"Funky!" (w/ Nikki Glaser)

go on the internet. Don't go on the internet because it will be ruined for the girl. And what happens in the last ten minutes is as they say, peak TV. Okay, you know how much I love a twist because I have I have said on record that Wrecket Ralph is one of the best movies in film history because of the twist in that movie. And you never see it coming. No wait, you might have to educate a girl. What's

the twist? And wreck itt Ralph? So okay, and spoiler alert for let's just say spoil because you know the readers, they come for us. If the readers have not seen Record Ralph, you owe it to yourself to see it. Run done for the whole fun, for the whole family. Don't walk. This is basically the gist of it. So it takes place at this arcade, right, and all the world's are different arcade, you know, uh, screens, monitors, whatever. Absolutely so, then the entire sort of world building and

the world building in the movie. Everyone keeps referencing this. Um, oh gosh, let me look this up. Hold on, hold on, hold on, We're not no no no, no, no no, the movie that he's so proud of. No, no, no. I think there's a twist and record Ralf. I think there is a situation that is creative. I think the twist is maybe all the video game characters. No no, no, no, that's not the twist. Okay, here we're back. Okay, we're back.

But there's no gonna be no and the whole and the whole Like first two acts, I would say they reference Going Turbo, which means, um, going rogue in your own video game and then demanding to be in another video game so that you you sort of like hack the video So Turbo was the most popular racing game in the eighties, and then another racing game came in the nineties and Turbo got jealous, and so then Turbo invades the nineties video game and breaks it and then

Has and then Has is never seen again, and you're like, you can't go. You can't go Turbo, you can't hop video games. So then you find out in Sarah Silverman's world, Sugar Rush, it's a it's a candy based video game, and the ruler of that world is King Candy, and King Candy hates Vanellope, calls her a glitch, says, you know you can't race, you can't race, you can't race.

Turns out, Venelope, Sarah Silverman's character was the queen of Sugar rush Land, and King Candy is actually Turbo, and Turbo invaded the game long ago, and it's the way that the twist is revealed. The execution of it. I mean, it's Alan too giving you an amazing Disney it's Alan Tude, It's first Disney villain perform voice acting king, voice actin King and true true dime. I must say good ten out of yes. And he's not one that gets talked about often as we don't. We don't talk about Alan Tuteck.

You know, they talk about Chris Evans, they talk about Chris Pine. They talk about all the chris Is, and they don't talk about Alan Tutic And it's actually it's rule culture number fifty six. They don't. They talk about Alan and smashing Alan tut they don't. And look at if you know, if you're unclear on what he looks like. Everyone go look at a picture and then try not to touch your cock or whatever you got going on

down there. Okay, but I just want to say so for everyone at home that sort of was following that long twist of record, Ralph, you know that it's a lot simpler and marabast town. Um, I gotta tell you, you know how you are like sort of famously always at odds with neighbors and people that live around here. So I can now join the fray. I have a

real situation on my hands. You've been in this building, you've been in this department for a while now, it's it's it's been in this building for a while now. I haven't had any problems. Now I have the person who's moved above me, blessting at I'm not even kidding. To thirty in the morning, Only one song, Only one song, Ariana Grande p O V. I love to see me from your point of that. And we love that song. We love Ari and we congratulate her on her wedding.

But I don't want to hear this song one more time. I'm going up there, I swear to christ It's it's at that point. I'm okay, I'll do it ready, Hi, it's what do you It's three in the moning I live downstairs. I love this song too. I can't hear it again. And it's really literally almost three in the morning. And I'm so sorry that this is gonna have to be my energy. But like it's you, it's so loud, you're so right. I'm so sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it down. What's your name? What's your name? I

love your Wait, No, you're Matt Rogers. I love your podcast. Uh no, um no, that's not me. You're you're thinking of Bowen Yang. He's a bit. No. I'm going on Jim wat right now, and I'm d m M that you were a fucking bitch to me, not doom. We have to announce something. Matt Rodgers is Jim Wafing who cares No, No, he has been sighted everybody. I was spotted walking with a nice coffee. There's no better way to be spotted. We spotted Matt Rodgers walking with an

nice coffee across honey. Guess who's praying to accurately be spotted on Jim Ont said if someone saying, oh, I saw an Asian guy with glasses walking around Madison Square Park, I've I have not set foot in that park in two years. How many times have they been wrong about it being you? Um, I would say, oh, let's say it's been five times. Four out of the five times they've been wrong. Oh that doesn't feel good. It's not good. And then I and then I even like I didn't

even tag them. There are there are some Caroline cow all the Ways ship and they're looking through their indirects and being like, oh, this person just talked about Jim Wat did not tag them. And then they reached out to me and said, oh my god, it's not you, and I go, no, usually isn't. And I was like, it's not your fault. It's just none of these things are verifiable. And then it's just so funny that Jim's fucking bio. They say none of what we post is

ever based in fact. I'm not even that's not I'm not even just pair, I'm not even Yeah, it's that that is exactly what they say. And yet it's like they kind of fancy themselves a news outlet. Well it's a new kind of tabloid essentially, That's what it is is. It's a tabloid because any old person can say, hey, I heard this, saw this, did this? Was this? I mean, and they're like, you said, so you gotta take it with a grain of s grain of as like everything.

I God bless them through kind of breaking the Army hammer thing, but I don't know, well, you know that's a that's a tragic one. And you know I met Army Hammer. Didn't seem I and I this is what this is what I always say now about army didn't seem like accountable, didn't seem like what does that mean some people? And you're like, I don't know about them. They might be accountable, couldn't have smelled less like accountable to me. But you know who you know who is

eating right now? You know who's eating this week in terms of like fucking getting getting everything that she fucking deserves and needs. The host of the MTV movie and TV Awards Unscripted. Thank you very fucking much that happened this week. Doom is never gonna funk this up. They're going to know exactly who this is when they see her. You're not going to mistake her for someone else. She's been fucking killing it in the zoom so far. Fucking

like you should see what's going on. We had a discussion beforehand of the sort of applying makeup without even really thinking about it. Thing. She can she can she can apply in her waterline without a mirror. Oh my god, Oh my god. Stunning. The host of the daily podcast, the nick Glazer Podcast, name of the Year. You know exactly who hosts this fucking show. You know exactly, Only

the chumps don't know. And you gotta buy a techt to see her alive and her fucking nationwide tour one night with Nicky Glazer starting July, going all the way through January. Baby, that's about a half a year for all about a half freaks out there. Look we we we can say one of my favorites stand ups, Oh, one of my favorites. Also, did you know this? Do you remember when we went to Nicki and Sarah when we went to Nicki and Sarah Alive and went to a taping of Nicki and Sarah Alive. Get this. I

think it was a decade ago. Wow, it was so we're nearing the tenure, but that was like, that was like a cool moment. I was like, oh my god, we're at this like dually co hosted women's like like a female old City of t RL. You couldn't have told this it was. It was. It was the moment of the year. And she's like sort of reminiscing right now after this, everyone please well them to your ears. Nicky, Oh my god, I have so many people to think that. Seriously,

I feel honored, so honored that you went there. That was really nice that all those things you just said, But the fact that you guys were in the crowd for Nicky and Sarah Live taping makes me just feel so good. It makes me feel so cool because you

guys are so freaking funny and like that. You would have been into me when you were like younger and and excited by all of that just as much as I was, because I was dying at the fact that I was in the Tyrrel studio and to do this dream and like not really knowing what I was doing, but that just means a lot to me and I have so God, you guys are so so fun and funny and that was such a joy to listen to your conversation. I have so much to like talk about

that stuff. Armiehammer, by the way, so much more than just alleged cannibal He have you guys heard about? Was like the rape, Like have you heard? Because I and then you heard the realty and it was just That's the thing is, whenever that comes up, I love to clarify and be like we can go ha ha. He eats humans, but he raped a girl that he had convinced was his girlfriend. She had met his mom. He had gone to Texas to me his mom read the

Vanity Fair article about him. If you really want to feel like you like read a book and like learn something that will help you in life. Because this knowledge I'm letting people know m is not like a punchline

about like because I just missed the cannibal stuff. I honestly thought it was like funny because I was like, I don't know, it's kind of I could see saying some really fucked up things when I'm horny that I don't really want to do or like you, and then you saw the branding and you're like all the time, Like, honestly, if the things you said or like and you can get horny enough, guy's text dumb stuff And I don't

think shame. So if you like to fantasize about eating body parts but you don't do it, I don't care, Like who cares. I could be into it. I could probably love a guy and be like, yeah, you can tell me you're gonna eat me, eat me up. Also, it's just like I don't know about you, guys, but sometimes like I'll like after I sexed or whatever, I'll look back at what I said and are you guys

just always like oh my god. Or sometimes like right after watchorn and you think about what you've seen, you're like, wow, that's like a base level of sexuality and humanity that I may never want to return to. But no, I will, yes, and you will. You will be back. I started doing

this thing where I I used to send myself. It was so hard for me to find the kind of porn I liked, and it would always find like I was just uh, So often I would just stop master reading because I'm like, there's nothing that will do it. And then I'd find this specific thing and I'd send it to myself, so I had an email chain to myself after if it made me calm, I would like send it to myself. And I've anymore because I've gotten it's become easier because I've become kind of dependent on porn.

I found. I found a way to make born work for me in a very efficient way. Still thinks me about forty minutes. But I'm like a scribe subscribe member. I spent like a hundred bucks a month on porn like good, okay, good, You're not alone. I subscribe to Seaun Cody, Cocky Boys, Gay Hoopla. I'm on like four people's only fans. Yeah, I'm spending dollars on my point and I feel good about it. But I weren't wonder sometimes if that is, you know, over indulging or is

that becoming addiction? Like when do I have to go let me cut back because maybe they'll make me want real people? Is that why I'm single? But I gotta be honest. I was hooking up recently, like pretty frequently, and I missed my Dungeon girls. I was like, I gotta go visit the girls at the dungeon. Make sure I gotta refill their water bowls. Like I felt like

I like girls. I left because I watched some weird like kind of you know, like b DSM stuff, and I felt like I kind of miss master my ladies, my girls that are just like you know, pushing themselves to the limit and training really hard to be like the best left they can be. Like that's what my genre is. Like a girl. It's it's the portant version of me. It's like I like gang bangs because it's a girl that's just like stuggling so much, and you're like, how does she do all that? And forward in an

industry you that they said I couldn't make it. Yes, it doesn't, just how does she do all that? Like I really do feel like I'm in a gang bang in show business sometimes with like the podcasting and like the the I have to prepare for this monologue I'm about to give on this show. Also I have to do falon Like they're like, don't forget the gang bang. It is a gang bang. I really like to watch a girl get it and be and when the guys are like the thing that's rare though, and they tell

her a good job. They that's where all it is is like it's mostly like anger at her and like like kind of it's just too rough where you're like be impressed by her. It's rare that you'll find people that are like and a dress and has this great chock where she's gonna say this is really good. She just just just like that you would do understand up where she was like my my favorite. The point I wish I could see is that a girl's at a gang bang and then after it's done, you see her

walk to her car. You see her get walks to a car and like and make sure that she like rounds at the corner around like the guy checks in later and it's like this responsible thing. But it's like it's not what we see. And that's how you know that women are not creating the porn. It's so true. You just want the guy to like be be like concerned for your well being. And the thing is gangbangs are not really They're like they seem like they would

feel amazing if they're done right for a girl. And I feel like guys a lot of times view them as like she this is not for her, this is for us, and I'm like, no, this is for me. That would be for me. I mean I've never done it, but I would like I put myself in that all the time. I don't know if it's something I have to do before I find the one or if it's something that I want to do once I find the one.

And then I'm like, so if I meet a guy and he's like, I'm not into that stuff, I'm like, oh, do I need to go get to go to a sex club and get that done? Or am I only

going to live that through fantasy? Because sometimes I'm watching this stuff and I go, you have enough money make this happen, like like I can pay for this experience, or like, you know, I've I have the connections to find the people that will make this a reality for me, and I could be it could be a private way, and I'm why don't I just do that, you know what I mean? But I'm also terrified of it and

want to keep it in the computer. And also, you're already in the gang bang of show business, like you don't need something you can't add. Curator of a porn website to that list. I mean, I just don't think

it would work with the dates. But if it becomes a passion project, then I can make time for it, you know, like if it really is something, if it becomes like a hoby because I was like maybe because I was struggling with hobbies over the pandemic, Like I'm like, I don't think I do much other things than work, and now I'm exploring, like what do I like really like And I'm like, maybe, like that kind of world could be a interesting thing, but um um, I'll start

with guitar before a stranger exactly. Anytime someone asks me what my hobbies are, I don't know what to say, and I think it's a more natural response or it just would make sense for me to be like, oh, sex would be a hobby of mine, or like learning to like do things in a specific way sexually could

be a hobby of mine. I've never actually gone down this path though, Well this is this is why it's getting weird for me, and like in the quarantine, like because you're trying to especially like early on when it was like I really wasn't sucking that much before I

started to st step out and do all that. Like I I started using poppers when I was jacking off, and unfortunately, like it's so good and sort of takes you there to the point where it's like there was a point where like I was doing it like every day, and I was like, no, the brain cell laws. It just like not going to ultimately be good for me. I'm telling you, fully addicted to ammal nitrate. It was like, wait,

what water poppers? Please explain this to me. Heard of that, but I don't understand came here because it sounds like something I want to get into. I think you would actually love them, Nikki, Okay, so bones a chemistry major, so he can sort of like break through what a popper really is. So I think I think you would love them. They're they're they're they're they're ammal nitrates. Um, they're basically they're advertised their their packaged as VC are

cleaner al polished remover. But they're inhalence through your nostrils and it just gives get them maskim demonstrate. I have them in my bedroom, but it's a little bit further away. So but they very active. No no, no, no, no, it's I don't think they're there. They're not habit forming or anything that you you inhale them. One nostrils matskna demonstrate, so maskwa demonstrate. So what we have here is like

you see, it's it's called rush. This is like sort of like the Coca Cola of of poppers, sort of ubiquitous brand, not necessarily the best. So maybe that's not the best analogy, but um so masna demonstrate. And it just gives you this head you're doing what, Yeah, it gives you this head rush and and it vaso dilates you so that it loosens up, loosens you up. Right, So there's gonna be period where feeling really good and you're gonna see me sweat and it's and it's quick.

But right now, like if I wanted to ease onto a dick right now, it would be like a lot easier. Okay, I know. So this is this is the thing that helps you relax for anal sex. But why but why jerking off is this helpful if you're not having a penetration it helps. Sometimes I'll do poppers when I'm watching porn just to like like what Matt said, take me there and like transport me mindset wise, and I do feel like much hornier in that in that high space. Matt,

how you feeling? I mean, I feel amazing. Oh my god, why don't you do it all the time. Then I'm like that with weed, like weed makes me feel amazing, and then I want to do it over and over and then you it starts to not work and then you're like, oh, this is just gross, and it's like that to me is dangerous. But I I completely understand what because for I, like I love anal sex. It feels fucking awesome, yes, and an you got. And the thing is, I just and I don't understand when people

are like, oh, that's for gay guys. It's like assholes aren't different than other guys. Like if it feels amazing to you, it feels like that, and I won't actually won't have it. And now I'm like, you need to you need to go out and like find poppers now, especially you love anal sex, you need well. I love it. Well. The thing is, that's my favorite part of porn is like that part where you can tell the girl, like when they tell the girl to relax, because it's the

only way because it's total surrender. It's like you are completely submissive. It's like and it's the opposite of I actually don't like to be doing too much like I like to be like in my real life. I like to be very like in control in bedroom nothing and like when you actually let it dick and you're ask and you're able to relax enough to have that happen naturally, it's hard to do. It's really that's hard to do.

And you to be able to have that experience just brought on by something that you put up your ass, is what you know, you sniff it or do you sniff it? I mean and then and then it could be more comfortable to put something up grass, which is really the reason why you do it. But the thing is with but it's so do you find it hard to put something up your ass, like let's say your mastering and off some time, because for me, I can't. I can't do. That's my biggest complaint about masturbation is

like I need a fucking machine. I want something, and I actually do have. Most of my dildos have a thing that makes them move into pend so that it feels like someone else because I need that and I need clip so I need like to yeh, want something up my ask. So so it's like I need I need three hands to really get the job done and the way I want um. But yeah, masturbation for me is the whole process because of that. But do you when you masturbate you guys, do you stick something up

your ask? Will you put a finger or something or like a toy. I've done that. I started doing that in the fall, just to like because sometimes just to be totally easy because the weather changed, because the weather, just to leave the foiliest. I've been having trouble in the handful of times i've I've bottomed, I've just had sex. Recently,

I'm having trouble coming while something is inside me. The thing they don't tell you about anal sex is that it does hurt every time in the beginning, like like it's not something where it's like you do it enough times and it's like, oh, forget it now, you can just slip in when when the dick first go goes in.

I think it does hurt every time, and there is that period of adjustment, which is why these are so handy, and also just the mentality and the knowledge of the fact that like the pain is a part of it in the beginning, and then I'm off to the y. And I spent my entire twenties so afraid of bottoming. I mean, I'm telling you, like the pain is not

something I like to embrace. But I mean, like Boom will tell you, I had like such a complex about this from my whole twenties, Like was that were you scared of the pain or the well both, I guess right, because like the poop is such as the pain, I was like I could take it. Yeah, there's such a pot of poop. And I've prepared poorly several times, and I look forward to now, like just committing to this is something I enjoy and this is how I prepare

for it and not just winging it. Mm hmmah yeah, no, no no no. But the same time, it's like I have to give gray I get. I also give grace. Now. It's like whenever anyone feels they prepared and they obviously haven't, I just give them the grace that I know I would want given to me, you know what I mean. And this is the only way I'm even close to a Christian. It's like I give grace when it comes to bottoming. I hope to receive grace if there's a little bit of poop at the end. Guess what we

just fucked in our assholes. So it's actually okay and no one's gonna be dead. Like there's so much like like this, like weird like ick factor around poop during sex. And I believe we talked about this recently. Did we not bo of what I've just poop? Being president? That ick factored on on during sex about repoop? Yeah, we have, we have, we have, yeah, And it's just like it's gotta, we gotta, we gotta end the stigma. Well, the only thing I I understand the shame around pooping, like let

it go. And I was able to do that, Like if I should on a guy, I'm like, you're the one with your dick in my ass, Like this is that's where I do that. It's like the actually the primary use of that is that so it shouldn't be a surprise. And I've had boyfriends really handle it very perfectly and not make me feel bad. Change the bed sheets while I'm in the shower still and I come back, it's like a fresh bed. It's like it never happened.

It's like really sweet things. But the thing that bumps me out is like it smells like ship in the room. You know, like if you like the second the ship smells introduced to sex, it like makes me it makes you lose your guy loses erection. It makes me like, oh my god, am I like it's the smell. But if you got if you lost your smell in COVID, then it's really no problem. That's the benefit of losing it all the anal I want, that's the benefit of

that's the benefit of COVID. Yeah, just silver lining. Now I get anti vaxers, They're like, well, I'm hoping to get it, so my sense of smell goes away, so I don't smell poop when I get fun in my ass. It's like, okay, anti perspective, that is the one I will allow. I have one friend who is scared of needles, and I have one wants to have anal sex with a banda and the smell like ruined the mood. Were

you on an island recently? Are? Yeah? We talked about this because we we we weren't following along the saga necessarily, But tell us what's what's happened on the island. Yes, I um, well, I can't talk about what I was doing, but I was, well, I I can't say I was I was on a show there. I was doing a new show and sell me a new show on location, which is like the greatest time of my entire life, just like being with a big group of people, meeting

new people. We we there's no COVID in it came in Islands on Grand Camons, so we quarantined for two weeks and then we were free to roam about the country at our late leisure for two whole months making a show. And it was a show that I signed on for because I just it just fit with everything I want to do in life, Like it just was like I after COVID, I was just like I only want to do things that are like fun and weird

and just seem like an adventure. And I was scared to go because it's just like I was just scared to be social. I was scared to be somewhere where like the world was open again and like I have to be social and make friends and but in terms of the work, I was just in a zone where it was like I had no nerves about it. I'm like, I've got this, Like I they made the right choice with me very confident going into it, so I was able to just have so much freaking fun and uh.

And I lived in the Cayman Islands and then the show wrapped and I didn't want to go home. I just stayed alone. I met some friends like I've met like my makeup artist. I became really good friends. So I made some friends that were able, but I just stayed. I couldn't let it go. I just like stayed on the island for two weeks in this joke hotel that was like sweets are usually four thousand dollars a night, and I got them for six under a night, which

is still a lot of money. But like, I was living large in the Cayman Islands for two weeks by myself, just like processing what I had been through and being grateful and just dreading going back to the States, like to wear masks again and then and then now I'm back to the grind but and live in St. Louis. But it was it was just the best location is legit. It's like summer camp. God, wow, have you guys ever

done that? Have you ever been on like a thing somewhere where everyone's kind of there for just a short amount of time. I'm about I'm about you, but it sounds like a fucking dream. It's if you're with the right people and find your right group, it is. It's like it really is summer camp. It was so fun and I'm with a bunch of people that have been doing this forever, so I'm like, is this like the

best and they're like, you'll get you, You'll see. But I was having I was so enthusiastic about it, Like this is the life I want because I guess just traveling all the time doing stand up you never are somewhere long enough where you learn where you're you are, you know the coffee shop, you like to go to, the restaurants, and like you just the people are always different.

And I was just like it's just so nice to like show up to a place and like they're the same people and like, I don't know, I'm just stand up. I'm looking forward to getting back into it, but I'm making it a whole like my tour. It is just gonna be me with a caravan of friends. Gotta gotta keep it as fun as possible. I'm not doing any more work. That's not fun. I can't write, but I've

only just I'm only just now able to write. Are you like booked up as it like one night in this city and then the next night and another and the next night and another. Are you giving yourself some

grace days? Because when we tore it was kind of we always say like, oh, we wish we had spent we've been able to land for like at least two or three days in this one spot, Like it's important because you make the place, and you're like, why did I travel if I wasn't going to actually like at least be there for two days and at least have one day in the city and then one night out of a restaurant or like a club or something or

bar or whatever, like are you giving yourself that? I think it's a really good idea, but I just don't know that I can make it happen because I want to be home when I'm not working like I would like. I'm trying to have some sort of place that I can call home, and if I do that too much, I'll always be on the road. So it's just like two cities in one weekend then I'm home the rest of the time. But it's like I don't know, I'm I'm getting to the age where it's like this is

getting old. This just like working every night doing standardating sets, and I don't want to live that life, and like ants like I will definitely always do stand up and always do specials and work really hard when I'm working on one. But this, I'm so glad for me that COVID maybe like figure out what I could do at night besides stand up or fill my life with besides

running around doing podcasts. And it really is just opening my computer doing podcasts and then uh and and and but not doing zoom shows, like but watching TV, going to like eating dinner and then like going to bed. I've never done that in the seventeen years I've been doing stand up comedy. Is just like have an evening in if they're stand up, I will be at it and I don't want to do it anymore. Entired, No, because this is the thing in this new show that's

out Hacks on HBO Max. This this this Jane Smart character like is a Joan Rivers like Philistiller type who like has just has has never stopped working in her in her life and and then like it's got me

to rethink the whole way. Like people talk about like the art of showing up or whatever it's like, but showing up is actually like overrated in some ways, especially especially after you put in the hours and you like and you paid your dues and all that, Like, at a certain point you have to decide for yourself, oh, I'm not going to do uh to quote Chad Michael's and Paul's drag Rays the Chicken chick gigs, I'm not

gonna do like that stuff. It's well, you know what, you really need a period of yes before you can realize what's too much? Like I had that like when I was on my on the grind and like in our twenties bow like when it was like doing a ton of ton of ton of ton of ton and then you just realize, like you have only slept for five hours the night before or maybe combined, like your sleep your average of sleep is like six seven hours for like two or three days. Do you know how

good it feels to sleep eight hours a night? If you can do that, you can figure that out if you have the time and availability to eat well and sleep. It just makes you a more like valid human being.

It's just so much easier. So like I get people are like, you know, whatever, self care has now become like like a sort of ghost thing to say, because it's like everyone's saying in self care, everyone's talking about it, but they got a fucking point because you know that is something that quarantine lets, you know, is it's like sometimes that pace of living, if you're always tired all

the time, is not normal. It's not normal. And the self care thing, we it needs to be trendy because we are Americans work so hard that we need The only way we'll adopt something is if it is trendy and like the cool thing to do, because we don't like ourselves and we value ourselves based on how much output we do and how much we protect. Like can say that we work so that we can deserve the thing. We can't eat the thing unless we go to the class and then we can't and we can't. I can't, um,

I mean, my whole life is a reward system. I can't enjoy my I can't sit down and watch TV if I haven't done anything all day, Like I can't take a nap unless I'm desperate for a nap, and it's like, why can't I just lay down because I want to. It's like I'm I'm really into that stuff now and because it feels so good and that's what we're meant to do, so I think we have to make it like trendy, so anyone does it because I'm tired of people thinking it's cool to be tired and

I used to be that way. It's like of like, how much you didn't sleep and it's like you shouldn't be here, you're drunk. I don't want to hear how the p A is underslept on the show because he's driving a bus of people and he doesn't know how to drive in this country or what you know what, Like there are things there's like sleep deformation is really fucked and we're all walking around with it and are you know the screens are doing ship to us too.

It's like I love sleep, but sometimes I'm just like the every day you wake up and it's like another full day of NonStop work and you when you get to the end of it, you just don't want to go to sleep because you want to do you want to be awake for some relaxation and then leads to more sleeping, Like sleeping is not what I want to

do when I'm most tired for some reason. And that's actually the most sucked up thing, because it's not every night that that happens to me, but some nights it is that thing where it's like, well, I've earned some some reward for for all the work that I've put in today and and and most of the time it's

just better to just know shutdown. But wait, okay, hold on, you want your you want your dates down to be like you're bringing friends, Like what's like describe like an ideal night like in in some city like with who Yeah, well, I always have my podcast uh co host Andrew Colin. He's my best friend. He's my roommate. I moved him from New York City where he was. We were always working together and he's on my radio show and he's a stand up comic and he's hoping for me on

the road for a couple of years now. I moved him to St. Louis because I was living with my parents the whole pandemic. I wanted to move out of their house, but I also could not be alone. I just know that if I'm not doing stayd up every night and like socializing, then I could be alone. But so I was like, Andrew moved to St. Lewis and started this podcast with me, so every day I do

this podcast with him now. So when we're going on the road now, I'm like, Okay, Andrew's opening for me, I'm gonna bring my um my other best friend, Anya Marina. She's amazing singer, did a lot of grades and animal songs back in the day, like she did her cover of t I s whatever you Like is the hottest thing. I mean, I was a sand before I was a friend and it's so sexy and um She's just she's incredible. So she opens for me. She opened for me on my last tour, so she'll be there. She's just like

a calming presence. She was my tour manager last time though, too, and I and I made a change the time. I'm like, I'll pay you the same, but you're not tour managing because I want you no stress. I want you doubt to hang and be like my emotional support friend. And then I'm also I also might start getting into town the day before and during the day of my show, I might do Taylor Swift sing alongs where I play

guitar and everyone comes, like to a cafe. It's like free for like swift ease, because I don't I'm playing guitar now and singing all the time, and I just want to sing Taylor Swift with other Swifties. So I might do swift e meetups also come to the right place. You know that we are about Taylor Swift so badly because no one gets it, like like I know that you guys do because I heard I heard your one where you covered folklore. I think it was I think

it was right with folklore. It was so just nuanced and really came from a perspective of of two people that I know love her as much as I knew would really appreciate her. And so yeah, I just I know that as a thirty six sooner be thirty seven year old Swifty, I would want to go somewhere and sing with a bunch of other girls. So even if it's bad, which I'm not good at guitar, I'm like, we'll all saying, it will just be so fun. It just I was doing Taylor Swift Dance Party storying with Covid.

I would just do a playlist and we'd all just dance on zoom like hundreds of people, and it was so fun because I just I just she really makes me happy, and I like, like I listened to I have to, Like, I watched her Grammy performance now before I go like on a podcaster if I'm on my way to a set and I'm like kind of nervous and want to get into like my energy of being like I got this, I'm a pro. Like, I watched her latest Grammy performance because it's just masterful and emotional

and raw. Uh yeah, she just gets me in the right place. She goes into Willow and August, so yeah, she's Yeah. She started on uh Cargan Cardigan, August Willow. When she snuck August in there, I was like, thank you for giving August the moment, the live like Awards Show moment, because August was obviously on an album full of highlights, like it was the highlight of absolutely was the highlight and just a song that is resonated with

me throughout. At the first moment I heard it, I have meet me behind the mall is like canceled my plans just in case you call back when I was living for the hope of it and meet me behind the Oh, it's so heartbreaking and like it's just it has this Christian it's it brings the bridge in very soon and then it doubles down. Is brilliant that it's all over the place and it's so good and it's and you're right, like the Pond Sessions didn't give me

what I wanted. Even though Jack anson off during August on this Pond Sessions it's hilarious, but I wanted a like full I wanted her standing up off of a couch, you know, like then that gave it to me too. But August was my my number one Spotify play like it was. I couldn't stop and I and I still play it all the time. I just I just sang it with my friends. I made my friends come over and stick it with me in the courtyard. I think, where in this in this weird zone in terms of

swifty age, where when you guys get on board? I was on board ever since Fearless. Yeah, I would say that when I started to when I started to become legit, legit, legit was probably the tail end of red and then into any night. So I was a little. I was a little I guess late. I know that there's like hard course make lee title. Yeah, but but when I tell you when I joined the bandwagon, I joined it hard like it was like her masterpiece. I actually I

stand reputation. I stand we are this is a reputation house, this is this is one here thank you. I a reputation. I mean the whole album. I celebrate, there are no doubts on it. I was just on a subreddit, Taylor Swift subreddit, and they were ranking her songs by album.

And it's funny because Taylor swifties don't we'll never say anything bad about Taylor Swift, like you know, like they we can you know, stand culture, you just don't, and that they do the surveys some teenager made it was like, uh, like you're not. They didn't say least favorite, but it was like, uh, it started with there was some way they did it so that you wouldn't be saying it was your least favorite or something like that. But it's so they're so nice and I love swift ease and

that's why and I feel like I'm one. I just Taylor Swift ninety nine dropped and hearing, and I went to a Read concert and I got into Read a lot, but there was just something about nine nine and then going to that show, I just and then reputation was for me, what just like, uh, where is this? You'll never be the same, Nikki, because you are her delicate, her delicate same for the best. It steals my it's my alarm every morning. I don't get rich sick of it. I I do not get sick of that song. It's

just it's disgusting. And I don't know about you, but like you said, like and I want to ask everyone what their favorite live Taylor performances, but this is one that so I might be the biggest. I know you probably do, but there for me, there's two. One. There's a live performance that she did of Treacherous, which is um. It was like um, she had like her bangs and

are like her like liberal artist. The kids are sitting and she's and she is like she's just explaining it in the beginning and then does it and then it's so good. Her vocals so great. But my favorite performance of hers is Wildest Dreams from the tour, which is

a uh I believe it's a mash up. Oh my god, it enchanted Wildest Dreams mash up because I'm telling you, she sings the Wildest dream Bridge over and over like three extra times, and then she does the chorus at the end, and that she gets it from the piano and starts doing her white girl stomp and she's giving you her hips and she's just given. She's so Taylor.

And I also like, for me, my favorite type of song is like an emotional ballad that lifts off like I Wildest Dreams to me, is I did that thing. I don't know if you guys have done this, but like they'll like UM do like the march madness the brackets with her songs, And no matter what I do, wild the Streams always wins. And I know that no one else is saying that but me. But Wildest Dreams to me, is it? I just got into Wildest Dreams

like a month ago. I know, I know, it was just one that I like, was like, it's great, I know it and I could say it, you know, I know all the lyrics, but I just really for her. I gotta feel that I have to go through what that I need. I seek out her songs to feel my feelings. I can't get there really otherwise. So I will go through when I'm going through a heartbreak or feeling like the industry is, I'll find the song and I'm and wildest dreams. I was just like seeing, like

will this fit my mood today? And I go, holy shit, every aspect of what I wanted and it was just like this. It was like, it's like porn for my emotions, Like it really just like got everything out that I needed. And then the music video where she has the h but I can't wait to watch that lie. I haven't watched that live performance because enchanted. That is so good.

And do you know that it was written about the lead singer of that one band that did I Get a Thousand Hugs from ten Thousand fires Flies lead singer about Sliddy? She met him at a party and she she wrote that song about him, and then by the time of she was like super famous and he found out it was about him, and he like slid back in and he like, I think wrote a song or recovered it. He covered it to day her attention again and she never acknowledged it's what's your Number? One? She

had moved on. My number one line is a tie between. But they're from the same they're from the same concert quote unquote, which is her Grammy's Museum performances. What I'm talking about. It's but it's the acoustic version of blank Space and then and then it's the fucking like just like Jeff Buckley guitar version of Wild the Streams, and like both of those. She's just and also like this is so shallow, but her look was so perfect. She's just in a black and a black mock neck, black pants.

Her hair was perfectly like just brushed and like gentle curl up, like curl up around the frame of her face, so poised and just perfect and confident. And she's had the Grammys too, so she's like she's she's like, she's at the top. Yeah, it was Imperial phase. We always

say the star burned brightest, not not that. And the thing is she has had this many times because she's very good at reinventing sort of Madonna ask in that way where it's like, you know, there's just a constant sort of reinvention happening with her and especially now with essentially Nymph in the Woods culture that's happening, which we love like which in the woods moment, uh, but that was so she was really hitting it at that show. Oh my god, the blank space I really love I have.

She she does the enter she goes and she's talking about like, you know, I'm getting ridden up all the time. It's really fun. She's she's really so like we live been obsessed with my love life and paying attention every detail.

It's really fun. So imagine, like, what if that character that people think that I am wrote a song and it just I guess I never thought of that song that way, and it's that song is so great because I've started doing that version of that song, like I learned how to play a guitar the same way and and I and I'm like, I'm not good at the

singers whom I'm not as good a guitarists. But I've been working on the performance of it, and I was listening to thinking about the lyrics, and I'm like, I love this song because this song is this woman psycho. And she starts out so nice, nice to meet you where you've been. Oh my god, I can show you incredible things. But then she's like, I'll find out what you want I'll be that girl for a month. Oh wait,

the worst is yet to come. But she's saying it with a smile, and then it gets into like crying, screaming doors and it just becomes crazy and like she and she acts as out obviously in the music video and it was a very like very heavy handed good message but that I miss but I just love that this now I'm realizing, like, Okay, if I'm going to perform music, I'm not that good at singer and guitar, maybe I can bring some comedic value to it of

like unpiecing this character of who this girl is. So it's like I've been trying to explore her songs that way, just analyzing the lyrics because there's no one better than I mean, I just I'm so so I'll get to my favorite live performance. Sorry for all of that, I

will have to say. I can't get over the I cannot get over the camera fucking with her eyes she does on Betty the American Country Music Awards Acoustic showed up at your party, and she's like, guys, watch go back and watch that, and like she is looking a camera like I felt I was like aroused by it and I just thought it was like, so, I just love her very acoustic, and her outfit for that was

very toned down. She did her own makeup. But then if her Cornelia Street, Um, the Paris one I really love because of that city screams your name, that like you that she reaches, it's like it's like more rugged. I just yeah, but literally every single one, she just

can't go wrong. And she's gotten so much better with time, and it just it's fun to watch her old stuff because I didn't get into her until so late and just see just you know, I feel like I feel very I relate to Taylor Swift a lot, and I'm just scared she's going to have kids because then I'll stop relating to her. No, no, no, I don't think

she's so aware. She's so in touch with like what people like about her that I think she'll She'll never be she'll never lose that self awareness in terms of like how it translates, how it translates to her music,

or how she connects to her her listeners. Um, but wait, talk about your personal history with Taylor Swift, especially the Swifties, because because because there was that like weird time when it felt when it felt like volatile and hostile, right, and like I like I've experienced this with swifties too, or like they've come after me. They're really really sensitive, and that's what I was. I was anticipating them being very,

very angry at me. They didn't come at me because I got ahead of it before they could figure out who I was. But I really ended up. So I was in the trailer for Miss Americana that dropped, oh a week before We Americana came out the documentary on Netflix, and I at midnight the trailer dropped as a swifty.

I pulled it up and in bed watching it, and I hear my own voice and I was just like, it's during the part of the documentary that's like like where she she's like I had to go away for a year and it's like a bunch of people saying shitty things and me being like she has all these model friends, she's too skinny. It's like, I don't like it. It's just me just being not funny, just like and it's my voice. I sent it to all my friends and I'm like, you, guys, I'm even the Steelership documentary

and they're like that is not you. You would never say those things, and I'm like, I know it's me. Of course I would because like I I know that I used to mouth off about her because I was so like wanting to be her, and I felt like now she's a model, and now she's it's like the thing I just said, I don't want her to have kids because I will relate And I'm like, now you're friends with the only hot deeds, like you're I'm losing you.

And that's part of loving someone so much is you sometimes do say something teasing them, like the one that we stand, Well, it's because so I get what you were doing. But yeah, and it was the same though, like I love her so much, I felt I was losing her. Two models into that, Like I thought I was gonna lose her and so I was gonna shame

her for it. That she'd come back to me the way like my my best friend Kersen in high school, Like like when I found out she was like blew someone, I just like I cried and cried because I was like, I lost you, like I didn't. I can't do that. I'm not going to be able to do that and talk to you and relate to you anymore. So that's how I felt about Taylor Swift being skinnier than me. It's like, honestly and like being so like well quoft and shiny and like model, like she's alleged she could

be a model, like a runway model, you know. And so I lashed out on some dumb show and then I uh, I waited a week, and during that week I couldn't listen to Taylor Swift music. I was just like, I've done my girl wrong. I don't know how bad this is going to be. Like I just the thought of her made me like sad because I was like, I hurt her, and I didn't know what the impact was going to be in terms of like how I

come off on the secondary what else? I said. I didn't even look up the clip, and I'm like, I don't even want to know. It's what's done has done. My agents and everyone were like, don't make this thing because you know, we don't want to upset her or anything, Like I go, can you can you find out what part of this? They were like, we're not gonna say anything. So then someone got a pret screener and was like, you're in it and I was like, oh God, damn it. And I finally watched it and it was just it

was a clip of me. It wasn't my name. They didn't use my name like or like you do a chiron for me, but it's my face and it's a video of me going, she's just all she has model friends, she's too skinny. It's like, come on. It was just just me being like just a little bit like bitching about, like gossipy and not funny. Like if it was funny, I could even justify it, but it wasn't and I wouldn't even then. So I just felt really sad, and I caught a couple like hateful d m s but

not like from people who really did their work. And then all day I was like I couldn't even feel my feelings because I couldn't listen to Taylor Swift to process what I was feeling about Taylor Swift because it triggered me so much to be like, I don't listen to this person that probably hates me. And so I was like walking around the city. I didn't know what to do, and I was like, I have to apologize.

I didn't want to go through my agents because I thought that they would probably be so scared of even talking her that they'd tell me that they wrote late Senator, and then they wouldn't, and then I wouldn't lie about it because to protect me in because they're liars and so um you know when they lie for a living. So I I I just decided to put out a picture of me and a Taylor Swift shirt and then write a caption being like, hey, I was in this thing, and I thought it was I thought it was a

perfectly written thing. It wasn't trying to like protect myself

from Swift because they weren't really coming after me. It was honestly to make like to have a chance of getting this in front of her eyes, because I thought, maybe she'll see this and she'll know that I am someone who struggled with eating disorders and like the fact that I may have contributed to hers and anyway by commenting on her body like was and and and then then I admitted to just being jealous and I thought it was And then she she wrote a comment back

and I literally can't even remember what it was because I saw it. I couldn't look again, like it was too much like I just like was like thank you, Taylor, and then I was like I don't even know what it was, and so that, and but the way she wrote it was like so like, oh my god, this means so much to me, Like it was just that

you said that. I think, I think because you know, the thing, the thing that I think sometimes we forget about people that are this big is that like they do have the Internet and they are human beings, and the thing is like, you know, especially I think when

someone is like really funny. I I think for for a lot of musicians too, they look at like funny people as like people that have like some sort of like uh I on the whole thing, and like when whenever a comedian makes fun of them, it's always like, oh, it's their job, it's a comedian making fun of me. But also there I think there's an insinua. There's like probably a false insinuation that comedians are like smart or all seeing or we'll call out the thing that everyone's thinking.

So there is that thing of like, oh, comedian made fun of me, Like am I this thing? And so I think like for you to own it like that, even if you didn't need to, even if it was just like something you tossed off and like you did not need to beat yourself bad. I think she is a human being. Was like, oh, this like cool, funny, gorgeous comedian that like you know, may have bothered me, like owned this went out of her way to do this and be like, I have such a respect an

admiration for you. I'm sorry. And she did reply very thoughtfully, and you could tell that she wouldn't have just said that had not been something that was really meaningful. And I thought the whole thing was great, Thank you, and I honestly want to take this opportunity to address another time.

I talked to Taylor's that it was before Miss Americana, but it only came out after Miss Americana, So I felt like if she could have seen it, like it was only after my apology and then I take this wing before so but it's like bonus, exactly what you're saying of like the people you love so much and you know the most about you, have the most opinions about you as a comedian and maybe make the most

fun of. But honestly, when I did Dancing with the Stars, I kind of signed up for that because I like there was a part of me that was like, Taylor Swift makes like kind of white girl dancing, like not like King, you know, like in the shake uh you know, shake it Off video. It was like she was like people accused her of appropriating, but she was just bad at She wasn't that good at some in some of those dances. It wasn't but it looked fun and it was fun to watch, which is what dancing is. It

doesn't mean it's bad. But the truth is Taylor Swift is actually a great dancer. She is. So I did that. I didn't have my knowledge when I said that. So in a couple of interviews, I said the fact that Taylor Swift can be a bad at dancing and own it and I love her so much and I like watching her bad dancing, And I didn't. I was speaking from a place of like assuming she was bad dancing,

but not really having seen it. So someone I a fan of mine, met her and she and this is before MS Americana went backstage and said, I Nikki Glazer loves you? Do you do you know Nikki Glazers comedian

that loves you? And she goes, is that the one that says that my badcing inspired her, and I was like, so Taylor's heard me say that, and that makes me so sad because I want to if so, if anyone out there listening to this knows Taylor Swift, will you let her know that the truth behind me referencing her being a bad dancer and stuffect that I'm a bad dancer, And so I projected that onto her, not knowing how

good she dances. Then I saw her her video delicate and that bitch can dance, and she that girl can

do anything she puts her mind too. And then I've also seen reputation like since then, I've immersed myself in her live performances, which I hadn't before, and knowing what I know from Dancing with the Stars and how hard it is to dance, that girl, the fact that she's able to dance as good as she can and everything else as good as Again, she's a very good dancer, and I would never compare myself to her again in

the dancing realm. At this point in her career, I think Taylor Swift must understand or have some empathy towards the people who make any swipe in her not that not that you saying that she was a bad dancer was a swipe. And the people who make a swipe at her, it is a projection. They are seeing her is this test they see what they want to see out of her. When when this like she knows, that's smart enough to know that. But this this girl gets revenge.

She has driven by that. And I remember, like she wrote a whole song mean about someone saying that she couldn't sing, you know, so for for me and as someone who is very similar to her in that way, I think I'm projecting onto her that like the fact if someone were to say something like that about me, it would stick in my crap. I would remember it. She she thinks of a bad dancer, like I actually thought it was really good and delicate. And the truth is you were and you are a good dancer, and

I wasn't. I hadn't seen that yet. So and she doesn't take jokes about herself well as you know, untouchable in terms of that, like the line in that Netflix show, do you remember that? That was the whole thing? And I think that was a little like I understand where she's coming from. She's like tired of the same jokes being made that she dates a lot, but that was like a that that I was like, wow, okay, you

know what. She definitely was probably upset my dancing thing, and I'm not sensitive to I I honestly think, yeah, it was. It was definitely indicative of a sensitivity that we obviously know is there because but it's an interesting thing with her because we we know her as like

being two things. An incredibly sensitive person and that makes her such a great artist, but also an incredibly smart and shrewd businesswoman and like someone who is very in charge of their brand and very smart about their brand. And I say this not in a pejorative but calculated about the way that her business is done. So when those two things are both true, I think it's almost

hard to reconcile. And I do think that the thing about Taylor Swift is like for anyone in the millennial age group or or or a couple of years out, she is probably the biggest pop star of our time.

And so with that and end the knowledge that we are living in the age of social media that really took over during her rise to being number one, and how she stayed there, there's a lot to negotiate, So it's like the way you talk about celebrities, especially the way you talk about women, the way you talk about um, you know, the way women have conflict with each other,

the way that they negotiate those conflicts. I mean, it's just a lot, and there's a lot to learn about her red the way that she's consumed by the media and the populace that probably could be like a college course taught on this. Honestly, she's living experienced only the Beatles and Michael Jackson, like she's living in such I can't imagine what it would be like to be her and for her to crank out these songs that are still so relatable with her life as such a megastar.

Is is really says something about her character. But I mean I even feel it. I remember recently someone I was like like romantically involved with us, like teasing me about my looks in a way that I was just like, I don't I don't want to be called I don't want any like jokes about my looks. I really feel like it's it's and it's just like I don't understand that, like you're the most beautiful, but like you know, that's

a total joke. That I would say, you look like that thing that you don't even like there was He just couldn't understand that I would ever feel ugly, and I go, or that I would feel hurt by this absurd comparison, right, And I go, well, because I grew up like I felt ugly as a little girl, I'm still in that and I've accepted myself and I like myself, but I can't handle being mocked for my like features. And it's not that I can't handle it. I get it everywhere, like I do get it when I've signed

myself up for a roast. So there's been like jokes that have been presented that are really hurtful to my feelings that are repeated over and over on Twitter and YouTube comments, and it's just like comparing me to Larry Bird or you know, Owen Wilson or saying like you know, horse face, stuff like that. You get that all the time. And he's like, don't read the comments, and I just I fucking so easy for you to say. And the thing is, I don't read comments. I don't I haven't

read a YouTube comments. It's two thousand eleven, Like I'm not kidding you. I don't read comments. I have to read through Instagram stuff to interact with fans. I have to read tweets too. That's if you can't avoid it. Even if you avoid it. The ship, Yeah, the ship gets through that filter anyway, of course it does. It

gets through it anyway. And so I said, I get that all out there, but for someone that was him, not understanding what it's like to be a public figure and to be mocked, and and I come off like this, like I only want everyone to like be nice to me and kind of me. It's like, well, I think I deserve that because a lot of people get to be vocal about how they hate me more so than a normal person. So celebrities tend to want to be held like handled with kid gloves by the people closest

to them. And it kind of makes sense. It's and on Taylor Swift's level, I can't even imagine what that would be. Every it's people that love you. It's me, Nikki Glazer, who's your number one fan? Like those it's it's must be you can't you must turn on the TV going. I hope there's not a joke about me. That's what probably happened with Jinny and Georgia that show.

She probably was enjoying that show and then has suddenly taken out of it because this show thought of her as like presented her as something that she's not, and it's like that would hurt. That must have been the reason why she she tweeted about it was I bet because I just realized that because I go, why is such a venom? But it's like she wanted she was like trusting them to be nice to her and take her on a journey from her own life, like that's why we watched dramas like and then all of a

sudden they're making fun of you. Fuck you, So I get it. Um. I was just going to comment on that with Matt's comment about the millennial sort of aspect of it being being sort of like tied to like her, her, her her identity, and like the way that we have

any discourse about pop stars. It's interesting now because I'm talking to not even talking to anybody, but I'm just noticing that, like these new people that are coming up, like Girl and Red, there's she's a great Norwegian singer, um girl in Red and like Olivia Rodrigo, Like guess who's their number one inspiration. It's tail. I love it, but I love I love what we're gonna get. What we're gonna get exactly. But what we're getting is like this other generation of people who are inspired by here.

And I think by and large that younger listenership is like not does not have all this crazy these these they don't have all these weird hang ups about who who she dates and and what, like what her personality is or who her friends are. It's like they're just there because they loved her music. They listened to it. They listen to is like a seven year old let's say, and now and now it's and now they're fourteen, and now they're like, oh my god, Like it's like we love.

Like it's like the way that I relate to the Spice Girls because I was seven when I when the Spice Girls first came out. And I will never say a bad thing about the Spice Girls ever, you know, it's like that's what that's what's coming up now, and like I think it's cool. And then I was talking

to Celestium. They're they're they're writer snal they just turned twenty five of their baby um and I was like you like and uh, they're they're a lesbian And I was like, you like twolor stuff right, and they're like, I love Taylor Swift to know it's like and I was like, yeah, okay, Like what's with all these like these like kids liking Taylor now? And they were just like, I think it's code for um. It's it's code for

Dike energy. It's like you are like, um, you like you have the sensitivity or this like awareness of your own emotion. Oh my god, that checks out for all. I mean. I've I've recently felt like I might be in love with Taylor Swift the way I was in love with Dave Matthews in high school. Like she's kind of set me on this course of like I want to be in a relationship, like I want to protect her, and like I would like love I could. I could

probably date Taylor would I can. I can appreciate the fact that she would not want that from me, but I if she did, I would be down. And I don't and and and that makes me open to being like, Okay, well if I can love her them like it's maybe

I'll be. But but it's funny because the my adult friends that I've recently been like, hey, do you like I'm always king for other swifties to like heyn't talk swift with like and and the ones the girls I've met recently have been yeah, yeah, there's a whole, there's a there's a lot. She has a very very strong lesbian fan base, and obviously she's I think she's got

a very strong queer fan base. And I think that probably the last time she was discussed in like a you know, negative way, um was when the Lover album came out, and it felt like there was some pandering going on, which is an interesting time because I do think there was a lot of I roll coming from her queer fan base because it kind of felt like we already loved you, we didn't need you to do

all of this. But then it's like interesting because to slow you to roll just a second, like at the end of the day, Like, isn't it ned positive that she's like I am standing up, I say, like all queer people, you know what I mean. And still we were being snarky about it because I think it did have I think we've all been trained as we've as we've gotten older, you know, and sort of understood how

marketed to we all are. We've sort of been trained to what I always say, noticed the pepsi cans for once, you know what I mean, Like when you walk into a room like and you're being given some entertainment, like how many fucking pepsi cans there are? Like I like to just sort of notice that, so I know when I'm being marketed to. And there was the whole sort of like you know, Chase Bank Pride float a thing going on when it felt like she was doing this

like queer support thing. But at the end of the day, it's like all we ever wanted this girl to do was stand up and take a stand for what was right, and she finally did, and we have something snarky to say about it again, like and then I did. I did, So I did sort of get um. I thought that she tackled it really responsibly and as well as she could have. In the Miss Americana documentary where she sort

of explained what she was up against. I thought the comparison to the Dixie Chicks or now the Chicks was really apt, like the way it completely changed their um, their experience in the music industry and therefore changed their fans experience with them, you know, it's incredibly difficult. And so I think that was an interesting time for her, the lover era, which I don't even know. It feels like it was pretty glossed over, like in the grand scheme of the way Taylors things. Um, but that was

that was a weird time. That was a rocky time for the fans and and Taylor, especially queer friends and Taylor. Yeah, that's really interesting. I love to hear the perspective because it did feel like, what what is this anthem? Like the end, and I really was bothered, not bothered, but I thought she should have done um hate never made anybody less gay, not shade. Shade felt like kind of like minimizing what it is that people are doing. So that choice, I was like, that could have been harder.

That was the only note that I had as someone not uh like that didn't identify as queer at the time, and in my someday don't don't currently well up for you. So watch this Definitely they're oh, they're they're definitely mixed up. And I there are times I'm just I think I want to kiss her, Like there's she's just so like,

so there is that vibe for me. But the um, the the whole lover, what was it going to say about the oh, the fact that she is someone who you did say is calculated, Like she wants everyone to like her. I mean that's what Mr mcconnor was about, Like she has that drive to get everyone. She wants to make her fans happy. She cares so much about

her fans, she really does. So for her to be able to take that chance of alienating whoever might not like her stance on you know things like actually, yeah, they to do that was I don't know if I would have thought Taylor was capable of making that kind of um decision where you cut off, like if you'd say, you know, when she spoke out about Trump, I was just like, finally, but that's not easy to do it at all. And he was like I used to be a fan. I like her fifty less. I'm like, you

stop listening tails her. It made me mad that he would ever hear a song. It was like, dude, shut up. But ever, because the thing too is like and we talk about how you know she can't turn on the TV without her, they're potentially being a joke about her, like she knew that he would say something when she said when she said something, you know what I mean, It's like, this is the kind of president who like he would love nothing more than to get into it

with Taylor Swift. But I feel she she genuinely thought she got to the end of the line of being able to be like complacent about these issues, like because you like, ultimately there was a right and wrong there and she she knows that, and she came out and said that finally, but again she knew the risk she ran by doing something, which is he's gonna fight with dad that doctor. I'm going to do it Dad, And they're like so they're just the money they see like

flying out of their pockets like that. That was It's a lot of money at stake and people aren't willing to take that risk. I do love though, that what you said about how we don't need her to be dating around and holding hands with a new guy, and like I'm happy with her like off in a cabin with Joe on like these hikes, these like private hikes. I like that. I don't know anything about the relationship. I only have a little bit of footage to analyze I don't need that from her. It's not part of

it for me, which I do over and over. But I love the Yeah, I'm just like happy that she's happy. I want them to last, I want them to work out. And the fact that she's able to write songs like heartbreak songs just as well, like which is what she said in the Tiny Desk concert about Death by a Thousand Cuts, like I'm happy, so can I still write breakup songs? And so she just reads a book about a breakup and and she's so she soaks up so much feeling that she can just put that into a song.

And the fucking Betty august uh Cardigan trilogy, like that whole story, Like who knew a year ago that she was capable of I mean, I knew she would be, but I didn't even know I wanted that from her. I was kind of mad when I heard it was like characters and not her. And then they're my it's my favorite thing she's ever done. Maybe, Yeah, that that trip Tyke of songs. Yeah, because it is because the details just being in the easter eggs and each thing.

I'm like, oh, that that is actually genius. You just like that she was able to make you empathize with each character in it, and no, the victim was always or the person that was you just made you this love triangle seem I don't know, it's just no one was the villain and it was all and they were all so and they all actually are kind of the same song. It's just she's she's masterful, masterful. And so I feel that now we've got a very good sense

of the culture you're currently consuming. It has made you the person you are today. But we have to ask the question, which is the central cornerstone question of lost cultures, which is Nikki Glazer, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? I E what this means is what was the pop culture that entered your life? And you're like, you can pinpoint now looking back, that was the moment I changed, and I can see myself now as the person I am. That's where my that's

where I came from. It was There's so many things in my head right now, but I have to go with my initial Okay, friends was mine. When I found friends, I was like, when I heard Tanner say how many cameras were on you? Like that kind of joke of like the camera at Bells, how many cameras were on you. I were just that joke is like that is so funny, and then Jennifer Aniston just like I, whatever that is, I'm gonna be it, like I want that, and then

like going after it forever. But in terms of like comedy wise, like feeling like, oh my god, this is for me and no, it's I've never that's when I became friends. When I being obsessed with being like being famous, like being on TV, but comedy wise, like Conan was the first time I go, what the fuck like that is? This is special and weird in a way that I didn't I didn't know anyone else wanted to laugh at stuff like this, and it just felt it felt I

was obsessed. I was, like in high school's obsessed with Dave Matthews and Conan O'Brien. So that was the major one for me. It was the ten It was a five year Anniverse three special of Conan that my dad showed me on like you know, VHS and he recorded it was like, Nick, I think you'll like this, and I was like, and my friends and I became just obsessed with that and just the weird, just the weirdness

of it. It was like, you know, it was like Tim and Eric before Tim like that kind of like looking avant garde comedy and like and like you've been and like you have this friendship with him now and like what like what like that's probably surreal, like and has it and and that and like does that make the influence even like stronger for you? Because yeah, I think so, Like, uh, it's hard because I it's hard being friends with someone you like that much, or like

I can't even say I'm friends with him. He would probably were. We've done enough podcasting and like been on the show enough that we have a rapport. But I always black out when I'm talking to him, like I would imagine function, Like I really can't keep it cool. And I always have to just tell him what he means to me because he's just so self deprecating, Like I need him to know that he's the funniest person in the world and I've awarded him that and there's

no debate and it's the he is it. And uh so I just spent a lot of at the time, just like you know, just telling how much I love him. And it's like we can't really get much done sometimes, so some I feel annoying him. Sometimes I I don't even I don't want to know. My heroes don't. I can't handle. Sometimes it's better to not and and I'm not not because they like I'll just say so. The person that this was for me growing up was Margaret Show. And so when we we early on in doing this podcast,

got the opportunity to go interview Margaret Show. And we went up from from from New York to Nayak where she was doing a show, and we went in our hotel room and we were interviewing her, and it's you could tell it's early for us because we're so nervous. And I'm telling you, I was. She saved my life when I was like when I was in middle school. So but when I'll tell you I was, I was pacing, I was like rearranging the chairs. I was like we have I was. I couldn't believe it. I was just

Margaret Show just means so much to me. And so we got there and the interview was going okay, and there were because we were young, and I don't think we could really relate to her yet. And so I not that we ever could, but like I could tell listening back, I only ever listened to it once. It's kind of like that tell herself comment for you, it's like, okay, I know we corresponded, and then I'm moving on. But there was a point in the interview where I told her what she meant to me and she kind of

was like, oh, thanks, that's nice. And then I remember being like I remember I had the impetus to be like, no, but do people tell you that, like do you hear that? Is that something that you know that you you're hearing? Your voice and your comedy made people feel seen to a point where like it really mattered, And she was like,

and I get with her. Boyfriend Rocco was there at the time to doing the interview as well, and he was looking at her like I could tell he was telling her like absorb this, absorb this, like it's okay to absorb this, and she was just like, it's really nice that you say. Then we kind of moved on.

But it's interesting that you say that, because I had that too, Like when someone is you know, you could tell trained to be a little self deprecating or just be like no, I'm actually not ship, whatever, move on. It's like, no, you are you are, you are? You are you are and if I can, like, I'm not wrong, right, I know, and I want you to know like I am.

It is not up for debate, like you are, please know this, And you try to and it's almost like because you're talking to yourself, because you know that feeling of someone you Guys have have met people that just are so excited to meet you. They're shaking, crying, like you mean so much, you know, and and it's hard. It's hard to take that in because you're like, I'm

just a person. I just took a ship, like I know that, like you know, like I just you just feel like you're but but it's it's just hard to hear compliments and not go like like you just want to push away. So I understand that, but I also want so desperately for for him to under to know it because they deserve to, and because we're not wrong. We're we're so small that we like them and they need to know that we're like not just any any fan.

We are we like know our ship, yeah, and we like But I think Conan is the type of person to like accept that better than better than others, right, Like I don't know, I don't know. I feel like that's very nice. That's really you know, it's it's he wants to move on. He's very coomfortable with compliments. And that's why I feel bad because I can't help it and I make him uncomfortable, like he doesn't like it.

Why do I continue doing this? But it's it's it's essentially because like I always all right, this is crazy.

I'll be vulnerable about I'll be vulnerable about this. Like if I ever have a situation where I'm on Kelly Clarkson's talk show, they shouldn't let me on because I'll sit down and it will be a thing of like I'll hyperventilate, like it will go viral, because it's like crazed faggot makes himself like like full spectacle on Kelly Clarkson show, Like it will be bad for whatever I'm promoting, like it like it won't be good because like I associate with her, her with the time I needed her

so badly, and I my love for her has never went to the point where it's like I don't see a world where I could be normal talking to her, so to have that person and to have a relationship with that person is like it's crazy. Yeah, I as you're talking, I'm thinking of meeting Taylor Swift and it's just it wouldn't go. It wouldn't. I've met her before before I was obsessed, and right now it just wouldn't. I thought Dave Matthews once and it didn't go well.

I it was that Matt I just like really embarrassed myself. And and this was a couple of years ago when I really had enough accomplishments to be like I deserved to meet you, you know, like this was my goal was to get it. I even said that to him. I'm like, you're the reason I even do comedy because I wanted to like get into your sphere so I could meet you. And I used the words spear like really like bother it. It was such a weird, like it was the there was a whole other thing that

happened before that. But I was really embarrassing. I wasn't cool. I don't want to meet him a gun like it's it's not it's not a good look. It doesn't it's not worth it, Like I I can't I can't be myself I will never be myself in front of those people. But you gotta get a COLICARC said, I mean, I feel like we clipped this and send this. I'm gonna send this to a producer there because you like the thing is like she would make you feel comfortable. She

would make you feel comfortable. I mean, bowen, you'll be, You'll be just like I was like a gay kid closet, a kid in like sixth grade when she was on American Idol, and I just remember I was just so when America fell in love with her for being herself that I kind of said to myself, I was like, well, maybe one day people will like me for being myself. And I really was. It was. It was like it was just hard. It was like a time where I was realizing I was something that um no one aspired

to be. It was like very much that time of like gay was the worst thing you could say. It's someone I'm from Long Island. It's for a toxic and so just to see someone be so obviously themselves and like be beloved because they were a good person and talented. I was just like, well, at least I know it's possible that like someone could fall in love with you

just because you're you. And I think just throughout my life, like, um, I've always listened to her music to come from me, and I also do think she reminds me of a younger version of my mother, to be honest with you, um, in terms of her energy and the way she looks. Um, So there's something there. But but yeah, I mean like it's just it's that, that's what it is. And we actually like I went to her show. I've seen her live eleven times Bowen and I went to the View

one time because she was on it. That's the whole thing. When Joel Kim Booster was on Kelly Clarkson, he's one of my best friends. Like I went in the audience and like I was taking pictures of him. I put a picture of Joe, Kim, Kelly and Jennifer Hudson on my grid because it was one of the best days of my life. Like I went, I went back to say hi to him after. I couldn't have run out faster because I thought he was trying to like punk me and have her come in. I was like, gotta go.

It was like really don't want it. Yeah know, well I know Bowen's gonna be on it like any day soon, and I'm just gonna be able to watch. So yeah, but one's gonna do Kelly Clarkson any day a day. But wait, wait, what were you on that you got to go? That you put on your grid? What was that? So it was when Joel Kim was on Kelly Clarkson

to the Sunny Side? I went as his guest in the audience, and I was no, I did get to go backstage, and I said, and I thought he was trying to like pull one on me, And I think he might have been, because I'm telling you, I went back there, hugged him, said you were so good, babe. I'm out, and so I'm I like, I could not have ran out faster because I was like it would have been so like him. No, I do want to

meet her. I just said, like, not not backstage at her show because my friend is on the show, you know what I mean, Like it has to be like a thing, like where where I have I'm meeting her with intention at this point because I have to get my thoughts together, like it can't be a surprise, it's Kelly thing, because it won't be cute you know what I mean, I completely agree, and I did. That's what

happened with Dave Matthews. I had a chance to meet him, and I took it, and I wish I wouldn't have, just because it wasn't the circumstance under which I was able to express how much he meant to me. I went to a listening I was invited to, like a listening session where you sit in a room at Serious X, because I was I had a radio show there that you were both on, right, Yeah, yeah, and matt you came in separately another. Yeah that's right. Okay, So love love,

Sorry to night. Uh she's so great. Um So I got asked to do like go to a listening party where literally Dave matth Is just sits in a room with like ten people from Serious that somehow fago to ticket to this room and he presses play on a thing like you just listen to it with him, Like he's not playing it, You're just like listening to it.

So it's like you're in a it's awkward and it's a new album and you just like sit there and like like pop your head in this kind of cold conference room with and you know, Baba Booie from Howard Stern was there and it was I was excited to be there, but like and I'm looking at Dave Matthews like leg like like his his denimed knee, just being like that's me, like I thought about that, Like it's just like I'm putting. I am like trying to be on my best behavior even though like he doesn't I

haven't met him yet. I think it took a picture. I think I took a picture of him and it was quick and I didn't have time to like say the whole thing. So it's just like my face is disgusting. It's like unpostable, even though the best moment of my life because I couldn't keep my face together. And then I'm in this listening session and I'm keeping my enterty like I am really holding it together but not well.

It's like just like almost boiling out of me. But I'm just trying to be very cool and like not blackout. And then he gets so part where it's like wrapping up and he's like he's like, Okay, we only have time for one more song, Like you guys want to hear something soft and sweet or do you want to hear something a little funky, and I was like, finally answers the question. I'm like fucking like I like my

voice said it's so loud that everyone jumped. And then he played something soft and sweet and I swearing he ignored it and like, and it was right in front of it was like four ft away, so I was like I thought, was so close to him, and everyone be literally Baba Buie from Howard started like Gary Talbot slowly put his hand on my shoulder, like you need to get it together, like this is embarrassing. Like that was weird for everyone. And I'm not someone who ever

wants to make anyone. I don't want to be like I don't want you to notice me unless I'm making you like happy, and so for to be like the object of like oh, it was so huge in front of the person I love the most and it was all just like it just I thought I thought he was gonna be like this girl's cool and she like like, what's your deal? Funcky like and then he's like then he plays a song he wrote about like mass shootings. I mean it was not, it was not You're gonna

have it. You're gonna have a redemptive interaction with him. I think you will. I'm the voice of d MB Radio on Serious XM, so when you listen to Channel Stars about you. He I'm sure he's aware I am in the sphere, as I let him know after after I said Sunky, That's when I like went after him, waited for him outside the room and was like, hey,

I'm a comedian. I'm really sorry about Like I was just like I just have to say a bunch of things that how much you mean to me spe spears fear, and he was just like okay, and like backed away, very scared, Like I saw like actual fear. And he's like like this girl is unhinged in his eyes and and I'm not. I just couldn't control it, And it

wasn't the right time. That would have been funny on camera with like a big like to do, like like if you went on the Kelly Clarkson Show, Matt and and had that moment, had that around it, it would be appropriate. But this was just so uncomfortable. It's funny that you mentioned serious because they got at when Serious like finally did when Kelly finally did Howard Stern like I did the after show. So I was like there in the building like like like going on the floor

on the aftershow right after she was leaving Howard. And I'm telling you, like I had the opportunity because she was coming out and I'm sitting there in like the lobby in New York and like I was about to go in, Um tear started coming to my eyes and I couldn't come over. I was just like I was like I can't because I had to go be on

the show. So I was like, I'm not gonna walk in there the first time I made fucking you know all these guys like that I've listened to forever, like because I love Howard, Like I'm not going to go in there and be like crying, Oh my god. Like I was like I have to be good and have it together for the Kelly episode of the show and like not be a flop. But I'm telling you, like I've had so many chances to like kind of go up there and be like I just wanted to tell

you I'm such a big fan. You mean so much to me, and I'm just like, I literally I start to lose that every time. So I when do you have who's this he's cool. He's cool as a cucumber though, But no, not really, not really. I mean it happened when Tina, and that's kind of like a really that's that's kind of like it's such a it's such a complicated thing, but it was. It happened with Tina and UM.

And at one point when I was shooting Girls five Evan in January, like Matt work Grow, our friend who wrote on this episode that UM I did, was like, by the way, Tina is gonna come. Tina and Jeff are coming into the studio. They want to say hi, and I was like, okay, cool, and then I just spun out in my room for like twenty minutes, and then they finally invite me to set and I'm like, okay, I guess I'm gonna run into around the floor. That's maybe even better so that like she just sees me

like in in my element or whatever. And then she just laughed and she just left, and I feel like, but then before that, it was when I did the Commischmidt movie and she came over and she just like checked and I completely blacked out and it was the most meaningless interaction to her um probably ever. But then she mentioned me in an interview recently when she talked about the iceberg. I think, I think that's why you

get asked to be on her. But I think I have to like keep this distance that I have not created. But that's just been like very like, uh, just just through happenstance has been like that's been what's calibrated. And I'm like, I can't actually get that much closer to you on a personal level because otherwise it will stress me out. You know, yes it won't and you won't remember it like you'll just it won't go well, So

you have to keep away. But but she to hear your name come out of her mouth, isn't that wild? And such? Like it's so weird. I don't even know that. I don't I don't even know that it's exciting to me. It's mostly just bizarre, and I'm like, whoa. And it means that she's like watching, you know, It's like it's all all this other stuff comes in and I'm like, god, damn, damn, damn,

this is actually really fucking bizarre. But then, but but my cone in thing is my freshman year after high school, we became New York City to look at colleges with my sister for my sister. And then the one fun thing we did in New York was to take the thirty Rock Studio tour. And it was the summer, so we knew SNL was out, was out. But then I asked, I was like, as Conan doing a show this week? They go no, the pages go no. But we still went to this and I was actually more excited to

be on the sixth floor wherever Conan Studio was. Then I was to go to eight age because it was just like Conan there and you saw like like Max Weinberg's drum want like drums like like and I was just like I something about Conan, like staying up past Leno, like suffering through Leno in order to watch Conan was like such an important ritual for me as a kid, and like it did like inform my whole sensibility, I think absolutely, because it was weird ship It was so

weird and funny. Oh my god, it took you. It made it okay to just take some real swings, you know. And they had mrs early on, but nothing, nothing ever missed for me because I was just a kid, and like it was just just to take those ships, to have a masturbating bear, to have all those like silly things that like maybe now wouldn't hold up as much like back then, I was like, what the fund is happening? Was?

So I loved I love hearing about like, You're right, it's like watching Conan and is why who I am? And that's why I told them the first time I met, and I go, You're why I do this? Like you made this? And he was just it was because it's true.

But to Matt, to hear you say that, Kelly Clarkson like helped you feel like process that and like feel like maybe there was a chance, like when I see when I watched the Billie Eilish documentary and I see girls like being like I'd be dead without you, Billy, Like I always go, yeah, really you'd be, And I actually feel i've I've I never related it to that as like a young girl, so I think that that's why I look at that and I go, what is

that young girl saying? I would have? But as a as an adult woman, like I do feel that way about Taylor Swift, like I would have a lot of heart of her of a time accepting myself and like getting to the who I am now with my self esteem and like what I want and how I want to like, uh, how I want to feel and what's okay to feel because of her, Like I really would be a different person without her, And I'm proud to be a someone that is that impacted by people I

don't know by art. I like, it's not I don't. I am not ashamed of being a just like a stay on it. It makes me feel fourteen again, like caring about the loving being a fan that hard and being obsessive, which is like something that I've always been in my life. Like I like that it doesn't go away as as an adult because it makes me feel young, Like it's the way to keep in touch with the

inner child, and that is important. And so many times, uh that comes under attack, you know, especially like in an ugly world, you know what I mean, Like in a world that's like dark, and I I that's something that I mean, I mean, I think that's one reason why we still love doing the podcast so much, because this podcast can be a celebration of like loving what we love um And so that's why I like to have conversations like I know that Bowen and I like

love to have conversations like the one we just had because it's a it's a place to come here and not feel like you have to be like, well, my guilty pleasure is No, it's like there's no that's that's never the frame never, and it's just it's that's there's not a lot of space spaces for that. And that's when I do look for other swift Ease. And I wear a lot of Swift merchandise, not because in t shirts, not because I'm like I want to promote her, but

because I like want to find other swift Ease. It's like I'm peacocking for friends because I'm like, I want more people in my life like I would really when I look for like a boyfriend, I'm like, I really need you to like Swift, Like I don't want you to just tolerate it. I will play that song to to make you get through your feelings tolerated Taylor Swift, and maybe you'll start to like her because she'll help you with process those feelings that you're feeling when you

let me listen to Cruel Summer on repeat. But I mean we never got our Cruel summer video, and I'm still waiting. We never did. I will say I hadn't. I had an X that I have one X that's a full Swift E and like way even beyond the me or maybe even anyone here, which is crazy. And then another X and another X who didn't lie her because he thought that her he didn't he didn't connect to lyrics he likes. He like the melodies weren't interesting enough,

and he quote unquote didn't connect to lyrics. And I was like, I think this might be a deal breaker for us. I was like, I don't understand that ideology. Yeah, if you actively don't like Taylor Swift, it would never work with us. Also in that category, Veep. Veep is another show that if you can't if you don't like Veep, if you haven't, and I understand if you haven't seen it, but if you watch it and you're not into it,

it's no, I wouldn't. I'd be more I'd be more likely to date a guy that like wanted kids and I don't want kids, then I wouldn't. I think that's a first state conversation, Like I really do have it on. I used to put on a dating profile of like just if you it just cuts the it cuts the

people out of my life I don't want. And that's the thing that like TV and music, Taylor Swift is such a personal thing that it's okay if you don't like her, but if you if you're like bothered and like Nicky's doing singing again because my roommate Andrew, he he's told people like like on our podcast, you all think that Nikki is like a fan of Taylor Swift shocks, but you have no idea what it's like to live

with someone like that. This is all she and that's part of that is like I'm trying to learn her songs and guitar, so I'm playing them over and over all the time. But um, yeah, she's a major part of my life. She's she's, she's she's folded into every aspect of it. Yes, same here for us, it is time for I don't think so, honey. So this Nikki is the sort of finale of the show where we take sixty seconds to sort of, you know, really come for something in pop culture that we're not as happy

with as say Taylor Swift. In fact, we we we were so unhappy that we say I don't think so, honey. Name of thing um, I do have one bowen and it is it is interesting. It's in the world of music as well, pop music even. Okay, alright, this is huge. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many. As time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Whatever bullshit is going on that keeps Little Mixed from happening in America? Because is shunning out Bob's Bob after Bob, and I

don't know what this dark magic is. I don't know whatever it's going on behind the scenes that keep them from hopping off in America, black magic even because let me tell you something, Confetti featuring Sweedie, Oh my god, the girls have never been stronger. And let me tell you something also, I don't think so, honey. Any Jesse haters, especially when you call yourself a little bit if you're a Little Mixed fan, you support Jesse and you want

this for Jesse, and you understand why Jesse. It's fine that she goes and makes new music and had nothing to do with that her leaving the group. That's a sidebar. I don't think so honey. Whatever is going on shout out to my ex should have been a huge hit. Holiday should have been a huge hit. Sweet Melody. I don't understand why it's not number one in America. What is going on? Is the payola scheme? You have to

ask this question. I don't think so, honey. Whoever is handling them maybe the new new people to Hell in America because they are bob on Bobs on bobs. They've never been stronger as a trio. Listened to acoustic version of Confetti now, I don't think so, honey, And that's one minute wow. I mean they are they have never they've never been better, and that they I will say, everyone is healthier as a result of the recent change

with Jesse leaving. We support Jesse, but I am a little mixed Stan I'm a mixer, and I have to say I want them bigger than they are in America. I want to hear them on the radio. There's some value though, and and and and just like a group being niche in away like Kylie Mineo gave up on being like big in America like decades ago, and I

think she's been fine. And the US Americans who do love Kylie just make it it feels like it's our Little our little not secret, but it's like, oh, she's for us, and she's she's not for the rep for like the general pop of the U s. I. You know, I think what bothers me is what they want. It they wanted, I know, but at some point they might not want it. If it's if it does if it doesn't work out. Little Mixed Black Magic is such a bop. It is so good. It's about eating pussy. It's so good.

Do you feel this one? It is? It is about eating pussy. It's about it's about like I have like eat my pussy like it's it's get on your get on the floor to it's it's all about go down on me. For me, it was like, yes, yes, go down on Well, now we're sort of I feel like we're in a revolution of you know, women being like no, go down on me like it's it's I mean like in the past ten years, I feel like we've now gotten like Nicki Minaj single headedly isn't has now changed

at all. I mean now fucking getting your ass eight is is like normal gener not really, it's that is just that's part of the court. That's first base. It's huge, truly it's first Base as eating his first base. Real Culture Number thirty three is first Base. Now Bow and Yang, we have your I don't think so, honey. Are you ready to go? I'm ready. This is bo I don't think Sonny his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. We're rebooting Dan Brown book adaptations. There are so many

things wrong with this. First of all, how are you gonna replace Tom Hanks in anything right? Tom Hanks? Second of all, it's like rebooting this series that no one actually really cares about. It just makes no sense to me, right, Like, there's no there's no like sentimental capital thing to like grow from that, and it hasn't even been that long since the last one. I have no real comedic take

on this. It's just like it feels like rebooting. Like let's say, I don't know, I don't I can't come up with an example that doesn't shut on the actual example for being canceled, you know what I mean, or for being like something that nobody cares about it. But it's like it's like rebooting um Mr and Mrs Smith.

We we know what it's just No, people love Mr and Mrs Smith though, but rebooting like it's like it's like rebooting like Grounded for Life, like a solid sitcom that a solid sitcom that not enough people can heard about. It's like I loved Grounded for Life. By the way, that's one. Do do we remember Grounded for Life? Yeah? That guy. It was a great guy. I thought it was really funny. I didn't know they were doing this. It's like sexy Robert Langdon. It's like they're doing like

the da Vinci code stuff. They're not doing the DaVinci Code, but they're they're doing like the newer books or the prequels and anyway. I just I just read about this in Multuring and it made me mad. Okay, that's my little niche thing. NICKI, do you have something that you'd like to tell? Yeah? I think I do. I think I can fill for six seconds. I just came up with one and um, okay, yeah, I think I got one. Okay, this is Nicky Glazers. I don't think so honey, her

time starts now. Okay, I don't think so honey. Um banking on Olivia Munn and general anything together like actually investing in this relationship, Like, oh, I'm so glad they're together. I think it is. I don't. I don't know if anything, that I'm actually friends with John. I actually I don't think so honey of like commenting on this at all. I feel like we should just let it do, do what it's gonna do, and not not even speculate, just

run its course. But you know, it's like it's all anyone I know wants to talk about, and I want to. I don't think. I don't think so want I don't want to like get into it. I just started to go away. It reminds Davidson and Ariana Grande, which I did love that like love bombing that happened, and I wanted that so bad. But I just I'm speculative of the circumstances. I want to know so much, but I don't think none of my business. I'm out and that we will respect. Yes, I have nothing else to say

because I have there's nothing I want to say. It's not he's someone I know, and I don't want to gossip about. I don't want talk about. I don't want to comment on it. We let's just let go. It's gonna it's but it's it can't last. You're you're saying you're saying, with with with the with with the initial I don't think so, honey, you're saying, and I don't. You don't have to elaborate on this. I just want to. I just want to help you sort of summarize this.

You're saying, I don't think so many banking on this relationship because it's like the fact that we are invested as like a culture in this relationship is not that we're projecting everything about j Lo and Ben onto Millennium. Olivia may transferred that because we have given up on we have given up on a benefit because it seems like they hung out, maybe got on a plane together, but there hasn't been much less and now we want this. We're like, this is exciting and it's it's let's just

let's just leave it alone. Let's just let's just I I we we can respect that. I mean, I'm sure the three of us individually have our thoughts on this that we can share off. Absolutely. I'm like, we can get a LEVI like, like, I've always loved a Jenny Slate. Chris Evan's like, I love any comedian really dating a very very hot person. Yeah, chuckles and chuckle fuckers can be so hot. It's actually real culture seven chuckle hot.

So whenever whenever anyone is talking to me and I genuinely feel like they're out of my league, I'm always like what and then I remember, chuckle fuckers can be this hot, But they always want to start a podcast with me. They don't want to. They don't want to. They always want to like have me on their or like start talking about like they want to know like how to start doing stand up. Like I get that a lot. And then I've been misled a lot by really hot guys and I'm like, you're out of my league.

Like sometimes I match with a guy and Ryan, this is no joke. I match with a guy on Riya who is a pop star sensation like I am a huge pop star and I he's young too. It was a night where I like made my Riya settings like there and so so I so so so I because my set I I'd never go that low. I don't know what like I was one night, I must have been real horning and be like I deserve a young guy. So I matched with this like guy and I'm like oh,

and he messaged me right away. You're the Goat and I'm like, fuck, I thought I had no no. I thought, but he's a fan. He saw my rose clips recently. He's a child writing me you're the Goat. And then he did a go to moji and I go, you know, thank you. And then he's like, will you roast me? And I was like he likes you, and I go no, no, no, guys, he's he's a little fan and they were like that, and so I said him a roast joke about him, and then he was just like, oh my god, funk.

I've never even thought about my last name like that. And I was like, that's all I wrote it. That was the last interaction. So I get that a lot. But you know, on face value, like this pop star that people that that that people like, um telling you that he's a fan, that he admires your work, that's something. It's awesome, it actually does feel like, but the context is shitty because, um, the setting is shifty because god

like Matt's gotten this too. Like the worst is when it's like one multiple guys on Grinder being like this is the summer. They're like, would you mind set reading my packet for SNL insane? And I was just like you got to actually go to prison on the moon or something, because how dare you need to go to that jail in the Marvel universe that's in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, that's what you gotta go to,

Harry Potter jail, askabam that? Like where? And I used to have a joke about It's like, I don't want you to respect me comedically. I don't want any guy to be like, I'm such a fan. I want you to disrespect me sexually like I want you to like I want to. I'm it's a different energy. I am like a guy that's a fan of mine. I don't think I'm ever. I want my obviously my partner to appreciate what I do and know that I'm get at

it and be like, wow, she's impressive. But I don't want that to make them horny, Like I want to make a guy horny by being like I'm like a little I'm like a soft lady and like like I'm just like me nurturing. I don't want them to be like you just owned that, Mike. I'm like, all they should do is get it. They have to get it. They understand it to ye yes. Well, I mean, well you're well on your way because I'm very happy to say we are the podcast that introduced Nicki Glazer to pappers.

Oh my god, I want an honor is huge. We're gonna send you our merch, which is we're gonna give you a Taylor Swift sweatshirt. Um, so you have stuff coming in the mail. Um and everyone out there, you gotta listen to the Nicki Glazer podcast. It sounded almost every damn day and one night with Nicky Glazer. She's on tour. Um. You can get some tickets to that. And also, you know what if you haven't watched watched bang In, one of the one of my favorite specials

on that place. We have been fans for many many years, and it's like, I'm just so like it. It's truly. It's like when Charlie Pooth deemed me like cool, that is really cool that that people that someone that talented likes me. It means a lot. Oh my god. Well, you know, and Nikki feel free to join in with us right now. But you know, we end every episode with the song, and I feel like it's got to

be tast words. So like, what do you need from me you can't kill me Chicken name to listen to the rest of that listen to a reputation the album by Taylor Swift, Bye Bye,