"GET THE GORE OFF THE TV, I'M NOT WATCHING *THAT*!" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

what the mary? Why don't you? Readers? Publicists? I recently I do this every now and then with my sister Matt Rogers, where I remind him of a brilliant thing he's done because he does so the volume is so much that he often forgets. And I was we were talking about the I mean, this is just like a little earworm that's just stayed with me. But on the first episode of the of the Twelve Days of Culture, which is our Christmas underrated last culture moment and time

people don't talk about they don't. You're right anyway, my sister, we were we were playing Mary fuck kill with McDonald's menu items, and he posed to me, mary fuck kill strawberry milkshake, mcflurry or you mix different zodas that the zoda fountains like a suicide for creations. Yes, they were called suicides. My quote my friend, this is not the moment, but my friend said, you know, my gay little ass

was up there making creations. During creations. Basically, you all know, like if you're an adventurous kid with a with a cup in your hands and McDonald's Theta Fountain becomes an endless world of possibilities, you would say that was your first canvas. I think that was the culture that made me say culture was for me, I think, just to cut to it, my first canvas as an artist, Yeah, I guess so it was I was taking I was learning about you know, um ratio in terms of like

and that is art, that is art, the blend. I would be willing to bet a lot of readers and publicists out there their first moment of artwork was at the McDonald's because they were creative, you know what I mean? And their parents that their parents, I think that they definitely looked at them at the soda swap whatever you're gonna call it. It certainly was a soda swap when I was there, because I was swapping her flavors. Honey sounds sexual, but but I but I digress, But I digress.

So basically, what I'm saying is like these parents were watching their kids at the soda Swap and they're saying, what do you think? They said, Let let him great, let her create, let her do she's going to do at the front, and let her find it. And that's how you get Vanilla Coke. You know what I mean? Like, because I thought that's what I thought you were gonna say, And that's how you get Vanessa Carlton, and get Vanessa Carlton. You can't stifle her creative impulses at the soda swap.

She's not going to write an amazing piano indro to one of the best pop songs of all time? Was it you that I was recently talking about this song with I think it was literally I was in I was in the car with Greta. This is what it was. We were driving on large Moon and we suddenly knew we needed to listen to A thousand miles. But it was like the scene in White Check. It was sort of like the scene in White Chicks. Um, Yes, very

much so. And we sort of were just like, we must, we must listen to that song right now as soon as possible. And you know what Greta told me, A little about that song. She she originally apparently there was like a documentary about the song or whatever, like there was something there's some piece of media out there that like takes a look at the creation of the song. And Vanessa Carlton said, Greta can tell us more about this when she comes back on the pod. But Danessa

Carlton said, she did not want to do it. I could fun into this guy. She didn't want to go pass me, but she didn't want to do any of that. She wanted it to just be the same. And the person that was producing the song said, you need to give the girls variations on the last chorus, they were right, unfortunately the right. So that was a moment of at the soda swap, you say, well, but tell her she shouldn't put, you know, vitamin C in there with the with the coke in the sprite, like that's at a

certain point you do step in. And that was that producer. Actually, my theory is that Vanessa Carlton only did two flavor mixtures her whole entire childhood, and when other kids were saying, let's mix it up and give variations, she said, no, I want it to be the same, which is not the right instinct to have as an artist, unfortunately, well especially not as a young artist. You know what I mean.

Can make mistakes, that's what she can make mistakes when she's when she's fighting within herself, Like am I gonna put you know, high Sea in the dr Pepper and the Sprite. A seasoned person who's been in that McDonald's for some time would know that's when you stop. But and you're a young artist and you can make mistakes like that. Guess what. She's going to find herself on the world stage in not so many years, and she's gonna have to have a hit after a hit. And

she only had a couple. She had a couple, but they're great now, that's okay, that's nothing to apologize for. We're not. She's had a great life. I need to finish the reference. I hope, I mean, I think. I think Vanessa Carlton at the McDonald at Thesoda Fountain is one of the most indelible lost culturesta's images. Speaking of art, my sister, I'm reaching out my hand to the camera holding it from across the country. We just created something.

We created something together and in the past of the time and image, and that sometimes is I always say to anyone that wants to become an artist, if you do one thing every day that reminds you who you are, and I'm hitting my chest right now that you're an artist. You succeeded that day, and my sister, we succeeded in creating that art, that image of Vanessa at theisoda up. I'm crying. Do you see the tears running time my face? Vividly? This is the This is an opportunity for the readers

and publicists. I want to see your images. We've given you the auditory imagery. I want to see your photoshops, your paintings, your crayon drawings of Vanessa Carlton as a child at the soda fountain. Use your image. This would be my tip to everyone out there. Use your imagination to sort of think of an image of a time, of a place, of a person, and and send in your ideas of what you thought like. Think of a picture, think of a picture and tell us what the picture

looks like. And that's what we're asking you guys to do right now. Absolutely, um, I am crying with emotion. I was still I still haven't gotten I'm trembling, Oh my god, Titanic vibes, where I we still haven't gotten to the reference. So Matt Rogers saying, start to start the show, dead ass, to start the show, to start the recording show. It was a blend of two different things. Yeah, but then a further blend another soda and the soda

and the soda cup. An inflection of delivery. On the first episode of our Twelve Days of Culture where we talked about McDonald's Mary kill strawberry milkshake, mcflurry soda creation suicide, suicide. I said Mary, I said fuck, I said Mary. One thing, I said, fuck strawberry milk shake and you said, oh yes, get the berry. Why don't shuck? And beautiful onto that

get the berries? So funny. So this blend. This what I tried to do was I tried to give you black china with cut the cameras, and I accidentally brought in something I knew you enjoyed, which was the burying became a start the start the EPP dead as beautiful like sort of culture coming together, you know, true got the layers on this are a wild true creation and culture coming together. I yeah, I feel like an artist today.

I don't feel that way every day. No, no, no, Do you feel that you feel like an artist because you're inspired by so much art around you? Like, do you feel especially like able to create such brilliance as we've already have done on the episode, because lately you're feeling extra inspired. Tell me about how inspired you feel. I really don't feel that inspired, to be honest, and that's okay. I just I think it's one of those things to be honest, where you're with your sister and

something cut flies free, something flies free. It's like you were the other wing to the aircraft that I am the other half of work, and you have to the same plane. You need to. It's actually rule of culture when it comes to on an airplane you need to. Which rule is that rule? It up culture number six. That's so close to being number one, it's not even funny. There's so much culture to talk about. I want you to understand something straight off the top. And I'm talking

to me, you're talking to the readers. I'm talking to you. You think I'm gonna I want to ask for grace. I really, I really tried to watch squid Game. It was too much for me. When did you stop. Can I stopped after the after I started to get going in the first episode, like after Red Light Green Light. I just my god, you're missing out on so much. But that's okay, and I don't want this to become about that. I just want to I want to just

be honest that I tried to watch the show. It put in a state of anxiety and it just got a little too real for me that I had to back off. But I want you to explain to me everything you feel. Well, first of all, oh my god, I just want to talk to you as a sister. I feel like, so this is this is just a conversation, and I might be I might be wrong and insensitive. So please let me know if I am, if you because if you cross over into insensitive, you will let

me know. Please. I feel like you're being insensitive towards me. No truly, I'm telling you, like, no no bullshit, no lie, no lie, no trickery, no fakeery. This is real talk between sisters. If I'm being insensitive, you have to let me know. I think I sometimes feel that I don't get to talk about the culture I love so much that I'm consuming because I mean, this is this is This is true of both of us. Sometimes I haven't

seen or appreciate something that you love. And but whenever, whenever, whenever it falls on me, whatever it happens to follow me, I think, well, damn, I guess, I guess I have no one to talk to you about this. And I feel like I never externalized my feelings about it because because my because my sister is too scared, too too busy to play Breath of the Wild. What was it? What was it about? It was? It was stressful to

figure out because the game is very complicated. In order to even start Happen Switch, you have to go through many obstacles. It's actually one of the most they've been saying this. They've been saying this that there's actually been news reports about how one of the hardest things to do is to figure out how to start a new game on Nintendo Switch. It goes death, divorce, moving, figuring out how to start a game on Nintendo Switch. And let me tell you something, A couple of those things

are inevitable. So when I can just skip one, that's actually okay, and wit can But can I say something real? Which one is the inevitable one? Moving? You're going to get divorced, bitch, and you're staying right where you are, and that in that bleep neighborhood of l A because I didn't want people. I don't want people to know where you load. Yeah, um, well what were you about

to say? I cut you off. All I'm saying is that I want to participate in these things, but this, like it physically upsets me to watch because I'm under such dress. Like it's just it's just not for me. But and and it has nothing to do with anything other than how I physically feel when I'm watching it, because it just doesn't give me the joy that it

gives everyone else. And it's so fine, it's valid, I know, but I feel like it just it works out this way a lot where I feel like we don't I don't remember talk about the ship I like, because no one ever knows what I'm talking about. But but and you're using Breath of the Wild and Squid Game as an as examples. No, No, I mean yeah, those are the top at the top of my hand. Those are my examples. But it's okay. But but I did play

Breath of the Wild. It was just too stupid for my dumb high asked to figure out how to play it. I told you what happened to me in that section of the the ride, the section of the I love thinking about it that way. Video games. You have to think of video games in this way. It's a Disney, It's an Orlando, right that you can ride at home,

aout leaving home. You know what, I'm actually gonna say something straight up, and I know that I have rears out there and publicists that are going to agree with me, because I'm not going to joke around about it anymore. This is the truth. When we were little, we played video games and they were straightforward, and they were easy, and they were fun. I took a break from video games for some odd years. I try to get back into it all of a sudden, they're the girls are complicated.

I tried to play when we were staying at the Fire Island house till Moss was ling. What was what was he playing? He was playing? UM, A bunch of different games he was he might have been playing. I think he's a Fortnite for that's the one. The one that everyone loves is Fortnite. You put the controls in my hands. I don't even know how to go up or down. It's it's pretty intuitive, I promise you. And it's it's over time you learn these things. But I okay,

video games are a specific example. But like at the same time, I have immense grace and I feel bad even bringing this up because I do feel like I'm being insensitive and you didn't call me out on it for even bringing this up. I just but then I think about, oh, well, if Matt is physic for people who are watching Squid Game more physically suffering and like panic and nervous to watch this, then a please do not.

You even said yourself that you said when you came on your story and you said, it's like when people die in this, they die in real life. Like that's that's an observation. That's an observation I have about the way violence is beautifully intentionally per trade and produced on the show, like like certain the way that it cuts to like certain violent things is so raw and you're like, how did they how did they fake that or special

effects that like that That was my only comment. So you're saying that the violence is very grounded and raw and like it's different than like American violence, and that it's it's not as yes I said this to Yes,

it's different. It's different Korean or like I would just brought it into like Asian media violence is different from Western media violence, where it's like a little too sexual, a little too like focused on like them like The Anatomy, and this is something that's just like it's it's very cinematic.

There's a cinematic conventional way of portraying violence in Western film, and let's say, but with Korean dramas for this in particular, for Alison Borderland's I believe, like I haven't seen it yet, but like it's like, um, it's like it's just someone dying, like someone gets killed, and that's it. Like that's all you that's all you need. You as an audience, remember, need to know. I just think it's very cool and

refreshing and I just like forgot about that anyway. Yes, sorry, so we should say Matt and I are both stoned right now. Okay, so this is why I'm rambling. Maybe you're not even rambling, but but here's my point. You absolutely were able to say whatever it is you wanted to say about Square Game and going forward if you wanted to keep talking about it. You could say whatever you want about You can make the comparisons between American violence and Korea and the way that it's stune in

Korean drama. You can go on and do that. You didn't need me to put myself through something physically uncomfortable in order to expound on this topic. Fine, but I really I'm just saying what you really want it? No, no, no, no, I don't want you to watch it anymore because because I now I do know that it's not for you. I I truly thought like Matt's not gonna ma can handle this, And the fact that you're telling me that you can't, I say, do not watch it ever in

your life. I don't want you feeling this way. I love you too much. I'm just saying that I would have loved to talk to my very smart, funny, culturally intelligent friend, Matt Rodgers, well, what are you enjoying? Tell

me what you're enjoying. I'm just watching. Okay, so on this most and this is this is just the type of I guess person I am lately where it's just I just want more of the same, And maybe that is culturally like dumming me down, and I should just sign as a host of this podcast because I understand that it is boring that I don't I didn't watch Squid Game, but I promise it's for a good reason.

And I also understand that it's going to be insanely boring for some people that listen to this podcast to hear me say again that the Morning Show has re entered my life and that the other day I watched Reese brothers Win and Julianna Margalis make out out of Nowhere, and I was watching Jennifer Aniston chop wood in the forest because she's writing a book about her experience, and I'm like, this show is camp and drag, So I've gotten I've gotten back into that because I really enjoy

it and it doesn't like physically threaten me with violence to the way that the Squid literally does, and I know it's not going to send me into an absolute panic. So that's what I watched. And I will say I did gasp out loud and then get out, stand up and clap when Reese brother Spoon and Julianna Margalis had lesbian kiss in the back of a limousine um. But that was as much like, um, visceral, like physical response it got for me, whereas Squid Game had me like

squirming before the first hour was even up. And so that's why I just decided on one feeling over the other. Of course, that makes complete sense to me. And I just have to ask you many things about a couple of things about Morning Show, but one last thing about Squid Game, which is you did not even finish the first episode. No, I got till roughly the end. Yes, So you said that. The answer is you did not finish the first episode. No. I just thought I'm going

to do something else that hurts, that really hurts. No need for you to take it personally. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. UM. I just think I was talking to my new friend I R. L. Reread Cheney, one of the top one of the top friends, one of the top friends I saw on Friday, UM, and she said something really great. She said, one of the best up two's ever in any show, one of the most clever ways to do an episode two of a show. And I completely a great I was like, yes, and for

these specific reasons, because you know, here's the thing. No need, no, no need to even spoil it, because once I found out, I wasn't going to sit and watch it. I did sort of dig into what happens in the show and somatically and everything like that. I do understand let's happen, got it? They that that they this is a spoiler

to go home and they return. They're allowed to go home, and they go and they're they're allowed to go home, but for for a period of time, let's just say, And it's just a very great way to like not do flashbacks, but like get them into like you see, what's at stake for them anyway, Great, Um, Morning show. Why so Reese's character is a little bit she a little bit gay? I mean I suppose, I mean that's

that's Julian honest to um. They're sort of like having them look at each other in a way where it's like clearly if I mean, it's they're being directed to want to suck each other throughout and then they have a very intense sort of open mouth kiss in the back of a limo. And so that would sort of suggest to me that one are both characters are gay or questioning or queer questioning? Yes, interesting do you think? How do you think it's it's is it working, is

it being used to? Like I mean, I think what I like about the show is it's sort of reminded me of the way we were talking in the beginning of episode about asking the readers to send in what

kind of pictures they would like us to consider. It's sort of like every episode of every episode of The Morning Show is sort of like a third grade teacher comes in and says to a class of people, like, Okay, today, what we're gonna do is we're gonna write an episode of TV and anything can happen in it, and you know, it should feel like it's real, like it could really happen. But if you use your imagination, characters can say and

do things whatever you want. And it's like the class got the whole day to write an episode of television and then whatever is written at the end of the day is what they film and put on Apple TV Plus and it is The Morning Show. Like that's energy of this story priorates energy. It makes me smile. Yeah,

it sort of is. It's like it's like, you know, like like Reese whether Spoon and Julianna MARGARETI for having a conversation they kiss in the middle of a sentence, and then a huge asteroid is headed towards the Earth and they're like, we have to go and report on this, Like that kind of third grade manic energy is happening. Wait, that is incredible that a world, a potentially world yeah, world ending story is breaks while these two characters make out and they have to run and report on it.

That's that sounds like the camp, the level of camp that would be attributed to The Morning Show. I've only seen one episode of it, and it was the third episode and it was Jennifer and Hasten yelling to a boardroom of men. That was very mommy, dearist, and I loved it, and I thought, Okay, I get what the show is about. I understand why people like it. I have not. I'm sorry that I have not seen the show. Yeah,

and in that scene she does call everyone bozos. And that's like I mean when I say, like a third grader wrote it, Like, and I do think, like, let me just clarify, like I'm not insulting the writing staff. I think this is actually a genius way to put a show together. I think this is like I I you have me watching still like I am, I am still they're watching it, so no one should take any

offense or change a thing. Keep going like they are really going to do the coronavirus in the show they are yea so per bili that is the asteroid I'm talking about. Like there's literally scenes bowen where like there'll be two characters in the hallway to something like should we report on this coronavirus thing? Someone behind them will sneeze and then another person will just go it's probably

not a very big deal anyway, what else today? And they just go start of walking like start other dialogue, like they send a character on like is this going to be our first great piece of COVID media scripted content?

And like wow, I don't know if it will be the first great one, but I will say this, there was a shot in the first episode that's like makes it clear that they're going to be tackling what it happens when like New York emptys write the hell out and like COVID comes to play, so we will we will see. I just hope that they can still keep the bigness of how stupid it all is. Um. Yeah, Well, while in like a COVID world, you know what I mean, because we need the pulp. COVID is not very be

It's not it's very stagnant. Actually, COVID like famously everyone kind of just like stayed put. You just kind of you kind of sit around if COVID's in the world. Yeah, you don't really do You don't really do much. Nothing really motivates you to not to leave the house, you know. Anyway, Well, I'm so glad you're enjoyed. Is it Is it a comfort that you're watching? Because I literat squid Game as a comfort and I guess that's just that's just speaks

to two different personality types watching comfort. Is that is harrowing to me? And I will also say this this Friday, this is I'm not even I'm not even spooky. I'm not even like a spooky horror loving person. It was just comforting to watch. I'm sorry to keep going this Friday. You're going to horror, but to me, going to horror nights on Friday because I fucking love it. Like, So that's I guess like a little bit of a internal conflict. Yeah, it sounds like you need to resolve this. Well, can

I just physically explain. So when I am there, like a haunted house or like an immersive scary setting, I feel as if as though I can get away. Like I'm very spry, Like I'm a person with a lot of energy, and so I have to be able to if I'm in that I'm saying, we have to go. If you watch a movie, there's no escape. I have too much energy to sit here and just like feel

that anxious about something happening, trust me. Like, I don't know if I've talked to you about this, but like there was like a phase in my like early high school like era where like I was going to a horror movie every week and they were making they were driving me crazy because that or we've talked about this

where that era of horror was fucked up. Yeah, it was like it was like it was like a time when it felt like every week there was a new horror movie in cinemas, like and one woman was getting raped at least right like it was it was bad, very much so. But did you you watched like something like Malignant and you did like it. I have not seen Malignant, I think based on what I'm hearing, I

don't know that much about the turn. But based on what I'm hearing, it sounds like it's I've heard that it's quote the stupidest thing in the world in the best way that I must I will probably like it and love it. And I feel like I would see the thing is I would want I would want to see that with you. Is that because why? Why? Because?

Because I want to be there with you when the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a film happens and I see it for the first time, and I but I was with I was with Joe Kim Booster during Hereditary when the parton Hereditary happened and we were both like, I will never forget that moment for the rest of my life with one of my best friend's Joe Kim Booster. And so he I think is gonna it is gonna be like you're a horror movie friend. I know he yes, he is, but I would love for you to also

there's that's not just one person. They're so scary. They are so scary. And when someone dies on camera in front of you, I don't know what it is. I can't shake it. Like I get too emotionally involved sometimes in this ship, where like I just get fucking anxious, and I think it definitely pandemic. And I don't I don't want to make you feel better or explain it, but I don't want to put I am put in a position where I must. I am putting in a position where I must. Okay, Okay, I don't want you

to I don't want you this upset. I'm actually like fully over it because ultimately, no one can find me down, no one can pin me down and make me do a goddamnit thing, right, you know what, You're right? I like the spoky season um, and I'm actually like thrilled and very much organizing the hunted House experience. I'm doing funny, yeah, but I just with scary movies or with like intense thrillers, or with anything with like grounded you can't runway. It

just upsets me. I can't can't run away. Your only escape as that fucking menu button. Bitch, go back back back, take me back to the menu. I will not get get the Death off the TV. I'm not watching that Get the Scary Ship off the TV. I'm not watching that the Gore off the TV. I'm not watching that gore an issue, And then I go that title of app Get the Gore off the TV. I'm not watching that. Get the Gore off the TV. I'm not watching that. But then and can we do that? And all caps?

Thank you? How produce Rianna? She's gonna type all caps on the episode title? Well, we actually did enjoy though, was the Suicide Squad. We did love that. That had like comparable violence. But that but is that what you're talking about when you say American type movie violence? Oh, that's very specific. That's like that's like like magical realism and like like heightened like superhero violence, and that I

can do. That's why I love I love like True Blood up set you the first one especially like yes, I mean yes, Like that was like high stakes, like real violence, and I was just like I just don't love it. But then when something is goofy and dumb and it's like essentially minions getting killed, like I'm fine, okay,

so interesting killed. Volume one, I would say Volume one specifically, I would say has the most stylized violence where it's like she chops off five men's heads and it's like little cute little water fountains of pink blood, like fluorescent flood like it doesn't even it doesn't even look real, and so therefore it distarms the audience and you're like, Okay, that's like an art piece. It's like a sculpture. It's like a kinetic sculpture, and it's not like an actual

person being killed. So that you're okay with that, I'm fine with It's just like when it gets very like personal and intense, like I don't know then, I mean, this is not a spoiler alert Squid Game. It ends like one of the most graphic fight scenes I've ever seen in my life, and you would you would hate it and you would never make it to that and that and that's okay, No, I know, And that's why I'm like, but it iss back. I'm not pushing back on you. That's not what I'm doing. I know. I

know You're not pushing back on me. You are only encouraging me to become a more realized version of myself. Always. What is Kucku Bananas is hearing things like most watched show ever of all time. More people have watched Squid Game than like, you know, like family Matters, read the Bible, darling, Like it's out there and everyone is seeing it and I'm just like, I can't. You're talking about the world, honey, Korea's loving yet I bet Japan's loving yet. Um, the

whole world, the whole world. Every country in South America is watching squid Game. Yeah, and that's okay. That and it's up to every single citizen of those countries, including the United States of America, to decide whether or not they can stomach the violence. Yeah, it's a lot. How does it feel to be an inspiration? Now? You've inspired me to to a rousing call to action for the world. Don't watch squid Game if you don't want to. That's

what you've inspired me to tell people. But but the thing is people should definitely go for it if they if they feel so inclined, because a lot of people only if and only if they feel so inclined. I'm sorry, I'm really cutting you off a lot today. I'm chatty. I'm chatty on this weed well because you have Yeah, what are you smoking? I'm smoking? Okay at this point, I am just like the brand ambassador, even though I didn't I never meant to be. I just love their stuff.

Sunday School so amazing pre roles um and I picked these up at men Men as soon as they landed in l A two weeks ago. First place I went to after a charted to my hotel was med Men and Beverly Grove, and I was I was like, this is wonderful. And it was the first time I had actually been to men Men and knew what I wanted. Besides, like those like bad pens from like three years ago, don't remember there's pens, the dosis pens. They were bad. I actually don't think that they even had any weed

in them. They did it, and I think they're I think they went under. I'm not seeing them around anymore, and it's because they didn't work. There was no weed in them. Yeah, that very weird. I have these Pacific stones. Have you seen this brand? Now? Is it fun? It looks fun. I very much enjoyed them and they are a hybrid and um, you know, especially like um. While I had food poisoning, it was just like I was really sitting here and just smoking weed all the time.

That's lovely. And honestly, maybe that put me in a state of anxiety where I was like, squid game is not gonna happen for me. That's okay. You don't if you rationalize squid game fear one more time. No, it's not I'm not even interested. I'm just thinking I'm assessing my own you know what, like and that this is this, this actually is interesting. I am entertain, meaning watching the Halloween movie, I'm entertaining it the first one or the new one. That's the new one starring Kyle Richards. You

you're gonna go for Kyle alone. I know. I think I might be in that demographic. That's like if they were holding a clipboard at the end of the movie. So why did you come see Halloween Kills? Like, and people are like Jamie Lee Curtis Man, we love her, we always want to see her. Her kick is some mess. Michael Myers is so scary, And then I would be the one fact that's like, um, I really was into seeing that Kyle Richards was going to give Oh my god,

that's so that's like, that's a sketch. That's a really funny sketch. I wanted to see what Kyle Richards was, like, could she act? I don't know, Like I wanted to see what she was carrying talent? Oh my god, I wanted to see she tour and she did. She did botox for six months beforehand because she said, quote an actress should be able to move her face end quote. But yeah, like, I hope we see Michael Myers's face this.

I'm really interested to see if we see his face because actually, in no movie ever have you seen his face so like, and we're getting towards the end there, so you know, um, definitely want to see Jamie Lee. Hey, guess man, so fucking hot? Still, do you think? I just think Kyle Richards, like, well, I know she was really unhappy with her bangs, you know, like they made her get those banks, So I really want to see how the banks look on camera. And oh my god,

it's so funny. But the one trailer where they had like she does like the whole screams. She was good west alive about it. Immediately after we were like, could you believe? I couldn't believe. I will say bone And his favorite bit is to pretend that one of the housewives is going to host us, and now like, well Suton Sutton's coming to host from October show we got sun struck everybody, all right, Well, Eric has spent through a lot. Eric has been a lot does sir, you know,

does how do you have a sudden? It could be interesting, be interesting. Bowen could do Crystal and you would slay as Crystal. You'd be so you're an awkward, uncomfortable person. Oh my god, you're killing Crystal. You should play Crystal Kung Minkoff on the show and then submit that to the Emmy's Boone showed off as Crystal Kung Minkoff on this episode, so that's going to be competitive for the whim.

Like Bowen had such a moment with Crystal Minkoff, Like it's like you know, like I mean, it was just that thing when pop culture like met SNL. It was like that Tina, that Tina Sarah Palin moment, Like when Bowen did his Crystal Kung Minkoff. You know, you would wake up on Sunday and like all anybody it would talk about was doing and she benefited from it too, like and she loved it too, And that's why it

could be interesting. You know coming through actually I know Rob and she's coming through and Bowen, you know, a scholar is gonna na it. Scholar is just gonna be By the way, did you watch this week's episode? I did watch this week's episode. She was wearing a top at at Wendy's like a Chesapeake house, which I was like, is that as she was wearing like a Versaci top? Yeah, yeah,

it was a it was a Versaci top. Her husband they did not let's speak at all, or he was maybe too uncomfortable and didn't say anything because he was like, there are literally cameras flying around me. Um, but I was there. There was not enough scalat this episode. That's my only No, it was a great episode otherwise, I mean, Escol is definitely getting comfortable, um, sort of being very like canvases, like a little um lackey as it were. Um, but she I think maybe didn't pick the right week

for that, because Candice is absolutely out of control. She's completely out of control. Literally, just when I was starting to tell people I actually love Candice now I said she was my favorite housewife. So that's what i'n't doing anymore. No have we have we given deep space to spin yet on our own time? Lily did, And I think I have a definitive sort of feeling about why it's not what it could be because she actually doesn't know when to stop, like in the very first song, which

is like an intro track. Um, she says, right before the rest of the album starts. She goes, it's official, I hated here, And I'm like, we did not need this line, like if you were going to do like a she doesn't have intro, like just let it be what it is and we move forward. But she does not. She's not a good editor. She's not a good editor. She really needs to like just know how to take it. No, yeah, no,

you're right, that's that is the first and foremost problem. Um, but just the whole Like, I mean, she it's sad that she can't realize that her like making fun, making fun quote unquote of Mia for being a stripper, like is not great. Like it is not a good look. It's not that's not a good look. Making fun of everything about her body is not a good look. Called the defeat thing is funny, but like, man, it's just

like it's so relentless and soft. Fourth time, Yeah, you're like, all right, lay off the feet, right, weirdo you're doing And it's almost just hearing her be like you were found on the corner, Like you're a hooe, you're a horror, Like It's just it's like it's crosses over from insulting to becoming like very sex negative and like shame towards sex work, um in a pretty real way, and like I never want to be the one to be like, you know, can'da stopped talking because she says so much

good ship when you just let her go. But at a certain point, it's like her hit rate is not happening on this trip and she needs to cool it, cool it, cool it um. You know, Wendy, Wendy. I love Wendy so much, like you can tell, like because she and me had had their differences, but she really took on when me was telling was sharing with Wendy, like her story about her mother. Like I looked at Wendy, they cut to Wendy, and I was like, wow, she's being very empathetic, like in a way that makes me

like her a lot. Is this even worth mentioning? I just like I know when Wendy's booked for the show season seven, eight and nine, like Wendy's here to stay of course. I just think she she might be my favorite of all housewives at the moment, truly. Yeah, just like in terms of like she she knows that when to get messy, and then she also doesn't know when to stop. Like she's got like seven canned catchphrases waiting

to go um. But she's also like she has like the good really outweighs like the fun and the the bad. I was gonna say bad, but it's like she like, I don't know, she's she's waiting this season flat out,

Like she's flat at this season. And I feel like she was really really winning the season when she said when Giselle was like accused her of being jealous or a hater, and she goes hating on this and like pointed around to like the fact that they were in like a shitty tent in Giselle's drive away while construction was happening, and I was just like, yeah, there's really nothing that Gissell can say. And also Robin gets so bothered,

and yeah, she really cares. She gets upset upset. Yeah, I wonder if you're an asshole, Wendy, you're an asshole. That's like a Robin impression. Yeah, And I'm coming boring on Matt Bone is very good friends with someone who has a Robert Dixon. Robin could be big, could get one, you know, a greade line. I am so glad is not here right now here. It could be fun to you know, Whitney. I'm not putting Whitney out there alone.

She needs Heather, someone when someone more seasoned Whitney. He is not going to stay a live from She's she can't, she can't do it well, she hasn't arnder, she hasn't heard of it. You know, back in the seventies it was only three networks. And can we actually for real say though that this podcast does have powers because the way we Sarah Sherman on like three weeks before the gag, Oh my god, Sarah's Sarah had a great first show. We love Sarah so much, the house down. And also

we have to shout out Billy Domino. Billy Domino got hired at ESAL to ride one of our first and only straight white siss mail guy. I think he might have been the first. And so that is the full circle moment of all full circle moments? Did you get to work on them at all? Um? Yes? He um. He sent in a sketch last week that he wrote in his pocket that included me, and so we like, we like worked on that together. Um didn't get picked, but it was very funny. Um and I have some things,

some collaborations and could be coming around the corner of Yes. Absolutely, Um. Now all the new hires are fantastic. M I can't wait for everyone to see more. Do you think that? Um? Well, you know there's a big musical event happening this fall that's sort of everyone's talking about. And I'm not talking about the rerelease of Red, I'm talking about Adele returning. Do you think we may see her sweep through the halls? Yeah,

I think we may. I think we may. Can we talk about well, no, this might be my own thinks, so honey for later. It's a Dell related potentially. Oh my goodness, are feeling watch this space. I'm so excited. I'm I'm so excited, so thrilled. I mean, she understands

what is about to happen. She before she recorded this album, she must have understood that this will be the divorce album, no matter what, and that like there are emotions two bear and that she understands the gravity and I would I would want to say pressure, but like the stakes that people are putting on this. Oh, I mean she's gone through um and upheaval emotionally, and so we are only trained to expect an avalanche of grief expression in general. Um, maybe we even may get like a third of the

someone Like You Hello Um trilogy. Do you think that the album will be called what thirty? Or will we get an album title? Watch this space because I do want to remark on this at the end of this show. Program. Oh so I I understand, I understand like this, I give it away. No, no, you didn't give it away. Yet you didn't give it away. Well, I'm really interested. Also,

she's really the queen of the fall. She remembers that we remember those iconic leaves blowing in the wind and they head in the Hello video and she says, they want fall from me, they want fall, and like she even she scared the other who we thought was the queen of Fall, Taylor, into moving her her read rerelease

back back a week. I love it like you know, Taylor, and that the sign of Taylor respecting Adele to me and tell herself had no choice but to move it because she said, Adele's coming in and she wants this day and then tell her said, and Taylor Swift said, Okay, I'll move. That's power. That's power. Congratulations Queendom Queen. Should we bestow the award on Adele? The Queendom Award. This is the first ever, the first, well, the first lost

Culture resturs award we've officially given out. Is not one we've announced, It's not a category we announced. This is this is one of those honorary awards, but we're gonna scar this is the Yes, this is the last Cultures This Culture Award, Queendom Queendom Award. It goes to a singer that has transfixed audiences all over the world, old with her candor, with her sheer vocal ability, and the effect that she has had on millions across the globe who cry with her, grieve with her, and who learn

alongside her. This is so the Lost Cultures Award. Queendom Award goes to Adele Roup. Oh why why am I crying you? That was the funniest I think anyone's ever done. I was touched Adele. This is a first last culture Culture Award. I don't even think she's got many of the nominations. Does she even nominated? I don't think she's nominated in other categories because we knew the whole time.

We were going to award her the Lost Culturista's Culture Award, and you publicist her right now, you're taking your damn head being like, Wow, they really knew all along. They had a plan for us, They had a plan for us, and who better for it to go to than Adele Adele Atkins, who from the ripe age of nineteen has been touching audiences with really her ingenuity, um, the transparency she brings in her music, a local tone that is unmistakable.

It is clear to us that Ada would be the only singular musical icon Adele in any generation, in any era. Adele would be the greatest, simply, the best of all time. She is the queendom, the queendom of Warrant tonight. Oh my god, You've never been so proud to be This is so stupid. I can't believe how stoned I am. Oh my god, you need to of that release I do. It wasn't even a big cleaning. I'm not talking about last week. Okay. I'm just gonna be very transparent right now.

I don't care about the last week Kay. I care about Kim Kay coming to the gig. I can't wait, are the vibes good? So far? So far, so far, the vibes are great and and all I all I've heard about any personal sort of interactions with kim Kay from people is that she's just cool and great and like it is nice to people. I'm like because I'm thinking, what if you had said? And all I've heard is that she's incredible at sketch. Like all I've heard of people that I like know her is that she is

psychotically talented at sketch. My god, No, kim Kay wrote she like helped write like Brightanic Ship. Yes. I was like, yeah, kim Kay like does amazing character work. Kim Kay will like teaches character. I I bet she would teach character. Yeah. Like this is the thing, Like she's going like fully in with like the lawyers stuff, Like she is going to be like one of the most, like the most iconic lawyers of all time. She will be one of the most It'll be she'll be up there with like

el Woods. Absolutely. In fact, she's in many ways like an actual elf in many ways, like while you can't say legally blond at all, like kim Kay is living out and I kind of iconic Elwood's narrative, you can never forget that song at the end of the movie. In the beginning, yes, it book ends. That's what I didn't realize until I just put it on the other day. Because suits, well, can we do a little deep dive on what Hoku is doing right now? Because I really

want to know. I really need to know how what is Can we let's just I'm just gonna pull up. Wow, this is insane that you would why the name of Hoku out there, but like it is true, like you do want to know what she's up to, Like she was a big part of my life. She's a huge part of my life. She's forty years old. Well, she was born Hoku Christian Hoe. Her name is Hoku Christian Ho. She was born in Oahu. Are you laughing? Christian is funny? Like, I'm sorry, but for for the for the last two

works Christian Christian, I'm sorry, I'm laughing. Cancel me whatever, No, no, no, Christian. We know we can't, but we can't find out anything else about her because Christian Home. We're just gonna be thinking of Christian Home the whole time. Okay, So she and her husband Jeremy have three children, and they serve as arts and worship architects at Branches Church in Dana Point, California. So that's just to cut to the chase. She's an arts and worship architect at a church in California. There

you go. I don't know what that means me neither at all. Arts and worship are I'm looking at the words and I go, what what is that? And arts and worship architects architects like that? Like is that like an imagine director? I can imagineer of church. I don't know. Wait a minute, this is okay. I'm sorry. I'm just gonna read. I don't care about the career stuff. I'm sorry. We just gipped right to personal life. I'm on her Wikipedia, okay.

Hoku became a Christian after first attending church in nine. She has said that nothing means more to her than music. Outside of her family and faith, you'd be the new The next time, she married her high school sweetheart, Jeremy Clements. The couple eloped for quote personal reasons. According to Hoku, that's scary to me, later saying that she was scared to tell her father because of his harsh attitude towards boys she previously dated, and how young she was at

the time. This is all very red flag to me. I think she's hiding something. I think that there's a lot going on here. I mean musical style and artistry. So let's let's let's read here. She's been frequently compared to fellow pop singers Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears. However, I don't know how frequently, but they noted Hoku's distinct style, attributing any to the singer's Christian faith. It's not very comfortable for me to be a sex symbol, Hoku says,

especially because of my faith. That's why I enjoy being involved with the younger kids, because they relate to me being the girl next door. So she was virginal, actually walking the walk of virginal Christian pop star, not like these other girls who Christian home. More like, well, this is this not a red flag to you? I enjoy being involved with the younger kids. I don't know. There's a lot of time flags with with with Hoku. Is she talking about being like an arts and worship architects.

I think that she was talking about when she performs her concerts, she likes to look out on the crowd and see a lot of younger kids involved with the younger kids. Is what's throwing me, Like, I think a lot, a lot is throwing me. It's turning out about Hoku's story like a lot of I'm legitimately freaked out. It's like Whitney on, Like I have the fucking chills. Oh did you watch Salt Lake Lisa? I loved it. I loved Casino and I I love Lisa's meltdown. I love

Angie that right now. I'm heartbroken right now, Angie out Jenny, I'm sorry, Jenny's Jenny's Jenny has a flop. I was like this one, there's actually something going on. The lights are on upstairs with Angie Jenny. I'm like what. I just think it's It's truly a difference between Jenny not knowing what like the job, what the assignment is, and Andree out the gate is like, Okay, I'm gonna throw

a party. I'm gonna get into a fight about it with one of the housewives about my party and then all this other ship and here's my deal, Like I have a trans kid, Like this is what the audience needs to know. I'm about being right off the top. Boom, let me, let's just go down the list. She got to throw an event, she got a BackStar where she has a trans child. She's way hotter than her husband. She turns looks. She did a costume change on her

own party. She had a fight with and told that she was best friends with the same housewife in one episode. She's related to one of them. She fucking, oh my god, you're The list goes on, the list goes on, and she had more than one confessional, and she got to say these words. I do think is capable of meddling in my event. I said, welcome. That's that she she just distilled the quintessential thing about housewives. I do think

that what what what what would she say? I do think the Lisa is capable of meddling in my event. That's so rich. What a rich sentence. I mean, it's you can only say it in a confessional on housewives, like it's a sentence that doesn't belong anywhere else. I do think Lisa is capable of meddling with my events. I mean, I think we have our first housewife who is coming in and knowing the men. I think she's I think she's doing this is a bit because she

knows what she knows. She's too smart, do you know what I mean? It feels like she's operating at a level maybe the rest of them aren't, which I think this show needs because I think Salt Lake City is lacking a grounded presence. I think that probably the most grounding presence is Meredith, but even but Heather is a very grounding presence as well. Okay, so Heather, and I think like Meredith because she keeps being like, no, what's

happening with my son Brooks? And Gen is crazy? And I won't talk to her if she's going to act like this, Like that's a very grounded place to come from, whereas everyone else is like entertaining Gen in a way where I'm like, what why, She's insane? But I still think the show could use someone like Angie, because we get a lot of Mary who just isn't speaking English

a lot of the times, and it is iconic. It's iconic, but I mean talk about something that's like scary and gives me anxiety, and I do want to turn off, get the Mary off the TV. I'm not watching that, Like I feel probably how you felt watching Squid Game. When I watched Mary speak, I think, oh my god, what this is too stressful to think to hie it back to the beginning of the episode, to think that

she actually is a day of Culture. I mean, McDonald is a day of Culture number one, and then number the day of Culture was when Mary was the world change. I mean, are you excited to come to Ohio so we can sort of meet you and Sue have like uh wine filled um sort of week, vacation week. I can't wait. I'm sure it will be just what I need and we will be smoking a lot of marijuana. Well,

I think so. But the thing is like the I would love to go on like a wine excursion literally like they did last week on Beverly Hills, like when they sort of went out and like drank wine professionally for hours, Like I want to do that. I want that. I'll book it. I'll book it. I booked us a nice restaurant with the first night, and I'll do another few bookings that I'm really taking point on this trip. But the way I don't with any other vacation, well,

I truly appreciate that. I kind of just felt like you seemed like you know what you wanted and you felt good about it. Oh yeah, and and look, well we'll figure it out together. It'll be a collaboration. Um. I just went ahead and made some decisions that are malleable and I'm open to change. I love that. That's

how the best, the best thing should always be. But you know what's actually interesting is this sort of like this autumnal vibe we're starting to go into, which is like drinking wine in Ohio of it all, it actually does relate to my I don't think so, honey. So I think we could move into that area. Yes, if if you are inclined to do so as well. I am very inclined to do so. Okay, So I don't

think so, honey. Is a one minute segment where we sort of rail against something in culture that you know needs a railing um and everything that's my sister and I are making um conversation about currently is sort of making me unable to hold mine in any longer. So I would love to do it. Okay, I'm okay, I'll be okay, Okay, is it something that I'm doing? Okay, Wow, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so when the time starts now, I don't think so, honey. The lack

of autumnal energy in Los Angeles less California. I have very simple pleasures. I wanted to go to the Girl since today and buy some pumpkin beer so I could drink pumpkin beer with a cinnamon sugar rim. You cannot find pumpkin beer, and I think the city of Los Angeles it's extremely difficult. I feel like the climate of

l a year round. I don't think so, honey. The fact that you are forcing um autumnal pleasures that are simply um for taste, um away from the city sense of this part of the country, simply because you feel weather wise it's not appropriate to I don't know, carbon down pumpkin too. I don't know, like have apple pie too, I don't know, just relentlessly do the pumpkin spice thing. And I I understand it's basically that's not really what

I'm trying to cover here. What I'm trying to cover is it's not autumn here and it needs to be. And that's one minute. You know what I hear. I hear that you miss the crisp sensation of wind hitting you blasting your body. Yes, you need to put on Red by Taylor Swift. Not Taylor's version yet. No, not Taylor's version yet. But I am excited to sort of

have that when when, when the time is right. Um. But the thing is, I also wish I could open my doors and windows and feel that crisp autumn air as I listened to said album, But it just doesn't

exist here. And I'm realizing what bums me out is I spend like the asshole of the year in New York City during like August and September, when it's still sweaty as absolute heck and saggy bottom, and then I come here where it's warm and hot, just as New York gets to be at its absolute apex, which is October, November and even into December. In New York, there's nothing

like it. There's nothing like our that city during that time, and I'm missing out on it, and I just wish I could get a goddamn lick of it out here, and you can't. I hear the pain in your voice. I just wanted that pumpkin beer. I just wanted that

so bad. I don't know if there just no you love pumpkin beers so much it's insane, and I and I celebrate that, but you but this, if you spine this bitch at some bar and in the month of October November, and yes, even them, he'd be asking do you have pumpkin beer here when the menu says they don't, And sometimes they do, they often do. And that's the thing about New York because you can always sort of

like count on them to come through with that. So if anyone in Los Angeles can point me to institutions or establishments that sell maybe even you know, have good varieties of pumpkin beer, that would be wonderful. If you can't, we gotta leave the Gellson's. It's not you. You can't have the only place to go be Gellston's. You gotta expand your search, like I'm not. I'm sorry, but I've seen some of the clientele that goes to the Skelson's. Let's just say, um, it's it's right off the damn

Hollywood Hills. So I've seen some celeb sidings in this Skelson's and this Gelson's is not up to snuff. Okay, let's just say there's a certain absolute film star. You can't get bigger. And I saw her with her kids. That's all I'm gonna say about it. Down the all on Thisskelson's and I said, I can't believe that establishment like this does not provide them with pumpkin beer. That's a star, that's star. It is time for bone Yanks. I don't think so, honey. Are you ready to do yours?

I think so okay, And you sort of hinted at it earlier. Yeah, well not people know, but yeah, here we go. This is bon yangs. I don't think so many times stars now, I don't think so, honey. And del naming your album thirty probably like you said in Pressed, that you were done with the numbers, the numerology, the numbering system of the albums after and I think you should go back to that artist at that age. Keep

your promise to her. Don't name it thirty. Give us something, give us something, give us some some texture beyond, because there's if you think about them, there isn't much discernment except for maybe she worked with Max Martin on one and not the other, and oh that one's five more numbers or four more numbers or three more number two whatever,

than the other one. I think she needs to start crystallizing her point of view a little bit more, which we all know what it is, and so just like seal it in with an actual word, Adele, I love you so much. I I can't wait to see you at the show, if you, if you come through. I love working with you last year. I just I hope that that you end this as a quadrilogy and don't do it for the fifth album. So that's one minute. Now I have to ask why you seem so sure

that it's going to be called dirty? What makes you think that? On the billboards that she's been promoting it with, say thirty. Wait, seriously, there's there's been billboards I think in l A and New York, just like in like big I don't know cities, big markets whatever, like she like. The billboards are just mysteriously they say thirty. They don't like say adell. They don't confirm the title. I guess technically, but it seems to be going in that direction. Oh wow,

I hadn't seen this Adele new album thirty speculation. After several thirty billboards pop up, Oh my gosh, I didn't

know this was a thing. So I think this confirms it, and it kind of disappoints me, not in a real way, like I will, like I'll fucking love this album, I'm sure, but I'm like I do think when I between twenty one five, I'm like, see, like CPA tone can't be like the only like big difference in this, like you know, like I need not that any singer needs to have eras, but I think like Adele like could absolutely like it would work if she just like applied some sort of

like point of like intrigue or something interrupt like give it like give it some wording. I don't know, Like that's this is such an arbitrary, stupid thing for me to argue, which is that like word albums are better than number albums. I feel this way about I feel this way about four. It's just like to me, it feels almost I love numbers. I'm a numbers guys analytical

brain bitch, but numbers numbers as albums boring. Give us a word us the word actually have the potential to be so beautiful, which is why I think I prefer that number are always never going to be so beautiful, you know what I mean, Like even even the numbers a beautiful numbers, pretty numbers, Like seven is like pretty, it's like pretty. That's why she's so popular. It's because she is pretty. She's pretty. Yeah. I feel like four

is another beautiful number. Four is a beautiful number. You know. Four gets to like guess what four gets to do? She gets to like unbutton her collar sometimes, like the four? Can I e to be closed? A triangle or it's an open you know, a little little pill. Four is growing up? And can I tell you what other number? Is absolutely gorgeous and there's just something about oh yeah, like eleven. I wouldn't name that like this famously an eleven from Stranger Things, And I feel like Bobby and

I'm taking her completely out of this. I don't want her involved in this, but I would name my daughter eleven eleven Rogers bitch, Oh that's Gord Supers. It's a very famous British actress. Rogers is such a famous British actress. She's like like Daisy Edgar Jones like, and she's like so tender on she's so oh my god, are you kidding me? I just saw a musical yesterday called six. Wait can you what you felt about six? I was so um jealous of you. I really loved it. I

enjoyed it so much. It was really cool to be there with like I think, like UM, a couple of the articles have remarked on this, it's like a very young it's a very young Broadway audience in a different way than like, you know, a young like a Deer of Enhanson. It's like a young Broadway audience that is there for a specific thing, UM, which is like that show, and like, uh, it's just great, great performances. UM. Toby

and Lucy, the people who wrote it are fantastic. UM. I did work with them recently and they were so lovely to work with UM on a on a project and how they nailed it. They did a great job, and I was so happy for them because they were supposed to open right before COVID and then you know, this is just a long delayed, long deferred thing and it's so great and it was just I think people really enjoyed it. Yeah I did, and I say I

would say I enjoyed it as well. That's I just meant like overall, like the feeling is like, oh, that's that's gonna be great. Like everyone's gonna love that. Yeah, people that have seen it really really seem to enjoy it. I'm going to see Wicked on Saturday, December eight, Oh my god, and I'm gonna go sit in the second row. Who are you going with? Well, you know that I think that's the night of your guys is like Christmas show. Yeah, and so I'm going with U Sudi. With Sudi, no,

I don't think she'll be I'm going with Gretit. But and Emily, I was like that, you're coming, You're coming to New York. Oh, you're seeing I think there for a seasons. I have not yet announced, but I'm doing I'm going to be there for like a little bit over a week. That's right, That's right, That's right. And I'm gonna see Wicked in the second row when I'm

gonna watch. So this is what I here. Basically, the rumor is about Wicked is that at one point Alphabet actually flies, like they pull off a trick where she actually it looks like while she's singing a number, she she actually ascends and it's like, for the first time Alphabet is flying in the show. So that's why I wanted to get such a close seat to the front because to experience what I hear is a very cool

special effect. So watch the space, as you were saying before, what an iconic story like in a way to like freshen it up? If that, I mean, no one's ever no one can confirm or deny whether or not alphabet actually flies in Wicked. But if they are able to pull that off, I think that that is very cool and like a big emotional height probably very emotional moment, of course, a very emotional song. Just kidding bone, and I know exactly what happens in Wicked. Of course, alphaba

flies were still the culture raised does after all. Um, I was gonna say, wait, I'm not done talking about numbers. Go back, here's a number. Here's excited. I just it's enough said. It has so much symmetry to it, right you go, oh, twelve, I'm seeing, you know, twelve twelve pieces in u a pie. I can either cut it. I can either you know, take it out in thirds and fourths and have so many beautiful radial paths, extremely

um malleable number. And that's what makes it a part of so many people's lives is it can fit in. It literally can fit in so many ways. You also have to respect thirteen. You have to respect has been through a lot, been through a lot, seen it to Helen back, Okay, thirteen actually is such an imposing number that it's sometimes it's beauty gets lost, but there is a dark beauty to thirteen. And I think that it carries gravitas in that way. Do you think thirteen is

carrying gravitas? That's what I said. Why would I say anything different. That's what I did say that that's what she said. Um, I think here's this is the last number. I'll say, and then I'll say and then we'll end the episode of last will to raise this? Okay, okay, power that has not to rhyme, but carries weight, not to rhyme. But you did, you did, sister, and help myself, and that rhyme describes it perfectly carries the weight forty eight. It might sound a little Wayne Brady, but it's true.

You know how Wayne Brady always rhyming, always rhyming. Forty eight so great, carry's weight, carries weight. Don't be, don't be. And now I would say that my most beautiful number before we do a song to finish the episode. If I had to say the most beautiful number it would be. It would be seventy seventy four. See what you did there? Is you named two other beautiful number? No, you know what, I'm taking it all back. Seventy seven. I don't need

the for seventy seventy is beautiful. It is legendary. Seventy seventy is I see her walking out on an award show, not unlike the Lost cultures, this culture awards, accepting an award, not unlike the Queendom Award. Just out there. Everyone shoots out of their seats. Clap clap, clap, clap clap for this legend seventy I literally think an incredible drag name would be seventy millions. That's my drag name, seventy million. That is seventy million or seventy millions, seventy millions. I

kind of think that's funny. So um. We always end every episode of Last risas a searing pop culture podcast that really takes its time to look into all the elements of culture that you're thinking about, that you're consuming and give our take on you know, are very smart, incisive take. Would you say this is one of the most smartest I think This is one of the smartest episodes we've ever done. I think that's why the Vulture said we were the top podcast of the year. You

know what I mean. That's why Time Esquire, Time Out New York. That's why everyone is raving about Lost colt risas the podcast has received critical acclaim I don't understand why why people why people think this podcast is like good or like eyebrow, but sometimes is the dumbest podcast it exists. This is this bar bar one of the stupidest podcasts you could listen to. Um, we never episode with the song because when it's so body for more

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