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"Choices, Honey" (w/ Chrissy Shackelford)

Jan 18, 20171 hr 12 minEp. 17
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I got news for you, bitch — this episode of Las Culturistas has hills & valleys. HILLS. AND. VALLEYS. Your Culture Tsars Matt & Bowen are joined by the radiant Chrissy Shackelford (@ChrissySh). Though the repartee is amicable at first, it eventually devolves into the most contentious moment yet on the Las Culturistas podcast. Aside from this drama, Culture Topics include Chrissy’s Orlando Plans, WB’s “Popular,” Jeremy Piven, the 2017 Award Season, "The Devil Wears Prada,” Your Inner You vs. Your Outer You, Winona Ryder, Wynona Judd, Ashley Judd, Horror Movies, and much much more.

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My grandma and your grandma was sitting bad fire. My grandma to your grandma, I'm gonna sit fire. It's talking about hind I go jagomo ja. Oh my gosh, can you believe it? It's time, It's time. It's time to grow. Um, you're here. Let me just I want to just take a quick second to take stock, taking inventory of all the catchphrases that have really truly organically sprung up on Lost culture. Ristas I was thinking about this, the other wiw um we've got you can't even get your life?

Of course I don't think so, honey. Um, all the dud day ticks and tacks and look there are more comming, honey, did we just create another one? It's time to grow. Well, that's one between you that you and I have had for quite some time, for many years. You guys are take getting a true glimpse into our friendship. And you know what, today on this episode, you're going to get an even closer glimpse into a large relationship, which is the relationship that Bowen and I have with our guests.

To guest, let's list the credit, honey, because you know they're important. She is the star and writer of her solo show, Diane Tranquilla presents Not Dry Yet Yes at the UCB Theater you can see it running. And she also is on the USB Man team the Classic Classic Comedy Provided Classic and she was also a former cast member in Characters Welcoming UCB. She teaches at UCB. Take her class. Take her class characters with Chrissy Shackle first and she herself as a character and you'll be curing

that today. Thank you so much, Chrissy. This is a huge historic culture est this moment because your name has been dropped at least one never maybe besides Henry and Sudi, the most referenced person, I would say, thank you so much. I am a mythical creature in this world, happy to be coming out of the forest. I'm so happy to expose this is gotcha journalism from your I want to be treated with the same amount of love and respect that you treated your boyfriend on the last episode. I

will probably even more. I'll probably even treat you better because I was trying to be very like keep a professional, which and then I wept. Yeah, I was about to say like it didn't feel that way when that whole long like three minutes or to Henry about how wonderful is and he truly is. He deserves every word he said about him. But I will not be shaded from my love. I was going to say during that episode, and this is just the last episode. I feel like

there wasn't enough of a reference to your relationship. We got here and I was like, I was like, Bom, we gotta keep professional. We're not going to talk about me and Henry's relation. And then he was like, what almost like we must talk about it, we have to Why compartmentalize? I guess you're right, we're so transparent on the show. Why stop exactly? Why stop at the bedroom? Why why drop the veil? Now? You know, you guys

are very transparent on this show. And one of my favorite things, and I've told you both separately, is how you're always coming back from a hiatus. And I feel like offended that I am not on an episode we're coming back from hiatus. I wanted to talk about it for an hour. I want to talk about your Christie did say that whenever she came on she wanted the first about minutes to all be about the hiatus. Okay, well, what have you guys been doing, Who's been to China,

who had a hard time with an apartment? Who's going to Orlando soon? Just went to Christie, you just hit such a nerve. I'm going to Orlandish at the end of January. I'm doing four days at Disney and only one day at Universal, but I am going to carry pot or work. That is how you do it, though, And have you been before? I went when I was four, so I don't remember my first time yet. Not to bring Disney into this, but it is a whole new world that it was horrible. I'm shaming. Wait, I'm so

excited for you. And can I also tell you, I like planned Nicole Silverberg's whole trip to Orlando, and then she just told me she had to cancel it because Branson got He's going to um slam Dance the film festival film which is amazing, which is amazing. I'm so excited for them, but also, god damn it, what a shame I have to say, knowing nothing about anything you just said. Just hearing that slam Dance is the name of festival sounds like a middle school film. It's very prestigious.

Festival is called slam Dance. Slam dance sounds like what you call us like a spring formal. Who's going to the slam? But it's like the alt dance. It's like half of the gym is like a basketball court for the for the boys who don't want to dance, and half the gym is like a dance floor. Yes, now, Christie, who are you going to Orlando? Tell important? I'm going with my sister and her husband and their kids and my mom. That's a good cross section because how old

how young are the kids? Uh? Well she has five, so they four, six, eight, ten and twelve. Wow, she just she really pays pulse to those out two years. That's insane. It is insane because me and my siblings are very far apart in age. Me and my sister ten years apart, and my brother and I are five years apart. So technically we're all five apart in age. So that will be very fun. So you will get you'll be gagged because all the age groups are representative.

I will see it through a child's eyes and you'll get to do everything. Well, here's the thing, that's a lot of kids to be going around universal. Within one day, we split. I believe they split because they do this trip every year, so they'll be like, I'm going to take the older kids do this one adult because now there's four adults for five kids, which the littles are going to go do the teacups. Why the olders do

this thing? And a lot of them are like old pros except for the two years the four year old one maybe yeah, the four year old is like going to wear her princess dress. I just want to really really put your game face on the universal day because that's a lot to do in one day. But you can do you can do it. You need to get an express pass and you get a par copper. Okay, don't know what any of the words mean. And I see, okay,

thank you so much. Me after you're also going to miss Rachel when it's going to be missed a whole month, and you would have gonna just missed that, right, You would have missed me Mountain Sudy because we were very tentatively planning a trip out there early March when Sudie was going to be on hiatus, but then that fell through because financially did so I did just miss you by a month, absolutely, So you just missed by the

skin of your teeth. You missed us. But the thing is, though to plan a trip there right now, it's kind of a waste because so much good stuff is coming to Orlando in the summer. Can I list just a few? Oh boy, I really opened up a Pandora's box. After this will move on, but I do want to say coming to Orlando this summer is Avatar in Disney World. Animal Kingdom is opening up the Avatar of the world of Pandora. Is it based on James Cameron's Yes, it is.

It's an entire world. It's going to be an Animal Kingdom. Okay, because an Avatar obviously we have animals. I don't know. I don't know. I never saw the movie. I just remember Avatar is like that Halloween everyone in college like hot girls painting themselves blue and had their tits out. Like That's what I remember of Avatar. Do you know how many times I told that like Jake Sulley, not as a human, as avatars of Avatar. They were like, you look like Jake Sully when he becomes That's really

that's sweet. It is always nice to be compared to a celebrity. It's always nice. When I was younger when everyone was doing that Doppelganger day on Facebook, and I was like, I don't know what mine was, Uh, every every one of my friends just like I don't really know yours either. But I guess if I had to say, maybe Mischa Barton and was that at the time. Was it a compliment or was it a deep insult? I don't think ever saying like, I don't know if you

have one, but maybe something is ever cover. I have to ask you, Matt, if there's an Avatar ride, where is the zero dark thirty ride? Need some gender equality in the parks? That would Dark thirty Attraction look like? You do? You follow Jessica Chastain into into the like into the compounds of the compound. It's a ride where hardly anyone goes on it, but it's critically a claim. Yeah,

you're right, you're right. Can you believe these sirens in the background obviously they know obviously someone out there is like, come on, get to the culture that Christie experience as a child. Anything else, Yes, of course, I just want to say no moving away from Disney now, because of

course we have Avatar opening. We'll see, um, there's going to be a ride where you fly on the back of a bandsheet and apparently beneath your beneath you and in between your legs, you can feel the beast um breathing and you can feel the warmth of its body. Apparently this is this is what I hear, okay, as you're unconfirmed, that's what I hear. And also there's going

to be a NAVI river journey. Apparently at the end you're gonna go through like this big scene where the Tree of Life is like amazing and lighting up and um sinking to the songs, and it's like kind of like a family friendly river journey with this amazing finale where you feel the beast between your legs and then you get wet at the end. You have to bring her own beast on that one. But but I don't

know if you get wet at the end. But also apparently there will be bioluminescent flowers and all throughout the land and when you touch it, the plant will respond to your touch. Who knows. But and then moving away, moving back to universal of course we're getting Jimmy fallon the ride. Yeah, replacing Twister, which is a real thing. If you want to ride Jimmy Fallon, that's the orland in April, There's there's Is it just a ride where he rides other celebrities coattails? Oh? Is it just a ride?

Is it just a ride where he keeps reminding us he's friends with Justin Timberlin. Oh, I don't think so, Honny. You know, Jimmy Follen is a friend of the show. Now Jimmy Fallon is a friend of the show, providing Henry Henry Kopersky and opportunity with the first Lady Michelle Obama. Okay, well watch your mouth. Jimmy Fallon, did black face not wrong? That is true, and never apologize for it because no one ever really cared. And then brought on my internet.

Nobody brought back the pression at the Golden Gloves. Okay, Christy, let's yes, Chrissy, let's ask you the question we ask all our guests, what was the culture that made you figure out that culture was for you? Did you say culture? I might want to proceed in into finding more more about this culture. Yes, well, as a huge fan of the show, I did think about this question. Okay, she came prepared and many of my culture moments had been taken.

I will say that's okay. I have one that I am shocked you guys have never talked about on this show. Um no Beast Beast Wars. Okay, let's keep guessing Pokemon and girl, Well, who do you think I am? Sailor Moon? No,

Michelle Gellet closer to who I might be. But Jennifer love Hewart very good, loved her episode work, did love Sabrina the I love tell Us So the WB show that was on put up a Facebook says about like six months did not really shaped by Happy the Dog and Simon huffing painted by the title and happy as happy we ever would She's gonna say, what do you think it is popular? Ryan Murphy's popular one? I should say it was a huge TV on DVD girl like that?

What remember when that was like a huge thing When TV shows got on DVD, Me and my mom would watch that website called TV Shows on DVD would have all the release states for shows that would come out on DVD box sets. That is what you got for Christmas and birthdays is TV shows? At least for me, I got the popular disc sets season one and season two. I also watched it when it was one well quick

box sets were so expensive to keep going. Oh god, and likes like a season forget it, the for like the for like the big long shows, for like the shows that were big and long for one season. You've got eighty five dollars. Let me tell you, I'm calling you out. You would be shocked at how expensive some of these, probably Aaron sork In the assholes are charging for every word. So popular popular Ryan Murphy show on

the wbet either you guys watch it. I only know it was actually three right, and this is before I knew Ryan Murphy as a thing. It was this high school show with this like ridiculous satire but also like lived in the genre of the high school show. But then out of nowhere, there's a character called like Mary Cherry, and she's from Texas. In to her mother is Delta Burke. Her name is Cherry Cherry. There's one episode where all the women get trapped in a bathroom. It's called caged

because they're all on their periods. So they're like freaking out together because they're all on their period and they all reveal their secrets. Mary Cherry played by Leslie gross Um, who's gone on to do nothing, which is a travesty. I mean she pops up in some shows. She was on What I Like About You, That dumb a man

and mind she was like a friend. Um, they're all comes up that this, like one girl had webbed fingers and toads like that was a story on the show, and they treat it with like such like cliche not cliche. What's the word? Um? It seems camp camp. It seems like a campy show about high school, which I feel like, or you know, you were saying, it's like a high school satire in high school shows, which probably wasn't really dampooned up until then in the night in the late nineties.

What did you just say? Very strangely, but he said, lambs me Um, I speak multiple language, so you're so he does. He speaks French and Mandarin. I'm so surprised that he speaks multiple languages, using that excuse that my tongue is maybe not suited to certain words when I say it very quickly. Is that what you say on dates? Yes, I speak multiple languages and my tongue a little crazy. My tongue is a little crazy. I love this. I

can't believe I didn't watch the show. I still have the DVDs I've sold almost every If I ever want to get these I've had. If I ever want to get horny real fast, you can just go you can search Niptuck because you know who I love is the star of Niptuck. What's his name, Julian Something. Yeah, Julian Something. I actually think is hot. Yes he is, and was sexy. I know. It was really just feeling of that shows like this is what sexy feels like. It's like a

young person. Ryan Murphy is pretty good at that. He's pretty good at capturing that like kind of like illicit feeling. I will say Popular was not a sexy show. And one of the other things that shaped me culturally is the movie Dropted Gorgeous. Oh I love that movie. Come. I think actually one of the best comedy movies of

that What a stacked cast too. You've got Amy Adams, Denise Richard's Adams in her first role and her first role in Pasting Call from that town that they shot at And yeah, she was she was doing dinner theater. She was just a girl and Boulder doing dinner theater, Boulder, Colorado. Um. And then she just got it, and now she's incredibly obnoxious, Like, look at her trajectory. Any one of us could be picked up in our little town and then becoming incredibly star.

You don't like Amy Adams. I like watching her act Adams apologist. I love her. Her Vogue seventy three questions was so charming. Oh, I see, I haven't watched the only Vogue video that I watched with Taylor Swifts. Like, what is this series that focus doing where they just the most bad? They're mostly bad at some of them, and they're completely scripted, but they try to play it off as if it's like in the moment that's part of Taylor Swift's Folks sventy three questions, advice you'd give

to a young singer get a good lawyer? I love? Well. This brings up another thing that you posted recently, Matt on your I won't say the word because you hate the site. Um that like photos series that the celebrities were doing. This is my outer life, this is my inner life. I really hate when celebrities give like little

hints at my life is really hard. Yeah, secretly behind this, I'm just insecure and really a lot like you, And would you believe that someone actually came for me after posting that and said and said, Matt, I hope that you become famous one day and you hate it. Who s out that to you was a Anne Hathaway who said that to you. No, you don't have to name it. I'll just say the person is no longer my Facebook friends, and I've never been happier, amazing, just a toxic person.

I don't care if for you coming to the defensive celebrities, if they don't have a sense of humor about themselves. For me, one of the biggest requirements for you as a person living your life is you've gotta have a sense of humor about yourself. So when Anne Hathaway is up there like Okay, cool, Yes, I'm gonna do this um project where I show my inner self and it's going to be miserable because I want everyone to know that, like, really,

deep down, I'm very insecure. It's like, you know what, and Hathaway, we could guess that we're people to like, we don't need you grandstanding about it. It's my biggest problem with like those people, like I get what you're saying about Amy Adams because like she also did that in that photo series. I think that was my start to be like and I was so disappointed with that because I'm like, God, please have a sense of humor about yourself, like seem like she does. Yeah, I think

I don't know. I also think, you know, the thing is what Anne Hathaway is you consistently get the feeling that she doesn't have a sense of humor about herself. Um, but with Amy Adams, I had never seen that before.

So I was disappointed. But I just think there's nothing funnier than people who take themselves so seriously, Like it's just so it's so messed up by funny you mean not funny, Well, I mean I I feel bad for them because obviously, like they don't have like humor in their lives and they're not able to see themselves like and and then like have a laugh about it, like obviously they've got some other issues to work out, like

and that that sucks. I feel bad for them, but also like, if we're going to have to look at you all day every day in the media, like I don't don't expect don't expect me not to be like I'm in a poke fun at this because Lighten up. Do you know what I mean? That's fair. Matt and I went to Philly this weekend and we had we

were listening to. We listened to two full Lady Gaga albums in the car right down, and the conclusion that we reached as a car was she is great because she's so goofy, does not take herself seriously, but also takes herself so seriously, so seriously at times that it's easy to make fun of. I think she knows that about herself. Also think like what I'm saying is like it's an eben of flow, like Amy Adams. She might

have had a a weird day that day. I was like, I'm actually going to really give into this like indulgent part of my personality and do this weird thing. Whereas I think Gaga has had parts of her career where she does take herself super seriously and she doesn't succeed and her fans aren't as excited about it because we

can see that's happening. And then other times, like when it's more joyful and fun and you're actually just doing what you put on this earth to do, which is to entertain and too, like you know, make everyone happy. And feel like I feel emotion like that's what you're supposed All I'm saying is one time she was in Paris and the paparazzi were hounding her, and so she put a bedsheet over her face and then pretended to be a ghost and said, whoa, And I love that

you that's unimpeachable. You cannot hold anything against her anyway. But I will say there is something that and I noticed this during the Golden Globes that I feel like young celebrities especially feel like they need to manufacture a humorous personality for themselves. Like I guess I'm just remembering from when I was a kid and watching Awards shows like I don't remember, like Halle Berry or like Julia Roberts, like trying to have this outer personality of being quirky.

It feels like this is something we are now asking of our younger like Hollywood A listers like em A Stone and Chris Pratt and what. I love them and they are like probably humorous people, but it seems like something we are expecting of them now. Yeah, you can't exactly and you can't really be an Anne Hathaway where it's like, no, I am just like a talented actor and I am probably a little crazy. Just don't let me speak in public, like, let me just like read

a tele prompt. I like Ann Hathaway's work. I just think, like, you know, she was probably asked to do that project, and she has she has the ability to say no to it. If if if the notoriety and in the limelight makes her so miserable and all this stuff, if that's true, then she didn't have to do this exactly. You know, that me very meaningful. Probably she would reach

so many young girls. But also like fun that photographer to who like I'm sure he came up with that idea and thought it was so novel and genius, But then parts of it were fun. I mean you see you saw the one that and it was it was fun. I mean there were ones there, There were a lot of opportunities there to have fun with that project. And I don't care. I don't really care to see, like just so you know, like my real life is like I am just like I do. Sit in the dark.

I don't care. I'm just like sit in the dark, and I understand, I get it. Just sit in the dark. I know you're a human being real quick. Let's just do our both of our poses right now to each other, and we'll just describe them to our listeners. How does the world see you? This is this is my outer life. He's smiling. He's smiling in one of his one of his shoulders is popped forward, and he's got both hands. He's flat on the table and he's looking up. Okay,

and then and then and what is the real you? Oh, he's like a little mime, like a French French and trapped in a box. My mouth is perfect. His mouth is a perfect circle, and it's almost he's looking ahead and someone looking about to get hit by a car. Yeah, I know, I look like I just walked into a room that said surprise. Yes but you, but you kind of knew it was but I kind of knew it was gonna happen. Okay, So now this is how I think the world seems a brilliant brimming over one shoulder. Okay,

this is very Matt. Matt mckinvouch for this. This is very Taylor Swift on the ninety nine World to her first number, Welcome to New York. It ends, and then she turns, and then she the song ends on a beat, and then she right on time, just tosses her hair back and looks to the audience right behind her shoulder, just like that. It's very good, Okay, doing the Taylor Swift finale. And I know that's how you do see you as And now who am I really inside? Okay?

He's thinking like it sounds like he's thinking of the post. No, his post is thinking. He almost looks maniacal. He looks like he's he wants to telepathically move. Something's okay. Now he's motioning to describe his face more. His eyes are very strained, he's smiling. It seems like he's trying to make his veins pop out of his forehead. I don't like that. I don't know what. It seems like he wants us to say a certain thing about his face,

and we're not getting you guys, were good. That's it, okay, And that's that describes how you feel on the inside. Yeah, okay, christ a maniacal face thinker, a maniacal facedinker. Okay, my turn, my outer life here we go. Ohh ship. So basically this is how everyone he's Chrissy, she's fucking chill as fuck. She's got two peace signs up. But also the peace signs are not like she's they're loose deuce is. She's

giving loose deuce is. She's looking down at the table and she's she's basically like, got a little smirk on, and she's chill and chill as now in her life, let's let's see it. What's your inner life. She's putting her head put on and she oh, and she's covering her face with her hands. She literally did what Anne Hathaway a name. She's covering our part of the problem in her life. Does nobody look at me? That's that's accurate. See.

But and now now I'm seeing a different side to this whole Amy Adam sand Hathaway thing is maybe they thought it would be funny. Oh like, maybe they thought they were ironic and it. Yes, maybe they thought they were commenting on the comment they always get, which is you take yourself too seriously. But I doubt it. I don't know that somebody should have been there to be like, man, this doesn't read read tell me your intention does not read.

We're talking about the women in this show. But also can we talk about how bullshit it was when when John Legends two things were identical, which I don't know if that's a comment, but like, John, give us something? Can I tell you something, John Legend, I didn't sign up for John Legend as like the personality and all of a sudden, yeah, well she has my name. I like her, but she has my name and I that really is screwing up my chances in the modeling industry,

in the modeling like funny tweet industry. I'm a big John Legend fan. I love John Legends music. I just feel like, I don't know, like wilds, don't why are you forcing John Legend down our threats? It feels like that in their relationship, especially like any celebrity couple especially, I feel like this has been having a lot with Dak Shepherd and Kristen Bell is like so many news. I like them and I like them both, and I like them as a couple, and I like their work.

But I feel like like finary tween and which I really like it. Just I see so many like relationship goals things like that, just and I'm like, I don't need relationship goals. They've just been together for a long time. I think they genuinely love each other. You guys are coming from you. Guys are coming from you. Hey, Dak Sheppard. I guess I'm just saying I never want to see like relationship goals. I actually love Deak Shepherd and a huge fan punk. You gotta be a deck and it

did not like without at all. Wait, so Dak Shepherd was on Punked with Caitlin O'Connor, right, who from from Always Always Sunny in Philadelphia the Blonde? Is that her last name? O'Connor. I didn't know she was on Punked. Maybe it was a later season, though she was definitely on punk She definitely was um nothing more iconic than justin Timberlake crying. Was that punk that was on? That did that Punked? You know, I can't remember every prank. I can't. I just can't because I was watching Jamie

Kennedy experiment at the same time. Culture back in culture, Well, here's another thing I want to talk about. I have a lot of um. Trickle down culture is what I'll call it. I'll pull a little Hillary Clinton. I want to trumped up trickle down culture. I do want to add it to your lexicon of culture words. Is as a youngest sibling, I feel like you get trickle down

culture from your siblings. And I have an older brother and he would sometimes just leave, like give me movies on DVD or like go rent things like watch this because he wanted me to be in his eyes. Cool. Yes, So I watched a lot of like PC. You do you remember that movie with like Jeremy Piven. He was like, this is the precursor to Old School, And I was like, okay, and then I watched like Old School or um, I'm trying to remember the biggest one, but thoughts on Jeremy Piven.

That's on Jeremy Piven. Um, you know what a few years ago he had that whole thing if he had to back out of a movie because he had mercury poison. It was on Broadway, Um, and I didn't believe it. So since then I've been like, you get mercury poison? Who the hell are you? Tiniest window in which I loved him was when he was in Scary Movie Three. Don't you think he's hot? I think I think he's so hot. He's very short and I'm very tall, so

I can't. I can't. I can't even comment. I like him in the movie serendipity, there's something about him more. I think Jeremy Piven is really attractive. Is it because of Entourage? Because I did. I watched all seasons of Entourage and had those boxes. I think it might be because I remember watching and I know it's problematic walk around and scream and I'm like, oh God, I don't know.

I'm gonna try. Okay, Um, Matt, I'm just gonna point out Matt is feeling a certain way because he's commented on just like men and and and placing value on them based on their looks. Jeremy Piven, the guy from Niptuck and I think this is a theme and I think we should talk about this, Matt. What's going on? What's going on? I'm just have a type I guess. No, I'm kidding, Um, I don't know. I just I happen to think those two You said the words Jeremy Piven, and like, I don't know, I do. Do you know

what it is? And here's what it is, because at the I didn't figure it out. At the height of my hormones raging, two of them were stars. That's what it is. So now I have an association. We've drilled down to the core of culture, which is which is It's like what Lauren Michael says about SML cast, there's people's favorite and caster they were in high school. Um, that's actually interesting because whenever anyone asked for like my

top five, like when who's your top five? Celebrity crushers are like guys like the ones on your list that like, if you were to that celebrity, that celebrity wanted to bang, you cheat on your partner. My number one is always going to be justin timber like that. I didn't know that. And I love Chris Pine. I'm not surprised, but Chrispine didn't come into didn't really break out until I know

he transcends. I always get Chris Pine and Chris Evans confused and that, like, I know the differences, but I have to actively think of both of their faces for me to distinguish them in my brain. That's fair. It's insane how many leading men that are that are all just handsome white dudes named Chris It's like such a joke. It's such a joke to me. It's like, we need

more handsome white men named Chris and film. Um, I was thinking about this today in fact, because tweet referenced that or now what At the tweet he tweeted, Um, I'm gonna trying to get this in paraphrasing obviously goes this was a real puzzle. But um, Chris Evans is carry, Chris Hemsworth is Samantha, Chris Pine is Miranda, and Chris Pratt is Charlotte, which I think is which I would need to I would need to unpack it a little

bit more sure. But what were you going to reference? Oh, because you texted me and was like, who is Tom Everett Scott? Because my Instagram handle is now Tom Everett Scott, We're very confused, like who is this? Tom Evertt is the guy from that thing you do? And um, I changed it to him recently because it's a La La lant and he comes into the end as Emma Stones husband. But also this year Boiler um go seeing La La

land Uh, he comes in. He was in the MTV series Scream this year as one of the high schoolers fathers, and I thought it was so comical to see Tom Everett Scott and an MTV show and then to see him in this Oscar probably nominated movie and I was thinking about he's one of those, Like I'm happy that he is one of those white men in Hollywood. It started as a leading man and that thing you do and has now been relegated to what most women in the industry hours, or like he appears in like a

private practice episode. You know, he didn't go on to have a leading role. He's just like I do cameos on shows, right, right, Yeah, that's that's more common. I'm feeling like something I said before I was I'm clear, and I just want to clarify I just because this is like getting to me. I just want us to Hey, it's important to have a sense of humor about yourself. If you're in the public eye and you don't have

a sense of about yourself, I have no time. It's the thing like Rupulse's, you know, like watching Wizard of Oz, like the world is fake and once she realized, like the world is a joke, then you can live in it easier. Butcher whatever, that's the heart of it and an important thing to remember. Yeah, yeah, you have to have a sense of fear about it all because it's all sucked up. I agree, and that's why I like emistone I like, can I tell you why I like Ema Stone today today? Because he has a he has

a new reason every single day. He has an Emi Stone word of the day calendar. This is why when people come from Amiston, I'm like, yeah, but she's actually cool. So basically, you know how like there's the movement of like ask her more on the red carpet, but the dresses so Ryan Seacrest, I guess the other day, asked emistone, tell me about your dress, and Emi Stone goes, well, okay, it's pink and has stars on it, and I thought that was funny. And then she didn't go she didn't

say anyone anything more about it. I'm sure she seems like a great person. It's just mat and I saw women yesterday. And now the more I think about it, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, it sucks that Emma is going to get the Oscar and someone like a Nette Benning who has never been awarded, has never never been given an Oscar. But that's not

Emma Stone. It's not her fault. But it's also I know, well, I think that it's the fault of awards, you know, like there's so many different movies this there's many different types of movies this season. To like compare them next to each other is almost impossible because there it's like I thought Moonlight should have won Directing um for at the Golden Globes, But that doesn't mean I don't think

Lolland was directed poorly. They're They're completely two different movies to me, so to like compare them to each other. I get why we have like the Oscar system that we have because it's exciting for people to watch and see who wins, and but can I tell you what I think would be like the best way to do it is to like say, Okay, we're going to have the Oscars every everyone from all the movies are going

to be invited, Like we're going to invite everyone. It's going to be a celebration of film, and no one knows what's going to happen at the Oscars. And then throughout the show, there's like five different points where they give out like an award for a special achievement, and that way there's no competition, there's no best Actress, no one has to feel bad because they were worse. It's

no one even knows that they're nominated. You just get invited to the show, you show up, and then it's like throughout the show there's not even any qualifications for what's going to be given out. It's like, these were the five achievements that we feel deserved this award. So then it's like, if you want to give a net Banning an award, she gets one and emastone could get

one to you know what I mean, socialist. I just feel like, who needs participation trophy millennial conversation because you know what, snowflake Tommy Lauren is my virgin Mary Dary Tommy Lauren who today said, why aren't we praising the white people who helped end slavery? Okay, let's keep going. I don't know because I think about that every day and I'm like, the white people don't. Actually, no, we like talk about, uh, fucking what's his face? John Brown

all the fucking time, but it was he white. I don't know. She's a fucking snowflake talk about eating attention. Can't with her. She's from my hometown and son, no, no, she's from technically somewhere else, but she lives in Dallas and that's where they film the place famously from Texas. I don't know. I just feel like it's it's bullshit, the competition thing, because at the root of it is like a needing to be the best, and like that

makes other people feel bad. Like I don't know, I think we should do away with the whole with the whole thing. I don't necessarily think it's like better when they have like ten nominees for Best Picture, because it's silly not all those. Because it also like sometimes an animated movie gets put in there and you're like this, these movies are so different. To compare them to each other and to choose which one is better is insane.

That being said, I love Awards shows. I mean every time I print out my ballot, I pick who's going to win printed. So let's talk about fill it out. Let's talk about what. So you've seen La La Land. Yes, I've seen La La Land. You like it very much? I did like it? Yeah? Me? And would you would you vote for it for Best Picture? Um? What else? I don't know what else is gonna have you seen? Yes? I loved min Light. Okay, So, and you've seen Manchester by the say, I have not seen Manchester by the

same man is it depressing. Well, that's what I hear, and I don't. I don't like Casey Affleck that much, and I know who does. I mean, I think many people, that's so instant. I think many brooding men love Casey Affleck and would Harold that is an amazing performance, and probably it is. I just haven't seen it, and I don't care to you, but I probably will at some point because I like seeing all the movies that are nominated.

You know, I don't know, I feel I agree with I did see it, and it's just shocking to me that like he's one of everything, because to me, that must mean like there just might not be a lot of excellence out there besides him, because while I thought it was good, it wasn't this like, you know, the way I feel about Oscars is like you should give something an Oscar if like the performer truly elevated the material and did something that almost no one else could do.

That's when I feel like something that deserves an Oscar. And I didn't see that with that performance. I don't know. Well that the my castable theory I put up on Facebook Devil Wars product the most welcome explain explain this, I agree. Now, well, yeah, explain it. I Well, now, people were bringing other movies to my attention, and I am taking that into consideration. But what my criteria was, if any other person did this, would the movie work

or would the movie be as good? And I do not think Devil Wors product would be as good if specifically Meryl Streep and Stanley Tucci were not in it, and and Emily Blent is on my list. But if you have to narrow down to two, I think Meryl and Tucci really make that film those performances, and if they were other people in those roles, it wouldn't work. I feel like with Tucci, like Alan what's his face? Could have been great? Alan commings would have been perfect.

I was gonna say Alan Tudek or Al yeah, all. I feel like a lot of people could have done the Tucci role. I disagree with you there, However, I think I think Meryl Streep it's very hard to do, very hard to come down to Meryl and Emily Blunt for me in that movie, and that's fair. Emily Blunt is also on my list. And I think that Meryl Streep was nominated for the Oscar for that movie the

same year as Helen Mirren one for the Queen. I'm almost positive thing with Queen Elizabeth is like Oscar and like a chunky necklace and like pants and like God bless her and like a fucking like surgical scrubs. Like she did not give a shed. She was just there to have a good time. She was an extra longer's anatomy.

I just think we need to be thinking just because someone cries a lot or like does this like I guess, like dramatic heavy lifting thing, you gotta think, like, okay, but could any trained actor or actress have done this?

And probably for many of these performances that win an Oscar, the answer is probably yes, But you're not thinking about like the kinds of choice is Meryl had to make to create that character of Miranda Priestley for herself, despite it being very well drawn in the novel and the screenplay, Like that is true comedic excellence, Like creating that character, that's true amazing film acting. And she has so many

important lines in that film that she delivers under her breath. Yeah, and that's a choice, you know, and another actor would like do the actor things like I'm looking in the eyes and I'm delivering this sincere like heartshly, but she's just like I'm walking around and like busy, I'm doing it under my breath. Blah blah blah. My favorite line that she delivers under her breath in that movie is and if you don't have that Harry Potter book coming back?

And then she she's like looking down and then does like a slight cock of the head at her death. Like imagine getting the script for devil Worth product and you're the actress. How many actors does that go in an audition for that say that's all? Like that's all you know what I mean? No one does Yes, nobody does it except Meryl Or, which makes the character lived in not a caricature. Or when she sees the steak

and she goes, what is this? I didn't I don't want this, and then she Ann Hathaway throws a plate of states so dramatic throat and Hathaway is great that she is really good. Yes plate breaks in the zo I will never forget just steak being my favorite. One of my favorite lines besides the whole cerulean mom yea, My favorite is um yes by all means move at a glacial pace that you know how that throws me.

I love or florals for spring groundbreaking And Emily Blunt one of her most amazing lines is just one stomach flew away from my goal weight. I mean that's good. That's just a well written line. I love my job. I love my job. Or when she she's when when Anne Hathawayne needs to go into the next room and and it cuts the Meryl Emily Blunt and she just

goes with her hand. Like my favorite is when she like she's at her dust typing and she sees Andy the hand and hathway character's like, what have you been some hideous skirt conventions? And then she laughs. I love it. Can I tell you amazing amazing performances and you know what a noo they're talking about it. Yeah, maybe one of the best cast movies, like at least of the past twenty years. Yea, I will say, also mean girls, I think that a performance that should have been nominated

for an Oscar is Rachel. Rachel. Of course, that, like Gretchen was incredible and it's a shame that that girl isn't a huge star. And at least I think she had the Curse of being a child Star Party five. I think that that monologue, the Caesar monologue is so good. And also Michael Hoops and you do that for your high school audition I wish I had. But also Rachel McAdams and mean Girls, like the character of Regina, like

that defined high school bitches. Yes, and then another role like any other actress auditioning for that would have read so like too literally or two on the nose, and she just mutters things under her breath and it's perfect and amazing. I can't remember what years they came out, but your first introduction to Rachel McAdams is The Notebook, and then all of a sudden you see this bitch and mean Girls and you're like, okay, I believe came

out and they believe The Notebook came out after Mean Girls. Okay, Well, my first introduction within several months of each other, and they were at the same time, and you're like, Okay, this girl is a star. It is a shame to me that Rachel McAdams it's not a star, because I love her performance in the problematic movie The Family Stone. I think she's so good in that, and just she's so good at mean girls. She's so good in the notebook, Matt, Matt and I have a favorite line from the Family Style.

Let's hear it. Sarah Jessica Parker goes, look, I don't care if you like me or not. Rachel McAdams goes, of course you do, of course you do. My first six to reach like Adams was that Rob Schneider movie The Hot Chick. Yeah, that was she That was her first. But she was not great enough. But she did like a perfectly acceptable job, and she had to like play, she committed to, committed to, like the Freaky Friday Rob

Shiner thing. I feel like we were all captive to Rob Schneider's career and that everyone thought we had to see movies that Rob Schneider made and nobody wanted to. But we all saw, and we all saw The Hot Chick and Steake No I said, mistake. Oh man, you got me all excited. Yeah. When they make that joke about that like overweight woman, how she can't press the buttons on her phone, it's so funny making fun of a person with turetts waited, just like the baseball game. Yes,

but there was also a girl with marka lips. Yeah, fell asleep in her soup, and then he had to tie her pony need tail to the banister so she didn't like drown in her own soup. Oh god, that was comedy then, Oh my god. And we all watched those movies as high school as you are, just a slave to what's in the movie theater on weekends. We're all pretty much the same age. Do you remember when there was like horror movies were like back, Yes, like House of Wax with Chad Michael Murray and Paris Hilton.

When Paris Hilton cousins Skeeter the Puppet, No, the cousin. What what are you talking about? Because Cousin Skeeter was a show in Nickelodeon about a puppet the boy in it, not the puppet, the boy. Well, the boy is not cousin Skeeter the puppet. Pretty funny to think about Paris Hilton puppet though, right Probably I would love to see Paris Hilton guests on the Muppet Babies. Yeah, I am I gonna there. Look at that little baby animal. Oh my sorry, it's low hanging food to make front of

Paris Hilton. Not really, she's deejaying and the Biza right now making ten k off ten minutes of bullshing tump. She did, she she did absolutely. Do you know I think she um like there was some report, I mean, might have been fake news, but I I believe that if some fucking asshole in like Middle America believes anything, then I'll believe anything. Are you a horror movie person, bo, No, I don't care for him, and you are not a horrormone because they scare you so scared movie I like,

I'll tell you this about myself. I loved going to a horror movie with a group of friends, maybe there's some guys there, and acting real scared when I was not. That was me in such a high school. I even remember in college one time being so drunk and on the bus back there was we went to Dirty six and you had to take the bus is what it was called, back to campus and being on the bus and the lights kept going out on the bus and

I was making out with this guy. I was sitting on his lap, and every time the lights went out, I would be like, I'm scared of the dark, Like are you I was like, are you serious? And I was like, yeah, it's this weird thing about me. I was scared. It's the thing with only me. I get really scared when it started, really scared of the dark. And I need someone to put their hands on my shoulder. Um yeah, that's what I did. I all up and down his body. Do you guys? Did you guys go

see Saw in the movie theater? Now I haven't seen the movies, I will say, Okay, this first Saw is really good and this is like what got my friends onto horror movies, and inside I was like, fuck, this has to be every weekend now because once that movie came out, all of a sudden, horror movie, horror movie The Grudge came out. Oh you know what I fucking hated was the remake of The Hills Have Eyes, where they fucking like rape from from from right, that's rape

by a mutant and it's horrible. The father gets impaled on a tree and burned a lot, like it's just like it's just tortured porn, but like, un it's so bad. Like I hate horror movies. You know what, It's not that I don't care for him, it's I really dislike them, but not in the same way that Matt dislikes them. Is that like it's it's like, I just don't like um, you know, they offend you, they offend me. Becau's like, why am I watching that? I hate violence? I don't

I don't like it. I don't respond to it. Yeah, I mean that's fair. I don't like horror movies now. They're just not interesting to me. If you can make a really interesting horror movie, I'll probably be into it. But I'm not going to go and see a horror movie right. Oh my god. My worst date ever, um was, let's hear was a few years ago and has something to do with culture. It has something to do with

horror movies, which are unfortunately part of culture. I'm just gonna keep you on I just want to keep you guys on track. Okay, police, Okay, So anyway, first day where my siren's earlier first date with this guy was the week of Hurricane Sandy. And we're walking down Eastern Parkway, uh down like a ravaged waste land of brook and it was kind of romantic. So how many pictures did you guys take next to like a lamp pole that was a little trees, trees that were just like completely yeah,

just destroyed don't worry. We're okay. He told me his name was like fucking Patrick or something, and I was like great. And then the second was it something different than that? Okay, so then so then we So then was a great first we we just took a walk, we kissed. That was that. And then like about a month later, uh, we go on our second date and then he wants to take me to see this movie, the Collective or The Collection or something. It's the same

people who made the produce the Saw movies. It's some bullshit like paper thin like it because it has no depth to it at all, bullshit horror movie. And within twenty minutes I was like, I don't want to watch this, and we left the theater and he was like he was very nice and saying, oh yeah, let's not watched this. But it was his idea to go take me there. And then he just like in a tense moment, he was like, oh yeah, by the way, my name is Lamar.

And I was like, okay, well what we're done? What wait? Wait? Why did he explain why he lied? Because he was because he was afraid of like the Internet, and he was afraid of like people finding out who he like, I don't know. So once you were like I don't like this movie, he was like, I think this is over, so I need to be you don't like this horror movie, so I'm going to be real with you. My name

is might have done that, might have been it. I just truly to this day don't understand like what was going through his head to a like maybe he thought like and be lie like on the first on the first date, first path. Anyway, maybe he thought you were so real, like so real that you couldn't even get through this fake as movie that he was like, I can't be I can't be faked with this person who's so genuinoe. That's probably what he thought. That's definitely what

he thought. Yeah, I've I am trying to think of a movie. I've walked out of Oh Bone, and I walked out of Guardianto the Galaxy for during it, I fell asleep during it. I went back to watch it again, not in the theater. Well, the thing about Guardianto the Galaxy is it's not good and if you think it's good, you're wrong. Come for us, come from can say something? A monster calls this new Felicity Jones movie who did not have a great run of it this past weekend.

But that Monster Calls movie, that's Group, that Big Tree Man that Liam Neeson is voicing, It just looks exactly like Group. And I'm like, how are you going to make this movie? And we're not going to compare it to you know, Big Tree Things are having a moment right now. Groups the guy from Stranger Things, Guy from Stranger Things. But I didn't finish Stranger Things. The Red Redwoods, um come from me. I didn't really like Stranger Things Come from me. Didn't finish the series. I know you

didn't watch because you thought it was too scary. Man, tell me explain. I don't know not one. Oh, I love like you say, why Nona like she's win on a Judd when she's Winona right, went on a Winona? Is that? Do you think she'd correct me? That's what? What's a matter to me? Would Winona correct with a big hobo bag and a card again holding a coffee? Yeah, she'd be like it's Winona, actually alright ready, who's the better? Winona went on a Judd? I went on a ride

and I got no contest writer. Wow, interesting, I bet all the trump voters would disagree, Well, who's the better Judd win on a Judd or Ashley Judd? Because I have my answer lucked and loaded. Um, I would say, based on what you've said so far, because of the popularity of all those Ashley Judd movies that were like thrillers around the time when you were a team. Probably, actually I didn't ask for you to guess, and then you are corrected, as Judd would have been a senator

Ashley Judd had she won her Senate race. And I think Virginia. I want to say, wait, I did not know that. I didn't know that either, and I was like for her and probably not, but it was like it was right after Clay Ake and ran for Senate in North Carolina. And do you think clay An running first Senate is the reason Trump is president? I mean, oh, you thought he was, like, well, he's doing it, so

why not. I feel like Franken is the reason. Or Gary Coleman on Twart Seneger, What what what office did Gary Coleman when everyone was running for governor of California? He didn't. I'm sure. I'm sure. Arnold Schwarzenegger has a lot to do with the Trump probably probably how do you guys feel about Alaska posing for she was on an Apprentice Alaska thunder funk? I just saw pick I didn't,

I haven't. I just saw her tweet something of like, I post on this thing for posing on a motorcycle ad for Apprentice NBC hashtag team Carson because Carson Cresley's Oh my god, wow. I don't know. I really don't know what to think about the whole Apprentice thing right now, because it's weird. Donald Trump was tweeting about, well, the fucking ratings tanked with Arnold swartzenigger that sucks. And then Katie Kirk mentioned, which I thought was a good point,

isn't he the executive producer of that show still? And why is he talking his own show that little twitter fight with Arnold? I feel like because Arnold tweeted back, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, Arnold tweeted back like, well, I like news. He was like, I I hope you, I hope you serve our country. Well, you know what, Trump was like, you know what, We're gonna have a little Twitter few because the people fucking love it. And I was watching Biden on the view the other day,

and um one of them asked him. He had the whole episode they had Biden on, and they asked him like, why do you think because his point was like, you know, no one ever heard Hillary's plans. It was all she was always on the defensive. It was this whatever. And they were like, what went wrong? Why didn't we ever get to hear Hillary? Why didn't we ever hear about her plans for like everyone getting free college, etcetera, etcetera. And he was like, look, you got the media and

they have two options. They're gonna report on Hillary's plans for everyone to get free college, or they're gonna report on Donald Trump says grabbed him by the pussy. You can only really put all your resources on one. Which one are you gonna pick? You pick the fucking Donald Trump grab him by the pussy thing. And so you couldn't ever hear the positive aspects of what Hillary had because it was so inundated with this Trump nonsense whatever

it was. And so really she never actually stood a chance because this is the first election we've ever had which was in the age of social media where you can just fucking totally flood everyone's feeds with this stuff, and all you're ever talking about is Trump, and when you're the star of the election, I'm not surprised he did win at the end, because what's the what was the big who was the big star of this election?

Donald Trump? Like he wasn't He was all over the news and was never not for the past two years, He's never not been in the new So I guess it kind of makes sense that you couldn't get a word in edgewise. And this is this just goes to show you that Matt Rogers still gets a lot of his really truly deep, truly deep political analysis from the view, which is great. Okay, guys, loves of you. Guys, we were running out of time. Let's move on to I don't think so gosh, wow, that's insane, sad. I don't

know if my episode is worth the hype. I'm just gonna say, no, it's worth it's worth the hype. What is what's going on? I don't know. I feel like if we haven't come up with any catchphrases in't the show. You know, we haven't come up with clinch taken down. Here we go. So now this podcast is becoming very self aware and I honestly, I would. I would throw a bone into the wolves right now and I'd say, how's are you? That's are what's are you start this

show talking about catchphrase? Stocking up on all of our catchphrases. You self indulged. Piece of ship is what I posted last, and you maybe save this for and I don't think so. I don't know, I have my I don't think so, honey. And for the first time ever, I prepared it. Oh yeah, okay, I'll go after I don't think so. I I know who I didn't know what to do for. I don't think so. Okay, okay, chased Christie, do you do you

truly think that this is not worth the hype? I think it's been so worth I don't know what I mean. I was telling matth that I feel like the only hype was Matt and Henry and you guys know, I don't know. Listen, the thing is, Henry is not my boyfriend. Christie. You haven't met a celebrity in the past week. Have I have I met a celebrity? You haven't met a celebrity in the past week that you can talk about?

Oh no, I mean, well, like Michelle Obama well and just to hear Henry speaking a joy a lovely, lovely boy. Um well, I did wait, hold on, I do want to talk about the Oscar is one more again? Yeah? One more gain? Yeah again? So you're a big fan of it, and what and and what do you think is the movie? Is the best movie of the year? Go ahead, talk about it? Go ahead, talk of about it? She can I'm listening, okay, Christie. I love so many

different movies for so many different reasons. But what's the best, because one of them has to be the best. What's the what's the movie that made me feel the most? In the two movies that made me feel the most while watching them, like have actual emotional reactions to I'll say three were Moonlight. I felt anxious during the whole film, which I thought was very good. Lola Land I was just like mesmerized the whole time. Sometimes I was a

little bored. I will say that that we had some slow moments and then pop Star like last I laughed my goddamn ass off. So it's about emotional reactions that I had in the theater. I would say those from my top three. I also loved The Lobster and the green Room made me very scared. Green Room made me very scared. It was that's I don't know, I've never heard of this movie green Room. Um, it had Anton yell Can I think it's his name passed away a

month after the film like got released. That was really sad, really such a freak accident. Yeah, he's a very good actor. It also had that actress who I think has the most ridiculous name and I don't know why we don't make fun of her more for it. Image and Poots come, Image and Poots, and she's really giving a vibe of an image and Poods is like if we were to write a character that's this girl has an act just we it's a character name. It's not a real person.

It's not neither is image and heap. Can we quote our favorite line from pop star? Yes, Um, that's an amazing name. Depth No Deborabora is that short for something? I think it's not Debora, it's Deborah is that short short for something? I think Debra in the theater. That movie also the whole the whole number of the I'm gonna like we felt that was good. The best part of it to me was the girl dancing the whole time,

just the way she was amazing. It was amazing. I thought that movie was sucking that great ye and like, honestly, to me, better screenplay than Land. Well, if you want, I'll talk all the duda about. That's about pop Star And I need to go back and watch again because

I've only seen it once in the theater. Is that I think it's a perfect example of a comedy movie not getting bogged down in plot, which I think is a problem with modern comedy movies is that they feel like there are a slave to this three act structure of like setting something up and then goes dad goes down and they have to fix at the end, which

Pop Star does do. But most of the fun parts that movie is it like going off in these tangents that feel like sketches within a movie, but you're following the same character. That's like a very now that the comedies that would have been popular over the past ten fifteen years, or like the ataw comedies. I feel like, you know, it's a common theme in those movies that act the act three sucks like really slow, right, And

I get the act two sucks. The two suck because it's just the longer stretch of the movie where it's like it's the middle and you know, not that much. I feel myself sometimes wanting to be like, oh, I want to watch that movie, and then realize I only want to watch the first half of it, and I will turn a movie off for halfwards, Like the things I remember loving about this movie are already done, so

I'm not going to finish it. I love that when those movies get even more fucking crazy in the third act, Like, you know, movie is really good, pineapple express it once. I like it. The movie gets so fucking insane in the third act, and like to me, that's like that's why they have like the warehouse fight, right, and like it just keeps getting more insane, and I feel like that's how you heighten. Like I mean, for example, like

Knocked Up, which I think is so good. It's so good like Pent of the Way, and then it just it fucking just really slows down there. I saw Knocked Up with friends from church, and the kids sitting next to me was he had been homeschooled for most of his life, but had integrated into our high school. Um so still kind of a homeschool kid. He was a part of our church. He sat next to me and the whole time he shook his head and put his

head in his hands, like in a disapproving way. Um, And I was like very much laughing, you know, I was doing that thing called laughing, and he was judging at the entire time. Yeah, everything, everything, just everything. What would twelve thirteen year old Chrissy Shafer to think of the last cultures? Thus she I think she would be like, Um, finally there's like a voice to me. Um, you guys are holding each other. Twelve year old loved culture, wanted more.

I didn't have that many pop culture obs as friends. She loved the gays. Yes, yes, And here's the deal is that like Ryan movie was super formative for me. Show popular And this is a longer conversation for a longer podcast. But I went to a very Baptist school where the head pastor has a very anti gay policy and put up a terrible sign on the church for the sermon the year after I graduated from high school

called y gay is not okay. And he's the he's the Christian correspondent on Fox News Now and he's a huge Trump supporter. He's he's terrible, and I'm sorry if anyone from my high school is listening to this, but I think he is terrible and I think he's a horrible person. And from then on I was like, I think I've cut ties with my high school. Um, you know, you know what. I hope that they are listening. I hope everyone from your high school was a last cultures.

There are people from my high school now we were like cool and whatnot and have evolved from We were certainly brainwashed in high school. In my opinion, I used to think the devil was inside me. But again, this is a longer conversation forward. This is the thing to

didn't think to bring it back to RuPaul. It's like I kind of if I were to see that today and see the sign that says why gay is now okay, Like I would just laugh because it's just now, it's not even a fence now, because because you because you broke away from the matrix and you were like, oh this is just very comical, but of course it's hurting someone. But still anyway, well, the world is terrifying certain parts of it, Yeah, I mean all of it, but like

certain parts of it where people haven't evolved. Yeah, and with that, that's a perfect segue into at least my I don't think honey, I will go first now. I don't think so, honey. For those of you listening at home is your favorite segment, I mean it is the touchstone of last cultures test. We put woman in on the clock. We really against something and culture that's grinding our gears. It's getting us. We get into all the

ticks and tanks. All we gotta itch our skin raw, We gotta you know, shed the bad skin like a snake does, and crawl out of our issues with cultural Here we go. I just talked, Okay, Matt Rodgers, I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. South Brooklyn, you're the most overrated fucking part of New York. Bitch, I don't think so. If I want to go to you, it takes me an hour and a goddamn half. The

subways inside of you are fucking shit. If I ever see the R train again, I'll spit on it as it comes in. I don't care who's on. I don't care if the conductor will come from me. Go ahead, come from me. You live in South Brooklyn. I don't think so, honey. By Ridge, I don't think so, honey. If I want to go to a theme park, I'm not going to Coney Island. I will go to sixth Great Adventure of the Port Authority at Midtown, which at

least lives up to its name. At least you're getting there and you know it's going to be a little bit of a challenge, and you're fine with it because at least there's good things about it. There's nothing good about South Brooklyn. If I want to go to South Brooklyn and drinking mimosa, it's forty eight dollars, bitch. I don't think so, honey. I don't think about I don't care about you park slow moms and dads looking all hot with your kids. You don't care about them their accessories.

To you, it's all about the image with you. It's all about the aesthetics. I've been to North Brooklyn. I loved it. The subway acts was amazing. I feel sorry for you guys. That's gonna shut down. I live on the Upper east Side now spound Trial and more like it, and I'm I'm gagging. I don't think so, honey. South Brooklyn. Okay, you're killing your kids? Are accessory? Very upsetting. What if you have a what if all of your listeners are from Bay Ridge? If everything move out, listen, you have

the ability to get out. Okay, I'm sorry talking about it like it's sucking scientology, it is, it's cult. What about what about the heavy Chinese immigrant population in Bay Ridge? What do you have to say to What do you have to say to them? What do you have to say to them? I have to say to them that it sucks that they live in such a shitty place. I have to say to them, it's it sucks that they're commuting on the R Y. It's the lamb. The subways forgot. It's the lamb. The subways forgot. I work

in Red Hook, Brooklyn. There is literally I'm done, I'm done making excuses for it. There is hard to get around in North Brooklyn, and you're saying that train access is at in South No, honey, I don't know if you've ever heard of this. It's called the G and it's also called the J. It's also called the Z and yeah, and it's also called the L, which is nailing it. No, it's I lived off the L when I was staying with Sudi, who housed me when I

had no home. She housed me and Henry and we lived off the L. And let me tell you something, I got my life. Okay, three weeks. You're not living there long term. I live off the six now. And it's a joy every day for me now. Because no, because it's not a joy because you know what, the six and the four and the five are narrow trains. They're not wide. You know, it's a wide train. The R, at the Q, the W, the N. Is this your I don't think so. If you have so much to say,

this is this is Bowens. I don't think this is gonna end. His time starts now. I don't think so, Honey, Matt fucking Rogers, I don't think I am. I am doing so much work day and day out trying to promote this goddamn podcast I write. I wrote a post at two am last night saying, hey, if you like the Last Cultures podcast, leave us a rating or a review on iTunes. It would really just be a signal boost for us. And Honey, I have never seen you

do this. I have I seen you ever make make one piece of promotion, Make a poster, make a quote poster, make design the goddamn logo for this podcast. No, bitch, no, you haven't. Bitch, I am. I am pull my heart, I am pouring my You do not take up my space in my I don't think so, honey, Bitch, I don't think so, honey. Matt Rodgers for nodding his head of me with contempt in his eyes as I tell him what is what with this? I give comedic value. I come up with. I give comedic value. What are

you talking about? I'm the one who's who always steers the conversation back to where it should go. I am. I'm Joe. Kim Booster has said, Matt Rodgers is the bull in the china, and I am the shop owner trying to assemble everything back together. Bitch, I didn't know you said that, bitch. I am. I am the north Star, and that's that's. I think that you are a lost young child. I think that you a lost young child. And never forget that you respect your elders. And I'm

older than you. Can I please do my yes, absolutely, but this is this is not resolved. But we will. I guess we'll have to We'll have to just resolve this on the next episode. This episode, the Christie shock Over, an episode of Last Colt ended in conflict. Thank you, that's okay, all right, here we go Christie Shockolford, Last Cultures as time starts now. I don't think so, honey, Matt fucking Rockers, you do not interrupted, fucking I don't

think so, honey. You got one minute I'm interrupted to talk. You. Let bow And speak. I am whatever the kid's name is. He is Britney Spears. Let Bowen speak. Leave and that's why that's why I run around here. Chris Crocker, I'm messing up the levels. I am sorry, Alex, but you do not talk during somebody else's I don't think so, honey. I am not even a host of this podcast. I am a devoted listener. Did I could? Did I get to talk when? I don't think so, honey, Bowen did?

I don't think so, honey. Austin, No, because it wasn't in the room and I wouldn't up because it's his don't think so, honey. And I cannot believe you you would ship. You would ship on your own I don't think you would ship on your podcast. Hold down your pants. You're taking a ship on your podcast. You are the reason that people you know, like like lose their dreams because they they do not keep the site of what was the goal. You are changing the goal. You are

actively changing it. You are you are the crack in the pipe that is flooding the house. Minute. Wow. So Chris, however, has just said you are the reason dreams die. To me, I think if you're the reason people don't get their dreams, she looked at me and said that it's because of you. You're the cracking the pipe. I have to tell you something. Flooding the house, I've never flooding the house that God built. I've never felt more joy than when you didn't know

Chris Crocker's name. Just now and I could say it, and I could look you as you came from me, and I could say, Chris, careful what you wish for luck, Chris Crocker. Chris Christie was worried about this episode not being not living up to the hype. Honey, this is incendiary and said this episode true conflict coming out. I

will have a discussion with you. We will when I look at Will, we will discuss bitch Christie and I will bounce back from this because we have to work together on a bus called the Ride and we have to turn it on. And do you not care when we talk about Selena Gomez and you and I we have a we have a personal conflict. Now we have a conflict and we will resolve or not. Let's see. Let's see. You should get a therapist and for the next episode, Yes, is this the end of Last Cultures Us?

Tune in next time to find out. Thanks to Christie Shockleford. What wonderful? What days I've got to show this Thursday. Don't know if the episode is going to be out by then, that is okay. February six, though, is my final show. Diane and I want to say I have seen Diane Shangla presents Not Try, Not Dry Yet two times and it's so good and you should see it because it's truly great character work, it's smart, it's really good writing, it's a great performance. You should see it. Um.

I second that I saw just this past Friday. Loved it. I think the ending. I'm not going to spoil it for anybody, but the ending is it's so funny and also just one more thing, um, Bone and i's last show of paper that's amazing. Earth is also this Friday. Um, come because it's gonna be the last time you can see it, you guys, and I'm gonna be there good and uh, it's really good and we're so proud of it and it's been such a nice, good, long, happy

run at UCB. And also please come out to Henry Koperski is a little night music on a well at eleven thirty pm at UCB East. That will be so fun. Christie Shachiffer, thank you so much for being a bye bye forever. This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett Bohm. For more podcasts, please visit Forever Dog Productions dot com. Dog h

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