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"Haus of Cultch: More Categories"

Aug 11, 20212 hr 32 min
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Matt and Bowen, at their lowest, fat, nasty and broke, careers in shambles, come on this bitch mad as hell in an apartment with no A/C to complete what they set out to do: finally reveal all the categories for the Las Culturistas Culture Awards (#LCCA). They also dicuss Natalie Wynn's Contrapoints and apollonion (Natalie/Squidward/Rosario Dawson) vs. dionysian (Mila/Spongebob/Daphne Rubin Vega) personality types, how YouTube landing pages reveal what's in your soul and drag you and your interests to absolute hell, Disney's Star Wars: Galactic Cruiser hotel (is immersion in theme parks going *too far*?), THEE Suicide Squad, how Crystal Kung Minkoff's husband Rob created iconic gay animated cultch, the silver and gold binary, Meghan's last days on The View and what it really means to name your daughter Liberty, the historic moment that was attending Gaga and Tony: One Last Time at Radio City Music Hall, reactions to the already iconic Haus of Gucci trailer, and revelations about Matt and Bowen and their nasty, broke, career in shambles lives. Publicists? Get to work. The #LCCA could happen anytime... and the nominees will be announced... soon...

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Look mad oh, I see you. Why look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, last culture, same room vibes. Although what's different it's time, there's something, there's a different flavor. Were in the down apartment with C Yeah, this actually is similar to last time, though, because we recorded in the Fire Island house that didn't have a C at that time. This house my apartment that I'm in, that

house in Fire Island. Neither of those places are in the running for most iconic building or structure because the things inside don't fucking work well. They are in the running for biggest flap, biggest flop because the jester can we stay right here? Huh? I said, whatever it is, we come. Well, let's make the distinction between jester and a flop because people are kind of there's category fraud

happening where people are, you know. Campaign By the way, we should say that the campaigning that's going on from the publicists now is really beautiful. Yeah, and there's politics at play and we love that, you know what I mean. I mean a lot of people really pushing for Rihanna to be best billionaire ever since she achieved billionaire status according to Forbes, and for her I just think, like,

we don't. We're not gonna go with the obvious. There's gonna be some upsets in this race, Like we as the people who are giving out these awards, we may give it to Rihanna, we may not because it feels like maybe that's too obvious. Well, can I say? It feels like what everyone's doing is they're saying, I mean, obviously, now we have the best billionaire and that actually is

something you never say. You don't ever tell us, don't ever ever ever tell us, don't ever tell us that obviously to a culture number sixteen, don't ever say obviously, don't ever tell us that that is so rude, because first of all, you don't make the you know what, here's the deal. This is not what a publicist does. No publicist comes in and has a reason for why that they feel their clients should earn the status. And if you come in here and say obviously, it's like,

I'm sorry, why is it obvious? Why? Because Rihanna has had many hits, because she's iconic, sure doesn't mean she's the best billionaire. Make a case, make a case. She's barely even done anything with her billionaire status. Yet no no one up for any of these categories is implicitly like the obvious winner. There are no front runners. I don't I can't think of a single front runner in any category, can you know? I can't think of a

single front runner or for any category. Although I do think that there was an incredible I saw someone say aqua marine was the most colorful color and getting a lot of marine is getting a lot of buzz. I don't know. I can't say that's the front runner, but I definitely like, see. This is the thing is like a lot of the publicists have been doing a really good job because we're saying, yes, the publicists. Do you think because I made it official on the Twitter, I said,

from now on, readers are the readers? Are the publicists? Well? Yes, during this era we're calling the last Scholas Cultural Awards era, you're not readers anymore? Is it? How? How is it tied to the error or do we think that they're just the publicists until the campaign is over, until awards season is over. I think in this era of the

award lost culture Awards season era is not the season. Okay, then you're so right, and during the season they're publicists, but then we go they go back, they go back to being readers, and they'll always be readers. Only during awards season will they be publicists. And the awards season of Lost Culture is of course the last part of July August and then to be determined, because we still don't know when the awards will be, isn't that right, Bo,

That's absolutely right. We don't know. We don't know, And I think that's the beauty of Lost Cultures a Culture awards is that these are unprecedented in so many ways. I think it's just gonna be a Wednesday drop. I think no one's gonna expect it. It's just gonna be

a Wednesday drop. But I think there will be a sustained campaign from the publicists until the award shows, until the until the awards are announced, and so there's no such thing as least expecting it, because I think the publicists are working so hard that they will always be expecting it. We are just blue bawling them until that Wednesday drop, and we don't know when that is yet. But I think for as long as the awards don't get announced, there will be publicity, there will be campaigning.

At least there should be. I think they need to keep up this fervor and at all times because you don't know when the awards will be. So what I'm saying is on Twitter, you should be if you really are feeling passionate about a category, you should be tweeting that every day. Yes, I want to look at your feet and see only for your consideration hashtag l C A S and like I don't want to see other things, like I want to see you really campaigning. Because the

Wednesday drop could happen anytime. It could be next week, it could be next week. It won't be next it won't be next week, and it won't be today because today and this week we are announcing. Can we spoil we're announcing the rest of the category. We are announcing. This is the rest of the categories, and there's some incredible ones. I think there are some of the most exciting ones. These are some of the best categories of all time. I don't disagree. I would never just agree

with such a statement of my own. I how often do you disagree with yourself? Probably about the things I say I either hear later or right afterwards. I'm like, well, I disagree with that. That's but I would never admit that right away. Sometimes it's just good just to fill

the air by saying something yes, yes, my life. But actually I would, I would, I would try to even lower that number, because there's something that's not even that valuable about, you know, turning your own critique within inward. I don't think you should really, I think you really should stand by everything more things that you say than you are now. Well, there's a difference between owning it

and standing by it and disagreeing with yourself. And that's just that's just anyone that's sort of like taking a persuasive essay of course, or like you know, like an has done like an argument class, or like what would you call that speech and debate. Yes, knows that you often have to just be able to argue points that you do not believe in. That's also sort of politics too, that's also sort of politics. No, we let's get dark. Well, actually I want to point out something I'm on This

ContraPoints kick as people know. Um, she said something in this misrecent quarterly release. She she drops these like ours, she is for the girls, that she's Natalie Whin, she's this like philosophy, she was an academ and no, she was like she was, she was like getting like her master's anyway. But now she like she's on YouTube. Um,

I'm sure some people already already like just die hard fans. Um, there's a very active community around uh what she does, and like there's just fun like aesthetics to all of her videos anyway. Um, but she said something, I mean, I won't contextualize what it what it is, but she says, you notice the feeling, but you don't have to endorse it, which is totally unrelated to like what she actually talks about in her most recent video, which is about envy.

Oh my god, you have to watch it. You to Gina, well, what did I call you before a Porsche today? Your name was Porscha. I don't know why might supposed to call you a portion today? It was well, and also we're going to get into some name ship later. It was one of the categories has to do with names. So let's just say, you know, to be continued with that, putting a pin in that though for now, as you

often do when you want to return to something later. Um, yes, I was really thrilled with what you told me before about what was it the Dionysus and the Apollo. Could you explain that and how it how it sort of lends to the black Swan narrative as I call it. She brings up so the whole the whole thing is about envy and about how envy is like weaponized into like morality in a lot of ways and politics and in the world, and so like she talks about like

um fire. She begins with fire Festival, being like that was like the funt that was one of the best stays on Twitter because it was shot and freuda on this huge scale, Like look at all these like influencers and rich people suffering UM, and like at the root of that is like or or or you know, like at the root of that is envy in a way, right, It's like some people were like in some ways envious of the people who got to go maybe not completely,

but like that's like that's the root UM. And then she talks about how envy is this like timeless universal

it's it's this human thing. And then she brings a Black Swan because that's that that story is about envy in a way, like her mother envies her um when no no writer and envies her in some ways mean lookunas envies her, like the woman the dancer that she was, like the actress who calls her like a bit or something at one point, like after like the cast list, after she gets like casts like the black and the White swan, like there's a random girl who goes up

and it's like you fucking bitch, or the horror on the me, you know, like it's it's a movie about envy, right, and she also like she as a character that envies so much about Mila Kuniss effortlessness and she and she she wants and wants and wants so much and so um. Then Natalie starts to talk about Natalie Win, not portant,

not importman. Natalie Win starts to talk about, um, this like this other model of envy, which is like in SpongeBob between squid word and SpongeBob, squid Word and the SpongeBob in a way because you know they both work at the same place and yet squid word envy SpongeBob's

like childlike nature in a way. And she said, she points out something really interesting, which is that like growing like people my age when they watch SpongeBob, as kids are growing up, they identified with SpongeBob, and now what happens is when they watch SpongeBob as adults, they identify

with squid word. And so it's this thing of like, you know, as you age, like having your ambitions tempered, or like being like disappointed or beaten down by life anyway, and she then breaks it down along the lines of artistic impulses as defined by Natsch. I'm so sorry this is so annoying. There's Apollonian impulse, and there's Dionysian impulse. Either you're an Apollo or you're a Dionysus, and a lot of times it's the Apollos who had be the

Dionysis is the diet whatever um. And it's that like Appollo, if you're an Apollonian artist that you like are are driven by like order and morals and like structure and like wanting to be perfect in a way and wanting to achieve an ideal or as if you're a Dionysian, you are like someone who just is carefree, driven by driven by instincts. I feel like that's you and me, babe. Well that's really really absolutely when you can really boil it down when you say that someone is the Melo.

You are saying that they are giving onto their Dionysian instincts in a way that is um leading them forward. And then yes, clearly the Apollonian or he that has more to do with Natalie Energy, academic fish, the White and the Black. Yeah, you understand well then and then she and then she talks about how Black Swan is ultimately about if that character's journey is about her like embracing both, like finding both, like the Dynasian and the Apollonian actually plays the black in the White Swan in

the same in the same show. And then like once she achieves that she dies, you know, right, that's I don't know, well, it's almost saying that in terms of like it's almost like an argument about nature, and it's like you really can't um pretend to be someone that you're not without at a cost. I guess is that

would that be fair to say? Sure, like you have to like it's it's it's not it's not um it's not realistic or sustainable or something to like have it and like have it be like for you to inhabit like all of those things in one in one form. How did you find this person. Um our friend of the pod, Cody Silver introduced me to her. Yeah, we love Cody so much, Cody, check him. Check them out on Only Fans if you haven't already. Some of our greatest minds are only fans between Cody and Time Mitchell.

Those are like to the smartest game in on the East coast, I think. And you're breaking it down by coast. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what this landscape is like on the West coast, in the south along the Gulf, and I don't know. No, don't say that. You're being very flyover steady right towards me. Um. But anyway, you should watch You should watch them, babe. I would like

to watch them. I I honestly like I spend a lot of time on YouTube, but I would love my landing page to be filled with things other than what it is. That's what I'm trying. I'm actively trying to make my algorithm like not think I'm a dumbass because it's all just like video game reviews and like Taylor Swift compilation video. It's like, it's not that those are bad things, just like I want to see something different.

It's getting to the point where it's like, you know, I actually like sometimes maybe some readers will identify with this, but I will sometimes go to my landing page and then I'll think to myself like do I have more than three interests? And then I'm like, wait, this can't be true. I have to be interested in more things than these three things. Oh my god. This this literally happened to me like recently, where it's like I forgot that I was interested in this thing, which was for

me like video. This is so stupid, like video. I was like, I forgot that I love like this stuff. And it's because like the algorithm is reflecting something back at you where you're like, I guess this is who I am, and then you begin to self identify that like that way, and then you're like, oh but wait, it's like reduced me down to like three things, which

is like drag. Like my discover page on Instagram is a whole different thing where it's drag, race and Pokemon, and I'm like, this is that just feels wild to me because I feel like you don't talk about those things too much not but it's like I'm feeding the algorithm. I like tapping on these things, so It'll be like some stupid like Pokemon meme and I'm like, oh, I guess that's funny. Um, and then I'll just like hit back. Then I'm what I'm sort of returning to the algorithm.

Is I like this? Give me more? Yeah? I wonder if I'm to go to my YouTube landing page literally right now, let's go, let's go, let's do this. Okay, So I just typed in YouTube dot com. Okay, so here, this is kind of crazy. It's one thing from the view. Kirsten Cinema defends her support of the filibuster christ Christian Cinema is in the running for a lot of the j She's truly flopping. Um. And then there's an ABC News Dems holding Governor Cuomo accountable re establishes. Okay, wait,

so you've got like culture accountability. I have some new stuff. And then I have this. Um, there's this gay named Adam who runs this YouTube page called up in Adam and he does like housewives, like news and Housewives. Beverly Hills producers are preparing to turn over to on aired footage of Erica Girardi to help the cases. Oh my god.

Then I have an access Hollywood thing, which is just in terms of mourning the death of his longtime backup singer Nicolehurst, which actually is a devastating story that this woman who was I guess one of the Tennessee kids and she passed. She has she had cancer and um, it's very sad. A lot of people in music or mourning her. Then I have, uh something from this is so embarrassing, and this is how I'm going to be vulnerable on this pod. I have Disney's Magical Express replacement pricing.

So this is the I followed. I don't follow this, but it's called Mickey Views and it's like a theme park or Disney like update whenever there's like construction or whatever. And this is updating people that are freaks that go to this site about the Magical Express, which is the busting program replacement pricing. So I thought the Magical I thought I thought that bus service was free. Girl, I don't know. Well, Disney is going, let's get into this

a little bit. Disney is a book wild because they you know how, they got rid of their annual pass so the Disneyland. So it was this thing called the Magic Key and the prices are insane it's like truly so much more expensive than it ever was, and it's like who can afford this stuff? Did you hear about there's like a Star Wars hotel that you can stay in. I think I told you about this in Disney World.

So it's like it's called the Galactic Cruiser. And basically you go and it's a two day experience, and it's truly like for two adults, it's it's like really expensive, or maybe even more than that, maybe it's like forty eight. It's like a really really expensive. So it's a two day experience, and basically what it is is you go and you go into space and are basically staying on

a on a galactic cruiser. Yes, so basically what they suggest the schedule, which is that you take a like uh, like a bust that's actually like a space transport into Galaxy's edge itself, and then they have you want to schedule like this is when you do Rise of the Resistance, this is when you do the Millennium. You do not have to book yourself. It's like one of the perks.

But they basically like while you're in saying in the hotel over these two days, you interact with the staff who are obviously all in character, and you were supposed to live a Star Wars adventure. So for people that really want that next like almost like Westworldian step in admmersion, that's what they're doing now. And so on my YouTube landing page, I get constant updates about like what that

say saying. Basically, my pull is when they I knew it was going to be so crazy expensive, So when they announced the pricing, I was like, who the fund can afford this? This is gonna be wealthy people only. Yeah, And also can we just talk about like what is the value in immersion anyway? Like I I'm fine with like a renfair thing, but I feel like, what do you like? Who cares if you like talk to like like staff who are in character. That's like my I like that, Like I like a very thin application of

that somewhere like Disney World. But I'm like, I don't want to. I don't I'm not gonna pay more money to like believe that I'm in a movie. You know what I counterpoint? I would say that is actually the part that makes it really memorable for a lot of people, And I think it makes it memorable for a lot of children. But I guess what I'm what I'm rubbing up against with this now, is it's so expensive that it's only going to be giving that to like a

select handful of like very wealthy children. And I also think like it's the weird it's like weirdly like it seems like it's for adults. Um, but the immersion of it all, it's like, as long as it feels like you can still go off and do whatever the funk you want, Like I'm cool with them giving it a shot. Like if people want to pay for it and want that experience, like, go for it. But it does it would feel a little weird to me to be on

a two day schedule. That's like, in order to get your money's worth, you have to follow this exact thing, because that to me would make me feel a little insane. And you are on vacation which is supposed to be relaxing. But then again, people who are very goaloring died and like, um, you know, checkpoint oriented, like maybe would like a vicuation

like that. I'm saying the value prop for me is that you get to go, you get to go and rise of the resistance and not have to like get up literally at the ascrack and so yeah, so that's like a big part of it. I guess, like part you get to go on Rise of the Resistance um and not have to wake up at like seven in the morning and make a reservation online and like do the whole thing, which is also restrictive to people who

don't have mobile phones, etcetera. But also I I don't know that I just the way you describe it to me, I'm like, I don't really think I would want to. This is we won't go. We'll go say at the hotel, thank you? Where the where you don't have to follow any Swans story? Okay, Well, I'm just saying like even if you okay, like let's say you were to like pitch me like that experience for like Zelda, like something that I really love, I'm like, I'm not gonna pay.

I don't care. But that's I guess where we forget people with Star Wars are I know, I now, I know, I know, But like there's also not a very high capacity at this hotel. So what's gonna happen is it's going to fill up? Ye see this is and then it's like why do we do it. It's it's it's like classic like marketing stuff. I don't I don't even know what I'm talking about, but it's like it's the reason why like ps fives are still hard to get it. But there's no actual real reason for them for them

to like not manufacture more. It's just it's it's it fits into like a specific sales schedule for them. But um, I was gonna say at the end of the day, though, not to be like reductive, and I and we love the parks, but you're you're still like in like a fenced swamp, like that's all that that's all the Disney property is in Orlando. And I'm like, you, you might as well just like pay for like a nice luxury hotel experience. That's great, But to like theme it so aggressively,

I'm like, that feels scary to me. I think it's just not for you. And I no, no, no, that's and I think that for the people it's for, that's great. It's just it's so expensive like that. I'm like, this is not available to everyone. And if I was someone who was in like a low income family or even the middle income family, and I wanted to do this and I saw what it was priced that it would

just demoralize me. It's great and like that's and I I really you know what, I almost hesitate to say this because they own everything, but it's like, you know, Disney is so about the bottom line that it's just it feels a little like everyone's about the bottom line. Well, everyone is about the bottom line, especially as we move forward, and like you you it becomes more and more clear.

But like but then anyway, anyway, regardless, there is a live Tyler Architectural Digest home Tour which I'm really excited. I'm really excited to watch that. Um and there is actually shout out to Trixie Mattel. I have the pits stop UM All Stars six episode eight to watch with Raja. This is not that damn it. This is like you have a pretty good no. Yeah. Then there's a Clarkson It's Quiet Uptown from Hamilton's cover. If I refresh, it says what um uh oh bang bang my baby shot

me down live from live live Goga performance. We have to talk about that happen before we get into all that. Please tell me what's on your YouTube landing page is it damning my Probably my first one is um because I have like thirty seconds left in the in the Envy ContraPoints is that contra points video. My second one is a recipe for Korean boogogie bowl um from this YouTube Chuff. I really like. Her name is marian Um. It's not it's not some kin long gust and it's

not monchy. Those are like two other really popular YouTube Korean YouTubers that I really like. Anyway, my my YouTube is mostly like recipes, even though I don't fucking cook. But but can you admit to watching a lot of food related recipe stuff on so okay? That's kind of interesting and cool? Are you? Are you sort of trying to dip your toe into the No, I'm just like it brings me great comfort. It's like it's like to watch it happen. It's like it's it's kind of this.

I understand why people watch like muk bung videos of people eating things. For me, it's like, I really am relaxed by people making food. We have to watch cooking with Paris. I hear it's like not a cooking show that well, I hear it's someone posted before just like She's sitting with Kim Kardashian eating something, and it was Kim takes a bite of something and looks at her and goes like this like she's enjoying it so much, and her face is just like, oh my god. I

just like watching them eat was like really satisfying. The like she sat down and ate something with You would like muk bong and you would you like watching people eat things? I think, I well, then I well, here's the deal. I get so hungry. No, me too. I always get hungry when I watch the cooking videos and I want that, and you're probably happening at night. It's

probably happening at night. But I even do this when I order like delivery for lunch or dinner, like I will, I'll order dumplings and then I'll look up dumpling videos and it's like so funny. They are really satisfying to watch a watch getting made dumplings. Yeah, yeah, like I believe on Beverly Hills earlier this seasoning Crista wasn't Yeah. That was so sweet. By the way, Crystal Kung Minkoff was on the podcast Andy's Girls, hosted by Sarah Gally.

It was an amazing interview. She really gets into She really explains, I'm such a huge fan. We love her. I would like to reach out to her, out to her very first housewife, but she she um. So Rob came into the interview. I guess they were staying together. She was in New York to do Watch What Happens Live and do you know this? This gagged me. He did the original character design for Ursula. Oh my, he drew Ursula. So they were he said in the interview.

He like popped in and talked about this. She hasked really amazing questions. Great job, Sarah, um. But he was like, you know, originally the character designed for Ursula was going to be very Joan Collins. Well, they and then that design ended up being in the second movie as Morgan or sister. Yeah, so he said he has an idea. He I guess his roommate was like, um, this gay guy who would who was into divine and would dress

up as divine. And he was like, we got into divine and like drew the very first image of Ursula as like a very volup. Yes. So Rob was an animator and he and he also worked. He wrote an early draft of the story for Beauty and the Beast, and that's why by doing all that stuff, they gave him the responsibility of directing the Lion King. But he robbed Minkoff. Crystal, the Kung Minkoff's husband is why we have Ursula the way we have her, and probably why

Pat Carroll was cast. God, that's so great. And she she went so into like how she used the word violated, because when I fully am on crystal side, she really opens up about how hard it is with the eating disorder and her body image to be on the show. And she they had such an emotional conversation. It's I really recommend listening. We love Crystal. I'm sure we talked

about this on the Pond maybe. But if I'm Chris, if I'm naked in a room and then someone walked in, walked in and didn't immediately withdraw or like close the door, if if like Sutton kept walking into the room even to quickly drop the thing off, I would have been like,

what the funk are you doing? It's it would be so upsetting to me anyway, especially when you take into account like the specific issues that Crystal deals with which she has um elaborated on on the show a little bit, but has really got into on this one episode of the podcast. If you're a fan, you should listen. Um was was really really great, but I couldn't believe that

he was responsible for all that. I just thought that was so cool, and he was like, yeah, I'm like truly a kid at heart and a nerd and like, you know, like, and he seems very cool about her being on the show. Artist. He's like, really, okay, what's that? What else? What else? Um? I have a play through of the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles. It's this game I'm playing. Um. It's a courtroom game. It's the Japanese game AIM where

what would you play as a lawyer? I love that And it's so fun and it's like and you're supposed to like there's like an investigation part, but you're supposed to look for clues and evidence and then you have to bring it to court and then present and you have to like it's almost always about taking one villain down who's like making you seem like the bad guy. It's so it's so satisfied. Um, Okay. Then I have uh New York film Academies Q and A with Elizabeth

Olsen I have so much. I have a lot of Elizabeth like um, and then okay, I have four more. I have the hot ones of Matt Damon. Unfortunately, because I watched Hot Oh my god, I had the hot one and I didn't say it. Shame and why is that? I didn't want to bring him up. I'm sorry, Okay, let's move ONCT. Yes you retract. UM. I have these two straight male doctors talking but dermatologists talking about exfoliation tips.

That's that's my skincare YouTube blade. And then I have Unfortunately, I always see SNL sketches because I'll just like, like you all wake up on a Sunday and be like, oh my god, I want to watch that sketchy and not even I'll be like, I want to watch that thing where Heidi plays the cocaine wife. I often get like Bowen Yang things and I'm like, is it because they hear me talking about it like it's so funny. It's like it's like, here's what Bowen did on s

n l LST Night. I'm like, it's so funny that it knows. But I guess it would give that to any fag, not any fag, not the ones, not the ones who don't stand me. Um. And then maybe that's why. Maybe that's why. And then I have a jerk chicken meatballs recipe from New York Times. It comes it's a lot of food. Anyway, I'm now seeing I have a lot of music, so I said Maggie Rogers performing say it on the Tonight show. Um. And also there's there's one headline that I have to say out loud because

it's so funny to me, problematic roller coasters. And then, by the way, this one that says unforgettable moments from Megan McCain co hosting the View, which is from the Views channel and she is officially done, is especially out of there. I mean, what do we think her next chapter is besides being our producer producing the show, raising her daughter Liberty. That's right. She's just so on the nose. It's so it's so crazy. The daughter's name is Liberty.

What do you know what like maybe maybe they'll call her Liberty. I just can't imagine being called Liberty. And then again, I'm not a McCain, Like, I don't know, it's I don't know. It's like she's even like on the nose in terms of like being a woman who has gay friends. It's like with the hair, it's like you're so so like like you're you're like an insect on the ground. You don't even have any perspective on like what things look like an inch above the floor.

I'm sorry I being so toxic. I mean, just the fact that the daughter was named Liberty. I was like, I really was, like, I mean, it's just it feels like who is it for. It's not for the not for the kid, like she has to live, it's for John on mccame. And that's just I guess that. And you know what the thing is, Sometimes it just feels like she's like stunting to prove a point or to be like, no, I actually do walk the walk. My daughter's name is Liberty, and it's like, yeah, but now girl,

that girl's name is gonna be Liberty. That's I think that people don't sometimes understand that when you name your child something, your child lives with that name probably most of the time, I'm gonna say, at the time, for the rest of their life. Yeah, it's so funny now to be in a nage where like you'll you'll watch like Gwyneth Paltrow and an interview being like, yeah, Apple was saying this, and I'm like, oh, yeah, there's a human being out there who has accepted the fact that

their name is Apple, Apple Martin. And here's the deal. If this is this is actually something I really think. It's like if if you are someone with a name, if a last name that's like Martin, then you can get away with an exotic, weirdo first name. But like, I don't, I don't, and who cares, Like, name your kid whatever the fun you want. I just want people to understand that when you name your daughter Liberty, like then she has to say, Hi, I'm Liberty. No, there's

nothing wrong with the name Liberty. I guess no, not Liberty McCain. Where I'm saying that Liberty dominance for Mega mccannaby who she is to name her daughter Liberty because it's in some ways it recalls like her lineage or something. It's like, that's what's upsetting to me. I'm like, oh, you're reminding us that your dad was a senator and that you are love America. It's so pathetic. Whatever. I just feel like, I don't know, it's just anyway she

uh blessings to her, so well, work. We can't wait for you to work closer with us. We can't wait for your want to take even more firm hand on the going goings on of this podcast. Moving forward, Thank you. Let's talk about another icon, blonde icon. Wait, were you disappointed that she didn't come out? So you guys, we went to go see Lady Gaga and Tony and she sang bang bang, which she did. She didn't come out of the black curli like, which I really wanted, I

really wanted. But no, it's fine. She she I think she wanted to like keep it. I don't know, It's like simple, and I think she understood that this was like Tony Bennett's last concert. Oh my god, I can't believe you guys. It was so special. It was to really get real for a second. You you said this the other day, you were like, it was a historic content. Don't almost agree, which which I agree. It was an historic moment and his um. I will say, I think

there were forties standing ovations throughout the night. Ult yes, so, and we were up for every single one of them. I will say, I think we lad some. I let her I literally left out on my chair, so many we we were so like lucky to be there, and I will so just to walk you through what happened readers. It was Tony Bennetts last night. It was Gaga came out and probably did like an hour right, and then

she left the stage killing it. She's sang She ended with Lavan Rose, which was like huge, and she said, I would not have sung this song if Tony didn't tell me too. And then the indication there is like because Bradley Cooper saw Gaga saying that and it was like, you have to be in a stars like like I could tell the Gaga is basically communicating like I would not have maybe would not have gotten the Stars born if it kind of been for my friendship with Tony

and she and she's sang it unbelievably. Well, you guys, this is what I'm saying. If you don't love Lady Gaga, you don't love yourself. And I am I'm doubling down on a girl like she was absolutely alive in her performance.

She's really one of the best we have. She like is a perfect vessel for like so much music history, and I think she was channeling and I'm not just saying this because of the coincidence of it all, she was channeling Barbara, she was channeling Judy like it is like that's like that's like the lineage, Like that's like the new supreme logic. I'm sorry, I'm sorry make that like reference. But it's like she is like she's carrying this legacy from now on. And then so so she's

saying Lavian Rose. And then as a way of introducing Tony, she was like, I'm gonna bring out Tony Bennett. Now you guys have to make this a night he will remember that. Make him smile, make him laugh, make him feel at home. And she sang new York, New York. She's saying she and then she threw on this this jewel and crested top hat and fucking belted the ship out of New York, New York, fucking jumped around the stage,

shookar asked, Sugar Tits did all of it? Just like got this room of thousands of people at Radio City just like camped to like welcome Tony Bennett. And then he came on stage. Didn't miss a single fucking no. This is something that you need to understand. So like when we say he did not miss a note, a word, and beyond that, just like an articulation, just like every word meaning something real, like real performance. Now, it was

his ninety five birthday. The man is nine, so he's been doing this for like I'm going on eighty years. Understand that it's so in his body that it was just such a sight to behold. And I do believe that. You know, he's obviously in his very old age, like

this was his last show. It's crazy to say that, but I think he has declined because he could really only say right, so he's he's he's obviously declined, but he could really only say in between songs like wow or beautiful or beautiful audience, And he couldn't really say much, but every word of every song was there, and you enjoyed it. When he's sang smile, Oh my god, that's when I lost it for real. That's when I lost

it for real. And then so he's performing and she comes out and he says, Lady Gaga and they then they sang about four songs together, and this was really the moment of the night. She turns to him and she says something along the lines of Mr Bennett, I just want to say, on behalf of everyone here and on behalf of everyone in the world that has enjoyed your music. Thank you so much for gracing us with your talent that has changed the world for the better.

And you are one of a kind. You're a legend, you always will be and it would be my honor to escort you off the stage. And there it was just not a dry eye. And it was like two three, four minutes of like Gaga and Tony Watt slowly walking off stage together and everyone on their feet clapping, sending

this man off and him waving goodbye. It was so surreal. Yeah, I was just I got really emotional at one point because I was just like, this is truly a moment of like not not just exaltation, but this is what he deserves, you know what I mean. Like it's a true music legend and there are so few that have been done it for that long and it really just it made me so like proud to be This sounds so silly, but it made it's proud to be in

the arts. It may be proud to be a New Yorker, it may be proud like to be a music fan, like and it really was. I don't take for granted that we were able to go there, like we are so lucky, unfortunately, like to be able to have seen that, because you know, these people are not here forever, and it's it's important to try to go out there and

see that. Because I was so emotional, because I was like, this is truly a person who has impacted so many, who is getting the opportunity for people to scream their love for him and support for him. And she got that, she knew her responsibility. She took it so seriously that someone has impacted her so much, I think culturally, musically, socially, as a friend, you know what I mean. Like it's just so it was just a perfect night. There was um and shouts to Radio City for requiring proof of

vaccination for everybody. Um going in wait, I want to read this thing. Apparently they're making a documentary and I think, yeah, they're filming it. They were filming it too. Um, but like there's there's gonna be like BTS stuff. There's there's just like passage from Okay, this is like from the a ARP. So the a RP like did some right up about Tony and Gaga, like leading up to this concert and like specifically with the focus on his battle

with Alzheimer's. But okay, here, let me just read this, because I don't think we're ready for this documentary Tony was doing. But Tony was a considerably more muted presence during the recording of the new album with Gaga and raw documentary footage of the sessions. He speaks rarely, and when he does, his words are halting. At times, he seems lost and bewildered. Gaga, clearly aware of his condition, keeps her utterances short and simple, as it's recommended by

experts in the disease when talking to Alzheimer's patients. You sound so good, Tony, she tells them. At one point, thanks is this one word response? She says that she thinks all the time about the Tony looks at her wordlessly. Wasn't that fun every night? She prompts him, Yeah, he says, uncertainly.

The pain and sadness in Gaga's face is clear at such moments, but never more so than in an extraordinarily moving sequence in which Tony, a man she calls quote an incredible mentor friend and father figure, sings the solo passage of a love song. Gaga looks on from behind her mic her smile breaking into a quiver, her eyes brimming, before she puts her hands over her face and sobs like, oh my god, this is this is so like it's such a special, tragic but ultimately like that, the thing

about that night was that it was joyful. It wasn't ever, it never really dipped into sadness. No, it did not. And that is a testament, I think, to the way to the tone that she said, yes and that was all her and I would say, you know, it's so easy to you know, it's funny, like it's actually her. I believe her grandmother says to her and the Joanne documentarations,

just don't be maudlin. Yeah. I think that maybe it's something that she took from that experience, um, because she was so light and fun and you know, she was twirling in her gown. She had like three three costumes that she wore and they were all absolutely fantastic. Um And you know, he clearly just had so much fun

watching her. And I think that it really was a tone that she said, because it is easy too when something is so sad, and there are a few things that are as sad as um alzheimer losing someone to Alzheimer's um or a degenerative disease like that, like Parkinson's, And it's in my family and I've seen it up close and it is and Boone as well, And I think that it's it's something that you know, you can't really explain until you go through it and you have

someone close to you that's experiencing that. But truly, I think there is something to keeping things fun and keeping things light and keeping things clear. And the message of that evening was very clear, which was we're celebrating you know what I mean. Like and so that was, like I said, like we joke about iconic moments in culture, like and we're all tongue in check and stupid about it, but like, truly, that was a moment that was a moment, that was a moment in time for sure, one of

the top. I think it's in the top. I think that's in the top. It's something I'll never forget you you honestly want to know. Like I I think that will be probably in my top five of my life thus far most memorable concert experience. It will be that when I saw Beyonce du four when she did her four Nights, I went with Colin Quarterpassy and like it inspired me so much and she was just so amazing.

And then I don't know, like, uh I would I would have Mariah my first concert ever when she came out in her sailor look and said, do you like the ensemble? It was my first concert I've ever seen. I was ten years old and I screamed like a fagon next to my dad and and Mathon's now I'll never forget it for as long as I live. But other ones too, But yeah, like that was it was one of those nights where I was truly sitting there and inspired, you know, yeah, oh I was fully inspired.

I was like I just need like I just want to like I just I just I just I just I just want to like take in. I just want to observe her. I I don't know if you caught me. I looked over you a lot, and you were just like enjoying it. So I don't know if you ever caught me. Just like jaw dropped, just like I was just taking it. H I was just like, oh my god, she's doing and study kept I mean when she put

on her top half for New York, New York. She just like struck an angle and held it opposed and held it and then study just said she is so aware of her stage picture at all times, like that as a performer, she knows what she looks like on stage to other people. And that is like that sounds very like shallow, I guess, but it's so important. It's a show. It's a show. It's like she like is so seasoned already as a performer that she doesn't she

it's so it's just so powerful. I don't know, I fucking I mean, I think people know at this point that like we both love Gaga, but like I've been like truly so obsessed since since day one. To me, I'm gonna say something that like is going to get a lot of people like angry, like Gaga is Gaga is Like maybe like I'm gonna say, now, I was gonna say she was better than Ma Donna, But we

don't have to get into that conversation. I just you know what I said the other day, and maybe this is sort of similar to what you're trying to checulate, which is I do believe she is our share I do believe she is a generational like talent who will last for as long as she wants to. Um. You know, maybe if shares talents skew more towards the acting performance realm than Gaga's talent skew a little bit more towards the musical. I that I would say, maybe that's like

a way to distill how they are different. But I believe that they're similar in so many like spiritual ways, like in terms of reinvention, in terms of being able to do so much. By the way, I think the House of Gucci trailer looks good and like camp, and I'd like good camp good. Yeah, yeah, I do not. I know a lot of people think she sounds like

Count Jocula. I think we should wait, and I think, you know, maybe it is a crazy accent, but let's understand, we're going to settle into it and the movie is gonna be what it is, and I think it looks delish. We're all gonna see it. Yeah, I'll see you there. Yeah. Um, I anything else we gonna talk about with Tony and Gaga, just that it was one of the best nights ever. And you know, I'll say he when He'll say again when he says smile. Um, just it's just one of

the most beautiful things in the world. And I also knowing the state that he is in, and um, you know that he was able to still get that message out so beautifully and clearly. It's just it's like sometimes like you hear the right person sing the right song and it just it changes, like the way oh no, you know, like it's it's just speaking before by Beyonce.

I mean that's my whole thing with school in life's like that, like, oh yeah, that was big for you, like like say, truly snapped me out of something dark, like a dark moment. Okay, My only note about the Gaga show was I did want her in a black curley wig and a red leather jumpsuit to sing Bang Bang. That's fair. That's fair. Let's deliver on what we promised. Let's actually deliver on what we promised, because it's important

to do that in life. And uh. We have the rest of the categories for the Lost Cultures to Culture Awards who as they say, whoo whoo as they day. So these are some great categories. When you say, I would say that these are some of the like we

said in the top of the episode. These are some of the most iconic categories that have ever been announced, and I think that we've done really well so far and sort of covering all different areas, you know, best planet, best animal in the s best note ever saw, best picture, literal picture, best ascar, sort of smallest snub. We're covering the whole, all parts of culture, and we have gone even further with these, and I didn't think we could.

I don't think we could get deeper. It's like when you swim out into the ocean and you think, I can't go further, but you shouldn't, but you keep going but you shouldn't. And I just want to say, you shouldn't, but you can always go further. You can always go further. There's actually a really culture number seventy seven in the ocean. You can further, but you shouldn't. And we have gone further in this sense. Okay, So we just want to clear there was some confusion. We announced a seventy third

category on the episode Drop two weeks ago. It was not it was not a category we discussed on the episode. But Matt and I on the day as I made the graphics for the category list, I said, we have to throw in a category it will be the biggest award of the night. This is actually the biggest award of the night, and it is category number seventy three, and it's sort of iconic for the seventy third categories have any three questions vogue much um for it to

be the biggest category of the night. But sometimes, like when the award show goes on for a very long time, you do have to throw in a big category in the middle there. So that's why number seventy three we do have the next category, next category, this is the go ahead Christina aguilera award for coming on this bitch mad as hell. Now, for the uninitiated, there was once a tweet which went as follows, Christina was at her lowest, fat,

nasty and broke career in shambles. She came on this bitch maddest and then the link to moves like Jagger. This tweet has struck a cultural nerve every every gay sis man on the East Coast. We need to have a handle because that gets lost. Are you looking it up? Yes? Okay, so bone is gonna look up the sort of icon that tweeted this. This is this. This account is only it goes only by the letter lowercase J. The handle is at very thick vadge with four jays and the

description is Harriet Tubman fan account. So they're an icon, They're a legend um and I hope they realize what they're called. I mean, eleven thousand likes on Twitter this, I mean, people really, really, really really responded to this.

And this person is obviously a huge fan of Christina's bridge verse on moves like Dagger, which we can agree was definitely a cultural reset, and she came on this bitch matt as hell, and so this isn't where that honors that spirit of just being so motivated by her squalor that you are just gonna fucking give it to them. And in this case, squalor can mean true squalor or you have a cushy job on the voice for I don't know, twelve million dollars a season and a storied

career as a pop star. And also, you are not fat, nasty or broke, You're simply Christy Aguilera. But the sentiment was, at her lowest, fat nasty and broke career in shambles, she came on this bitch, Matt as hell that sentiment it's poetry. Well we should just say that that is a poem. That is a poem. I mean there's a descansion de scansion. Let's just say that, Okay, and I Matt has Matt has already pitched a winner for this

and I cannot disagree with him. So, I mean, publicists, please can paying for this event, like for this category as you would any other. But we already have a really really big contender for that. And of course every category will have three nominees. That's something that Bone's finding out now at the moment. We have a next category, America's Next Top Model. Talk about this. What does this mean? So sort of in the modeling industry, we have young

girls sort of coming up, um, you know more Bounty America. Yeah, you hear about them, the hot deeds, yes, the other hot deeds you hear about um, you know, Heidi Clue, clue. But this is America's Next Top Model. So you may have been aware of the show. I'm I was very aware of the show. Yeah. Same, But this doesn't doesn't necessarily have to do anything with the show. This is a lost culture recess Cultural Award, Cultural award for America's

Next Top Model. Now any anything that any rubric tyra graded on that's not necessarily us know, this is going to be our again subjective opinion that is informed by the publicists campaigning we have next category. Yeah, this is more fashion, this is more fashion. Best dressed rhyme this one rhyme's best dressed in rhymes doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I think it means, you know, someone who has this sartorial awareness, someone who I was just saying, the rhyme doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I just rhyme doesn't Rhyme doesn't mean anything. Rhyme is usually meaningless, and so say that. But I just think it's fun that it's that there's a there's an internal rhyme there talk about this this. I mean, I knew it as a senior superlative. It's a senior superlative. You know, maybe it's something I mean,

is there is there another setting for this? I want I was gonna say summer camp, but no, Like I mean, I think that there could be a best dressed anywhere. Often you see in the pages of the Rags the Rags, well some then let's talk about this is this best dressed during a certain time, in a certain place, at a certain event. This is just best dressed overall. I don't think it's up to us. I think it is,

is it? Because after the publicists convinced this is what I love about the Lost Culture Is Culture Award, It's not really up to us, even though we say it is. When we say it is, it's like we don't actually mean it. I think we're making the decisions for sure, But is it? Because look, I would just say for this I don't have a front runner the way I do for many of the other categories. In fact, I've

already sort of suggested some winners to bowen. But you know, like I said, there's gonna be three nominees for every So this is one of those categories that's like it's a crowded field, a lot of really well dressed people. Can I ask you a personal question, good, when you were in high school, how do you think you rank in terms of the best dressed thing? I was? I was in the gutter. I was you did not compete. I was really face I was faced down, covered in

every kind of gross ship. When it comes to this category, I did not I didn't you were not address not a good dresser. Still, arguably I'm not. I think you're a great dress I'm wearing a T shirt and what are you thinking you're going to wear the Emmys? Um, I don't know, Yeah, we're I don't. I'm I'm figuring it out. You're figuring it out? Because are you still unsure about what the what the whole? I don't know what the hell is going to happen. I just wanted

to ask, you know, did I ever tell you? I famously placed second for best Dressed? Really? I did not win a senior superlative. I placed second in three categories? What were the category best dressed? Attached at the hip with my best friend Kenny Donahue, shout out, love you baby, he's got a baby at home. He's got a baby. I just met the baby. And then and then most Athletic, and I lost to Malcolm Brown. Wow. Um, but can

I just quickly say something about it? And you were most likely to become a SNL cast member, which was the fun which was the sort of um florid way of saying like funniest, like a class clown, but like it should have just been called class clown, because now I got to explain to people, No, it's not it wasn't about SNL really, it was mostly about pretty direct prompt for the for the voters, but most likely to be on SNL, and they felt that was you, and

they were right. One of the smartest high schools in the country. That's that's not true. Girl girl girls like pretty much a girl. Oh my god, Marina um, but it's it's like the best dress was most likely to be on the cover of vote, Like that was our high school. So y'all worked on were doing the most. We were doing the most, to say, in terms of naming of the category. So I did not win a Senior Superlative, but then I did walk away with Problem King, so then you you did end up winning the end.

But you know, so this envy thing is interesting. Sorry to bring bring up content points again, but she talks. She brings up how in a lot of studies, bronze medalists are overall happier than silver medalists because they're they're just the bronze medalists just happy to be there. Silver

includ me. They say, silver medalists are like, I was so close to getting the gold and that is like envy, sort of like coming up and like truly polluting your whole mindset and being like, well, I'm not I'm not happy even though I did objectively better than the bronze medalist. Isn't that weird? And also like, honestly, at bronze you can look at and it's like some some variation of gold, whereas like a shade of gold, it's a shade of gold.

And so if you have someone over the house, you know, and your your medalist hanging over, they could sort of scan over and be like, oh my god, that's a gold medal, and maybe they don't ask about it because they saw the bronze. If you see a bronze medal in the distance, I will have to squint or walk closer to make sure it's not wrong than not gold. It could be gold. But if you see a silver medal, you're like, oh, silver is that kind of play? Silver?

That's actually a culture number thirty three. Silver is iconically silver, unmistakable with anything else, not even gray. No, it's not gray, and it's not even it's not even like people think that silver and gray are like, you know, like companion like colors or or you know materials. Now, do you want to know the queerest thing I've ever done? What I was five years old and there's a video of me.

It was like a like a bus safety thing, like we all have to go in one by one and like we all have to like go in walk and like answer questions from someone about about Like if a stranger ever came up to you, what would you say? So they asked you a series of questions and I go, what's her name? And I said Matthew And they said what what's your favorite um food? And I don't I said, like, I don't know. I like to eat a lot of

stuff cheeseburgers. And they were like I I like, I have a look in my eye like I didn't like this. I don't like being questioned. So they said what's your mom's name? And I said, Katrina. What's your dad's name, Richard? Do you have a little sister, yes, what's her name? Chelsea? And then they said do you have a best friend? And I said I have a lot of friends And they said who is your best friend? And I was like, I can't pick And they're like, what do you do

with your friends? And I go they play with them. I play with them, they play with me. I literally said it like that, I play with them, they play with me. It was very New York. So then they ask what's your favorite color? Without missing a beat, I go silver. Oh my god, I've never been so Julio Torres found dead. I was first. You were clear? Clear? Is this very clear? But that is this is very much the same wavelength you silver. You had this like

confidence in that moment, not competent. It's the only video I want to find. I don't know where it is. I know we have it somewhere, but I was shocked watching it when I said silver, because I would never think to say that, but silver is my favorite color. You're still you're a silver bitch, queen, And I know what You're just talking about the negatives of being silver.

Not number one, No, that's that's like that's really like on a performance, competitive of it, but in terms of the aesthetic, in terms of the look, you are silver. I believe that I am silver and you are gold. And that's not even like online it's pejorative, but it's not like, oh, like one's better than the other. It's just that like we all actually are two sides of the same coin, a coin we don't know as Pokemon

made clear Pokemon gold and silver. Say that silver is arguably in some ways silver is better than some ways gold is, but there are equals. So I would say that you are gold and I am silver, and I am famously red, and you are blue. Yes, that's what we were in cult wares. And then when Pokemon yellow came in, I was just like, I don't know what that's yellow? Study is yellow, studious crystal? Because it was it was the gold, silver and crystal. Sudi is yellow

and crystal. I'm red and silver and you are gold and blue. How does it we? It's energetic, It's energetic, and I love this. We have the next category. This is the National Park Award for Nature. The National Parks represent nature absolutely better than almost anything else. I closed my eyes and I think of nature. I think the National Parks, many of them. But this isn't We're not

honoring the National Parks. We're We're saying that there something out there needs to be awarded for the way it represents nature, for the way it even exemplifies and is the best of nature. What do you think that? Do you think this is. So this is a general category. Be tree, it could be a creek of rock, an animal. I think it could be anything that appears in nature. And it's this happens to be named after the National Parks.

This is the National Park Award for Nature, the best nature, the nature that screams nature, the most not most natural nature, most natural nature. It could be water, it could be a plant. It could bear the sun does the sun and competitive perchance while it sort of gleams over a gorgeous forcechance. Let's let's see. This is an exciting category. This is one of the most exciting categories of them all.

Not the biggest category of the night, but I think because they're so many competitors, I'm gonna be really looking forward to saying what the three nominees are. I think there are some birds that can be double nominees for Dan Burr Best Dan Bird and for the National Park Award for Nature. Oh my god, I mean double nominees. Keenan Thompson found dead, eight Bryant found eighty. Bryant found dead in a ditch. We don't want well, that made me sad. We don't want to live forever. Please, both

of you Okay, this we haven't act to do. The next category, best dress, not a rhyme, a slant rhyme, maybe best in dress. Almost this is a different category than best dressed. This is the best dress of them all. But it's not in the time, It's not in the category title because there's some there're some categories as we know that have of them all. One of them is coming up, one of them is coming up. But this is just best dress, best dress. So interpret that how

you will publicist things that are not included in this category. Pants, pants, suits, shorts, shirts, hats, gloves, socks, shoes, bops. No, I don't want to know none of that. This is best dress. And let's just I'm gonna get really close up on the mic. No skirts, no skirts dress. The next category the Jim and Pam Award for best Chemistry. Okay, I mean kind of our generations, you know, Sam, Diane, Hello, Um. I think this will get a lot of publicist horny.

I think of chemistry. I think it's got to make me horned up. I think I have to be watching them and say, oh my god, are they gonna By the way, let me stop everything right now and say that I might have been, you know, sort of part of a little table read the other day for a certain script. I can't really say much about it because that hasn't really been announced everyone's participation. But I know

you're in a film called Fire Island. There was some chemistry popping off between whom, between many of the actors. It's a little bit. It's a comedy, a good chemistry. I thought. My sisters has some good chemistry with their love interest. Some fine looking men that the readers may know, and perchance we might even have to have guests on this show. I think we will. I encycle the boys. It's a room full of gay man that's kind of fun, but like iconic by b coon Um friend of the famously.

So I think, are you saying that people in this project are competitive in this category? I don't know, Countess Luanne slash Grover Um. Uh, we're going to find out. Okay, we're gonna find out. Grover Grover so cute one of the love grow Yeah. Absolutely we next category, Okay, Tik tac Toe Awards your best simple Game. This is the Tic Tac Toe Award for Best Simple Game. The best games are the simplest, Absolutely King tettress, Mama Tecto Ti

Tacto doesn't win. Connect four. Connect I was gonna say, I literally I did the motion to my sister and he knew immediately what I was saying. Connect four. That's what I love. Um, you know, it's not a simple game. I'm sorry to drag it, but chess you have to sit down and learn it. Checkers, simple games, simple game. Chess. Too many girls doing different things. Yeah, I thought, you man, too many girls doing it. I was like, no, that's the whole plot of the Queen's gamb It is not

enough girls. Let's just say that. Let's say it's rule culture number. Not enough girls in chess, women in stem more like women, women in chess. Let's keep that's a little of culture number ninety nine, women in stem more like women, more women in chess. We have next category, best song on rent soundtrack, original broadwaycast recording, or the film movie soundtrack. It looks like it's not specified. Okay, so it could be Rosario Dawson's version of out Tonight.

It could be Daphne Ribbon Vega's version about Tonight. And that's actually the binary. That's your Rosario Dawston Out tonight, which is which is which is Dionysus? Yes, and then or your Daphne Ubon Vega which is Apollo. No, I would feel like Daphne is just so like it's just we're sorry to say Daphne is Rosario an incredible meaning I thought she was an amazing MEMI. And here's the reveal. The reason why this is on this list is because I listened to Rosario Dawson's tonight. It's an amazing and

she killed it. Mrs Corey Booker booked that book did that rent? Mrs Corey Booker booked that at that for a second you met like you referred to Corey Booker as mrs. And he said, Cory Booker boot to that as inn booked to that that companion. You know, Corey Booker is apparently really committed to being a straight icon.

Love it love for her girl. Now, okay, this is great, and I'm sorry I should say Rosario is Apollo because there's such a precision to her Mimi, and also she carries with her I believe the intelligence to say nothing of Daphnie ruby Vega, but I do believe it's like if I'm just stand for a second, Daphne reuben Vigga

comes from here. Yeah, day, It's like it's like a pelvic thrust of stage presents like her and in the Heights fabulous, but it's Dianey, It's dion her as meani as dionys In because it's just like, hey, it's like like a little sex path and like and Rosaria's Mimi is more like hey, I really like you. She's more thoughtful, yeah yeah, yeah, whereas whereas Daphne ruben Vega is more guttural and that is an important yes, SpongeBob, and then and then Rosario's squid word, thank you, thank you, And

now we said it, we haven't. Next category, the Brenda Award for name that no one gets named now? Are going forward? I you pitched this category to me, and I my jaw dropped. I was like, he's right. No one is named Brenda now or will ever be named Brenda. Brenda Award for a name that no one gets named now or going forward Brenda Award. I mean, if you had just kept it to Brenda Award, I've been like, wait, like Regina Hall and scary movie Brenda, that's not the category,

but it's Brenda Award for name. Oh wait, I'm like, I'm getting a better idea of what this is. That no one gets named now. Oh that's right, no one gets named Brenda now or going forward. And that is a premonition. That's a prediction that no one going forward will be named Brenda. And that is culture. You are making culture. Thank you. We're gonna have more liberties than Brenda's for sure. I just don't see anyone naming their

child Brenda in the Year of the Lord. Now, Brenda could win this category in a walk, but it's really not up to us. It's not up to the public does have to do their thing. We have an next category, most important tye of clothing and sorry, let me take that again. But you don't have to cut around that, Doug. This is just for the reader, for the I'm sorry, the publishers not cut around the publicists to now, most

important item of clothing. Now, this is different than best dress because you're you're you're working with a cat within the category of dress. But this is just to name one item of clothing as a category. Yeah, now here's the thing. The the the most important item of clothing could be dress. You know what I mean, it's not up to us. I think that we have to think about functionality here. We have to think about necessity, but

also important in terms of the culture. You know what I mean that there's so many different variables here at play. So it's important. Is interesting because you can interpret it as a connction or aesthetic or something. This is up to and it's not up to us. That's not what the public says. Um, we have next category, Yes, the

Joy Behar Award for Stand Up Comedy. I think this is such a perfect way of honoring Joy's legacy in stand up You think, you think stand up community, think the greats you think, Um, you know, Jerry Fire, Jerry Fire, Margaret Show, the Four, the four, mount Rushmore, please the house houses stand up. Let's assign them. Honey. Seinfeld feels like Slytherin to me. Okay, So it's Seinfeld, Richard Pryor, Margaret Show and Down Margaret is Margaret's even Cline, Richard

Pyror's Griffer North. That makes total sense. I love it, I really love it. And Jerry Seinfeld is unfortunately Slytherin. We love him, but he's he is I mean, Slytherin is about ambition. It's not about being villainous. There's been amazing Slytherins and incredible Slytherins. Um uh Malfoy's mom, Um, what is her name? Believe her name is? Um Narcissa, Narcissa, Come on, icon Narcissa, Narcisissa. Kind of what? Can I just say? What between Harry Potter and Hunger Games? Here

we go? Those are some stupid ass fucking names. Some of those names just sound so fucking Can I say, I can't believe one of the most popular characters in literature for young adults is name Catanus Catanus or we'ress. I mean, I'm sorry, maybe maybe I'm directing this. I mean, Harry Potter turf text for all time, but for Hunger Games, I'm like, I don't know about some of these names. Girl, Peter, Peter, excuse pa, the lark that's made up? You made that up?

That sounds like a Matt Rodgers gibberish name. So the other day we I smoked out of a new ball for the first time, and um, you named the bowl. Yeah, you have to name the bowl. So this is my thing, Like, once you smoke at of it the first time, you take the first big hit. You exhale, and then you have to name the bowl immediately as it hits in your hands. And I named the new bowl that Joel bought from me. Thank you, baby, Barbara Trenda, I love it.

And Trenda b A R b A r A not the Barbara strays and spelling Trenda t r E n d A Barbara Trenda from District Fourney Like that is like whatever best seller. Okay, we have a next category. The Scream by Edward Munch Award for Best Screen That and that that pain you know, you know the painting. I'm talking about open mouth icon one of the most iconic screams. But there are more screams. They're scream one

scream too. It can be even like an audible scream like you know, um fucking even you've never seen hereditary. I will not see her out like anybody the scream that um ms vera ms ms Verry. No Hereditary, Oh no, no, no, that literally don't know. I take responsibility for this. It's Tony Colette. I'm sorry, yes, but you know I can't

have Vera farming. Your energy isn't a bad escaped me. Um. She's iconically the other one conjuring yes for Tony Colette scream and Tony Colette scream in a certain part of that movie after something happens at night in the morning when she discovers what has happened an iconic scream, and I think you should actually watch the movie for that alone. I have heard what it is, and I think I can actually watch it because so we'll just pause this for a second and say, the other night readers, we

actually watched The Suicide Squad. We enjoyed it. We had a really fun time. It's one of the most insanely graphic films I've ever seen. But it was all like pot stylized. It was like, it was very like it was a little Tarantino. Sorry to bring him up, but it was a little Tarantino. It was pretty like wild violence. Your colleague Pete Davidson got his face blown off, and I was in the bathroom when that happened. I'm sorry,

you missed, you missed, you missed that. I'm sorry. Oh, but pe getting a space blown off, it's very chat It's very like we we we love Pete for getting killed. And this isn't really a spoiler. You goll it happens like very and if anyway, if you care about spoilers for some of the Sad Squad and you're like listening to this podcast, I can't really help you. We have a we have an best Google service, Gmail Maps, drive, YouTube honoring Google, honoring Google. We have next category best

Google Search. Um, porn. How do you tie a tie? When? When was you know when as Christian Channa was born, House of Gucci trailer, When were you googling that before the trailer dropped? Yeah? West Side Story trailer? When before the oscars? Google West Side Story Hugh Jackman height, Hugh Jackman height, when, like you know, Joel Kim booster age. We have a next category, best Apple product of them all? This isn't of them all? Category interesting interesting, one of

the more interesting categories. Apple has had many products, their pods, MacBook Air. Um, you know, uh, Apple Juice the original like remember Apple Juice? Yes? Um? Remember the remember like the colored like max Imax that that we have an elementary school? Yes? Yes? Do you remember when they came out with I pod video? Oh my god, that was a moment of culture. That was literally a moment in culture. And I remember my friend Alison Celo had one, and she'd bring it to art and we will watch wonder

shows and clips on it. Oh my god, Wow, take me back to that time, the quick wheel, the tactileness of the quick wheel. We have. We have an next category wand Division Award for Television. This is an award that honors TV. This award should be given to the program, performer or um moment that changed television for the better in the vein of one division, revolutionary, never before seen um reference. I think there. I think this is a

really important award. This is one of the most important awards of the night because it honors and everyone in television is competing for the one for television, and I think we're both competitive in this. I think we're both really competitive in this. You probably maybe even a little bit more than me. I don't watch this space watch this Space Feel Force coming September two. Why can I say something actually about about the publicists. I'm gonna I'm

gonna put the publicists unnoticed. Okay, I'll hold on hold on to your fucking seats. Slash butts Jurassic Park. Not a lot of publicists campaigning for me or Matt, especially in categories where we're competitive, Funniest Gay Man, Outstanding reality competition host. We even a lot of people are being all tweet and being like they should win best Friend. I can tell you right now that's not that's don't be tweet, don't be sweet, don't be free. I don't

want to I don't want to hear it. Don't be tweets. I just want I just encourage the publicists. If you feel like we we we qualify for a category and that we would have a shot at winning, we would like to be included. I would just like to be included. Is that so much to ask? I would just like to be nominated. Maybe we'll have maybe you and I will lead the nominations as opposed to as someone else,

as opposed to someone else or something else. So we're gonna do another episode where we do where we do nominate. The nominees will be revealed on the show did we not? Did we on the show where we announced the winners. I think there should be a different I think this should be a difference. Okay, I guess there. Work is going to be another episode which is the nominees. That will be huge. It will be one of the biggest episodes of Lost Culture. We have next category, Victoria Beckham

Award for Outstanding Achievements. This is, of course, in reference to her spokes every three questions, Matt, you do you do it so well? I don't know, he asked, like, what do you think of your people who love your performance in Spice World? I thought it was amazing and I'm still basing for my Ascending Achievement awards. This is in that spirit, that award, and this is just an award for outstanding achievement. Yeah, Victoria Beckham Award for Outstanding Achievement.

We don't say the medium. No, we didn't. We we wouldn't. We didn't say it. Um, it's just it's for outstanding achievement. Anyone that's achieved an outstanding thing is eligible for this. We have the next category, Mess Neighborhood New York. Mama, Mama, Many neighborhoods in New York that the great city of New York. Yes, only one will win. Watch this space. We have a next category, Best Neighborhood Los Angeles. Oh

my god, Metropolis. Different different vibes, different feelings, different activities. It's a conversation that we could have and we have had definitively. Though. We're sort of taking a very close look at the city of Los Angeles and asking the publicists, what's the best neighborhood? Is it Los Felis, Is it Silver Like? Is it Downtown? Is it Glendale? Is it Glendale? Is it Korea Town? Does the Grove count as a neighborhood?

I feel like I am in the most wonderful neighborhood when I at the growth, so I would say, yes, the Grove is in. The Grove is competitive? Is it larch Mott, is it Hancock Park? Is it Beverly Hills? Is it Universal Studios? Hollywood? Watch this space. We have a next category, Best Neighborhood Dallas Fort Worth. You didn't see this one coming. There's gonna there's gonna be a winner. We don't know which one. We were not quite familiar

with this. We we just um, we just think that the Dallas and for the Dallas Fort Worth area should be acknowledged. And it's just so often it gets lost in the conversation between New York and l A um and it is it really is the third city. It's it's the third girl. It's like um boeing. Matt Sudi you know what I mean. I'm Los Angeles, you are New York, and right, she would agree. In summer of for for coming soon, Coming very soon. Chris Award for

most timeless name. The name Chris, Christopher Tofer has withstood the test of time. There have been Christopher's Chris's since the beginning, beginning Christ, think about it includes Chris. I don't make the rules at all, and so this is an award that honors another name, maybe a name maybe also Chris, we don't know, but a name that is just as timeless, if not more. And it should be

more than Chris. If Chris Chris is the example is the blueprint, you could say, but oh honey, you better believe that one of these names out there, does it even better? Builds the building the founda yes, period, period and that's on period. We have a next category, Best video game moment. Countless moments have made up video game history.

Eric Gainsborg or getting killed by Saffroth spoiler alert sorry, when Mario jumps, when Peach screams, Mario Donkey come out of a barrel, out of a barrel and into our hearts, tetris. That moment when the pieces connect, when someone gets shot on Grand Theft Auto, when someone gets shot in Golden Eye, when someone gets shot in a playful way in any of the mini games in Mario Party. Oh my god, they're doing like a Mario Party release with all the greatest game we have to play. We need to play

soon with Pat. I'm just gonna say Pat is sort of iconically our third Party girl. That video. I want you, Yes, you need to keep saying Mario because you're from Long Island? Am I saying Mario? Mario? You have to stick to Mario? Okay? What was I saying? Mario? I think for a second year you said Mario Party. It is like, no, don't lose that. Don't lose that. Don't lose that part of you, kid out, don't lose that. Who said that? Don't lose that part of you? Hold it tight. I probably a

lot of people. We have an next category Dragon Award for animal we're not sure as real. I'm still not sure about dragons. They might exist, they might be real, they might not be. I just don't. I can't say for sure. Say for tooth tigers are up in here. I don't know William Mammoth's I haven't seen him the Jodo bird, not um uh Za does. Come on. Yeah, pokemon are included. If you if you have to defeat

it and care for it, it's included. And oh if you if you've ever played Generation to onward, you know you got to feed and care for the pokemon. Let's keep going. In its category Vanilla Coke Award for what happened to that? This is for something explain talking about this. This is for something that we're not really sure what happened to that, Like, there was no reason for Vanilla Cooke to go away. Actually was the best coke and

like people seem to like it. Um I had many many Vanilla Cokes in that time period of my life where it was readily available to us, and then suddenly one day I have to find myself sort of asking the question, what happened to that? So this is the Vanilla Coke Award for what happened to that? I'm unsure of the answer, and we're not going to answer the question here, but we definitely have to honor the one

thing that has is missing. Can I ask you something? Yeah, let's say you're at an AMC theater and you're going up to that giant you know soda machine, the big red one with this with the touchscreen, one of my favorite things to do and one of my favorite machines to interact with. If you tap vanilla, if you tap the vanilla syrup into your coke, is it to me that's not quite the same as ordering just vanilla bottled

vanilla coke. It's not. And I want to thank thank you for saying that up because I would never pretend because sort of what's happening in that machine. I believe they're called, um uh, magical coke boxes, magical coke box, magical magic box. Is you're sort of getting like the runoff of the other flavors, you know what I mean.

You can never purely get what you want. So if I'm to step to that magical soda box, as I call them, and I believe is the official name, I'm going to dr pepper vanilla, which I know is counterintuitive because there's already a vanilla moment in remember, but I want all the vanilla. I'm this kind of girl, vanilla girl. I just I just don't like that they've I just I want someone. I want someone in a factory or a machine in a factory to to put the exact

right amount of vanilla flavor into this cope. It's just it wasn't as God the magical Mr Mr Cookee. I don't think the magical Soda boxes are doing it right there. If if the Coke Bear were to walk into the m c and and see this and taste it, he would say no, He'd roll over in his grave. And

the Coke Bear has been dead for years. We have a next category, Best Taylor Swift pretty self Exponatory Taylor Swift singer, songwriter, icon for former poet, poet, lyricist, pop star, guitar player, acoustic guitar players, guitarist, um, sometimes actress, the best, the best song, the best, the moment of best music video,

could be anything. We have an next category, Best Taylor Swift, pretty self exponatorym Taylor's disrupt pops, pop bit, siren, Siren, um iconic Glancer, iconic glancer, iconic, stumper, supermodel, white girl, stomp, Enthusiasts, electrical guitarist, award show attendee, fashion girl, feud feudor notes, app legend notes, app icon, Twitterer, Instagram, Riddler, Riddler, Riddler, she is, Riddler is Riddler Taylor or Taylor, I'm sorry riddler when she does like the liner notes and she like,

you know, like makes the little puzzle when she's like this is interesting. This is an interesting conversation. Is it Taylor or Taylor when she does riddler riddler stuff? Is that? Is she doing that barefoot in the park for art or is she disrupting lives? I don't think we can answer it time. I think we can answer today. The publicists might want to chime in. We have a next category,

best time. There are how many times during the day, thousands, with thousands of times and thousands of times when things happen. This is the best time when something happened. This is this is one of the best categories. Do you think this is? This is not limited to things that have time that's already happened. This could be time that that hasn't happened in the future. It could be and I'm just don't this out seven thirty pm, or it could be dusk. It could be best time, like the time

we did something. That's time that's this is one of the most I'm still talking about best time. This is one of the most exciting categories because now going forward, we have the opportunity to have our entire readership whenever it's a certain time they celebrate time that during that sixty second period or that second period, you know what I mean, they will, They'll have to they'll have to celebrate. We're creating a holiday. Oh my god, you're so right.

We're now at the D category. This is the final category and that doesn't mean anything, but it's pretty maje, very major. You have the last category Artists of the millennium, the second millennium. Oh no, no, no, that we're in the third millennium, were in one of the later millenniums, were in the third. We're in the third millennium because there was zero two thousand thousand to two thousand, two

thousand two. For this is artist at the millennium. This is I'm reading this as a reference to when Britney Spears presented Michael Jackson with the Team Choice Award or the People's Choice Award. It was the v M A. Yes, that's she and well it was it was for an award that was just like, uh, his career achievement or something. And then she said, I consider him to be the artists of the millennium and then he said to be receiving the Artist of the Millennium Award. Wow, I never

thought this what happened? And it didn't and it didn't but it will now it will. Now we are writing the wrongs of that time for both Brittany and Michael Jackson. So now the publicists know all the categories and we need to find out from you what deserves to be nominated. So the next time we do an episode and it's the nominations, no one feels sad that they didn't work hard enough, and it will be be three nominees. What you say meant nothing, Now I knew what you meant.

Is it going to be three nominees for each category? Yes, it will, it will. I can confirm this has now become The nominations will be announced, and the nominations I don't think we can contain to one episode because we'll have three hundred things to name. I think it's amazing. I think we're going to do it. I think we just do. You know we do Bowen. We literally do an episode which is just the nominations and we don't talk at all. That's not gonna be possible to this.

We we will. There will be shocking moments that we have to discuss and we have to predict the winner. Bowen. When they announced the Emmys, do they stop after every category when there's something shocking and they, oh, my god, well let's talk about that. No, it's the nomination's announcement. It's a part of awards season. You know it's true that, But we'll we'll say, Matt Rogerson Boone Yang and officially announced to announce the nominations of the Lost Cultures Culture Awards.

Do you think there will be any space, space or another allotment of time for us to talk about the races? Okay, this doesn't happen. The Culture Awards is not happening until December. Are we are we prepared to say that? Are we prepared to say that the awards will not the ceremony will not be until December? That this is that this is a five month for a single award show happening in October. I don't know when they're happening. We still

don't know when. We're happy when they're happening. But to say the next episode will be the nominees, the next step out, not not not next week? We gotta have jan On. We gotta do Summer of cun, we gotta do summer of can we gotta bring on. Oh my god, Dave Holmes is coming on the show in September. We're very excited. A lot of fun guests coming up. So, um, well, thank you so much for being on the journey. I I do have to go, and so I think that we will not be doing I don't think we won't

be doing. I don't think so, honey. Um but publicists, now, well, I will be posting the full we will both be posting the full list of nominees. It's just so exciting. I am really thrilled. These categories are so tough and they will be hard fought. And don't disagree which um we we now, of course, and every episode with an amazing song. I was five and he was six. We rode on the horses made of sticks. He won black and night will white. He would always win the fight.

Bang bang, and he shot me down. Bang babe, ground bang baby, that awful sound bang he shoot me? Do you hear more? Listen to the Classic Standards album Cheap Cheek Leading Ganga and Tony Ben. I love you Tony okay, okay by a time stoo.

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