"I Put One Finger Up and said YES!" (w/ Michael Hartney)

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ding quite so hard either. Matt, has been a long time since you're dr ding it's been um a while. I'm on the subreddit of people who don't dung their ding? Have you heard about this? The like the people who don't know fab It's like people who like live by this lifestyle trend of of not masturbating it. It makes them feel more virile obviously, but also like more like emotionally, like I get that, you know, they tell you not to jack off for you have to do something high stakes.

Who's they? Well, you know, the public, the public. Today. I dinged my dong not to this week's episode of Handmaid's Tale, but last week's episode of What Was There? Because I love that Maximnguela, the guy that plays Nick above the driver above the garage, and the guy who played a fucking Indian dude in the social network he was supposed to play in any day. Are you really going to ruin this with me with your social and

they put brown own makeup on him? Yes, that maximum Gellet okay continue, Wow, that's crazy, guys, Okay, this is I blame Aaron Sorkin for that. Of course, of course it's not no shade on those things. Um. I have yet to see a handmaids Tale, a handmads Tale because two years ago I started reading the book and it terrified me. It's very scary and mostly not a fat worthy show. But I couldn't deny my body. You couldn't deny your body, you guys. This is our first episode

since our backlog of l A episodes. That was so fun. We loved all of our guests for that love. Los Angeles. Surprised myself with how much we loved. Sure, you know what, this was the tripper. I was like, I can move here. I could do it. No stranger to l a O our guest, honey, because he's been there. Let's absolutely call a your motherfucking bitch. Okay, let's go through the credits, Matt, Okay. Well, the credits include he is on the UCB Herald team Ice Cold BEV, which I think wins the the Award

for Best Name absolutely, and he also directs characters. Welcome at UCB amazing just you know the the house character you know, Team Yeah, relatively new team. I just joined it. I'm very excited about third Monday of every month at UCB East at nine pm. Check it out. Check it out. Also, he's a writer on this last season of the Wonderful show throwing shades based on the podcast podcast Sisters Podcast Sisters. Yes, yes, and uh he you you saw him fucking slay in

School of Rock the musical. Please welcome Michael Hartney. That was a lovely listing of credits. It's like a bubble bath. We set the temperature just right for our guests. It was really nice. I feel very um exfoliated. Yes, and welcome and accomplished. Now come in, come into this little bathtub. Let's get in. Well, you have done a ton of ship. Yeah,

different ship too. Uh yeah, that's a it's a fun way to stay on my toes, right, Yeah, I mean talk about like being in the right destrum and also like, I bet you're the only writer like in that room who's like you gotten even close to Broadway, like actually performing on a Broadway stage in a musical and also writing for a small handful of of you guys. I feel like our head writer, uh, Colleen Worthman was in at least did something at the public off Broadway. Really Yeah,

she ain't no slouch and game. But you got all the way up there to the fucking Winter Palace, the Winter Garden, that's quite all right. We went my family goes. We go every year to see a probably musical around Christmas time tradition, and I was like, we have to go see School of rock a because you were in it. But we weren't even really friends then, but I was like, well, I have a friend in it, and I was so gagged when you were there. And um, also because I

genuinely wanted to see it. I love that movie on my favorite movies. Great movie, it's so good. And that show. She crowd pleaser, boys, crowd, please are a crowd, Please are big time. Everyone that comes on the ride is going to go see it. You know, nineteen hands go up in they're all see in School of Rockets. My god, Wow, that's amazing. It really is a hit. Yeah, it recently, just last week, I think earned back its initial I think because you posted about it. Yeah, it's amazing, so exciting.

You know, who's the guy in that? Sierra Bargas Who she who she played the she was She is not in the show anymore. She was the original Rosalie Mullins, the principle by Jo But for the purposes of the musical, there's kind of a love interest, right, But Sierra is like a Broadway legend. She was the original Aerial and Little Mermaids Christine in both Phantom and Love Never Dies.

And I would say thirty percent of my Instagram followers, oh my god, their profile picture is Sierra bas the name like Sierra boggas better Slay and that that's the thing that's the crossover appeal of Michael Hartney Broadway comedy. Come on, you know what? You know? Okay, just I have to bring this up because I saw this last night. You know what. It is not a great movie adaptation. I saw, you know what. I liked it, but people are and I instagrammed it. I instagram story to I

saw Emily last night. But people were like, I hear it's trash, and I'm like, come on, you guys. I thought it was cute. It was not. It was not like it did not achieve its fullest potential. But I liked some of the songs. That's you know what, and that's and that's fine. It's it's closing. So it's closing this week. I like, so sad when things just go up and go down. Philippa sou like, come on, gah, she's gonna play a Disney princess. Someday she better. She's

pretty great. She is so great. I actually didn't get to see her the Hamilton's and her understudy was But I mean, I imagine Philippa. You imagine Philippa. Yeah, I saw her and she was really such. She's so amazing. There you go. It's what a beautiful, like pristine voice, Burn heard, just letting you have come through? Burn. What are your thoughts on the Hamilton's mixtape. My thoughts are that so many of those tracks are more radio friendly

on the cast recording. Furthermore, I am not into a solo pop song where you sing through lines that are meant for twelve different motherfucking characters. That doesn't make for god damn bit of sense. It's quiet uptown. He did something wrong there? Oh? Did you came from my No? But no. But the thing is, I get it. I'm actually fully with you. I mean, Kelly Carkson is fine,

that's not her fault. Fine. What Michael hurt All I'm saying is it's the The logical fallacy of that song is the problem is that the other winners of American Idol aren't playing the other character exactly. Yeah, fantasition doesn't come in. Although I will say I want soul patrol being a general or some god. I think that the mixtape also does the reverse where it's like three different people singing the song. Then for one person with satisfied, it's like, why do you have Queen Latifa Cia and

who else is? And then who's the third? Um? I don't someone else, but it's like, oh, Miguel, Miguel, Um. I hate to see his performance of that song too. It is so affective. It's just like, honestly respect the fact. I guess like she's not thinking about a word she's saying, and I think that's the thing. Is like lin Manuel like oversaw it and still let all the intention think it's the One thing I'd say is like at least they sound different covers of like I hate one to

one covers. Yeah, do you remember I don't like either version of this song. But there's that song by Tom Cochrane Life is a Highway, then Rascal Rascal. It is indistinguishable. There's no reason original Life is a Highway other than a man who looks like Shrek is now singing Yeah. Also, it was like the theme song to the movie Cars, which I don't like, like, I just don't sign me up for like a literal one to one cover. So you're right, but you know there's something with that. I

totally agree with you. And my other criticism about the Hamilton mixtape is they didn't go big enough with it. It's like, if you're gonna get some you're gonna do an R and B ballad cover of burn, fucking get Beyonce to do it. I don't like that Andre Day version. I feel that, to me is a Beyonce song. Okay, what did you think of uh, what's her name? Jill Scott doing? Uh? No? I like that one? You see?

You just like blanket? Do not like not even not even some redeemable parts of the Hamilton's mixtape, honestly, And this is but my bias. I really like Kelly Clarkson's cover. It's it's quiet up top. But but I understand the criticism of it. Everything else I kind of just just like, I just didn't. I didn't think it needed to happen. I just prefer the cast recording on most counts, So why wouldn't I just listen to that? Speaking of cast recording, how is did you record for School of Rock? I

did How is that? Like? What was that? Like, you're in the studio. It really was wild. So we're in the studio and like on the west West west side, and um, you know we're the adult ensembles, so uh spoiler alert, we don't got a ton to do. But you know, I have a couple of solo lines in a little song called Faculty Quadrille, thank you so much, um, and I have some spoken lines as the gay parents. And let me tell you something. Top of the album, there's a moment where Michael Hartney sits down in the

show and he's an applause break. Yes, I've heard this is legendary, this is a talk about this is your moment, apocryphal. I have heard of this too. When I saw that, I just put one finger up. Yes, yes, the bit did it. Here's here's what else the bitch did. And I'm sorry I'm bringing this up. And this is like a little bit of a dredge. Um you I like, I first fell in love with Michael Hartney and this is when I didn't really know him and he had no idea who I was. But it was when everybody

all the UCB gates. We'll just gaze in general making it it gets better videos and Hartney had a great one and it's still up. It's so good. Of course it's up. I'm not gonna I got the I got the it gets a Better moment, got ten followers on Twitter and took it then down. It truly is. Yeah. The only purpose for that is like truly, kids have reached out to me. They're still like I I'm in contact with who's now like in college. And what a great like tangible sort of you know impact you had that.

I mean I think I think your opening line of that was like, okay, kids like put down, like like hit pause on Glee or or whatever it was. It was very good. It was very two. Yeah, it was very you're so yeah Gaga topical references Glee, I mean kind of topical and that. Yeah. And speaking of your time, I should ask the question, Yes, this is the and and Michael told me yesterday that he's gotten many answers to this question. Answer them as many and you can

answer as many ways as I want. Okay, So this is the question, Michael Hartney, what made you say culture was for you a young Michael, it was it was the reason why you decided to take a step in a cultural direction. You said, you know what, I've heard of this culture and I think I might explore it like cultures for me. Yeah, you get it right. Um So I was one of those, um like terrible two kids are at age two, I was like, Mom, hold me by me a toy entertained me? Young, what's this?

What's that? Oldest? Just very curious about the world around me. But uh so my mom and dad would try to think of ways to kind of get me to calm down and shut the hell up for a moment. And I guess one night, um, on ABC they were airing Superman the movie. I was two years old. They plumped me, plumped me, they plumped plump right there, I'm owning it in front of the TV. And uh you know miss Superman the movie she in short, she long with with

commercial breaks. That's just like three hours? Is this with miss Christopher Reeves singular? It's Christopher Reeves, sorry, Mr George Slade Superman in the fifties and the television show Ms Christopher anyway, um so I shut the hell up for three hours and I was like, I need all of this all the time and the like. So my mom started buying me Superman comic books. I taught myself to read on Superman comic books. Wo uh. And it's the least gay thing about me. But I I'm a huge

fan of Superman to this very day. And I knew that, but I didn't know it. It just that was like the that was like the joint, the origin, you know, story of it, and that's that's great. Oh my god, So that what is this terrible twoos thing? It just when you're a year old, you're bad. That's it's just like an acting out thing. You're like corrigible. You you just need constant stimulations. So victory for the parents there to find Superman. Yeah, I mean I really think they Yeah,

they were very thankful. It wasn't a choice. It wasn't like your mother was like, oh, Superman's on, this will be what shuts him up. It was just like, let's try. So are you fans of the of the Are you a fan of the Zack Snyder reboots? I am not. Yeah, I am decidedly staunchly so staunchly. Yeah. They're pretty self serious now, they are endlessly serious. Yeah. Man, I've never popped open a issue of Superman and went, oh, I love how fucking humorless and serious, right right right, this

is so fun. Um yeah, they're just serious and Superman doesn't care about people. He cares about himself and he's MOPy. Like the ultimate frame in these in the Zack Snyder Superman cinematic universe is Superman standing in what once was the Capitol Building which had just been atomized. Corpses on fire strewn everywhere, And no, he is not standing triumphantly. He's going people aren't gonna like me, sad face, and it's not like poor these people. It's another thing I'm

going to get blamed for classic Superman. That's so stupid. Well then, and then on the flip side of that question for this topic, what is your favorite iteration of Superman out of like every piece of like out of like your small bills and all that stuff. I would say that, uh. In filmed media, Christopher in the first Superman movie. He's good to check it out, but that first one is just it's my favorite movie, and he just he's amazing. I've always thought of myself as a

batman gay. Yeah, but I think it's oh, yeah, I'm a batman gay. Um, but I uh, I just don't. Really. I'm realizing now I don't have much of a vocabulary for Superman. And it's one of those things that I sometimes do, which is I really like one thing, and when any other thing is like sort of rival risks with it and other people like it, I'm like, no, it's bad. Yeah, I don't do that. I don't. I actually no, I don't know. It's like that was Star Trek with me because I'm a big Star Wars and

I don't need to see Star Trek. So you think that adjacent properties are frequently mutually exclusive. I feel like I must take a side. Do you know what I mean? I can't like coke and Pepsi? Yeah, no exactly. And let me tell you, up until recently, I was a Pepsi boy. But now I feel like I can't be I can't. I'm sorry, Paps, I can't be on your side anymore. After Candle, not after not after um Superman's Yeah, I gotta I gotta admit, And Michael, I'm so sorry

this might come as a disappointment. I don't have that much of a vocabulary for Superman. I have a question about it. Do you think that they kind of darkened up the Superman films as a response to the success of The Batman. Christopher stuffing more door probably. I mean the First Man of Steel was produced by Christopher Nolan's production company, so he kind of hired Zack Snyder for

this whole shit show. Um yeah, I mean, I think like the serious thing was in ye for a while, but I think it's kind of over and because they has found itself mired in it, which is why I think they're trying to make like Justice League fun and hopefully Wonder Woman is going to be fun. I hear it's good year, it's good too. She looks amazing, She looks amazing. I think it looks amazing. I'm cautiously optimistic

that Wonder Woman is going to be everything. Honey. Yes, when I hope it is, I really I hope it is. I want to just be screaming yes, Diana, Yes, But do you have it? Do you remember when there was those rumors that this is like had to be like six or seven years ago, when it was first rumored that Wonder Woman was going to be a movie, which I guess that there's always been rumblings about it, right, But then when it first, it was in some trade that Beyonce was going to be a wonder Woman. Can

you imagine? Can you imagine? I mean kind of yes, Yeah, it was rhetoric. Yeah, absolutely mean. I'm sure gal Gado was going to be wonderful, but if I have the option of Beyonce. I have always appreciated Beyonce's screen talents, acting talents. Guys, what if they made a wonder Woman movie in the late nineties and it was Katherine z Jones.

I would have been down for it. She would have been like, you know, she's such like a tigress, and that would have been It might not have been the best movie, but it would have been Late nineties superhero movies are the actual worst. Well let me add some Spawn. Yeah. Spawn. Oh my god, I actually know someone that was in Spawn. They were in it, Yes, Sydney. Sydney Boudoir, who I went to college with, was a little girl in the

movie Spawn. I think she'd Spawns daughter. I'm gonna fact check this with with my friends that that went to college with us, but I'm almost positive that's true. That is so spawnsored so quintessentially of its time. What a horrible movie, but so what was the first good superhero movie of that? I guess Spider Man, right, the two thousand one Spider Man with Tobes, X Men X Man. People say X Men in two thousand I'm not a

fan of x Men. I'm not a super big fan of Spider Man in two thousand two, of horrible in general, you're a super big fan of marw I definitely don't really read Marvel books, but I do like a lot

of the movies. I think that X two is like great, great one I haven't seen, and Spider Man two is really good, but I think mostly sorry Gang, I think Sam Reimi is a hack with with three people who live for like evil dead, an army of darkness and drag me to hell in all this business, I'm like, no, sure, one of the craziest, one of the craziest bad movies. There are more musical numbers and Spider Man three than in Spider Man Turn Off the Did you see that? Yes?

Oh my god, I saw that twice paid for zero times. So my partner's family was coming to visit New York and they wanted to see its tickets too, and I was like, these tickets are expensive, Oh my god, and we watched this thing and oh my odd. So like it starts and you're like, oh, table, or I can get on board with this. It's like saffron fabric swings. I'm like, yes, oh my god. And then oh god, it's the you. It can be summed up. It can be summed up like this. There is a number where

Spider Man makes his debut and it's fucking cool. He is swinging all around. It's like mind blowing how all of this technology is working, because it's like those roving uh robot drone things from which is literally they use that so insane because I mean, if things go wrong, these actors are danger but these are just incredible acrobatic

performers and it's like so expensive looking and cool. And you know, uh, there's a pretty dope act truly edge guitar riff that's that's playing while all the ship's happening, and it's like, yes, I'm on board with this. Everyone's wrong. It's gonna make its money bag is gonna be great.

And then um so all the Spider Man stuff, the live action Spider Man kind of swings off stage and you hear a voice over of a crying baby and then a giant cardboard cut out four stories tall of a crying baby lowers from the rafters, and as it's falling, a cardboard cut out of a spider man hand tips in and just as like it catches the baby, and the number ends with hard board. We have just watched a dizzying blend of physical prowess and technical logical achievement

ends with fucking cardboard. It is pure madness. And at that point you were just your arms folded right there, folded. I literally, I think, went, I don't know how to describe this to podcast people. You know when you're like, who knows with your arms? Well, and I did that, and I think I turned to someone and I went, what honestly crazy. I have to say I'm happy that I missed it also because I never thought that Bono

was going to write good music from musical. I'm guessing the music was pretty bad, right well, I mean some of it was bad, but some of it was good. Okay, Okay, I'm revealing you two is my favorite band by a mile. The uh well, it's fine, people should on the muh. I know, I loved that about I listened to that podcast and I just snapped and and loved it. Um. The problem with the score is that a bunch of equipment was put in front of speakers feedback, so you

can't hear lyrics. It was crazy. I also read the Glen Burger, one of the book writers, from a book called Song of Spider Man, where he's talking about all this promise and how it snowballed into this nightmare, and one of the things was, oh, yeah, we built this huge set piece that um pretty nicely snugly fits right over the main speaker. I hope you're cool with it everyone. So it's it's that's just epic, Like what an epic? What a what not to do? Julie? Why didn't you?

Why didn't you get in there? I think she might be a little bit of a crazy mess too, though, right, a little bit of one. The first time Disney was like no Julie, no Julie, crazy lady. Oh sorry, which hits I don't think so. Then then when she won all these Tony's and had all this acclaim, it's like, well, just I guess that's just let Julie be Julie. I mean that has to be what happened. And a jukebox Musical of the Beatles. Yeah, I didn't like that movie either.

I have to ask you about Andrew Looyd Webber, you know, yeah, I've definitely met him a bunch and worked with him and yeah, and he's on He's a he's a man with two feet friendly planted on Earth. Um yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean all of my dealings with him have been very pleasant and nice. Um. So there's no tea I can't see. There's a ton of tea about I think he would give me the tea about Dubbs. I'm trying to think of, like Andrew gossip, just that he's like

an eccentric person. I guess. Remember he guess judged American Idol and he was crazy with the contestants that you were playing a glamor Pus and like it was like you're a glamor Pus And she was like, oh my god, Okay, the woman was like unsettled and she was like, oh,

so here's the coolest thing that happened. Uh that was like, oh a little peek behind the A L. Dubs curtain was there was this like, you know, bit of transition music that Andrew wrote and then did not like during tech so we're kind of standing on stage and he's saying, I can't that's not that get me a get me a piano. Oh my god. So I guess it was. There was this piano that was like in the uh, one of the wings of the Winter Garden, and someone

pushed it out and it was like a rehearsal piano. Um, and Andrew went up to it and I see him doing like math in his head. Oh my god, and then he just plunks out the thing, uh, the new transition music. His assistant is watching feverishly because he knows he's about to have to go tell the pit um

exactly what this new music is. And so to watch creation like that and then like a very efficient process for delivering that information because literally then we walked off stage, reset the scene, did the transition with the new music, and he was like, yeah, it was fucking crazy. That's incrane. So that's that's It's not like juicy, but it's I think, watch the juice, but I want the tea, and the

tea does not necessarily need to be juice high. So that is different than the juice rule Number eighty nine of culture is different from the juice from her than I don't care a bitch. Okay's different than the juice. He's different than the juice. Okay, So besides Superman, yeah, Walt Disney World. Oh and why do you say, oh, like you're surprised, Like this isn't a big part of your life. Don't be apologizing. I'm not apologized. I don't cover,

don't cover. I'm not covering. It's just non chronological. Okay, so you want to Superman? Ok So, then Mary watched my first episode of SNL. Yes, yes, Mary Tyler Moore was the host the Late Beloved What what I was? Um? Days from nine years old? Okay, okay, okay, five days from trees from nine and um yeah, there was this robot hair sketch. It's pretty famous that Phil Hartman did that. I was just like, oh, like my brain like rewired

from watching it. So then that year, like the Naked Gun came out, and I think that was the year that Spaceballs like started airing on cable, which I had. So it was like all these parody, farce, satire things all at once, and I love that well when it's done well, I love that ship. I guess the last really good like parody movie I still I love Scary Movie three, but like then they got so bad. The last great one for me was that was not a scary movie. Was not another team you love, not another

team movie. And that was my answer. Yeah, that's a good one. When she goes over to the girl and they're trying to make her hit checked over the glasses and puts her head on and goes done, I mean, actually actually goes I'm a genius, I'm a miracle worker. And then there's just a beat of them both staring in the mirror for like a second too long, and it's like kind of perfect editing. Yeah, it's great. Um a favorite SML cast member Hartman or I have a guess,

Mike my errors correct? Miss who um who? Hartney got to see another Forever Dog Podcast live episode. Oh yeah, Donald's Vin McDonald's shows podcast and that was so fun and then we all we all hung out afterwards. It was you have to talk to him a little tiny bit. That was the whole world so fun. It was so great, such a legend, yeah, I mean, and hearing him talk and Michael, you can speak to this too. But it was like it sucked the year out of the room,

like you were just listening to his every word. And what stuck with me was he's making this documentary now about I forgot who? And I think, Joe, do you know remember who this was about? Well, he had made a documentary like a manager of musicians. Yes, yes, exactly. And I and Kevin asked him, like why he made that documentary or why he wanted to And then Mike Mike was saying how he wanted to show that you can be successful and have this prolific career with UM

but also be a nice person. And it's like and be kind that's said, and I was like, oh, then that must mean Mike Myers is a kind person, and like I fully believe that, and that's that's that's the t. Well, he was certainly kind to us, Yes, And then I had bought his Canada book. I was in a bookstore. I didn't know this book existed. I was in a bookstore in l A. And I just suddenly see Mike Myers Canada and I was like, what the fuck grab it. It's a giant book written by my idol. I never

heard about Canada. And I was like, well, I'm paying full price for this fucking book. I can't believe I'm doing this, uh and immediately yeah, snatch it up. Did you like the book? I love? I gotta get it. Is it funny? It's hilarious. I mean, you know a lot of it's about Canada, but it's about him growing up. I mean learning about Canada is cool, and be learning about him. I mean he definitely folds in, um getting into comedy, training as Second City, getting hired for us

to know. So it's it's it's great. Yeah. So is it one of those autobiographies that like this is disguise is something else? Yeah? I mean, I gotta get I had no idea he had this book out either until I think probably the show. But now like you're now, you're reminding me of it, I want to get it again. I'll tell you the worst autobiography that's out there. That's stupid, Neil Patrick Harris. Choose your own adventure autobiography, you know

and entirely as to choose your own adventure Rogers. That ship was on you wait listen, I bought that ship. I wanted it to be better than it was. Because you you like a fucking I love me some Neil. You like a clean cut gay with a gimmick. Kidding, I do like a clean cut gack with a gimmick. Um. Well, no, it's so bad. It's so distracting. Like, if you want to find out what happened when I got cast in Rent and fucked a woman, flipped a page eighty nine. If not, and you want to see a fucking crazy

picture up to sixteen, it's like I don't care. It's like I want to read the book of your life. That's why I got it. I get that it's fun. It was also magic is so stupid. That is the kernel of truth that we arrive. I like when a gay though has like a really like not gay passion like Superman, but you can sider magic and not gay. No, I think it's like a like a really like brutal le dorky straight person. Yeah, I agree, what's your straight passion?

Video games? But I think, but there is a culture of gay but like I don't I don't fully buying it out culture either, because there are some real fucking weirders out there. I think I have exclusively gay interests, But I would say I would say the rollercoaster thing

is like a borderline. Yeah, Like I'm like on screamscape dot com, which is like a website that is devoted to North American theme parks like and I know, like all the roller coaster designers, I know, like all the companies like and all the types of coasters like and it's like a it's like a. And one time I went to a paramount King's Island in Ohio by myself when I was on tour doing something and I went by myself and I found myself online for this ride. Um.

It was called Banshee. It was like a like a inverted roller coaster. And like I was online with this couple that clearly were like roller coaster people, and they were talking about and they were getting into it, and I was like and excuse me, hi, um, and I like all I was like being a real freak with them, like we all had looked up the roller coaster database and lift it all up in new exact heights of the coasters and speeds and like how many inversions everything had.

And it was yeah, but I was a yeah, I said, that's like a really straight thing. And one straight thing about me is but then like when when you get down to it, it really to me, it is all about Disney and Universal. It's about Orlando, it's about immersive theme park experiences. But I feel like roller coaster culture and immersive theme park culture are different totally. Six Flags is not Six Flags is not a immerse it. It's

not a theme parks park. And anytime someone says to me like like, I'm more of a six Flags person than a Universal studious person or Disney person, I'm like, you have no imagination, then you're to your trash. Absolutely, So if you like to get sick and spin around, you should be in hospital. And what Okay, I'm gonna have my quick stroke real quick. And when we come back, we're going to get into it about Disney. What with Michael Harney, because I can't let him go not on

this podcast without getting into it. Also, these bitches have betrayed me, so you'll find out about that right after this message from our sponsors. Okay, girl, we have for you all a little bit of an offer with our friend Michael Hartney. No, Michael, let's talk about Casper Mattress. What what a stirring tale? What a stirring tale? Well,

let's you know what. We pitched this movie called five Days for Morby Parker Store and it became a huge hit, a huge, huge film, winner of three Golden Globe nominations. Cute like the Mara sisters both one sister's both one for their small supporting roles. Yes they're under fives. Now let's pitch a movie for Casper Mattresses Honey. I think this is a magical fairy tale. Yeah, well, so we have a magical fairy tale, of which, of course stars

Ana Kendrick. Anna Kendrick is the prince house as the princess. Because you know, once you see someone in a role and it really works, you just keep doing that. You're talking about Cinderella. Oh yeah, and into the woods she

killed killed it. Now. Anna Kendrick stars as Princess Galina and she's out there and this is like a princess of the modern tale, a modernization of the She's mattress less in the beginnings mattress list in the beginning with then a witch gives her a Casper mattress honey played by Cela Ward. Yes, thank you finally and who Who's back? Who's back? She comes back, like Paley's comment, once every

sixteen years. Absolutely, And the witch says every one in again end, you might say, and you think of Cela, She's one of my sisters. So she gives her this enchanted, enchanted matchtress and she either can say fifty dollars on it or do a one hundred day free trial. This is this is this is real? Is this really? You can do a Cathine Mattress on day free trial. You can do one one hundred day free trial by locking onto trial dot com forward. It might be part of

the offer. Who knows, but anyway, that's like the end of act one. That's the end of act And then in the second act, her best friend played by Taylor Swift in a terrible performance, horrible. She's so bad in this like stop putting pop stars in the movie she plays the squirrel best friend and the c g I is terrible, terrible. Ball is so bad. The mo cap dots are still you can still see them. It's such a bad perform and such a bad movie, in such a such a bad moment that I should say the

movie's grant. His girlfriend betrays her, betrays by setting setting a fire in the forest, and the bed burns and the bed burns. But then the witches revealed to be a fairy, and the fairy gives her a new cast for mattress that she has to pay around because she did have that fifty dollar discount for a mattress that has just the right thing, just the right bounce to phone technology. I was going to say, and that's actually a twist in later part of the movie because um

Galina the princess loses her memory Oh my god. And then she lays down on the on the memory phone and she gets it back, and then she finds her latex under the bed, if you know what I mean, because that prince is played by Orlando Bloom. That's correct. There you go. And I'm sorry I got that wrong. Orlando Jones better. So guys, log onto, don't log on. There's no log in. That's the use of your experience.

It's already perfected. You don't have to log in for this Casper trial dot com forward slash lost culture, rest us for your trial and to really change your life the way that this film changed Ana kendricks life. Because her career is over now. And what's what's the film called. The film is called Once Upon a Mattress and Honey. That is a little bit of an offer and We're back with Michael Hartney, and I could say you just heard a little bit about a magical world, and I'm

ready to talk more about a magical world. And you guys, I have breaking tea. Did you see what I hosted today? Okay, so for everyone at home, did you see this? Producer Joe, Yes you did, you commented? Alright. So a while back I did a little change that or petition literally kind of as a joke saying the Trump animatronics shouldn't be able to speak in Hall of Presidents. It got like fifteen thousand signatures, low and behold and whatever I mean. But then I was like, yeah, I really believe this,

Like this should not happen. This is like a place for families and children and international populace, So like, why why do we have to listen to this? Now? The g that it's probably not going to happen, that the animatronic is probably not going to speak because Disney doesn't want it to deal with it. Trump won't cooperate, and the imagineers don't are just they don't know what to do. They're kind of like well in Iraq and a hard

place because the thing has to reopen. But also like you don't even know if you wanted to record it because of what could be going on with Russia, right right, right, if you haven't read the news and you only listen to this podcast, like ship's gone down with Russia, so you gotta you gotta look that up. So thank you, America's number one. Not you're only harbingers of culture. Um, so I'm your most trusted news source, and you can get that, right. What's fascinating is well, I mean, wasn't

this also like floating around? Was that they wanted to cut the time down from twenty three minutes to like, well, this is a this is a good topic. What do you think of the longer Disney attractions, these shows, these performances Jane Bery? Sorry, well that is shortened. H that's a cool thing that I know. I think it was in the article. Maybe that's why I know. Yeah, yeah, alright, I feel better. Um for me, they can be long. I'm fine, especially because I don't know if y'all know this,

but Florida is hot, Florida is warm. It's warm there. Do you want to go to to a building? You don't want to be kicked out? That ship has a c there's nothing like the A C when you go in there in Florida. Are you kidding me? It is the best. Honestly, every time I go out to Universal Studios and I go into the E T room, I'm like, oh my god, thank God, thank God, let me see the stars, honey. And I don't. I don't like that attraction very much. Although it's a little bit of a guy.

It's kind of a g Yeah, you know what, I do love it. Here's what I don't love. And this is weird when they get to eat planet deck and then it gets weird, it gets weird. Don't like it? And ready that room warm all of a sudden warm, it's warm? Yeah, what happened to the temp? And you know non Cannon those aliens, those are canonical aliens, the one that's like wholcome do you think that Spielberg was like, well, we've really got to get our people. Just we've really

got to sign off on all of these. Just this one with ninety eyes and the rest of you know, just make literally I'm tired. Oh my, they should be smally that's yeah, that's better. In fact, this one that that's the flower. Can we get rid of her? No, those didn't make any sense. But yeah, I did not clock that it was warm in that room. You know what, I changed my mind. I don't like it anymore. I love, I love, I know what fond childhood memories on on that right? What a great cue. But why is there

no animatronic Drew? There should be an animatronic Drew. Okay, Drew the Arrymore. It took you a second. I think of her as right right, right right, she she was. She wasn't Drew yet. She was going to say she was not true. She was not true as we know her. I guess she never had the opportunity to be Gurtie. For me, it was always little Drew Barrymore. What's the tea is? Is that getting struck down to make way for something? I feel like that's got to be next.

Also at Universal Studios, Florida. What's old is that terminator which is not holding up? Now? I haven't seen her well she was. This is the t during the Right Experiences and Films Terminator to She was supposed to get knocked down early on because James Cameron they were talking to her for Avatar about putting Avatar in that space.

Avatar and now famously we know she though it has now just opened up an animal kingdom where you bitches are going next week, which we are out there on a gig and Heartney God bless him, was like just emailed. Everybody in the group was like, yeah, hey, not to be a monster, but Bowen and I are going to fucking Disney World and we want to go see, uh what is it called World of Pandora? But then what's

the light of passage? Which I've just realized that is a pun on rid of passage, which and I hate it. I hate that. Yeah, yeah, I just realized that in this second Um and those fucking TVs, those TV ads where you see the fucking animatronic blue person just saying come da, welcome to Pandora, when that is why I speak NAVI boys Unobtainium. But that name is apparently like

just legendary. It's like sort of like this, um, it's no, no, no, but it's like it's been throughout it's been in literature throughout the ages, the name of Obtainium has been Yeah, apparently that's like I was having this conversation with someone was like, what a fucking stupid name, Like they couldn't have thought of something better, And they were like, no, it's actually hasn't. I actually don't believe them at all.

They showed me here's the reality about here's the reality it showed me scrolled illustrated scrolls they had, They had the receipts on a um, here's the t about World of Pandora. I'm hearing there are some issues, and I never I want to say something because I know that you are. You're a Disney guy. Yeah, as a universal gay. I I'm not throwing shade at Disney. I just I get disappointed sometimes when I feel like something that I love so much when I was little has become a

mall you know what I mean? It's always benefit not really okay, Hartney would see you. I mean, I do understand the uh frustration with another another price hike, another uh you know, deluxe experience that you'd have to pony up for. But the thing is you don't have to do any of those things. But but but I I don't know. Maybe it's just me feeling entitled to Disney, right, well, I think that is. I feel like that is. It's an insane phenomenon that so many people feel like an ownership. Yeah,

this corporation. I mean, it's really bizarre and I am no, I'm not immune to it at all, but like it's sweet that we all care so much about this thing. But it really is a company with like you know, a board in a in a glass conference and they would kill you if they had to. Oh, they would, they would, that's the thing. If they knew you would expose their secrets, they would kill you in a second. So would Taylor Swift. She would watch the light leave

your eyes. Taylor Swift that anyone with over a million dollars I think would kill you. Would if I had money to protect and you're dead. If you're a threat to me, you're done, so you are, I would kill you. Are forecasting your manslaughter. No murder, I'm premeditated premeditated murder.

I'm kidding. Um, I guess I just Oh but speaking of which, speaking of like this, just remembering that it's a corporation, Like even this fucking article that you posted to day about the Hall of Presidents, um, like Bob iger fucking made a statement about it back like right after the election. Like even it's it's gone all the way up to like the highest ranks of Disney for him to be like, I will come out and make a statement about the Hall of Presidents, and it's like that.

It's a bizarre position they themselves, that's for sure. I don't know what I will say. When I went to Hall of Presidents in I was so fucking scared someone Obama. I was terrified it did not happen that it restored my faith in America. And you know what I did. I burst into tears. Oh that's beautiful. It is not beautiful. It was pathetic. No, I love it. So that trip, that January trip to Disney. So I had first gone in with my family. Then I went on spring break

when I was eighteen with like high schoolers. Were we a homo at this point, we were an out homo came out when I was sixteen, so I was. So we went to the House of Blues and Downtown Disney or whatever the Disney Springs Disney Sings now Disney Springs, um. And we had a server who said I said something. We were kind of joking around and I must have said something slightly queeny or something. Remember that word queeney. I said it. Because the story is from the nineties

and Ra's character and Benjamin Button was named Queeney. Some facts for the kids. I have a good bendroomin Button story. Um and that he went, hey, man, you're being a little and he like flipped his wrist down and he went, you're being a little Disney. And I was like, well, I am Disney, motherfucker, and if you have a problem with it, I guess you can fuck off and not get a tip from us. I was pissed. Yeah, why wouldn't And this table, the table of my friends was

also not having it. God blast. Did he get fired? No, he apologized. I mean he was being nice up until then. It's not like you said you're a fag and I'm going to get you. He probably thought he was being funny. He definitely thought he was being funny. Man, you're being a little Disney. Oh god, that's the worst sentence I've ever heard. For those of you who lists, I probably didn't call him a motherfucker, but I definitely suppressed that you're just send to an out gay person who doesn't

appreciate what you're saying. For those of you who can't see, like right before the Disney it's just like limp rest. It's like, throw that wrist down. Hate that disgusting. It was gross. I hate when you find that in those parks too, which is like, what's so frustrating about the whole chart animatronic thing is that you remember it is flow it off and like a lot like there is a lot of trash that rolls through there. So it's like, but I'll say, I've never seen anyone give any shade

to any same sex couple or anything like that. I think they they leave it at the door and heartening and her going during gate age, are you really, Oh, Pandora is going to be lit? I mean, bring that red tashe. Honey, we're gonna be wearing red tashe. We're gonna be wearing red tashe. Will bring back the hanky code? Why not? Um? The tina is going to be flowing? Is that what they say? Everywhere? Metal? It's meth everywhere

in Pandora? I heard yeah after the first movie. That's that's actually the plot of the second movie, the night before we are there. I think tidal Wave, which is like the gay party like Typhoon lagoon. Can you imagine getting just like fucking jacked off? In the way pool. O. God, that thing is going to be just there's just going to be like a layer of ganaree on the top of that lazy film. I'm so sad we're not there longer,

so stay longer. No, we can only go there for like a small window of time because we're only there for the weekend. Are you doing a full day? No, it's like we're doing a night right, So we're doing We're doing We're opening the park, then we're going back doing our gig, and then we're going back at night. Oh my god, I'm obsessed with this commitment. Amazing. And meanwhile everyone else is like, well half the group is going. The other half is like, yeah, we're gonna So did

you fast pass already pass? Because we're getting put up in a hotel with our job and we were like, this is not enough. So the three of us got a room at All Star Music so that we could get fast passes and extra magic hours. Oh my god, extra magic like be waking nightmares that we are. So are you getting a park Copper? Are you just? And the thing is we change our minds. We can always upgrade to a park Copper, which we did. We literally did.

We went too, but you're not gonna want to. Well, we can talk a lot about which park has the magic hours whatever, but like you at home are like literally asleep. We've talked about Superman Disney. That's what my That's what I love though, and the listeners know that, I mean, they love me for it. I think some day soon and I will prophesy this, we there will be a June someday where we bring all the queer queer adjacent people and we all go. We have to we have to go drink. I really want to go.

And also it has to be doing. It has to be during gay days. I don't know. I think it'd be so fun. It would be fun. But you can make it your own gay day and told when there's no family, like no craziness. Sort of agreeing with that, yeah, I mean you can make your own. We have our Gay Day experience because it just is serendipitous. Yes, but I'm I am like all about a fall. I'm all about like getting there in October into I'm into right after New Year's as well. For sure? Is that all

the temperature is a little funky? Oh totally. But yeah, I mean I used to go for New Year's I went two years in a row. I did that's peak, peak peak crowd. When Hogwarts was first opened, we did New Year's Eve and as I event during Universit studios and it was crazy crowd. And here's what Matt Rogers did. He was waiting. He was batting with Chelsea, his sister Chelsea for Forbidden Journey, young sister Harry Potter Forbidden Journey.

The line was nuts, and so they decided to just walk in and cut the whole fucking line, not correct the line to the Wizarding World at large. It was three hours long. You couldn't get even into the land, and so I was going to have to wait to get three hours just to get into the land to look at the fucking castle. Castle. And I was like, all right, because it wasn't even diagon Alley. It's just stupid. Now they have diagon Alley, but at first they did it. So I was like, you know what, come on, and

we just walked past the line, honey, walked around. No one stop, nobody, nobody even dreams. You just have to walk with purpose. I guess you just got to act like you know where you're going at all. Times, you can get it anywhere. I think if you look like you know where you're going, you look I agree with if you look like you know what's up you're getting Remember seventeen look like, look like you know where you're going? One more time. We will never seventeen of culture looks

like you know where you're going. I think that's I think that's a good one. That's actually that's a that's a really practical one. It's like it's like to be the appliable, appliable, like the person you want to be in the world. You say a word like you know where you're going, say a nonword like you've been saying this word all your life, and then it's a real word. So when you're down there in Orlando, is it really just a Disney affair? Do you ever dip your towe

in the universe? Studios parks? So um, I had never been a universal um. And I had this like final week before School of Rock started rehearsals on Broadway, and I knew I wasn't going to be taking vacation anytime soon. So yeah, so I was like, well, honey, we've been to Disney a couple of times, now, why don't we try, uh, Universal Studios, and he was very gracious in game and indulges me on these stupid theme park adventures. And was was this with Jason and Kristen or No, that was

a different No, that was Jason and Kristen. I went to Disneyland with Yes when we went to l a Dead Dad's Club, really great sketch ow. Doless Wideck was in it. Michael Hartney directed, Oh yeah, true story. I was also in it. I designed the postcard. Oh did you I did? Yeah? Cute, it was good. That was Yeah, that was a fun one. Anyway, we we uh yeah, we went to Universal for the first time and uh we stayed at Cabana Bay and it really was We just did that one and it was great and uh

it was very fun. But also affirmed that I am doggedly Disney. Okay, explain he likes the atmosphere I like. Um, I feel like so many of the attractions that Universal rely on screens and motion simulator, which if if Disney only had rides like that, I would also be very

sick of that. So I just feel like it's a diversity of mode of attraction that I'm looking for in a theme park, and there were so many screens and like, my constitution can only take so much in a row, so like we have to take these breaks, Like I can't look at another blurry ass tiny uh approximation of Helena Bonham Carter on a screen. There's only so much of that in my life. It was pretty fierce, though,

Oh my god, it was great. It was fine. No, it was ready for my Like, here are my universal gags. Here's the one where I was like, why aren't people talking about this one? Miss mommy? Everyone talks yea was the tea and when when they killed and her blood splashes on you obession and the roof light's on fire bit and it's so hot, talk about talk about warm warm. I love DT because it's classic dark ride. Ready magic you know what? That is a magical dark ride. They've

toned it down a lot. It doesn't spin at all. It used to be better because it would whip around and it was kind of fun. Now it just is fully stationary because a little kid fell out of it. Fucking tape the kid down. Yeah. I always blame the parents. They got they gotta it's it's the onus is on the parents to tape their child down. Just hold the kid. Tape down your children. Parents. So what do you think

of the Jurassic Park. I think that that the one um in uh, Florida is better than the one in California. I disagree. I think it's the other way around. When I was on it in Florida, there was a woman behind me with her elderly parents, and she was this is literally the ride. Ready, Oh look, ma, tree, look my box, dad, Dad, it's a little dinosaur. Ma. Look at this farn. Like literally every now, every now that we floated by. It was fucking crazy. Look at that.

So then you get much wetter. And that water, bitch, I smelled like full bar for the rest of the day. It's not clean. It was not clean. I was wearing barf water on my bootrees for the rest of the day. You get even wetter on the Popeye ride. I didn't go on the Popeye ride because of that. I did go on the ride such a gag. Loved it. Also classic Disney feeling. Yeah, could use a little bit of plus ing, Like, could use a code of paint the characters could use There's a tiny drop and before there's

a huge drop. The tiny drop got us. So yeah, the big drop not a rivulate of water that the tiny I mean it is literally two ft. We just got fucking drenched. So all that said, Universal was very fun. I was obsessed with, like fast food boulevard SI, I think you know what, I totally agree with you. There's too many screens, many of the rides of the same, like the Transformers right in the Spiderman rides. It completely ruined Spiderman, which was revolutionary. I still think Spider Man

is way better than Transformers. At least you know what the fund is happening in Spider Man. I guess I could say the same thing about the Transformers movies, though I never know what. I don't know what's happening. Could you close really more tight on this undulating box of nothing? Yeah, any idea? What's happening? Do you love that? Do you understand what's going on in the Avengers movies? I don't know what the funk is happening in any of them. I do know what's going on in Avengers movies, but

the Transformers movies have me lost. Yeah, those are done, the second one, but at this point, yeah, you know what I've I've I've gotten lost. I can't even go see the Avengers movie because here's the problem. They're all the same movie. Now. Yeah, they started desparate, like people are like, oh, the best Keptain America movies When You're Soldiers, Yeah, that movie is just another like Adventures cut in Pace movie, the first Keptain American movie placed in the forties, and

it has its own identity. The first Thor movie is like this juxtaposition of this mythical character in a like small town, like learning how to, and it has its own character. Every every one of those movies in sequels since just feels like, oh and here's Avengers chapter twenty two. They tried to smush it all into it all feels like just another in an ongoing saga, which is fine, but I feel like each thing should have its own personality.

I think what they tried to do was they tried they looked which one made the most money, and that was iron Man, and they said, when they're their own movies, that's fine, but when they're all together, try to make them feel like iron Man. That's why why they all have that kind of like Robert Downey junior to them, and they kind of have this like Pace that's like

a little too fast, you know. It's just like it's like things are just happening a little too fast, and like not every actor is like good at that, but it feels like because Iron Man was the most successful, and maybe they feel like Robert Downey Jr. Is like the one that they have to like accommodate um. It feels like everything else is trying to be that and wouldn't and has been best suited to that because, like you're saying, they all are so different. I hope Spider

Man Homecoming I have. I have the kids cute, the kids good playing spider Man. I like the character Spider Man. I could like like I see spire Man in it, and I'm already annoyed, just want but you give me Marissa Tomay and you've got my money. There there you go. Marissa told me as Aunt May so sad, but like yeah, I was like old ask Aunt May. It's literally Merissa Tomay coming and snatched, like what's going on at school? Talk to me? Seriously? I'm like what I want to know?

To go from Rosemary Harris to Sally Field to Marissa Tomay? What a crazy next is gonna be? Margot roblution post because it's going to be Dakoda Fanning daughter. Oh my god, yo, can we talk about how L Fanning eight Dakota Fanning alive? No, I think rule number one one of culture Elf Fanning eight, Dakoda Fanning alive. I think d It just doesn't want to work that much anymore. Who doesn't want to work to code? I think she's probably tapped out. She wants to like. I saw her on some talk show. She

was charming. Yeah, you sure it wasn't L. I am sure it wasn't L. In fact, so, if if you have to take one of them out of the burning building, how do you pick? What a weird the one I feel I can get most safely? Yeah, exactly, the one I'm most certain I could say, Okay, they're both equally close to the door. This is such a bond, girls. I kick them both down. I run to the next I run next door, where Abigail Breslin is drowning, and I save her. Okay, I was gonna say, Spencer, Spencer Breslin, No,

I don't. I don't care for Abigail Breslin. Do you know I was watching this. I don't care for her. Um. Abigail Breslin is apparently in the Dirty Dancing remake. She's forty eight now, and but she's like she does not look I'm sorry, but as baby. But it's like, I don't And this is no shade to Abigail. This is crack. Just physically not right for the part. No, not right for the really not right for most things. I think Abigail wasn't as a weird actor, like a lovable weirdo.

I just I don't. I don't know anyone who act or looks are like her. I don't know. Maybe maybe it's just that I'm a little uneasy with her. She's not even she's not even in type. Like you can't even put her in a type by the way, you guys, um totally. I just don't know where she Since since our l A apps, I had this huge journey with signing it for Equinox Gym. I'm now at the same Equinox Gym as Hot producer Joe. We have not seen each other there yet, but it's equinoxtuneboat catch us there.

I have some guest passes. Who will I pick for my guest passes? We'll find out. I won't, Baby, I don't. I don't chilled eucalyptus towels, sort of mediocre spin classes. But we'll talk about this. Joe and kills in that showers. So get this today. Did a year at Equinox because School of Rock paid for it. There go. I also had a trainer because I was covering Dewey, which involves crazy amounts of stamina. Had a trainer to um, yeah, to help me get it. How many times? Just twice?

Did you get to kiss Sierra? Yes? It was actually her. God, it was her the last weekend when she was on. Oh that's nice. You got to give her a big It was like her third last show was my second show. Wait, how is that? How is that? How? How is covering? For doing? It? Was the most I still absolutely cannot believe that it happened. It's so cool, um in a Broadway house. Yeah, I had to learn how to play guitar.

It was all a thing. But like, I don't think of myself as like some singer or anything, you know, but you have that fucking stage presence. Well thank you. But yeah, like I had worked on it for months and months and months, and it was starting to feel like, oh, well, I'm probably never going to go on this Dewey, which is fine, like there's three other covers and well there's two other covers and they seem to have it and

you've just taken care of And then it happened. The stage manager texted me and was like, you're going on his Dewey on Sunday on a Thursday, and I was like, okay, I can do this, and uh yeah. It was like being shot out of a cannon. How does that work? To prepare as an understudy? Like do you rehearse the material while the lead actor is rehearsing it like behind him?

Or like how what is it? So? Well, I worked on the workshop and we were covering for the workshop, but like the scripts evolving and the numbers are changing and the blocking is changing, so we weren't encouraged to watch rehearsals because it was all going to change anyway. So for the most part, my work began once the Dewey roll was kind of wicked, and that's when basically we were opening. So then that's when I started rehearsing

with the resident director and started like do my Dewey stuff? Um, but I knew I was like the last of the last Yeah, exactly. Michael Hartney and my mom and aunt came to the first one that I did. They bought a ticket for the second row. The show starts presentationally. It's Dewey's band playing a song. So the curtain rises and I'm looking out in the house and I immediately see my mom and Aunt Cathy, and they immediately burst into tears. Oh my god, Oh my god, just sobbing,

and it was crazy. My mom had already seen the show, but to see me as do he was like crazy crazy. And then two weeks later, my brother and sister in law came and that was my best friend came from Buffalo to see it. And it was and I had fixed everything that I royally fucked up the first time it was. Were there any were there any big mess up? Like, oh my god, yes, they're sure. The funk were like drop lines no, um paraphrase, I'm lines sure, But that

actually doesn't bother me at all. It was musical stuff that I was like, Oh my god. Uh so his first number is called when I climbed to the top of Mount Rock. This is really fucking hard ass crazy song that may immediately depletes you of energy for the rest of the show and it's first thanks Andrew, um and uh i uh saying the first verse in the first chorus began and I knew I was just a hair ahead, and it was so terrifying, and I was like, well, this is it, this is this is how I die?

When when do I give up? When do I give up?

And literally it was a line and a half long, but to me felt like I was thirty years and then that like kind of I don't know where what kind of mental place that puts you in for the rest of the show, but like who knows, Like you're so about A verse and a half later, Um, there's this like Corey choreographed moment where I jump over a guitar case and I'm like putting up dukes and I throw myself to the floor and I have a very distinct memory of mid air in the jumping over the

guitar case like putting up dukes, going I would like to stop doing this. I don't want to do I don't want to do this show, Like I don't want to see this show through to the end, which of course I must and have to contractually, but I was like, I don't want to do this. And then it passed. I mean it very quickly passed. I relaxed into it and really started having the time of my life. I mean, both shows were very special. Oh so then um, then the first song with the kids called You're in the Band.

I've never had a problem in any rehearsal singing this song ever, and the adrenaline and the exertion. Um, there was a verse at the end where I couldn't get the last word of every line out for some reason. So it's like the song goes, and with me a control love the band as a whole, we will rock, it will roll with a hot enussle. And I said, and with me a good love the Paniza, with our heart and our soul. Because then I started speaking it because I was like, what has happened to my mind?

As the kids were like the kids were like ms, Finn, So the kids are they kind of like that's really cool? Do you get to go on? Or were they like yeah, that's great, Oh my god. They the cutest, sweetest, most excited. Everyone was so excited. The whole building was very excited for me. I mean it really was like the most supportive, lovely, familial group of people in the world. How did you get to meet ms Cosgrove Miranda? Oh? I did actually

Opening Night. Oh cool. She was very sweet, beautiful soul. I don't know what Matt's trying to get at. I don't know. She was she was really she was lovely, she was really nice. We should have her on. Let's bring on Miranda. We'll bring on Maranda. I think we're nicas. Grove killed it in that movie She's Fears. Oh yeah, that was like you knew she was a star memory ho in the Moon like stop stop, stop, good, wow, what thank you for that story? Wows right? I love that.

Then just dropping the lad story just couldn't get them out, just could not get him out. Your bodied in my voice was just blown out for just those little syllables. Um. So that's like, that's a tough one to think about that, But you know what, I'm so glad that. I'm so glad you made it through. I made it through. Yeah, you made it through. Baby. Um Okay. Whenever I dropped a line on site and was like, it's always over. Yeah, right, that's what That's what I'm saying, Like, I that throws

me off for the whole fucking thing. That stuff doesn't bother me anymore, which is like very lovely. That is a blessing. That was a Broadway Tomty baby, because there was just so many other things to worry about. Yeah, that first show, I was like so worried about the guitar. It was the first time I've ever been remotely good at guitar. Well there you go, like it was great, you know, I mean relatively, No, no, I'm sure, but yeah, it was like weird things. I wasn't expecting that. I

was suddenly, Oh my god, it is a dream. Oh my god. What Broadway show would you want to be in? Um? Oh, that's so tough. You go first, I don't really know. M I guess I would like to do King George Hamilton, and I would always love to do a Book of Mormon, of course. Yeah, my like basic acid answer his Book of Mormon. But oh, I I post what if I was like this, gosh, play actually shut up, I'd like

to play. I did post this, and I kind of I kind of I kind of hated myself for posting this, but I was like, I want to be sucking Bobby and Company or not even know I loved that you posted that. Good. I want to be Bobby Baby. I should do that. Well, I'll save it for for the actual show. He's got a new cat and he's named after Um finishing the hat. His name is George. Sunday in the Park with George. Because we were carrying him home and trying to figure out names and finishing the hat,

weirdly came on my partners. He had never heard that song, and I was like, Oh, it's from Sunday in the Park with George and it's beautiful and I think this is Mandy Patinkin. He's like, this is how do you know this stuff? And I'm like, don't even worry about common knowledge to us? Oh my god. With the one who played Dot, Um, the new one who played Dot next to j Joe and Hall. What's her name? Annalistie Ashford Antie Ashford Denver It like me. I watched watched

a bunch of interviews with her. She's great, she's funny. She's super funny. So funny's super good. Yeah, good for her for Kinky Boots and she also her career started when she was like she came out on MTV when they showed Bland she was like, dear, he's a lucky guy. And then we're like, who's that. They're like, that's the one we remember. And now she's I'm like gonna cry, she's doing fucking of um. Okay, we gotta move on.

This is it, this is the moment, all right, this is I don't think so honey, this is what you have all gagged for now. Famously, uh, Michael Hartney actually closed out our our I don't think so, honey live show that we had a couple of months ago, and it was like it was quite a moment, and and then you, I don't think, so, honey, What movie was it?

What film is it? Usual? Usual Suspects? And the final line of his I don't think so, Honeywise, if I want to listen to Kevin Spacey live for two two hours straight, I listened to him talk about the women he's fucked thrown on to drone on. I'm so sorry. I butchered it. You butchered that. Okay, please do a justice. No, no, no, I want you to think everything you guys are doing are both in accurate representative. It was brilliant, It was amazing.

Maybe I don't know, guys, Maybe look forward to another I don't think so, honey, live show maybe maybe for you soon, I don't know, little tease. I look, I looked at producer Joe and he just set himself on fire. Actually, so um, we'll deal with that. We'll deal with that. Also, just want to quickly say, I just want to quickly say, Bone and I have a show at Arsenova and Fest on June twenty two that's called Nights. So it is going to be a cat fight in three acts. Honey.

It is gonna be Dynasty not landing realness for there in full drag bit. It's gonna be very It's gonna be quite the show. So Chicken, get them in advance. They're gonna be a little cheaper Arsnova and Fest. Check it out. Lots of really good shows in the shows from Passic and Platt. Yes. And then right after our show the same night is show Gasm hosted by Nicole Le Queen Nicole, Queen Nicole. So this is going to be a very fun June for Arsenal. Emphasis. Now I haven't.

I don't think so, honey, I've decided on it. I don't yet. So this is very exciting. I'll have time to think about mine, but because I had to think. Sometimes you have to have to search your heart. Okay, here we go, and this is I don't think so, honey. Uh Matt Rodgers, time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Let us onion and tomato. Bitch, Why are you a staple of a cheeseburger. I see two words cheese and burger. I don't see let us onion tomato in that deal.

I assume bread, and maybe that's my fucking fault for assuming it. Cheese burger, that's what I want to get. I want to I would rather say I'll have a cheeseburger on bread. Then I'll have a cheeseburger. Get the bread and get the let us onion and tomato, bitch, it's too much. I don't like tomato. I might as well be allergic to it. I've tried the little sun dried tomatoes, little cherry tomatoes. Maybe you not these big ones, not these big heirloom ones. And onion. What the hell?

You're well known for making people cry. Let us your lunchy. You're stupid. If I wanted the healthy option, I wouldn't have ordered a cheeseburger. I would have had a salad, bitch, I don't need some of you. Let us on my burger. I don't need let us on get in tomato, you're extra and mayo. Don't even think about it. I want to catch up and mustard on the side. I'll put it on as I please, liberally. Thanks. And that's just one quick question. How old were you when you stopped

ordering buttered noodles at a restaurant? I never ordered butter noodles, bitch. I've been a chicken fingers kids since I was terrible to buttermilk. Bitch. I feel like I spoke to a lot of people. You spoke to a lot of people. Well, I'm sorry. What was the line that he said? I don't I don't want some of you. Let us. I don't want some of you. Let us. I don't want You're crunchy. You're stupid. You're crunchy, You're stupid. First of all, crunchy is crunch is great. It's not a pejorative thing.

But okay, it's signed for bell and youangs. I don't think so how many I think I have something that's we'll see you know what. I gotta go in strong, remember whatever, know where you're going here we go. This is my I don't think so, honey. Believe it was rule number eighty nine. Okay, I could be wrong. I don't think so, Honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, Honey. The super Target that just opened up at City Point in Brooklyn for having the name super Target but having

a lackluster produce section, Honey. The thing that distinguishes you from a super target, for a super target, from a regular target is the fucking produce section. Honey. You are not gonna get away with having a pile of oranges in the middle of the fucking aisle and call yourself a super target and slap that qualifier on your self. Honey. City Point, You're busted. You're supposed to have a Catxs Deli and a Trader Does and a super Target and

an Alamo Drafthouse. Right now you only have a lackluster super Target and a fine okay Alamo Drafthouse. I've only seen one movie there. I was. I was very stone and it was Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them with Matt and it was very fun. But also, but super Target. You do not get to call yourself a super target where you have one floor. The Target Atlantic Terminal has two floors, bitch, and it's spacious as hell. But it smells like ass so City So City Point

super Target. At least get your smell down. If you suck that up, then there's no so I don't think so, honey, super Target be the real super Target you were meant to be in. That's one minute. Okay, Wow, it's a Travis That Elmo Drafthouse is lovely. It's lovely. I didn't totally chin on it. I know I think that, Um, that was actually amazing, thank you, thank you very much. And it just came they shouldn't call themselves a super They should have to earn that absolutely absolutely, all right,

this is it. So Michael Hartney came in. I think he told me that he had two options. You have two options, and he's holding both of his options in his hand right now, and so Bowen on the counter, we're going to choose the same hold on. How do we know that he just doesn't have one pick down and he's just gonna say that, Okay, Okay, I will the choice. You know what, Boone and I are going to disagree. So Joe, you pick the hand producer Joe. He picks the left right. Here we go. This is

Michael Hartney's left hand. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People who come for mo wanna Honey. That movie is gag honey. I cried four times when I saw that movie, honey, and then I was like, I saw the second time and I was like, well, I'm not going to cry as much, honey. I cried to Ie as by Tiney. What is wrong with simple, straightforward storytelling with fun ass songs? I'm sorry. Mr Andrew Lloyd Webber says, you only need a few

motifs to hold an audience's attention. And I worked with that motherfucker, so I should, motherfucking No. Ma Wanna is a Superman story. She knows where, she learns where she came from, She defies her elders, and she has agency me, she makes choice has there is no love interest. She doesn't care about no Rock. Also the Rocks body. That is a pay into ink and paint animation, honey, which you're not gonna get in c G I other films, bitch.

I don't think so, honey. That's one minute we just disagree. I guess I'll Sun Times opinion anyway for I could get into this did not come from Matt Rogers at all. I'm so glad you picked the one that came for Matt Roger. Bitch that was. I didn't like it. It boored my ass to death, and it also boored bow and today he just wasn't brave enough to take to social about it. I just wasn't brave enough to take to social. Sorry. I just heard the phrase take to

social and now I'm lighting myself on fire. Listen. I was you know what, I was a craven. It was a craven. Craven of me to not post on social. But I will say that Matt and I got our fucking lives during the How Far I'll Go reprise. Yeah, it was amazing. It was an amazing moment. I thought there were great moments in that movie. I wish the star the whole thing was exciting. I wish that. I wish I wish I felt you want excited while I

was watching it. You want to talk about a consistently excellent Disney movie from the last five years, I have said it a million times. Recket Racket Ralph, it's the best watch it, but it's not a musical, so I hate it. Okay, Well I can't win them all like Masters inc. I actually um came for the first time. You. I'm sorry you dinged your dong to dinged it and danged it to mansters inc. There you go. Maybe sold.

That might have to good cut out anyway, Guys, we want to thank Michael Hartney so much for being on the show. You guys, oh my god, we love you very much and this was so fun. My name is Matt Roger, my name is Bowen Yang. That's Michael Hartney and produced. We love you Bye. This has been a Forever Dog Production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett Boum. For more podcasts, please visitor Dog Production stuff dot com.