"Honey Don't Skip!" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

I still have not gotten enough listens in so I form my opinion, which is that I'm obsessed and this is such an exciting new direction. But I am like, I need to like listen to it maybe five more times before I'm like, yes, I'm ready to be off book. Now you know what I mean. I need to be off book. I think this is well clear me the song of the summer period period and around the fourth or fifth list, and you really understand what we're dealing with here? What is it? What is it? What is

it that we're dealing with. We're dealing with the sea change, We're dealing with Beyonce renaissance. We're dealing with sweat on Me Daddy, We're dealing with this coming on both in the club and outside on the block, party, on the field, wherever we are, at the barbecue. We're dealing with this coming on at graduations, weddings, at funerals. Children will be children. So this is a moment in culture. Oh my god,

and I'm saying it no, I agree. And the way that she gave us the like club house spiritual successor to Dolly Partons, that's history. So much is going on here, break it down. So much is going on. Well, I can for a nine five spiritual successor to come out in the yeo. I mean, times have changed and we've needed this. Can you believe there hasn't been a song that's about how like, Wow, it's hard out there, Like they worked me so damn hard. They worked me so

damn hard. Capitalism is labor is in a crisis right now. She said, the labor workers need a song, the queers need a song, America needs a song. The summer needs a song, and to drop it on the solstice? Which which what? Which you're saying? Which? Which? Which I'm saying? Which the woman? Which is a noun? Have you have we discussed this yet? I bet not, because the rumor is she was originally going to release three albums at

the same time. Act one, which was gonna be well, okay, I don't have the numerical assignments here, but it was going to be a house in a dance album in one of country album and the other, and then the third album was R and B. I say, ain't on me soon on me another Giants. Well, I think what we're getting is that's the act one, Act two, Act three. I think it'll be three acts, just like the best movies, just like all the best movies. Actually real culture number six,

three acts, just like best movies. And I think we're just gonna get it like perfectly distributed it maybe throughout a year. Are we thinking summer solstice? Winter Solstice? Really hard to say solstice with Crests strip and shout out to Crest Wide Strips shout out. I mean, have you gotten any sort of like deal from them or shipment or you know what's funny, I wasn't even thinking about that and so you just said that. But wow, the way it quest Fight Strips, Crest Wise Strips have really

done great things for me. It's just such a funny specific like you're you're, you're, you're not only you're not just name dropping a brand. You're like, you're getting into the vertical. You're getting into the actual product itself, the item. Well, first of all, let's just say it it works. Okay. It's like when when Jennifer Hudson said, wait watchers, because it works. I could say the same for Crest White strips, genuinely.

And that's why when we were on set shooting Fire Island and I will say, improvised line, can anyone trade a Crest White strip for a prep pill? And the reason I said that is because we in the gay community know how valuable a prep pill is and that you also don't need to take one every day. Well, remember because do you remember I was just talking about this earlier. Do you remember when I when I did that line and Margaret turned to me and she was like,

I love that. I think that. I think that should be the one. I was like, and then we were talking and I was like, you know sometimes I skip a day, and her eyes went wide and she just goes, honey, don't skip. How do you don't You can you can? I've talked to you. You can't. Doctors and pharmacists to say if you take it. If you're off a couple of days week, it's totally fine. Just don't make a habit of make a habit of it. Don't make a habit of skipping. Try to be as diligent as possible. Honey,

don't skip. I can't even honey, don't skip. It was just so Margaret and her like like ferocious Margaret delivery. But for her to like be giddy at a joke that you've written on the spot the miracle of my life.

I mean, look whatever, I'm just saying. We we we've talked so much about the film, and I guess we should say this is our first culture catch up in a really long time, in months, and I'm really happy that Beyonce has come in and said I'm the culture now because sort of with that without saying too much, like we've sort of been out there with this movie sort of being like, hey, like check out our culture, and I haven't been watching any culture. I haven't been

seeing a damn thing. I've been We've been so busy bow. I guess if Couswives counts as culture, a lot of the readers won't. So it hasn't really been giving like I needed to give I get what you're saying. We'll remember, we got a lot of hype that the Beverly Hills premiere was going to be one of the best premieres ever, and it was good. I just don't think it was like exciting because it was mostly just sad and troubling

to watch someone's house get broken into, you know. Yeah, I mean I think did it give like peak housewives, like they're ship going on in the life of a housewife, like we are with her like, but after that, I mean, what we're dealing with is I hate when Beverly Hills is like this, where the conflict is what is the conflict? Like this thing of Crystal being like Sutton said something

dark and then not saying what it was. It's like, okay, well then now we're all watching this as entertainment, and the entertainment we're supposed to be consuming is circling the fact that there is no content because you won't say what it is, that there's no context, and then it's just I don't know what's going It's really hard to keep track of. Is it's like Sun said something dark and then it turns into well, Kristen lost fourteen friends

because of something she did. It's like, okay, well what neither side or no party is being specific. I will say it is iconic and so funny to me that they keep saying the words fourteen friends because this is this is a thing in girl culture and let's talk about this numbers and people. Clicky girl culture is knowing exactly how many people are in your friend group. Oh, let's say that. It's like we have fourteen girlfriends, not fifteen,

not thirteen, fourteen, fourteen and girlfriends. No, it's clicky mean girl culture of all ages, girls of all ages, women of all ages, dames, And it's a red flag. It's a red flag because you know what, I like Crystal Kung Minkoff. But I do get the sense that she is high schoolish. I mean, I know that girl from like my Sunday Chinese school, you know. And anyway, okay,

I think that's Housewives give it. That's all I mean, literally, bo on the on this the week of Beyonce releasing break my song on the Solstice, That's actually all we can say about the Housewives. That's all we can say about the Housewives. What do you think of the fact that Beyonce in her storied career has chosen now to call an album renaissance. It's iconic behavior. Renaissance is a renaissance?

Is what is the definition of renaissance? It's this is something we should really talk about on Is it actually it's re birth? That was that was sort of iconic us naissance birth? Oh, that's interesting to know. Did you confirm that for yourself on Google? Just do well here, I am sort of looking at it on Google. Well, it says the Renaissance is a period European stark in the transition from Middle Agist mardenity and covering the fifteen

and sixteen centuries. And in terms of the actual word itself, I guess I'd have to look on the disambiguation for that one. Sure, sometimes the disambiguation has the meat culture, that's what that's whatever is that girls girl sometimes tis the meat and I found that to be true many times. Here's the thing. I'm not even going to look this up because I'm not going to talk to you a native French speaker, not native, but thinking, well, you know

what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. Quebec, Montreal, Quebec is not native. It's so the same same root word as naissance. Yes, I was not born in a French speaking place, and so my native tongue, I would say, is Mandarin Chinese because it was the first language I spoke. There you go, even though it is the language I am at least proficient in. Now. Isn't that so tragic? Oh? I see you just carrying on with your parents speaking.

I'm having more trouble carrying on with my parents. Um. It's just wow, that's that's it's giving immigrant experience in a nutshell. Um, you know, losing her mother tongue anyway, speaking of a renaissance more like. Okay, So I think the influences are far reaching. I think, of course Crystal Waters. Robin asked. But I'm saying, Um, I don't mean the influences. I think, um, one of the influences are like from the British folks bread. Yes, it does seem like there

will be a lot of difference. She will evoke all kinds of music and that's exciting to me. I mean extremely, and she always really has. But then I think, you know, I think that she had something so specific she needed to get off her chest with lemonade that I felt like we were really living in an emotion in a specific musical world throughout that entire and she also, you know, she's always sort of dipped into other johns, I mean, Daddy Lessons. Obviously that's a flat out country song, Uh,

don't Hurt Yourself as like a rock song. She's got it all in her And it's kind of odd that because you think, like, oh, what's she gonna do. We've seen her do everything, and then it's like circling in on this house idea and not only does it feel exactly right for her, but it also feels like something that she can be at the forefront of in terms of bringing it back. And yet, you know, we've all been feeling like it's a moment for house music again,

and now she's saying it is period. That is period. I think like the why the greater world has not keyed into house music being back yet, and she is the person to bring it back for everybody. You know what I'm saying, Well, Beyonce is monoculture. Beyonce is one of the last pieces of the monoculture. Like, moms are going to hear about this song and they would not, and they would not. I think that big freed to I mean, what a what a moment that that she's

she's a She's truly reached the highest heights. She she did back and Lemonade, of course, but this is like this is she's very involved in the whole thing. I mean, release your Wiggles is in the biggest song of the year. It's crazy. We never thought, we never thought released the released her Wiggles was going to be out. I was gonna hear that outside of like Brooklyn Bowl when I saw remember that, what was did you did you go to that concert? I was there with you? Oh my god,

that was that was so unbelievable funny. I mean just also like like when she has released your trade Beyonce said, Queens in the front, Doms in the back said, I still have to give a close read to the lyrics. That that's how behind I am. What drugs do you think Beyonce has done? Okay, I said that I thought she did ketamine, and the group chat tore me apart. They said, there's no way Beyonce is doing horse pills. I was like, I think there's a deep and girl

not doing horse pills. She shot up. She showed up on the horse and the promo materials. That was a note that was not too ketamine. She I bet you. Beyonce tried a little paste of iver mecton back in the fall. Baby, she was like, I feel connected to horses. Let me let me see what this is like. She said, let me see what this is like. She wrote it on that horse into the disco and she said, me and this horse, you know what we both desire. Kay, that little white bag with a K on it. I

think Beyonce has done ka. I think Beyonce has done coke. I think she and Jay did coke and didn't like it. They've definitely done trooms. They've definitely done I think they may have not done LSD, but they definitely done something natural. I think they've Yes, I think they did LSD and Beyonce, around our three or hour four of the trip, sat up straight and said, I'm doing a visual album. This is like I think it was yeah way back. I

think they obviously smoked reefer mm hmm. They love their booze. She loves with it was Beyonce who loves whales. What's whales? Oh? You mean when Destiny's Child got stoned. That famous interview where they were stoned. But you know what they say they weren't high. That's a full lie. They were. Absolutely they were. They were on another planet. I know what my favorite animal would be a whale. It's so pure,

it's so beautiful. And then Michelle, I want to be cheetah and the other girls are like, oh yeah, you are a cheetah and she's like because proud, and I was like, these are girls are you have to do? And this is this is not going to be like the digital black face. Matt has to do all three girls in the in a video. Now, we'll take this out. I don't take it out. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not I'm not going to do it. But if any white gay boy could, it's Matt Rogers. Well, coming

from you of the queer POC, we sad it. We can't. We can't. I I took an end of bole layer you did. Oh that's okay. You're on vacation. I'm on vacation. I have not been desponding to the GCS, unfortunately, have not. And also it's been such a moment of culture. I mean, so have you been at least experiencing this song? Out there clearly, not a couple of times. This is what I'm saying. I'm I don't think I've listened more than four times, which feels insane to me. I can't believe

in starting off the new era this way. You know me, I've I've been on the front lines every single other era. That's not true. What do you mean? Can I tell you one one era you were not on the front line? Spot are you're talking about? Was Beyonce? Yes, okay, I think I'm talking about in general because I was. I was the person on this podcast that showed you driver's license. Oh yeah, no, I'm It's impossible to be on the front lines of all the dolls and all the eras.

It's impossible. It's actually real culture number thirteen. It's impossible on the front lines of all the eras. Now we're simply humans. I I feel like I've always been there for the lead single, and this time I don't know, I've I've been so whatever. I like. We we traveled yesterday and we were just sitting around having deep conversations like we have not had time. We have not we really have? You mean? I mean yea? I well, God,

the travel nightmare up yesterday. I traveled on Monday, Monday June, and it was a night mayor travel day, a delta. But I eventually did get back here to Los Angeles and here for a couple of days, and I was sort of nervous because I was like, if I'm in the air when this song comes out, oh no, no no, because you know, the WiFi wasn't working boo oh, of course not and why was I'm just I'm just checking my phone because I thought, oh, I gotta be real. If I be real happens in the sky, I'm gonna

lose it. That really would not have been good. That really would not have been good if you were be real last night real that's not on the planet, in the in the current states that I was. And then again, I don't think why people wanted to see me be real at that moment. Okay, that's not at my finest of the plane. Hold it right there. It's counterproductive. I know, I know, I know, I want to see this is the thing. I know, like people will not want to

be real when they are in a distressed state. But yeah, but once in your life, once and once this year, I want to see be real that you took during the real when you didn't want to necessarily take the photo take to be real? Is everything? Okay, we just got in my text from we Oh what did it say? It's about the show? And wait, can we say but first, let me take out these strips Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, well no you had I think you had like five minutes, but I but I put them on like five minutes

before they're out. Listen to all the readers and publicists that came to our last Culture Racist Culture Awards show, Thank you for contributing to one of the best nights of our life. Yeah, that was so much fun. It was. I can't believe how much fun I had. I didn't really think. I don't think I knew what to expect. I just knew it was gonna be I was like, this is gonna be stupid, this is gonna be fun, period, and it doesn't have to be anything more than that.

But it was just this reciprocal joy that I think really hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm still not over it. I cried in therapy the next day about about everybody who listens and everybody who came to the show and about Matt. I cried about the friendship. I cried on stage. I know, I know, and you know me, I'm not. It takes me a little bit. I hold. It's not withholding. I don't find it to be a flaw. You're a slow process. I just think

it hits me to on its own time. And it was so it's so funny that difference between us, because yes, you are very like sort of like stoic, and you you were, you were really receiving and then to hear that you had their emotional realization later. Meanwhile, throughout Press on Fire Island, like one or two days into press, I'm crying and all the interviews. I broke down like several times in interviews and they were like okay, and

I was just like, I'm sorry, just emotional. Cried. At the end of the show, I am so I've been really emotional for like weeks, and like I just feel like so grateful to everybody and like how much love

like we felt, because really that's what it was. It was like a love fest and we got to do all this dumb ship and every single dumb thing we put into that show was met with so much love and and everyone just got it, and we feel like, how lucky are we that we get to share language with all of you that like listen to the show. And I have been loving this for such a long time, and it's so at your time is the most valuable thing.

So I feel like this is why it's so special when people listen to any podcast is because it is inviting whoever makes that podcast into your life for like an extended amount of time. Um, And it just I don't know, it was really really nice. It was this again reciprocal thing, like it was given to us, we try to give it to you in all these stupid ways. UM. A lot of people are asking like, are we going to stream it? Are we going to do something with it? We did film it. We don't know what we're doing

with it yet. Um. It really was not prepared to be a live episode of the podcast. It was sort of a thing that we were doing with Lincoln Center. I hope you guys understand that. Um, but we want to do something with it, and we did shoot it and shout the funk out to our unbelievable producer. Her name is Lauren Mandel, remember the name. She's gonna run

this whole world in about two seconds. Who took bowen and eyes like impulses and ideas about this and just like our text about things that could possibly happen, and like us filling in the Google doc that she made like and just made it all happen and run so seamlessly. Can you imagine? We were saying, can you imagine if we tried to do that ourselves? It would have been

a wreck. It would have been a wreck. No. They literally we're like, okay, you guys can like just let us Like they were like, you guys sent us the run of show and like let us know what you're thinking. And I immediately was like, Matt, we have to hire someone, to hire some we cannot do this and I know just the person um and God, Lauren is a worker of miracles. I will. I've never been unimpressed by her.

I've known her for a while now. She is one of just one of the most capable, smartest, most effective people. And really I was, I like, I had to run into this production meeting when she was running it before the show started, and the way she talks to everybody is like so respectful, and I'm like, God, how it can be done this way, someone who like just understands everyone's needs and what the whole project itself needs. Yeah,

I I can't believe it. And also talk about like you know, you as someone who's like doing the show and like the face of the show, like all you want is for that to feel like that's the vibe and the energy going into the show, and like it really sucks when, like you hear about like other things production shows out there where there's bad energy, because it

does doesn't need to be like that, you know. And and it's so it was so rewarding to be a part of something that was so fun and received well but also felt good and positive in the lead up. We weren't stressed out like and god knows like we had been busy before that, so we really like we needed help. So that's true collaboration and that rocked. What was your favorite part? I think my favorite part was singing Driver's License with Josh and Aaron. Yeah. I'll never

forget that. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget the way Cola school. It made me laugh during not during that, we'll both during their acceptance speech, and I can't wait to I don't think anyone on Instagram took this video.

But when they presented for the Tina Turner Legend Award, we mostly gave everybody, um really quick presenter copy that we wrote, and then everybody sort of embellished onto it, made it their own in the best way, truly, every no flops, everyone no, everyone crushed and um but cold schooler. Really all we gave cold school because it was the last it was the last category we got to. In terms of writing the copy, all we wrote was Matt, I wrote this is a place for legends. Okay, I

know you wrote that, Matt for legends, okay. And here are the nominees for the Tina Turner Legend Award. We just gave that to Hole. We were like, we don't know what to do with this. Make it whatever you want. And then they wrote the funniest most funniest person in America performance of an Awards Show presentation ever. It was like Cole was giving, like Alice Ripley the entire night, like giving, giving, giving feverish Awards attendee, like just it's

the award, It's awards night. It's such a fun character though, and like we don't really I think we as like comedians who are stupid and love awards show culture, like, we don't get to perform that that often, and Cole and we and Cole took that assignment and ran with it and did the best version of it. Also, Patti Harrison was miss Cultural and the event was with her with that war was really heavy and every single time she came at it just looked heavier and she was

really she looked so much pain. And it was also that it was a star. What a star are Patty Harris? Then? Honestly, and then we have we we have to mention that Taylor Swift sent in videos to our show, sent in an original, an original comedy bit. She was like, okay, um, I guess I'll pull a glass of wine out of a baking tray and like, we just said, just record an acceptance speech. And then she sent it back and then you were with I texted her, we got the videos.

We were screaming, and then I was like, Taylor, you nailed it. And then she goes she was like, I wasn't sure about the tone, so this is good to hear. And I was like, she started, she's she's she's an artist. She she's asking about tone and he knows. And not only did our a live audience love it, but it went viral on Twitter amongst the Swifties. And let's have

this conversation. Do we believe that there is an easter egg for Taylor's version that was in the acceptance speeches at the last Cultures Cultural Awards And take that sentence in for a second. So fucking funny. So I was with you. We watched the videos for the first time on my computer, right and you walked away. I was in shock. We needed to just we were in shock.

But I watched it again, that first one for the Taylor Swift Award where she passes by the alleged big easter egg of a little chalkboard that says secret Sessions Nashville. I paused the video. You thought you knew to pause. Wow, you're really looking for you don't remember this? You were you were after the sid I was like, wait a minute, Like I saw it before anyone else. I said, wait a minute. I stopped it. What's that? And I was

it was truly out of a movie. I was like enhanced picture and then I mean it said what it's said? And I was like, what does this mean? And I was like, did she just leave that up there the whole time? Since I don't, I don't think anything is an accident. No, as she the chalk looks too clean, it looks like it was freshly written. I was like, this is something. And the house was not necessarily giving Nashville. The house was giving Los Angeles Hampton's. The lighting was

not Southern. You know there's there's southern lighting. It was not giving rustic. I don't think we would have received a video like this during the Red Arrow. Let's just say that. Okay, So there's a few things that people are zoning in. One the color of her vest, giving the vehicle, giving out of the woods, giving giving that that that wildest dreams. TikTok. This is when you're supposed to do your whiteships. By the way, okay, you already took thank you. Also, the length of her hair, it's

giving the bob. Had she and yes, had she taken her hair out, it would have been about because she was giving bangs, right mm hmmm. I don't think there were as many Easter eggs in the second video that, which is what is what is interesting to me that she kept that one pretty sparse. Well, then some people online are actually going too far, which is that, Well, you noticed that she accepted the awards for Baking Cookies and the Wildest Dreams Enchanted mash up from the tour,

and I have to something. We chose that, We chose those, so so that is those were the winners that we picked, and we should say we picked all the winners for the Cultural awards. So that was not her being like, yes, I'll accept the award for this and this. We chose those because those were we felt the winners of the Best Taylor Swift and Best Taylor Swift Awards, respectively, So

that was not her. That was not an easter confirmed confirmed, confirmed, although I do think releasing albums in November is very Taylor. Although we it should have been releasing albums in October or November. Should it have been, because all the way from debut all the way up to I want to say, it was all October releases. Reputation was the first November release, then the one after that was um read. I thought November was like her thin it's October, it's end of October.

Well that actually the nominee was releasing albums in the fall. And the changes. There was some error in translation where it became releasing albums in November. Wait, I'm scared what. We don't know how it happened. We don't miss translate ourselves. We do not. I don't know what happened. Maybe it was our flop producer Lauren Mandel. I just think that it was obvious to me that it was going to be and she's been really thing while the streams in

this love. I feel it's pretty obvious and I think that, but I guess here's my question to you. Do you think that any part of what she did in that video was intentional? And of course it was intentional she put them together, But in terms of releasing an Easter Egg, do you think we have an Easter Egg in our videos? I think the Easter egg the only one that is likely in Easter is the chalkboard. Okay, not that's not

the hair length. No, it's just the chalkboard, just because it looks recently written and not like it was eight years old, because the album wildly years whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We'll let me sit with that for a second. Hold on, that's an eight year old album. Yeah, I guess it is holy show. I uh, I think that is the

only intentional thing. Um, But I just think it's really funny that well, first of all, our mentions are fucking chaos right now because Pop anytime Pop Crave tags us laugh, the replies are fucking unhinged and this actually is terrifying. And the swifties are always, always, always going strong. But some of these other standoms are kukuba bananas. I mean, uh, to be involved in swifty culture in this way, it's aspirational, it's aspirational, it's thrilling, and it's also opened my eyes

up to the underbelly. I mean definitely the world, definitely the world. But I have to say, like the decisiveness which they were tweeting with which they were tweeting cookies, she make cookies at this time at the listening party while the streams coming. I yeah, I mean like it's it's it's really really interesting to me. So do you think that Beyonce saw that Taylor announced stuff of the Cultural Awards and so she said we have to move up my Yeah, she got jealous at the coture. We

readers and policists have to understand. We were sitting on the deck in Provincetown, like putting the show together, and we were like, did we get the video from Lisa Coudro? We did, okay? And what are we at with Taylor? Taylor She's She's coming here? And we received Canda Stiller Baskett's video. Yet did we we have She's It's coming? We was in hours great and so in terms of the show order, we were putting together this real ass Awards show. It was so funny it was and an

experience I will never forget. And we performed Cool for the Summer, which was a thrill which no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't new it was me I came into Really it wasn't that at one point did And that's my fault because I kept wanting to change it. Oh, let's let's shout out our wonderful musical David David dabbin Legend Arrangement. Legend was working on almost all of the Jimmy Awards until very recently and has arranged so many wonderful shows Beetlejuice,

Funny Girl, so many wonderful shows. Um. He was so fantastic to work with and nailed it and a great feel like like a show, like a truly great energy, you know what I mean, just like and that's the thing too, is it's like when you're making changes like to something like that. Like for me, it's like if I was never told like, oh, we need to change the key, I feel like I'd have a fucking but

like he he was just like yep. And that's that's when you realize, like people that are true musical geniuses like they to me are like the first of all hottest people. I get so turned on when someone is like a crazy good music brain works like that. Yeah, It's just there's something about that that I cannot like. It's like cott engineer dug, you know what I mean. It's just like it's magic, part of the horny nous around him. It is that is would you say that

music is like casting a spell? Playing music is like casting a spell, And when you tell a musical director you need to change the key, they go okay, and then immediately magic flows out of there, like they can cast a spell on manned Honey. You might as well say, Alahamura, because I'm on the Lahamura girl. Girl. You might as well say because I'm illuminated, girl. You might as well

say expelling armist because I'm disarmed. Mama. You might as well say I bought a cadavra because my ass is fucking dead for you, honey, you might as well say crucio, bitch, because I am on my knees. On my knees, you might as well say imperio, bitch, because I am traumatized. I would do whatever you tell me to do. Okay, Okay, you might as well say set them CenTra because my snake is out, Mama. You might as well say no expected patron um because I just released I just released

a white cloud into the sky. I came buckets, Mama. My essence is all over the place. Harry Potter is good. It sucks. No, it's actually not good. Well, she's not only did she ruin her legacy like in her personal way, but she like ruined the cannon of the story with all her all her fucking flop movies. I have to say on this her movie, I'm saying her movies, I'm saying, like the fantastic some of the worst films of all

time ever made. But on this the week Beyonce has released Break My Soul on the on the soul Stice and Taylor Swift has appeared on the last Culture Soos Cultural Awards and potentially released Easter eggs. We cannot talk about ja k rolling. I mean we we must we must not, we must not. Okay, well I feel it. I feel like between Beyonce and Taylor, Um, what do you have to say about? Can we just say general

gag on news? We what go? The fact that Beyonce and Taylor are sort of in the culture right now, it's giving, it's giving Obama era, it's giving two thousand ten. We don't even know that there can be cares in the world. Boots girl, I miss optimism, don't you? Don't you miss optimism? And isn't it so sad how we can never feel that way ever again about anything? Wow? Like we as a we, as a society and a culture and as a generation in all the generations below us,

Like no one can feel optimistic about things ever again. Ever. I'm so stoned and I'm so sorry. Are you released? Okay? So yeah, I cannot be stone because I have to do an audition after this, but I would be with you, my sister, and I feel sad that I'm the stone are they are the dolls that you're with sort of downstairs stoned. They're downstairs, they're not stoned, they're sort of swimming,

drinking probiotic sodas. Really, Oh my god, it's it's giving healthy, healthy, it's giving choose your own adventure, which which I love. Oh my god. Okay, So the next time you hear Bone and I together is going to be when we do our follow up to an Honest Conversation. That's going to be called an Honest Conversation Part two, and it will be live from Fire Island, where Bone and I are going. I think we've said it so many times.

We're gonna be there the first week of July and we will do our next culture catch up from there. And I'm looking forward to going back to the Pintes. I want my brain to break in half. I'm looking forward to a h e a u X summa homa. What does what does being a hope mean to you? Oh? Oh it is okay. I thought you were just like I want my brain to be cracked like an egg like all that for sure, but you also be dicked down. I'm looking forward to meeting Big Bro Park two. Oh

my god, I'm so excited. For you be excited for yourself. Bitch, What do you mean someone's going to break your soul like a whole. I don't know. It really hasn't happened. It's so crazy. How long it's been. What are you talking about? You do that had since I've had anal sex. No? Literally, this this is what we're talking about. What's the problem? Um? It just never leads up to that either, Like, it's just it's just not in the cards, as they say.

Do you feel that I'm ready, You're ready, I'm ready. It's just that I'm like, Oh, it's I'm tired. I don't want to. I don't I don't want to do it. Maybe that's it. It's just it's just that I've been busy and tired. M hmm. But that but that there's but there's nothing fun about what we need to get you on something Fire Island. Oh my god, I can't wait. We're jumping into saying that we're we're open to all sorts of experiences on the Fine Island Pines us sort

of the mascots of the island. Well, it's like it's giving Donald Duck and Mickey and you know you're giving Donald no Joel Kim is Mickey You, You and I are Donald Goofy. I'm Donald and if it stuck, but I guess some people do like it doesn't stuck to be Goofy. Oh no, in Kingdom Hearts, Goofy is so important. Goofy's your tank, Donald Donald, Donald's your spelled caster, which feels like me, you know, it feels like very like. I love actually that that's you, because you're the more

musical one. Is that true? Maybe I'm maybe I'm the tank. I'm stoic, I'm the tank. I'm Goofy. I don't think you give UFI not like me. I'm sort of lanky and esk. Why are we talking about because because I said we were going to be the mascots of Fine Island Pines. Oh, you can choose a different mascot. I guess, so okay, Mario Luigi, there you go. I'm giving Maria, you're giving Luigi. Well, what does that make Joe Kim certainly not Princess Peach waro bitch bye, bitch. You gotta

be listening. Well, it's a big week for Joe Kim, his stand up specials coming out of Psycho sexual Flix dot Com and you can watch Loot on Apple TV Plus starting Maya Rudolph. I've seen the first three episodes. Very funny show, very good show. Maya is delivering. Oh my god, that's all you're lying down. I mean, that's really all your one wh You say the name Maya Rudolph,

you go, oh, is she the post me? Because all I want for her is to deliver and she does on time, which we also love about Postmates when they're on time. You know what. I've not had good experiences post with Postmates actually, and I will say that publicly, and I will not drag, but I will say tis tisk, I'm wagging my finger? Are you The customer service? The customer service has not been great. And the and the Pride campaign was was a big no no and I and I found out that I don't want to say it.

Olivia told me that I got the offer for their bottom friendly Foods campaign and she was like, no, he will not be doing that. No, no, no, no no no, there's some there's some industry inside um for you. But I don't know. I don't know about like bottom foods, you know what I mean? I just I just of course I get it. This is what I'm saying to all bottoms. Eat whatever the funk you want, okay, and don't like eat eat stuff because it'll keep your reptum clean.

Eat eat the burrito before you go get fucked. Fine, men on sex dirt, And this is what I'm gonna say on lost culture. So this is how you know the podcast has not changed. The dirtiest bottoms I've ever been with have also been the quote unquote hottest people. Okay, so they don't care, So why should you care. I'm talking to all my bottoms out there. These these men,

they don't care. I've I've seen, I've looked at alive from both sides now and the people that you think, oh that person has sex a lot, they don't care about cleaning their bottole. They don't care about eating, right, it's poop down. It's poop down, okay, and they don't even give a fuck. There you go. And how many times have you shot on dick in your life? Let's go there, um, maybe just twice? I think for me twice? Yeah,

too many? But I actually no, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna really attach shame onto this for myself or anybody let's start the revolution. Okay, I'm saying we need to be open about it. Like I've shipped on one dick and then it was a guy that I just hooked up with once and then I can't. I just saw it afterwards and I was like, oh, that's a shame. But he didn't say anything. It was very cool about it. And then I should on one dick with a boyfriend

and he was like, oops, look what you did? And I was like, oh shoot, and then it was fine. So now you reveal your stories. But can one of the swifties take look what you made me do and cut it onto ops, look what you did? Oops, look what you did? Look that's my that's my response song to Taylor's Look what you made me do? Oops, Look what you did? Look what you did? Look what you made me do? And the response is oops, look what you did? But you did did? Look what you did? Okay?

Can I actually reveal something? Yeah, you didn't say your times you should on dicks? And I said the two times okay, one was one of the like the second time I ever had it was the first the first time, Oh wait, I remember when this happened, and then about it up this was this was high school? Yes, yes, yes I was. And then the second this was high school. The second time was no, was like, uh college, No, it wasn't college. I was like twenty two or something,

right out of college. Okay, so it's been a long time for you. You've sort of like figured out the fiber of it all. But I need to Okay, I need to actually admit to something, which is that. Ever since last week's Jeremy Viler episode, will we open up the episode talking about infatuation, I'm like, well, what happened for me? I'm like, that's all I want this summer is to feel infatuated. And I don't know, I don't know if that happens too often in light I feel

like this is this is where it gets weird. Like I feel like in my heart, I am like a Howey that really wants that and identifies and here's your sister. But then you you haven't experien arians that. That feels a little heartbreaking, and you become a Noah straight up Like now I'm right now, I'm on my it's giving Noah tease. I'm like, no, I don't want to feel I think this sequel has to be Um, the ax the person who broke Noah's heart shows up. Well, so

we were fully fully in Provincetown. And by the way, we had the best time. And if he was like thanks for coming up and saying hello, we didn't even talk about this. We had the best time. We met John Waters. We need a whole episode for that. He needs to come on the podcast. I mean that would be an epic moment in time. I think he would

do it too. He's like very he's so chatty, lovely, chatty, wants to talk about he's doing like approachable legend better than anybody, like I always Yeah, for all the times I complain about like saying the same thing over and over again, we're being asked the same questions. I'm like, oh, he's been asked the same questions for fifty years. Came out so graceful about it anyway, Um, he was so lovely. We got to meet so many wonderful people in p Town,

including Jenny Slate. Jenny Slate so fun. She's coming on the pod soon, yes, And everyone's gotta check out Marcel the Shell with shoes on. When it comes, when when you when you can? And um, also I was gagged because we were at this dinner and the character actress Dale Dickie was there, who I'm obsessed with. She's from

like Winter's Bone. She had did an iconic episode of Breaking Bad, and she was floating around and I got to say to Dale Dickie, oh my god, you're a star, and she got to say to me bow and Yang because I was, of course sitting next to the icon bo and Yang. And we should also say that was iconic.

And also the second iconic thing was at the Culture Awards when Candice Stillard Bassett herself sent in her captain speech for Record of the Year and said, of course, I just want to say thanks to Bowen and check Hiline Change. Highline Change looks fully down to check her notes. Matt, thank you guys so much for your unique brand of humor. I'm we screamed till that, and the whole audience was screaming at Candice Stillard Bessett, needing to check her and

not know who the funk I was. Thank God. I love being Kelly Rowland. I do. Can I just say, though, what the amount of times? And I hate that this is like, oh my, this is how I know. But like so many interactions in the last couple of weeks with people where Matt and I have done stuff together and gone places together, of people just going up to him.

I am invisible fully and they just know and it's wonderful, and then they tell him at what an amazing job he's doing on I Love That for You, which, by the way, just celebrated its season finale. I loved it so much finale. I there was a crowd. The last moment is so fucking good and funny, and I was so refreshing and I haven't seen that and so long on a comedy television show. People should have been well,

I'll say this. I just went across the street to the Clark Street Dinner where, by the way, I ran into Steph herself. I screamed, But when she looked so gorge She's in this like yellow jump Steph sho has always loved to jump. She tasted me on the shoulder and she goes, hey, I heard that you didn't think I respond to your text, And I literally screamed. I was like, I was like, I screamed, and we had the longest hug and we had such a nice conversation. Oh my God, she's gonna come on the pod say

she's got us, but I fucking love her. And I was there and I swear to god, I hadn't been in that dinner and that's like my dinner I go all the time. I hadn't been there, probably in about six weeks or something, because like we've been out doing the thing. I felt like sucking Zenda herself. The whole staff was like, are you on that show? I was like yeah, And it was giving Sandea in Boston. I was like, am I saying da in Boston right now?

Because everyone knows my name? Like it was giving. People have been finding the show and that's really exciting because I do think it's really good. Like when you watch it as an eight episode piece, it's a very binge able.

So if you don't have showtime yet, get it, do the trial, watch all of it, and then you know you should keep it because there's lots of good stuff on Showtime, but just saying it's now binge able, so you can get it if you haven't seen it already, and you can watch all of it and it really is good. It's so wonderful. These performances, including Matt are

so fantastic. Well, and let me just say the Emmy voting is happening right now, and I just want to say, Jennifer Lewis for your consideration, because that is a career of decades and she is giving everything. And if you are an Emmy voter or no, an Emmy voter, you should be talking about Jennifer Lewis for the nomination. And everyone on the show, like Vanessa and Molly, they're so amazing.

But I just feel like it's Jennifer's time to get like a major, like, you know, a nomination, like and like I sometimes think, and I'm hesitant to say this, but I sometimes think, like I just like Jennifer's name is getting lost and it cannot be because she is giving such an incredible performance and obviously, like you know, so if I have two wishes for nomination, warning it's Jennifer Lewis supporting actress and of course boyan supporting actor, and I we need to compete with Mike. It will

never ever happen. It literally, there's like a point zero zero zero two percent chance of it's happening. I'm just happy to be on a show where I think Jennifer really deserves it and I'm I'm her scene partner and much of it. So but anyway, I just had to say that because I don't see people talking about it and I'm like so proud of Jennifer in the show. So I just want to say that everyone start the

chatter online. I just want right now, tweet something, tweets some thing, hashtag f y c Emmy's there we go, and that's that's that's how you really be a publicist. Okay, And also, like, fucking Molly is unbelievable, Molly. I was I was watching the last episodes of My Parents again, Molly. What Molly does like in those last two episodes, like oh my God and the big reveal of the big reveal was truly something I have not been able to stop thinking about. And I won't spoil anything, but in

the in the control room, Yes, good episode. She's so good and Vanessa is just like Vanessa. That show comes from her, like it is so her essence. It is as sweet as she is, as funny she is, as kind as she is, as singular as she is. Like I can't say enough. So I love love my colleagues, love my colleagues so much and it's just a wonderful chop. Congrats on finishing that second mom, and we are all proud of I just wanted to say that it was really really nice to see Matt just being recognized or

something that he does so well. Anyway, and of course the joy of my life over the past weeks and weeks has been you know, just everyone like deserving is not the word, Like you did such an amazing job in that film, and like I'm so happy that everyone can see it now, see how what a well rounded actor you are. You are my favorite performer. All you need to stop, No, I won't because you are. It's like so cool, like to see like everyone realized, like

what a force you are. And then I'll be like Hollywood, and it's true, I'm so proud of you. You You're you're flopping. I'm not flopping. I am not stopping. Publicists, You're now officially fully full time readers again until next time, until next time. There, I think I don't give away too much, Okay, So yes, again, really really disappointed that we cannot bring what happened at the Culture Awards out

to a wider audience. We just don't know, just don't know yet there's and which you know hopefully that keeps you into like what we want to do with it, you know, like we um, we can't legally feature we can't legally put it out for whatever reason, for multiple reasons actually, But that is the one thing that really is the disappointing part in all of this. It's the only thing that like, I'm a little like sad about um. But it only means that we will do this again

in some other form in the future. That's the silver lining is that we discovered in doing this that it is going to we wanted to be a part of, like the last coach and I believe that winning, winning the culture is gonna be and that you got like there's the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar of the Tony and the culture and culture is a beautiful yeah, oh my god, it's a beautiful shape prism. Yeah, it's brutalist.

It's brutalist. Um. I we quickly want to say, oh, thank you to the Lincoln Center for helping us make that show free. That was the reason why. I think that was the reason why the energy was so nice. And thank you God for the weather. The weather, Thank you God. Might have to be a Christian again. For that, one might have to sign up for Christianity again, sign up for the newsletter, sign up for the fucking subs. Jack, there's some drama and Christianity right now. Pope Francis might resign.

That's drama, that it's a sli a dramatic and a dramatic way. I just think it was so important that it was a free show, and I was so great only to free shows from now on it I know, UM, do be too. I don't think so, honey, I think we should do. I don't think so, honey. Um. This is our sixty second segment. By the way, congratulations to our best I don't think so, honey, of all time

winner Aaron Jackson for going to church on Wednesdays and Sunday's. Um, we did a live performance of it altogether as a three thousand person crowd. That was one of the great moments of my life. Scared him and some of you, some of you described that as cultish behavior, which yeah for us to say, we but we. By the way, we will be posting all the winners. We will post there.

There are so many slides and all the winners and they will get posted, so stay tuned for that, but for now, here is um some I don't think so Honey's from us fresh fresh, Okay, do you have something I do? Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey people thinking it's a compliment when they say that they were turned on by my sex scene and vire Island. Um,

here's the thing. The sex scene that I do in Vire Island is a U is a sort of an assault and um, my character is very very very fucked up on and it is was unable to consent. So do I think, so honey, that I understand what you're saying? And I guess I I can take it as a compliment. You think the scene is um features an aesthetic that

you appreciate. That's great, But I think we're missing the point if are saying that it made you horny or that you wanted to participate in it because my character was being assaulted um, or at the very least, you shouldn't want to have sex with someone that looks like that, and is um experiencing sex in that way? So I think that well, I do think so honey that I appreciate the sentiment of what you're saying. I don't think so, honey,

that we're going about this the right way. It makes me feel a little awkward when you say that this is something that you like got turned on by. I don't think so, honey, that this is the vibe. I don't that's one minute. Yeah, I'm gonna agree with that one. It's like I've been getting a couple of d ms when it's like, wow, I really want to I was like, I want to do that to him, and I was like, oh my god, is so dark. Did they understand what was done to him? I think maybe? And then I

think maybe no, Maybe they didn't get it. Maybe they like don't see they forget that there's a camera in that space that was not where the person was not consenting to being recorded, or I don't know. Yeah, I don't think that was nest necessarily the vibe we were going for of like hot and to turn you on. But like, um, I appreciate um at least that's six percent of what you're saying, but don't get in my d ms with that. That's not yeah, um anything. And I'm sad. I'm sad that this is the third Oh,

this is not that they're showing the road. I'm about to I'm gonna do something related to the film as well. Okay, it's the last It's the last thing that I need to say before we like close the books forever. Well, we Bowen and I are doing one more big old TV appearance together and we're not going to talk about it because we don't want to drink it. But it's so ice to say it's a slay as to say I don't know a girl. Okay, this is how many things I don't think, so honey. Time starts now. I

don't think so honey. People saying to us, I wanted to hate the movie, but I was charmed by the end. I don't know what you think that's trying to say. If you're trying to come off cool or contrarian or some one who um is not like other girls, it doesn't really matter to me that we want you over. I'm glad that you liked it, but I just think that little asterisk is so strange and I don't know what to do with that information. And to be honest, put off by that that you wanted to hate it

that means that that's something you should examine. I'm I'm sure I've said those words about a film that I ended up liking. Did not say that to one of the people involved in the making of that film. So that's the thing that you must try to understand, is that you're talking to someone who had some stake in the project and you're telling them that, for whatever weird reason, you wanted to dislike it in your predisposition. And that's

one minute. I just feel like people might not realize this, but it's giving self hate in a way that's like really jarring to be on the opposite side of Maybe it's not even self hate, it's just, um, you don't understand, like it's it's giving like inconsiderate, it's giving root. It's just I'm just saying it's rude. I'm just saying it, Like even when it's been like someone who's not a gay person, a queer person who comes up, Um, I'm

just like, why did you say that? Why did you say that when you know when you know that I'm involved, I've only experienced this from other gay men, and it's sort of like, so I guess that's when I say like like it's like it's like, okay, so something that you know people worked hard on and like you know, put a lot of effort into, it's like you really wanted to hate it, like based on what I I guess it's maybe like I've heard someone say like, oh, well,

because we've been burned in the past, or like the caliber has been so low over the years that it's it's made me distrustful of like a gay movie. That's different than wanting to hate it, though I want, oh sure, sure, sure, having live expectations is different than wanting to hate it. But even even then, even the live expectations think, which I understand better than wanting to hate it, the lower

expectations thing is going well. Like the shitty quote unquote gay stuff that came out before like still had a purpose. It's still like was something I don't know, Like, well it doesn't it didn't have a delatarious effect on like what you could consume as a gay person, and hopefully this is just nice and additive to that. But then like I don't know, some of these people go, um, we've been burned in the past, but I'm like, okay,

I don't know. It just it doesn't matter to me. Well, yeah, I guess my thing is just like it's a comfort level with letting. It's it's like you said, it's like just so you know, I'm cool, and I don't care that you're cool like I You're probably you're probably not in the same way that I'm not, Like nobody like stop.

I just yeah, it's like it's like almost like letting, you know, like it's like a thing of like I wanted to hate it, like and I am someone who can come in and say, like my taste level was like superior, like and I of course I wouldn't want to stoop to liking something like this. It just it doesn't feel good in the moment receiving it. And it's just I've said I wanted to hate this thing about a million different things, probably very recently, but I didn't

say that to the person involved. The person Yeah, yeah, that's weird. It's so fucking brainless to me. Yeah anyway, you know, but the fact is, um, it seems like most of you and even if you did hate it whatever, like hate it, you know what I mean, Like even Joe Kim is so like, yeah, if you hate it, fine, but it's the telling of that to us, just like Okay, nice to meet you, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Anyways, Um, we gotta make this a short one today. Sorry, but

um it's for a good reason. And we hope everyone's having a nice end to their Pride month and we're going to talk to you soon. We have some good episodes coming up if if everything goes as planned, and in the meantime, be spending that song that be all say a song and we do every end every episode with a song. I'm telling everybody, everybody, you won't break my soup. You will bring my girl. Listen to stick break my soul. Bye bye,