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Apr 06, 201837 minEp. 80
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Look man, oh, I see you my line and look over there. How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Well, hi guys, we're not starting off with our standard ding dong Lost Culture resta calling because we are here to show you a little preview of what our Patreon episodes are like. So for five dollars a month, you can donate on our Patreon page Patreon dot com slash Lost Culture restufs and um, we're gonna give you some great specific content. Yes,

And I'm Matt Rogers and I'm the other host. And what I speak on this podcast about RuPaul's Drag Race, it resonates. Yes, absolutely absolutely. I don't know why I went into that accent. Um, but guys, we are talking about Rupau's Drag Race season ten, all season long. In addition to our Vulture recaps. This is um really, I would say slightly better than our recaps because we're having real time conversations. We're realizing things as we're talking about them.

Wouldn't you say? Yeah? I would say, as the as Matt Rogers, the other host of the podcast who does the um Patreon as well, that I think that it's really very good. Yes, so thank you so much, Matt, for that beautiful, beautiful putting beautiful words to that. Um, and we hope to see you on Patreon. So enjoyed this episode. This is us recapping RuPaul's drag Ray season ten, episode three. If you want more, check us out at

Patreon and I'm at Rogers and this will be Patreon. Bye. Well, hello you fool squeeze, And it's another episode of Last Culturesa's recaps RuPaul's a drag Raise. Um, we're so starry. We've missed a couple of episodes, but we're so happy to be joining you guys again on Patreon. Thanks again for donating. And to be fair, it was like the beginning of the season. We didn't miss much totally totally.

We we all had time to digest what's happening. And speaking of what's happening, I'm really really into this season alrighty oh, I love this season. I think this is a eight season. I think we have amazing queens, not a lot of filler queens happening here. Sure, I mean, this is this is competitive fish. If the first queen out is already making giving providing the most entertaining meme of the year so far, that's huge. Many ms Manji, I don't know if I like it as much as

everyone else seems to. I'm just admiring how long it's been. It's been a full week and a half, almost two weeks since she's been eliminated, and this thing is still going. It's pretty crazy. It makes me feel like she'll have

a life after the show. Well that's the thing. It's like, I don't think she's coming back the well yeah, I mean, like a friend of the show, Josh Sharp is like really trying to put out like the secret into the world of actualizing that she's going to come back by saying she's gonna be a bring She's and me bring back. But like if you saw her watch your Packing with Michelle, like Michelle, Like you can see the look in Michelle's eyes when she realizes like, oh wow, you're so funny

and charming. Oh I wish you could have She literally says, oh, I wish you could have stayed longer. And so like that's telling you right there that like Michelle isad like they've shot the whole season, Like Vanji looks completely different, She's gotten like facial hair in a different hair color, Like this is postseason they're shooting this and um, it's clear that she does not make a return unless Michelle Vissage is the actress of the Stuy Honey, and she

would have to be. I think Michelle is a very talented person. I think Michelle is incredibly talented and I love her as a judge. And anyone that does like Michelle Visage, I think you really need to look within look And I'm not I don't mean to name drop, but I'm gonna name drop a little bit I wrote.

I wrote for Logo, some like fun ad copy that like she bobbed the drag Queen and Kissan from Fire Island um performed and like I was on set for just a few moments, but like Michelle is just reading them key cards that prompt her like a fucking pro. She's She's an amazing She seemed to enjoy the words she did. She was she was giggling at a few jokes and then she like punched up some jokes on set. She didn't know that. I was like, she didn't know

who I was. I was just kind of standing to the side, but she was like mm, she was like how about this, and and the director was like, yeah, that's great, and I was like, yeah, that is better, Like she is a total pro. There you go, there, you you think she would win Drag Race. I think so, I think honestly, like I know, vad I know, like people say that like you can't have the show without Rue hosting, but like in some alternate reality, like she

would be an amazing host of the show. But you know what, though Rue is the host, and Ru really doesn't judge matter what Michelle says, Rue doesn't say ship. Rue makes decisions based on what everyone around him says,

and mostly Michelle the only time. And yeah, even like I'm trying to think of the last critical moment, like critical room moment that she's like really critiqued someone, and all I can think of is like Aja during the Studio fifty four Challenge and All Stars three, where it was like, you know, the seventies weren't that long ago, which we've established to be false. But that was even

going off of that was piggybacking off of something Michelle said. Yeah, I mean even this even this year, she said about Aquaria, it's very exciting, she's very exciting. Her drag is very future forward, and that was like something that you never hear like you never hear Rugo out of her way to be like except with you a Hamasaki deally departed. She did say a couple of times she could really take a cue from the Pageant girls about learning how

to take her critique. Absolutely, I mean that was probably like you was fine and like, you know, she didn't. You know, obviously she made some huge missteps in this challenge, but like her biggest problem was that she talked back all the time. Yeah, it was weird. Yeah, I don't know if that's an edit necessarily could be, but like some of the stuff is it's like okay, but the judges were marking on it. Yeah, right, and everyone I think Ross this week was like she always has a

clop back Carson. Carson said that Ross wasn't there, um, and then Michelle confirmed She's like it's always a clop back. Um. I love Niko Tortorella's suit. That was fun. That was a really good suit of Grid. The white the white grids. Yeah, I was like, oh my god, where do you think

you got that? Oh? Shops, top shops, probably something really fancy. Yeah, and people, um, so you do we have any good feelings about her do we feel kind of whatever, I feel like she could have done more well we I mean you and I like had a blast making fun of how truly like insane, balls to the wall insane. Her interviews have been um before the show, I don't know. She like she was giving you some cool, like Asian inspired looks that were that like are distinct from other

Asian queens on the show. She was giving you very elevated like dourger empress fish and like that was cool. Like as a Chinese person, I was like, that is really cool to see. Actually, like we haven't had a fully Chinese queen, which is different like of course from like Kim she a Korean queen. References are different, the aesthetics are different. Um, obviously you was a very different

queen from Kim she. I thought it was cool to see some like cheap how motifs, but like I didn't think she had what it took to stay any longer. I don't know. I think probably I'm looking at this list now, especially this year. It's such a competitive year. Like I was saying, like Calorie, even like in a weeker season, she would have done better totally, but like you can say that like comparatively, she is, like she was positioned just like you know, the Sasha Bell or

Magnolia Crawford of her season. She didn't come with the materials to win, you know what I mean, Like that was her best drag outfit, right, Like was that body suit which maybe somewhere else is is like best drag. But mean, while she's very talented, you know she's good. Yeah,

she's she's certainly good queen. I mean, it's just it's just like we were saying, it's tough to look at the list and say that's a competitive one, right, And actually, you know, maybe her being an Albuquerque based queen is different, Like she has different resources than all these l A and New York and Chicago based queens. Even the Southern queens, I feel like, might be more like they can pick up a rhinestone thing like from the store because all

all the women are jimming it or something. I don't know, I'm talking out of my ass, but but yeah, I mean it's a strong roster. It's you know, it's so strong. And actually like this the strong queens are kind of surprising me. Like I would never have thought that Cameron was capable of that I just obviously I don't know a lot about her because I really wrote her off.

But then that runway was good. That runway was like from it reminded me of um whenever Trinity Cabonet would struggle in the challenges, but then hit the runaway and something years like that's what Like that bird runaway. The feathers runaway for Cameron was like pretty awesome and even like for a second I was like, oh, that's too similar to Eureka's. But Eureka was getting you goth, but Cameron was giving you villain. She was giving you like

literal vulture, yes, like fucking Charlie's in Snow and the Huntsmen. Yeah, No, she was giving you vulture, and Eureka was giving you kind of like yeah, I can't be raven like hunted House. Yeah moment right. I loved, I loved. I thought, I kind of think you had the best look of the night. I think that Eureka had the best look of the night. Yes, I just think the camera was not far behind, right, No, I agree, most of the looks were great. Was lucky

because she was literally saved by it. Although I didn't know that Mayhem was going to be in the bottom because I didn't care for her dress, but her eyes were great and her makeup looks great. Whatever, Like she

she's she's an amazing queen. It's just like the choices in this episode were so weird, like the choice to just totally faded to the back of the commercial and don't say anything or do anything right right, right, Um, here's the thought, Like, because you and I are both kind of disappointed with the Best Drag runway from last week, I just think it's yes, some of them just like

obviously didn't show do the assignment. But I'm saying, like, like it's weird that like all their best drag looks like when there's no hard theme applied, that like they kind of stumble and it's actually not probably not their best, yeah, but when there's this theme of like feathers, I thought so many of the looks this week were amazing, and it's like, oh, that would have been your best drag

had not been for this theme, right. I mean Asia O'Hara's outfit like this week, I love, I loved, I loved, I really loved it, and I loved it so much more than what she did for Best Drag because to me, Asia O'Hara, I've been not super on born with her the first few weeks because it feels so gaudy to me, it's so pageant, Like her best drag was so much the color, the like makeup, the like I don't know, the hair, like it was just right is so passionate

to me. The fact that it was a ballroom dress like someone who was doing the like talent and a pageant, and I was just like not into it. But now in this episode, like she got creative. And then when you see her looks outside of the show, like on Instagram and like what she wore in like the conversation with Sasha Valore, like she's got cool stuff. It's just

like her wigs are great. Yeah, Like I don't know, I just from what she's presented in the Company Titian besides this episode, when you put that up against what she's presented outside of the show, I'm like, it feels like we're not seeing your best best best Yeah yeah, yeah, because I do. I do like her as of this episode, got it, I'm still not totally sold. Like the dress I was dress was great. I was I was telling you I was frustrated that, like the judges were like

going gaga over this tweetie bird reference. They're like the reference, the reference. But it's like, Okay, well Monique gave you a cookie monster thing and you guys like didn't batter fucking eye. Yeah, I mean my thing. Um, I'm just like griping about I totally agree with you. I mean, it was weird. It's weird how much Monique is just getting kind of brushed aside this episode. She got a lot of focus, but I don't know, like I think

that Monique is definitely one of the better ones. Yeah, She's so great to watch, and it's weird to see her getting kind of an iffy edit yeah, where you're not really sure where this is gonna go, Like did the show really think we were going to go for Like, oh, Monique is really pushy in the director thing. I was like, I don't know if she's pushy. I just think she's helping. She's directing alongside Michelle and Carson because she's the team leader and like she came up with the stuff. Sure.

I mean, I think some of the moments can read its Micromanergy, like when I'm like when Mayhem was up. I don't know, Mayhem was lost, ma what Mahem was lost? And like Monique was trying to give her like something to use, but like it just looks like it's such an easy thing to be, like, um, look pointing at Monique,

she's being real micromanergy. Yeah, it's really it's weird. It's weird. Also, like I feel like they're justice easily was a narrative of like Monique saying to camera, Mayhem is doing nothing because like the whole episode, Mayhem was, And also that would have served the narrative better too because she ends up in the bottom too. I just think they didn't get that, like sort of like talking a head from Mayhem. Maybe that came came forward about why she's being so quiet.

I feel like we have to kind of guess that it was because she got chosen late, but she was shutting down from the beginning and you didn't really understand

why she was like catatonic. Yeah, I think it would have been nice to hear about that and for them to push that narrative instead of this Monique is bossy narrative totally because really all they were trying to do and even Asia said Monique is of really effectively running her team when they were putting their makeup on, and so for them to then it turn it into like Monique's being too much. I thought was weird. I was like, yeah, but if you're not going to do anything, you're gonna

end up in the bottom two. And then so Mayhem did good things. She fucking killed the lip sync. Oh yeah, although like there was a second where like until the guitar became too much on Hua, Like I was like, oh, like, this isn't a total Like I thought it was pretty done deal from the beginning when she lifted her head up and started the whole song, I mean she was and then when she started plucking feathers up, I was like, her eyes were perfect, so good for it. And what

a great song, celebrity skin. It was a great song. It was a great week for guest judges. I thought Nico was very engaged, and I thought Courtney Love gave us great sound bites. Literally she goes she wasn't man, I know. I love Courtney Love's voice. Now she's just like so sleepy, so funny. We did see the resurrection of Eureka this week, yes, which is great. She was so funny in the challenge. One of the best runways we've seen. I love that runway. Yeah, and she was

funny in the challenge. Yeah, girl, we know that is like Michelle was right like that. The fact that she could deliver that line and make it funny and memorable is great. And Cracker was great. Crackers like really really really coasting in a lot of like goodwill, good work. Yeah, Cracker was not killing it on the runway though. Yeah, I just thought it could have been exciting and it wasn't exciting. I like literally don't remember what she even wore. Um,

she had she did the whole green blue thing. It was a dedication her best friend who passed away. Remember that she's like a dark wig on she was doing And her voiceover during the runway was like, I'm not doing a character this week. But the story behind this look is that, um, the day after my best friend passed away, a green and blue bird like landed on my window, like made a nest on my window, and I took that and this is to them. Yeah, I

guess the look itself just isn't standing out to me. Sure, And and this is the thing I was thinking about this today, like I don't buy crackers. Whole self branding think of like I'm crazy. It's like, no, you're actually really polished and you always have. You're always very put together. Like,

don't say you're crazy if you're not. I think the bar beyond Bath Salts thing is like is like a miss brand because that's like, that's what I'm saying, not you're not out of control, You're actually really smart and measured. And she's like, yeah, Bob with my dragon mother and she goes funny runs in the family. But like there's some other comment she made where she was like, yeah, I'm crazy, but it's like, no, you're It's fine that

you're not crazy because you're good. And unless there's something we don't know, I mean we've seen I mean we've seen her alive, like she's she's not crazy, Like that's not the narrative, and I don't know bottom two for that maybe miss Cracker. Like my instagram of my Instagram with me with my str ham that I made this weekend, she liked it. It was like, I think she follows you too. I think she follows us. Becamember. We saw her one night and like like we both went up

on stage or something, and like her her publicity. I know that it was like her manager. Her manager was like yeah, and it was like oh yeah, and we were like yeah, we run this sketch group or something or like we were like yeah, yeah. And this was like years. I remember the first time we saw Cracker. I never forgot her. Yeah, and then she and then yeah. Her manager was like put us in touch and probably ran her social media at the time and like followed

us on Twitter on Instagram. So, um, we love Cracker. Yeah, Cracker. She kind of like was in the back of the narrative this episode. Um, but speaking of stepping to the front of the narrative, I think we should probably talk about Dusty. Dusty. I know that was like it was I mean, yeah, like I've been through this. I've been through this kind of crazy week with my parents where it was just like just old wounds sort of reopened um around to uh me being gay, and like we

haven't really made progress. But it's it's okay. This isn't to vilify them. It's just like we there's still a lot of middle ground that we have to cover in terms of like understanding where the other person's the other side is coming from. But and I like, I am very much in the zone of like wow, it's very specifically because they're immigrants and it's part of the reason why.

But I'm like, god, most white families, um, you know, already have this leg up where it's like culturally, it's like there's there's more common ground to go off of, and like this is so unique to me, and like blah blah blah blah blah is being very solve cistic

about it. But then to see Dusty like talk about this whole thing was so emotional and I was like, oh, this is obviously not exactly what I went through, but like quite similar, quite similar, Like I went to a fucking conversion therapist and like my parents are like like my dad, Yeah. The way I came out for the first time was like my parents found something on the computer. And as soon as Duchy said that, I was like,

oh my god, I was like already on board. I was already like wow, I already related to this so hard. And then to hear like the parents reaction and then the conversion therapy and that fucking pastor, I was like Jesus, it really really really really painted the image. It was so so well rendered and so well described and communicated, and I and it like what I got so emotional. I texted you as like I was like, holy sh it,

Dusty this week and you don't say anything else. I was like, okay, but just so like you know, tist. I was surprised by what I saw. Yeah. I thought it was going to be like a basic emotional breakthrough, like in terms of her drag or something. But it was that, and it was that, and it was because I I saw, like when Blair was talking about how close she is with her mom, which is great, which is beautiful, and I cut to Dusty. Yeah, and they cut to Dusty who was like looking over and like

that piqued his interest. But I love the Dusty that. The Dusty's takeaway wasn't bitterness. It was I'm really happy to see people like Blair have supportive families. It wasn't like, well, Blair's advantage because she has a supportive family. It's like, no, this actually is good and it makes me happy and like that because I oftentimes will come away with like a bitterness where I see very like beautifully open, supportive families and I'm like, god, damn I don't have that.

I never will um, but to have to see Dusty like walk away from that and be like that's really beautiful, it was like really powerful for me. So yeah, I and you know, I've read Dusty for filth. But like but like now, like I kind of I mean, like I don't have to be the biggest fan of her drag, but like as a person, I'm like, oh, thank you for like showing me this, thank you for this. I'm grateful that the show is able to show me the side of her. I mean seconds later, the runway was

like a five. Sure I thought I thought everyone I I thought everyone was great this run right, that that's just me I was. I don't know. There was just like too much like whatever was hanging friend down from Dusty's arms. I was like, it just seems too much to me. She was good at the challenge. She was doing like a poison ivy fish. She had red hair. I liked it. I was into it. It was different. Wasn't like it was at again. It was a lot of like whites and blacks and like your standard colors.

But like I I appreciate when people like went all out with like the colors of the feathers or when all in with the concept. I actually really kind of liked the Vixens runway look this time. It was good. I liked the way like she was working on the runway totally. Um, I liked uh. I pretty much liked to tell I thought it was a fully executed concept and like sort of an ad to c on the theme,

you know what I mean. Yeah, the theme was feathers, but you know, she didn't come out there and do a predictable feathered look like someone saying Blair, did you know she was? She's praised her on the runway, but I think that has a lot to do with her face because she looked beautiful on her way because her dress was not all that Like, if I'm looking at the Vixen's dress and Blair's dress, I think the Vixens dress was more impressive. Actually sure, it was very well

archnstructured in architecture. Um, let's talk about the Vixen since we're talking about her. Listen, the Vixen has been she she's bossing it up and it's by her own volition, and like she she's very deliberately doing and behaving in this way and it's not good or bad. It's just very late. She's confrontational. She's confrontational, but like it gets to the point where it's caustic, like she's she's she's like getting the fear and Aquaria's eyes out. She's like

really trying to freak Aquary out. No, she's trying to intimidate her, and she knows it, and she cops to it in this episode, and she even says repeatedly like well, I can get to you, so I'm going to to the point where Aquaria leaves the room, and then the other queens tell her like maybe this is not necessary, right, and she's like, no, actually it is, and it's just it's just a worldview that is like okay, buch, if

that's what you want. I mean, you can choose to take the ribbing that all the queens give each other. And somebody said something about your wig that you borrowed for your best drag. If you want to take that and really attack based on that critique, you can do it that way. But you can also take it as just like yeah, girl, like you didn't have your own wig for your best drag, Look like it's what you're

worthy of. Being read for it exactly, and it's like, okay, well if you if you're if you want to dish out all this like a grow like learn to take it, dude. Like you know what's funny too, is it's just like Aquary was like, you didn't use your own wig for best drag and then Vixen goes, well, actually I did have my own wig for it, and then she was like so what, and then I wanted to be like, what do you mean so what? Then the answer is then why didn't you? And then Monique was like, oh,

the Vixen just shut a querry up. I was like, that's what I saw. It's like the Vixen's being like painted into this corner where she doesn't really know what to say. I mean it looked like someone like reading appropriately and then someone respond responding back like really you like it was just like it was like I don't know, you know, and like it wasn't it was not anger. It's just like it's just like it's reactionary to the point where it's like unnecessary. It's like, um, it's like

what it's like, what about is um? You know? It's like when people are like it's it's what about its M, which is like reminiscent of like Soviet Russia and Trump, where it's like you criticize someone and they're like, well what about this thing? And like that is literally the definition of what about is M. I'm not saying Vixen is really doing that, but she's just like that's not true, Like she's completely discounting what you're saying with no with

nothing to back in up there there wasn't. I think the reason why it seemed like Aquaria was shut up is because like there was nothing to say back. It just wasn't like you know, and then at a certain point it was just the Vixen being like a bully being and just getting in someone's face and being like, oh yeah, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna intimidate you until you leave. And then she did, so she got what

she wanted. But luckily, um, you know, I mean, look, the Vixen backed it up for me this week, like like THEO was good and she was great in the challenge. She was great in the ones, but she she didn't lose the challenge, you know what I mean, Like she didn't have that much of a part. Whatever. I just thought her wearing the sandwich burn being like this doomsday person was like really funny. I think we can get used to seeing the Vixen. That's definitely they're going to

keep her around. I think six more weeks at least, to be honest, Like, I think probably like going to stay around. And I think it will end with an Aquaria Vixen lip sync, not necessarily Tracker. I think that's over. That's not going to stick for very long. I just think it's over. I mean, like I don't I don't think people care anymore because now I think Cracker is going to be like, oh, people think I'm copying her.

I'm gonna do the opposite things she does every single week. Sure, well, we can say that Cracker versus Aquaria was the precursor to Aquary Versus Vixen. Yeah, the scene for that. Without that, you didn't have the other. Um, I just I don't know.

Of course, Aquaria Versus Vixen, Like that's a tough one because it's like you it's it's a tough one because it could potentially become tough like socially, you know what I mean, Like you have this like really young, like white cis sort of like attractive, like sort of probably wealthy, has like a lot of means because of the Instagram following everything. The kid white gay kid from New York going up against this like woke protests south side of Chicago.

Someone who's more of a performance queen like comes from Dragon that area. Like, So to see those two things in conflict, that's hard. It's disappointed, you know, I don't. I don't necessarily I'm not looking forward to that. Yeah, well, I mean, I mean it's it might be worthwhile to just observe ye as all of those things are. I mean, you wish they didn't happen, but right, I also Aquarius, look this this um this this runway was I thought it was a really nice, strong choice. You just never

can see it winning. I know Aquari is always like it's always great, but it's never like it's never like, you know what Eureka came out in this week. I did love her best drug. That was great, Like the concentric nose rings was gorgeous. But then I was watching um. I was watching uh tutor boot um or Fashion photo review, which they really should just call it tutoro um. But they Raven was like I'm so tired of the two

big nose rings. Like apparently it's been a fan. Sometimes Raven just says bullsht and I'm like, shut up, Raven. Raven like has such a chip on her shoulder, like she she hates aciually she used to hate Bob like she like, It's just I don't think ravens like a great person. Well I don't here. First, I guess I like her on the show, but um, you know, alright, so who I have left here is Monique Money and Blair. You know Monique. I thought she looked amazing on the

Runway and was good in her challenge. I guess, like I guess, to be honest with you, you have to kind of assess like what the team did because she was the team leader and that commercial was not good, was bad, So it was kind of a little bit

of she got lucky by not being judged on the runway. Sure, but it just sucks because I mean, like last week was absolutely this weird hit job, and now it's like, oh, then to have the letter get this week, to have that be confirmed by like, oh, she actually didn't do well, it's time. It's like it sucks because it's like, oh well those other those other times don't counts. House visitors are house visitors, house guests, so funny. I thought it was so funny. Also, these huge big like what is

going on with that? I don't know, but she seems to think that they're and the judges think it's funny, so sure, why not? But she those are recurring breasts. Recurring breasts talk about money, so you have an interesting take. You think money stock is plumbing in a little bit. Yeah. I was talking to a friend of the show, friend of the pond, Sam Schlasts, and we're both like, okay, she's coming up with the same like bob wigs, every

does seem very uh repeir editive. She gives you the kind of short wig every time shirt wig, you know, glittery like sequined rhinestone thing like two red looks in a row. Her best drive was her feather look was retted to I believe. And and if you look back on the sponge dress, like some of the execution, the execution was not all the way there. Well, I like the sponge dress because I think it was interesting to watch.

If you're interesting, you go a long way with me, at least when it comes to the looks, but like Monee, her dress this time was just not interesting. It's not interesting. Didn't try to win. And I'm saying and the challenge to like I get that she was like leading the charge, but like she she got lost by like Asia, by all these other people, by Aquaria and definitely not Hua.

But you know it's like, also, the thing is, like these people who do the voiceovers are like the narrators, um, they don't know how to make those exciting at all. Talk to the people, talk of the people, make it funny. That's why it was great that Blair's team didn't really have an area until the very end, where it's like it starts with like an anecdotal thing of like she's just walking down the street, like it was a narrative

until boom, let's do voice over. I have to be honest, I was a little surprised to see Blair in the top three. I didn't think she was that good in the challenge. I mean, maybe her team was the best and she was the leader, and so that's why she got there. But she was just kind of like acting her part well you know what I mean. It wasn't like a winning totally. But she was like fun opposite Eurekan and Cracker being like, oh my god, you know,

like that was fun. It was definitely fun. And I just thought, like, I don't know, it just it was bizarre to me to see her in the in the tippy tippy two yeah, and the dresses. It was fine. Um. And then finally we have oh no, that's Blair. That was Blair. That was it. I mean, so we have Asia o'harrowin the week. Um, we had Mayhem and yuhah in the bottom three Mayhem slaves bottom two you with that lip sync? Um, And and now where do you

think we stand? It's been shaking up a little bit because truly, like we thought Mayhem was a front runner. Maybe well this is I mean, like I've said this about a lot of seasons like seven, especially um and even nine, but like this is like not a filler queen insight because Cameron Stock rose way up for me. Yeah, it's pretty even, It's really even, and there's still like

twelve queen. There's like eleven queens left. You have to think about, like if they're gonna be eliminated for simple things, then what is this weakness of every queen for me, Mayhem, I think she just might not be like a superstar. She's not a performance you know what, She's not gonna

like hold your attention at a show. Yeah to me, she's not like screaming out you know, she doesn't grab your attention, you know the way that someone like Ulyssa do K does are like you know, any of the like stars of the show, like even like people you remember like Liganda, you know, they get your attention. That's what makes you a star on one of these shows. And Mayhem is kind of just like good at what she does and we know where she comes from. But if you if you put Detox next to Mayhem, they

have would fade away. So then you've got Dusty, who again might just might not have the star quality. But I think like Blair is interesting. I think Cameron can't act as performer, will get get get eliminated for that. Vixen I think is someone that like might have some like trouble later later later on like just really bringing the looks. I think the looks are going to be something also like you get this is she's super dexterous and performance like in terms of acting like she gonna

give you the same thing every time. I'm sure she can turn an incredible lipsen, but you know, and then miss Crackers. She's pretty amazing all around. Monet, Like maybe isn't showing us what she can really do. Aquaria, maybe performance will be an issue, like solid it like she was great and was great in this challenge on a performance level, and she was fun in the and the lip sync um extravaganza on episode two, Like she's I

don't think she's like a bad performer. And I came into this season being like Aquaria of God, like she's just an Instagram queen. I'm sure she's pretty good. She's a performer. She like does she does. She's a solid live queen. Um, who do you think is out next week? That's tough, Um, I could see. I mean like Monique is just like skating down the middle and I'm worried for her. Um, but I can also see honestly, I mean, Camon Spin skating down the middle to even after this week.

So I don't know. I'm saying, it's like we have eleven eleven evenly matched queens and like that's that's huge, Like it doesn't actually whittle down to like an even field until like, no, we're gonna be sad to see people go. Yeah, we are, I would say right now. Leading the charge for probably going to be out is probably Cameron only because we saw a big weakness here, which is that she's not really like a super performer in terms of acting, and she's not gonna make it.

She's not gonna make it past snatch game. I don't think, no, I don't think we'll see a snatch game. That's that's where we might not even see snatch game from some people that would kill it. Oh yeah, I hope they hope they do it for more people, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, I think I hope they do it earlier. I hope we see it with eight people or maybe even nine. Yes, okay, so Matt, you want to end up end with a complicated feelings

on this? Yes, um sure, Okay, great, I can start to like, okay, great, here you go. This is bond yangs. I have complicated feelings on this, and as time starts now, I have complicated feelings on when the show still goes on even when RuPaul is clearly sick. What the hell was going on this week? I have complicated feelings about RuPaul not being in tiptop shape. I know that she takes care of herself very well. She hikes every morning,

she meditates for hours every single day. If RuPaul is sick, if RuPaul cannot speak, if she's suffering as she's talking, Um, I say, call off the call off the day. You know, everyone deserves a sick day right now. And then even Mama ru have complicated feelings on the show, trying to vary Um, you know very uh, just overtly cover up the fact that he's sick and like eight R ring and dubbing over his voice. Um. In the mini challenge, and God, that main stage was really tough to watch Ruis.

Towards the end, she was really withering. So Ru, I hope, I'm sure this was months ago, but I hope you feel better. And that's one minute listen. Um. I thought it was so weird, too, so distracting that she was not feeling well. I'm actually not feeling well right now. And I said to Bow, and ru Is like acting how I feel right now. Ibout a lot of better dull people. All right, I'm ready, Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't have complicated feelings about this. His time starts now.

I have complicated feelings of when they picked the team's because for a show that's supposed to facilitate like positive vibes and never rething and inclusion, it's like, why would you feature something that's so like evokes a painful memory for a lot of people, which is like being picked last. Like honestly, every time some queen gets picked last, it just makes me feel like, oh, this is a juvenile part of the show that is only there to exacerbate

drama that we don't necessarily need. Like Project Runway, they do this thing where they pull um, they pull like stuff out of a bag, like, oh, the bag is here, Like now we know the team is gonna be randomly chosen because like, I don't know, it's just more respect. I just don't know if we need it. I think we could randomly assort the team's um and you'd still be able to get the dramatic parents that you want because you go back and produce it, like you could

rig it a little bit whatever. But having them pick is mean and it reminds me of a bad time. So I've complicated things about that thank you. That's one minute. That was gorgeous. Man, thank you. I totally agree with you, and I didn't really thought of it. This is the second week in a rew they did it, and I was like, and where it's clearly affecting people's moods and mayhem, I think it dictates did the whole her whole day and Eurik always picked last last week too. Yeah, and

then it started a whole chain of events there. I don't know. I guess that then it does get them

worked up an emotional so sure, why not. But I just feel like it's an emotional terrorism that I don't know, that very specific, very specific to people being gay, and it really resonates with people who like probably stood around in gym class their whole life long or picked glass for being here, yeah, I mean like for being effeminate or being not good at sports like that was like always like an yeah, it's anyway, I have coming things about that. Well, okay, well then we hope you guys

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