"Herpes Simplex I" (w/ Rae Sanni)

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thorny ship bitch. Look I look, I used the pronoun it and it's a bomb mass guest applies. It's a bomb Mass guest today. Okay, let's go through the credits. She's got credits. Boots the House down, Boots, Boots, Boots, Boots. Guys, listen to her amazing, amazing podcast. I love this podcasts so smart, funny, you know, Irreverend. It's so great, smart like whip, smart like a whip. It's called Miss Andrew Uh co hosted by our favorite queen, Marsha bell Ski

And can I tell you something. The other day I was in a photograph with Marcia Yes, Dylan, Marron and culs of her work and there was the four of us we're gonna picture together and we all war different primary colors. Guess what. It was not planned, but the picture is hell yeah. Yeah, the picture is hell yeah. You need you need the pick. Check it out on Facebook or and stuff you can. You can also see our guests on girl Code on the MTV Discovered channel

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the cutting room floor. Honey, they thought let's get rods from moss culture racists and put him on screen. No, bitch, what you don't know about us is our faces are disgusting. We're disgusting. And she writes for the phenomenal President Show with Anthony Tamanac. Oh, this show, this show is so goddamn good and entertains it inform. It's artful. It's so artful. We'll talk about this later. Shocks, it shocks. And she was a New Faces for just for laughs, for the

stand Up New Faces Showcase. God, she's just phenomenal with just such a smart She goes those make me feel like I have something going on, Well, she does have something going on. And her name is Ray Sunny. Nice. You guys are so nice. And that was like the nicest and the coolest description of anything I do. Let me tell you something person in front of a green screen, and let me tell you it's because it's reality, because

those are your real credits, unvailable. The first time, I never like thought about it like that because my mom is still know. Yeah, she calls you and she says, Hi, um, can you do something with your fucking insurance. My mom has been like, um, you need to change your insurance, and she calls me, and she doesn't care that I

was once in a Comedy Central video. She doesn't lost up to the parents who don't give a ship what we do and don't these these I mean, whatever things we've amassed in the last few years mean nothing to them, and they keep us grounded. It's really never hit the one of culture. Your parents don't care. It's so really like she cares because I can see a doctor now. Yes, I couldn't see a doctor for so long before. Yes, thank you writers guilds right and uh but yeah, she's

just like, Okay, you can see a doctor. Oh, you can buy me dinner. Yes, these other markers because of success. That's why I hit up all my guild friends for meals, medication. Yes, I don't understand. Sometimes I do hit up hit them up for antibiotics. Oh that's nice. One time, one time I offered you extra Viking and not Viking, and I'm so sorry. One time extra you offered me an extra roommate. That's hilarious what we got third hand? Yes, and then

and then I'll just say, Mike spends your roommate. I didn't understand that he was getting his stocked up and stole over him to come to me. I asked him, I was, I cannot have these, and he said, he gives you a passive aggressive answer. He did, but I still campaigned hard for you, but also like cats of aggressive, No, ain't gonna work if your friends about to die. Roll your eyes and you're like, I guess it's like, okay,

it's a life or death situation. And you know, every time I'm even mildly sick, it's a life or death situation. And here's the thing. And I was talking about this before we hit record. Matt is dealing with a lot of cancer stories right now, so many. Okay, so you guys, I've been doing stressful time and I don't know what it is. And and so before I said to Ray, I was like, I'm dealing with the cancer story right now, because Ray and I just came from a show I'll

plug it. We came from the above average showcase. Ray did stand up. I did some characters and I said to her before I was like, I'm about to go up there, and I have a canker star that has a nickel on my lips right now, and she's like, well, you can't see it. And I immediately jumped in and was like, no, no, no, it's not a cold sore, because isn't herpies cold? I have the I have the cold, So you have the you have H one? Yes, I have h herpie simplex virus one, Yes I have. I

mean I'm a woman, I have HPV. Right, apparently I have herpies simplex virus one. But ever your could stars don't show up or they never have ever. My gosh, I think I've been getting cold sores every other fall. That's fine. You guys should both be lucky that you don't have herbies zoster, which I have, which is just the shingles virus. Oh you know, I never had chicken pox and I don't have shingles, so that you're you're

in the clear. I think my dad got shingles though, when he was like, no shingles you get if you did have the chicken pox virus and it's dormant and then it springs up again. So that's what that is. So if you didn't have chicken pocks growing up, then you're fine. But what about this, Okay, what about when they say that if you didn't have chicken pox as a child, actually that's not so good because if you

get it as an adult it could be very painful. Well, I got a vaccine, so I think it's just like I think the vaccine kind of was just like but you know, everybody says, get the chicken pox when you're young, so you don't have chingles when you grow up, but you do still have chingles when you grow up. That's the thing. It's it's dormant. So anyway you've had that's like old wives sales in I think. So yeah, I mean that's not medically, I don't think that's that's correct.

So anyway, Matt is dealing with canker stores. Yet Monday so bad and I get I get a breakout when I get stressed. So Sunday night he tells me this, and I go, well, I have this amazing Chinese herbal remedy that I swear by that I've been using since I was like in high school, that my mom, you know, procures from like the shitty Chinatown pharmacies for me, and I'll bring it with me tomorrow. And I began to

look forward to that. Well tomorrow was yesterday, and so you did not I brought it with I was, it was on my person yesterday, but then we didn't end up meeting yesterday. So then today you're like, I really needed you. Can you bring it to the recording? I go, I don't have it, but we can. We can go back to my place. But I still had a little bit of time to kill before I came here, so I went on this so Jordan in China Town for my bitch right here, Matt Rodgers, and I was embarrassing

myself to all these nasty, nasty, dour shop keeps. Do you have watermelon frost? It's what it's called. It's called watermelon frost. That sounds elegant, sounds watermelon frost sounds like someone would call their metall out. Oh yes, watermelon frost. It's the theme. Did you hear what I just said? It sounds like what someone would call out that's the cancer star. But I understood. It turned your effort to a whole being. It gave me a whole other continants out.

I went through so many fucking shops and it was like, and they say, which means, I don't know which was lying? They're lying they didn't want to open up again exactly. And I was like, well, all the pharmacies are closed around, like the like the shitty Chinatown pharmacies were all closed. They close it like six It's nonsense, Like, how do you expect people to get there? How do you expect business to do? I never understand when a service provider

of any kind has daytime hours. I know that that sounds crazy, but doctors should always work, even who's gonna see it? Like you can't see a doctor during the day because every bitch does at work. Does that work? And pediatricians, I get no, But even then it's like the kids are at school, yes, And also kids always get sick at night. They always wake up in the middle of the night hottest ship, scream and crying. You need pediatricians. What is it about that? Why do you

get most at night time? Because maybe you're you're resting. Your immune system is sort of and a lull and then you're more susceptible to I don't know. Maybe we have some doctors out there that if you know, for all you aliens and old people still use pieces, Um, when your phone is, when your phone or computer is charging, is that when you get viruses? Oh, we gotta figure out charing. We must know if there's a connection here. Anybody out there who still has an android let us

right now. I have to ask you, but I have to ask you about your voice. Did you have a fun night or something. I don't know what's gonna what's going through? Okay, I don't know this story. I'm dying to hear. She's choosing what she wants to share. Yeah, because okay, So I'm gonna be thirty in December. I was just telling this to Matt on the way here. I'm gonna be thirty in December. And you know, I'm like all feminists and career oriented and I'm like, I

don't like need kids right now. You know, I don't need a partner right now. I'm super single and uh and but like I'm gonna be thirty and I don't know. It just hit me like two weeks ago, like oh my god, It's like, I don't even I couldn't even think of a man that I would ever be like, yeah, my kid can have half your DNA. But like, suddenly it was so important that there's nobody out there that I would, you know, feel good enough to share kids with. What was the what was the sorry for lack of

a better word, what was the trigger for that? It literally was like, oh, we were on break from work for two weeks, so I had a lot of booze in bed by myself. Just my brain was like, you know, what do you want to do before thirty? And then it was like suddenly have a kid? That it was something I think it's something like that, like unfortunately like kicks with women, like hey, have your thought about your body?

Is thinking about it, and it's like and you know, and milestone shouldn't matter, but they do for some reason. So uh so I like I was seeing somebody until recently, but he moved away, so the situation ended, and I've been doing some kind of like well, there's no one in New York I want, So I just texted him to like make myself feel better and really quickly, would you would would your kid? Would you willingly have your kid have half his DNA. He's really hot and he's

really smart and like, like literally the only problem is distance. Um, and he's young and like a doctor, and you know it wants to be like a young, hot doctor in another city. So you know, I still like, you know, do my ego stroke in texting with him and I'm like, uh, first of all, he's younger than I am, and it's like it's like, find somebody that makes you feel fuckable in New York. So I like spotted another young boy. I think I'm going to decide to be a cougar.

I think that's my sweet SPoD. So because I'm just older dudes have worn me out, and there's a confidence I feel talking to a man who's still taller but dumber than me. Yes, yes, yes, great applies to most men. For you that most men are dumber than you. Well, that's part of the part of the concern. I know this is gonna sound terrible, but no, guys, just really quickly. Ray is just a fucking genius. The first time I met her, I was like, oh my god, who the

fuck is this? He just like gives you the truth and at the show, guys and you hosted. Yeah, you guys, you you guys. I sat down and I was like listening away. So yeah, like I'm also I should just say I've been fortunate enough to go to very good schools, and so I'm already like they're not enough of those guys who meet like a basic level of intellect. Can I keep cutting in? Um, would you prefer an IVY

League guy or no? I know if I prefer an IVY League guy, But I think it's one of those things that are also residual in your brain, like there was you know, I didn't finish school. I want to be clear, I'm gonna dropout at I did go to an IVY League, And then I'm on, i've been on mental healthy leave for seven years. Come through, come on break, just like I've got to prove. I almost went back, like comedy was not going well and I almost went back. But one of the stipulations is that I have to

see a psychiatrist for a full year. And then I was like, I like, I'm a broke comedian. What you mean psychiatrist for year? Anyway? So um, so yeah, yeah, I want like this guy is twice IVY League, like the second one was med school, young black dude, and like, you know, I like so when I had that, and I was like, oh my god. I wasn't like in love with him or anything. She just kind of was like, oh my god, I'm not going to meet this again.

He's woke game with feminism, understands trans issues not socially only but medically as well. Huge um, And like you know, I just was like I'm not gonna do better than that, which isn't necessarily true, but it started. And so we're like two months out of our situation at this point. So and I'm still texting him like last week, you know, just to stroke my ego. And I was like, oh god, I'm non fuckable, which I was like, I'm sorry that I keep texting you at three am. I'm just having

time alone with my brain and I'm worried. He was like totally cool about it. Um. But so then I tried to hit on some other young boy and I totally sucked it up, like totally sorry. I was like a text game fucked it up, and uh so I was like, damn, I can't even finesse twenty five year olds like good. So I was feeling bed at by myself and the night like decided that I was going to go out every night from like Thursday and look as good as I possibly could. So I like wore dresses, skirts,

I like put on lots of makeup and stuff. I showered maybe twice a day during that like four day period, um, and so like we were on hiatus from work for two weeks. This is where all the booze in bed happened. And then exactly then, so then I go to a party, like a little get gathering on Sunday night and it ends at nine thirty. I'm like, Okay, you're in a responsible do who's work in the morning. Go back to work. But then my co host, I mean, go back to

go back to bed. And but then my co host was at a comedy show, Marcia, and she was at a fun comedy show. She was like, Oh, the lineup is really good. Come hang. So I just hopped in an uber. I was like, yeah, I'm not finished with dis dressed exactly. That shadow was popping, Like my hair was good. So like I go out and like I

just keep drinking. Uh. There was like a little dance party after the show, and this like gorgeous British tourists just comes up to me and he like, he starts he's a young I'm like he's even oh god, he's twenty three. Um, and he like he comes up to me with stupid game, you know, a year olds. So he's like like, is this your favorite bard around? Like where did it lock to go? This is my leads accent, and she described it was like a Harris Styles top. Yeah, basically,

And so I was like, never say that again. You are so corny, You're really handsome. Yes, That's what him being twenty three did to me. I would never if he was thirty out to be like yeah. So I was like, never say that again. Uh. And he was white. He also said something about, you know, I've never been with a black girl before, and I was like, never say that again. I felt very in control of the situation. I felt like yes and so uh and so like

he was cute enough. He sent his friend away. We made out a little bit at the bar, and we go home, like we hop in an uber and we go to my house and I'm like, rough, you have work in the morning. This this is like so like I didn't realize that, you know, because you're at a bar, you gotta talk over music and you know, and then there're sex noises and stuff. So here we are. There are those, So here we are. This is a five

am voice RASP. It's someone who's been awake till five I said, Sometimes though it doesn't matter what reason says, like lights went off again, this happening, Well, sometimes it doesn't really matter what reason says. It's just like you must get your body to the place it needs to be. And this person was handsome and dumb and young, and they were there and so then you got you carry through and no, that's beautiful. I think the latest booty call I ever did was a five am r And

he didn't get there until five am. And I was twenty four and he was nineteen. What was he doing so far? He was just like not, he was just and yeah, they came. He came over and he was so drunk, and it was in my old Park Slope apartment and I was just like, I couldn't believe he said he was coming over too, And then at five am rolled around and he finally shot up and I was like, I honestly don't want to here anymore. But you got like a perfect little body. It's on him

for showing up three hours is more like it's crazy. See. But the thing and the thing is like it wasn't even a possibility of me being like, hey, don't come over anymore, because he was like I'm on my way the whole time, and I was like okay, but anyway, I mean, you know, we should get to yes, the question we need to ask Ray, the question we ask all of our guests, which is, Ray, what is the culture that made you into the person that you are

so like? At at a at a formative age. This is the culture that entered your life, whether it be movies, uh, geography, television where you grew up, whatever that made you become, Um, the Ray that you were today. It made you say, culture might be for me, Man, I could be a book, a text, like a text and as in like a work of text. Okay, this is kind of embarrassing. When I was in seven twelfth grade, when I was like seventeen or maybe eleventh grade, so it would have been sixteen.

But Um, we read a book called The Unbearable Lightness of Being in our little philosophy class and I have read I read it every year until I was like twenty two. But I read it for the wrong reasons, Like I read it like, oh my god, indulged in all of your feelings. Like I was like, I'm Teresa, I'm hurt, and I'm going to indulge in all my

feelings and dump them on everybody else. And so I was like annoying in an emo for like, and I'm probably still annoying an email emo, but I like it's embarrassing. But I also I am very grateful because I came My parents are Nigerian Muslim immigrants. You know, there's a

lot of like not taking your emotional self seriously. There's a lot of go to school, we got hard work to do, toughen up, suck it up, you know, and and like, so I think that was the first time I let myself in a real way indulge in as in how emo I actually am? And uh And you know, I was also old enough to articulate for my mom why it's okay that I'm more emotional than everybody else

in the family. And like my mom is learning super late now, but like she's learning how to be indulge in herself too, because she doesn't have to be our mom anymore because my younger sister is so like, oh I someone you me my sister. Oh, I've done that seventeen times over at this point. Whatever bone dudes older than my sister, so it's all relatives could go either way. But yeah, So that like and that's you know, maybe I'll give that to my mom to read one day

we're to race us. I earned it from you. There you go. Okay, that is this is so funny and it's so appropriate that that is the most intellectual answer we've ever had on the show. It's not embarrassing. No, And I'm so glad because I am just like getting back in touch with this side of me because I also took philosophy in high school and it was my sixth subject and ib which is the excuse me, no, it was this no, but it's bullshit like it was

anyway I be. It's this Bacclori program. So and I chose to philosophy is like like a p but better for all for all my people that are like me out there. It's like a it's like it's like those smart kids better than them, Like like when I was when I say like me, I mean like the kids that were like, I'm an honors I thought that wasn't just something that like they were just trying to get

people in. That's debatable, but anyway, I but I indulged in myself at that age to where it was like as a junior, I was like, oh wow, I mean I like and this is pretty basic, but like I got obsessed with Plato and just like just like loved all of Socrates. But um, but for you to say unbearable Lightness of Being, I mean, that's just one of those books to me that I've never read. There has been such this. It's part of this like monolith of

books that's just like I can't approach. It's like it's like, I please, I don't know if it's fair to like put that with infinite jestin limped that together with like this thing is it's not quite that hard. I know it's it's much more accessible, but for me, it's just like I'm I'm intimidated by Like well, I really was very grateful that I read it with a teacher who

had taught it before, because it is really hard. It's beautiful, the pros is score just everything feels like a beautifully worded treatise, and it is, but I'm very grateful that I had someone to talk it out with in parton because the book is about one thing, but when you're reading it, it can feel like it's about another thing. It feels like a romance novel into some degree is,

but it's not. And it's like important to have someone who can see beyond your teenage self centered self to recognize that this is like a commentary on the world we're in and how we should live in it, as opposed to like indulging in all your sad feelings. Totally totally well, I mean, okay, so fast forward to now, in what ways are you indulging in those? I mean, like maybe you think about like childbirth and child and

you fucking child. He's not a child. I was telling she was like, oh, year old, and I'm like, don't you know a lot of whatever I'm during I feel so old. I need a baby three years between us. It's nothing. I told myself, you can't rough my first name. I called myself that when I'm talking to myself. But I'm like, you need to stop talking to people born after I was born in and people treat me like that.

It's so like, it's so interesting this thing that's happening that happens a lot, which is like like how old are you? And I'm like twenty seven and they're like oh, and then it's like it's like I don't know. It's like I will wonder, it will very soon, so like it's okay, I'm also on my way there. I'm with you. But the thing is like it's you know, I didn't realize it because I would often be like, oh, why do you care? Seven five? It really is like E

V Show references. That's all that's the difference. But it's a big one because I'd be like, oh, did you watch Recess or Pepper? And yes, okay, But then somebody who's like twenty four won't say, oh, I know what recesses? Okay, we we fell in that windows, that girl what's her name?

What's her name? Pepper and Pepper insane? But there are it's interesting now, Like I think for me it happened when I was maybe I was like I was like, oh wait, I'm on the other side, and that made me feel weird and I expressed that out loud and someone was like, yeah, you're oh, oh, that's so sad because we're in New York. It's just like everywhere else, everybody understands the anxiety of being over because everywhere else is doing life a lot faster than we are, and

there's a scriptive. Yeah, yeah, they have their stones count. So like, if you said this to somebody who's you're from Long Island, I'm sure the response would be different. And you know, like also people I don't know, I'm imagining that person was an entertainment and yes they were. They like to do them. Yeah, Rule number one and two the performative. Um, I will say this has been

fucking with me. One of my best friends from high school, Emily, is now fully like nine months pregnant, and it's crazy that she's married. I don't when she got married, I was like, oh my god, this is insane. And now another one of my best friend frid school was married and like probably gonna get a pregnant student and the

engagements keep coming and everything. The pregnancy is what really got me, he said, was like, oh my god, some one that is my age that I went through a lot of things with is having a child and that will start to define their life going forward, and that makes that does make you question where you're at. My father had me late. My father was thirty five, my mother was twenty eight, which is funny because thirty five isn't really late, but it like is for them in

that time. For I bet my dad was anxious at thirty s. I bet he was, like, I haven't really ever asked him that, but I bet that, you know, coming around to two, my dad met my mom when he was thirty four, Like, that's gotta be a thing, especially when his mother was seventeen when she had him. Yeah. Yeah, my mom was, and she had emigrated from Nigeria and I had a kid before. When I turned twenty eight, I was like, oh my god, my mom had two kids and had left Africa and I am just figuring

out how to make baked Maggie. I mean, are we assigning too much meaning to that necessarily? No, I don't think we are, because time is time and there's so much of it. But we're in a different time. Yes, yes, But I think they're just you know, as even if you're like, fortunately that's not the case with my mom, but like even if you guys are like so different that you don't share the same values, even if that were the case, there's some ship that you grow up

learning that's residual. And so I feel like, you know, even though I know it doesn't matter that I didn't get this degree or like you know, didn't have kid here and whatever I know don't matter in the grand scop there. And I'm sure it doesn't even matter. She isn't I have a nephew, she has a grandkid. She's cool, But there's still something every now and then this shows up in the backy head. You're like, oh, yeah, we were told Nightgerian women should be married, and it's ingrained

in there somewhere, it's imprinted. I mean yeah, like my dad saying to me that, like he's the oldest out of his sibling, he's the oldest male, which means that his son me I technically carry the family line, even though I have an older male cousin on that side of the family. But he's the first so the so the male firstborn of the first son, your Prince William.

I'm Prince William and so. And I was even because he was in town last night and I was even talking to him about this, and he brought that up, and I was like, but Dad, it doesn't matter anymore. And I thought I was right and I was like, but Dad, I was I thought I was being so like progressive and I was like, but it shouldn't matter, and he goes, no, it does. And I was like him saying, no, it does. Is just it's it's it's like that rule in the rule book that you're like,

that doesn't make any sense. But someone could say it, but it's for him, and it's like for him to have like beaten that into my psyche for so long like a he said, no it does. I was like, you're right, it does. I mean, I'll never forget the moment. And I remember the moment that I realized I was

gay at eleven years old. I was getting into bed and I looked at the window and I was looking up at like I was like thinking about my day that day, and I remembered how playing in the pool with my friend and I was like, wow, I love my friend. I love when he comes over. I love like his back, I love like his back. I really want to touch his back. Oh yeah, it was. It was I'm a grown up, I'm a complex sexual being. Even at I was like still looking at long eyelashes

out back. Oh no, I'm not cock. So basically, like I remember that that moment, I was like, oh my god, I want to funk my friend. I The first thing I thought was I won't have a son. No, I was like, I was like, I have a sister. I have a sister who will take someone else's name, and my family line quote unquote will die because my my dad has to um sisters and they didn't take they didn't care to, so the Rogers name would die. So all of a sudden, I was like, oh my god,

it was very similar to your situation. You still have Fred Rogers. He's out there in the universe somewhere. But the fact of the matter is, I'll break this news Fred Rogers. I'm sure he's like super sweet kids, you know what. Yes, I would love to find out that I was just related. But in the meantime, I was like, oh, ship, Like,

it's so crazy. That was my first number one concern was my god, my parents, specifically my father are going to be so mad when and so upset and disappointed when they find out that I am going to be the reason that our name and that is a thing you know that reminds me of a thing, and I'm

going to be the annoying straight girl. So I was watching a bunch of Netflix documentaries during my break and there was a dock in the political section about you know that I can't remember what was it called outrage where they like talked about outing gay politicians who were working against Yes exactly. So that actually Larry Craig was

the entry point into the documentary. And then they talked about a whole bunch of other Republican people because the documentary memory was made maybe oh night, um, so like they were talking about a whole bunch of other people who had been in cockers at the time that I

had no clue about. But one of the things that resonated with me, and this is what what you just said reminded me of um, Jim McGreevy, who was the Jersey governor who was gay and he was about to be outed because he had hired this Israeli, unqualified Israeli guy to work and his administered station because he was having an affair with that guy. And he was married with children, and you know, you know how all these cheata as governors do, they bring they wives out and

they're standing, they're sad and all of that. Yeah, she forgives me and she's like standing there like sad and won't you. But um, I think he resigned. He resigned because first he was the first, um they called him the first openly gay governor of New Jersey. I was like, I don't know how if he's he had to come out because he all was about to get to it first. But um, so they went through the whole thing, and his wife, UM was not angry with him. She was

embarrassed and and they divorced. But I think they have an amicable relationship at the moment. But one of the things he said that was like mind blowing, and I had never considered this before. He was like, you know, Um, I grew up in a Catholic family in New Jersey, Like when I figured out I was gay, we were super Catholic, and so like the place I'm supposed to go to find love, which is God, is really really

harsh and critical of gay people. And he like talked about how, okay, well I can't learn about being gay and being a full human being at church, but let me go to the library to like hear about other gay people and learn about gay people. But you're a young kid in the seventies, ain't no books about dope.

Gay people are not immediately accessible. And I was really struck by that because even if as a black woman, like people elsewhere tell me I'm not dope, I had black parents who countered that at the very least, and I could might be harder to find. But I grew up in East New York, Brooklyn. Yeah there were books for black kids there, But I can't imagine being I am unlike everybody I know and nothing. There's nothing that you can learn elsewhere. There's no Google. You have this

in a whole other level than I have this. But it's like I just remember the horror of it being I could not see my future, Like I could not see a world where I was happy, or where I had any of the things that my parents had or any of my friends had, Like it was like you could not see it. Like like then, I remember when I was in high school, like the first celebrity, and I remember I had a strong infatuation with him because

of this. But when Neil Patrick Harris became like a thing, when when he was there was like there was like a window there was a good window where he was hot. And you know why, It's because he was playing a straight character fucking lots of chicks. No, it was you think we've internalized. I think we have definitely internalized it. And I think the only reason he was even allowed to a be gay and it was like it's fine because because he was able to portray the smashing character.

And I also think the only reason why his character was able to be as misogynistic as he was because everyone was like, he's actually gay, so we can play this game. So it was a weird area where like we kind of pretended this wasn't a CBS AS show,

where it was a CBS A S show. Um, so you're saying Neil Patrick Harris to you, was like he was he was so important to me because he at least, even though it was a little fucked up, he at least represented some sort of homosexuality complex almost some sort of homosexual complexity, whereas that complexity is magic tracks exactly finally a gay man. And that is different from and I'm gonna I'm actually being no, no, no, I know

you are, but I know you understand. But but it's interesting because literally all we had before that was Will and Grace. Yeah, I was gonna bring up Roland Grace and oh we had before that was for the straight guy. Um. I wish I had seen as a child this vision of beauty Wong I r l at a New Year's part. I think I've talked about this in the pod before, but oh my god, what is this image's well, he's so adorable, the best icon for I love him on Sorry, I think about you. No, I'm a pre spu as bitch.

See this is why we're talking about age different TV references. But there was a show called OZ. Yeah, I watched OZ in real time. I don't know where my parents were. They should have been raising you. You were watching in real time as a young like OZ finished when I was like if teen, And there were a lot of

things I should never see. First of all, I saw stablers, but before a's neck it happened, yeah yeah, And then and then his boyfriend biting someone else's dick off and they were trying to rape him and it was crazy. But yes, I knew Chris Maloney was fine before everybody else stared. But also beat Wang was on OS. He was the priest who everybody would like go to to like you know, confess or like, um, you know, he would perform. I don't know. He never got in trouble

like that. Um. He was actually like weirdly very very like the one of two, like pure, he was de sexualized. But but the framing around his de sexualization was his being a priest. And they had I don't remember specific episodes, but I do remember there being a storyline about a struggle to be a like absence of sex. Um, So I might have to revisit that. Don't beat them up if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure there was like a there was at least a conversation with other with the prisoners about the struggle it is to take to de sexualize yourself to be a priest. But he was, Oh my god, he looks so good. He looks exactly the same. He looks the same age, and like, he's amazing. Jurassic World is the same as Dreassic Park. Yeah, he looks like I remember him from Jurassic Park. Oh yeah, he was in Jurassic Park. He plays the same character in Jurassic World.

He had glasses in Durassic Park and the Glasses and Durrassic World, because all these like super hot men who are like so gorgeous and young looking like for Rell makes me dizzy, insane. It's in saying, it's like, what do you do? But that's rich people stuff. They drink in rish people water. You know who else? To Ryan Philippa, he does still look baby see everyone followed Ryan Philippin and also Weatherspoon. They both I mightna get back together.

You know, only people aging like magicians. Have you seen their kids? Just daughter looks exactly like her and is stunning, and it's it's mind blowing that they have like seventeen year olds. So they were one of those young as married couples who had kids. They were like very young, like they got married at twenty or something. They were young. They were married anyway. Just this beady well image of

his newest party two years ago. He just makes kanji like this porridge, just like savory Chinese porridge for everybody. But he's at his kitchen just wearing like other high heels like this fucking laced up all the way up

to his knees. And I was like, and you think he had lipstick on and it was like you are like no, no, no, Like I went to his party, um, and I'm sorry name drop going to be because because Joel told me once like heard a rumor that Beaty Wong hosts a brunch for a bunch of like media gag ins every week wonderful and Joel never like, we have to go to this, we have to go, And we kept tweeting him. One day we were like, is

this true? Do you really have this brunch? And he was like l O L maybe and then and then friends and I think some co star with him on Gotham was like, oh, I'm going to his party. You should come with a works He's always yes, yeah, he's great. And then um we went over there and he was just cooking and he was very sweet and um but I was like, but this is all to say. I wish I'd seen that as a kid because I knew were because shouldn't let you watch My parents let me

get away with it some bullshit. Um, like they let me watch like fucking I mean, I wouldn't have cable, but they let me watch like Mad TV, which was like my dad watched Mad TV with me. All kinds of ship should it was bad and it was I think, I think because half the time, but they thought, oh it SNL and the and they recognized SNL. But and I thought I would parents and literally any parents. Mad TV came on. They were like, oh, this must be SNL and so but Man TV, we know something else.

Oh my god, you know Mad TV. I like, I like when I think about Matt TV, I go, wow. I think I learned every stereotype, every type of from watch. And that's actually very impressive of the show to do, to be able to have so many Hackney I think I learned about white women from Nicole Sullivan doing Britney Spears and they did. Do you sometimes missed that I do miss like sometimes stupid, stupid, broad ass dumb because they didn't they didn't have general Oh my god, they

didn't Cole Sullivan as Britney Spears. They did it behind the music mean, while she was shooting the video for a baby woman, Defer Wilson plays Brandy and like Brandy supposed to be a feature, and then Nicolet like, will you be in my video? And then defer Wilson his Brandy is like no as Brandy as Brandy. It was. The song was lick my Baby back behind Lick my Baby bed, and they changed the melodies just enough. When I saw my gon wait tad years old, Deborah was

Mariah Carrey and she's like, and I'm crazy. The whole thing was just was crazy, crazy, crazy everywhere crazy. The game of all these sketches this bit crazy. You know. There was like two Matt TVs though, because I don't know this Keegan Michael Key. Oh. I didn't even get to Angela Johnston y'all, yeah, because I fell off after Airy Spears probably the first Airy Spears. I just remember a distinct sketch of him doing a Chris rock inmpression. Uh, this is this show is so bad. So he's doing

a Chris Rocket pression and it's Chris. You know how Chris Rock had put out that song No Sex in the Champagne Room, so he like basically does at Cadence. It's not a song, I don't think, but he's like giving the what the names of the network television station stand for? And I've like vaguely because up n um c W is now UPAN and I loved You Pian. They had like a slew of really dope black shows

for a long time, and so girlfriends. They had parks, Yes, they had Moitia, they had the Parkers, they had a bunch of There was also one called Homeboys and Out of Space that I really loved that I'm embarrassing, No, it's coonery a black don't watch it. I just love it because I think flex Alexander's the hottest dude ever.

But anyway, so I just remember a sketch with ari Is doing a Chris Rock impression, going, you be in underpaying niggas showing nuts like truly would never fly today, Fucking Alex Borstein playing Asian with the Miss Swan, like, are you kidding me? I think the only do you like it? I love it? You like? Do you like Miss Swan? I was obsessed with Alice Borstine growing up. I was like this living. I was like, this lady is the funniest woman I've ever Okay, how does it?

No adult bowen? Adult? Yeah, watch dog lasses unacceptable, unacceptable, but it's so funny. It's so funny. Angela Johnson did bunk queakly bunk quickly, and she didn't was bun queek queen. Have you seen her stand? Up where she straight up does I mean it's a no, she does a flawless

Vietnamese like Neil Salon. Yeah yeah, so wait Vietnamese was no, no, no, this isn't her stand up when what I mean like this she's doing a Vietnamese she specifically doing she does like a Vietnamese like Nelson was, Koreans do something, okay, but she she does this bit which was really like it was why her stand up was popular. It was because she was doing these accents to a Nel Salon and basically the girls that work with the Nelson talking to her and what they sounded like what they said,

and that was her whole bit. And and people ate that shut up, like people ate that shut up. Both of her big things were like huge appropriation bits. Yeah. Maybe that's why she's not amount. I mean, I don't think Twitter that's why she was in my brain. I saw a picture of her on Twitter. She also has not aged at all. I wish at the master. She's

very talented. She's super talented. It's just it sometimes makes you wonder, like what what is it that a like she never did anything again, like what it didn't that make you did someone? It's just not on the level as maybe you thought she was going to get because she had these huge moments. No, no, no, the black Twitter ripped apart like you have someone for a second was like is he Azelia's got a new single? And I was like, no, she doesn't. I was like, you

think she does? Know she doesn't, has a career never existed. But the other day I was on my Spotify. I was listening to my Spotify and like I was on like an old playlist and then I all of a sudden it was like it was Black Widow, like hate you that one where she's just and I'm like listening to her wrap and I'm like, you are doing a crazy black Southern accent, which is insane. She's a tiny girl from Australia. It's her name is Amethyst. Insane what

she's doing? She like she went to Houston then went to like who who did you know? It's crazy, It's it's insane to listen to it, and it is something that's very distracting too, like like blonde tips on metrosexuals will look back on ig the Frost, the Frost. Remember when white boys um that like in metrosexual age were like just bleaching the dip of their hair. They would jell their hair and just bleach the tip. I even knew at the time. I was like, I'm not doing

that because there is no way that has staying power. No, do you um, oh my god, you know what I'm thinking of it. He didn't have just the tips though. Did you watch The Real World? No? Probably not, but The Real World in New Orleans the first one. What year was that? Do you know? It's probably like I really kind of started. Well, there was a gay a gay guy on that show too. He was the first.

He was the first because I didn't see but he was the one who had a boyfriend who was in the military and they had to block His name is Danny and they had to block him block his boyfriend when his boyfriend came visit because it was still don't ask, Don't tell Era. That was like huge for me in terms of like seeing gay people, because I don't think I saw them before. It was like Ellen and him at the time, I think, um, but uh, but like uh yeah. There was a boy Matt, who was Mormon

and but he like was really cute. And there was this girl Julie who was also some kind of evangelical or Mormon or something, and she had a crush on him because they were both virgins and she thought that they would like, you know, get married or whatever when I was but I just remember Matt being like, oh, like this like virgin nineteen year olds like Matt with the pretty boy lived but he like had the but he was like a natural blonde and he had the cut,

you know. The backstreet they called Brian latreuelle. I don't think Brian no, no, no, but we call it that because of why not? Why not? Right? Exactly? It was the every boy band made up by Ron Proman, who's a using one person and at least one of these mand We want to get his name because he's a pedophile and we should all know his name. Ron Proman is Oh my god, I'm so sorry. He's the guy

from Sons, his Anarchy, Beauty and the Beast. He's the like, he's the guy who's always let's just say he's a pedophile. No so good about being like woke on Twitter. Let's let's not. We can find somebody who like it's terrible, like loves Tron, we call him. I have someone who's terrible and you can and I want to talk about this. Okay, okay you Ray was at I don't think so Honey

Live show. Yes, and here's the deal. You can listen to this on spoke right now or on the actual our feed, our podcast feed next week and about a week about a week when it will be on our channel. But Ray decided to go into the trouble and picked out Elizabeth Moss. Now, this is a bit who deserves to get red. And I've been thinking about this since you did your incredible I don't think it was amazing.

I want to give full credit to Marsha Belski because Marcia was like having problems because Marsha was trying to watch handmaid Sale and she was like, I don't I don't get how she reconciles this. And also during the promotion for Handmad's til, she would say dumb sh it like, um, I'm not feminist, it's not a feminist story. This week, Um,

someone commented on it. She did like Instagram and someone was like hi, um, and they asked you that question, like how do you reconcile your your faith with what's on the show, what's being depicted on the show. Don't you see some similarities. And she goes just a totally actual lead to this person and was, actually, Scientology is about open mindedness, and that's why that's what I really love about Scientology. Thank you. She said, what's most important

to me is religious freedom. And I said to myself, Okay, let's walk this back for a second. Religious freedom. When I watch lah Remony Scientology and the aftermath, that does sound like nobody's freedom, which I do watch and I do believe because I watched these people on the show and their accounts are very emotional and seemed very honest to me, and their week after week after week they're

talking about sexual abuse, imprisonment. Um David mims Kevic's wife, No, she appeared in the woods looking like ship six months ago. They found her in the woods and then she wasn't seen again. This is alleged. Is there were saying somehow there was a photograph of her being a Bronte Sisters novel.

Here's the deal. It's like you, I am so confounded by this because it's like someone's really got to sit down with her and look her in the face with a camera in her face and asked her this question, because how the fuck are you gonna have women coming forward with stories of sexual assault and sexual abuse, life long sexual abuse and assault and imprisonment, and you talk about religious freedom religious freedom despite that, I mean, wasn't she raised? She was raised, I don't think that's I

don't think she was. You know what I'm gonna find out. Let's find out because I know the Masterson's are raised, which is what is letting let them get away? And like I's not letting, like and Beck was raised and who's Beck's wife ex wife, some um, somebody. I was very disappointed to find out what else as scientilogists. But like, I'm not saying that it's okay because you're raised, But I feel about it how I feel about people who don't fight their Trump supporter parents and then like try

to have it both ways. And Elizabeth Moss is just greedy, oh sure, because literally every one of her characters is a quote unquote feminist, every single Peggy, that shorty from Top of the Lake, the handmads tail. She's greedy, and I'm wondering if she thinks it's a good marketing thing or she identifies herself in these characters. I do not think she grew up a scientologist. M parents were scient

producer Emma, Emma sometimes also amazing nails. Right now, I wanted to say, Hot Producer, Joe, are not with us right now? We have hot Emma and she's killing it, killing it and she's giving information off the top of her parents were. That means we think that she was raised in scientology. Yes, okay, I think it's Shorty from Orange is the New Black, the ex girlfriend Piper. Yeah, so she's married to a Masterson or was Man and the Master. No, she was married to the guy on

that little Brother from malcol in the Middle. So there, Why do they just keep generating actors? That's so bizarre and but yeah, so I think it's the kind of thing where scientology is old enough for them to be grandchildren. Now. Elizabeth Moss is quoted as saying, um that she gives her the faith, gives her stability. It makes her feel like a better version of herself. Quote. I think that's a good way of saying it, because there's so much focus on the I guess empowerment and sort of respecting

yourself and yourself as an individual. It's a better you, not necessarily changing who you are. I'm a big believer in taking what works for you from different things. I have a lot of respect for that. So my friends may give me great advice or tough with my mother, but personal freedom is a very important concept of my religion, and I translate that to sexual orientation. I guess defending the gay community because because you know, unfortunately to get

the Scientology's views on more than unfortunate. I mean, it's tragedy, but she's trying to just she's trying to have it both ways. And the factor matter, she's a fucking celebrity and they treat them differently, and that she can't see that, and the fact that she doesn't believe these women coming forward and not just one or two women. You know, hundreds. Did you watch that show? I only watched the pilot,

but I was obsessed with it. Actually, that's what I'm gonna do right now when we leave, I'm going to watch the show. But that a show that was based on like Tom Cruise's story where they had that that really hot guy who was like trying to find a perfect Scientology wife. Oh, I've heard about that? What's that on? It was? And I watched the pilot and I was like, this is poorly written and I'm in love where they

had this young hot guy. So the stories of the pilot at least was centered on this actress whose boyfriend she just found out was cheating on her, and she goes in front audition to play alongside this hot actor who is Tom Cruise's character basically um and then he doesn't pick her for the role, but he thinks she's the perfect public partner, and so basically they she like in the in the first episode, I don't know she I don't remember she takes it, but she basically he's

offering her a contract to be his girlfriend for like ten years or being a relationship for ten years. It's basically Tom and Katie. And it was intense and crazy and I totally believe that. I totally I believe everything, and honestly, I just feel like, well, I definitely think she's going to lose the fucking Emmy over it. And that's what everyone's when I think you wanted to have social consequences for that, Well, the thing is like for her, here's the t I have a question. Sorry to cut

you off. Just like I believe in social consequences for trans transgressions such as though, I'm very curious because I've been seeing this kind of self delusion happen where when you provide them those like social consequences or whatever, they turned themselves into martyrs. Like that Ted Nugent thing did you see where He's like, oh, I can't get into the Hall of Fame, the rock and roll Hall of

Fame because I'm not PC enough. And that might be true, And then David Crosby was like, no, the Funker is just not good enough. But like, do you think they learned the lesson or you think they they they? I think what's important that what's important is that we we don't justify that ship. And if they want to talk about it like I didn't get on it for this reason, they can spin off into their own realms crazy and they still love that ship when there is evidence and

social consequence for exactly. And I'm not saying that Himmaid Sale doesn't still do a great thing. I'm not I'm not saying it's not a great show. But there is a hypocrisy here which we must call out and she has to answer for because she seems like an intelligent person.

She's an incredible actor and you can't. And also the way she was promoting the show matters too, because she was undercutting, ultimately the feminist message in there, because there's no way you can watch a handmade in stale and be like, that's not a feminist show. And she did come out eventually after all the controversy and say, I just want to say in caps, of course it's a feminist show. But what I wanted to say was it so much more than that, And that is the feminist misunderstanding.

But that that that feminism is limited to the problem is and we still do this, and it's mind blowing and it offends me every time I see an article that's like, whoa girl's trip a hundred million dollars? Can you believe it? Yeah? They we can believe it. We've been telling you the whole time. First of all, if you have a starved demographic and you finally give them something good that they want, they're gonna come out and drove.

So that's first. But second, women have buying power. It's women who will buy stuff that they see in ads. Maybe a white guy will say to a wife or a mom, go, I'm not being stereotypical I'm just talking about research that they'll say, hey, I saw this thing I want. So if if a network or a movie or a TV show is aiming at their eighteen thirty five white mills that they always aim for, they have to realize that those aren't buying the ship that the

advertisers are China. But there's just this not natural but there's just this American and Western and you know everything now because Westerners did whatever they wanted to do with every part of the world, but this natural desire to please and impress white, straight male audiences, Like there's no way that you did the handmaids Tale experience the character that you experienced you yourself for a woman, and say, oh, it's not just a feminist show or it's not an

entirely feminist shows for everybody. If somebody at your network wasn't in your ear whispering, don't alienate white boys, and that's bullshit. It's bullshit because they don't even buy the products that Hulu has the ads for. I just like,

be beholden to that, because that's the validation. I am still craving a real answer to that question because she is not only once, not only twice several times with Top of the Leg Mad Men, and now most crucially and most currently Handmaid's Tale, representing the is like really feminist iconic characters, and it's this hypocrisy behind it, and I think he's like, so ship. Yeah, I know you

mentioned that. I tried to watch it, and I thought the same thing, although the second season has called him in which I was gig, but I haven't watched it. Her best role was playing the daughter of a patient on grades, and she was the overbearing I didn't even know she was on grade. It's like first or seconds. This is like season three. I remember the fucking old lady whose bones turned into stone like petrified bones. Oh

my god. Yes, her daughter was Elizabeth Moss, who was this like who had the dollhouse and had those dolls and was crazy and she was like so overbearing to the to the doctor. I don't remember this, but I will go back on watching if you can send me. Yes. Absolutely, But it bothers me so much because she is so she's great. She's great. It's confusing someone someone. I read an article the other day that was like talking about her as like the number one actress in the entire

world in terms of prestigious television. And I'm like, yeah, you can't argue with that. That's not that's not a false clam you can't argue with that. I mean, she was the lead actress on mad Men, and now the Handmad's tale you cannot argue with Well, that's debatable. If she was the lead on mad Man, it depended on the season, depended on this season. Were a fan, of course, yes, um, And it's embarrassing, but I love January Jones. Yeah, me too. She actually was perfect in that part. I don't know

she was being well, yes, wasn't. But casting is acting, y'all, Like you think any of these people could act well? Yeah, sure. But I also worry though, because I don't know if she knew what Betty met exactly and fat Betty. I think it was comedic that Betty was like, I don't think it was meant to necessarily be that comedic. Well, I didn't have fat Betty. That's your problem, you. January Jones. Feeling the discomfort in that suit is what made me. It was not her being the character being fat. It

was just January Jones failing at this assignment. I don't think think. I think January. Jones actually never felt that the assignment the part was so close. I don't know there was. There were kind of times like it took me three seasons. Spoiler alert, I'm about to spoil mad Man. It's been over. But so when she figures out that, um that Donn is Dick, there's that this is the this is when I turned. I have a lot of these.

I'm a Searcy fan too, because there's these things where, first of all, like women are not allowed to be anti heroes the way that men are. There are female anti heroes, but they don't get celebrated the way that

male anti heroes do. But there's always a moment where there's a woman that I'm supposed I'm being written into hating and then she does some ship and I'm like, I'm witch you, bitch forever with that scene, the scene where so she finds a drawer, yes so season three, I would think, and she opens the King and don comes home, and there's just something about the way she says open it, open it, and I'm like, I'm with

you be terrible to Sally forever, I love you. I had that moment with Serasy like four seasons ago, I'm which bitch, I'm never gonna leave you alone. There was this There was this scene where there was two scenes where I love January Jones forever and it was this.

It was there was a scene I think it was like season one or two where she uh for some business dealing that Don's done, like January Jones gets to model again, and so they bring her in and they put her in all the fancy clothes and they sell her the shot she's gonna be on, and they do test and they put her in makeup, and then they say they put an necklace on her, and then they say at the end of the episode because of something that Don's done, and she doesn't know this, and they say,

we're so sorry didn't work out or actually going to have to tell you that you have to leave said and we're her take the necklace. So she says, oh, that's okay, it's okay, that's totally fine, I understand, and as they're taking the necklace off of her, her face just breaks and she just like she just like she's so disappointed in her. And I was like, I gotta give it to her right there. She made me feel it for a character that you're not supposed to feel it for which is the whole key. And then the

second one was the end of second season. I think it was she realizes that Donna has been cheating and she looks at him and she turns to him and she's like such a child, and she's such an she doesn't know how to process herself emotionally, and I thought this line was written so well, and nothing's a mistake with the writing on that show. She just goes, I want to scream at you, and she it was like this pause between I want and then what she was

going to say because she was scared like child. I was just like, yeah, this is like such a real thing. Is oh my god, is Betty Draper Sertazife? Oh my god? If Betty was empowered to be cruel, she might be service? And then who's Jamie? No, ro Don doesn't exist exactly. Wait, but there's also I loved Betty in Italy. Do you remember Betty? And it's so wonderful when she felt him, she felt She's I'm learned. I'm going to speak Italian. Those were happy episodes that was post like when they

were about to divorce. But you know, Don was still being greedy and that was their escape episode. And then when the episode so set because they got back to America, watched that. No, no, no, because I actually think that Madman is the best television trouble. I Suitcase's incredible work. I think that. I remember I'm that season three finale. It's called shut the Door, Have a Sea. I think it's one of the best. It's like a caper movie almost.

It's incredible and there's like taking over the Yeah, there's so many episodes of that show which are just beautiful, beautiful. And what I what I was thinking about Men and the other day is it was able to become one of the greatest television stories of all time in my opinion, without being violent, without being without being over the top,

without being super sexualized. I mean, I was thinking about that show, and yes, it's true there was and I was thinking there was a rape on that show, um, because I get Greg, And then I don't know if there was another one. Because if we're thinking, if we're thinking about Peggy, she was always comit, not complicit. She

was always um consenting with Peter. Um. Okay, so, but but so many of these shows that are like this is the greatest television of all time, and like it's like gross and violent, and like so many women are getting raped in these shows and it's like a game with those it's just like so out of control. But Big Little Lives was a comment on I actually defend Big Little Lies. I just like it. I like what

I'm saying. There was there was a violence and beyond even just the domestic abuse, like like they kill a man, which right, popular opinion alert, Nicole didn't do it. From me, that's okay to have that opinion to my to my oh yeah you to your credit, you you put race over Nicole. Yes, if I have a ballot in my hands every day. First of all, I had a like, oh I didn't know I like this. I had one of those. And two she basically plays Flicker Flicker. I'm

thinking sick. No, Sicky Flicker is a cast member on the House Eivees of New Jersey. Um. But yeah, so Tracy Flick as a grown up somehow not obnoxious, even with the obnoxious as kids that she had. And I'm not gonna lie if my man left me for Zoe Kravis, I'm gonna have a problem because I'm never gonna feel good about myself again, you know, because you can always be like if a man cheese on you, you can always be like, I have the moral high ground. Yes,

he ain't ship. But then you see Zoe Kravicy, like, oh, she's doper than me. Oh man, that's what it is. There's someone in the fairest of them all. But then she was a murderer. It's been and I say season one because I truly hope for a second they are bringing one back, but I'm not again, I'm not with the second. I will watch. Yeah, but what stories that we need? We need the back story of Zoe Kravitz, We need what's going to watch being a murderer? Oh

excuse me, it was self defense? Self defense or well, it's quite a blurred line there. I'm so happy to talk about Big Little Lives again because when it was on, it was my everything, and now my everything is fucking Bachelor in Paradise, and I hate myself. Oh I tried to watch The Bachelor one season. I watched a season of one of them. I can't remember, and I look. I love trash reality team and I can even stomach and overproduced show like the Kardashians is so overproduced. It's

mind blood. But I don't do well with secondhand embarrassment, Like if you're doing something embarrassing, I feel it in my body. Can't do and Bachelor at Bachelor, all of it is so embarrassing for me when I watched, Yeah, you know, like how the cringe humor of the office are being I feel that watching it, watching Bachelor in Paradise, and it's worse because it's real. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Necessarily it's always real, but I don't. The part of it that I don't like is, at least

on those shows, they're scripted. It's deliberate. I cannot tell if the people on the Bachelor feel what I'm feeling. Right, it's it's like when and they are so cool about it. The editors, they're like showing someone being like, I am so excited about this stage because she's going to say that she loves me when I tell her I love her back, and it is going to be the best moment in my life. And then cut to the other one.

I really feel like so sad that I have to tell him that I don't love him, and it is so sad. And then you see them come together, and you're like, well, this is the worst moment of his life, her life, and my life. I mean, bad for all parties involved. I'll never forgive Rachel Linty never. But also she also, like, just objectively speaking, because I saw the Halle blue about the choice she picked the less hot guy,

the less hot guy. And also, but also to be real, I do follow them on Instagram and they seem very happy. So her kissing him, maybe it's all good. Maybe maybe maybe I was just that mascot. He's an asshole. He calls himself a physician. He's a chiropractors. God you are. I'm sorry. He shouldn't do that. Chiropractors are not doctors. There you go. You heard it here. First, um, let's move on. We're gonna move on to I don't think so, honey. So this is the segment of the show you may

be familiar with. It's where we take one minute to rail against culture. We take one specific that of culture that is just kind of what would you say, just getting at just it just pops our boils on our skin, and you know, usually we'll be thankful for that, but in this case we're not. I'm not thankful. No, let my boil rest rest. Do you want to go first or do you want me m I can go first because so I can speak from the heart. Great. So this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey,

and his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Canker sores, why just explain to me why why God is a god that I have to ask because there is no reason why so canker stores. And I want to say, they are not cold sores, bitch, and is not heard black stars one on my mouth. It is canker stores. And I guess they come on with stress. But you hurt me and I had to drop out of a show last night because of you. I had to feel uncomfortable tonight at another show because of you,

canker stores. There's really nothing you can do for you. I switched around so out water in my mouth. It does nothing. And my mother is like, well, did you do salt water? I said, yes, bitch, I did, and it's nothing. Canker sores. I had you from a young age. I thought want to have my wisdom teeth removed that you, that you would be gone forever. I have some relief, but not enough canker sores. You ruin my presence. I

don't think that's one minute. Oh man. There has not been a moment over the last four days that I haven't thought before I spoken about how much? How much is this going to hurt? Watermelon frost? I haven't at home. You're gonna come with me. I'll give it to you. My culture out there. If you have canker sores, just reach out, reach out, reach out. Let's all former group. Let's let's have a Facebook group called canker sores. And whenever you have one, you can comment. Okay, yes that

sounds could you hear what I just said? Whenever you have one you can comment? You can't. Every continent is a b I'm so sad. I'm sorry. It's been such a stressful time. I can't wait for you to try watermelon frost. Okay? Um? Can I go? Okay? Um? Can you can you leave me in? I don't think so, Honey, his time starts. I don't think. No, you didn't start. My cankers hurt so much. Oh my god, I feel so embarrassed for oh my little sore. Okay, you just

faked me out. Time starts. Oh my can time starts now? I don't think so, honey. That secretary receptionist whatever the fuck. At Warby Parker on Spring Street and Sixth Avenue yesterday during the eclipse, I was told that Warby Parker locations were getting out free eclipse glasses. So I went to go procure some from my co workers because we were all going to go to the Hudson River to watch the eclipse. And I said, I will go to the Warby Parker location on Spring and Sixth Avenue to get

to get fucking eclipse glasses. And I don't think so, honey. When I walk up to the elevator, I see all these people pouring out with the clip classes in their hands. I go, great, they still have the seconds. Walked up the fucking receptionist. I go, do you still hi, do you still have the clips class? And she gives me this look like I've just punched her and I've punched

someone else in the face in front of her. She goes no, and I go, okay, that's fine, and she goes, I don't know what you want me to say, and I go that's all I needed to know, and then I walked away. But I gave her the most daggerized I've ever given anyone before. This fucking receptionist was giving me lip and I don't think so, Honey, don't you ever speak to me that way, especially during the eclipse. That's one minute. You never speak ill of something to

someone else during the eclipse. No, not during the eclipse. Anyway. This she was the rudest fucking person I've ever met. What a specific I don't think a better specifically made me so upset yesterday when the Warby Parker Offices headquarters on Spring Street and sixth Avenue. She has short brown hair. I want to say, let's docks. This person, she should have known better, She should have known better, is horrified. But you know what, that's why you don't cross cultures.

You don't process because I will potentially get you a warning meeting from HR. I'm not gonna get you fired. I don't want to get you fired. I do want to do you will get a what's called talking to a tap on the wrist, a tap slap on the wrist. Don't don't you ever speak to Bow and Yang that way? Wow, someone's head is big, all right. So now we have Ray Sonny who really has done and I don't think so, honey. For the ages, and we're going to have another one, truly.

I meshed up the farm. Oh my god, I feel so much pressure. It's gonna be a Princeton level. I don't think so. Give me one quar second second. What's making me mad? What's making me mad? Come on? You know you have something that's making you mad? Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, ray honny, I don't think so, honey. Time starts now, um, Twitter, it's making me very mad, very mad. I don't think so, honey, Twitter. People who ain't got a blue check. Okay, Now, I

never flex, I never flex. My mom raised me humble. But listen, there's always somebody who wants to disagree with you just because they think that they're gonna get retweeted and flex. Are you listen? When I got verified, I don't even have that many followers, maybe five thousand whatever, who's counting? I am five thousand? And this guy tells me, oh, you know you're not even that funny? All right? Maybe

you know what? Who cares? Here's what I've never done, been an anonymous person and found a person who isn't anonymous to tell them that they're not dope, because you know what, if you're anonymous looking for people to tell they're not dope, you're not dope. And look, that's how she signs off. I will say this. I would five thousand followers empathy too, And how dare you insult unverified? I applied for unverified and they said at this time,

we cannot verify you, and I said I refunded. I was like, okay, bit no, I got the rejection first. I got the rejection first, But then, what do you think we'll do it? And I need it right on a television show? Well, I mean I tried that, and then, uh, our representation, we have the same people. You gotta work on this for me. This is from my ego. I need this bully and I know who you're talking about. How did they respond to it? But she was just

I'm sure she was embarrassed. And then it was like, okay, I'll see what I can do. But happen as she does, so five thousand no, like it's nothing because there are people with millions who I need the blue check. Anyone's out there listening. It's a certain somebody who does a certain thing for another certain body somebody I want for nothing. I just bit a blue chuck either, which I'm fine with for now. Whatever you right, five, I want for nothing. Um, you will get a blue check. You don't get you

a vir check Tomorrow, we'll see, we'll see. Um. That's so funny that you guys aren't talking about her. Wow, what fun inside baseball stuff to leave? Shut up. I only thought about that because I've made a joke on Twitter about uh Matt said he's not a Supports fan, but there's an uh okay, alright, fine, but joke. I made a sports joke about Boston fans being racist, and they are, and a boy like lost his mind. It's like an unverified little bit and unverified Boston asked fan.

Fuck you for both of those things. Boston, Austin own up to your racist like Mark Wahlberg, blinded of like just own its Mark Wallburg over the TV Mark Wallburg highest paid actor in Hollywood, blind man, the highest paid hate crimer. And with that, we're gonna call it a rap on this episode of Lost Cold Risos Ray, thank you so much. I'm sorry, I'm sweating and gross. We love you much, We love you. This is so great I mean like at ray Sonny. Come on, come on,

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