“Constant Comment” (w/ Nathan Lee Graham)

I don't know if she would feel, you know, like I would like if I said her age that would offend her. I don't know. Maybe she's one of you know, she can't speak for her. I can't speak for her. I would never even try. Okay. What's the second reason? Well, that we're going to be on Orlando in just five days, and just five days where we are going on vacation, were going on vacation. It will be very fun. Watch look out for be on the lookout for a new

installment of our horror anthology series. Yes, a daily horror anthology series that we produce on the spot called four Nights in Orlando. I literally edit the videos while I'm in line for Space Mountain, and you know, post them while while I'm on Space Mountain. And while I appreciate you doing that because it is the majority of the work, I also feel salty when you have your facing your phone. Bitch. I want to I want to be connected to me.

I understand that you're in post, bitch, but I need to be connecting with you about the decor, because you know that's the number one gag about Disney World is the decor and the amount of effort that they put into the I can appreciate the CUE experience. Just fine, Well, we'll see. I'll report back next week and I'll just really quickly thanks to everyone for all the nice things you guys have been saying about our Vulture recaps for drag Racing, for Top Monol. We'll keep them coming for

the next, you know, fifty thou weeks. Hopefully the seasons will continue for fifty thousand weeks. So there you go, and continue on. Now. I'm noticing our guests doing something right now which is gagging me very hard. Our guests came prepared, truly prepared, and with the ensemble to gag as well. Oh, the ensemble is gaginager, yes, because understands that podcast our visual medium. We say it all the time. Yes, okay, so let's please introduce our guests. Who is our guest?

I'd like you to tell them because it's sort of an icon to me. And when I found out that we were going to have our guests on the show, I did have a moment. Our guest, I had a moment because I leapt out of my seat as soon as HPJ sent us the ask. And um, you know, there's just a litany of credits to go through, so many we'll just we'll just cherry pick a few. So, um, I love cherry picking. What does cherry picking mean? Do you? Well? First of all, we need to get back to your

A segment. You're a block A block discussed the We've done a couple of things that I love. You said the word bitch, which is my go to work to myself every morning. Alright, bitch, let's get up, let's go, let's go, let's go. And then is your mother Katrina? My mother's name is Katrina. Okay, here's the thing about your age. You can google it there, so that's out. And then also Space Mountain. I was around when Space

Mountain was built in the seventies. Yes, because I'm that old bitch and wait, what was the what was how did it field? But look at you know I'm not no, not at all. Now let me tell you something. I want to revisit this first, Let's introduce our guests, because I want everyone to understand, and I'm gonna go back. We're going to to the beginning of the B block. Here you can currently see our guest star in the Fantastic new show by Will Ferrell, Adam McKay Steve levittan

legend Tuesday nights at nine. It's called Vegas Fantastic Jokes Packed with joke and that's a requirement absolutely Fox or Hulu or Fox. Now there you go. I actually watched the episodes on Hulu. Thank you for Hulu. I should pronounce it in its correct way, Hulu the one and pronounce its pronounced it. Yes, of course she of the acting duty teach, acting teacher at cap twenty one, so we have to take her word for it. And Julie Andrews with a liquid liquid that's what that's what liquid

you perfect? So Eli, Vegas, please watch. It's so so funny on it and so so funny and this is just truly and we'll talk about this a formative role. I'm shook Todd and Zoolander and Zander too. Of course, the amazing phrase my mistake, my mistake, you're a mistake indeed, but just the lip quivering, oh perfect. You can't beat that. You can come up with the pronunciation of jacquomin by the way, that's that's the T. That's the T, and that's and we're having tea and were actualizing what kind

of tea are you having? By the way, green green, pomegranate. Constant comment, Oh, constant comment. That's the title of this episode. That is already we know, come on, this is on, and you know what, just just starve the screen. You've seen him in the comeback. Um. Oh my legendary scrub is honey, okay, scrub Okay, it's actually rule number sixty four of culture. Come through scrubs and Sweethelm Alabama, Oh my god, with with ms rees and and starve the stage.

In the original Broadway cast of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, Yes, he knows the Queen. He knows the Queen. I do all of them, all of them, each and everyone, each and everyone, And there's just so much more there's literally so much more and one of the few Americans to do absolutely fabulous and a fab are they like Harry Potter where they require British cast Well, it's a British institution. You have to achieve a certain level of high society.

And also I just want to say something. Yes, I hope to get to the point where in day where I can step forward and say end this credit because I love you know the credits that are important to you. You know what I knew I had arrived when my agents said to me, Nathan, there's a breakdown, and it says we want a Nathan Lea Graham type. Stop the presses, stop the presses. The presses are stopped in their shops. I have a follow up to that, but just please

welcome our guest, Nathan Lea. It's not even a Nathan type. We have the real thing at this moment. Yes, okay, the follow Miss Dumbo, Miss Dumbo. We are recording in Dumbo, Miss Dumbo. I need to ask what was the breakdown for what was this role? I didn't even hear anything after that. Oh my god, yeah, you just blocked out. Did you inquire about booking it yourself? Because there is a there is a want something. I want someone out there to you know, I want to pay it forward.

I also want to judge that performance, absolutely, and how how close did they get to the real right, you know, eyebrows and cheeks? No, no, no, no, it's more than that, though. There's the cheek ones for days. Come on, well, thank you, work on yet, But I'm not. I'm not above it. No, no, none of us is. I'm not above it. So you know who I'm talking about. Unfortunate, I don't. I don't think got worked on. Are you crazy? I think it was just the makeup. Honestly, I think you are a

damn fool. She's pulled back. She had an overdrawn lip. Now you can pull back without actually having any work done. Paul does it and it looks thirty years younger. So you know, this is what Marlena did for years. Marlena did it. Yes, absolutely, she looks different, is all all right? All right? But none of us is above work, that's true. I'm just thinking she's just a little young to get

that amount of work. Look, you have a little bit done over the years, so you look like yourself always, absolutely, and that's how you get the cast of Real Housewives of insert city here exactly. Also, if you look like you've had work done, it didn't work. That didn't work. Honestly, that's a rule of culture. That culture number four, if you look like you done didn't work. Absolutely. Now here's

a question I had right off the bat. Yes, please, did your character in Zoolander and Moved got to have a romantic so sexual relationship? I need to know. Listen, if we do three and four right, I can't tell you. Okay, fine, but I will say just in terms of Cannon move Out to and Alexandria A. Todds Christian Wiggs characters or two were romantically linked. I don't know if that was true. I don't know. I know that Todd enjoyed watching them.

That's perfect. Is that was that here like direction onset, that was like your your action, the backstory. That's what I decided to do. You made a choice. I did, And I started tonguing the the dog I love, the original dog. Her name was Kiva. She passed, she did, but you know they thought we had drugged her up or somebody said no, this bitch is just old. Yeah, And I wasn't calling her about of her name because

she was a actual bitch. Yea. But even if we were calling that dog a bit, I'm sure it would be a positive. Absolutely, it's such a positive thing. Yeah, she booked that role. She showed up to said even though she was old. She she came for you every time, Betty White in her ass all the way to that sad. And I don't know why people gag when people come for you every time. No, because we're still coming for you, right,

they certainly are. Now here's here's here's what I was gagged for when we were doing the A block, as our guest called. So, I think that what probably happened was you were briefed about what do we do it a segment called I don't think so, honey, right, and you came with a list grievances and you added something.

You came with seven topics. This is too good, This historic because let me tell you something, these two rarely come with one, and then we remember we have to do our own segment and have to make one up. But I do have two options tonight. I'm happy to say I came with one prepared, which is usually one more than night. Okay, So I noticed that you wrote that's that's beautiful. Thank you. Yes, I noticed that you wrote something down during our discussion, and I would like

to know what that is. Um, well, I just wrote something down to refer to something like I understand. All right, So he's gonna have something. He has something to say, you know, like Dan Rather does on Rachel Meadow. Dan is always on Rachel. Well, you know, he's an icon. He's an iconomy you and Dan Rather. He kind of comes. He kind of says sassy things about Trump. He's very sassy. Nick, can do you have any opinions on how often Rachel

brings on presidential historian Michael Baschloss. You know what, you can look at his hair and tell how many times he's been on, because it's it's changed. Michael's Yes, Michael's has changed over the period of time. He was like, well, listen, if I want to be on this bitches show all the time, yeah, I need to, I need up. This is this is every single conversation that Rachel has with Michael Beasch last. Wow, let's bring on presidential historian Michael

Beasch Last. Michael, has Donald Trump ever done? Has any president ever done? This? Uh? Sorry, Rachel goes Michael, is there any precedent for what Donald Trump Trump has clearly done that has clearly unprecedented? Michael beach Last says no. Rachel says, watch the space and it and sits commercial break this space. That's what happens every time, and it does happen every time, and he's always, you know, flow mixed and surprised. Yes, she's becoming a beautiful characature of herself.

I think. Explain that beautiful in that like she gives it to you every ball a k A she gives. She gives you literally the same demeanor, the same take pretty much every time. But it's always right, it's always good. She's spot on. I adore her. She's number one, She's number one. She is the female Walter knk Ride. Yes, there, there you go. That's a rule of culture, number one hundred. Rae is the female Walter Cronkite. Listen and learn, children,

listen and learn. I have to be tuning into Rachel Matto a little bit more because, let me tell you, my number one political source of news right now is the view Well, and you've got to be careful with that, you truly do, because they're rarely accurate. Yeah, the blue cards are not always on not No, they're really accurate. Also, I think Megan McCain has a cold this week, and it's really adding a whole new dimension to the annoying there to the timbre of her tone. Yeah, which is

already sort of like it's it's already you know. Yes, not to talk negatively about a woman's voice. Oh no, god, no, no, no, that's the same. But that's what we do. That's what we do. That's what we do. You wasn't a loving way, and like you know, even the list that will get to in a moment. It's not that I'm a negative person. It's just that I do what i'm told. You have things, you know, I have things to say, and uh yeah, yeah no. But the thing is I try to like

Megan McCain. I try very hard. I try very hard to You try five days a week. I try five days a week from eleven to twelve. There you go. And that's much more than we do with people we know. I wasn't that interesting. I would actually go as for us to say I know more about what she thinks

than even my closest friends. Yes, it's because I assume I already know, but do you know you want you want to love her, you want to get to know people, you want to share you other people's opinions, because even gets to one of my things, um which I'll just throw out there, it out there. It's both sides. I can't. I can't. I can't take it. It's not both sides. I'm sick of hearing that phrase. It drives me bananas. And that's all. I don't have to go on further

with that, but it just drives me bananas. Although there is this there's this crazy study that was just released where they tracked they basically tracked back the sources of tweets that were being retweeted by both Black Lives Matter activists and Blue Lives activists, and they all went back to the same Russian hacking so and in equal proportions.

So what the conclusion was was that there's basically two Russian troll hacker sitting next to each other somewhere in like Siberia, um just and one of them is tweeting something on the on the right, on the on the extreme right side, and one of them is tweeting something and the others tweeting something on the extreme left side just too so chaos. Yeah, because they want in the they want to stir things up so that each side sees each other as a caricature. They'd like us to

have a civil war. I believe, you know, a house divided, there you go there, a house divided. There you go that as the saying goes, as the saying goes, a house divided there, ago, that's actually rule number fourteen of culture. A house divided, there you go. You know what, We're going a little we're a little trigger happy, very similar to my expression, which is if the shoe fits, Okay, listen, we are getting a little trigger happy with it. But this is the thing. People need to keep up, Yes

they do. And this is a lightning round. You need to keep up. This is a special, special podcast trained for this. It's not a lightning round, it's an enlightening round. You that is brilliant. And let me tell you something comments and you're one of the most brilliant people I know, my friend, my friend, and that was amongst the most brilliant thing you ever said. It's not a lightening round, it's an enlightening And I stand on the shoulders of giants and they're sitting right next to me on this

at this table. Very much the last thing to go on a woman her shoulders, The last thing we need to talk about Nathan's ensemble. Okay, yes, because you came in with the necklace of the year. It's from Hawaii. Yes, they're like shells. What is it? Describe it? They're black, They're black shells, big black shells. They're but they're formed into these little sort of balls and um, you know, yes, yes, And and they're around my neck, black balls around my neck,

black balls around my neck. But let's just talk about because the color story is if a monochrome, how would you describe I'm wearing all in black and white? So it's all black and white, and technically black and white are not colors, their basics shades. And you know, I can be a very basic bitch as well. All I think we all can. I think we all have that we are going to Orlando. Well, there you have it. You have it? Now are you? Are you shady about Orlando?

I am not shady about Orlando. Um, because people have televisions there that they do absolutely you know what, beautiful answer. If you live in Orlando, you better too into Fox Tuesday nights at nine and watch Eli to Vegas. I like this fucking show. I was watching it and I was like, Okay, jokes, okay, jokes, and you've got great actors. Okay. Can I tell you I'm gagged for the lead actress of the show, because yes, she's very kind. By the way, can I tell you, yes, Kim Matula is that he

pronounced it? She the way she delivers jokes. You say, that's a nice person. I can't. I can't describe how I feel that way. It's an essence, it's a tone. And she is so wonderfully smart and politically minded and just a great, great woman. I'm obsessed. Do you know where I know her and where you may know her? She looks familiar. She looks familiar. That's because did you watch the second season of Unreal? I did not. She plays watch I did when I found out that she

was in it. Okay, good, okay. So um. In the second season of Unreal, she plays like they get a black suitor and they're like, well, it's the first year we're gonna have black suitor. So he was a former NFL player, and they put her on the show and her dad owns an NFL team and they want them to get together, but she ends up sucking the executive producer, who's gross. There you go, and that's a lot of happens there. And she, you know, she's fantastic in every

possible way. She's a delight to work with. She's a wonderful person and I can't say enough about her. She's as also my man is on there. And this is another one. We were talking about my my top five before before Bowen got it, and you were mentioning that. We were talking about Jonathan Groff as I am want to do, and you said, is he a mainstay on the list? I said yes, And then I was thinking about people on my list further than that, Mr Dylan McDermott,

what are you gonna do? He's suave and cool, cool, handsome, handsome, and it's talented as all get out. Of course, we are actually having, which is one of my I don't love this word when people ask me, are you having? Yeah. First of all, it's not fun, it's work. But it's enjoyable is a better word. It's enjoyable, Yes, enjoyable to do it's such a joy to do. Fun is for like, you know, Space Mountain. Yeah, that's exactly what you do

when you go to space work days. It's not fun, it's not enjoyable, especially when you get off the neck is all out of wagon is But Dylan is a dream everyone. That's great. It's so fun to work with. He's great. And I saw that there was an episode which also featured Dermott mulroney. Yes, another dream, but another true will be returning Dylan McDermott and Dermott mulroney and the same show. And that's a risk. Do you d who is our third pilot on that? Um? Josh do Josh?

That's another dream. This is a show full of yes. You know. I was sort of like, okay, well, okay, thank you, thank you. Have to have a fan the vapors, you have the vapors, honey, I mean rub talk about okay talk And she's also stunning to Kim, Yes, everyone on the show is just gorgeous. You're just like, oh please, no, thank you. I appreciate there you go take it. So talk about this role because I mean it's just it's Bernard. He's last name. Have we heard the last name on

the show yet? We haven't. Okay, So this is a breaking, yes, breaking breaking. Everyone's been saying on the blocks, what is Bernard's last names? We can we can confirm it is Jasser, Jasser, bitch now talk. I think Bernard is so much more than the and I hate to use this phrase, the quintessential game attendant. He's someone with agency. He's someone with I have to agree with you, and he will continue

to show you that agency as the shows unfold. Yeah, as the episodes come out, they've been so kind to Bernard, and uh, we're having a great time and just you White, Henry Higgins. Why see? And usually a show on a plane would make me anxious because I am, of course famously an anxious flyer. But I put field rights listening and watching and we get off the plane too, So we're gonna get off the plane. And I mean, of course, it's the nucleus of the show, it's the central character

of the show. But we get off that plane and you get to see other people's in bonds. Yeah, it's like the New York City and Sex in the City. The plane is like another character exactly the planets. Fifth Lady, Yes, jack Pot hunting, jack Pot, jack Pot airlines. Have you did you ever did you have to like this? Is? This feels like a very you know, weird question. Do you have to talk to a lot of male fight

attendants all or just fight attendants? We have someone there on the set and a matter that I did an interview this morning and I mentioned what I did on Yes Chat Chat a TV and and they asked me this lightning round sort of game show questions about phrases for flight attend I was like, bitch, I just played one on TV. So that was very interesting. Um, and I got most of the questions wrong. But that's fine, that's fine, it's fine. I got the job, that's true.

But what's interesting is that we do have someone there, and it's very interesting to see them come in and say, we don't do that. You're stretching this. That's funny if you tie it in with that. So see, I have a question about that person though. If they're so good at flight attending, why aren't they up there doing it right? Retired? Okay, well that's a quick answer to the question I have. So now I feel more comfortable. Now I feel more

comfortable with the whole thing. Yeah, you know, flight attendants love them. I love them. I will say the male ones. I may or may not have had a little tift tristret Wait just Tristan people. No, no, it's not see that's that's what I was already about that. So maybe I'm a trist is merely when you hook up with the flight attendant. But I just tooked up with the flight at time. You did. Wait this right after college. This was a while ago. But he was real interesting.

He had like his name. First of all, his his name was not Bernard. Now his name is not Bernard. His name was was spelled with an sky skylar, and so he took that to the fucking Instagram bank. And at the time, this was two thou twelve, already had like followers. He was like Skyler in the sky. She was like an Instagram famous flight attendant freaking the sheet anyway,

but he mile high. Indeed he had. He showed me like they get these like print outs every day of like their their their routes, and yes we have those as well, right, and it's it just it just seems like an untenable lifestyle. And so hats off to people listen to that, you know, they I always equate them

to actors because they have to feel out the audience. Yes, they have to know what people are feeling, what they're going through, um, sort of attend to them because you're stuck together like in the theater um for those moments, and it's like we got to deal with each other. And also every passenger is judging the flight attendant. I do it to So I just just realized I do this. But I was literally on a flight a couple of weeks ago and I was like, Okay, what's the flight attendant?

Are they friendly? Are they cute? What are they doing through the hardy quick? And you do? You judge them? And they do thevery passenger you know, that's probably fun for them. Oh, I'm sure it is. I mean it keeps them going. Yeah, Oh my god. I've never really thought of it going, especially with our extras. We have extras, you know who I on Jackpot? Is that as similar? Is that a similar relationship there is that? Are you treating them with the same sort of arms length? In general? Yes?

And I don't mean for you to like make no, no, no, but in general yes, because you want to have sort of a professional sort of thing going. But then as as far as Nathan two, fellow actor. I assume that some of them are actual actors who are a part of the extra. Of course, I'm very kind of them because you want that sort of camaraderie and all that sort of thing happening. But in general I don't want them near me, right of course, No, get them away.

And also they can need after me exactly, they can need after me after I'm done, after you're done. I was on a set and this this this background person was looking for like there were there weren't outlets where we were filming, and so she was looking for this outlet and then I was looking for an outlet too, but then she had like taken this outlet before I did, and so I was just like, you know what, that's fine. And so I went to the p and I was like,

is there an extra outlet for my phone? She goes, you know what, we're gonna kick We're gonna kick that. We're kicked that Rosmary off of hers and I was like no, no, I was like, don't don't do that. It's crazy. She's like, you get priority, We're gonna kick her off. I was like, non, absolutely not, because then there does reflect on you it's like well bow and yang and knocked to my phone out of its sport and I was like, no, no, no, please, don't do that.

So anyway, you know what, But what happened and what was the inevitable thing that happened? I went and found my own outlet was always well, always well listen, you paid, paid it forward. And now I have not really seen that many pieces of art that focus on the life of a flight attendant, but I know we're one of the few. I guess. The last one was that Gwyneth peltrom over you from the top. It was was it

a film? It was a film. There's never been a well, there has been a television show, but it was before you both were born. And it was called Flying High and it started Connie Selca, So you have to sort of look that up. I'm giving Selca. I'm giving you some deep dive there. Please. Also, they had a m show. It was a comedy. She was indeed, and she was wonderful in it. She's a wonderful period. So yes, un good ones as well. I started interrupting, No, please, let's

interrupt all the time. Um. Also, I think I may be making some history here. I might be the first out flight attendant on network television. That is stunning, series regular when you take into account that the majority of those flight attendants probably have to be gay. Right, But also I don't want to assume, well, I mean even just outside of that, I mean, that's huge, That's that's huge. Trailblazer, trailblazer.

I mean, I'm sure, like, I'm sure you made some sort of history with like even Zoolander, who knows, you know, like even like you know what Nathan's been done making history. That's what That's what I meant to say. How was it? What was it like to work with Mila Djoviovic. First of all, she is a delight that she really is

the best. When we got back when we did to fifteen years later, she said fuck in Rome on the set because I hadn't seen her until she did her stuff, and she was like, why do you look the same? Why do you look the same? Ben Stiller. Also, the first day of my shooting stopped all the production. It was like, Nathan Lee Graham is here today on the set, why then does he look the same? All right, let's get back to it, because because you know what, Ben Stiller, I love him has aged a little bit in the

fifteen years since. Still handsome, very very handsome, and such a delight to work with. Really, you know, that's a sex symbol that no one really shouts out hot always done, especially like especially in Zoolner when you saw his body, well I think that was a fake body. Well, you know what, Tropics underfine, but by the time you got to Tropics Under, it was like whoa. There was like a scene where they're like doing like like a fake montage like the or whatever, and they cut to his

body and it was absolutely ripped. And of course, of course that at the time was like whoa, I have a boner for Penn Stiller, but that could not possibly have been his body. Yeah, it was might even a comedic Owen Wilson's that was his real body, though, um I do okay, let's address this thing that Nathan's just brought up, because do you have what is your what is the regimen? What is what is keeping this intact? Because the children should know unless you don't want to

give it away, which is which is fine. You can't give away all your secrets. Now, you can give away the recipe and leave one thing out there you go there, you go, and they have to figure it out on the that's a rule of culture number one. You can give away the recipe but leave one thing out. So here's the thing. I don't do anything special. Okay, it's uh, the majority of its genes. And I don't mean, you know, like gilt Gloria Vanderbilt jeans, she makes jeans. She used to.

She gave some good genes to her son though m George Ash Gloria Vanderbilt George Ash looks anyway, you know, I'll pull out the old references, thank you. So, So here's the thing. I just take care of myself. I do eat properly. Um, I work out three to four times a week. I have uh you know, I just I take care of my skin, you know, especially when you have to wear makeup on the set. I you know, I clean my face and everything with strict regiment morning and night. So, um, I do take care of myself.

Well you have to, yeah, but part of its geans too. I mean, like if you got sucked up jeans. Sorry to quote Mila, fuck, why why why did fuck? That's so funny. I love imagining the fury that was. That was like in there because you know she can serve some fury. Yeah, and she's so amazing. She's an amazing mother and an amazing Musician's amazing that you forget it, Like, wait, was miss Christine and Julander two? Yes? She was? Okay, m I love miss Christine love Miss Christine. Yes, lovely,

lovely lovely. You know, I get along with all of the people I've worked with because I'm the person that's not directly in conflict with anyone I'm cast is you know that person that is just not you know, yeah, which which really does just like behooved you just to like be that sort of because when you go on as I'm sure you do, you're then not stirring it up. Whenever I'm cast as the major villain in a in a in a picture, I'm always stirring it up. Listen,

I don't have to star on anything. I just have to steal it the God. Now that's gotta be. That's gonna be a classic Nathan line. Now let's let's get into let's get into the let's get into the upbringing. Sure, now we're going to ask the question that we do ask every guest, and that is what is the culture that steered you in a cultural direction. It was when you said if you were Pocahonas, and there was the course that was culture, and there was another course that

was just a certain other kind of culture. This is the course you you chose. There's a convoluted way to ask the question. Movies, music, television shows, book, hometown, hometown what? Okay, this is gonna sound a little long winded, but my mom said to me because I was her first child and she was a young mother, married but young important. I mean, you know, baskets around here, some of these single mothers out here roaming free? Right? Um? No, uh no,

Hamilton's around here. How does the bastard, etcetera? Thank you, thank you? The question didn't get answered in the musical. Thank you. You're going to start the musical with a question. Fucking answer it. Answer the question. That's a real culture. Number fourteen. You're gonna start the question musical with a question, and exactly, but you can't handle the truth. But yes, so so she would sing to me because she didn't get into the baby sort of talk or whatever when

I was in her womb. So I sort of feel as though I was predisposed to be something sort of artistic. Then she said I was born and there was lots of lightning. I was born at one oh one a m On Monday, and she said that my feet came out feed first, feet first usually good. And then they were like, oh dear, what's happening, Push him back in, turn him around, and then use these things called for SIPs, which they don't guess, which they don't use anymore because

because I was born in the Middle Ages. Um, oh my God, to pull my big gass head out. My mother says, my head now is the same size as it was when it came out. I was like, you know what, really now you got jokes? But anyway, I digress um. And then you know, they would PLoP me down in front of black and white films. So you know, this is before Turner classics and all of that sort of thing. And I used to conflate Broadway with movie musicals. I was sure. And then of course, uh, immediately I

started working when I was six. Yeah, so you know, um, where was where was home? Where? Where where did you well? I was born in St. Louis, but then sort of raised in Los Angeles and then back and forth, right and so bad News Bears Go to Japan was like my first film, and then um, you know, it's a glorified extra and I had done Sanford and Son and all of these sort of things, you know stuff. Yeah. So, and then my first show was The Whiz, the first

national tour. I was a munchkin in Los Angeles because they would hire the kids locally, right, So, um, that's how it all sort of started. I started so early that I don't really know if anything different, and I've never done anything else, yes, yes, but that's how you know that it's what you're meant to do in a Yeah, I mean some people can become disillusioned along the way, right. You certainly have lean times and you know, abundant times. But I've just been very fortunate knock on wood to

have always worked. And this isn't what will be just knocked let everyone know at home called m D something Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's would, but it's like chips of woods right away, Well, there's would. Just I'm going to top on the wood now the perfect you guys heard that. There you go, So you're superstitious, exactly, thank you? You know, dose of salt um so that's really how sort of it it happened. And I was always inspired by by big, huge movie stars Betty Davis,

Joan Crawford. The whole thing is anything sort of typically known as gay now, which just simultaneously means good, Yes, truly you know? Actually does you know? Just it's the same thing as good that. So did you watch Feud? Of course, yeah, you were a fan, absolutely, and I knew all of that stuff before watching it. But I enjoyed watching the depiction, the depiction in the layout and how how the gals did. They did quite well, I thought.

I think it's a shame that it comes out the same year as Big Little Lies, and everyone made like a competition between them, because naturally that is what happens at the end of the year when there is an awards, they do make it a competition to women again. But I couldn't believe that Jessica Lang would give the performance that she gives him that last episode and go unrewarded like Nicole's amazing and right, I think deserves everything. But wonderful that last episode of Feud so good that was

in the living room. So the whole conversation between all of them when when amazing. When Judy Davis goes legends all a mis had I loved. I loved all of that. So yeah, that's sort of how I got into it. And you know, not to be a cliche walking around, but it really is one of those things where I was just enamored with people who were really good at what they did, yes, and very early on, and then you know, subsequently got to work with some people that

I idolized, you know, like Eartha Kid. Eartha, we were just talking about her performance as Issma other day, which she did pretty much up to her dying day. Wonderfully. She's no, it's a legend for all time, but it's just earth it like they're just there's just footage of her, like being interviewed. There's just like little snippets of her just like just in different settings, but just like saying these like just delicious things, iconic drops. Yes, Yes, that's

that's the perfect description. Iconic drops. Like like just her about her not needing a man or and compromising and compromising yes, yes, yes, and she just like just has and she like laughs away questions. She'll be like she'd be like what like like just ridiculing the person who was asking her. Well, yeah, it's like how dare you exactly,

It's like, why would you ask me that? But what a perfect way to be, like, you know what, you just asked me and we had a delightful time doing the Wild Party about you said you worked with her, Yeah, yeah, that was I mean, I mean, you talk about a wonderful Broadway cast. And I don't want to leave anyone out, but I'll start naming, you know, names, dear friends like Michael McElroy and Norm Lewis and Tania Penkins and Tony Collette and Mandy Patinkin and Leah Hawckey, Sally Murphy, Jane Summer,

Hayes uh oh gosh, gosh, gosh. I'm leaving people out, and I hate that Brooks anymore, bur Um. Just a whole list of wonderful people, Miss Tony Collette, Mr. Mandy Patinkin, Yeah true, I mean, and Earth of course, of course, but you know Stewart's age, Adam Grouper. There's all coming to me there you go. I can't believe Tony Colett sometimes I think she should be one of those I'll just keep throwing please just as they come for the

rest of the episode. I'll just talk about Tony Collette please, and you can chime in with more names with names, No, I mean, she's mean, what do you say? What do you say? Well, it's like we had John early on the show, and he beloved Toni Collette and he always does a wonderful impression of I wanted to make my mother proud, my mother proud. The sixth sense, Um, Nathan,

is there um opportunity, enthusiasm, interest. I mean, this feels like such an obvious question to return to the theater at some please, I never want to leave it, but

you're in l A now. Well I am, but you know you have time off and you always prepare to do things that you can't really if you are a serious person, um, a serious artist, you can't really ever leave anything, especially if we're when I come back to it, I just saw o'dolly and you and uh and Bernadette's back in you know, on Broadway, and Victor Garber is

there as well. These are people who do tons of television as well, so you know, but they're back on stage and you can't if you really want to, you know, I hope to be ubiquitous in that kind of way. Where you just keep keep it, keep it going. I think you're already there. I think I think it's just about scaling that up. I have a question. So you said you've been doing it since you were very, very young,

and it's always been a part of your life. Was there ever a moment where you were like, you know what, let me set this to the side for a second and just see if I have another pass or anything or not at all, not at all. And I thought about it, but I never did it, and then it got to be too late. Well at that where I became such a weirdo. Um, you know, such a specialized person that my lens of seeing anything was always through that sort of artist lens. And uh so really I'm

not suited to anything to do any thing else. I feel that way as well. Yeah, if anyone asked me to ever do anything besides sit here and talk, I would vomit. Yeah. I mean, you know, I love to talk on occasion, but I mean that's also performative, right, And I had to have something to talk about. So what the means I have to keep working? Yeah, you got to get those projects to be able to talk to do it. You gotta just do it, you know. I hope this is the same for the both of you,

But I would. I would talk to anyone in this room, even if we didn't have jobs, even if we weren't working, I would talk to any of you in the room. I think I'll talk to you absolutely, Thank you, Thank you. HPJ just fanned himself and put it only his fingers on his chest, which where that's where, Which means he's been hanging out of us too much, that he gave himself too fans and then placed his hand on his chest like he was Bibi Sahara Bene in that one

music video. She was the first winner, Yes, the first winner. Do you watch True Balls Drag Race? Yes, it's hey if you don't, no, no, no, I do, but I do for the papers. I always say for the papers. No, of course, I've had a friend on every episode, you know, at least one person. You mean, like in terms of the guest judges are like the queens both So um, I hope to be a guest judge on that show. So yeah, I think you're fabulous and I adore them all.

And I think what ru is doing is so important, you know, just bringing bringing it to the children and bring it to all the children. I am. I would be remiss. My publicist would not be pleased if I did not mention Dan n LG NYC Le Jazz Classic. That's the new jazz album that I'm working on this year and it will be completed hopefully by the end. We're going to talk about this album. But we love that. Is this true that you are technically a Grammy winning artists?

I am? Do you have no because when you're part of nine soloists, even though I did ten numbers have to pay for it. You have to pay for it, so I um, and I technically have to. We won seven for Best Classical Album two thousand five, So um, it's still you know, it's there for me there. I

just haven't bothered to do it. Sure, But about that too, that you have to pay for the actual statute, which was such because it goes to the composer William Bocum for the this is the songs of instance and of experience, Um, William Blake we put to music, and uh it's very heavy and wonderful, like this three hour cantata oratorio sort of thing. My god, and I was just privileged enough

to be a part of it with you. I mean, but you're I mean, you're you're, you're, You've got the G and he got ye is the only one you have thus far. I gotta get I got the G. I gotta get. The T is going to happen, Alec Mathis says, and the Emmy goes to I said, listen, bitch, if that happens, you're going to go to the ceremony with me. Why did I say that? Because other people were like, wait a minute, you better have a plus two then. But it was so kind of him. I

adore a like math But he's so talented. He's the hero of mine. You know, I've loved him four thousand years. Oh my god, he's just the best. He is the best, and he's so generous and so supportive and lovely and just super talented. You wouldn't you wouldn't think anything least. I mean, he is like Kim and that he you see them killing the jokes and you're like, that's a nice person too. But with Alec it's like, I mean, and you know this visibility blah blah blah, but it's

like you know, you weren't seeing any still aren't. You weren't seeing like a queer Asian person. You weren't, and you still don't see enough of them, and so well, listen, you don't see enough of anybody. I believe. Now let's get a little political. Believe that, um, you know, there should be some sort of gay representative in everything, because there is. Yes, I mean, I was just lost here on Pearl Street by myself, the gay lost on Pearl Street,

and there's one, and you represented them so well. Set you understand, how does that presents a queer narrative? Pearl Street presents a queer expertise, the orientational uh disarray. There's one Uh, oh my god, this is a uh proximity to water. There you go, there's number two, number three cobble stones. Absolutely, thank you. So I just think that we should be everywhere in every story. It's not like,

oh he's gay. No, it's like, no, this is another person, This is another narrative, This is another fabric of the human existence. Yes, there was one show that I couldn't believe didn't have a gay character because it was such a gay show. Now I'm now I don't know it, but I like even like I don't know there's some there's some shows out there where I'm like, where is the gay here? Like I just and you don't see it.

That could literally be any show. Well, I started doing those roles and wanting to have those roles before in even some of my wonderful gay colleagues did. And it wasn't about just you know, banging people over the head. It was like, no, Um, these roles are being written and straight people are taking them in winning awards, So why don't you want to do them? Why do you feel like you have to be validated by only doing

straight roles straight? None of my straight actor friends go around and say, oh, I'm so sick of playing straight roles. There you go. Can I tell you what grinds my fucking gears off is when people are saying that Timothy Shalomy's character Eliot and Call Me by your Name is bisexual. No, bitch,

that is gay, man. I think it's it's based on the book that he is he bisexual in the book he has in the book because in the ending, which is not included in the which is not depicted in the movie, Um, you know both of them have future relationships with men and women. So on some technical level. Okay, in that movie, he has a straight experience and is gay. Can tell me Elio like the pizza, Elio's pizza, which

no one's talking about, which is so great. The no one's talking about the fact that Elliot was named after the pizza Italian. Listen, it's square. No, it's not square, it's it's rect. You can come into a square, crispy bottom, beautiful. We're gonna go right past that, really really good. I was going to go in now you know what, we're gonna go past. I just got it. I just got it. Unfortunately, it took me along. I was on a lagged on that show to call it back to Elliot. But listen,

he's not buying that movie. He has a straight experience, like we all do. We all suffer through that and then we get together. I haven't. I haven't really gold gold gold. We're not platinum in terms of in terms of sex, platinums are hard. Platinum are c sections these actions in touched to vagina. In terms of vagina, I've never touched. I've never seen one, even with my own eyes. I have a joke about this, but I can't say it on the air. Oh well, and then you know,

and we'll let these boys leave the room. And yeah, I want to touch on something, um because you you you just talked about you know, just you know, having that representation or just having gay actors play gay roles. But I do want to talk about and ask you about your experience with being an actor, a gay actor, um, at a time when diversity wasn't this buzzword where it wasn't like this thing of like, oh this is actually desirable, where it was actually so institutionally challenging for you to

actually get book these roles and play these things. Like I mean, how do you square that? Now? Like is that?

I mean it's obviously positive, but like was it? It was difficult because I would go in for gay roles and they would say I wasn't gay enough because they didn't know any gay people like me sort of didn't you know, have come in with a pink boa and an immediate limp wrist and you know, over the top and sort of Paul Lynn, which I had no problem with either, but I was like, no, we're just really sort of regular normal people. I said. I can be elegant at times, but you know, um, it was hard

for me to get a role. And the first gay role that I received was The Wild Party and two thousand wow. And then how long had you been auditioning for screen stuff? Um? I never really wanted to do to film or TV, so it had happened, but it just happened. And then of course even on stage though it was, it was never sort of an overtly gay roll nothing, And I had been working, so you know, it was sort of maybe flamboyant or over the top

or charismatic. It's so funny when they put a word in there that they doesn't when they think isn't like one thing, go in for a lot of assistance and I get officious a lot, yes, like officious, Um, well dressed, we said on the show, like fastidiousious. We're seeing a lot you know, dapper, you know, fopish. Yeah, that's what

you know what they want. But sometimes, like when when they just will say gay, it's interesting to go into the room and see what else people have prepared, because some people will come in with this sort of caricature and it can be confusing because you don't know who's casting it. Maybe they do want the caricature, or maybe they do want When I read gay. I'm like, maybe I'll just go in as myself and that will be enough because I'm gay. But it's confusing because it's like,

from a casting standpoint, what do they want? How can I represent this? Um? Like with integrity. It's very kind of it starts. It starts with the material. If the material is good, Um, that's all I really actually care about. If the writing is good, that's where you start, and then you get in You can get into the minutia of personality acting, you know, but just ask John Wayne what that's about, you know, or any major star you

can think of. Uh, very rarely do you have a Meryl Streep role and becomes that person so intently that you can't believe that she played someone else at some point exactly, you know. And I don't mean that as a bad thing. I just mean that's not as it's not it's not normal. It's not normal. And also it's like sort of not in vogue now, you know what I mean. There's there's not a lot of actors you can say besides Meryl, And there's not a lot of like I think people like for example, like say Margot

Robbie's age that do the chameleon thing. And that's why when everyone's like, like, somebody asked the question recently, who's the next who's the Meryl of like our generation? And someone said cre Sharon, And I'm like that, you know, that's close. But really it's like nowadays, because you need like a personal brand and everything, you don't see a lot of people stepping in and out of things and disappearing because it's important that we're also able to like

see them slay it on a talk show. You know, someone that says Jennifer Lawrence is the next Meryl. It's like, well, there's a big difference there. Yeah. Yeah, although I did see that she'll be playing a Russian woman, so that I saw that that's gonna be fascinating. Yes, absolutely, we'll see,

we'll see. I think what happens with that sort of thing, with the Russian thing is people leave out their voices, and a voice is a part of the character that you're developing, and so I just want to put that out there. Sure, they're first taking the voice for the accent, complete your character with the voice, you have to follow through. Yes, yes, yes, that's that's very true. And I never thought about that until it and when you can't figure out why you're

not loving someone's performance, it's usually their voice. Oh can I tell you? Um? Sometimes with Kate Winslet, sometimes I think she's usually brilliant, but sometimes when her American accent seems extra American, I'm always like, what's going on? Like, I think she's better when she speaks in some sort of European dialect. And I read that English and Australian actors have a specifically hard time with the American accent

because of the rs like they speak. The ohs are like that, and then the R is like a hard thing. So I can really hear them struggling to do that. Just one thing that kind of distracts me. And also, Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts clearly have the same vocal coach because they have the same voice when they do American roles. Maybe there's only one in Perth, maybe there's only one on the on the West coast about Australia.

But I love her though, we love we love you, Perth, all of our listeners in Perth, We're coming, We're coming. I don't think so, honey, in Perth, It's coming live in two There you go, Perth. I would love to visit. Perth is the only place in Australia have not had the privilege of going to. But you've been everywhere else, bit shut up, Yes, I haven't been to the outback. You ho. Now we just made a left turn. I just don't like lies, lies and fairy tales, lies and

fairy tales, the bow and Yang story. Fine, I own up to my embellishment. Listen, you've got to do it when you when you're talking like you're Elizabeth Hasselbeck herself been to the Australian Outback. Now, legs and shoulders though, the last thing to go on a woman, and it's legs. Now, Oh my god, this is fantastic. Now, okay, this sounds like it's I've been. I've been prefacing all my questions, but this is a little yeah, stop doing that something

at culture. Does you know what Nathan Annasky straight please? Is this is Eli to Vegas? Does it feel like a reunion with Will I? Maybe you're not seeing him every day on set, but at least, well, this is how it feels. It feels as though the tonality of the show is so him, and that is so special to me because it just feels like home. You know what I get as humor, and so because it's close

to mine as far as this genre is concerned. And I love the fact that it's so fast paced that you actually have to watch it twice so um, which is great because you can go back and like, you know, did they say that? Oh, they did say that? So you know it's it's great. And apparently I'm putting the gift game. You are full blast, you've been you know, I had no idea, but then you know, the children are telling me now that children know that I'm full on gift. But it's it's the face. It's it's the face.

It's the body. It's face face, body face. Give them face, body face. And the Bbi Sahara. We're very into Bishara and her music. Suns you are. We're providing the material. So you should be very very happy. And there is no better line. There's no better interaction in due Lander than the one you have after the coffee is the latte the famulas that was fourteen spills and the reaction is the same because if it's cold or hot, it's

the same on screen. Sure, And I remember been being rather you know, perplexed about the coffee not showing up on the T shirt, and he said, this is the gayest T shirt in the world because we were in to exist, and that's when two exists just came out, right. But it wasn't time enough because it had to be you know, I have a nice I can't believe I was going to say I have a nice chest. I have defined chest. Yes, a defined chest is what I

meant to say. I have a definedest. So so we need the shirt to sort of they come away from the crevice, which I think it did a good job of. But what they had to do was they had to cut it on the sides and so her up because we try to do it with a little clamp, but it was pulling in the wrong spot, right. So movie magic, that's what they call that. Movie magic. We'll be learning about that when we go to Universal Studio. Well, I mean we and that was b roll. That wasn't supposed

to be. We were doing that for Ben's benefits. A plus. If that wasn't in the movie, I mean, we wouldn't know because we would never have seen it. But that would have been a real loss loss cinema. It's it's it's an inherently queer moment. Oh yes, it's rippled out. You know, it's one of those moments that you were watching. I mean, Nathan's laughing, but it's true. It's very gay and thank god. And also that's how I know I

love will fare All so deeply. Because of course, then he became like sort of the poster child for like fifteen year old high school kids being like, oh yeah, Santiago whales vagina dude. But like, no, what they don't understand is there was the phony latte Phlmy latte makes me bloated and gassy. Yes, yes, I mean farty. My mistakes are your mistake. Indeed, I mean, come on, my mistakes, Jacobin.

I'm sorry. We're in the presence of you, right, we have to be so and and just originating the pronunciation, I mean, there's just so much too well, that's the when I looked at it, I said, that's the way it sounds, Jacot, even hearing you saying, oh my god, I mean and we did have to cut because there's too much laughter. After I first said, I was like, what is someone laughing about? Because that's actually that's why I actually thought it would sound. How is it actually

how is it supposed to be pronounced? I don't know. I bet no one to, you know, but I said, jacobtan you know, I guess it didn't have to be sort of French on the on the front side of it. Yeah, it could have been Jacobin. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that doesn't sound like yoakum or jokum. Yeah yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying, Jacob. But I thought he's a designer, and he's trying to be, you know, a fancy designer even though he's only done the piano tie, and so

I wanted to, you know, pump him up. Yes, yes, yes, jac beautiful. That actually happened one other time in cinema history. Alicia Silverstone instead of Haitians said Haitians, and they went to correct her, and Amy Heckling, the director, was like, don't you dare she will say Haitians each time, and it will be will be in the movie. Absolutely Haiti's certainly party with the Haitians. So good experienced, one of

the best ever. I think Jacobin manages edges it out just I don't think I have two more favorite movies than Zoolander and Clueless. And that says everything. You know. You know the night we were shooting that particular scene as well, um was right around the time that al Gore had one and Bush had lost, and by the time we finished it, switched has has I'm sure you've told this before, but this is this is huge. Had to be seared into your memory whenever I was in

the city at that time. Oh my god, this has to be in some movie trivia, because we were all watching it once we started that that was a very long day. I remember it being over like twelve fourteen hours and he was winning and at one floor and then nonsense and just to go back to the wardrobe and I will say, and you and you still do but the body was snatched. They snatch, snatch, snatched, and it was like that. I was like that that guy so funny and and looking at him, wow and fashion icon.

What he's saying by looking at him, Wow? Is he wanted you? You yea great news. This makes me so happy. I hope this is I hope this makes you well. I actually recently we always we we recently met Actually Will Ferrell, did you really watch his snl that It was a fantastic episode and I actually was in the writer's room because our dear friend Sudie Green is a writer on the show, and I was there for it,

and I was I ran into our friend. His name is James Anderson, writer on SNL for many years, and I told him, Um, he wrote a sketch series called Deep House Dish and he worked. Remember. Yes, So that like changed my life in terms of knowing that people got my sense of humor. Like I was, I can keep going on existing in the world because someone gets it. That to me was like that your entire performance in that movie. I was like, oh my god, Yes, God, that's like a formative piece, you know. So we love

telling you that. I appreciate it very much for for everything you've done and continue to do with Elia Vegas. Fantastic. We can't wait to keep watching it. Just it's we're preempted tomorrow night, I believe because of another comedy at the White House. Yeah, that comedy. Can you even fathom the nonsense that is Omarosa Managult going on Celebrity Big Brother within a month of leaving the White House. It's truly but it goes beyond irony. And I don't know

what the phrases. It's not it's not funny, it's not even like it's like, I don't even know what it is. It's a fantastic or something. It's it's it's just I don't know. It's beyond, it's beyond. And also it's like you see her name, and then the rest of the cast is like, oh my god, there's not even anyone here like that's going to understand a word of what's going on. It's like a Lance Bass who I don't have.

I don't know. Maybe he's lovely and very intelligent. He might be, and I don't know, but he should stay away. Yeah he doesn't In any case, I don't know. It was like a secret close friend. No God, I mean not no, no God, but no lancing to on TV? He does on the TV? I don't. I don't know. I think he probably watches likes friends have TVs, so so let's lances on TV. Unfortunately, Lance's friends are every gay in l A. We have this back and I love the what is that the thing he did? The race?

He did amazing race? No, not the the in France? What's it what's it called? Yes? I love the Twitter France. Lance Armstrong. Yes, absolutely, the other lance. Wait a minute, which one were we talking about? I conflated them and you know what, you know why because they're both blond. Yeah. And this actually, let's let you get away with Scott free because you've got them. I got them confused. I had door Lands bass. Here is he affiliated with the

bass shoes? Absolutely? All right, he must be. Now lend the bass guitar and then the bass and the bass fish. Oh right, he was part of the band. The band he actually was, interestingly enough, the bass and in sync. And his last name is bass. That's irony. That's irony. There is no conflating words. Now let's move on to our segment, our ending segment. I don't think which Nathan has come so prepared for. I'm prepared. We're not going to be able to get to all of them, so

so what I'm just going to read them off. I think you should read them off and then and then whichever one you feel you connect with the most in this moment, that's what the one or you feel connected with. And we already got one on. So my thing is, if you get in front of me, either on the road or walking, you have to go faster. Yeah, if you're listening to music on your headphones, you should be the only one hearing that music. It's a big I'm guilty of being on the other side of that. I'll

just leave this out there. Too much riffing, I'm guilty of that. Too much riffing is not good, just not good. Um, not knowing what you want when you get to the counter, thank you. Yes, there's the passion. Okay, we already went over both sides, and then I have one here that's really sort of minutia. But but it's a explaining something that's obvious. More than once. It drives me. It drives me insane. I think I think I want to hear your I don't think so, honey, on too much riffing.

I sort of want to hear it about the counter, Okay, it's a I think the reason why I want to hear mine is because and I think listeners will agree with me. It's more, Um, you know you like it because it has to do with you. I like this mother because you are stupid. It's a slice of life, and it's everyone can relate to. Oh what, so we're gonna hear another one about how someone was a problem in a restaurant. Tail us all this time, I want to all this time. You should never start that song

off with riffing. So here's to start us. First of all, a riff or amanti or anything, you know, something like this a grace note. They happen as a as a form of musical emotion. They have to come from somewhere. So you can't really do a riff at the top of a fucking song unless it's so specific. You know. It was like Barbro where we were, Yeah, where are you riffing? There? You go, Okay, don't want to riff about you know what? I think? Fine, I will concede

and let you. Let let Nathan do the one. I'm gonna jump in there on that counter though, Well, we'll come a little what you know, what you can You can do whatever you want with your time. Let me tell you something. It's rule number sixty three culture. You can do whatever you want with your time. But you want to shake it up, you want to do you want to do at the viti and you could do

whatever you need. You definitely don't riff that. You get when you get to the front of the counter not knowing what you want that's why don't you know what you want? Do you know what you want? It's like, what do I want to hold that I'm here? Dead? Your dad? Your dad? Okay, So especially at the movie theater, especially at the cinema, you mean to tell me you don't know what movie you want to see? You That's what I had to assume you were going to say.

Was when they go up to the snacks concessions, to go up to the box office and not know which flick, It's like, what is happening? What is I want them to spontaneously combust? When they also, they're all so different at any given point of time. You're never gonna see X Men and Spider Man at the same thing. So if when you're getting married you choose choose, this is not selfie choice. It's not self choice choice. Guess what, bitch, it's not dead to the fact you can see it later.

So this is a communal I don't think so, honey, And I'm loving them, loving it. So let's have let's let's have Maco or I can go first. I'll go first. So we'll do one minute each on our topics and then we will throw it to Nathan Will you put me on the clock. So this is Matt rob hold on, I said I had to right, yes, Oh my god, I know I have a bad memory nowadays. You want me to go first, No, no, I'll go first. I know which one I want to do. Okay, this is Matt.

So you work in the phrase I don't think so, honey, is as much as you can this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so many as time starts now, I don't think so, honey. When I watch an award show and it's as if there's only one movie or one song or one album that came out that whole motherfucking year. Bruno Mars and his little ass. Let me

tell you something magic. Sure, when I first heard it famously on a party boat, I did gag, and I shook my kind of a little bit for a white point kind of big ass, and I sort of enjoyed myself.

But if I had known, bitch by the end of the year that it was gonna take album record, sorry performance bitch, I would say I would eat my hats because, let me tell you something, there's no way that it's the best written song and best performance song and best produced song in the whole year and also happens to

be on the best album of the year. No, we need to spread the wealth, bitch, and I don't want to open up this Oscar's conversation and then see the Shape of Water wins every motherfucking thing, because I'll be very upset. Bodak Yellow should have won something because it's the only song in the club that will have you wind it at the end. Fuck. These award shows then only give out to one thing that's one minute, that's my best one and I've done in months. Oh my goodness, inspired, inspired,

and you know what's you know what's uninspired? Award shows that only give awards to one thing? Thank you. That's true. That's true. Diversifications, diversify it up. Also, I want to say one more thing about the Grammys. How dare they? And I said months ago, I said if ed Shearon beats Miss Kelly, Miss Pink, Miss Gaga and Miss Kesha for that Pop Local Performance Award. The gaze we stats when we stormed the castle, And what has happened? What

has occurred? A song that was bit a little bit by the way by with the three girls left Eye and Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Kenny Burris has a songwriting credit. I don't want no scrubs. You know what else? I don't want no Ed Sheeran showing up on my television taking award from All My Girls dance leaving just as we're talking about the Dirty Gina alright, So that's my

I don't think so, honey. Also, it's kind of kind of strange that we're awarding we're awarding a song that says I'm in love with the shape of you, that I gratifies a woman's body in this year, the shape of water there you go, shape of Yeah, you know what that is a sign that's gonna win. Fuck right, that's all right, Okay, as Mila one said, fuck use

on the clock, we're on the closs alright. I just noticed that there's two iconic Mila's jec and with that, with that, I don't think, so, honey, is time starts now? I don't think, so, honey. Lost Culturesta's listeners who keep telling Matt and I did comment on Britney Spears' Instagram and it's not we have no onus to do this. It's too sad, it's too tragic. It's just as sad as Omarrossa going on celebrity big brother, don't make us do this. It's you know what, We love you so much.

We will do anything for you, but except for comment on Britney Spears's Instagram negatively, negatively, because we're not going to do that, you know. And there's Instagram and it's and it's she's having fun, she's having fun, she's doing a lot. We love it. But people are just telling us to be snarky about it, and we're like, no, it's it's got our job. We we don't We don't

want to drag people down. We don't want to. You know, you are people who we don't do that here, very positive know what this is, what it is, it's punching down. So I don't think so many people who want us to punch down, because that's not what we do here, honey. Lots culture, we lift up, we punch up, We do things up honey, and it's up we go, it's up

we go. And I have to say, I absolutely concur if you think you're going to tune into this podcast and here's something mean about someone who you know has been through it and you know, maybe can't speak for herself. And defend herself. You're not gonna hear it here, honey, You're only gonna hear snark about mask drag performers at Gaffron and the like, because they are in control. They are there. You go. So, Nathan, we've arrived. Have you

reached any clarity about what you want to speak on? More? The rift thing? The counter? I think, I mean, we we we we we talked about what I really have a thing about already. But if if I must go on, you must, I think we should just put the clock on and see where the funk happens. That's what I think. Should we do that? Well, listen, here, here's the thing about here's the thing about it. Uh, there are a couple of things that get on my nerves. First of all,

we'll just go down the list. Um. The getting in front of me really does bug me because it's like, Okay, I'm not walking fast enough. I know, I don't. Think, so honey, I walk fast enough. I'm gonna start the timer. Here we go go. Think so honey, I walk fast enough. But if you think you're gonna get your little butt in front of me and then walk slower, what is that all about? Especially? On these streets, on these New

York City streets. No one's coming from me on these New York City streets along with my bag, which it works at some sort of rudder, you know what I'm saying, and it keeps me going. It keeps me going. So I purposely walked just slow enough so they can't go around. So, you know what, honey, I don't think so. I don't think so on the road either. I don't think so on the road either. You're gonna get in front of me, and I'm already in the middle lane. I'm in the

middle lane. So if you really want to go that fast, get in the fast lane. Get I don't think so, honey. You're gonna get in front of me, Get in front of me and go fast, not slow. Don't slow it down. Oh now I'm front I'm in front of him. Like some sort of psychological thing you want to get in front of me ain't gonna happen. So that's how that's this is the impact that will have. No one will ever do that again. No one will ever get to anyone at least say hello, and guess what, at least

say hello before you fuck me up. Exactly breaking my stride. Nobody gonna break in my stride. Me down, Oh no, I got to keep the mood and they gotta keep up. Come on placement, no riffing, there no just a clear note. And let me tell you something. Here's the t My head is hot. We because we have un you know, we know that we have listeners. We have seen the diagnostics.

I think is the word. We know that you're in analytics. Analytics. Sure, I don't know my words, but I do know my heart, my famous saying, UM, I know we have people listening here in San Francisco. I know Los Ange that you guys listen. I know we have some people in our Lando they're listening. And I know you're on the open road. I know this is not a situation like New York City where you don't think this applies to you. We'll guess what, bitch, We're talking to everyone that gets behind

the wheel of a car and tries it. Don't don't try it. Don't especially if I'm in the middle. If I'm in the middle of lanes. The thing is that. And you know what, if I'm going by the speed limit rules and you have an issue, an issue with that, take your ass to the fast Out, Go to the fast Lane, Get Out, Get Out, directed by Jordan Peel, starring Betty Gabriel starring Betty Gabriel of an Oscar. And

here's my thing. Don't you understand satire? Some people who come to me and say, I don't gotta that's enough. That's another I don't think that's It's like, it's a satire. What's a satire? Then read a book, read a book. It's not unsebtlek read a book. B It's actually a real member forty eight culture reading a book. Bitch. Nathan gets it. Nathan, Nathan's joining us on. This is a episode, and this is an episode. Read a book, bitch, read a book. Bitch read book. This so great, this is

this is one of my favorites, ultimate favorite. Do you think absolutely I've had to be a double L and read book. You don't know what that means? It to this ball um l a to Vegas Tuesday nights at night, Miss Fox. And then someone's like, oh my god, I don't know if I want to. I said, it's not Fox News. Yeah right, they two different things. Boo. I thought they were supporting the evil Conglomerate no, two different things, and Disney has bought us now anyway, exactly right, thank you, bye,

thank you President. No, please, no, they stick in your life. You just hear that they want to possibly buy the five G like the network, and the government wants to buy five G network and then have the phone companies rent from them. That just came out to day. No, I don't know as they think because they think that China is going to spy on us through the five G network and they want to control it and have

this phone company's rent from them. I'm just saying, wow, you know what China's going to spy you know what could happen. Oh my god, I don't even want to This is this is this is getting this is getting real and bleak. Okay, you dropped the baby. I think this is gonna be when you finished, Mom, Mom, maybe you got to bomb on me. We would have to get up. Iconic drop, Iconic drop, And thank you everyone for listening, and you're welcome for this. Thank you so much.

Nathan Lee Grant, I've had such a pleasure. You guys are wonderful, are so much fun. I hope to come back and do a little guest spot. Oh no, you get any time you want it. Literally, you tell Dan to get in touch with us and we will make it happy. Hen there you go. Yes, usually around Awards season we would be honor. So are you in Oscars? You know Officionado? Yes? Okay cool. That's HPJ just looked at me with hate in his heart because because basically he emailed and said, I think we should do an

all Oscars episode. I said, bitch, we already did that and here we're here, we sit. But also, h p J, I wouldn't have changed the thing about this episode. And this is all entirely like not ship of you. The listeners need to hear exact were just probably means we should wrap it up. We'll wrap it up, wrapping it up, wrapping it up, so finishing the hat, wrapping up the app, as Stephen Sondheim once said, wrapping up the app, wrapping up TEP, signing in a ball, making it just so,

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