"I Dunno, Man..." (w/ Reneé Rapp & Alyah Chanelle Scott)

comes out on Wednesday. You will be a year older and we celebrate you. Thank you, Katrina, Thank you Katrina. But stepping aside from that, I did not think this morning i'd wake up to Twitter dot com with every queer person screaming, sobbing in a state because of this zombie show, The Last of Us, which I had heard. I had to be watching the show. Hold on home, what is it? Go ahead? Set the scene and why

we're crying. It is based off of the seminal video game The Last of Us, which has been described as a citizen Kane of video games, acheating heights of storytelling. It's Rosebud that's on a zombie story because these are not zombies. What would you call those girls? Then running around trying to kill infected Court accepts fungally infected freaks clickers, the fungally challenge. You'll see you saw some clickers at the end of episode two. You're gonna like that at all?

And I won't be watching the show only when there's a queer love story at the center of that Twitter dot com yells. I mean, I absolutely have to watch, but other than that, it's gonna be and I don't think so, honey. I believe they said, did you watch this independent of the first two episodes? I had sort of done the cursory skimming of the first two episodes to know what I needed to know. Our guests are like buzzing, giggling on mute. We're gonna bring them in

a second. We're gonna bring them in a second. But I have to tell you watching this third episode out of the Last of Us, which started in very much a bottle episode fashion, and we love a bottle episode. It's actually recal you number nine. We love the bottle episode. So these two actors, Marie Bartlett and Nick Offerman, gave us sort of a gorgeous gorgeous tale of these two men living in this dystopian society, and it covers many decay up gay away from her. It was getting gay

away from her and what's an iconic reference. Both good for you and I have to say, I've been sobbing all morning. You need to brush up on the Lord. This is truly an important piece of television. It was so beautiful. My confession is that I'm still You begged me to what I was going to save it for the plane, right for the flight back to New York, and I still have twenty minutes left, but the sad thing has already happened. Oh I'm sobbing. I'm a mess, And thank god I had the palate cleanser of the

show that our two guests are. Let's just say on, let's just say they're on this television program renewed for season three, The Sex Lives of College Girls. We love to see some shows out there getting renewed waits. Sometimes they don't have to be our own shows. Sometimes it doesn't even have to be on our own show that gets renewed. To be happy, sometimes you can be in a state of what the fund is happening with the

show that I'm on, you know what I mean. And to know that other girls out there are getting renewed, it's beautiful. This show deserves renewal. Do you know what I'm saying. This show is an iconic show that honestly, like, I hope goes ten seasons because I'm seeing myself in the show. That's what I'm saying. I'm men that you just heard a voice. We met these two girls in Miami, Florida, Rhonda Santis Country of all places, and it was truly Matt, do you agree with us? We were at Miley and

Dollies New Year's party, so fun. You had your fucking Mercy Thomas, your Paris Hilton's, You're There was a lot of star Wars. There was the star wat was through the roof, out of control. But when I saw our guests from across the way, first of all, these two people, I'm like, there are people that I'm like, I'm not going to take a picture with them. I'm not going to take a picture with them. I need them to think that we're cool. You wanted to express being cool.

I want them to think we're cool. I want to potentially be friends with them, even sometime in the near future. I don't want to screw this up. I'm sort of less like that. I'm sort of like ambling over to the bar, being like, we're gonna say hi, and you're sort of like no. This reminds me of the iconic time we saw Meredith Marks at the red carpet of the Fire Island premiere and I left the carpet' gonna say hello to Meredith Marks And I said, bow and get over here, and you said, I'm too scared. I

was too scared. I was too scared to go talk to Meredith. And now you struck up a lifelong friendship with her. Listen, roll out the red carpet for the friends, Jip. You guys hung out at sun Dance. Oh my god, we have to talk about Sunday. Kind of mentioned Sundance. I saw a Meredith Sundance. It's not as exciting as you saw Seth at Sundance. I rallied with Seth Marks at Sundance. Okay, Seth Marks. Can we just say Seth Marks's favorite film? Fire? He said, He laughed, he cried,

he was getting down with it. He said. It was amazing to sort of get to know the culture, and he was screaming and Meredith Marks's boutique in Park City how much he loved Fire Island and I was receptive and I will continue to be receptive. And then his hand flicked. Can I just about your introduction or you're walking up to your name at Miami is like now one of our friend groups, Like, it's our bit. It's our bit because I said to me, and it was so funny, it was hot. It goes like, no, not here,

not right now. You said that about funny. I'm not here, I'm not right now, and and was I wrong? You're you're absolutely no. But but the thing was it had to be right here, right now, and then it was. And it was gorgeous because when we told y'all that a scala was there, we saw you light up because you understood what it meant for a scala to be there. And that's sister, huge night. But we have to introduce formula, okay, because that's it's getting too loose. Our guests are on

the sex slights of college girls. Between them, they share so many credits Jimmy Award Winners reboots with Rachel Bloom period period. Hello, these are stars and they play wealthy girls that are sympathetic and likable. Very hard to pull off and not for nothing. But vocalists, vocalists hear me when I say it, Boca lists, and we're gonna get it. We're gonna get into it a little something like like if you want to harmonize on three, like one to three. Yeah, sorry,

I just wanted to get out. You just had to let everyone know what we're dealing with. Yeah, so if you didn't know, now you know, and you must simply welcome our guests today. Welcome to the arena. These two they showed up. They're giving like what that's how you clap like without making noise. We're feeling amazing today. We are feeling amazing. We're the world to be here. We love you both. We're just so you said you're in bus. Do we like it? We love We're valley girls through

and three. We are real. Don't thinking about us. We love parking. Okay, get at it. I am renne. Okay. So we started Passenger here early title about I'm actually not allowed to drive. Really basically everybody's like reviews, which I think is we get homophobic. But that being said, mommy parks well Valet because Park it's giving Laton. Yeah, it's actually a lot of crossover. People aren't talking about it. Well,

that's what we're here to talk about. That's what we're here to talk about, the things people don't talk about enough. And Whitney being a good driver. It's also giving Whitney. Yeah, it's on brand for sure. The dynamics are all thrown off. At the end of season two, I have to say, I mean we are thrust forward into a show that I mean honestly, and also congrats on the renewal. That's amazing and I honestly the show is a blast to watch. It's so funny. I love like performance, very clear closeness

between you guys, Like it's really really fun. Is it fun to do? It must be. I mean, look at the two of you glowing. We don't well trust first of all threats tell yeah, it's super fun. We also just like get to hang out all day, which is ideal. Um. Yeah, and we we just have a silly goofy time. We really did you hang out in cute outfits? Your costume designer is sorry, that was actually just as harmonizing. Again, that didn't mean anything, No, no, yeah, that's true. Not

much true. Did y'all meet on the show. Yes, this is really special because there is such an energy. I can feel it through the screen. Girls. Don't lose that, don't lose that. Don't lose that in this town. Don't you lose that. We had many bits realizing the all very visual. So I don't know, I don't know. I don't read on the podcast, podcast our visual medium. We've been we say podcast our visual medium. Okay, okay, so they're kind of geting limp wristed, sort of fist up.

Is that queer girl power? I stand with your sister. Someone's calling calling? Is it? Hollywood? Was another role? It was God? It was God God. Yeah, he said, do you need me? God? Is he? God? Is he? They described what what was the first because Matt and I remember the first moment of our friendship when we were like wow, like who is this? Is there an indelible memory for you to describe it? Wait? Two words? Okay,

one to three? Hotel? I was gonna say, Okay, so there was a residence in, and the residence in is a huge part of culture. I mean, we have all stayed there. So when you say residents in, everyone listening knows that exactly. We can see it, we can feel, we can almost taste it. So what's happening? Fill in the scene. The scene is he's like, Hey, do you want to come over? Do you want to hang out?

And mind you, I'm a fan, right, I'm a Broadway girl, throw and through, So I'm like, okay, great, let's do it out. Not that I know that when I was coming over to her hotel room, it was going to be her crying for three hours and telling me every traumatic thing that's ever happened to her. And that was that was that. Yeah, it really was because also like we were so we were in this hotel and this was December and we're actually technically like we're breaking by

seeing each other. And I was so fucking scared to be here. We both moved to l A for the show. It was just like anxiety. So it was like a new experience because you guys are it's like the first big show for you guys, you know what I mean, Like you're putting it out there in a major way and like it was going to be a breakthrough and you guys knew it because it's Mindy Kaling. It's like big budget tbh, you know what I mean. There's a lot going on at HBO Max like etcetera. So that's

like all happening. Yeah, and then there was also the out of respect of like COVID, and those were like getting canceled up in right SHOs, we're not happening, and so we fully believe that we weren't actually even going to make a show until we showed up, you know, on day one, and they were putting us in costumes work. Okay, I guess it is happening. Um, So there are a lot of variables there. Yeah. Sure, the costumes what you love?

Obsessed with them? Jesus, Oh my god. If I could knit anything, it would be a two we'd set girl. I couldn't ye say it again but away though in a way though, if you want to say it again, please do but but but I would say that in a way. Is this sort of a college experience for you guys? I mean this is Rene's like full college experience. This is like, yeah, I mean educated now. I said this to you in Miami. But Joel can Booster, Brandon, Scott Jones and I were at the Jimmy Awards that

Renee was at really was I'm sorry. Yeah, winner, it does. It does kind of make you like an instant like celebrity in the world of like Broadway theater. Though, wouldn't you say it is so wild? It's a cult. I've said it before. I'll say it again. It's a cult. It's a cult. But do you draw a straight line from Okay, so here you are this North Carolinian slay as slay first of all, a tar heel through and through, a tar heel through and through you. Jimmy it up.

You blank your mean girls, you blank, there's COVID, you blank your on sex lives you meet Aliah. Yeah, that's amazing. I believe in the unit birds. I believe in the universe, and I think that somewhere along the lines, two people were born, right, one of those people was born and and the other one of those people was born in the year two thousand, So you were two thousand and you were Okay, So basically we're talking to people that are the same age as Titanic, and like, what's a

two thousand film? It's that sort of Titanic crouching tiger meeting that we all have that Yeah, what do you mean what does that mean? I think it just really sinks in to the soul for me. Do you want to explain though? So what year is which that you're talking about? This is gen z of it all. I'm I'm cussed, I'm not, but you're but you're getting Z. You ask because I thought I was in the Some people were like, no, you're not. You're giving millennial and I was like, what bad? But I don't know. No,

you're you're Z. But you're also a grandmother. Becca has corrected us and said, I feel that you're so gen Z. You just are like that's why, grandma. Yeah. But the way Leah was talking to Doug was very gen Z, being like, look, we don't have a microphone, we don't have headphones like this is and it was. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen. Take me, that's actually true. No I didn't read it that way, No, no, no, no, it was inspiring. I'm awestrack. Oh thanks, I can teach you.

Because Bowen and I asked millennials are big apologizers were like, sorry, sorry, sorry, honest I was before I met Renee. Renee will walk into anything and look at like the head exact of HB. And be like, hey, bitch, what's up? And I'm like, oh, dear, I understand or should just be like, oh dad, what's going on? Yeah? It will serve you well, It will

serve you very well. Fun. It's fun, especially because like I just like, I don't know, man, I think like I don't know even that even that, you know what I mean, even that what is that energy? And I could never and Bowen could never Bowen and I could never have I don't know man energy about someone in a position of power, I don't know man energy is a front runner for title of up at this point. Yeah, here's the thing. Okay, if you like walk up to like I don't know who is daddy of HBO, right,

but like whoever is daddy HBO? Like okay, you got there and we can get here. Hey, girl, like playing field, be realistic. What did you do this morning? You woke up just the same as me. You woke up Stobs to an episode of zombie television that he actually put on the air. By the way, this is energy synergy. Yeah, this is network's energy and we love it. So you meet basically trauma bonding in a hotel room. Yeah, did you sort of speak the language that Renee was speaking

when she was sobbing. Were you ready to receive that? Are you sort of open to that? Astrologically? What's happening here? Oh? Interesting? Yeah? Well I'm a cancer. I'm Capricorn. Yeah, so capricorn. You're right? Um, And I am often the like therapist friends like, I'm often and I encourage it. Honestly, I do, really do. I do dig sometimes, but I'm the friend that's like to tell me, what are you actually happy? Yeah, and then we'll go in, Oh my god, but you take

care of you? Right? Well, who's taking care of you? I have started going to pottery and that has been my new way of taking care of myself. Although my friends would disagree that that's not an actual thing. No, I agree, I disagree, Yeah, I think it is an actual thing. Macky on the other hand, literally, our friend Mackey, he was also on College Girls, literally went up to Alia talking about pottery and he was like, so, what

are you running from? Even see friends that you've been in the pottery studio a lot, do you think you're running from something? Me? But you're correct, he was right, He was right. No, No, he's not and he's not a good form of therapy. Also, I think you take care of yourself super well. Thanks, I actually really do. It's productive and creative. You're making something. Yeah, yeah, it's great. And I can listen to law school treoths as well.

I do pottery stop it it's my favorite stop. That I would be in the pottery like laughing to myself and I realized, I'm like, I look like I'm I'm cracking up at the wheel and like at the wheel we are talking to the drug. Right, Well that's fucking huge. Okay, So you meet because of the show. It's an instant

fast friendship because of a trauma. Well, I feel like Layton's story in terms of her coming out journey is like very death the way both of you were able to perform that aspect of that time in your life where someone's figuring out in identity and then another person is present as a friend, like light touch but very powerful. And then for Whitney, it's like fuck this girl like got fully fucking like preyed upon or just taken advantage

of by this like fun up dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. The thing that I like about it is that, like I

genuinely feel like we literally just show up. That's it. Um, we literally just show them up and just like like take things from like our friendship that could like kind of tie into what we're doing, and just like put right, like our storyline is kind of tied into our lives, which I don't know if that's like intentional of the writers being like oh I heard when they say that she but like literally like that feels like when we'll show up and get the table draft and be like, oh,

this is triggering Hunter, but in the best way, and in a way that feels like we have enough space from the trauma to like reenact it in a way that feels you know what I mean, that feels like it's a light touch enough, but also that we have a friend there. So like if there's ever a day we're like, we're having a tough time, which is very rare because we're in a comedy. It's like not we're not saving lives, um, But if there's ever a day

we're like, that was a lot, girl. I just like look at a and we're you know, we're both there. I have tough days often it has nothing to do with the writing, but I have tough days and then there yeah, that's fair. The way that everyone supports each other as a unit, like that feels like my unit, or it feels like and the conflicts are also like I'm never like, oh, that friendship is doomed. I'm like, no, you know what, like this is working as a unit

and they're having a moment. But it did get me to think about like my own college experience and like I don't think I have any friends from freshman year, but do you have any friends from freshman year? Still? Um, like I said, thirty two year old, I have friends from like doing comedy obviously, but they were they were upper classmen. No one from freshman year. No one really, no one from freshman year. But wait yeah, yah is

completely like the opposite. Yeah really Yes, I went to Michigan for musical theater, so that's just like that there, yes, there, let's just drop that in the ether. Yeah. So there was only twenty of us in the class in Michigan at the time. Where I entered was still very like an episode of Glee, Like you have the upper classman, you have the juniors, like every class has a role, and when you are freshman, you are nothing, you know

what I mean? So we all kind of like looking to each other like, you know, should we be here, Like what's going on? Um? And then we became sophomorees together, and then we became you know what I mean, so like we kind of enmed up the ranks of the Yeah, that's like a totally different experience, experience, very specific and unique. So I have a lot of friends for my freshman year. So like one of our best friends I grew up

with doing theater. Caroline's weird, a weird sort of thing that happened, which act how we were technically introduced to each other. Yes, okay, let's I went to college with a friend of mine who is now my producing partner. His name is Thomas. We were classmates and then very quickly he was like, oh, I'm not gonna be an actor. I'm gonna be a producer. And I was like what

is that? Um? And went through the whole thing together and then graduated and I booked college girls and enabled to college girls, and weirdly he was like, oh hey, he told Renee was like, Okay, my one of my classmate's gonna be in your show. You're gonna love her. And then he was up staying at my house in l A while we were working on the show, and I was like, Oh, Renee's gonna come over for dinner. And I was like, oh, my friend Thomas is here. She was like Thomas loud and I was like yeah.

And then the entire night they just like chatted about high school like North Carolina and oh my gotten, which, to be clear, let's talk about a cult that's I've never been with more ship in my life than I was in the Charlotte theater scene speaking out about it and speaking out about it now because justice, O, God, it's crazy. Is that the Tommy two Awards or No,

that's not, That's Houston. I guess I have questions about, like, so when you refer to it as this like high octane, intense thing like and the where you have put through a lot, like I was always wondering, like how a high school like funnels someone even into the Jimmy Awards. Is that because it starts as a really intense atmosphere like and those are like the people that we're seeing at the Jimmy Awards who have been through like a theater boot camp. In a way, I think it's all

over the place. The reason that Charlotte was so intense for me. Specifically was the mother's literally there there were yeah, no, and let's let's get into it. Okay, because let's get into it. I was I was a you know, I was a junior in high school and we were doing this like musical and I had a friend come to me and say that there were these three girls moms who had a running group chat talking shit about me coming to this school and being in the show. So

I was like, Okay, it's on, let's go. So basically what happened was I transferred to this musical theater high school because I knew a Broadway actor and an amazing fucking being. Eva Nobles had gone Star Star Star, He had gone to this high school, and so I wanted to do the same thing because I didn't want to go to college and I wanted to live in New York and do me. So then the Jimmy's became a thing. But yeah, theater's crazy. Yeah the moms, though, did moms

motivate anything? Is that how they fit into this? Like I fucking sometimes moms can be the worst. I wish you could see my face right now because I'm snarling on the podcast. I wish you could see my um. I don't know. Can we all just like take a moment, because I know we all want to get this out. We've all had tough mornings. We need to snarl, and we all just let's just take three seconds to just snow already go. That did something for me. I want

that felt good? Right? Feel better? My pulse is racing and I don't know what I've heard Kimberly A Kimbell better. Oh my god, the way it's been theater on theater. We had Bonnie Milligan on last week. We have y'all too now. They love her, incredible theater moms. I don't know if it's that they motivated me. I think it's that I was like, oh my god, not these like forty plus year old women being mad at a teenager. Okay, bitch, fine,

come on. Because that's also when you get the idea that just because someone is an adult and should know better, they don't. And it's like that in the industry. It's like that amongst people, and it's it's actually good and formative. A smart team can look around and be like, oh, I had that moment in high school. I'm sure that we all have people readers listening. Are all like the first time you realized that an adult was a funk

up and you in front of a train. That's a big moment because, let me tell you, age doesn't mean you're mature. Times you end up being the kid. We're gonna at least some real trauma right now. So he's going to ran it back in. We're pulling it out. This is what both of you are giving right now. I don't know, man, it's I don't know, man. Oh yeah, it's so aspirational. I hear like, oh my god, who is h's at at a girl? How are you coming

to the stage? I don't know, man. Wait, Okay, So as we sort of transport back in time, I feel it's appropriate to ask the question. Yes, it's appropriate. Are we calling you yahya? Is not just a you guys. It is the thing that Renee has made a thing. Yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about it, to be perfectly frank, Okay, So thank you for giving me a

platform I've never been asked. There is no bigger play there there was no consent, and then there was never consent to use yaya, no send me to be named Telly Tubby, incredible friend and you and your identity has changed and the shifted. Wait, Renee, are you the nickname friend, because that's how I am with this one. Renee's the mad alias Bowen. Yeah, it's a heavy burden, but just so you know, it's joyful life. Rene my back, it's like, oh my god, Like you know, sometimes I like say

nick names from other people though you do? Yeah, yeah, I actually stole you stole that one, did, Yeah, from my best friend from from the Sisterhood. That's a real millennial joke. Yeah, that's the millennial joke now, and don't worry about it anyway, don't worry. I loved it, Sisterhood. I love the joke. I love the reference. I loved And now there's multiple ones though, can I bring up the other one? What's the other one? Yes? Oh yeah,

there's a little yet, yeh. I say, y'all, when you love someone, you can call them anything that's not like me, you know what I mean? When you love some one like both Bowen will be bobis bobiseet. Sometimes he'll just be another name like Cheryl or Lauren, and then sometimes he'll be Ritaina, Trina. That's just my mom's name of Regina. Something I like for about when is Collette. I love

to reard to bonas Collette's. Yeah, and so there's just many different things you can call someone that you love. We have a friend named Leanne who's my best one from college, who we referred to as Vivian just because you know, my good But when when we wake up in the morning, I like some it depends on how good we're feeling. Like. I'll usually like hit Leah, I'll be like, good morning, my little muffin pussy princess. How

I'm like, let let's start go baby clean? So much? Yes, yes, it truly communicates so many ideas, like what if Matt text me and goes hi Grisha, I'm like, I know what mood he is, g r e C I a Grisa and I don't know that, but I know that. Yeah, well you know, let's I want to like really like comfiently for a second. You do know that, babe, I know that I don't know that. Oh yeah, what was the and this is this is a big moment. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?

It is your time to answer the question. Oh my gosh, Okay, there were many things I'm trying to down. I I really have thought about this a lot. Okay, there's two things. The first thing, you know me. The first is extreme makeover home edition. Move that bus. People lives were changed because people don't say that, and that's a real culture. That's really what was that again? When that bus moved, people with lives were changed. I completely agree, could not

agree more. My life has changed when that bus moved every single time, every time, and now that's how I see the world. I'm like, oh, there's a problem. Just move that bus. Yeah, just move that bus. Well, if you do the work, you can move the bus. But if you haven't done the work and you move the bus, it's going to be the same image, the same old shabby house. It takes a community, it takes a community coming together, right. So that's the first thing that person

that can actually I'm sick. The second would be, um, there's a mode that I was gifted when I was ten and it was beyond says uh. The Beyonce Experience live her performance on her birthday at what was formerly known as a Staple Center in two thousand and seven. That is like a two hour long, just full pro shot of her concert. That's about seven costume changes in

there's a dream Girls section. Jay Z comes out, Michelle and Kelly come out, like it just when I tell you, ten year old me watched that on a loop maybe once a week, impossitive. I remember this one because this was this was when dream Girls was like just the year before, and it was like a moment and it was like, I remember she was referring to referring to it at the time as the role of her career. Yes, and he turned twenty six. Can you think about that? And that just that made me who I am? I

think that's crazy? Yeah, I mean, that's that. The thing about that era is that when it was truly leveling up and we did not know how many times it would, but that was like we've been calling her like the greatest entertainer that's alive since even before that, like like two six, it really started and then it was like

gets disrespected, disrespected? It does? It does The new discography like kind of makes people think that the day is not number one and they will always one, which is they forget about ringing the alarm, they forget they forget about freakum dress. They forget, they forget. Get me body, Get me body body. Yeah, the extended version also the one on on the live recorded like two thousand and one year was that eleven? I think, Okay, I'm from Houston.

Beyonce is like my god, so I don't imagine that's my thing. And I was in Dubai, but I won't go into that. I won't speak on that for the record. I was in Dubai. You you were in Dubai for the performance I was, baby, you were in concert? Was there? But you can you can't talk about it? No, I mean it's controversy. What do you mean to talk about it because of the controversial Okay, here's the deal here. Of course, I thought we were going to mention all

on lost Coach. I guess not. I guess even gets afraid. I guess. I guess you will never walk up to HBO exact and say I don't know man, because you couldn't even walk up too. I could do it. I could. We'd be here all day, baby, strip away that come on. Here's the deal, the no phones rule. I have a theory about it, Okay. My theory is that there was an intentional. What they gave you to put your phone in was a zipper pouch, like a pencil pouch that

you would use in middle school. Right. There was no lock. There was no yonder, no blue, no nothing. It was a ziplock bag that said, hey, put your phone in there for the show. Of course you're not going to keep your it was it was it was to give people talk. No, no, it was a fabric. It was either the hotel was like leak it girl at a press for us, or yourself was like this will be good for because I'm not doing any renaissance babe, like build up the hype for the tour. Both are so true.

It was when you will not be silenced. No, I'm really glad that you're taking this opportunity. And that's all I say about I didn't know there. I did not know that. Yeah, there was. They had like a letter in your rooms that said, like for tonight's VIP performance, like please be your phone's way, and then on the night you're sitting in like a restaurant dud. I was the craziest experience in my life and I'll never forget. It was just weird. Go put at a table at

dinner with Tassia the bachelorette for her mother. Like they just paired us with two random people and it happened to be Tasia and her mother. So imagine imagine being me in center myself really quick. No, imagine the white bisexual speak. I was, so, I'm in Europe and I'm getting like real time updates from Leia and like every now and again, like I would get updates, and I was like, I wonder if I should call someone, like if this is a call for help. But I knew

things were okay. When I got a video of Aliah and Taitia, I was like, oh, yeah, anything I could have ever met. It was so unbelievably fancy for no reason. Like you're sitting at dinner, it's me, Thomas, Tashia and her mother. A man walks up and he's like, I will escort you to the performance now, and we're like, okay, follow us. We follow this man through a quarter down a hall. We're outside, we're inside, we're in an elevator, we're up some stairs, like we don't know where we're going.

They hand us these like blue or pink pins that we put on our lapels, and then a little bag and they say put your phones away now, and they walk us over and we're just sitting there. There's a full stage obviously the phones have come out of the pouch, like we're not right, but I have to make it to the show my life Wow. And it was. It was a great performance. It was incredible, and I personally am such a fan that there was no renaissance, like I want to see renaissance when I see Yeah, I agree,

agree saying I care, I want to hear. I want to hear thank you. I want to thank you. And she's not gonna sing like a queer ass motherfucking album in du bob, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, she knew, she knew. And there's something about just seeing that woman live truly, you are fucking floating above yourself the entire damn time. How many times have you seen her? Like? What was this in the grand scheme of like Beyonce Live for You? This was for I'm refused in girls

like her album? Yeah no, no, no, Like how many times I've seen that? I know, I know, but I'm saying the same number as her album Also A second to be Day for me? Actually before from it's Beyonce self titled for and then I do. I am a Lemonade fan like, but it gets hard because the thing is like I love b Day, but does it does exist to the bottom for me, not because any disrespect to be there, but because our other work is so fucking good. Wow, that's that's that's interesting. There's not a

disrespectful word. And what I said, you look for it with the biggest magnifying glass and America disrespecting. No, I didn't. Okay, before we ask Garna the question, congrats on this tour. How has it been? These shows look incredible and of course because the songs are stunning, Oh my god, it's

been so much fun. I kind of always have imagined like what like live shows and performances in my body of work would look like, but um, actually doing it is a completely different fucking beast because A I like overheat like really often, and I wasn't really thinking about that. It was like a fashion over comfort like sort of tour for me. A lot of trench coats, a lot of sweater. Yeah, and like there was a sweater in Boston.

I know this isn't interact with the question, but like, this is like a specific it's giving having been styled yes, and the sweater in Boston actually blinded me and then I started choking on it because it was it was shedding and it was shedding, and I actually I was like if I pass out right now, that I kind of a moment, and so I kept going because I would have been concerned dead on the stage. Didn't be dead?

How is she like own iconic post And this was my moment, Like I was like, I have to pass out. So I was like, let me keep going. But I also has a live standing witnessing this happened. Yeah, I was concerned. No, well, and then so I brought a Leah up on stage with me because you know, at the point, I'm like how much more can I go? Right? And also would it be even cuntier if like I pass out on stage and you witness my best friend maybe watch me like potentially lose my life like you

would have cried upon? No, it was upon and a ploy. I do agree that I do agree that if I ever start to die, bow and should be there because they can get it on tape and that can go the other way. But it also would have been iconic. Renee how do you like lost your life there on stage and there's a moment of Aliyah sort of having intense grief and then she goes over to the mic and just goes, don't tell mamma, and to be clear, yeah, starts acoustic and everyone's sort of like, oh my god.

Wait yeah, but also to because I also would have left on the state like I would I would do. It's given the last of us, Like it's like I want to be there, you know, like put me in a little coma. Oh my god. So anyway, you're slaying the tour. The EP is fucking great. I mean Colorado is, like I think, maybe my favorite. But that in Colorado Bone came out from my show that I was doing in Colorado and we were spending Colorado. We really were. But what was the culture that made you were? N

raps aid culture was for you. I attribute so much of my personality, my empathy, my lack thereof my cunt, my obsessive everything is about me nature to this specifically as a kid. Two moments for me, they're both going to be housewives, franchise moment love and go off before you go there, No, thank you again for giving me the space, permission to go off the first big moment because I, as a kid with anger issues, used to throw a lot of ship and really, yeah, was everybody sure? Um?

Did anybody fight me back? Yeah? They did, Yeah they did. So never forget where I was or how I felt when Teresa Judy cha table, Yeah that was that was the conversation in the rap household, the whole family talking about it, the whole family, because it was like it was a family there, like such a big moment because I was like internally like young Renee is like wow, that must have been such a relief, like unbridled physicalization

of your anger. Ala taught me unbridled and bridle. I love when I hear it, no bridle, no zero briden. And then the other one is madam okay keny more and it's the twirl, It's the gone with the wind facil It's always going to sit with me like that, because again, these I understand, these are both like fighting moments. I don't know what that is saying about me. I don't know what it's not saying. I think it's more like what's between the lines here. People were taking their space.

They were and hello, I was throwing things. Okay, she said she was gone with the wind fibulars, and I was like, you're so like ridiculous and also like really anti what you're saying. Yet perfect and years later still I think maybe the bar setter for maybe even what it means to be a housewife. I would say Keny

Moore isn't top ten. I agree, she really has sucking And I was, I wasn't like a super big like Kenya person in the beginning because very specific, like I'm like an o G person like when new people come in and I'm like, yeah, yeah, she really ate speaking of new people. And you're going we briefly touched on the watch What Happens Live of it All where you were sitting next to Mia fucking Thornton herself had to give you your problem because and I actually I was.

I was on it like two weeks after you with Candy, and I literally I meant to say on the show, shout out to Renee rap who deserves an Emmy for Best Guests in a Drama for her performance pretending that she was down with me a Thornton's antics. Thank you so much, because let me motherfucking tell you Okay, get this is what I'm saying. This is your Dubai moment,

this is your The NBA has been removed. Girl. Hi, so girl, I literally like when we were talking about doing Housewives, that was like doing housewives, doing Watch what Happens Life? Right, that was like my my dream the whole life, Like there's for me. There's like a ego to it, and the w is watch what it's and so it's a go I'm sorry, type back out, I misspoke, You're right. I really wanted to do it so bad and they were like at first it was supposed to be canvas Matt, and I was like, oh no, I

swear to god. I was like, well that's my bitch, like done. Like also like hello, the music industry on her shoulders, let's be really drive back. So the box of the year, the record of the year. Hello, And so I was like, okay, well, what's gonna be me? And can't it is amazing? And then there was like a change, there was a shift, a shift in the fucking set well and then all of us like, oh, well who is it and they're like it's me a thor now like radio silence, radio science. I think I

forbade him said. I was like, there's no fun, but because like I again, I'm very actually didn't say that yet, but I'll bring it up again. I feel like I'm very judgmental, especially the housewives, right, well that's kind of part and Parcel I didn't die and breathe for these women, and I don't fucking like her on the show, to be clear, And so the whole night, I'm like, what

am I about to say? Because although I don't want to disrespect you, like in a working environment, like I'm sure, yeah I am, so I ask anybody one thing they'll tell you about me is I'm rational. And we found that out really when you were like we show up, that's it. That's it there. And also this is something that I said that actually was so true. And this was like my recurring thing throughout the night, like this is all I said in different fonts. I was like,

I love your kids. Yeah, yeah, so cute, and you know what, not you didn't tell a lie. And I will say the one thing and I even said that I think bow When I was texting, I was like, Renee Wrap is sort of slaying at sort of letting us think maybe she's down with me because but I knew intrinsically you can't be because I didn't. You didn't

seem to me like a crazy person. You don't know that. Also, there's like there's like a part on the show where like I was really trying to like be like chill or whatever, and it doesn't cut to my face in this moment. But she said on the show she basically started like body shaming Robin, and I got I got piste off. She said something about like she was like, well, you know, Robin is built like Dada, And I was like, remember she said this, like you just became scum of

the earth to me, bitch, she's all became. She's done. Beniah, do you agree with this? Listen? I like PiZZ personally, so not me. Not me. This also makes me the renee because I was on there all week after being like I was burning Robin's family fun party down, the family fun party. Yeah, Like I understand you. It was just so mean. I was like, that's just like, ah, that was sucked up. It was probably sucked up in

my presence. I was like yeah. I was like yeah, and you know what, they probably they probably knew they were looking in the control and when they were like, oh that pisted Renee off, don't cut to Renee also like it also like t like it would have been funnier if you catch me, I think, but absolutely looking for comedy. He's got the reactions. These are all great answers from both of you. I feel like there is an interesting moment with these housewives, moments being sort of

anger centered. Can I ask what your relationship with anger is now? Question? So I it's important because because I'll go, I'll go. I was kind of I have like some anger set for sure. There are shouting matches with the family that would make your head spinet all three of you. I get that, like truly, like I kind of don't recognize myself and I get and Matt's seen me and like you know, the Veneer crack, but like it's really taken a lot of work to like fully move past.

I think I am mostly like beyond it. I don't know. I can't like fully say that for myself, but I'm curious about people who identify as having been angry maybe in the past, and like how they have maybe progressed from that if they want, if they would, like I'm in the thick of it. I think so like my choice, that's that's great, that's great. But yes, um, it's shifted

from the things that I get angry about. Right like when I was a kid, I really really really frustrated, and I like struggling a lot mentally, right and so like, I have different areas of where my anger goes now. My anger used to come like internally and then go externally. Now I get an. This is also why Leah and I are so good together. The story of it all

is going to be one of two things. One if you disrespect someone I love, or you disrespect me, or you think that you have any sort of agency over my friend space or my space, you will you will fucking hear about it. I don't care what space I'm in. I don't care. Be it professional, be it familial, I don't. I do not care. I love it, I love I don't like. I don't like the sort of like, oh, let's like keep it you know kosher here. Nope, that's

not working for me. So if that's the one way, and Aliyah usually is, even if it's like, even if it's something that has happened like to you or to like one of our friends and like Elijah's like okay, okay, like mother will send to me and bring me back down. Now the b side of this, Elean, I like to go out. We need to go out. Okay, when a Lee and I go out, we do fight anyone I'm having I'm talking to range, right, what fights, Let's go to the range. Okay. There was an old woman in

oh she had a coming. She was in Chicago style, she had a coming. Yeah, she was old Chicago. This just happened to me. A Kimberly, a Kimbo Kimlia Kimbo. The woman in front of me turned around. Me and my friend Patrick were laughing because it was a funny, fucking comedy musical comedy show. God for fucking bib and she turns around and scolds us, and I honestly had to like. It was a moment where I was like, look, I understand there's like the respect your elders of it all,

but like, this is not tenable. This is not going to be tenable in the world. I'm very publicly I don't I don't respect your elders in me, neither any sort of things surrounding me. You're done, So it ranges from them. It's the moms. It's the moms. It's the moms. That's what it is. Just became mother in that moment with that therapy. Well was so mother now there, I was sorry. I did not mean to cut you off because these mothers didn't have it like you have it, Bowen.

No one's ever made that connection until right now. So what the fuck? It's because Bowen is one of the smartest women in America. That's so true. What I do, Like Jackson Jordan herself, where are we going? Tonight's good series? I couldn't remember. You said, what was it? Trina Truce? Oh I love shar Truce, could be anything. Sharna cardamomu Sharna. Wait, so the range is okay? There was an old woman. Yeahah, she was just honestly, she just yeah, she was just right.

And just the girls at the club, you know what I mean, like, oh my god, the girls at the club that sometimes I don't have the patience that man in Taco Bell in New York. Oh right, that's the club. Now, okay, you're not talking about Canty. Another one in New York, the one where you can get a cocky is Marisol would say sure, a cocky, you know, like a cocktail. What do you guys watch? You guys need to watch with Miami. I don't want to talk to you guys. I'm sorry. I don't think I can say I don't

like that cocky. You can't, my god, in my cock era, if you're buying, you say cock you're not by No, you're not by I actually by people don't say cop You're so right, Thank you for bringing that up. I want to come out right now. I want to come out publicly. I want to come out as straight straight no because you stay cough. Oh, I have a good thing. They're going right, I know, I know. Back, I'm sorry.

I think it's just going to be that with zero cock please, so that work straight with no car okay, okay, wait, so you two like to go out, So then to bring this full circle, you throw hands for each other. You throw hands for each other, which I respect. I would fight for Matt. I literally like, there's some guys in bones life who if they ever if they ever act away, they've acted in the past, They're going to see Long Island pop all the way out. And when I say Long Island pop all the way out, I

mean real male me. And then when it's about to get physical, eyeback off. But you're just like immediately physical. Oh my god, Nicky, I forgot about nick Well you have time, it'll it'll come, Your chance will come. That's gonna be her. I don't think so. Oh ship some girl named went down in Miami tell us. Yeah, this was not even We weren't out. We weren't We were getting a car. We were getting a rental car. Mind you at the Herb. Yeah, we were at the Herb. Yeah.

I want to Nicky. Nikki, if you're listening there, fucking tune in. We're still not it. And I hope you had a happy fucking New Year. So Nikki at the Miami hurts something. One thing we've done on this podcast many times is named people and their place of work. Yeah, we have gotten for it. So just so Nikki at the Miami hurts, how could she improve? No, they deserve this. Well, there was an altercation that went on. There were quite a few applications and we took different approaches. So different

here is our tactic as active. Okay, when one tactic doesn't work, you choose another. Yeah, and you've got to keep it going. So Nikki had a problem with the car. We decided to drive often. She said, you can't take that one. We said why, and she didn't really have a reason. She had no real reason. She was just like, um, that's not one that you can take. I said, that's not gonna work for me. Girl. We're already in the car, we're already pull we're trying to pull out. We're at

the gate. You know, all she've got to do is press the button, lift the lever, and we're on our merry way right. Yeah, she decides to halt traffic. There's a line building up behind us. She said, I gotta call my supervisor. You can't take the car. We decide in that moment, literally with our friends, we decide, let's employ every every pull every trick out of the bag. Because also, I feel like most times, like I go

from zero to tend so quickly. And I was like, I'm trying to be like a bit mature, like I'm on a trip with my friends right now. Like I was like, let me like until y'all are ready for me to go, And that was the words that was used. Renee was in the back seat. I was in the front seat. Our friend Thomas was He's so he was negotiating right like he was giving her, well, you know, I have the receipt right here, like I've already paid for the car. Just he was giving that. I decide

my attact is gonna be tears here. I'm gonna give you cry. I'm gonna give you like this, mind you. This is going on like fifteen minutes, and you know it's like a long time. She's directed traffic around us because she wants us to get out of this car. All of our luggage is in the car. We are in the car. So I decide, I'm gonna give you so stressed out, like I just can't handle conflicts like whatever, Renee in the backseat goes, just let me know when you'll want me to go, and I'll go. That's all

that was said. And I look at her as nicky As walked off to get her manager, and I was like, all right, Renee go in that moment. Renee, she's impulsive, but she's smart. She throws a hood over her head. She said, I'm incognita. I was like, I was like, Jama will not get me here, No, not today, not in Miami. At the hurts Nonna like Renee wrappit the hurts absolutely acting violence a non plays a non place, and it was just that Renee hops out of the car and I think with the breeze, like pops out

of the car. Within three seconds. All I remember was Nicky saying, whoa, why are you pulling up on me? And Renee said, I'm gonna pull him up on you, bitch, and then my vision went black. I immediately was in crisis mode. I thought, sure and this would be thrown Nicky did. And then we got out. So this is what happened. I said, why are you in their? Babe outside going okay, you want to be in there? It got really cut out of the park, was everything paperwork wise,

and we got the car. We got the car, and then we went to Disney World. Oh my god, happy ending, a literal happy ending at the happiest place on earth. What was the favorite ride at Disney World of the Galaxy? Bitch the way I just did it? Oh my god, Oh my god. The Guardians. It used to be Avatar, but she's she's not hitting the way she used to. It's because now the Guardians, Cosmic Rewind is there, and so how can you go do that and then go to Avatar and like it hit the same it well

it will hit. So Bowen has not been down to go to Epcot to go do the Guardians of the Galaxy cosmic rewine, but we have had a very sort of cathartic experience on a metric ton of edibles on Avatar Flight of Passive. Me and it's ober okay. When I first went, it's like right when they had first opened it. Me and my friend Dylany, who you need to meet, and we'll love to wake up at the aspract John wait outside the gate, take like two full like ten milli grand edibles and wait in the line.

At this point we were just like girls waiting in lines, you know, like we used to do um and we're in that line for like three hours. High as hell. I've never been under my life, Right was everything? Did you cry? I have a video off after and our

manager Olivia cried. It was so pretty that moment when you sit in the cave, think about that an Avatar, an Avatar flight of passage, you get in the cave, there's a moment where you pull up into the cave and you sort of sit in the cave, and there's just a moment where you're on a Disney ride that's supposed to do things, but you're just really, quite frankly, just sitting in the cave. But you pulled up in the cave and then you see Renee rapid Hood going,

I'm not pulling up on your bitch. It was the height of the ride that was missing, screaming Nicky in the cave, Nicky oh Man, Nicky's not Nikki? Why though, I need to understand why why did you have to become a villain on Lost Culture? It's worse than what you have? What do you have to say? What do you have to say? Leah, people hurt people? And Nikki she was having a bad day and she projected I have empathy now in space. I actually was likely projecting something.

I'm gonna say, this has been a long January. We've really definitely been jerked out of There's been a lot going on, and when it comes to venting, frustrations actually come to the right place because we have a segment for that and we have arrived at the time where it's time to expel demons in one minute fashion. Bow, I don't think so, honey, how would you describe it? I can't do a better job than you just said.

It is a true exorcism. Your head is spinning, you are croaking in a vocal fry, calling your mother the worst things you can possibly call someone, while priest is, you know, screaming, Well you're really you're going with the exorcist thing. Well I heard you say expelled demons, and I was like, yes, Linda Blair were like, Linda Fag, all right, so let's listen. That's boone, Linda Fag. I have something. I have something. This is Matt Rogers's I don't think so, honey. His time starts it now, I

don't think so, honey. How the funk am I supposed to eat mushrooms now after watching The Last of Us? Because everyone's head becomes a fucking mushroom. And let me tell you something, as someone who enjoys us mushroom with a steak dinner, I love mushrooms. And now every time I'm trying to eat a mushroom of the food varietal, not consuming of the drug virietal, I'll be looking down on my plate and I'll be seeing lush gushi zombie villains from the Last of us also the last of

us in general. I don't think so, honey, that now to be part of the not only cultural conversation, I have to watch this zombie show that is scary, but now to be part of queer discussion and discourse, I have to watch this. I'm scared. I don't think so, honey. Me ever, not being scared of a TV show lives of college girls, I'm doing jump scares, honey. Sometimes one of these guys will come out, one of these college kids with the body of a thirty two year old

man in West Hollywood, and I'll be squooked. She's sucking her neighbor. And the one I might excuse me that is a Shawn Cordy poine store, not anyone at this Ivy League college. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. The theatus are all in West Hollywood, They're all living in Hollywood each other. They look like Marvel superheroes, and you know they're all from we he They all be fucking each other and I want to see that

show too. Also, yeah, you rose awareness for something very specific there that all all the men at this college look like they're fifty. The important when you're doing a high school or college show. I think too is it's like in order for everyone to like, really, fuck you got a cast thirty two year olds or else what. This is one of the most sexless times in media. And thank god for college girls for being out there

showing fucking It's as horny as I was. I used to have to leave class to go jack off when I was in college. When I was a freshman in college, i'd be in physical pain. Not any more, honey, now that kids are yanking it in lectures in front of the teacher ranking crank what your friend? Oh, there's whispering each other's ears it mommy, okay, okay, god, oh my god. And every best friendship is one that's PR and and they say, can we release this information? I think you're

a PR. It's just totally fine. I also like I look up to these sort of of people like it's like a it's like an idolizing thing. Our friends um to the Eiffel Tower under the everybody that all the time like they're secret night with me. Yeah, Like that's kind of the biggest torus destinations in the world. People come from far and wide to simply look at that it's a fun right underneath it is an I d G A F energy that is really aspirational. I don't know, man, yeah,

I don't know. Man. Let me guess they're hot. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Anyway, I can't really eat mushrooms anymore. Um, so that's why I don't think, so honey, Bowen, do you have sort of one? I have one. I wonder if it will resonate. It might just be specific to me. See, I don't want to hear that insecurity, And the next time that comes up, I want you to think, like, why why do I have to voice that? You know

what I mean? Because it's yeah, yeah, this is I don't think, so honey, and his time starts now, I don't think so honey reply ying with the heart eyes emoji and nothing else. What does it mean anymore? It's lost it's meaning. If I'm getting a heart eye emoji response to my stories, I can't tell if you're into it, if you're into me, if you're trying to fuck, if you're just being nice. It means nothing anymore. The meaning has collapsed. I don't know what's being communicated anymore. When

it's if these are the modern hieroglyphs. Then this one is fucking Anubis, okay, because I'm going, who's that? I don't know her. I don't know that one. That's That's how I'm feeling about the heart eyes emoji now whenever, if you send me herd eys emoji, I'll go, that's a Nubis to me. I don't know who that is. I don't know what you're trying to tell me. I just all to agree as a culture what sis emoji means, regardless of context. I need it right now personally to

mean let's have sex. And that's one minute. I'm gonna tell you what the emogis mean in response to stories and girls. Let me know if you agree. Hard eyes emoji means I love this. I think it's so cute what you're doing. Like I'm in supportive in a positive way. I'm here fire emoji. Flame emoji means or if someone just says some of that, good friends do fire emogi and I'm going, I don't know. The lines are being blurred. You need to respond to them and say, hey, listen,

unless you're trying to suck me. Find a different emoji hunt because when you flame my story to me it means it's on to be honest, Like I feel like I'm like, do I just mess with like aggressive people? Because I don't really get emojis, nor do I send like it's more like, let's do it. Where are you? Where are you? Let's do it now? Do you use punctuation? No?

But I'm talking like I'm like people I don't know, like I'm an emoji sender in a very like sarcastic way, like I fend like sad face, like the hand up all the time, like I do think emojis are sort of the funniest thing. But wait, are you guys like this is just a sidestep. I don't think I need for a second, And I wonder are you guys like people who sort of get flirting in the d M s are you've sort of passed that? Now? One thing about Rene Rapp, that is what her DM are for. Yeah,

like that's what my public platform is for. I've really just like I don't I'm a flirtatious person. I think, Yeah, like I flirt with me probably I've done it for years, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's nice and renew every now and then I see you post some some d M screenshots, you seem to return an unhinged fan d M with the proper fervor and enthusiasm, and I really respect this. I love to chat. I love to chat because like even sometimes like if somebody says something like mean,

I want to go back. I want to go back, right, let's talk about sucking stupid. I'm like, okay, and you actually look like trash, so what I don't know. I love a conversation. Also, like I think my grandma has inspired me. She loves to talk to people on the

internet brow like she's obsessed. I used to do the thing of like, um, when someone was nasty to me in a message or a d M or whatever, I would respond and be like, hey, I saw this, and I could tell you didn't think I would respond now that I have, can you explain why you did this? And they literally like, oh my god, yeah, I don't know why I did that, like sorry, I'm a fan, like etcetera. And I'll be like, oh, interesting, But it's

never no one has ever doubled down. I've also like done it to someone, like a couple of years ago, there was an episode of the Bachelor. Oh it was Claire's season. I don't know if anybody wants, but long story short, there was a super super super fucking misogynistic guy and I like fully by the way, I mean like this was like probably like I was a public person at this point, and I go into his things

and like, motherfucker, you don't deserve check that. And he responded and I was like, and you so you doubled down. I've been on both sides, Joni Mitchell. Respect, you've been on both sides. Now what that was? That's and that what are you just gonna say? And that's what makes you cuspe? And it also just shows that we need to come back in the cultural conversation in some way. Absolutely. Okay, so Aaliyah, I think it might be time for your

I don't think so, honey. Oh god, I don't remember gonna do it, but you can, Okay, Okay, Okay, this is Elisha Nell Scott. I don't think so honey, her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Wicked losing the two thousand four Tony Awards for Best and they lost to I don't think so honey. They lost two Avenue Queue so raised this puppet musical that have white people in the theater running around singing Everybody's a little

bit racist. As an ingest fun gave them full permission to look me in my eye and say, have a new cue said, I said, hey wrote Avenue Cube Baby. Although I do love white men with their freaking and horatist character and and Gary Coleman over Wicked the musical of the Center like Wicked. Yeah, we're talking a story that actually truthfully racism about a girl overcoming their skin color.

We're talking about female friendship love. We're talking about and you're gonna tell me that the silly racist puppet musical is better. I think we should go back and right that wrong as a community, as a people in the in the theater, I think we need to fix that. Thank you. That was brilliant. First of all that one minute, Oh my god, I can't we have not talked about this, everybody speaking about it like best musical Tony that it

is a piece of history that needs correcting. I think we can change this if we can get a petition going, if we can rally enough people. The Tony away from Avenue to It really is so crazy and the thing is, like you have to think maybe it's because they could not have known that Wicked would have the impact that it would have going forward, because had they, they would have been like, oh, yeah, we're obviously going to celebrate this revolutionary, iconic thing that is like changing the culture.

I mean, I remember being in high school and like all my girlfriends in high school were like listening to that in their cars on the way to and fro school. It was a culture shaker, right, my only thing. And I love Adina the only thing. The only reason I can think is that it was a hard sing it times a week, and in truth they wore her out, and maybe that for the rest of her life, rest of her life, it was screaming, and maybe that if you do go back and watch it's not it's not good.

If you go back and watch the Tony Award performance, you know what I'm it's tough. It's a very hard mountain to scale, is um and the girls have figured it out now now we know that mixing is a thing and we don't pull voice that And that was just a different time, different era, And I mean I could inter forgiving everything she had to it. I really do. He's a better woman than me. I mean, the thing about Adina is and we love Adina, and I've seen on the stage. Now I go, I go see Ladina's plays.

I watch all of you, and I went to see skin Tight. Then I saw If then and I thought, okay. But literally all the televised performances of Adina, you can tell she gets nervous because because it's literally it's she obviously has the note. But I wonder if it's just when something is on television she feels nervous and maybe isn't breathing right, or like gets ahead of it, or something happens where it started falls apart on television. But you know, it's also it's it's a lot hard thing

to be clear. I could not do it. You totally. You can't wait, thanks girl, I couldn't. I couldn't do that. I can't wait to see Cynthia though. Okay, are you ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew it. This is Renee Raps. I don't think so, honey, her time starts now. Hi, I don't think so, honey. To that bitch at French customs, you still have me been like two weeks later. Here's why I was doing fine. I had all my bags, I had all everything ready

to go. When I was going into France. I was like, I was like, let me have all of my information, right okay. And I had to get like a special little stand because I was technically working, well, I'm coming out of France, okay, I'm going into London, and I was working on how to get a little extra stamp right like. She was like, do you know how long you're here? And I said no, because I don't hold that information. I go wherever everybody else goes. I'm not

a logistics person. We all know the shows on my face. It's a very very clear to day bitch. Ok So I was like, fine, we get into a little tuft tiffed whatever, and she's immediately not sucking with me. And then next I go to the conveyor belt. These two girls are just next to each other the conveyor belt. They're like, put your bags in here. I'm like, this bag doesn't close. Put your bags in here. I'm like,

it doesn't close, it's going to fall out. They're like, okay, put it in anyway, and I was like no. I took the bag with me through and then started breaking the funk out because I was like I fucking hate French customs, and I've always been a little bit skeptical of French people. I think I've seen too much. I was like, let me just fucking give everybody the benefit

of the doubt. No, I actually didn't, because then a bald man afterward tried to get in our fucking way and apparently with yelling at my mother and don't yell at my mother. No, I don't think this was one minute and forty seconds. Wait, I have to say, but we have to we have to know what happened. Did you eventually get through? Like? What? Was it easy? Was it a hard process? Absolutely did get through. But so she was like, how long will you be here? You said,

I don't fucking know. Yeah, well, because she had an attitude about her, and I was like, well, I don't. I don't really, I was honestly, I was just being super transparent because I'm all aboutransparency. And so I was like what and she was like, well, what are you here for us? At work? She said, what kind of work do you do? As in music? She said, okay, do you know what you're She was like, I thought you would have your paper. I was like, what paper? I was like, I gave you two pieces of paper

We've got to be on there. She was like, is this you and her? Of course that's me. I was like, it's a pasty, little blonde bitch. It's me, honestly. If someone's going to have an attitude, though, it's the person at French Customs, which also like valid and empathy extended

all of that. Yeah, something about I love London, the city, I love the British people, but something about me fly into London the other day yesterday, even this fucking flight attendant on British Airways talking down to me like crazy and then goes and then out of no, I'm just I'm trying to watch the last of us on my damn iPad. She goes, there's a reading like that. I don't know if you know that, which she said, do you know that? The way she asked me, do you

know that? I said? I turned her. I go, yeah, I know that, Like, don't fucking talk to me like this ever in any class. I'm in business, thank you very much. Off of Universal Studios is dime. But like something about Heathrow. These fucking customs people don't know how to look at this paper on and have to go through all their their little stamps. It's so weird. You want to know what's fucking crazy? Actually, I was going

to Berlin, so I guess German customs. The question that I was asked, he was like, how long are you here for? Again, I'm like, I don't know. Okay, I'm like with the people in front of you say because I'm with them, so and he was like he was like, um. He asked me another question. I was like sure, I'm just really not sure. And then he was like how much money do you have with you? And I said you have I don't really carry cash like that. Again, I'm say, okay, so I'm like I don't really have cash.

I was like, I have a credit card. He proceeded to say, how much money is on your credit card? Incorrect? No, yeah, I swear to god. I watched up to my mother and I was like, I I almost got into a tip where I was like about to really like come for somebody and like be yeah, no, I do wonder I didn't go to jail in France because hey, I'm in a French prison and a non but a non place. Soon, yeah, everybody everybody's and you know what one of problems with

other people. And you're like, maybe you should look in word. That's something I've been looking in word. No, I just have issues with others. Well, when someone's acting from Hurts like they can't they can't be like surprised when they get treated like Nikki from Hurts. You know what I'm saying. I know, I'm thinking people solicit conflict in order to test a boundary. Period. So Nikki from Hurts is trying to fucking see where the boundary is. Look at the

reacting to that. And you've you've been mother on this. You just spoke, period. I've never heard a statement. You really just spoke. Wow, y'all any of us would break reade out of a French prison or a German one. I mean, we've been speaking so much on this episode. You might call it the film women Talking. We've been speaking so much. This was almost the movie Women Talking with how much women talked on this episode. And I

feel as though a word was said many times. And I feel that we have been blessed as as what we can really call ourselves about in a duo by this duo. And I see the future and it is bright. It is very bright. These are stars. They're among us stars, so many stars, too much? Right? You ate? Sorry you could make diamonds though, are so beautiflful. I can't even I can't even sing more. Isn't too emotional because this has been such an amazing app when you said about this,

this has been an amazing episode. The energy is off the charts. I'm telling you, I see stars tonight. I see stars tonight. Thank you so much for Annaliah. We love you so much. We love you both. Thank you for having us. This is you gotta be streaming the sex Lies of College Grounds everybody. It's really fun and like it'll lift you, especially after an episode of the Last of Us That will destroy you and both on HBO Max. Listen to an e z P. Everything that

every everything, Everyone, It's but you're not on it? Get on it if you're not obsessed with the way she sings, with the tambre her voice. When she sings, it's easier to holding a grudge. You haven't really lived, okay, And we end every episode with the song I see starts so many so soon night. You you so beautive, We're all star. Actually never learned like look for that one in cinemas in e Leargentina FA