Look man, oh, I see you? Why why and look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, ding Dong lost culture. Okay, I have to say I was going to try something like I was gonna do it with a deep voice, but then I chickened out of the last second and go ding Dong law school Jerusale's calling. I thought it might be funny, but then I chickened out of the last second. What does that say about me?
It means it's spooky season. So you wanted to spool, wanted to scare me, but then you were scared yourself. Kind of officially fall, there's no way of saying it's officially fall. So autumn vibes definitely spooky, scary in the air, etcetera. Haunted houses are definitely packing up. Um those actors are employed, thank god, thank god, and wait all year for the
season to scare and spook. Do you think I do you think there are swings that haunted houses, like there's a there's a there's an understudy for you know, Freddy Krueger or something. Legally, they I think there has there has to be. I think legally, I hope, I hope they're unionized. If the Haunted House workers aren't unionized, then we need to start getting on that. Then Halloween is
cancer period. Then Halloween is canceled. If I don't know that my girls, my fellow actors, my community are safe in their place of work, because when they come out, think about how physical it is for them to get up, like poke behind a curtain like this, so physical. Oh my god, you just said, readers, you didn't see that. But Matt just kind of kind of mind poking out of curtains. I think there was curtains. Tell me this isn't what it's like in a haunted house. Tell me
it's not. Yeah, no, for sure, And I'm not even joking. This doesn't even a bit like they need to be protected because you never, because because never is an audience more hostile in a performance setting then in a haunted house where they were like where these people kind of have permission to be like ah and like hit you. I'm so shy too that every year rolls around and we don't hear more about guests sort of striking back. It's like it's truly, if anything, that the Haunted House
employees are more in danger than the actual guests. You know what I mean it's on bowen because also they have the knowledge of where to go if something does go wrong, like the like you know what I'm saying, they can see everything, like you know what I mean, Like these guests are just sort of flailing through. God awful,
just awful, and it's so scary to think about. Well, um, I didn't even mean to bring this up as uh, sort of leading into our guests a sort of segway if you will, But God, do you ever have one of those shows where you go, oh, I wish that would come back, but then you go, oh, I wish that would have been off COVID? Well a story like COVID. Let me tell you something. It's never been told like this before these have been through. We're gonna talk about that.
We're gonna talk about this with our friends, our guests. We're gonna make them relive their their professional trauma, live on their on lost culturing stuff. It's gonna be really really cool. Really was the first moment of like, oh no, this is really this is a this is a global thing. Where are when when it affected losest bookies? We know, Okay, this has gone COVID has gone international, has crossed hemispheres
has gone down south to Chile. It attacked the production. Well, the faith they say about COVID is it attacks productions first and then it goes out from there. But it's the virus is becoming very intelligent and it wants to have our favorite shows, productions, the smartest favorite shows. It wants to It wants to destroy our favorite shows from the inside out. That's what they're saying now. Ms. Rochelle Wilenski, Um of the CDC, she just came out and said that.
She said, I didn't I didn't know who was leading the CDC. Good for you for keeping up with Zelenski. But I believe it's pronounced. You know what I'm saying, as w's off and our again, this is an international thing. Um. But here's the thing. Here's the thing about Lost of Spookies And for people like me who gets sort of scared, this is more funny than scary, you know what I mean. Like this show, it's really more funny than scary. It's
like the Haunted Mansion that doesn't the world. It's like, yeah, of course the like presents us like spooky is scary, but really it's really more funny it's really more funny for me. But this is the thing is that the things that they are asked to do on that show bec says huge fan TVH. I mean, I'm sure she's she's a person who likes, who has tastes good things. In this week's episode, you had our four principles hanging from fucking crazy racks on in a graveyard. I said,
this is watch the goal. This is a practical effect that we're not seeing in other things. You know, my biggest problem with Marvel is it's not you know what I mean, Like when they go out to space. I would like to see that, but not be like that's a card, damn cards, you know what I mean. Like my girls were really truly hanging in the show. Yeah, I want to see more of that, more practical. My girls were dressed in a sea monster costumes, sitting on a runting a rock in the middle of the ocean
while the waves crashed. I actually found that to be scary, Like I was watching it. I was watching it and I was like, okay, take myself out of knowing that it's more funny than scary, Like and just was like in a world where like I'm walking into this and I don't know. Am I scared? And I saw the sea creature and I was scared for sure, a little bit like if I saw that in real life. Forget it, forget it. We need, we need, we need, we need to bring them in. This is so exciting. Yeah, so
they can explain how they achieve all of this great stuff. Absolutely, it really is an incredible show. If you if you aren't already watching its Loss Bukie season two, are the the our guests, are the co creators of this wonderful, wonderful program. When you said, hbl baby, it's not TV, it's low spo. There you go. Everyone, please welcome and a brea Hi. The last time you guys came on, Do you guys remember this was when I'm in the mistake of calling Poppy Juice a circuit party. I remember that.
I remember that. And then and then they reached out and they were like, what why did you say that? And I was like, I don't know. I don't know what circuit parties are, but now I do. Now you know, what do you prefer? I think that's similar to like if someone said that you do skits. No not even It's like said that I do. If someone said that I do ad libs, oh s, that's that. That's that ad libs show. If they called Saturday Night Live a review,
like there's a popular weekly review. Yeah, that's it's like that. It's like that. It's like that anyway. Not a circuit party, Well, these are two party animals. How do you define a circuit party? A circuit party is the circuit party is a party that travels. There's literally a circuit there's like there's like a circus well kind of and like Dumbo, like I don't want to go to a circus party
for real. Like if they cleared out all the animals and just let you party in the circus area, that could be fun as heck, like and they maybe like you jump on the trampolines and stuff. And this is assuming that there's trampolines at the circus. I don't know. I haven't been in a long time, but I feel like that's one of those things. I feel like that's one of those high concept ideas that sounds really fun on paper and then logistically it's it's just not fun.
Do you guys think I want I want to put a question to the group, is it possible to have a circus themed party that is not heterocepxtual and aesthetic, Like, is it possible to clear a circus party in the look and the feel of it? I think I'm fortunately yes, but in but in a way that we wouldn't enjoy it, because it's like Joak and Booster says, like a Great Gatsby party will always away, always frustraight, no matter what. That is correct. Also the same goes for a Madman party. Yes, yeah,
but also we don't need to do those parties. No, it's true. No, I absolutely agree. I said, but if if it were to come to that that someone's held gun into your head said you need to throw a
queer circus party, which you could do? You think that's possible, Julio saying yes, but yeah, but it would be lame, it would be I think I think that, like I So the other night I found myself going to Union Pool, which I haven't been to since college dangerous, and it was like, oh, yeah, like these people need a gimmick. They need a little taco truck in the back. They need like little tickets to get their pizza. Gets for pizza, and the tickets for drinks. It's like, can we bypass this?
Like what is the tickets of it? All? They need? They need like, oh, it's really good because it's like when you get a drink, they give you a little ticket and then you get the pizza and it's just like wow, you really need just task. You need a task because each other's companies is not fa filion enough. Oh no, you think so? You think that's what it says. I think so yeah, wait, I think I know a way to clear the circus party. You have the animals,
they're just sort of running them up. Sure, yeah, then I think that circus party has become queer. Yeah, okay, that's good. I mean, and I think we've we've talked about this at at length, but I can't remember if in public forms were privately but like about how every cloth starre unfortunately months go space circus. So the circus Harris, some of them are stuck in it, like pink right,
like profess what we're stuck in it? But cups must go through a circus era because it plays with like and that is that is when the pop starts coming to terms with like feeling like a like a caged animal, feeling like you know, it's just there to entertain feeling like because it's it's very akin to like tears of a clown, like I'm here for you, but like who's here for me? Sort of like and then it's either
that or they go the other. They go with the more aggressive route of grappling with their fame, which is themes of surveillance like hands like get out of my face. It's like yeah, it's like cameras everywhere. Uh So it's like, yeah, it's one or the other. It's either like you take take on those themes with sad this which its circus, or with aggression, which is But every every pop star does have a song about like the perils of fame in a way that like I was listening to I
don't know if you've listened to like MO plus. Yeah, so there's some new songs and one of them is about like, yeah, going outside with a hoodie and sunglasses, hope no one sees me paparazzi TMZ. And it's like even Resale has got one. It's like they all have to have the like this is me suffering for you, yeah, yeah, comments on my public pain, right, even like the York.
But The York's was about divorce, like if if you if you bypass, if you avoid circus or surveillance, then your fate is written in stone, which is you will write a divorce album, like Kelly Clarkson is about to release her divorce album The York How to Be how to Divorce album, Like there's no escape like these are this is the maze And if Kelly Clarkson and b York are both doing it, that's how you know. Truly it's just truly international, which is which is the title
of app Truly International. I would I would say that there's three eras, and I think the surveillance era sort of sort of like is one of the sub genres of one of these three. There's three. It's circus and whatever fun you can have in the circus, there is general dark. I'm unhappy and that can be for many different reasons, one of which one of the top reasons is surveillance perazzi, I can't live my life. And then the third era that every pop star goes through is
of course Christmas slash Holiday. So once they've hit all three actually have to be killed. They have this is interesting, So you're saying that Christianity cannot be avoided. I don't think so. In in, I don't think it can be. Yes, we are living in a commercial, capitalist society, and therefore, even if you do not have a connection to Christmas, you do have to participate in it because it's a checkbox.
And you know this is probably their labels deciding or whoever the hell, but you must at least pretend that you decorate a treat. I can't wait for Arcas Christmas album. I can't wait for our Game and Rosalia's Christmas album. Christmas album is literally coming, yeah, I think, yeah, yeah. The Spaniards love Christmas spinnings. I love Christmas. I literally I was studing student. I were in Mayorka trying to heal a cab and then like one of the caps
like sped off. We were waiting in line with some people and then one of these girls, I think she was local, she was like one of the girls just screamed mommy, and it kind of was really fun to hear out in the wild. I was like, oh, yeah, like it's international. Why did I think this was just I'm I'm stupid and thinking that this was only something people in New York were listening to this international sound is very New York whatever, It's stupid. Wait does LOSAs Spookies?
Is lois Spookies in Chile? Does it? Is there a place in Chile for people to watch it? HBO Max, isn't Chile? Great? Yeah? We know that in just like that plate and Chia we know about while you were aware. Yeah, the crew knew which idea was. Yeah, they were like, They're like, the obsession and the fascination with D is international and it's coming from the same place emotionally. Yeah, everyone's shocked. Everyone shocks and yeah, yeah, well did you
see um the table ideas? Like there was there was a picture of D as a script on the table read and it really filled me with anticipation. I can't even describe. I love an actor of posting a table read pick. Yes, exciting coming together? Who knows what for me this season? Did you guys? Did you guys do
table rates for season two? H right? Yeah it was at Yeah, okay, So then what we were talking about earlier before we brought you guys on is I will never ever forget the face time call that we were all on and I don't know I don't know if you were in the bedroom with Julia was in the bedroom with Sam Taggert and like Greta and like every you guys were all in CHILEA and you guys were you guys like yeah, we're all flying back tomorrow, like mar They were like we don't know, like what customs
is going to be, like like it's crazy, like that was that was like that was a really low moment for I don't know his stream human history, but like people I think and like and like like our our friends, I think everyone being like oh did you hear like Lusi's like they're all having to fly back in Chile was hard for our friends going through productions. COVID hit hardest with those of us m artists that were commis productions. Very sad to me, were you okay? What so that was?
Mark was in New York. I was just in New York. I remember faced hiding and then like yeah. It was like Taggart and gret At being like this is this is really crazy. We were like on the fence about like what should we do? Do we wait? And once
border started closing, we were like we gotta get home now. Otherwise, oh my god, and Sam Taggard became patient zero for Oh yeah, Sam was our sort of like that's a final straw, no more wait and see because he had been at a show in New York and uh got a call once he was back in Chile that he was exposed to COVID and then we were called from Comedy Central. So much. This was when you guys returned this like we have to stop. It's here, it's too close.
It's among us. Yeah, it's among them to have comedy sant Haggard to be a Comedy Central has brought COVID toilet negative. But it was like, okay, so Sam might
have this like new Byras none of us know anything about. Yeah, it was like it was like the thing of the like one of the big reasons I might be wrong on this, so nobody quote me, but it was one of the big the big pathways of it going from China to Italy was like people sat Taggard, it was Sam's happen because they bring in new talent from that It's never been seen before from Italy industry. Why no, what what? What? What do you think? It was? It
was people? It was people going to fashion week in Milan it was like fall fast in Milan in March or whatever it was, people like were hanging out in Shanghai or whatever the funk and then going to Italy and then people from Italy taking it to New York. That was like the sort of because he did follow
the trail is very fashion. It's very that a fashion. Yeah. Yeah, and again the fact that it got to the least fashionable places last, Yes, that's to arrive because yes, it's so far, but then Red States took a while for them to get hit because fashion fashion, we kind of made it there. Yet the biggest successory. Yeah wait, yeah, what we're gonna say about Santiago, Like it just took
a while. Yeah, it took a while. And then it was the thing where like once cases started popping up, it was rich people that had been traveling that had come back. Yeah, okay. I feel like this season on a SPOOKI is like you're really seeing like, um, Santiago, shine, wealth or whatever you're You're you're seeing like a big house in the hills and like like like um like Tatti Tati's house. Um is yes, the houses and Sheila,
It's so funny. Rich people in Santiago love Marilyn Monroe, And so when we scout, every house has like happy pop art Marilyn Monroe paintings and like basements that are decorated for the kids, that have like fax panels of like big crowds. It like it's a very strange. There was truly that mural with a circuit party. Actually, Like there was one that had a crowd that had like hands up in the air and it was like three kids in the basement. Wow, when are we going to
hear her story? You know? Yeah? Out what was really going on there? Do you guys feel like a location scout is sort of the best kind of way to see a place is to really learn about it. When I travel, I look for location scouts so I can doesn't really know a place. Yeah, I always make I always be sure to like cook up with a location scout. Honestly, Yeah, that's a hot job. I took a her. He's a
location scouting things craft, he's going to go. I worked with a with a location scout on a different thing here in New York, and I was interviewing location scouts and I like didn't truly like how do you get tommal conversation whether or not it's almost going to be a good location scout right. Oh yeah. And I was talking to her and she said, and I quote, I love locations. Yes, you told me about her. Oh, she will be in my life for the rest of my life. And I love her. I love her the best place
to go. I adore her. Hy Elizabeth says, I love locations. That that is really that is really meaningful because then that means that like she loves all of it, right, she loves going to places. She loves figuring out where should go and the locations within a location, you know, Like that that is a real skill. Like I don't ever walk into a place and like you get a feel for like the layout or like the traffic patterns
of it all. Like that's a very hard concern. I feel like I'm always like underestimate what it takes to make something happen in the place, and I like walk into like uh, like some there's always a time in pre production, whether the Loves the Spookies or anything where I'm like, uh, what if we just do it there in that corner, like whether everyone's like no, everyone's like no, don't you see how that's And you're like I really don't. Yeah, I'm like, well, what if you clear these asks and
we do it here in the office. But you know, you know what I think about is that the people, the people who have to put up the signs, who have to tape up pieces of paper in these locations and arrows to the bathroom, arrows to like crafty Like, I'm like, that is like, I can't. I don't think that way. I feel like that's a very that's a skill.
But how But you're saying, like, how do you know how if someone's good at locations unless they say I love Yeah, anyway, you also have a passion for staying someplace and seeing it and then also going somewhere else and seeing that place and staying there and being able. And you know it's all about totality. Yeah, it's all abity. Well, I think this season is perfect already and I can't wait for more. My girl, Kim Petris is in it. Kim is playing the Secretary of State, the secret Melanie's boss.
She's US ambassador. Melody Gibbons is boss Kim Petris in her acting debut. I want to say, wow, Well, it depends whether you consider music videos acting because so much. So much what happens in film and television also happens in music videos, such as hitting marks such as giving emotional intention. So is music video acting acting? I think you have to answer that question Bowen before you ask,
is this Kim Patriss's acting debut? I think I think, case by case, I think that sometimes it's an extension of performing. Sometimes they do see it as like, oh, I'm making a short film and I have lines like if like if we're talking like totally like what's there a Katy Perry music video where she's like an old lady makeup and she's like the one that got away looking at a box of memories. She's she's extremely old woman. In fact, the makeup artist probably did a little too
much house. Yeah, she looks maybe like the oldest woman alive. She's in the future house and she looks through an old box and then she flashes back to being young Eaty Perry, and then only then it only matter she able to tell the story. That's the device. Okay, see, that's that's acting period. Yeah. But what I would argue, if there's no dialogue, they don't have to memorize dialogue. Dialogue video it's like, what are you thinking about? Nothing?
You thinking about the one that got away? Sure? Anna.
On that note, I was gonna say that it's not acting if the person is singing or lip syncing to the words, But it is acting when it's cutting to them and there's music playing, but they're not making any shapes with their mouth that they're To me, the hardest kind of acting in a music video potentially is when they just have to like like you know, like like like look, like emote, do something, you know, like kind of like you're supposed to like get a peek into
your interior world or something, and they're just sitting there and they're just kind of like frowning or smiling or you know, doing or just holding an emotion. Does that make sense? Yeah? I think I mean that that is acting, of course, But I would still argue that the dialogue thing is a big difference, a big differentiator, because someone who hasn't memorized dialogue before getting you know, sheets of paper,
that's like you have to memorize this. I think it's very like, oh gosh, yeah, I can feel overwhelming um and then having to like perform it, you know, not just do you know it, But can you act the way you did in your music video? While you say these words, you should you should teach a class that is for pop stars learning how to act? And oh, I would love to n y U as an adjunct
professor acting. I think a lot of I think a lot of the pop girls would go back and take that class because I think a lot of them are interested in acting clearly, I mean you see them all out here. I mean not just Kim, I mean moving beyond that. How many? What is the best pop star
acting performance? What is it? I guess share I think objectively, Yes, yes I have something if you count for yes, yes, I have a question another question, but I guess it's what's the best pop star acting performance in a music video? M and I have I have I have a bad answer, but it's an answer that I will stand by for now. It is It is Britney Spears and every time and
Lucky See Lucky. Lucky is really good because it's more camp and it's more just like ticks you on a ride, like she's having fun with it, and every time she's trying to be dropped in and give you again peek into her surveiled world. That's the one which she reincarnates, right, Yes, that's the baby at the end. Yeah, well, every time where she watches herself, she watches herself die, she watches
herself die. She gets into a huge fight with her boyfriend and they barge into the huge mansion together and she like throws ship. He kicks the lamp and she's like yelling at him, like it's really raw. I actually have what I think is a very close to correct answer for this, and it's Rihanna in the Stay music video, because it's just her in the tub and she just sits in the tub the whole time. It's a wonner.
It's one shot of her in the tub, and she only she only sings the lyrics sometimes the rest of his or her sort of just as Bone was saying, like sitting there and sort of living the song. And then at the end she does like sing early lip sync the end of it, and the very last shot as her sinking into the tub, but you just see her tears start to fall down and she just looks exhausted, and I'm like, yeah, I mean, you can't tell me
this wasn't acting in this moment. I mean, she Rihanna she gets out of her own way enough to access an acting ability, whereas I think a lot of pop stars get in their head about the fact that they are acting with dialogue whatever it is, and then they stop acting the second may stop singing, like you know what I mean, like like it's so it's interesting, who's
a bad actor? They approach it the way they approach lip syncing, which is you have to make it over the top and whatever because you're not you know so, So then they bring that same energy to acting and then it feels like, oh gosh, you're trying so hard to act. Like Kim was really good at she played someone who really believed the words that she was saying. Yeah, Kim, Yeah Kim, and good stuff. Yeah. They're so funny together, and the friends now love it. They like hang out
the New Paris and Nicole. I think, I think the power that Kim, Fachris and Gratis Heidelman could wield would be very, very very ense. It would be very immense. I really I had to write down the line because I think it's I think it's I think I think I get I think it's it's very representative of the show in some way. But I don't know how. But in the first episode of this season, I wrote down Oliver Twigs like the movie was an important is an
important character that I hope an important character? Really? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. He runs a graveyard but just buries the bodies and doesn't is not responsible for them being buried in the right place because on paper, what you've hired him to do is to bury the bodies, and now if you want to know where they are, well, I'm sorry, that's not that's not on him. That to me is like such a I don't know, like I've missed the
show so much because that. I don't know. I just feel like that is so you guys in your sense of humor and just there's no show making jokes like that does none none. Isn't it weird that comedy shows aren't like silly? I think it is weird. I think it is one of the one of the weirdest things is that comedy shows aren't funny. It's such a phenomenon, like it's like not that I'm not going to directly like quote unquote shade the same shade, etcetera, all those things,
but it's just like, oh, that was that's filed under comedy. Huh. Interesting, I don't I never want I never want to watch a comedy show. And at the end of that was a good point, you know what I mean, I'd like, I think that so many shows feel like they have to do that is to make you walk away going huh, I never thought about it like that, and you don't have to or or or you know, like I don't, I like I think that huh. I never thought about it like that is so much better than finally, yes,
oh god, it's about damn time. It's about damn time, or even do you guys agree with this, or even to come away from a show and go, wow, that was really well balanced. Unless it's like parasite, unless it's like a movie that switches genres in the middle or something,
then yeah, then that's great. Then that's a very formal thing like it honestly like it should be well balanced if if it's that, But like sometimes people are like, like, oh, well we were What we really wanted was for this to be grounded, and it's like who is leaving something and being like I loved how grounded it felt so real.
That felt just like my that felt just like my boring life, except except the people on the screen have like so much makeup and their teeth are so white, and the up are insane, and all the women have like fake eyelashes, just like my life. It's like my life. It's an interesting thing though, because like I think, like this weirdly does fall under the banner of like people
want to see themselves reflected. But it's like at a certain points, like, yes, that is true, like in terms of diversity, obviously, like everyone should be reflected, everyone should be on screen. But it's like I don't necessarily want to see like something that looks like my life on
screen because I know it's boring. Like I do want to see like the white teeth version of myself say these things because they can feel so much more entertaining than I can as a regular viewer, Like I would so much rather my avatar Sandra Bullock like do this for me, Like I don't want to see my own life up up screen. See, I really don't like the way that everyone on TV, particularly comedies, look like they're in a Capital one commercial. They all looks so like
we've seen it. All the sets are so like meat and you know, like during the during the pandemic, like everyone, like everyone on Planet Earth. I rewatched Sex in the City and the first season of Sex in the City the carry's apartment on the on the edge of her door, you could see like fingers mudges, which is a very
real thing. It's like, oh yeah, like this person is like opening the door and placing her hand there and she hasn't repainted obviously, and it's and then it's like asked the series, you know, morphs into what we have that which isn't just like that. Everyone looks like they're in like earned sky miles by like like like an oral b commercial. Yes, yes, it's it's interesting because they get the budget to do it and they get the
time and energy to do it. Because that's another thing is it's just like a lot of these things like like you you only have so much time to shoot it, and you only have so much money, as you guys know, And so that actually can be a strength when you're like leading into the reality of something because just because you have the time, budget, energy, money to do this, like Sex in the City two point oh, doesn't necessarily
mean that that's what we wanted to see. Maybe we wanted to see like, you know, these characters that have inherent glamour because they're played by these actresses in situations that feel a little bit more realistic that maybe that's
the thing. Yeah, It's like the set dressing or the art direction starts to mimic the sort of like perfect look of the actor whose hair is never going to move at a place, whose clothes is like perfectly ironed, and and then it all starts to feel like none of it feels so uh like not lived in by either performers or the sets. I love. I love a wrinkly shirt on TV. I love a wrinkle shirt. I love staink teeth. I'm always were to have a character like in a cast or in crutches and like that
just like never goes addressed. Yeah, what they do to their knee. Yeah, it's like they don't want to talk about it. The stuff out about that and they live in a world because because in reality, though, someone walking around and crutches, you like, their friends would be like what are you? Are you? Where do you get out of those? I mean, but is that is that not
what you're saying though? Is that you're like they never because like no, like if you no no, no, like if if I would love like just the scene of like you go to a party and someone at the party has a cast and no one talks about it because you don't know that person that yes, yes in a very real way or like or like even just like at an office, like like no one's ever pregnant, and if they are, that's the point of the story.
No one's like actually pregnant, right right. Ah see, that's great because sometimes they want to Like sometimes as an actor, I want to walk onto a set and be like, oh I had an idea, maybe I'm at yeah literally though, and then and then everyone just kind of gives you a look like well Jamie Lee Curtis and everything, everyone at once has that sling on her. I don't know whose idea that was, but I love that it was like, oh, yeah,
this person is a fully realized person out of this world. Yeah, and she's probably very tense and like we sucked up her arm in some way and you're not actually going to talk about it, but it's like it's such a telling detail. It was giving, like it was giving like low impact stress fracture, you know what I mean. Someone who one day and it's like she's it's like it contributes to her anger and her the fact that like she is on moving. You don't need to know why
she has that injury. It's just part of who she is and part of how you're going to experience her and how the characters are going to be treated by her. You're right. I never thought about it like that, Like it's it's a very good detail, like you see you like sort of get her. Yeah, you know what I saw the other night, I did go see you don't worry darling um. By the way, I have friends who are going to be the door don't worry darling prest
at their Halloween costume, but they always be together. Yeah, would have the s on the other one. And then
about how whether or not it happened or not. I felt like because we talked about it so much, I owed it to the movie to go see it, and like I did go see it, and what I think is interesting about some some of these things, just like my problem with the movie is like it's so obsessed with being a social satire that it doesn't get that what it really is and what it could have been so much better is just a straight up thriller, like these things don't have to be important, like especially when
we can tell what you're saying from this for a second, it starts like the trailer. I was like, I've seen the entire movie. After I saw the trailer, I know exactly where this is going. I doubt yeah, yeah, And it's like, why do we have another one of these? Like actually, things are not as they seem, you know. It's like, Okay, we've seen that movie a million times, or like if that is going to be the movie, then reveal it early and then let this movie become
something else like that. I guess that's that's the thing is. It's like it's just so rare to see things genuinely having fun like and and it because I get things get tripped up in the well, what is it in a macro sense? What are we saying of it all? It's like sometimes you actually don't need to say anything. It can just be you know, like fun. And I
guess that's what I like about. That's what I love about LOSAs Spookies is like it feels like you guys like break story with comedy first, and I really I don't know if that's true, but for example, like in the second episode Greta, Greta getting rid of her by putting her in the lead bikini and having her jump off the boat. That to me seems like, oh, this is like a way to communically solve this problem. That's
completely liked. It's just like so many things are like but but but but but and so heavy, and it's just like, no, the audience will go along with you whatever it is as long as it's fun, funny or makes sense. You know what, I you know what movie I keep thinking about that, I like watched it truly is one of my favorite comedies now is back. For so reason I keep thinking about it is because a it's funnier than any comedy that's been done recently, true, and I feel like it. It is sort of like
wiltely moving and it's a beautiful movie. It's a beautiful movie. And it's like a celebration of just like everyday normal people in like everyday normal places like it takes place of like Gray Sky, Virginia rest stops that like like places that you like don't want to set a movie is. It just stays with you far more than any like thing created by like eight writers Yes, it's just so
like carefree and fun. And I was like, oh, yeah, like this is ideally what we get into this business or it just makes something that's like it didn't I Like, I don't think they were like, Okay, we need to like have a point. I think that eric Andre's just Eric Andre and who's just like incredibly funny. But then they like accomplished so much more right because they leaned
in with what they were good at. Yeah, And I just feel like, you guys with Fred is such a nice It's such a perfect like match in terms of like what what what he like like like like his journey to get to this point in his career and then you guys coming to meet him is like oh yeah, Like the three of you aren't really not concerned with importance in that sense of like it should be you know what I mean important, it's like significance or like you know, yeah, I mean imagine we were like, you guys,
this show is a queer lot X. You have to watch Yeah, seeing it a lot, it's it's like, yeah, I mean Julio has talked about this, like we've talked about the sort of like you know, it's activism, like watching our show is some form of activism or making it a some form of activism, and it's like, no, it's not, no, that's not consuming. Equating consumerism with activism
is the thing that like kills everything. It is like a capitalist thing of it's so it's just exploits because of course, I like people feel that need to quote unquote do good and be a reactionary against like the horrors of the world. That is like a beautiful instant and for like all these media conglomerates to exploit that and be like, okay, we hear you that, like all these like really scary things are happening, like towards queer people or whatever kind of people, is like, how about
you watch this? You stick it to the Supreme Court? Like what are you talking about? Truly it's spooky, it's spooky. But the thing too is like I guess the fact being like, look, it exists. That already makes it like if you need it to be this important, you know what I mean. If you need it to be that, then it is because it exists. But why but but but is it good? You know what I mean? And the fact is like like I would love to hear that things are good first, you know what I mean.
Like example, like I feel like with the Woman King, like the first thing I heard was this is really
really really good. And now I'm like watching the interviews with like Viola Davis and everyone, and like they're talking about how like cool it is that it's like an all dark skinned black woman cast, international cast of women all telling a story about like a shared history UM and like telling the story that like maybe people didn't know that like the Dora Milaj from Marvel was based on this actual like warrior group of women UM from the Dahomey. But like it's just it's just like the
first thing I heard was that it was good. The first thing was not you better see this or we'll never get another movie like this and it will be your fault. And it's like, and this is why they passed these laws because you don't see this film. It's yeah, I think that the the like obsession with anything that is not like assists white straight like narrative being like, well, it's actually like so critical and important that you watch this.
It's like okay, but yeah, like you said, is it good or is it because just because it has a diverse cast writers or whatever. Doesn't mean it's good. It could be. There's a lot of really bad shows with diverse writers and you know one one doesn't like. I don't know. I think at the end of the day, it's still like, well, is what's the quality? Like Yeah, that's almost why I feel like press tours almost don't help sometimes, Like I don't think it helped. I don't
think it's helped a single. I don't think the press tour has helped something I've seen in a long time. Like I don't think the press store has made me want to watch something more than just seeing the trailer in a very long time. Like that's something I think we need to maybe look at. I do think that press stour should only be a trailer. I do agree with that, and then let's talk about it afterwards, you
know what I mean. Of course, we understand how it works, like you know, the star system, like you have to trot out people, but at a certain point, it's like you have to know it's not helping for one person or two or three people from a movie to be like in someone's face every single second of every single day in the media landscape, that is so like black and white, Like it's just it's kind of asking for
you know that don't worry Darling drama. Imagine deciding whether or not you're gonna go watch a movie and being like, Okay, I'm just gonna watch the behind the looks feature rent Ye to decide to decide if I want to see this. Yeah, it exists to like support each other. It's like these media outlets think like, oh, we need to have yeah, behind the scenes talks with the cast and crew or something. Um,
but it's like no one's really watching that. These are YouTube videos that have like, you know, a thousand views and like, but then they need to be able to sell themselves to the places that making them to get the money for doing you know, it's just like a little self fulfilling like yeah, yeah, yeah, or imagine like after all this, don't worry Darling Press were like, I'm sort of on the fence about seeing the movie. I'm
gonna see how Olivia Wilde does on Kimmel. She has the answers I want, then maybe I'll go buy a ticket to this two hour plus movie. I checked the reviews doesn't have good ones. Okay, yeah, this might be the maker break this might be like just very gay of me or very basic, but I feel like the only press stores that have like made me want to go see something I haven't live megas yeah, and like but like I feel like people got sick of it. For Gucci, people are like, oh god, like what is
what is the story? Now? She was haunted by a ghost the press an Oscar campaign that's different. Yeah, those are so hers and she had she had one where dovetailed into the Oscars campaign and then when when she wasn't winning Precursores, when she wasn't nominated, then ended it kind of got truncated, which might have been a mercy, but I feel like with it, like that is a memorable press store that I think honestly did get people
to watch that movie. But also Stars First Stars. Yes, that that worked because that timing wise worked with Gucci. That ended with her not getting and she was nominated for everything else. So I just think there is a case to be made for having these people shut the far group A great agree, But I did see I actually saw Gucci, and I did not see a star is Born feels right for you, though, I feel like Gucci is screaming is Yeah, Starborn looked sleepy. You still
haven't seen Stars Born? No, just I don't think you're missing out. Fine, that's fair, but I feel like Juli should at least watched the first twenty minutes. You know what I'm saying. You know, like that beginning is nice. You need to get through. Why did you do that? You need to get to where they get to SNL they go to performs. She goes, wow, do you look so good in those genes? You come around me with
Alice like that? You hear je You hear Jenner Rosatan of the stage manager at SNL go okay, and we're back in five for Alec and then Alec Baldwin goes Ladies and Gentlemen once again, the show is Alec Baldwin with musical guest Alid. No, you have to have to get to that. You have to watch Stars Born. I mean, and I understand what you're saying. I don't think. I don't think that anyone would go like about their life like being like I never saw it, but Julio has
to see it once? Yeah, yeah, because I was with someone that wanted to watch it. It was not a movie that I was had any interesting scene. So I go to see it and um, and yeah, it was just like Okay, here's this movie that it is taking itself so serious. Yes it is so yeah, like you can you can see Bradley Cooper off camera being like you know, and it's just like yeah, I was like, this movie is not for me. Yeah it was this was this what your directorial style was? Yeah, what's the
best way to capture the obsession? I also I hate movies that were like so much of the marketing it for it is I guess what the actor directed, you know, and it's like, Okay, fucking caresfle directed? Like who cares? Has it been annoying for you to talk about this season? Because I'm sure people are asked, well, but I was going to say that it is like think, actually really
funny to realize that that is directing. I think that's actually really funny and really do yeah, because that's the directing in But anytime an actor like directs and then it's like wow, like you know, like now it's some sort of like tortured artist thing of like I'm the director. So now it's like yeah for me, like that's what I can't stand. And I felt like a star was born. So much of the marketing was like, you know, shots of Bradley Cooper on set and there's like a crane
and it's like a really high yeah. I also love BTS photos of directors in this era because it's always them like with like a ship shirt on, like the COVID masks, like a little bit of skew under their nose, and then pointing at something with a hand on their hip you know what I mean. I just that signaling and the crane to the crane has to be yes, absolutely yeah wild and I get up like Bradley. They asked me I had to I had to approve pictures of me directing. And I was like, do we have
to do these? And they were like, um, They're like you know, yeah, Like can you pick some of these? I was like, okay, I'll pick two pictures and it is they want me with the mask with the actors, you know, gesturing I was working. I have proof, like like if you ever have to point, like there's there's marks. We we all know what it is. Like, Yeah, pointing is directing. That's a real culture, real culture. Number pointing is pointing directing. I wouldn't drink I feel like it's
really such a hard job. Um, I don't know. I I feel like it's one of those things where I have too much respect for it to do it myself because I feel like I would not rise to the occasion. What about you, Matt, I want to do it. I feel like it's been domestified a little bit for me, and that makes maybe a little bit more interesting, I think.
I I similarly, it had this kind of like mystique of like, oh wow, I don't know if I can do that, and then once you realize what it is, it's like, oh, okay, no wonder Olivia Wild is director. No one. It's like it's not that you know, I'm
just using that as an example. No shape of to you know, directors, But it's something that it's almost like directors don't want other people to know that, Like it's not it's not the most difficult thing in the world to direct, Like, um, yes there's art to it, Yes there's skill, etcetera. Um, but it's not fucking brains, you know. Mostly what it is is just making decisions. Yes. Yes.
The thing the thing about directing that I think makes me the most nervous is like making sure things are managed well, which but that's not really your job that
lean into that. But but let's say let's say, like on like a dirt Worry Darling, like if like ship is crazy and and that's maybe why Olivia is getting some and I'm sorry, I'm sorry we're talking about this this much, but like that's why Olivia is getting some flack for like not making not keeping it professional and like male directors do this all the time too, and all this stuff, but like making sure like the environment
is is nice. And that's why, like David O. Russell, I have no respect for his style of directing where it's like, oh, you're a tyrant. You make people feel bad, like I hate, like I feel like, yeah, yeah, I mean you do set the tone right, like the directors huge and setting the tone of the set um that's
definitely an important part of it. But yeah, sometimes I'm not sure, like, Okay, is it entirely the director's fault if it's bad on set or is also maybe an executive producer that's there, that's you know what I mean, Like, like as someone who's seen don't Worry Darling, now, like all her departments were perfect, like the fucking makeup was stunning, the hair was stunning, the shots were incredible, Like it
was all great. It just came down to the script wasn't good and it was and there was no vision, which which ultimately, like the director has to have a vision and they have to be able to make decisions that point towards that vision. What's hard about it is that there are so many areas where something can go wrong, So if you make the incorrect or wrong decision in
one area, it can derail the whole thing. So you do have to have good instincts, and you have to be firm in those instincts and be a good collaborator. But ultimately, like it's about vision and making decisions that work toward that that vision, and you can make the decision of the time correctly, which I think like in this case she did, but then like the other ten percent can be so wrong that it doesn't even matter.
That's I think what's hard about directing is that, like, ultimately it's all on you and those decisions, like, and you can have a great team, but if one area that's major, like the script isn't right, then it doesn't matter a famously major areas, Yeah, yeah, I know. It's like there there are movies where it's like, Okay, that was well made, but the script was bad, right, and it's like it's very hard to separate one from the
other one. Okay, you did your job well, Like imagine you get the shitty script to director, like, well, I'm gonna do my best job to direct it as well as I can. The script is bad, so the end products will not be great because good directing can only make up for so much of that writing. Um, and yeah, but but but if it's like written and directed by the same person, then it's like, okay, then you kicked up.
Well I want to I want to say something that has it's like fully a segue out of this topic that I it's It's an anecdote that I heard about recently that I keep thinking about and I don't knowunced about this is that apparently Alfred Hitchcock uh would uh would go to restaurants and he would order a lot
of food, and all the courses would come. He would finish eating, then he'd call on the waiter and he would wave his little index finger and go again, and then have the meals start from the very beginning all over again and people, no, he would you need all of it? That strong decision he was making the decision again again that I love that too, imagine being so it's it's very um king like like I am so rich and I am so powerful that I will have dinner more than once. I'm gonna have dinner as many
times as I please. No one can, no one can stop me. That that that it bleeds out into the real world for him and to the exterior world. It's very it's very that scene from Spirit Away with the with the no sponsor, the restaurants so expressed past arrived and they can't they don't. They keep bringing like giant like he keeps crossing gold to them and he's good.
You need to write you need to write a movie called Hithcock at Dinner, which is just like a literal, like it all takes place in two hours and it's just his dinner and like the mid turn is like they realized he's ordered it again. Yeah, and was thrown into chaos. Yeah. I feel is there like a movie that like it sounds like like link Later would have directed this, like a movie that's just a meal? Is
my dinner with Andre? Is that it, Oh, my week with Maryland, my weeks me myself, and I like I keep saying to Julio, like his thread for his special ship be the word I has to be in all of them. Yeah, you want me to call the movie my first movie, my first my first movie idea. There's something so powerful communically about the word that. And there's something so powerful communically about the word MyD me being
in a title. Yeah something. Yeah, that's that's my that's my like linguistic theory and my my story, my little idea, my little idea, my little idea is really good. And the sequel can be my big idea, my big idea. Everyone loved My Little Ideas. The sequel Don't Love My Little Idea is a documentary about the first film, Yeah, about the success of the film feature It's a million,
the first get a million viewers. Yes, some featurettes, I remember some feature atts, Like I actually remember one hunting featurette that we have talked about. Which one, which is what Utterly Hunting? Uh? It is a featurette about shooting the finale for Desperate Housewives, seen through the eyes of the creator of Desperate Housewives, Mark Mark Haunting Hunting. Yeah,
that was a pretty haunting. I know someone who was a writer on that series, and like was there when the Nicolette and Mark slap went down, the quote unquote slap that that caused the lawsuit, and just like hearing about like the temperature of the set at that time, what was going on with all the women, Like it's just nothing is what it seems, And there must be a film about that there. There has to be. There has to be a story told about the final about
the darkest, thickest days of Desperate Housewives. It's just too good. It's also like I feel like it's the kind of
thing that can't happen. Well, actually I don't know, because I was gonna say, like I feel like no one earns that kind of money on TV anymore, but maybe that's changing with like I don't know, only the movie stars that go there for like like with and with like a real exception, like like if there's anyone making a million per episode, and Jennifer Anison make two million an episode on the morning show to the Morning Shows, which means they make they each make twenty million a season,
and then people long ago and like who do you know that has seen Apple TV hit shows. I say it is my favorite television program. Sorry de losis bookies. It's almost as good as Morning Show, almost, guys, yeah you almost got there. I've never seen it. I don't know anyone that sees it. And it is a show that you hear about these astronomical fees that people get, and it's like and they keep adding high commanding people
to the cast, like they added Julianna Margalis. Season was on e Er for like thirty d years so and the Good Wife, so she's not commanding no dollars. They just put John Hamm in the cast. Like it's just like it keeps getting season three season Season three is coming and the third graders are pounding the pavement to
make this happen. Our bit is that third graders, right, And just like that in the Morning Show, Beyonce woman in the Morning Show, Beyonce as a weather woman in the morning so would be I think that they could write a really good art for her. She could be the one that says a big hurricane is coming and
get all your CaTiO furniture. She's a woman. Would you say math that it is a spiritual successor to Desperate Housewives, like I can't be fucking show because when you because when you were when aware that it's kidding, show wants to be like, I'm sorry, is it an It pretends to be a swork and show, but it's like, but when we're talking about like Melanie Gibbons killing off her reflection, as we like just like quickly resolve this, like cliffhanger
from season one, like Housewives would try to do that in a way that was not aware of how goofy, and it was goofy. It was being up the future well like well like house Does would always have like crazy cliffhangers, right, and then the next season within the first with an episode one, it's like, oh yeah, that thing,
it doesn't matter anymore. Someone died by being impaled by the tornado the tornado episode the Tornado basically because it was November Sweeps, like the character the characterized, the character dized, So John Stattery plays like a politician husband who marries Eva Longoria and it's quickly becomes a parent that he's married her because for optics and they're in a very
unhappy relationship. And luckily because it was November Sweeps, a tornado hit was Aria Lane and a white picket fence goes through his body as he's trying to chase her down. In this to me, you can't just you can't just have a tornado hit the block without being aware that
this is camp. But that's what I loved about those like those like primetime soaps of of of Yesteryear, which apparently which for Grey's Anatomy it's very much still on, but they would have like a disaster of the season and it was truly like my bit was always like, oh, there's a lion loose on with Steria Lane because they would do that hits the hospital and Grey's Anatomy like literally literally you have you have two characters you want to get rid of Mama. Put him on a small plane.
We can crash it, like like oh we like it literally got that insane though, Like I'll never forget the Desperate House five Supermarket shooting with Laurie Metcalf. Yes, that was amazing performance from an incredible form. It's and in a highly problematic episode of television that probably would not be made today. What was problematic about I don't think it was like entertainment. It was like someone gets shot in public and it was like, oh my god, that
commands a salary. Probably not like but like they dangled the you know, mass shooting of it all to get people to watch, and that sweeps culture. That was we need to do a big episode culture, which these streaming shows don't need to do because they stream. Yeah, but they do at the time, right right, right, exactly, exactly exactly. Wow, what a beautiful treat use on the television. And that was a treat use on the status of television, and
that only could have happened with our guests. We are now transitioning into I don't Think so, Honey, which is our sixty second segment that we all do that I can tell on the faces of the guests they're just now remembering never really innovated on the form. She was the first person to say, I don't think so, honey, I don't think so honey, just one minute. I mean that is the first, the first meta, the first meta, I don't think the honey, I think we ever someone's
ever done. The first is the bowl of things that happens on the podcast, only the live one. Oh, we're not doing that for you, okay, okay, and then then you guys go, But I have something that it's afflicting me as of today. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as time starts to know, I don't think so honey, all medicine tastes bad? How come we there hasn't been an invention of medicine that get
this tastes good. I don't think so money that we can put again, I will say, it's satellites in the sky. We can't have a day quote that tastes good. How about day quote that tastes like I don't know strawberries? How about day quote that tastes like I don't know cherries? And I understand that they try to make this a cherry flavor. I would probably go out there and I would say, hey, what would you think? What would you say? The day quill taste like? They're like, oh, I guess cherry, Yeah,
cherry with terrible medicine. So honey, where are doctors on this? Where a scientists on this? Get get your flavoring out, mama, Now make the medicine taste better, because I haven't. I'm congested. I have things going on inside of me, but I I wake up every day and my eyes open and they opened in terror because I know, I mean, I have the bad taste of day quill, night quill. Don't even get me started. Now I'm supposed to sleep, I don't think so. Wait, you know you can also take
a pill for me. Yeah, but you don't have to taste. I'm sorry, but you know what that that that while I see a here and respect that, and have taken in my life many pills, and let's not get it twisted. I have taken pills and I will in the future. I still don't understand why this medicine that's supposed to be over the counter, and you know, sometimes it's tough to get these pills. This over the counter stuff so has to taste like ab solute poison. It tastes like poison,
I will say some of them. I likes taste great. No days, I don't mind the flavor at all. You don't mind day. That's that's why. Maybe it's the fact that I had a cold right after it and the day cold brew like that was not choice. People like pepto bismol legitimately has no I have no notes for the taste. It feels. It feels so good. You enjoy absolutely, you probably pepped a lot like a tornado one with stereo lane. There we go kill John Slattery every now
and then period. Alright, so yeah, I'm ready. Um okay, so this is the blessed moment where we get to experience Bon Yang's I don't think so, honey, And as time starts now, I don't think so honey. Figurines with the arms and legs that don't move, And better yet, why don't statues have arms and legs that I'm not talking animatronics. I don't need them to like move around.
I just want you to be able. The public should be able to adjust the arms and legs of a statue because because otherwise, if I want to just look at something, a static representation of something, I would just google the image searching. I need to be able to. It's the joy of seeing something in three dimensional space and in reality is to be able to sort of engage with it, you know, articulate in certain ways. I need articulation in my action figures. I'm not action to.
It's just figurines, statues. If it makes them action figures, it makes them engaging. It's art that you can just really sort of feel like you created and collaborated on. That's the truest form of art figuring where you can move around the arms and legs and sometimes even the head. You can you can spin the head around and make it nod and shake it out, and that's one minute. So you wish that all figurines would sort of take a page from Barbie's book. Yes, but Barbie, Barbie, you
can't even Barbie, you can't even move. You can't bender at the knee or the elbow. But she certainly can do something like this in the clicking. The clicking is so nice and what we're gonna say. That reminded me that I have a theory about stum that some statues I think. I'm like, were they they mean to put it here? Or whoever was in charge of moving it sort of got tired. I went to take a break
and never moved it again. I was in I was by a hospital and there was a statute that was placed in the most bizarre place that I was like, why is there a statue here? This is There's no way this was on purpose. And then and then I thought, well, maybe this extends beyond the hospital statue. This problem, yes, that people just got lazy and moved it there. What was Oh my god, the statue, the shakier statue must have taken a long time to make for for this season.
For the first step, the prosthetic obviously, but the bottom statue. That's that's like, that's a big ask I feel on the status We need a statue of something, Yeah, because that was you shot that early. Yeah, I forget the logistics of this something. I remember there was a whole thing about the statue not maybe not being frogen in time. Oh yeah, but when when you started talking, I was really thinking you were describing an animatronic, and I was
going to tell you that not an animatronic. It's not you're looking for it. You're you're you're speaking to the state of statues. But it reminded me it doesn't. I don't want robotics. I want like just you know, I understand.
They opened up in in like Tokyo Disney, they opened up a new beauty in the Beast like ride and it's like a state of the art ride that has like state of the art animatronics and at the end of the ride, like you know in the movie when all the when like all the household aptters come to life and their people. These audio anactronics are so expensive.
They made audio animatronics of all the humans at the end when they come, so like they spent millions of dollars to make an animatronic of like Fifi the made as a human at the end, and it's just like one second, one second that no one knows who they are. They put all this money into character. So it's like, you know, and Beauty and the Beast, like all the household objects, like they're they're frozen like that because of
the spell. And she's the dust, She's the duster, and so at the end of the ride, Beau, she's great and gorgeous. But it's just so funny because no one grows up thinking, I can't wait to go to Disney World and see the Fifi um the human animatronics Mrs Cross as a human and Chip as a human are there, and like, they spent millions of dollars to make these animatronics figures, and no single soul was like, you can't wait to go see them brought to life, but they did.
The heartbreaking part about that, the ending of that movie that no one talks about is that you know, Mrs Popps and Chip and they all become human, then presumably they'll be servants for the rest of their lives. Yeah, they're going to like bring her breakfast in bed. They had the choice to be like fun and immortal, and
they wanted so badly to be mortal. And you know, in surface, it's very it has a whiff of that that really has anyone here seemed down the nabbey and there's always these like speeches were like the butler legitimizes basically the cast system, where there's like, no, we were born to the toxic mentality, hon Yeah, okay, mentality. It's a toxic mentality. Who of you two are going to go first? I'm ready, I have mine, Okay, first out time. This is Julio taures Is. I don't think so, honey.
This time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Weddings that end in I do, honey. If you're going to ask me to come to your little show, give me a show, you mean to tell me that you you we're all here. We're gonna watch this person walk down the aisle and then you're gonna kiss, and then it's gonna end. If you're not running in a wedding dress. Why are you buying a wedding dress? If that wedding dress is not gonna end up pattered, were covered in a little bit of blood, then what a what are
we doing? Where is the where is the drama? I can't believe that you sold me on a falls narrative by inviting me to this big dramatic thing, this big dramatic ceremony, and it just sort of deflates at the end. Mm hmm. I need I need her to run away five seconds or to be crying at the author because
because he ran one of the minute. You know, I always feel like it's a shame that there are no objections because I feel like that is a part where someone could make a really good point, you know what I mean, Like like, if you are at a wedding and there's no objections, that means that Brian has no good friends. And that's a rural culture. Now, that's a rule culture number fifty two. If you are at a wedding and there are there are no objections, that means
the friends, what about the groom? The groom I just assume has no We don't we don't care about the groom. That's right, Julio. Would you would you ever produce a wedding or oh right, not planned not that's different than planning a wedding. But you would like write a wedding. Yeah, like right, someone's wedding. That would be fun. I would love I would love you know what I love like I'm not gonna get I'm never gonna get married, but I wouldn't have my wedding would be very like a
dictator funeral, like like dictators. Dictator funeral a little scary, like so many people lined up, the public wailing outside. Yeah, exactly. And then it's both It's about you. It's about you in the person you're marrying in like a glass case. If me in a glass case approaching this person, oh my god, don't touch me or kiss me, this wedding will not end in I do it when ending your death. Yeah, I love a dictator funeral. Remember was it Kim Jongs
or Kim John Ills gneral snow the snowy funeral? I mean, chic I do. In Tenneman Square, you can line up to go see MOUs tomb and it is now embalmed in a glass coffin. It's crazy, but you can go see maus body and there's something really chic about that, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. People lining up to see remains of people is crazy, like in churches and they're like, this is a dried
blood of Christ that we have. I mean it's like a little scab in and people come and they're like it's crazy, but I kind of love there's something about that's that's to love about it as well. People who have open castor funerals, they don't if they saw how foolish they looked, they would have changed that plan. You all look bloated as hell. You look bloated, fucking washed them,
do you Your wake up is brutal? And also like the makeup artist was just the like embomber, Like it wasn't like they didn't bring in like your girl son, your makeup that day, you know what I mean? Oh, I have I have an idea for for the for that whole business. I'm like, okay, a funeral home where they offer like part of their thing if they have a ton of wardrobe options that you can choose from for the open casket, you know, so you can have like all kinds of looks that maybe you didn't have
access to in your regular life. You can designed, you can be very designer. That's really good's amazing. And then you go and like you try on like all the clothes. It's like I'm gonna be a superna dress like me that vibe. Um all right, Anna, are you ready? Um? I am. And I'm not sure if this is really gonna resonate with anyone, but someone else, you know, someone I think touch, even one person you will have done. Yeah, this is an I guess. I don't think so of
your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Self oriented thinking, self referential thinking. You mean to tell me that I'm going to spend my day thinking about what is going to happen to me in the future and thinking about what has happened in the past, and I will just suffer as a result. That my that our brain's default mode of operation is to be not in the present, but either in the future or in the past,
always suffering. You mean to tell me I have to learn this as an adult and then find past positive things to do to engaged in the present moment using my hands so that I'm not wandering off and causing myself suffering, And you mean to tell me that I again have was not taught this until I was older. And only now do I see how much suffering I cause myself to have every day thinking about the future and the past. And so I'm gonna say, I don't
think so, honey, Uh, suff orient of thinking. I am trying so hard to get out of this nasty habit, and I hope that we all find peace in the press. What do you mean that wouldn't resonate. Some people don't care, they're too busy watching. Don't worry. I don't care. I'm talking about the press toward dramas. My god, wow, that was that was wondering. It really is. It's it's something that I like because I'm aware of it now and I catch myself doing it and I know that it is,
like what causes suffering. I'm like, oh, my god, and yet I can't stop thinking about thinking that's very Buddhist thing of like, it's that the suffer the root of suffering is to think about, wow, wow, that what a beautiful what a beautiful note. And also I mean it's sort of it was I don't think so, honey. But Anna's segment was you mean to tell me, you mean to you mean to tell me, honey. I think I think I think you really you take that idea, and
I think I think you make that something. You tell me like it's it's very powerful syntactically. You mean to tell me, Wow, there's it's really beautiful. You mean to tell me. This episode is coming to a close, and I'm finding out about this now. I'm finding about this now an hour and minutes in. Let me tell you something. What I'll tell you. What's roughly twenty five minutes each episode of Losest Bookies, and they're streaming by at least the first two hours, and then and then there's how
many in this season? Six or seven? Six six six action packed half hours which will, sorry but make you laugh if you're out there being like, oh I wanted to show. That was like, good point, mama. Maybe the show is for you, but most primarily you're gonna chuckle, laugh and have a fine time watching these characters get spooky. That was beautiful. Wow, what an endorsement. It's so good. It's so good. I have nothing to add. Are you proud of yourself? Yeah? I'm happy with it. That was
an earnest moment to end the body. I just wanted to hear you guys say it. And we end every episode with a song every time, Mature, Full Happy. I guess if you want to hear the rest of that song, you can listen to in the Zone, the album by Britney Spears, and that song is every Time written by Britney Spears. Bye Bye Bye