"Improbable Juices" (w/ Tawny Newsome & Andrew Ti)

giving me the permission either way. I have been in l A now for some time, performing a lot less like that's this is the thing with like I feel like you come out to l A when I'm a New Yorker and I feel like I'm performing all the time, getting on every show, every show here in l A. I'm in fucking bed at literally because that's the L. And I think I like it better that that's the L. Honey, it's actually really culture number nine. That's then I think I like being a person who goes to bed early

and gets up early as well. So that's what you're thinking, like this culture because in New York, I am fully up until two o'clock in the morning, and if I wake up at and catch the last fifteen minutes of the view, it's a blessed day. Wow. I mean, but with New York it's like either your blood vessels are

screaming or you know, you're just so lethargia. I'm so happy that you said blood vessels are screaming because I was thinking to myself, we need to find a way to spice up this L a Versus New York conversation. How are we going to make this the definitive L a Versus New York conversation? And when you, Honey said blood vessels screaming, I saw that and I thought, that's visual and that's why you're an artist, and that's why you're a vocal artist. You are amazing. Bowen are amazing,

and thank you. I think my new joke area is like they so humor, like like blood vessel humor. Can I say some things it happens? Laughing Hot associate for user Alec is laughing at because but you know what, we have so much in common. We're both from Denver. We both were iby kids International Baccalaureate, which is just a really silly um Yeah, I don't care, oh no, but we we both we both remembered it very fondly. I don't mean to poopoo and I be but a place.

What what? What a gorgeous quick friendship that I've struck up with happa, and happa means as we as we briefly mentioned half Asian, so shorthand for saying half Asian. Oh, they're happy and you are fully white Jewish, well Jewish, which is why jewish now speaking of race, speaking of

the race, Here's the thing. Whenever whenever I make an appearance and what I say to the people, as I say I would like to do podcasts, and they say, okay, which and the and and the people sambrella namely, we'll reach out and she'll cut back and she'll say, here's the podcast that would accept you on as a guest. And whenever I see you know, is this racist? And they always accept me, I say, I would like to

do that show. One of the best podcasts. I had such a good time And guess what, I had such a good time listening because I think I'm like, oh, I'm just truly I don't feel I don't feel that same thing with a lot of podcasts. A lot of people talk about where they're just like, oh, I feel like I'm sitting with cool people and having a conversation. Most of the time I'm like, oh, I'm being told about Elizabeth Homes scamming you know whatever, which is what

we discussed. But when you listen to when you listen to these two, I'm truly like, oh, I'm like part of it. No, it's not only that, it's like I'm getting murder. I know how to like talk about ship more and more. Truly, I'm like, oh, these are like two very smart, good cool people. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, of course. I have been on their podcast two times that I feel like cheated on you by going on there their podcast without you. But guess what, I'm my own person, yea, and I will go on

any podcast that accepts me. And when they excepted me to be on their podcasts the second time, I did say I accept the invitation and we went on and had a fabulous time. I was. I listened to that episode was fabulous. I had such a fabulous and we just had a shot of whiskey with them, and guess what it's slammed me. Oh what was the kind of whiskey that it was? It was the Taiwanese. Oh, what's it called an aged cav cavalan. I was about to

say Kavanaugh, which would have been bad. Have you said Kavanaugh? Had you said Cavana. I would have stormed out, and I didn't. I don't want to talk about her. I don't want to talk about her. But Andrew brought me these boxed fruit. Well he didn't bring me in a plastic case, these fucking these these Asian pears in a in a styrofolm mesh. May I smell the fruit? Yes, oh, you haven't had Asian pair, but you've had Asian pair before.

I would like to try in one right now. Well you can't really, it's more of a thing that you cut up. It's like you know, or you can bite into it. But look, oh, it's the most beautiful fruit. What is this rapper? It's the it's the start of a mesh. Take a bite, just take one bite into it. Then it'll be yours. What a gorgeous sound? What do we what do we pay? I love this pair. It's a great pair. It tastes as good as it looks.

It's a very big pair, and the taste is big, and the taste it's very sweet, and it's gorgeous natural sweetness. That's the whiskey. And what I mean, so nice of them to come bearing gift. Can you can you even I really, can you even can I'm already having a great having Can you believe we haven't even introduced we haven't even introduced them? Can we say that the host of yours this racist podcast on Yes Miss air A Wolf Network network aer A Wolf Network, Yes, honey, which

is really the president of network podcast Networks. I'm telling you I had one shot and I can't wait for this wild ride. I'm strapping myself in Wow. I mean, you can catch them on their amazing podcast, was this racist? They're they're talking talking about race, talking to guests, taking calls. It's truly the best, most entergy. Sometimes sometimes the calls can be psycho. The calls are and that's why we love the cause as a listener, That's why I love

the calls. And they don't make you think, and they do make you think, um uh. You can catch um brock Meyer coming coming up in April. Um. And you can catch our guests sometimes popping out our one guest sometimes popping out of a cab in Vancouver and us being like like, oh what, And then we all got drinks and then we'll hold on you will you usually and then and then you can kind on Andrew to just bring a delicious sweet fruit. They are bringing it,

and I'm so excited that this episode is happening. This is a true gorgeous crossover moment. Please welcome to your ears, Tod you and sorry I cut you off. I got so excited in the same way that I got excited when you shrieked my name in Vancouver, because that's when I was a period of five days where I lost

my phone. Yeah, you traveled to another country like a luddite, and hearing two people I didn't know we're there say my name in a friendly way made me feel seen in her in a way that I had truly I had truly been in the dark. Oh my god, I have nothing, and then you gave me a ray of light. Thank you, Thank you, Andrew. Longest you've gone without your phone, longest I've gone without my phone about I guess about

like eighteen twenty minutes. Okay, that's beautiful, and actually I admires you keep it with you in the at like the gym. You just fully what I do is I've been playing poker on the exercise bike. That's fun. It's because I just I hate being on the exercise bike so much, so My reward is playing on line poker for bitcoins, I think not in a not strictly legal did did I know this about you? That you you do? You possess bitcoin? I only got enough to play poker

on this like not legal, which is how man? It's like point zero ones yeah, yeah, yeah, I got three hundred dollars worth of bitcoin, which is like yeah, point it's exactly point one five. It doesn't matter. The point is beautiful. Um yeah, I've been playing. Wow, how you wk that? Parent? I just say something. This pair is like a cake. They're they're really sweet. This pair is unrivaled on This pair has the hot rating from the five stars. I will just say this, and we could

even do this. Uh, try it, try it just a little chilled. They're really good. Just not cold, but just like a little like just just out the fridge and then warm it up, like like a little more than you would a white wine. Beautif have you tried this pair? My childhood bitch? This is outrageous. But box fruit is mad Asian. Mad Asian. It's like you went to Martin just came straight here from that. I mean it hypothetically could be like I did go to the Korean star

literally minutes right before I came. And that's beautiful and why why would we why would we judge that? I mean, but I went the extra Chinese mile and I did tear the Korean stickers off the pears because you didn't. You you wanted to the Chinese experience. Yeah, I wanted to go full Chinese. You wanted to snofy pears taking off the Korean label. Okay, it's not that cool in some ways. No, no, no, but like okay, Andrew, I

think you touched on this thing right before we hit record. Yeah, and it's truly like it's truly it completes me in this way that you that we're talking about this kind of stuff, because I do feel very unmoored as an Asian now where it's just like I don't talk to I don't I just don't like interface with enough of any part of the culture anymore where I'm just like, oh, that's right, I grew up with chilled Asian pair. Yeah.

Well here's the other thing. Well, part of it is New York, yes, because Southern California a lot more Asian people, yes, uh, sorry, a lot more. I get where you're middle classy Asian people that like interact with the places you're likely to

be um. And also I will say that this is the other part of it, is that there's this weird thing of like thea is that in southern California there's like kind of like pan Asian nous where hence the Koreans are like so there's not as much flattened into so there's not as much Chinese nous specifically, but like Mandarin speaking Chinese nous. Also we're like I don't know, wait, okay, we're just getting full. I love it. It's adding a texture to the conversation. It's adding a crunch, it's a literal.

It's giving gravitas to an already like beautiful. This is literally top five best things. A. Wow, they're really good. I'm not even kidding. This is so good. It's beautiful. I love how big it is. They're the size of a softball, like regular I'm come on, as dense as a softball. Even yeah you can, oh my god, you kill someone, kill someone. It's heavy. It's heavy. They're very heavy, a lot of a lot of water. Sweet but not

too sweet, sweep and not tweets. Okay, So while while these two while these two yellow like this is the perfect way to let you guys have space this conversation. It's just feed the non Chinese people. So we are quiet and we listen with support our listeners that are like anti me, like this is but do you guys please go free to trainment. Okay, So you're so Andrew and he was also getting Andrew also getting into your family Oh yes, yes, yes, and your and the family

ILK or whatever it was. So my my my last name is T which no one else besides the people related to specifically my dad are named because it's like a weird transliteration right in the Chinese. Our name is d D. Yeah wait, I mean is that third tons a d D second second d um and it's it was like like the brief window in the seventies where

they decided d's where tease. So like even people with my same Chinese last name would probably arrive at I don't know immigration in San Francisco today and be told they're like d I or D or something like that. Yeah, so yeah, that's briefing the seventies where they said mount said tongue yes, yes, yes, and and yeah, yeah exactly that that's the same character in fact that's been yeah,

wrongly transliterate or whatever whatever, That doesn't matter. But the other thing is, so my family's like name is like basically like horse. It's like horse farmer kind of people. We were basically like aty Mongolians, like we would we would be the ones that didn't overthrow anyone, got it, which is honestly chiller. Oh my god, the nicer Mongolians. I think we're bad at it though. I think it's

just bad being bad at being conqueror. I mean there's a fucking that is my vibe though, like kind of mean, like really bad at it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're a little better at it. I don't know, just's just soak in a cocktail like this would be this would do you know where I went last night? Tell us where sir? Oh you did it? And I had a Leshi Martini and I'm thinking, what we need is

this pair. The Lichi martinis are so fucking done. I mean it's like they I think Asian pear martini martini or just again that one Asian pair and one shot of whiskey. Neat that's the mixed ring. And then here Matt Rodgers off to the races, just you. She took her Asian whisky and mixed it with some kombucha, and now she's got a fine bourbon. I'm an innovator. There was this kombucha sitting here on the counter. Yes, is

as a counter table. I'd call it a table, but you know, if you want to call it a counter sidled up to the culturalist discounter. We had like a staggered ways of taking the drink because it was a small amount. It was the end of it, on the end of a bottle. That so we split it between five folks and some people were badasses and took it like a shot. Are you yeah? You did more? Lovely full white friend Alex did right. I tried to sip it, but then I went one step further. I went one

step towards soccer mom. I said, I need a spritzer. I said, put some Lacroix in my white wine. I can't possibly drink liquor straight. The next best thing was this kombucha, and now it's like a little bourbony whiskey ginger on. You found the classiest route. Congratulations, nothing wrong with a chaser. I have to say, listen, nothing wrong with the chaser. No, is there something wrong with this? Bear is so juicy, it's so you may I can't stop talking about it or thinking about stick. You guys

may straight up need a roll of paper towel? Does that exist in this univerit? Can we get something with every body? I'm sucking the juice. I don't need to tape paper towel. Really enjoying this, enjoying the nectar. This is unbelievable. I swear to God, this is like a dessert. I'll never near ice cream again. I can't talk. I can't even describe to you. I mean it fully is dessert and a lot of Chinese it is. Yeah, just play the fruit chilled fruit been Matthew, where have we've been?

I don't know, like I will say thank you, thank you for the napkins. So anyway, let me just last night it sir, Yes, Tuesday night? Okay, what kind of crazy women in bandage dresses hanging in from the ceiling. That's what the Wrong side of l A does real. I mean, they'll escape eventually, but it's crazy like Tuesday night was absolutely crazy. It was a scene and there was a wait for tables. I got there at eight p m. We had to wait twenty minutes with a reservation. Whoa. Yeah,

it was crazy. And then it got really more busy as it went on, and then I was like, Okay, is this where they actually filmed Vanderpont Rules? That was that where that happens? I think that pump now probably, but it is the other one. What's the other one? I have to be honest with you, I do not watch the show, despite being a die hard Real House as a Beverly Hills fan, Um, I don't watch the show.

But I'm confused as to wherever they filmed Vanderpont Rules. Like, is that service staff actually the cast of that show? I think they all think it was at one point, and now they have to like put in they have to like it's like they have to put in enough shifts to technically qualify as still a waiter. You know, you get paid servers wage on top of scale, honestly, and how and how? And it was a fun time. Would you eat? I had a lobster bisk and angel

hair pasta dish. What was the sauce um? Still obster besk? Yeah, just double biscuits. But I'm really I'm really, um, I'm really kind of finding that in l A you can't go out to eat without spending less than thirty five dollars. Like all unch are expensive. I'm gonna say this. I know I've come in extra Chinese hot today, but but l A, if you get ethnic ship, you can eat better, and you can eat for less than thirty five dollars. That's straight up why I live in Koreatown. Yeah, beautiful

to consider it. Here. Here's my food line is, as long as we're talking New York, l A. New York is way better if you're spending more than let's just for inflation, since I lived their last forty five dollars per person, you're spending more than forty five dollars per person in New York is way better if you're spending less than thirty five you know, I used to say twenty five. But yeah, but if're just spending less than thirty five dollars, l A is way better. Really. That's

the windows, the Yeah, that's the sweet spot. Yes, where you sort of hit but just just go to go to like you know, strip malls and and all that stuff and like and and as long as you don't think of like the dinner as having to be part of the entertainment portion of the night out, Like go get a good meal for cheap and then go to a box because it will be next to a car wash. Yeah, it will not be like, yeah, it's not a scene. It's like the food, yeah, because the places that are

scenes are not good for good food. Well. The strip mall aspect of l A culture is is I think one of the most overwhelming things for me as sure, coming where I'm just like there's so many yeah, and there's there seems like it seems like there's cool stuff and all of them. You got your dentists, yeah you yes, you got your thank to a dentists, sucking immigration lawyers, um, and you want to go to all of them. Yeah,

that's how they have the one spot. I'm gonna set my pairs down, turned yours into like a delightful little meteor pairs. When I'm eating parents, is that I like to eat all the skin first, and then you go for our further. But then you but then you're just holding on to you got you got your grip on something sticky the whole west rest of the way with a full zucchini, I just want to get that tough flavorless down can say I'm high risk. Okay, well I'm

sorry Tony. You eat you eat this zucchini rong. No, I was just trying to participate. Oh, I was very concerned. Yeah, that would be I have a way. I have a way. We can literally truly toss Tawny into participating, and that's by asking the question. So on less culture Asis, we ask all of our guests a question. That question is what was the culture that made you say? Culture was

for you? This is the defining pop culture of your life that you can like think back and think, oh I am who I am probably because of my media diet at this crucial time, and what did that include? Um? So, I do think that it was trying to just uh replicate, trying to only listen to music that my mother was listening to, and not because it was all good, but because it was all things that my mother liked and I liked her. I wanted to relate. I wanted to relate.

I liked her, I liked when she played things, and I felt like a little grown up. So and this is gonna swing wild, So I need you to buckle up. I love that that's how that's how I do. It's it's not a safe ride. This is a go kart word. Okay. Um, So let's start with a Stevie Wonder Catter than July songs in the key of life, those around heavy rotation in my home. We're doing good so far. Let's talk about Anita Baker, Oh my god, caught up in the Rapture of you. I was like twelve years old wearing

my mom's and we have a musician. It taught me to saying. It taught me to close my nose when I sing. It taught me to close my eyes and never open them when I sing. So those so we're doing okay. Then we're gonna swing wide and we're going to go to Toto. We're also all of it. We're also going to dive deep into the eagles, and then we're also going to give you a swipe of Tricia year would So this was my CD changer, is what

you're hearing, and its five CD changer. Yeah, it actually was a six CD changer in which I probably put the sticks Greatest Hits album and the number so you know, it was my mother's wide swinging musical taste one time, when I was thirteen years old, she went to a Parliament Funkadelic concert and she got it signed for me. I did not know who they were. But after that, you better believe, I learned better believe. I said, I want to know who these men are? Who said Tony

go and get it girl? I want to know who George Clinton is now? And then I found out, um so, but yeah, but it's Clinton. Yes, it did not make me popular. It did make my mother and I able to bond um and I still hold some of those albums. Popular with your mom is still popular? Still popular? Ever? Want I want to dive into once particular musicals. You've mentioned musical arts that I'd like to discuss this Trisu Year would yes? Please please? We started this in the

halland we have to continue. We did because I sang a little bit of how do I Live? And then you threw at me. I pounced like a jaguar. You had said, when you sing how do you how do I live? What is the canon for you? Is it lean rhymes? Is it Treasha Year? Would? And I unfortunately had to respond to leanne rhymes. Now understand, I grew up on Long Island, where the pop sensibility was going

to take over. We really didn't know Treasia year Would, although I will say this, I first found out that Trisha year Would had a version of that song at the Oscars that year. Because the three nominated songs where I Think like Sunny came Home from How Do I Live? From conne Air performed by Trisia Yearwood on the Oscars, and the winner My Heart Will go On from Titanic, sung by famously Titana. It absolutely was really amazing year for cinema. Wait, I don't believe any of them. Why

don't you look it up? Maybe I will? And My Heart Will Go On one? But how Do I Live? I remember watching and I was like, oh, that's not leon rhyme singing that song because Trisia Yearwood did it um in Conair. And I do enjoy Treasia Yearwood much more now. She's got one song called Georgian Rain that makes me cry, and one of my favorite songs of all time that really puts me through it is called this is Me you're talking to? Oh? Yes, yes, yes, I remember with this so hard. I also don't know

what we were talking about this a little bit. The division between the Leon Rhymes Heads and the and the yearwood Heads, Like, I feel like media did that to us. They made us war. I couldn't I couldn't find it. It's very hard to google. I truly can't. And you're drunk, don't do it drunk? Okay? So and what do you what for? Because I truly have no I'm someone who has no attunchman to either of these women explained the divide, explained the war. What is it? Is it purely the

locus is the locus the song. I believe it must have started with the song, but there was also Now imagine little twelve year old Tonny trying to be my thirty two year old mother. Imagine back then, I feel like the Lean rhymes Is, the Dixie Chickses and even the Shanias were more in a pop country. They were

a young word vibe. So the grown folks who were listening to Ship, who are listening to the Clint Blacks and the Garth Brooks and the George Straits and all these like silky voices who were really like considered the new traditionalists of country music, harkening back to the you know, the Lauretta Lens and the Dolly partners of it all. So when in the nineties we had these new traditionalists kind of re establishing the genre as less poppy, less uh,

you know, suburban rock in a cowboy hat. Um. Then all of a sudden you had these young poppy girls come up, and it was like, no, no, no, no no, we're grabbing the Vince Gill, We're grabbing the silky voice Vince Gill of it all. Um. But so you can beat back at the poppy girls, we couldn't. And Leon Reims has a fantastic voice. I don't know why I was so mad at her. They were not only three nominees. It was Titanic, Will Go On Anastasia Journey to the Past,

Connor How Do I Live? Good Will, Hunting, Miss Misery and Hercules Go the Distance. I don't know why I said that, um, but Titanic was the winner. And you know what I feel like, that whole era though, of music was like the posers versus the authenticity, that same conversation, that's the same thing people were saying about I don't know Nirvana and Pearl JAMS's Nelly and fifty cents exactly.

Nellie was the poser in that scenario. I believe the band aid he never had an injury, which justify unhurt. It's an aesthetic ambellishment. It's okay. I also feel like fifty cent like in his lyrics, it's like, okay, you really have like fucked this way. Yeah, it's like Nellie, it's like, I don't know, yeah, we gather that. Like here's the thing. Here's the difference between fifty cent and Nellie.

You feel like fifty cent could actually tell you specifically what it tastes like when you give kind of lingus, whereas Nellie's like, when you go to a place with a lot of people gets warm in the room, he's literally shut up. He's imaginings like take off the clothes all alone, dates from the mirror. I think it's yeah, he's like, he's like, I think the way a temp but y'all works is when people get it in the

room gets hot. That's good. Fifty cents like, tell orient over here because I have Yeah, I know that it works. Diff couch. I stared at the invitation of their palm prints on the couch, like the hemingway of that good candy shops woman. I HOMOPHOBI yeah, exactly, candy shops still quote unquote slaps. I mean a lot of these songs slap you know the shop. If you go back and listen to any Twain song, they all slap the I'm gonna get you to matter that I'm gonna get you Joe,

don't worry about that. You can bet you about him daughter, and I'm and gonna be man just like a should I get you good slap? You know? Okay, so you got a car that don't impress me much. Honestly, that don't impress on me much. Incredible, it's an incredible that's when impressed on you match the rap she does. It's literally like one to get on the floor, turn around, looks at the door. Yeah, it's a it's a dozy

dope on the floor. There were so many. Also, do you know what is an underrated Naya bob which was later in her garb is a bob let's talk about it, keeping you forever for that's a ballot. Listen to it again. Okay, that just can be bob's excuse me, I will always love you, not a bob. I'll always love you is a bop that slaps. It's actually a rule of culture number eleven, I will always love you. That slaps I

don't fully agree with that. I was gonna say, I feel like I've never seen anyone to have to do something under so much dresses a hostage and I always love you, Fa And I will say this. I watched the Whitney's documentary on a vat. Of course, it ends so sad. We have you? Have you seen it? I actually seen it and left it. We've seen it play out, petting more details about that. You can't be better? Were we in this? Were we together? The night that she died?

We were at Skindmore. We were at Skidmore. It was senior year at Skidmore and someone in the theater shouted, Whitney Houston just died. Okay, can I tell you something. I wasn't there. I wasn't the college. And the musical director of murat sad was like, this gay guy and you were at you were truly I can I can I say this? We've been through this so many times before this podcast. You were at your worst at that point.

I was. But he literally goes, hey, guys, um, we're gonna run through the show and uh, dude, for Whitney. Remember remember like, and he was like, he turned over it looked at me and I was like, come on, I know who you're talking about. Do you think it's someone else, but it's someone are honestly, don't cut it out, but replace it with the sound of me chopping on this pair that it's very similar. I have to oh, here you go, here, you go here? Fast? Am I

getting sloppy? Fast biting is the worst? And that was that was incredible, so good. There is no worse offender with eating loud than Bo Yang eats the loudest in the West. And don't bring race, but come to the East if you want to hear loud eating God like, just kidding. I don't want to go to the East. I do want to go to the East because I

want bowen to. I want to go to the East because I want about with joy, he keeps he keeps like really kind of sticking it in and bringing it off about this, what do you mean I want to go to Shanghai Disneyland. We will go. He needs to go. It's cool. He needs to go to all the disneys. That's his thing, all the disneys. But also I think it's just outside of Shanghai. They have that like fake

Paris that like is basically abandoned. Oh no, that's that's so, that's so post millennium Chinese that it's so bleak, and said it might might have been from the nineties of the eighties. No, no, it's it's like recent issues. It's like and it's abandoned. I don't it's either. I think it's like people never moved in and I don't know. It's all of Paris, but it's like a French some bullshit, because Chinese people are weirdly obsessed with France, but they

can never execute it without it being so goddamn. It's the tackiest ass ship on earth. It's great. So this is like a haunted empty Paris with Chinese flavor. I mean, like, if if there was like a way to have cool Chinese cinema, it would be the setting for the best indie movie. Yes, ever, just like fake Paris that some communists decided they should build. God, I disagree. I thought the Meg was a fantastic The Meg you do own it.

I own it. I bought it for nineteen American Dollarsby tried to make us watch this ship on New Year's Day, everyone was hungover, Andrew was coming, and then then did you in fact watch it? We did not. Everyone shot me down, But I okay, now walk us through the mag is very briefly, what makes it a great film. What makes it a great film is I was hungover one day. I had scrolled through every option on the iTunes, Netflix, HBO,

Hulu offerings of movies. I had either seen every single fucking thing on an airplane or had no desire to see certain things. Then if we placed this in a time This was very soon after the Meg came out, Yes, after I came out and I said, oh, you know what, I want to watch that silly, fun romp movie on Old you know, marble Mouth Jason Statham. It's got cute little children in it that are smarter than they their years. You know this will be a fun thing, Rain Wilson,

isn't it. It's a romp with real cool c g I and a scary shark like the ocean, and these fun Chinese actors that they're trying to push on us. Yes, just like a djun. Yeah, she was great. She might be dead, guys, really hope she's like fully like disappeared by the government. In a way that's like, who knows, it's very scary. I had it set in my heart, in my in my mind that I needed to see The Meg and no other film would do. Because I

scrolled to the end of Netflix. And when I finally convinced my husband, I said, this is what we're going to rent. He was like okay, And I went to rent it and you could only buy it. Only buy it, and I said, I'm not going through this mental hell again. This is our purgatory and we have to do this. So we own The Meg. The only other films we own our Paddington too, and uh and l a story I believe. Yeah, I heard, it's great, it was fun.

We mentioned when my nephew was in town. It was around you've you've made purchases after browsing fatigue, Yes, exactly. And it was a twenty dollar shark film that I have now watched twice. And I try to put my friends through whenever possible, right, I mean, I think you were figuring your New Year's Day party is a big gathering for your house, and if we're amortizing it by eyeballs, making everyone at that party watch it is the only way you're ever going to come close to recouping exactly

trying to get my money back. No, man, Andrew like the way you can reason through these things. It's truly I just truly beautiful. It's truly beautiful. Okay. Should we move on to Andrew with the culture question? I think we should, although I could talk about Mr Tricia for and I do want to say. I just want to tell all the cultures to listeners that there are a couple live performances of this is me you're talking to and Tricia gives you a performance, especially the performance which

is just acoustic with a guitar. She gives you everything you need. It's a beautiful song. I listened to it in some vulnerable times after my relation ended and whoa baby? It says something very specific lyrically, and we love that. Speaking of relationship, Tricia songs everyone Elso needs to listen to Where Your Road Leads that she sings with her

now husband Arth Brooks. That is a real moment with some live versions of him, where she comes out of like a missed build orchestra section at the whatever Staple Center wherever it is. Also, you gotta listen to Georgia Raine people because there's a line at the anim where she she's like seeing a lover after many years that she hasn't seen him. She goes, looks like, you made yourself a real good life. What else can I say?

The georger on a chess boky, it's so good. Also, listen to walk Away Joe that pous just to walk away Joe, I wanna believe it from the works, and do to see that he's a round kind of pair does he's going on? Megan Matter? That boy is just a luck away. I had to get in on one you guys. I'm sorry. I love it when both of you guys show that was really I just I just took that in. And speaking of we'll do another plug. Towny's other podcast, the Supergroup, where she makes songs with

comedians we do we Make Box is out. I Believe for free now, yes, you watch it for free because it was was it was I'm realizing the last two times I've seen you have been miracle times that I've just run into you. The last this time before we ran into her at the iconic moment where we went Tawny Vancouver. Before that was when I did Paul f Tompkins is spontaneous Nation, and I didn't know that Tonny traveled with the show, but she was improvising at the

Bellhouse and I was like, who's here? Then I said Tommy and it was such a fun said I drive the bus. You do not do bus? Can you imagine PAULA Tompkins on a bus? Absolutely disagree. I think it's hard to imagine him on a wrinkles, too hard for him to sit for that. Are you kidding me? Sitting on the bus and sear sucker? What do you think he travels in? He travels in full look his home,

and I've only ever seen him with a slight unbuttoned call. Okay, see that'sim, Elizabeth Holme shut like he's wearing a turtle. I literally, when I was out getting breakfast with Greta Titleman, I saw Paul Tompkins and I wanted I said Paul hey, and it wasn't him, and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, you just look exactly like Paul left Tompkins and he was like who. I was like, I'm sorry, but if you literally look like Paul yeah, like Paul Tompkins, you

know what I mean? Wait, went down to the dapperness and all that it was him. I could I could see Paul driving a bus in a costume before I could see him sitting on a bus. That's true. He could play a character. He could play Miss Frizzle's boyfriend who from Yeah but no, but Paul is none a bus. Paul is a penny farthing. That's yeah, the deal, but a penny farthing bus. Two big front wheels, wheels, so beautiful, beautiful. We asked the question, Andrew t what was the culture

that made you say? Culture? Was for me the same question as Tony. But the time for you, this is going to be wrong because I I went ahead and to prepare for this was listening to when you guys had Andy Beckerman and Naomiic, two lovely folks, and you guys asked them the question what's the culture that you know? And there are a couple, so so maybe that was more anyway, So, but you asked them what was the

culture that sort of binds you together? We had already had Naomi on Oh god, I got it, I see, I see, But do you want to answer this questions? So that's why I was trying to think of the culture that binds and will answer that and then answer it for yourself if you have. You know what, honestly, the actual pop culture thing that buids us together might genuinely be Paul Hankins. Wow, I think it kind of is. That's beautiful because like we have very little overlapping in

music taste. Um, not like not that we hate, you know, it's just like it's not as much my thing. Sure, and kind of the same with movies. I don't even know. Yeah, but like you know, I watched all those like Marvel movies and whatnot, and you famously have. But yeah, but the other thing is is camping. I think, yeah, that's not not that we were. We were we were like, you know, really good like podcast friends. And then Tanny it was during the last meteor shower, during the last

meteor shower. It's in August. It's Tanny and her husband are really amazing like outdoors people, and so she organized the little trip that I went on, and I kind of like rekindled like then I went. Since then, I've like I bought my own tent. I got like a knife, you got a knife, got a knife, got a good night, good NiFe. This is straight up fucking wait making. I don't know about this. I'm anti weapon. What's the tools for cutting your giant Asian pair? And what do we

think about that? Well, look at me already trucking along, having already ever consumed this entire pair. I needed to night. It's like it's like the mouth not I want to cut something from my hand and I want to get something, honey, a scissor. Okay, So this is matts Okay as to be, I would say, Matt, Matt and I are very outdoor verse. Not we're not that we're we have a version to the outdoors, but we we would never it would never occur to us camping. I wouldn't. I wouldn't rather or

be out there. So talk through this, talk through the appeal. It was well, so I was a like boy scout but kind of under duress and like I hated it, and like everyone like I just like I didn't like being there. And instead of um doing my senior project that or the project which takes a year, I like

fully just did LSD instead. I was just like, funk this, I'm dropping on on boy scouts and literally I'm going to do every second that I would Otherwise I've been in boy Scouts, I'm going to be doing you were a team doing d Yeah, I was like, what's your relationship with it now? But before we like, I haven't done it in a long time. But I'm not against We're we're like a new sort of I mean, we haven't done a psychedelogy twice. Two weeks ago was a

little bit. Um was a little bit more up and down than it was the first time I did it. Do you think that it was too much or just like not, No, it was it was an environment thing. It was reigning outside and we were cooped up in a house and I would like to have the option to go to about you know what I mean, and then like we could, but it was just like I

don't know. Yeah, So I have a really different and I think not typical association with guff like that because I was doing it a lot as a teenager, and that means I was doing it kind of a lot, like by myself and often in my room and ship like that. Um and because and this is gonna, I know, this is bonkers the thing I want to say next, But it's like I would do I did a lot

of acid because I actually in my like bad. Logic at the time was like, oh, this is like the least I'm least likely to get caught doing this because it has very little physical paraphernalia. It's a little tiny piece of paper. So my logic was just like, well, they're not you know, they're not going to find even a lighter, you know, or any other dummies have like a handle of vodka stuff. So I just LSD all

the time. So I would like like the most claciation, just like listen to the Velvet Underground and Beyond Acid and like look at like pop art and like watch a little bit of TV but not much. Yeah, truly bonkers ship by myself. So I like being cooped up when I'm on psychedelics. But it's also I was like in a very comfortable place, and I still kind of maintained that, like all my friends like to like do mushrooms and walk around, and I'm like, last time I

did mushrooms. I literally listen to comedy like stand up on Spotify just like and it just started like I was just like like I'm not you know, I like him as a person, but like Anthony doesn't like stand up isn't like exactly my speed but that we were listening to it was so funny. I was just like, I love this ship. It's fucking incredible. It was like an old album that that was, you know that kind of the dated and was like dated, you know, yeah,

problematic in many ways. I'm sure I don't remember it because I was on drugs. You the stuff tails with you actually camping because during the piece of the whole point of it's not he's straight up at eight PM, was like, I don't give a funk about them rocks. I'm going to bed. Went to bed both nights. I was like two stoned and I was just like I'm going to bed, and everyone's like, are you sure, And

I was like, yeah, I ask you guys. In the morning, I built like a viewing past these cushioned like laying that. I had all these outdoor pillows. I wanted this bohemian I wanted my like Coachella. I wanted like my mountainous outdoor looking at the meteors smoking weed. Coachella. There's nothing more Coachella than someone being too fucked up to beat to get Yeah. I love that about you. You're a good because you don't like you're not like what are

we doing now, or what's next or win's dinner? Like you just do whatever the fuck which is the best, okay, but like I can't get past just like the the survivalist aspect of is that that that's not the right word, but like that really like just like the the like that there's a difficulty in a lot of basic functions. Yeah, I don't like being uncomfortable. Well, so for what it's worth. First of all, if you go with Tony and does does he like having his name mentioned on podcast? He

doesn't have a choice at this point. His name is Nate. Look, they have they have like such a comfortable set up there. They're like the people that have like five of everything, so you can't even forget something. Now we got it, you know, and we went to uh that campsite was it's as easy as yeah, instead of it's not like a k o a where you've got like kids and water slides and ship. But it is a very comfortable. It's car camping, you know, so you're bringing all your

stuff in your car. You're right there and like we make a full huge meal. We don't go like, oh we're outdoors, everyone eat a hot dog. We made like very extravagant food because that's part of it, Like you want to sit and just like eat and the meal. Oh we did am so I did collared greens. I always famously away. Um what else was in that? Mean? We also did a huge Thanksgiving camp out, so I'm miss that one. Let's say there was. There was the first the first night, like a full union work. We've

been sitting at this table for four days. Uh Nate's friend whose name escapes right now, made like had brought like all this crazy. So we had tacos the first night and then sausages raised things we have like we usually do, like a reduced like braised mushrooms thing which you can either put over the meat or like for the vegetarians, like it's kind of an entree on it's only the big King oyster mushrooms from the h Mart.

Thank you pears and pears, Thank you pears. But yeah, but I will say, okay, so for people who are like the outdoors isn't for me, and maybe it truly isn't, but if you have the right gear and it does take a little bit of shuffling. I definitely went through phases where I had the wrong things, and I was like, oh, I don't like sitting in these trash chairs. Just because it had a cup holder, I thought I would buy it,

you know. Um, but what I always say about camping and like, I also like to do backpacking where your everything and you really can get away from people. The most beautiful things to see on this planet either they cost one of two things, either a ton of money or a ton of effort. And I don't have the

first thing. So I would rather spend as much effort, like hiking to a thing, or like bringing all my food in weird containers and pitching a tent in order to see like these beautiful vistas, or go to the top of certain mountains that other people can only get to with like a helicopter. You know, I am interested in seeing beautiful things. However, I would like to ask you about another element of the world. Don't say no, I'm not going to say barras. However, I am going

to say coyotes. So so just to illustrate there, just to illustrate how like fully fully safe this campsite is the first night we forgot to put away like half of our food food very sto setting out on touched and raccoons. Yeah, literally, not even raccoons. I will say that one time, camping up Big Sir, I did see a raccoon steal to not one, but two bags of family sized funions from some food next to a raccoon. Because I feel like it's shust it away a coyote.

You will not sh raccoon. You think you. A raccoon is so bold. A raccoon gives no funs about you. A raccoon can practically talk. Their thumbs are so opposable they almost have speech. A raccoon will stay in your face, you will climb on a picnic table. You just have to stand and wait for him to go away. World, Can I tell you what I happened upon the other day, I went through a for a hike um Griffith Park. Yeah, what I happened upon on this hike happened to be

a different level in here too long. And then we had the pears. We're looking at you guys floating in outer space on the amazing the back. So there is like they're just floating brains and that's where we are. I feel relatively grounded. But you talk about this HOWK Speaking of floating. This hawk was flying in mid air. I've never seen anything like this. Hawks can just stay in one spot in the air without even They are, in fact like a kite and the other original germ.

And you know what happens on hikes many people bring will bring their dogs with them. Yes, oh yeah. It was clear to me I'm trying that the hawks were trying to eat the dogs. And I was like, I said to Greta. I said to Greta, it was me, Greta and Blair and Abe. And I said to Greta and Blair and I was like, have you ever seen a hawk attack a dog? And they had to report to me that yes, they had seen this. And I said, to the dog, make it, and they had to report to me that no, the dog in fact did not

make it. It was just ship that stood no chance against the hawk. And then I said, well, that hawk's not going to attack our dogs, of which we had to how big were they? And I said they want to tack our dogs and they said, we don't know that, And at which point in time they picked up their dog held them close to their chest and that was the only way they could be confident knowing that the hawk's not going to attack kill dogs. Know there's something

about this story. The two dogs are named Bernie and Tiny, and they live up to their names. Bernie and that he's like a Bernie Sanders older dog, and Tiny and that he's very small. I voted for that first. Who was I supposed to vote for? We don't know. Um I have seen. I thought this was just a cute, cie thing, but maybe it's a real You can get like dog sweaters that have little spikes on the back. And at first I thought it was like, oh, that's like a punk ha ha ha. But now I'm like, actually,

it's also anti coyote. I lived in the country. This is also probably why I don't have such an aversion to camping, because they basically grew up camping. My life was camping. I grew up outside. But our neighbor had a bunch of sheep and they would put a similar thing, probably not as expensive or cute, but like a spiky kind of cute, like a spiky jacket or like a shawl. Basically just a bunch of spikes on it. It's like a leather jacket, but right, but for function for dogs, dogs, Yeah,

a functional leather jacket like Fonzie. Yeah, had a natural predator. Yes, hawks did you grow up Michigan, Michigan? And then and the parents were what first gen? Just just putting through this is it's wild that I still don't know which is which they immigrated. So I had to like figure this out from I had to define for myself once and for all. First generation is them, They're the first immigrant generation. I'm second generation. I'm second got it. Yes,

it's ridiculous that I don't know that. It's crazy that I didn't know this until very recently. Yes, I always thought it was like the first generation that is born here. That's that's what I thought. I think it's formal technically, like the the agree to pun definition is the first to emigrated. No, that makes sense? Um I yeah. My parents, uh I met in Michigan in I mean back of the envelope had to be the seventies or maybe the

late sixties. I guess the free pre there was this whole like thing where my parents like couldn't think there was a time in China where you could not so they well, no, no, the shitty horse people. Oh yeah, so so that was that. That's my dad's family. They were on the rang losing let's say, wrong side, wrong, I'm losing side of the Chinese Civil War. So they my dad grew up in Taiwan, but he he was I didn't. I only found this out like a couple

of years ago. He was like straight up a refugee for like the my my youngest and worst aunt, Uh was born in a fucking refugee camp on like like the beaches of Taiwan. I was just like, yeah, this is where I'm being. And she went on to marry a white guy who's really I mean, if he was on our show, that's his name is family white uncle Michael. That's probably why she married him, because she's like, beats a refugee camp. He doesn't. But I hear that. I

understand how you could think that. Yeah, okay, so your dad basically so he grew up into in Taipei, Uh. And then my mom sort of similar. I don't know all the etymology of her chaos, but she grew up she was born outside of Hong Kong, but like grew up in Hong Kong in like, so my paternal grandfather or maternal grandfather who I've never met, h and he did. He did die a couple of years ago. I think Um straight up used like World War two to just be like start a new family. So he just disappeared,

abandoned my grandma with like five kids. And so my grandma was a single mom in the fifties and fucking Hong Kong with five kids, which is like it's like in the mood for love, but the most depressing version of that ship. So yeah, so they're like and so um, both my parents met in Michigan and they were just like fuck it, we're like the only ten Chinese people here, so someone's got to pair off eventually. Okay, so you know they love each other. Well, I don't know what

to say. It's like very immigrant where they're like they kind of tolerate each other and like whatever. Hard to imagine that, yeah, but yeah, hard to imagine them like liking each other at any point. But who knows whatever, they won't tell me. So right, it's that thing where it was like you grow up with these Chinese parents who like have their weird things about showing affection to each other or to you in ways that they refute,

like they withhold that. But then you see that sort of being normal in other Chinese immigrant families, and so you think that's normal, Yeah, it's not. Yeah, yeah, oh god yeahs And how your parents were, Yeah, I've seen them kiss maybe once, that's not true. Absolutely, yeah. I think zero times. My parents, uh stopped sleeping in the same room. I think when I was like eight, And I think it was only because we moved to a

house where that was an option. Sure, and it's the same, and like I feel like it you sort of are at peace with it as a as a child of that kind of marriage, because you're just like, well, yeah, it was. It's truly, like the circumstances are wild, and like they probably had to only think in practical terms rather than like you have to think of a man who emotionally like someone who a partner who can emotionally fulfill them in whatever. God, yeah, I mean are And

I think all of my grandparents had arranged marriages. Yeah yeah, my grandma my dad's side for sure, not my my maternal side, but yeah, but crazy. So it's like for them they're like, yeah, we at least got a choice some kind ro mantic um gorgeous. Okay, Can I say something that I've been thinking about Fonsie's natural predator is a hawk? Was the Time's Up movement? Okay, explain this because he was a misogynist and he was walking about.

Probably should. As far as we know, Henry Well actually famously Henry Winkler and the fons are two different people. It's actually real culture number Henry famously different people. It was just making sure that we were we were conflating. No, no, I don't. Yeah, I just wanted for the listeners and

of course well versed in all the rules of culture. Yes, I would never talk down to my listeners and assume they didn't know that famously, how many one the Fonds were two different people, and I will say that it's actually a real culture number. One hundred and one. The Fonds is natural was the Times Up movements. Had we been dealing with the Funds in the Times of Era, that show would have been shut down. Happy Days are here again, Happy Days are never more. I thought you

were proposing a maybe like a spec reboot of Happy Days. YEA. Honestly, I'm going to write the spectrum of Happy Days where the Funds tries and someone says no, you know what no means? No fonds and he says, hey, what do you mean. That's that's what he famously said, that's the thing that makes it to Twitter and then exactly exactly, it's like the snaky getting punched in the face. That's the thing, right, we never would have been consuming that

is entertainment nowadays. Now I do think Tony and Andrew, do you know all the rules of culture? What's what's your favorite? Rule? Our favorite obviously clearly four yes, there are you? Okay? Or seven is good to pay out okay, probably every time. At the same time, yeah, it's uh, Asian pears go in, Yes, that is wrong. Rule number one, famously Richards is can I think we I think we boot it and we do Asian pears coming pears. I'm mixed up. That's just it's three. Can I say something?

These Asian pars cam in a trio, so we hair your knuckle heads heads eating them? What are some what are some other Asian foods that we should that should that deserve to be popular? What do you think about the the uh, the pineapple cake. Oh, I don't think I've had that. It's like it's like the little oh, the tartlet, the egg custer, no, no, no, no, no, the but pine the pineapple. It's it's like a brick of dense pineapple. Oh, it's like a fake Newton but

slightly bigger. And you have it. You have a dim sum. Uh No, that's like a one of the one of the festival's food. It doesn't matter. Do you know what I've been enjoying lately. No one dragged me. Oh so, sure would that's the Hong Kong pineapple bond. That's different. I'll look it up. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a fake Newton, but it's like it's like fake Newton with pineapple in it. And I would just say they're kind of like like

maybe not quite sweet enough for a Western palette. But I actually think crushed up in like a ice cream or something a soft serve would be would be perfect for the Los Angeles area right now. This um, the internet says that this is a Taiwanese treat. That that explains. I got that info from an Internet site called the Walks of Life. So I don't know. I wish we didn't do. I don't know this this is I actually say, put a pin in that that make him come up

in a one minute. It doesn't matter in Epcot. In Epcot there is a a China pavilion, and the wh when you do that, when you do drinking around the world at Epcots, it is custom in Epcot, is the culture of Epcot to drink one cocktail from each pavilion, so that by the time you get around you've had eleven. Yeah, and how did the one that that's not continents or no, no countries, but just well, yeah, they picked an emblematic countries off the already Mexico, Norway, China. Then I believe

comes then it gets funny for me. I know there's a Morocco, I know there's a France. I know there's in England. I know there's a United States pavilion. I know there's a Japan, there's a UM Canada, there is Canada made Francia. Canada has a pavilion. What you just drink CC all day whiskey? Literally, I think when I

was a blue get out of town. But anyway, the Chinese, did you would you guys were in Canada, did you did you notice that there are other colors of labat This might be because we were in Vancouver that we were it's a little more so where when I grew up in Michigan, the drinking age in Canada's nineteen so we would drive across the Actually we were in the one place where you can drive down to go to

Canada down. Michigan is like that under the some I guess technically anyways, labatte green and ship Oh, that's insane. I don't know what flavors they are. I assume apple. Oh, it's flavor seems like non alcoholic to me. It might be a very well might Canadian listeners pack into the geo cashing and I don't know what they offer as a cocktail. There is cantalope juice with vodka. Nothing is that a thing? Thank you? Sweets? Chinese people like improbable juices.

See we've been juices. You can you can go to the you can go to the Chinese store, the ranch out in the San Gabriel Valley. You can get like a pint of Kiwi juice that sounds lovely. It's it's it's weirdly too sweet and too acidic at the same time. But because like it's a lot of it's like, probably I don't like an aggressive juice. It's really aggressive, Okay, but go to the candle up thing not at all emblematic of Chinese. Yeah, but it was weird. I didn't

know what I was expecting there. But I was like, at my to go, I had had obviously, I had had like a margarita, and then in Norway, I had like a Carlsberg like logger, like a nice the European beer. And then I went to the China Pavilion, and I really don't know what I was expecting. I guess like it actually sounds like that was the China Pavilion pavilion,

so it's like a shitty Chinese restaurant pavilion. But what would you think it would be like like like like like like Alchi martini, lumb wine if it's palatable, you know what. I think that they might have offered plumb wine, but I had already drank two different kinds of liquor, and so I was like, am I really going to fund myself plumb wine? You can like feel your teeth dissolving itself. I've had it, unreal, you know. I believe that's what they served at um Cottage. Remember we used

to go to Cottage. We used to go to this place. It was one of the only places that sorry that didn't car in New York, and we would go for it when we were younger, and it was like, um, was that wait? What that wasund It was embowering? No, no, no, no, no, it was aving place if you like more than an entree, more than eight right. They let you drink all the wine you could drink. So I had my birthday there, Okay, it was. It was the same business model at the

one by Columbia. It was so they did not ever ask for identification. I believe it was my twentieth birthday. We went there and like went a fucking town. I think I'm significantly older than you guys. Um. They used to not card a decibel when I was in that, like Japanese place on tenth and second, when did you live in New York? Uh? Through two? I put in a while, But yeah, when I didn't know you were that much older than us. Oh yeah, yeah, you're looking right,

genically frozen. You look exactly right. When I was a child trying to drink underage, we went to into San Francisco and we went to a drag queen bar called Asia SF. It must be on now, but it was so delightful and they did not card you, but you could not talk during the performances. Like they were basically like, you better fucking behave and we'll let you little assholes get sucked up. But like you, you will watch you will watch us sing, you will watch us do these numbers.

And it was great and you could eat like very overpriced terrible chicken wings and just like drink. Like at the time, we were all trying to drink cosmos. Because I never even watched Sex in the City. I just overheard my girlfriend's talking about it. It was like, I guess I want the pink thing that's hard to hold. It was a part of the culture. What is a Cosmo?

It's a pink martini, stupid martini with like, I think, this is like one of the worst, like straight guy things is I realized I only know it as a punchline from the Worst People on Earth in the City because because of that, Yeah, that's snuck into the lexicon. Also, by the way, I watched the Sex in the City in the movie, the Sex in the City movie on the plane. The movie is pretty good. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what is bad about it. Mr big

As a character is psychotically unrealistic. That man does not exist on this planet. Like the things he does in that movie don't make anything with the wedding doesn't make anything know that he just leaves her at the altar, like at her wedding at the New York Public Library? Are you fucking kidding? Like? And then he's like, what

am I doing? We have to go back? And then she's like she I knew that I knew, and I was like, okay, so and then don't they go to Mexico and she shames Miranda for not waxing, and I was like, what is the Messagetha shames Miranda for not waxing. Miranda cosmletely overreact and she's like what so like I made my husband, I don't care. And it was just like these women wacting insane, but as in saying as they were acting. Mr Big as a character is the

most unrealistic piece of ship. And also actually, now, I I don't think so. I had never seen any of the Sex in the City television program, so when I saw the movie, I was like, why do I care about any of these people? Only? But it was a nice way to learn about Jennifer Hudson. Oh my god, she's truly got awful on that movie. I'll tell you, Louise, it was. It was like an easy it was like a way to see her in another light. Agent did well,

what do you mean to New York to? Um, Now I have to ask Andrew one thing, just because I'm fresh off of this first tattoo. I'm truly just have one and and I'm truly just like waiting for the parental reaction to this, not that it matters, Oh yeah, my my. The only one I felt bad about was my grandpa was like kind of like, you know, bummed about it, like visibly bummed about it. That was the

only one. I mean, look, I have a whatever relationship with my parents as it is, so just like that was like whatever, deal with it kind of kind of I kind of liked the deal with it of it. Yeah, That's where I'm at. But it was it was f fine. They're they're very cool about it. Um, but my grandpa was. And my grandpa ultimately like was is I mean, he

passed away, but he was fine with it. You know, I don't know, I don't just say, but that was the only moment where I was, and my grandma was cool with it because it looks But the one thing I will say is that mine, mine is like old, old, old, and it's still like kind of bumpy and whatnot. Really skin does not take well to just trying to reject it. Still still it still hates it. It looks good though,

its cool. It's a little I mean, like like they didn't fully align the diagonesse, which I kind of like. I kind of like that. It's kind of imperfect. It looks great. I was, I was noticing that it looks a little um rugged on the bottom. Sure, um, but that's just you know, rug it on the bottom, baby baby, um where we're talking about cosmos, oh, sex in the city. We don't need to, but go ahead. I have nothing else to saying. I have nothing else to say, but

I am just reminding me that that's what is. I don't think so many will be thank you for the reminder. I didn't forget, but thank you, good, good good. Speaking of that, I think it probably is time to move on to our segment, which is called I don't think so, honey, which is our segment in which we take one minute of time to rent against something in culture that you know, what we actually hate and we need to talk about.

And in bringing up the Sex in the City movie and the plot points we're in, um they're in I have my I don't think so honey. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. And it's time starts now. I don't think so honey. The whole idea that Sex in the City ends with Carrie getting with Big because Big is emotionally abusive. Big is the emblem

of sublimating yourself to a man. It is crazy that, like Sara Jessica Parker as Terry Bradshaw is this feminist icon, and then she would return to a man who publicly humiliates her like not just once. Also, he fully treats her like garbage the entire series long. And what is so aspirational about him besides his money and the fact that, like there's some intrigue with these guys that like our dicks, you know what I mean. He's like a funck boy before we had the term for fun boy. That's obvious

to me. He's fine. Also, he fully like is a dick to her friends. Like it's really really annoying. I don't know if I like Aiden better for him, better than him, but I would say maybe Carrie should be single. And that's one minute that was beautiful, especially compared to the energy of this whole insane episode. I don't think so Honey was actually one of the most grounded things we've heard, because he was coming, he was rationalizing alone.

I feel, and I often feel like what I don't think, so Honey, I finally find what I'm going to say at the very end. Yeah, and what I would like to say definitively about Sara Jessica Parker a k a. Carry Bradshaw marrying Chris a Mr. Big is his name was John. I know that in the last episode of series you find out that his name is John, and I'm like, okay, so it wasn't even like he was I think you find out in the movie. You find

out in the last episode of the show. Um, I haven't seen much of any of that show or movie, but I did. The second one is basically like an incitement to class warfare. Oh yeah, they go to incredibly um insensitive yea and they should never be there. It's it's essentially a two and a half long, two and a half hour long commercial for Dubai but they're incredibly it must have been that and Fast and Furious, whichever

one that's in Dubai. Also, I felt like it was shot like with the same crew that just like they

just rolled straight into the other movies. Well you always know, you always know in these movies when like they're just doing a commercial for a tourism in another country, like whenever they go there for no fucking reason, which happens which also I believe happens in a Black Panther, uh like whenever they go to another country, and it's just like, yeah, well do buy it happens with the most Well yeah, because because I I suspect the there's a lot of what I mean, like so many movies like Take a

Johnt to China or like again and they have like a Chinese DJ or whatever as part of the part of the gang who they don't like or talk to. But it's that is just like so like I think it's got to be just like white movie exactly, being like there's money and we got we got to make these people feel like a part of it. We need them to be our audience. But actually, like if you notice it, which I'm sure you have, like more often

than not. Now, these big action films will include like one of the set pieces will include like an Eastern country they do. They do now different cuts that like there's a whole I guess Iron Man three has fully ten more minutes that are just like, isn't China amazing? Apparently I haven't seen it, but yeah, I believe it, just because it's such a huge part of the world now in terms of like where film is consumed in

such a huge market. I mean, we were talking about this the other day, not the other day, like I was talking about I believe Guy Brandam was the one that brought it up, and he was saying, like, you know, it used to be that, um, you could have like a mainstream film, it didn't need to appeal to international audience and specifically the Asian market. But that has changed now, Like in order to be like an internationally bankable movie star,

it's very important that you appeal to the Chinese market. Um, which is bizarre. Yeah, Like, as a Chinese person, I find it, Well, it's trying to appeal to the culture, but it's also trying to like but but then the culture is be like so it's also it's like people, It's like people like us are the closest that a lot of the people that make decisions get to that culture, and we're not that close tet culture target culture. And then it's like and then the target culture overseas are

the types of people who would build a fake Paris. Yeah, I'm saying I'm done with that. But also when you say we have to open it up to that culture, what you're also saying is like we have to like in a way limit diversity and representation because like they could, for example, they could I bet Love Simon wasn't released there, you know, in terms of gay stories that they are not culturally ready. They edited, Um, I mean this is the joke. Was the movie already, but they further edited

Bohemian Rhapsodies literally no gay stuff at all. Right. Yeah. The other thing that Chinese, the Chinese government hates his ghosts and because what is it because they're actually scared of them? I think unclear. I think it's because a lot of like the dissident cultural movements are around things like spirits and ancestral worship, so there there is an element of fear of God, of any kind of sight.

But I think the same with Winning the Pooh is like, but we don't talk to imaginary things with the pood specifically that it's the Prime Minister. It's the Prime Minister king for whatever reason, it's this dun't mean that. I still have not made sense around, Like I still don't know why the people compare him to Win of the Pooh, but like it's this joke. He looks like he doesn't

to me, he does not. Yeah, yeah, like as a cultural image, like Kingdom Hearts three came out and they cut out the Winning the Poop stuff and like he does like it does not. You cannot find Winning to Pooh anything in China. That's crazy. It's because he full Jewish Happen producer out. It's because he used to date someone named Christopher Robin. That makes sense. Okay, I'm ready. This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey, And

it must appeal to the Chinese market. And as time starts now, I don't think so many expensive T shirts. I'm wearing one right now. Expensive T shirts a T shirt to cost five dollars at most, and yet I'm being suckered into paying for these ninety dollar T shirts. Why because Urban Outfitters. Urban Outfitters was the beginning of the end for T shirts, for fucking conning the entire world into buying paying more than five dollars for a T shirt. And you know what, this is my appeal

to the Chinese market. I'm wearing come to our song beings, very very stereotypical nations. It's very so Asian to wear. But I feel like a fool. I feel I feel it's it's it's like an emperor Emperor's new clothes kind of thing. Where now I finally I'm I'm snapping out of it and I'm I'm looking at myself, I'm going, what am I wearing? Oh my god, it's a ninety dollar T shirt. I can only pay Old Navy all

the way, bring back old Navy. Old Navy is queen, Old Navy is cannon, by all your teachers, Adult Navy, and then silk screen whatever you would like onto that or by our T shirts at public dot com, slash store, slash last cultures. That's one minute. It is what a degree of difficulties so insane to me that you wouldn't dare get on this podcast and say I don't think so, honey, expensive T shirts. There is nothing you enjoy more than two more expensive than it should I'm saying you love. No,

I'm turning a cord. I'm rounding a corner now where I'm just like closer not cost as much. Yeah they shouldn't, but they also don't. It's the stuff that you buy. Yeah. No, I'm realizing this. This, this is a moment of self awareness. I'm leveling up. This is my journey. Okay. If I want to say two things from going forward, I want two things from you going forward. And if I don't see them, I'm filing for a divorce. One no cigarettes to no expensive designer T shirts. You can just you

want to buy an expensive designer sweater whatever. Fine, but sh short, bitch, I know, I know it. Just it's it's none of it aligns, none of it makes sense. Okay, this is can I can I confess the me to now? Classically and famously I do not plan things. So is there a trollable option here? Is that possible for the recorded but I know it's possible for the live show, but I did not know. Yes, we can pull one up right now. I haven't heard someone do it on

the recorded thing in a while in the student studio. Yes, because people don't close meaths, don't get fed, people don't ask for it, and the fact that you're asking for it is a huge deal. Thank you so much. Okay, so I have famous, I have something. Okay, I can't read what you're pointing out, so you go, tawny, yes, your I don't think, so, honey. Trollable topic is Salma yak. And now I don't think, so honey, Salma hyak because I have been forever confused if it is Selma or Salma.

I do not know if it is an A that we're pronouncing as an e, or if it is an e that we're pronouncing as an a. Maybe it's an a we're saying as an A. And I have just had the problem this whole time, Salma had I don't think so honey. You made the blunt cut very fashionable, and I could not have one when I was that age. My hair would not do it. So I don't think, so honey. You're making me want something I could not have.

I don't think so, honey. You essentially being the Latina Chloe seven Ye, you are both chic and you're basically a clothes hanger. Your shoulders seem to just want silk caressing them, and it makes me jealous. Your canon of work is good. However, I haven't seen you in a while. I don't think so, honey. Where have you been, probably raising children, in which case my hat is off to or doing anything else. You're allowed to have a life.

Whire people on you about what your career is and what should leave you a litte I don't think so, honey. The people who won't leave Selma or Salma, I don't think so. I didn't know that you weren't Johnny Depp's girlfriend for a while. Does she ever date Johnny Depp? And vibe? Yeah, so we should say flat out it is Salma okay? Well, and so it isn't a favorite thing about Salma Hi is she talks at this speed. This This is the pace at which Salma Hi speak.

English was the second language, you know. No, I think it's just her vibe. Her vibe okay, just disciplined. But I respect because of Frieda. I thought she was very good in Frieda. And also I respect her because she had a really hard time with Weinstein on that film, and that was her passion project, and she fought until she was like sick to make that work. But importantly, Tawny does not respect her apparently. I learned tonight that

I don't, and that's fine, and that's beautiful. When I leave this room, I will go back to respecting her. She looks great in a choker, absolutely or and you know, you know, the beautiful, gorgeous woman bombshell. Yeah, why did this get so weird the way you complimented her? Weird because it doesn't feel like I'm keeping she's she's to me the famously the person who is short but like seems monstrously tall. Yeah. Yeah, and she's actually quite short.

She's the best friend of Penelope Cruz, and I bet they're both like tiny, but she's mad when they stand together. You would think Penelope Cruz was a giraffe. Like there are people you look over to see an a t M. Yes, he speaking of that vague that look. This is my other gross straight guy confession is at the Emmy's. Was that the Emmys or the Grammys or whatever? I did not know that Casey musk Graves was not Nelly for Tado for fully, I just couldn't tell. I you know,

I see that. I just didn't know what was I was literally like, why the fund is singing with Dolly Parton right now? This doesn't make any sense. I know, no, I get it. How do you get it? They just all look the same with me. There you go, and there you go. These these little these mousey little songstresses running around women look the same too. I want to report that Matt Rogers has eaten his Asian pair down to now the size of a of a key lime. Get it, it's a golf ball. You're playing all the

sports with that. I really enjoyed it, you guys. It's a good fruit. We got like wiffleball sized. Should the title of EPI Asian pairs? Yes? Yes? What was the other one? Are out there? We've got some good candidates. We have some good candidates. We will we will counsel on this when on the Patreon yes, by the way, oh, we should just say right here, we do. We have not. We have not added new content to it for months

and months. Patreon's death, the Patren's dad. We're so sorry for the people who still supported us, but thank you for supporting us. But I do RuPaul's drags reviews and recaps now on what the Tuck and so and Matt and I are on different coasts now, so it's just harder to keep up, and we don't want to take your money while we don't put out in content that's specifically for a smaller audience, and so therefore we will be shuttering that Bow and Yang and are are in

an l DPR, a long distance podcast relation. There you go. So what I'm hearing is you guys have too much money and you can't accept it from I love that money, but my bank account won't allow more money. You hit the top. If you get any more money, it actually rolls over to zeros. It's like that. So every day, every day I have to buy a million things. Did you I don't know if you go. So when Tani was in was in Vancouver, at when she was in

Atlanta maybecouver also, but she stays book. When when Tony was that it was happening inside joke but also it sounds horrible anyway, But we had we had a month

or two where we were doing remote episodes. Tonny on the phone and your wolf set her up with maybe the most hilarious thing I've ever seen which was like a portable vo booth that was about I don't know, one point five feet you know, cube cube of that you basically had to put the microphone in and then stick your head in the talk it and she said a picture of it is. I'll see if I can find to keep talking her head in the box. It

was the funniest I've ever seen. It was, well, we do have to do, Andrew, I don't think so honey. Do you have something prepared? Yeah, we love that, I mean vaguely prepared. And also if you listened to it's different than what I did at I don't think so Honey Live, but a lot of similar themes. Here's Andrews. I don't think so honey, and I don't think so honey. To Asian Twitter being on that first draft tip, I

just am very so just today. Uh, I forget what it was, but every time Scarlett Joe it was, it was that Shang Chi is about to be the first Marvel superhero. And I just knew that. So many Asian Twitter people, who I love, many of them, We're gonna say I thought Black Widow was the first Asian superhero

because of Scarlett Johansson and I'm just thinking. This is my plea both the Asian Twitter and to all marginalized communities, because we I know, we've had to put up with a lot of shitty comedy forever, but I just really really want to just second draft, just second drafted. We are in a time of Asian I'm sitting in a room with Asian comedic excellence, and I just five seconds. We can do better. Please do better. I love you so much, but please do better. And that's one minute.

It's never good to be first thought. Thank you so much. After the thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm not good to be first though. I just can't go to a place where people I just cannot validate any tweets. After the announced emistone is hosting with BTS and musical guests and pee, a lot of people have been like, wow, an Asian episode and all Asian episode. I'm like, y'all can do better, we can do better. There's literally been millions of jokes about. It's like, yes, I just I just got to do better.

I know, and I get the instinct. Look, look, look, look, we all have the thought. It's a shared thought, and that that's what some comments, that's what some comedy is is it's a shared thought, It's an observation that other people share with you. But we've observed, we've observed it and all the persons of it. So many lessons on this episode, A lot of lessons. Oh, I mean, I just so many lessons on you. What is this? And here's the thing is you said that when you listen

to their podcast that you become smarter. And who knew that? As a result of them coming to Last Cool Trees with their Pears, with Andrew's parents, with the Pears, they have this pair podcast. They have made this pair and I'm pointing to you and I much smarter. This is a smarter pair. I would also say, may I take

the floor? I would like to say that coming on this podcast with Andrew's Pears that he sure um and and watching this pair and now I am pointing out the two Chinese gentlemen in the room, watching them have very tender cultural moments that they don't get to have very often, was very enriching for me. So, while I'm also smarter, but I also feel privileged in honor to have been able to crunch along with my fellow white brethren and listen it you guys are more Chinese. I

feel cocky. I'm staying away from the number four. Right. That's well, it's important that everyone knows I'm culturally Chinese Iranian. My parents are going in student. No one comes from me when they listen to this. And what do we say? What's your what's your Chinese? What do you say in Chinese? Now? Don't you don't have a Chinese phrase that you go to? I don't, And so I would like one? Okay, UM's one for that? Oh in Charlotte, Like, what's the equivalent

of God willing? So it's like um um, oh this is tough. Yeah, well we'll come up with one. I'm having. It has to be now it's like, oh see Wang maybe yeah, well that's just like I hope, but you don't really like she Wang? A lot of people listen to this. Yeah good, everyone listens to this. Want was literally matt match our pitch. Wa she won't she won't people listen to this? She won't? Honestly pretty good. I mean, but man's a musical person. I think he would very

pick up many. Yeah. The tones are a lot better, honestly, a lot better than my My cousin is dating this white guy who lived in Shanghai for like nine years, and so she's like a Chinese girl from San Diego who, like you know, never really embraced any Asianists and her white boyfriend. His accent is not great, but his vocabulary is expansive. Is hugely embarrassing from it, right? That is me? Yes, yeah, I like I wanted to express myself. Well see want

is hope? Yeah, see you won't see you won't Yeah? Like it pretty good? It's very good. Can I take the floor now? I really really enjoyed the conversation, the musical interludes, the references to tricks, to Leanne to Shania,

and then what was the harmony? Song was Joe? I mean truly beautiful meeting of the mind's musically, um, and I feel not only smarter but that this bit I said that, but I was able to see this pair come together musically and not as beautiful too, beautiful vocalists, Thank you, thank you, and you know that we are and you know that what we do and please listen to you. It's this racist and what we do at the end of every episode, as we do end with a song, and we end with the song and so,

and it comes, it comes to us very naturally. How do well gift that? If catallan, Oh need you in my you know, my one, my soul. Holy if you will lead, maybe you would take away everything getting in my life and to me. Now, how do I live without you? That's how I want to know. How do I worry without you? Give you ever go? How will I ever? Ever? How do I? How do I? How do I? By Leanne Ryan Forever. This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham, Joe Cilio,

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