"Can We Talk About Nicolette?" (w/ Pat Regan)

that yours was the more significant vacation. Bone was just in China, which is a country in Asia, which is a country in Asia, is literally on the other side of the world. It's a perfect twelve hour time difference. I cannot stress enough that you cannot. Uh, it's you cannot have more of a time difference than twelve hours. You can't have more of a time difference than that, honey. And you know I was in Orlando, where the time difference is the same, but the difference you have a

lot more fun there than you do here. So yeah, I was for a second I thought you were going to say that you have a lot more fun there than you do in China, which probably is still true. Well, probably I would say the primary difference between Orlando and New York City, which is where we live and where we're recording this from, is that you have more fun in Orlando and there's like more sound life for a larger portion of the time of the day. Yeah, I

would say those two things. Orlando being a little bit closer to the equator um than New York City happens to be. However, they do share a hemisphere, which we can't say about China, which again is an Asian country. This is all true, it's all true. We do share northern hemisphere with China. Absolutely never said that. I just want to say that. I never said we didn't in the same direction. Absolutely never said that, never claimed that we were in the same hemisphere. Just to play the tape.

Roll the tape, Okay, yeah, let's play. Let's literally play back the day we don't have the tape. Guys, we have such a special guest. Laugh a lot because of him. We're already that's true, that's true. We're laughing so much because of him. Matt. Let's le's stop the credit time. Yeah, let's let stop his credit um. Well, First, his mom has a friend who once met Colin Quinn on the beach and told him that he did comedy. Another credit

of his is that is sweet. Sorry. Another credit of his is that a Swedish woman once, oh my god, this is so funny. A Swedish woman once told our guests that he would do well in Europe. He has a teen cousin who has a best that was featured in an episode of Scream Queens by Ryan Murphy. Yes. Also, he was unceremoniously blacklisted from the third installment of My show Live on Broadcay. He's currently on a hiatus from UCBS Lloyd Night. Everyone give it up for Pat Rigue.

We also forgot from mentioned that he is the start of the lost episode of Last Culture. You may remember from Instagram we recorded an episode with Pat months and months and months ago. Really first he was a baby podcasts Oh my god, yeah, our first guy, first two time guests, and now your first two days. I guess what happened was for our listeners who weren't there, Um there was a technical glutch. It wasn't and it was

a good episode. I think it was. Was it? How did the stack up compared to episodes that we have been able to learn back to it right. I know, my memories of it are very fond. We were getting our sea legs as a podcasters total and um, but you were such a phenomenal, resplendent guest to have on because the repartee was great, it was quick, and I want to say right now that I already said off, but I want to say on are that I'm on

an time job right now. That really frazzles my brain and I don't even know I'm going to be able to talk about culture that much, but I'm gonna do my best I can. That's okay because most of the time when we record this, were very tired and saying how tired we are. And I actually think it helps us get more loose. It's like when you wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is you write you free right, Because whenever I wake up, I journal for three hours and I turned all my

screens off and go back to bed. That's my day. Wait, hold on, tangent. This reminds me of a really good joke and a Christie Shackleford character. I appreciate your listener, and I want to shout out, Actually I'm gonna shout out this. This character, it's your busy friend Kate. And this is also in Christie's one woman show Diane shangri La presents Not Dry Yet, which you should see running at U C B Chelsea. And also, I want to say I'm now going to perform a line from it

which is a spoiler, but I'm sorry. Share character says she's like the busiest person ever, and she says, here's a typical day for me. I wake up at in the morning, I roll over check my phone. All of a sudden it's to fifteen in the afternoon, which is very true to life. I mean very very frequently. I find myself not getting out of bed until well into the afternoon. Do you guys turn your screens off an hour before bedtime? And I won't. I never will. There's

a new lifestyle trend where you do. It's a it's a tech free bedroom. Have you heard of this? No? I had a lot of like a lot of young mothers are doing this in my office. Um, no tech in the bed, tech in the bed. It could never just no phones. It's a phone free, laptop free zone. So you know, who knows? Where do these mothers get the time? My own? Where do they get the discipline, you know what I mean with the you know vibrators. Sure, that's true, because we all know that mothers are getting

nuns that can totally rely on themselves. How's the kids doing nothing right? Well, now, Pat, I don't think it. I don't think it makes any difference that you're that you feel fried. That's how we got off, but we're still we're getting off to a great start to we'll talk about culture in the way that we know well, we'll do either you know, low touch or high touch.

We'll talk about culture as appropriate. You know. I just want to say what you're missing out on from the last episode is we did talk a lot about Pet's love of reality television and that was a bit that ended up being I think the theme of the episode. And you know what else we talked about last episode.

Then it made me realize it for myself, is that we talked about Lisa Couldrow and since then I identified as someone who Lisa Coudrow is my comedic icon's and I didn't I find that way before the episode, and then we talked about it, and I kind of found that in the episode, what is the Lisa Coudro vehicle of choice for you, Conion. That's actually one that no one ever really shouts out because it's and Vogue just say, you know, the Comeback Lately, which and also Friends obviously

Lisa Coudro famously most famous from Friends. I truly think that I make up a story that I tell people like it's true, but I think it's not true. I think I made this up, but that Lisa Coudrow was teaching at Groundlings and someone I say, someone I knew had a class and Lisa could supposed to be the teacher, and then and then they got there and she wasn't the teacher that I said, because she booked Friends. And I think that's not true. I think I made that up.

Somebody also made up to me one time. I think that Lusa Coudrow taught Kristen Wig at the Groundling specifically, I bet I told you that did she did teach I think like Will Ferrell and that that's true Coudrow taught Will Ferrell. I'll say this, I think when Michell Dreamnion is so good, I think it's I truly it's my thing that I'll watch when I am like in the worst mood, I want to give up on comedy and it's truly a joke a minute, like a joke in thirty seconds and they're all funny jokes and um

is so like effortlessly funny in it. It's like true, she's an inspiration for sure, that the fact that she was like a biology nager. I didn't know that around she didn't know that. And have you seen her commencement? I know almost nothing about her. I only have seen

and friends, and I like friends to this day. But I think that could if you watch it like it friends holds up, but you really realize that commediately, like Lisa truly liked everything, Like she has to get dumb just to like keep the matt Le blanc afloat, you know what I mean? For sure she was doing all the work. Um No, watch her vas commencement speech. It's really it's wonderful. Did you know two things? Did you know that Lisa Coudo improvised the monologue in Romeo Michelle's

high school union about how she created glue. Literally that's an improvised monologue because she gets really technical on a monologue. Ye, and there you go there she that's that is using your degree? Yes, right there? Her biology degree because you know this she made you go bio at Massa. Yeah, I actually okay. Um. Also, a second thing I have to say is Pat, you are growing your hair out. No, I'm not. What are you talking about my face? All hair? I for one, I really feel like this about my hair.

I feel like I invented my haircut and and my really good I think you should keeping this isn't always the problem running too with my hair. For one, right now, I didn't like shower this morning, so it's like natural oils like those are important to it. When I shampoo, it won't look like this anymore, absolutely identified with that. For to um, it won't stay this line like you grow, my hair always reach at one point where it looks just ripe. I can't freeze it into time critical. Yeah,

so that's something I struggle with. But I think that like also like because there's no kind of design behind my hair, like sometimes it does like look how I want to look, but I can't control when or where. So even as recently as like three hours ago, it looks shitty and now it looks like good, but I can't. Well that's the that's the crux. I'm sorry and that's not the right word. That's the double edged sword of having short hair is that it's hard to style and tame.

But we all know that Padrigan's minority is white gay with hair you can't take that's specifically, that's my diversity and identity politics also and I and as per my face, I think that I never have wanted facial hair. But I just like I'm used to speaking someone who doesn't have to shave every day or even every other day, and now in my late twenties, mortifyingly I have to um, I have to shave like every other day, and looks like I forget. I forget so hard, so hard. What

are you? My mass spots and I have and it's like throws. We all have Patrie, but sometimes it go scrows and find it's like, oh, you have a little scruff and looks good. But again I can't control the listeners at home. Pat has a little bit of scruff. I think it looks I think it looks really good. I think I think we need to take a photo of Pat right now and post it um. And also he should use it for his tender, but I'm not

on tend. I have a quick question before we get to tend pat what are we looking at right here? Like no shaving for the day. Yeah, I don't even remember when I shave last, probably probably, like honestly, probably like Sunday, so it's been like four or five days. This sounds good. This is a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. And then like for hair, like I just thought yesterday, I don't remember when I got my haircut last, which means normally when I have that remember, it means that

I'm thinking about it. And you see what I'm thinking about. It means like it's probably time because like you know, but what annoys me? And this will be fascinating for listeners at home who cannot see this, Like the sides here get too bushy, the burns that is frustrated gross to me, and I feel it makes my ears look gross. And all of a sudden, like I don't feel sexy. Well, no, that can't happen. We all have to do things to make ourselves feel good and sexy because we all deserve that.

Ladies at home, I wanted to repeat you to repeat this mantra at home, I deserve to feel sexy. Come on, girls, I deserve to feel sexy. Thank you. This is also a self help do you guys to do the thing when you find rules of culture? We did we pep in what are you saying? You're not a listener? No,

I actually haven't. I'm so bad with podcasts in gen but I do podcast This would be a podcast that was int we're at the top of your hypothetical one unquote when here's a quote from Dan Glazer once said that's similar to that God bless danglish one said this quote. People don't understand that when I say I almost made it through the first episode of your web series, that's a compliment, of course. Yeah, the fact that you clicked on on a web series that I've made is so huge.

People like, listen to this is huge right now, It's it's so self because us doing this is so self indulgent. It's mean to a degree. As I am not a podcast person, but I feel like I'm not sure how much people are listening to other people's podcasts, but I feel like it's rare to listen to people's podcasts except for this podcast. I feel like does get listened to.

I wouldn't know what podcast Tom that. I wouldn't know what one time my cousin's girlfriend's mom took my phone and downloaded a bunch of podcasts and like, talk to me about podcasts for like a family party. And I left that family party thinking I was going best in the podcasts, but I just didn't. People tell me listen to bitch Sash because I like the house. Yeah, you know, what's a podcast that I feel like a lot of gays listened to is one I would say, what's the team?

We all know what's the tame? We mentioned that a lot, but throwing shade and now it's going to be a television show. It's like a bitchy gay podcast about the celebrity and puff culture Brian Saffie and I don't know. The woman's name is a woman who's very funny or get her name. Whenever I listened to like something that where it's like a bitchy gay I always like, actually I might always get like always like it should be me,

and then I can't enjoy it. And that is the tragedy of the gay community, as we just can't support each other's time trying to support each other. We're not happy for it. Anyone that deserves it. That's Sam Smith, he should be lifted up. Absolutely first oscar, first gay oscar, first gay oscar of all time. And Pat had a famous line about that. What was your line? I say that he's just even to this day in my stand up as a dated pop culture reference, um that I

say that. People always get mad at Sam Smith for saying who was the first game out into an Oscar? But you didn't mean that literally, That's just something you get to say if you're gay. I love this joke. I'm if I ever want to ask her like I'm going to say that, like should I ever go to space? I don't care who's been to space? I'm the first game. And remember one Lance Bass was truly going to be in space? Oh right, what a gay thing to do?

You know, It's sokay. I cared more that Lady Gaga was supposed to be the first performer who's going to have a concert in space? What happened? What happen? She was supposed to be on the Virgin like space cruiser. In terms of what happened now, I think it's quite obviously that is logistically unfeasible. That's actually really I was so looking forward to that she's now she's I guess she wants to be more grounded. You know, I used to hate Lady Gaga initially. I feel like this is

her time of second life and entertainment. Is that true? I would I would say that she like a phoenix from the Ashes has risen. Thank you, that's name meant by that, And and I used to in her first genervation like she annoyed me. But I think I might have been straight even then, so like maybe now like things I like to. Did you know that when Rosie was when it was Rosey versus Donald, that was on

Donald's side, Oh my god, I was nineteen. I mean so what my mom used to call roso Donald quote too opinionated, and so I know that's how I felt. And or the versus Elizabeth, I was on Elizabeth's side. But but Elizabeth, I liked her from Survivor. I know when she was Elizabeth Felarski. But we can talk about this, maybe we will write. I will say that I don't begrudge you have a Donald fandom because I loved I've heard. Yeah,

I was just nineteen and down. I thought like Rosie was like obnoxious and that's like what I subscribed to. And also was he going to say, oh, but that's I think why he didn't like Lady Gaga to It's like, remember there was always like a new story where she would like be at a Mets game and she'd like rip her shirt off for no reason and I'd like and nothing is enough, or like she would take someone's seat?

Did she take Seinfeld seat? Once? I think, like I think in his Yankees box, I think yeah, yeah, yeah, and then she ripped her shirt off, adding that part yeah, I don't know, but she turned herself into a plane. She turned herself into a dress. I was like, I'm so happy to be the first plane woman. I was like it was during like art pop promm and like she flew around. I want to be the first game out to be a plane woman. So wait, what else

was gonna say? Oh? Also, I wanted to use this to like our conversation from this and I knew you had to talk about because because we're talking about Lance Bass. I don't want to about gay Batch because anyone watching gay Bag and I caught an episode the other night and I think it's truly bad. Tell you what episode I saw, and I try to clarified to listeners by gay Batch, I mean finding Prince Charming kind of Now Gay Batches definitely, I wish is what it was called

gay bag and Jim. Honestly, that was such a home run, bucked it up, like I'm able to take ideas and suck them up like I was on the Gambit. But also I think this watching it, like am I just

watching them? Like maybe this just maybe like marriage is for everyone, but Bachelor is just for strads, you know what I mean, Like maybe God made that like just for shape people, because it does feel like it's does not write like something about it that isn't quite I mean the logical question that I've had since the beginning, it's like, what's stopping all the gay guys that are the contestants from sucking each other and like said each other,

like you really you legitimately can't. What are you gonna do? Go in there and like like Sandra Bullock and Ben Affleck like be a forces of nature like and handle them in a straight way, like I don't first over one. I think that's like for one, Gay Batch is much

hotter than all the suitors except like a couple. I mean, like I can see looking at it and being like Yeah, he's hotter in that I think about hotness in an objective way, like I guess he has he is like a hotter person in that you would see him on the cover of a magazine before any of the other ones. But like, I'm definitely more attracted to a lot of those other guys. Well, I think that almost none of them are like in terms of like having a hot personality.

None of them. For Gay Bachelor himself has almost certainly just come from a lobotomy, and like every episode and for two like, he's ejectively hot. By the way, I know someone who did get ahead from him in the community, in the community, and that's awesome. I get what I like saying. It was like you say, we don't say what it looks like I'm saying, because maybe someone will be able to get it. All right, Well it looks like saying something wild. Okay, Pat, So was it good head?

I don't know. I actually didn't talk to the person through a pat. Let's let's just what it sounds like. It's like, you're going to use this the pod was Was there a treatise on gay badge that you wanted to do? So? For one, I think it's really bad, like Bach is bad. It's like yeah, it's like all their dates are like to a yard to do outside yoga and vertu like um, like like this is a

moment from gay back. So when all the people are like not as hot objectively as you were saying, like as gay Batch, but also like personality wise, no one's hot, and like it's a bunch of people, right, it's a

bunch of shitty people. There's one kind of funny one on it and he is like not even that funny, but he's the only He's like, try to find a not funny gay person and like all of these people are so not funny except for why And he's like kind of funny but he thinks he's like too funny, and like, um, is he the little defense a little family? And there was the last episode I watched. The only Batch episode I've watched is when the it's the final four.

I haven't seen the sister and the sister is being such like a knowing like reality TV bit like so, um, basically, are you here for friendship or for romance? And I see friendship and the one like little blond gay is like is that what you think? To Robert and he's like and it's like a talking kind of Robert being like, my sister is definitely someone who speaks her mind. Jesus Christ.

It's just I love when someone comes into reality TV now like understanding the assignment, Like I feel like, um, like that one, that blonde one, he this is my favorite quote of him. Um they were so him and another one two on one date with gay bats birth date was doing outside yoga and that yoga portion went well for this, like for this blonde one who the Blomber already had a good connection with gay Batch from his previous day where they made a cent. They made

a heard about this. Yeah, so they went and they kissed and then like this date, they did outside yoga and then they each had like a section of the date to have a conversation with gay Batch and the um so the blob when his sex his second part day was walking through a barn. So they walked the barn like past they were talking and he was like, yeah, the conversation seemed really forced. And then they cut to the conversation and gave Batch was like, so what's your

favorite color? And the kid goes, well, I actually really love all the colors, but I do identify with blue. It was really crazy. That's so stupid because at that point it's like, how do they fucking make the top four or five or whatever? And he went to make But he because he is like kind of the only of all the contestants with a really good body, you know what. I think that probably would think that if you see gay Bag has a good body, he probably

wants that. That's why about you wound the show. I don't know, It's just like I have to say, I truly don't think that the gay Batch is good looking. I think I think if you want to look at him as like a specimen, as like a piece of meat, like he's like. I think once you add his personality, it's yeah, it's like awful. But I think as a

physical body he's attractive. I have I have a theory that gay Batt was deliberately designed at every stage to be like the like the antithetical opposite of Drag Race, because like Dragon here with drag Grace, you have like these entertainers, these people who must rely on pedal and personality, and like the whole the whole show is about like self love and self acceptance and like all this stuff

and you're working towards professional success. But meanwhile, gay batches like complete shallow, like so stupid, so for list completely devoid of any personality, right, I think that's just the other side of the reality show coin. That logo wanted shruck off. Yeah, I could see that, but also like then they should have gotten like hot, like physically hotter people. There's like some of them, it's just like there's no

They're like, are like there's no way. If you look at straight Batch, like everyone there is like a has a porn caliber body and is at least like can They're like they're like they have terrible conversations, but no way that for some reason is at least compelling to like you drop on like like I identify the most with Blue is like what you're trying to listen it on and like and they're not even that. But all the buzzwords were there for me in the show, which

is what I was checking my boxes. I had to hear the words going into tonight, and I had to hear the words I'm definitely falling for rob and I heard both those things, so I'm like, what are you going to say? Like it's absolutely delivered on being what it said it was gonna be because it's stupid as fuck, and I said those things I wanted like more, that's fair. I didn't want it to be good, but I wanted more. Well, what do we feel about Lance Bass on the show?

My favorite thing is when Lance Bass comes to the house and he's like, um, fellas, and then they go, Lances here here, we know something's gonna happen. When I just loved it. It's the most excited any people have been that Lance came into. I don't know, like he's fine, he's whatever. Like Lance is someone who is like friends with a lot of people I respect, but he like Jamie Lynn Sigler, Um, sure, Lisa vander Pump Yeah, yeah, they're close friends a hundred percent as a businesswoman, as

a value star and that's a restaurant tour. I respect pump Um. So you right, Like it's like he's he's he's not necessarily interesting by associated. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, why are you friends with him? Totally? But maybe it's not that. Maybe he's more interesting, but I've seen him on Watch What Happens Live and he's still boring. For me, it's just like, don't be boring, you don' that's the

that's just like the death knelf or whatever. Like that's just like the they were all fours and that's like a reality person, like do you actually regular batch either of you? You literally can't bring myself, you know what. It's a good gateway to regular Batch is Batch and power. Yeah. Padroom Paradise is literally so good and it's so they have they only had one season. What is Bachroom Paradise

is during this summer, It's a resort in Mexico. Were just like singles from the Bachelor World, just Batchel of the universe just come and live and kind of hook upon and also a season. But and then like at the end of every week there's some ceremony and people have to leave if they have no one. He's like interest triumph and by the end, like they were during the end of last summer, there was three engagements. That's huge. Yeah,

three engagements. Three engagements had it's holding up three fingers to and well, so there's this one girl who's who's been on um I think Bachelor only once, but she's been on also because some people have been on bachelor itself like a couple of times. And uh, but this one girl, Actually I has been on and he always brings drama, so they call her Actually I of the storm, you know. But everyone hates Actually I because she gets

so emotional. But she's into me, very interesting, and I won't ever hate someone like Actually I acause I think the Actually I was guilty of is like feeling, you know.

But she's always crying. She kind of looks like a Kardashian cousin, and she just like she's a virgin, twenty four year old virgin, which is beautiful, and she like, um, she was gonna lose it to this guy she met like four days well, because he was kind of like a bachelor you were, if you were in the Batchelor University, would be a good guy to lose your origin needed. But can I ask you a question? When you mouth the name of the person that got ahead from Robert,

were you just saying their last name? At first? I just said their last name, and then when when I was looked at as though I had more time, just last name. O. No, oh, it's loud and clear. It's loud and clear, and I am yeahsting Okay, so um batch and pair of great great gateway. You're saying, yeah, oh yeah, so then like once you so like that wasn't that was not my gateway, but that was like

that's what got me even more into straight back. Yeah great, um Pat, So, I just wanted to make sure that we touched on this because we do this with all our guests. We talked about this before, totally culture that shaped you? When did you say the culture? When would you say culture was for you? This is funny. I think that my answer during last episode to this was, you know, was Lissa who was rolling We've already and

that's how we got into that lista Kudro place. But you know what all changed My answer to the culture that really did shape me the most is Buffy thing. I'm Paris Flayer cool. Okay, yes, I think I do remember this being an element of your answer. Yeah, I

think I said vocabulary for Buffy. It's so good. It's like one of those things like Gilmore Girls or like Veronica Mars that really but I just miss see for me, I hate Gilm, but I love Why do you hate gil Like pell does not make a single choice with any lines without the entirety of the series. Yeah, but a little bit Lauring. No, I'm done the flooring Graham. I'll pass on Lauren Graham. Lauren Graham is the whole show.

I don't know. I just feel like she's likable, but it feels like she's working so hard to be likable that it exhausts. It's a little bit too much quirky girl. Yeah, she pulls it off at the end of the day. She is likable, but it feels like she probably goes home and like is a sleep us into the head pits that hits the pillow because she's worked so hard to be likable. But why do we vilify her for that? I don't lalify her. I'm just like I can't. Yeah,

I can't. I'm exhaustime, exasperate. I have nothing left to give to Warren Graham, but I do. And then the oxypandell just the opposite, like, give me something like she's good on mad Men? You Max? I did? I actually think that literally everyone on mad Men was good because the writing is so good to see. I watched My Man, but I didn't see the last maybe season or two seasons. You must have missed, like the last three, because I think she was. I could just not remember. Honestly, maybe

you don't remember. I remember being shocked when I saw her in the show just because she's in such I'm picturing you watching with her with like a gap with your like math my job just dropped, like Alexis Plate. Like later on in the in the show, when nev Campa was on one episode that would shock me. She played literally a woman on the plane. I love Nevcamba. Yeah, she was fantastic. Oh and nothing on that he is

a cult that did sham me. A Scream as I love Scream really to watch it when I didn't watch it like maybe when it came out, but I watched it young, and like maybe when I was like seventh grade, I watched it, and I think that I was like in love with that movie because it was so funny and it was so scary and it was about like teens in a way that I always have loved. I also, like truly love the first scene and I love the last, like the last the climactic scene, and they're both so good.

Like you see Scream four, yes, and I loved it like it. I love a Member Roberts because she's a great bitch. I don't know, like she's a great bitch, like I love her and Scream Queen season one so much. I don't I don't know now that Scream Queens is an anthology, Like I don't know that we need Scream

Queens and American Horror Story. But I I only watched, like I didn't end up watching all Scream Queens, but I love the The pilot of Screen Queens is so good, and it's also like joke a minute also, and so I love Emma Robertson that I love her in Scream four like I've never seen her, like not loved her. I want to see what's that movie she's in like recently. That's like there's a game on your cell phones that teams are playing and you have to jump off of

a building for points. Yeah, I want to see that and see her in her underwear. Did you watch American Horror Story? No, I watched the first season. I loved it. But that's also because I love, love, love Connie. I mean, she's loved her. Can I tell you brief, brief, brief tinge. I just went to Universal Studios and I did the

Halloween Horror Nights but it's not unlike you. Well, anyway, there's an American Horror story themed Haunted House, and I do not watch American horror like truly can't deal with anything. But you don't like horror. No, don't like horror, don't like it to be frightened, and Matt could not get through Stranger Things after this difference. No, I didn't even try to watch the first episode. I'm too scared of even the thought of it. I watched Henry watch it and it was too much watch it might be too

scary for me. There was times when he was gasping, and like, I just didn't like to see that. So for for American Horror Story Haunted House, they had such they did the first season, they did the Freak Show season, and they did Hotel, so I'm kid you not. There was there was a Lady Gava actress who was jumping

out and it was very titillating and horrifying. And my sister we got out of the the Hudson House and she was like, you guys need to go home and watch American Horor Story and know how well done that was. That was so well done, And like I was like, absolutely not. But Basically, what I'm saying is that American horror story Haunted House is a thing. And then you know what was depicted in it was those things in the black late text suits. They were very scared. But

that was in the first the first season. Yeah, and that was hot. It was I was straight for that. And there's a lot of like gay stuff in it. I know. But who's the hottest person on that show? Peter in the in the season all seasons. Oh, there the guy in the first season. It's really hot, Evan Peters, the blonde guy. What. Oh, Dylan McDermott And yeah, he actually is like a hot daddy guy from my childhood. He was on a show. I've never seen him before.

I wasn't famil with him. I think he was on a show called Dirty Sexy Money on ABC when and I used to watch him and be like, oh, when you were a little Yeah, I was so. I was so little. Not a lot of people know this about me, but I only got big in my twenties. Um. Anyways, um about Connie. Sorry thought I took us on a tangent. No, I think we need to go down. And I'm glad because I would have never even remembered about Dylan. My dormat Connie Britten is the best part of American crime

story people versus did you watch? Would you would have loved Selma Blair? I love that and I know that whole crowd because they're very like real hosts of Beverly Hills. Is like, that's like all like every once in a while Beverly Hills, there's like a new character that comes in and someone's like, oh, are you friends with that group? And something like I wasn't friends with that group and they mean a group of people that were friends with

nicolebron Simpson. It's very fun with say it's Fay Orange County Pays Beverly Hills, but is someone who like pops up in every while, like she's on like the Kardashians. Sometimes she's like around she when I say understands the assignment that is actually a Danny Wisconti once said about Fay Resnick, she understand like being on reality to it. My favorite favorite sting moment was like once in this

past season of Beverly Hills, what was it like? So there's a new person, Catherine who's famously who's husband favorites Nick alleged in her book that like nicolebal And Simpson

had an affair with before she got murdered. So then so this man I think is now in the picture, but his wife is now friends and his wife it was now like on the cast and she joined mid season and she said like she said this, she said, I don't carry a diagraph for anyone, but I carry a diagraph her favorite nick And then she like, um, they were at a dinner party and like, which is like phase always looking around at dinner parties, so that show and she was like, um, so she's sitting across

from Bay and she's like starts trying to pick a fight, and like she's like just like saying mean things to Fay and like gout getting all worked up, and then they like there's something back. Every good. But then she drops herself and you look beautiful tonight. By the way, It's just like it's such a good move. Oh my god.

That is You should watch American Crimes. I'm sure Pat's favorite scenes would be all like the ridiculous scenes where the Kardashians pop up, Dad, come on, let's not at the restaurant, and then like they had they had this truly stupid scene and otherwise amazing, brilliant show where the first scene of like episode three or four is like, um, kardash Robert Kardashian is like taking the girls and Rob out to brunch and he's like, I'm sorry, how how

long is the way going to be? To the hostess and she's like, oh my god, you're that guy from television and the Kardashians look at him and he's like yeah. She's like, I mean it's an hour. Wait, but I can get you a table. And they basically bring the Kardashians over their own table and all the Kardashians like, cool, amazing, Dad, I love you, and he says to them. David Swimmer call back to friends before coming from says to them, now, everyone,

I want to tell you something. You should be treated well because you're a good person, not because you're famous. It's so heavy handed, but this is how the Kardashians we may That is how they in that one moment at that one the thesis of American crime story is Wow, what a shame that he got away. Also, this is how the Kardashians come call back to last episode where one of the rules of culture was have to mention. When you have to mention something, you always have to

have to mention. I have to mention that, um for one, Pavid Stremmer, Like I can't stand him, but I am so attracted to him, inspect myself, especially in that piece of content of I'm sorry sorry, I mean that piece of art that is that American crime story because I've seen some pieces of it. You think he's more attractive in that than he is. I'm like, friends, Yeah, yeah,

I guess I don't know. I saw it and I was like, oh, he's like really checked on this, or maybe I just didn't remember how attractive I was doing. And then that inference and beguilingly attractive. Yeah, what is it? But you hate? He said, Oh you don't. It's like I wish I didn't response you see it, you can't

see it. So who is your favorite male friend? UMU person truly sexually shrim really le Blanc all the way not for me like an early one that yeah, I guess like for me like le Blanc is to like heavy hand, but I mean Summer gets like that too. I think that, like I don't know, I think LeBlanc got actually way hotter ass he's gotten older. I think he's more attractive now on like episodes and Ship. I like him when he's like way young, like in the

very early Friends. I don't like him when he gets like I don't like him for late Friends and Chandler like maybe personality. I wish I could say I got the Matthew Perry thing. I don't really get. Does anyone get it? Though? I think people get it. I mean I think I think a lot of people get it. I think a lot of people are like attracted to his personality, which is like a very female thing to say. I love his personality. You know that Matthew Perry went

to rehab three times over the course of Friends. Yeah, oh my god, I think for and Okaine an alcoholic for his first for his personality, I am I recently matter like a hundred and forty five facts you never knew about Friends, and for some reason that was shocking to me. But wait, and do you love Jennifer Aniston? I love Yeah, I love her too, But I really don't respect people that don't like her. Do I neither?

I I my mom doesn't like her because why I loved she kind of only doesn't like her like in like relative to Courtney Cox, and she voted for Trump. No, that's good. Um, I don't get I feel like I feel my mom loves Jennifer Aniston is a very Trump voter. I think my mom loves Courtney Cox and she feels like Courtney Cox gets over shadow. I understand, but also like she probably doesn't care anymore. This was years ago, but one time she said, I love Courtney Cox. I've

known Courtney Coxon's family ties. Did you know that Courtney Cox was like the biggest star when they started the show. In Leah Remedy's book, which just an incendiary read. Wait, who's Lea Remedy? You know of the King of Queens, the white scientologist, I hate scientologist. You don't like her? I hate her, and I hate Kevin James. Definitely gotta

say Kevin James, no thanks, But Leah Remedy, I say thanks. No. She used me to my dad once tell us hest sounds for like um via common but before that, for you pian, I think when like hersha or when I don't know what the syndicated on you piano, but I don't know like what the deal is with that, But like I just said that he had to be in her at some point, and she was mean, that's so unfortunate. I know, but I hate when celebrities are not nice. But wait, do you? But you wait about her book?

She wrote a book. It was called like the Escape from Scientology. It's definitely not called that, but let's say it is um and basically in it. Oh my god, what was I just talking about? Like Anniston and Courtney. She says that she was up for the role of Monica and then she saw Courtney Cox walk in and she was like, we knew it was over. Well, Courenney Caxton tights. But also Jennifer Anniston her parents are famous, aren't they? Or her dad? Yes? And also here's some

tea on Jennifer Aniston. Did you know that she was offered to be a cast member on Saturday Night Live and she chose to be on Friends instead? Dollars? Yeah, what would that have been like? If we knew Jennifer Aniston as a cast member of Saturday Night Live, things could have turned down a lot more differently. I feel like it would cut away now, it would see it different. Yeah, we could go to that world and like two of us wouldn't be here. No, I really I enjoyed Jenniferison

very much. And people that are always like, um, well, she has no range. I'm like that, she doesn't need to have range. Also, I don't have any range. Yeah, I think that's you. I think she's let herself get to like bombed down in like tabloid culture, like luckily, like Friends ended in Lisa cougo like she like made web therapy just because, and she made the comeback just because, and she like like Lisa Hudo is like a comedian

and Jennifer Aniston is a comedic actress who's pretty. I think, oh, that is a big difference being a comedic actress and being a comedian. That is. But maybe maybe Lisa and Jennifer's experiences at Friends sort of shaped their trajectories a little bit, because Lisa was always seen as the comedic crutch of the show, and meanwhile, Rachel as a character was like the ainu Bone has pulled up a Pat

Reagan's status on his phone. I'm wondering what selection I think I have to say, Pat, one of the funniest people on Facebook. Ever, stop given out that code recently, I said, I texted you, and I test to Henry

about it. I'm like, literally Pat is killing me on Facebook and Henry goes been my number one for a while, and Henry does have rankings that Henry he's very you know, you don't think he's watching you all, but he's watching you all and he's absolutely And look, I have to co sign because I think this is some of your best work. I think this is one of your most iconic posts. My favorite me ask you this does it? Does it reflect in the numbers, because sometimes it doesn't.

It doesn't reflect the number, which I think, which I think is just a true travesty. But can I I'm gonna read this one first. Cool, this was Okay, I'm sorry, just to contextualize this, this was This is my favorite too. This was after the third debate and Pat had this whole run about Tiffany Trump's number, like like what she wore her number and so and so this is ensemble ensemble.

This is what This is what Pat posted like sort of as like not a button to the whole series, but like as as like a ps, yes, it's so good. It would be a fun piece for like a more talk show to have. I can't read this okay, tracking at this. It would be a fun piece for like a morning talk show to have Ivanka and Tiffany come on Chelsea Clinton, uh yeah makeover and like go through her closet and throw it all her bad clothes and

teach her how to have a star quality. And at the end they walk her down a runaway in the studio and she is so competent with her new look, and thest says, Chelsea look absolutely stunning right now because you're about tying. But the important question is how do you feel? And she's like gushing, I feel amazing, so competent. I know with this look, all definitely have the tools

to see. I'm really glad. I listened to Tiffany and Ivanka and then they bring out her friends and to react to the new Chelsea, and it's just are we looking non plus? Like I've worked so hard for women though, it's so funny. We thank you for reading my piece. Are you going to write a book? What? What will you write a humor book? You're such a storyteller. I get on the mic, You idiot got talking to the mic. This is seriously insane. I don't know that. Also, don't

withdraw when people praise you except so sorry. I'm so sorry. I accept the praise. I accept the praise, I accept the book deal, Um, no, thank you. I am so intrigued by Teffany Trump. Ye, I don't know why saying about her like she did not exist, like okay, so in season five Buffy or in the season four finale, um, like Buffy had been an only child like throughout the series and no, and then in the finale what was

her friend? But and the and the um finale, her mom was like, I feel like, go, like watch your little sister, and like Michelle trash and Berg comes in as Dawn, her little sister who's in the rest of the series and we've just never seen her. Then try not that she's like a key that like uh like some like forces like uh implanted memories in the entire uh in in like everyone's minds, like the Buffy would protect her like extra special because she's like a key

to like hell or something. I love, but that's what I get. Feels like a Tiffany Trump. But she's never like literally there have been like interviews where they're like, this is your only child, right, or like I didn't even think that the brothers were really before this election, like it was just and say, okay, fine, like the brothers are real, and then now it's like Tiffany Trump, like where did you come from? But I'm obsessed with her.

It's like, you know what, I get that fascination because mad this will be a reference that you and I get. It's very much Luxy Gray season. Yeah, that was a huge crazy But you don't still watch. I'm like, I've I'm not this current season, but I've watched, like when this season goes up on that, I will watch. Oh my god, I will say about Uxi grade they did Shawna did plant the seed for LuxI? And yes they

mentioned her? Yes right, yes, No. I recently went back and I was sing, went back and you watched and they do mention her. She Harvard. Yeah, like when Meredith like mother or whoever is when Thatcher's wife is in she was a Catholoxy and she's like, oh, she's in Harvard. I remember I saw that brilliant show. And that's why I like, That's why I like about those shows that like, um, you could tell there's planning. Then then it's like a legitimate storytelling and not just like making it up as

you go, like, um, where is Kyler Lee? Who I know? Is that? Who play? Is that who played LEXI? Yeah? I know? And you know who elsewhere is the woman who played Teddy? I love favorite No No No Bowen and I for years have been did you watch yes? Did you watch her on Lipstick Jungle? Literally couldn't got them? She was in Cash Mafia? R right that way. There's one more that's like the Kim River trifecta that I'm

not getting right trying for cash my Mafia. She was in some Second City TV short I've never with Tina Fey and like any poland Rachel Tragic, we need Kim. I also love her. Do you know? Kim River? To me reminds me of a time when, like Kim River was like the actress that you were always pleased to see on television and not for me. Also at that time was Sarah Paulson and Sarah who is that? Sarah American Horror Story like American har Story, and she also

plays Marsha Clark on American Crime Story, Big Television. She loves like Karen truly was she in American Horror? She's someone different every season I've only seen first Okay, I've already established I've only seen first sees. She plays like a real estate agent on the first I love her, but remember what she looks like? Okay, well you I'll google them. I placed Lana Winters on the second season, which thank you Ryan Murphy for that game. Um wait,

what was gonna say? I was just gonna say that Sarah Paulson, of course, is now blown up, and I wish that Kim Raver would blow up on the same but she did, like blow There's some some people that just blow up on TV. And I'll give three examples to them. We've already discussed, so it's easy. One of them is Kim Ravers whatever, Ravers whatever, please say who I want you to say? Okay, I don't know, Okay, well. The second is Lexie Gray's character, like Lexi Gray's actress,

that Tyler, So she was not another team movie. Right before and right before she got on Grays, there was like hum remembering an Entertainment Weekly article that was like this is these are people who, like the industry wants to be successful, but they can't be. And she was almost right before She's like Gray's anatomy or not even right before. A bit before, she was on a show that I watched with my fad that was like about a group of friends. I think it's called Reunion. Yes, yea,

so good. She was on that They Can before you saw the Mystery. I love those shows that are like a mystery and wants Harper's Island or like, um, oh my god, it's like a it's like a murder mystery, like it's murder mystery shows I love. I'm on edge of c wanting to know what the third person is. Okay, the third person is. I think her name is Emily van Kampen. Yeah, Emily van camp She was on Brothers and Sisters, and she was famously on Revenge, and she

was also on her her start. Yes time, she's a big time, but she's only on those like non Shonda nighttime soaps. And when when you've been on that many nighttime soaps and you've never worked with Shonda, there's a story there, you know what I mean to work or signed It doesn't like she might be you know. I get the sense she's such a proud don't you know. Well, I think she's actually really really good and also so

fun to see her play like a fun bitch. I like because she had played all these like kind of like goody two shows characters, and I avenge no, I only caught some episode is so good? All right, I will bad. It's really bad, but good. You have to the next one I make watch. It's really good to just Netflix watch the entirety of it, because it's fun to watch something good, like right now we're watching VIEP.

But also I want to watch something just yeah, that's really good for that, Like it's bad in the right way where you're like like every every moment, it's like it's like a tensely Claire between like two social lights who have like secretly murdered each other. So you didn't nail what I wanted you to do, and I didn't say what I wanted to say. I wanted you to say.

Elizabeth Mitchell who played Juliette on Lost and then the show which was about the Aliens coming to starring um Her and Marina Backer, and has like, for some reason explode but I don't know who that is. She's also she played the like truly boring wife on Homeland and now the show. She's gorgeous though, right I think that, but but with Kate, I mean, not with oh, Juliette. I was thinking of Kate, No Kate. Eventually, Juliette is

the blonde Julie Blonde who was truly amazing. But America fell in love with Julia, but I felt like she was never really in anything else. She was the star of. She was the star of like ABC's next big sci fi show, and it just didn't really work, like it just kind of like didn't end up being that great. But she's amazing actress. And she was in Santa Claus three Is to Me and his Life and then something It's just kind of funny now who doesn't even want

to act anymore? But and she's like only does Blockbusters. She's Evangeline. Evangeline is like, you know, I'm not interested in really acting anymore. But she will be in the occasional and occasionalble. She will be in the occasional huge movie. You know. I resentally posted this that like it's not fair that Blake Lively had as a post Gossip Girl career and Layton Mester doesn't because latter didn't go into that show being who we were going to talk about.

It's supposed to be like Lively vehicle. But Latens just did amazing work throughout the entirety of it. But then someone posted that she's about to be in a sitcom with Adam Pally, So that's cool. I just haven't seen her like I always in them, but I guess because the friends of Teller. Can I tell you one thing that I think it works to Laton met Musters Layton Mester's detriment is she is interchangeable with another soap operational.

I was about to say Chel, but all the o C people besides Ben McKenzie aren't really working right now. Another Michel Belson is a magnum Um ice cream bar commercials and she's also in chap STI commercials for kind just a generic chap stick. Right now, she's commercials for a chap Steck. But I want the actress who played Cears today with the actress who played Morrissa. There were some you know who has amazing is Joy Cooper? Yes,

Clark so good? And can we talk about Nicolette Nicola Nicole Charon, let's exume her wait famously was slapped by Mark Cherry desperate. The titles episod is can we talk about Nicolatt. We never talk about Nicolette. Answer being I was never a Desperate house hold on before Okay, before we move on from Nicolette, Matt, you and I have to talk about We're talking about this regularly. But her character eaties death on Desperate house so good, peic just

her being chased out of her different ways. She gets sword, she's it's like a domestic dispute her house. She's choked out, she gets choked and then like and there's so many fakeouts for her death. So she gets chased out of her home after she's being after she was strangled, and then she gets into her car. It's pouring rain outside, and then she has she gets into a car accident, but that's not it. She gets out of the car, she walks has fallen wire has fallen somehow, and then

she walks into a puddle. She's stopping wet, remember, somehow gets her hand on the water and the exposed wire and just died. I think literally what it was was the wire had fallen into the puddle and she stepped in the puddle and the puddle death by puddle. Wow, Just what a crazy And also she tried to kill herself early in this early in the series, when she tried to hang herself because Carlos didn't want to be with her anymore? What is stupid these questions about about desperate?

Pausew we we have answered? Number one? Whatever happened to Terry Hatcher? Remember number two? Remember when that was gonna be like I'm not just gonna like Marcia Cross was like back and I was like back from what? And then and like whatever happened to her? Number three? Like who is the best of all of them? Number? Actually? Answer day and is Nicola like on the same level as the rest of them? Okay, boy, you couldn't have

asked better questions? Answer fantastic questions, pat first, first question. Matt has alluded to this in the past. I believe it was on studious episode of Last Culture, says Terry Hatcher was one of those actresses much like uh the guy who played Matt Matthew Shepard. Oh no, um the guy who played doctor Shepherd on Lost Um uh Matthew Fox Box. Terry Hatcher will come back every fifteen years and you're like, are they dead? And we'll be like,

were they dead? Where have you been? And then she'll have her like moment where she wins a golden Globe's like, Wow, couldn't have been more of a husband, And now I'm that kind of she literally would disappear vindication. So the answer the question is a relative. We don't know, we don't know, we don't know what's happened to her, we don't know where she is. The second question was Marcia Cross. Yeah, what's kind of same question with her? Marcia Cross? Wasn't

she like a teen heart? Throughout she was? She played like a villain on Medals Place, and there was a water cooler episode where she took off her wig and revealed a huge headscar. I truly don't really understand what was the big deal about it. I think she was an alien. I don't know if she was an alien, but I think I know what it'll be funny she's not an alien. But also but yeah, I think was like the same for her too, right where it was

like her big come back. She was truly amazing. She was they all were amazing, And then it was kind of strange when they were all up for Emmy's except Eva the first year and we know that Terry Hatcher will win the Emmy for her portrayal of Susan because she's really the star of the show, and also the

narrative of like Terry Hatcher coming back. But then they gave it to Felicity Hoffman and it was I know this, okay, but the Golden globes, remember that, No golden globes Terry Hatcher one, no, no, no, remember this golden gold globes? Is this? It was Terry? It was Terry Marcia um, I think even even Eva was not meane for the But then guess who won? Uh fucking weeds Weed leader. Oh I hate her. This might have been another year because the first year they were all nominated Terry Hatchrick.

In the second season and then the second season they were all nominated and all lost, all lost to Mary Louise. But but for the Emmys, it was true shock when Felicity Hoffen walked away with the Emmy, right because they thought Terry was gonna wa Now this bleeds into your next question, which was, oh is Nikola Cherry on the same left the best with them? Well that your your question was who's the best? That was four? That was

the question. That was a question for Nicolette and the answer to Who's the best is actually scientifically and statistically, Eva is the best because she's the best. She was the best communic actress. She was also very good at the dramatic stuff. Was very just a very strong, but it's the best. She was the hottest, She was the funniest. She was the best with the one liner. And she is might known one comedic influence. I think that I'm

not kidding was very good. The way I delivered my one liner and was on a show, Uh, it was like should They were trying to like do like a send up of telenovela remember this last I think it was called telenovela Tella. And then she executive, She she like executive, produces some stuff and stomps for Hillary a lot sims for Hillary and post and your answer to the question is nicolet Sheridan as big a deal the

rest of them. While this led to a lawsuit hunting, this led to a true loss on the show, they started to act like, yes she was, but really the fun of Britt was always that she would pop in and be like Susan and say something like truly bitchy and like wash her car and her lingerie and be like, oh I just figured I'd washed my car and be like really truly, like sorry, in't went out there, but this is true. She was like the slut. She was the bitch goddess, which is what you need on a show.

I feel like they started that series it was gonna be like the next Sex in the City, and it just fizzled so hard. Whatever. I think that I forgot about Huffman, and I think I like her the best. Also definitely the best that being tired. Desperate Housewives did have a good run at being like this the night soap that had like season long arcs that were solid. It was such a good show in the first season. I recommend everyone watched the first season. It just got

so bad. I love those shows that are such there's some shows that's like a few stopped writing this after the first season, it would be perfect Glee to extent, like like I think two shows to me, or if this show stopped at the end of the first season, it would be to me, truly perfect art. But like that's the nature of television as you have to just if it is successful, you have to just keep making

it up then and then it becomes worse. So it's like, um, one of them is Friday Night Lights that if that stopped being written after its first season would be truly perfect. And also Girls also the same way. I actually think the last season of Girls was the best ever, was the best time. I think that go back and watched the first season. I'm not taking away. Oh, I think the first season is amazing, but I think this last season was really good. I think it was good, but

I think that the first season was unbelievable. I think that the first this last season was watchable and good, but I think that like it has had some unwatchable seasons. Oh, there have been some some cloners, but I think that like the season is good, but there are still like some moments that just don't feel real. There's no grounding to them, or it just feels made up. But like the first season really felt like very good, honest right, and yeah, like very specific. You know there's an episode

of the first season it's called All Adventurous Women Do. Yeah, that's one of the best episodes of television. It ends with her dancing to the dance to Dancing on My Own And also that's the episode which has her fight with Andrew Reynolds in the bar. It was nice to see you. Your dad is gay, so good, so um. But anyway, I'm happy that we talked about that was even though I don't watch it, I'm glad to because

no one talks about it. And I hate when people act like something never happened and they feel like all of America acts like Desperate Housewives never happened. Well, I will say this, and I think I've said this to you definitely before matt Um. Desperate Housewives, like ushered TV back into like narrative stuff for a while, like two thousand to two thousand four. It was like reality, reality,

reality reality. That's why they're called the Real Housewives. Is it is because Desperate Housewives was a huge hit and they were like, Okay, let's do a reality show with people like this. They wanted to combine the two hits of that moment, which are which brings me that the last thing I was the first one, He was the first one. The last thing I'll say is that I truly love looking at beach. Well, we didn't tell you

this was over yet, so that's not the last. Before I died, That's gonna be the last thing I truly love. I truly love. I drifted away. It was so crazy, and he got up at bed at us and he said, I truly love Laguna, truly love. She went into the light. Wow, don't.

My favorite scene of television, of movies, of art, show yours and then we'll all show you nine is the scene from the first ever episode of Laguna Beach where it's Morgan, I'll see you low and Christina sitting out that I named Morgan first, all sitting around a table on the deck planning a party with notebooks and they're like, okay, that's plan a party and they all write notebooks and something. Well it should be like something cool as I know,

black and white. That's right, a black and white affair. And they all write it down their notebook. It's so funny. Favorite scene of film, television history, and give you mine. That one's mine, so you can't take it. Yeah. I think we all were going to say that question, I I have mine? Should I go first? Yeah? You go first.

My favorite scene in all of seem out of history is the scene the last scene an episode of The O C. Samara Armstrong's character Anna leaves to get on the plane and she's leaving Seth Cohen and he's begging her to stay, and she says, Cohen, I have to go, and basically she leaves. And there's a beautiful song that plays while it's if you Leave, if you Leave, and I remember crying, and I remember I started crying. Without knowing I was going to cry. I just started to cry,

and my mom was like trying as well. And I was like, oh my god, we know we love the What happened when she said, confidence Cohen? Wait the first season? It was first season A good show MANA was like a character that like really came on and just like was supposed to be a part, and then all of a sudden, her arc was up and I was just like,

oh my god, this character cannot leave. We've already falling in love with her, which is a line from Desperate Housewives when they come to get the um when they come to get the baby from Gabrielle and Carlos, and Gabrielle goes, we've already fallen in love with her. And then never forget when Gabby did this insane thing where she fixated on the toy. Yes, oh my god, that was crazy. So they took this toy that she like put she like personified this toy that she found as

a baby, and she literally couldn't let it go. Like she was getting crazy. She's having like a nervous breakdown. And also never forget the scene where she let the balloon go in the park. Yes, the first season, because they were trying, because she didn't get nominated for an Emmy, they were trying to give her like more since that's really her first exactly. I mean her first season was just to be like the sassy one, the sassy, sexy one who like fucked the high school kid. Who was

you think about that? The fun high school kid is crazy. It's fully crazy and I literally can't believe it have and not my show. Favorite scene in all of television or film history. Favorite scene of in all of television film art as I believe passed right or let for sure Grey's Anatomy, I'm not this is controversial season. He's in five. I don't remember. Oh my god, Sandro comes home. I forget what the context was. It's it's not in the episode, it's in the performance and in the delivery

of this one line. She confronts Owen. Yes, she confronts own about something, and she just like really really likes once over the season five histoically she just like late season five or early season sex. I might be getting this wrong, but she stoically like takes him the task and then Matt you know this line and then she ends this like just delivers it devoid of emotion. Then it all cracks at this last song and it took a piece of me and will never happen again. Sandra

Oh icon goddess, television screen goddess. The fact that she never wanted for grayesty something that really happened to me. There was a year it was Sandra was last year on grays Um and it was one of her last It was actually I think her last episode of grays and she what she talks to Meredith the sun you are. It was not even I think episode ever that where she was a narrator of it, you know what I mean. And it was like it started with like her being

like who are you? How did you get who are you? Where are you? How did you get here? And it was like those and it's like how did And it's like her, that's what you say to a patient to let them like to see if they're like cognizant, and then it ends with her being like who are you, like where where are you? And it's like, it was so good. I watched around New York City for a full like four months time people that I thought that that episode should have been not made it for an

Emmy Award an episode of season ten of Grace. And then oh my god, she didn't stop doing great work. I mean she totally could have hung it up, but she she kept doing great work till the very end. Oh my god, wait no, there's so Manydro moments like

how about um um, it's not difficult. It's comparable Oh my god in the second season when he's interviewing all of them no no, no, no, season four where she has to report that she sucked yes, yes, yes, here it is a detailed um report on my sexual history satisfied, and they're like, we have to do this. It's like our job, like sorry, sorry, sorry, and she's like, it's not difficult. That's not difficult. It's unbearable, but it's like attached to a whole monologue. It's part of that monologue.

She goes, I am she goes, oh my god, so good. I was his hand I was his hand, and now I'm a ghost the best, the best says, She goes, I was the unseen hand to his brilliant and then she literally a tear rolls down her face and she looks away from the camera and she goes, and then she resumes the monologue and like, it's just it's so fine, It's so fine. And also, never forget somebody's to date. Wait when is that? Who are you? Who do you

claim to be? Season? It's in a mile? But also, um, remember that stint where it's like her and Mr Feeney in Minnesota, Mr fee the guy who plays Mr. Oh

my god, no, I don't remember that. So she remember they take their boards or whatever not they're board like they're like, I think it's the other boards one, the one that come to their fails because he's sucking Jack's Oh this is so at this point, Okay, well wait, can I just say it would have been really nice of Christina, you, like Meredith Gray's best friend, to fly back from Europe to like check in on with her

after her husband died. And that's my biggest problem I think with Gray's Anatomy is like we started it out with all these characters and we bought into the world and everything, and then it's like, oh yeah, and then Izzy left and never came back because you don't like her. But also like I'm trying to rhyme some let me just give as A. Washington a chance again, because I'm don't really care that he said Faggott and I will

save this from my I don't think so, honey. Okay, I want to say one more thing, attacks that I want Annison to come back for one episode that going to come back totally one of the best, was the best? Know the answer is no, because the Gray's Anatomy is a husk of its former self, but anion that entrance line her first line, Hi, you're sleeping with my husband. So you're the woman that's sleeping with my husband, and

you must be sleeping with my husband. And now they ever whenever anyone's like cheats with like truly, since I whenever anyone like cheats on their like spouse, I want what Meredith did it and it's like it's not the same. Always acts like it was like she didn't know. I Meredith didn't know, she didn't know, Marilyn didn't know. And also she was Christina's person person is when we talking about the o C. The o C is an example of that would be perfect if it's remember they didn't.

They opened it up with the first six episodes like before, like in August. That's like a preview. Those six episodes should have been like the whole series. They should have ended up right then. It would have been perfect television. I thought that I had the full first season was it was good. But the second season is no, no, no, no, no no no. The first season was perfect and then the literal first episode of season two was Marissa screaming and throwing that chair in the pool, and that's when

you knew it was over. Started with a six episode build up that ended with them coming out of Tiawana with Ryan carrying Marissa, and I had my favorite moment of all of television, which is when, um it is when Ryan. I know when like the second episode maybe the first for Luke punches Ryan face and this welcome to your seat, bitch. Oh yeah, that's the first episode, the whole all of her trask the New Year's Kiss,

come on. We thought Oliver was going to be good in the beginning, and then all of a sudden he was fully crazy. I remember it was like one of those Fox promos that were like next do see, and it was like, I don't know. The scream goes to black and you hear a gunshot and it was like, oh my, it was fine, that's not gonna go. Yeah. He literally wasn't a mental case a second ago. Um, let's move on to I don't think. I don't know, my I don't think so, honey. Last time I was

people who came for Selena. But now no one's like coming for her anymore. So I have to be true to that. I mean, no one's coming for her because I think she's really sick, right, isn't she not well? How do I think for like but not for drugs? Oh? Maybe I think she might be in rehab for like her mental health. Oh sometimes, Derek nnected. Sometimes I don't know. I honestly don't know, but I think I literally read

something was like they made a clarification. They were like, she's not going to rehab for drink drugs and alcohol. She's going to rehab to work on her well being. If you're famous, you can be hospitalized for exhaust 's true. Um, all right, I have a good. I don't think so, honey. Actually I have to and I'm gonna do thirty thirty three. Okay, all right, this is this is I'm gonna time me. I'll time you, okay, all right, and then do it? Should I just end you at the first or what's

the deal? So you know what I'm I'm only gonna do one, okay, alright, already great, yep, Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many time starts down. I don't think so, honey. Shonda rhymes, and you know what, I bet a lot of people are gonna be very surprised to him me come from Miss Shanda today because I obviously love her work. I obviously I'm a fan, longtime fan, longtime listener, first time caller to you, honey, because I have a bone

to pick with you. And guess what. You might have thought you got away with this, but you did it. How dare you? I don't think so, honey. Give Isaiah Washington, a homophobe, a second chance on your show and then constantly still dragged Katherine Heigel in the media. You better not. You better stop pretending to be all about women. One guess what, there was one woman out there who was a little outspoken, and then she gets kicked off your show and you constantly drag her through the mom when

you have no reason to. I don't think so, honey. Josiah Washington called tier I a faggot in the middle of the woods, and you thought it would stay in the woods. Honey. If a tree falls, maybe no one sees it. But if someone says faggot, they get punched out by Derek Shephard. And guess what the media knows. And also, Shonda Rhymes hates gay people. There I said it. You just because one rim job on ABC just not make it okay to bring Washington back. I don't think

so hard. That's one minute. Oh my god. Some people think if you lick a butt on primetime TV, it breminds all bridges. You think gay people. I think that Shonda Rhymes um uses us as props, but never why never a gay man? And great except for one episode arc because Shonda Rhimes doesn't really she didn't care about gay people until she needed to break down a new frontier and she's like, what haven't I done yet? Oh yeah, rim job characters on Scandal, I don't watch. Here's the deal.

I don't hate Shonda Himes, and I'm like, I'm pumping this full of air because like whatever, but I will say that, like, it's not acceptable that she gave Isaiah Washington a second chance like that and be like, oh, well, it was to wrap up this character in this relationship, and it was like funk that because there's never been more like plot lines hanging them with the is the

character not returning? I mean, there's so much investment in that character early on she became a lead of that show, and then for her to just go away in that way, like literally they should have just killed the character. I mean, we all know that famous Mount Lank at the end of season two and that did make curly. But I think that for us to for it to be equal,

we need to see Alex leave the show. I mean to see what she does for that, because if Alex offt the show and she didn't bring it back, then it would be the same. But she if she if her defense this because she wanted to wrap up all these strings of Christina and she like owed it to that character, then I think we need to see Alex leave,

if that makes sense. Isaiah Washington called tr Night of faggot and then he said the word faggot again like in the pressure m at the Emmy's and like he just was ugly and he's a home Like why did she give him a second chance? I don't understand, and then drag Katherine Heigel in the media because if she hasn't been drug enough, like I don't think she's that bad of a person, like give me a break, and she's and what is she in right now? She wasn't She's in a CBS show with Liver and Cox. I

don't really know. And also I'll never forget, Like when that all happened, Katherine Heigel was out there toward the press being like this is really upsetting me, the fact that he said this, and he shouldn't be speaking in public, and like I will defense here night toil my dying day, Like that's my really good friend. And I'm like, wow, that's really cool and exciting that she like had his back and that's her friend and everything, and she wasn't

afraid to say anything. But she doesn't get any accolades for that. She only gets ship for the stuff that she said, like for example, with calling out and knocked up for a little bit of sexism, which I'm sorry, but watch the movie, like it is a little bit sexist, like sure, like whatever, but like I think it was like kind of anti feminist of like everyone involved the Katherine Heigel thing. I think it's really kind of a

shame and I don't think so honey. Okay, all right, I don't think of my Emily nervous but it's okay, I'll go next. Um My, I don't think so, honey. Matt, do you want to keep an eye on the on the clock for me? Yes, I don't think so honey. Starts Okay, I'm sorry. Can you start that again? Because you do not say the word now. I just thought like it was intuitive. It's sorry, it wasn't. Okay, you

look ready. Starts now. I don't think so, honey. People at Shanghai Disneyland who cut the lines, especially at rides like soaring over the World, over the landmarks of the world, when when it's a three hour wait, mama. People in China to have have no sense of decorn and waiting and waiting in lines respecting the queue. They cut, They cut, they cut, They sneak through the sardine packed lines. The little Maze of of whatever. People that are just trying

to get on fucking tron LFE cycle run. They say, I have to make excuse me, excuse me, I have to meet my my parents who are waiting for me up front. Bullshit. You have your parents here with you. You're there alone because look, it's a one child only policy. You're there you You're used to being alone, and I I see right through you. Honey. I don't like this, this this disregard for the basic rules of society. Honey, China. You are a farce of a country. I'm ashamed to

be ashamed to be from China. That's one minute to be from China. You heard it here live on. That was a heavy and honey that they both have been pretty heavy. They've been heavy. Yeah, then that opens the door. But one is going through something right now, and it's Fun's birthday. That's just tired. I'm tired, and I'm like, this is an adjustment week, and like I'm just having to consider a lot. What's adjustment week? What's I got

back from China? Okay, didn't you hear is? I don't think so, honey, Yeah, Okay, So I just hope there's not something really wrong. What do you suspect it is meccury in regular grade? Is that the excuse that I always make? But I want to save you, but I can only see massive. That's a shitty song from the second half of Prison by Katy Perry. I love that. I was trying to give Pat more time to think.

That doesn't have to be about necessarily pop cults, but like just about the week, anything that upsets you, anything I'll get. I'll give you the time, Pat, This is Pat Regans. I don't think so honey. Time starts now. I don't think so honey about people who shamed me about um posting on social like too much, or about ever being on your phone ever, because people act like if you're in a conversation with them that you have

to have to have to be engaged. But how about you like engage me and you know what I mean, Like I have my phone, Like that's not ever guilt anyone for being on our phone to me. All do it Like I don't care if I'm staying on the subway steps and you need to like side step for a second, because guess what counting on It's like take a deep breath and not roller eyes quite so hard

on each other for being on our phones. And second, secondly, I will always post my treuth on social media, on Facebook dot com, on tour dot com, no matter what, and I will do that. I will post every single thought that ever enters into my head and I right to do that. And for those of you who do not post every thought that comes into your head, well then I feel truly sorry for you that you're so ashamed and embarrassed or that you don't have thoughts that

are interesting enough to post. And honestly, I will never not, once ever again feel badly for speaking my truth because I used to do that and guess what killed me? Is this going to be what saves you? Yes, that's fine, minute beautiful, that was wonderful. I'm a fun episode. And the last thing I'll say is I truly love Beach. You can catch Pat Regan when you returned from some Loine nights someday. You can also catch him on Twitter at po Regon And it's really yeah, I knew it.

I knew it looking as my favorite little present like God full disclosed to the listeners. I came into this episode a little flustered because Pat had a hard time finding the building had necessarily but I had to go outside. I had to go outside and try and find just missed each other. Pat went into the round building well Bow, and I have to say, you're commended for doing like a really good job of hiding that. But no, look,

we've come a long way sinceince since that happened. Totally. Yeah, and I want to say to that my maps on my pane said that to fifty Mercer was up over Waverley and it's in fact several blocks below that. And then they want the man inside this building directed me the wrong elevator shaft and I went up to the wrong pillar. But that is where I met my husband, a hot man, who told me what I find the b building? And how did they tell you that you

would do sexually in Europe? He didn't mention how it's the last thing you'll say. I truly love Laguna Beach. And can we talk about Nicolette? Thank you, guys, lost reason Lie Matt Rogers And that was Pean, our guest. Thank you for ever. Well, see you guys next time. This has been a Forever Do production. Executive produced by Joe Silio, Alex Ramsay and Brett bom. For more podcasts, please visit Trevor dog Productions dot com, door m