicole and I were just talking about how like touring, like what do you mean, oh you mean you did? You did it? Why won't

you dame me? I did? Why won't you date me? And I was like it's the best I was like, I didn't. I didn't realize was like waiting for this, you know, and in terms of like not waiting for this, like as if I was entitled to it. Not not that I'm entitled to like being a guest on that show, but I was just like, oh, this is like a fun like a little like um, oh yeah, I'm on the show that I love to listen to, which I

do um, And it was just exactly that. No. I was just saying, like when I did it, it was more of a thing of like, oh, I get to do this with Nicole, you know what I mean, Like it's just so fun to sit with her and be a literally around her. I think that, like she is truly one of the funniest, most obvious stars that I know. It comes out of her like magic, Like she's just she can be funny any time I decay. Yes, it's that she's a magic person. She's just a star. She

just says she's a star. Um. But anyway, we were we're dying to do some shows again for people and to head up a few places. That's where that's what we're sort of manifesting for one right, Jester, I would say, Jester would be such a flop if we didn't get to do one flop show in front of our what's the biggest flop show we've ever done? Honestly, what's what's been a flop that we've done? A flop? I know, I know, I think you and I oh, I know when we flopped. We flopped when when we did a

show at the Pit as Sluck. We did a show at the Pit Underground as Sluck. It was a headlining show. It was because we literally were guesting on every show in town. There was a time when Bowen and I were most busy performing Sluck, which was our if you don't know what sluck is, lip sync garbage dance duo that were sluts, and we were just putting mixes together of like doing slutty songs. We were underwear and crop tops and put disgusting makeup on and like basically flopped

on stage. And people loved how slutty we were, so we got booked everywhere, and then we decided we would do a two person show, just a headlining show, just a half hour of Sluck. One person came, so we did a show for her, and I think literally she wasn't even trying to come. She was just upstairs for something. And we're like, can you watch us perform because it'll be literally just me and you because we didn't even

have a tech. We need to have Amanda back on because we owe because that that is right, or die something it's not right, or diet. It's like she is, she's she's not a fair weather friend. Maybe she wasn't even there to see us, but the fact that she still sat down as the only person in that audience to watch us says everything. Oh so did we. I think we put together some new mixes for that we had and sluck is not easy to do. Sluck is one of the hardest things could do. Beyonce was offered

sluck and she she passed. She said it's going to be too physically taxing. Beyonce passed. It was gonna be bowing and Beyonce and thank god she passed on sluck. Well, he was that our dream girls. She she was beautiful, amazing. Oh that's right. This was This was around two five. It wasn't at all. I know, I know me up the bit that was a flop? I was gonna say, I thought you were asking what was the what was a flop? Laws called Theresa's show that we've done, and

I okay, which one was? Well, I don't fall city, No, that I was gonna like disclaim that, like, this is not us dragging the city. It's us dragging like the way that everything aligned, which was that we were performing at an all ages venue and it was and it was dry, and I think I think, maybe, well I think maybe it is like it was just that we were off one night. Maybe I think, can I be honest, like it is like every time you do a live show,

it is a little bit like rolling the dice. But honestly, you and I are both live performers, so I've never worried about us. But the thing is like with that audience in particular, I was doing the show and I literally said in my own head, I was like, oh, we cannot do this without alcohol involved, like people have to be. I feeled that way about like most shows I do. I'm like, let's get people a little drunk, please dry all ages show in Seattle, I didn't in

the in the winter. It wasn't popping off, yes, and we flopped, so we so I we didn't say this upfront, but it was Seattle, and this is not that it's not a dig at the city. And in fact, so many, so many wonderful people came and remember we got and then oh I forgot, I forgot who. But there were those two cute boys that we were the second we left. Then we were like, we should have talked to them more. We should have went out for drinks with them. We

should have. But they gave us gifts. Those two boys gave us gifts, I know, and they also were hot. I wonder if they still listen. Well, um, it was a wonderful I was a good experience. I'm glad we and then you and I got to walk around the space needle and that was cute. Yeah, that's basically it was cute. I wonder if those boys listen and they were on a picture of me nude? Do they want to picture of me nude? Would you like one? Do you want a picture of men? You have to write this.

This is a song I'm writing right now. Want picture. I think it's a hit. I took an out of a right before the episode. Done that too, damn it, and it's hitting. Girl. Have some list? Can I tell you, Jester? I so, I so we wouldn't flop today. I wrote down some topics of things that have happened or happening. We're flopping, and so you're consulting the list. No, no, no, no, I literally I don't think we're flapping at all. I

think this is going splendidly. But I really wanted to make sure I talked with you about one thing, which is why I bring it up. Flop. We pulled ourselves out of our flopped them and you watched Jaws and I watched the Sound of music, and I want to give takes. I want to let the readers know how we felt because this is iconic culture that we were receiving initially. So we watched, we watched separately, and this

was a moment for us. Yes, so this was this was Bone was sort of live texting me through uh, the sound of music. You know you you were you were live texting me through sounds of music. I was live texting you through Jaws. Well, yes, but sort of when you're live texting a person, that person is sort of live texting you as well. You know what I mean. It's sort of like if we're holding hands, we're both holding hands, you know what I mean, one person isn't

holding hands with the other person. I don't have time to get into this, but I have literally no time to get into this. But anyway, we were live texting. We shared a live text moment about both films, and um, I just want to say, how many stars would you give Jaws out of five stars? Well? I was just really impressed overall with how it still works as like a horror movie. And I think it probably set a bunch of horror rule, Like it's set a bunch of

like conventions in horror. Um, I give Jaws four out of four and a half stars. Oh my god, and so tell us like critic, tell us, critic, what is the half star that it's missing? That it just it would have been good, but you're taking away this half star. I wanted to see. I wanted to see Jaws herself. I wanted to see Jaws, not just come try to eat the boat. I wanted to see Jaws maybe jump out the water into the sky. I wanted to see full body Jaws because, like I get it, the technology

at the time didn't allow it. But I needed to see Jaws just to get a full understanding of you know what am I? What am I? What am I looking at? When I when? When I when I hear the word Jaws? And honestly, the town should have been called Jaws. And actually no, I have a bone to pick with the readers. They think that I really thought that the town was called Jaws. I was belly you you were lapping hard on and you here you are today. Jestre queen trying to say, you know, you know what?

They could just go back. They have the tape. This is Trump is um with this, this is what you do. This is a dog whistle to your to your supporters. Everyone's being a flop right now, including a hothead of content haunts who's saying you're crazy. The movie only works because you don't see Jaws. No, I think that you are a little crazy. And I think that Bowen is like when like what happened when he said, uh, the town is called Jaws, sort of just like being a

little bit controversial on Purpoise. Okay, so you're so, Then you're so. Then you're admitting that I wasn't. I was. I was being up too. Okay, fine, I can admit that I thought the comment was up tu when he said the town was called Jaws. I thought to myself, Okay, this bitch wants to play. This bitch wants to sort

of get a little dirty right now. And I gave you that, and I've let it go on this long um to the point where I can say I knew all along was obtus I really did, which is how I know you're being bullshit now, because let's bring it to what it's really about, which is you talking about how the sharks should jump in the sky. You really think this bitch, well, bitch you're the one who's inciting all of this vitriol. Don't use that trigger word with me.

Don't you dare whistles? Do you trigger? If you keep triggering, you're getting fire. You You don't have that power. Um, what did you think of Sound of Music? How many stars? How many stars? How many stars would you give to sound music? Well, you sort of gave a summation of your review and then gave the stars, So I will allow myself the same opportunity for suspense. Thank you very much. Okay, So I felt that the Sound of Music really showcased a star in Julie Andrews. I think that she gave

a performance for the age. This performance will go down in history as a defining one of the musical theater genre. She is shining, bright, resplendent, and when her heartbreaks, so does yours. And she's able, in merely short scenes to sort of foster a connection with so many of the children that you feel and are invested in, and you can follow her emotionally and you feel her conflict, which is she wants to be a nun? Right doesn't she

want to be a nun? And then this other worldly feeling comes in and that feeling is romantic love and she feels it with Captain von Trapp, who is a difficult person because he's lost in his life. He has lost and he's got a lot of responsibility and he's got a lot of kids to take care of, and so he is a little bit by the book and you know what, yes, he is in gauge to the Baroness. What did you think of the Barrenness. I thought that she presented a case for his best character in the

film history. I thought she presented a case when the Barreness came in and you see her connection with Mr Max or Miss Max as we say, that was a fully realized relationship. And you know what, I feel that, you know, the Barrenness is not a villain in this, okay, because she is just playing her lot in life, and she is in love and she is heartbroken. But the fact of the matter is the relationship of Captain von Trapp and Maria is a force of nature and it

changes the course of their lives. And because of that love and teamwork, they're able to make a real family in the Von Traps and they are the family von Traps, and as a team and as a unit, they are able to escape the nazis. The greatest love triumphed over the greatest evil in the film the sound of music, And there are temptations along the way because Lisi, she is feeling she's one of the most important supporting characters in all films. She is feeling this pull too. But

it is towards Rolf, who is a Nazi. And it has to be said, plane, Plane, Ralf is a Nazi. So every time we're doing you are sixteen going on seven to understand, this is the song of a Nazi. Mm hmm. So it's a Nazi saying, baby, it's time to think. When a Nazi tells you, baby, it's time to think, you better run the other way. You better get out and log off parlor. Oh wait, it's offline

because Amazon stopped hosting it. Okay, so yes, I did say several times while watching this, this feels very prescient. Now I did say that, But you know what, Ultimately, not only is this dynamic story incredible and yes, good does triumph, but the music was incredible. Music was incredible. It Wise, we never stopped crying at that song. I give the film five stars out of the Sound of Out of five. I give the film five stars. Sound

of Music was incredible, musical feet of filmmaking. I'm so happy I watched it the way my sister was the opposite of a jester, opposite of a flop, a soaring king. In that review of the Sound of Music, and that you can't love yourself enough to give Jaws five stars, that's right. During a tender moment, I will honey, you need you have a personal problem. This scale the it's four I was. I gave it four out a four and a half stars, So the full I don't I don't care to do the math right now, but it's

almost five stars. It's more than I'm giving it. I'm giving it more than four and a half. Starting now, you said the flaw was that the shark didn't fly in the sky. That's what you said, he did not. I assure you she get it right, because that was a girl. Boss if I saw was a girl girl if and that's a rule of culture number ninety two, Jaws was a girl if I've ever seen one. Can you talk about the way that the Sound of Music is a breezy three hours. I didn't think about the length, bitch,

I'm out here. He constantly thinking about the length of movies. When I mean, what did I watch, Oh, Soul Girl, Why it wasn't even honestly that long. But halfway through I was like, groo, why am I only here? It was just some movies are so long. This movie was such a classic. I just I was in it, and also I was prepared and happy for the event of the film. Yes, yes, oh, because it was an event for you. You you you found it on your little TV app instead we're doing this. I saw it there.

I saw it standing there, and I said, this is the moment. And I'm so happy that you followed up that moment with the undertaking that is watching Jaws also a long film. Well Jaws, I would say, if there's a if there's a half start to be knocked off. It is the very true fact that it feels lengthy. Well, it was lengthy, and yet it moved at an incredible it And you had told me about the Quinn monologue. The Quinn monologue, Robert Shaw, amazing the acting, that amazing acting,

truly amazing acting. Richard Dreyfuss giving you hot scientists. You were attracted, Yes, very deeply. I love someone's knowledge, and so I guess that goes for Quint to Quinn, it's some knowledge. The person who didn't really have knowledge was the Roy Scheider character. I was like, you know, but he was the hot one. I felt he was hot, but he didn't know anything. He knew how, he knew how to like work the boat kind of, but other than that he was he was more just having a

good spirit. I was just kind of shocked at how filmic Jaws was. I'm like, they don't make movies. They don't make big, big budget movies like this anymore. That was the seventies and you had you had, like, you know, Roy Scheider doing like the making the faces with his son. I'm like, oh, you don't, like that would never happen

in a budget movie nowadays. Yeah. It's almost like how the original Star Wars kind of seems way more authentic than the ones that came out right, like the episode one, two, and three, the ones with Natalie Um, because the special effects took it's so to cartoon world that that disparity between the live action and the c G. I just

kind of people lost it, lost something something um. And then watching the old ones, you're kind of just like, oh yeah, like this is a real I'm more um invested in the stakes for them because it feels like that thing is a part of their world, you know what I mean, Like the tractor, you know what I mean,

like might crush them, the trash compact or whatever. Now it's like so much around that time it was any although I did text you that over Christmas, I did watch episode nine for the first time, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The newer ones I actually think are better because everything about them is so heightened. That's why whenever anyone even compares like the Daisy Realley ones to the

Markhama ones, I'm like, they're completely different. Like it's never going to live up to the nostalgia and love you're gonna have for something that was made during that time with a child, when movies were made differently and when you had child's eyes, Like except these movies for what they are, which are four children like fantasy, whatever's They're never gonna be like smarter than anything else. They just

have to entertain and make choices. And it seems like people get mad at the new ones because they make choices instead of Arns repeating and they do make choices, and I truly loved like the the like wild nous in like Adam Driver's spoiler alert making out with Daisy Ridley at the end before he oh, Like I'm like, this is so funny and crazy and like and what other and what other movie would this happen? And if not Star Wars right now? And literally it was dragged.

It was, yes, sure it was. It was like that's what I kept saying. It was camp And that's why I liked it because Terry Russell in that offense to me was camp. It is camp. You never see Garry Russell's face and um, it's like the movie is crazy. It's a cooly crazy and Babbu Frick get out icon icon one of the most stunning, sexually stunning men in

the world. Yes, but Babbo Frick. But this is this is this is everyone's issue with them Episode eight, which is not like I don't think it's the greatest Star Wars movie. It deserves some sort of flowers for the way that it made choices with fucking Laura durn saying pup you and then like comic casing and start destroyer like yeah, and you know what you have you have to think of it as a choice, because I mean she she did say pu pew, she said Pepe, and they kept it and they kept it and they kept

it and kept it. Yes, yeah, I believe it was there on purpose. Okay that I'll always say that Peter was there on purpose, and so is that Starbucks cup. I think they wanted the conversation. I think that their entertainment industry people first and foremost, and they had us

talking girl. Um. But yes, I genuinely loved pretty much everything about the last one, and I liked the Last Jedi because what I loved about the last Yes, the Last Jedi was when the reveal was she's when she realized that she was no one, she was not actually connected to the mythology. And I love that because it made a choicely about her, like that they weren't going to give us this fan service. But then it was funny because when when that when the next movie came out,

I was gagging for the fan service. I'm like, yes, she's the granddaughter of Palpatine. Actually it's like think that that man had children. Anyway, it's at that point I was just like, yes, queen. And when when they were looking at each other and I was like, they better kiss that. How is how this pays off? And then they did and then he died. Incredible. Get we respect the drama of that. It was soap opera level. And that's because that's what they are. That's what they are.

And I have to commend the fight sequences. I mean when they when they trade off the lightsaber or just or just any time they had they would like go into different sets like I was just like, this must have been a night murder shoot and they pulled it off. So I was just like genuinely impressed. I was also stoned and I was watching this and I was like, wow, I'm having a great time. Do you know that? You

know how my experience of seeing it. Me and Matt Whittaker went to a forty X theater and I'm telling you, the seats move. It is a theme park. I kid you not. When we sit down, Matt is like a little fit sensitive like motion sickness is not not difficult for him to get, I guess. So he was like, I don't know, and I was like, please, let's try.

So the very first thing that happens, and it's insane to think about this now in the Age of Corona is they blast you with water from the seat in front of you, like just water blast in your face from this strange chair and just to show off what they can do in the beginning, and like the surround side is going and the chair is moving and you're like, oh my god. And then the movie starts and it's literally like someone walks into frame and the chair goes

like you turned to face them. It's like you're really moving like a simulator. We've talked about this because I had the same experience with Julio Torres when we saw him Leftist and mrss of evil? But did you? Did you? And I also do this. I think we did this in Vancouver when we watched Alda Battle Angel. Oh oh my god. Well we only made it through half of that. We were sorry to say we walked out of that movie. Um,

but it wasn't because the movie was bad. We found out I got the job at the other two and then we went to go have drinks. Um, we were just like talk this movie. But I think weren't those seats were There's also like forty X equivalent seats for like they were rumbling, but they weren't. I'm telling you, I would remember if it was what this was, because it was like literally like by the time there was

battles happening at the end, it was over. It was like hour And I will say Matt Witwaker Sweet Angels stayed in the chair the whole time. Angel the best um. But it was definitely a way to experience that movie because like it's just so funny, because even emotional beats get like that, like huge battles get. But anyways, I'm so happy that we enriched ourselves with that culture in this way, you see, being more Star Wars girl, I might have to get on this Mandalorian. I am opening,

I am truly, I'm I'm the king. I'm saying we Hans asked, did you both see Tenant? We did not see Tenant. No, I don't think that I need to be in the right man. Maybe I'll maybe I'll take an edible and watch Tenants and sometime soon. I watched Jumanji last night and got my fucking life. The original Jumanj original, the o G And let's just say this, Kirsten Dunns gives a performance. We've talked about this and then the grocery store with the taser with is oh

price check. But her iconic moments are like in the beginning of the movie, like their parents have died. They just died, they died in a car crash. But her character's thing is every new person she meets, she has a monologue about the insane way they die, like she makes them up. She crushes every single one of them. Also, the way that she experiences fear and suspense is she is an innate talent. She was such a good child actress. She's got a point. She's an icon, she's a legend, agend,

the moment, and she is the moment. Now, come on, now, come on now. Another exclusive way Boone and I have been communicating recently is in that Wendy Williams quote and then and then it opened up the gates to another video that we shared with each other where it was a compilation video of Wendy Williams is quote most controversial moment and it's her truly saying wild things in the world. Yeah, just why don't you go watch it? You guys, go watch it. But we don't need to repeat her words.

This is one other thing that the readers have been sort of striding about, which is we do have to give thoughts on everymore. We have literally not talked about it since it's been and I think that that we're actually working out a little bit of a deficit here, because I'm gonna ask you this question and I'm gonna respect you enough to think you're going to give an honest answer. Have you listened to it? Really? I've only

given it three full listens? Wow? Can I tell you I've only gotten through it like four or five times. I don't know what it is. Maybe I'm still living in folklore Land. But what I ended up doing was I made like a I listened to it a few times and I was like, these are the songs that are grabbing me, and I put those in with my favorite songs from folklore, and I made folk more and I like my version of it. So I like some of the songs a lot like I really like Willow

Love Willow. I've been listening to Willow a lot dancing, which remix Elvira, Nobody, No Crime. I know I like it, you don't, I don't. I don't think it works. I don't think I see they were going for the goodbuyeer all with time, and it just it didn't. It didn't click. I is I think anytime you listen to a Taylor Swift album, it isn't it's it's emotional listening. And what I mean by that it's like in terms of, like,

you know, the way the emotional is used. The word emotional is used in terms of like, oh, it's emotional marketing, it's emotional tech, it's emotional this. It's like, you know, you like the the idea that you feel something as you listen to a record is is like part of Taylor's whole ethos. And the fact that Folklore coming out was huge. I think we're both literally in the cardigans. We're wearing the Cardians. I feel like Evermore being announced

and dropped within like within twenty four hours. When she announced it, I was just kind of like maybe it was the holidays and it was just busy, and I just I didn't have the room and my emotional real estate to be like I'm gonna listen to the Taylor

Swift album. And but maybe, like honestly, it was it was a couple of people being like, I hope it's not folklore B sides, and then it kind of just saying that alone colored my expectations going in and being like, this is just gonna be folklore B sides, which I don't think it is. Ultimately it is not folklore B sides, It's it has its Yeah. I just I just nothing

will shock me in the same way that Folklore did. Um. There was such a turn into something different, and I do think as a body of work, Folklore is stronger now. Haven't listened to it more. Um, but there's some really good songs here, like the Love Champagne Problems. I love Champagne Problems, and I had to listen to it a few times to really understand what it was. But now that I do, I just like, Ah, I love that song so much. Just who she's this is what I

love about her. She's able to tell a specific story like I just think that's something I've loved about these two albums is her sort of return to real storytelling. And even with Nobody No Crime, the reason I like it is because it's actually really specific and she is. It feels inventive but also familiar, um, which is another thing that she's really good at. I love gold Rush.

I had to listen to it a few times to understand the trend, to like understand and like the transition from the verse and to the chorus because it is stark. But once I got into it, it's that song is a vibe And my other favorite is Tolerated because again she got really specific with the lyrics. Yeah, that's a track five baby Ivy Marjorie Cowboy like me, um, I

like Dorothea. I mean, it's a great album. It's a great I just I just it's tough for me to like think about it in a vacuum or just separately because some on the heels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I will say I'm still like bumping the songs from folklore in ways that I didn't used to. Like now every song that it's familiar for me, Like I'm it's like I'm raging every time, Like when the Last Great American Dynasty plays around me, there's nothing else happening in the world.

I fucking love that song. And she ultimately did add to her insane catalog with these oh yeah albums. They're so good. I mean, oh, you need to watch this friend label its series by the way, Oh my god, I've been meeting too, and like, uh, I did watch

some of it, but um, it looks incredible, it's great. Um, I'm sure a lot of readers have watched it and especially like it's it's coming perfectly like ten years after um public speaking, which was like the Scorsese doc from HBO, I was telling you, like, it's like taking me back to college days when like I thought I was the coolest fucking person in the world for like reading like Metropolitan Life and being like I love frandle Bwitz. She's

an epigrammist whatever. But she she has this thing that is blown my She says this thing in the new series on Netflix that's blow my mind, which is that she's like society loves like no one is more loved

in society than musicians. And then Scorsese is like, yeah, sure, like and then she's like and the reason why is because like, music is something that like you listen to the music that you like, you listen to and you're immediately happier, um at least like at least for like specific if you're going for that experience, like that's what if you're if you're looking to get that out of the music you want to listen to, that's what you get She's like, I grew up with Motown. Anytime a

Motown song comes on, I'm immediately happier. Do I think it's the best music ever written compared to like Mozart, No, But in terms of like the chemical change that happens in my brain when I listen to a Motown song, music is like drugs that aren't bad. When she's like, it's the only thing in the world that is that makes you immediately happier and it's not bad for you, And I'm like, oh my god, She's right, And that's why.

That's why stand culture is the thing we could we talk about like it's crazy that like stands or like this passionate about their like they're idols. But it's like, no, this is why. It's because like you put on a song and it like changes your mood. I know, I know we're saying something very I'm saying something very basic, but it's like that is the whole Like it's kind of changed my approach and how I listen to music now because now I'm just like me, I want to

feel good. Let me put on levitating my duelipa. You know. It's like that's like the thing anyway, you gotta watch it. No, no, I'm I also think it's funny that if stand culture feels new, because literally there has always been stand culture, you know what I mean, going back to the Beatles, you know what I mean, when there was a mania about people as as long as people were able to know about music, there was an opportunity to be fanatical about it and go to extremes and act abnormal because

you love the music so much. Like and that's the way like girls passing out because they see the Beatles because they got so hyperventilating to that state. Um that's like the equivalent of someone like popping off on Twitter nowadays. Like that's how that energy is being um expelled. So it's just interesting that like we've found a way as a society to like target that energy at each other. It's so crazy that like even fandom is weaponized in culture. Yes, yes,

I mean she has you have to you. I mean this is the second episode where she just talks about culture, and it's like it's so funny, like someone in the audience, like it cuts to a lot of like talkbacks that she's done or speaking engagements that she's done, and someone's like, fan, how do you develop a sense of humor? And she's like the same way when develops height. Like she's just so like she's just like I don't know, she just

the delivery is always impeccable. That's that's the thing that people. She is a singular person. Yeah. Well, it's like Josh Sharp and I were talking about it's like she's like she's a comedian and like she like she delivers, she sings it in and it's like, oh yeah, like she she knows how to like make something pop and hit

the ear right. Her character is amazing and also she is really I mean, I love There's a story she said recently about or not a story, just something she was saying recently about how, um, you know what the AIDS crisis, and so she says, like, you know, it wasn't the people that were like the I hate that. It doesn't it doesn't feel right coming out of my mouth. But she was like, uncool people did not die of

AIDS is basically what she was saying. And that because that's the case, all the good art, all the interesting stuff was gone and it was filled in the culture with people that were second rate, which is why she says culture is second rate now. She says that if her friends that she knew back in the eighties were alive today, that she'd be like, guess who's a star now? And they would laugh for hours that who's a star and who's popular? Because like the best of the best

were lost to that NEIDS epidemic. It is like, I think she has gotten flaking passed for for that specific like take, but because it's an insane take, but also it is there's interesting, there's a kernel of something there.

My favorite friand thing when she goes, um, she's like the worst thing that happened in New York say, She's like, you know, like the city was bankrupt in the seventies and in the in the eighties, and like three people got together in a room and said, let's let's fix that by having people come by, like building these tourist attractions. And she's like, that's the worst thing that's that's ever

happened in the city. Because she goes there's she goes, there's no way that you have a bunch of hillbillies. These are her where she goes, there are no way that there's no way that a bunch of Hillbillies descending on a city does not impact the city itself, there's no way, and so like and so She'll be like,

you know, I'm walking down the street. I'll be walking down the street and I'll hear tourists say things like, oh yeah, that restaurant where the waiters saying that I hated that, And She's like, you hated that, then tell us. If you hated that, then tell us, because we built that for you. So if you hate that, then we can take that down and replace it with something that we need. Like she's like, you know what, Times Square

needs a butcher shop. She's like, Time Square does it need like a museum like Ripley's believe it or not, it needs like like a place to send the man else. She's like, it's it's adversely affected New York City in the way that like it has become because New York didn't used to be a tourist attraction in the past.

You know what does that face? Yeah? You know, I'm literally just I'm writhing thinking about when I used to work at the Ride and we would go through Times Square and the script was like this was all changed by Rudy Giulianne like like it just gave him so much credit over having that like times squarifying of New York And I'm just thinking about Rudy Giuliani and I'm seething. I'm like sitting here thinking, Wow, this is the worst person.

I think if I could target one worst person in my lifetime, it might be him, just like, just in terms of public figures that I've despised for the longest. He is up there because I don't love you. You have to direct your ire at people who have decision making power. That that is the thing. It's like, I don't really give a ship at this point, whether or not, Um I don't. I don't get angry at someone like some lay person who like says or does something stupid

unless exactly unless they're really harmful. Yeah yeah, anyway, Um, what else is on your list? Flop? Are we flopping? No, we're actually we're actually slang. I mean we should probably just say, um, drag race is back, and it is good. I am grateful that it's back. I have been on a journey with drags from like, and I think I speak for a lot of people who are like, it's the gloot of it is too much we've watched too much Drag Race Canada, Holland Season twelve, All Stars five,

like it's too much. Make it go away for as long as possible, and then truly only like four months past and all of a sudden, Season thirteen's back on and I'm like, oh my god, thank God, thank God. But literally, I will say this, I think this for me,

I'll just be honest. When Season eleven happened and I didn't think it was a good season, I kind of said to myself, like, Okay, like a bad season of it is possible because it has been on for a long time, and that's just something that happens to shows that have been on for a long time, like they lose an edge. But I will say this, I feel like the show has come back and it's really found

a way to like give it an edge. I love the premiere and shout out to Dave Mazzoni, who was involved in the creative for the season um and I love the way that like there were six full lips things because that's really what you want to see, is you want to see them perform. I know this wasn't popular with the fandom, but for me, I was living that we were getting someone's performances and it felt like isolated. We got to know everyone that's going to be on

the show, which is what I loved. And you see you see them do in some essential way and that like I mean, this is not for me to say as someone who doesn't perform dragging, but it's like some essence of dragged. I take it back, I was gonna say some essence of dragons, Like it's it's just lip thinking like that is like it's part of the It's like it's like it's baked into like the and you know,

the drag queen direction of it. It's it's baked into the female impersonation aspect of dragging where it's like you lip thinking. So I enjoyed it. I enjoyed. I love Premire a lot. I love these queens. I think there's some really good ones. Um even the quote unquote filler queens. I'm like, oh, I like them, Like I love that

they I mean I love that they kept Elliott. I'm like, oh great, and like I really grew to Elliott really grew on me actually, Like but when they did the Winners episode, the second episode, Elliott during that episode really grew on. Mean, do I think Elliott has fucking nailed it every single time? No, I think some of the looks are I don't get are they're just maybe a little bit like broad um. But ru seems to really

like Elliott style. I didn't mind her entrance look where it was just like late eighties or it was just like a saved It was like saved by the bell. I was I was cute. Yeah, it was like saved by the bell, like she could go into aerobics at any minute type of aesthetic um. And for me, I was just like, that's your entrance look like I I like a high impact because for me, it's like you're a drag queen. You're on drag race, do it? You know what I mean, like go for it, show show off,

like it's your moment. And she comes in wearing that, It's like okay. But I thought that who had a really good high impact look was Candy Muse. I just loved that. It was very New York. It was very Candy mus very because she is formerly House of Ager. She was like a big New York deal, are Brooklyn deal as well? And she was just like was so herself and I loved the boom Box, and I just loved the way she got to pres it on and off with the song. I don't know, I loved it.

I really like her personality. I think it's time. I think it might be time, and that time when we sort of say it's time refers to I don't think so. Mm hmmm mm hm is I guess what would what would you say? It's a segment where, um, we each take one minute to really get something in gulture. Um, yeah, well you'll see you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I would say, yeah, it's it's very self exponatory once to happen. You do have something I do, I do

have something. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so honey. Felt cute? Will delete later or might delete later. I hate this. If it's cute coming from why would you delete it? We follow you, We would assume to see cute slash funny slash attractive slash appealing things. Why would you delete it if it's cute? If you're embarrassed to be indulgent on the platform, I got news for you,

but you have the wrong platform. I don't think so funny these people that are making me follow a drum matic narrative in my life that I did not ask for. I did not turn you on, darling, to follow the narrative of the will they won't they between you and the status deletion. I don't need another bullshit nothing narrative to follow. I watched too many seasons and series of Housewives for that felt. Cutem, delete later. No, bitch, be brave, be bold, keep up the thing you posted for attention

the first time. I don't think any of this. And that's one minute. I you do this, I do this, and I can't disagree with you. Does it annoy you? I feel like it's just a tug of war. It's it's no you know what, Yes it does. I was going to back off, but in annoys, just think of another caption. It's so filler. It's filler. Queen's status it's flop, it's flop. I mean for me, it's just that I feel self conscious, and I'm like, no, I'll take this off, girl. No,

proudly put up everything you want to put up. I'm so I'm telling you, if you if you posted it, if you hit post on it. You wanted people to see it, so stand by your decision. You're right decision. I'm a jest or Look, I'm not gonna lie to you. In your life, you've done gest or things. You've done flop things. Remember that my son Kitson I sweatshirt that you bought when we could not afford that. I thought that was a flop. I did not like that. You

believe I was. I was kind of purjuring some stuff from my closet, and that that flop sweatshirt has been hanging in my closet on a felt hanger for years. I have not worn it once. It does not fit on me anymore because it's just shrunk. I've not watched it properly tossed it. Oh my god, Wow, it's not even in the Hall of Fame. I would I honestly, I almost wish you had kept it. I want it. No, no, no, no, no no, it's not I mean, I'm sure like this

was someplace. We'll sell it um somewhere, but I would hang it up in a glass case in my house one day. I'm not for the Hall of Fame, yeah, I want, I just I just know it for the Hall of fame. But forget that, forget forget these sort of you know, fake bits. I want that piece for my house. Forget bits, okay, forget jokes, games, anything we could say insincere. No, I want that piece from my house. You'll get it, you'll, you'll, you'll be able to find

it somewhere. It's a pretty pretty widely produced garment. I think that. No, it's not the one that you bought. It doesn't matter. You don't understand sentimentality. You don't. You're very cold. That's why you came on here sort of shaking your eyes at me, despite I mean despite me working so hard to see. No, you can't, you can't. I worked really hard on the ads. Okay, job on the ritual ad anyway, um, okay, do you have something this week? I do. It's a little controversial. Oh my god,

you are a lightning rod bitch, another legend. I am proud to be your best friend. It's thank you, thank you, bestie, thank you, bestie. Non flops. The title of EPP is Jester flop Bestie Jester flop. Best title of absolute EPP Jester flop bestie. Oh no, that's gonna be merch. I have ideas for merch. Here's much we need to capitalist

Jester flap bestie yes, Avid Reader, Yes, oh he's flipping thing. Okay, girl, the way I've been bookkeeping lately, I wrote a list of my resolutions Queen okay, Bullet journal down okay, non flop writer, Jester flop, Beth, this is I don't think so, honey. This time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Meryl Streep saying she doesn't like any action movie. Bitch, have you seen Spy directed by Paul Fieg, starring Melissa McCarthy, Jason Statham, and Rose Byrne. That is I mean there.

It's so dumb to me that anyone, especially Meryl Streep, of all people, to make a blanket statement about a genre of culture of art and say there's nothing I like about it. There's something you sound like a my Space team two thousand three sing everything except rap and country. There's one action movie that you like at last, Meryl Meryl Streep, Mary Ellen whatever her real name is, stage

name Mary Louise Flop. So they couldn't think of a character a name for your character on Big Little I Season two, so they named you Mary Louise, You're a flop, Meryl. I'm so ashamed that you wouldn't like any action movie, especially the best action movie of all time, which is Spy Starting Melissa McCarthy one minute, she I don't know if I can stand by calling it the best action movie of all time. I thought it was a fun action comedy, well boy kind and that's really what matters

at the end of the day. Right, You and I both called Meryl Streep bitch on this episode, and we have to live know. But the thing is that the thing is my my opinion on Meryl is she is the deity, and I believe she deserves a nomination for the prom And when so when we say bitch, she knows or she should know. Orken no from my mouth that it is in adoration constantly. I just you know,

it's hard to see. It's hard to see your heroes let you down, and I think Meryl let me down when she said she was Unclbert and Colbert, you know, asked her what's your favorite sandwich, what's your favorite this, and then he got to what's your favorite action movie? She made a face and was like, there aren't any. And I'm like, Meryll that you know that's not true. Yeah it was. It was like you saying the town was called Jaws. That's exactly what it was. It's literally

exactly what you're being. A gesture and a flop and not a bestie. Honey, you're not being a bestie to me. The fact of the matter is, and let me absolutely tell you this to your face, is if I didn't tell you that, I wouldn't be being your bestie. Okay, m It's important to have someone in this life, the one I'm pointing to right now, to be held accountable and the way my my sister, my bestie, holds me accountable. And I received it. I love you, I love myself.

I love you, dearly. I think we look stunning in these cards. I'm actually looking at it and it is a look, yes you do. I just love the elbows. I love the stars on the elbow patches. See, that's the one thing I would lose, the one thing I would lose. What makes it special, sweetie, No, honey, I think that what makes it special, darling deer are these gorgeous lines on the on the what did you call this? The cos that will on the collar. No, I just love.

I just love this. Pack it up with Taylor if you don't like the starts, because guess what, she designed this herself. I respect her, I respect her artistic choice. I just that's what I would lose. I'm not going to cut them off. Darling, dear, you sometimes fluff the way you think about me. You sometimes sometimes the way semi calling the way you think about me. Oh my god. Um. I think this was a great start to the year. I think we we've set some intentions, set some goal.

I wanted to ask you one thing about your resolutions. Have done them quickly? Yes? You know I've told you in private when my resolutions are right, I've done them, I've stuck. I've stuck to them, and they remained private. They remain private. Yes, what about you tell you privately? Privately I can tell you I've been slaying my resolution. Oh I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of my sister. And this is between us, this is between us and the readers. There's nothing there's nothing scandalous that

we should just say that. There's nothing listed about the resolutions. Were just like we don't want to like some things in life have to be sacred. Okay, this is a sacred moment, sacred moment, and this is a sacred moment of the podcast. And because we are ending on a sacred moment, we're gonna end on a sacred song. There me because when you been, when the whole homeies odd kid, who knows. Imagine if we had just done the harmony

like spontaneously. That's why we're not Whitney and Marina. I guess we just block blocked, Bye bye,

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