"Hungry Girl Who Loves Flavor" (w/ Arden Myrin)

several must mean seven of these things. Come to find out couldn't be further from the truth. Several. Several is tricky because, um, you know, there's no conventional number attached to it. But it could be four, could be five, could mean could even be three, which I always felt was a few. Now I think few is three and that's just locked in. You can't there's not really that much room for other numbers. Um. And already we're adding

items of the items of business. I mean, we had to figure out what the correct terminology is for all these things. Absolutely absolutely what what what are the what are the items of business? I can't really think of any Well, it's interesting that you say that, since you said, well, let's just can't think of them. Let's now forty five minutes into the podcast, get to the first one, which is I have heard the note from the public, which

is that I am quote screaming into the mic. Now I want to just address all the readers and say, you know me. You know I get excited. I get so excited when I see my sister. But on the other half of my heart and I get so excited whenever I see are esteemed guests and who boy, as they say all over the world, we have an amazing one today. So that's number one. Now, you have always been at a good volume. I don't think I on

a hardware um level. I'm not because our sound engineer Dog is telling me to move the mic closer into my face, further away, use this different program, use that different program. So I feel like I am really getting It's a show. This term noted to death. Yeah yeah, And when you get over noted, you often get in your head. So we're just gonna say um to all the readers, shut up, shut up, um. We're doing our best to provide you with entertainment for free from our

damn homes. Okay, horny. Now, second item of business. As the readers all know, we've been discussing one famous reality competition series called you Can Say It with Me at the same time, Bowen, Survivor. Now, we love the show Survivor, and I will ask the guest in a short period of time whether she enjoys the program Survivor she enjoys other reality programs, because then she's a reality queen. She's

a reality queen. But um, I did want to update all of the readers on a very exciting development that will be coming to Lost Cultures. Thus, you're going to announce it is time to announce that in a few weeks time, we will be hosting the One, the Only She is coming Bowen. This is a moment in time. This is actually like, this is a benchmark for the pod. I think I will say I was nervous when we went to go get Margaret show on the pod. This is the more nervous than I'll ever be. And was

my hero. You face times me when you had it and when you when I first I started watching Survivor a couple of weeks ago, you faced timey one day you were pacing around in your home and you were like, I think we should reach out to Partty, and I was like, absolutely, let's do it. And I'm so happy we did because she has said yes to the invitation. She listened to the Laura Laptus episode and quote enjoyed it. And so now we are having the legend, the Survivor

legend of all time on the show. She wants to come on after the Survivor current season Winners at War, which she is competing on ends. So we have homework for the readers in addition to shutting up about our volume. They must catch up on parverty seasons and you are currently watching watching one. I am finishing up Micronesia fans versus favorites. It's riveting television. So um, I would say, and this is, this is this is the order that I've been recommended. I think it's it's so far served

me very well. I was told to start with Pearl Islands, which seven just to get Sandra, and you got your lil You've got your Rooper, you got your fair play um, and then move on to Cook Islands, which is basically parts first season introduction to Parvety and Ozzie and you will and you will and Penner and and Candice characters, characters I very you know, sort of very kind of hypertroversial, controversially said um that John Penner and Candice were um

white supremacy, and it was controversial controversial time they are obviously not. Penner is famously Jewish. If we can't go making these claims, I'm just kidding. No, they're wonderful people. This is the thing. Okay. So then so so then you watch Cook Islands, and then you watch and then I watched China, and I had a very crazy arc with one PG law who started out the game a little I thought, I don't know what. I don't like

what's going on here. She's plotting too early on, and then a little hard in the beginning, played a little hard in the beginning, and then this is not a spoiler, but after the merge, she really, I mean shows a gumption and a drive that you don't really see all the time on the show. So I kind of broadcast

out on instwo stories. Someone sent her that story where I where I just kind of like charted my my, my trajectory with her, and then she reached out and then we had a lovely conversation and hit it off. And one of these days. We both pitched it to each other. We might just do a little fun, little cocktail hour. And she's like, you can ask me all you want about China, Like, I can't wait. Tell me I have to be there for that. You have to be I will invite you as well. All right. So

PG is awesome. I love her so much. I am a fan of PG two and she Fames comes back in Second Chances of years later, voted in by the fans. And so now you're watching Micronesia, which is the Parvety season. Yes, the party season. I'm gonna watch that, finish that then then I'm gonna move on to Heroes Versus Versus Villains. Then um Winners IT War, Winners IT War. So that's the homework. Everyone catch up on the Parvety seasons, Cook Islands, Micronesia,

Heroes Versus Villains, and Winners IT War. You all have nothing to do. Let's just say, let's just say, like before we bring our guests in, I'm so excited she's here. But let's just thrill to have our guest. But for the for the big survivor heads out there, the people who have stuck with it all all forty seasons, all

twenty years, we realize where Dilton's were just coming in. Um, so please just um bear with herewith We understand there are huge gaps in knowledge and experience, but we are passionate fans now and we hope that we can catch up to you guys at some point. And speaking of being passionate fans, so this is the deal with our guest, and I think that this actually is a huge moment for you bow And, who is a Saturday Night Live

cast member who is famously Team Matt TV. I grew up with no cable and on the Bunny Ear antennas, which is what we had on Saturday's. We got Fox better than we got NBC. So it was just this thing where I would I my default would be mad. I'm going to say this. I would watch Matt TV first, then watch SNL later. And the SNL was so grainy, but I still loved it. But Matt TV was crystal clear. And why I mean, I stuck with Matt TV a

long time, especially especially through our guests seasons. And we're going to talk about this, I mean talk about being I mean the whole the thing with Matt TV is it was always actually legendary because if you really looked at the whole tenure of the show, they were always iconic cast members on it, and we have to ask about her peers on the show, in addition to delving deep into her own career, which is fucking popping off currently on Insatiable on Netflix, which I am insatiable for.

Remember I watched that first season and truly ours. And Debbie Ryan is a friend of a friend and she is culture. She is culture. I stand Debbie Ryan, We stand Debbie Ryan. And then she's also the host of She's a She's She's a Network matebo Yes, Queen is hosting will You Accept This Rose? On My Heart? A bachelor recap podcast and talks all bachelor of things and also reality show topics, and we're currently in a Bachelor's season, believe it or not, even though there's a twist on

the format, and we'll talk about that. We've got to talk about it. Also has appeared on Shameless and like many many many shows, Orange with the New Black, et cetera. This is someone who appears in media frequently, and that's important to do when you want an entertainment career. And that's actually ruler culture number fifteen. If you want an entertainment career, it's important to appear often in media. And she's a true she's a true culture because she joined

in on that on that, on that rule. Everyone please welcome into your artist Marie. I can't believe I'm here. I stand you too. I could not be happier. You've chosen well with Debbie Ryan. Is really really she's a talent. She gave me this necklace. She gave me, she made me. She made me like a friendship necklace. Yes, it's a key, it's a key. We're friends, talk about the friendship, talking about the friendship. What do you like? Okay, so I

will spill that tea on Debbie Ryan. I mean, what was fun about it was, you know, like I don't have kids. I I didn't grow up watching Jesse, you know, like, I'm not like a child molester. I didn't know who she was. And so we filmed in Atlanta and normally I've done shows that were with a lot of sort of silly character actors, and this was like a beautiful person show. This was initially the c W and they passed on it. But it was a show that was pageant Queens and we had like a listen m alt.

It was like not my late up the highway. I'm like, who am I going to hang out with? And um and then lo and behold of all the people. I told her my bff A t L became Debbie Ryan. We would go I hung out with her like like literally, we would go for tacos multiple times. We went to Scooters and Pima Park. We would go would we would? I never went to She went to claremout Lounge. I've never been to claremout Loude. We would go to um Roller Derby, we went to like we just it was

like this is who I hung out with. It was just it was a montage. And what was funny about her. She's like because she comes and does my podcast and I have to warn like the other people who do it.

I'm like, at first, it's going to be hard to look at her because she's the most attractive person you've ever seen close off, and then you start talking to her and you're like, oh no, she's just like a ding dong, Like she's a silly person born into this stunning package and and she doesn't probably know, like it's like this weird, little funny person. It's the oddest I know. I talked to her yesterday, No rain shall fall? Who

would have I told her? She's my b F F eight one eight Now she's my best friend in the valley in l A. Eight one eight is a valley area code. I could tell I was going to like her because I her very very close friend is Jill Guttowitz, who is wrote wrote for a game show Who's the Best? And I. It's one of those people where it's like any friend of yours is going to be a friend of mine. That's how I feel about Ms. Debbie, who I've never met but his family. Debbie came to visit

my home. She she went with me to rhode I go up in this tiny town and speaking for you Bow and I. When I got on at TV, I had never seen it because we didn't have cable in my town and we only got in BC, so we didn't get Fox very clearly. So I had literally like never really seen it was because it was too staticky. So remember doing like a red carpet thing. In the beginning,

They're like, what's your favorite character? And I hadn't grown up with any of it because I didn't get I never we didn't get this reception right, but like it. It doesn't take away from anything. But so Debbie came, came to Henie, came to visit me in her island. She made it to hometown. She made it to hometown. She made it a little Compton. She and he was the best part, the one person she made it's a little Compton, has zero stop lights, has a general store.

The only coffee shop is in an apple orchard. And she got recognized by one kid who said, are you Debbie Reynolds, Oh my DeBie Reynolds. And she was like and she and she obviously had to say no, her being Debbie Ryan and all, yeah, And that was the way that she could be like, no, I'm not I'm not Debbie Reynolds. Yeah, And then we went to hung out like the apple orchard. It was crazy. Debbie could have a Debbie Reynolds career. She could, She absolutely could.

She also can she I bet she could because you know those Disney they trained those Disney kids. I've worked with a few of those Disney kids and they have been trained, and I feel like they show up they know they're aligned and you better believe they could probably hit their one to three four ball change, you know. I mean it's actually rulal culture number twenty two. Disney kids they show up and they know their lines, the

Disney kids they show up. But I will reveal at this time that I did not know that she was a Disney star. I only knew her from in Safe Yeah, that's the thing. I was like, I never I didn't know, you know, and so that made it And it was interesting. Also being in Atlanta, it's almost like you're a camp you know, there you befriend I didn't know anybody else in Atlanta, so it's like who am I, Who am I going to hang out with? You know? And so I would never have guessed that it was like, of

all the people, it was Debbie. It was Debbie to me that she made me a friendship bracelet. She didn't my mailing a friendship Bowen hasn't made me a friendship bracelet and done. I've been much better thing. I've given you much better jewelry, jewelry. He has never given me a jewelry. He's given me a very nice pair of shoes, which at the time was the first time either of

us had even any expendable income. And he bought me a pair of Alexander Ms Queen sneakers with a lift, and I mostly just look at them in my closet and fawn over them and never really wear them. Now I'm not wearing my nice clothes. Oh yeah, I love your man friendship so much so this is this is this is the sisterhood of the Traveling um host of the Traveling Host. I just listened to your Lauren la episode,

who's also with Debtie. It was me Laurenie's copy that is that's actually going to go ahead and make me very jealous. You can come, you want to come, Let's go in that now and um yeah that it was random. Not now, but like when we're free, when we get when we get let out of ourselves. Are you there now? No, I'm in I'm in Los Angeles. You're in Los angele in Los Angeles. I love the wallpaper, thank you, it's

actually fabric. This is my podcast studio. It's a garage and this is its soundproof It's like soundproofing, and that's how you know we have a podcast. Queen is she's got herself a studio, just got herself. She's got herself a damn studio. She got herself a damn studio. This podcast being a visual medium and all, we should still describe what the what the wallpaper looks like. So what would you describe as the theme of your podcast studio.

It's like I feel like I'm going on like we're in Morocco and like sing like we're going we're going to like Marrakesh. It's like Marrakesh. She meets Ikea. You know. It's like it's like if we're like Jackie Kennedy and its and like maybe we're sneaking off like with our sister and we're gonna like maybe sneak a little like heyote or something and like seeking in the desert and uh and we've we've hired like a beautiful tent to come with us. We're just gonna go like have her

like Lawrence of Arabia kind of like that. So that's what's happened. Oh my god, really full story, full storyline. And you you you kind of painting that picture made me think, for some reason, what would it be like to like at least smoke weed with Jackie Kennedy. That's yes, because it's like a lady in a pillow box hat and white gloves. But then she's like getting freaking. I feel like she'd do an edible and I don't picture her no, I picture her like having like a nice

little like gummy. Yes, she would nibble on an edible. And for the first twenty five minutes before I kicked in a half hour, she'd be very annoying about quote unquote what it was going to do to her. Yes, yes, yes, she's like I think I feel it. I think yeah, checking in, there'd be a lot of checking in. You would need to kind of babysit her. I want to say, also survivor, can I bring up I please listen to listen to the learn lot because episode really made me.

I actually like I wrote down the what you the order and I'm going to do so I did like the first bunch of seasons. I did the return in Sue if you were dying, but this side of the road, I would not. You know, one of the if you're going to audition for Juilliard, you should consider that as your monologue because it's this colecular revenge monologue. It's honestly a really good monologue for like a certain type. The if I saw you dying you first monologue, you could

definitely perform worse things. It does feel written, it's so good. And then I remember I watched the um Boston Robin Amber years and Elizabeth hasselback. Yeah, So I don't know why. I feel like then I got distracted by America's next Top Model. I feel like maybe I went to that and like Project run Way and then Early Bachelor, which I then stopped, But that I think I just sort of got distracted because there's so many fun things started

getting offered. Yes, for competely, it might have been it might have diverged generationally at like around two thousand three, two thousand four, where people just like split out and then like the Men, you got bigger with what we could see, you know. I think that's around when I think when Top Model started it was Top Model, Project Runway,

I was like, whoo oo pictures smizing. One for me was that that kind of took me away from Survivor because I remember there was a time in my life when I was very young watching Survivor where I would like cut out pictures from magazines and put them on my wall and like make lists of who I thought was gonna like win and like reorder them on my wall for like the standings, and then I remember American Idol happened, yes, and I was like, oh, this combines

the competitive aspect with music, which I love, and it took me away from it. But I think that that's true. Like, while Survivor did create the modern competitive reality show, it also gave birth to so many other ones ended up hurting it in a way. An amazing race, amazing race, Amazing race is a feat. I have a confession, Yes, I was. I had applied with Lance Mass to do it this August. We were gonna have you heard, Yeah, they were interested in having us and we were just

gonna do it for fun. It was just like we knew we weren't going to win, but we wanted to like try, and the TV is great for that. I mean, that's great TV. You and land to keep going. Sorry, that's fine. I know that Mike White had done it and so like yes and Survivor and Survivor too. Yeah, So we decided, we applied, We sent in a video and we were gonna be team Razzle Dazzle, and all of our clothes were gonna say Wrazzle dazzle, and I was gonna razzle and it was gonna be dazzle, and

I was gonna let him outfit us. And we were just I can drive stick shift, I will eat anything. He's not afraid of heights. Like we were just going to go really try to win and not win. We're not not strong enough or brave enough to well. Honestly, I feel like now that it's out there, it is manifested and we have something to share, which is that we were sort of approached about the amazing one Zeke Smith. Yeah, who's a contestant on Survivor who is is wonderful as

also has also done comedy. Zeke Smith. He was liked, you guys want to be recommended. And I was like, should we do it together? Let's do it together? Should we do it together? I mean honestly, because I feel like, do people make alliance? Because I feel like we would try to have the four of us running around the world. I don't know if we could do an alliance. I think unfortunately we would have to try and crush. You know, we won't win. We're not a threat. I trust me.

I'm a weak link. And he discovered that quick, like here's what's so funny too. It's like you guys are bfs. I love Lands. I don't know him that well. And I was going to ask, what's so what's fun about it? Is you? So I did you? So they actually call my manager. So here's the You get paid, you make make you get paid nothing, zero, earn zero unless you win. And then you are completely cut off from all communications. You are not allowed access to your email, your phone, nothing.

And even if you make yes, and assuming Lance and I would get caught in like at the Burbank airport or what I say, we got cut like week two. You then get sent to you get sent to UM. I forget what they call it, but it's you basically get quarantined at a hotel like some and you're stuck.

And I think because if you like pair up as like a couple, like I think Lance and I would be in a room with no access to the internet for it's thirty days that you are locked in a hotel on like Mexico or wherever they like go like sply you away somewhere and lock you up and they let you go use the pool or the gym, but you can't use the computer. You can't call people like and they're really crazy about that. You're you're just not at that level with lands friendship, Like no, but that

would be. But I'm se enough that I feel like we get a little role. But but that's a lot to act. That's a big ask. That's a big first

date friend date. Yeah. The thing is like also too, it's like I feel like if you are going to go like I'm actually watching the Survivor's seasons right now, which are Blood versus Water, which is where you go on with a family member, you bring someone and so the thing about that is like you really do need someone that you can communicate clearly and intensely with that isn't going to be like tired tentatively and that is

a huge when you're tired stressed. Um, so there needs to be some real familiarity or just like personality is just uniquely clear. Can't be fair weather. You can't be fair weather from not question when you like, when you got approached, did the cells in your body? I'll fire off like in a crazy like oh my god, we like, did you have a go weird chemical reaction in your body? We really did consider it, I remember, right, it wasn't

well at the time. It was a thing of like, well, what if we do this and sort of become weirdly known for it, will us in other areas and then and then and then I'll say honestly, when I saw Mike White on Survivor, I was like, oh no, I'm definitely going on so every one day, well that's what I actually called. I called my man like, I called my manager and was like, is this career suicide? If?

I like, like, is this career suician? And then somebody I knew did Dancing with the Stars and they were like, art at all it does is just introduced you to like you know, you're in it. Shameless are on Staable like those are very sort of dark comedy cable Lee things like this is like Middle America gets to know you, and like you get to gets it different. It's a

whole different crowd and like who cares? And then you would kill it because everyone in Middle America would love you and the large gay fan base would be like, arden is is my queen? It was That's the thing that I am sad as about. Like as far as being locked up, I was like, wait a minute, so you're telling me like, I'm not going to be running around with Lance bat asked, like I even bought like a weighted vest to train because I was like that

I bought like a weed. I was like, I need to work on like running with the backpack, you know. Like I was like, I'm like, I don't want to weigh down Lance Bass. Friend of the Pod Tyler Oakley has been on two seasons of Amazing Race and does well on the show. And I think that being like

being well known doesn't hurt you on Amazing Race. It really hurts people, I think on Survivor because then people immediately say they don't need the million dollars get Because I was recently watching a season which has Lisa Welchell, who was Blair on the Facts of Life sur How did she do? She always had the big hair spoiler alert, she makes it to the finals. What was her personality like? She was very very very sweet and kind and sort of coattail righty, but in crucial moments she did make

good strategic moves. Um And then the season I'm currently watching, uh, there's a very controversial baseball player on it. His name is John Rocker. So I don't know if you and

the readers know about John Rocker. But John Rocker was a relief pitcher for the Atlanta Braves in the late nineties early two thousand's, and he made a lot of very controversial comments about the ethnic makeup of New York and people who ride the subway and an interview and an interview during the playoffs and essentially got like ran out of the league. So right now, on the season of Survivor I'm watching, which is Survivor San Juan he is. Other people are finding out that that's who he is,

and it's so it's interesting too. I wonder if people if you went on like a reality show like that where you had to compete, if people would recognize you. I think they fully would. I think they would have to. Yeah, I mean yeah, I think it's like, I don't think I'll have the hearty. I would never last on Survivor for so well, I'm a natural redhead and my skin would fry off like I would just it's hard enough living in l A with SPF nine hundred. I'm a

hungry girl. It's I'm a hungry human. I love flavor, just the skin color and the did the burning and the series I just I have put me in an Eglue if it was Survivor Eglue edition. Maybe maybe I don't think like Northern Lights, I don't think it's happening. That would be an amazing narrative though, because even just you sitting there right now and you said I'm a hungry girl, I love flavor Is, I would pull that and put that in the trailer. It's producer, Catinet. You

aren't producing unit. Wait before we go to break, we are, and so we should we ask you? I mean, is your favorite reality show the Bachelor and the Bachelor? Is that the like the North Star for you? I mean, if I'm being really honest, no, no, but like I love it. I love Bachelor in Paradise. I love Bachelor Paradise. But then I also I love and I can't believe it's on right now because it's taken so long to come back. I love Top Chef, so I love this

current season. I love Bachelor in Paradise, and then I love like any kind of fashion. I love like making the cut next in Fashion Project Runway, and then Bachelor in Paradise. We have our producer, our producer Hans is saying love top Chef, he has not chimed in yet, but he's wants to say he loves Top Chef. Can I just say and again, I don't even cook. I'm a hungry girl who loves flavors, but I don't I

don't want to make them. And I'll tell you what if you've never watched Top Chef and I'm not a cook, I don't. I literally would never make any of these. I love flavors. I'm a hungry girl. If you want to start with Top Chef. The first season that Michael Voltaggio and Brian Voltaggio, the Voltaggio brothers on, it's like canan Abel where the younger the legendary. He's saying it's legend because the older brother, Brian is just I'm not going to give any spoilers, but the older brother, Brian

is the nicest. He's the equivalent of a human dad joke. He looks like a dad joke. He's a sweet guy. He does everything right. He's a classically changed chef, and his younger brother is rock and roll tattoo. You get the feeling he didn't even want to be a chef. It's just that he wants to crush his but he was to beat his brother. So if his brother want to be a baseball player, he would have become a rod. Like it's truly these two. But he just wants to

beat his brother. And it's watching this good student who's trying to do everything right, and then there's like chip on the shoulder younger brother who's just like, whatever you pick, I'm going to do it and do better and I'm gonna beat you. It's fascinating. So Brian Botage always on this currencies in which is all stars. My boyfriend was telling me that he has a lot of restaurants slots. He's he's a great chef. I think he's like a pro. He's a technical pro, but he's not like a wild card.

He's not a rock and roll chef, like getting doing coke in the kitchen right right right, and then they're out there. I just want good I just want a good soup that's good. Can dam Who do I have to flock to get a good super out here? It's actually real culture number eight. Who do I have around here? That's beautiful. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll

be right back with Art and Maureen. Okay, we're back, and we're actually back, and what we do when we come back is we we have a question prepared for you. And this actually is the question that we ask every single one of our guests that have been on last culture astas. So we here's the question for you. What was the culture art and that made you say culture was for me? Boone? Would you need to elaborate on this question? Absolutely, it's the culture that was for you

that really kind of opened up the cave door. You know how doors have, caves have doors. It's the cultor that opened up the door on the hinge door and you were able to walk into the cave. Up, walked into the cave, and I'm finally that door opened in the cave. Thank you so much for asking, Matt Bone. Thank you. I've been thinking about this. I'm so honored to be here. I feel like I've won amazing race. Thank you. Phil. I want to tell you here we go, it's gonna be I'm gonna do one main one, but

then I'm gonna do a follow up. The first one. The first one, As I mentioned, I grew up in Little Compton, Rhode Island, town of three thousand people, a general store, and a literate chief of police. No stop lights. We had two restaurants. They both burned to the ground. Literally nothing nothing. So it's like an island, but it's a peninsula. It's like it's a whole other planet. And we didn't get cable until like, you know, two days ago.

So it was three the three main channels, and like if you stood up with like holding a metal fork, you can maybe get PBS who would want that? No to thank you for me. So when when I was four years old, my mother drove me down to Manhattan. She brought me at age four as a little ginger girl, looking just like barbed stranger things. She brought me to see a broad Way show at age four. That first show was a little ginger child Annie. Yes, I'm so happy. I mean, I sat my mother. I was like, you're

holding back in my career. We need to move to New York. Is I? First of all? I used to be Annie. I should be any when they did they did like a nationwide search for the movie, and I went an audition and I was way too I was like four, and they're like, okay, you know an Eileen Quinn got it, but come on, God damn it, come on, come on. And then I had an older brother who basically there was no I've heard you talk about it like there was no parental supervision in the most wonderful way.

And there was also really no children's programming. So I just watched and I'm a night owl. So the television, and I'm going to say specifically the Saturday Saturday night lineup, which was like Facts of Life, silver spoons, we have some golden girls happening. There was some there was some

love boat, something to see island Um. And then there was a show on called Solid Gold where they had dancers and they were like slutty and with like dance and like like, and Diane Warwarck could sing live the theme song every week. It's like Solid Gold where the dreams. And I was like, I want to dress. I want to dress like a Solid Gold dancer. You want to express myself. And then the classy part was I had a smart older brother and he would show me like Melboy.

He would show me like Madeline con Terry Gard Terry Garr in Young Frankenstein, Are you hitting me? I mean Madeline Cohn in Blazing Saddles All to Steve market All Lily Tomlin like there was so it was sort of a highbrow too, of like like uh, and then Gilda

Rader's Rosanna Rosanna Dana. It was like I remember, I think it was like four watching all of this stuff and just being like and I would like steal their act, like right out what she'd done, and then and they would just let me watch all this ship and it

was like it was and I kept trying. And there was a girl that moved from New York down the street and she had done commercials and she'd had an agent, and I was like, and she did serial commercial, she did a serial commercial, and I was like, I need to I need to get an agent. We need to move to Los Angeles or Korean needs to be happening now.

When you always feel like you're behind, like I remember when I was like in college and I didn't have an age, and I was like, well, how the funk am I supposed to book anything if I don't have an agent? No, It's like I know, I remember like taking headshots in my dorm and choleral like just like this is gonna get me an agent, you know, like you just couldn't figure out like how am I going to get from this field to the move into my television.

How can I move into my television? Yes? Right, yes, for for me, it was for me, it was like watching the Oscars and watching people thank their agency for me to be like, okay, well that's what I need now as old need one now. I mean I always get thanked. They must be important. And these manages people, these publicists, these lawyers. Yeah, I made a whole team. It's actually rulal culture number fifty five. You're gonna need

a team, do you. Guys? Remember when Charlie's there won her oscar, she thanked her lawyer and she goes, yes, I'm friends with my lawyer. And I got a big laugh. I was like, I need a lawyer, the agent, publicist. Yes. I don't know what these people do, but my team, I need my team. I'm actually happy to report that Bowen and I are friends with our lawyers. And and one of my lawyers, Seth who's also Bowen's lawyer, called me on my birthday. Oh my god, thank you my

lawyer's Horrowist. Wait, we have to talk really quickly. You went you did go to college in Colorado? Did you didn't? I did I went to Colorado College in Colorado Spring. Oh, you guys have connected Atlanta and Colorado connection big. Yes. I want to say something. I want to ask you, now, how has it been? I don't know if you have freely like, how has it been being on SNL? I found that TV to be my hardest job I ever had.

I think sketch shows. Sketch shows are hard. And I remember, I remember I had tested for SNL against Amy, and then I knew when she got it that I probably like that was probably That's how I found out I didn't get it when end got it, and then I didn't and then I actually mad to be offered me the job that year and I said no, and then I didn't yeah, and then I did it, and then I did it the last four years. And then I did a bunch of because I come from sitcoms, and

I did a bunch of pilots. I didn't get picked up, and I remember I ran into and they would. It wasn't that I thought I was like better than I was, honestly more at a fear because I thought I didn't know if I was going to go and thrive. I wasn't a ground like I'd made this tape in my living room and I sent it into SNL and Mad TV, and then they both called me, and I remember being I knew a lot enough people that had worked at

SNL to know how hard it was. And then I knew that I had never done any of these characters in public, and I was concerned. Now looking back, I wish I could have given that young gal like a pat on the back, and I'm like, just fucking like, you made the tape, just yeah, And then I remember it was like and then and then I got the offer from Mad TV, and I remember just being there was something that was like. And then I had started

in Chicago. I'd done improv there, but I didn't. I was their first Internet Improv Olympic and I they let me take the classes, but I did them all at once, so I did begin or intermediate and advanced it once. I was like with Dell close, and I remember realizing that, like, there's a reason you do it in order, like I didn't learned my like alphabet to the words to the sentences, like it was like and I'm after after I said no to Mead TV, I went and quietly I went

through and did the class. I just did it all. I went and really learned how to do it, and then I auditioned again, and then I went, like I got the chops to go do it. That's pretty cool that they were. They were like here she is again, and like it worked out that way that you were able to end up doing it. Do you feel like it? Yeah? Do you feel like it was better for you to take the time to sort of reassemble or not? I think personally, yes, I do. I think personally because I

know that they're hard. They're hard environment. It's hard when you know, coming from like sitcom or scripted things where it's like I play Mary, you play Brian, Like we have no hand in our fate. The writers give us our scripts and like you make the best of what you get and and so you can be my friend because we're not competing to get like one spot. I found that, Um, I just knowing who I was, I

do think I did the right thing. But I wish I could go back and be like what I know now as a human it's like, don't die yourself, just go do it, you know. I wish I could say that totally. I would say that there are some aspects of Matt TV, especially by the time you were on and your class was like Christophlan again like Baron Holtz, Bobby Lee and like Jordan Peel, Michael Key, like like

a huge yeah. I think, like like a highlight era of the show, especially towards the end, but like, um, by that point, like people were like a lot of the cast members were like doing like out on stage, like talking to the audience directly and like that's something you don't you don't ever have to really do it as now, but it's like you would like whenever there will be pieces of you and Bobby like and stuff that was. Those are some of my favorites. I loves.

My favorite things were. It was interesting. I felt like I felt like I auditioned with all these sort of weird characters and then they I felt as if they died my hair blonde. I was a redhead, and I felt like they wanted to purchase like a want you know what I mean. And I was like, so I had to figure out kind of how to be funny, like I wanted to play all like the weird late old ladies or whatever. And it was and it was

an interesting thing. I think it was actually ultimately good for me to have to figure out that can I be Can I still be funny even if I'm like in a pretty party dress? You know what I mean that I don't have They were trying to hand, which is not who I ever was, you know, And it was an interesting thing to be like, all right, well

this is what they want. And so like even doing like the red carpet thing, which I ended up having fun like nobody wanted to do it, and then there was just there was one for Niptalk and I remember they were like, do you want to go do this? Nobody wants to do this, and it was like it was like a two hour and so I went and like I it was I've never seen the show and

it was like in two hours. So then I remember just trying to yeah, exactly what but like getting what was fun about doing the remotes or doing the things that were off campus was I didn't have to pitch, and I'd like, like you could just like, let if you just give me this five minutes of time, I

can go make something funny. But like I wasn't great at pitching things, and there was something tring of like let me just go improv and play with the l A. Kings or let me just go improv and play with Bobby versus like my fear of um like authority figures of like I'm going to pitch the sketch and then I'm going to write this sketch and please pick like there was I sort of had to sneak in through the dormer windows. Which do you have that did you?

Like I relate to this so hard is now that you're talking about this, Like I not the worst part of my The most nerve racking part of the job for me is just to like Tuesday nights, like before you write, you're supposed to like checking with producers and like, yeah, tell them what your idea is, and that's it. That's and I really fills me with the dread and I just want to get it over with. And I am talking, I mumble, I don't make eye contact. It's so panicky.

But but then this is so fun that you enjoyed all the remote stuff because like I think, like it's it's my favorite stuff that I've seen you do, absolutely and it's also like my favorite memories of the show are like watching like Alex sportstin and Will will say, so do stuff on the red carpets too, and then you and Bobby being yourselves, um doing stuff like I don't know, like it's just that part was just it felt sort of organic and not too written or whatever.

It was just organic, just fun and spontaneous that it wasn't It's an interesting thing to see. And I don't like I I didn't always. I always envied, you know, I always envied some of the guys would just go in with no fear and just be like, yeah, this is what I'm doing, and and the amount of fear of authority, like I it's interest. Like I recently, my friend and I wrote a script and you know, we were an indie movie and we were getting funding and

all the producers, in the director, everybody was female. And

I was like, I didn't realized. It was the first time I felt comfortable just saying this is my idea, I can defend it, this is like and that how much just pitching two straight white men, like how wanting to please and being intimidated and how hard it was just I it kind of made me sad, like pitching to these women realizing like how good I felt and just realizing, oh, that's probably how these guys felt the whole time on the show, and that and that I

never I always felt, and I think probably ultimately why I didn't take it in the beginning, like let me just prove, let me get one more class under my belt, just to prove, like you know, I I it's an interesting thing of like time wasted trying to get the official certificate to be like, you're funny enough. If you were a man, I bet you would have taken that job, because men are cultured to be like no for this, as women are like I'm not ready for this. It's

the way. And I think that gay men have it a little bit as well. We're not not to the same extent, but it's always like a second guessing of

yourself that you'll be prepared to handle the straight male opinion. Yes, I it's an like that's one of the things that like I like being more of an adult lady, like king back and just having compassion of like, wow, you made it through that and and you come by it honestly, and you don't have to do that anymore, and like go where the love is, go where the people want

to work. With you own your idea. There's places for it now, like don't be afraid of like sometimes even what's your what you think is the worst about you? Or is your what's your secret damage, or like what's your weird little idea of the story. Even just when I came up with the podcast, it's like, what makes your tail wag? It's what makes you feel kind of crazy? Even doing the amazing race with l It's beast or something. It's like, what's your little special thing to give to

the world that makes your tail? I protect it and then like go to people that can see it, and and you know, and that's not always it's not always the world that you're in. But it's like, don't be afraid of throwing your hat on it. That's beautiful and and and that just entails undoing a lot of the work that other people try to do where they do throw an image on do you like we're going to die your hair blond? But it's like no, I'm I'm Jackie Kennedy and Marry Cash. Yes, yes i am, And

I'm waiting for it to kick in. I think it's kicking in. Yeah, I feel like that's one of the reasons like I'm so proud of Bowen on SNL is because like he has an established identity and you can tell he's connected to that. Yet he is like I'll say, be the one that says this, but he is like playing the game of SNL well, like he's get he gets things on. He's always seems to be a present of the show. And this is not to put like any continued expectation on you, but you've done such an

amazing job. And I also think that you also are someone that people know as Bo and Yang and will continue to know as bow and Yang. And I have a feeling that um not everyone like feels like access to both parts of those things. I mean I know that, Like when I auditioned for it and did the test, I felt very in my head about like but if one of these things happen or if this doesn't happen, like do I not get to be myself or do

I not get to you know? Um have like free comes to this, But I feel like you have really been able to accomplish something very cool, which is you are very clear still in your point of view, but you also are very successful at the job that is Saturday Night Live, and I think that you should know that you're doing such an amazing it. Do you think do you think it helped writing on it? First? How about how many years were you a writer on it?

Just one? But like even just that one year of just like condensed, like you you just learn the rope so quickly and like it's boot camp, and like I got the offer to be a writer instead of cast, and it's like, I don't know if this is the right fit. And then I talked to friends. I talked

to Gary Richardson, who still works there, who's also a performer. Um, he got on the phone with me before I accepted the offer, and he was like, I would take it because I have learned so much about just how things work, just about like the the etiquette behind like collaborating with someone on anything. It's not even specific to the show, but it's like but then, but then, and now I'm learning that I'm I have different emotional responses to certain things.

Where like so as soon as arden you were talking about not feeling super comfortable in the pitch process, like I was like, WHOA, yeah, like that is that is hard because you know what that is? All that is like having to close the gap and understand someone else understanding what you're about, and so like that, of course you'd be more comfortable pitching to a room full of women.

Of course I'm more comfortable being on a set with like, let's just say Asian actors, because I've I've experienced that with um nor from queens whatever you are people or queer people. I'm I'm running down my resume too much, but it's like, oh, WHOA like that. I've been very lucky to have those things sort of set up for me um at some point so that I can just sort of not feel unanchored at a new gift in time.

Kitching is hard too, because it's like you have to explain yourself a succinctly quiet like and yeah and own it and not apologize for it and just like have a bit clear and you seem like you're into it, and it's you know, part of it is I've also had to learn that, you know, I love my writing partner, and knowing that it's always kind of anxiety producing for me to pitch, but that that I just need to keep it together for like five minutes, you know what

I mean. That it's like that I can rehearse it enough that it's that I might some people might be able to wing it more, but that if I rehearse it enough that I know it really well, then I can go almost treated like an audition and then go in and seem like fake it to make it a little like confident, even if it's you know, because I know that we'll do a good job once we write it. But it's it's it's just sort of not apologizing for taking up the space in the room to like take

somebody's time to explain it to them. But it's hard. Pitching any any comedic idea at any setting is always you know, you, it's you selling it because I mean, like if you bail on even the best idea in the world, it won't go like you know what I mean. Like I think of the confidence that had to take to like pitch something like David S. Pumpkins. It's like literally on papers is nothing, Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's nothing, and then in performance and execution it is iconic,

you know what I mean. But like there had to be a germ of like or like a seed of confidence that like goes with that, you know what I mean, like you have to be like someone who's behind what they're doing in order to make something work. So I always feel like anything i've pitched that like I went to the next place, so like continued on. Like I was like, well, thank god I was behind that. It's

performing where if you're having fun, they're having fun. Like when you're pitching, if you're you can take it into

being a good thing. I'll tell you. I started doing stand up later and it's been like it was so helpful for me in so many areas, Like I started out as a stand up and that's how I got my agent and then um and then I quickly like I lucked out and I got a sitcom, and I like I was just sort of and I moved from New York to l A. And but I remember doing when I was doing Chelsea Lately, Bobby Lee sort of did an intervention on me because you know, it was so on to do Chelsea and it was nice that

people sort of put a name to the face and they'd get to know us. Thank you. I love doing it. And he was like, but I lived in New York and so I would like fly myself out and they you know, it's e late night, so you make like three bucks and he goes, he was like, I love Bobby Lie so much, and he was like arden, He's like, he was like, listen to me. You're a funny person. You're the only person on here that's not earning on

the weekends from this. Like every time he's like you, he's like, this is how much I make every weekend, and you have the exact same credits as me, And there's no reason you shouldn't be a stand up and earning from this. And then so he was like, here's what I'm gonna do. And well, like one month's time, you're gonna I have a show at the Ice House in Pasadena and you're gonna come to a ten minutes set. Was me and Jordan Peel. We're going to each go

do ten minutes sets. And so he's like, so, whatever you need to do between now and a month from now to get your ten minutes set ready, you're gonna you're gonna come do that in a month. And so I was like, and then he went over to his house and he was like, Okay, first you need to decide. He goes, first of all, you thank the host and then he's like, and he's like, and you're an attractive females, you need to insult your appearance. And he's like, and

then so they don't. You don't see the audience doesn't think that you think you're all that. And then he goes, you have to decide whether or not you're a physical comic or you're a mic in the stand comic. And he goes, I think you're a physical comic. So he goes, So then you take the stand and you thank the host, and you put the stand behind you so the stand

isn't blocking, and then you can move around. And then when you're done, you put the mic pick to pick to stand back, and you put the mic back in the stand. And it was just so interesting coming back to stand up because I and what's and then headlining way too quickly, you know, because I had the credits. I was headlining way too fast, but out of pride,

like just getting my ship together. It's like, well, if I'm gonna be up there for forty five minutes, I better like at least I remember going, I'm gonna give an a performance of like B material, you know, for a while, like as you're like, I may have the best jokes about I'm gonna give a really fun performance and then like working on it as you go, like you know in the beginning. But what was so great

was just saying of not bailing. You know, it's a long time to be up there so for you know, and there's check drops and waiters and sometimes people get tired of the A C is not working or somebody's drunk, and not giving up on yourself when you're when you're starting to lose your attention and just to be like like to not panicked, to know that it's okay to start to leave your body like Elvis starts to leave the building and then just to kind of come back

in and like even if your mouth is still moving and you've left the building, to like do a little self soothing come back. You know that you can like reconnect and like change the energy or like ask them about like that you can. It's never too late to get them back. And and that's helped me. Like pitching

that's helped me, Auditioning that's helped me. Like if I test for something, that's helped me doing like theaters, like acting plays, and like it it's that to not fear when you start to leave the building because it's going to happen from time to time, just to like figure out ways to kind of get you back and like pitch and not bail on yourself. No, that's cool. That's that's a mindfulness thing. It's so crazy. Did you originate did you originate? Met your shower? I was the I

was me and Jenna Fisher. She did this. It was like a co So I did the they did the pre Broadway one. One of them was out here at the Old Globe, and then one of them I did the one in New Haven I did. I did the part there okay? And was that the Amy Schumer role? Yeah? So she was nominated for a Tony for that. It's

a great role. I was thinking about just things that make me nervous before I go on stage, because I was it really over the years as I've become like more seasoned, like very few things would make me nervous. But um, straight up acting on stage I think would make me nervous because you are without the crutch. It's it's a sort of opposite of what you were saying before.

I'm so comfortable being myself on stage and relying on my own creations, but um, when I have to interpret something else or tap into someone else on stage, that is what would make me a little nervous. Like but you are you were you always a trained actress or like it was kind of opposite for you. I mean,

it's an interesting I've done. I've done like five plays in New York and around there, and it's been so interesting to sort of goodle like I've done three at the public too, at the I don't know whatever, but like to go and do like do these sort of fancy things with these like I remember again it was one of those fancy It is one of those things.

And I remember before I had done stand up at first, so I don't reme what this but like my brain when I was younger being like, oh I didn't go to Juilliard, I didn't go to Yale, Like, oh, it's not. And then I have to say coming back and doing them after having headlines stand up for many years, you're like, I can't fucking do anything. I don't mean like I know how to be I can stay grounded on stage. I can listen and respond what was helpful for me

doing it? This isn't a full answer to your question, but like seeing that it's helped me with auditions and stuff in that I saw that every night I got nervous before it, and even the head of the hair department of Mad TV. I would like panic and say, oh my god, I'm gonna forget my lines, and he goes, you realize you're you said that before, like you know, it's like eighty episodes, Like is the final episode? He was like, You've said that for eighty episodes and you've

never forgotten a line. And so so clearly my process like to freak out before. Yeah, And I was like, Okay, this is what I do so like this, and I clearly it must be some kind of excitement. I must kind of like this and I'm just learning, like, oh, it's not gonna kill me. This is Oh, it's right on track. I guess because you're care about being good. It's because you care about doing well and you want to do a great job for yourself and for the audience and for everyone that you're on stage with. So

it's an investment thing. It's one of those things that it's helped I think with with theater. What I like about it is what I like about the nose safety net is like making the eye contact with somebody else on stage. There's something about like the eye contact, having to trust them and then and then truly it's like I'm very bad at meditating, and there's something about like you can't. You have to just be where you are.

You cannot get ahead of yourself because you you will screw somebody else over probably, so like truly just like being there, and that is different. It's also interesting that it's like even some performances that felt like they were the best performances, sometimes the crowd just wasn't into it, or sometimes they went crazy and it was sort of maybe a slap your performance that is not as personal as it feels. That was helpful with stand up, they

helped each other. I love that it's always so different. I would love to do a play. It's fun. It's but you want a short run. You want like a limited and get like it's fun of like a three month in you have like a month of rehearsals, like two weeks of previews and then like six weeks of shows and then like okay, by like I don't think it's them In college and I was always like mad

when like the like six or seven show. It was it was only like a week, you know what I mean in college, only doing like a week, And I was always mad when they were over. And then I was like, yeah, but that for years, like some of these Broadway shows, we had been plaid on the show. And he was like, even though I knew it was like a show that was showcasing me, it's like after a while, it's like you want to move on justifiably. I've never done one that's more than like four months

they were. Meteor Shower was fun because except for one scene, I was on stage the whole time and I'd never had such a big part to play. And Steve Martin was around for like the rehearsals, and you know, he was such a hero of mine. I had albums, I had a poster him on the wall, like I had the best. So that was really like to get to

work with him and it was interesting. Yeah, I will say stand up in my mind, my stand up university what gave me the confidence to go But like and like truly be like, it doesn't matter that I didn't go to Juilliard. They picked me. I've had so much performance on stage. I have alone on stage I know what I'm doing. And this goes back to the anything too.

Probably said that about Amy Schumer and she yes, yes, But this goes back to the anything where it's like, you know, you're it's this thing that like really kind of lit something up in you, was like the seed crystal for for this life that you wanted, and then

you're like how do I get there? And then yeah, this but this I relate to this thing too, where it's like this thing claims on you where you're like, I look for me, it was like I didn't study, you know, any performing arts in college, and like yes, and like that puts me to disadvantage and all this other stuff. But then like I don't know, like there there's everyone has their own differently sized hill to sort of like crest over in order to get to a

place of like, oh no, I can, I can. I can probably do this and do this well because I care about I care somewhat about putting a good quality thing out there. The thing I've learned more and more is is truly, the more I get more specific about what's unique to what what's my little what's my land of the highway, what makes my tail wag what kind of where am I like best service in the world in a way that's like that it may not be important, but I mean even truly pitching this podcast is the

silliest thing. We break down Bachelor episodes. But I've never watched sports or anything, but it was there was something about like wanting to do a community thing of like who's going to the finals, Who's going to the super Bowl?

He was getting banged in a hot tub, Like it's like but that, but that's something that seemingly like completely frivolous, but that like people respond to when you when you do what's sort of unique to and sometimes coming back to stand up, like at first I had my idea of what Bobby told me this to he was like recorded and listen back to where they want to laugh and you're not letting them laugh and you're cutting off tip and it was like and so then and then

I felt like you know, in the beginning, when you're first just trying to put together five minutes, ten minutes, you have your idea of what your act is, but then the audience tells you how they like you and the gift of that and it's like nobody wants for me. It was like nobody wants to hang out with a perfect part, like they like me a little bit of

a mess. It's like Kitty got into the champagne bottle and Kitty wants to play and like a little bit of a dingdong, and there was something it's like your flaws, like the gift of everything I thought was like wrong with me or the most shameful about me is actually what is the most relatable or what people because everybody has a little monster sides too, and that good personal exercise to to find out how to think about the contrast of how you are comfortable on stage and how

you're comfortable acting on stage, and also how you're being responded to on stage. It's an interesting dance or what

people project onto you all the time. Because I'm whatever not to not to bring this back to me, but like I'm exploring this thing now where it's like, oh, whenever, whenever, whenever I whenever I go out, um to do to be in a sketch or whatever, it's like the audience wants me or expects me to be this sassy, like bitchy gay guy and I'm like, but that's not what I am all the time, and I'm trying to like show people different different like you know, little granules of

like myself. But it's like there's like everyone's gonna like work some acrobatic thing, gymnastic thing to like tie me back to that person. I'm like, oh, that's fun. Like I can now I can like put push and pull and tug like that string for I'm not string, but like I I can pull that threats as much as I want, whatever way I want. Well, we all fly

in in certain packages. And I think, particularly in comedy, if you know, like a blonde lady on stage or an Asian man on stage is not necessarily like the it's not the majority, you know, and and so what's fun, know, like for me a stand up to is like like if you're doing a longer set, being able to sort of sneak in darker things or like now like you you have for you like that, you have them liking you. You know you can do that, and then like what can you sneak at? How far can you push it? What?

What else can you get away with? Like the fun of the fun of just refusing to be completely just put in that. Yeah, we have to take a break before. I don't think so honey is actually, well you'll find

out in a second. So we're back. And if you're wondering what I don't think so honey is, um, if you're a reader who forgot or this is your first time listening to this podcast where we have the amazing guest art Marine, I don't think so honey is a sixties second segment where we take something on pop culture and we're just absolutely rail against it. Wouldn't you say, bowen, we really down the tracks, we build the locomotive and we fucking ride that track on the locomotive. Were okay?

A different way to rail? Something many and actually it's rule culture number nine. There's so many toiling. But but um, you know it is has been customed, has become custom that I do go first, and I could. I think you could? I think you could? You would you like to tie me? Because I have something? I got the phone in hand. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey. People who criticize me for using the word like too

much when I don't think so honey. Anyone who criticizes anyone for using like too much. Honey. It's modern times. It's a colloquialism, and it is how we express ourselves. Also, seriously, you were going to die on this boring ass hill, bitch. Do you think that you sound like innovative saying this? You wasting breath talking about how you don't like people saying the word like is such so much more of a waste of breath than the reps I take before

and after the word alike and my many sentences. Sorry, I'm honey, Sorry, I'm influenced my youth culture. Sorry. And you know what if my godmother, whose name is Alicia Silverstone, not but in my life, says like all the time in the classic film Clueless. And here's what I was saying.

If I don't think so, honey, if you think that that saying like is not intelligent, because I it's so funny that I ran out of gas talk I'm done, And it's so funny that I ran out of gas talking about how actually I'm smart even though I say like, and I had nothing. Now I have somebody slid into my d M s and shame me for saying like on a podcast, And I just wanted to rip her throat out. It's so funny because like every single language in the world, Every language in the world has a

filler word like that. Every language has that, and like, why are you like it's trying to say that it's bad or that it's like the indicator of it that like someone's dumb if they don't even hear it. I don't hear either, anybody I don't even hear And you know what, all all it does is put me in my head in a way. It's like, oh, do I sound stupid or she sends you a lengthy shaming email. It works, and it's like, I don't think so had Nick.

We got read on the on the reviews on the podcast app because of it, and it's I understand it because if it's really bothering you didn't, Yeah, I get it, like and I'll try to make the adjustment. But it's just so funny how people equate it with like lack of intelligence, because I think that's really a first thought, like as I say, like again and now I'll be in my head, I didn't notice. But it's interesting that people just want to equate it with lack of intelligence

so quickly. Is it really that simple? And I'm telling you from Cash, she is simple. From the tent to Americ Cash. Just get on the like train because it is more fun. Yeah, it's also it's it's it's sort of insinuating that I don't have interesting things to say. But honey, you're listening, you enough to comment on the podcast. But that's also could be because they like. But I

just wanted to like. I just I said it. I just wanted to discuss that as a thing, because it's so interesting that people, really, they would make you feel stupid for for just trying to express yourself. It's so interesting. It's I rejected, I reject all. I don't care as long as you guys rejected then completely reject and feel angry about it on behalf of you. I think that was very solid. I thank wish. I wish it had

ended strongly um as I always do. But the matter is, my point is made, and that's really all we try to do on this pod. Hey, bow and Yang, what about you? I'm ready, I've got something. Okay, so this is Bowen Yang. I don't think so, honey, And like he starts now, I don't think so, honey, mirrors, Sweetie,

I don't like what I'm seeing. And it's not because I think it's because after quarantine, like the mirrors in your house really start to play tricks on you, and then you know, and then I see some spittle I see I see some like little bits of gross stuff on the actual service, and then when I wipe it down, it feels um. This is no. It canna be more specific. I don't think so many bathroom mirrors because I get the toothpaste on it, I get the face I get the face wash on it, and then I feel crazy.

I feel like a dirty caveman for having to walk like wipe down my mirror every other day. Is this the frequency we're all working like we're all working with right now? Because I'm doing it every other day, I feel disgusting. Maybe I am disgusting and I'm gonna I'm

gonna say something and this is kind of gross. But I have been having to bleach the damn porcelain bowl ever since quarantine because I'm I'm taking like really like powerful ships and it's it claims now and now all my stuff is dirty and I feel like a dirty person. And that's one that I'm really happy that you've brought this up, because well, two things, same thing with the toilet bowl, and the other thing is your mirrors in your house would make you think you were an absolute

film exactly, And I know I'm not. I cleaned every Sunday I cleaned, and I thought, like, Brad, what has But I mean, truly, it's so disgusting. It's so what happened here? What did I do? What kind of like did I did I eat bath salt and like rip somebody's face? Like like did I go crazy? Like what sometimes happened in here? I have sometimes I have to be like, I know I didn't come on this mirror. So what's this come? What could become? What's this come?

It's actually real culture number ninety six. What's what's come? But bowen? Yes, powerful? And I think during quarantine, we're all noticing that our mirrors are not are not what they should be because what elst we wants to look at. I've also never seen so many zits on myself and like just a quarantine acne, I cannot I just like this looks flawless. Oh my god, thank you so much. I put some make up off for you guys, I mean, like I wake up. I don't know if because I'm

like sleeping on my face. I don't know if it's anxiety. I don't know, but I'm not liking some of it, like the stress breakout. Engineer Doug says it's toothpaste, and he's exactly right. He's exactly right. It is toothpaste. That it's actually that come that come on your mirror is toothpaste. It's actually rutal culture number forty nine, Come on, mirror is toothpaste. Now, it's interesting that that's forty one, but that answers a question that's set in. Yes, right, you know,

I don't make the rules. I just I just make the list. That's fine, that's are you ready for a ready? Okay, I can't wait for this, Marines. I don't think so honey and her time starts now. I don't think so honey, and this is not going to be a popular thing to have a problem with. I don't think so honey. Shared plate restaurants, okay. I do not mind a family style.

I do not mind a Buka de bacco. I don't mind going to like a Chinese restaurant and getting like, okay, we're gonna get like three We're gonna get this and this and this and three things. I do not like some I don't think so honey. So I'm like, oh, I have to go out with my lawyer. My publish is my Oh you want do you want the beat? Sell it? Okay? So what do you do? You know you want the you want the Calumari? Okay, So we'll get what and then you'll have one of my beats.

And because they come in their tiny it's not shairplate, disregular size plates. But then you have to like negotiate with like, oh no, I'm not beating, weat, I'm not eating. I don't think so, honey. I am a grown ass adult. I will pay for my own stuff. Why can't I just get what I want to get? And I have your dirtiest fingers into my tiny non share plates, not family stuff, I don't think, so honey, shared plates? Thank you, COVID take it away, by bye. You know what? I

love my lawyer a set you called my birthday. I don't care what he wants at a restaurant. I want my own thing. I want my own thing. I don't want to go. Okay, so we're gonna get one beat and then you guys want the you guys want the okay like you guys want the the aruga with vinegar, okay, Okay.

So when you know there's always two whole dishes on the table that you want nothing to do with, and you know there's one you want so badly, and you don't want to have to share eight ways, and you don't want to look like an asshole, you're like, if you're like, I'm on my own, Like I how about we all get our own plates and if there's one thing we're dying to try, we'll get one or two and put it in the middle. That's fine, So open to sharing, but not everything. And also good luck being

full after eating at a shared plays restaurant. And the bill I really hope, and the bill is so the bill is so high there because they're And again I don't mind a family style. Family style. You give me a mountain of meatball, you give me a mountain of means bit, a pile of pasta. Great you. Yes, I love the pable room. The room. I went on a double day there. He was not that he was the other day Alan Tuteck from Fireflying I went, I dragged Alan Tuteck as like a double day to Bugabapo and

he was like, why are we here? And I was so embarrassed. Family friend, I mean, I have pretty good friends, like pretty good wit wait, I have one to three. Name your name a cool friend that we have not mentioned. One two three Amy Man a man on the Magnolia soundtrack of the Magnolia Soundtrack of the Magnolia, The Magnalia Soundtrack. Molly Shannon, Molly Shannon. Okay, so I have a story about Molly Shannon. I saw Countess Luanne Live with Molly Shannon.

Oh my god, Okay, can I just say I've so I got to do watching his live in January and I knew I was doing it and I was not a Bravo girl, but I went with Lauren when we went with her when she did watch I Have His Life, so like they were like, you need they gave me, just as you did on Survivor, which I will watch. They gave me. So I watched New York, New Jersey, Orange County, below, Deck Below, Dick Sailing, and so I'm watching all of them now. I am so New York

is my favor. How was how was Louie. How was Louis And you went with you went with Molly. I went because I went with Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider. I was a writer on the second season of the other two and they were going the best I mean

great folks. Um. So they were going to the Countess Luanne, and they invited me to go, and they were like, also, Molly's coming, And then I was like gagged because obviously I love Maloshan and knew she was knew I would meet her eventually because I was writing for the show, but going to see lou with her as a whole other deal. And the funny thing that happened with Luanne was she comes out, she's like, you know, performing doing her things. She's let's just say this, she's definitely a star.

So there's a there was a point where, um, you get to ask questions, like like she asked questions about everything. And Ben rim Alaer, who directed her show, we know him and I got the mike and I had spoken with him before, and he goes to Countcilu and he goes lou it's Matt Rogers from Los culture Ristas and she goes, oh, of course, my god, yeah. I literally she goes, Darling, how are you? It is so good to see it. We've not met Launce in our life.

She's a politician. She's like a full politician. I was like little bro. I literally was like a little girl. It's so good to see you. Okay, So let's get to it like like we had, like we had. Don't you understand why she got so mad that they were screaming Giovanni, I don't understand the problem with that. Why was it awful that? Why was it about that? Grenda was saying that? Also, I'm loving she was Leah. Here's what I'll say about Leah. I love Leah on the show,

Leah in Life. Uestions about Leah's politics or a little question, okay, question, okay, I'll go for the Federalists deep diving. You have to you have to watch Potomac. Oh, that's also just told the Potomac somebody else in Potomac. I'm gonna write that down now. To Orange County was great. Tamer crying in the bushes Please Hills is really good this season so far, very much enjoying. Literally insane, what is insane? Her husband explaining what he did for a living at the dinner party.

That was one of the most shocking things I've seen. And and and they're getting followed. I'm like, what if they actually are? Like what if they're not just crazy? Like well, I mean if what he says is true, then I guess or they're just revealing like some sort of real craziness. There splitting atom with sound. Why can't you cure your cancer? Is your friend? Why can't you cure your friend cancer? I was like, and then you you look at Denise and You're like, is he serious?

And then you get that she believes it. Yeah, She's like, are they following us? I loved it? I mean, did you up up? So good? So good? I have to say, how do you feel about the new Southern friend? That's like, I thought you were boring? Okay, So I would say that Sutton is playing a season three arc on her third episode of the show, and it is bold. I don't know why she feels so comfortable so soon, but I'm kind of obsessed with her and her top knot

at the dinner and also that she's obsessed with place cards. Yes, I want that bag under dollar back, her coup tour, her ready to wear all of it. She looks. Also, I will say this, when Teddy Mellencamp did not know what ready ready to wear men, I was like, get her out of here. Honestly, I don't think so, honey, Teddy Mellencamp doesn't know what ready to wear. I know what ready to wear is, and you don't you thank you? Yeah, it's like literally ready to there is your whole war.

Drabe art Dubs rt dub was truly crazy. But I believe that overall the housewives are kind of firing on all cylinders this year, and you love to see it. You know what, I fought New Jersey and then I ended up loving New Jersey. I fought Joe Gorga. Now I love Joe Gorga. I'm all in. I Real Housewives of New Jersey is a little dark and real to

me from Long Island, and I like those women. I'm from Suffolk County, so I'm from ice Lip, but I grew up on the on the South Shore, so I know all those like Italian girls who grew up into the Real Housewives in New Jersey. I mean, where's massive people? A lot of girls shure, Yeah, I mean I just know exactly what kind of like Trump voter like okay, like Italian Trump voter that produces and Rhode Island has has a I love like the real flo. It's just there's a nice I love like this, so d the

Salty East Coast. I'm never gonna win in a fight, but they will kill your car. You have to go fight them under the water. So that's why they're so good with fighting with words and personal attacks, because they're never going to beat you physically, but they will kill your soul. Um. Can I be a hooker? Be a hooker? Yes, it's not out yet. It's here. I wrote about your book. It's called Little Miss Little Compton. I have braces, races made this in sixth grade. There she is. It's a

comedic memoir. Um and yeah, Anna's reading it's it comes. If you pre order, um, you can free. It's all about the pre orders, honey. If you want to get about porder, if you're trying to get on the if you're trying to get on the bestseller list, you have to It's all about the pre orders, um and so and so. If you email a receipt of your book to Rose Podcast at gmail dot com, we're gonna be giving away five T shirts and a puzzle coming up, so send us the receipts. And um, I'm the result

of two hasty decisions. My grandparents married the day after they met, and my parents were co workers in Manhattan, and they never dated, and one New Year's Eve they got engaged on a dare and they got married six years six months later, and they stayed married for fifty years. And then they moved to Little Compton and raised my brother and I got to get this book, little Little Miss Little Compton, mistle Compton, a memoir by Ard Marine. And what day does that come out? Come out? It

comes out in September. But we have a nice quote from Chelsea Handler. Well, this book is just we have a nice story book, a nice quote from Amy Schumer, Molly Shannon, guess all the all the great, all about the pre orders, and then you email Rose Podcast at email dot com. Yeah. I have to say congratulations on writing that book and also congratulations for being that little

n forward by Debbie Ryan. Debbie Ryan wrote me, she wrote the four word might B F F A T L. Debbie, I wanted to say congratulations on the book that's coming up. Congratulations on everything you're doing, and also congratulations on being that little four year old girl who wants to go see Annie and mad or dreams come true. That's the title. That's the title of the book. Was about like that little girl from a little Little Miss Sunshine and like and that. When I got the call that I booked

this pilot, I felt like my react. I felt like the girl from Little Miss Sunshine, and I became a little miss little Content. That's so great, amazing, We were so we were so excited to have you on and this is such an incredible episode when you guys go to Rhode Island with me and Debbie Ryan, Yes, I'm buying my ticket and if this also is an intro to me meeting Debbie Ryan and Bowen get into me Debbie Ry Debbie. We meet Brian, Sofie know we love Brian.

We shared a dressing room at I'm Best. He's the Brian and I share. We share, We exchange numbers out of no audition. Now where do you live? What town do you live? In Hollywood? In Hollywood, I'm I'm well, I almost just said literally where I lived, and that's not a good idea on a podcast, But I live in Hollywood and I love it. I live. Let's just say this. I live right by the Hollywood Tower. Let's just say that. Okay, he gave his he gave his address basically the Arden. This is this is the thing

with Arden Marine. You've got okay, uh, stage actress, sketch actress, stand up um like sitcom legend, and then you've got reality show judge RuPaul's Drag Race Raja season. You've checked every show base box and this is what this is. This is Amazing Race. Loser. Please you'll probably win. Oh

my god, I would be. I mean, on your team is someone who almost went to space, So I mean that's the big He and I feel like we both have the same level of not being willing to break an ankle for it that I feel like we would be mellow. We just do it. I'm gonna I'm gonna, yeah, exactly. Stay tuned to see keep your eye on Amazing Race to see if that ever happens, and pre order that damn book. Why don't you guys please watch The Bachelor

and come on my podcast start. So, I actually I wanted to get into this, but we are into your heart like I wanted to get into like the Bachelor of it all. I watched the Rachel Lindsay season and fell in love with her, and then she was dead to me at the last episode. We hate her. I'm living my best life and said she lost all of us. She married the guy with che camp plants. He's a mom's boy. She truly did, and she she had who was literally the best, the best man I can think of,

the hottest person on our agreed. So will you come back? You said, my friendship rose just to come play with us. Yeah, I got a bone up on my Bachelor Tube. I did watch. I watched Michel in season as well, but I yes, I will. I will close the gap of Okay, I will send I will, we will send what to watch too. We can learn you on Okay there They're going to be there. To readers, I love you both

are really in fans of both of you. This is gonna joy to see you and you know Bowen, what is how do we end every episode bo with a song? With a song? Here we go, that's sun. I'll comment to tomorrow. I'm gonna be controversial and say my favorite song from the show is maybe Bye Bye Nice