The top five shows to air during this year, 60 Minutes at number one on CBS with a 20.9 rating. Home Improvement number two from ABC with a 20.4 rating. Seinfeld number three from NBC with a 19.4 rating. Roseanne. At number four, with a 19.1% rating on ABC. And number five, Grace Under Fire. ABC 17.7 rating. A new sci-fi drama series starring David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson debuts on Fox with 12 million Americans tuning in to watch X-Five.
Actor Vincent Price loses his battle with lung cancer and dies at his home in Los Angeles. Just a few more days later, at the end of that month, River Phoenix at the age of 27 dies on the sidewalk. Outside a popular West Hollywood nightclub, the Viper Room calls a death as a drug overdose. A first-person shooter PC video game Doom is released. The artist Prince changes his name to a symbol.
Top songs for this year. Number one, I Will Always Love You from Whitney Houston. Number two, there it is, Tag Team. Number three, can't help falling in love, UB40. Number four, that's the way love goes from Janet Jackson. Number five, freak me by silk. Number six, Weak by SWV. Number seven, If I Ever Fall in Love by Shy. Number eight, Dream Lover by Mariah Carey. Number nine, Rump Shaker by Rekkance and Infection. Number 10 and Fama by Snoke.
The Toronto Blue Jays defeat the Philadelphia Phillies in six games to become the seventh franchise in MLB history to win back-to-back championships. The Dallas Cowboys defeated the Buffalo Bills. to win the Super Bowl 52-17. The Chicago Bulls defeated the Phoenix Suns 99-98 in the final to win four games to two for the NBA final. And now for the Oscars. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the category is actor in a leading role.
Five outstanding actors in five quite remarkable performances. I'm very proud indeed to announce the nominees, and they are... in In the Name of the Father. I swear to God, I know where I was at the time before. Have you any other advice? I had told you before. I was with Paul almost. This is statement. I don't do that. Laurence Fishburne in What's Love Got To Do With It? I ain't the one that needs help! You the one that needs some help! What y'all think about this song, huh?
Huh? No, no. It ain't cool. It ain't cool till I say it's cool. This is Ike and Tina. And you gonna sing like I tell you the same. Till you get it right. You understand me? Tom Hanks in Philadelphia. I am devised. I am oblivious. I am the God. from the heavens to the earth and make of the earth Anthony Hopkins in the remains of the day. In my philosophy, Mr. Benn, a man cannot call himself well-contented until he has done all he can to be of service to his employer.
Of course this assumes that one's employer is a superior person not only in rank or wealth but in moral stature. And Liam Neeson in Schindler's List. It's a haven for rabbis and orphans and people with no skills whatsoever. You think I don't know what you're doing? You're so quiet all the time. I know. I know. Are you losing money? No, I'm not losing money. That's not the point. It's not the point. It's dangerous. It's dangerous to me.
and the Oscar goes to Tom Hanks in Philadelphia It is a pleasure to be here tonight and to announce the names of these five wonderful performances. The nominees for Best Actress are Angela Bassett in What's Love Got to Do With It? Stockard Channing in six degrees of separation. How do we fit it into life without turning it into an anecdote? No teeth.
punchline your mouth over and over, years to come. Oh, that reminds me of the time that imposter came into our lives. Oh, tell the one about that boy. Holly Hunter in the piano. He can't read. He's ignorant. He wants to improve himself. And he'll be able to play it. Teach him how to look after it. Emma Thompson.
In the remains of the day. To your father who left the dustpan in the middle of the floor. It is he who is leaving polish on the cutlery. It is he who has confused the Chinaman. You must recognize this before he commits a major error. I'm afraid you can't talk to me like this, Miss Kenton. I'm afraid I must, Mr. Stephens. I'm giving you serious advice. Your father should be relieved of a number of his duties for his own good.
Deborah Winger in Shadowlands. Managed to find us. Yes, I used the guide. It's just that you don't look at all like C.S. Lewis. I'm sorry to disappoint you. Actually, look, I'm a little in awe of you, and so I'm a little tense. And when I get like that, I get caught. And the Oscar goes to Holly Hunter. Evening gets long about this time, and there's five anxious nominees out there, so I'm going to kind of cut to the chase. I'll have the names of the presenters, right?
It's running a teleprompter on me. I was gonna do this without the teleprompter, too. Okay, the nominees for director this year. Jim Sheridan in the name of the Father. Jane Campion for the piano. James Ivory for the remains of the day. Steven Spielberg for Schindler's Lift. And Robert Altman for Shortcuts. So we won't go far here. The Oscar goes to, this is a big surprise, Steven Spielberg. The last Oscar is for Best Picture and the nominees are... The Fugitive, Arnold Copelson, producer.
In the name of the Father, Jim Sheridan, producer. The Piano, Jan Chapman, producer. The remains of the day, Mike Nichols, John Calley, Ismail Merchant, producer. Steven Spielberg, Gerald R. Mullen, Franco Looswig, producers. And the Oscar for the Best Picture of 1993 goes to Schindler's List. Steven Spielberg, Gerald Mullen, and Branko Lushwick producers. And the year was 1993.
Welcome to Land of the Creeps Horror Podcast. I'm your host Greg Amortis calling in from North Kaki Laki. That's North Carolina to all you Northerners and you're listening to episode 425. baby and this is our top five horror movies from the year 1993 and i dare say probably not a dare named one of them will probably make our top 10 at the end of the year but that's all right it's 1993 we're going to do our top five
We were originally going to have a special guest on tonight, Gary Hill. And unfortunately, he was not able to make it. And I don't... We'll just leave it at that because I don't know how much he wants out, but he did send or he does send apologies and he did want to be on and he will be on really soon in the near future, hopefully. So anyways, he's not going to be on. So it's going to be the crew tonight. It's going to be us four.
ranking our top five horror movies from the year 1993. So without further ado, let's go ahead and welcome in the crew. We'll go first outside of Philadelphia, PA. Welcome in Mr. DVD Infatuation himself. He is the myth, the man, the legend. He is the Encyclopedia of Knowledge. Dr. Shock, Dave Becker. What's up, Dave? Hey, Greg, thank you. And yeah, 93 was a well, for me, it was sort of a. a different you this this was i've told the story before how i mean i started dating jackie
And it was January of 93. And I believe it was the beginning of February 93 where we saw Army of Darkness, which means I was kind of out of horror. For the rest of 93. So I'm seeing a lot of these movies. Some of them for the first time. Others I've obviously seen before. But it's just. I don't think I missed as much as I thought I missed.
Jackie took it all away. She took it all away. She was the reason. I'm like, oh my God, I could be missing all this great stuff. Okay, let me watch this and let me watch that. If I'm going to miss a year, 93 might be the year. You didn't have to miss much, brother. She probably saved you a lot of heartache. It could have turned out that way. Thank you, Jackie. Yes. Because she's awesome that way. We know her. Yeah.
It's still going to be fun because I still like the movies. I like the ones on my list and I have things to say about them. It's just, you know... Which ones will be around when we do, what is it, November or December when we do the big list? It's going to be hard to say. Yeah, I think maybe one. I might have one that might pop up, but I doubt it. I might have one if we do a top ten. If we do a top five, forget it. If we do a top ten, I might have one.
Well, cool. Good to have Doc on there. And let's go ahead and go to Canada. And we'll welcome in the butcher himself. He's just getting out of the butchery of school. Let's welcome in our man. Well, he can introduce his podcast as well, but let's welcome him, Bill the Butcher Van Vagel. What's up, Bill? It would be more appropriate as someone handling meat to be, I'm coming in from the grind. Oh, good point, good point. The grind. Anyways, 1993 to me was a very formative year in my life.
It was my first year off to university. So first chance away from mom and dad and, you know, drinking beer sky high for 14 hours a day. But it was also a year that had some ups and downs. For music-wise, you had ACDC's Big Guns. You had Soul Asylum's Runaway Train. You had Pearl Jam's Don't Call Me Daughter. You got blind melons, no rain. Runaway train, not coming back.
Wrong way on a one-way track. You got Lenny Kravitz. Are you going to go my way? Aerosmith living on the edge. Come on, hit that living on the edge, Drake. Oh, my God. No. No. Go ahead. Oh, that's what she'll be thinking about when you go to sleep. Oh, that one part in that song goes... living on it i love that part man i'm sorry okay i'm bigger but it was that me everybody knows i'm a huge sports fan 1993 You can stop now, Bill. All I'm going to say is Mitch Williams.
And that was fine with me. But it was also the last year a team from Canada won the Stanley Cup. Abitant de Montréal defeated the Los Angeles Kings in the Stanley Cup final. Oh, wow. Patrick Waugh was brilliant. Marty McSurley and his illegal stick call. And when did he go to, well, it would have been the Avalanche. Colorado. Pretty soon after that. 96. 95? It's later than I thought. Because they were playing a game against Detroit, and the coach kept him in for seven goals.
He walked over to the bench and the owner was sitting right behind the bench and said, That's the last game I remember playing for you. Oh, wow. Anyways, to get us off topic, this is an interesting year. And I was telling the boys before this show that... There might be one to two carryovers, and then the rest is your flavor for that moment.
so i am really curious what people put on depending upon and and the other thing is in 1993 not every movie that's available was that easy to find so if you hadn't refreshed yourself on one it might have passed you by so i'm really curious about these uh lists we got
that's right i'm super excited bill i can't wait to get into this uh uh see how many crossovers we have i don't think we're going to have a ton i think there'll be one or two like you mentioned after that i think it's going to be smooth sailing so we're excited so let's go ahead and welcome in the The love of my life, the twisted tempest herself. Pearl, what's up, love? Hey, everybody. Hi. Hi.
You know what? What? My 1993 important information is Warhead Sweet and Sour Candy came out. Oh, yuck. Hershey's Cookies and Cream. And... Branches, them bones, chalky, tangy, bone-shaped candy for Halloween. The bone candy. Oh, my God. It was like the cigarette stuff. It's so chalky. It was so chalky. chalk your teeth oh my god yeah that was nasty whoever invented that
Yeah, they're probably in hell right now. It's what was left over from when they couldn't do the cigarettes anymore. What can we do? Let's make bones. Let's make these bones. These will taste great. It's the powder that fell off the floor and they swept her up. Yeah, that's what it tastes like.
Holy crap, dude, those were nasty. But Hershey's cookie and cream, the candy bar? Yeah, the candy bar. I mean, I'm not too great. I love cookie and cream, but I'm not too great about the bar. It's not bad. It's not bad. Oh, that's not terrible. But I'm excited. And I do want to also say out and say hope.
healing vibes and everything i hope gary hill gets better and that's right I love Gary Gary we miss you you've got the keys to the door just come in when you're ready and then next time even the next episode regardless of what it is call in with your 93 list if you get a chance just don't get as far behind as William I love it. We love you, William. Don't worry, Kyle. Kyle Bishop's awesome.
That's the crew for tonight. We do want to mention that Pearl and I are super excited. We got somebody coming in to see us this weekend. So as we're recording, it's Wednesday. So two days away, Pearl. Yeah, well, day and a half. Day and a half. That is a hell of a guest. The epic meeting between the Mortises and Justin Beam. So it's going to happen. He's going to hang out at the house for a couple days. Oh, I thought it was going to be your dad.
Well, you know, he can come see me anytime he wants to. Could he ever sit through three hours of a podcast? My dad? I'm sure my dad could, absolutely. He's a talker. He could join it. You know, can we choose like 1969 or something? Oh, he would be right in there. He would probably do great at that. That would be my birth year, and I could tell you right now, it would rival 93.
How many episodes have we done? Pick your birth year. Every time it comes up, I'm like, oh, shit. I got to find another one. I can barely find one. That's right. So we're excited to have Justin come in, and I'm sure we'll do something, a video or two or something. We'll do something, man. We got two, man. JV's my boy, and I cannot wait to.
Pearl and I get to hang out with them and we got some cool little ideas that he doesn't even know that we're going to some places we've never been we're going to take them so it's going to be fun. I was going to say I sent a Canada package to Sean. Nice. So he gets to experience Swedish berries for the first time. Hell yeah. Haddonfield, watch it now. Get that maple syrup in there. You'll never be the same. I'm just saying. That Canadian maple syrup is really sweet. Get it on in there. Yes, sir.
Alright, so let's go ahead and... I don't know what you're talking about, but get it on. That's what she said. Yeah, she absolutely said that. Let's go ahead and get our shots in, and we'll do that, and then we'll go ahead and get into this. We're doing, once again, our top five horror movies in 93. Once we do our list, we do it round robin, so we'll start with...
Our order will be Dr. Shot Dave Becker, then we'll go to Bill, and then we'll go to Pearl, and then myself, and we'll count them down from five. all the way down till we get to that number one and then after that we'll get to you the listener the calls that came in we had quite a few of those we'll get to so we're super excited so let's go ahead and get our shots in Jim Beam and Honey for me, of course. White label.
And it's in my Utah shot glass that Pearl and I got when we visited Jay of the Dead last year. God, it's been a year. Exactly a year. Yeah, it's been exactly a year. Today? Today. Wow. A year today. Holy cow. That was a year. I can't believe that.
It feels like yesterday, like I can still... smell utah and you say smell it yeah it has its own aroma and the beautiful snowcat mountains it's such a gorgeous it is it is beautiful very clean air and it's just great if you've never been to Utah man I highly recommend everyone take a trip to Utah And, yeah, just visit. But I've got my Utah shock glass full of Jim Beam and Honey. Dave, what you drinking?
I have Jamaican Me Crazy. Go back to Jamaican Me Crazy in my Wawa 20-ounce thermos, I guess it would be. Nice. Good. I'm loving that the Jamaican Me Crazy has made its comeback. I like that. It is back. Yes, for 93, I had to do something to liven it up. There you go. Well, let's go to Bill. What you drinking? Before I mention my drink, I just want to thank everybody who listens to music, movie, sports and stuff. Keep up. I love the appreciation and the talking with the audience.
For my drink. Wait a minute, though. I've heard of that before. Have you heard of that? Yeah, I've heard of that. Is it to your pleasure of your ears? It is to my pleasure of yours. Two episodes in, you're doing great. There we go. So far, so good. I would love everyone to tell their friends, tell their enemies. I don't care who you tell.
For a drink today, I had to quickly, as I told people before, I was behind. So I just grabbed some Sunny Delight, and I mixed in some Original Rockstar, and I'm ready to rock. Nice, Sunny D. I'm trying to picture somebody telling their enemies. Yeah, right. Hey, asshole. Why don't you listen to music, movies, sports and stuff? Yeah, asshole. You dickhead. Yeah. Wow. What's Emory? Oh, God. Chainsaw Mastery. What's Emory? God dang it. Drill Sergeant.
Oh, Arley Ermey. Arley Ermey. Thank you. I can hear him right now. Listen here, asshole! You better listen to that music for... You hear what I'm saying? Grabastic pieces of puke. I love it. Pearl, what you drinking on there before we get to? You know what? I'm just drinking plain old cold water. Okay, plain old cold water. Halfway through the episode, I will have some Dr. Pepper Cherry. There you go.
Is that your code word for cough medicine? Yeah. And by the way, if you're new to the podcast, yes, we are explicit. I think you found it out. And we hold nothing back. That's right. Oh, you're going to spoil it. Tough shit. The good thing is that we have no sponsors, so we can't piss nobody off. And the joke was not, George Carlin's joke was not seven things you can't say on a podcast. I keep waiting for the sponsorship for that men's grooming product.
Is that one where they give you the razor to go down there? Oh, yeah. There you go. That would be all right. Rogaine for men, too. There you go. Hey, you want to sponsor LOTC, hit me up, man. We'll figure out something. Okay. As long as there are no demonstrations. I'm always the before.
Yeah. I need the Jim Beam sponsorships is what I need. I think Jim Beam would be a good sponsor. Absolutely. They would be fine. I need them to send us some liquor. And we've got to find the world's greatest maker of squirty juice. Rock. I mean, let's be honest. At this point, any sponsor would be fine. We'd be like, what was the Bad News Bears? Chico's Bail Bonds. Chico's Bail Bonds, yeah. We'll have that.
It's platter all over our shirts. Yeah, there you go. All right. Somebody listening to the first time is like, what the? fuck is this show? Hang on, it gets better. Hang on. We'll get to horror in a minute, we promise. Until you get to 93, there's your horror. 15 minutes in, we'll get to it. Alright, so here we go. We're going to count it down. 3, 2, 1. Oh, yeah. And that's got that tingling.
The Jim Beam and Honey has that tingle. It goes down. If you had the Werther's Original in your mouth while you drink it, it has a different flavor. So I just finished my Werther's and then took the chug so it has a little tingle. I like that. I got to remember that. So how long do we got before you pass out?
probably about 34 minutes so in about 30 we got to do this quick 34 minutes okay two minutes per movie go super excited so let's go ahead and we're just going to jump right into this thing so like i said we're going into our top fives will do it round robin dave bill pearl then myself and we'll go from five to one
So let's go ahead, Dr. Shotless. Without further ado, take over for number five. I am just trying to track down my write-up of my number five. You thought I'd have done this before. I was too busy. Dave is a consummate professional, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, exactly. He could teach courses. Nothing but professionalism on this podcast. Okay. All right. Well, my number five.
is a made-for-TV movie that was going to be a television series. It is Body Bags. Oh, nice. John Carpenter's Body Bags. It's John Carpenter and Tobey Hooper. who directed this, I guess. And it's it's an anthology and it's hosted by the coroner played by John Carpenter. And it has three tales in it. First is the gas station where a college student played by Alex Thatcher spends her first overnight shift as a gas station attendant worrying about a serial killer on the loop.
second one is hair, which, uh, Stacey Keats stars in that one. He plays this middle-aged guy who's, well, he's losing his hair. He thinks it's going to affect his relationship with his girlfriend Megan, played by Sheena East. Boy, that doesn't take you back to the 90s.
And he's trying everything to keep from going bald. And he puts his trust in Dr. Locke, played by the great David Warner. I mean, anytime you see David Warner, it's going to be a it's going to at least be an interesting movie. I'm not going to say David Warner was in was in great movies. start to finish, but it's always going to be interesting and he's always fun. He's developed a new procedure that guarantees hair growth. Closing out is I.
This was the only one not directed by John Carpenter. This was the one that Toby Hooper directed about a minor league baseball player played by Mark Hamill. He's on a hitting streak, and he's sure to get a call to the big leagues, but there's a car accident that cost him his right eye, bringing his career to an end. But Dr. Lang, played by John Agar, the great John Agar. Tells Brent about a potential medical breakthrough, a procedure in which Brent will receive an eye transplant.
It's a success, but when Brent starts experiencing grisly visions, he can't help but wonder whose eye he received. It's almost like the movie The Eye, which came out later. That was early 2000s, even I think the Japanese version. or either late nineties or I'm pretty sure it was in the two thousands though. Um, But one of the things I liked about this was the cast. The gas station has a ton of like cameos in it. Robert Carradine is in this. She plays the co-worker.
David Naughton. He drives off without his credit card. He's a customer who drives up and drives off without his credit card after paying for gas. Sam Raimi and Wes Craven turned up in cameos. And in the hair, Debbie Harry is is the doctor's nurse who flirts a little bit with Stacey Key. And Kim Alexis and even Greg Nicotero shows up in that one. And then in I, along with Hamill and John Agar, you get Twiggy.
You get Roger Corman and even John Carpenter's wraparound segments have a couple of fun cameos. When you get Toby Hooper and Tom Arnold turn up at the end as a pair of morgue workers. So, yeah, there's definitely comedy in this. I think one of the really fun things about it is John Carpenter's wraparound. Seeing John Carpenter introduce the... Now, it was it was going to be.
It was going to be a series. And personally, I liked the gas station the most. If I were to pick a favorite, I'd say the gas station is probably my favorite of them all. But there are but I think they all have, you know. you get that's what's the most suspenseful but they all have a little something going for them hair though is is the one that's like comedy that's probably the one I'd say is the most comedic is Hair.
And John Carpenter just seems to be having a good time. And it's so much fun to see him introduce these. I really wish that they had green lighted the series just so we could have seen more of John Carpenter's introduction.
It's almost like it could have gotten to the level of like when Alfred Hitchcock did Alfred Hitchcock Presents. I mean, that made, that's what, I mean, everyone knew him as a director, but doing those introductions when Alfred Hitchcock Presents, that's what made him a household name. when he did those for his TV show. And that's all he did for his TV show. I'm listening to a podcast now, and it's going over the history of Alfred Hitchcock.
They offered him millions of dollars to just lend his name and record the openings. He didn't pick the stories. He didn't direct them unless he wanted to direct them. If he wanted to direct one, they let him. But they just said, we're going to use your name. And if you can film these opening segments, you can do a whole bunch of them at once. We'll give you, I mean, this is going back to the fifties. It was millions of dollars. So he basically was set for life for that.
And I would have loved to have seen I think I would have loved to have seen Carpenter continue with something like that. But anyway, that is my number five body bags. Yeah, I totally agree. I wish they would have continued that, man. It's such a fun movie. Anybody got out anything else on that one?
Well, I was just going to say, I wonder why they chose not to continue pursuing this potential venture. I think it was, was it not a money issue? I think it was one thing. I'm thinking it was a money issue. I could be wrong on that. I think it might have been. The three segments in the movie were going to be the first three episodes. And then John Carpenter just tied them together to make to make this film. I would if I was guessing they were trying to go after Tales from the Crypt.
on hbo this was showtime was going to put this out and they were trying to go after uh hbo's tales from the crypt um But they eventually just said, no, we're, you know, we're not going to do it. And I don't exactly know why. I think the Blu-ray that came out from Shout Factory. or I guess Scream Factory technically, I'm wondering if it has a commentary on there. It would be great if it's John Carpenter because you know he'd give you all the details.
I do love that opening skit, the one with Robert Carradine. Yeah. He is unhinged. He's really good in that. I really like Robert Carradine in that, yeah. You know, it's one thing to see him, you know, running around with women's panties on his head, but it's another thing to see him. hearing an axe. Yeah, right. I used to be able to do that laugh. I can't do that laugh. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I've got the Blu-ray, but I don't have it right beside me, the one from Screen Factory, so I don't know what all the features were on it, honestly. Yeah, such fun. It would be great if there's a... There usually are a lot of good features. yeah definitely especially this was early uh shout factory so this was i mean that's the kind of movie where you could buy them in the seven dollar bin at walmart yeah it's not as expensive anymore well now now you can yes you're absolutely right
Cool. All right. Well, body bags for Dave. Let's go to Bill. Bill, what is your number five? All right, so I was telling everyone beforehand, this one literally got cemented in my list about 15 minutes before because I literally was juggling about seven films for five spots. But I went with not necessarily the ones that were the best made films, but the ones that stuck with me the most. If you say 1993, which of the films I saw stick with me. And so I stayed very true to my roots.
for my number five. And it's a film that I'm willing to bet, let's just say we had 100 listeners, 97 haven't seen. But the three that saw it, they ain't forgetting. And that's 1993's one hour and five minute film, Schramm. Written by, directed by good old fan favorite, Jorge Butgere. who did Necromantique back in 1988. And I'm not going to candy coat this. This is extreme and bloody. But it is a poor man's version of Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, where the movie opens.
with a man lying bloody on his apartment floor. And then you go back to find out what kind of a person it was. It's like a Carlito's way. And you play back what led to the film's introduction. And it is low budget. It is a gore fest. It is a exploitation film. But it's, to me, 99% of the world out there is going to go bail your growth.
I find it actually quite a calming film. The score is brilliantly dark It's shot like in a film, kind of like the way you'd imagine Clark Griswold in National Lampoon's Vacation 2, where he's got the VCR, the camera that's on your shoulder.
the opening scene two religious people it's in german so you have to read the subtitles two religious people come to the guy's apartment door to try to sell them on jesus christ and have you changed your life and have you found god And he invites them in for tea and coffee, you know, have an aperitif, as they say. and starts and slices the guy's neck open, spraying the wall, hits the other girl over the head with a hammer and kills it.
And you get what happens there. There's a scene later of self-mutilation that will make Antichrist seem like Walt Disney. The last scene is one you're not going to forget. But is it gritty? Yes. Do I expect people to run out there and watch this? But if you are a gore hound, if you are an independent movie fan, if you are somebody that wants something that's a little, not just a little, way outside of the box, I suggest SRAM. It's only an hour and five minutes.
Never heard of it. Never heard of Schramm? I have never heard of it. I can't say I've heard of it either. Who is the director again? Jorge Bucharest. The same guy that did Necromantique. Necromantique. And didn't he follow that up with one of the Ernest movies? Ernest goes to the penile colony. Ernest self mutilates. No, I've not seen, I have honestly not heard of this either. Where did you, is it on Tubi? I found it on YouTube.
Oh, on YouTube. Okay. But it's also on a site I love. I don't know how many people have been to. It's called effedupmovies.com.
But it's not obscure because he's a pretty well-known director in that genre. It's just that it's... you know it's i wouldn't say it's trauma level because traumas are silly over the top this is just cheap over this more like in what who is that eaten back yeah yeah same same thing but there will be maybe i can guarantee you there's maybe five listeners that have seen this and they go, yeah, Bill, you got it.
Well, let us know if you've seen it. Schramm, S-C-H-R-A-M-M. S-C-H-R-A-M-M. There you go, German flick. And it's funny, on IMDb, it's not horror first, it's drama first. And then horror. There you go. Two people get sliced up at the beginning. The poster is literally a guy's neck sliced off. Right. Yes, it is. But it's drama. And you know what? I'll tell you what. For a horror film on IMDb to get a 5.7 is not bad. And that's with...
That's with over 3,000 votes. It's not like just 20 votes or something. That's like over 3,000 people have rated this. 3.7 thousand. So 3,700 people rated this. And they got a 5.7 out of 10. And I'll tell you, for horror on IMDb, that's not bad. But actually, at five or above, I'm like, this could actually be worth seeing. I got to look up the main actor, Florian Coroner Von Gustor.
Well, you can figure 3,000 people, so 2,998 that weren't filmmakers voted on this thing. So, yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. there we go corner von gustorf yes and then later he had he had a falling out with his agent he became the actor formerly known as florian corner he became the minion in shrek there you go All right, well, there you go, Shrams. Let's head over to Pearl. Pearl, what is your number five?
Before my number five, I want to put a disclaimer that my list might possibly have a couple of ties in there. Would we expect it any differently? No way. You found ties in 93. I am impressed. I'm anxious to hear what these are going to be. But first. But first. My number five. A reporter, Lori Tanner, investigating a story about an animal cruelty gains access to a facility where dogs and cats are being subjected to cruel experiments conducted by a Dr. Jarrett.
After seeing the conditions of the lab, Lori flees the building. A massive dog escapes and follows her. She decides to keep the pet as he's called Max. And by seemingly lovable canine, he is genetically altered with an unusual ability and psychotic tendencies that set him on a killing spree. And this is man's best friend. Nice. I had a feeling this was going to make your list because I think you've talked about this before. I have.
Yeah. Especially having the cast of, like, Lance Henderson, Ally Sheedy, Robert Constanza. I mean, amongst many more. I mean, this was a really good one. I mean, he makes Kujo look... like a puppy dog yeah yeah i love the trainer in this because the dog is is a real dog so uh whoever did excuse me did the training in this done a really good job yeah Cool. It's a good TV movie. Yeah, that's...
William Sanderson is what you're talking about, right? The scene with William Sanderson? Yeah. Yeah, that is probably my favorite scene in the movie. Yeah, such a good movie. I like when he swallows the cat. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God, yes. That was something. It's kind of like the scene from Cat's Eye, you know, when the cat's going in the guy's throat. Tell us from the dark side. Oh, tell us from the dark side. I'm sorry. Yeah, tell us from the dark side.
uh tell some dark side when the guy the cat's going through the guy's throat man it's freaking awesome yes that's another one right well nice you got any other ones love is that number five By itself. All right, so number five by itself is Man's History. Well, I've still got ties to look forward to. There you go. Yep. Stay tuned. I have a three-way tie for number three. Yeah. No, no, no. You have to have actually seen them. All right, so let's go to my number five, and I'm going to a...
Well, let's just do it. We're going to a Stephen King adapted film. And you're like, uh-oh, which one? Because there's a couple this year. That's right. Well, I had to do this one because... Well, who knows? Maybe that other one will pop up on my list as well. But I'm going to do Charlton Heston's son, Frazier C. Heston's Needful Theme. And I absolutely love and adore this film. There's two versions. You got the two hour version. You can also get the.
uncut three hour version which is the mini series version as well you can do with the two hour you don't have to have the three but if you want to watch the full three hour roll with it
They do take a few things out. And it does, in a way, take a little flavor away from it, doing the two-hour version. But still, nonetheless, man, this movie just always got me, man. It's got Max von Sydow, who plays a... a rather odd... we'll just call him a rather odd salesman he has this uh consignment shop that he opens up and he basically gives people you know maybe he's allowing them to get stuff that they want at a price and sometimes the price may be a little heftier
than a nickel in your pocket. It might cost you a little something else without spoiling anything. Buy now, pay later, the poster art says. But this one has Ed Harris in it and got a funky little dance in here with this. Ed, here's the thing. Ed Harris is awesome in this movie. He plays the sheriff. And what I love about Ed Harris's character is that he's the only one that seems to keep his marbles through this movie. Like everybody else loses their shit.
But not Ed Harris. Ed Harris keeps his composure through this whole movie. And he's just watching his town go to pot because everybody's turning on each other. Really fun movie. I enjoy this one a lot. So yeah, it's Needful Things. If you've not seen it, definitely check it out. Most of you have, I believe. But anyway, so number five. Nice. I have seen it.
Set in Castle Rock. Yes. Like most of his movies. Like most of his movies, yeah. This is, you know, Max von Sydow, of course, is a lot of fun. But you're right. Ed Harris, I think, delivers a really strong performance. What I really like about this... is its depiction of small-town America, where you have this, you know, what would have been like in the 50s, the father-knows-best type of idyllic, you know, suburb.
suburban type of place where everybody has you know but everybody has something to hide yeah And this guy comes in gaunt and he's the source of evil that's sort of destroying the town. But the citizens of Castle Rock met him halfway. And he's the one who brought it out of him. They had this in there. And Fraser Heston, it's interesting. The other thing that I had seen Fraser Heston directed...
was, I believe he directed the 1990 made-for-TV movie Treasure Island that starred his father as Long John Silver. It is my favorite. version of treasure island and it was for tnt for turner television it was directed and it has oliver stone and not oliver stone oliver reed in it It has Christopher Lee in it. And it has Christian Bale before he was anything. Like when he was a young, he had made Empire of the Sun, but he hadn't done anything else.
So he directed that one and then he directed Needful Things. And yeah, I think I like this. I like this one as well. It's when you look at the Stephen King films of the 90s, this would probably be in the top five, although. probably include the Shawshank Redemption to get a top five. I don't know if you could look at five horror, but I guess maybe some people can. I might have to throw the Shawshank Redemption in there to get a top five Stephen King in the 90s.
No, this is a good one. I enjoy this one. Yeah, it gives you that whole adage. You didn't put the lawnmower man up there? Yeah, right. No. This gives you that old adage of what would you do? Would you be willing to make a deal? so to speak. So it just gives you that area, man. Well, this is that theme that runs through quite a few of King's miniseries, you know, short form.
movies, and that's the cause of the human condition. You get a moralistic choice. What would you do in their situation? And it's always something to do with an everyman. I mean, love King or dislike King. King has characters that are relatable. You know, nobody's a high-end scientist. They don't do military stories where you have to know about the innards of a tank. He does stories with people that are everyday people.
And so no matter what story you're going to, whether there's aliens involved, whether there's a disappearance involved, whether there's a moral conflict involved, and just as well as it's well written, as long as it's well written. They're almost always worthwhile. That's right. There you go. Well, Needful Things number five. Now we're going to go to our number fours already. So let's head to Dr. Shop. Dave, what is number four?
Okay, my number four is a movie I really do enjoy. It is what I guess would technically be the third or the second remake of a classic film. And the other two are this and the original, the first remake are indeed classics. But this is the third version. It is Body Snatchers, directed by Abel Ferrara.
And it stars Gabrielle Anwar, Meg Tilly. That's Terry Kinney in there. I guess he's playing the father. What it is is... A teenage girl and her father discover alien clones are replacing humans on a remote U.S. military base in alabama and that's where i think this movie has its strength is you know the other ones it's happening in town you know when um or in this one in the case of the 78 version um new york city
Well, big city anyway. And in the original, it's like more of a small town that it's happening in. Here, it's a military big city. You know, when they're trying to organize in the other ones, they have to... They don't have the means. If it happens with the military, they have the means to shift it across the world. And this is a very creepy movie at times. And this has Arlie Ermey in it. He plays a general. Forrest Whitaker shows up in this one as well.
I really do like this version. I think when you talk about the classic from the 50s, the 78 remake, which is also a classic, and made my top five of that year. This one is, I say it's just as good. And Abel Ferrara did a great job with it. So it is body snatchers. Well, obviously 1993, but it is body snatch. I love it. And there's a scene with Meg Tillian here that might be eye-opening for a few.
Just saying. You'd be more specific, Gregor. I don't need to be. I'll just say there's an eye-opening sequence with Meg Tilly in this movie. So just saying. Whether it's real or not, who knows. But it looked real. Was it real, Pearl? I don't know, but I'm just saying. You got to watch and see. Judge for yourself. Anyways, let's move on. Body Snatchers number four.
Bill, let's get to your number four. We'll move on quickly from that little avenue. Nice, easy transition. You like that? Right into it. That's it, because I am nothing if not a guy who dislikes boobs, right? Okay. So 1993, as I said, I went on a bit of an exploration because I was digging deep and far for seeing if I left anything under some rocks or something had fallen off the table. And I literally found this one yesterday.
And it was on Tubi, but I think I found it on YouTube and just found a better version on Tubi. And I wonder if the lovely Miss Pearl Hiller knows it, because its title originally was Batson Fan Dim, Yan Yuck Cha Siu Bao. The Eight Immortals Restaurant. Oh, I know this one. Yeah, I think you were messaging us all about that the other day, Pearl. Oh, yeah, I see. I was going to say.
Well, I mean, you guys are, you know, cinephiles, so you might as well know. It's directed by Danny Lee and Herman Yao. Not as if those are names that we would know, but if you're an Asian film connoisseur, perhaps Don and Ellie might know who they are. Here is what the IMDb synopsis is. But the other thing that I started watching is it has a 6.8 rating.
on imdb under comedy crime horror and thriller i first found it on f'dupmovies.com but it's also on tubi so i figure if it's on tubi you know how bad So this is what they describe it as. Macau cops. Sorry, this is Hong Kong, but I think it's after they had flipped over to China. Macau cops begin to suspect a man running a pork bun restaurant of murder after tracing the origin of a case full of chopped up human remains that washed ashore, which leads them to him.
So this is actually somewhat based on an actual crime that happened in mainland China, or maybe off the island, I'm not sure, in 1978. And there's this employee of a restaurant. He chops up the meat. He's like the butcher guy for the restaurant. They make, you know, steamed buns and traditional Chinese food. And he has an interesting way of getting unique flavors into some of them.
It's a story where the first hour you're developing relationships, you know, there's a lot of pettiness. He doesn't get along with his bosses. the employees don't always warm up to him. He's a loner. He does his own thing. At the beginning of the film, he looks for a job and he's, of no fixed dress and he just the owner asks him do you know how to use a cleaver to cut ribs and he gets the job And you get these relationship stories. And then every 15 minutes, there'll be a brutal murder.
and and it's done in a bit of a dark manner there but there's definitely dark humor to it like it's almost done kind of silly it's low budget there's a lot of you can tell it's 1993 a lot of sexist humor. It's almost like a British sex comedy and some of the actions and interactions among the employees. And then you get a brutal murder. And it's bloody. It is bloody. And it's all over the place. And the last act of this film.
would not be able to be made in North America, even in 1993. And it involves breaking a trope and horror that doesn't get broken in North America. And that's the willful death of children. And it shows it. Now, and it's bloody and graphic, but they do it in a manner... that you're not going to get grossed out. If that makes sense. It's not a Serbian film deal, but it is bloody. And when it happened, I'm going, holy fuck. They would not even touch that in Hollywood.
But in Asia, they're fine with it. And now we're 36. As I said, the first hour, just stick with it. You get a neat murder every 20 minutes, and then they do their thing in the restaurant, and then you kill somebody again. But that last 20 minutes. you're not going to be able to wash your eyes. But at the same time, I was smiling. So take that for what it is. The Eight Immortals Restaurant, The Untold Story, on Tubi. Check it out. I like it. The untold story. Good watch, man, for sure.
Have you seen it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. You knew it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You got to check it out. I highly recommend it as well. Definitely check it out on Tubi. I'm sure you can find it too. I'd like to own this one, but, you know, we'll see.
Do you agree, Greg? Would they be able to shoot that in North America? No. I mean, I would not think so, but I mean, shoot, look at the Serbian films and different things. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but in a mainstream. In a mainstream Hollywood, definitely. It is on the list of one of the banned movies. Is it? Yeah, it's on that list. I can definitely see it for sure. I mean, it's a gore fest, man. But it's awesome, man. So I back you on it, dude. Number four, good job.
so there you go all right bill number four for you Let's head over to Pearl. Pearl, what you got for number four? I got... Snake eyes. I got tie. Okay. Is it snake eyes? You said pie? A tie. Oh, a tie. I thought you said pie. I'd like to have some pie, though. Oh, pie sounds good. I'm hungry. Okay, Greg, you know what you're getting after we're done? That's right.
You know, you can't put that on pause. I'm just kidding. Yeah, there's got to be a bakery around the corner. That's right. That's right. That would be great. Yeah, the podcast is here. We're going to get pie. And then all of a sudden. Oh, that was good pie. Yeah. The good editing part. Throw in a little Jeopardy music maybe. It took me about seven, eight minutes to get there, but yeah, we'll get there. Anyways, we got, I got you.
Barney is a disturbed man intent on abducting a woman. After numerous fell attempts, he manages to kidnap young Diane, who is on vacation with her boyfriend Jeff. As time passes, Jeff remains determined to find out what happened to Diane.
When Barney unexpectedly confronts Jeff, it leads to a tense life or death situation. Meanwhile, Jeff's current girlfriend, Rita, manages to follow him in hopes of keeping him out of harm and this one is called The Vanishing and it has Jeff Bridges, Sandra Bullock, Kiefer Sutherland, Nancy Travis amongst many others in here. I like it. I mean, this is a true story. I mean, it is the third remake of the Slusher French Dutch 1988. But this one...
Always stuck to me even when the first time I saw it, you know, it made me always question the fact If you had an opportunity to know what happened to your significant other, would you do it? I mean, what's worse, not knowing, going through life, wondering?
Or finding out the cruel intent of what did happen and living with that. So... i love i love the last almost the last look of the film yeah when he looks over and sees a bump yeah now here's the thing i did not know this but i've not seen the original
And Jay, I mentioned Jay of the Dead. I said, have you seen this? And he said, yeah. I didn't realize that they had changed the ending from the true life story, right? So they Hollywoodized this one. So he's a little... colder on this one i enjoyed the hell out of this and i kind of liked the version that they gave us but go ahead Well, I did too. I mean, even though the quirkiness of Jeff Bridges, like when he sneezes into the handkerchief and he almost passes his own self out.
Because he had chloroform on the napkin. But it starts with a bang. Oh, yeah. Do you feel like Jeff Bridges... I don't know exactly when Starman came out. I think 86. 86. I think it was 86. Here's the thing. 84. 84. Okay, so Bridges. Oh, wow. It was even earlier. Oh, no. Yeah, never mind. He was doing big trouble in Little China in 86. All right. So in 84.
He did the lead character in that movie, spoiler, but he's not of this earth. And he talked really robotic-like. He had that weird talk about him, right? Yeah. And I swear I thought it was just that movie. And we've seen a couple of movies with him in it lately. And I'm like, no, he kept talking like that, which was odd. Like even in this movie, he had that, that.
I don't, the pacing of what he was in Starman. So I don't know if it ended up becoming a tick to him or if he talks like that in real life, but it feels. Awful little bit. But he got the, you know, as someone who grew up with Dutch relatives, he kind of got that part of the world's accent. Whoever worked with him did a good job. Because he's always like sucking at his teeth and having issues. And no matter how many times he gets kicked in the stomach, he...
He keeps a clear head. Yeah. Yeah. He's laying there just about dead and he goes, go ahead and kill me, but you won't find your, whatever, you know. What a freaking good movie. It ratchets the tension up for a good straight hour. Yeah. Sandra Bullock greatness. This is a damn good movie. Good choice. My only complaint is you didn't see enough Sandra Bullock.
Yeah, true. And I don't mean in a pervy way. I just mean as an actress to the film, she would have been fantastic. Like maybe some flashback scenes or something. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, that was it. Was this an early film for her? This is a couple years before Speed. Be around the time of Speed, wouldn't it? Well, Speed was 95. Oh, was it? Oh, okay. Yeah.
Yeah, maybe a bit. I mean, I don't think she was unknown, but I don't think she broke. Yeah, she had a lot of good movies already on. Yeah. Well, what was that one where she was... Or the girls get all dressed up. The pageant. Miscontinuality. You missed Congeniality. Yeah, I missed Congeniality. Of course you know that one, Pearl. I can't. I watched it once. Jim made me watch it. I said, what is it? It's fun. You've got to watch Drop Dead Gorgeous.
That's a fun entry in that one, that whole thing. I think I like her quirkiness and all about Steve. All right, Pearl, what's your second choice of this movie? oh my oh you know what love potion number nine no i'm just kidding oh i was getting ready to type it down yeah don't do that my second choice Mark's a young boy who loses his mother and must stay with his extended family while his father's away on business.
mark becomes acquainted with his cousin henry however the extent of henry's depravity becomes clearer when mark sees him kill a neighbor's dog and intentionally create a traffic pileup on the highway after the After supposed mishap on the icy pond with Henry's sister Connie Mark tried to reveal Henry's grant crimes before it's too late and this is the good son Macaulay Culkin's family, Quinn and Rory, and of course young Elijah Wood. I mean, a few others in there.
I mean, insane because such a young boy and every moment he knew what he was doing. He was just, he played Deviant so well more than... I honestly would say he played this better than Home Alone. Yeah, because it's a different character for sure. But it fit at him. You could tell he loved it. We now know he was a hellion as a kid. This was truly, I think, his spirit.
Macaulay talking the devil. But if you want suspense and drama and you want to follow all the deviant journey of this kid and meanwhile the other one playing hero and then that last... That last bit that always gets anyone who would see this as a parent. The choice that the mother makes. It's wicked.
yep yep cool the good son i think at that choice at that point it was a choice and and you can't say it unless you're facing that you can't you know but i don't know what other choice she could have made at that point, knowing what she knew. I like this one. I don't know that I really agree about it. I think Macaulay Culkin is wooden in this. I did not believe him one bit. Even when he is being sinister.
He seemed very much just monotone and delivering at the same tone, almost like a script reading at a table. And I just did not really buy him. And I mean, I think Elijah Wood is the better actor and he comes across as the better actor in this. But unfortunately, with Macaulay Culkin being the star, I think Elijah Wood played down to Macaulay Culkin as opposed to Macaulay Culkin playing up to Elijah Wood.
And I think you can get away with that kind of stuff in Home Alone and those kind of fun movies. I just did not buy him one bit as the sinister kid. I didn't find him really sinister in this. It's a good movie, though. And it's beautifully shot in some great locations. I loved that town where most of it was set in because this is this is like almost like in a way it was winter horror.
But, you know, a little bit of snow, not a lot of snow, but it's winter horror. And the scene with the dog and at the overpass, and there's some strong sequences in this. Um, I just, I just, for some reason, and I don't, and I, I see why Macaulay Culkin wanted to do this to sort of break away from that home alone, you know, persona. I just don't think either he didn't give it his all or he gave it his all and he just didn't have it at that time.
So but it is a good movie. And I just I just watched it again to rewatch it again today, as a matter of fact. And that was the only thing that was just sort of. I just wasn't quite there with was was Macaulay Culkin because he just seemed to have the same monotone delivery when he was sinister, when he was being threatening, when he was being sweet. It just always seemed the same to me.
Yeah, I think I actually, and I see where you're going with it. To me, I felt like it was almost like his twistedness. And that's the way I kind of read off of it was that he was just so twisted that he just, his tone never changed. Like it was what he was saying. Yeah. Yeah. But then you don't buy him a sweet. Why would the parents believe him? Because they're parents. Why would the doctor believe him? I just didn't. I don't think it was a good performance.
And he is the central one in it. And I think it's sort of brought. I thought Elijah Wood was playing down to him because Elijah and he still is better, I think, in this movie than Macaulay Culkin's. I think Elijah Wood is even at this age. was a really strong actor. I mean, you watch that awful movie North, he's still delivering a decent performance in that crap. Well, I mean, we know Elijah's gone on to be the better actor for sure, one million percent. Yeah, well, yeah, definitely.
But I think even then he was, but Macaulay Culkin was the bigger star. Oh, yeah, because of Home Alone, for sure. You try to break away from that one character, but that's the one character that made you the money, buddy. Right, right. But as far as the movie goes, I think it's a good movie. And like I said, it's beautifully shot. It's really it's got a great setting and it does have an interesting story, you know.
So, yeah, I mean, I could definitely see, you know, I do like the movie. That's just the one thing I just sort of irks me. Cool. You got anything else, Pearl? No. All right, so number four for Pearl was The Vanishing in the Good Sun. All right, my number four has already been mentioned. Crossover. Let's go ahead and get to it. It is John Carpenter's Body Bags, the anthology. I love this freaking movie. It's so fun. And it's not that it's... It's scary in any way. It's just a fun anthology.
Every segment is fun. I do agree with you, Dave, in the sense that the gas station was definitely my favorite segment. Clip for sure. I did like the eye. I got my eye on you, baby. When John Carver sings that. But I did like Mark Hamill seeing something other than Luke Skywalker. I love that. Because I'm a big Stacey Keach fan, so seeing Stacey Keach with the hair, that was awesome. He's always fun. Oh, he delivers. He always delivers.
But this one's just so fun. And like I said, and we've said, so I won't keep reiterating, but I wish this would have continued. I would have loved to have seen what they could have done with it. In other words, we just got a movie instead. And I'm good with it. I got the Screen Factory Blu-ray from way back in the day. And I got to look back on that, Dave, and see. I do not recall if it had the commentaries or not on there.
uh but i would love to go i would i would love it if it did i'd love to hear john carpenter explain what happened to the series because he you know why it why it wasn't uh carried forward i remember i know we did research on this way back in the day but my brain i'm old and i could never tell you i remember the stories of it and i think money was the issue but i can't 100 say I'm sure. I mean, regardless of what they said.
It all would come down to money, because if they thought it was going to make a ton of money, that would trump everything else. It would just everything else would just be OK. Well. Yeah, this, this, and this. But it's going to make a lot of money, so we're going to go forward with it. So I'm sure money had a lot to do with it, if not everything. Oh, yeah, probably. But, man, if you've never seen it, this is such a fun watch. You can watch it.
um with pretty much any age group so there are a few moments in this it might get a little tense and The first one might be the most. That one would definitely, I mean, it's more of the slasher side, so it definitely has your gore. uh things that we love as horror fans but it's definitely worth uh worth watching if you've not seen it and i don't know and i the first time i saw it i loved the mystery because i did not know where it was going right right
Uh, so I don't know exactly, uh, if it's still available. I needed to probably research that and wish I would have, but it didn't. But, uh, if you can get it, still get it, man. It's worth it. The Blu-ray looks beautiful. I haven't never seen anything. Tubes got it if you can't find it. There you go. So see there, Bill. Coming in strong. All right, so Body Bags is my number four. So we're already into number three. Let's get into it. Dr. Shock, we're in the middle. What is your number three?
All right. Well, my number three, and I have a feeling this could be higher on other people's list. It is the go-to movie when you're thinking of alien abductions. It is Fire in the Sky. Starring D.B. Sweeney, Robert Patrick. It's based on a supposed true story. It's a dramatized account of what happened to Travis Walton. He's played by D.B. Sweeney, a laborer from the town of Snowflake, Arizona, who vanished without a trace one November evening in 1975.
He was working as part of a six-man logging crew, and him and his co-workers, including his best friend Mike, played by Robert Patrick, And a group of others had just finished working in the White Mountains and on their way home spotted a bright red light in a clearing just ahead of them. And they thought it might be a fire. But what they found was a UFO hovering just above the ground. And Mike and the others were trying to figure out what it was. Travis got out of the truck to investigate.
and was hit with a beam of light and... threw him backwards. They thought he was dead, so they took off. Everyone else thought he was dead. They took off, but they returned a short while later. And there was no trace of him, nor any evidence of a UFO having been there. So they go back to town now. And of course, they report it. Nobody believes them. But then Travis reappeared.
And this is based on a book, The Walton Experience, by Travis Walton himself. And it works on a number of levels. It's an effective mystery. Because we start wondering, because even though we're seeing the flashback, it's being told. He's the one, you know, who's telling the story. So what we see, and James Garner plays the Lieutenant Frank Waters who's investigating this. Is this really what happened or is this just Mike?
So we are not really sure if we're believing it. And it gives a really interesting glimpse into small town life again, like we were talking about with Needful Things. and how circumstances can have people who have known each other for years turn against one another. I mean, you know, everyone says, the whole town's like, you killed Travis, you did something to Travis, Travis's brother.
goes so far as to threaten Mike if he doesn't come clean. He says, I'll kill you if you don't, you know, come clean. What happened to my brother? But the best scenes are in the final act. When Travis reappears, and by flashbacks, we discovered what happened to him during his absence. And I'm telling you. It is horrifying. I mean, when you think of like alien abductions. You know, it's really not Kang and Kodos from The Simpsons. This was some pretty nasty stuff going on.
uh, in this. And I think that's the strongest element. I mean, the mystery works really well, but the strongest element comes right at the end of this. Was it true? Who the hell knows, but it did make for one great movie. And that is.
fire in the sky love love this movie i had never heard of this till i met pearl and i watched it where pearl what was that like three years ago something like that dude scared the bejeebas out of me dude this movie is terrifying if you believe in some of this stuff so i mean clearly if you don't believe in any of this you're going to be like Now, what's really interesting is a psychiatrist at Harvard, Dr. John Mack,
Released a report in 92, one year before this movie came out. And he researched 60 abduction cases. And none of those who had been captives showed any signs of mental illness. None of them. And what's more, those who were abducted came from all walks of life. You had secretaries, students, housewives. you know professionals. And they were convinced without a doubt in their mind that their experience was real. So it's not as if.
It's like mass hysteria. It's not as if it's it's it's like in all out in rural areas. Well, I guess most of them are probably in rural areas because, you know, abducted somebody in a big city and you're going to have about 300 witnesses regardless of the time of day. That was that that report came out and he's like, no, these people are not mentally ill and they are not making it up. They absolutely believe this happened to them.
And I'll tell you what, there are times when I'm driving on these back roads around here in the middle of the night. early morning when I'm heading to work that, and I don't think of this movie. There are two movies that I think of this and, um, uh, death proof. Yeah.
If a car ever passes me on the road, I'm pulling over. That son of a bitch is going to be coming the other way. You've got some of those mountain roads up there, so you've got some roads that would freak you out anyway. Yes, very true. There are no...
lights. There are no road lights on any of these back roads up here. You are driving. A friend of mine, first time he came from high school, first time he came over to my house, He walks to the front door and goes, God damn, your roads are freaking creepy. I love it. Hey, I remember Pearl, and this is a side note, and then we'll get back to the podcast, but I'm going to go down this avenue for one second because we're talking about creepy roads and abductions.
Pearl, you remember when we went to West Virginia with the reunion? Or the funeral, whatever it was. I think it was the funeral. When we got lost? Yes. Remember, we went. We decided. I was like, man, I wanted to go to Elkins, West Virginia, which is where the Kmart used to be that I used to buy my Star Wars figures and stuff. Her mom used to buy them for me, right? So I decided, and this is.
getting toward, you know, dusk. And I told Pearl, we're going to do it. I did not do a GPS or nothing. Mom said, oh, you just go left and you stay straight. Dude. We were going down roads, and it ended up being like 10 o'clock at night. And I'm telling you that even bright lights would not light this road up enough. And you'd go straight up a mountain. And I'm talking like there was no yellow line. So it was like one road.
And you would go up these mountain woods on both sides. You're on cliffs on the other side. And you literally go up top of the road and you couldn't see down because it was so steep. And then you come down and you're like, oh, dude, I was petrified. Fire in the sky didn't come to my mind, but wrong turn definitely did. Yeah, exactly. Or even worse, deliberate.
yes and deliverance bro so i know dave you got some of them roads too so yeah terrifying fire in the sky do not watch i do too because when i used to drive back then um with my family because they lived in arizona Arizona very very long roads and they always say don't look up at the sky at night because they're not stars and they used to always tell us that I mean the only thing you would see like after a couple hours on the road you would see the
um what is it it's a prison out there in the middle of nowhere and other than that it's like it would be very rare when you finally find the gas station or finally find something but they would tell you don't look up and you know a lot of times of course you know i would look up and you would see little things but
Supposedly the Area 51 is government and all that over there. So who knows? I was getting ready to ask you how close were you to Area 51 in Vegas? Like, I didn't say it. It was a couple hours, like about three, four. I was just saying. Fire in the sky, Dave. Good choice, brother. All I'm going to do is say ditto. Ditto. Number three, Bill, let me hear it. Numero trois, fire in the sky. Nice. And I hadn't seen it since we reviewed it last. It was a few years back. Yeah.
refute this and you know like the first couple i'd you know it was more of a chess match as to what to put on i knew this was going on the list i just didn't uh know where i really really like james garner in this role I thought James Garner, you know, came off, you could tell his Western sensibilities in this. He's the old time.
FBI agent, but he's not exactly hip with the new technology. He just goes old school and he has a little bit of Columbo in him. He just kind of lets you know he's not going away. And I like his interactions with D.B. Sweeney. Because at a certain point, D.B. Sweeney's like, look, we've given you everything you want. Either charge us or let me walk into this police station. And they just walk in. And Henry Thomas kind of plays this more meek.
But yeah, that last scene, I mean, some might think if you're a pessimist to this film, you'll say it looks kind of schlocky and overdone. But if you enjoy this kind of film, you can honestly say it's one of the best abduction scenes you're going to see. Oh, yeah. And, I mean, yes, it is a little bit schlocky, but just imagine yourself in that. And if you haven't seen it...
I don't want to give away too much, but it's restricting. Let's just say that. And, you know, certain body parts start to sew up in things. Yeah, this one, but aside from these practical special effects, which are always a plus, it's just a decent movie. I mean, take it for what it is, whether it's a Hollywood script or whether it's based on reality or it's just somebody seeking attention or whatever.
But it is worth watching at least once. If you're not a hardcore horror fan, but you like sci-fi kind of films, this is definitely for you. If you're a Close Encounters of the Third Kind or an E.T., this is definitely the kind of film for you. I agree. Love it. Fire in the sky. All right, Pearl, you got fire on the sky on number three? No. Uh-oh. What you got for number three? How many ties? A tie. A tie. My last tie. Okay, let me hear.
Okay, writer Nick Elliott moves to the new city for a magazine job and rents a room on the house of a cliff. the... and live Forrester, whose 14 years old daughter, Adrienne, instantly makes her attraction to Nick very clear. When Nick romances a photographer, Amy Maddock, at work, He has trouble fending off Adrian's advances. As her obsession with Nick grows, Adrian becomes very angry and becomes at being rejected and starts attacking his property and his friends. And this is...
The Crush. With Alicia Silverstone, Carrie Elves, Kirkwood Smith, Jennifer Rubin. Psycho at 15. Psycho. Yes. Knows very well about Wasp. Knows very well how to have her parents wrapped around her finger. Yeah, very obsessive indeed. You know, this movie definitely made Elisa Silverstone a sex symbol.
This movie did it for sure. I was going to say, I haven't seen this film, so I still need to see it. This was on my list, and I didn't get to it, damn it, but now I wish I did. The only thing that bothers me about this is this 14-year-old girl. and then imdb says erotic thriller is that wrong No, this would have been one of the erotic 90s movies. I mean, there's a whole slew of these. A 14-year-old girl? Well, a 14-year-old girl who doesn't care to, like... be very revealing to her crush.
Wow. There's a certain part that you would... that you do kind of feel like. I mean, clearly Alicia Silver was not 14 when she made it. No, no, you know, but still, I mean, to play a 14 year old girl is in a sexual manner. It would be canceled these days. There's no way. It's a damn good movie. I mean, this is in that single white female hand that rocks the cradle. That theory. The tampons.
You know, those kind of movies, yeah. Yeah, just maybe a tad little bit better because they had a better budget and better cast. Yeah, this one's definitely better told. This one's definitely tenseful and... edge of the seat type. I see Kurtwood Smith is in it. I love him as an actor. 3 part 2. 3B. Is there another tie? Yeah. This is my last tie, I swear. Is this a three-way tie? Oh, jeez. I might as well make it top 8. That's right. Let's do it.
Okay, my top eight. No, I'm just kidding. It has four ties. And my top eight has four ties. One at number five, one at number three. I give out a dozen. I love it. All right. I had to put this one in. I had to. Because, yeah. This one, a teen uses an army chemical to revive his dead girlfriend after a motorcycle accident with Melinda Clark. Kent McCord, J. Trevor Edmund, and this is Return of the Living Dead 3. Nice. Yeah, I mean...
I don't know where they were going with this. They were trying to make it more of a romantic, goth, kind of macabre, like, storyline. But... It was enough to keep me invested because you got the hoodlums who make you laugh at the same time too. You know, you wanted to see what they were going to do and their brutal scenes are... are epic enough her you know doing what she had to do in order to not eat her boyfriend yeah That was a plus for me.
She was kind of like the Lene Quigley who couldn't keep her top off. She was topless through a lot of this movie after the first sequel. She had her top off quite a bit in this movie. Interesting. was really, I thought the most interesting about it was, is that, um, Brian Usna, who produced and directed this, said, and I was listening to the commentary of it, he said...
That I can't remember the oh, God, I did remember the studio. I can't remember what it is now, but they had gotten the rights to do another entry for this. But they did not have to have the same actors, because if you think about it, the first two had the same. Well, James Caron and the other guy, they were like from both. They played different characters in the second one, but they played similar characters to who they played in the first one, at least the way they were reacting to all of this.
And they did not have to stick with comedy. And they did not stick with comedy. They wanted to tell a Romeo and Juliet in the zombie world. I like it. It's fun. I don't know if I've ever seen it, actually. It's fun. I may have. I may have. It's one of those ones, you know, I might have seen it in 1997 or something. You would know it if you'd seen it.
There was a point in my life where drinking and seeing boobs was not that out of the question, right? You got anything else on that one, Pearl? No, I'm good. All righty. Well, let's go to my number three, which is another crossover tonight. Good Lord. Didn't think we was going to have this many, but we do. This was the first time viewing for me, man. And wow. Abel Ferrara, I finally got to see Body Snatchers, and I freaking had to put this up high on my list because it is freaking great.
uh and it's nothing different about the invasion of the body snatchers it's kind of the same retelling of it but damn if it wasn't entertaining i thought the acting was strong i love the story uh there's dare say we say a kid death in this one too bill that was like whoa a little it's a little hokey with what happens with this child because of the effect
now because this is freaking 1993 but still it was effective uh i just i really enjoyed this damn movie i was like finally got to see it i had not seen this movie ever and uh My buddy Dave Parker, everybody knows Dave Parker. What's up, Dave Parker? Man, Dave hooked me up with this movie, man, and I was like, damn right, dude. God bless. Thank you. Love it. It's hard to find out there.
There used to be a Blu-ray release of it. I don't know. You might be able to find it on eBay. I am fortunate to have gotten that closer to when it was released. yeah it was like a warner classic release or something so yeah it was one of the warner archives i think so no no features i'm sure i'm sure it's just probably no i don't i don't believe so
Somebody needs to really release this. Come on, Severn, Cauldron, somebody. Somebody get a hold of this vinegar. I don't care who gets it, but somebody needs to get this vinegar. would be great synapse would be okay i'm okay with that one uh somebody do this and do it proper man and uh I'd love to see a good release of this, but Body Snatchers, man, so fun.
And I just really enjoyed the visual effects of this. We all know, or most of us that know anything about the Body Snatcher lore, you know... what happens in it you know the body's switching and there's the scene it's just a modern interpretation exactly and it's like a you know the the scene in the bathtub with the things coming around that was getting in i was like dude it was freaking awesome i loved it man i was so into this freaking movie perhaps this is a conversation for jb
Yeah, and maybe we'll talk about that this couple days from now. There you go. It'd be great if they can get a screen factory or something. You know who would do this one? Maybe a Paramount, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, so let's throw that out there. I will say, I don't know who owns the rights to it. And you got to keep bugging them about elves. Oh, yeah, elves. Yes. I'm sure. I'm sure we can make that happen. Well, it looks like Warner Brothers is true. I don't know if Warner still.
But anyways, Body Snatchers for me. If you've not seen it, definitely check this movie out. Don't sleep on it. Don't think just because Invasion of the Body Snatchers 56 and 78. Or 78, 76, 78. 78. Don't sleep on this one, man. I'm telling you, give it a shot. You will thoroughly enjoy it. Uh, so we're down to our top two listeners, man. We're getting excited. Then we're going to go to you, the listeners. So Dave, take it away from number two.
Well, my number two is a crossover as well. And it is one of Pearl's number three. It is Return of the Living Dead 3. Nice. I had just watched this one. For the first time, actually, a few days ago. And boy, I was just. I had heard that it was not comedy. That's the only thing I knew going into it, that they took a different approach to the story.
First off, I loved seeing Kent McCord in there. I always go back to Adam 12 when I see Kent McCord. So it was great to see him. And he's playing. He's really giving it his all as the father. of of the one kid um you know who um and he's also in a military he's in the military and he's the one Who's who's doing the trioxin experiments, by the way, and I found out in the in the what was it in the commentary that I was talking about by Brian Usna.
The guy they resurrect at the beginning of the movie. But when they have him in the military, but they have him in that in the military compound and they're in there and the doctors are in there and they're giving him the trioxim. Yeah. Yeah. That guy was a homeless man. They were looking for somebody thin and emaciated. They brought in a homeless man, put him up in a hotel and had to watch him to make sure that they could get him there to do this.
So I thought that was kind of that shows you a lot of low budget filmmaking. It sounds like the beyond. Yeah, right. The ending of the beyond. Right. But I'd love seeing Kent McCord in this. Um, and Sarah Douglas, you know, from, um, from, uh, the Superman, uh, Superman, well, one and two, but mostly Superman two who played, uh, who was it? Um, I can't remember the characters. He was general Zod. She was there with General Zahn and Nan. What the hell? Ursa. Ursa.
It was great seeing her in this one, too, as as as she had another type of experiment with the with the zombies. with the trioxin and making zombies. And it's all for weaponizing. That's what they're looking to do. The military is looking to use this to weaponize it. And hers at the end is like truly horrific. That's another thing about this movie. The effects for being low budget are quite good. I mean, really good. And, you know, they're all practical.
And I loved it. And I loved the different things that happened to the lovers, you know, to to to I don't remember the characters names now, but the lead actress. Yeah. Julian, Kurt. Yes. And I thought that she was tremendous. I really did. I thought she gave a great performance. you know, because she's as, as the sort of, um, uh, I guess, sort of rebellious teen. Then she dies. And even the way she would just convulse at times.
It was very convincing. And the way she played it, like that she she was hungry and didn't know what for. You know, I can imagine if you just be, you know, you're slowly becoming a zombie. You're hungry. You don't know what to eat. And they go into that convenience store and she's just chowing down on Twinkies. And, you know, no, no, no. Like she couldn't figure out what she was hungry for.
That's a really good scene. And there's a lot of really good scenes in this. Now, towards the end, you run into this, which you run into a lot of zombie movies, even some of the Romero zombie movies. is that the amount of time it takes for someone to turn... is totally dependent on what is needed for that scene. One guy, it seems like it takes him hours, and then a couple others, they turn right away.
Leave that aside because that's not just this zombie movie. That's every zombie movie that happens. And other than that, this is one, if you have not seen this, even if you've seen the first two, and I like the first two. I really like the first two. I like this one. I like this one. I'll say just as much because I've only seen it once. I'm not going to say I like it better, but I like it just as much. I really, really was blown away by this one.
Nice return to living dead three, getting some love up in here at the LOTC world. I love it. Cool. Bill, you got anything to add on that? Well, you hadn't seen it yet. Well, I may have seen it, but if I have, it's been 30 years. Okay. Fair enough. All right, well, it's time to get to Bill's number two. Dave, great choice, of course. Number two, Bill. Number two, numero two.
Now, I'll go with one that Pearl had mentioned earlier, and I re-watched it, and it still hit. It still slaps, as the kids say these days. And that's The Vanishing. I really love the tension that it has the score is excellent in this film And, you know, it rides you through the emotions. I think Jeff Bridges, you know, you get glimpses of the dude
But you also get visions of, or I guess you get examples of how good an actor he really is. Because you believe he's this, you know, German. I don't know if they explicitly say German, but I get the impression that it's either German or Dutch. And he's just so calm. He's like that calm, quiet killer.
don't ever think you know what's going on behind the curtains of someone's life because you just might find out and that's what this film is like at the beginning when he's trying to get directions from a girl and trying to get her into his car and she you know says no no it's okay no way buddy But he's determined and he's got a plan and he does it. And now they do draw it out a little bit, but.
As I said, I haven't seen the German. Is it German or Dutch? I don't know which one. It's Dutch. It's from the Netherlands, so it's Dutch, yeah. It's Dutch, yeah. Because I think it's the Verlus. I think something like that is what it's called. Basically, I think it means missing. Yeah. Here it was released as The Vanishing. As The Vanishing here. Yes, yeah. But, yeah.
This is one of the better ones. And what I like about this one, too, is they don't spend a lot of time with the police end of it. They don't spend a lot of time on the serial police end of it. It's more the emotions of the time. And there's a couple situations where there's role reversals in this film. And just kind of see how the roles reverse at certain points. Yeah, this one's more on the thriller side than the horror, but the horror comes in the situation.
And what would you do if you were Kiefer Sutherland's character? What would you do if you were Sandra Bullock's character? What would you do if you were the other, I forget, the female lead in it? She did a good job too. And, you know, there's things about romance mixed up in this. And yeah, I just like the way it's laid out and it really makes me want to see the original even more.
And I think it's very interesting how they have Kiefer Sutherland is not playing the heavy. It didn't happen very often around this time. Kiefer Sutherland was basically the heavy. In a lot of movies back then, it's kind of interesting to see him playing. He shows his Canadianisms because he's always got a nice thick sweater on. But Jeff Bridges is one of those actors who I think.
Um, you go back to his early, early roles, um, in, in the seventies where, where he was in, um, like, well, um, the last picture show, I think is what sort of put him on. And then he was in, uh. You know, a lot of a lot like Bad Company and a lot of these early movies. He was a strong actor when he was younger and he just got he just kept going with it. And he was just.
You know, all the way up to today. I mean, you watch Hell or High Water. He's probably my favorite part of Hell or High Water, the character he's playing in that movie. And I thought he did a good job in the remake of True Grit. Oh, he was excellent. He was a great Rooster Cogburn. Yeah, he was a great Rooster Cogburn. Yeah, he was awesome.
Haley Steinfeld, I think, stole the movie. But this her scenes with Jeff Bridges are gold in that film. Yeah, he was great in that. And of course, the dude abide. If they were smart, they would have sold that... uh what he called uh what he was wearing around the uh the thing he was wearing around uh the rope the robe yeah he should have set out a bunch of robes well the problem the thing was that was his he every
Stitch of clothing he wore in that movie was his. He brought them to set because he basically said he was playing himself in that movie. So he provided his entire outfit.
His entire wardrobe. His wife must have been thrilled. Yeah. You know what? I really think that because Kiefer Sutherland, I think he was in... inspired to play the role for like three years later the eye for an eye right because he becomes a stalker and you know women and that's all that with Sally Fields and all that was a good movie you showed me that one yeah Kiefer Sutherland is another one you know what I saw I saw a fan theory the other day That his ace in Stand By Me.
um, was looking to get, they, they, somebody had done a fan theory that he was looking, he kept that idea of getting revenge on those young kids for a while and it didn't work out for him. So he got angry and he, he, he left town and he went out West. And then he became the vampire in The Lost Boys. He just never aged. He became that vampire in The Lost Boys. That was ace.
from Stand By Me, went out west and became the vampire in that film. And I would love it if that was true. That would be amazing if that was true. It makes sense, though. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Well, number two, the vanishing for Bill. Let's go to Pearl. Love, what is your number two? My number two, I'm not gonna say much about it because it has been mentioned not once but twice.
because I do got my eye on it. That's right. And this is part of your six-way tie for a second. And how did you know I was just going to mention all the other titles? No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I mean, of course, my anthology obsession here that, you know, it can't go wrong with little sci-fi wormies in the hair. That's right. And like, I mean...
Who would work at a gas station in the middle of the night? I know I wouldn't. But how clever it was that she thought that she was... Especially as a single female, young, attractive single female. Exactly. You know, like, that'd be scary. I mean, someone in the bathroom, someone in the... That's right. Right. Or what is it they call it? The meeting place? I forgot. Real quick, I worked with a guy when I was at McDonald's back in the 80s.
who had taken, he went to McDonald's from having a job as an overnight guy at a gas station back when they were open 24 hours. And you had to always go up there to pay. There was no pay at the pump back then. Well, he fell asleep, and he said when he woke up, seven people had stolen gas. Oh, God. So you didn't have that job for very long. No. You would have it as long as one piss break. Right. That would be it. Wow. All right, Pearl. There's a good scene in a garage.
Yeah, and there is. You will get to see the airlift. car lift used very well there that's that's a good thing and of course the i the i one i mean what creeped me out i think out of the most out of the whole thing was when like The guy who comes in and goes, you okay, buddy? And he turns around and the big old glass in his eye. Right. I'm fine. I'm fine. Blood. Yeah. I'm perfectly fine. Cool. All right. Well, body bags for pearl number two.
Let's get to my number two, and I'm going Italiano. I'm going with Vortissi Mortale. That's right. I'm going with Rosario Diodato's The Washing Machine. Oh, boy, do I love this fucking movie. So the washing machine is basically three, we will call them very promiscuous sisters that are up to no good, maybe. Or maybe they are. Who knows? Uh, but we have a murder at the beginning where somebody ends up in a washing machine and inspectors called in when he shows up.
There's no body there. There's no blood there. is the sisters just trying to be a ruse here or what are they up to? And then we have a great cat and mouse and twistedness in this movie. You don't know who the killer... slash maybe killers or maybe i don't know but it is a really damn good flick um I really enjoyed this movie, man. I'm telling you, if you have not... seen this one man i highly highly highly recommend checking this one out man it's so
So good. It's called The Washing Machine from Rosario Diodato. It does have a ton of nudity in it, so be ready for that. If that offends you, you will not watch it. Then I will not be watching. Yeah, you will not need to watch this one, Bill. It's way too much. When you said Italian director, I was like... That's not what I was thinking of. I'm with you. I was thinking a very different movie for Greg's number two. I know exactly where you think I'm going.
I that's exactly what I was saying. I have not seen the washing machine and I went out and I looked it up and you know what? I could get the DVD and import DVD of it for the low price of $249. Boy, you should get all that. And that includes a $5 delivery. Are you shitting me?
I'm going to give you $249 and your ass can't cover a delivery. Right. I think what you should do, Dave, is get two of them. Just go ahead and buy two of them. Yeah, in case the first one doesn't work. Yeah, you never know. And Dave, they might actually show you the trailer. Well, I'm going to tell you that the washing machine scene is worth your gold and it is a very erotic movie, but man, it's just so well done. And once the...
reveals at the end of the movie. Man, it's a great payoff, man. I really enjoyed it. Diodato, he had some... He had quite the career, didn't he? Oh, yeah. Well, you got cannibal movies. You got shallow movies. I remember watching an interview with him where he said they made me put in those animal deaths. in Cannibal Holocaust. Yeah, but dude,
you made jungle Holocaust before it and you had just as many animal tests in that movie. That's true. So check it out. The washing machine, my number two. So let's get to our, I was going to say, apparently Ruggiero Diodato played an uncredited role as a neighbor. There you go. It may have. I don't know. It's definitely worth the viewing.
This one right here, too, needs to get a really, really good release. I know Shameless had this one out back in the day, I believe it was. It needs a proper release. When you watched it, was it dubbed or was it subbed? But it's worth it, man. Check it out. All right, so let's get to where we're all for here, and it is our number ones. This is what everybody's been waiting for, the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or however you want to do it.
Yeah, that too. The fireworks are popping off. Let's get to it. Our number ones. Let's go to Dr. Schott. I literally have no idea what the hell you were doing right there. I figured it out at the end you were trying to do a drum roll. Yeah, you don't remember that in the movie.
In Christmas Vacation. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't know. It sounded like, okay, that's someone drowning, and that's someone firing a gun. How close are you to Pearl? It sounds like motorboating. That's what that sounds like. That is probably closer to it. See, it's finger distance away. I'm just saying. So there you go. Number one, Dave. What you got, buddy? All right. My number one, and I almost switched this.
with my number one and number two. I almost switched it, but I only saw Return of the Living Dead 3 once, so I couldn't do it. I've seen this one a few times, and it is for me the one movie that outdoes the original. It is a sequel that outdoes the original. And it is from our friends at, I guess it would be Full Moon, Bloodstone Subspecies 2. Ew, the ugly old guy. What's that? Ew, the ugly old guy. Yes, Andrew's home. That's Ragu. Yes, Andrew's home. This one, it does pick up.
You know, from where the other one left off, this is you have Radu and, you know, his brother Stefan. But this picks anyway, there are these other girls you have. After driving a stake through Stefan's heart, the now invigorated Radu turns his attention to Michelle. This time played by Denise Duff. It was played by someone else in the first movie who, after being bitten by Stefan in the previous movie, becomes a vampire herself.
Only the sunrise prevents Radu from finishing Michelle off, and later that day when the sun sets again, a frightened Michelle takes the bloodstoke. which is an ancient stone that can feed a vampire for all eternity from Stefan's coffin and flees the castle. So that's really where the story sort of picks up. Also appearing in this, what happens is Michelle contacts her older sister, Becky, played by Melanie Shatner, William Shatner's daughter.
And this one is just sort of a continuation of what happened in the first one. In this one, though, Radu pays a visit to his sorceress mother, played by Pamela Gordon. He hasn't seen her in hundreds of years and tells her all about the bloodstone. That's really where it's going. They're trying to get, I guess, this this bloodstone back. Michelle or her friends in the first movie, that was one of the aspects I didn't like about the first subspecies.
But I think Denise Duff's take on the character is better. And I really liked Melanie Shatner in this movie as well. Then you have. Radu, played by Anders Hove. I'm telling you, just one of the great vampire, screen vampires, I would say, is Radu. And he's even better in this one, I think. He was in the first, and he was great in the first. He was definitely, you know.
strong and he has that gravelly voice and he's just as evil as can be um we we feel bad for michelle throughout the movie because you know she can't escape radu um You know, and then... She, you know, she seems destined to become his girlfriend. I mean, that's really what it's about, is he's trying to make her his eternal bride. Anyway, I think this one improves on the first movie, and I am a fan of the first subspecies. I really am. I really like that one.
as the introduction to Radu. But in this one, he shines even more. i that is my number one uh bloodstone uh subspecies two great choice i've not seen that one in a few years i need to go back and re-watch it i was going to watch it for this one just literally honestly just Just didn't pull the trigger on it. Good fan of it for sure. I'm going to definitely check it out again. I haven't seen this one since we reviewed the series, didn't we?
I think we touched on it. Yeah, I think we did go over it. That's been a couple of years. So, yeah, I didn't get to it. I remember enjoying it, but I remember I need to review it before I can be critical or not critical. Cool. All right, so here we go. Let's go to Bill for your number one. Pitter-patter, let's get at her. Carnosaur! Yeah! This is one that's been mentioned already, but it's one that I saw in the theater.
I read the book, 800 some odd pages when I was in grade 13. Yeah, in Ontario there was a grade 13 then. And that's a needful thing. And I just find it really calming. It's that, as I mentioned before, it's the human character. It's the moralistic decisions. I thought Ed Harris is bang on in this. I love an older Max Fonsito. I mean, it goes back to Strange Brew, of course. But watching him, he's got a cadence.
He's very methodical in how sparingly he uses his words. And he's got that Michael J. Fox delay when he speaks to be effective. And I thought J.T. Waltz. It's great seeing him go from, yeah, what do you want? What do you need? Donuts. Yeah, honey donuts. Great. Or nose job, plastic surgery. Just get the hell out of here. It's, I mean, it's. The ending, my concern is the ending in the book and in the ending in the movie, you know, it's a little fantastic.
I mean, obviously it's a fantasy film, but to go kind of being a realistic film up until the end and it just all of a sudden literally hell brings. But I like the characters. I like the writing. You get to see a good chick fight with knives. Oh, I love that scene. Yeah, I really, as I said, it goes back to 1993, watching it in the theater and reading the book. But I really, really like this film. So if anybody hasn't seen Needful Things, it gets the bill stamp of approval.
I love it. You know I approve of this one. Yeah, that's a good one. Pearl? 17-way tie for number one. Number one. What was it again? French fries? No, not French fries. Sausage. Hot dog? Sausage and hot dogs and whatever. Yes. Mine is, of course, the same thing. Needful things. Because I love when the devil's in town. Yes. How can you not? And my two... Amanda Plumbing and that other whatever her name was Valerie or Wilma Oh, Valerie Bromfield. Yeah.
Them two were fun. Wow. I love seeing the anger and the fights between them. Turkey shit and all that cool stuff. Turkey shit. And how many times did that kid have to practice throwing the baseball? Right? But I bet you he still had fun. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, that was... That's just a fun movie. I love it. I love the deviancy of it. You can't help but think of Storm of the Century. Yeah.
When you see this movie. Yeah. This one, for me, has a chance of making the top ten. Yeah. In the movie, do you remember the boy wanted a certain baseball card? In the movie, what was the baseball card? 1956 that that's the big one that's that's the rare one the one that's worth the most money i think you know in the book
He mentions Sandy Koufax. It's Sandy Koufax that he's talking about. Oh, did he? Boy, you're going back. Now, Greg, who was it he actually mentioned that they'd actually looked up and still cost $60? Moose Scowron. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. Nice. My dad can name you the 63 Yankees on the court of his hand. I actually have, and it's in really good condition. I had, I don't know where I had gotten it. I think I had traded for it, a 1961 Roger Marist car.
Oh, wow. The year he hit 61 homers. Oh, 61 and 61. Yep. I have that. I have that card. I have cards that I collected. Like I still have my Ricky Henderson rookie card. I still have. Yeah. I used to have a Wayne Gretzky rookie card. I still have one, too. I was eight, and we used to flick it against the wall. That's the problem. We'd flip them. I was one of the ones who put them in the spokes of my bike to make it sound like a motorcycle.
They were so much better than poker cards. The problem was it was a 1983 Kirk Gibson or something. When I played baseball... When I played Little League, I would take whatever position I was playing that day. If I was playing catcher, I'd put a Johnny Bench card in my pocket, thinking it would bring me luck if I was playing first base.
I'd put back then, you know, Pete Rose was a first baseman or or third base, which whatever position I was playing, I'd put that card in my pocket. By the time I got home, it's like bent to shit. You know, it's a mess. but I thought it would give me good luck. Never did. Nope. oh well all right well needful things for pearl and bill is number one uh So it's time for my number one. And here we go. We are going to a foreign film. Yes. But what region are we going to, guys?
I was thinking Italy, but I was thinking, does it involve a certain accident? Could Greg Amortis be going Italiano for number one? No, Greg Amortis. Greg Amortis is going to another read. He's going Hong Kong because I'm going with Bill's number five. And that is the untold story. I mean, anybody that has a character named King Kong in the movie for crying out loud has to make it a number one. There's literally a character named King Kong. The look in the guy's eyes.
And it made such an impression. It went from being obscure to number one instantly. I was like, this movie is it. this is what i swear i i watched the first hour and i'm like okay it's okay but that last half hour whoa such a good movie man definitely definitely highly recommend this one um directed by herman yow
Hong Kong. Check it out. Dude, I'm telling you. That was Bill's number four? Yeah, it was my number four. Oh, I'm sorry. Number four. Number four. Yeah, because I think number five was Shram. That's right. Shram. That's right. But Bill's number four is my number one, and it is The Untold Story.
Now we're going to get all of a sudden the sales of Untold Story. If anybody can find the Untold Story, let me know because I'd definitely love to buy it. So let's go down. Let's run it down, and then we'll get to the caller. So we'll go to Dr. Shock first.
His top five, five to one, body bags, number five, body snatchers, number four. You got a body theme going on, Dave. Number four is fire in the sky, which is a body being lifted out. And then you got return to living dead three, a body being resurrected. And then you got bloodstone subspecies too. Well, we got a dead body. Let's just say you saw quite a few bodies. So that is Dave's top five. Let's go to Bill's top five.
uh gore fest we got number four which is hong kong the untold story number three we got fire in the sky number two the vanishing and number one needful thing Let's get to Pearl's eight movies. Let's go. Number five, Man's Best Friend. Number four was a tie with The Vanishing and The Good Son. Number three was The Crush, tied with Return of the Living Dead Part 3. Number two is body bags and pearls. Number one is needful things.
Get to my top five, Needful Things number five, Body Bags number four, Body Snatchers number three, The Washing Machine number two, and my number one film of 93 is The Untold Stories. There you go, listeners. The Crew's Top 5. I hope y'all have enjoyed that.
All righty, with our top fives done, we're going to head over to Dr. Shock first to give us what our next episode is going to be about. And then we're going to go to you, the listeners. We'll listen to your calls and then we'll announce again what our next episode is about. But Dave, what is... The next episode of LOTC. The next episode of LOTC, it's going to be a general discussion, which I know, Bill, is one of your favorites type of episodes.
It's called Kills and Killers. Episode 427 is going to be called Kills and Killers. Who's your favorite killer? What's your favorite kill? Or what are your favorite kills? And it's just, like I said, a general discussion about, you know, like the minds of a killer and the films that have. Your favorites. But I think the most interesting aspect of this episode is the guest. Yes. The guest for this episode.
And will he be able to be called this, after this episode, the Unknown Cold? Thus the reason the name sounds familiar with Killer and Killers. Yes. I'm guessing this was his idea for a time. Yes. OK. But so it's a general discussion and the unknown caller will be our guest. So. Oh, and we will not be able to record on Skype next time. That's right. That's right. Although, did you figure out a way to do it through Teams?
No, we're going to be doing Zoom, listeners. Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. What was that? That was the PBS show. They always played after the electric company. Yeah. Well, the reason I asked Greg is because when I was upstairs and didn't realize it was 6.30 and not 7, was because it says Greg is calling you through Teams.
I have no clue. So cool. All right, let's get into this thing. Let's get into the calls. We're going to go to caller number one, which is Darren from Northern California. I'm Greg Pearl, Dave Bill, Darren from Northern California calling. And welcome, Gary Hill. Hope you have a fantastic show discussing 1993. Okay. Okay, 1993. For me... As the Dickens novel says, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. For me, it was both a shitty year and the most fantastic year.
It was a shitty year because it was the year I lost my mother. And it was a fantastic year because it was also the year I met the woman who would become my wife. And ever since then, it's been great years ever since. All right. So here we go. We're talking 1993. Yeah, not the strongest of years in the 90s, but... I was managed to get five. Five of them are Stephen King adaptations. The first one was the miniseries, the Tommyknockers.
Was it the best Stephen King miniseries? No. But you've got to admit, Stephen King himself said that this was during a time when he was really... drug out, and he really didn't even remember writing this book. So if this is what a no-memory Stephen King can write, and it's no wonder that he's one of the best horror writers ever.
Number four is The Dark Half by George Romero, also based on a Stephen King novel. I really enjoyed this. A lot of people, I mean, it's one of George Romero's lesser films, but still a fantastic entry. Number three is Body Snacker by Abel Ferreira. It wasn't as great as the original or the 1978 version, but it was still a strong entry in the series. And I thought Gabrielle Anwar and Kelly did a fantastic job in those films. Number two is Needful Things by Frazier Heston.
Starring Max Foncitao and Ed Harris and Bonnie Bedelia. Yeah, I mean, they tried to cram that huge novel into a movie, and I thought they did a good job with what they had to work with. Finally, my favorite, and it's Anthology Pearl. Body Bags by John Carpenter and Toby Hooper, because Toby Hooper directed the third segment. And this was rumored to have supposed to be the beginning of a TV series for Showtime. I wish it had gone to the series. It would have been fantastic.
All right. Hope you guys have a great show. Talk in 1993, and I'll talk to you next time. Take care. Bye-bye. Boom. Great list there, buddy. And you know what? He brought up the dark half. That's the one I was I was watching right before we started recording and I did not get to finish it because it's over two hours. I'm liking, I think Timothy Hutton, Tim Hutton is, well, Tim Hutton at that point, he's given a great performance. He really is. He's very good in that movie.
And it's a decent adaptation. It's very bizarre because you don't quite know what the hell is happening. and has a really sort of bizarre setup at the beginning. But I was digging it. The problem is it's just too long. There's no reason for that storyline. That movie needs to be two hours. It just doesn't. There's too much in there.
Um, it's too much padding. I know Stephen King's books are enormous. Right. Um, but there's, you know, there's just not enough in that book, in that movie to, to justify its two hour, um, uh, length. I'm glad he brought up Tommyknockers because I wondered if somebody here on the panel would have brought it up. I rewatched it, and I honestly hadn't seen it since it was a miniseries back in 93. Yeah. And not a bad little film, you know.
Some of the effects are dated and it's very 1993, but not bad. And, you know, you got this green glow in the forest and you've got questions about faith and religion and cult nature. You get to see Tracy Lords and Mark Helgenberger and Jimmy Smits. It's not bad. I wouldn't put it up there with Misery or Needful Things in the 90s, but you could do worse than Tommy.
All right, cool. Thank you, Darren. Let's go to the next caller. Hello, Creeps. This is Darren Johns calling in from Canada for the 1993 episode. This year I didn't think was nowhere near as good as any of the other years so far. I mean, maybe I've missed something. when I was looking, but I'm not really sure, but I do have a top five here somewhat.
just want to say hi to dave greg bill and pearl first and special guest i believe is gary welcome to the show i'm going to start off with my number five and that's body bags Number four, tick. Number three, the dark half. Number two is needful things. And number one, even though I haven't seen it in quite a while, but I'm going to have to rewatch this one very soon, is Return of the Living Dead 3. I remember loving this movie back in the day, but...
I'm not really sure if it holds up well, but I know it's better than these other ones. And it's not that they're bad movies. Maybe Jason Goes to Hell is somebody's favorite from 93. Man, there just wasn't that one standout movie that I remember from this year at all. but anyway take care thanks for everything you guys do i'm looking forward to everybody else less like i said maybe i missed something talk to everybody later bye
Damn, love the mention of ticks. Yeah, and I like how he brought up our, and ticks, that's the first mention of that one today. That's a fun one. Yeah, but Return of the Living Dead 3, it does hold up, by the way, Derek. And I know you did not miss a whole lot by 93. I was wondering how long it would take to get Jason Goes to Hell.
Finally, somebody brought that up. Take that whole, only a Voorhees can kill a Voorhees and turn it sideways and cram it where the sun don't shine. This is your favorite in the franchise. Now, you know what? It's funny because I used to really, really dislike part five. I would watch part five over Jason Goes to Hell. Now, I would. Would you take Jason Manhattan?
Yes, I would take Jason Manhattan because you know what? The only disappointing parts are this one set in Manhattan. Everyone said, oh, Jason takes a boat ride. The boat ride was the good part. I liked those scenes on the boat. It's just when they got to Manhattan, they had all this stuff planned and they pulled the budget so they can only do a few things. So it's not really the filmmaker's fault. Yeah, I would take Manhattan over Jason Goes to Hell.
I would take Jason and the Ice Capades over. Jason goes to hell. I love it. Let's go to our next caller here. Let's go to Anthony. Hello, Creepers. This is Anthony Arbor. National Master General calling in for my top five of 1993. 1993. What a year? I guess. Okay, I'm drinking peanut butter whiskey. This time I've got scatterbrain. I'm going to switch it up. Switcheroo from the screwball. And my top five. Oh, cheers. Hey, right off the top, cheers. Love you all. Peace and love.
Peanut buttery. Okay, top five. And we're also doing the... Wendy Shot Challenge is where we take an extra shot every time we have a sequel or a franchise installment in our list. And I guess right off the bat, I'm going to take one because my number five is Jason goes to hell. And I'm going to cheers to that. And also, all you haters out there, just get over it. Come on. It's a fun movie. The Jason Lohr is not to be held that favor. Come on. It makes no sense.
I love it. I love it. But Jason goes to hell number five. Cheers. Peace and love. He's had too much of that whiskey. My number four is Puppet Master 4 because I love all the Puppet Masters. My number three is The Dark Half, which I thought I had seen, but I saw for the first time recently. It's an under-radar, I guess, kind of Stephen King and Romero directed.
Number two is just ridiculous over-the-top body horror that body melts. And, oh, shit, sorry, I did not take a shot for Puppet Master 4. Did I? I'm pretty sure I did. Did I not? Okay. Sorry. Do it anyways. Apologies. How dare I? Puppet Master 4. Cheers. Oh, my God. Jesus, it sounds like he swallows the phone. Body metal number two, number one, dead alive. Because this is all you people. Like, who had dead alive in 92. Now, what are you going to do in 93? What are you going to put in 93?
Dead Alive is just a masterclass in horror effects. If you love gore, it's just unreal. I remember watching that in high school and rewinding it and playing it back in slow motion just to see how the effects, how they did what they did. And it's unreal. I'm sure everybody knows. And I'm sure when you say I'm sure everyone's going to have it on the list, people won't have it on the list because when you say I'm sure, that's guaranteed that it won't be everybody. But anyway.
I also, that's my list, and I also did want to do a thing. I did want to mention this, a little feature, I guess, of calls I wanted to start doing where I wanted to do a thing called Flashback Friday. Because I was recently talking with 0010. And the reason he's got this is 93 listeners is because it was released in the United States in 93.
We put it in 92 because that was the official New Zealand release. Right. I just went by that. I didn't even look up if it was because a lot of times I will go by the year it's released in the U.S. I didn't even look it up that time, though. And, you know, I was like, well, what else are you going to put in 93? Well, I'm sure shit, not going to put Jason Goes to Hell in 93. But I'm glad he brought up body melt, because for the longest time, I had it in my list.
I did too. I had that in my list as well. I like that one as well. That's the first mention of that one. Let's finish his call out and see what he's got. I should have probably just hung up and started again with another call. But I did want to say dead alive and body melt. Great double feature. And I was talking about Flashback Friday. Before I get to that, I'm going to do one more shot of peanut butter whiskey. If I have to, geez.
Now what Flashback Friday is, as I said, I was reminiscing with, we've covered Dumbledore with Tim. About just like the history of LOTC. And then I, you know, I admitted that, you know, while I've heard a lot of old episodes and I've gone back and forth in time. I've never actually listened to, and I know people have listened to every single LOTC episode, and it's a daunting task. And I realized that I got to do it, and I'm doing it.
And I just want to point out just some moments in LOTC history, which I think are noteworthy. And one of them that I just came across was episode 33 of the Universal Horror. The Universal Horror episode, it's with Greg and Dave and Double H. Number one, it's a great just breakdown of all of Universal Horror films. you know, Frankenstein, Mummy, Dracula, and
But a great moment that happened within that is Bill Shetty just, like, appeared. He just randomly interrupts the call to talk about how he was watching Bill O'Reilly. He called people statists who like the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre film, which was the 2013 version.
I was just listening to him like, man, this is like a moment in history. Bill Shetty, for those who don't know Bill, I'm sure most people know Bill Shetty. I call him the curmudgeon-y uncle of the horror family. He's such a curmudgeon. I think he's retired from podcasting, but it was a great moment in episode 33 of The Universe of Horror. You know, get to it, listen to it.
And I'm going to continue on this journey of going back and listening as much as I can of all the past episodes. And maybe I'll get to them potentially by the time I'm like 65 years old. That's it for me. I'm going to get off. Love you all. Peace and love. Hugs and kisses. Hugs and kisses. Oh, my God. What a call. I remember that. I didn't know it was on that episode and I didn't know how long ago it was, but I do remember.
Bill calling in, he had just seen Bill O'Reilly sort of talking down about the new Texas Chainsaw movie that had just come out. It had to be the first half of the 2010. Right. I don't even remember honestly. I don't remember either. I mean, I did. But yeah, I do remember him just sort of calling in toward the end of it to throw that out there.
trying to get everybody to go see the new texas chainsaw almost like stick it to bill o'reilly all right well cool let's go let's go to our next caller here who we got we got uh Da-da-da-da-da-da. Here we go. Hey, Alien of the Creeps. Victoria Collinan for the 1993 episode. And this was not a good year. It wasn't bad. So I'm just going to start with some honorable mentions and then get to my list real quick.
My first honorable mention was a first-time watch of the adaption of Stephen King's novel Needful Things. I felt it lacked a little bit what the book had. So I had it on the list, and then I watched some other things, and instead of now, I don't think it makes the list. So I think it would have been more cutters like maybe a mini series where we could delve into. You know, a little more just they go in there and they're immediately willing to do.
you know, this trick or favor, you know, and then get the item or I would have liked to focus on the items more. I don't know. I prefer the book. Anyway. The next one was another first time watch of a movie called Skinner with Ted Raimi and Ricky Lake. And just watch that movie. It's on TV. It's weird. It's very weird. But it's a fun time.
The next one, this is a mention for Greg Bench because I know how much he likes this one. I know the first time watched last time, well, whenever Greg Bench was on, to talk about body melt. That's a movie. That's what I can say about that one. The other honorable mention for movies is an intro, I think an intro horror that I know I saw when I was younger called The Good Son. And those are my movie honorable. Oh, I'm sorry. One more.
This, I know, is going to be brought up, and to me, as much as I love this movie, it's my favorite movie of all time, I've got to put it as an honorable mention and not strict horror with Jurassic Park. I get that there are horror elements, but it just skirts the line a little too much. But again, it's my favorite movie. I love it.
So there's that. All right, so my list is, number five is, again, a first-time watch, a new one from... not a new one, I apologize, a one from YouTube, a Spanish one called I'm going to mispronounce the hell out of this. Plenluno, Plenluno, P-L-E-N-L-U-N-O. A full movie is available on YouTube. It is a zero-budget movie. It is like someone with some friends made a movie.
So go in with just no expectations. Don't expect good acting, any of that. Have a fun time. It's a werewolf movie. And for me, what sold me on it was... Oh, and... Got cut off. Victoria got cut off. I thought it was coming off. And you know what? Some more first-time mentions there. Yeah. Which are pretty cool. And you know what? Boy.
First one to bring up that this was the year of Jurassic Park. And yes, I don't know that that would make anybody's horror list, but it's not like it's so far off the radar. That's right. Absolutely. I mean, if you can mention Carnasaur, you can mention Jurassic. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Let's go to our next call. Okay, so I got benched.
All right, so I'm just going to go through these. Like I said, I'm not going to try to pronounce it again, but my number five, what I was going to say was the man that plays the werewolf is just pure evil. Like he... enjoys killing he enjoys it and you're not going to get a lot of werewolves you're not going to get a lot of you know, the actual werewolf itself, but what you do get is just a front watch. Number four, I have one that is
Not a first-time watch, but I hadn't watched it in a good long while. And it's called Necronomicon, The Book of the Dead. It's got a lot of... It's an anthology, and one of these segments is directed by Brian Newsman. And it's got Jeffrey Combs and David Warner in it, so I'd recommend giving that a watch. Number three is Bloodstone Subspecies 2. I guess I'm going to also watch that entire franchise.
Number two is The Dark Half, my second Stephen King adaption. I remember reading the book. I don't know. 14, I guess, and being blown away by it. I remember it because I'm pretty sure that was the cover that had a hand with, like, eyeballs in it. Like, and it creeped me the hell out. And my number one is another anthology, Body Bad. Apparently this was supposed to be a series for Showtime to rival HBO's Tales from the Crypt, and it got nixed, so they just put the three segments into a movie.
I love John Carpenter having a blast as the ghoul or the wraparound. So many fun cameos from Wes Craven to Sam Rainey to Toby Hooper, David Warren again. Mark Harmon being in the last segment. So anyway, that's my list, and I hope everyone's doing well, and I'll talk to you all later. Bye. Boom, Victoria. Very cool. Good list. Another one with body bags at number one. That's great. And you know what? I was going to mention it, or Victoria, let us know.
Well, with Needful Things, you said it was lacking from the book. Now, did you see the three-hour version of it? see that's true because the three hour does go a little more detailed Yeah, so I'm guessing she probably only saw the two hour version. I would be interested if she gets a chance to check out the three hour version, what her thoughts would be on that one. Absolutely. Love the mention of Skinner.
Yes. Such a damn good movie, Ted Raimi. That's a very interesting film. I'd seen it for the first time when I was chatting with Victoria, and she said, Bill, you've got to check this out. Yeah, Raimi's interesting in this one. Yeah, he's great. Tracy Lourdes is so robotic, and I'm not knocking Tracy Lourdes. It's the way they wrote her character. Like, the stupidity of her character in this movie, like...
But watch the movie and you'll know what I'm talking about. Like, dude, they did not write her character right in this movie at all. But it's a fun final scene. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Definitely worth a watch. Skinner. So let's go. She called one more time. Let's see. Third call right here. Let's see. Okay, so this is Victoria. There's just one more thing I wanted to mention about 1993. Not a movie, but a TV show that started in 93, The Exiles.
And I was about six, going on seven. I would have been turning seven that year when it came out. And I think it was my dad who first put it on and I wanted to watch it. I heard, I think he just said it was some scary show. And my mom did not want me to watch it, but I was just not going to have no furniture. I was going to watch this show. And so my dad and I remember my dad sitting me down and telling me.
And I think this is the reason I love horror or I started really getting into horror is he kind of explained how, you know, it's a TV show. It's not real. They're pretend. And, you know, all this kind of like conspiracy stuff went over my head till I was older. But I remember so clearly. Some of those episodes, like shapes with the werewolves or tombs with the tombs who could do the stretch thing.
I was fascinated by it. And I think that was really what kicked my love into horror into overdrive. And it really... Shot me off into, you know, the person I am today with what I love and what I want. And so I just wanted to mention that it's my absolute favorite TV show of all time. And I think I'm going to go now and rewatch it. All right, I'll talk to you later. Bye. Very cool. That was a groundbreaking series. I mean, it really was. And so cool. Just so creative.
It's a good one. Absolutely. Let's go to the unknown caller. Unknown caller. Hey, guys. So 1993. Why was everything so dark and wet? Why are early 90 horror movies so wet and sweaty and just like kind of dark and sweaty? So sweaty. Anyway, I decided to focus more on body horror. I'm sure a lot of people have opinions on things. 1993 was kind of... Man, some weird movies, right? I like Return of the Living Dead Part 3. That's pretty good. Matinee. I love matinee. Sorry.
I'm just kind of yawning at how boring this year is. Anyway, Future Shock, the fun movie picks. Dark Half, not bad. But anyway, my three are body snatchers, which is really good. On a rewatch, there is one funny scene towards the end. The child falling from a helicopter is pretty funny. But, you know, a good commentary on the way the world is and how the government thinks they can take over and will just all fall in line.
Not that I'm saying that's going on right now. I mean, who am I to say that that kind of stuff will be going on right now? You know, I have no opinion on that. My second one is body melts, which I'm not going to say anything about. I just want to say that, yeah, Australian fucked up. And so sweaty. So sweaty. And then my last movie is Skinner. With Ted Raimi as the bad guy?
I don't know what I want to say about this, this body horror. Good. Watch, please, on Tubi now. Van Zagel TV, guys. Come on, do it. Skinner. My number one for 1993. I will not say why. Just watch. And it's gross, but that kind of... Kind of like it a lot. We'll talk to you soon. I may call back. Maybe not. I don't know. I'm not Greg from Ohio, so I don't know if I'd do that. But anyway, you guys have a great night. Bye.
He does so good at impressions, dude. It's crazy. He was pretty good there. Anthony R. I'm afraid of what he'll say about me next time. I want to hear him say Anthony R. I want to do Anthony R. That's what he needs to do. But it's funny he mentioned... Greg Bench goes, guess what? It's time for Greg Bench. Alright. All right, land of the Kareeps. You know who this is. Yeah, baby. So I got called out in the previous episode about the directors.
Yeah, that's why I'm calling in, just for the directors. I know it's something about some 1993... I'll probably call back a little later about that one, but right now... It was the directors, and as funny as it sounds, You know, I went to the big dogs, you know, I started compiling a list right off the top of the bat.
But, of course, it's like you're trying to dare to be different. But you don't want to go too deep, but you still want to go deep. And so I'm kind of glad that I didn't call in with my first one, which was Joe Dunn. Because Dante got a lot of love, and I think that that was amazing and that it was great. And I can't disregard any of the ones that were picked.
but i went um i went with the more of the classics and and i was glad that somebody you know went with uh oh my gosh i just his name just eluded me but you know Oh, well, it doesn't matter. I went with... Jack Arnold. I know, not a familiar name. That's okay. I was just trying to pick a director that I have a favorite of theirs, and then...
then you realize that they have more movies you like than what you're aware of. My memory isn't always the best when it comes to remembering these things, but... Jack Arnold, because I saw a poster for The Creature of the Black Lagoon when I was thinking about this topic. So... I was like, what other ones did he make? And to my surprise, he made, also made, on my list, The Incredible Shrinking Man and...
And, you know, again, just trying to be a little different, just trying to think outside the box and give something, you know, a little accolade to one of the lesser known, but yet. you know very poignant uh directors of his time so jack arnold i salute you my friend and uh yeah i mean i'm running out of time and that's okay but I will call back for 1993. I promise this time I won't forget. I will remember. So we'll talk again.
Jack Arnold for a director. That's a good director, yeah. Jack Arnold, of course. Creature from the Black Lagoon, that's going to be top. I don't go to anybody's list. But the other ones he mentioned are good. And Jack Arnold did some other – decent films uh over the years that's a that's a that is a good choice Yeah, I love people that are willing to go a little deeper. And Mr. Bench is willing to get deeper. And I'm just leaving it at that.
Yes. Let's go, Doug. I think it's best we leave it at that. Yeah, let's definitely. Let's go to Bo Patterson. Bo, bring us out of this. Hey, Land of the Creeps. This is Bo Patterson out of Massillon. And I'm calling about the 93 episodes. A little later than usual, I think, but whatever. I'll get it in, hopefully, in time. I'll start real quick because I want to get this one over because I know I'm going to have to call back. Number five would be The Good Sun.
I always knew Macaulay Culkin was a little psychopath, but that movie is trippy in so many ways. Elijah Wood and Macaulay Culkin do great. I love that movie. It's a good, good, good watch. Very thrilling. Four would be needful things. Like I said, I don't think there's a time in the 90s that I will not have a King adaptation on my list. King's the man, plain and simple. In the 90s, he was killing it on some, mostly TV, but like, he was killing it on his adaptation. 3, Puppet Master 4.
This was a video store staple for me, my friends, my cousins. We'd go get Puppet Matcher all the time. One, two, three, four. We'd watch them. It was just fun. Chips and giggles fun. Number two, body bag. This is such a great anthology by the master John Carpenter. The gas station one is probably my favorite one. I think that one has Wes Craven in it. And it has, this anthology has so many great cameos from people. I love that.
Number one, I know a lot of you will not agree, but Leprechaun. I watch this movie every single year, probably a couple times a year around March. That's why it's got to be my number one. I've probably seen that movie more than I've seen a lot of movies, but more than any movie on this list for sure. But that's all I got. I'm going to call you guys right back for The Real League. Nice. Good Liz.
And leprechaun love. I like it. I'm sure Jen Aniston is really proud of that one. Yes, exactly. That's at the top of her resume. All right, here we go for his next call. I was going to say, didn't she go through what McConaughey and those guys did with TCM Ford to try to get her name off it, but it was too late? Oh, for Leprechaun? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. Not for sure. Maybe. Here we go. Hey, Landon the Creeps. Hope Addison again. And like I said, it's time for The Real List.
This year was so influential in my life as a kid of the 90s. I was five years old this year. Now, I might not have seen it all. I don't remember it all from five years old, but throughout the 90s, all of these movies played a role in my life. I've watched pretty much all of them every single year. And some of them are my favorite movies of all time.
First, we'll go with Double Double Toiling Trouble. That's not one I watch every year. Don't get me twisted. That's one that me, my sisters, and my brother, we watch. Like I said, child of the 90s. I'm the oldest. Me and my twin sister, we're five. We watch this movie every single year, probably, up until probably about eight, nine years old. Because, well, it was Mary Kane and that show, so you couldn't go wrong.
Second, Tales from the Crypt Keeper. It was actually a cartoon series on Saturday morning I used to watch when I was real little. Nice little full of cereal, pop down, watch that. And then... This is also the year of Adam's family values. This is a yearly watch for sure. I watch it probably a couple times a year, let's be honest. You can't go wrong. And, of course, you know, I had a huge crush on Christina Ricci.
Fourth, I would go with The Halloween Tree, a Radberry adaptation with Leonard Nimoy as Mountain Trout in The Narrator. I remember the first time I watched it, I was eight years old, and I came home from trick-or-treating, and it was on TV, and I'm like, what the hell is this?
And for like two years, I couldn't find it. Finally, it came on Cartoon Network one time when I was like 10, 11 years old. And after that, I've watched it so far. I have the VHS of it from an old video store that closed. I've got DVD of it. I've got a stuffed animal that my wife made me named Pip. This is a very, very... He got cut off, so let's go to his last call and see what he's got here. Is this final? Paul Patterson again.
And sorry, I promise this will be my last call. But like I said, this year means a lot to me. Uh, well, let me say, I left off on the Halloween tree. Hopefully that I didn't cut that out, but that's very important moving to me as a kid. Um, this would be a nightmare before Christmas.
This gets watched so many times a year throughout the year. My kids love it. I love it. They throw it on randomly. I walk in the living room and all of a sudden, Nightmare Before Christmas is on. I'm like, oh, yeah, let's do this. Can't go wrong. So, there ain't much need to be said about that matchup here. But... Number one, my favorite. It's actually in my top ten favorite movies. Close to the top five. Who knows?
Hocus Pocus. I know, judge me if you will, I don't care. I absolutely love this movie. I love everything about this movie. I remember having the recorded VHS tape. I remember as soon as I could get it on a VHS tape, I got it. I remember my wife bought me the 25th anniversary Blu-ray with all the extended. things and all this and the storyboards. I absolutely love this movie. My kids have even inherited my love for this movie.
Just like Nightmare Before Christmas, I walk in at any given time. It doesn't matter. It could be the 4th of July. They might have this movie on. Or Halloween or Hocus Pocus 2. It just doesn't really matter. And sometimes this movie might get watched six times in a week. And I'm not talking about there in October. We just love this movie. We even listen to the soundtrack. It doesn't matter.
That's all I got. Sorry so long. But this year, like I said, as a kid from the 90s, was very influential for me. And I'm glad I could share it with you guys. Have a good show. Love you guys. Bye. Cool call from Bo Patterson. You know, and first off, he was five years old. In 93, which means he was born the year after I graduated high school. Wow.
But as far as the list of movies, I first wanted to bring up A Nightmare Before Christmas, which, you know, it's questionable if it's a horror film, but it's definitely horror, Jason. It's a classic. It really is. It's just a masterpiece. The Halloween Tree, I'm definitely with him on that one, that animated special. I'm not going to say it's incredibly creepy, but it's definitely, let's put this right, it's creepier than It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown.
And it's a damn good special. Yeah, Ray Bradbury had written it. And I love that he brought up Adam's family values. I actually like that one a little better than the first one. And Christina Ricci steals the movie. My favorite scenes in there in it are with her when she's at the camp. And and just everything. And I really liked Joan Cusack in that one as well as as the sort of heavy. But so much fun.
Again, you wouldn't put it on a horror list, but it is so macabre when they're trying to kill the new baby and they put it in the guillotine. Wow. Yeah, just a really good movie. The musical number is one to remember. Thank you, Bo, for calling in. We got just a few more calls here. Let's go to Greg Bench. You did call in, so let's see what he got on his top five.
All right, Land of the Creeps, it's me again. 1993, here we come. I want to make sure I got this one brought in on time. I didn't want to forget. Had plenty of notes. I worked all day waiting until after work. I'm not even driving, Bill. I'm parked. I got my mind focused, and I'm ready to roll. So I have a five-way tie. No, Bill, I'm just teasing. Kid man. But, oh, never mind. I'm going to go with number five, Leprechaun. It's...
It's great fun. What more can you say? I mean, it fills that void of leprechaun horror. It's a fun watch. It's not something to be taken seriously as. I don't know. I don't know. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but it is so entertaining. It's such a fun watch, especially around the St. Paddy's Day. And number four, we reviewed this last year, so I had to have it on the list. Body melt. Straight out of Australia, baby. Body melt.
Yeah, it's ooey-gooey, gross, and nasty, but I had to put it on my list. Number three, needful faith. This was a movie I remember way back in 92, 93, watching the making of several times. Because the explosion, thank you entertainment tonight and all these other, you know, behind the scenes. I got to watch that several times before I even got to see the movie. So it gave me the willies. I remember the trailer giving me the heebie-jeebies.
You know, because it's just one of those things of the contact, what it deals with. Number two, I have Captain Supermarket. Oh wait, no, no, no. That's the alternative title from Japan. Captain Supermarket is for Japan. Oh, I'm talking about Army of Darkness. Yes! Who can't have Army of Darkness on your list? You know, and this was going to be my number one, but the number one movie that I have on the list only defeats it because of how... damn scary I still get after all these years.
Oh, what's the math? 32 years? 32 years? Oh my gosh, and the trailer still freaks me out. Ah. So, number one on my list. And he got cut off. Not on number one. The ultimate bitch. It's almost as if he was... planning that. I know he probably was not. Oh, he was. You know he was. Oh, you think so? Maybe. Maybe. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the job. Okay. There was some extra stops and stutters there. Oh, I got a call a third time. I love it. Let's go to number one.
Oh, man, I don't know where it cut me off, but let's just go down the list again. Five, Leprechaun. Four, Body Melt. Three, Needful Things. Two, Captain's Supermarket. Wait, wait. I mean, Army of Darkness. And number one... Fire in the sky. I... This movie terrified me. Way back when, the commercials alone freaked me out to the point that I never wanted to see the movie. Then I see the movie, and it's worse than even my imagination. It's not the scariest movie out there.
That's not what I'm getting at. But I'm also saying that if you believe in what happens in that movie, It chills me to the core, even just thinking about it, let alone seeing that trailer is enough to get my heart rate accelerated and freaks me out. Now, I didn't have a list of ties, but I did want to call and also include a list of five movies that were...
They're the debatable ones. They're ones that I would have on my list, but there's always that screwball that has to say, it's not horror. I'm the master of all genres. That's not horror. Well, fine, whatever. The number five on that list, So I Married an Axe Murderer. Number four, Hocus Pocus. Number three, Adam's Family Values. Number two, Nightmare Before Christmas. And number one, another one that's absolutely chilling.
And I will defend that it's horror. It's right on that cusp. I get it. I get it. Horror is not the main genre, and that's fine. It's fine. But Jurassic Park is absolutely, has some moments of absolute terror. And if you don't believe me, Travel back in time to when some of you were 10 or 11, 12, 18. three, I don't know, five. Whenever you saw that movie, you can't tell me that you weren't horrified.
with the whole velaster after chase you can't tell me that you weren't horrified When you see that goat come slamming down on the vehicle, you can't tell me you're not horrified when the arm of Samuel L. Jackson's character comes dropping a whip down. Terry, it's on the cusp. I get it. But it is enough to put it into a horror category. That's my defense. Can't wait to hear this episode, and we'll talk at you later.
Very cool. I love it. I remember taking my younger brother to see Jurassic Park because I was old enough to get into a rated R film and he wasn't. So I had to be the quote-unquote adult. Has that ever been funny? That's never been funny. I had never thought of it as horror. Jason, there's... Thriller elements. There's scary. If it scares you, I can see you putting it in, but there's no doubting its influence and impact on kids. Absolutely. All right, let's go to...
Hey, Creepers, it's Greg, G-Reg, other Greg from Wilmington, giving a call for the 1993 episode, I believe. Yeah, 1993. Sorry, I missed you guys' past couple shows. The director, oh, God, why am I so brain dead? It's the end of the day. It's the end of the day at work. That's what it is. But the triple feature, that was a really cool episode. Really interesting to hear what y'all had.
in mind. And, yeah, as far as 1993 goes, there were some kind of, like, movies I'd heard of, some I liked, some I didn't, but there were some obscure ones I saw on Whip. that I tried to find on the streaming services I've got and just couldn't get anything on them. So things like Full Eclipse, The Gray Knight.
I can't remember the other ones right offhand. I was trying to look them up right as the phone was connecting. But anyway, the ones that I saw, and what I would say is my top five, probably say Body Bags, number one, and after that, The Dark Half. Return of the Living Dead Part 3. I thought it was surprisingly good. I think I saw the teenager and didn't think much of it.
or early 20s. I didn't think much of it, but going back and watching it again, like, this was a pretty darn good movie. Really good installment. Took things in a different direction. I kind of like the cyborg. Zombie, the way they went about things, it was interesting, different takes. uh not just like oh more tanks open up and oh here's another tar man um so that was that was a pretty cool uh addition to the return of living dead probably the last good one in my opinion and
Jason goes to hell. I enjoy that quite a bit. And Kronos, I guess to round out the top five, you know, it's Guillermo del Toro. What more can you say? And I need to watch that one again. It's been quite a while. Yeah, and I hope everybody's having a really great spring. You're really getting into the spring here. It's starting to feel like summer here in North Cackalacky. Oh, yeah, I saw Sinners. Man, if anybody has not seen that yet, check that out. It was really good.
All right, I'll let you all go. Have a great time in 1993. Can't wait to hear about it. Bye. Oh, G-Ray calling in. We haven't missed you, buddy. Glad you called me in, buddy. Summer. Holy shit. I'm still wearing a fucking toque. No, it ain't. A what? What did you say? You guys call them beanies? Makes you sound like a kid in the corner. I know what a toque is thanks to Strange Brew. A toque is a wool hat.
Yes. I love it. Beanie. It's like you're a kid being sent to detention. Who wears a beanie? A beanie with a little propeller on top. I call it a beanie. Watch it, buddy. I'll fight you in the Canadian snow. Let's see who lasts. Let's do it. Let's do it. Blood in the snow. Let's do it. Each of you wearing a beanie. That's right. The winner gets to name. He's the beanie. What did you call it one more time? A toque? A toque. T-O-Q-U-E. Yep. Toque.
When you say beanie, I think I'm getting hit in the head with a water balloon or something. You say toque. I think you're taking a toque or something. What the fuck's a toque? Hey, I can do that too. One toque over the line. Yeah, one toque over the line. Let's go to this caller. Oh, my God. I'm going to be on the next episode. Oh, my God. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. Unknown call. Uh, no caller. Come on, Kraut. Uh, no caller. Uh, no caller. Uh, no caller. Uh, no caller. Uh, no caller. Uh, no caller.
I'm going to kill all of you. Oh, shit. That went dark really quick. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Do I have to look into my bed tonight? What the hell is going on? Well, we know he's going to be on the next episode. What was that? Maybe he's a frogger. Frogger. Frogger. What the fuck? Frogger. Isn't that what it was called? Frogging? Yeah, you're right.
All right, let's go to Patrick Gunner. Patrick Gunner, who was actually Sackett to call. Of course, Darren hit number one. Patrick, come in, Sackett. But here's Patrick's top five. Number one was Army of Darkness. Number two, The Good Son. Number three, Leprechaun. Number four, Kronos. And number five was The Dark Half.
Uh, so there is the top five for Patrick Kronos. I just, I didn't know that was this year. Shoot. Well, didn't the episode, didn't we talk about it as 91 or 92? I want to say it was like 91 or 92 for sure, but it's one of those. That's the second list of his army of darkness. I had that on my 92 list, but if I'm being honest, I saw it in 93. So I really can't fault anybody for putting it on a 93 list. Well, the other one was, was it Anthony brought up dead alive? Yes, that was the one, yeah.
dead alive i did not know that was i i put it as 92 we talk about that i put it as 92 yeah i mean it's one of these floating things i mean it might have been premiered in spain like it's one of those things right right It's when you get it, it's harder to keep track of it. Like back, like when we're doing our top. like 5, 10 of the year now.
it's a little easier to track it i don't when it's an older film i don't always go back and look and say hey what year did it premiere in the united states yeah um you know when we're doing our top 10 i'll do that like our top 10 of 2025 I'll do that and say, OK, well, is this legitimately a 2025 film? I don't always do that when we go back to like the 80s, 90s, 70s. I mean, this is going down a rabbit hole, but like you could get a film that.
was at the Milan Film Festival in 1991, but didn't release until 94. It happens, right? Yeah, it happens. That's kind of what it says. In Spain, it was in 91. Film Festival, 92. And USA, 94. There you go. Oh, it doesn't have 93 at all. No. Interesting. All right, let's go. Strange world of film distribution. It is, man. It's just hard to keep up with these movies in the 90s. God dang. But hey, it's on Letterboxd, so it counts. There you go. There you go.
All right, let's go to 0010, Tim Mitchell, and he always does this. He always sends us an email, and he always sends pictures with captions, and here is his captions. Big events of 1993, sacks and sex. Clinton gets inaugurated. Five weeks later, Waco goes up in smoke. And rounding out the year, Kat and I get married. That's right. Over 31 years, and she hasn't killed me yet. Got to be doing something right. It was Wake Out, Wake Out 90. I remember coming home each day from high school.
watching CNN to see what was going on. Yeah, that went on for a while. Because back then, that was a bit of a novel concept. It was more akin to Jonestown. That was, yeah, if anybody doesn't know Dave Koresh, we'll come up. Yep. All right, let's go to his voicemail. This is 00 Tim out in Bloomington, Indiana. Top 5 Horrors of 1993, starting at number 5, Witchboard 2, When a Stranger Calls Back, Needful Things, Body Bags, and number 1, Dark Water.
I do have an honorable mention from the same year, Full Eclipse. It's a corny idea, but there's enough talent, it never sinks down to the Sharknado level. It's like Underworld meets Magnum Force. It could be a fun time. Anyway, that's my bit. You guys are the best, and 00 Tim out. That's cool. Some new entries there as well. Yeah. Wow. And he's in the Brian Scott phone call. Give me your five in a minute. There you go. That's right. Appreciate it, Tim.
And we're going to go ahead and go to Brian Scott right now as we mention it. Let's see what Brian Scott gives. And he also told me, Kevin Tenet for life, TV guides for life, Greg, my 80s brother for life. And you damn right you are, Brian. We love you, buddy. Let's see what he's got here. Hey guys, Horror Movie Fanboy here, calling for 1993. I don't think it's a particularly good, strong year, but there was some good movies that I did enjoy, like Fire in the Sky.
scariest alien abduction movie ever. Great cast, too, in Fire in the Sky. Return of the Living Dead 3. Melinda Clark. Howdy. That's all I got to say about that. When a stranger calls back. What a great opening scene. Better than the original, in my opinion, where the guy knocks on the door. Creepy. Kevin Tenney's Witchboard 2. It's actually a really good sequel to the first one, the 1986 Tawny Contain witchboard movie. And Kevin Tenney...
Directed Night of the Demons, 1988. Right, Pearl? Yep. Awesome. And then, so prevalent in the early 90s, Needful Things, Tommyknockers, a feature film, Dark Half. Stephen King adaptions were great. Shining is my favorite book ever and my favorite movie, but Tommyknockers, while the... While the miniseries wasn't fantastic, Tom Necker's The Book is amazing. It's my second favorite Stephen King book. Gary Hill.
Dude, have fun recording. I love listening to your calls because on the last episode you said Joe Dante on that call in and that was Greg's pick too. And the burbs you both brought up. I always hearken back to one of my favorite... times i've ever recorded an episode was with dr shock on considering the cinema the top our top 10 80s comedies and the burbs was like my number two or three that year what a great movie The Burbs is fantastic. And Gary Hill... You threw in a comment that Grease2
was the better of the movies, I do agree. Cool rider, if you're cool enough, burn me through the through. If you want to hear more of that, go back and listen to... The 80s chat episode, I don't know, to see, like, 80s chat number 8,000. I made a complete drunken fool of myself, like I am now, probably, singing Grace 2 songs. But, um... What else do I have to say? Oh, I don't know. I got too much to say, but I won't. I'll cut it short here with saying Dr. Shock.
Love you, man. Bill. Bill Vervagel. Amazing. Who says that? Amazing. We haven't heard from Monkeybone in a while, have we? My good old buddy, Monkeybone, I love that guy. He used to call in again. And Pearl, the heart and soul of LOTC. And Greg, my 80s brother. LOTC for life.
I got more out of the kick that we hear a motorcycle pulling up. And then the police behind it. I'm like, what the hell are we listening to? Yeah, I know. There was something going on back there. I figure Brian was at the racetrack. We typically have burns. Initially, but before the guy, I thought maybe he was like being, you know, dive-bombed by Snoopy Sop with Camel or something. It was like, what the hell is that going on in the background?
No, it was then, of course, the 80s episode that Brian and I recorded for DVD Infatuation was 80s comedies was so much fun. And the burbs is a great entry on that as well as a. a horror entry, um, for the directors. That was, uh, that was a good one. Yep. Absolutely. Alrighty. Well, we've got one more call left and this is from Greg P and Amy Lee, the gruesome twosome. So let's go to this call.
I got a song stuck in your head. You said, let's roll with it. Oh, which one? Yeah. Oh, I can't sing, but you just, you gotta roll with it, baby. That's cool. So, did you sign the Tim Burton movie? Yes. All right. Since we skipped that part, I'm going to let you do that right quick. I skipped it because I'm indecisive. Well, you're indecisive and we had Dawson here and we were busy and I was impatient. So there you go. So. All of the above. Beetlejuice, Sleepy Hollow, Dark Shadows.
Okay. Would you do them in that order or does it matter? Probably. Okay. And then there's my bonus Beetlejuice 2. Not that it was the best movie, but...
It's just, you know, you kind of have to. Well, like I said, I'm really surprised. If I was going to do that particular list, I would definitely have Nightmare Before Christmas. And you said, it's a cartoon. How do you direct that? You should watch the documentary because there's a lot of work that goes into it. Oh, if they were all cartoons, they would. you know, Nightmare would definitely be my number one. Right. No, you can do Nightmare, but like I said, I see what you picked.
Human movies. I just adore that. Yes, it was human movies. And since so many people pick Joe Dante. So who I really wanted to do was Roman Polanski. You may or may not know, during the 70s, he had sex with a minor and got arrested and he fled the country. So there it is. And there's a whole story to it. And I go into that and I don't condone it, but still his.
Movies have a certain effect on me. First one, fearless vampire killers. If you... A lot of people, you either love it or you hate it, but it... Really, it's playing the Dracula Ben Helsing.
scenario from the jewish perspective which is hilarious to me i'm like why do i know this name well i watched it and you fell asleep no sharon tate yes yes why does this sound so familiar yes because of sharon tate yes he was that was his wife and she was pregnant with his kid when she was murdered by the manson family
You know, I feel like he went a little crazy after that. I can imagine. Followed up with that would be The Ninth Gate with Johnny Depp. Oh, you love that movie. I love that movie. I've watched that movie umpteen times, and every time I get this just... Eerie, creepy. It's got that satanic undertone. It's fantastic. What's her name? Who's what's her name? Who's the chicken? It's Roman Polanski's wife, but she's not...
Yeah, that's not anybody famous. What movie am I thinking of? I don't know. I'll come back to that. There's so many other, well, I say there's so many others. You know, everybody loves Rosemary's Baby. It's definitely scary. It is actually my least favorite of his films. But a movie that is not horror, won tons of Academy Awards, is Chinatown. This is a Fem Noir done.
what the movie that made jack nicholson a star definitely uh one of the top five movies of all time that's why he would be my number one director so okay cool all right so now moving on sorry that we wasted time on this I'll edit this as much as possible. I'll try to be more decisive next time. It'll be all right. So 1993, our list, our top five for 1993.
Did I tell them this is the gruesome twosome? Oh, no, but you told them we were at 93 three different times. Hi, this is your gruesome twosome. We're going to talk about 1993. I don't know what the heck's wrong with, but hey. Alright. We got sidetracked before we got started. I know. So do you want to go first? You pick a movie and go. So Stephen King obviously has awesome movies, but I get very antsy if I have to sit still too long, so I don't...
Typically watch a lot of his movies, but two of them are on my list. Okay. Dark half being the first. Dude had a twin in his head. Pretty much what I remember from it. Yeah, I didn't do any research on your films, so I didn't even look at your list. That's good. I'm sure somebody has talked about this. Less than like 30 minutes this time. Maybe. My number five is going to be Fire in the Sky. This has got Robert Patrick, D.B. Sweeney, Henry Thomas, Craig Schiffer.
It's basically an alien abduction film about these four... guys that were i think loggers one gets abducted up this guy is missing and you know everybody's accusing them of doing something nefarious and he shows up a few days later And they go through this whole thing about alien abduction based on a true story. Who knows if it is, but it's still a really good movie. Very intense. Definitely. hits my creep factor. All right, what's your next one?
So children of the corn, too, technically, I guess, came across 92 and 93 lists because it was made in 92 but released in 93. Still on my list.
list yeah okay well that's fine and i know we talked about it before maybe we even talked about it on number two i asked i was surprised it wasn't on yours and you told me no it's a 93 film so i'm like cool so that's funny because i have one like that as well i know they're all like i said when it comes to that you know Movies that have lots of sequels, whatever.
three is about the max that i like and this is i think this is the one that yeah i agree with you yeah after you get about that third sequel they really drop off pretty hard usually But that was the one where they come back and adopt them, I believe. And then they start killing people. All right. Mine is also one of those. It is Guillermo del Toro's Kronos. I believe it's his first film. 92, 93, 94 film.
depending on where you look, but it went to Cannes Film Festival and was released in Mexico in 1993, so that's why it's on my list. I think it's the first time that Ron Perlman works with him. And it's an interesting take on kind of like the vampire genre. There's a grandpa. He owns this curiosity shop or like antique. And he gets this device that requires blood, but it reverses aging. And then... Other people want it. And I believe Ron Perlman is the one that.
wants it and it's the bad guy i could be wrong but i'm I like that. At the end of the movie, I do remember, he starts reverse aging. Everything is going back to when he was younger, getting more virile and all that good stuff. But at the end of the movie, his granddaughter is bleeding. really wants to drink her blood and then he's like you know what i can't do this and so he destroys the device and just accepts that he's just getting old and he's going to die
You could see those beginnings of the del Toro type stuff, and you can definitely see his art. You know, he has a certain style to his drawings and stuff. It's really neat. What's that? That's kind of depressing, having to accept that we age. i don't want to well yeah but it's part of life sweetie this whole pushing 50 All right. What's your next movie? Well, considering we just went from the antiquity type store, we'll go with Needful Things. All right. Needful Things. Yeah. This one.
Definitely could have been on my list, but I knew it would be on yours. I like this film. What do you desire? Basically, you're making a deal with the devil. Just a neat take on that. I should watch that movie again because it's been a long time. It is a very good film. always just makes you think what like what actually would you make a deal with the devil for if anything you know true like little things that you don't even think about what would you do
Little things that you want turned into something so much more drastic. Right, I get that. You know, but anyway, I don't know. I don't know if there's... Anything you would do that for? I mean, unless... What would you do for a condom? I very well made. Is it worth selling your soul to the devil? Sell my soul to the devil for my dog. I'll pass on that. It had to be something really big. She was awesome, though. Have you ever watched the movie Constantine? Haven't you seen what hell looks like?
Yeah, but we work in the medical field. We're pretty much there on a daily basis. Well, there's some truth to that, too. And it's funny, you can always tell the patients that are going to end up there. Sorry, guys. We digress and we're trying to be silly here. All right. So for my next film, we're going to do John Carpenter's Body Bags. This is the anthology film. It's basically got a... all-star cast of people from genre. You know, you've got Toby Hooper and...
Wes Craven, Sam Raimi, they're all got little roles in it. Basically, John Carpenter is a mortician or something to that effect. And I know for a fact, probably everybody and their brother has this on their list or has talked about it, and probably somebody in the Fab Four have talked about it. Well, I like that movie too, mostly because of the anthology part, because, you know, short attention span. But I knew it would be popular probably on yours. Well, of all the people on this,
all-star list. The one person I'm going to bring up and maybe the only other person that would even mention it would probably be Doc. And that is John Agar. My favorite role of his, he was in The Sands of Iwo Jima with John Wayne. War film. But he was in all this sci-fi films from the 50s and... He was in Tarantula from the 50s. Just a really good character actor. Okay, move on to the next one.
So we watched California because I hadn't seen that one before. Well, cool, because that's going to be my next one as well, so we can definitely talk about that one. That was an excellent flick. Kind of depressing, especially coming from, like, podunk West Virginia with the hillbillies because, you know, you... to me it was like this really little fancy guy with you just remember that they are worse in kentucky ain't that right hadn't phil hatchet
Anyway. He's probably going to send me a big F you somewhere. He's on the good side of life, and it seems like he's watching what in our world we would call it a reality TV just live, watching this god-awful couple. It's cringy. Oh, there were so many parts of that movie that was cringy. I told you the part. I said, when you'll know that Brad Pitt is an actor. Oh, God. Because he has that change in his faith.
When you realize, oh my God, he really is a serial killer, you know, and you realize that Brad Pitt can actually act. Well, you had told me that before we watched it, and I knew the exact moment you were talking. I'm pretty sure I looked at you and went, oh my God, Dad, you're absolutely right. Yeah, I mean, he just flipped that switch.
And that's something you see serial killer, sociopath type people do. They're able to separate all that from themselves. You don't even look at him as like the hot dude in that movie. No, no, he is not that at all. I'm like, oh. And that's another thing that makes it great. Here's this really good looking guy, really.
willing to take a chance and do something that you never thought he would do this is probably one of my favorite performances of his i love so many of his movies you're not wrong i mean there's a bunch of them that are very good but This is definitely up there on my list. Juliette Lewis playing kind of Juliette Lewis, I guess you'd say. What's aloof? She's very aloof. I'm not really wanting to believe that he was as bad as he was. You know what I mean?
And then you got David Duchovny. He's kind of the same dude in everything he plays. Yeah, he's almost a monotone actor. He is very monotone. And then Michelle Forbes, who I consider she was. Was she the girlfriend? She was the girlfriend. I was like, yeah, this is just another version of you. Okay, I can kind of see that. Yeah, you were that girl. You were her. And I hope I'm not like that snobby. Depends on the day. Yeah, it just depends on the day. If anybody in this.
group has not seen that film, you need to see it. Alright, so what's going to be your last film? I was almost hesitant to put this on my list with The Good Son. Oh, okay. Like it was when he was still all cute. Oh, okay. So is this an honorable mention? No. Oh, okay. So it is on your list. That's my fifth, I think. There were some others I would have chosen. Right. Such a good actor when he was a kid. Right.
and i like that he played that dip such a different character but it's no different than any of the other you know killer kid movies bad seed omen stuff like that i want to say that is still creepy though i think it is just another version of the bad seed which I think it was a 50s movie. That was a great movie. Except the bad child was a female. And I think he's a good actor now. He was good in that, what was it?
American Horror Story with the vampire thing? He was. He was good. He was creepy. He was really creepy in that. He was. He was some drugged out. I mean, that fit him really well. It did fit him quite well. All right, so my last film is going to be, guess what? An animated film. It is The Halloween Tree. This is a Ray Bradbury book that got turned into a film, which I've shown you, but you're looking at me very blank.
And that's okay. So his voice or the guide throughout the movie is Leonard Nimoy. It's a group of kids. They go, they're going trick-or-treating and they go to one kid's house and he's not there. He's in the hospital. has an appendectomy named, I believe, Pip. This guy kind of takes them through the ages of, you know, the history of Halloween and how it came to be. So like when we went to the Puka Festival, it's very similar. That's the one thing I remembered about.
When we were there, I remember, oh, this is. I could totally see this being, you know, an inspiration for some of the Ray Bradbury stuff. And I'm pretty sure that Ray Bradbury has an Irish background. Wow. We are so going to dairy next time we go to Ireland. Absolutely. We will definitely do that.
So I guess that is our list for 93, a lot quicker than normal. And actually, we talked two subjects, and we're under 20 minutes. And after I edited, it would be even less than that. That's shocking. It is very shocking. Shock me, shock me, shock me with that deviant behavior. I just want to say. Sorry, my brain is all kinds of off today. That's all right. It's all good. Anyhow. I love that movie, though. What? Empire Records. I know. Totally not horror related, but it's stuck in my head. Anyway.
Anyway. You can say it. No. Night, guys. Thanks for keeping the horror alive, and good night. Oh, we're way off on that. Not record for a month and look how we are. My brain's always all over the place. Yeah, it's all good. Maybe too much mushroom coffee. I don't know. It could be. That stuff's great. All right, guys, we're back. I thought for a second you were playing the wrong message that they called in for the wrong episode.
I love it. I love it. Hey, Amy didn't get to get in the last call. No, they didn't. Tim Burton is a great choice, and so is Roman Polanski. And I have to say, I haven't seen the Fearless Vampire Killers yet. It's a good movie. I mean, it's comedy. There's comedy in it, but it's a...
I enjoyed that film that I recommend it. I haven't delved that much into Polanski. So it might be one of those things where you and I still have to record our Chinatown episode. Chinatown or Matt, or we're going to do Matt. Or MASH we're doing first. You're right. We're going to do MASH first. You've got one. Yep.
Very cool. Yep. And then you know what? I'm starting to get a little nervous now that the unknown caller is back. We haven't heard from Monkey Bone. We haven't heard from Theodore, our friend in South America. I'm hoping the unknown caller is not starting his spree. This is true. The other one I haven't heard for ages is Miller Time. That's true. Yeah. Mike Miller and Karen Wagner.
Please let us know that the unknown caller has not found you. Shannon, have you boarded up your apartment door? Yeah, and I hope you all have an alarm system. We're going to have to interrogate the unknown caller when he comes on. And Amy, my favorite Brad Pitt role is Moneyball. Oh, yes, he's very good. For me, it's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. as Cliff, the stuntman. I thought he was tremendous in that movie. I still need to see that film. I just haven't sat and watched it.
Just my favorite line of his is, nah, it was something dumber than that. And then you'll know what it is at the very, it's toward the very end of the movie. I don't even want to set it up if you haven't seen it, but it's. Well, that is the episode tonight. We're going to give our honorable mentions as we do our outros. But before that, let's go to Dr. Shock, Dave Becker. One more time, Dave, can you give us our next episode? Yes, episode number 427, a general discussion about kills and killers.
Who's your favorite killer? What are your favorite kills? And so it's it's that's what it's all about. Tell us who your favorite. I'm guessing we're talking. um slashers maybe serial killers um just any sort of and and favorite kill scenes you know what was your favorite kill scene in a movie And our guest is the unknown caller, thus our concern from not having heard from some people for so long.
that's right i was gonna say this might get into like some thriller true caught to true crime territory yes i'm wondering i'm hoping the unknown caller uh keeps his favorite kills um movie centric it doesn't go beyond that that's right we don't we don't this this is not the place to have a true confession no no i was gonna say when i when i watched shram maybe it was the unknown killer's copy card you know yeah maybe maybe
I love it. So we're going to go ahead and pass around our outros. But before we do that, we'll give our time for honorable mentions as well. So we'll start with you, Dr. Shock. What you got is honorable mentions and then let us hear your outro. All right, let's look at some honorable mentions here. One that did not get brought up. is uh cannibal the musical oh yeah was uh was from this year
And also another full moon, Dollman vs. Demonic Toys. Yep. I actually watched that. The one nice thing about that film is it's about an hour. Yeah, it's not that long. Not that long at all. And I do want to just once again throw some support behind Adam's family values. Like I said, I really enjoyed that entry at the Christina Ricci.
was even better as Wednesday animus. I can't, that's one of the things, as much as I'm a, I like Jenna Ortega, I've not watched the new Wednesday because for me, it's, I just think of Christina Ricci in the role. And that's not to take anything away because, like I said, I haven't seen the new Wednesday. It could be awesome. And I'm not judging it. It's just that's where my mindset is with that. And so, yeah, I was I was happy to see.
Body Melt brought up. So Body Melt was the one we discussed with your two's favorite film, The Greasy Strangler, wasn't it? Yes. That was that episode. Okay. Oh, that greasy strangle. You know, I keep thinking about that damn movie. I can't get it out of my head. I actually enjoyed it. I think I've got to watch it again. I find it a comedy, but the thought of him eating...
Like a greasy fry up for breakfast saying more grease. Everything, everything about the movie is disgusting. You know, it's like one disgusting thing after another and just amazing dialogue. That whole. You know, that whole... What was it? Pig shit. Bull shit. And seeing them walk around in their tighty-whities. Oh, and then going into the car wash. God, it was insane.
Absolutely insane. Check out that episode. That was Greg Bench as the guest. I don't know the number. Thanks, Greg. You've served us for life. Yes. Do a search on Greasy Strangler and listen to that episode. But that's it for me as far as honorable mentions. DVDinfatuation.com still posting reviews. As a matter of fact, another one posted today, and I think I am now three away. From number 3000. I think it was 2997 that posted today.
So I'm closing in on 3000, probably probably mid May. I'll get there at DVD infatuation on Twitter. I'm on the Facebook Land of the Creeps group. Definitely join that if you have not yet. I know a lot of people have. We even had some new members join in, which is awesome. I'd like to see that every time Pearl posts, let's welcome our newest member. It's always sort of gratifying that there are more people joining the community, and that's great.
So definitely join the Facebook group if you have not yet. and other podcasts, of course, the DVD Infatuation podcast. We will have an episode coming out soon. I'm still counting down my favorite films and have a guest on to discuss each one with me. We have a couple already recorded. We have some more that we're going to be recording soon. And Bill, yeah, I'll get together with you to talk about MASH. Absolutely. Talk to Jay and just pick a weekend or a weeknight or whatever. Absolutely.
And we're also the weekly watch list with Jay and Mac and myself. We just recorded an episode of that. which was a lot of fun. Always have a good time getting together with those guys and talking movies. They aren't long. They go from like an hour to an hour and a half. An hour and a half is the longest. I think they're usually like an hour, 10, hour, 15 at the longest. Sometimes they're under an hour.
So definitely worth checking those out. And, of course, Jay of the Dead's new horror movies. Well, no, what is he? I can never remember. Dead Serious was HMP. The Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, I think, is what he uses for considering the cinema. Is it the baboon? yeah the enraged baboon of horror podcast I can't remember what the But anyway, definitely check out Jay the Dead's new horror movies. So many great hosts over there, and we have such a good time when we all...
I don't know that we've all gotten together yet. There's never been an episode with all of us together, but we've had some. Our review of Alien Romulus was pretty well populated. What was the most recent one, Greg? There was another one that was like seven of us there.
Yeah, I can't even remember now. I can't either. It's going to be a year and a half for a post, so we'll forget about this completely. But anyway, definitely check that out. It's it's it's great. And that's Jay of the Dead's new horror movies.
And thanks for joining us here. You know, as you talk about 1993, you know, I said at the beginning, I didn't think I was missing much. Not a great year. But you talk the year out, you start throwing some movies out there and you realize, yeah, I was right.
We'll go check out that podcast, the gold standard of horror movie podcasts. Absolutely. I love it. All right. So Bill, you take it away, buddy. What you got for honorable mentions and then your outros. All right. Ones that haven't been mentioned. I went through my. Letterboxd to see what Night Terror with Robert Englund playing the Marquis de Sade. And William Finley's in there. Yeah, really good. It's not bad. Not bad. Necromacon.
That one's on Tubi, I believe. It's okay. It's all right. I think someone brought it. Was it Victoria who brought that? Did she bring up the Chromicon? She's the one that told me to watch it. I think she brought it up maybe in her honorable mentions. I don't know if it was on her list. The Dark. A Canadian one with Stephen McHaddy about something going on, a creature that they're all looking for. That one's not bad. It's widely available on YouTube.
I watched one called Skeeter. You can only imagine how good that is. Oh. God, another 95 minutes. I will never get back. Amityville, a new generation. Yeah. Actually, it was not as bad as I thought it would be. It wasn't. so far removed from it didn't get into like amityville karen or amityville or would it make your top 15 amityville films um because aren't there like 38 of them or something i think you know what it might Make it after you know the initial
a set of ones that were trying to stay somewhat faithful to the storyline, this has no relevance. That's the one series that makes me wish they would go back to the shark movies again. See, the problem is that with the Amityville films, you can't copyright the name of a town. And so anybody can put Amityville on anything and make a loose affiliation about a spell. If I remember, this one was about somebody...
buys a mirror off the side of the road from a homeless man, and then it causes a lot of problems. Well, I can see how that could tie in with the Amityville R. Sure. Sure. They're both involving a house. Yes. And I think there was a mirror in that first film. Oh, well. Now you're making a real stretch, Dave. Yeah. I'm not saying it's the same mirror. Okay. I watched one called Chill Factor. Not in the last while, but I have in the last couple of years. Now, here's one I almost put at five.
And the reason I didn't was because I didn't think it quite had enough horror, but I'm pretty sure you guys have probably seen it. Ed and his dead mother with Steve Buscemi. And what happens in that one is Steve Buscemi's mom dies. And he's really heartbroken from a year previously she's passed on. And he kind of wishes that she'd come back. And it gets arranged where she can become an animated body back in the house.
but it doesn't go quite as smooth as Steve Buscemi thought it would be. So it was more comedy than the horror, but the concept is there. It's kind of like the comedy version of Day for Night. What was the one that Bob Clark Oh, death. Why have it as death dream? Yeah, death. With the son from Vietnam. Yeah, where he comes back from Vietnam. Yeah, I think that's the one, yeah. Yeah, same kind of, but it's actually not bad.
Seriously, so if anybody looking for one that's a little off the wall, if you liked Parent, Oh, yeah, the Randy Quaid one. Yeah, this is your speed. Okay. I have one here called Carnasaur, of course, the classic of the genre. The one I for sure thought Greg was going to say is Trauma. I thought so too. I was going to say it, but you already took it away, so that's fine. Italian director.
That's my honorable mention, Bill. That's fine. I'm going to sit back and let Bill name every movie that's made in 93, and I'll sit back here and chill. And see what's left. Oh, there was one I watched on F'dUpMovies.com. It's not faces of death. It's traces of death. And it's in the same style, but... Faces of Death has some scenes that were acted in. or like there's some things with like autopsies and things and morgues and you know that kind of stuff
But it shows, Dave would be very familiar with the Pennsylvania senator that shot himself in the head. Oh, the Philadelphia councilman, I think it was. Or Bud Dwyer. Bud Dwyer. But it's funny though, because it's from, I don't know, I'm going to say late 70s. And they show it and the camera literally. shows the shot to the head and the blood oozing out. That was shown live on what would be Channel 6 News, which is the ABC affiliate here in Philadelphia.
They got in a ton of trouble. It was the cameraman's first day. and i guess he didn't know to cut i guess he didn't know what and they were showing that live and you were literally seeing the remnants of the blood pump out of the head just flowing out just flowing out and I know a lot of people here it's not going to be their thing and I can totally understand because to me
The news is much scarier than any films. Yeah, real life, real life death affects me much more than anything I'll see in a movie. You know, and it just like I can't watch it. But I can't. I got to look away. you see I can I've seen it so many times I guess you'd call me desensitized the other scene that it has is I don't know if it's in uh faces of death but i've seen it on the internet before is that guy that goes to the south african uh nature preserve with the lion to get a better camera
And he goes out of his car to get close to the lions to take a picture. And he literally gets mauled to death in front of his family. Oh, wow. And so you see that. And I mean, call me sick. I can sit and watch that only because it's. Human nature. I like seeing human nature in certain situations. I mean, it shows a lot of things like mafia deaths and people who committed suicide and that kind of stuff. Anyways, it took it down a pretty morbid path. The Grey Knight.
Now, The Grey Knight is a film, Dave. I wondered if you'd seen it because it's almost a Western horror. No. It's set in the 1880s. Modern times, but it's about a civil war unit where the bodies become reanimated. And so the northern troops are going through and and they're fighting these things and they can't kill them. And they're obviously zombies.
Wow. And so it's not a bad film to find. I forget what it is. It was called something else. But if you look into IMDb, it's called The Grey Knight. And the last one. Oh, I took this one for the team. it was one i hadn't seen it and it's called gorotica and let's just say gorotica involves Necrophilia.
And so, yeah, I'll be the one person in the whole listenership that has seen this film. And you may be the lone person who will ever see that film. Maybe, no, maybe, Raul. I mean, you see Penis. Maybe...
Michael Stanislavski's has because he watches an eclectic amount maybe there's somebody out there maybe Don and Ellie just because he's seen so many films but yeah Gerotica is the best thing about it is it's only an hour but that's it I'm sure I could have found there was one I was going to watch on Tubi called Things And it's not the Canadian really bad one from the 80s. Oh, see, that's what I was thinking. Yeah, no, it's another one called...
Anyways, that's it. And I really enjoyed this episode. It's always good to sit and shoot the shit over a certain year and you get to find diamonds in the rough. And I found... Greg's number one just by digging. So I did that. I've done a few different episodes with other podcasts that are in the process of being released. So when I get a hold of it in the link, I'll put it in the room. And everybody, I would love you to check out music, movies, sports and stuff. It's on his...
I just submitted the RSS into probably seven or eight new podcatchers today. So it should be available anywhere you want to leave a good review, get a follow and people let's enjoy ourselves. Let's finally get some fucking warm weather. Let's be good people. And let's keep horror alive. Elbows up, everybody. Nice. All right, Pearl, what you got, love, for your honorable mentions and outros?
well one of my honorable mentions is called a family torn apart where you got like a couple who's viciously murdered in their backyard and the only three that they can point the fingers at is their adopted children
The oldest one being that he already has a history of violence and came out of the psychiatric. It becomes very brutal movie and I say this is one mostly I would recommend to the ladies of LOTC that like their horror and crime and thriller And no doubt some revenge is taken out on some men. Probably. And my other one is kind of a horror comedy where it's called Love Bite.
A 300-year-old vampire tries to rehumanize himself after falling in love with a beautiful mortal. That's not the Leslie Nielsen one. No, it's not. Okay. No, that's Dracula. Is that Dracula Dead and Loving It? Yeah. Yeah, this one has Adam Ant and Kimberly Foster. Adam Ant? Does he have on his dancing shoes? He might. Yeah. He's desperate but not serious. That's right. And as for me, you guys know where to find me on the main LTC group page and anywhere Gregor Mortis is at.
Now I turn it to him as he will mention something he introduced me to. I was going to say, Greg, what's left? I don't know. You took everything, Bill. I don't know. I found a couple. I always hate going last because Bill's going to name 35 movies out and there's 37 made, so I get loose. Welcome to my weekends, Greg. No, we got just a couple here. and not that I would necessarily recommend, but one of them was called Killing Car. It's a six, six and a half for me, but yeah.
uh daughter of darkness which is a asian film that one i gave a six and a half as well not Super great, but still, you know, go ahead and check it out. The one Pearl's mentioning, and this is an eight and a five for me all day long, and that's Jamie Lee Curtis and Mother's Boys. I absolutely love this movie. Oh, I did not realize that was this year. I should have checked that out, too. Damn it. I have that. I got that recently. I love that movie, man. Absolutely love it.
And you see a lot of Jamie Lee in that one. Forget trading places. This is where you go. Oh, this is the trading places, Jamie Lee. Yeah, this is the way beyond trading places, Jamie Lee. Was this pre-Schwarzenegger, Dan? I don't even know. I don't know when True Lies came out. But it's a really good film. Trust me. Just watch the movie. It's great. Right, Pearl? Yeah.
uh here's another one and this one actually got mentioned but i'll mention it too because it's eight five for me and it's the temp i actually really enjoyed that movie uh even though did it hit horror i think some elements of it
And I'm going to go out one more because all mine have already been mentioned. This one hasn't been mentioned and probably shouldn't be mentioned. I took one for the team in this one. Bill, for you, you probably watched this one. If not, it's definitely high on your list, I'm sure. But it's Angel Eyes. Oh, God. What's his name? Not Milio. I got Milio Estevez. What's... Oh, Bud Flowers? No. Milio Estevez. No.
Erica Strada. Erica Strada. Erica Strada. I have not seen this. Is this like a sex cheese horror? That's all it is. An overly gory film? well it's it's a it's got some murder in it and some different things you got uh erica strada you also got monique gabriella and i don't know who the other girl was but there is a ton of nudity in it but it's basically the story of
uh this husband or this father who's got a new girlfriend and and his stepdaughter who has uh something has happened to her mother so she comes to live with him even though he doesn't even really know her anymore because this woman's a freaking grown-ass chick dude but she comes in saying daddy Daddy! And there might be some weird motives here, but...
Very attractive women, I'll give them that. You hear a lot of daddy. Yeah, there's a lot of daddies going on and there's some daddy issues in this movie. But Angel Eyes, Gary Graver, Gary Graver directed this movie. I'll give it two seconds of fame there just for the...
The beauty of it. That name sounds familiar. I've got to look this guy up. I think I might have seen something else he directed. If it's the right guy I'm thinking. I'm sorry if you did. I just looked at the poster. You can see her popping out just in the poster. Everybody go look at the poster for Angel Eyes. John Philip Law is in that too. Yes.
Okay, so yes, I'm getting an idea of what we're looking at here. I wonder if Gary Graver, I don't think he's the one who did the, what was it, the vampire one? Why do I always do this? I can't think of the title and I can't think of the actress I'm trying to think of. Screw it, I'm looking up. I was looking at it. You know who else is in this film? It's Robert Quarry. Mr. Count Yorga. Count Yorga, yes.
Yeah, you can get a platinum blonde scandal, 15 minutes, yeah, penthouse. You can get an idea of who he is as a director. Moby Dick is a cinematographer. Emphasis on the second word? Yeah, maybe. With the fact that there was a lot of... Brawlers in the swimming pool, around the swimming pool. But how was the story? Was it worth it? I'm going to be honest. The acting is what hurts this movie. The premise of the movie is not bad.
Basically, I'll just say it like it. Eric Estrada is kind of booky, right? and he's loaned out money to different people, and they're starting to have to collect. His boss is coming down on him like, dude, you need to start collecting all your money. Well, the daddy of the girl. Had borrowed some money to do some apartments or something, some kind of condos or something. And he hasn't paid them back, so he needs to pay them back.
and then there's some heavy stuff going on some you know if you don't i'll break your leg i'll whatever So then you have some murder going on too with an individual that I won't say who's murdering. So there's all these weird twists. It's not that the movie's that bad as a story. The problem is the acting is that bad. It's just really bad. I'm looking this up here. I looked up Gary Graver. I said it sounded familiar.
And I'm looking at some of the more recent titles as director, Desirable Liaisons, Tales of a Voyeur. a lewd winxy report, masseuse three, bikini traffic school, the escort, sexual roulette, a fake spot, lust and desire. So with that said, My official story, if my wife asks, I have seen none of Gary Graver's movies. I have officially seen one. There's one in some random year, 1991. He's got a film called Breathless, Double Penetration 4, whatever. But then he's got one called Evil Spirit.
So he obviously mixes it up. He mixes it up alright. He has 147 titles. Tail Taggers 122. Maverdick. 1991, I think he did like 14 films, including the erotic adventures of Annie Fanny. Just Franco looks at this guy and goes, damn, damn. So I married a lesbian. Brides the pink lady. Good lord. Oral majority 10. And every one of my horror movies. If you didn't see number 8, can you keep up? No, I think this is a direct sequel to number 6.
It's like the Howling series. So there is my movie. I'm telling you, don't watch Angel Eyes. But there is a ton of nudity in it. Oh, and this was a 93 film. Shit, I wish I could have tracked it down. The Joy Fuck Club. No, no. In 92, I wanted to see Cape Rear. As we're closing out. This has become mandatory. The Dragon Lady 4, Tales from the Bed.
Oh, this will be known as the Gary Graver rabbit hole. Yes, if we haven't gotten anything out of this episode tonight, we know to look up Gary Graver. This guy makes Fred Olin Ray look like Spielberg. Right. Well, Bill saw the poster, Dave saw the poster, so they will be checking this movie out. So that's it. Thank you for tuning in. We appreciate each and every one of you. I hope that you will have a wonderful, wonderful two weeks.
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Hello, Pearl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait to get my list out, man. I'll change mine up. sure this was a this was a bit of a tough year i'm not sure that any of my top five will make a top 10 of the 90s i guarantee well yeah I'm pretty sure that mine's not either. I'll be honest. All right. Little cod head.
That's what I say. Oh, I better not say cod head in front of you. You probably hear enough about cod fish and stuff. No, that's okay. No problem. I got to hear it. Pearl didn't see it. So let her know what was the song that your customer sent to you.
oh my god i i they like she was with her husband and her husband was just talking uh so he comes up and he goes can we have two pieces of um it was sockeye salmon which is wild caught salmon and i go yeah sure which two are you looking at because we let him you know pick the pieces and he goes i have these two right down front and i go you got it and she goes Thank you, thank you, thank you. We love you, we love you. So I'm like... So I wrap them up.
And I hand him the hand. And he goes, thank you. And she goes, thank you. We love you. We love you. And you're like, is there anything else I can get you today? No, no, we're good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We love you. We love you. We love you. Like really loud. The guy's in the meat department. The one guy comes walking behind me. He's like, we love you, Dan. He's joking around with me.
And the other guy's like, do you know them? I go, no, I have never seen them before in my life. That's crazy. Wow. There he is. What's up, Bill Bill? I didn't realize it was 6.30. I'm like, oh, shit. I still got to piss, make a drink, and get my book in about three minutes. All right. I was actually.
finish I didn't even finish up the movie it's not gonna make my list anyway but I was finishing up a movie and I still got like 25 minutes left and I was like oh shit it's 6 30 already I thought I was gonna squeeze this movie in but Yeah, yes, it's two hours and it is way too long for what they're doing. It's not terrible.
It's not terrible. I literally finalized my list 15 minutes ago. Same here. I finalized mine last night with the intention that, hey, maybe a few other things will make it and nothing else. Well, that's a thing. The way I see it is there's probably two that overlap and then the rest Up to your taste. I would think that's probably true.
Okay. All right. Go sports. Go Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp. Hey, he loves his brother, and his brother Sterling just made the Hall of Fame one of the most under-seeded packers. underrated Packer receivers of all time. Yeah, and he's packing it too with this lawsuit coming at him. Oh! Oh, is he? I have no idea. Oh, you know nothing about what's going on with Shannon Sharp.
uh i saw something but generally the off the field stuff i don't pay attention to yeah he's got a it was a 19 year old at the time and she ended up being 21 but there was some rape allegations and some different things but they got they got video they got audio him choking her and wanting to choke her and he offered it was all consensual That's what he said. So he's come out trying to be clear. Stephen A. Smith said, I'm keeping neutral. And it was basically...
Uh, the lawyers of Shannon Sharp have now come out and said he's already offered 10 million for her to shut her mouth and she didn't take it. So they're asking for 50 million. You know what? If she's offered 10, she'll at least get 20 by the judge. Well, if you're offering somebody 10 million to keep your mouth shut, you've done something. You've done something that's going to probably get you tired. Unless you're really rich and you just want it to go away.
That's a possibility, but $10 million for Shannon Sharp is almost as ridiculous as her thinking $50 million won't break. Well, here's the thing. He was just bragging two days ago. He was fixing to sign a $100 million deal. He was going to start making $100 million. on this big mega deal that he signed. And the day later she dropped, boom, this bombshell. Well, that's where he, that was his first mistake. Yeah. So yeah, you're fucked. You back Dave. Dave must have fallen in.
Maybe he had to take a shoo-shoo. Oh, did he have to do a number two? I don't know. Or did he fall in? Maybe Mrs. Becker made him some dinner. I don't know. Or maybe fire in the sky. Ain't nobody taking no shit. I wanted to come in with that line from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest when they're all sitting in the dark.
And the nurses out there when they're having the party. Yeah. You know, Scatman Crothers character. And like she's the woman's out there. Mr. Tabor. Mr. Tabor. And Jack Neal's like, where the fuck is he? And then. Someone goes probably somewhere jerking off in the sky. No one jerking off nowhere. Motherfucker. Love it. It's like.
Hey, what the hell are you doing there? Same thing you're doing, hiding. I need to watch that again. It's been a little minute for me, man. Oh, it's a great movie. It is an awesome movie. All right. I'm calling it right now. We have to do a Gary Graver. Yes, I know. I'm looking here. Three men and a hooker. The silence of the buns.
You know both of you are going to have to clear out your history. Your wives are going to get your history and go, what in the hell are y'all looking at? It's research. There's one called Flesh and Boner. The only reason I even chose this movie, I'll be honest, was I was like, okay, it's a horror movie, and it even said a horror, and it had Eric Estrada, and I'm like, oh, God, I'm going to go for it, right?
And the poster didn't look bad either. God, within like the first five minutes of it, I looked at Pearl and I'm thinking, oh. shit i've done kind of got a flick in here she walks in and greg's watching big tits just exactly she's watching right beside me but i'm gonna be honest there's like so many there's no penetration scenes in this at all But it's funny, like I went up and down and like, you know, I hear there's very little penetration and double penetration for this.
the critics the critics were all over him for that the funny thing in this movie is is like the the dad and the girlfriend is literally they'll be like a scene just they're in mad passionate fucking scene right like they're having sex and they look like they're enjoying the shit out of it. five ten minutes of it right the very next scene she's yelling at a screener
Bye, bye, bye. And then the next scene, they're having sex again, having a great time. I'm like, what the fuck, dude? She's ready to kill him. They got nothing to do with him. But next thing he's in bed and they're having sex and she's loving him to death. So I was like, I don't, but it's funny though. Cause I was going up and down and he's obviously got a film.
you know, taste to him, you know, like he's got a foot in the real world because, you know, he'll do something about, you know, Annie, Miss Fanny or whatever. But then in 1993, he did a documentary about working with Orson Welles. Yeah, I saw that. Peter Bogdanovich, Peter Jason, Stacey Keats. Wow. You know, Frank Marshall, Susan Strasburg, you know.
But then you go back to, you know, handjob university or whatever. And I'm pretty sure he asked, um, like Dennis Hopper and all those guys, have you seen my, my 1995 film wet and slippery? Would you like to do some overdubbing? Oh, boy, gosh. Well, I'm hungry. I got to cover one of these in music, movie, sports and stuff. Yeah, you got to look this guy up.
Yeah, do your research, Bill. But this guy is almost as prolific as you look at him, like Roger Corman. Now, he was born in 1938. He moved to Hollywood at age 20. and studied with, like, it says Jeff Corey, Lee J. Cobb, and Lucille Ball. Lee J. Cobb, I'm surprised he didn't get into an extra. Lee J. Cobb, I'm telling you, yeah. So maybe his movie Finding Miss Ball is not about...
It's not a sex film. Maybe that's his ode to Lucille Ball. But Lee J. Cobb would be, and he'd be like the... the sheriff trying to clean up the town yeah well he was in like on the waterfront and then the 12 angry man and he was in all this stuff so I don't see him getting into a Gary Graver film. I can't see him as the fluffer. I just can't see him.
Oh, boy. All right, boys. We're going to go get something to eat, man. All right. Yep. Everyone have a good night, and I will talk with you all soon. And have a great time with Justin. I'll be looking out for videos and pictures and such. Alrighty, ladies and gentlemen. Have a good one. Good night. Bye-bye.