Look man, oh I see you? Why and look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, Dan Dong lost cultures calling my sister on the chat. My sister has entered the chat. You look, you still have the same glow. The same sun casts on you from the island. I might have done a shirtless hike before today. Oh my god, I missed today. It's actually really culture number eight. It's dare you. I meant to say Griffith. I actually knew was Griffith as soon as the word Griffin left my mouth.
It wasn't. I screwed up. I messed up? Can I actually wanted to reveal this to the readers. So Bow and Yang famously came to visit me in Los Angeles after my breakup last year, and he came to my aid and you U K got right on a plane like us, My sister and the other half of my heart was so happy to was not an inconvenience for me. I had to be there. And you got here during one of your breaks from SNL famous sketch comedy program
More on that in a second. And you get here and we're having several days of fun, except one day, you say, and I brought you to Griffith, and I sort of showed you Griffith. We hiked Griffith, and one day you say to me, I think I'm just gonna chill today. I just like hang out. I was like, okay, so I go forth. No, no, no, we both needed a day. I think we both with a mutually agreed upon day, like separate day, which is so healthy of us. Yeah.
And then we truly had the same idea. Because I'm sort of hiking Griffith, I look a hundred yards in front of me, and it could have been no one else's calves, but the iconic calves of one Bowen Yang stomping the yard, getting the steps, climbing the heights of Griffith. And I ran to them and I said, our break is over. I'm hiking with you a game. And I said, oh my god, is this real? Is this you? And I think that's just the way the world is telling
us that we cannot be apart for too long. No, No, even though we create the distance for a good reason, like magnetic polls, we know codependency. Okay, we've seen it. We've seen it up close in person. Michelle Obama, Hey clown, Jester, you have done it again, constantly raising the circus and doing it foolish. So get this, get us. This is probably going to be my favorite episode we've ever done.
Oh my god, I agree. I agree with you that it's going to be your favorite episode that we've ever done. In my favorite episode we've ever done. This has been a long time coming. This is pretty This is this is written in the start. It was written in the stars. As I eat the show, once said, and I will say this two episodes into schmigadon a show that my sister wrote for. I come on, well, you know for the show, you know, like that the kind of the
entry points, you know, writer's room, what isfting? I'm just I'm just I'm just demystifying this for for the reader. I'm just letting you know that, like, how perfect is it that it was my first post escinal writer's room for it to be a show that that was that is about, you know, Oscars and Hammerstein music or that era of movie musical Oscar No. I literally just woke up from a nap. Don't do this. It's true. I facetimes you right before, and you had the blinders on
you sleep with those things. I can I tell you my circadians are fucked ever since I've worked at Saturday Night Live a sketch program. More on that later. Circadian rhythm, such a sort of I love the way that sounds Circadian rhythm. Something about those words, the blink fields itself Circadians. It's one of those. Anyway, I need that to sleep now because I need these have like patting on them that really pressed down on your on your sort of orbital bones and your and your brow bones in a
way that really relaxes you. Immediately. Highly recommend um anyway wants to see you wearing them. What I was gonna say was that this year we're both getting our first episode credits. We are getting our first episode credits because My Force comes out on September two, and Mama you, I guess, I guess this your what episode did you write of? Schmickadoon One of the best shows I've seen recently,
One of the best shows I've seen. O Word episode three with Julie Klausner, wonderful one icon and friend of the show. In Front of the show um Spika Units on Apple TV plus stars our guests, keeping Michael Key Christian Shanna with Alan coming, Fred Armison and Harada. So many times when I saw Anne Harad, I put I fell off my chair onto my whole. I was like, this is this is how you know the casting director got it. They were like, the show genius, genius casting,
I mean tells you. We got to give it up to tell z. Come on, Bernie, tells on Bernie, it's act. Come on. But first and foremost, it is a perfect showcase in vehicle for our guest. You know her from Saturday Night Live. She's one of the best to ever do it. What I really I was talking. I was talking to Suitie the other day. I was like, one of the best to ever do and one of the best to ever do it. I rarely get star struck. How often do you and I quote Terzanos? How oft
do you and I quote Arizona? Almost weekly? Almost weekly? We want we watched it. We did a watch party for Terrizanos the other day. We were just like, this is this is when we all tend great anyway, We're enough of this. Let's bring I mean, how many please welcome into your ears? Come on, cly Strong. Finally, that was so hard to be quiet through all of that, did you notice I was doing sign language applause? Yeah, that is applause. That's no more silence. You're in. You're
in the zoom. Here we are, I am in. I have missed Griffin. I'm here. I'm so happy. Oh my god, we're so happy to have you. I literally you're my favorite. I fucking love you. I'm upset, honestly, Like it was like when Bowen got first got the job at US and Ellen study first got the job at US, and I was like, Cesily, what's what's your what did you have to know everything? And I said the same thing to my dog about by women's suit. That's who I talked to you. I mean, I can't believe it's taken
this lung to do this. The fate, I can't leave it. But this is a worthwhile occasion. I needed to wait until you were a consulting producer. Yeah, until got to that level, until I was a consulting producer. And I got an eyemask with padding on it and yes for you to have We're coming out, and we forgot to mention the damn book. Um, oh my god, Jesus, this will all be okay. In the end. It's it's it's really, I mean it's I love that you just called it. This will all be okay in the end. Wait, what
is no? The title is this will all be over soon? No? Oh my god, are you kidding? I love it. I've been carrying it. I've been reading. I've been reading it so diligently. You got it more, this will all be okay kind of this will this will be soon. You can't. Oh my god, you can't. That's the yeah, that's the sequels, that's you can't. Oh my god, this will all be you know a thing. And at some point, Griffin, what did I do? What did I do last last week? I did this? I funked up a name. I really
got to get my head checked or something. My favorite thing is when people mess up names, but they're strong and wrong about it, Like Sudie Green is the best with this. She said to me, what did she say? She you know Chris Kulefer from Glee. One time she just was said so many times Chris Koffner. She was like, Chris Koffner, you know Chris Koffner. And then she said Chris Christie Brinkley when she meant to talk about Christine Baranski, and so she's just like a fount of that. So
maybe you're just catching the bug bow. My roommate and guy husband, Kevin very much that way. I like to think of it as like a Midwest mom thing. He also was like, tell them, I say him, Sure, tell them you say hi on the podcast. I'll start with that now where I am doing it. But like one time I was making lentil soup and he was like, and you're making a gentle soup, Papa, can you make me? Yes, Papa, can you legon me? Ship? Yeah? Well you know what,
I just think I must be forgiven. I demand forgiveness because the snap, which I timed to end minutes before this started, when I've had some red wine, eight pm to me is like midnight. We actually say I have a Moscow mule, And right I was going to ask, but I didn't want to, you know, bring up anything personal. Right, well, this could be anything. I mean, I have I have a delivery, this is this is okay, Okay, said, well, that's a plastic alcoholic maybe something I don't know, not
for me, for the girls out there, alcoholic. Fuck yeah, I'm not that's not for me either, know what what what red? Why are you drinking? I'm drinking? So I have, um, I get cases of red Burgundy, sent Burgundy. This is Elgin Selections. Yeah. I used to belong to a wine club and I felt that it was and I was. It really encouraged me to drink a lot of it, and then all of a sudden, you have so much right now. But I've gone beyond the wine club and I just ordered the cases. But I do love red Burgundy.
M how's it hitting you tonight? What's what's it doing for you? You know, it's nice. I'm feeling a little silly. I think I have t mj oh no, what is that? Like? Is that like pre locked draw? What is that? I think? Who could know? I just know that it was I was my jaws hurting me. Well, you know how much can you open? Said jaw? Why don't you show us? Why don't you? But it's in here? Ah, you know, doing like the like you know kind of pops. Oh no, oh, shoot,
you know what. That's been happening to me lately too, and I just it. I need to come out of the shadows and say that it's been happening to me, because it happens, and I get so frightened and I'm like, oh my jaws literally coming off the hinges that I'm too afraid to tell anybody. And that's the first thing you need to do in order to make the situation. You know, I tell everybody because I assume it's cancer, right any time, it's got to be the worst thing.
You know. What's interesting about opening mouths. I had a singing teacher in our in like college. I took like a voice lessons for two semesters, and he said to me one time, you know, men when they sing don't have to open up their mouths as big as women. And I was like, is that true? And he was like, yes, because male resonators are different. I was like, I don't. I think you're just isn't a bunch of words. But like he was like, when you sing, you shouldn't have
to open your mouth very wide. You actually very you don't have to. But women it's different. And I was like, because we have to flirt at the same time, and you flirt by showing your damned tonsils that dangly thing. Yeah, but I also think that my call the cathedral. It's my cathedral dolling. Yeah, Frank Bannett, you've been using your cathedral quite a bit on the Apple Plus TV show. Oh that was very good. We finally got to it. Wait, I have to say now two episodes are out so far,
and I'm obsessed with it. Everything about it. I love like I love the ensembles, the way that they shoot the scenes like, I love like the long shots of that don't cut away. I love that we're just seeing performance. I love the singing live like, because if it's not live, it's like fake. Really well, is it singing live? Yes? Yeah, but is it la misstyle where you you all have
an earwig in or we all have earwigs. I think there was only one part that I've done so far that I know wasn't live, and that was the very end of Enjoy the Ride because we were in the tunnel and they were like these three big men pulling us and so it was like you know, and splashing water, so we couldn't record that sounds live. Yeah, so is that the end of episode two. That's the end of episode two where you sort of go into the tunnel of Love with and that's how we get through the
Tunnel of Love these men are movie magic and waiters. Yeah, movie magic, bow, movie magic. Well, it really is. I mean that's the whole point, right in, like the direction, like Barry Standenfeld is a genius, and that long shot specifically that really hit me was I think it was in the pilot when Aaron when um, Danny Bailey sings to Cecily Can't Be Tamed or or that song He's so good in the beginning. It's still long, long taken, like people are loving it. I'm loving that. He on
on the internet. Oh yeah, it's it's it's been there. I mean ever since Greece slot that's when I think next to normal, next tom Yes, next to normal. I had not seen next to normal. And actually when I did end up seeing next to normal, um, he wasn't in it. He had moved on. You know people and people move on, they move on, they do um, but he had gone. And I was so bummed because I remember seeing him on the Tony Awards and I was like, who is that. He's good and hot, he's good, he's great,
he's great, he's great. Dove Cameron, what a legend? Name another legend, a freaking legend. What's her deal? Does. I mean, she's she's sort of like unreal. I mean, I don't know. She's kind of like you know how you meet some people and you're like, I'll never be cool enough to understand your world. That that's tough to me. I think she's just so. I mean, it's like Devil asked me, like when we were at doing the premiere parties and it was like, what are you gonna wear? Are you
going to change when we go to Allen's? And I was like, am I going to change? I barely got this look together home and this stays on me. And then she's like wearing a leather pants and jacket ensemble. And then she was like, what are you going to wear to your party? And I was like, I don't even know. I can't tell you, Dove, I can't tell you. My favorite Dove camera moment is when she was doing this is a deep dive, but she was doing Hair
Spray Live. I loved her and I love Hair Spray Live, and I mean ambermon Tussel is a part for Legends Only right day and I did see the original broad by cast with Laurel Bell Bundy and the High Harmony was launching. I mean, I had chills. I was the gayest little kid there and I was crying when I heard the high harmony and you can't stop to be at my mother. My mother turned to me and she was like, why are you crying? It's a happy song. And I was like, I can't tell you now how
gay I am, like, but that's why. But anyway, she played everyone Tustle in the Hair Spray live and there was a part where I don't know, I think it was on Jennifer Hudson's Instagram, like Jennifer Hudson was recording Dove singing and you just hear Jennifer screaming in the back, singing Dove, damn du sing, screaming at her the words sing. And I was just like, can you imagine Jennifer Hudson screaming the words sing at you name being Dove? And
how are these parties? Tell us? Oh, they were so great. We missed to you, We miss our consulting producer. But you do what you have to do. I know I'm out of town. I think it'm busy. I feel like I'm in purgatory right now. I'm neither I'm neither here nor there on on my coasts, which sounds so elitist of me, But I feel like nothing's happening in my world. Well,
I think that's not true. I think abject falsity. I'm just saying there's things happening, obviously, but I'm like, I I feel like I'm away from the action, and I've kind of just been like, there's not that much action. And we had two parties. You threw one, I threw one. That's right. I couldn't come in because you invited me, and I was like, I think I saw the email and I was like, well, I can't go, but I am going to see you soon. For what it was,
what is it called? This is all gonna this is all gonna be okay, This is all gonna be okay, and we know it before we know it. This is this is the this is the perfect. We've slipped into some perfect. Can we call it guerrilla marketing or whatever? It's like, this is please as a gorilla, I say, here's how your here's how your market. I feel like, now no one listening, We'll forget the title. This will all be over soon, coming in August, come to Great
Barrington in the Berkshires. If you want to see me Cecily Heidi Gardner have a conversation about this beautiful, beautiful book. I know, and I'm going to try to talk about the book and not you two, and how wonderful it is that you're both doing this. It's such a testament to the who both of you are. Are so wonderful, you know. I don't know if the people out there know this, but you don't get paid money for those things, and that's just a real labor of love, a friend
being a friend, and it's so kind. What day is? What day is it? August seven? Where we're coming up? I want to go come. I'm going to be in Calm. I would love nothing more than Matt. I'm gonna I'm gonna drive up. You wanna want to share a car and we can, let's do it. I love that. And I'm gonna have a cocktailer three because I or a red or a red Burgundy. I just saw Heidi in l A. Oh my god, ain't she the best? What was she wearing? She was wearing some of some of
the coolest duds you've ever seen. Everyone. I did a little thing with Keenan, Chris, Heidie and Chloe and it was style all around. Come on the names. Wow, I hadn't thought about it like that. I'm kind of I'm always going there. I'm always thinking about sounds and where the sounds you know, what are this? What are the sounds of the situation? That's great? You want me somewe What are the sounds sounds? What are the sounds involved? Sort of? Where are the sounds, where they coming from?
How loud are they? Like? What are the consonants? I love a good consonant. Well, here's the thing. Can I do serious for a second? Serious? This whole time I've been I know, but there's something about there's there's something about Smia Dune, you know, being the stacked cast full
of you know, musical theater people. Um. And then there's something about there's something there's something to us as fans of sketch comedy and us as people who can track your sensibility or find it in people, and Cecily being someone who can deliver on that always. But there's something about Terrizana specifically where I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Cecily, we're bringing up Arizona's Sorry. We never do this to me. Yes, you know, I knew what you do. It's the way
she says this to me. You never do this to me, something that was real, And then Gosling is losing it. Yeah, Goslics losing it bringing up like dad, it's really a messive guy. It's just Bridge and Tunnel girl. That's just like, don't tickle me like like that, like like stop like but but like it's it's it's her. Her action is stop like that you know and you and you know it and everyone understands everything that she's saying in her head. They all feel sorry for her. Her story is the toughest.
Her dad was a really messive guy. Readers, you have to watch the Terrizono sketch. Literally just type an snl Rizano Cecily you'll you'll find it. And that hair is just so it can't be like the Kyle Richards like sort of like moment I can't. By the way, we have to talk about houseives later because I know you love you know it. This has to be a two
part episode. This is going to House fives. Yeah, but we we have to talk about the sequel sketch, which is Domenico's with Adam Driver and that is the coffee that's the that's the that's the b page Joe's thing or whatever. But um, but there's a there craftmagaw and then um, you tell how do He's like, well, I think it's great. And then you go, um, I forget
what the exact wording is, but you go. When this movie comes out, you're gonna you're gonna want to kill kill yourself because you sound because he's saying that it's the only person here that's going to tell you the truth, you sound poor. When this movie comes out, come on like money line. I can't. I'm telling you, I literally I can't. I just had a moment when I flashed back to um god moay sandem like way back, way way, and then I was like I can't even believe that,
Like I literally it's just so gay and lame. I was like, I can't believe we're talking to you, and I can't believe I know Vanessa, I'm gonna be on that fucking show that. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, this are the funniest woman in the world. I love you anyway. That's like it's like uncool to say, but like anyway, I keep cheer sing I'm doing very mom things on zoom. I did a sl laws. I love this long sleeve. What what is that? Is that?
Like a ti it is? But it's um. My friend had a baby and she loves tide um and I'm wearing it because I was cold. I'm not a normal like tie die kind of gal, but my friend Bianca really loves what is it? Indigo? Is that this? Yeah? And tidying um? I was there, I ordained officiate, the officiate visiant, Yeah, officiant, so I and her wedding was a lot of indigo. I too. Was this the one in the desert? Yes, it was the one in the desert that looked very chic. It was great. Yeah, where
in the desert did you go far? What did you go to? Like a Joshua Tree moment? Where's the iron Man Mountain or where they shot iron Man? It was there? How cool you get to go where they shot iron Man? Well, and I certainly incorporated that in my speech. It's great to gather here at a spot where Robert Downey Jr. Was not far away, their favorite actor, Robert Downey Jr. And their favorite character iron Man. I just like you had to think for us hard two seconds about what
his real name is. And then I found it Tony Star Tony you found it. Oh. I was like, Robert Downey Jr. Who has to think about that? I mean, look, Robert, you forget how long in the game R d j Has been doing it. But you know, I recently worked with Civil Shepherd and she w I told her. I was like, well, I love Sibyl Shepherd love and so I told her in between takes, I said, you know, I have to tell you one of my favorite movies. It's chances are. I was like, you and Robert Downey Jr.
Wasn't that his name? Yes? Yes, um? And so she was like, she turns to me and she goes, oh, you know, he couldn't be alone. He couldn't be left alone at that time. You know, he had to have something with him at all times. Couldn't go to the bathroom alone. He really you know, that was a hard time. But you know we had the chemistry. We had the chemistry. So I was just like, I was just my jaw was on the ground. I was like, I love the movie. I think the Whenever people are like what movie made
you cry the most? My answer first such a long time was heart and Soul. Cecily, I always talk about heart and souls. Kia Sedgwick alfree or forget Mr Huggaba right now, be careful. Oh my god, you won't be there. It's so good. Bowen you must. It's it's like so like, it's so romantic is the wrong word, but it's so like, um, it's like nine early nineties cheese, but in the best way. Performances like oh my god, Charles Grodan, Tom Size More,
r DJ killing it, Miss Elizabeth Show, We love Elizabeth Ship. Yes, that sounds very baroque. Romantic is not the word baroque is We need to start describing things more when it applies. And I think I've never seen heart and Souls, but I feel like it applies. But you think baroque, that's
what you got. No money, baroque, bitch. Wait wait, wait, but that movie at the end where Cia Sedgewick goes, go and live the life that okay, and r d J is just like yeah, and she goes, I wish I could just give you a big hook and then they can. This is a spoiler. Anyway, It's so good that line reading was honestly gave me goose bumps. That's very good. At the res an amazing actress. People don't know you, but they will. I've started to book morals a lot of Kia Sedgwick. I feel like you should
do more. Well, you know, Kira Sedgwick is not far away from my best character, which is sudden Strack. Yes, yes, Forest, I know this word violate is really too much for me. Violated you wait, I need to bring out a thing to just I'm using this relax so I don't crop. I don't crock as the one woman who got called race. I don't want to talk about Rice. Why we're not gonna do the implosion of white women this season on New York and Beverly Hills. It's what do you think?
Both of you? I want to know what you think about the Real Housewives of New York ratings being so bad and now there's like they're blaming They're blaming Ebony, Ebony. Are you kidding me? It's unbelievable. Crazy Ebony is like I think Ebony is so amazing and wonder and I'm like, I don't know how she does it. I don't know how you can want to be around that all the time. And she has so much patience, and then she'd be blamed. And there's a Ramona singer in the world, and we're
blaming Ebony Bo. When is the number one Anty Romana singer. Girl. Oh, I don't know if I think I we could be competitive in this. I have. Hey, I have really really not like Ramona singer for a long time. Oh yes, I'm sure that's true. But I think I've I think I've thrown away my chances of being asked back on
Watch It Happens Live, because I did. I did over Zoom last fall and they did a segment where they were like, okay, Bo, when you're just gonna rattle off your your your thoughts about housewives stuff between Ptoe like in New York and and all this stuff. And I was like sure, And then they got to Ramona. I was like, she's a white supremacist and blah blah. They didn't that happened to ask it. So he did make a mark. I mean, I hit a nerve. But Andy
seems like, actually, why would say that white? I wouldn't. I wouldn't use those words. I don't why we have to. Can we just talk about some fun I don't talk about a dolfriend stuff. I don't want to talk about race, religion, a creed what. I don't want to talk about this all the time. What I want to come out. I want to be sexing, fun. I want to push her down the stairs. I've said this, I'm talking about COVID. COVID,
this COVID. She's a super spreader. And he said, I love all the times like show the camera she's just on the side of a pool, like adjusting her face. Supposing you to know, to know Jo how unhinged that woman is is you have to remember how she walked down that runway that one time and her father drake a lot. Actually, so it's actually very triggering, triggering. This is this is a really inhabited, it, very lived in. Literally, Ramona says, this is very good. Have you worth you
worked on this? I just watched so much TV and the half fives really a lot in this season especially, A d always would be like, I'll do I have I can do impressions like as the show is happening, yes, immediately interesting. I will forget who Sutton Strack is after the season, but right now she's my number one impression. Sutton. I just love it. They all how they said her name for that's Sutton. Well, that's just Sutton made Sutton classic, Sutton classics. And we also talk about what do we
think about whoever is dressing Sutton? Okay, you know, and there's some misses, but uh yeah, who's dressing Sutton? I mean like an unattractive person. She doesn't have a bad figure, but Sutton's being dressed poorly in very expensive clothes. Right, she clearly has taste if she's like running her own boutique. But it's like, I think she's just hiring a bad stylist. Quote for these for for the show, she looks like
a fake Christmas tree. She looks like a fake Christmas tree, like like a fun Christmas tree that someone gets like and they're like, it's a different color than usual because we wanted to be different this year. It's like, why she looks like that? It's techica And I want to ask her, like, how when's the last time you've gotten a compliment that wasn't like this is fun and different,
like when people only say fun about what you're wearing. Yeah, And it's like she can look great, she's in great shape. I just would love to challenge Sutton, if you're listening to you know, get a different stylist and see what you can do, because I bet you look great. Who is the best dress to you, guys on Beverly Hills. I'm very loyal with my fandom and it's always Erica. Erica is inspired art for you. I mean yes, and
I'm supporting her through all of this. And I think to read is like she's gotten whatever, but it's like to read, it's just wanting to be Erica. To read is the one that said your panties are showing or you're not wearing panties. Here's panties, which is like the most conservative, nasty thing to do. And then it's like, now she's in bucket hats and dressed like LLL cool J playing lawn darts or whatever it was this season? Remember what do they not know? What? They were? Like?
What's this called horseshoe? What is that? And she was truly dressed like LL cool J. She is she always goes for it, and like the thing is like I wonder and I actually yeah, and that's yeah, I'm actually doing like an L cool J thing right now. I don't know, Erica, you hear what's going on? Just she cheated all those people. And when it's really sad, it's really really sad, and I'm loving my room in it was the only thing that was going to get me out.
I was like, I need to go. And what's it called the Sunrise Room or wherever the funk the it's like an Italian name. I forget, but it's I must go. I must go, And like she kept saying all these like oh please, I would have an easier time getting George to make out with a woman. And it was like the same, like these are like my gay jokes that I tell, boy, George would never suck a woman. He's say he's gay, okay, so he would never ever make out with a woman. But I would have better
getting him to do that. Jagger, it's like a half Bi York. It really like starts to like dip into b York or Icelandic or something so and her accent is so peculiar it's untraceable. And she would say, because she's a citizen of the world, it's when and when you're a citizen of the world, you pick up all different cultures. My mom, I want I've been watching it with my mom and she she laughed at um or, being like when you insult someone's outfit that is below
the bat. Have you ever heard Heidi talk about their like the way they greet each other. It's my favorite, like the Housewives because they spend something they're like, oh, I love this. What is this? Is this pang? Look at this? It's a pang. I love it. Guess what it is. I'm wearing. Yes, I'm wearing what you are. I'm wearing fun. Look at you? This is fun. Look at this? Look at the wall. Oh my god, table, I love it. And you're a hint and this is table? Okay?
What fun? A lot of a lot of air time is dedicated to like what people look like, literally, because it's like Cathy thinking that Garcel was Kyle like that up like multiple what do we think it's happening there? Oh? We love her perfection, utter perfection. Every now and then I get a really good Kathy Hilton because you know she like doesn't move her forward. She'll be like, who is hunky Dory? No, it's no, you know what I keep I keep losing a cafe caffeine. It's who is
hunky Dory? She's genuinely hunky dory Thomasina keeping Tomssina and I love but I loved this when she was like she goes to Renna, you have to handle this. This is your house. This is your house. You have to make this right. And what we don't want to do is push anyone to the edge. Oh my god. And you know she was such a bully with her drinking game. But I was just showing out of context the bunny, the bunny, the bunny for the baby shower, and it was like that scene just out of context is so
amazing their faces in it. I highly recommend a second view. Oh and actually I brought the bunny and there's so many close ups. Everybody's like crying and the bunnies in that wrapping paper. So for the A S Mr fans too, it's huge. It's good for everyone. It's good for everyone. There's something for everyone in the real house Beverly Hills, but never more so than that scene with the bunny. You can anyone can has away in Yes. The news development this week on the Erica front is is troubling.
Maybe she got hit with the dollar. The claim is that she took dollars from Tom's firm that might have been embezzled from these clients. And this is starting to actually implicate her in all this stuff. I think I think the money, for sure, there's like money's intertwined. I don't think Erica was. I knew what Tom's doing, and look at what he talks to her. Do you think that man told her a thing about what he does?
And also I don't think she would not not to say like she couldn't understand it, but I don't think she would understand it because it's not her business. And also like like and when I say that, I mean like it's literally not a business that she works and understands. I don't tell just because I'm dating someone. I don't tell them what I doing. No exactly he and he's just not telling her anything. And not that she's mother Teresa or a great person. But I just don't think
Erica was. Like I think it's so we always like drag a spouse in and especially like the woman's faults somehow, you know, like Jenny Jones, it was her fault, right, and not a homophobic man who shot another man. Guys, I'm bringing it back to Jenny. It's been upset about this for a long time. I now, were you obsessed with Jenny Jones growing up? No? Okay, she she was. She wasn't. She wasn't my girl of choice like I was. I was more. Ricky was more my culture. I love Rickie.
Ricky had a poem like there was always a rhyme introducing the like I forget that. I was just watching my friend Shane sent me when recently it was like, you're too fat to be a drag queen or something, but it said Jack Spratt could eat no fat and his wife could eat no lane. Girl, you are too fat to be a drag queen. And it was and every time they introduced someone, they'd be like, next up,
meet Cecily. She is a five founder pound father of three, and it was like, how dare But also like, that's how I wanted to introduced now about father father and her friend Bowen says she is too fat. Shepard to promote the book this is us not going anywhere soon until the end of the world, and again she is a five town father three. Honestly, Wow, Okay, so I didn't know that that new information came out about Erica.
Here's here, But what are you thinking, well, I'm thinking I keep getting pulled in all these different directions, but I think I'm landing at a place where Matt and I watched the most recent episode together where she, you know, she meets Kyle and she's she fully has a breakdown, and You're like, I'm kind of convinced that I do think. I do think Bravo is, you know, doing their best to quote unquote protect her, which is which I think
is valid and noble and whatever. But now I am convinced that, like, she probably just had no fucking idea. I think that two things can be true. I think that she can have no idea what the hell that was. And I think that she also might have to give that money back because it's not hers. And I think that I don't mean to say I'm not undersigning that she should keep that money, No, I just don't think
she should go to prison exactly. It would be like or be implicated and like I cheated people out of a plane crash, you know what I mean, very gay songs at gay clip what I'm not here to like
cheat victims, yea, it is. So it is kind of funny though that, like pretty much her entire narrative on the show and in her career is I have a lot of money, and now it's like the money is from these tragedies and that like, you know, not all of it obviously because he worked on other things, but you know, it's it's dark and sad, and I think she'll be fine. I think, like she she didn't start off with money, and she like talks about that. She's
always worked hard. I think it's like now the narrative will be I got less money. Like I think she'll make the new narrative and she'll be fine. She didn't need Tom's business ever, maybe like very early on to get started to buy some things. But she's always been talented.
She's always been talented, and I have to I'm sorry to bring this back to deestin all, but one thing I appreciate about your sketch where you played her basically is something that my my parents really appreciate is that you you don't about to talk about to say where you know, I just love it that your parents loved it is the part where you you're saying the song and then you count, you count to five in Chinese or you count to four in Chinese. You go, so
you managing. Yeah, it's so funny's as anyway, and it's it's a perfect erica jadam press And we have to say, well, you know, and I did a a Chinese soccer in college, director Jang, you did a Beijing opera. M hmm, well Chin Yang directed. But that's why I know how to count to eight? And man, oh my god. And prostitute Yeah, we went yeah, how and then we yeah, and I was the head of the ukulele group. Was the ukule captain of the prostitutes. Oh my god. What a powerful
position to be in. You can legally captain of the prostitutes. Is that was that what you said? Yeah? And I don't know. I kind of like, bitch, that's just a good one. We have to ask the questions. We do have to ask the question. What's the question I forgot? That's the question is we asked this to all of our guests, and that is what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? This is formative
culture that made your life move into a cultural direction. Sure, well, I would say that my culture for sure was Strangers of Candy here and I watched it on a landline, dragged out in front of TV with my gay friend Graham Castic. Have we talked about this before? No? But is this is? This? Is this the grand we know
in New York City? Different? Different, but it was like I was like a sophomore in high school and we would just be on the landlines laughing and watching Strangers of Candy together and was this your gateway into like second City? And like who Amy Sadaris was? And like all these things definitely Amy Sadaris. But and I also like I'm always I think like weirdly um Waiting Goffman and all the Christopher Guests with Katherine O'Hara and and
Strangers Are Candy. And then weirdly enough, Bottle Rocket were like my oh favorite formative comedy called and like this is my world, but especially Strangers Are Candy. It was like the fans of that show and mean it was like that's my world, my culture. These are all really good Bottle Rockets. Interesting too, like that's like that's a Wes Anderson that like people. It's the first one. It's the first one. Yeah. I think Owen Wilson is so funny in that movie. He's great. I mean, like I
don't think I've ever seen him in anything. I didn't like him, and I found him like very appealing, and I think he's like a star and I love his little nose. I think he's fair. It's such a question and for so long, but he's like I think Wes Anderson without Owen Wilson is just not doesn't do it
for me. I think no, And I think, like the movies are great and they look cool, but I think Owen Wilson is so funny and there's just something about just like such a person who with low self esteem, you know, like just kind of like not a who's not great at things, but that you root for. And was that was that? Was that the first Luke and Owen feature? Like, like, was that the first time you saw that, like were introduced? Yeah, because they did it in college. It was like a fifteen minute film and
then they they made a full movie. And I will say this is the one where I always have like my gay friends will go now that's interesting and which one was at again, it's like we're all on board for Best in Show and Strange as a Candy and my bottle rockets really where I did where I go
off onto my own No. I love that though, because Bottle Rocket there's something about I feel like I'm not just saying this because you're contextualizing in these your texture, you're contextualizing it in these with these other queer works. But I'm like, I feel like because I think Waiting for Guffin and in Strange of the Candy are kind of queer in some sense, like very much. So I would say very yes, exclusively, there's some there's just a
drag race challenge about you. It's like, yes, but waiting for Guffmen, I feel like, doesn't you know? I mean like I mean like Quirky is gay gay icon? I mean, is given a chance, You've got pet come on, You've got can't suit from my wife Bonnie and he's in a Judy new To shirt dancing. Oh my god. But but Bottle Rocket is. I watched it like last summer, weirdly because I was like researching like crime movies and like not crime movies, but like, wait, no, am I
getting it wrong? I don't know, but I want to hear more. No, it wasn't, it's not. I was trying to write. I was trying to write a crime movie, and then I wanted some dynamic to be like similar to Battle Rocket, where it's Um Owen the Owen Wilson characters kind of dragging Luke's character along and all these like and all these schemes and Lucas Luke has just kind of been broken out of this, like you know, he didn't even get broken. Yeah, he was in a
mental hospital, but it was voluntary. But and then the doctor's like, why are you jumping out of the the window, And he's like, he didn't know that it's a voluntary hospital and he kind of needs this. So he's pretending to break out for Owen Wilson, who's going like cool, right, who he needs that? He needs that and the and the and they they do go on to like pull
off like all these heists. Well they robbed um, they robbed Luke Wilson's house, and he takes the ear rings and he's like, you said, I told you just don't take the ear rings. I got this from my mom for a birthday. Yeah, it's just a good like it's a great loser, but lovable loser, but and it's friendly.
His friend tries to take care from Yeah, you know what I'm realizing Owen Wilson does a lot of two handers, Like he's like a very he's like always Loki too well, I mean Loki like the Shanghai Noon, Shanghai Nights of it All, wedding crashers famously, Like it feels like Owen Wilson is great reacting. He's just always he's just yeah, he's he's there to underline what's what the reality is
and what's going on. Yeah, I appreciate it to someone who's who's great in an ensemble or a team, you know, someone who can fade in but stand out, you know what I mean, we know exactly and support and lived and be there for the others and doesn't need all the attention and like, let's other people shine. It's great. Cecily has her face all the way up to the cameras. Um no, I I remember, um so the wait Strangers with candy. This is this is iconic, gay Stephen Colbert.
Strangers are candies My favorite thing ever and you certainly it is. I know it's like so boring to be like you couldn't do that show now you really couldn't, but maybe you could. I mean it's so funny though that like you maybe could you know what you could do. You could do like a fifteen minute show, you know what I mean, Like you could get like they could do like AFT. We could sneak in there like the way like I think you should leave somehow snuck onto Netflix.
And I'm like, oh my god, this is the funniest thing ever, so funny that I almost can't believe it was made. I know, right, I think there is there is a really tiny sliver space where you could make it today because that is the character of Jerry Blank, that she is like offensive to everybody. But the problem is there's so many people who think, like that's what they do for comedy, and they're like it's this offensive deal with it. And you're like, but well, it's not funny.
I wouldn't consider like Amy Sadares to be like edgy comano, you know, like I was, she was ever going. She's a classic clown exactly there it is. But I mean it is troubling to think like you could, like you couldn't have like a principal black man, the kind of thing. And there are there's just so many good lines with the supermodel in that episode. It's like I'm doctor sending something supermodel ten years ago modeling agent told me what
my dreams are and you can too. And then when she takes the test to see what it's like, what's your favorite color lemon rest, she's lying it's your favorite animal, kitten. I mean the in the first scene of the second scene of the first episode, you have Stephen Colbert writing on the chigboard and don't make it bag yes and the other reason. And we don't know what exactly the Native Americans did to the buffalo, but it was something because they all committed suicide by jumping in front of
the white man's bullets. You know, you know, I think that I hope you feel I'm gonna tell you what people have told me and that I haven't taken to hearts. As as she pours the more burgundy, you gotta like really understand, like how how wonderful you are on that show and on every show, but but but really on this show that is so tough to crack, like you really are are pretty incredible. Well that's very very sweet, Bowen. I mean, I think the world to you, and so
I'll take that from you. I think it's I love it so much, and I you know, I was attached since two thousand and eighteen or whatever, and so I got a lot of time with the material and got to say, hey, can we lower the key of this song? But I think it's just since I loved it so much, it was you know, and you love so you'll be better at it. Ye yeah, yeah, I mean it's it really is like so special and there's something powerful about it being shot like one of those you know, Golden
Age musicals. Um, did you ever meet Chris Katelly the choreographer? Can? I feel he is one of my favorite parts of this whole thing, and I feel like my favorite note I've ever gotten, and I think, like you'll appreciate this. And he was like when you just about how these old stars used to like flirt with the camera really because of these five shots, and it was like, you know, these women are doing these suits, but it's like, oh, it's turning out of the camera. And it was like
an if you'll notice next time you watch it. Anytime I dip in that show, my head is out to the camera, and I think, just from now on, anytime I dip, I'm looking at a camera and I'm like, thank you, Chris Caatelly that's my favorite note I've ever gotten. And I thought we do that. We all don't know. If you just watched the Jimmy fallon something stupid sketch, I had a dip in my head to camera. This is one of those lifelong notes. Really, it really is. It's one of those. I love it. I love it.
I will say also like I had just had another light bulb moment, which is that Kristin China With played Velma von Tussle with Dove Cameron who was Amber and the thing, and also just watching christ and China With with dark hair playing this thing, and oh, yes I do. And I just feel like she's just giving you China With at such a high level. And my one friend text to me, he was like, channam With is a
standout on this show. And I was like, well, imagine she wasn't, Like imagine China With came and we were like, yeah, no, China wasn't landing in this musical theater show called June. She's so right, and I feel like she was like the first that I was actively like quoting because she does things like that, used to do that. She has another one she goes, okay, ab duct that's in a later episode, but just get ready for it, okay, And she's three ft six. She's three ft six and her
hands are this bit one of our shortest icons. She is. And Alan singing that song in the second episode is so freaking funny. Are you That's so sweet? I mean I feel like I cried the whole thing anyway, in a good way. Good tears, good cries. And I will say this speaking of crying, Like the second episode, you are so good and you're giving us parts of Cecily that we've never seen, and that's what I love. I'm like, I like that scene. Spoiler alert, big big beat here
so people can skip. But when you guys decide you're gonna be when you guys decide you're gonna break up temporarily, I'm sure I hope, um, but you are so good in that scene. I'm just like wow, Like I don't know, I just whenever, whenever, like my favorite people on SNL get like a like eighty with Shrill and like I'm telling you, when you guys see Vanessa in this show, Vanessa has a scene in the pilot. Vanessa has a scene in the pilot where I'm just like I wish.
I literally in the scene, I'm like receiving the information.
She's like telling it to me, and I'm like, I was literally crying, and I was like, the camera isn't on me, but they're I'm giving good stuff, but I'm trying because she of her performance, like it's so funny and so good and so whenever you guys get a chance to show like another shade that isn't you guys being the best clowns, I'm always like, I just I get so excited, and like in watching this, I was like, this is so exciting the cheers of a clown as they say I think, I mean, I think all of
us are very good criers. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that I I haven't really been tested in that way. And I'm maintenance. I cried on high maintenance, but yeah, I don't know. It wasn't like but it wasn't that kind of like I would eat my shoe. If you're not a good crier, I know you are
because you feel things. He's a really good crier in real life, Like sometimes like something like Bowen in real life, when he cries, you can tell he's been trying to hold it back and then he cries and you're like no, like I was trying. I cried today to Bowen on FaceTime. I love to hear it. I'm a big crier. You gotta you have to get these cries out astrologically, what's your deal? Oh? Could you guess? Are you scorpio? Are you trust God? I'm I'm notorious? Areus? Okay? Got it?
And this is that, this is the mystique, This is the intrigue that Cecily cultivates some va scorpio intrigue. I guess not at all. I'm in a fucking tide. This is aquarious, baby, And you would never guess what this all this blue around me on this blue shirt and the fact that I just said I wept earlier. But I am a Pisces rising faces cancer, Pisces in mercury as well. I'm the water all over. When you said no,
I'm not a scorpio. I had to sort of shutter because you know who's one of the Scorpio kings is bon Yang. Well listen, my dad and my brother are both scorpios. I just I have no water in me. Yeah, But and yet you are still You're still in touch with your your emotional center, your emotional but it is very much like it's an intellectual of well trying to understand my emotions. Yes, oh yeah, I relate to that.
Definitely definitely relates as opposed to being like just help take take me away, which that's my hilarious impression of a water sign. You know, sometimes I'll be like, I can't I there's the water size of my life? Are being exhausting right now? Well, okay, I have I have a really basic question, which is in that scene where you guys have that have that break up, I mean, how many takes was that? How many takes did you do total? And did you save it for your coverage?
Like what was that like? Now? I think I cried every take, every and both sides because and also I feel like when you when we were doing it, and the other thing is we didn't have to. We didn't do a lot of takes, which I really loved about Barry. He was kind of like if he got it, he got it, and he was like the director ever says to you, let's get one more. Just like that, He's like,
they're wasting your time. I love this berry because and also they had to spend so much time setting up these shots and it's just like the amount of time that people put in and there's COVID and what so to not mess around with eight thousand takes, which was great, but I think also when you give something to the person that's on camera, then they give a better performance too.
Always I feel like it's kind of crazy too, Like now almost everything that's coming out now like has been shot during COVID, Like it's it's weird to think that now, Like we used to think that was like a novelty, like, oh, was shot during COVID, Like they pulled it off. But now it's like everything that we're seeing now that has been shot during COVID was that that was? Was that shot at a time where that was very hard in the fall? Right? Yeah? I think it was just like
every again, like everything else that was being done. Um, it wasn't like very different from SNL, I guess, but you know it's like you're being tested and but in Vancouver because they didn't have an break like us, so they would shut down if like testing couldn't keep up, like if you could if the test couldn't get done fast enough. This is the science why they say it. If the testing couldn't get done in the labs and that's so fast, she was saying, then they would shut
you had to everybody had to shut down. So it was really like they weren't shutting down because of cases. They were shutting down because of testing. But we wound up like we got through the whole show and we didn't get shut down. We were really lucky. But I also think, like you make a commitment to each other, like we get to do this and we get to do musical theater especially, and we get to sing, and we get to kiss and dance and hug that. It's like, then don't go out to eat. It's fine. We can
make this commitment for seven weeks because we get to work. Yeah, that's that's really fair. That's beautiful. So there's kissing more kissing in the show, so maybe there's a little bit more kissing. I can't wait to hear I can't wait to see you and Aaron's bate come out the other side of that tunnel. And I hope that they bang. I really hope they bang. We'll see, well, I guess you left tune in Friday July. There we go not everyone can do that high waisted thing, but he's really
doing that high waisted thing. Yeah, he's like a little news. He's body that tight sort of musicals in a little news. He's cap too. Yeah yeah, but I will say I just want to and not to you know, blow when you think. But there's gonna be a high make meal that's going to be very I think, another exciting thing for an audience. There's gonna be what high make camal another hank in. There's another hunk. We're getting another hunk and we're getting Jane Wikowski. We're getting hunk of Jane
Kirkhowsky comes on, Oh, hunk of talent. More like okay, the hun in everywhere. Yes, she does the splits behind me. It's like upside down and well you'll see she's amazing. Speaking of death drop and splits and talent. What are we thinking of All Star six? Because I know you're a super fan, right, Okay, what what was the last I had a very crazy week, But you know what it is. There's like some people, I'm like, okay, let's get through a couple of these. I'm actually liking ginger
Mine a lot. I always like Acaria. Yeah, where are you guys said, what are you thinking? Yeah? I was disappointed with this last episode. I appreciate this season for making me like queens who I didn't have any opinion on before. I'm like, oh, like, I like that. I I am into Rajah. Yeah, I like that. I'm into definitely a better showing for Raja. Yeah much. Yeah, she's like really fun. Also, I have to tell you like and this last episode spoiler alert if you haven't seen it,
skip ahead, But Scarlett Envy got eliminated. And I've been liking Scarlett Envy. I like, I constantly feel like she kind of gets the short ends and I'm like, her drag is really good and I don't I don't know. She stuck for everyone and one of those everyone's might be me, but that's but I say that with respect and go. And she's gorgeous and great at it as they are. And there's one other queen that is not
for me, But I'm like, who cares about? I don't want to criticize these amazing queens, but I'll say it and I'll mouth it to you. This queen drives me nuts. Oh okay, yeah, my dad wanted me to sing First Friends and we beat me and that's why I can't do this choreography. And I've been like the only person I can say that is Michael Jackson. Yeah you you you were aghast. You you you you helped them with their roast. Oh I loved that episode. Yes, I don't
know if I helped much, but I was there? Did you? You were great? Wait? But what what season was that? That was All Starts for you were my favorite queen, But I did, and I didn't know, like I was doing All Stars, I didn't know that I was going to be seeing Mona and then I was like, well, this isn't fair because I'm going to of course I want you to win. Yeah, so you were like a mone fan from from back Oh big time. Yeah. I love money and saw her one woman show My birthday
in New York was great. Right. You had my favorite guest judge introduction line, which was, well you look cute and then you rugos ex beastly strong. You look cute, and you said I don't get cute. I get dropped at garge as. That's very James, and it's very James Anderson reading on it. I was gonna say, how dare we talk about these queens without mentioning that pepper Mint is in the Friend of the Show, Friend of Us
all friends. When she turned around, I was like, oh my god, I didn't know Miss Peppermint was in this Misfortune Teller. It was a huge deal. And it was like, especially also because it is a love letter to Broadway, that it was like Peppermint made Broadway straight first, Yes, trans woman to originate a role, Yes, yes, yes, it had over heels and I'm it's so she's just like she makes history all the time and it's like no big deal to her and she's so funny and so amazing.
Another Aquarius. And I hope that I'm like, if we get a season two, I hope that it's the world's less Covidy and like we get to have more of Peppermint because it was hard to get it was hard to fly people out, like oh, and you were supposed to be in the show, but we couldn't, you know, timing gut changed, sure, of course, and then Nest and all is happening I've heard, I mean, I don't know where.
So so by the way, the show is co created by um Singlepaul and Ken Dario uh wonderful people, and when we when we closed the room, there were very interesting directions in which the show could go. Because you'll you'll see without spoiling anything, you know, it just it just the things are left in a very interesting place, not in a way that you would expect. Even now as an audience member, I'm very excited um for people to finish this season. I have a prediction. I have
a prediction for what's going to happen. And I've only seen two episodes. And I didn't write in the room and wasn't to start our producer of the show. So and understand that I'm not, Oh, I wasn't a consulting producer. I was. I'm just like a fan. So readers, no, I'm just like you when I say this. The way I think it's gonna end is that it's gonna be like Jurassic World, and I think the characters from the show are going to creep into the real world. I
really think that. Oh that's I think Chennawi is gonna I think the last shot is going to be Chennaw in like um A Gelson's and she's gonna be go walking through and she's gonna you know, She's gonna be walking to the Girlson's and then I'm like, ma'am, you need what is this? Yeah, she's gonna be in the
Galson's an l a supermarket. You need to wear a mask, man co Covid is gonna be and she's like, I don't and that cut to black, and then you know Season two is gonna be like Drastic World where the where the where the dinosaurs sort of come into the worst beautiful. I thought that, did you ever see um Barbara streisand do that with Anne Hathaway and Daisy Ridley
heard it? Yeah, So there's like a featurette that is like her coaching them and she it's so funny because she's just like giving the notes, like and she's like, watched Barbara's direct is I just I love it. I'm you have to watch the featurette of Barbara doing all those songs with people. You gotta absolutely Well, that's all I had to say about that, boh and anything on Barbara.
We love Barbara. We love that she only does movies now where she is sitting down, sitting down, I want to be comfortable, Sudie and I saw one of my favorite memories of my life is when Sudy and I went to go see Barbara The Music, The Magic, The Memory, Barclay's and it was Barbara back in Brooklyn and we went and we were sitting all the way in the back and Sudie and I like, we were so excited.
We love Barbara so much. I was raised on Barbara, like funny girl was on like every day in my house, so um, we're there, and she before every song, she had like an interlude that was like, well, you know, they told me that they label told me they wanted this picture for the cover of the album. And it's
like a picture that's bad. And she's in the crowds like she goes, well, you know, I told them I wanted this picture and it's like the album and then everyone's like She's like, and you know what, did win the Grammy for the Best Album cover. So anyway, this is the way we were. And she would go in and sing and like kill it. She did Papa, can you hear Me? And it was like bracing ly good.
It was insane. But before every musical number from Lentil, before every number, I'm not kidding, Sudi can verify every number there was a preamble that was someone told me they thought one thing, I told them another and I was right. And then she started to go off on politics. This is pre election, so she went off on politics, and one woman like behind us, was like, we don't want to hear this. We want to hear you sing, shut up, shut up, and we're like, what did you
think was gonna happen? You came to a Barbera Stris and show in the year of Yeah, did Barbara's did she go Patty and go like? Who was that? She didn't hear it, But I'm happy she didn't because I think here it would have derailed the entire show. Barbara's shouting to the nose bleeds, who said who said that? Who said that? Who said? No? I want to talk, let's talk. Remember Manila lose on insane Barbara? Oh, that was? I mean, it wasn't it was? It was it was
borderline something. We love Manilla? We do love Manila? Do we love Manila? I love Manilla. That's just like because I get Manila lose on a lot or you do. So it's more like I'm being It's like self like I like her because I'm loving myself. When I say that people tell you you're giving mania on what like that we look alike? No, I take I sort of. I think Manila is gorgeous. Yeah, I'm very happily take that. I just I don't see it for either of you. Okay, well,
I can't wait till my concert when I go. Well, you know, when a lot of people told me enough like Manila Luzon. But you know what I said, I think I do. Anyway, here's the way we were that I went on to be right people, Right, have you been dying to sing on a televised program that wasn't Saturday Night Live because you can sort of like really pop off? Probably not? No, really, there's good safety to Saturday Night Live kind of that. It's like because it's
sketch comedy. It's always like we get to be charactery. You don't have to be good, you know how Like I have to get so drunk to do karaoke. I don't know karaoke because I feel this is gonna sound really obnoxious. But I don't like karaoke because I'm in pain afterwards, and I don't like to feel like I screamed and it's hard to sound. It's actually are to sound good. You do, You're like you never know what the key is gonna be, and you're like, oh, this
is the weird part of the song. I don't totally know right right right. I've always like practicing beforehand and like that's not a fun night. What song do you think Bowen and I do every time we do karaoke and have the harmonies, m lock, What song do you think we do? Oh, that's tough. I don't think I know the answer to this itself. There's so like I just feel like that could be anything, because there's a lot of like, you know, it could be like always
this wonder wall. It could you know, that would be like a confusing one. It could be a Cranberries. It could be take Me or leave Me. No, we've actually never done take merely Me, which is kind of shot. Never done take me. We do. We do let Me be Your Star from Smash, but it's not on karaoke. We've done it on a screen, on a screen with the words on it. How do you do it? We do. We've done a live we do it live with a piano and we know we're off book and we don't
need No, you don't need the words. We don't needed the words. Do you understand? Who do you think Katherine McPhee? And who do you think is the Megan healthy? This is an easy question. I would say, Bowen, is Megan healthy? Yes, yes, okay, I'm Katherine. I'm sort of Catherine in my mix at the top, and then Bowen comes in with actually, yeah, yes, And I still talk to my dog like you wanted to talk to him? Are you ready for dinner? My love? Hello, my love? Do you miss feel? I feel bad for her?
I feel like, oh good evening, my love? Would you like my love? She's I felt so bad for her because I feel like the limes really kind of well limes and Akayolanda Harded syndrome. It's kind of like Luke Garrig's disease. If I ever do get lines, I don't have lines. I have Yolanda had dude syndrome. Like that's that's that's how I how I'll tell people. Did people say, because I didn't watch Beverly Hills before this season, did she have Munchhausen's No. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but there
wasn't there. But Lisa Rinna heard she got a text on a friend and while they were in Dubai and she was in like a black turban and they talked it out. Though I just had a friend. I just my friend told me much. I got a text. I don't know what it means. And they were all in turbans in Dubai talking about and that's why we love that show. Beverly Hills is great. And also Beverly Hills is great in New York. When it's great is great.
And Potomac is always killing it. I've I've like, I'm so late on Potomac and it did so much for me. I loved it so much. I just got into it, and I'm like very ready now for this new season. We're only two episodes into this new season and I think it's I think it's I think it's interesting so far. I don't think it'll it'll quite reach that like ugliness as last season, which kind of didn't love. I didn't love the ugliness for I didn't love it either, but it did fuel the second half in a way that
felt interesting. I was like, well, I'm watching, I'm like, I'm Keen in every single moment. Now. Yeah, Bowen was on Watch What Happens Live with MONI with mon So that was like yeah, like during the thick of it, it was like this, it was like the episode. It was the episode after that that like Barnyard, like like fight and I was just like the wine Barnyard, the wine barn. Uh. Well, I was like, you know, I
support human. I didn't. I didn't say I support you Monique, but like but like they like threw it over to me. They were like, but what do you have to do? Right? Yeah, They're like, what do you have to say about all the Potoma stuff? I was like, I just hope there's space for radical you know, compassion. And you said fuck Ramona Singer, that white supremacist. Yeah, well there's what you said. I hope she dies, I said, I hope she dies alone.
I said, I said, she's a white supremacistaid she dies alone. Absolutely, I'm gonna die alone. But I hope I look fabulous doing it. I want someone to hold me. You're a really cute guy. What did you guy? You are? You guys are really cutute guy? So humiliated, You're like, how is this happen? My fifty best girlfriends and two hot guys coming up? Said? I just said by to my fifty best girlfriend. You're not one of them, big deal, you're not one of them. You're embarrassing me in front
of guys. You're because you're vagina is out. I don't want to talk like that, okay, because that is not what That's what sexy. Okay, sexy is you know, tickling with a little feather? Okay, okay, anything nasty because now you're being nasty. Okay? And oh my god, Porthsonia and her thing about guard do you remember what she called someone? Well, I don't talk to you because I need to know what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on the rumors that Bethany may return. I loved Bethany. I gotta
say it. And you know why I loved Bethany because nobody burned Ramona Singer like Bethany Frankel and I could watch that all day every day. You don't support other women. And then like the waiter would come over and remontedness and Bethany be like, what is this? Well, now she's just telling her life. I guess we're doing this now because it's some weirdo talking telling her. He was always
like just out of nowhere. She would just and Ramona was like, Bethany, I don't and it was just like Bethany burns Ramona, so well, yeah, I don't like Bethany. I think she's chaotic, evil, but I will say she is unfortunately a star and funny. And when I was recently my friend Patrick is really is watching was watching New York from the beginning and it's it's the season two reunion when they're like ganging up on Kelly Ben Simone and they're like, you can't talk to It's like
talking about Humpty dumpty. Funny. And my other favorite moment is when she puts on that tiny little bikini to tell Luanne about Tom. Oh my god. So I've heard something about Tom. Tell me it's not about Tom. Oh God. And then she goes it's like, question Mark, I just heard a rumor about you. Period that was like I couldn't believe her life fell apart in slow motion for
so long. I can't believe. But she looks so great and I almost like that the price that she paid to some which her life is crazy and she but she looks so good, so good. But isn't it isn't that Ramona's deal with the wa They're like, don't you want their doctors? Yeah, I mean they all look incredible. I mean they all do right, they all there's bones, structures and bodies that I don't have access to, but the doctor I want to know because I think they
look so good. Yeah. You know. It's like I said, like, whenever I'm home and I've been home a couple of times UM recently, and I make my mother watch Housewives with me and she doesn't naturally like it. So every time I put it on UM, she always comments like, wow, that one's had a lot of work done. Look at the work on that one. Wow, they've all had so much work done. And I'm like, mom, we're post this like, yes, this is the this is the way they look. We're posted.
We we can't comment. I was like, I can't write. Marais and she's got botox and she goes, she goes these women they have too much work done. I'm like, Mom, this is just this is what it is. And then she's like, I don't know, I just don't like it. And I'm like, yeah, but like twenty five year olds like have botox now, and don't you look like somehow they look different, like everybody looks the same when they get work done to a certain level and they just
look like themselves. They look great. I don't anything something. Yeah it's good. I don't know because I'm always like guys. I tried electorallysis five years ago once, so I don't know what anything good. You know. That's like as like crazy as I get. I used to Chris White strip everyone. I think I'm not, but you you look you have great teeth. Good teeth too when you do the crest White strips. I haven't in years. I think you should. I think we're serving face. You should Accordion style and
we're serving face. Did we all watch Legendary? Oh my god face? I mean, wait, what was her name? Shannon? Shannon, Shannon mother Shannon? Oh my god? Wait, Matt has to Matt has to watch Legendary. Are you not watching Legendary? No? No, I watched season one and then I've held I haven't. I've been to you. It's really more. I want to watch it all in the block right now. I have to watch all these Kiana Reeves movies. Um to the episode of the Kiana thing I'm doing on HBO Max
Movie podcast streaming now. Presented by a heart video. Thank you, Max, You're so good. You're so good solo, Matt, you're really listen to you. I listened to the beginning. I haven't listened to the whole thing, but so good and so so funny. I don't thank you for listening to it anyway, It's been cute. Um, But anyway, I'm gonna listen to it. I just you guys both need to come on. I'm gonna have you both on, um and that'll be a
fun bring us on to talk about. You should convince HBO Max to have Yentel on the platform and then we'll both come on and talk about yentle Yes, I have to see what movies are coming up and pick one for each of you. Um. And also, I just feel like there's just so much, Like I want to watch Loki, I want to watch Legendary Bons yelling, yelling at because I still haven't watched Watchman. Like, there's so much I want to watch this on White Orchid or whatever.
It's like my new Mike White show, White Lotus. Yeah, I heard, It's unbelievable. There's so much. Yeah, you've got it, You've got great. Jennifer Coolidge work, Great Britain work. Steve, Hello, Hello God. For a second, Stevenson, I mixed with Ian's do you say zeer Ring or sign ring or said either? Never said either. The second I was like, Wow, Bowen is a real fan of Ian zeer Ring, but clearly
you're not. Natasha Rothwell is in it. Natasha, come on the Queen and talk about someone who's over due to Bowen. We need to get Natasha on next week. We should ask you for next week. Did one of the best comedic monologues I've ever seen at u c B where she played a flight attendant and anyway, watch it, just
search it Natosha ross Ball UCB flight attendant monologue. She's so fucking good and not not obviously she's done bigger things than that UCB monologue, but like, yeah, anyway, I think it's time to move to I Don't Think So Honey. So I think we've sort of moved to that episode of at that point in the episode where we do I Don't Think So Honey, which is a sixty second segment that we have here on Lost Cultures. That's, by the way, my head just sort of rent running over
look at the speedo. I got sent today. Oh you right, it's it's from Homo homoke. Um it says yeah the Homoco anyway that said it to me and my my, my, my hand ran over it and so I just had to show it. Um. That wasn't product placement, just it was literally right here. Um. Okay, So this is a sixty second segment where we absolutely pop the f off sorry on an item of culture or anything in the world really that we just feel like dressing absolutely down.
And it's done in every single episode of Lost College, and this eppisode will be no exception. So bowen, I do have something. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't think so, honey. The seat covers for toilets, thanks, but no thanks. It's made of ship fabric. Like what is this? It's like it's like the consistency of half a piece of toilet paper. And then you have to negotiate it. You have to cut out the middle part so you can lay it
down over a seat. So you don't like fucking, I don't know, get a little bit of piss on your ass skin, Get grow up. If you're a gay man, who eats ass. You can sit down bear ass on a goddamn toilet. I'm over it also, not for nothing. But if I don't want to have that little piece of piss on my ass, what you do is you take the toilet paper and you you do just so you get it off, or do what I do. Just take four strips of toilet paper and creatively put it
on the seat. It's also gonna be better than that fat, stupid ship that they put on there. Also, while i'm at it, automatic toilet flushers, thanks for nothings. I'm gonna do it myself. I don't need to have you in my head. Afy, what do I leave the bathroom? And then I'm concerned that you don't flush. I know there's a button, but you can't always find it. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute I'm gonna have to just I'm gonna have to disagree with you on
this one baby. At the gym, at the airport, at all these places. I'm like the airport, it's important place, Mama. So you what you do is you take four pieces of toilet paper and do it on the seat. Because you can't negotiate with these toilet seat covers. Keep unnegotiable. You have nonegotiable extra half second to align, Mom, sweetie, No, no, no, this is work, darling deer. You can take those covers, darling dear, and you can blot them on your face if you want to get the shine off to those
absorbable well. I'm not very shiny ever, hun because I put sunscreen on every day, so I make sure that well made enough for you. Blotch bitch. All I'm saying is you have to do so much business to get the toilet sea cover on the toilet bowl seat. And I'm just like, I'm sorry, but need the toilet. What I've done to start the toilet flush when it starts? Because see and I'm like, now what is my body? Gen?
What movement has happened? Your concerned? And you know these toilets I'm talking about the white toilets white And they're like, oh, sorry, I guess I thought you were done because most people will be done right now. You're like, I'm peeing, Get over it. They flush so aggressively to They're like the ones that go and send the water. You get the splashback.
And I hate that when you have the water from the toilet bowl, from the flush, the aggressive flush hit your but and then you have to like deal with that. I'm like, get out. It's like a hard enough thing to ship at all, and now you're gonna make it this much difficult. I don't think so, honey. And if I'm in a public restroom at a gym or an airport and I have to ship, I don't have time to do the toilet bowl cover. It's an emergency because right we're not choosing to go number two in public
if we can help. Never once in my life. I literally I don't I don't know what it is, but like I would rather I'd rather die. I'd rather die than like than like go to the bathroom in a public place, Like no, that's sacred. That's what my toileboles at home is for. And I just like it's like everything about it. It's like that's the crack in the stall door that is wide, Like are you kidding? Like anyone, any any goose and gander could could like look in here and see me in the throws. And now I'm
like thinking about that. The toilet sea cover is constantly sliding off. It's an untrustworthy lock for sure, untrustworthy lock. Also, the toilet sea covers like are not wide enough to cover the whole seat, so it's like just like it's like you're not aligning it. This is I also have a huge fatass, so it's like it's not working. Wait, get a screenshot of this. It's gonna be the episode thing. Did they get it? They're fired. If they didn't, they're fired. Okay, okay,
trying to save your job, We got it. Now, bowen Yang is gonna pop off. So you just stargree with mine and I will see if I disagree with yours. This in essence is boen Yang's. I don't think so Honey, her time starts now. I don't think so Honey's. Secs Pizzas closing down, going out of business right as marijuana legalization is really starting to take off in this country.
It is the ultimate quintessential stoner chain restaurant. And yet I'm in Cleveland, Ohio, the land that you would would of the free you would think, the land of the SEC's pizzas you would think. And I brought some exquisite edibles with me on my trip here, and I thought, I'm gonna pop one of these to get an uber. I'm gonna go to a Cecy's Pizza and eat alone because I'm willing to go on that journey for myself. I don't care who sees me. I am going to
the CC's pizza alone and yet not a say. I open up Google Maps, I type in Cecy's Pizza into the into the search bar. All of them pop up on my map. They say permanently closed. We have this is I don't think so honey to society for letting Cecy's Pizza fail right as marijuana legalization is about to be a popular phenomenon in this country, and I think it's terrible timing. It's say, it's diabolical timing. Does feel like that's on us? Yeah, it is on us. And
one plus, I feel so bummed for you. I'm so I devast blessed you. I felt like, you know, we're going through Bowen's problems, but you still can bless ye always. He will always bless me. Culture number number he will always are we talking about our God? Depends depends on your some cultures the internet corner of the Internet, you know that's I really just wanted to really put that
out in the conversations. Cecy's pizzas were really an important part of the fabric of chain restaurants in this country, and the fact that they're gone means that, you know, we're deprived. We were like finally, yeah me, yes, hod is legal. And what happened to Cecy's. It's so shitty too. You know that everyone at CC's is just like so vomited because they were about to make huge money, I know, and then they were about to go. Okay, Cecily, are
you ready for and I don't think so, honey. Oh sure, okay, I it And I just apologized in advance. No, don't do that will be mine is me. Guys know this is Cicely Strong. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts and now okay, I don't think so honey. Wood Chucks, Okay, I am China. My little fat ass is trying to grow vegetables in my garden and these motherfucker's and I am like a zen Buddhist and I can't kill anything.
And these motherfucking woodchucks. I looked out of my window the other day and six of them are living in a hole. They have like the Montreal Underground mall outside of my house. I have had to borrow, not borrow, I've taken used cat litter and ground up blood. It's like this powder that you have to spread. I am on like farming blogs to try to understand how to deal with these motherfucking woodchucks. And I was out there in like flip flops holding a big the other day
my dog the baby wood chuck. It was the worst day, and I was going, Lucy no, Lucy no, And these motherfucking wood chucks ate my broccoli, they my lettuce, They and my little fat ass is trying to grow my vegetables in the Hudson Valley mess one minute. The other day this is awful. Well we got the other day twice. The other day my little fucking ass or whatever. My little fat ass is trying to grow little that sucks man motherfucker's and they look so cute, but they just
why wouldn't you let Lucy fight them? Because I was like, I can't see my dog kill and I can't see my dog get beaten up by a baby. What if she what if she wants to kill though I can't have that. It'll change our relationship it's too late in the game when a dog kills or when a dog like when a dog like does something even on Kouth, I'm like, I don't don't like, I don't want to on my friend's bed on Thanksgiving once, Oh my god.
And I was like looking at her and I was like, I don't even know who you are as I walked in on it, I don't even know who you are. Who you are she's shipping and pissing. It was like because she was like shoving off to their pug Banjie. It was like the two little girls going off to smoke cigarettes. It was like two little dogs. And my dog was like, I want to see something really bad. I'll poop and pee on their bed and motherfucking chaos demon.
And then yeah, and I was like I have to go take a walk around the block because then I broke a wine glass and it was like, forget it, Lucy, and I've ruined everything. We've ruined. Thanks. You know, what are we gonna do about these woodchhogs. I'm trying to figure that out. We got to help reader. If you, if you have any suggestions, please send them our away. Well, and I know about Kitty litter, and I have the all the the ground up blood. It's blood, isn't that gross?
I mean so it's like you have to make your whole home stink in order to deal with wood checks. And that stinks to me. You said Montreal Underground mall, and I got the full picture, really exactly, an empty and I also have now I have like six little spikes. So anytime you walk around my house, you always are like hey, because they're supposed to be like sonar, I don't know. Nothing works, nothing works. And they're really they're really killing the garden. Yes, when they get in, I
mean they they eat it all. What are you trying to grow? I'm trying to grow broccoli. I'm trying to go broccoli. I'm trying to go sunflowers, cucumbers, tomatoes, roma, tomatoes. I'm growing cosmos. I'm growing like the Harry Hamlin of the Hudson Valley. I am very much Harry Hamlin. I don't have the pool because we don't have the fire problems. Remember the little fire pool. But I felt like I got it. I understood. Harry Hamlin. Yeah, yeah, you really do,
you really do well, Cecily. This is a new I don't think I've heard you talk about gardening before. This is a wonderful new I'm not a good gardener. And that's the other thing is like whenever people come over and they're like, oh, let me, I can teach you how to do this, and I'm like no, no, no, no, that's it's like, that's like, would you say that to an eight year old with a science kit. You wouldn't like, say you're doing chemistry wrong. Let them explore. Yeah, that's true,
that's true. Well, well, okay, okay, okay. I like that. I like gardening as a gardening as a thing you find. You know, Yeah, it doesn't look good, but every now and then I get to I've eaten some of my lettuce so far in basil tomatoes. It really tastes better because because of national effect. Yeah, and some days it was like, you know, dinners all, you got some days dinners all. It's a real culture number forty eight some days. Some days in there, COVID really bummed me out today.
So I'm just kind of I'm counting on dinner to make up for don't. I don't. I don't think I'm a little I'm a little bummed all over again. I really I meant. I didn't actually mean today. Oh god, I meant that as like that's when I want dinner. No, No, let's not even think about it. We're okay, We're fine. I'm here in a county and I love my mask. We're gonna keep vaccinating peeps, you know, yeah, right, all right, let's say and on that hopeful note, on that hopeful
note as we look to the future. As we look to the future, a vaccinated safe America. Yes, wow, should think of China with what I'm thinking is going to happen. This again is another one of my predictions, as not a consulting producer or even the star producer of the show. I think we're gonna see kristin China with sort of throw off all the dark clothes and she's going to be bright. I think she's going to have a big number where she gives her classic like that whole thing,
and I think I think it might happen. I'm shaking my little shoulders. Everything was beautiful ends gilt. You laugh, because it would be good. It would be great. That's a great idea. And as a consulting producer on the show, Yeah, something I think about okay, Well, everyone, please watching an Apple TV Plus and please read the book. This will all be over soon, and come mean us in Great Barrington.
My don't chock um meeting the fans. We love me, and and please watch Saturday Night Live when it comes back. Maybe we'll both be on it, maybe one of us will be, maybe neither of us will be. Who we're gonna who knows what the future may hold, but I won't be on it. Everyone, you'll be crying on Vanessa's show. I know. I hope I get it. I'm very excited for it. Yeah, you should ask the writer's room for that.
I know when I go into visit the writers, I'll be like, so I really think I should cry when I go in to visit the writer's time on the show kind of going when I stay high. They yes, it's good, you know. Sure, I guess. I guess I'm not invited in there yet, so I guess I don't know, but I would like to come Nassa Jeremy let me know him around anyways. Um, God, damn it. You are the best. And this was literally something that we've waited for for a very long time, and we're so excited
for you. The show. The show is so good at plural because you're so great on SNL. As we know Alla John and Shmika. Dune is we love and I Am coming to that fucking um you. We're giving you a copy. Good yes, good yeah good, well this was huge, Bowen. We end every episode with a song Smith good Dune where the sun shines right from July Dune June for the rest of that song. You gotta watch dude, streaming now on Apple TV Plots. Bye Bye,