"Darn Barney The Dinosaur (Matt and Bowen Are High Again)"

snaggly ones. Mama. The magic they're able to do with surgery. Now we could get sort of hair plugs for your face. How about that? No way, I'm not getting no plugs on my upper lip. It aged you up about fifteen years, it really did, and give you this sort of authority that was That was I guess intrinsically sexual that I think took America by storm. Well, it defined my jawline because I think it was able to break like the um shapelessness of it, and then it actually like made

it like, oh it's there. It's like excavated the fucking thing for all to see, Like it was Jurassic park like they do. They donite They exhumed your face. Yes, the fucking mosquito was in the amber all along. It was startling to watch. I I really really enjoyed it. An the episode overall was super fun. I thought it was a really fun episode. I thought, I'm not going to shade them, but the air audience was bad. Actually that's not that's not even shade. That's just that's that's

just how it's been these last four shows. We don't have to talk about it. Well, they were dead during her monologue, for sure, dead during her monologue, but they were just I mean, I don't know, Like I don't know these these crowds. I get it though, like there it's probably just bizarre them to be there. But they they know what it is. They signed up for these tickets. I don't know. I don't. I'm not. I don't mean to like create drama with the drama with the crowds,

acrimony with the crowds. This is the danger between you and me and and and the danger that's in these episodes that are just doing me is that we get a little too unfiltered. Well, it's because it's us truly catching up and also I'm about to I'm about to step into another zone because I am going to get stoned again. Um, but yeah, absolutely, well that's actually kind of my life. I actually have to get my lighter hold on. Can you talk to them for a sight? Yeah? Okay,

so I was considering smoking reader for this one. But um, I'm holding my eight pen in my hand and I'm looking at it very re pensively. While I tell you that I might do it too, I might as well join in on. I mean, look, Quimby's dead. Okay, yes, we're We're just kind of like this is gonna be our memorium for Quimby. No, oh my god, No, does Quimby deserve the memorium to you? I mean TV the

I I just like, how do you feel? You know, I've known the writing has been on the wall for quite some time, That's right, And I just feel like, I don't know. There's lots of things I would have maybe done differently on their end, but I'm not I'm not like I don't know how to run a fucking business. I like, I don't know anything. But ultimately, end of the day, I'm happy that they put game show on.

I like, what it is on the on the Quimby app, but I'm excited to potentially take it out and do it as an actual half hour show, which I think is what it is. To me. It's just like feels jammed into like the seven minute format, And I was never excited about the seven minute format. I thought it was going to be more eight to ten minutes stuff, and then we things ended up getting shorter and shorter, but it was ten all from the beginning, I of was supposed to be ten, and that actually felt like

a nice Goldilocks like perfect number. I was excited about a ten minute thing, and then a lot of the scripted stuff was able to stay at that length, and then for whatever reason, the unscripted stuff all got shorter and shorter, and that to me, I don't love like to to me. Sometimes I watched some of the some of the episodes we were doing, and it's just like they cut all the breaths out, and I'm like, Okay,

this movie this is like moving too fast. So I'm excited about potentially doing it somewhere else where it can breathe and I can there can be more of the relationship stuff with me and Dave and just more of us having fun and less like it's moving forward. It's moving forward, it's moving forward, because it just felt manic,

especially like in like an immobile world. Like I guess maybe we we we would have liked it as like a as like a large consumer base if we were actually we're watching it mobile on the go, But then the world changed and so we were all kind of watching it on our phones inside our houses during the second month of the pandemic. I don't know. I feel like if there, if there was adjusting to be done to sort of suit that new situation, maybe it was

too late. Um. I feel bad for everyone that works there that lost their job, because I think everyone took a big risk to work there, and there's a lot of amazing people that work there that I'm grateful for that really cared about our show, and and I like our show a lot, and I show and uh yeah, But ultimately it's it's sad whenever anything just fails. But I will say it's it was hard not to join it on a lot of the Quimby jokes over the past seven months because I was trying to be a

company man. Sure you had some liberated tone in your tweets I saw ever since, ever since the Quimby announcement. Well, I had to. I had to delete them, you did, yeah, because Variety like this is was weird. So I tweeted like a bunch of jokes about Quimby, like it was

I was really kidding. I like the tone of my tweet, And then like there was this huge paragraph and Variety that was me being like they were like a game show host Matt Rogers, and I was a little embarrassed that, like they were putting this comment from me in Variety which was like a joke, And I said, I was excited to take it elsewhere, which I am now that now that Quimby is not a thing, I'm excited about the life of the show going forward. But it just I had ended up having to delete the twee it.

So I guess lesson learned about just tweeting, shooting from the hip varieties watching I don't think so, honey, Variety for like pulling like just thinking, like making news out of people's tweets. I know, I know it sounds normal. Well, tweets are the public record, I know, but they've done that with me where it's like they've built a whole headline around like two things I had written in a day.

I just I'm just annoyed whenever they do that, because I'm like, oh yeah, because that's how I feel about it too, where the medium is so stupid and dumb and like I'm not meant to be taken seriously in the first place at this point, Like I don't know who's like really taking Twitter seriously. It's just pure chaos, right, It's not even like no one's there to like make

a career out of like writing jokes on Twitter. And it's not like Twitter Bird that was like the peak of like comedy job hiring, like outlet you know remember that time, Yeah, when it was like, well, what's their Twitter following? What's that like? It was kind of felt like you could get jobs based on Twitter. I think a lot of people did. Now it's just like Twitter to me, it's like a zoo with no enclosures. It's

just it's just completely unregulated wild West. Any old fucking thing can go on, you know what I mean, And like I could say something on this podcast, and you could say something on this podcast and no one cares because you can literally hear in the human voice like some sort of like knowing this or irony, and on Twitter you say that same thing and it is a whole different thing. I just think we live in a

very sick world. But whatever. Literally last week we said, I said, I'm I'm gonna take the hit on this if anyone wants to hit us on this. I said, if Megan mccainn comes on the show and he's able to charm us and get us to say we actually like her, that we would kill ourselves. And know everyone, no one picked that up, no one. If we had

tweeted that, it would have been yeah, forget it, disastrous. Um. Also, I don't know, just following up on our conversation from last week, so I don't know if I qualify myself in a particularly dark place. But it hasn't been like a good couple of weeks, so so for me, like since last week, I made the mistake because I hadn't done this in a while. I was like, I wonder if people are still engaging on Twitter about like hot dog.

So I searched the hashtag hot dog and there was this this person said, there's one thing I can't stand about hot dog, And I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, and they used the hashtag and I respond, and I saw the person followed me, and I responded, it's me, isn't it, And like a bunch of people liked it, and he goes well, and then there was replies to the tweet that said is it something that's

easily excitable? And the person replied it thinks it's a lot funnier than it is, and then someone else, and then someone else said, yeah, it's mouth could be used better if it weren't talking like someone Basically, I should be sucking dick instead of talking, hosting a show whatever. It's not even that clear because I don't I don't

even know what the funk they're talking about. And it's those fucking d plus jokes quote unquote you you you If you said that to Matt's face in the room and I was there, I would knock your fucking teeth out. So I engaged. So the guy who did the initial tweet, honestly, I support you engaging. But yeah, so basically, like, I'm fully insane right now and at this point in my life, so I was just like, you know what, I'm gonna

make this person feel really bad. For saying this because I saw the person followed me and had recently retweeted me, so so I know that they're like someone who hates me. So I I literally said, what is it? Is this me you're talking about? And the person that originally tweeted goes, l O L No, I'm talking about the fact that, um, your job is so fun, like I'm so jealous, and then he hid their all the replies and I said, l O L at you hiding the replies. I'm fully

in it. I'm fully engaging at this point. So I got it d M S because I want him to sort of feel what it would feel like if someone he targeted online actually saw it. So I said, come on, that was mean, and he responded and he was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry literally quite literally, it's just because I'm jealous. And I was like, why would you? I was like, I don't do this, like what is for anything other than what I'm just trying to have fun and like to make people smile, Like it's like,

why would you do that? And he he goes, I'm sorry, it was so stupid. I fell into the trap and I was like, it is a trap. What trap? What's the trap that's laid out for someone like them? Though I don't understand anyway. So I was just like I felt like I was at that point. We were kind of on the same page, and I was kind of saying, like, you know this, this it will make you feel so much better. It will feel so much better to be supportive and positive, because like you used the hashtag you wanted.

You wanted this in a way, you wanted it to be filed away. And he was only apologetic and he was like, I'll take it down. He took it down, and honestly, I was ended with us kind of being He was like, I'm a fan, I liked game show. I subscribed to Quimby because of it. Like, I don't know why I did that. I think it was just like you punched back at the thing you like a little bit. I was like, okay, that's fine, love you bye. I don't know what that means. I actually don't. I

reject that apology. I'm so sorry, but that makes zero sense, but keep going. I was thinking about it, and I was like, you know what to On some level, everyone is guilty of this to some extent, Like even last week on this podcast, I dragged Kristin Stewart. I was like, she's the most grounded actress because she's not doing anything, And then I thought to myself, to be honest with you,

it's the same sort of deal. So there's something to be to be learned from it on a personal level as now, except you didn't like post that clip to Twitter and then hashtag. That's the thing is, it's like, I don't know, like you know, there's this is the

fundamental difference is that that person. We're not all guilty of this the same level because some it's sometimes you and I will get to say a caddy thing to each other and keep it to our fucking selves, Okay, and I'm sorry that maybe this person in that month I've you know, I'll talk about, you know, rowing on Great British Bake Off or whatever, and that's like maybe the same thing. But I'm not I'm not like hashtag

and g b b oh. I'm not like making sure it gets filed away in the system of this medium that like makes it maybe inadvertently seen by someone who's involved. I don't know, I don't know. Anyway, you were you were saying something positive I'm like, so on one, I'm so cranky today. I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I also think, like when I see that, it's just like it just puts a little cloud over your day. Of course, And then I literally said the jol the

other day. I was like, part of me doesn't even know if I'm cut out for this if on this say literally it's I said to my church, I know he's gone through it with like Sonny Side too and etcetera. Just being out there. It's like it's a lot when you put yourself out there and people can just make any old comment, like and you don't know what is earned and what's not because you're you, you know what I mean. And we laughed about it, but I it

is like a part of the whole thing. I've literally been staring at Trick Mirror and I'm afraid to start reading it because I'm afraid of how deep this all goes, you know what I mean. To start, she doesn't just talk about um that. She just she talks about like the Internet as a concept, which is great, and then like the rest of the book sort of is in that neighborhood, but just you'll you'll love it. It's great, she writes, so well you you you'll really dig it. Reader.

We're sorry for coming in with like a really cantankerous energy, but I think this is something that is sort of the theme right now for us because we are kind of just sitting at home and watching What's What's What's that? I mean, Anna just said, our producer said. This is why Phoebe weller Bridge refuses to have social media. She says she is too sensitive for the critiques. Honestly, I think it's like it's not natural to be this vulnerable

to critique, you know what I mean? Like the social media thing is I did so much like that's the thing as as artists, as people who are doing this, there's something intrinsic about us that is super sensitive and like emotional, and so for us to be this sort of aware of what everyone thinks is not natural and like people throughout time havn't had to deal with this

aspect of no um. This is what we talked about in therapy this week, where my impulse to like just care about what the audience things is rooted in like this this thing where it's just it's a result of me like prioritizing um an audience response over my own like rubric of whether or not I did well. So like this week at this show, I mean like I didn't have anything in the show that was mine that like I wrote, but I was just like I just

tried not to care as much this. I hope this is like a little incremental step in the right direction where I was just like, oh, you know, I'm not gonna like because I still did every now and then, but like so it's it's all I'm weaning off of it. But it's like, you know, as long as I feel like I did well, then that's all that matters. And it is it. It's it's not as simple as that, but I feel like that's the right way to go.

And also for me, like growing up and then working to to sort of pound the pavement in comedy for a while after college, that whole period was for me, like me sort of pursuing comedy in a place that was laden with shame and like people being like, wait, you want to what, Oh you're a comedian, Okay, got it, Well, good luck with that, and even like parents being like,

we don't know about this. Um and then for that to suddenly flip and have it be like the only source of like accomplishment that I sort of experienced or

like dealt with. That happened so quickly that I am still catching up to that place and I'm still kind of working in like a shame world, and so I'm like, I just want to and like the way that like people, certain people define shame is that it's like not wanting to know what people say about you when you're not in the room, and so I'm kind of like trying to like swim up against that and be like, but I want to know what people are saying about me

when I'm not in the room. So I think this is so reader, thank you for like listening to us sort of indulge ourselves in this conversation. But I think it's it's an interesting one to have. It's for me. It's so like it's this thing that I'm going through, and it does and it does occupy a lot of

brain space. I think also because of quarantine and not having a lot else to do, you're able to just sit in one thing because you're not busy, like to be like, the only thing I have going on right now is a lot is nothing because of quarantines, aggressive taking of the things. Yes, I just want to bring up one bring it up. This is This is a

little mean, and it is definitely punching down. And I would I might even have been punching down to that person who like tweeted it at you who used the hashtag No I'm not that wasn't no, No, actually no that's not that's not that way. I have no idea what to qualify it. And that's why I know it's something I don't want to deal with anymore. Sure I I saw someone the other day tweet like, God, it's I'm all for lgbt Q, I A plus representation and

POC representation. Not an Asian person by the way. But then they say, it's really disappointing that at bow and Yang uses like only uses his platform to like perpetuate stereotypes about his race and his sexuality or whatever. What is going on? So so for a non Asian person to be like he's perpetuating stereotypes, like, I'm like, I don't want you to be the person the arbiter of

what is an Asian stereotype, sir. And then I went over to his sucking profile and his bio is like a photographer an a gunkle, And I was like, bitch, your whole exists is on the nose. If you're gonna include gunkle in your you can be a gun. I'm don't perpetuate anything about me, like like stagnating the identity cause of what being gay is to you, like don't like who there is. There is something I kind of hate just about the concept of stereotypical just stereotype as

concept I think is kind of bullshit. Yeah, it's just first of all, it's actually real culture number eighty three. You can't be a gun. You can't be gon and criticized. Cannot be a gun and criticized at all. You're not in that position. You can be a gay uncle criticism if you if you self identify as a gun, shut the funk up. I don't want to hear what you have to say, uncle, unless it's some sort of new treat out that's like a gum chocolate. That's what gunkle

sounds like it should be to me. Unless it's that, I don't want to think about it. Gounles. Okay, she's arrived at being very stoned. You sound dumb. You sound Um, I feel bad that we come in with the dark energy, but isn't it you know, and like, I feel like it's a thing though we are. I am feeling a not a depression, but a depression in terms of like

I U, I don't like to be like this. Yes, you know, maybe it's seasonal and maybe and honestly, the election is fully now, so that's really what it all is, just like the doomsday around the whole situation. Like, readers, maybe we should reach out to you right now and say this, if you're feeling a malaise and you're feeling bad and you're feeling like ship, you are not alone. Let's just say that to to sort of funnel it into a productive moment. Yes, and we hope you are care.

There you go, you can. I can. I tell you something that made me happy last night. I felt into this wormhole, which was watching pop stars and music stars watch people cover their songs. Oh yeah, I'm familiar with this. To me, this was a serotonin boost mom like because watching like the these up and coming artists and singers like get the criticism from like like some woman getting a like a positive critique from Christina Aguilera on her

cover of Beautiful. That woman was von Zel Solomon. By the way, Yeah, it's like von Zell's cover of Beautiful, and Christina's like Bonzell. It's amazing your riffs or Whitney esque, You're stunning, like your voice is so effortless and beautiful. And watching them received that notice from this person they obviously idolized was heartwarming, and I celebrate. I believe I think it might have been like, I don't know what what website it was on, Like I want to say,

Vogue something like that. That's wrong, Vogue. Um sorry, I've I've I've arrived at being stoned and also tired, and I don't I was gonna, like make up a fake website that you would have found that video on. And all I could do, you know, all you could do was turn to absolute soup Vogue. I also have you seen Okay, never mind, I don't want to get shot, but you know what, you know, I am gonna be shady. I fell into a seventy three questions wormhole because I

love seven folks. Seventy three questions. I mean, no bitch, why I will get to more at though? Because we've both seen and we loved, which the seventy three questions did you watch? Girl? I found first of all, there's there's Architectural Digest home tours and there's seventy three questions. Both of these things are amazing and I want to shout out the Architectural Digest hometour of Patrick dem See. I am throbbing for him. He has never looked better

in his life. McDreamy is getting better with age. And if you want proof, watch the Architectural Digest home tour of Patrick Dempsey. That man is smoking hot. But volgus seventy three questions, I unfortunately stumbled upon Neil Patrick Harris is and I it was, it was. There was some cringe moments. Oh no, okay, So first of all, let's pause. Are we are we doing the hashtag hot dog equivalent

of this with Neil Patrick Harress? Do we have to do this every single time we talk about someone who's more This is why social media is bad and I'm I'm gonna bring it back because we even have to have this discussion because let me say something, as Americans, as gay Americans, we should be able to say the Neil Patrick Harris volus seventy di questions, was cringe, that should be an American bright? So social media getting my head about about saying that there's a problem. I ra

u is that question? But I think I already know the answer. It's so it is sort of rhetorical in a way where I am like, I think that it is not like literally this is me and my rhetoric and saying that we're not like kind of crossing her fingers making sure it gets seen. But but it's because we secretly like him, like no, that's so warped to me, I will not get over this person. You you you you you. If you're listening, I'm going to beat the ship out of just kidding. We're just continuing the game

where we threatened our listeners. And anyway, it crossed the line when they said his mouth should be used for something else other than talking. I was like, I'm sorry. And then if you're quoting, if you're quoting directly, they used it pronouns well, I mean just because they were. They guess they really didn't really want it to be vague. I don't know about that. It was as soon as you call someone else and it I'm like you you that is literally dehumanizing and you should go fuck yourself,

you know what. This is the thing, and like, I don't have to reserve empathy for every single even as a socialist who wants human liberation, I don't have to. I don't have to reserve empathy for every single person on this planet, especially when they fucking endanger someone else's Okay, and that is that I might I might be taking this too far, but that but refer to someone as an it is a form of endanger ment. Honey, we have to we have to delete, So we have to delete.

It's so bad. This is it's so bad because guess we could just be having a whole other discussion. Okay, babe, listen, do you know what you know what I've done with the Instagram that I think has helped loads loads, loads loads on the on the new iOS. So this is from my iPhone users on the new I o S. There's a thing called the app library where you can hide little screens, like you know, certain pages of apps you can just hide and so it won't chop on

your screen. So I deleted Instagram, but I kept it in my app library, and then I've turned off notifications as well, so those are the two things that have to happen, two important things that each sort of helped the other. Take it off your home screen and then

um turn notifications off. So that way I have to like consciously pull down my you know, spotlight search and then type in Instagram to open it, and then I only see like, you know, the notifications that have like accumulated since the last time, and then I see like a couple d M s maybe, and I'll go, Okay, this is all manageable, and it's not me constantly constantly, constantly pacifying myself with this stupid fucking app with pictures. So that's my little tip to you and to the

reader's Matt to maybe do that. I mean, I've deleted other apps too. I fully deleted the sex dating app everyone because it was just so worthless, so worthless, waste of time. Yeah. I deleted Ryan because I realized I was like, wait a minute, I only get yeah, you were having a Ryan moment. Because Nicole Buyer says this too. It's like that she was on the wait list for years same. I remember that, and then when she got on it, I was she was like, oh, I'm not

matching with anybody because it's all burners. Who fucking we're just burners. I'm sorry anyone who goes to Burning Man, thank you for listening. Um, but that is like the crowd, that's like the VI and it's just like so like and like the music taste on these people. I gotta shut it down. I'm so sorry that you were still listening to I can't even make up, but I can't even make up a band right now, you're still listening

to fucking like um passion Pit. I don't know, but the thing is exactly no, but we love passion Pit. But that's it. N it took you a minute, you really, you were soaring in the air there we were in and then you not yuck the landing passion Pit and the one tend that I feel like I'm dating on

Tinder in college again, you know what I mean. It's like it took me back to that place of like, let's go grab an I p A. You know what I mean, Like you literally know what I'm talking about, though, I absolutely do, And I do know how many I p s I've drank with men. Oh no, too many, so many beautiful beautiful voice, your voices, you've never sounded better you know before. Thank you for saying that. And

I'm really proud of my Zip recruiter hook. Yes, you might not listen to it on this episode, but if you get the first of all, we all we also have to talk about the ad choices on Can we be transparent for a second. We are getting a lot of feedback that the U. S. Military is sort of advertising on this podcast. Mama, that's going to be an I Heart Radio thing and not allows culture is this thing, but we do we we take enough responsibility to to flag this to our producers so they can get to

the bottom of what the hell is going on. Apparently with this military ad, this recruitment ad that you only do it, but so no one at I Heart knows how it made it onto the episode. We've told them in the past that we do not want that kind of advertising on our on our show. So we're so sorry that made its way to your ears. Um Our values do not align with the military industrial complex in

any way. So that there you have it. Oh, so, just want to say, if ever there's an ad that's like scary, get a lot of listeners saying there's so many scary ads on my sculturis that's like the beginning, like like a very like sort of in depth description of how a murderer happened. I'm very, very very concerned about that aspect, and because I want the last cultures, this listening experience to be, you know, peaceful, even as we threatened to beat this. If ever our audience feels endangered,

I want that to be very explicitly clear. That's coming from us, you know what I mean, not exactly exactly, um, but we but but that's full transparency for you. Matt, I think was going to bring up how he made up a jingle for ZIP recruiter that I think is just beautiful. Oh it's to me, it's it's the new bop. It's not as good as better help, as better help, well you know it will be. We're every ways to

be saying. I don't think it's as simple as better help. Yeah, better help is beautifully simple if you need help better Okay, So then this is what I wanted to bring up. I began better help. I actually started doing it. Yes, peek behind the curtain. Sometimes when we say we've used things for ads, were lying a peek behind the curtain. No,

I always try out samples if get them. But um, I started using it and it's weird, like you text a bunch of the beginning with the with the person, and I'm like trying to move it to video, but I feel nervous about moving video dating, and I'm like, maybe is that like a thing I need to talk about the fact that I'm like nervous to move this to video. I don't know. No, I don't think it's worth talking. I think that's just probably just a procedural

thing with the app. But yeah, I mean I I would say stick with it until you get to the video stage, and then even after that, I would say, like maybe put in two or three sessions unless you immediately know that it's not going to work, that it's not I'm kind of like going back and forth about it because I feel like the questions have been very general, and I think he forgot one big thing that I told him, so I was like, I don't know, maybe

I might switch. Yeah, if there are mental health professionals in the Los Angeles area who can recommend to Matt Rodgers someone who is doing telehealth UM sessions. And it's also I was gonna sit outside I mean, I think that people can go. I think about it though, if you went over to someone's house and sat in their backyard six ft away, you know what I mean, if they have that, I don't know why I picture in

my head therapist living in these gorgeous homes. I'm picturing like my therapist, like a Martha Stewart's style, like eight hundred acre home, like like in um Nicole Kidman's seventy three Questions that a farm, like a farm Tina Phase office in season two of Kimmi Schmidt, when she plays a therapist, it's just so gorgeous until she and like, I'm like, that's like t that's like TV therapist, you know,

it's like like in like a sweater cave. Oh my god, there Molly's therapist and Insecure, it lives in the most gigantic, gorgeous house you've ever seen. And I'm just like, I wonder if that was like a deliberate choice, like walks regal Lux in the ariest, most naturally lit house I've ever ever ever ever ever seen, and I want to live there so badly. Like I know, if I did therapy in an open room with high ceilings, it would be an immediate breakthrough. If I'm doing therapy like in

a little box, it might take a while. That's right. I need to feel. You need to feel the glamour and the light, the light. It's true. Natural light's very important to me. It's not something that I always I just talked about all the time, but natural light's very important to me. You haven't brought this up and talk about why natural light is important to you. Oh, I love it. It's it's I feel more creative when there's more natural light. Yes, come on, I can't. That's why

New York is like not happening. You're always in like a like a dim orange light in New York. You know what I mean. Like the PM times in New York they're not I know they're not. So it's so cramped, like every every light feels artificial. That's I guess that's another reason why I like l A. It's just more in touch with daylight. Oh, we're about to come up. We're coming up on daylight savings time. Mother, mother gesture. I mean this is really going to function up for me.

I oh see, I'm like kind of an election is gonna The election is gonna happen two days later. I am, you're gonna see my moods dip even lower if they haven't bottomed out already, dear moods, is November seven the last show? Yes? Until yes, getting one in after the election, one in after the big event. You know that's gonna be something or yeah, we'll see, we'll see. What was

I gonna bring up? Oh? Um, well, as soon as you commit to a therapy fist, I will append my end of the well I was going to bring that up.

The thing is, um, I don't know whether to be strided on you with this anymore, because I know that you're in a stressful situation and you need your little vices so but no, but it is bad for you, and I do wish for you to stop, Like I wish that you could, you know, get those vices out by exercising, you know, like like a fring for a brief run, or you know, like cooking a meal or drawing a piece of art, like get your stress out

in one of those healthy ways. But then again, I'm just like whatever, no, no, no, I I did that that. I don't want to make excuses for it, and you should hold me accountable as a friend, I'm holding you accountable. Then okay, fine, I'm firmly on the other side of it. Now. If I even hear whispers and I have other contacts at your job that you've been stepping out to take a cigarette break, who said this, Reces revealed them. I'm I mean, I have you know who my sources are,

but I don't know. I don't think they're the ones that I think are the source. I don't think too hard. I'm not telling you that she isn't. I'm saying I can find out. I have the ability to find out. I'm not saying she said anything. M but I know. The thing is, the thing about me is it always gets back to me, and you should fear me, and you should fear me. I don't understand the people who say that, you know, there's always been people who've been

like that. I genuinely believe that I always know when this is happening. Yeah, I'm like, what do you mean? Like you like weird everywhere? I'm like, are you checking in with I'm like, what is your system of means that whenever anyone says that, it means that they are a huge ship talker. It means that they personally, in their bones have the impulse to gossip. Oh, yes, that's it, that's absolutely true. But we're gossips. We're gossips. But we are we are, we are. There's no but and there's

no reason to qualify it. Yeah. Um, don't tell me nothing. Don't tell me nothing. Sometimes when you know what we know, there's there's no other recourse but to gossip. You have no other option but to gossip. I mean, come on, spread the word spread. Did you know this a new clip lash out? I heard. I was the one who texted the threat. I was like, guys, there's a new UM and jack Box party pack number seven. We should organize um a clip lash moment soon or you know what?

Like I actually I am at this point now where I kind of want to get into video games, like but I wonder if that would see it would just be another thing to occupy time with. It isn't social

media while I'm in the house. I agree, if if, if you subscribe to replacement theory with or just replacement and as a concept in terms of addiction, because I do think I feel like I am dealing with this with an addiction to social media I can very parallel lines it against my addiction to cigarettes that you have to you kind of have to replace it with something. So I feel like this is a great, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful option for you. And oh my god, you saying

that excites me so much. I think that actually I haven't said one other thing on the pod that happened, which is contributing to all this, I think in a major way, which is that I think I can say this, Jared and I did break up, But the thing is, like, um, it wasn't dramatic or anything or weird or anything, but that is something that that happened, and we're still extremely close and he was he's literally the best person, but

it still did happen. And sometimes I I don't remind myself that that's true when I'm like wollowing and whatever, I'm like, well, this did just happen. So it just happened. And you have been very human and like emotionally in touch with yourself and with Jared throughout this whole process,

so of course you're going to be affected by it. Yeah, just because it just because it wasn't dramatic doesn't mean that it's not um impactful, you know, also quarantine, just like because when you're in a relationship and quarantine, that's like it's the persons in everyday presence in your life. And so when that changes, it's like it's still tough. Like I keep my heart keeps going out to like

anyone that's going through a divorce at this time. Like sometimes I see that Kelly Clarkson is doing so many things and like she's so everywhere right now, and I know she's going through that, and I'm just like I hope that she this is all productive. I'm sure that being like working um so much is like something that's

really helping her. And like I know she loves her kids so much, but I my heart just goes out to her and anyone that's like had a substantial, like years long relationship that ended because of this, because it makes the whole thing feel even more Why the fund did we have to go through this? Frustrate it with like the fact that there's no leadership, etcetera. This has to be such a crazy fucking time, such like a cosmic shift that we went through. Seriously, I know, I know,

I have nothing to add, It's it's just unfortunate. Yeah, and then I remember, like, I am grateful that I've gotten to work and stuff. So it's just and you're working like you're a damn rated. Well, here's here's something

busy as a damn rat. Here's something I want to bring up because I feel like in some way me posting about going to work and doing my job is it might like stir up emotions in certain people, not in the same justifiable ways it would stir up someone who would use a hashtag for a show after they whatever. I can't get over this person, well because because I saw someone, I saw someone posted this and I don't know how to feel about this because I can see

I can see both sides of it. Someone posted um a thing sing that I most I generally agree with, but they were like um on. I don't remember who, but it was an actor someone who um someone noting I don't think, I don't I don't even think they were.

But that doesn't matter. It's not really They posted something on Instagram that was like, hey, guys, for anyone who's posting their self tapes right now, just know that it's really triggering for people who can't find work as as artists and actors and like really start to ask yourself who that's for, like blah blah blah blah blah blah. Is this just like you like trying to like self indulge or whatever, which is like that's the whole point of social media in a lot of ways, that's one

function of it. But so I understand that it's triggering to like, I don't know, flaunt the fact that you're getting opportunities, but even the audition itself is not an opportunity and intrinsically but anyway, But then the other side of it is like who cares. It's like you're you're not like there's just too much and there's too much. This is all leading me back, which is there's just too much. They're like social media is evil, Like if you feel that I shouldn't have to know that, you

know what I mean? Like as as someone who has I did it like a bit about a self tape once and then you're saying, do I have to feel bad about doing that? Like for me, it's just for me. Literally everything I post is just to like for people that follow me to see it, because I think they'd get like something a kick out of it or whatever or like or like whatever, like it's not all all solely for you, you you know what I mean? Like of

course it's part of the disease. Like there's vanity in the posting of it all and like the sharing of it all. But not everything is like nefarious, you know, like and doesn't. I just would hope that people that are going to say something like that would stop and think first about why they need to say that, you know what I mean? Like is that something they need to say? Yeah? Yeah, kind of. I mean I don't think. I don't, like, why are you bothered about that? Just

don't follow the person? You know? Sure, sure, that's the choice you can make. Mm hmmmm. And then the message that you sent could be in the unfollow of it all. But people want to get their voice art And I can't stop thinking about that person, and I actually should should evict that person from my mind, um because but they wouldn't. They wouldn't be there if it weren't for social media. So I don't know, I'm just talking myself into eventually getting into it all. But can I tell

you something that's also like something I feel. It's like I can delete social because we have to still promote the podcast, and I'm like, you know what, people will find the podcast. That's what I'm saying, You will find the podcast. And I even had that thought too, where I'm like, oh, you know, like is this a weird

fixture in my social media? Now I'm not a weird fixture because this is just something that I'm gonna be expected to do every single week, um, And I feel like the people who will listen to it will listen to it. And I feel like we're even were the way we get new listeners. Sorry readers were just talking about like growth right now, But the way we get new listeners is from like doing other shows and like

being another things. It's not even it's we're not getting more listeners from the posts, you know what I'm saying. I think that like there's there's like a weird correlation I have in my mind with like the existence and success of things I'm doing with social media. Like I feel like for me, they're like it's that social media is important in a way that's not justified, you know what I mean. I think there's like something playing in and that's just part of the the addiction of it all.

I don't know. It's so it's so interesting and funny that we're talking about this, because even in the days up to recording this episode, I was like, I wonder if on the podcast I'll bring up that, like I'm fully addicted to social like like it's so taking over my life for the past four days. Like that, I was like, I wonder if that's something I can even be honest about because it's so embarrassing, how all encompassing

it is. I get why you would be embarrassed by it, but it's like, for the most part, people our age are kind of that's what it is in similar neighborhoods, like in terms of like are the way we engage with it. We're all kind of like going for that same dopamine hit for the same reasons just about as often as anyone else is doing it. Does that make sense? Like I I felt shameful telling my therapist, Oh, yeah, well, I do this toxic social media behavior this many times

a day and I check social media this often. And then that kind of tied into like my whole impulse around like not caring about how I did in something or how my work is, like how I self assess my work because really, as soon as I walk off stage from my own peace, I'm not thinking about how I did. I'm not I'm not asking myself, how do you think you did? I'm going how are they saying? What are they saying? What they saying? What are you saying? Yeah?

And you know, also, what I'm realizing right now is the relationship you have with social media actually does replace relationships that you have with human beings because it's something It's a relationship that you care about and like invest in. Like every we're all invested in our relationships with social media, and it's just weird. And I think says something about the current time that like I am on social media

caring about that aspect of my life. I think a lot more than I've talked to our care are actively caring about real human relationships in my life that actually matter, are meaningful. And that's when I know that we might be in a situation here that if you really step outside of it is not not going anywhere positive. Exactly.

I like face time with Joel Kim Booster for the first time and in so long last week, and I was like, oh, yeah, like this is what like the friendship is it's not like me and him checking in each on each other's like ends to stories, because even not just feels cursory and it feels like, Okay, I'm not gonna remember this like little exchange that we had in our d MS, like in in two weeks, you know what I'm saying. So it's like this is like

the FaceTime conversation is substantive. It lives in the memory of the friendship in a more significant way than like like a check in over d M is like for some reason feels like so watered down. I don't know, in my in my mind. So yeah, but you're right, it's like we're all invested in in social media as if it's a friendship, as if it's a relationship in the same way that like New York is the fifth character and sex in the City ab so lutely there

and then it's a huge fucking deal. Like it's like it feels like a breakup in the show when Miranda fucking goes to Brooklyn, you know what I mean, Like, uh, like it's a whole thing. Yeah, but it well, she was really being a jerk about Brooklyn, but then when she went there, she truly fell in love and Brooklyn looked so beautiful and so beautiful in the show she like was in Brooklyn Heights. Brooklyn is fucking gorgeous. It's unbelievable. It's the most beautiful. It's the most beautiful. Did you

know that? Um? Out of everyone that quote unquote like is a regular listener of this podcast, Brooklyn is by far the most listeners are in A yeah, see, we love we love you Brooklyn, Brooklyn girls, and more people in Chicago than l A interesting, we love Chicago, we love the Chicago show. I don't think so honey show is so fun. Matt wasn't there. I was not there, but I heard it was great. God posting with Pat is so fun? Is it not? How'm saying with Pat

is so? I mean, can we just say there is not a funnier person on this planet then Pat Reagan absolutely not. I miss him. I see, That's what I'm talking about. I could be spending this time some of more of my time, like seeing what the funk is up with Pat? You know what I mean? Figured Pats off also Pats figured he's figured it out and he's he's he's ever been happier. I think I can speak

on his behalf. I love that, And I have to say also the other thing too, is like I think, like ultimately this is we've been doing this for a while, and you forget like what a social life means, you know what I mean? Like that, especially like when it was a fixture of our lives for so long, Like I don't want to be anxious about seeing other people, you know what I mean? Like I don't want to feel weird about planning a time like it just the

whole thing is just tough. And see, I don't even want to and not to bring this back to this dark darkness in our lives. But I don't want my social life, for my inner actions to be defined by intellectual response to what some fucking idiot says on social media about me, Like I don't want that to take up any space in mind when you know for sure that there are people in your life who fill your who fill it with the opposite of that feeling, and and it's time you could be spending investing in that

and not this. But unfortunately, you know, like as we saw in the Social Dilemma on Netflix, the this is all designed to addict us. You know what, I mean so and and it is working very well. And that's what they say in the documentary. I can believe it's taken us this long and this conversation to bring up this documentary because it's so spells out. Why is that

there is a design element to this. It is addictive by nature, and there's ways to get you more and more addicted that just because we're humans and we are designed to want and need some things, we think we're basically slaves to this thing. Yeah, um, I still have not finished Social Dilema unfortunately, because I maybe have the same attitude that you have towards trick mirror or I'm like, I don't I'm not gonna like what I see. Yeah, it's scary, honestly it's and the thing is I just

have to fucking get over it. But I just know the Social Dilemma like it pretty much spells it all out. And if you if it's gonna help anyone step away from something toxic, and then I really recommend watching it if you need if you're the kind of person who needs to be scared, you need to be scared. Freeder. I'm so sorry I've said this to Math so many times, but Matt will be obsessed with the essay that she writes about when she was on this teen reality show.

I'm gonna start reading it right after this. It's the second one. You're you're gonna love it. Read it tonight, honestly, please do. And it's it's so good. It's and then she writes she has one about ecstasy that's so good. She has one about like Houston, Texas anyway, Um, I was something that we both have watched, though is borat subsequent movie film, Wow, yes, now this is I guess that pretty much the culture of the week. I would say probably at two. And you know, my initial thoughts

are that it is fucking funny. I definitely thought maybe it was a little over long. But the star of it all is miss Maria, who plays his daughter, Maria Bakalova. I bet I think her name is Oh my god, so good. She wasnlie. She to me could take over the world, like she's so brave what she has to do. Those were some scary situations that those are some scary situations.

And for her to be in that room alone with I mean, I'm just talking about the interview portion, for her to like fake that entire interaction, like she was able to get Rudy to the back of to that other room. Yeah. I mean, look, he went in a room with that girl. I understand what a lot of people are saying about the editing of it all, Like, yes, was it edited schoppily like that wants to present something

as truth. Yes, But the fact of the matter is, it's kind of like saying, like, but the stores that burnt down during the protests for George Floyd, It's like, you, guys, look at the bigger issue here. He went into a back room with this girl and it was like lowlights and like we're touching. It was so inappropriate, and also he was making an appropriate comments the whole time. Also not for nothing, but come on, guys, was he really tucking in his shirt? On tucking your shirt or whatever?

Like the whole thing that he doesn't know enough to not be in that situation is very scary. He's one of the most powerful people in America right now, and that he didn't know enough to not be in a situation that even could be presented to us like that in any way is really fucked up. He's a creep.

I'm just amazed by Maria because it's like killed it because just I don't know just and she like gave you a convincing performance as like this daughter who wants to get to know her father, and like that's the defining relate. It felt like a Cormick mccartheaster. It felt like the Road. It felt like this father daughter like traveling together because he's such a genius. He's it's earnest, he's they're really playing the characters and so it really works.

And it's totally so dead on, like they just killed it and casting her too, and and like and we should just talk about maybe the base like reality of Sasha Baron Cohen's characters, which is that they are all yes, they are all so offensive, so offensive, and so he there's there. You can make an argument for all these characters that he should not be playing these characters. But but even with Bruno, I'm like, see that's like such an extreme characature. I love and I think it works.

I think it works. I'm like, you know what, and he's like actually done as like an actor and a performer and like whatever, it's like he has like you can tell he's like a done the work as far as like knowing who that character is. And I think he's even done that with Bora, where it's like he like he learned like Kazak, he like learned like the language, like to play the I'm not saying that gives him a pass, but I'm saying it like he is, he's approaching this in a way that kind of warrants some

some viewing of this. It's also funny. It's like, it's also so fucking funny, and that doesn't matter, Like you have to earn these things. If he was out here doing these things and it was unearned and it wasn't funny, they would we would we would know. We would sniff that out right away. Especially in the year, you sniff that out right away and you're like, oh god, fuck this, dude,

we're not watching this. I fucking love that they turned the sidekicking guy from the first movie into the cat into the love seat in the first scene when he realized his friends there and the penis. I mean, to me, there's almost nothing funnier than in Bruno when the dick is swinging around then a little I thought it was so fucking funny. I mean two seconds and I was laughing, like just as soon as he said like wa wa

we wah was funny. Unfortunately, they also really they really earned in the movie why they were able to even do a second one, because I was thinking, like, oh, how will they do a second one? He's so famous, he can't fool anyone, and then they literally just made that part of the plot, like Bora is very famous. Everyone knows him, so he's like, I need to just and then he gets into guise. Oh so I'm sorry, but it's just the Bora voice thing. It is funny.

I don't know, it's funny. It's so funny, like my life is funny. Again. My wife has always been funny to me, and even when people use it ironically, that's my wife. My wife is comedy, and that's actually really culture number one hundred and four. My wife is comedy, comedy, like my mom is so funny. Gene, first of all, the story book this where about the girl who touches herself and then get swollen China. It's so funny, it's so good. And the babysitter what the babysitter will not

keep you from drowning. You need to learn you're a pretty girl. She was like I was like, oh my god, this person was genuinely touching and she was concerned and so funny. But even even to have Marie, I don't know if it was like Lynell think. I know Lennelle was in the first one and like she kind of was like in on it. I don't, I don't don't.

I haven't heard much about this woman. But I feel like even Maria as the daughter like in the car, was like playing it so real and grounded, like as this girl who's like receiving this like this like kind of attention from someone else that's not her father and like and like not knowing how to process that. I'm like, wait, there are like some really like human things to this. That being said, there were some people on Twitter saying they were crying about the ending, and I don't think

so honey of that. Like, I don't know about crying. It's a nice end. It's a heartwarming ending, but ultimately it's bore at two and we can't be crying. Here's you know what I But maybe maybe maybe it's like maybe it's earned. There's some earned emotion because it's like it's a fourteen year old character at least like from the first movie to now, it's like they've seen Borat as a fixture in the culture. I I'm obsessed with Borat.

I love you. Do you remember the when you remember my ap And this was probably bad of him to do, but my ap European history teacher told us all to go see it. He was we were, We were I think fifteen. Yeah. Dr Fernando was like, you guys have to check out this movie. I mean you really, you really, you really shouldn't go, but like it's gonna be funny, and we were. And then this other guy that taught the school, who was like the a p U S

teacher was also like egging in on. And so all my friends in high school um went to go see it and it was just it was such a cultural yeah moment, like Borat took over. It was so funny in a real way and shocking. Jesse David Fox tweeted this, he was like, my memory of Borat, my memory and conception of or perception whatever of Borat was. It was this cultural phenom amenon and this gigantic smash hit success at the box office, and that made like so much money.

But then actually, if you look at the returns of that week it made it. It didn't really make too much money. That's crazy because because it does seem like it does seem like this monster hit, like he feels just as he feels almost as culturally relevant as Austin Powers, which were actually like huge films. And I will say a big part of me does miss that type of comedy,

like big character comedy, like that's done really well. So the fact that this is back and people seem to be responding to it well, it gives me some hope that maybe we'll see some more character driven stuff going forward, because when that's done well, it's so fun. It's so fun. And that's what I'm saying, like, he does this well.

He does it well. Even when the movie is like a total C plus B B minus, like Bruno, it's not a great film and it's definite, it just kind of loses it loses the plot a little bit, but it's sure funny. It's still so funny. I mean, bring me guests to Know or whatever. One of the guests to Know girls being like abhorted about him, being like do we keep it or abort it? And she's like abhort it? And then when they were talking about how

the fetus needed to lose weight. Like, to me, that was incredibly funny because he got her to do that and that, and it was a comment on what kind of play. It's honestly a genius moment in this quote unquote screenplay because you immediately get like, this is a town where people will do anything to get on, Like they will play a game called keep it or abhort it,

which sets the table. What sets the table for his character so well, and the fact that she's a real person who we many of us watched the reality show about. It's so insane and genius to him to include genius. But they are a screen places because the first boar At was nominated for the Oscar wasn't it was the screenwriting Oscar. Yeah, let me look this up. Oh yeah, that would be good to know. There's been so many great comedy films that have not gotten the um the

screens play Oscar nominations merely just because their comedy. I mean, mean girls should have one. Clueless should be a Screenplay Award Oscar winner. Oh my god, yes, absolutely, yeah, there's just been a lot of good good stuff that it was nominated for. Best Adapted UM. Although but then they departed one of course two seven nine Academy Awards. UM. That's like, you know what other comedy nomination screenplay I

Love My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Oh my god, Nia. Yeah, she deserved it and it was such a like cultural phenomenon. We talked about that that movie almost exclusively on the George Severes episode. That's right, wonderful movie. I love that nom and also of course Bridesmaids and of course Bridesmaids.

I feel like this was a successful sequel to which was not going to be a given and I feel like, yes, like I feel like Sasha Baron Cohen really like stuck the landing, just in terms of making this work and not like fully questioning its existence or like, I like it is a different American now, and it is kind of fun to think about Borat in Trump Country and what he would respond to. I was also thinking about how and I don't mean to be an arc here.

I'm not trying to be narky with this, but when in the film they're like, it's quarantine, we have to shut down, and he likes sort of fully continued, like in going to places where where he was not like, you know, in a public health sense, advised to be with a crew. I was kind of thinking to myself, like, at what point is it like kind of shitty that he's still doing this. But then I was really happy

to have the art. But I feel like in the movie, this is a spoiler for anybody who hasn't watched this, but in the movie when he when like when like Lockdown starts, he's he just lives with the two men in their cabin. And then it's implied that weeks and weeks in Misco because it goes from March, which is un Lockdown started, to June, which is when that rally happens where he finds his daughter again. EL say, there's

there's some spoilers. So it's it's implied that Sasha Baron Cohen as Borat lived in this house with the crew and these two men for three months, which does not add up to me. And I feel like maybe those men were actors. Yeah, I don't want a nark either, but and that shouldn't take away from the sort of art that is bor It makes it even more brave. Really exactly, Oh, they were not actors and he lived with them for five days. Hot executive producer Anna says, Okay, interesting,

do you remember in Bruno this the orgy thing? When he was in that orgy in Bruno when pretending to be straight like there was, he literally had infiltrated a real orgy. And then he keeps trying to like have sex with that one guy and and he's like, pussy, why would I suck you when I could suck And then the woman's like, he's suing pussy. He would like he wants it, doesn't want you, he wants pussy. Okay,

he wants my pussy. There's on the dirtiest mantress on the literally, and then he gets the ship beat out of him by that blood lady. I don't know. To me, it's like pretty, where is the oscars for him? No? Bell Price. I think he is so. I think he's so genius. Did you ever see The Dictator? I actually have not seen The Dictator because I was a little burnt. I was a little burnt out on North Korea comedy

at the time. I feel like it was right after the James franco on, right before it was before really yeah, it was before, but it was him and it was like um, Jason Manzoo, guess I thought it was great. I thought it was I thought it was pretty fun too. It's not like his best and it was entirely scripted, right, that was entirely scripted, and it was not shot like a like a mocumentary or like right right, right, Oh

my god. I just also, bor At bor At nude to me is not funny because it's like he's like, he's a good body, Sasha Baronne has like like a hot bod. Do you think I think a little bit. Yeah. I don't see him sexually, but I appreciate that many do. I count myself among the people who see him sexually fit. Maybe maybe it's just I can't because the only ever time you see him nude pretty much as in the boar At outfits. So maybe it's just the outfit not

being super flattering that's taking it away from me. I would love to see him fully nude, is what I'm saying. Take off the little thing, get naked only fans, Get only fans. I now subscribed to three only fans. Final thoughts on bore At two. I felt like it was

important for us to talk about this. Final thoughts on board at two our Sasha Baron Cohen Icon Maria Young actress to watch Yes to Me honestly shows like Margot Robbie level promise and potential, but with but with a more explicitly comedy angle, which is dangerous and we should be looking out for her. And she's Bulgarian, Bulgarian actress. Well she's a breaking worldwide Yes, yes, and I would

say a great piece of comedy, though a dad over long. Yeah, it was longer than the first, which I thought was in movies are too long, and that's actually a real culture number nineteen movies are too long. But you know, that's just it's a critique I have with everything amazing that he was able to get that Giuliani moment and like, have it released the week it did, and have it be a like a true Capital s story that dominated the news. Did you read the Caroline Giuliani Peace, I

did not read the Caroline Guliani piece. I heard it. I heard it was lovely and she, you know, is on the right side of things, rocks. But it's like God, like the Ron Paul thing and Bruno is so fucking wild and like that was nuts. That was not that was like he was like sexually assaulting. Wrong, that was exactly what that was. I'm really happy you brought it up, because I would hate to not mention that that is true.

Like that was nuts, but it was the last But I couldn't even stop RuPaul, so like the whole thing is too much. But the punchline ultimately did make me this fall on the ground. Oh, I couldn't even stop RuPaul. I love Bruno so much, and this is the thing readers like, thank you for meeting us where we're at right now, and we love you very much. And I think that we are not alone here. And everyone's kind of like Jesus Christ the election general general um panic

about the existence of us all going forward? What is happening? So we're there too anyway, So a big old general. I don't think, so honey to everything. But um, let's move into the segment and begin with I don't think so honey, I do have one. I have a have a premise. Okay, interesting, um, this is Matt's premise based I don't think, so honey. Okay, maybe it's not a premise. I'd have an idea for I don't think so honey. Okay, this is Matt, I don't think so, honey, And it's

time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Mitch McConnell being purple, um, he looks dead to me. I have been to open casket wakes, seeing people in caskets there that look more alive than Miss McConnell. What is going on? It literally looks like a curse is keeping him alive. There's something deeply going on there. And if we're gonna harp and we win in America on the Age of Biden and consistently dig into this thing of he's old, he's old, he's old, he's seen, he's seen. What exactly

is going on with your girl, Mitch? Then, because that looks haunted, That looks hunted, like the hunt, all the hunt, all the houses that aren't haunted because of quarantine. Right now are the haunts are all going to Mr McConnell and keeping him alive. Chances darn Barney, the Dinah store, Darn Barney, the Dinosaore is not as purple as this bitch. I don't think so, honey, that color and that's one minute.

Barney the dinosaur, Darn Barney, the dinahsas Barney, darn Barney the dinosaur parentheses Matt and bow and get too high again for real. This time Matt and Bowing are high and tired. No, we can't do Tired culture. Tired culture. You were that. You know what you talked about the traveling last week that I forgot to bring up you are king of I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I am tired culture. The moment I knew culture was for me, the culture that maybe say cultures

for me was being tired. Tired culture. That's a little culture number forty six, Bowen is tired culture. You know you actually are the most alive culture of the moment. So enjoy it, a bitch. So is it time? It's time for me? God? Okay, Bowen, do you have something that you're thinking of that you could do a premise? Um? I do? I do? Yeah? Okay, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Okay, here we go. This is boone. I don't think so Honey's time sharts now. I don't think so Honey, Bacon,

egg and cheese. You are ruining. I asked so much. I why am I eating you every single day? You're what's keeping me in this bad, bad bad dietary cycle. It's another look. I have a third addiction. Everybody ready to hear it? B ec. Okay, b ec is my third addiction, worse than a cigarettes because at least there's no fucking pork fat in it. Okay you you are you listening to me? There's no pork fact work fat and processed cheese product um, baconic and cheese. You're You're

the most delicious thing in the world. And I can't. I wish I knew how to quit you. In the words of Jake, where was it Heath, It was Jake. It was Jake. It was Jake. And I pray that one day you lose your status as in your constitution. I know that Bodiga is thrive on it, but it's really killing our children's and ur in Ore and me and you're bowen Yang's and that's one minute. It's killing

our children's and our bowen yangs. That's actually a lotal culture number four prety forty bacon, bacon, egg and cheese. It's killing children. And you know, for me, it's sausage and cheese. You're a sausage queen. And to quote Pat, that's just what works for me and my family. That's just what works works for me my family. I feel like bacon, if you're a bacon person, that's bottom culture.

If you're a sausage person, that's top culture. Yeah, to me, that makes a lot more sense, um, because bacon is sort of like stylized and cute and there's like a twist. And sausages just like me and I have them at Starbucks every day when I get my get this, don't get too hard. Pumpkin spice, cold brew, Um, pumpkin spice cream, cold brew and cream, sausage, chicken, cheese on. What I think is like I don't know, like a on a on, a on, a croissant, bun, croissant, I don't forget what

it is like it's like a English muffin. I guess the thing. Anyway, where are we at right now in the discourse with pumpkin spice. I feel like it's the backlash to the backlash or the backlash or the backlash or whatever is social media comment culture. No, no, no, no, no, I don't don't know, because I'm saying like the fact that it's generally the fact that we can't just enjoy

pumpkin spice. I know, but I'm saying, like a year after year it seems to like swing the other way where it's like, Okay, this year we like it, and I'm like and I'm like, well, guess what, I've always enjoyed it. Just fine. I'm not I'm not fanatic about it. I think every now and then I'll be like, oh, it's a crisp day in October, I'll have a pumpkin spice something. You know what. It's very good and that's why it's popular. And you can't not like the good

thing just because a lot of people like it. Like, what yet, depriving yourself? Come out of the shadows, darling. We're drinking pumpkin spice. Come join. We're all in the park drinking pumpkin spice. You can join, You're invited to join. Why wouldn't you? Why do you want to be amongst the shadows? Why do you want to be amongst the shadows? This is such a good performance. God, you're such a You're such a talented orator. You really are you feel this way? I of course I do, Matt. I feel

I'm what I feel u SELESSA Matt? You are so you really are a light. I think about you at work in my despair, and I smile. I go, oh, Matt, I couldn't believe yesterday when I was smiling up at the TV beaming at Bowe and Yang on Saturday Night Live. I sometimes just be watching live. I did watch live last night. Oh my god, So you were watching when I was on when I was literally watching while you were on stage, and I was like, this is live television. That's both cute, that's fun. Was it fun to sit

next to Adalla the sketch? It was so fun. She was so wonderful. I I just think she's the best, and I just I'm I. I feel so honored that I got to share it. I got to even share a frame with her, even even a good nights. I wanted so badly there to be a big surprise that she was going to do a song, but then I was like, she's clearly not ready. I think she's very she's very precious about her work, which is her right, and she has every right to be p Yeah, that's

what I'm saying. Like her work is so the bar is so high, can you imagine, Like that's it's so crazy, Like she's had literally could it's unprecedented success with her last two albums, Like you have to give her time to feel good and comfortable with what she's gonna output these any of these artists who are releasing music, it's like, remember like when She's She's she said that she had a whole different album recorded for twenty five but then Rick Rubin listened to it and was like me, probably

you could release this if you wanted to, but I don't think you'd be proud of it. And she was like, Okay, well, I'm gonna re record everything and write completely new songs. Like you have these like huge people like weighing in,

which is like both good and bad. I'm sure it's like so stressful, but to have If Rick Rubin was like, you should probably think about doing this again, I'd be like absolutely, but then it'd be like, I better make sure it meets a standard that Rick Rubin has said because he appreciates my work or whatever that, whatever their relationship is. I'm like, that's something that like is that we kind of take for granted in in terms of

how these artists navigate their their new work. It's like, oh, yeah, you have so many stakeholders in this, which is maybe not the best thing, but also at the same time,

it's like you have to think about that rubric constantly. Yeah, I don't know, and they're dealing with everything we're talking about two on the biggest level, Like, right, we've talked about how you know when Adele kind of released that photo of her after her weight loss, like the way everyone in the world has something to say about it, Like, that's not a normal situation for someone to be at

the center of. So she needs the emotional space to be able to create not only just creates what I meaning to say, but also exists in the public eye in that way. Again, you know what I mean Like that, it's it's it's you need a lot of time to prepare for something like that, I would imagine, right right right,

So you gotta let her fly. You gotta be oh my god, but literally her like singing her song and she sounds fucking album quality, I'm like, and she makes it look so easy and it just comes out of her effortlessly. Yes, I'm sure it takes effort, but she makes it look so well. She's a sucking star. And I mean like she she is like like an uncommon breed of star. She looks stunning, she sounds gorgeous. Actually, the one and only time I've seen Adel alive was

at SNL. Henry and I went and sat in the studio and saw her saying hello, and when we were young, we were crying. I mean, she's so beautiful and pure to watch perform live and it just feels like such a moment, and her songs are so good that, um, she's just she really is that star level. She's something else. Yeah, And even like her, like at the read through reading all these scripts, like some of them cold, I'm assuming like was so she's a great read, a great performer,

has great timing. It's like, oh my god, like you're you kind of are like the full packet. I don't know, I I just I think she's so. I was a fan of hers before, but like now I feel like she um just for to even have like the curiosity and like the um the attitude of like I mean is I've always wanted to kind of host, so why not do it? I'm like, that's great, Like I I

don't know, I think that's that's cool. And I thought she had a great show, a lot of great sketches um from our writers that were very suited to her anyway. And you got to shake your little bond Bob. I got to shake my little bomb bomb. Yes, that was fun, which actually reminds me of a song. Um, And usually how we end episodes is with a song. Do you

feel prepared to do that? You want to put any imparting with words of wisdom onto our very good readers, I think, UM, don't use any hashtags if you want to say something shitty about anybody exactly and let us know what you thought of Bore at two. Actually, maybe don't.

I'm I'm I've been doing too much reading. I should actually focus on books and not you know, d M because I see if I put something out there well, the fact that the fact that you can either choose to when you when you think of reading, it's like books and d ms. I actually have been reading too much lately, but it's been d M s. I'm gonna switched back to books. It's time that I'm it's it's time that I could be using to read a book. And I'm reading this great book right now. Oh my god,

I'm reading this book by Ted Chang. It's called excellation is short stories. He's the guy who wrote the short story that Arrival is based on, and so it's just wonderful, like really super like cerebral, like just in terms of like they make you think he's like sci fi stories. She is. He has one that's set in like an Arabian nights tail within a tail like set up, and it's about time travel and it blew my fucking mind

and loving it. You should read Trick Mirror. Um. So, anyway, my message to everybody, to the readers is to literally, hello, read, let's read more books. I already feel like a more, a better person who does not need to check my phone all the time because I want to finish this book I'm reading that I'm enjoying. I read more, you know what. I was just thinking to myself, what that, um, we should do a spooky episode for Halloween. But then I realized that that would be this episode. So I

guess spooky and we can do another spooky episode. I think it'll be too late, Oh, then that will release on event. I think this episode has been a little spooky. October. Wait, what was the song from hocus Pocus that could be the one that takes us out no better optop. I'll put a spin on you when you can get I don't know the words, but it's the worst. And now you're good. You can tell she was playing seven or like fifteen. It was that, but that was it. That

was it. She was so good in that role. But that character was written in a way that was like when she knows a little too much about sex for a seven year old. But anyway, rubber she wist in every age. Rule of Culture number nine five five