LangTime Chat, Episode 25: Language Sketch Evolution, Part II

account, I guess, I just wish it would have given me some kind of warning, I had no idea what was coming. You had no idea that you were the one who hit record and that they were going to start recording you are you sure this episode 25 I am sure I. went and verified and then I remembered oh yeah I remember, making a comment about how we've been doing this for two years and that was exciting, but I went in verified on patreon.

And indeed, this is 25 all right, and this is part two of a little mini series it's really just going to be to this is it, this is part two, so if you're not up to date, maybe you want to start with episode 24 before joining in here, because in episode 24 we. We created a little like produce sketch, and then we both worked on it individually and some of our patrons work done it too, and so we're going to see some results today.

i've seen the patron results that were sent you have not seen anything extreme laziness prevented, and I have not seen yours and so. What you can't see on the podcast is I actually created a whole slide show for today so we're going to be very organized in our discussion. But like when we actually put this up on YouTube as a video you know people will be able to see and i'll totally like share this presentation, but it really helps with the keynote of the PDF yes.

Okay, do you have animations No, I do not have any animations and sounds great. yeah so let's go ahead and click to the next slide because what I wanted to do first was just remind because, even if you know you watched episode 24. It may have been a whole month since you've seen it, and so I just wanted to remind people about what.

Our inventory was oh your computer has the red underlines on We may want to hit play because read underlines are going to be everywhere, after this oh no Let me take away the red under me help you out with that yeah. check check spelling well type oh wonderful now we won't have those ugly red lines. Okay, so I think like one of the or two of the like bigger features I won't read through all the sounds again but two of the bigger features were that we only had voiceless stops.

And we had announced created in aspirated variance which definitely played a role, I know, and how a lot of people treated sound changes. And then we also had vilar and you Hubert sound so it's like we skipped palate over really only had that political approximate but then we had bueller stops up lunch stops and then we have the voiceless advocate of of each. Other so there's an error here that i'm going to fix. Oh he's changing, but let me show you have to change on the next screen to.

turn back okay So yes, this was the fun ology not just be produced on inventory OK, so the wild color scheme i'm going to describe this to those who are listening can see it it's truly extraordinary, so we have a mixture of black backgrounds and dark Gray, and then kind of a. I want to say, like an et Sedan blue. pea green This is like this is like shag carpet from the early 70s and then busy yellow which I mean it's it's straight out of a table top from a Bowling alley and in 1977.

I was going for 1979 but i'll take it all right wonderful world still be around it'd be a little more faded those would be the lighter and it's very true. mm hmm OK, so those were our consonants and then on our vows can go to the next slide bows we had a five file system, but instead of EA. We didn't have an O, and we had a shot instead and so that is our file system so not quite the classic but really close.

Okay, just took the down arrow sure can then we came up with five verb roots and seven known roots and so we have words for to sleep give pickups it and why. And these are going to keep coming back, but what we were going for I was really trying to get a good mixture of, especially those consonants getting them like all over in terms of like having, for instance. to sleep, we have cup where you have like unnecessary to K at the beginning in and aspirated P, at the end.

versus things like I can Ki. Ki Ki Ki, which was to pick up. My favorite word was haley which is daisy and then our nouns we had rock person child daisy stick rest in health and we were going for a variety again of sounds but also we wanted nouns and verbs that could come together to form little sentences if we wanted. These were not as Variety is when came two syllable shape I discovered yeah That is very true the syllable shapes. We really yeah.

They were not good for board internal coda's and two of them work. I mean, I think we're really going for like getting that you've either vilar distinction and we got stuck on that, and so we have all sorts of those but we've done it yeah you're right. there's obviously so much more that we do from here, we also decided that this language would be fee so and had initial so those were the decisions we made, we did yeah we sure did, and it was even in the document that was chaired.

That all of us remember that if you scroll down, it should have been the description well this will really be this will really be a surprise. Okay, so we will find out, but first we're going to focus on sounds wish, or should not mess up the whole thing. we're going to talk about sound changes first i'm going to start with just running through with how my modern forms turned out, and like just highlight some of the.

changes that I did, and then i'm going to pull up your screens, which are right now blank other than having the roots and the meaning, so that we need to fill those in OK. So my and I separated them into verbs and nouns so that way you can more easily see them whenever you do see this wonderful presentation. Oh yeah that's right, I used I use the macro for my long vowel symbol, because I like how it looks.

It day was just shaking his head, so one thing that I did was I merged the feeler in vilar but I merged them in ways, where all the sounds. The consonants before in or an EU where you feeler and then it was a feeler in front of a front file so essentially they merge but and but it depends on what bell followed it.

Oh, that should be some key yeah I made a mistake, no, no, no it's because it's because it was in front of a show on the proto form and that then switch to an off balance will later right. So, so, for instance cup I can't do that Cup.

Of that that constant beginning became up lawyer, instead of dealer because it was in front of the bout So then, what is it that spelled with a K, instead of a Q Oh, because they're spelled with case throughout says totally predictable whether it's going to be a call.

Okay, one I forgot about that it was predictable yeah so it's not really predictable Okay, well then i'll spell it with a cute and make you happy we can change all these can you put it there, so I can change, it would make me happy. Instead okay there. But then like. is both coasts cranky it's both case because, when that sound change happened the clunky it was still ah wow, and so it didn't trigger the UV lawyer, and so it ended up being feeler clunky.

And oh I catch was and unstressed positions, and so I do still have a sha but I spelled it with no because it was like an available bow and, like the only time you see oh it's when it's the sra sound, so I realized, it was the now, but like there is no. Sound Okay, it was just I needed a balance, spelling and spelling schwann. But that doesn't always bold and Italic size, as well as you wanted to, but I did do this whole thing and notice and so that way, it would.

Work yeah all right okay so Those were my verbs on the nouns see more of these changes I voiced consonants. The stops in the upside of waste between dolls so that changed, for instance, a tool to do any stress CHA went to an unstructured was stayed up. I know the thing is I deleted any bottle at the end of a word for word final bottles were deleted and kota kota frickin lives were deleted, but then there was compensatory battling the name so like tough they became today.

And so yeah and the glottal stop remained Val interval Comically so like me, he still I still have my glottal stop. Alright, so Those are some of my sound changes that I highlighted there oh wait, I need to change the spelling of hill because that's in person, because both of those are Q oh gosh I have to change a lot i'm not a not a not a lot. of my examples later and then. This actually this could be fun, have you ever considered womanizing that yeah qh so. I like it hall yeah.

The whole you'll i'm sorry that's always a SWAT right, because even though it's spelled oh oh yeah. you're all in a SEC, can I pop up here it's really a regular, I know, but please let me, let me do this pop up and get pastor like. She said I was like how am I gonna. get everything I don't know what david's doing where is he going I tell you what okay so yeah this is really a regular now i'm just standing here.

But my so I was going to go through and change these fish was, but I feel like that would be too much work, and I remember that was my romanization scheme. And you know I forget this is my romanization scheme, this is my language, David doesn't get to decide what I do, I will change those two Hughes just for ease of remembering, but the rest of it's mine. And now we're on to the the really fun part which is to find out what david's were but he's not here.

And like i'm really deciding whether I should pause this because we only have an hour nice so. What happened over here it sounded like somebody went mad with power. That would happen it's not mad with power when it's my language, what I want to do with the power drunk. So all right now we're going to go down, and this is your slide so we have a slide for the romanization and our sorry not assigned but a column for romanization Okay, and then a column for IPA so I didn't.

Do a romanization Oh well, then, in that case we can get rid of the column, and just do it, I mean it could easily just make one but i'll try to give you a rundown very quickly of. So I had 23 sound changes. yeah I didn't do it, but romanization that I could easily do one so let's just yeah let's just do it let's just let's just go down line, these are all in order right.

Okay So here we go, so a cup becomes kava that 23 sound changes later still mostly recognizable and then do you did you put angle brackets I did square bracket little angle brackets okay that's an angle brackets, those are square bracket their square brackets. Alright, so please, so my English was Paul long yeah I don't think we got cues anymore in this language they're all gone. And here we go.

So so Okay, so the proto form suit with a glottal stop became so David and then so this this weird word what we have here a hunky to pick up and became. Honey oh that's fun yeah so yeah Nice. He may became you may. Like money in our language for. us. To lie to lie down on one should say came off of oh my gosh she chose to have a sound shocked that's good I like it alright So those are the first, and now we need to go to the next slide to get to your nouns yeah let's see here okay.

became too became a dupe very close. Very close to yours. Who yan became kesha. Mine was cool yeah. yeah so like you're going to discover that there's I mean it looks like not much changed, but there was a whole lot that got this here so technically is now Charlie was that yeah that went through something as a bit of a story. haley is la oh another story, I feel, though he is now Nick.

All right, Nice Patrice, this is the worst word I hated this word I absolutely hated this word might became lucky at least say that he said he said no bad he say and Z Z yeah there's the stress benny benny say everything I couldn't. grasp and cool yeah his Porsche Porsche nice okay yeah so i'm going to give you the. i'm going to give you the 10 second rundown.

Of what all happened to these sounds okay So the first thing absolute first thing I did is I said everything that ends in a content gets copied bell on the end I had to have that so that made things a lot easier. After that all the bottles disappeared gone all right, and then.

let's see the Hutton have disappeared in kota position we're leaving a long value behind it, so that was what happened to tough name, so now styling and double bells that were the same became long freakin lives went to H before a continent, so that was, for example. pasta. Right. Then they became just a regular ah that's a huge bueller. What is this.

boy is boys was boy What on earth is happening here obstetrician O stands for obstetrician observance voiced in between a voiceless thing and a vow that included maazel's so. keep that in between employees listening and about between invoices and invoice thinking about so key became clingy. But also like if there was an s in between browser was and puffed cheesy became Puck cheesy.

Also, this is a new one aspirated so aspirants asked for it still stays That was the first seven sound changes next aspirated constant went to a frickin IV and so that was where you know COP haha as it was at that point when to cut PA. C. He goes to consonant in front of the consonants, in other words the geminids so I. became.

A producer some geminids forgives went to plus voice in between bowels That was where Kafka became camera, and that was actually its final form it didn't change after that. But then the state, because it was a Gemini that's right and then geminids were lost and so that's how you got the voiceless breaks in between vowels. Val went to plus low after. A you what is a you know um let's see let's see what changed.

color yes, so a vow went to plus low after a up lawyer or basically it lowered after that so cool yeah I went oh yeah and then you bueller's merge with dealers, so the others are gone completely from the language of this point. A V, the veil that wasn't stressed went to low at the end of a word, so that changed, you know hunky 200 gay and see some other ones okta author because it's higher than on it wasn't stressed, who you beacons crew ya.

See, but this didn't it affects the lungs bounces that they were stressed Okay, so long as they were stress alright so that's the next seven after that wow that wasn't low and was stressed went to high. So that's my haley became unit that's right you flip flops because the stressors went up a step in the unstressed thousand dentists that precisely.

yep alright so then long vowels went to bow at the end of a word, so we lost long vowels at the end of a word unless it was the only valid the word so Sue stayed at an early stage, but like undo. didn't oh oh just for this changed summer Okay, so all of a sudden, I do have has a dip phone yeah is it here. Oh right a B minus low plus stress becomes a B, plus a high Val so like a do became we do.

But la went to was just basically la so, in other words the I didn't go to a bar and I, it became really whereas abby can he and Ob gyn ooh that's what happened all right, then we have this one, the long vowels loss of the end of the word list really only valid the word. The valid plus long age your attendance has been up for about three minutes yeah I know oh long vowels that were high long vowels that were high broke.

So Sue became so and need became the then long became yeah and you're just gonna have to accept that that's what happened, or that happened in Thailand, they became tiana talia begin Charlie. Charlie and my inspiration for this is Japanese where the word for cash was borrowed into Japanese, and you know, I was borrowed yes nice Okay, so that was the most controversial sound change. I think, and then Schwab before Val became Schwab or a valid was minus eyes, so I will became all.

nasal plus a stop just became a nasal so hung gay became kanye. Then I went to a yield in front of a vowel so try became Charlie. Then was at this thing happened the year plus of alby compatible or whatever so Charlie became Charlie and you're going to just because I like it.

And so we became cushion yep Okay, there you go so that's right David sound changes can you go down, and now, can you enter you said 23 yes okay so David had the most sound changes so we're about to do a comparison, so I want, and so I had a you can tell like what are.

I don't know I I, as I was joking with David because, at one point he had mentioned how many some changes, he was already on, and I was like oh i'm done with like he and I. And like that's like my least favorite who, I think, was the most sound changes the jays combined or the non Jews combined the jays combined because. No way, no, it may not be I think yeah the node js okay so David is looking at is we had for patrons submit you know what they did with it and so.

Out of those four three of them are Jason Jason Jonathan and jake and between me Jason Jonathan and jake we don't have as many sound changes as David. And miles that's right because miles had 22 sound changes so combined 45 whereas you have less 616 is 32 plus five is 37 because Jonathan and jake are like on my wavelength and it's like. A word good Jason had 16 um I know, though, that Jonathan wasn't finished and wanted to do more work, but it was also like.

had to had to send it to be included, and so, like, I know that we've done yeah Okay, so now we're just going to Oh, actually, can you pop up here can you copy your IP a column of the verbs like get it started highlighted gold ship, and I can do that oh and i'm going to control see. Try it again. anyways try it. it's control see right well I copy it all right okay now can you go down to this slide and we'll paste it there.

and see if it works yep perfect Okay, and then we'll do that on the downside, in just a second so now what we're looking at is a full comparison to look at all the different forms of our little language family that happened here, and so, for instance. We need a struggle cup cup cup there we go, of course, for me, became Hall, and for David became cover. For Jason it became.

worth, how is that is now how is my pronunciation go, it was good, I just don't understand it i'm four mile or sorry for Jonathan it became cup with like an Africa. For miles miles and Jay both had tone and so call low tone and jake's it's like a mid here cuff. Because they ended up getting asked for it, it doesn't often get questions all right you've gone well, I have the full documentation. um alright so to get no that wasn't to get yeah wants to give it suit.

For me, was soo David so and then we had several Sue forums across the board, Jonathan is the only one who kept the word final glottal stop and it's like boom one language that allows the you know the historical linguist to say that was a doctor. And we know it's because there's no other everybody thinks they're crazy and look these problems, no way was there a glottal stop at the end back it was there was and then cranky cranky.

I kid for me became kind of key, I have to say, a lot of these pronunciations seem a little unclear to me for David became kanye kanye kanye kanye short bow hanging exactly for Jason it became. hunky like it's funny every go on you, but this should be a super. Okay, so I I took what was in the document guys yeah I Jonathan has an Africa that I clunky I can't clunky it's like as yeah yeah. it's just like a K, but you delete release you know, so instead of.

john attended some great syllable so I didn't either when I took what was there and so anyway well i'm going to do it okay well david's adding adding syllables Jonathan and then miles was cocky. And then jake's was. A human claiming for me became human for David email for Jason shaman for Jonathan commit and then miles, we have a may and jake we have pain look at that jake is the one jake someone that preserves the regulars yeah we know they were there wow and then ask tough.

Mine was up David was. Jonathan i'm sorry I thought huh. Jason was asked up. Jonathan gets another Africa hear us so. miles top and jake was. OK. OK OK OK go. Okay it's good stuff now can you go back up because I can't move you can't hear oh right on the table back here we need we need your IPA for now all right. And copy and then go down to the manager there we go. OK, so now you don't again john Okay, so a two for me was I do David a do Jason zoo. Jonathan up to.

miles food to know terms and jake was it to me like a neutral a and then to come to. Korea across the board, we have Korea kosher wait years didn't change because it's in front of basketball, so the people are staying right yeah you've listed. Jason we have whole you, and then we have jolla quake quake there we go and call you call yeah oh yeah. holy.

Getting there i'm tackling quite a few of us got rid of the kota because we have today still there for a couple that's Johnny definitely tough lay. tile name they they think that was racing silently Dolly and then ty dolla very similar yeah i'm haley for daisy mixtape kaylee. David we have unit and then quite a few others, we still have a forms, and I think the only one only other one to drop the ages miles, we have he.

has some form of cable combined compared to all the rest of yours mine it's got a bow on it, and my mind is coming in with a rubber clown less than yours is the one that historical linguist or like what the actual and like. it's like Is this really related and you know that you kind of like in French were all of these chairs came out of nowhere well listen this next one, though kind of blew my mind me.

Because mine state me and so to jonathan's and jake's is like that to just with some tone yours was nay Jason went to me he and then miles to the. low value long yeah and so it's like my guess is that there was probably a drop like a like a consonant drop or something like that, and so that the end preceding the glottal stop because it is just essentially yeah.

Miller yeah yeah move forward and then the end dropped off that's truly bizarre though that is truly bizarre that's the one where it's like. Okay, and then put keys minus bucky your answers, of course, the. The he's a he's a he's a he's a I hate that word Jason says vicki's Jonathan we have again with that African I can't do piece just to do a table let's do it slow up here but keys. keys keys keys keys and then miles, we have pig and then, this one is a mid rising pay key.

Thank you, there we go and jake we have pokey. Finally, are very vital word which was cool yeah mine was holy yeah David hosier. Jason who show. Jonathan Hawk yeah I like that miles whole yea now wait hold yay and then jake is holy. Oh yeah oh yeah Oh, you know yeah okay that's jace. whoo okay some cool things that happened in the other farm not gonna obviously they just run through all the sound changes because there's quite a few, but some cool things that happened.

And jason's forums, the unexpurgated stops when I did and voice so like the p ended up becoming a. And so that was I thought pretty cool. jonathan's changes included that vow shifted when occurring before or after usually you feel or consonants.

But then the viewer and you have your consonants merge, so that it left some bows in a different form but like it looked like you know the proto forms would have been the same or something so like that was like a fun little you know ordering thing that happened. miles had three rounds of like tonal shifts that happen that resulted in low high high falling in low rising tone well jake had two rounds of tonal shifts that ended up resulting and rising falling and dipping tones.

But Tom can only be assigned to one syllable word and so like there was there were some changes that had that was. That happened after that interesting. So, like Tom was to introduce like early in the sound changes and then later in the sound changes it was like if one hadn't yet been assigned tone it was assigned tone, but they followed specific patterns and there was a whole chart it's like a stress time language but with. With tone set of stress just staying cool.

Alright, so as far as grammar goes most of everybody who submitted only did sound changes miles, however, did some sentences, so I wanted to include those. In miles stuck to the vso word order that was in the document that we talked about in the episode and you can see that word order in sentences like techie equate to. Which means the person picks up the rock and literally it's picked up person rock that's really good pronunciation Thank you and then.

Even when a like a indirect object is introduced, like the person gave the stick to the child you just get verb and then subject object one object to order all in a row, so you get like Sue away so queda de. la I did not do as good on that one because you gave me a compliment you soon, and then I guess I missed, you have you just mixed up those first two tons so quick de la.

And then we add a fun little bit here, where a locket of preposition which came from the verb to set the proto form was claiming. became a locket a prefix on nouns and the modern form because, like the verb for to sit in modern form is a May. High tones and the prefix form is just a with a high tone, but it changes the tone of the following syllable usually it lowers it from whatever it was it lowers to stop so i'm here, in the sense. We read the sentence for me with all the students.

up here let's see I don't know how this would be it's a long battle right but it's okay man rising okay I got it. got a big key here we go, so the child sleeps in the grass, but here it's like a key. became a and pay key so like that it lowered the tone of the initial syllable and picky Let me try that I think I got it i'm becky becomes.

A becky yeah yeah and as another example, then another sentence miles gave was the child picks up the DC on the Hill and so that same tonal lowering occurs in holy which is Hill and you get a full year mm hmm, and so this one is kochi they add a whole year mm hmm. holly's toner tunnel languages so that's what miles DEM. I did or give an absolute of I said so for my grammatical ization notes here.

I used the the noun for rock, which was a to in its original form, as an aggregate of prefix and it literally is like at the rock of X or after aka someone has viewed as instrumental and the person wielding the instrument as the agent. hmm so that's the original prefix and then I also did do like a data block of prefix that came from at the hill of X and so phil hall here in proto forms became.

A prefix so, for instance rock is I do and that's its absolute a form the plane form that are going to form of be allowed to do, and then the data form is full time to. Do it. Who would that yes, you're right because I should not put a you at the end, where there is no you. are a person who you became a queer or and then hopeful yeah Those are the three forms yeah so that was function.

I also had number marking where grass purchase became the plural suffix, in other words that scene is like blades of grass, so there are multiple and so like I do rock became a duper and jolla person became Cordoba. We have a very yummy got it stresses on the initial who yoga that's person, why is that one voice, neither one voices is there an age in the form of. A to yes, because that he kept it from placing right yeah.

And then I also did order word order, where it was possessive possessor and both matching case and so like persons Rock in absolute it would be a new Korea, but if it were like or give like child Stacy I have. utterly utterly utterly utterly that's fine or kills grass, you know in data both forms of have to be in Dave they match whole paki portfolio. So that is there a string so, then I also made a note that compounds were had initial and only.

As far as I know where i'm only going to allow now now compounds and so like Haiti by key is wildflower which is literally daisy grants thrilling. And then place names and people names to the same things and so daisy hill is a place in my little world who your Haiti is physical really nice. Alright, so on my burbs I made the verb for to lie the imperfections prefix and so us to lie added to for changes that into effective so like.

The child slept the bear form, here we have top food pilot but i'll cuckoo tally is the child is sleeping there are some suffixes in here. And that's because they match so oh yeah is person that became the third person animate agreement and meet he stick is the person inanimate agreement and it agrees with the absolute of argument and so he may go to. The child set versus like a mini do the rock SAP that's not quite right actually that's payment or.

Is it sure is your voice tubular stops in this language I sure do I can't save them, but I have them yeah you do you just vibrate your vocal folds where you're doing a Q so be mindful. He mental yeah chemical chemical like I was trying to challenge myself, I was just gonna I know the youth healers and I was like what a surprise David something all right, and then some other example sentences, like, I have the child picks up the daisy Kenya Donnelly.

versus like the person picked up the child or you can see the the verb changes from come kini to come to Kentucky cool country go to Korea Thailand and then the child, give the person, a daisy asuni Italia haley football yeah. it's really fun so Those were my examples. David I know what you did so let's see if I remember this. um let's see now I didn't because. Charlie his child isn't it. yeah so um. let's just. let's just do some copying pasting here okay.

we're gonna just you know just gonna yeah oh Okay, I see what you're doing yeah we're just going to take the verbs and put them in front. because someone forgot that it was the so order is that yeah yeah I mean ultimately it doesn't matter for everything else. I believe you did the same strategy I did with making to lie the imperfect. and Oh, my gosh it looks it ends up looking the same. terms of as a prefix except for the fact that mine is our. and yours into potentially being the.

The theta with it whenever it begins with a bow like oh yeah there's there's lots of stuff happening here. Man I don't know how I feel about this. it's like i'm 100% on board with the placement of everything now that I know where the you know for the supposed to be, but we'll just pretend. Well, I mean i'm being that it's our I mean what happens, sometimes in pro forums.

Through changes they change the word order sometimes yeah and so like you could argue that it's still do in terms of had initial like you could move everything back to where you had it and just say you went through a word or change, just like Arabic, did you know what yeah. So he's now and doing everything each and every. This will go very fast, because you can just hit the buttons for fast how fast, that is, is stop there okay so. There is a basic distinction between.

transitive and intransitive there is no distinction for noun number, or at least not at this stage because I didn't see anything that really inspired me so you need to get rid of that now number. You have all the stuff to get rid of it, I can't oh right, I do. How did you do it like are these entirely separate slides like yeah.

Okay Oh, I did it where I showed senses yeah it got it got it I just made some slides in there, so that we, we were ready for your examples Okay, I know what you actually did. yeah okay so then so now i'm function and let's see let's see how you okay Okay, so I think that what I just need to do is I just need to do this, is that right okay so word order determines. Now function, that is, who have done what. Okay. This necessitated a change in verb placement.

resulting in basic the seo word order done see yeah. noun possession didn't even go there, you went a lot further than I did. This we may. done good yeah what 23 sound changes i'm all like looking at the grammar I literally and you meant now, this may make more sense the day I literally woke you up at like six in the morning and david's not a morning person, mind you, but I was like I have an idea.

Language for grammatical ization I was so excited yeah and I spent the rest of that day and even took my laptop to a superbowl party, because I didn't want to stop working on the document. And that was because of the grammar section okay Oh, but I do have something else to add here so yeah no That was really something the nouns nouns me. Oh occur with a. definite. This prefix is. Before consonants. And or. Just K before. words that begin with I or.

Before words, beginning with other bells ultimately from you can probably guess so yeah yeah it's a with the J and then a sra Thank you yeah cool yeah which means person, yes, Nice. And I figured the Shah would drop off pretty easy and that leaves me with me and I was like well what would that become maybe qui and I was like do I want to go the query route or do I want to just say P, and then P, and so they just became key. Alright verbs so basic distinction.

You know, when you have nothing else you can always do duplication and so there is a. Basic distinction between. transitive and intransitive verbs transitive verbs occur. Are our basic roots in transitive verbs are a reduced location. The source of this duplication is. is zero derivation of the verb. Of the group verb route as a nominal object, for example, I slept a sleep.

Alright, and so, then the example that I have at the outset, Jamaica is the child slept and what that was it started off with Charlie kava kava but since the object gets the most stress the first one shorten to just a prefix so JESSICA, the child left so. A child that child will be teach me that's me give you like a cover right okay so then next that's one thing for verbs The other thing is there's a there's a distinction. Between perfect and imperfect. The various them is perfect.

The imperfect takes a. prefix ah before words. With a consonant. and Before words that begin they've all and remember a prefix yes that's how that's actually how you say it in French, but if he's like these. Well yeah so often remember it's off because it was originally a Gemini but yeah and then. source. From. Yes. With a. aspirated T Thank you.

Okay, so so yeah when when these sensors will will take care of this, and get them they're a bunch of them, but like it will just like give a few on this slide. But do you want to just read some of like a child gives sure so easy so like well let's do have versus that so check acaba a child slept kalika cover the child slept and now let's do the slept versus is sleeping so teacher Nick aka the child slept. The telly aka the child is sleeping so it's just a little prefix there.

let's see this one to share it with off the child is setting Italia famous that's what the in there and now with the transitive verb the verb is simpler, so we have. each other, you make a puja the child seated the person, so he today he may just the bare form. equation pooja.

matt is compared to the child Stat each other to me now, you might notice wow This is very light the differences ma ma when there's a duplication and that's because of the pro form of sit, which was claiming so remember it's it's doesn't start off as he starts off as. And so, originally this would have been AMA AMA right there duplicated form shortens up the AMA. then ultimately when it gets lost it leaves the two vowels next to each other and so that's why.

It was a long battle right something like that anyway, the point is we're duplicated forum is ma and the the basic forms email. Nice somehow I don't know let's see Oh, and like you can do this with is essentially what we call. Anti passive so jealous so jealous I hanging a child pick something up so it's implied that there's an object you don't have to list what it is because it's in the intransitive form, which means that.

You know there's no object listed but picking up implies a semantic object so it's like a child pick something up right. And so you wouldn't need anything for like something or anything like that versus a child picked up the child pick that the rock do you tell a good and there you hear the other form of the of the prefix there yeah. And then we have to say so that child gave the stick to the daisy. yeah, so this is um, this is a preposition I don't know what to put this.

preposition and it comes from sit. yeah preposition comes from sit, let me, let me just toss this on. nouns. can add another. let's how about. Indirect objects are preceded by the preposition. He. From. There we go yes alright so. The child gave the stick to the daisy obviously be jealous looking at and here there's some fun things with stress, because of course the.

The the the determiner right what is that the definite prefix that's never going to get the stress right so stick his name, and so the challenge is so key name. But then, you have a delay because this K is just getting added the front of La, which is the word for daisy so it does get the stress in the normal place but I, so I really liked that one. We have in the.

One is this the imperfect key Johnny I was looking at sorry ky jelly is looking at here we go the child is giving a stick to the daisy past few years and i'm all like he today so keeping ETA. yeah but this thing was, I mean this thing was juiced I mean look at this phonology this thing was this thing was made to be zip through like I killed everything that wasn't quick OK, so now yeah next slide.

Will it will copy and census there, so I translated two sentences that miles had to my language, and then I left a spot for you to put yours Okay, and so the first one is the child picks up the daisy OK so. The challenge. pick up pick up pick up right. In the boxes yeah in perfect so.

And then you cheated because it's a day both days yeah, I can tell a really nice and then the second sentence Oh, by the way, oh the child picks up the daisy in my language sketch became a boo boo hoo I gotta stop a kundalini about a few haley and then miles was colicky in. And then mine. each other, they are some good healer, no, no, no, no, a Ms the cake Charlie a fun day today very go.

got it Okay, and then, as you type that one the person gave the child, a stick in my language, was Sunni up we'll need for today in miles is language, it was soo acquainted to La was person. Who yeah what's the proto form Porsche Porsche and so Okay, because Jeff Porsche. Porsche so right yeah cuz it's gave and so it's past tense. The class sessions and coach so Kenyan. kosher subpoena um. yeah he pushed us to be made to Charlie yeah and so now.

How very different the same you know performs can become less it's like a really cool little experiment exercise, where we got to see just how different things could end up being and so that's really fine. whoo. This is good stuff. This was it and I as you're listening to the podcast like I said, I will make sure I put this. As an attachment, the presentation, so you can kind of go through with it and actually see the differences.

And I think the whole really help, otherwise it can be difficult to just hear all of these things going on and try to make sense, out of it but. Hopefully, we were able to narrow enough of what we were looking at to really highlight some of the cool things that happened yeah this is kind of looking at my it's kind of Nice because. It feels like this whole intransitive thing where you're taking a zero derived version of the verb as an object it ties it very strongly together.

which would interrupt the placement of the subject, which would be part of the motivation for playing the subject out in front. So I feel less bad about not looking at the document to see what the word order was we're remembering what the word order that we agreed on was my bad there yeah it is. And don't exit out of the presentation, because we're gonna come back and pick up, we can do multiple sites, we can get all your example sentences and.

The only reason I stopped you from doing it here is that copying and pasting from pages to keynote at like keeps the formatting from pages, which is so not helpful. Instead of taking the format from the slide over trick good. Excellent so that will be good bit you can make that happen and we'll do that when we're not like reporting dead air as you copy and paste.

So I hope we hope you enjoyed this two part special episode of developing a language sketch, and all the different ways that you can take some very simple forms and. Even a small system and through really a different number of sound changes across the board, come up with some some very different results on the modern form. I know that that was a really good send off that I am i'm so happy to just end it there, but. OK.

OK. nevermind nevermind you're going to end it there yeah yeah yeah no I was just I question about your senses, but no I get it, I get it nevermind okay it's all good okay so we're good, and we are now going to. say goodbye oh alright grammar was a nice thing to say, and we will see you next time bye bye everybody. Oh, what to do now well, you have to go to the Morgan Morgan. Stop recording by everyone and stop recording okay hold on. Oh, there you go okay now stay grammar.