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TC presents Black Glove Mysteries with Ian Urza and Greg Amortis. Land of the Creeps presents Black Glove Mysteries. This is episode 420, double double 58, if you're keeping count. And we're super excited. I'm your host, Greg Amortis, along with Ian Erzo. What's going on, Ian? Wow, 58. Tim Duncan used to have about 58 doubles every season. Takes me back there. That's the first thing I thought of. A little San Antonio Spur talk up on here. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I enjoyed both of these. I'm always happy whenever I can do a first-time watch. So the French sex murders, that was fun. My Dear Killer, I hadn't seen in a number of years, and that one held up.
pretty well so yeah this this is going to be fun to talk about i'm liking going through these sets just because there's a there's a combo of movies i haven't seen before some of them i hadn't even really heard before we did the first set and then some i hadn't seen in quite a while and they're all different
None of them really feel like the same film, so they're a good variety. I totally agree. We are into our, what is this, the third part, which is Forgotten Jialy. We're doing volume two, so we'll end up. Finishing off this series for now until we get Volume 3, Volume 4, etc., and we'll go back to them. These are a little bit pricey. I've already picked up Volume 3, but I know Ian hasn't had a chance yet. I'm probably going to pick it up soon, though. That'll be...
That'll be coming sooner rather than later, Volume 3, for sure. So stay tuned for that. But we are talking tonight that both films actually did come from 1972, too, which was surprising. But they are The French Sex Murders and My Dear Killer are the movies we're going to be watching.
reviewing tonight uh so hopefully you had a chance to check them out ahead of time if not that's fine we'll go kind of the way we do it a little might be a slight spoiler here or there but we try to keep it pretty much spoiler free but i mean these are You know, 1972 films. It's hard not to spoil a little bit. But super excited to do this. I was going to pull up my letterbox. And letterbox is down. I have never seen letterbox down.
But they're literally doing a server issue right now. So it's weird. They literally have Robert De Niro's from Raging Bull. It's got the image of... Robert De Niro from Raging Bull saying, we've got server issues and we'll be back up whenever. I've never seen Letterboxd down. It was weird. It's been down maybe once or twice when I've tried to use it before, but it's not very often.
So I don't even know where I rated these. This is going to be interesting, but I'm super excited. Once again, French sex murders and also my dear killer. If you do. If you do not own these volumes, which are called the Forgotten Jolly from Vinegar Syndrome, man, pick these things up. We're on the ending of our volume two. So anyway, so let's go ahead and get into it, man. I'm ready. We're going to start. I think we'll go with the French sex murders.
Directed by Ferdinando Merighi. And let's go to a trailer. Buonasera, prego, accomodatevi. Le ragazze sono tutte di là e vi stanno aspettando. Devi essere mia. Solo mia. Ecco, ispettore, l'abbiamo trovata come l'avete vista poco fa. Mr. Elf, are you going to bring it to the morgue? Of course, Inspector. You are you, I'm going to be volute. It's only because of your false positions that I find here. I'll go back to the tomb and I'll kill you all! I'm
Why do you have to drink? She will not come. I've never been convinced of her fault. And even of all your deposits. Antoine Gotvales promised to return from the island. You will die all the responsible responsible for your condemnation. And you? Don't worry, you're on the list. It's a really interesting case, without precedents, for what I know. That's why I wrote it. I've been fascinated. And then, Ian, take it away for the plot.
Okay, so as usual, this is taken from Troy Howard's So Deadly, So Perverse. Both of these will be volume one in this case because they're 1972. A prostitute is brutally murdered and Antoine is accused when Antoine is killed in a freak accident. The case would appear to have resolved itself. However, similar murders begin to take place, and it is up to Inspector Fontaine to get to the bottom of it, or Humphrey Bogart.
That's right. Humphrey Bogart. I'm telling you, dude. Golly. Inspector. You'll find out. Inspector Fontaine, played by Robert Satchi. And it was weird, because I texted you, Ian, after watching the movie, and I was like, man, this guy looks so much like Humphrey.
bogart and he is smoking a cigarette he's got the talk i'm like or at least the i was watching the italian version and i was like well i don't know what or the dub version and i was like i don't know what he really talks like but in here it sounded like it so i text dave to dr shock and i was like dave man
and i sent an image right i took a little bit of the video and sent it to him on the phone and he's like curious yeah he's like oh my god i can't remember exact words was like that is so weird and he starts telling me about this guy he said you got to watch this movie from the 1980s And it's got this guy. He was a Humphrey Bogart lookalike.
And blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I sat and I sent him the description of the movie. He looked, he said, that's him. He said, that's him. So it's so odd. It was like literally the guy he was telling me to look up. So anyways, he is, he was an actual.
Humphrey Bogart impersonator so he got a lot of his fame from Robert Robert Saatchi yes Robert Saatchi yes yeah so he got his notoriety from being kind of a a knockoff of Humphrey Bogart and it worked for him I mean he made a career out of it for a while uh but he does you'll see it in this movie listeners like dude you he channels Humphrey Bogart like none other uh even with uh I was waiting for him to go I'm looking at you sweetheart
But I like this movie, dude. I really enjoyed this one. I thought it was fun, intriguing. I really liked him as the inspector. I thought, you know, his mannerisms, because Dave was telling me, he's like, dude, he's even got the way that Humphrey Bogart... smokes the cigarette down like he had it down to the tee the way he holds it and and you know puffs on it stuff it was weird but he's not the only one in here we got a large cast in this one ian of of
who's who right yeah um and just just to just to pivot back to that for a sec in the uk this was uh released as the bogeyman and the french murderers Hey, why not, right? They were trying to capitalize off of that. Why not? I mean, who wouldn't want it to be like it? It's also called Casa de Apatemento. There you go. Well, yeah, you got in this movie, you know, Anita Eckberg.
is in this movie as Madame Colette, the Madame of the Brothel. Roselba Deary as Marianne, who's like a nightclub owner of sorts, I think. Then you've got Barbara Boucher in a small part. Francine, one of the women at the brothel. Renato Romano, always playing shifty characters, no exception here, playing Mr. Randall, probably named that as an ode to Dick Randall, who helped produce this movie. We saw him in The Fifth Court, I believe, among other things.
Mike Monte is an actor who's in a ton of Bruno Mattei movies. He plays a detective in this with sort of long hair and a mustache, small part. And it makes sense because Bruno Mattei did the editing for this movie. Ah, there you go. before he was a director so this is probably maybe when they first met actually um around the same time he did the editing for uh jess franco's dracula as well okay interesting
And Bruno Nicolai doing the music and he recycles a ton of music from all the colors of the dark. And you hear it. And I think that's why I really enjoyed the soundtrack so much. I was like. This is a damn good soundtrack, and that's why, because it was a lot of... There were a couple people I wanted to single out here, too. So Peter Martell, for the first 30 minutes of this movie, is really going for it as Anton. Yes.
When he exits the movie, it loses a bit of steam, but then it gains it back with Howard Vernon as Professor Voldemort in his performance. His performance is great. Just some of his expressions. You can tell he's wearing eyeliner. It's kind of a... bizarre character where it shifts from this guy trying to prove his innocence to this mad scientist movie for a little bit it does have a sort of hint of joe damato and i i gotta admit i didn't
I watched this twice. I didn't necessarily love it the first time I watched it. The second time I watched it with commentary on... with Cat Ellinger and Sam Deegan, their commentary, I actually liked it a little bit more. Not just because of the commentary, but I found myself enjoying the movie more as well because the threads were easier to put together. I thought the first time I watched it...
After a certain character exits after about 30 minutes, which it's kind of obvious which one I'm talking about, maybe it kind of struggled to find its footing again. Then it kind of does. The big flaw here is that they did not have the budget. to they had the budget to do some scenes in paris it looks like but not a lot of them like i think basically the whole second half of the film you could tell is probably not taking place in paris
And then the effects in this movie are bad. It's got to be honest. They are not good. And it's unfortunate because you've got Carlo Rambaldi, who did the effects for movies like E.T. and Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
mind or not and that just proves to you they didn't have much of a budget because his effects are not particularly good they're at least a little better than the ones in trauma which we covered a couple episodes ago but they're uh they're they're pretty subpar for the most part
yeah one of the weird things that i kept noticing was when they would do these kills they would do almost like a kaleidoscope or uh whatever like they would show the kill happen and it would be in red and then they would show it again and it'd be in blue and then they show it again
and being purple, and it would just do these colors back and forth. I was like, what are they doing? Yeah, it's almost like in sports where they replay like a dunk, like a dunk in basketball from different angles, but not as good. No, and it was bad. that they changed colors each time it was just odd i couldn't figure out unless it's because of the character you know maybe it's the whole mad scientist type you know character maybe they're trying to
who knows? I don't, well, I will say this. One thing I enjoyed is we've had, and this is not a spoiler, um, really at all to, to the killer is, uh, um, I like that at the, you know, the, the explanation or the motivation or whatever. doesn't have anything to do with an inheritance or past trauma. It's actually something a little bit different than what we've come to see in this film. It's maybe the first time this specific motivation has been used.
True. I mean, yeah, and I enjoyed it. And this definitely plays as a... somewhat of a shallow I mean I never saw the J&B bottle I never saw certain aspects but I mean the movie definitely has a few red herons thrown at you I think one thing like was shocking and this is going to be a minor to possibly a
or I hope not but if it is apologize but I gotta say it is the the lack of Barbara Boucher in the movie like it was I was expecting seeing her name build and then seeing her in the movie it just kind of I was like well Darn. This is not the only time she's only played a small role in one of these. I think Black Belly of the Tarantula, where she's really only in it at the beginning. True. But I did like resolving Neri. I thought she's strong. I mean, we've seen her in a month.
and we've seen her in other things that, you know, I did like her character. And I thought that all the characters honestly were plausible in this movie. I was like not taken back by anybody. And you're right. Some of the kills are weak in this one for sure. The plot itself, there is a one, at least one good kill and that's a head sever that just really was like a, one of them. Oh, the kills themselves aren't really that bad. I'm just saying the effects.
aren't good like you get two different decapitations one of which is better than the other yeah but still they're you know i just think the effects on the severed heads look pretty bad it's like it's almost a joke when you see it you're like it it doesn't completely undermine what happened like how the how good the kill was but it's it's just not as good as you'd
You would think there are slasher movies from the 80s that weren't done by Tom Savini and just your average person that have better effects than some of this, which, again, you have Carlo Rambaldi, so it's not his fault. It's just whatever he was given to work with. I mean, there's another...
scene where you see like uh what is it like that the cow's eye or whatever that the the professor's working on yes that's actually a decent effect probably one of the better ones but it is but it's like they're splitting this eye and i kept telling pearl like there was like it's black Ooh, I was thinking, why would there be like food coloring stuff coming out of the eye? Would it be turned black liquid? I don't know. Maybe it would be. I don't know.
Not sure. Yeah, I just found it odd. I was just looking at it like, you can tell that they've got probably food coloring or something in there, and then it's bleeding out. But that's all right. I mean, I had fun with it, though. I will say, you're right. I mean, the head severing, once it's there, you're like, holy cow.
that looks like a paper mache head, but whatever. You do have pretty women in it and you do have some good looking actors in it. And this is a Dick Randall produced movie. So, you know, you do get those moments. If you don't know anything about Dick Randall, look him up. He was kind of in the realm of...
A little bit harder than, uh, Russ Meyer for sure, because Russ Meyer kept his more, even though it was exploitated, you never really had a hardcore scenes. And I know Dick Randall produced a lot of hardcore scene, uh, hardcore. This doesn't this is a little bit more tame, though, than you might think. Like, it's not that exploitative. There's one more. There's like one kind of more exploitative moment with a woman later on. I think it's Tina where they like.
really show her off quite a bit, Piera Viotti. But most of the time, there's not a whole lot of nudity up until that point. There's one sex scene. I gotta say I was laughing at one. I don't think it was the one with Tina. I think it was the one with, um, Oh, what's her name? The maid and her lover. That guy was doing titty sucking like crazy. I was just laughing. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah, it was that out of Pometty. Yeah, they were going at it for sure.
There is a scene. This is the one that has the scene on the stair casing that I text you and I said, man, is that for, I think I text you that. I know I've text Dave, but I. It had to be the same stairs from John Wick 4. Oh, I couldn't find. Hold on a second. Let me. I remember looking it up. I couldn't find if it was the same one or not. They were both shot in parallel.
I'm just trying to remember the name of the stairs. I couldn't find it for this movie, but I found it for John Wick. Sacre Coir in Paris. I wish Bill was here because he could pronounce that better than I can. Sacre Coir.
maybe yeah that sound yeah and i literally text troy howarth i was like troy i was like in the french sex murders there's a stair casing and it looks very similar to the staircase in john wick for can you confirm and he's like i've never seen john wick for sorry so i can't so i was like darn it that's funny you would think yeah
Troy Howard's probably the only person who has seen the French sex murders, but not John. John. I thought it's funny. That's funny. But he did respond with a sorry. And I appreciate him even. You know what, though? I think it is the same stairs. I could.
wrong like there might be there might be many different pairs of stairs that are like that in Paris but it almost looks it almost looks too distinctive to not be yeah that's what Pearl was talking about because if you've seen John Wick 4 you know where I'm talking about there's like these stairs that are like 300 steps. It takes like John Wick, it seems like three hours to fall down these damn things. And they're very distinctive with the lamp posting and the black railing.
and the different things and this just looks identical uh so if anybody can verify that 100 i've done research on it too and could not get 100 nailed down on it uh but i would really just out of curiosity it has nothing to do to the movie but for me It's just a curiosity. I also couldn't tell, did they actually film that chase scene on the Eiffel Tower or was it just they shot, you know, basically your, you know, your insert footage of the Eiffel Tower and then they shot the chase somewhere.
else i actually thought maybe they did do it on the tower i don't know it looks like they did it on the tower but then again i don't know if they could have got permission back in 1972 to do that or maybe they did it grill affair but uh it does look
to me like they were on it but i think you can film on the stairs and stuff most of the time though like interiors of the eiffel tower film somewhere else yeah but yeah and i don't even know like look i've not i've never been to paris of the eiffel tower
So I don't know if there's really places you can go into. But I'm just thinking about A View to a Kill where there's that chase scene on the Eiffel Tower in that movie. But the interior where, you know, Mayday, Grace Jones shoots that guy with the fish hook or whatever. That's all shot. at Pinewood or something, but the chase scene itself is on the Eiffel Tower. Nice. But what did you think of the reveal of the movie, like once we found who the killer was? Satisfied? Plausible?
I mean, it was like I said, I like the motivation because I found it was kind of unique and I didn't really see it coming. I mean, I think the person who it ends up being is not like it's not one of those things where you don't suspect that person.
but at the same time i wasn't i wasn't entirely sure who it would end up being right same and but once it happened i'm like okay i'm okay with this this actually works for the story i'm good with it and So I think they did that well, and I think they hid it well enough.
especially the way this movie's rolling. And I think it's paced well. It's only 88 minutes long. It's not a super long movie. And it don't play long, in my opinion. It plays at a good pace for me. So I thought it looks great. Do you have anything on dubbing or anything? on this one. The only one I have for this one that I recognize for sure was in the English dub, Edward Mannix is dubbing Saki as Inspector Fontaine. Okay.
Which makes sense. That voice fits pretty well. I mean, he's the same guy who dubbed Jack Headley in the New York Ripper. Yeah, for sure. And I do love Inspector Fontaine, Robert Saatchi, man. I just really just... I don't know, man. Maybe it's because I'm a big, you know, like Casablanca and I like Humphrey Bogart. Maybe it's because of that. I was intrigued every time he was on screen. Maybe more because of just curiosity. Like, is he going to say the line? Is he going to say it?
you know is he going to give us that you know that paris quote is he going to give us the here's looking at you sweetheart and or is he going to do it maybe that's why too i don't know that's the thing is it's fun to see him kind of enter this world right there
be certain points where he'll just stop at the nightclub or be like oh uh oh what's his name um randall i have to talk to you come to my office at four o'clock you know that kind of stuff he's there's there are fun moments where he'll just insert himself
into the narrative and he's, you can tell he's trying to solve this, but at the same time you have this whole other story going on with this mad scientist. Like I said, it's, it is kind of bizarre how much it shifts between each part and, and we should.
know like the giallo movies don't always have a detective as the main character it's not very often it's usually some other person who's doing the investigating right so right this one kind of comes close i wouldn't necessarily say he's the i think it's between him and
and Howard Vernon as Professor Voldemort. But then you have, you know, the first 30 minutes or so, it's actually Antoine who's the main character. So it just kind of shifts around to one of those three for the majority of the film. And like I said, I think that might be wide.
like it as much the first time because it just felt a little disjointed but the second time i did like it more and i should go back to kind of one of my own rules when we first started the show was sometimes these movies are better on a second viewing i didn't really even consider that after the first time so
true yep uh decent body count in this one though we have a total of uh 10 deaths and and not necessarily all by a killer there's a suicide there's a few things going on here but there's 10 deaths technically in this movie uh which you know it's a high body count man so
And, you know, the throat slits were okay. Definitely liked the one decapitation, man. That one decapitation was awesome. Other than, like you said, it was a little bit. There's one that's really, really good in this movie, man. I really enjoyed it. But overall, man, it's a fun one.
watch man I definitely enjoyed it I don't think I'd ever seen this one before so this was kind of first time viewing I was into it man I definitely dug it so I feel like others should check this one out I think this is a I don't know that I'd hear a lot of people talking about it it's not one that I see mentioned a ton.
on uh shallow channels and different things but it's definitely one that i think people should check out for sure yeah i would agree it's fun it never feels boring um it's got a decent mystery to it it's got some good actors and some good characters i mean if this is this is one of the better ones from this set if you're thinking about checking one of them out for sure yeah 100 because um last episode we uh finished watching the girl in room 2a which wasn't
It wasn't bad, but that was... Yeah, exactly. It was, you know... produced by dick randall as well uh and this is just another one but yeah and i like the police are blundering in the dark quite a bit but i would probably recommend watching this one before that one if you're more of a starter agreed Agreed. Totally. So what else you got on French sex murders? Nothing that I can really think of at the moment. I think I've talked about everything. Apparently, Gordon Mitchell.
The bodybuilder who's in a ton of Peplum movies and stuff was uncredited as one of the men in the nightclub. I actually don't really think I spotted him. Maybe I'll have to try to look harder next time. Yeah, same. And he's a very recognizable face. Yeah, for sure. I'm sure it's probably light.
third guy to the right and it's like having like reg park or something playing one of those parts it's just kind of strange that he's there that's right maybe he just happened to be in the area or something i i have no idea why why he would do it. Maybe because Barbara Boucher was there. Maybe he's like, hey. I've heard that she was pretty outgoing. I wish she'd been in it more.
but that's okay. If you watch the Eurocrime documentary, shout out to friends of mine, Eric Zaldiver and Mike Malloy. They didn't get an interview with her, but just the way people like Chris Mitchum and Todd were... talking about or like henry silva told this story there's a scene where um in a movie called cry of a prostitute where henry silva basically has to shove her face into a pig carcass sodomize her while doing it
And he was not comfortable with it. She's like, yeah, go ahead. I don't like Barbara Boucher was just all about it. So and even I've heard Barbara Boucher in a separate interview where she was talking about movies and all of a sudden she transitioned to that scene in that movie. was like oh there was this scene with henry silva in this movie and she just starts laughing so she didn't she didn't have a problem with doing that kind of stuff right
Well, the cast is good. The music's good. The kills are decent. And it paced well at 88 minutes, man. It's called The French Sex Murders, a.k.a. House of Rendezvous or Casa de Appuntamento. So there you go. That's the southern version of this Italian movie that was filmed partially in France. Yeah. There you go. So what you got on a rating for the French?
sex murders um you know it would have been a six uh the first time i had watched it then it went up to a seven after watching it again nice seven yeah i think i was at a 6.5 and i've actually rounded it up to a seven talking about it uh so seven for the french sex murders definitely check this one out man get your hands on it watch it this one was available via uh god i can't remember where all i think it was was it available on tubi as well i think i can't remember we had the blu-rays but
but it seemed like it was available. This one, I think, I'm not entirely sure. This one, yeah, this one I think was, and the other one wasn't. Okay. So there you go. So let's get into our last movie review for the episode, and we're going to 1972 once again. And this is My Dear Killer, directed by Tonino Valeria. And we're going to go to the trailer. Did you come hear about the Moroni case? She went out to play after her nap.
When her mother went to find her, she was gone. No one knows exactly what happened. The bodies were found together about a month later. This is a bad business all around. What I'm about to say concerns every one of you. but especially the killer. And Ian, take it away for the plot, bro. All right. A man is decapitated and Inspector Peretti is faced with a long list of suspects. It transpires that the murder is somehow...
The murder, yes, is somehow connected to the kidnapping and murder of a little girl and her father, which had occurred earlier. As more and more potential suspects turn up dead, Peretti narrows a search to the little girl's family. Bum, bum, bum. This one has a fairly large cast. This one has a very recognizable face of George Hilton, and he plays Inspector Luca.
Yeah, and what was interesting is this is the first time we've seen George Hilton not play a shifty character at all, really. I think every single movie I think we've seen him in, you're not entirely sure where his loyalty is. lie or what his motivations are here.
you never suspect him of being the killer for a second. Like he's totally, he's totally not with that narrative. He's the one figuring it out. Totally. And I even remember telling Pearl at the end of this movie, I was like, how weird is it? Like, he's always typically a villain.
Non-spoiler, spoiler. He's not a villain in this one. It's like really surprising. Yeah, it would almost be like seeing John Sorrell play this character in a way, you know? It's a similar kind of thing. That's right. But this one I ended up watching twice. I watched the...
italian version of this one and it looked really good like it's a really good print and then they had the American version or the U.S. dubbed version and it did have a disclaimer about it was from a tape so it was basically VHS rip basically and it does you know suffer from that because I watched that one as well afterwards.
because of the fact that i missed some of the wording i missed some because there was a lot of dialogue in this movie and sometimes i would get confused or i'd get lost so i said i'm gonna re-watch this again do it in english dub and see what i catch on it and it helped me the second time this one the first time was was good second time it was even better watching it with the american dub version uh because i was really able to really catch up with it but it's got a great opening scene
Ian, like a freaking great opening scene. And that's where there's a gentleman sitting on the side of this. water thing and then he's got a excavator out there and he's getting ready to tell the guy to dig and something happens to him with this excavator that's freaking awesome i loved it banger banger kill scene at the beginning there are a couple in this one because there's another
the one with the saw blade later. Oh, I love that one, dude. Ripped to the back, ripped to the leg. They both were brutal, man. I was like, fuck. Yeah, Valeri talked about that in an interview, how they did the one with the saw, where they, I don't even think, I think they put some adhesive on her robe, and when the saw hit the robe, the adhesive would go off, and then, you know, the person...
uh, like, you know, whatever the person in the back would pump blood in. Um, so that was, that was cool to hear his explanation on how they did that. Yeah. They really did it well, man. It really blood spray up against the wall as well. It just, it plays out well. screen it looked great on the blu-ray rip of it now if you watch it on the tape uh which is the american dub version
It's a little grainy, but still you can tell what's going on. It looked pretty okay for a tape. I didn't watch the whole thing, but I went and skimmed through it for the dubbing corner. Yeah, cool. All right, so... Luca, once again, played by George Hilton, who I love. And we got this, the story of the little girl who disappeared. She's basically kidnapped and held for ransom. And then we find out that she was her and the guy was left.
to die you know they were just left to starve to death and then we start having murders taking place one by one by one and george trying to figure this thing out so it's one of those who done it really plays good as a shallow the reveal of the killer uh was surprising because i think it was not really out there necessarily you know what i mean like it's one of those types so uh once it was real i was okay with the reveal of it and what was going on even that moment uh when they reveal the killer
And they're in that room and there's like, what, six people or whatever. And he's basically saying like the killer is in here. Yeah, that felt very like Poirot, Agatha Christie. Yes. Although I will say, and this is kind of what makes it. very giallo is the fact that it ends up being pretty dark. I mean, it's not, you know, when you find out what the killer did, I mean, I think it's okay to say this. I'm not saying who the killer is like that.
He basically locked this girl up to starve to death. That's pretty morbid.
it's really morbid after watching it once again the second time back to back as i watched them back to back it just really helped me just really solidify my my brain that like this movie is dark and it has one very disturbing disturbing child scene in this movie oh my gosh i was like look i was when that happened and it's i didn't even remember it from the first time i watched it somehow i wiped that away from my memory yeah uh
I don't know if we'll be able to do that this time. I'm glad Vinegar Syndrome released a version of this that's uncut, but I don't know how much I really needed to see that. No, I didn't. It should be cut. If anything, should be cut.
This scene should be cut. And I'm not, by the way, I'm not, Vinegar Syndrome can do what they want. I'm not sitting here and blaming them for that. Right. But I don't think that should have been in the film in the first place. Like, even by 1972 standards, that's a little much. It's a lot much.
dude and and it's really shocked me when that scene popped up i'm like what the fuck is this and uh pearl wasn't watching right at the moment so i told her and she's like what and i was like dude this is fucking crazy well there are numerous like this whole movie is kind of about a certain, that kind of subject in a way, like even, um, what's his name? The, the character William Berger plays Giorgio can of AC. That's his name. Um, so.
And so there's that part when George Hilton says, oh, if you tell me what's going on, I'll forget about the fact that you were caught like. having sex with minors or something like that like it's just like that that subject is around this movie with a few different people and i don't you know again just talking about how dark and just yeah yeah how dark it is and how, uh, let's say unpleasant it is. It's very unpleasant, but it was just really shocking.
But I think as the movie rolls through, I thought the kills were good in this movie. I thought the soundtrack was not bad. I kind of dug the soundtrack. The score was done by the Inyo Morricone. so of course that's and I think this was some stuff that was probably rehashed from other movies as well I'm sure but well it's it's
I don't think it was. I think it's more of an original score. As a matter of fact, it's a really good one, at least to me. But it uses a lot of the same instrumentations that he would use. Like he does a lot of the, like during kill and suspense scenes, he'll put on like the... brassy bass music and like some of the the piano and then the really really high-pitched strings and the chime sounds as well like he uses this kind of music in a lot of other stuff uh bird with the crystal plumage
specifically has a very similar sounding score to this, although I don't know if any of this is reused from that or not. It does sound different enough, but some of it could be. And Mark Coney did that a lot. I mean, we're talking about the guy who wrote scores for... hundreds of films yes so he's gonna some of his music is gonna overlap at some point like every
you know let's be real every artist has songs or music that sounds similar it's not you know no one has music that sounds completely different from what their original identity is so like i've always talked about how um the score for this there's part to the score for revolver that sound almost the same as uh almost human as well as uh violent city and then the untouchables he uses a similar sort of theme that has that similar sound so he would
recycle at least similar sounds maybe not the same score outright but definitely similar instrumentation and sounds nice well that opening track definitely the theme of the of the movie man is just really strong and you get it toward the uh menu credits and everything as well man it's just really strong so i enjoyed that as well and i will say like the we talked about it but i will reiterate here with the kill sequences like some of the gore in this one was done well
for a 1972 giallo man so i was impressed with it enjoyed it yeah we've got so we've got um an all-star cast here um george hill and obviously mary lutolo playing anna who's sort of his kind of on and off again girlfriend of sorts. I remember her for Confessions of a Police Captain, Salvo Randoni as Chief Morrow, his boss. I remember him from... shoe first, die later. He plays a really good part in that.
And George Hilton said he loved working with them, said he was the best theater actor in Italy. William Berger, we saw him, I think, in Dial Help later in his career. But I also remember him from Chioma. the sartana movies i think the first sartana film um he plays like the main villain uh patty shepherd we just saw her a couple episodes ago in trauma yeah she's playing the teacher in this love her piero loli as alessandro who you only see in the flashbacks actually
playing a good guy in this, which surprised me, because normally he plays villains, specifically in Django Kill If You Live Shoot. Helga Line, who plays Mrs. Paradisi, the wife of the private investigator, we saw her in so... sweet, so perverse. I gotta say, she's about 40 years old in this, looks great.
I'm just let's see here. Corrado Gapa is the head of the insurance company. I've seen him in plenty of films. I don't know if I can name one right off the top of my head right now, but he's just one of those people that comes up in a lot of these films. And Lara Wendell is playing.
stefania the little girl in the flashbacks who we saw uh older um much older in uh tenebrae when she played the girl with the yellow shirt who gets chased around by the dog and then she was in uh midnight killer aka you'll die at midnight And she was also the star of a zombie five killing birds. So this is her, when she was a kid, she plays a much bigger part in the perfume and the lady in black when she was a kid.
Corrado Gapa, I know I've seen him in some other movies. I just can't name any of them right now. The Fifth Chord.
we've seen he was also in the godfather uh yeah he had played uh in that one and there was another one in here i was looking up because i was looking up his filmography because i was like you i was like i know i've seen him some other but he was also in that what have they done to your daughters that we did and here's one of the prosecutors yeah he's uh death walks on high heels yeah he's been in a ton of stuff absolutely
It's a good cast, big cast, like really big cast. And I like it, man. I just really enjoyed it. That one scene, like I said, you know, we mentioned that could have been took out and should have been took out and it will be took out in my memory bank. Overall, man, I just really enjoyed it. And I liked how he finally, George Hilton's character, finally Luca put all the pieces together, right? We see him with a mirror and he's like...
Going back to go find the mirror and all this stuff. Dude, I loved it. I loved the chase up to that point too. Like the killer was just one step above them. It was always like, you know, he was going to go to this one person and then that person gets killed and then goes to the next person, that person gets killed. And it's like, oh, but he finally, you know, hits that mirror and finds out. And that's how he's able to reveal the killer at the end of the movie where he's like.
them look at their image i thought that was awesome but i really well what's interesting is by the end you find out that the killer is not necessarily wiping away the evidence he's kind of Wiping away the easiest way to get to it and the people that know about it. Yeah. But no matter what, it was always going to be found out by someone who was smart. And they establish how good he is to the detective early on by the whole thing with the barrels. Right.
where the guy is hung and he finds out, well, no, he was actually killed because his feet, his feet, it's something about the way his feet were on the barrel, right? Where he said, if he had killed himself, his feet could not have been touching the, it's something like that. I can't remember exactly what it is. Yeah, basically, when he put the barrel up, the toes were barely scraping it. And he mentioned, like, if you hang yourself, that the spinal cord, you stretch about an inch.
to three inches basically so you would go longer right so obviously his toes are barely touching which means he would have been an inch or two shorter than that so he would have never been able to touch the barrel so it was obvious that somebody had set it up so i thought that was beautiful man i loved that was like great yeah that was such a great way to introduce him um to let you know like hey this guy this guy gets it yeah he knows his stuff he's not your
Average inspector. And I will say this. The flaw of this movie to me, there aren't many. I just I did have a hard time keeping everyone in this family straight because you don't you spend a lot of time early on just investigating the private investigator. And that's what leads to the family. But like some of those flashbacks. stuff it is a little hard to keep track of everybody and what's going on just a little bit
That's why I went literally and re-watched it in the English dub. Because I was completely confused the first time I watched it. I'm watching, I'm like, I couldn't remember who was who. There's so many people that I don't want to say they looked alike, but they kind of looked alike. And I'm like...
There's so much dialogue, and I'm, like, so confused, and I'm like, I should like this movie, and I'm, like, really confused, and I've said like 50 times right now. I just noticed that. Sorry. But anyways, I was like. And there I go again. It was so weird. So I said, I'm watching this in English dub right behind it because something's wrong. And then I'm like, perfect. I've got it.
i've got it now okay so this is okay now so the english dub helped me uh in this one 100 and uh keep up with some of the characters it's just so much dialogue and so much back and forth man it was just really weird so it definitely if i would have went off the italian dub or the italian version of this one in my rating would be way lower than what it is right now uh for sure
And by the way, even when this movie ends, like there's still people who have clearly done bad things that are good people still left fine at this ending. A couple of those guys in particular. True. Yeah. Yeah. The one that I still thought was the killer all the way up, even at the reveal.
And then it ended up being somebody behind this chair. I thought it was the other one. I was like, it had to be that. I actually got to say it was a little, a little bit surprising who it ended up being. Like you definitely think that there's one of the two of them that it'll end up being in neither one. really ends up
Being it, at least to me. Yep. What do you got on English dub on this and on the dubs? The good part is I had this all written down because I took it down just a little while ago. So Michael Forrest is dubbing George Hilton. Why am I as a Peretti? I got it. I'm going to have to go back and forth. Yeah. And then, uh, Ed Mannix is dubbing Salvo Randoni and Dante Maggio. So he's dubbing Salvo Randoni as a chief Morrow. Guardi Pelli. Okay. Guardi Pelli. Um,
Let's see here. Susan Spafford, I think, I don't know for sure on this, but I think it's her, is dubbing Mary Lou Tolo as Anna. Robert Spafford is dubbing Corrado Gapa as the head of the insurance company, who I think we only see in that one scene. Um, I don't know if I could find his name, but the lieutenant who's sort of in the background a lot. He's not the commissioner, but the other cop who's kind of in the background. He's dubbed by Frank von Kugelen. Pat Stark is dubbing Patty Shepard.
as Paola Rossi, the teacher. And I think this one is probably my biggest question mark, but I think it might be him. William Keel dubbing William Berger. as uh giorgio cannavesi that one i'm not as sure about but i think it might be him nice cool i always love the dubbing corner man it freaking awesome uh so what else you got on this movie man what uh the my dear killer
Well, so Tonino Valeri, I think, is the best filmmaker we've had covering these so far. And I think one of the reasons for that is he films this really well. Like the kill scenes are pretty suspenseful, in particular the one. with the teacher, there's a couple of different fake-outs that are actually really effective in that scene.
Like there's that one part where she sees the guy by the door. And then, you know, it turns out it kind of turns into a slasher film where she just lets the person into her house and does the whole, oh, hey, it's you. You know, that sort of thing that you see in slasher movies all the time.
where someone knows this person, but they don't suspect them to be the killer. So I thought that that was interesting. But also, he does a lot of really cool transitions, like the part when Peretti first goes to see the family, and it transitions into the flashback.
and they say, this is what happened on that day. The scenery of the scene stays the same, but then it turns into a different day. That's a really good transition. Then you have the part when he throws the rock out of the window and it turns into whatever. she had thrown out the window. The mirror, I think, right? Yeah, it was. Yeah.
Yeah. So that was there were some really good transitions like that. And I do think Valeri is probably the best filmmaker we've had in this so far. I mean, this is a guy who was the assistant director on for a few dollars more, ended up doing. of Anger which is a really great spaghetti western he was asked about why he chose to do this because
The guy, you know, whoever the interviewer was, was like, well, you're mostly known for Spaghetti Western. So why did you decide to do a thriller? And he's like, well, I don't know. I'd always kind of wanted to do all different kinds of movies. I mean, drama was more my thing, but it just never really, you know, I never really got jobs.
for it so i ended up doing westerns and then this but he had no he had no problem with it nice he done a good job it's paced well and it's a long movie uh as far as overall man because this movie runs at 100 and I think it's just a hundred minutes cause it's an hour 40. Yeah. So yeah, 102 minutes. So a little over an hour and 40.
So it's a little bit longer of a film, but it doesn't really necessarily feel long. I think it's paced good enough. But there again, that opening excavator scene, oh my God, dude, is so perfect. I loved it. And if you get the Blu-ray, you get to see it on the menu. Just play it. over and over.
It's so cool. Uh, but in your morning colony doing the soundtrack looks great. So, uh, well that said, I think we'll wrap this one up. Uh, definitely would recommend this one as well, but I'm going to tell you to watch the English dubbed version. Uh, at least the first.
first time if you watch it again then go back and watch the italian that's what i'm gonna tell you to do because it gets concluded and there's a lot of dialogue going on in this movie and a lot of characters you know trigger warning as we discussed already for that one scene you'll know it i don't even want to really reveal what it is it's just a scene that it's very very quick but it's there it's there and if you see it you'll know exactly what we're talking about it's just
unnecessary honestly but so that said what do you got on the rating for this one ian uh i'm gonna give it an eight all right well cool i was seven five on it so eight seven five There we go. Got it wrote down. So, Ian, what's the next episode going to be for Black Glove Mysteries?
All right, so we are going back to Umberto Lenzi doing a couple of giallos of his. We're doing Spasmo and Seven Bloodstained Orchids, both of which you can find on the Giallo Realm channel on Odyssey. Best way to do that. That would be to HDMI it into your computer or to probably airplay it through your phone. I'll post the links on the group for both of them.
Mm. Cannot wait to get back into Umberto Lindsay, man. It's going to be fun. Uh, so definitely check these movies out. Once again, if you're in the Facebook group page at Land of the Creeps, uh, even we'll have those posted for you.
uh so you can watch them along with us hopefully you can watch them before we record and then uh got some exciting things we've been talking i've been talking with ian about so i won't quite reveal exactly what it's going to be but uh something cool coming up in the next couple episodes I would say so stay tuned for that it's gonna be fun exciting and all that good stuff so Ian what you got in closing for this episode
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