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"Days of Searching" (w/ Margaret Cho and Rocco Stowe)

Mar 14, 201846 minEp. 75
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Matt & Bowen make the pilgrimage to the epicenter of culture, West Nyack NY, to interview a true living legend -- someone who has made substantial cultural and personal impacts on Matt & Bow. Just to give you an idea -- Matt was so excited that he was re-arranging the furniture in the hotel lobby before the interview. She is joined by the hilarious Rocco Stowe, who is opening for her during her new tour, FRESH OFF THE BLOAT (and is also her boyfriend). Please welcome, the legendary, the one-of-a-kind, Margaret Cho!

And before you even ask, yes -- they DO talk about Singapore's draconian marijuana laws! But more importantly, they get into Margaret's current tour, FRESH OFF THE BLOAT, performing abroad during Trump's presidency, the #MeToo movement, and weed culture. It's a veritable feast, so DIG IN!

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Okay, Lost Culture. Now you might be wondering why we did a little bit of a different intro right there, because we're doing a little bit of a different intro right now, right now, right here, and um, this is a very special episode. Yes, we were currently you're just listening to me and Matt at the Forever Dog Studio, no guests. Um, and we're doing like a little sort of you know, a primer. Um. I guess that's the right word. Not really, I was going to say prime. U. Well,

I guess that's not a thing at all. Primer sort of works like in the chemical sense, like we're priming up the episode. That's exactly what I was thinking. Chemical sense. Absolutely, So I always am, You're always thinking in the chemical sense. So, um, we're just doing a little intro off at top for this very special guest that we have. You guys, we traveled to West Nayack, center of the world to meet and have a Lost Culture Rests interview with the one

and only Margaret Trow Margaret. Um. So, Margaret is on tour right now for her fresh off the Bloat Tour stand up tour. She's Um, you know that's the thing about Margaret she's always been working like she's she's just been here this whole time, which is so cool. So um, you know, like we had like a little sort of in with her, and so we decided to hit her

up and see if she was available. Um. She said yes, which which was a gag and um and she said she asked if she could have her boyfriend's Rocosto, who was also opens for her on the tour, to be in the interview as well, and we said of course, and he was lovely and you'll you'll hear that. Um, it was a good it was a good time. It was a really good time. We went up there. And I don't know, I think I've said this before on the show, but Margaret is truly one of my heroes.

And you'll see just how restrained I am in the episode. I think it's about thirty seconds in that I blow my load to her and tell her that she was my hero. He did it right off the time. I really couldn't help it because we were we were like upstairs in the hotel while while the boys were setting up, um for the episode, and I'm like rearranging the chairs in the lobby, like cleaning the hotel lobby, Like, never

seen someone pace like that, and I'm so nervous. You were nervous, but you were about to meet one of your idols. Yeah yeah, and you'll you'll hear more about that in the episode. But it was really it was like one of those things. It was like I think it was like I was coming around to the fact that like, how gagged my thirteen year old self would be totally it's just so like that. Yeah, absolutely, it was. It was a big moment for the show, for cure

for culture. Um, so it's a really great interview. Um gosh, what else is there to say? I think there's nothing more to say. There is nothing more. I think at this moment is when we toss it over to ourselves. Oh my god. And then you're going to get the regular intro that you crave because I know you you guys all have blue little balls at home, a little blue balls. I know you have your little blue balls. I know how bad it hurts aching balls and Matt

is scowling right now. I'm excited for you guys to hear this. It's so fun. So enjoy our interview with Margaret cho Look man, oh I see you why why and look over there? How is that? Yes? Goodness, ding Dong, Last Cultures is calling. We're Johnny and juning in right now on this mike because we've had some technical difficulties but we're adapting. But no, hot engineer Will is on the zoom right now. He's doing great work. He's pinching the dials. I don't know what it's called. And he

looks really good, which is the most important. Um, I've done. I think a decent job of maintaining my child today. Oh, I think you have. You've been our guests and guests by proxy don't know this, but I am a huge, huge, absolutely enormous fan. Um, and I'm very excited about today and so UM. They need no introduction at all. Uh, just fantastic comedians. They're going on tour to other for the Fresh off the Bloat Tour, coming to a sitting near you. Um, and they're winding down to their last city.

So get your tickets Margaret Show dot com slash tour do that please welcome Rock Oh Show and Margaret Show. Okay, I I just want to tell you, like I was, I was wondering when in the pot I would bring this up but like you. When I was like thirteen, fourteen years old, little gay boy on Long Island, I would just shut my door and just play your albums on repeat, and I it was just like to have someone who was engaging with I felt like me and

my sense of humor. No one else was doing that, and I just like, I love you, I love you, thank you. That's wonderful. Yeah. I mean look, I always said like there was two people I had to meet that like helped me in that period, and it's you and Kelly Clarkson. Haven't met her yet. That's perfect. That's good. I love it. That's a good that's a good combination. I would like to see that concert. Yes, yes, the heat too, really really it really heats up. Don't get no.

Will there be a heat too? I liked it. The cold, the cold, yeah, the lukewarm. Yeah, they do it in Alaska. Yeah, that would be great. Oh my god. Anyway, Hi guys, how are you great? Good? Good? Has the We talked a little bit before this, but how's the tour band? Tell everyone how how that's been going. It's been going great? Um, touring is it's really special and um, you know, just to be able to go to different places. It's like we've gone to our Usually American comedians don't go, whether

that's Scandinavia or even Asia, which was coming up. So that's cool, you know, to be doing this, it's exciting, right. Yeah, she got like four standing ohs in Europe, which is unheard of. I was I just want to brag. I just want to brag for her, because that's good. They don't like to stand up. They get there's stingy no, but that that's really special, especially too, because America is not so popular around the world. I was wondering about that,

and I imagine you do discuss the situation in your act. Yeah, of course. Um. And it's great because we just followed Kathy Griffin because she just did this huge European tour, so kind of coming through after her was really great. Um. But I love it. I love touring. I think that, you know, it's the one thing that is the regular part of my life because I've always done it for thirty five years. So it's good. Um. I guess in that being like with America just not being as well

regarded as it's popular. Well, I mean, what's like, what has been your way of like winning everybody over for both of you, like, like, what's what's been that? Like gambit you think do you have one? I think it's just that you know that everybody's thinking the same, that you know that we're all incredulous, that we're all frustrated, that we're all scared it actually, so I think that's what you know, if you kind of come at it with that, they get very um, they're excited to hear

your perspective. Yeah, are you feeling scared? How are you feeling right now about everything? I just can't. I don't understand. It's crazy. It's crazy. Also, I don't know why he doesn't just get a good weave like he needs, like a figure at the funk out. Yeah, a good um you know, like a boliage, like a good you know, lace front. Get a nice lace front and don't skimp on it, especially in the back because he's got the

money allegedly. Yeah, yeah he did. He just get like shave it and then just get tan and do some juice and get some tats with some change. Yeah. I think I would help him, Yeah, yeah, him through South Philly a little bit. Yeah, I think that would be Yeah, it would contextualize the Twitter a little bit more, then the spelling arrows would look like, yeah, maybe a second life characterists if he has a second life character, that would be good. Yeah, that's that. That's that's a second

life character. I feel like it would Yeah, it would just track together more. Yeah, I mean at least now he has like the I guess sense to like go back and fix the errors and the spelling and everything, like did you see the Alec Baldwin tweet Alex Baldwin G I E I N G. I know it's yeah, well you know he's not doing it from it's like an old Twitter app that he's using, so it doesn't have spell check or something. That's what it's like a very I think there's there's also old technology happening. He

may be doing all of this on a BlackBerry. Honestly, maybe that's a sidekick sidekick a sidekick, Yeah, I mean that that would that would track to a sidekick bald I mean like you know, tatted up like tanned, just doing like somebody who could have been on Dog the Bounty Hunter exactly exactly. Um, we were talking about your yeah, oh my god. Um, we were talking about your Asia, your Asia dates coming up, and I don't know, like

should we get into this. I feel we were just talking about how like just that gay culture there is like sort of bubbling underneath the surface, and it's just still like do you get I get sad whenever I go back to China and I'm just like, wow, these people are just like not fully they're hiding on the apps, but they're not like out there, like you know, wearing sequence and shut like and I know, like in Korea for their gay pride celebrations, people wear masks, they don't

take photographs, they don't aren't out. I have a lot of gay friends in Korea who are still incredibly closeted when it comes to their work, their families, in every aspect of their lives, and they don't share any of it on social media. And they have a very kind of like underneath kind of d L lifestyle which is really rough and so it's it's very emotional. Um, but I think that kind of going over there and and addressing that is really important. So that makes it really good.

So you don't change anything about what you do. You go in there and you give them, Yeah you don't, Yeah, you have to just because they're coming to that to see that. And the last time I was in Singapore, this was crazy. Um. I was like so aware that if you have weed, you'll die, they'll execute you. So I was like, that's a real thing. So I was searching through all my bags and then like I got

I hope I got rid of everything. And then so I went and I didn't get searched at customs and um, three days after I got there, I roach fell out of my purse and I was like, oh my god, I could have died. But then I was really happy to have some weight. Yeah. Absolutely, I don't smoke pot anymore, but that at that point was very important and so um. But yeah, it's a scary country. They flogged people, don't gum,

don't they give you the death penalty or something? Well if you um, Well that was that happened to that American young like he was in college or whatever, and he went over there and he threw garbage at a car. Didn't even hit the car. He just threw garbage at a car and he had to be flogged. He had he was caned in public. There was like a rattan cane soaked in water and this was like a huge international scandal because America was like, you can't do that.

This is one of our citizens. This is torture. They're like, we don't care. Threw trash, the wet rattan cane and was like a wrinkled Asian women. Yeah, like doing the bear from Hell comes out. You know, it's so crazy, but that there, you know, if you some people think of these places as like paradise is like, but really there's there's underneath. There's there's quite a lot of stuff

that we don't understand it. And I think in some Singapore too, I think it's actually still illegal to be gay, right, it's actually against the law to such a progressive like neo cosmopolitans. Yes, which it is too in a In a lot of ways, it's a well it's a huge shopping hub too, so it's all shopping else and the highest level of like lifestyle you could imagine. But it's also it's everything is a conglomerate. Everything is a shopping mall,

everything is a megachurch. So it's all of these very sort of big entities that are kind of on top of each other financially and sort of with the social conservatism too. It's very strange. So when you say it's like illegal to be gay, there like to be caught explicitly in the act of gayness waiting outside the show and being like all right, there's let him roll on him.

There's like that thing. Like I guess in Texas there's still laws on the books about sodomy, you know, these sort of laws that if they wanted to enforce them, they would, but they don't just because it's a cultural thing that's just like there, you're there, it's on display there to look at it, but it's not really being Yeah, I see, have you done the Asia trip yet? Um? I haven't done the Asian trip yet. But it's interesting

the things you have to hide being Chinese. He's like, I did a meditation camp, and the whole meditation camp with Chinese because they'll get killed trying to meditate learn this technique. So yeah, I was the only white guy in there. Everybody else was from China. Yeah, and that was in north north northern California. So I mean they have to hide everything. Was it like, um, was it like a fallen gone type of thing? It was, yeah,

which is just a non sectarian of scientific technique. But they classify with Buddhism, so which is not it's the teachings of the Buddha, but it's not Buddhism. But there is some sort of like political consens Yeah, they'll get killed for out there. Yeah, definitely. Like I went to Tibet and so you you know, which is China and um, you know, going through UH to even get to the country, they take apart all of your books too. This is

before kindall. So I actually had books and books, books of paper, and they would look through to make sure there's no photographs of the Dali Lama, and there is. You cannot have any images of him in any capacity. Um, you can't even say his name. They call it him h h. This is his holiness. You can't say anything about their form of Buddhism and that it's incredibly crazy,

like the persecution that they go through these Buddhists. You know, you think Buddhists wouldn't have to go through persecution, but they do. It's crazy. This is insane. Was panicking packing my vape pen to fly to like Iowa City. I was like, I'm gonna be put in prison. No, I would just do the tour in Chinatown. I think vapens you can take anywhere, although well you will Asia, I don't know, but Iowa cities fine. I always said, Okay, I lost mine this morning. I was on my hands

and fucking he's looking for I think it's gone. That's the worst. It's really bad the word. I was in a bad mood all day today because I was half hungry and half my vaypen was lost. So sad, it's it's not good. Also, they're like eighty bucks. They're really expensive. Yeah, they're just clutched to have. I guess the way I was to give away all my secrets, the way I was packing it was, they were in my toiletries. I just put him apart. But yeah, who the fund is

going to stop you? Yeah, that's I mean, it's fine. And also it's pretty much going to be legal everywhere. Yeah, you know it a matter of time, right, Yeah, I'm leaning into the mic. I'm sorry, we already really Johnny

and jining it. Um. I would like to go to California just because like we're just talking about l A. We would like to shout out l a's um Jill Kim Booster right now, we want to say hello, to him, he's decided to leave us permanently for Los Angeles, where the weed is much better, I feel, and I'm sure he's enjoying himself out there. The wheat is is really I mean, it's another level. Yeah, it's crazy of excellence,

you know, sure, sure, because and it's also legal. Like it's so weird that in West Hollywood all of the marijuana dispensaries had huge lines around the block for people, Like it was crazy, and you know it still is. It's the highest end dispensaries, the craziest, Like it's the qualities insane. Okay, so is it. It's no longer that you need a medical reason, so you just can you go, You just get whatever what you want. It's crazy. That's

a beautiful thing. Yeah, I mean I think it. It has increased the sobriety checkpoints for sure, there's a lot more of them. People are like, everybody's fucked it sucked out. Yeah, but you don't deal with that anymore, Well I don't. I mean I don't. But I appreciate the commerce. I like, I like stuff like that. I like the intervention. I was actually in the marijuana business. This is a long time ago. This is probably like nine or ten years

ago where I had this business that was um. It was like edible arrangements, but it was marijuana, so it was cannabasket and you could senda i know really exactly could be the same thing UM, but you would send gifts, you know too, And I never actually I did prototypes UM where I would make like little art projects that I have like an art kind of pipe with like you know, little um Japanese shunga like big beads that had like Japanese erotica and painted and then there was

like um, marijuana, and then there would be a lighter and then maybe an apple like something that's sort of you know, like green, and they're like something nice all within wrapped in like raffia. It was very Martha Stewart like, very but then it was like the legality of it at that point was too hard to negotiate, Like I

didn't know how to navigate that world. And even now it's still very legally, very strange, and a lot of people are trying to get in the business now, but that it's still federally it's it's illegal, so it's very it's a very difficult business. It's a weird one. Remember the first time I did the California weed, it was so guidos. I was like turning like a super Guido on red because that's what Yeah, yeah, they coming out. My buddy started talking about fabrize and I was like,

so stone, I couldn't figure out what fabreeze was. And he goes, you know, yeah, like the months Novembers, Decemberes. Yeah, I smoked it again. Never smoked it again after a different sting. Yeah, no, man, after that, I was trying to I thought fabreze was a month. You know, that's that's enough. I'm good. Yeah, I don't know. You gotta move. I gotta stay away from that, you know. But see, you're from Philly. I'm from Long Island. So I want to ask you this, Like we talked a little bit before.

My whole upbringing, everyone started drinking at like age eleven, like in the suburbs. It's like you have a vocabulary for like going out and drinking like young, young, young. And then when I moved to New York City for college, like I met a lot of people from California. They all have this vocabulary for weed that was not a part of my childhood. Were you like was were you just like a drinker? And high school I smoked. I

started drinking and smoking weed attend Ok. Yeah, so, but we didn't really call it like what they call it in California. They have all those weird terms trees and all that. Yeah, I know, I wish I I almost wish I had started smoking earlier because maybe I wouldn't have drank as much in high school. And I feel like, I don't know, with with the drinking age being like twenty one, it's like that because being drunk and getting on the road, you're gonna fucking do so much more

damage than you sit at home and smoke weed. It was like or derb Like I would drink and then the weed would be like like you take a couple of hits. Wasn't like the main you know, yeah, it was just like the extra matches generalized with abandoned that people from California have built in vocabulary for weed, Margaret, did you grow up with that vocabulary? Like? Holistically? Was

it like weed and alcoholic? Was like, I mean it was, yeah, definitely, But um our weed was terrible in the eighties, like eighties and nineties, the weed was like really bad, like Mexican dirt weed to we get with all steeds and stems, and it was just awful. It wasn't good. And then I became friendly with Brownie Mary, who in San Francisco was an AIDS activist and she was making pot cookies for people in hospice so that they could start eating, so they would get the muncheese and eat and they

would all all become better. She was arrested so many times, but she was really a true I mean what a like a mother terrace, like a real saint um and really helping all of these men who are dying enjoy their last days, you know. So it was really special. So that's when I sort of got hooked in with

the right people, the power Stoners. That's when I became friends. Yes, you then you get you know, you're hanging out with having Thanksgiving with Snoop Dogg, and you know, going on tour with Cheech and Chong and and Cypress Hill, and you know that's sort of a different kind of like you're in a different level. So I got, uh, we got in trouble one year for smoking pot in Radio City music Hall. I was with very famous Stoners who they are still in the closets. I can't actually say

it's a it's a closet Stowers. But we got I thought that because they were so famous. I thought we were not going to get in trouble. We got kicked out and we're doing a show there, and it was like, so bizarre because we got in trouble. But you know, I can't mess with these institutions. But this is when this was in Oh, so it wasn't even wasn't that long ago. It wasn't that long ago. So it was very I mean, it was still very kind of outlaw to be doing that. But now I think now, I

think it's different. Yeah, so these are famous Stoners that we don't know, or that you don't know. That must be a trip to find out that they are still Yeah, and then you go, oh, a lot of things makes sense. Oh yeah, So I would give Like there was some some people who were coming down and doing my show. I used to be on the show on Lifetime and we shot in at Atlanta, So I would give them pot lollipops on their private plane so they would come and be on the show. So that was like but

my way to get people to come and be a guest. Yeah, okay, I just wanted that means we can guess people hear all of the people that were on there. We're going to be going through checkers right after this. Um well yeah, I mean it's a relief to me, Like I know you're not smoke now, but it's always like a relief to me to find out that someone smokes. Sweet, I'm like, okay, cool, we can break through whatever garbage and like real it is.

It's nice. I mean, you know when you when you have that thing, like most comedians are stoners in general, Like that's the one drug that has a very um kind of like almost all comics have experience with it. It's something to do with being on the road and that lifestyle and you know, just that we don't really do a lot. Comedians don't do that much during the day except we'll travel. But then you know, you have

a lot of empty time. Sure, totally totally, um how have um Just like now, I just kind of want to talk about like the content of this new this new show off the blow. Um. We were reading we were reading your release and that you quoted your grandmother and saying that you looked bloated, like like you were found at the bottom of the lake after days of search after I mean, that's the way that Asian people are.

They really tell it like it is like you look like you've been dragged from a river, which is totally legitimate. You know. I I have had periods of looking very very rough and decaying in decomposing. But is it like I mean, I mean, I I agree with you because you know, I just I've had to live with that. But it's like I keep going back and forth on whether or not that was a useful candor in Asian culture. Yeah, because you know, they want to remark on like how

terrible you look. That's really all it is. Um, you know, it's it's something that the Asian people just do to each other. Sure, you know, it's a family thing. Is it okay? Rocket, Is that like a Philly Italian thing at all? Well, we get that we have the food reward system, like if they eat, everybody gets excited. Oh my god, look at him and he looks so good.

It's like I got a hot blood pressure. I'm eleven, you know, stop feeding me, you know, And then you go to the beach and everybody's like, get your fetish out of away rock and then you're like, I'm fat, Like you know what I mean, I was like two fifty at one point, you know, I mean I had like big arms, but I had the big belly, the big you know. Yeah, I mean you're you're just localizing everything in one place, which is not necessarily a bad thing.

You know, my my mom's friends are always very passive, aggressive, always always you look yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what a bad thing it's like, but it's somehow it's always negative. Every time I gain away till I'm in my in Therese, he looks so healthy. Look, I'm like, ah, wow, was speed and everyone get your fat like and Therese you told me, you know, She's like, don't listen to them. I'm like, I'm listening to Yeah. They feel entitled to it.

Is there ever, like a middle like a happy middle ground for for for any culture, Like it just sounds like we're just built. Every human is built to like is you know, wired to comment on something. And then there's also social media to sort of like just the trolling. The trolling, it never ends. It's actually it's it's actually gotten worse. It's I just had to leave Facebook. I'm done with it. Oh yeah, I don't. I don't do everything like so I was talking about that on stage

life everything, so judge you. Now. It's like people come over my house, They're like, you're O c D. I'm like, why because I fold my shirts? Yeah you know what I mean. I cleaned my bathroom and now I'm not a scumbag and now I'm O c D. Why can't I just have a clean place? You know, you're a grown, functional adult. Keep scrubbing everything over and over again. You know, you keep scrubbing them. You live your goddamn life. Keep it nice. Stop giving me a label. So like, do

you do Twitter? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I like Twitter and I like Instagram. I mean it's um, I've never done Snapchat. I don't know even I don't even understand how it works. But it's very, very very hard to figure out. It's purposefully esoteric. It's like you're not supposed to know how to use it correct. Yeah when you buy design, which is which just makes it seriously Yeah, like they they don't.

There's never like an onboarding process that they never teach you how to use it right, And it's just like, Okay, now go figured this out on your own. That's why I think it's failing. Ye anyway, Um, but the show I feel like, is this show in particular more personal, more confessional than other ones, Like I don't think so. I think it's just I mean it's just a different place in my life, you know, Like I I love

it because there's it's very current. You know, we get a lot into like me too because I'm so me too, I'm so I am also and so like same yeah hashtag same. So it's like very It's great actually because it's it's really cathartic and it's fun to to talk about all those issues because before, you you know, like everybody was so mad at like Daniel Toss for talking about rape, you know, and that that there was this thing well like comedians talk about rape, and I'm like, yeah,

you can if your survivor. It's actually really legitimate and really important. So that's a good jumping off point for what's happening in the show. Um, but there's a lot of other stuff, of course, Trump and a million other things. So it's it's good. I actually have had when I told a couple of my friends that I was coming here. A couple of my female comic friends said that hearing you talk about this stuff and your act empowered them through the same thing and that they felt like themselves

again in there. That's good. So I think it's it's it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's great. I mean I think, um, it's historic moment. You know, we can actually get into this other stuff and and and and really kind of utilize comedy for the catalyst for change. That it should always exactly like she's coming from a place of authenticity and direct experience on the actual level, where a guy like Tash is like he's just trying to get away

with the rape joke to prove out genius. Yes, but then like by like insisting that the rape joke is like work exactly where it's not really coming from this personal place where with her it's part of her, so it works and it helps others. But James Cordon is talking about Harvey Weinstein, you know, you you can't really you can't really poke fun at it if you're not within the experience totally. There's a huge backlash around them, right, Yeah,

Well it'll be interesting. This will air right after the Oscars. But now all this secret ship is coming out and who knows, but now they're actually I think I saw maybe it was unmarried. But Jennifer Lawrence was asked, will you allow Secrets to interview you? And she was like, oh, I didn't know it was like that far. Yeah, it'll be interesting. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I I

don't know anything really about that. I mean I think that it's like one of those things where what happens to the men who are accused, like what what goes what goes forth? Like people even like a Zase or T. J. Miller, like what goes on after you know, with like Louis C. Kate seems kind of finite, although that's almost like we don't know about that either, but even then, like that's sort of a toss up. Yeah, I don't know. And then why is Woody Allen's movies? Like why did you know?

Like he seems to be unaffected and it's a family job. It was like ronan Pharaoh who broke everything down in the family. This is a very specific kind of it's almost like it's it's it's almost like like some sort of Greek tragedy or something exactly like this sort of out of mythology all of it. So who knows, We'll we'll have to see what happens. But so the show is really kind of about tracking that too and observing

it and trying to make sense of it totally. You've always said, um, just going back to your thing about comedy being this catalyst for a change, You've always said that comedians, um are sort of the best equipped to message something without sounding preachy about it. And I think I think that's always been your Yeah, yeah, I think it's good. Thank you. I love that, you know, But it's also a weird when comedians don't have a progressive outlook that freaks me out, like that like Dennis Miller,

that freaks me. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean that kind of thing puts such a low ceiling on how like not relatable, but just how subversive they can be, which is not their goal. But it's like, okay, well, if you're if you're fucking I'll say, like Larry the Cable Guy, it's like you're not going to like actually break out of like you're not going to advance your art forward. Well, no, one's if that's not what you do. If that's not

what you do that's not what you do. Like when everyone was like, kind of like I thought the falin thing with having Trump and I thought it was kind of stupid, like that he ruffled his hair. But then when everyone was like, we expect more, it's like it's Jimmy. It's like he plays beer pong. Yeah, it's not Colbert. No, it's and and even Colbert is allowed to be silly.

You know. Colbert has a great silly side to him too, which is really one of the great things about him is that he does have this highbrow sensibility but also can really hit below the belt and also be ridiculous. And I love that. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with being silly. Yeah, it's it's like it's funny when like even like and also then the poll codes I have a problem with two, Like when Seinfeld was like, the college campuses are PC, so I don't do them.

It's like we don't see what the rest of what he said he could have been saying it in just it's like, yeah, and he is, you know, he's always I mean, Jerry is so funny too, Like he's just I mean, there's a much more complete thought exactly than what is just pulled out. He's not he's not not media savvy enough to like just let that slip out and like be the poll quote, you know. Yeah, yeah, No, the dumb people are the ones that are like, look,

how dumb. This is totally totally that's social media. That's why we say no to Facebook. That's Mimi too. You deleted your Facebook account, didn't you? And then you move everything over to the page because I remember when we were friends on Facebook, just like just very in a very casual manner. Yeah, you made the right all in terms of like shutting down the personally, well, I just don't. I don't. I don't have anything to say there. You know, it's a it's a weird one where I'm like what

am I doing? And I was spending a lot of time on it for I don't know why, because I I don't know what was what was? So I don't know. Well, at least Twitter, it's like it reminds you to shut up Twitter. It's like this limit to the to the amount of words and it's like, Okay, shut the funk up now, Yeah, that's all you need to have friends that I'm like, I would love to like write a

movie and put them in because they're Facebook posts. I'm like, I can't ever like, why would you say that, Like that's in the world forever, you know, it's only a bad thing. Yeah. Facebook is has ruined these these opportunities. I do like the movie The Social Network. I do like that. I will always stand by a Facebook existing because it gave us that movie that's a good movie gets good. Yeah, it's a good movie. And that was that was you know who I like? And this was

her first thing named Mara. Oh adorable, Yes, so good, so good, so cute. Yeah, I'm a fan of them girls. Yeah, ok yeah, even Kate and a lot of people they don't like. Okay, I love myself from Kate Mara, and I Stepp said this for I know, I like Kate Mara about to bring a House of Cards swing around there. I knew I liked her when she got pushed in front of the subway in House of Cards and I felt horrible. I was like, oh wow, and she wasn't like a good character either. I was like, it was

because Kate, Oh she made that. It was because the case she made it for me made it. That's that's that's so weird that shows, Um, gonna come back. I'm glad that the show is going to go on without him, which is so I mean, I don't know it was transparent going on without it is. And then there was like a brief moment in time where he was like back and then now he's not officially now not but the investigation closed, and he's very salty about it, like yeah,

he's out there giving sound bites. Yeah, yeah, which which yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess that's like a consequence to right, It's like of the whole movement. It's like, oh, well, yeah, these people do sort of have some finite it's gonna

be career. It's gonna be hard when you're like Seacrest too, and you have to be out there literally every day, like he's on like Kelly and Ryan and I think the other day, like they didn't even bring it up, and Kelly Ripper just turned to him and was like, I just want to let you know I love working with you. Yeah, and he was like like like that that. Yeah.

It's weird. Um, you know, because everybody else is kind of a little bit at the end of their career, whether it's somebody you know, like Charlie Rose or Garrison Keiler even or Joel just to show with him in that la It was like a crowd that was there for Garrison Keiler. Yeah. Well, you know it's like that. There's people like I don't know, like, well, Bill Cosby's out doing Yeah I tell you, yeah, hot producer Joe's likely to um. But yeah, it's I don't know, it's

it's their audiences don't go away. I know. I mean, but the core fans look at O J still signing autographs, making tons of autographs. It's like this weird kind of you know, mysterious mystique or something that people just want to see the freak show or some deprivation thing where it's like they haven't been It's like they just haven't been Theme Cosby and forever and they just want to. Yeah. No, it's a zoo. It's a zoo. Now they can afford

to see him. The tickets. UM, well this is great, So everyone please please go check out Rockland, Margaret and the Fresh Off the Bloat tour. Um. They're finishing up their American dates, and everyone go back and listen to all the albums because you haven't listened to all the albums you don't get it and just go change. Like I said, just truly changed my life because I was like the funk, why is nothing funny? And then like you made me laugh in a real way because I

was like, oh gosh. I mean it was like and you hear this all the time, but like do you hear it all the time? Well, I think it's great. I mean I think it's really nice too. You know, it's really nice. But I guess what I'm asking is like, do you like do like younger gaze, Like, do they come up and appreciate you for what you have done? Yeah,

it's wonderful. I was going to say, you might hear this all the time, but of just in terms of representation blah blah blah, but like in terms of Asian people, that was I mean, Margaret was like one of the only examples for a very long time about Asian people in in show business that who didn't have to like know a martial art to like what I'm saying. That was a huge deal. Thank you, Thank you. Anyway, Um, should we do a quick quick ground if I don't

think so, honey, we'll do a quick round. We're gonna do a quick round of I don't think so honey, which, by the way, y'all should definitely. I can't believe I sometimes say y'all. That's a Kelly Clarkson thing. That's being an eleven year old, twelve year old seeing her say y'all, and it became a part of my life. I'm from Long Island. Yeah, it's Margaret and Cally for this point. So you all should um buy tickets to our show. It's on March sixteen. I don't think so honey, Live

at the Bellhouse. You guys, amazing people are gonna be on it, just to name of you. Dul Say Sloan, Jacquelnovak, Oh my god, Nathan Lee Graham, Nathan Gave more to be announced very soon. This is I don't think so honey. It's one minute to go off on culture of while repeating the phrase I don't think so honey. Matt w you want to start. I think you have something. I have a vague idea, but that's okay. I'll let passionately the way. This is Matt Rodgers as I don't think

so honey. As time starts, I don't think so honey. You don't respond to my emails. They're always important. If you open the email and you and like it's like a long block of text, it's important email, Like, respond to my emails. I could be asking you something very important. I could be in a lot of trouble. I don't know if my instinct would be to take to email if I was ever in a I for a death situation, but it could be. Please read and respond to my emails. Everyone.

When you don't respond to my email, it makes me feel small, and I feel that's amazing that it's thirty seconds left. This was such a simple one, but you got to keep going. Okay, so listen. I feel like, especially recently we've been asking people to come out and do our life show, you could be missing out on the opportunity to have a one minute of your evening

on a stage. I mean also, like, let me let me just tell all the comments we're asking we you know, it's one minute, but it's gonna be on a podcast and people are going to listen to it. So understand that this is important. Please respond to my emails. Thank you. Oh boy, I see the thing was I was so like engaged in my idea as I was getting you were living through the pain again totally. That's okay, that's okay, alright, I don't think so, honey, time starts. And now I

don't think so many diners that don't have Chululu. We were just eating at this dinner here in West Niac, lovely diner, Hogan's Diner, but they did not have cholula hot sauce or even a spree watcher or a crystal Louisiana's Finest. They didn't have the actual hot sauces that I want. And I think to be in the restaurant business nowadays, in the food service industry, you have to have these options in terms of something as ubiquitous as

hot sauce. So I don't think, so, honey, these restaurants, any restaurant, any dining establishment that does not have a panopoly of hot sauces. Shall I say? Um? And so listen, here's here's what I want. I want things that range throughout the Scoville scale of hotness. I want things that will give me something vinegary, but other times things that are are giving me the ghost pepper um, you know, spiciness that's coming from you know, the esophagus up. It's

an aftertaste that ghost pepper. So I don't think so honey, these hot these restaurants that don't have all these hot sauces. I am a sophisticated bitch. That's one minute. Okay, wow, that can go no, please please, And you were nodding. I was really into it, that feeling. Thank you to options. I used to work at a seafood restaurant that had the walls lined with hot sauce. So if you want hot sauce out of Brooklyn Crab in Red Hook, New York,

um Rock, that's that's a really that's a good area. Yeah, yeah, he works there. It's a really good the best, like one of the best sandwich places, Dante's is Dante's. Yeah, it's been there since eighteen eighty seven or something. Have you been there since seven? I think so. Yes, Italian immigrants came. Yeah, they call everything gravy, which I like. In where I'm from in Philly, we call sauce gravy. Yeah, everything's gravy, red gravy, brown gravy, you know, blush gravy,

beige gravy. Everything's just gravy. It's all gravy because you know, okay, rock out We're gonna put you on for one minute, just for anything and all it came the good at it man, that this is this is just what we do this business. Okay, all right, I don't think so, baby. Is that what I think? Whatever LGBT inside you? Okay, Rocco stays. I don't think so many. As time starts now, I don't think so honey. That belt in them shoes

they don't match. You know how? Come on a strake, guy, and I'm looking at you, going you need to up through your fashion. I don't think so, honey. Why is the the the the planes that you fly on so disgusting? We should all boycott with picket signs before we get in the plane. I have a rash on the small on my back. It's it's lumpy, and it's from these planes are so disgusting. There's urine on the seats. I gotta go in there with windex and clean it off.

I don't think so, honey. We're paying eight thousand dollars a month for tickets and we can't get a clean bathroom on an airplane. Um, I don't think so, baby. Why the why the FBI spend thirty hours on the n C double A and only five hours on the Florida shooting. What is going on? Why is the FBI talking to college basketball? And and and don't buy anything? Well, look read stuff with raspberry. I don't think to raspberry flavoring on stuff because it's actually beaver Pista. That's one minute,

multiple topics, and many items of knowledge learned. Chank you, thank you, rockro. I didn't know that about raspberry flavoring. What the raspberry? So they say natural raspberry flavors. Yeah, so look at the labels. Beaver pist will always have a little bit of beaver coming in. Yeah, yeah, if you're you know, okay, Margaret, are you are you ready ready? This is Margaret Shows. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. I'm never

going to go on a juice fast. Never. No, that is just a recipe for disaster. I shit enough as it is. I mean, I'm constantly shitty. But you know, you add some lemon juice and cayenne pepper and maple syrup be onto that. It's it's not it's not gonna be pretty. It's it's like when you ship on a juice fast kind of cleanse that it takes all of the ship for that kind of holds you together. Like that's that's keeping you upright, you know, Like I think

that's what keeps our poster good. Is this ship that's like caked in your in your intestines. It just keeps you standing up. So if you want to be an invertebrate, if you want to just have no bones, you going fast. But I'm not one minute. Oh my god, your ship gives you poise, keeps you up right. That's why they call the undergarments. Was just listening to um when you talk about dancing with the stars, about how that local coach made just follow the olive oil, and you were

shooting fine, fine mess. I think I think Margaret is one of the pre eminent fecal comedians. Yeah, but you will talk about your ship in the way that it is actually very very liberating and refreshing, thank you and sexy, sexy shaking. And I first learned what colonic irrigation was as a thirteen year old listening to Oh I love it, Yes, And I was like, I have to know what that is. I'm not even sure I knew what you were talking about.

But I knew that it interested me fecally, intellectually, actually interested. Okay, well, Margaret and Rock, we have to go, but thank you so much for doing this. Is so really pleasure to be on here. Thank you, Thank you. Check out their show Fresh off the Bloat and I will see you next time. By This has been a Forebber Dog production

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