"Down... In... Finish..." (w/ Alison Brie)

I'm just very hot in here. You turn the no, girl, because I'm gonna use the heat. It's it's kinetic energy, yes, but it might wear you out. No, girl, I'm okay. Don't you worry about me? What do we do yesterday? You wanna tell everyone what we did? We had a full day. We went to Brooklyn Crab, which was my old stomping grounds, and it was very um what's that song? I don't know why? I am frightened? Yeah, I know

my way around? Yeah that song. Yes, And you told me the bathroom that you would um have violent poisonous ships in You are such a germ because go ahead and say why, Because you were prescribed a very aggressive Z path. What happened once, So if there was a period in your life, yeah, you took his antibiotics and they were so aggressive you had to go to the bathroom.

And that's why I'm always angry at City m D and Urgent Care is because they if you go in and say hey, I'm sort of feeling, you can't even finish the sentence, they say we're going to put you on a Z path. And even if you were just there like sort of a month before and they put you on a Z pack, they had those establishments, which is, I believe you once called it a fast casual antibiotic restaurant. The City m D and Urgent Care, they'll just push

you on another Z pax. So they put me on TWOSI packs in a row, and I thought I thought I was gluten and tarrent. I thought something happened to me. My body just changed. And so I said to Bow and I was like, that was the rest from where that would happen. And you told me that after I had taken a long visit. That was a true moment. I did feel connected because I looked down at the toilet, I said, Matt has really used this plumbing. I have a lot of formative memories there. And I want to

shout out Amber who was our waitress? Who was She was the only one on the floor, okay, and you know it was a gorgeous day in Brooklyn and so the place was and she took care of us. We had to crab Royals. I was doing my crab cracking for you guys. I was really using my skills everybody. Matt picked up a claw and said, this is a dungeness. It's my favorite crab. He demoed crab cracking. It was so cool. I was like, I'm at the museum. So that was great. And then we went to ship. Oh

that was great. And I made it halfway through the course before I started sobbing. Yeah. Yeah, she's still going through it, everybody. Yeah, So you know what that happened was we started got together to view film this morning and potentially connected to in just a second, who has just heard about both of our noxious ships. It's actually always how I dreamed I would meet Allison Bury. I think it's level setting a really honest candor for the rest of the episode and a friendship. Well, you know

what's funny I truly believe this. I actually saw Alison Bury about five years ago at Griffith Park and I literally was like, but I'm not going to go up now and say I'm a fan, because I think in like five years time, I'm gonna get on a zoom with her and my best friend is going to talk about when I was over prescribed in abiotics and then I became essentially like a ship monster. So this is actually this is going according to plan. Yes, but it was a fabulous day. I am hungover as a result,

and you're kind of not. I am. I am, but are you hearing about borgs? What's bors? Oh my god, Borgs are sweeping the nation's college campuses. It's b O r G stands for blackout Rage gallon and this is the recipe. You fill a milk jug like like a gallon container with half water, half vodka. Then you put electrolyte mix in it like a like a liquid ivy or like whatever you want, like something that has no You think I would have don you borg? Okay, Becca, producer,

Becca Thing, it's crazy. They're their own jungle juice jugs exactly, but you make but it's this is the thing they're hangover proof because you put in water, you put an electrolyte, mix some sort of caffeine in it as well. I think they are truly truly a phenomenon right now, and I am curious to try. Well, that's incredible. I think I'm actually you know what's happening right now. I took three tile and all, and so I'm starting to sweat it out. So this is perfect. This is all good.

But listen, what I was saying was, we were watching a film this morning. The film is called Somebody I Used to Know and it's on Amazon Prime now you can stream it, stream it. So this movie we loved. It's vivid, it puts you in it. But and I were saying, we love the term the turn is, and there is a turn in this movie that you don't see coming. We love the term going into Act three is structurally about where we can plot it. That's the

coordinates of it. There's a turn in the movie between our guests character Ali and this man that she's been pining for. It's in a bedroom, and that's that's all we'll say. But it is masterfully executed. And we thank you for joining us here on the script Notes podcast. This is script Notes. I'm John August, but no, I mean Bow And how huge is today? This is amazing? Today, this is amazing. We have loved our guests since the beginning.

You know, we're from being incredible talent. Oh my goodness, legendary. Let's just say this. One of the most iconic characters in television history. For me is true true to Campbell. And something I say often to people who cross me is you'll say anything to hurt me. And that's that's I think praise. I think we're both truies. We we wish we were peggies, but I think we're both truties. Is that because you and I are at all times ready to whip out a choreograph, dance on an event. Yes,

and I'm holding my gloves always. I mean, listen, just happiest season it's been me round community, iconic girl, I mean, on and on and on. Just let's go. Such an amazing, amazing actor, writer, producer. We're so excited. Please welcome Alson. Oh my god, what an introduction. Me so flattered. I am so excited to be here. I have to tell you both for the first time ever. I'm such a fan of both of you. I am a huge fan of the pod. I am like a Fire Island super fan.

We then the fire Land came out, no exaggeration, I watched three times, once per day day. I watched it Friday night. It was like, oh my god, it's outta watching Friday night by myself. My husband is out doing something. Saturday morning he was out again. I was sort of like having like a lazy morning. It was like, I want something cozy. I'm don't put on Fire Island. I'll start it. I'll just start it again. Sunday went for a walk with my husband and he was like, oh

my god, you watched Fire Island twice. He was which that day lying through this and he was like, well, I have to watch it. What am I going to watch it now? And I was like, I'll watch it again with you tonight. And it's a good Sunday movie. I think it's a great Friday night movie. It's a great Sunday movie. It's honestly a great time, anytime movie. And it's truly one of my favorite movies of last year,

if not my most favorite. And I also have I've been talking about it a lot on this press tour because everybody's like, anytime you do a rom com, people are like, yeah, has the rom come back? And I'm like, yeah, did anyone see Sucking Fire Islands? So, Matt, I want you to know that in my senior year of high school production of Pride and Prejudice, I played Lydia. So

I was really connecting to your energy. There's two lads in the chat, and I really identify with that character as well and doing like coming in, oh my god, yeah, coming in with like kind of obnoxious energy and like needing attention and you know, prior to Dave, like just going after the wrong guys too impulsively. The way art imitates life, I'll say that our life imitates art. It's both.

But um, you know what's funny is like when it was like announced that I is going to be playing like the Lydia comp, everyone like on Twitter was like, oh, Matt is of course Lydia is the only Lydy. I was like, okay, everyone, yeah, I can say it, but you can't say exactly. Also, Matt, I love I love that for you when you when you mentioned it in an article and that was so you mentioned I love

that for you really moved. That was so nice. I am leading the Andrea Riseboro style grassroots campaigning to get a second season for I love that for you. Yeah, at all things for Matt. I mean, listen, put that energy out there. And speaking of Aiden my Arie this film, I'm obsessed with Aiden. And Dave worked with her on After Party that the Limited Street and here's the trajectory. Dave works with her on that and was like, she's

so funny, she's the best. Then jaf Bana and I asked her to be in and then I got to experience firsthand what a fucking dream she is. She's incredible and truly spins comedy out of very little, you know, like and then Dave and I were just like, can you just can we just roll this along and you'll come do our movie also, And I adore her. She's the best. I mean, there's a moment where she's great, just like throwing throwing it away, but it has high impact.

There's like a moment on the in the movie where your character tells her to do something that's very surprising and she just goes, wait what, and it's just it's very Aiden. It's very high impact. She's on a hike or something she's like, what what it's great. Like of Aiden's role in this movie, Somebody Used to Know is over FaceTime, and she still gets some of the biggest

laughs in the movie. My favorite is there's a scene where she's like emotional on the phone and crying and I'm like, Okay, I gotta go and while she's you, just her voice go, yeah, I have to go to that's just you're improvising. I don't know. I just love her so much and I love you guys so much, and also your sisters with our sister Betty, I mean my soulmate, Betty Gilfin. I love Betty so much. We talk every day. I love you. Oh my god? That

is that glow? Is really this show that like I don't think really portrayed a female former friendship turn to We'll be back into friendship? Like that is that art was so perfectly calibrated between you two and you guys were so good at it. I thank you so much. I loved it. I always felt Betty and I would always be like the main love story of this show is between these two women, and that's always what the

show was going to be about. And like, of course Marin is great and there's like will they won't they? With that going on, But like the heart of the whole show was these two women, and I loved it. I love how they tapped. I mean it's because the show was made by so many incredible women like our showers. Lez Le Hiv and Carl Menh were so great and like so smart. Their playwrights there, the writing was so

nuanced and cool. But also they just let us do everything, like we'd be having It's one scene, we'd be shooting some crazy screaming match, sobbing, and then we'd be in the ring and I'd be like, you smell like but to me, I'd be like rubbing my crotch. They really let us improvise in the ring, which was fun. Have you kept up with your wrestling. I haven't kept up with my wrestling, per see, but I keep up with my strength. I mean I'm super strong. I'm super strong

at Did you always identify as strong? Oh my god? Not always, like as a kid, not athletic at all, like drama nerd in high school, not athletic at all. And then and but I've been training with I have this great trainer that I've been training with for probably like ten years, but sort of more more casually when I started doing glows, right, okay, let's up the anti.

Like we did our stunts on that show, Like we actually lifted each other and through each other and did all this stuff and it felt so powerful and great. So I feel like that clicked everything up a notch and then it just felt really good. So I just stayed have stayed kept up with it for mental health and all the reasons. That's perfect. Yeah, I love it

because that was a show. I think Betty was talking about how that show would really just psychically take some sort of expenditure too, because you are just like throwing people down for multiple takes over and over again, Like that has to have some benefit as well as like psychic challenge to it, you know, totally. It's like we would shoot these wrestling matches for hours. You know, if you watch a wrestling match on TV or live, and those guys are insane like and women like the craziest,

most amazing athletes. They're like acrobats and I don't know, they're crazy, I mean crazy, but you know their matches are like eleven minutes, and then we would just shoot one for like eight hours and everyone thinks the ring was like padded, which it was not, although sometimes we would do some of the big moves onto a pad because when you're doing it twenty times, you're sort of like, I gotta protect my body. But people always asked if

we if we got hurt. There were like a few minor injuries on the show, but for the most part, I would be like, I never got hurt, but it hurts.

Like the day after we would shot, I felt like I was in a car accident, you know, totally, And even shooting it, even just in front of a crowd who are background actors that are paid to be there, still was really exciting and you could feel them even being kind of shocked, because like our stunt bubles would get in show everybody the choreography and rehearse and like they would get to see them do it, and then it'd be time to shoot it and we would come

in and do it, and you could feel the background being like, oh, ship, you're going to do it, and then we were like we're like God, like that's my girl flipping in the air and being slammed down like it truly was. I wasn't really like a w w F person, I don't just like it was a phenomenon when when I was growing up. But did you guys like partake in any of like the watching of the WWF, Like did you know what the rock was cooking or

smell with the rock was cooking? Rather, I mean, I hate to admit that not really like prior to doing Glows. You're right, it was. It's so it was huge. It's like so worldwide popular and somehow still sort of niche, like obviously of it, but I never really watched it. And then you know, when I read the show, when I read the pilot, I went back and watched a bunch of the original Glow, which those wild because they're

wrestling and they're doing sketches and they're like wild. But then once we were working on Glow, we went to some big w w E raw matches like at the Staple Center downtown and got to sit in the front row and watch these people and then and it's so cool to watch having like a better idea of it because our coach, Chado Gero Jr. Was a real wrestler and taught us all the inside stuff, Like fuck people who think that wrestling is quote unquote fake because I

watched a guy overshoot a jump and knock out his front to teeth and continue wrestling for like eight more minutes. Like it is Oh my god. Yeah, he went. They didn't fully come out. They like went up into his gums, his front two teeth, like up into his He had blood streaming on his face. He got out of it well,

first he hit it and fell. I thought that looked too real, Like normally when they fall they do a big cell right of like ah, and he just silently like and then blood started pouring out of his mouth down his body and he ate a tag tea back, so he like tagged his partner and got out standing right in front of us. I heard him yelled to the medic, they're in there. Oh my god. It's like slapped him in the face, sent him back in the room. By the end of it, everyone was covered in blood,

and I was like, I'm obsessed with this. This is the coolest thing I've ever seen. Oh my god. Wasn't just that we were like all took up a full front row. It was so fun. I mean, I feel like you live the dream of working with um a nice circle of people because it's like, and it's been in multiple things with you. I feel like you've been in multiple things with Aubrey Plaza Molly. Yes, I meant to say Molly earlier when the Crossover, the Crossover. I'm

obsessed with Molly. We've Molly and I've been live like four movies together. Oh yeah, Promising Young Woman too, Oh my god, yes, okay, wait, Promising a Woman's been me around horse Girl, um, the other movie Little Hours, Little Hours. Molly and I are like and Aubrey, We're all like the Jeff Bena players that have all been in like four out to five of his movies and a Door Molly. Oh my god. Molly's energy. Molly, she's the best. What I love about her is like when she gets on set,

what I love is just watching her her process. I feel like she really loves to like physically orient herself, like she that's like her way in. You can tell it's like she's like, well, you know, I feel like you know my arms. Yeah, she's like and she's like kind of getting her own body. And it's so what with her. It's really hard to talk to her without talking like her. Like sometimes I always I'm like Molly. Isn't that funny? Don't you think that's funny? Because that's yeah,

that's so funny. I love that Molly's enthusiasm is totally real and like, but she'll you'll be telling a story and it'll come in like to like you'll be like, oh my god, Molly, I have to tell you a story, and she'll be like what what. We'll be like, oh my god, so yesterday, like yesterday I was at the supermarket and she'll be like, you work, and you're like, yeah, but that's not that's not I'm just the setup. That's not like the funny. I don't know. It's so cool

that you were there. Oh my god, which market? You're at the market? I love going to the market. Tell me, I'm glad that you said that. About getting to work with great people, I think it's a big part of why I've been making my own work more and more. Like Horse Girls, somebody used to know are the three films that I've written and produced, And it's great to be on that side of it. Getting to put people together.

I mean, when Dave and I were putting this movie together, we definitely were just like, we just want to hang out. With our friends and also with people that are good people. Like we wanted them to be super talented, of course, but there are so many talented people in the world. How About there's no assholes. How About we just get glad to people that are like also really good fun people, and then the whole energy on set is going to

be fun and positive. And it really was. It felt like a wedding weekend because you guys, would you guys shoot in Washington in in like the bulk of the

movie in Oregon kind of in and around. We had so we had shot Dave's directorial debut the Rental up in Oregon kind of on the Oregon coast, and then we finished it doing I don't know, five days in Portland, and we sort of set this movie in the Pacific Northwest just to get back up to Portland because it's such a great the people are great, the food is excellent, it's like an amazing music scene, all of that stuff

um and beautiful. So we said it in loving Worth, Leavenworth, Washington. Uh, and we just shot like our last three days up in Washington in Leavenworth, which is actually looks like Christmas all the time. And is this like Bavarian style. I was like, where is this? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It's real. It's so beautiful. It's one of those towns this movie like where it looks like you could like eat the like the building, like every building is a

gingerbread house. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of that that vibe of like it's so idyllic and there's always just like a gorgeous mountain and then all of a sudden, there tubing in the river. I'm like, okay, where because I've been thinking, like you know, when you get to whenever you're going through your downs in life, you're like, I have to get away. And the where I've been picturing in my head to go recharge is literally what was in that movie, like totally nature. I mean, first of all,

it just adds to production value. Also because you turn the camera any direction and you're just like, oh my god. But I hadn't thought about it when we were writing it, but we wrote it during COVID lockdown in and I part of me does wonder if kind of what you're saying, it was like us writing our fantasy of like and then we'll be tubing down a river and then we'll be at a reindeer farm like out in life. It felt like such a fantasy. Of course, by the time

we shot the movie was fucking freezing. We were like, and then they're like action and you stopped everything from chattering, and your little lady a folds up inside your body and you deliver. And Haley Joel went right in the river. So that had to be very cold for Haley. You had to go all the way in, but we put him in like sort of a full wet suit. It did he That was real commitment. Haley Joel is incredible, Liken.

He fully commiting. You know. We wrote in that the character was doing the worm that one scene and then we'd never even talked to him about it, and like the day before we were like, oh, Haley, um, can you do a word? We never asked, but we could maybe put a different dance move if there was something else. And he was like, I've been watching videos online and practicing in my hotel room and I taught myself yesterday and I think it's gonna be great. And he does

such a good job. And he actually dislocated his hip so many times for so long. I know, a poor guy, but he's okay, Oscar nominee, Oscar nominee. I mean never forget no. I mean that is so fun to get a dislocated because you think, like it's like, oh, what project did you injure yourself on? What project did you injure your hip on? Dislocated your hip? Somebody I used to know. Yeah, the most physical role of my career, that action movie Somebody I used to know Willis and

Allison brief set. You know, people are getting bumped and bruised. You gotta go full in. Physical physicality is important to me. She saw a wrestler have their teeth go up and there right. I've heard you talk about how we'll first been me around spoiler. There's this big, crazy orgy scene. That's all we'll say. But like, I remember you talked about that scene in an interview. You were like it was shocking to like show up to set that day even though I wrote this, yeah, this thing the set piece.

But it's like it's I think it's so cool that you get to honor the process of writing it separate, but you're not like thinking ahead, and I think that's good. I think that doesn't hamper the writing process itself because then like you would just limit yourself as you're coming up with ideas or as you're putting words on paper, right, sure, totally. I mean it always fascinates me. I mean, and I'm so new to writing and just have done these movies over the last like five years, I think, and it

amazes me all the modes of the process. Like when you're writing it, you were you're visualizing something, right, you feel like, Okay, I have this clear vision. And all three movies that I've written were then directed by the person that I wrote them with, you know, so you're sort of like, yeah, we're locked in on kind of what this looks like. And then you cast it. You get to set and all the actors are bringing their perspectives and that's really fun and opens it up in

a cool way of even stuff. You know, the way each actor thinks about their own character is going to be so much more specific to them and and nuanced in a way than even we've been thinking about the characters while writing them. So I kind of always love that that watching the actors bring stuff in and ask questions that you're like, oh, I never even thought about that that way, Like yeah, and then watching things come

about like, yeah, that orgy scene, it's funny. Well it's also it was just so jarring, like to see so many a room full of so many naked people, like faking sex acts specifically is a jarring thing to to witness in person. And on the one hand, it was so like beautiful because all of these Italian background actors just were so joyous and like having a great time.

We cast all um couples like they're all they were all real life couples, like everyone interacting together already knew each other, um, and we're like comfortable with what they were doing. And we basically said just do whatever you feel comfortable. Like we didn't go around to each couple and be like you'll be relating him and he'll be

taking it from behind. You know. We were sort of like we kind of put dealers choice, except that like you guys have to be standing, you guys have to be on the couch whenever you come up with great and everybody was still comfortable really going forward in ways that I was like whoa, um, which it was. It was so much to take in, and I felt very grateful that everybody was kind of giving us they're all

in a way. And the funny thing to think about is actually that by the time we were shooting that scene, it was so toned down from like the original draft

when Jeff and I are just really fucking around. Well, there were some really specific things we wrote that then, even when it just came time to like send the script out to actors, like I actually the role that aid and played, there was a line in the stage directions early on that was like so and so like pops out from eating his asshole and said blah blah blah, and like truly, as we went to send it out, we were like, you know, maybe we'll just make that

a little more vague. Let's rimming, not eating his asshole. But I do appreciate that on the page it said eating his asshole, eating his asshole. But then, like, you don't realize when you're writing something that if you write down eating his asshole, you will get a call from someone who's like, so, what are you thinking about for the asshole? Do you think we see it? Do you like?

It is a call? It's a call. It's it's also like a call from someone's manager being like, um, we want to talk about the Yeah, like what exactly are you hoping to show um? And then exactly all the stuff of like, so should we place a fake asshole over a real asshole? Are you hoping to see whole? And we're like, we don't need to people, we don't

need to see whole. Um. I actually saw on the scene that got cut from this movie I did years ago called Sleeping with Other People that Leslie Headland directed and such a fun movie. So in the movie my it's like me and Jason Sidekis. It's kind of like a play on one hearing at Sally like we're not going to have sex with each other and just be friends and more than we're having sex realized those people. And my character has this like sexually obsessive relationship with

Adam Scott, who's this like sort of sociopathic doctor. And I cut there's a scene where I come to his office and we have sex on his desk, and at the start of that scene we're make king out. Then he like flips me around, bends me over the desk, pulls my skirt up, pulls my underwear down in the stage directions, goes down on me from behind. Then So two things. One the day that we shot that scene.

The cameras doing this move around the front of the desk, so you're not seeing it's like you see from the side. Maybe you see a little of my pass as you see what's going on. Then it pans around to the front, so it's just on my face as he goes down behind me. And it was so hot on this stage that we were, which is such a nightmare. You're like so sweaty and gross, being like it's going to be like in my butt cheeks. Um. So I had like nude underwear on a nude thong under like my Lacy

character costume thong. The idea was like the thong would get pulled down, but the underwear underneath would stay on to did three takes total. The first two takes everything stayed where it was supposed to. The third take everything came off and things just proceed. Obviously, you know, Adam Scott's not getting touching fully and think it's more like forehead to cheeks, you know, and in my face. I don't know what happened, but Leslie Hedlyn comes running in

and she's like, well that was the one. Oh my god, it seems I've heard of this happening, Like I have a friend. I won't say who because he's not sharing the story, but I will share it for him anonymously. He was doing a sex scene with an actor that he had kind of been like flirty with. Um And there was a long day because like it was like

an involved sex scene. You're getting multiple angles. Yeah, And so ultimately, like a third of the way into shooting it, things like because I've only worn this one's actually in Fire Island. It's that like weird little cock sock. And then there's the there's the strip that goes over your whole.

It's like like a tape that sticks to like the top of your ass, so that they have And then a thing they had this for women where it more just you tape it kind of above your pubic hare in the front, and then it goes all the way around and there's like a little heart that tapes above your button. It's a little heart, yes, And it's actually adorable. It's super romantic. It is nice, it's cute. I kept it. Can you imagine? I reused mine on every job. I

have the same one. It's a security blanket. Um No, but this guy was saying that like it was like a third of the way through them shooting this and it was falling off and the other actor who again like I think that ended up sucking. Afterwards, it was like, I think we should just not I think we should just get rid of it, and and the guy was

like okay. So then they literally just shot that pretty much like kind of not doing it, but like not not not not smushing generally they were smushed right, not insertion,

but like smushing was happening. It was frauding. We're gonna say they fraud I get that those little things like you always end up sweating them off because you're so nervous, like you you have all this adrenaline from shooting a kind of scene and even and I'm like so comfortable clearly with nudity and even with scenes like that, Like I actually always think it's funny how embarrassed actors get about it. And I'm kind of like, whatever, just another

scene who cares. Like the stakes feel to me just as high as like a super dramatic scene where I want all the emotions to flow perfectly, like a sex scene. But the last thing I'll say about the Leslie Headland movie Adam Scott scene is then they cut that heart out anyway, because everybody thought he was eating my asshole and apparently audiences did not like not. They had very strong negative reaction. Is this I'm about to ask to

me getting rid? Of course, I'm asking a silly question. Potentially, Was there was this before intimacy coordinators like, was this a time when they were on set? Okay, way before? Yeah, I mean intimacy coordinators are so like, we didn't have one on Glow until our third really yeah. And then, of course I had already shot my most graphics sex scenes like season on the pilot Sweetie Sweet Guy, which actually would make me a little nervous. It was my

first time doing like full nudity. And then they were like, oh, we test Rich and I was like, oh great, that's so nice. It's the person I know. A second later, I was like, yeah, I mean, I think he'd be comfortable with me saying this at this point. But the guy I was doing the sex scene within Fire Island, Zane, we were dating at the time, and it and it made it a little weird, weirder because there's layers, you

know what I mean. And then like I remember the intimacy coordinator came in and I've shared this on the podcast, but my involuntary response to some questions she was asking, I started crying. I was really nervous, and also that way it was like this the content of the scene was you know, it was edgy, and you know it was very complicated and your character gets taken advantage of and you're unaware that this other thing and it was weird. It was like, it's very that thing you were saying.

She was like, how are you feeling about the scene. I was like, you know, I can't wait. Let's do it right, Let's just get do it. I heard it's like fight Corey, all right. It's like very blocking. It's like and then she goes right, and then she goes, wow, do you think your character feels about the scene. I'm so sorry, and I was very I feel like I have to honor this emotion and I'm sobbing and I love that. I literally asked her. I was like, do

people do this, like do they break down? She goes, it happens way more than you think and people wouldn't have but it makes sense. See, I feel like it's like crazy to think that we didn't have intimacy coordinators first so long, because it's so nice to have another

person there to talk to all this stuff. Although as I say that, I I've maybe never worked with one because I just I would always I'm too comfortable, you know, uncle, because it was mostly on Glow, where by the third season of Glow, I was so tapped back into my true nature, which is loving nudity and being really open about that stuff. And it kind of became a running joke where they kept asking me if I wanted the intimacy coordinator, but for scenes that I was doing by myself,

like no joke. There was a masturbation scene that actually ended up getting cut. Also, these audiences need to stop reacting negative to you getting your nut? Can they let me get my nut? But it made me laugh that the scene was like me and a T shirt and shorts getting under a comforter, putting my hand out the comforter, totally alone, and they were like, do you want to do you want to see the intimacy coordinator? I was like, I don't know to cordeograph my own like hand and myself. No,

I'm okay to do it for myself. There was on on horse Girl, and I guess horse Girl was sort of pre intimacy coordinator right before. Yeah, and but but I felt like I had an awareness because I had written that and I was a producer on it. I was really taking all that stuff so seriously. And I became your own coordinator essentially, which was strange because we shoot this super like that's the weirdest sex scene I've

ever shot. It's like a dream sequence sex scene with these two different actors, John Reynolds who plays my levity, Matthew Gray Googler. We've known John for years. John was like a Brooklyn comedy boy with us, like we've known him for years and years and years. So funny, such a he's so good. He's so funny, and he's very like channeling like young Judge Reinhold, and sure there is something, yeah, that's great. There is something like fast vintage. I hate

that words. Yes, it's fast times. It's like I've always try to put my finger on him because he's amazing and search party and there is this like nice I don't know, like patina to him. He's so lovable and he has kind of like a breathiness, you know, it's like that he would fit right into that, Yes, totally.

But it was so funny to me to like, I'm the person then taking him aside to be like, Okay, so in this scene that we've just rehearsed, you know you're gonna unzip the back of this suit, and I just want to make sure that you know that when you pull the suit off of me, I'm not wearing a bra underneath, and you'll see my my breast and at that time, if you feel comfortable, I think you could put a hand on my breast and I would feel comfortable with that if you feel comfortable with it,

but also you absolutely don't have to, and he would just be like, yeah, I feel comfortable with um. But the way, are we talking too much about sex scenes? Please tell the readers are going to be reading the close reading this all that we're going to talk about. But I didn't realize how many great stories I have about that. So on Horse Girls, So the scene is it's like becomes a dream sequence right where it's me

and John Reynolds were kissing. The way we wrote it is sort of like they sort of start to have sex and then he turns into Matthew Greg Googler who's playing like my favorite actor on a TV show that my character watches, and now we're in this dream sequence

and then a bunch of other weird stuff happens. So we had planned this elaborate camera move, and then of course immediately on the day realized that like we don't have a budget too, Like we're like, oh, yeah, we don't have a crane that's gonna like pan over this actor's back, like we were going to pan over their back. So it was like, well, we'll shoot with one actor, we'll all take a break, we'll shoot with the other actor, and we'll just hide that it looks like one shot

but it's not really. So then of course on the day were like, oh, we can't do that. It has to be one shot. So Jeff Bey, know who's directing, is like, okay, figure out how we can do it. He goes, we're gonna push in on you guys on the bed like you're laying. We're gonna do a Cowboys switch pushing, so we're tight on you and John Reynolds will get all the way close up on your faces. He'll kiss down your body, then Matthew will kiss and you'll like do the rest of the sex seemed to completion,

so we start to rehearse it. We start to realize, like, okay, so they both have to be in the room at the same time. Not only that, but you can tell when if one of them gets off the bed for the switch the whole bed, So that's off the table. Everyone has to stay on the bed. So it's a closed set. We've got Jeff Beans with a monitor in the room with us, and just like the camera guy and the focus puller, that's it, and me and these two guys, I'm topless. Here's what would happen. They would

both start on the bed. Matthew's off camera, but his hand is on John's back like ready to tap in. Done my body, Oh my god. Then John would lean against the wall like a child who's traumatized, puck his knees into his chest like avert his eyes, and me and Googler like finished faking sex through an orgasm. It is the craziest. I was, like, I've done sex scenes with people before, but never in front of my other

love interest like simultaneously. And Jeff is in the room queuing everything because it's all timed off the caather, so it's like it's like a close set with nobody around. Great, everyone's comfortable and cool, and Jeff's they're going John down Matthew in Finish Like it was like it was just the wet down in Finished Down and finished Classic Down in Finish Classics. So I'm brought to pivot to this movie. I'm proud that all the nudity this movie is non

sexual nudity, which I'm very into. I want to talk about this before we ask the question bringing this up like just being a celebration. I really really loved how nudity in the so um. Not to give away too much, but it is through this nudism theme and sort of like character trait in this person who But it's so delicately, like the crumbs are left so nicely for the audience, like you hear it once in the beginning, and then it just all kind of organically beautifully unfolds and it

just ends in such a nice, earned way. And I didn't realize that this was part of your own personal journey that like you kind of have this engagement with I guess nudity or maybe even nudism as a thing. Is that fair to say? Yeah? I mean more nudity and not nudism. I've really never been to a place. It's not because I've been talking a lot about my

my college like pension for nudity. But it wasn't like I was like going to class naked and just like make it all the naked guy, which we did have the naked guy who was like at every school function in tennis shoes in a necklace. So the origin story is that I went to cal Arts for college and while I was there, um, clothing was optional everywhere but the cafeteria. That was the policy. And actually I was really respectful because I want also, it's a great school.

I got education, and I always want to be like I don't know if it's that way now. This was like twenty years ago. Um, but I was doing these interviews and the other day in the middle of some junket, the like sound guy was like, I actually know someone who teaches it right now, and it's the that's still the policy. Um. I love that because it was always just about it's an art school. Okay, so they have every dance, fine art, painting, graphic design, film music, all

that stuff. So like it was more about I think letting the students just have full free them of expression. Yeah, and it was not uncommon to see somebody doing some art installation on your walk across the campus where they're naked and they're painting their body and chocolate or something like that. And there were big parties, like the Halloween

Party was a big deal at cal Arts. Even my freshman year that had a springtime party called the Erotic Ball that then got canceled for being too risks, and that was a lot of people going in. You would just wear pasties and underwear and like boots, you know what I mean. Like, and I would streak from time to time and my friends laugh, and I like to streak.

And I just liked the whole culture of that openness and kind of like my character in the movie, I feel like I had this journey with nudism and in my own comfortability with nudity. Like when I first started acting on camera in this industry, I was got really afraid of doing nudity on camera, and I'm glad. I sort of was like, I'm open to doing it, but it has to be the righting. So like early on in my career, when I was doing like the horror movies,

or whatever. You know, I was like, no, I'm not going to pop into that show and just be like the topless girl that had two lines on that HBO show or whatever. Yeah, Betty talks about that concept in her book too, and I think that's so interesting, like through an actress's perspective, like like being able to finally even know the difference between like what feels like what's being commodified and what feel feels like freedom and what feels like your choice and what feels like their choice.

You know, totally yes, and you have to think about Ike feel like I'm making myself sounds so old. But like in the time that I was at cal Arts even to then working on community, Uh, we witnessed like the birth of Twitter and things like that, like that didn't even exist like when I was in college from two thousand one to two thousand five, Like people had flip phones. People were not so Like even the nudity at cal Arts was it was protected it. It's just

for us. No One's gonna pull out their phone and film me. I mean I did probably take some I don't know photos exist from like the photography, but uh, which is the thing. I feel like, actually those probably

would have surfaced by now if they existed. Um, But like I think there was this knee jerk reaction to the internet right of me being like, oh wait, like you know, I knew a friend of mine who did nudity in a movie, and now the screen grab from that was in an issue of Playboy, and they're allowed to do that legally because it's not your property now that it's in that movie. Like all that stuff really

scared me. And I also think it was also a time in my life where I was hating my body, Like I do think that was part of it too. I was protecting myself by being like, I don't want to do nudity for the wrong thing, because I also just felt unattracted. You know, there's nothing like uh, starting a career on camera to like make you hate yourself and the way you look. Don't get it started breakdown every time I see everything for the first time complete men.

So I had to really wag through that for years and kind of felt, yeah, really protected and really like I don't want to do some nudity in something and people just don't even have to watch the thing, like they can just google it whatever, Like I'm not doing it for those people. It's about the arts, blah blah blah. So then cut to Glow and when I read the pilot for Glow to audition for that show, they had a big all caps announcement that was like, must be

comfortable doing nudity for all of the women on the show. Everybody. It was like, which I appreciated, very upfront about it from the beginning, like this is a non negotiable for

this show. And by like my you know, auditioned maybe four times for that part, and by like after maybe the first two auditions, as I was starting to really test for the role, is when that conversation came in with my whole team kind of calling me to be like, hey, this is the point where they really want to make sure that you know that you are gonna have to get Nick on the show, and they want you to know that you're comfortable with because I don't want to

do more auditions if you're not okay with it. And I asked if I could get on the phone with Liz and Carly are our showrunners, and talk to them about it. They were like absolutely yeah, and I'm more just honestly, I read the pilot it was so fucking good and I got it and I felt like it

all made sense. And I already really didn't have a problem with the nudity, but it was so nice and refreshing to talk to them and have them say, look, this is a show about women's bodies in every way that we can explore that, and we just want the freedom to show women changing in the locker room and to show women having sex and everything in between and not shy away from it. And we're never going to exploit you. We're never going to do it in a way that is male, gay zy or anything like that.

And then I feel like working on Glow kind of reconnected. Like as soon as I did that first naked sex scene in that first episode, I was like, oh, yeah, I love being naked, love my body. That's empowering. It really was. And by the season three there's a scene where it's me and Betty and you know, we're in Las Vegas, and I have this scene where I like put on a show girl headdress and take my top off and do this like toplet dance to make Betty laugh.

And I actually watched that episode with my mom, and my mom was like that's my alley, Like, that's you, that's your energy. Like it was such a relief to be like, yeah, is my natural energy. So I feel like that journey is in this movie. Like and by the way, already this morning on Twitter, I saw someone turning the topless just into a meme a jif. I mean. That's the weird part about the streamers of it all, too though, is people like they can just like scroll

on the bottom with scary movies. I do this sometimes, like I'll just scroll through the whole thing to see when something scary is going to happen or like whatever. But people can treat streamers that have nudity like that, you know, in that weird way, which is another weird thing about now versus then, Right, but in a way I think. And I also even had these conversations with Jeff Beina because I did you know some new scenes in Horror Girl and he was like, I don't know.

I sort of he sort of led me back to even being like, well, don't give those people the power to change fundamentally who you are and how you feel about this kind of thing, Like none of us can control what I can. Creepy people on the internet doing or saying and I don't even want to think about it or tap into it at all. I got to just live, like by choosing, I guess to be in this industry in any way we part of us goes.

I'm going to have to be okay with people saying whatever the funk they want, and I'll go about my business in a way that's true to me and that's the best I can do. And they'll just try not to look at any of that stuff ever and live my life and everything's fine. Yeah, right, but thank God

for glow. I mean, there's nothing like you being comfortable with being naked around other women in a very protected environment and doing it, you know, maybe not over and over again, but like feeling safe for that long is enough to deprogram all of that ship in your head from before. And that's that's amazing, Like I I hope I wish that for everybody. Yeah, totally. It was very

safe feeling. And then you get to the point where like now now it's like you were saying, you're kind of like assembling your own people, so you're creating your own healthy atmosphere, and that's like, you know, that's that's something that you've obviously earned in your career, and that's like a really kind of cool place to be able

to imagine. That's just it's so the difference between being on a set we're even one person toxic and I'm certain you've been there, Okay, Like that's the cool thing about I would imagine, like being the writer, producer and know Dave being the director, is that you guys are obviously on the same page, not only in your life, but now you can be professionally too, and that's just a gift to everything totally. Well, that's what I was

gonna say. I mean, have many thoughts on that, but first of all, on something like this when the director is my husband too, it's like I know that I am safe is the right word I think and Dave. I felt this way on the rental, which I have had no nudity or sex scenes or anything in that. But like working with Dave, the set is such a safe space for actors because he's an actor. Yes, he

understands the actor's psyche. He wants everyone to feel comfortable and collaborated with, and everyone has a voice, and he's going to check in with everybody to make sure that they feel good. And then also he has amazing taste, Like he makes really beautiful things. He's never going to leave something in that feels false or is un flattering

to a person's performance or anything like that. It's the beautiful thing of working with Dave is like the safety I feel just knowing that the product itself is going to be amazing because I know what a strong vision he has for everything. But also in spirit, Dave and I are the same, which is we love being on a set. We wanted to all be positive and fun and like everyone's having a great time and feel supported and seen and all that ye stuff. So it's great.

I will say whenever I'm on a set with there's something about having the one villain on a set that that the only silver lining to that is it unites everybody else. Yes, you have the common enemy. And I

don't know, do you feel this way? Like I also feel like my behavior gets better when you watch someone just being like such a selfish jerk, right that you have a sense of that, Like you maybe you come in and you're like, oh my god, I hate what they're trying to put me in today, and then you watch someone have like a full toxic meltdown about some costume and you go like, I'm fine with it. I don't. It's actually not that we have to ask you the question,

because the question is the centerpiece of the show. We must know and the readers have to read about this. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Okay? Oh my god. Guys gone around around and around in circles on this one, because I just feel like the answer for me could go a million directions.

There were so many feeling that yes, but you know you referenced John Hughes earlier, and I'm going to actually say, trying to think of like the earliest spark of things, I'm going to say it was watching Ferris Bueler's Day Off on HBO. Like I'm not that Like I was probably like three years old when Ferris Bueler came out. It's not like I was like seeing it in the theater or anything like that. Like HBO in the late eighties early nineties is my jam. I would just come

home from school and put cable on. We had sucking HBO watch everything. But like my earliest memories of even wanting to be a performer, like as a kid, I was such a ham and always kind of like maybe like ceping on little performances for my parents and our

neighbors and things like that. And I vividly remember me and my sister and our couple little friends would re enact this scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off where the principal gets to the house and the sister gets to the house at the same time, and they both think that they've caught Ferris Bueller, but neither of them does,

and the scene goes like this. They're they're on either side of the kitchen door, and they huge each other and one of them goes Fairest and the other one goes Bueller, and then one jumps out and goes and the other one jumps out and goes yeah, and then she goes it kicks him in the face utes times

it's like she goes running upstairs. We would replay like turns playing either role, acting it out, showing it in front of our parents, and then I feel like we spun that off into doing SNL style sketches for our parents. Like that was just it was just part of like, Oh, I love performing. I'm gonna say this exactly the way she said it. We're going to react it, you know, like the Cadence the same I'm gonna kick my leg

at the same. It was like the way that people like dub smash stuff now, but we didn't have any of that technology. We would just have to rewind and like play the video again. I mean on HBO we couldn't rewind. So I guess that's my answer for now. But runners up include Yes, let's hear them. Runners up include early seasons of the Real World on MTV. Watched the first couple of seasons that we're probably so boring

docu drama. Yeah, oh my god, people in a bath talk about being bisexual for an hour, Like you know, it was just like it was truly just people sitting around talking, but loved it. Also possibly controversial, The Rose o'donald Show. Not controversial. Major friend and I we used to my best friend from elementary school. We would like

write letters into the Rosy o'donald Show. And I feel like her sort of like fake obsession with Tom Cruise, Like we were too little to know that there was like a closeted thing happening and we were just like she loves Tom Cruise. We love Tom cruise like it was the era of Cutie Patty. It was of the couch balls, it was John mcdee, it was it was big k A thing about Rosie show, which I loved, was it kind of was it felt like a late

night show in the day. Yeah. She was for real funny and she like was she was like relaxed and like really, I mean I'm speaking to the audience, but like still kind of doing her thing, you know, I mean I do still kind of love Rosie O'donnald. She's recently been on the l words. She was in the league of their own. She's very she's great. Oh god, and then I just had one other one but now

I forgot it. No, no, no, that's what I meant. Yes, I'm sorry, of course no, no, of course she's in the original, but like she's in the rebo and she's like it's a perfect little way that they like, you know, cameo her, but they give her like a really meaty part. I love that. Also in the original she's like, oh

she's so good, and Rosie is so talented. I mean that's the thing too, is like people forget about like her as like a Broadway like musical theater actress, like that, that obsession that she had with musical theater and with truly like what was happening in New York. Like she truly would be like, Okay, here is an episode of my show where like the guest is I don't know, Julianna Margarie's for someone huge on TV at the time, and the performance at the end is going to be

like subtster. Literally, here's Sutton Foster, here's Lashawn's, here's like something that's happening at La Mama. She would pull something from like off off Broadway experimental stuff, and she'd have people do a song because she jen you and Lee was curating like a show that she liked, and it was like in that way she had to help so much theater and there's no one doing that now. I mean, you know what, That's what I like about Seth Meyers.

He had tight technique on his show. Actually the night I was on and I thought that was so cool, because yeah, it was and I got to do a bit with them, but it's like that was really cool because people don't really shine a light on theater that much anymore, like on those big performs, don't oh my god. Wait sidebar about Daytime TV will make this the quickest.

But Matt, I know that you were on Kelly Clarkson recently and you guys did not sing together, and you were like, I don't want to do that my first time. And I was just on Kelly Clarkson for like, she is the best, and it's so fun to do interviews with her because she's like, you don't even feel like you're on a talk show. She's actually just genuinely talking to you. Like I feel like I didn't tell any of my stories iver heard. I mean I did, but

like you just ended up talking anyway. So the second guest on my episode was Michael Bolton, and he is a huge fan of hers, and they sang together, and you know, I'm sitting there on the couch and I don't know if they kept this in the episode or cut it, but I thought about you. I had talked to her about how I used to have like this cover band and I used to sing. So she's singing

how am I supposed to live without you? With Michael and organizing and belting, and they get to the final notes of the chorus, how am I supposed to carry on? And I come in, I lean in on the couch and just go When no that, Michael Bolton straight turned to me like what the fuck? But tell was like you choice, Oh thank you guys. But I thought I would never in a million years. Like earlier on the couch, we were talking about this cover band and she was like, so you sing, and I was like, we don't ask

me this thing right now. But then I sat there being like what I'm not gonna not gonna take the chance to jump in on one line with Michael Bolton and Kelly Clarkson. Are you that is? I mean, like the thing like she had Pink on the other day and her and Pink like sat and bowen. Did you see this? You would have gagged because she loves Pink and Kelly and Pink are like both like you know, kind of stood the test of time pop stars. But from like back, like I was thinking the other day,

like Pink has been around. Remember the song you make Me Sick? I won't you? And remember that song? And

did you go looking pizza? Oh my god. But like it's like these are old and I was watching these two and they were singing Pinks and they were singing it together and I was like, oh god, like and just just hear how good they are, and you could tell they like I didn't really rehearse, they just intuitively no, Like Kelly is just like I'm just gonna jump on the harmony line and they look each other in the eyes and they just know what to do, what riffs

to do, and it's just like, these are two monsters of voting pro like that's something I could never I could learn a harmony and hit it like with lots of practice. I cannot just hear a harmony and jump in and felt it. That's pretty incredible. I have the ear I can't like execute all the time. But anyone that's not true. And he's also like a counter tenor Bowen has like it comes up through his feet the

pelvic floor of doom. I call him. Oh no, no, no, no, in many ways, Alison, do you remember what vinyls she gave you, what Vinyl Kelly Clarkson gave you. Yes, she gave me the Black Keys? Oh damn you know Bruce Springsteen, which okay, no, no, no, it's just like I don't dislike Bruce Springsteen, like how could you right? Same? No, No, Shade to the Black Key or Kelly, Oh my god, it's definitely not. But I was like, huh, but that

means she thinks cool. She thinks yes, because like black Keys is such like as it's like a swing, but you would only take that swing on like this is a gift for a cool person, you know, a vinyl no matter what, is actually a really chic gift. I think it's such a cool thing to be in the back. I really can't go wrong because it could be decorative, it could be something that you actually play and then like if an artist has made a vinyl of their album, it's probably like it's got to be good, like a

classic thing. We have a record player, and it's nice to add something to the catalog. Might not have thought that. We just have that now and maybe you'll pop it on and be like and also listening to something on vinyl, not as much, but kind of like when you go to see someone in concert, like you're always gonna love it. I mean, I guess it's not the same. It's a ritual,

but it's it's ritualistic like you're going through the steps. Yeah, yeah, my friend came over, Like I guess it was like six seven months ago, and um, he broke my He didn't break it, but like I can't get that. You know, it's a lot of there's a lot of set up with the vinyls the thing, and it's like it's kind of precarious. But I'm going to somehow restore that and get back to playing Casey Musgrave's Golden Hour and no time.

My bummer about vinyl is like that, it's so short, like we're used to play friends, especially when you kind of have someone over to fuck, like low key, like you put the vinyl on and you feel chic and you're like, oh yeah, the records on and then like you're in the middle of the throws and like it stopped to rim and then get like full silence and you're like to hear this. Let me see that. I don't want to hear this. He wants to see rim near the rim? No, No, not eating asshole. You need

a soundtrack to it. People not say eating asshole? Do people not say that? You say? Nobody says the whole. But I love that you in there. I love that you throw a hole in there. I learned a lot from this podcast. You guys want me what bussy we did, and I recently passed that info on to date. I actually think you did it. I don't think so, honey. I was like, you don't think so, I know, I don't.

I don't like saying it. Like sometimes during sex people will say like like people will talk about bussy and I'm just like, I'm sorry, I can't look bussy and I haven't changed. I still can't and I won't. I think that's great. You should stay true to you. Yeah, I know yourself. Nobody's trying to change you. Only when it's in Merriam Webster. Will you accept it in the throes of passion? I think? Am I speaking for both of us when I say we have a crush on

your husband? I feel, of course I did have a crush. I have actually had a crush on Dave Franco for years. He was in a sitcom Like the first thing he ever, ever, ever, ever, ever did. He was in a sitcom where he played like the assistant do not disturb, Do not disturb. Wow, my husband's credits were you were you Dave Franco fan prior to husband, Oh my god, outing from the bottom. He just walked in the door. As I said that it goes, why are you guys talking about do Not Disturb?

Because come give a cameo. Way, No, he's not able to hear. He can't hear us. He can't hear us. But tell him that I reviewed Do Not Disturb for the n YU newspaper. I think it was my freshman year, and I said the highlight was CUTEI Dave Franco back in the day when he was a twin here he comes reviewed do Not Disturb newspaper be able to do them in my ear, and he said the highlight of do Not Disturb. We had a uh, I mean right there, this is this is a great picture, readers. Very kind

of you to say that about Do Not Disturb. That was a show where we shot seven episodes. He got canceled after three, so imagine how popular it was. Well, I'm one of the dozens that watched it. That's very very We love the movie, Dave, so good, thank you, thank you. I'm sure she told you very a few to believe that we loved Fire Island so so much. I can't believe you guys watched the person. I mean,

we adore that movie. We adore rom Comes, but like truly on this tour, Like when we've been talking about the recent ones that we love. It's it comes up in every single interview both of you. I mean, you guys subverted so many things about wrong comes in this and such a beautiful I mean the turn in the movie. We're not gonna spoil it, but there's a turn with j Allison and Allison in this room. Yeah, it's so beautifully executed, so well shot, I mean, great, job's truly

coming from you, guys. That's so so sweet, crushed it. I'm gonna let you guys be um much loved you. I'm such huge fans of both you. Alison is a super super fan of your podcast, and she's been she's been buzzingly enough. Oh my god, angel, both of you. It's giving star energy. It's giving really, I mean. And also the picture of the two of you is really I thought the wedding photos are photos are good. I

don't even know if we printed any of ourselves. I actually like framed a bunch for my family for Christmas, and when I go to their houses, I'm always like, why didn't I do one of those for me? That is I know, it's it's kind of one of the perks right of like having a hot husband, being hot yourself. It's like we get to take a sheepe wedding photo, so why you hire the Yeah? Right, it's true. I just did here. Wait, look there's a photo right here.

I just had a party for my and it was like having a wedding pretty much where I was like, I'm getting a photographer, We're getting a photo booth. Look at these. That's why you gotta get a photo boo. That's actually a rule of culture. It's truly culture number sixty. You had a party. I couldn't agree more. It's something fun and then everybody gets a fun souvenir. Yeah, And it's also it's community building to sort of like gather around the photo booth and be like, okay, what are

we doing now? Sometimes would be using props. Are we serious or are we smiling? Some of my favorite pictures from the I love that for You Premier party. I have really good shots of like me and Aiden Andemy and put On, like me and Vanessa like that we're in the photo booths and why do I have that? Because there was a photo of exactly I feel like, Also, what's fun is it when you host a party. Then afterwards you get the link to see everybody's photo booths

pictures from the night. You have to see like all your friends and how drunk they were, like a core. Yeah, I just love getting pictures of my friends and their husbands who are like grabbing their ass like assholes, the whole assholes. Finger up the asshole at my party, come on, come on. Just because Trudy Campbell is such an icon, I have to ask, like, do you have any like favorite memories from mad Men, which is the greatest television shop all time? Thank you? Um well, you know, yeah,

so many good memories. I mean that was really my first sort of big job on TV that was concurrent with Community airing wise, right, yes, but mad Men started earlier, probably two years earlier. I remember that was like that was like a big moment, like when you were on both. It was like, yes, which is rare because also, you know, all of the networks gets so weird about you being on other shows, so there are a lot of rules.

You know, I was recurring on I had been recurring for two seasons on mad Men, and I was doing like six out of twelve episodes, and then I did the Community pilot kind of without telling anybody, and then people kind of flipped out from mad Men, and I think they were like, well, if she can't, because they were like, normally the networks would only let you do three episodes of recurring on a show or a different network, and the mad Men team kind of flipped out and

they were like, if we can't get a six episode guaranteed, then you're never going to be on mad Men again.

And I had this moment of like, what have I done? Then? Well, but then what ended up happening is Matt Weiner, the creator, like wrote letters and I believe he did this honestly every season to our producers on Community, like and to NBC at large, being like, here are all the NBC people who have guests start on other shows more than three times John Hamm on thirty Rock, And so it was I mean, that was in the family NBC, but it was it was sort of like, look at all

the people from mad Men who have guests start on NBC stuff. That's John Hamm on thirty Rock did more than that episode, and anyway, they always got me out to do it, So that was like really exciting, but I realized I didn't answer your question. That thing I remember most when I think of the show is honestly the cost of course, I was assuming that for some

reason because it is, oh my god, the fittings. Janie Bryant was the costume designer for mad Men, and she was so fun and it was like the highlight of my time on the show would be my fittings with her. She had such a specific vision always and the Campbell's

should have full boards with um like inspiration boards. And we always talked about Campbell blue because the Campbell's campbel we were like a real jewel tone family, so we wore a lot of Campbell blue and green truly brought out my eyes and Vincent karthiser's eyes like almost like brother and sister. Yeah, it was kind of perfect casting. I had great hats that were like incredible and so strange. So that's the highlight for me. I just did you did you had really good hats that happens. This hat

such a great hat. I was thinking about that hat the other day because I was wearing a hat and was, well, you know what I just realized, Bowen, that we have iconically done, is that we have yet again right before a huge cultural moment recorded the episode before so is predictions for what Rihanna is going to do at the Super Bowl? Is she going to throw a curveball? Are we gonna get we Found Love? Are you doing a super Bowl thing? You are? Dave and I are just

going to watch from here. We like to watch football together so that Dave can explain to me everything that's going on and why I should care about it, and you can sort of explain Rihanna to him exactly. He's not familiar. This is what I wrote down for for our little pool that we have in our friend group. We have a pool for what she's going to do with the super Bowl. I'm probably dead wrong. I wrote

down and no order umbrella. Diamonds needed me because I was like, I was looking through Auntie and I was like, is she going to do work? Maybe? I don't think she's gonna have Drake there. I think that would be a little loaded. Um. So that's that's my that's my anti thing. I don't think I'm right on that. But whatever we Found Love I did stay from unapologetic. You think she's going to give a ballad? I think she's, oh sorry, Diamonds is from an apolitics and I guess

lift me up. I don't know, but this is exciting, Like there's no way to be sure. You don't think we're gonna get Oh no, no, what's my name? I don't think she likes that song? Really? Who? I think the songs with Drake features on them are a little they feel what about a rude boy? I don't think, but hopefully it's some combination of that. But yes, we have iconically done that episode before the super Bowl, so that is why it was not discussed today. Who do

you think she's gonna bring out? If no Drake? Do you know what I think would only happen at the super Bowl? Like, obviously she can't bring Kanye out, but if Paul McCartney came out for four or five seconds, I think that could happen. If they're ever going to do that song live, it would be at the super Bowl, right yeah? Wow? But then that makes everyone nervous that Kanye is going to come out, you know what I mean? I mean, we're gonna be honest, edge, we don't want

people on edge, people on edge. I'll never forget how nervous I was when Lady Gaga jumped and caught that ball. I was like, do not drop that ball on. That was bravery in boldness right there to say I'm my breath away, my breath away. It was shocking off. Yeah, she was giving shocking off in that moment. I was very impressed and every day of her life, to be honest, true Bowen and I dream is that she flies a Fighter jet as she's singing holding my hand at the

oscar um. She might, she might do it. We're just gonna cut away, like we're like, why isn't Gaga. They're in person and then they're going to cut away. She's thousands of feet in the air. She and Tom Cruise fall out of a plane while she's singing it. She's in his arms. Oh my god. She pulls the cord as she serenades him. They fall, They land on a motorcycle. She unclipped the parachute and they drive off into the sunsets being written. The performance is being written, and Dave's

going to direct. Dave's directing, I'm going to produce this for the Oscars. There was that year that Whoopie Goldberg when she hosted, came down from the ceiling as the team from rouge and she said, I am the sexy beast. It was your sexy beast came out. Oh my god, I love sexy beast. And any time Dave and I are laying by a pool, I always try to do the opening like psy brolling that's good, Oh my god is my favorite thing that in the train spotting every

so often. I also like to without a like choose life, choose a job, chose Cereal, choose cartoons Sunday morning. Do you consider yourself an accent queen? Because it was queen and glow to thank you. I used to be much better at doing accents, like right out at theater school is really honed in on my voice work posture. Yeah, but I do low key love to do impressions, and

I actually think I'm quite good at it. But like my favorite person on Bachelor in Paradise or stuff like that, Like for my friends, I will do impressions of every character on Bachelor in Paradise and we we have fun with it. Yeah, to be fair, to be fat, that's Love Island. Sorry, wrong reference. I was like, I was just silent, like you were giving me your character in the movie, like silently staring to get me to say more.

It was because the same as when I got my Black Keys on vinyl, and I was like, sure, sure, I don't think so honey that I did that, but I do think so honey, that it's time for item. Thanks honey. So this is order. Do you have to explain it to me? But if you like to explain it. Every episode we we tell everyone again and again it's our sixty second segment that we do on this podcast. And um, I have something as of yesterday. Actually bo really okay, So this is a fresh one, barely ripened.

This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I don't think so honey when a mini golf course is doing the most. When a mini golf course is like really, it's like it's like impossible and you can't even get par You're like, how are you going to get a part two on that where you have to jump over a river and getting the lady got playing and fly over the oscars? It's crazy? And then we want to have stop breakfast today, which

I appreciated the production value. I do think so honey. When there's sort of a native of red Hook in the video sort of doing I R R. Maybe it was pirate themes like sometimes these holes, to say the word holes again, are really too tough. And I also don't think, honey, maybe mini golf in general as an adult, because you sort of get the vibe that like people aren't can't really get on the same page about how

seriously we're taking it right. Sometimes people are like flopping a little bit in minigolf and they'll just pick the ball up and be like whatever. And I'm like, well, now what am I writting down on the card? And I don't think so, honey, that I'm the scorekeeper, you know what I'm saying. We were both score keeping. We were on different cards, but sometimes we're on different cards. Sometimes some honey that I left me on the same card as you, But I don't think so, honey. And

that's one man. I did feel it was unfair that we were on different cards and it was supposed to be my sister. We were drunk. Why are we on different We were drunk, and like why are we writing down numbers and keeping track? Anyway, Alison, it was a mess. It was, and I only made it through half. I really I had to go into there if you ever go into the shipwrecked minigolf course in Red Hook, just know there's a bathroom there. I sobbed in it for

an hour. I agree with you about people not being on the same page of serious gameplay, like as adults. Why you know, I've been to like a game night at a bar with some people, but I'm like a little stone just laughing and having a fun time, and the table I went, it's like, Aliston, get it together, goddamnit. Yeah, I've been known to. I've been known to bomb some real like like pictionary or stuff like that, because I gameplay means we should all be a little stone just

having a fun period. I like that. It really is very much so and super into mushrooms these days as well. My mushroom gummies by my yesterday probably part of the reason. But the mushrooms were really popping off yesterday in Red Hook. Yeah, the stream's head. Yeah, Okay, that's a good positive development to know that Alison Bree is giving stoner. Oh yeah, I love that. I do think so. Honey, Yet, Bonyang, who's very good at games in trivia, we're actually gonna play.

We're going playing games today instead of watching the Super Bowl. We're gonna sort of like not be watching football because we don't have a day Franco to sort of explain it to us totally. So it's just gonna be a bunch of gay men sort of sitting around playing games and then Orihanna on we'll do that and then we'll see where it takes us. But um, bow do you have? I don't think so, honey, I do, I do. It's

gonna be a little signed field. Just to warn you guys, it's gonna be about like and that it's about nothing no, and that it's about air travel. Okay, So I think he's one of our preeminent air travel comedians. What is the deal with plane? That's that's classic. Lauren Michaels is one of our biggest fans of the podcast, and he listens to every episode because he's obsessed with and he I just wanted to hear knows that I'm great. I'm a great impressionist. Yes, it's happy to like, happy to

come on in paradise sketches. Absolutely all right, this is your I don't think so, honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People who block the view at baggage claim. Get out of the way. You're blocking the flap. I need to have eyes on the flap at all times. You cannot break my view. God give me the gray, the patients, the coolness to stand far away from the flap, because I, unfortunately am the person who has to stand by the flap, and I wish

I wasn't, but I don't have time. I need to get out of there. But there are some of these people. They must be they must not have a care in the world. If they're standing on the other end of the carousel. I go, why aren't you at the flap. There's something wrong with you. But then I go, something's wrong with me because I'm at the flap and I'm in arms every five seconds when some person trundles over and blocks my view and I have to go and intercept there. It's like so it is my super Bowl.

Every time I check a bag, I am maneuvering and drawing things on the chalkboard in my mind. I have to say, you wouldn't like me around a carousel because I'm stanning. I'm stanning. I'm at the at the thing where it comes out and standing right up on the thing because I want my bag and I want out of them. I was just gonna say, people can't aunt when people are pressed right up against the thing. Even sorry,

that's my bags. Armand excuse me, excuse me, like you're not gonna steps back, give it a little breathing room. That's all I'm saying. Until you see your bag. That's when you step forward, when you see your bag, When you see your bag. Are you a Delta queen? You know a little bit. There's no wrong answer. You don't have to be adult. I rotate, I rotate Delta. American United, you have an open relationship with Delta. Yeah, I'm kind of like in a trouble with It's a quadruple with

United and a Delta. That's very shape. I United sometimes, Yeah, I text United to come over. Yeah. United just getting better. Well that was um, well, I would say, like Delta. What I love about the Delta app is they'll tell you when the bag is coming out those girls and there. It's always right to like, your bag is now arriving. You look up, it's there. It is. Oh my god, I didn't even realize that. That is a great feature. One of the best features actually rated one of the

top features by last culture. Um, we're happy to do it, all right. So wow, Alison Brie, this is your I don't think so honey, or do you have one? I have one. I'm ready to go something I feel very passionately about. This is exciting. So this is Alison's I don't think so honey. The time starts now. Okay, I don't think so honey. People who hate cats, well, it's so ten years ago. All right. First of all, if you're fine, I hear you, But like, why do you have to be Like I'm a dog person, not a

cat person. It's not one or the other. You don't have to choose a pet like I love all animals. Also, it's because cats have been totally villainized in the media since the little kids. Cats only belong in movies to sad cat ladies and fucking straight up villains. Or cats are the villains themselves, right, like sucking In every movie, cats are terrorizing sweet dogs. Don't get me started on Lady in the Tramp. Okay, an American tail. We love fible,

but the cats are literally representing Nazis. Like, also, there's a millionies every Christmas. Dogs get a dog's life, A dog's purpose, A dog's purpose to starting starting Betty Gilpin, Cats Get Cats the musical with a never before seeing but whole cut. I don't think so, honey, there we go. And that's one that is a huge one. And thank you for shedding light on this thing. And they have

been villainized in media without us really realizing. They've been villainized and victimized and they needed a champion and they got one today. Congrats cats. I'm here to report that people who say they don't like cats, they just don't know cat. Our cats. We are cat people through and through. Our cats sleep in the nook of our arms, are us, follow us room to room, I call, he comes over

like people think these are dog characteristics and they're wrong. Also, guys, it's I feel like I'm I'm doing like a two minute I don't know stuff seeps and this is real. Like any hotels, airbnb s they say pets allowed, and then you call and say, great, we're going to bring our two cats, and they go, oh, sorry, ter use language better better, and we'll give that. Dogs are the most famous pets, but the second most famous pet is a cat. So when you say pets. What are you

talking about? Exactly right, Like you're going to exclude that whole half of the equation. Just say dogs allowed or what you think people are bringing their birds? Like you think people are bringing puids. Some freaks out there up and allowed, but cat owners are shamed. Oh my god, can we just point out this cat, Gouda in the movie and somebody I us to know the guys was

a star. Kuda was a real scene stealer that we loved when the cat would just spike the camera would look at camera, the cat would just sort of look in the camera. We literally around it like several times because we had every scene with the cat was huge and I do mean so he's so big because we named his character Harry. The cat is named after our old cat, Harry, who was like Harry, rest in peace. Carry But now we have Otis and Max and just

to bring it back around. The final thing to say on this topic, which I touched on briefly moments ago, but since there's been so much asshole talk, have you guys heard of the of the cats butthole cut that was never really Yeah, we've heard of this now now do we think that exists? Is that sort of like a thing that what's going on? Bo do you the answer? I think there is it's sitting in a VFX person's like hard drive. I think it exists. Somebody's got yeah.

I mean the best the best thing about that movie is that it's just Judy Dench's hands, human hands, human hands, Judy Dench's human hands, and then just like just her human hands, like either they forgot she's got a full ring on. It's like, we need to see less of Judy Dench's hands in the movie and much more. Cat

c g I botthole. I feel it's also Ian McKellen walking into a scene and and randomly possibly improvising touch wood as he touches a wooden beam that's worth a rewatch and then continues talking and you're like, what, what, why? Who you notice these things? And how last movie I saw in theaters before the pandemic Cats, We watched it during the pandemic and Dave and I just got so

fucked up. We like drink two bottles of wine joy while watching and we were like just cross faded while cats squapped and I will say, just to um co, sign this this notion my cat journey has been to really dislike them in my childhood because I was allergic. I am still allergic, but growing up if as you get older, you really do like look at a cat and go, wow, that is a special creature. Here's the thing. It's like people who don't like cats, it's just laziness.

Like they're like unconditional. I don't do anything this dog. Just like cats like have actual personality. I mean, I love dogs. I'm not trying to keep throwing shaded dogs, but like cats have real personality, exists, Like let them kind of exist and you get to know them and you earn their love and you have an actual relationship with them, and they're like cool and intelligent. They're not like bitchy and the loo. They're just like cool. Yeah,

they're unbothered. They're unbothered. I love cats now, I really do. Oh, is what can we do to sort of make sure you don't have an allergic reaction around a cat? Is there a pill you can take? Is an elected situation, it starts an allergy shot, but it's like it's just like it takes so long. You have to get a shot a month or like don't we just talked to something about it. Who did it? And it's like, I'm

done being allergic. But they're like, it takes so long because if you miss a shot, you have to like start the shots over. But you have to do them every day. Or there might be a pill to like an allergy pill. It's take a clariton. It's like, take a clariton, Take a clariton. I just want a hypoallergenic cat with dog like features, some dog like features. It

doesn't have to behave like a dog exactly. But I have a friend, I have many friends who have cats who are dressed puppies in their soul and it's loverly. That's the ideally animal totally, the has like a puppy. What Sbecca producer Becca says, I hear there is a damned spray you can brush onto the animals that helps origins. Oh that's interesting. And then you don't have to take something. You just give them a little keep kind of calm.

I hope they like that, though if they're uncomfortable with the spray, then I wouldn't want to do it well right, But and the thing about cats is they have no voice. They're actually voiceless, so you'll never know, but I do. Do you think me out is the best or what? When the cat meows? Oh my god, I said, this is not kidding you guys. Our cat Otis meal is back when we say is otis and he has a really high pitched and he display, Oh it's good. Is the best thing. It's very cute. I'll take me out

over a wolf any day. And when I hear wolf, I sometimes frae Verry Jarred. It's like when the zoom starts recording and to go this meeting is being incorded. It's like, oh god, it's so scary. The only thing scarier than that is wolf. God. Yeah, wolf is like you're yelling me now. Is like. I've never had a cat waked me up in my building. I've had every dog in this fucking building wake my ass up when I didn't want to be woken up. Oh yeah. We used to have a couple of yappie dogs that lived

across the street and the owners I don't know. It was like they were never home and the dogs were just locked in like the frontmost room facing our house, barking all day. But they moved. But they moved well, I mean us readers is if you want to see an incredible cat and a great film to boot, you can watch Somebody I used to know. It's streaming now on Amazon Prime and it was co written and stars

our guest Allison fucking breathe. Just no. This was such an aspirational moment for us, like ever since Betty was on the show, and like Seng, your praises like all up, down, all around, but like we were so excited to meet you and this was such a blast. Have you on. Well, it is so so mutual. I feel like I'm really glad that none of us forced it ahead of time. Organically happened exactly when it was supposed to happen, exactly you and David Griffith. And I'm really happy because a

crazy fan. But next time, I hope you will. I will absolutely I'm knowing and I'm running up and jump into my arms. Yes, we go off the cliff. Oh my god, that's how we go. Oh thanks so much for having you guys. This is so fun. I love you both very much. Love this was the best Listen um Bo and Yang. We end every episode with a song we do and I have a song in mind. Go on I'm connected to you from the film Somebody I used to know. Are you ready do Do Do? Semi job? Got a live Do I ever tell you?

I saw them perform at Universal Studios, Florida. Third Eye Blind, I love them. Third Eye Blind perform at Universal Studios, Florida in front of the Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket and it was a perfect image, just Third Eye Blind singing Doode Do Do with a roller coaster in the back. Matt Rogers found that doesn't get better than that. Bye Bye,