"Family Style" (w/ Will Ferrell)

number sixties six. Business first. So the whole move to my heart was sort of package to us, and we were lured even the order, Lord, would you have the unlot to the you, Matt, I would say, lured, Lord, We were lured. And actually that's the way Lord the singer pronounces her name now breaking as I'm getting that in my ear. She wants to be known as Ludlord.

She's an artist's thing. Oh and it's so funny how home louds in just that sort of dip thong valel sound kind of relates to what our guests is promoting right now anyway, right exactly, it really does, And and that's part of the cultural crossover. Yes, And when I say that, I take both my arms and I sort of fold them over each other to sort of physicalize

them out. And this was the business that needed to come first, by the way, for everyone, right, right, right, So we're just saying that the whole the move to my Heart was predicated on this lure that um our guests. Let's just say there was a proverbial fishing hook because the oh, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not familiar with fishing. Um the line was cast. The line was cast, and we being the fish, and we to varying degrees, we both are fish because we are water signs astrologically, that's

right now, we bait the hook hook. Our guest was starting a new podcast network with I Heart Radio. It's called Big Money. Players were so happy, excited, honored to be a part of the network work. Oh, we're thrilled. And I have to say this was sort of this was because you know that on this podcast we talked about the culture that made us say culture was for us. And it's actually interesting to have a guest that was a part of the culture that I think for both

of us made us say culture was for us. Let's just start off by saying you and I were both high school intercommon announcers. My sign off lines, my sign off lines treated off between have a good day in a pleasant tomorrow, which is a weekend update, which is ripped from Tina Fey, and it's theF well Chevy Chase and it's def what you've done well. They they send Jane Curtin, they said it in the in the first did they? That wasn't it? Okay? Now I'm the one

being a brought it back. But then my my other sign off line, which was my sisters sign off line when she did it was you stay classy Smoky Hill and that's ripped. And that's ripped, and that's ripped from our guests. Now, now what's your How is it formative for you? You go go, well, let's just say that.

Um well, I'd actually rather tell this to the guests. Okay, So so I I'd rather just first let me say so before this, but and I recorded a video trailer for this podcast, thought Cultures, and I decided for that video trailer to wear quote unquote a fun shirt. And then I I was sort of volleying back and forth with Bowen like, do I change out of my fun shirt for the guests? And I realized I was nervous and anticipated in the guest to that point where I

didn't know what shirt to wear. It like it was a damn date or something. Because I want to represent myself well, conservative but attractive, appealing, jumps off the screen, but not obnoxious. These are the things we navigate. Oh my goodness, And you had to tone yourself. You to dial yourself back and code switching that I'm doing, you know. But the thing about our guest is he I mean, and and now you know, now it's sort of you've sort of proved this out for yourself once you see him,

once you talk to him. It's a way. It all amounts a way. He's not this. You know, a list, he's not fast and a list now, yeah, he's not fast and any list. You know, he's not down at what's the cult the chateau, you know, sort of like with his eyes down, like don't look at him like he's very sort of you know, he's an approachable guy. And I feel that he's wearing the appropriate hat for the moment. Yes, we'll talk about that. Let's just quickly go through the credits. What are his credits? Where we

we know him from? Well, he was a cast member on sn L for seven seasons. He Um co founded beloved comedy outlet Funny or Die, has produced so many wonderful works. He is founding Big Money Players Network, which we're so happy to be a part of. And he's promoting his new film Your a Vision Song Contest the story of Fire Saga, which we have seen, which we have seen. We'd love it. It's so funny, is a

goof aloof fest. We love it. And it's based on of course your Vision, which is amongst the gayer things to happen in history. So we're very excited that there is a film depicting the moment that is journal vision. Yes, and so we're so excited to have the moment that is our guest, welcome to your ears well fair, yes, yes, Well tell everyone what you're wearing. What the hat you're wearing?

It that I am wearing a what appears to be a Maga hat, the same font, uh, same red hat with the white letters, but it says make America gay again, and thank you. We need to make America gay again again again. We need I I love that you know, walking down the street could be a trumper and he could look into your eyes and think there's one in me, and then upon closer inspection, no, sir, here's the best thing.

I have worn this hat a couple of times, and I would get so many looks from people who were like, wow, he's actually wearing that hat, and then it would be a double take once they saw what it actually said so right, and then it just I got too many of the the first round of looks, which were, uh, please take that hat off, and so I stopped wearing it. So this is fun to get to put it back

on again. Yeah, it's it's sort of um, it's a trick of the eye because upon first glance, I mean I actually saw Bowen before he had to go all the way up close to his computer to say that he can't possibly be wearing and make America great again hat. And then I saw the look of sheer delight in his eyes once he realized the the the the humor. I was incredulous at first, and I saw what the wording was and then I and then I sighed, you were sort of internally this Will Ferrell where, oh do

I know him? I don't think I do. And wait, okay, I do. I do know him? Yea, I know this guy. So I have to tell you, um, the one of this is very exciting to have you on because not not only just because you are you Will Ferrell and icon to us, a hero to us comedically, but also you kind of did enter my personal life in a time I really needed help because it was ninth grade. I think I was in I needed help bad. So it was like ninth grade. I was like a gay teen, young,

gay closeted teen. And then I remember I wasn't fitting in with like everyone in school and Anchorman came out, and I remember going into school and everyone was quoting Anchorman. It kind of became one of those movies wherever everyone universally was loving it, and it actually did make me fit in and make friends. The fact that I had like a knowledge of that movie, Oh, that you could kind of throw down some Anchorman specific quotes. Yeah, it was kind of just like because that was that was

very much like a thing. I think it's like, oh, we can all quote the same movies, we all have the same cultural language. But that that entered my life at a time when I was like, yeah, I needed that.

That's nice to hear, because that's that's not exactly what was happening in the theater's initial because we were getting stories from friends and family who were who I literally had one of my best friends in college go to see it opening weekend with his wife and another couple, and the other couple just halfway through just were like, We're out of here. We don't get this movie. I'm

so sorry. Yeah, just um. I remember Adam telling a story of a friend of his calling calling him up, saying he had gone to the to the theater ahead of time. He was he was watching something else, He's not, I'll watch the last ten minutes of Anchor Man. He poked his head into uh and he watched. He literally as during the end credits, he heard like a verbal altercation between people in the theater. One person was like, well, Farrell, I want my money back, and someone else was like,

shut up. That move was funny, and so it really was. You know, when it first kind of came out, people were like either absolutely loved it or or or just thought I do not know what to make of this, which is kind of a good place to be. It sounds like a cop out to say this, but I feel like that's how you know you've done something correctly. It's interesting you say that, though, because I actually went. I remember, okay, this is the story of how I

saw Anchor Man. My family and my cousins were all going to Coney Not Coney Island, We're going to a dorney park. So we were we lived in Long Island, and we were all driving up to go to Dorney Park, and we were so excited. I'm like, always, thank god, you were not going to Coney No, no, we park. It was a dorney park trip and those are those

are singular. So we were on our way to Dorney Park and it was I couldn't have been more excited because I was like, I'm I still am to this day like a theme park person, and when this becomes a therapy session in five minutes, will unpack it. Um. But I was so excited, and so we're all my cousins to do roller coasters and like do the whole thing. It downpoured the most in Pennsylvania history. It rained them.

I remember, like the the news was like, well, not only is everything closed today, but it's raining more than it ever has ever like kids days of ruined, especially if you're going to Dorney Park and san um But anyway, so we were devastated. It wasn't even like, oh, let's still go to the theme park. The lines will be short now. So me and all my family, including my little cousins, went to the movie theater and there was Anchorman playing, and so he thought, what the heck we're

watching it? And me and my cousin, who were like like thirteen fourteen, were dying laughing htorical because we we didn't know really what it was gonna be. And then it turned out to be truly so fucking funny. But my mother did have to take my little cousin and my sister out. They did leave because my mother was like, I can't be talking whales vagina to my young daughter,

like what is this? And just like it was so it was so jarring, And I think that's part of why I loved Yeah, because I did not know what it was going to be, which maybe speaks to what you're saying, it's funny because we are having come from SNL where you're obviously given uh some leeway as to what you can kind of you know, present to the table. But for the most part, there are a lot of

that that shows governed by a lot of rules. And I think it was our expression of like, we're just why does it have to follow this way at this time? We just we're like, let's break every comedy rule we can think of and and just have this be this reckless, kind of joyous experience and kind of come back to the ensemble comedy that you know, I kind of grew up loving and and we just had as much fun making that movie as we could, partly because I think there was a real feeling of like they may just

shut us down. This may be the last time we get to do this, so let's uh, let's just go out with a bang. You you thought that that early on that and you're in your post SNL career that like this the end, well, just because you know, you have to remember, like I think we got we had written the script and it wasn't We just went out with it, and I think we got like ten twelve rejection like that, that movie just kept getting Uh, no one really wanted to buy a a comedy about a

newsroom comedy. Uh, they just couldn't add up, you know, they I don't think they saw how absurd it was going to be, and you know what, you know that cast was gonna kind of bring to it and things like that. So we just when we finally got to make it, we thought, oh, this is like we're playing

with the house's money here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, when you're talking about it's like you have to imagine it wouldn't like pitch super well, you know what I mean, like off the page, it doesn't feel like in the studio would be like, yes, that is something that I think it's we need that like um comedy about seventies Anchorman like sort of navigating sexism right and throwing you know,

purpose littering, you know, things like that. But it really is, like that's one of the reasons I love it so much, is it really is about sort of like toxic masculinity and like like it is like a it's a satire of that taken all the way down the road. But then like in recent years since that movie has come out, you realize, like this, while it is a sort of extreme caricature of that situation, it's actually really not dissimilar to the way that women would be treated spoken to.

I mean it's it's just really it holds up any any sort of news person I've run into, as has said, Oh, we've I know people exactly like Ron Burgundy, which is funny and scary all at the same time. But yeah, I mean it was while it was a silly move. I remember one of the worst reviews we got was actually from the San Diego local paper and they they were like, we're very disappoint waited in this movie. It really really had an opportunity to say something and it

just it just missed the mark. And uh. But you know, conversely, like the Guardian, a lot of the British papers, they totally got what we're doing and they were like, this is this is great satire. I'm wondering what I mean, you and Adam writing it after us and now having that mindset of let's break every rule because we have been so used to like a pretty stringent environment, Like

was that did you guys? Were you guys aware of that as you were both finishing up your ten years there, Because I feel like once you're I don't know, not to make it sound like this, watch it, watch it. What I'm saying like working there, when you work, when you work there you sort of like sort of like abide by all the rules and you have to. And I feel like, did you guys like intentionally bring that with you once you guys left I that mindset? That's

a really good question. I think it was probably probably I think it was still probably more subconscious, but yeah, there was there was a feeling of of being sick of the rules and quotes of common and why can't we punt a dog off a bridge and have it come back to life and save us from grizzly bears? Why? Because if if I pitched that, uh, someone's gonna someone's gonna laugh politely and then leave the room and go

that that's the worst I ever heard. So I think it was probably an extension of both of them, you know, both of of just executing that idea and wanting to do something crazy and then also just uh yeah, wanting wanting to kind of get away from something that has

such a form that it sticks to, right. Yeah. I think that's something that Bowen and I respond to, like and that when we whenever we're together and like we're really laughing at something, we laugh at something because it is so stupid, bid like and that's that's just our funer together. And I think that's what's something I recognized in it, like, um, from a very early age. Like even like if you watch like the sort of outtakes, I prefer to call them bloopers. I think bloopers is

the funniest word in the industry. I want to call them bloopers, and actually, really culture number one hundred, they're not outtakes, their bloopers, they're not They're bloopers, and they can be shortened to bloops. Shortened bloops. Yeah, that's yes, we'll add an addendum onto the rule. But we have

people that that do that. Um. So, like there was a scene where like you're in the car with Christina Applegate, who, by the way, is our queen, and she's so incredible and oh my god, she's so amazing in that movie. But there's a scene where you are doing the Whales Regina san Diego thing to her in the car and you start breaking down laughing and you say, it's just

so stupid. Yeah, this is so stupid. Yeah, And that's that is I think something at gets a little lost nowadays, which I think is sort of uh having a resurgence or I hope it is because I almost feel like or I'm hopeful that that we can return to sort of like really going for the joke, big characters, Like comedy is supposed to be funny, you know what I mean?

Like right right, yeah, that that was just, uh, you know, the realization of of the moment that these stupid lines that we'd written in a room in a in a vacuum we now had there. We were parked on a bluff in the middle of the night with a crew of fifty people having to film this moment and you're getting paid for it, and it's, uh, yeah, it's kind of like, oh, this is you know, if I don't ever get to do another thing again, I'll be good.

Yeah you know yeah, speaking of um, speaking of stupidity, I would say or just like, um, a big budget comedy, which I feel like is as a concept is like waning from Hollywood. Right now. Um, let's talk about your revision song contest the Story of Fire Saga. Do you like that concise title? By the way, I love the title. I love that, but that it's it's for that same reason.

It's like that's why we love Ricky Bobby. That's so funny though, like a title should be titles should be like fucking Fiona Apple album titles, like they go on and on and on. Like the fact that it's such an epic title I think only helps. That matters. So I love it. It communicates something to the audience. You're like, Okay, I know what I'm in for. This is gonna be the entire paragraph. It's so fun. Okay, So I so, but I was talking about about this before we started

recording over text. I was like, oh yeah, like I can't remember. Maybe it's just because I have a million blind spots with this, but I'm like, when was the last like big budget comedy that like I've seen with like international stars and like it's about and like it just very It felt like a nice like comedy Frozen and Amber kind of thing from like early to mid odds where it's like, oh, yes, like I enjoyed this

kind of movie very very much. Um So was that like was that kind of what you and because you and Andrew were going to Andrew Steel, We're going to your vision to like like figure out a story around this or like like like what was the sea crystal behind him? Yeah? I mean the crazy The crazy journey of this is that so I uh, my wife Vivica is Swedish. We've been going to Sweden uh for twenty years every summer. Um. In fact, this summer will be

the first summer we haven't gotten to go. And that first trip we went, we were with her cousin and we were out. They had like a little cabin in the country that we were out picking mushrooms, you know, with rubber boots on, as you would do in Sweden. It's right. And this is a good film. By the way, have you written this down that this is the is a really good this is a good film. There's a

feature in that. Um. So she just uh we had dinner and she's like, oh, shall we sit down and watch Eurovision And we're like, um, yes, of course, and we It happened to be the night of the finale because there's there's two semi final nights for for your listeners, and then there's a final final night and we watched.

We sat there for three hours and watched the It's a whole thing because the last twenty acts or so they do their performance, then they have some special guests and then they tabulated all the votes and each country does this whole series of voting and it builds this tension. But I was sitting there going, what is going on is in um? And it's even gotten over the years

a little more um. You know, everyone pretty much things in English now, and the acts are are kind of you know, they're really trying to get played on the radio, and yet there's still some just amazing moments between the staging, the costumes. And so I was watching this, you know, twenty years ago, going oh, this this has to be a movie, and so that's going to make it and no one ever did. I kept waiting to like, you know, reado.

Someone so finally made a comedy about your vision. And it wasn't until yeah, four or five years ago that I called up Andrew Steele, former SNL writer, and I was like, Andrew, you gotta check this thing I'll called your Vision. I've always wanted to make a movie. I don't I'm not I'm not doing anything right now in

this moment of time. Let's fly out there. And so we flew out to Copenhagen and that was the year that con Cheeta versed watching for Austria and so we we got to see it, you know, in its entirety there and I was with Andrew and our producer Jessica album, and I was like, do you guys see what I'm I'm talking about here? And so yeah, and then from that point on, that's when we sat down with the Eurovision people and said, would would you let us make

a movie? Yeah? And what? But what was their response because you have to imagine, like there's been nothing about it, so this would be the first thing. It was, Um, I think it was very it was very European. It was well, we don't really need the publicity. We get like two million viewers every year. Uh and uh. And I said, you know, obviously be a comedy, but I think would we'd be making fun but it is also an homage and with love at the same time for

the process. And they were like, yeah, I don't see why not and and that was kind of the agreement.

And then they let us kind of yeah, it's interesting that you say that, like it's a comedy, but it's also it is also an homage because something about the movie that I didn't expect is it is actually a very sweet movie, you know what I mean, Like it's it's way sweeter than we then we really set out to make it, and then we we really we started uh um really kind of digging in deeper and making it about a relationship between uh these two these two friends,

uh and and you know what the music means to them and in terms of the competition and listening to each other and things like that. It is surprisingly sweet in a way that um in the final song that Rachel's character sings. Uh. There I was at every single test screening. I'm in the back of the theater crying, uh kind of with how sweet the song is. I feel,

And it's actually a really good song. And then every time I I would watch that moment, I just would think about, Gosh, I can't believe we finally made this movie. And um, anyway, all of those things kind of kind or interwoven when I watched that moment, it's it's really love Like, Okay, we should say, um. Your co stars are Rachel McAdams, Dan Stevens, Pierce Brosn, and Demi Levado. Demi Levado has fun moment. We endorsed Demi Levado on

this podcast. This is a podcast that loves endorses and as the kids say, stands Demi Levado and something explosive happens with her character. We love her. What's what's she like? She was fantastic. I mean that was you know. David Dopkin, our director, kind of has all these ties to the music world because he's still uh does a lot of music videos. And he was like, I think we can get Demi to to play this role. And she was so sweet and lovely and it was she was actually

shooting during her birthday. We kind of had this really special moment where and and she had just come out of her last for or rehab. Stant Yes, I really wanted to work on this because I'm a fan, and I go, you're so sweet. We can't believe you're doing this. We just can't believe. And she said, but I have to tell you, like watching your movies really kind of helped me kind of go through what I had to

go through. And it's weird when you get hit in the chest with something like that and it's uh and it's so personal to her and uh, it was one of the sweetest things ever. And I was like, and now you're gonna do this crazy character in this movie and she's like, I don't get to do things like this. So it was it was really kind of beautiful and she just was she was up for anything. And the thing that struck us too was, uh, you forget that.

Oh my god, she is a she's an absolute pro. Yeah, she's well, she's one of those kids like she was like a Barney girl, you know what I mean. Like she's been doing it since the jump. She hits the stage, she knows exactly where the camera is, she's turning perfectly. Yeah, she's a pop star. Oh my gosh, Stone Cole pro Yeah, and would do like three takes and like, oh my god, I don't know what else you're gonna do. And she sounds unbelievable on the track that she sings like it's

just great. It's really cool. Um. But you mentioned like just the behavior of a pop star on stage, and actually that was something that I really really picking up on during it. Like obviously Eurovision is a very European show and the prop stars are very European, um, and so there is like this element of like whimsy to everything, and it's something that I love. It's like it's like pop music taken all the way to that pop place, like it is they're truly playing characters on Maximal Music.

So did you like sort of observe a lot of a lot of performances. I would imagine that you've like probably seen years going back. But did you and Rachel, who also I would say, really embodied a pop star on stage during their performances, Um, did you what did

you do for that? Yeah? We, I mean Andrew and I we we we we attended three of them in person, and just yeah, watching everything we forget because because we have American idol, we have the voice, we have these habitual kind of things that are happening all the time, and and the US is kind of the epicenter of

pop music culture in so many ways. For this for your vision there, it's it's forty seven countries and some of the countries are so small and you know, might be thousand people if that, And this is this moment for them to get in front of fifty thousand people in a worldwide audience, and you can tell it means so much the moment, and they just don't have the same platforms that I think we all take for granted,

whether it be the UK or over here. That's one of the things you know, obviously we observed the funny or interesting or kitchener how do we want to describe it? Costumes and you know, uh, when we were in Tel Aviv, I believe, which is where we shot a lot of the crowd stuff. You know, one of the acts is a guy. I couldn't figure out what the camera angle was this guy singing and it looked like he was kind of upside down and then he's being raised up and he's a full vampire coming out of a flaming

grand piano. And uh, I was like, wow that they thought of this, built it, they can They talked about it, there was meeting and they pulled it off. And I don't know that that kind of European style and flare is just a whole another thing to comment on. It's truly crazy, like to the well I want it's a spoiler, but insane things happen on stage while you and Rachel are performing, and like it's almost like you the audience believe the insanity, like that could be part of the performance.

Like I seem crazier things in your revision than like an actual disastrous thing happening as a plot point in this movie. Like that is like what goes down because it's it serves the comedy very well, especially in the physical ways, or especially in like the slap sticky ways. Like and I would say, well that this is I think your your gayest film, your queerest film, Matt, would you would you agree? I would have to agree, yes, yes, And like there's there's, there's there's would you would put

it above Blades of Glory? Blades of Glory is Blades of Glory is your most incestuous film. I feel like I love of Glory. I feel Blades of Glory is up there for me because it really again about something super specific, super fun characters, big jokes, and also like I fucking love Amy Poehler and Will Arnett. Yeah that is the strang and fair child. She's like blowing out the guns, like, well, I don't know, it's just so fun,

so stupid. I wanted to I wanted to ask, like, so we as a podcast have our on record for saying that Rachel McAdams deserved an Oscar for mean Girls. So this is like a podcast that has for many years wanted to see her return to like a big comedy like this, and then it's so fun to see her return to big comedy like this, because she has become such a movie star and you know, that's kind of just what happened after Mean Girls, and she's sure she's done comedy, but to see her play a character

is fun. What's your experience with her? And please spare no detail. We love Rachel, I mean Rachel. Yeah, she you kind of forget, just like you said, She's probably known more for the notebook and the serious actress and that sort of thing, but she is so committed and funny and specific and even to the point of singing with a specific Iceland accent. And because we are fire, saga is from Iceland. Yes, your readers, it's you're the readers, right, thank you, right um. But she I think she was

a little bit like, oh, here we go. I haven't been on the ship in a while. But then she just she just dove right in and she's funny. She's funny and so lovable to look at that she kind of gives my character, Lars, you know, the the weight behind it, because she's willing to go on his journey with him, and and she brings such sincerity to how much she loves this guy with this dream that you know, he's tried twenty something years now to get in and and and so it it allows you to believe in

my story and our story collectively. We had the best time. I mean, she's all hands on deck, she's got kid and a partner, and so I didn't get to see her that much. I was out partying in London. She could not answer the bell. No come on, she got come on, waitchil come on, We're going to party. Also, not for nothing, but I went. I went to Stockholm. This is a couple of years ago, but we did, like for the first Europe for the first time, we

landed in Stockholm. We were going to Amsterdam, but we still had like a day and a half to spend in Stockholm and such such a fun city. And also we did go to the Pop Music Hall of Fame, which I've talked about a little bit on this podcast, but it's essentially like an Abba Hall of Fame, but

pop music Hall of Fame. But there's like, have you've definitely been, I've been to the Abba exactly the euro it's like a whole Eurovision section and you can watch all the performances, and that I think was my first experience with it. Like this is crazy, like finding out that Celine Dion was in it. Sure truly, Like it's like there's such such a deep well of pop music history that I think Americans don't really know about that

is euro Vision, but it's it's an institution. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's um um and which is which is why um it's interesting something that's so viewed there. We don't really we don't really know that much about it over here exactly. It's so weird until two weeks from now, and then oh, America will know whether whether they want to or not, whether they want to or not. I do love I do love the idea that you will Ferrell are the

ambassador for your vision. It's too good. It's perfect. Also that I do want to I do want to say that I have a deep appreciation for the fact that the Dan Stevens character in this film is like a baritone pop singer, because that is like, that is something that is a very prevalent thing in euro Vision and around the world. Is like, yeah, you men who are singing like this, we don't really have that here. No,

it's all tenors. Yeah right, so guy, super super high voices. No, he is he is all man and very sexualized and big, big, deep powerful baritone. Yeah he is, he is there. He is a masculine singing with his song Lion of Love, Lion of Love, which had amazing I don't know when you guys watched the movie if you noticed the video screen behind the performances has amazing graphics lions and and Paula's and animals from the from the African tundra jumping

behind his performance. The animal Kingdom is very much pleasant, very much so. Um you guys try and wear like Glasgow and and Edinburgh and like Iceland. You guys were in Iceland. We actually were in Iceland for the last four days. But yeah, we were in London and Scotland and then uh ice Land for the last four days, which was kind of amazing. We were literally in this

town of Housavic, where our characters are from. And I think we could have found a place that looked similar to a small town that would have been just twenty miles out of Raakovic. Yeah, but instead we're four hours away that and all the Icelandic actors I would talk to that be like what you're actually shooting in Housavic. I was like, yeah, isn't that great? Were like, why there's nothing there. There's two restaurants, one hotel, and uh

so here we were. This big movie crew kind of took over this small, little little town which had an amazing Uh have you guys been to Iceland? It was my first time, never know, but I've always wanted to go. It's like sort of become like a very popular vacation destination in the past couple of years. I've seen a lot of install photos from there. These hot springs. Yeah, this small town of maybe ten thousand people had this incredible hot spring complex of the top of the hill.

Um so everyone would after shooting go up and have a beer in the hot spring. Unbelievable that sounds. I was literally I was wondering, like this Iceland, there is this movie magic, because you know, they could do amazing things in Hollywood. This movie magic. They can make you believe anywhere in the world. We were. We were limping to the finish line a little bit on the movie because I went into my trailer and all of a sudden,

someone just came in and she starts. There was no knock, It just burst into the trailer and uh, there's just she starts putting a piece of paper on on the bathroom door of my trailer. I'm like, oh, hello, She's like hello, just keeps working of like, uh, can I can I help you? And he's like, yes, you cannot use your bathroom and uh and it's starting. This is in October, so it's starting to get I don't think it's cold for them, but it was cold for me.

Um And I'm like, oh, why like just for like the next hour or like no, for the whole time. I go can I ask why? She's like, well, we the pipes will freeze. We can't so oh okay, so but she said, but don't worry. There's a porta potty that's you guys can share over here. And so I didn't worry. I didn't understand. I didn't understand what was happening, because I know they make a lot of movies in Iceland now, but for some reason we could yeah, exactly

Hollywood or so. I think that meant that someone didn't want to stay up all night long and run the heater. Pipes don't freeze. And I think the toilets are unionized in Iceland. I think that's what that's what the deal is that's a huge that's a very strong union, big

union movie toilets. That has to be. Um. Okay, so you finished shooting that in October and then you I really before we asked the question, and to cut to a break, I do want to ask or talk about the sketch, which I think has taken on this weird life of its own. Um. But well, you came and hosted an November of this past season. It was highlight for me and highlight for everybody there. We were so excited that you were back. We did the sketch, a dress rehearsal called cast list, and then it got cut

for time. But it's it's sort of has had it's a weird like little at a moment online. It was cut for time, but it was it was it was where you were the drama teacher and then well we were all the kids waiting for the cast. Did you help write that or no? No, that was that was Streeter and Mikey Streeter side and god, I love that sketch. I looked it up last night just to put for this interview, and I was just like, let's just like relive this and watch it. But then in my YouTube search.

More like there's at least one video out there of an actual drama club out of high school like doing a line for line re enact smith of the sketch, adding their own details in there. But like, I feel like this is like part of like that little subculture now of like actual high school drama departments who like watch that sketch and are like, oh, this is so real, because that was the response. Everyone's like, this is so accurate, and and it was just kind of a collection of

of stereotypical memories, memories of of drama types. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my god. That's well, that's I mean, I guess that's the good and bad part about the show is that things cut for time now have this second life. Um where in my in my day it was when it's cut for time, it was just it was just gone. You had to mourn it. You maybe would hopefully get to bring it back. But I I probably I yeah, I probably had as many people reacting to that as

anything that was on the actual show. That Yeah, that's how do you guys feel about when stuff gets put online? Would you rather have it have a second life on the real show or oh that's a good question. Um, I it depends. So for me, when it's when something gets cut for time that can't really be recreated with another host, I would say then, like that's when I've

only had to do that once. And that was when RuPaul hosted in February and we he and I had a sketch that was cut for time, and I was like, I'm not gonna be able to do this with another host, like she's like, and the fact that things are consumed in so many different ways, it's not totally exactly and like a lot of people are watching it the next

morning anyway. Um, but yeah, like I hadn't really and and this is the myopic of me for not thinking that, like oh yeah before YouTube, like you know, just we're gone, Yeah, yeah, you're just How great is RuPaul? By the way, so great are you? Interviewed him for Burgundy and we were just blown away at how smart the guy. The guy is so smart, he's kind of talk about anything. Yeah,

he really has. He's incredible. My school dropout, right, So that's why I've been telling all like you, all the readers that listen to this, everyone's got to drop out of high school. This is what I keep you got. That's the new that's the new movement. That's my big initiative, and actually that we should make. We should say right now the title of this episode is dropped out of

high school kids. Um. So just as we get that message out there straight away, I always feel like whenever did you tell me something is cut bowing it it always and it appears online the next day. I think that another thing we have to remember is not everyone is watching it at Saturday night anyway, and so it's like for them, for anyone, it's just like another SNL sketch. You know, they're just consuming piecemeal and granularly. Anyway, did the did the peaka boo jeans? Did that air on

the on air? Or was that cut for Was that later? That also got cut for time? And I was very sad about it. Yes, they were out to get you that week, Bow and Yang. I didn't get any on um I did. I did get to um stand next to Will. Will was playing Tom Styer. I was playing indury ing Um and my my terrible terrible injurying. But then um but in this peakaboo, this rerangular peakaboose sketch

written by um Alex Moffatt Will Stephen. Um. I was so excited because I there was a moment where you and I Will had to walk down this bar, but we just and we had bump butts and our our ass cracks were showing, and I was like, I can't believe I get to like, did your butt crack touch touch his book cracks in touch? But yeah, it got it got pretty close. It got close. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

but there wasn't. I was like, I can't believe I get to air my asshole with Will and I got to uh to hip check a jukebox with my rengular peekaboos. Did that hurt? No? Not really. It was just like, hey, what if I walked over here and gave the jukebox a little, a little, a little how do you do? And uh? And that stayed in the commercial. That's your

Your instincts are always perfect. Okay, let's no, no, not one thing, which is that I can't believe that we have not spoken about the sort of the sketch that you did with Cecily, which was the sort of reality show Bravo type thing James Anderson, and it also made me think of the sketch called when you saying call me a boy. Dot night that one years ago, like the cabaret what was it called? It was Kristen Wig and Bill were hosting like a jazz night. Oh I

should know this James Anderson, that guy, he's a legend. Yeah. I actually listened to your guy's show with James. Uh, and it's so funny to hear him be interviewed. Yeah, well he's the best. We so you know, like we we came to visit Sudi Sudie Green, who's one of

the writing supervisors, and we were upstairs. Eyes met yeah, and we met him and it was it was like one of those moments though, because that was another thing like around the same time, the same kind of people I was connecting with in high school over Anchorman also loved the sketches that we would later find out he was writing almost all of them, and so that was like a true moment, like he is he is amazing, No, And that was that was such a fun thing because

I would just remember, oh, this is Paula Pell's friend James come by and then wait, James is now writing great and uh, but it's crazy that he's been writing for twenty years Yeah, he's a he's a hit machine head factory. Okay, we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back with Will. We'll ask the question. Okay, and we're back with Will. Matt, why don't you ask the questions? So here's the question that we've been alluding to, and it is the moment that we're going to ask it.

So this is we're going to ask you, Will Ferrell, what was the culture that made you say? Culture is for me now to sort of boil this down, it's just defining pop culture. It could be something you saw as you were becoming you that sort of helped define how you did become you. Oh my gosh. Um, you know, well, there's probably a bunch of different answers. Okay, you mentioned, though, Matt, theme parks, your love of theme parks. Okay, I'm gonna

e brace myself now. Okay. So, growing up in Orange County, California, in the mean streets of Irvine, Um, which which is Jason to Anaheim, home of Disneyland. So I grew up going to Disneyland probably two to three times a year. And in thinking about, um, this this actual question, Disneyland was a huge that was a huge part of my life. Think about amazing to hear. And I remember being five years old and thinking at my first thought of, uh, this is what I want to do with my life.

I came, but it wasn't being entertainment my my job that I pictured in my little kid head. I wanted to be a character, so that I wanted to dress up as Goofy, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse and just walk around the park. And I was, I was. I was thought that would be the most joy filled experience to get to, even though I have no no consideration what's for for temperature control or break time especially then, or the fact that you don't get to say a word, you just have to you are a silent human form.

But I was in love with those with that kind of uh kind of watching, that kind of connection between the meat and green experience. Yeah, exactly, And I remember thinking that that those were probably the first seeds of

wanting to entertain. We're planted with our annual biennual you know, three times a year forre lucky trips to Disneyland, which, by the way, trips to Disneyland started with tears and ended with tears because they're so damn tired, but tears of anticipation of not being able to sleep the night before going Tomorrow's the day we are gonna nothing like

waking up on that morning. Nothing like waking up and nothing like I remember getting in the most ridiculous arguments with my brother about which rides we've got to go on first, And you know, the impulse is to go on matter Mount. You knows Matterhorn, Matterhorn right out of the game. I'm like, no, you gotta save it. You can't do Matterhorn right away. We got to start with the teacups and work our way up. And he's like,

why would we do the teacup They're terrible? Um, but having fights about that and then before you know it, moms saying one more ride and we're like, and we're out what And it's tears and you've let go of your helium balloon as you see it drift off into

the parking lot. So that's like a huge thing. Yeah, I have to say I'm I'm more of your brother type because I'm the kind of person, especially the way that they do it now where it's like with the fast pass of it all, where it's like you have to kind of get a reservation to do these rides, and if you don't get one, it's gonna run out for the rest of the day. So you kind of

got to do that stuff early. That meet and great experience that you that you describe, it's on a whole other level now, especially in the past couple of years as some of the movies have really popped off, Like

talking about Frozen. We went to Epcot one time and obviously there's no kids in my and my family and I don't really care about the meeting experience at this point, but um, it was like the line to meet Elsa was longer than any attraction line, Like it was like a four hour imagine, I thought to myself, like, imagine being a parent and you this is what you really have to be a selfless person to be a parent

in Disney. But like standing in line for I'm not kidding you four hours to meet a woman who is dressed up as a character to get this experience for your kid. But but the little girls you could see it meant so much to exactly exactly, Yeah, it's pretty cool. And then and then I, um, my dad. My dad's a musician and played for years on and off with the Righteous Brothers, and there were summers where they performed at Disneyland. Uh. And so that was like a magical experience.

They have like the Tomorrowland stage which rises up out of the center of the earth like it does in the future, like like stage as well in the future we should say. Uh. And I was like, Oh my god, this is incredible. They had this like in Disney World. They have it's called the Starlight Cafe. I think it's called the Starlight Cafe where they have this like I've never been to disney World, by the way, Oh you

must go. It's I mean, it's like Disneyland on true Like it's like it's an acid it's like fully exploded. It's ten thousand times bigger. It's like it's really a little overwhelming and a little bit kind of scary how big it is and what an expedition it is. But it's something you should go at least once. But they have this like alien playing the piano and sort of like doing like a like sort of cabaret like sort

of thing while you eat your like fast food. And I used to think it was the coolest thing ever that they had an alien doing that. I was like, that's such a good touch to get the alien coming in the alien going. It was a full animatronic But Bowen, do you did you have a family pilgrimage to do to any of the Disney parks? We did. We um understood the significance of Disney, So we nine d nine when we we went and so um, but it was a thing where and this was a too built up

It was not too built up. And I remember, I remember, I remember remember even as like a nine year old leaving and being like the succeed in my expectations, which which never happens as a child, I thought this was strictly like an immigrant thing. But I think this is just like if you're middle class. Um. But we couldn't eat in the park. We had to bring our sandwiches

into the park. I was talking like buying a commemorative cup was a huge yes, huge deal and like my sister and I would use all our powers of persuasion to like get at universal um cup Jurassic Park with a t Rex head like that was like the prize that was yes, yes that was what you that was what you like went there for. So you could theoretically bring the cup home and bring it to school and like show your friends. Yeah, it is all about the cup.

And remember the thing that they did to sell the cup was to tell you this is a cup that you can keep refilling. It was like, this is a special cup. You know, these other cups, these other young girls, you can't reveal them. This one you can fill back

up with any refreshment of your job. I almost I almost worked there one summer in college and went through the orientation and everything and um uh, only to not show up for my first day of boy and because I wanted to be one of the jungle cruise guys, you know with the you know, so happy you brought this up, with the jokes and the whole banter and the I was like, I can do that. I could nail that. And I didn't realize that that's one of those jobs. You have to work there ten years at

the park to get those. And it's like a whole audition process, hierarchy, it's the whole thing. And did you know, speaking of things, you but when you walk down Main Street the candy stores, they pump the scent of vanilla out into the streets. Oh, it's a huge It's everything about it is planned out. So I got a little peek behind the curtain. I didn't like it as much as when I was a kid. Well, I mean, if you peek behind the curtain there, you're not gonna like

a lot of what's happening. I mean, those workers are under paid. Let's flat outside that right now. It's a rule of culture number those words under But this is the thing about Disneyland, I think, and even let's say Universal Studios or like not Sperry Farm, but like l A or in the in the southern California area, like Will talking about his dad playing gigs at Disneyland on the Tomorrowland stage, I'm like, I don't know if this

does this track. It's like in New York you get like a bunch of performance venues and like growing up there, you get to like whatever, like engage with live performance as much as you want and whatever what you want. But I feel like in California it's like you go to see the theater in l A. But like that's not like what l A is known for, Like no, you totally Disney And then you see street performers where you see like people just performing live or even if

they're just like slinging jokes at the Jungle Cruise. No, that was and and not s Very Farm. Another another kind of watching performance moment they had Well, I don't I'm I'm older than you guys, but I don't know if you guys remember the song Convoy. We got a great old Convoy trucking on down the line. It was a song I love it. I just want to stop everything and say I love that. That's my favorite song. The guy's whole stick was he was it was music

for truckers and he had this number one hit. God, we got a great old Convoy. It. He was performing at not Spury Farm, and I said, I said to my dad, like I gotta go see the show. I just gotta go. And so I sat there alone as a kid and watch and then found my I gave my gave him a standing ovation like with of course you did. Was like it was a damn good show. Yeah, because they're great. That's the thing about those people that

performed is that they're great. And and a lot of people that I know, um, you know they worked at Disneyland or you know. I now that we now that people have listened to this podcast and they know that I like Junior World so much and and I actually let them know when we're gonna be there. We've met a bunch of people that performed there and they're awesome.

And um, it's funny that you bring up the Jungle Cruise Skipper because you want to know when I was young, my and Bowen knows this because I did a whole show about it when we were in New York. Um, I wanted to be a Universal Studios the Jaws ride. The guy who was on the boat, like the skipper of the Jaws, skipper who is like We're doing a tour of amity and this I know every word. I'm literally off book on it, not right now, but in

theory I am. And of course Jaws attacks the boat and he has to kind of be like oh no, and fire a grenade launcher at like fake sharks and like you know, react to everything. But that was my whole dream for years, as I wanted when I was a little I wanted to move there and be that, and then years later I was. I did it as

a bit on stage where Bowen played the shark. Bowen played the shark and I was the skipper, and I would just be wildly shooting, and we would take members for the audience and we put them on the boat in the stage and that would be the stipper and Bowen would come out at different points and you see be Chelsea and attack the boat. Inch in shark costume? Do you have like a minimal shark costume? Very minimal shark costume. But I mean it was all in the performance.

It was all in the vocal placement of you know, you're screaming shark. But it was me. I played Jaws, but I had inherited the role from writer from and Dressen, who writes SNL now and A. Dressen was the first shark when I did it at the People's Improv Theater and she, I guess, was was too busy to play the shark, and Bowen actually stepped in as the shark and I played our friend Dave Mazzoni played the fire and Anna got the boot and got never to play

the shark again. Now, yeah, and she's actually not doing well. Now, She's really not doing well. Now when she looks back, she knows what she where she made her mistake, that she made her mistake there. But Bowen was an amazing shark place I don't know if you know this about Bowen, but he's an amazing performer, and he's explosive. He's so explosive. Yes, yeah, he comes the way he would scream at the at

the at the audience members, he was very scary. Well, I'm sure they're not expecting it from Bowen, who seems calm, cool and collected, and the next thing, you know, shark attack. Yeah, there were really many times where I felt he was, you know, endangering the people on stage. Would you just vocalize what you felt like a sharks that sound like or would you just say shark attack? Well, this is

the thing. When Matt says he's off book, he's he's not only off book, but he's synchronized to the actual track that plays. That's impressive on the vehicle. So he would play the track at U C b um and it would I would have to synchronize. I had like you have to be ready to go, you can't. Ye, this was mariographed blocked thing. Yeah, no, we're not kidding.

This is really true. This is very true. And in the track, jawns the sharks screams like this is like prime whatever they thought a shark noise was put in there. It was like a Jurassic Park roar, which surely does

not happen with Sharks. But I had to sort of match my pitch, my tone to whatever was in the track, and I had to form audio cues, like internal like self made cues like oh, when when there's a rustle at this at like minute four, that's when I'll be right, you know, if you know, Jaws famously has a very signature soundtrack, and so there's points in the music where Bone would know, this is where I enter stage left and scream at the people that Maths put in the boat.

And also we should say they were also multi sort of like four D elements where I would have buckets of water, I had a water gun I would set and the audience would get wet and I would Actually the show was called you Will Get Wet, and it is online. It is on YouTube. I'm I'm checking that out as soon as we're done here. You must check it out. It was and yes, by the way, it was a musical. So this was not just a four

minutes This is a long. It started as a bit I was doing on stage where I just did the Jaws ride and it was like people would like book me for like a stand up set, and I was like, cool, I need time in the space beforehand here in my tech I need. It became too much of a thing. One's gonna do the show too. Yes, So I did it like several times, and then I was like, this will not sustain. I can't do this like on the scene. I must actually do it as part of its own show.

And so I wrote a show. It was called You Will Get Wet. It was all about a fictionalized version of myself wanting to be the Jaws boat skipper, and it culminated in the Jaws performance, which was my addition together. And that's bone was incredible Shark and he's gone on to do amazing things as a result of playing of you and some of you. Um, but it's still it's still listened in your credits though, right, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I am yeah, I am Broadway Broadway Dada perfect. It

was Broadway, yeah, the Broadway database. Well no, but I mean I I do like this concept of like you like going to like as a destination performance, like I'm gonna go see the guy who sings convoy um, and like that's like that's like, what like sparks something in you. It was a bonus, a pleasant surprise that you know whatever. June afternoon, I just happened to see that that performer was at the you know, Silver Wagon show room and

that not very farm and amazing. Yeah, yeah, before we do, I don't think so, honey, I want to asked about where you're placing. So okay, so big many Players Network, new podcast network network with I heart Media from Will and thank you for producing us, and thank god, thank you guys for coming on board. This is a a coupe all the time. And there's that that we were talking about, um making a way in that comedy. It's perfect.

I feel like, okay, so so I like that. I feel I would say the flagship show is the Ron Burgundy podcast now. And and you have Carolina, who's your assistant, who's lovely, we've met, she's phenomenal. Perfect But okay, but Ron, let's place Ron like in space time here, so he is in the he's in like yeah yeah, but like but yeah, he hasn't really aged since the seventies, right, No, he hasn't aged. He's kind of yeah, he's stuck at whatever A g is a robust late forties Okay, I

would say, yeah, and he's learning. He's like he's like learning so much about this world and like he's trying to evolve. Yeah, he um and he he ping pongs back and forth between. Sometimes he is incredibly enlightened, he's right with modern times and you kind of can't believe Ron's really this with it. And then other times he of course is is hopeless. Um, and poor Carolina suffers the brunt of a lot of Ron's uh misinformation. Yeah,

it's perfect in that Carolina is straight manning you. But um, but also I feel like what Ron is going through is like a nice mental model. It's a nice blueprint for everybody to to see. Oh, I can be so far behind on something, but very as you said, enlightened in others and willing to learn, but prone to us to flare ups and abusive language and abusive behavior, which is not fair. But he's always apologetic. Yes, I think that's that's what we gotta take away. That's what we got.

He's trying his best. Ultimately, Now, where does the Veronica corning Stone exist in this universe? Are they still married? Is that? As shame moved on Veronica isn't referenced that often. In fact, Ron is always talking about past girl friends. It kind of makes no sense. Um. And in fact, the last season Ron um uh Ron had a relationship with with Siah right yes, about two or three episodes he was dating Cia, which he Sia did tell Ron she was interested in hang out, but they and she

had to break it off. And but I don't I don't think she was as serious about it as Ron was to be quite honestly. So he's a little broken hearted over that still, but he's technically still married, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, well I would love to hear him discuss that. And Baxter's probably a hundred years old and been through so much. There's a lot of a lot of things are being bent, yeah,

right in his reality. And this is not to say that, um the lawns of physics even applied in the original movies, right right, but they definitely don't apply in the podcast of course. Way with it. Yeah, yeah, it's a looser medium, write you, yeah, super loose ye. This medium there is amongst loose lips, loose lips medium, you know, loose lips medium. That's that's that's actually the sister network of big money players loose Lips medium and I'm starting it and it's

only podcast with mediums. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I have Theresa Caputo. Uh, she's the Long Island medium and I have at least twenty podcast pitches from her already already since I've said it. Yeah, she already knew. She was like, I've been waiting for someone to say they had a podcast for mediums, and so she read ready to go, Ready to go. They all they sound, they sound okay, Um, okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come back with

I don't think so honey. Okay, and we're back even and we're back even, Okay. So I think it's time for I don't think so Honey. I don't know. I don't think so Honey. Is our one minute segment where we take one minute to rail against something in culture. Um, there's a lot going on, there's a lot to look forward to, there's a lot to feel some dread around. I would say there's a lot going on in the world. Um, I have chosen a topic that is not necessarily I

would say topical per se. And I would say a lot of people might not even be thinking about this at all. And that's actually why I feel it's important, because in this time, something slipped through the cracks and and everyone I I'm ready now. I should just preface this by saying, as a result of my bike accident two weeks ago, my phone is still shattered, so bone, I will need you to what was your accident? Well, well, what happened was? Should I not ask? Am I opening

a can of word? And I'm actually very open about my my injuries. Um, so I have flipped. I flipped over the bars. It was stupid too. It was I was riding my bike and I went to break so I could put directions in my phone, which is just not a way you should behave in life. And I flipped over the front and landed on my elbow and wrist. Luckily, we're fine. I just have some I've banged up a little bit. That's that's not so bad in the world of bike bike injuries. My boyfriend said it looked like

I was dead. Like he said that it was. It was a kind of shocking that I didn't die. He sounds just a little disappointed, Um, but I was No, I'm just kidding. He he likes me, but he was like, I was so shocked that you were able to get up because I almost let me know how you are.

But I'm the kind of person that I freak out about little things like my internet will be cutting out every now and then, like I can't get my Netflix to work, like it was a real m had a real time trying to get Eurovision to play because my internet was going in. And that's the kind of ship that I lose my mind about. But I flipped over the front scene of my handlebars on my bike and I was just like, it's cool. Just like drive back and drive back with the car and come get me.

He's like, it's crazy that you didn't freak out about that, but like, wait he had to pick you up. Well, we were far away from the house, and so I was like, just continue to ride on your bike. I'm gonna sit here, you get the car, come back. And he was like, I can't believe you're being so measured because you're such a crazy idiot. I was like, well, it was this, It was this was not on such a busy road. I take it. It really wasn't. We

actually we were on we were on vacation. We left l A for a little while, and it happened like far away in like the suburb area. So I flipped over and I was like, Okay, this wasn't like a busy intersection or any it was. It was very actually was very temcular, I would say, and I was, and I was about to say that, um so anyway, by antman John, he does not have to do with that, though I do feel it's important if you care about it. Okay, all right, that's a good profesce. This is Matt Robbers.

Wasn't his time starts now? I don't think so, honey. The circus, it's bitch. There's nuts everywhere on the damn floor. Clean it up. How come the circus is something people go to circles? Circus is I'm gonna say controversially, Eurovision without singing? Excuse me. If you're expecting me to pay to watch someone flip over, excuse me. I could turn in once a year every May and see someone do flips. And also built a high G sharp. I bet you

didn't think that note existed on the musical scales. Guess what bitch it do? Yes? I don't think so, honey. The circus. I have to sit in what is a circle to watch something, and oftentimes this is not an optimal way to watch things. I like to theater bit, I like to be seated and watch the audience perform out staging. Wise, I have problems with the circus. Now, let's get real. These animals are enslaved. They need to become free. I don't want to see an elephant in

a big hat. I want to see an elephant with no hat in the what African wilderness or wherever they live. They also are in Thailand. If I'm to believe the many Instagram photos I see from hashtag white people, I don't think so, honey. The circus and the enslavement of elephants. And that's one minute in seventeen seconds. Well, I went

a little over take that Greatest Showman. And can I say the reason I'm even thinking about this is because we just watched The Greatest Showman the other night and I was like, this is a circus of a film, right right. But I did enjoy it. I did enjoy I enjoyed it too, And some of the music is so damn good. Rewrite the stars. It's a moment we love Zendia. We love Zach Effron. We wish he would

do more musical things. It's no double trouble. It's no thank you, it's no double trouble of the song from if we're ranking duets and film, double trouble stars is no double trouble. Gosh, that was a tour divorce there, Yes, it really was. I think it's a rule of culture.

The circus is just your vision without singing that. The circus is just without And I would also say like the circus would be better if someone came out at the end and we all devote on the different an x and there was like a sort of Eurovision moment of actress because I need I need some competition at the circus. That's the way to bring the circus back is with the absolutely element. Und I want to say that anything that's circus themed, I'm also not on board with.

I'm watching Legendary, that ballroom show, that being show on HBO Max. The every episode is great. My least favorite was the episode where they did a circus theme and I was like, I don't care for any of this. I don't actually care for the aesthetic of a circus or the fact that I'm supposed to be transported to a circus setting him like, I don't really, this doesn't mean anything to me. Well, circuses have dark of course, and we should say that. And also P. T. Barnham

was not this magician that we all think. He had hashtag problems, but he was very handsome. He was very, very handsome and very convinced. According the Greatest Showman, I mean, if you looked anything like Hugh Jackman. Have you ever met Hugh Jackman. Yeah, I met him a couple of times. Delightful. Is it something to be hold? It is? Yeah? Yeah, he actually hosted the show when I was there and we did a Oh yeah, I bet back in his Wolverine days. Yeah, exactly. He's got pipes. He's got the

pipes for real. Oh he's he's speaking of pipes. I was just gonna mention, remember that era when all the pop star girls were doing circus themed things like Brittany Spears had Circus, Pink had fun House. There was like in this era where all the pop stars were like in circuses. I think it's ongoing. Maybe it is. It's great to think about that. There was, wasn't there. CBS's evening of of the stars and they would do they would act, they would train and do circus acts. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was like a thing. It was like, we're gonna watch, you know, Amy Brennaman do the exactly. Yeah, Amy Brennaman is gonna do the Strapeeze the stars of CBS shows within Yeah, they would, they would put them in circus scenarios. So that happened. I forgot about that. Yeah, that's it's almost like the entertainment industry thinks the circus is a thing it can bring back, sort of like variety shows or something. Were you ever served people at all? Do

you have any appreciation for that? By the way, I I auditioned. I tried to audition for you know what, you'd be good at Blue Man Group? Oh, I that would be something that would be a limited run of Blue Man Group. I think that you would be really good in a group that I kid you not. The guy on the left is Will Ferrell. How do you know. I swear he was on Lost Culture. So about wanting to do a run on Blue Man Group, and I swear that's him. It would be very good. That'd be

very meta. That'd be very meta. No, I don't know. I think they'd be happy. I think that your top credit from now on should be lost cultures. Is that okay? Okay? Number one? Yeah, I wanted to I wanted to ask before that became canon. Um bow and Yang. I think it might be time for you to do it. I don't think so okay, all right, this is Bowen yangs. I don't think so honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so honey. Family size anything. You don't

know my life. Don't know my life and family size something is on the opposite spectrum of meals for one in the frozen aisle. Do not try to push this nuclear family narrative on me. Don't try to shape my lifestyle into something that I don't want or am not ready for quite yet. So let me buy the small, reasonably priced bag of hot cheetos. Let me buy the big bag, actually the moderately sized bag of pizza roles

when I'm shopping at the grocery store. Grocery stores, as we know, are basically the most perilous, dangerous, precarious places in the world. Right now, bringing ground psychologically happen me for there with this ideological nightmare that you are trying to graft onto my lifestyle. Bitch, I'm gonna be single, and I might own two dogs, one fair who doesn't smell because of what genetic modification thing. And that's one minute. And I have to say family style is a psychological

ideological attack. And then it's funny that it's great that we say that. It's important that we say that when you are a family style restaurant or food product service, it's an ideological I've never thought of it that way in agreement, thank you. There's no reason for it. It's normative and we don't need it. We only pizza should be personal only, and that's actually rule of culture number sixty. Pizza should be personal only, four little slices. Every anything

else is normative family style ideological attack. Even though when I go to a restaurant, I always ask if that can be served family style? Whatever I'm eating, I will say I like the style at restaurants, even if you're not, even if you're not in a family. This is a betrayal. Hans, our producer, just said I love family style. Get the funk out of here. No one asked you. Who the hell asked you a head of Content Hans he is he is HC, so he is HFC, and I mean HFC.

Hans can actually take several seats because no one asked him. No one asked him. Why did he have to chime in? I have to say, I think we've discussed this on the pod before, but it's true. It's like family style. You know, when and I am talking about restaurants, I'm sorry, I'm gonna go there, but you order family style, it's usually one person deciding everything that gets ordered, and then you'll see yah. No. Hans also says anti family stylist,

anti immigrants out here. No one asked you, Oh my god, but how was an anti immigrant? Because family style is

and tell him. Hans says, okay, okay. So the idea of like single plates, single serve is very much like I would say, I would say, it's it's kind of like not even a European concept, but it feels like an American concept, whereas if you eat family style, it's like, oh, this is just this is how a lot of this is a lot of like immigrant cultures around the world eat, and so you know, and the fact that we have to even call it family style to differentiate it from

the norm is kind of you know, it's it's it's other rising language. I don't mean to together. I have an announcement to s j W about this, but that's my thing. What I actually have an announcement to make okay, As as a result of this conversation and the exchange of ideas, I've changed and I now have come to a place where I realized that family style is the only way that we should be eating at restaurants and

absorbing food and time together. And I want to apologize for recent comments in which I and which I called family style not good. End of statement. I actually think too, this could be transcended into a new uh, a new positive euphemism, like, hey, what's up we all let's we're all family style? Right yet? Yeah, that's really good. I don't know what its specifically is about, but yeah, the new title of this episode is family family Style. What was it previously? I don't remember out of school to

drop out of school kids. Well, I don't know, I do. I do want to send that message out. Well, it's pretty explicit in the episode. I think the title family style is nice. It's inviting. I want to point out Matt. That turn that was there, that was not only spectacular, that was very Ron Burgundy, very like you know, I aspire to be um late twenties gay Ron Burgundy. And I say that as a thirty year old man. Yes, yes, thank you. Will. I think it's time for Will to do.

I don't think so. It's time for Gosh. Okay, okay, Well, you're gonna nail. You're gonna nail. It's gonna be great. I'm just supposed to launch into it, right, You're supposed to launch it. Here we go. We're gonna We're gonna kick you up. This is Will Ferrells. I don't think so many as time starts now, I don't think so. Honey. Let's talk about Lady G. Okay, let's talk about Senator

Lindsay Graham from the great state of South Carolina. You can't show up with the beautiful blonde hair and the puffy hair do and not be Lady g. You are full on Lady G and just let it all go go and you will become a folk hero. You will be allowed back in South Carolina, that's fine, but you will be trumpeted, you will be heralded in New York l A, Miami, Philadelphia, any major city in America, and people will bow out to you Lady G five seconds. And that's what I don't think, So I agree. So

so that's one minute. I have to say, I personally will never forgive him for doing the things that he's done, but I will say, if he wants to come hang out, he can go sit in the corner of the bar over there. But that's the thing. He could go sit in the corner and he could do a Lady G tour and he could go, Hey, you guys are right. I was wrong about this. I was wrong about that, and I was wrong, but I was too scared to

just step out and be who I really am. And uh, that would be a powerful thing now for people his his his generation who may be struggling in the same way. I think that perhaps it would be very powerful. It would be because I think that's an epidemic. Absolutely. I would say that in order for Lady G to be full redeemable in my eyes, you have to do something

to like to rescind the Brett Kavanaugh appointment. I think, like I think he was like, well he would, Yeah, he'd have to come clean on a list the whole list of things that goes without saying that can only be addressed in a one man show. I think I think he, I think he has to come out in a one way show Lady G like, well, what's that Lady Day Like the Dan McDonald play that she wanted

Tony for. It has to be that, But Lady G. Okay, That's the only way I can forgive Lindsey Graham is if he does Lady G at at Emerson's Barn, grill at the Turkish Baths, at the Russian Lady g at the Russian Baths, And it has to be storytelling with songs, with songs, and then I can talk about forgiving Lady G. It would be the first step in frankness. Yeah, and I should say I'm not buying a ticket to the show, but he started to do the show, Yeah, right, as

part of the mini steps. Yeah, just start with the show, start with the one man show, and then we'll talk and then we'll we'll we can begin a dialogue perchance. Yeah, I'm I was gobsmacked at the Platinum Blonde. Yeah. And here's the thing. I mean, there there's there's a lot, there's a lot going on there actually during quarantine, who's getting their hair worked on. I mean, look what's happening here. That looks great. Here's the thing, that's what gays in

crisis do. They go platinum blonde. So to watch him sort of like live that tell tale sign. Yes, all the messes in my life, like you see them go platinum blonde the second let the second things start going south. So to see him like in the midst of like the gop I hope, finally finally tanking in front of our eyes, to see him go platinum on the world stage. It's just two on the nose. It's two on the nose. Yeah,

and that's actually going to be the opening number. Two on the nose, on the nose, it's two on the nose me, Lady g G l G. Yeah, that's I think that's actually a really good opening number, and I think it would it would rival all that jazz as the great opening numbers of our time. Yeah, for sure. Is there any way to figure out who coined the moniker Lady G Well, supposedly that's his self self anointed name. Yeah, no, no, no, no,

it's not self appointed. It's the sex workers that he allegedly hired right began calling him lady in order to refer to him without saying Senator Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, because they would be nervous about a paper trail. This is the thing, though, is this is the thing that's wrong with um. The allegations is that there's a lot of conflicting inform, contradicting information. Where what I read was Lady G was what he wanted the sex workers to

call him. I feel that's see, that's a bridge too far from me. He was like, not only am I closeted, but I'd like to be referred as Lady G. I think he'd make up some boring name artist formally known as Lady G. Yeah. Well now, and I feel bad if Lady G is what he did want to be called, and now he kind of like has had that taken away from him. Actually just kidding, I don't feel bad. Well,

it's just fascinating. Yeah, if if he's just stuck and cannot doesn't have the courage to kind of you know, look, I mean that that's it's really dark and sad, and I actually I mean then you get to all this, how do you pronounce it? Is it Matt gets this stuff with the nineteen year old quote unquote, son, I just I just learned about that yesterday. I I literally

don't think so, honey. Yeah, know that there's a lot going on, and I always feel like, um, the people that feel the need to be the most publicly disparaging about certain group, you have to wonder what their complex is about that group. You know. It's like it's like with this kind of all this talk about you know, LGBT rights and um, you know, with the Supreme Court doing what they've done recently, it's like seeing people and thinking about people that would stand against that. It's like,

what is your damage? Man? Like, what is your deal? Like why do you need to step in the way of someone's job being protected? And they always bring it back to well, people should have control over who they hire, and it's like, what this is such a redirection from what the issue is, which is equality and their treatment.

So you have to wonder about these people that are the most vocal about an issue, and that's this is I'll stop short of saying more, but like, if someone out there is the most vocal about an issue and really makes themselves a figurehead, I always think we have to kind of question that that person, like, what's the deal? Well, you and I'm met are most vocal about Eurovision in song contest. The story of fire, Saga and our complex is that all of it. We hope everyone sees it.

June the segue of the year. I was incredible. I was gonna say, my damage is that we weren't in it. Yeah, that's well what the fun was up? But they're bad. That's our that's my full Lady G. I pulled. That's your lady G. Yeah that was you were too afraid to put us in it because you knew we would shine right to exactly you knew we would shine too bright. I um, I'm gonna have to redeem myself. I have

a way you can do that. Can you publicly stay right now that me and Bowen should be cast as the eels and Flotsam and Jetsam in the Little Mermaid movie. That's all we want. I want to go on record that Matt Rogers and Bowne Yang should be cast as the eels, Flotsam and Jetsam, Yes, in the upcoming Little Mermaid movie. And there there's kind of no other choice. I really think there is I don't think that was an And what you've done there as red has redeemed you.

And I want to say it goes along with yeah, it's done, it's done. It's that feel like it's like my family style moment. It's like this is this is your family style moment. We've got a lot of redemption on the pod today. Wow, that's good. Well, Will Ferrell, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. So

great to talk to you. And uh, you guys are so smart and funny and uh's really creative and it's just fun to finally be on here and great that you guys were willing to come on the platform and and no joke, you were one of the first ideas we thought of, and that was Carolina was like, you got you have to listen to last Coulturesta's and then my heart was like we already know who these guys are, so it was it was it's just great to kind of formally get to hang out, you know, totally, and

we wish we could do it in person. We will, you'll be back. I think we should hang out in Bowen's yellow room there my parents my parents basement. Okay, yeah, that's where we have to do it. They would love that. I think I think they would actually really respond to that idea, to be honest. Um, Well, likewise, thank you for everything you've done making us laugh all these years, and for having us on this platform. Thank you so so much. And the movie is great. We love you. Well,

let's close that every episode with the song. We close out each and every episode with the song. Okay great, huh huh u huh okay v okay you guys, Okay, I just like to put this down, sorry to read the soundtracking by the part just comes out. Everyone's gonna know it off word perfect