Land Of The Creeps Episode 418 : DD 57 Forgotten Gialli Volume 1 & 2 Also Mortal Sins

ROTC presents Black Glove Mysteries with Ian Urza and Greg Amortis. Welcome to Land of the Creeps presents Black Glove Mysteries. And this is episode 418 of LOTC. And if you're keeping the score, that's double double 57. Double double 57. Wow. 57 episodes you've been watching with us and are listening to us. And I hope you've enjoyed the ride as much as we have. And tonight, without exception, we got Ian Urza. What's up, Ian?

Hey, this has been a lot of fun so far. I'm enjoying going through these sets. The first couple of movies were a bit mid, and I was hoping they'd pick up a little bit. And luckily, at least one of them did tonight. One of them is... my favorite of the sets so far. So, and I think that there'll be interesting to talk about like the first two were because.

these are two kind of different films from each other. They, they're doing a good job of mixing things up with these sets of like, okay, we're doing different films for each one. So, so far it's been interesting to talk about. And some of these have been first time watches for me as well. Yeah, absolutely. We are looking at the Forgotten G. Alley set from Vinegar Syndrome. We will be finishing today with Volume 1, and then one of the movies we're going to be reviewing will be...

starting into Volume 2 set. Now, they just announced Volume 8, which is going to be in their March releases, I believe it is, Ian. So, there will be... six more volumes after these two that we will eventually get not that we're going to be rushing out to get all these uh you know we do have you know bills and stuff and these get kind of pricey so as we're able to pick these up we'll start doing these some more down the line for sure uh but yeah

For sure. I mean, I'm always up for watching really any kind of GLO. There's many out there that we can cover, and luckily many of them are getting releases. Someday we'll probably have all of them on some Blu-ray boutique label.

release which will be awesome just seems like all the time there's there's more of them getting out there yeah totally and that's that's i've got to say you know like let's say Severn, let's say Arrow Video, let's say, you know, Vinegar Syndrome, like these boutique companies, they're really going after these older films, and I'm glad that they're able to find...

at least some kind of negative to where they can make these movies for us. Because, I mean, a lot of these were obscurity films to find. And, I mean, honestly, the...

The viewership, if you look at it as a whole, is minor. It's not like there's a large mass of us Giallo fans out there. So, you know, it's not been something... uh that's been sought out by millions but i'm sure there's hundreds of thousands of us out there let us have it and i'm glad that they're catering to us now and it's been exciting to see the releases that are coming out

recently and uh it's fun mondo macabre and you get to raro video all these places man that have been doing these and shameless and other companies that have done these for years man now the other companies are coming on board too and i love it

you know yeah i mean well there's so many boutique labels out there you know putting stuff out you've got even you know like you said mondo macabre there's indicator there's all these companies that are like even smaller ones from the ones that we know a lot of so there's

There's always these companies out there putting stuff out. Cauldron, I think, is coming on really strong the past couple of years. Radiance is doing some good stuff, too. So there's all these companies out there trying to release all these different genre films within different... know within different genres it's not just the giallo obviously

yeah um hero crime and spaghetti western spaghetti western got a little more exposure a while back but euro crime and you know the post-apocalyptic films are getting a lot more exposure as time goes on which is my which is why i hope maybe some

someone will take a shot with some of the sex comedy films and the peplum films eventually. Cause I think I would, I would definitely buy those just because especially with the sex comedy films, they have some of the actors and directors we love. And I just want to see more films from those direct. Yeah, totally. I mean, you take a lot of the Italian directors from our era of the 70s, Ian, they did do these sex rom, you know, type films, and it's like you don't...

You see there are a couple, four, five, ten, whatever horror titles, but then you do want to kind of see what else did they do out there and kind of reach out. I love the show here. I love that we're doing... you know italian giallo and but we are also doing italian cinema so we are doing you know polizias and we're doing you know these westerns that that you love him because to be straight up honest because it's a black hole in my

viewership and i'm loving going down these journeys so i hope all you listeners have been enjoying the ride that we've been taking and i do want to say that as we take this ride down Italian cinema, that if you go over to landofthecreeps.blogspot.com and you go over to the show sidebar that says store, click on store, Pearl's put up like...

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So that said, the movies tonight we're going to be looking at is 1974's Girl in Room 2A, as well as Police are Blundering in the Dark. Now we're doing these... we normally do these in uh chronological order but i just thought about it and we actually got to switch it up because we'll do it by volume

Volume one. Yeah, that's right. Hold on. Let me find the page in the book real quick. I totally forgot. So we will be doing it a little out of chronological order. One was Girl in Room 2A. It was actually done in 1974, and police are blundered in the dark. It's 1975, but we're going to swap it tonight just for the fact that we're doing volume one of the Forgotten Jolly series. Now, you can get these through Vinegar Syndrome site if you don't sign up for Vinegar Syndrome.

Why haven't you? It's free. And if you get over there and what happens is every time you buy a title from them, you get points and you can eventually get points saved up to make out equal to dollars and all this stuff. So I do recommend doing that. I'm a member. i'm sure ian you probably are if not um others are and what it is is you can go on there and check their titles or you can go through diabolic dvd uh other companies you know sell these as well but

We'll let you know what we think of these at the end of the show. But we're going to go ahead and get into this one then. Let's go into Volume 1, 1975's Police Are Blundering in the Dark. And let's head over to you, Ian. What you got for a plot synopsis? Okay, as usual, this is taken from Troy Howard's book, So Deadly, So Perverse, Volume 2 in this case.

which is 1974 to 2013. So it says a paralyzed photographer become inventor invites some models to his villa for a shoot. When the girls start turning up dead, reporter Giorgio D'Amato begins. to investigate. It's a very short and simple premise. It is. Because if you think about the movie, the movie's not that short. Well, I guess it's not long. No. It's actually a shorter run time. It's only an hour and 27 minutes. But yeah, that is kind of a little different. It's good, though.

It's good. Leaves out everything about this family that we're kind of dealing with. Right, right. The central focus ends up being this family, the Parisi family, I think, right? And what they're going through. You know, like other giallo films, it focuses on high society and is sort of like a. let's say, focuses on them to show that they have all these corrupt morals and that's why what's happening to them is happening to them, which we've seen in numerous other films. Yeah, totally.

So here we are with police are blundering in the dark. Helia Columbo directed, which is one of those fake names, right? Right. And I... So there's a disparity here because I don't think Troy Howarth or Rachel Nisbet, I think they both seem to indicate Nisbet specifically. seems to indicate that this person is a man. Whenever I research on the internet, they said it was a woman. So I don't know what to think.

Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. And unfortunately, when you get into these 19... I'll trust the scholars more than I would the internet. Well, yeah, absolutely. One million percent, even over Wikipedia. They definitely do more research. And honestly, if you go on search...

and a lot of these, and not just this one, a lot of Italian shallow, there's just not a lot of information out there other than, you know, people's reviews, right? You don't get a lot of sites where there's a lot of information or anything. So, you know, we had to go by somewhat what other people think. So back here where the police are blundered in the dark, 1975. I got to say this, Ian, I've seen this one before, but I was really. I had not. Okay, so this is your first viewing.

Yeah, no, I had not seen it. And the thing is, we'll come to it at the end, but I was actually pleasantly surprised by it. I had a lot of fun with this one. I think it had a lot of action to it, like there was a kill or... some kind of you know sexuality happening every

five or ten minutes and it reminded me of a joe diamato film i think that's why i liked it so much it like it had like those exploitative elements not within the violence but certainly within the sexuality and it all kind of takes place around one area like it It had...

that same feeling and like the same traits of a diamato film, like a beyond the darkness or a death smiles on a murder, probably somewhere in between the two of those films. Cause certainly not as sleazy as beyond the darkness was, but.

maybe somewhere close to death smiles on the murder on a murder even though that's a better film yeah no i'll agree with you on that uh i had seen this one before so i kind of knew where it went but it had been a little while so the reveal was fresh i had not remembered the reveal so once the reveal happened that was different on me but was it surprising to you on the reveal actually yes because they don't the

Person who it ends up being is not really built up as a red herring truth be told as much as some of the other people are So that was that was a surprise. It does end up being a very psycho inspired although at least they kind of change the sort of mental diagnosis a little bit compared to what happened in Psycho.

But I yeah, it was actually very surprising. I mean, I and we'll talk about that. I like this film, but I do have a couple of issues just right away. The police are blundering in the dark is a terrible title. There are no police in this film. This movie is not a police procedural by any stretch of the imagination. And OK, there's something there is a scientific thing going on. There's a sci fi element that gets introduced at one point where.

the sort of patriarch of the Parisi family. Edmund, I think is his name. And he can like, it's something where he has this machine to be able to... photograph the human mind or something and all i was thinking was man where is ted williams because this is really out of left field i do not know what why this is being introduced and it is

terrible i mean it's just a terrible thing to introduce into the movie because it's like why why are you doing this uh i looked it up x-men started in 1963 so maybe x-men was that popular where this guy's trying to create like a surreal bro machine chialo movie but it's just what what is this doing here i can't i can't argue or disagree with you you are right about that so it is odd

Odd moment. Here's the thing. This movie starts right away, right? That opening sequence. We got a woman in a park or whatever, and she just... happens to have her shirt top pop open and we got someone that doesn't wear a bra running down the field and you know With breasts out. I'm like, okay, I already see where we're going with this movie. And it doesn't shy away from that at all throughout the whole movie, honestly. What did you think of the kills? Now, there's...

multiple kills in this one. This one definitely has a body count. Well, I at least thought some of the kill scenes were suspenseful. The one particular one involving the model, Erica, I thought that was a great moment where the music stops. and there's actually a really effective jump scare. I don't think the kills are really brutal or anything, but I think they're fine. Yes, that's what I was feeling too, because I feel like they could have been more.

Well, you know, it almost was feeling Argento-like, but then they were pulling back a little bit or holding back. And maybe that's budgetary. Maybe that's, you know, effects-wise. They probably, you know, maybe didn't have the...

The person behind the camera being able to do effects like Argento or somebody had. But they were definitely going for body count. And you were definitely going for sexuality in this movie. I mean, basically the photographer that uses... somehow uses this machine to read minds or whatever it's so sci-fi weird i mean it's just really weird and he's weird looking let's be honest and

So we got that going on, but his house is just full of naked women on walls, right? So, you know, throughout this whole movie, you had that tone going. But I don't want it to come off as like this is a very... x-rated movie it's not in my opinion particularly no we've seen worse when it comes to that like it's not new york ripper or beyond the darkness or something joe diamato would make or colchie would make yeah it's not it's not like that

It's not even like a strip nude for your killer or anything like that. Exactly. That, to me, was okay. I liked following that story. I think the musical score in the movie was... decent to good i wasn't like blown away with it but i wasn't disagreeing with the feel of it it kind of fit with the theme so it didn't take me away from it me what about you

I thought it was fine. There's like one particular jam, right, with the percussion that plays pretty much every time a suspense scene happens, if I remember. Yeah. It's a minimal score. I do remember the opening theme being pretty good. There's some strings throughout that are pretty good.

bad so you know musical score decent the kills were were wanting they're there but they're wanting but we did have i think if i'm not mistaken i mean we had at least five to six body kills at least yeah uh so that's really cool how do you feel it fit into the shallow do you feel this is a shallow or is this more of of a

different type uh i don't remember if there was a jmb bottle i don't remember if there was any of that going on uh definitely not necessarily a black glove killer although we do have a mystery killer yeah i mean we have the mystery killer we have the investigative character and it kind of subverts that in a way like where it turns out someone else is really kind of the investigative character but i won't tell you who that is or anything um like

You know, I won't tell you exactly what's going on, but yeah, I mean, you have that element to it. So it is it is a giallo film for sure. And there are some good twists. I mean, I think. another twist not just who the killer ends up being it's actually even a better twist So I'll say that much. You know, over on IMDB, they put these tags up for these movies, right? It's funny when you look at the tags for this movie, male rear nudity, outdoor sex, hairy chested man.

And then we got scissors and thought machine. None of those are wrong. No, they're not. It's an odd tag to be tagging. Hairy-chested man.

I get a kick out of IMDb sometimes, but here's the thing. The movie is not as bad as what people have put it out to be. No, Troy Haworth was extremely dismissive of this. He said something like, production values are non-existent, makeup effects fail to... convinced the photography is atrocious the acting is insulting and the dialogue is downright laughable basically it looks like a a grade z 1970s porn film albeit without the action quote on quote. Now...

This was probably written before this restoration, so maybe we can say maybe the restoration will give it a little bit of credit to Troy's opinion, because at least that's how he felt about trauma. But I don't know how much his opinion would change. This is true, and that's something I would love to get Troy to talk about because, man, unfortunately, and this is my take of this, and I know you're probably right there with me. I love Troy Howarth when you do commentary.

terry's own films i just really love how he's able to you know bring you information so unfortunately he was not on this one and i would really like to hear his take of this film now. Yeah, there weren't commentaries for either one of these. It just had Rachel Nisbet's audio essays, which were really good, by the way. I will say that those were both really good. Yeah, definitely. I feel like that...

Some, and I won't say all, but I feel like some are definitely going to be in agreement with Troy's analysis for sure. I can see that and I can understand that. But for me, I just thought... It got a little bit better on the Sackett viewing. I had seen this one, I think, back in like 21, 22, something like that. It had been a couple years ago or two, three, four years ago.

instantly remembered that opening sequence i just remembered the whole woman going through the field and the scissors uh so that sequence had always stuck with me and then the rest of the movie i kind of remembered the guy with the big curly fro going on You know, the photographer guy in a wheelchair. So there were moments that I still remembered. The cast looks really, they look good.

But there's one guy that I just could not get out of my head. If anybody's ever seen the movie, and this is not Italian, but this is like an 80s, 90s. No, I guess it would have been probably 90s, 80s or 90s. Anybody remember Phoebe Cates? Everybody's like, yes, everybody remembers Phoebe Cates from, of course, Fast Times at Ridgemont High. But there was a movie that she did called Drop Dead Fred that not a lot of people have seen.

But if you haven't seen it, watch it. But there is a character, the lead character, Fred, in this movie, that the one guy in this movie looks... almost like his twin, minus his hair not being kind of in the reddish flavor. So I couldn't get over his look. I kept thinking like, oh God, this is drop-dead Fred. This is drop-dead Fred. I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment.

You need to watch that movie. I know you're watching a lot of first-time watches, Ian. Find Drop Dead Fred. If nothing, just do it for Phoebe Cates. But I'm telling you, it's such a fun film.

fun quirky movie but anyways that that just threw me off a little bit while watching you know um i gotta point out so also we talked about this being a gl there are a lot of red herrings here yes specifically i mean the butler is one of them um there's some really good misdirection involving that character that's all i'll say but also you have like that

friggin' weird innkeeper guy. Yes. Who was that? Why? I don't understand. And then you have the whole nymphomaniac subplot with Lucia, who's the maid who's just... Throwing herself seemingly at any man who comes into the house. Right. Yeah, and she's played by Gabriella Giorgelli, who we've seen before. She's in, you know, The Seven Bloodstained Orchids. She's in The Cynic, The Rat, and The Fist. She way later appeared in The Wax Mask, actually. So she's in one of the last great Italians.

in horror films. Yeah, she goes for it in this movie. Let's say that much. She was probably the most memorable part of it. Yes, yes. And we do have...

The Helena Zalewska who died, unfortunately, this was her last movie. I think you mentioned there, but she had died in 1976. So we do have her character. But I think the cast was good in this movie. I don't think... acting was that horrible in my opinion i was okay with it service no i thought it was pretty serviceable yeah i mean this was this is in italian so it's somewhat hard to tell but i thought it was fine yeah the dubbing in it was not that

over the top bad like you know we make fun sometimes of some of the bad this one wasn't horrible in my opinion i think they've done decent it at doing the dubbing. But no, it's a fun little watch. I mean, it's definitely not one that I would throw out to new viewers. It wouldn't be one of those I'd say you've got to watch.

you've got to watch police are blundering in the dark immediately like it's not that movie but it's definitely somebody that's been in the genre for a little while and they're looking for something else that they haven't seen i would definitely say this would be one i would throw out at them

And the fact that, you know, if you look at the list of the movies on here, you got trauma and the killer is one of 13 and the police are blundered in the dark. So you got those three films. This is the only Italian film, correct? Of those.

those three yeah the um the other one where you know the girl in room 2a is also an italian film the other one we're covering tonight yeah uh but yeah from that set yes yeah so so you got that going for you at least you do have a italian production set this was completely uh shot in italy and um i like the set

I kind of dug the grooviness. It felt very 70s. It felt very hippie-ish. That's another reason I liked it, too. The god-awful wallpapers and stuff. I always watch these movies, and I'm cracking with Pearl. Look at the wall. paper. And I keep remembering, wait, we had that back when I was a kid. Where's the picture of Shea Guevara?

Yes, yes, yes. But no, the kills are decent in this. There's a bunch of them. I would like to see more blood and guts. But when you do hear, you see blood. And these girls are getting knocked off one at a time. So basically, all these girls are invited. into this photo shoot they show up and one by one they're being murdered and who's the killer

Pretty simple premise, right? Why police are blundering in the dark? I have no freaking clue because I don't see the police. But anyways, here or there, at least you do have these kills. There's one scene where a woman is stabbed in the neck out of nowhere, in my opinion. Like, you know something's going to happen. happen but all of a sudden

something comes out and just stabs right in the neck and you're like, Oh, hello. Oh, poor thing. That was a good kill. So there are some good kills in this one. Yeah. There's one particular kill early on. Like I said, the one earlier that. that I said had really good suspense, reminds me of the opening Killin' Black Christmas, actually, with how surprising it is.

Yeah, totally. The guy that you're talking about, I think it is the innkeeper guy, the guy that wears the green vest a lot and is inviting people, you know, showing them where rooms are and everything. That is the guy that looks like Drop Dead Fred, in my opinion. Oh, okay. The guy who plays Drop Dead. dead fred is rick uh pearl just texted me mail m-a-y-a-l-l i'm telling you dude it's hilarious uh but anyways here there i just had to get that out there thank you pearl because

I want to know who Drop Dead Fred was. What's the sequence? There's a sequence toward the end of this movie, and we're about an hour in. And there's a sequence where some woman comes in to talk to one of the main actors, and she's got this outfit on. I don't know if you remember it. It's kind of purple and white.

And she walks in and the thing's about ready to fall off of her already. It's not even like fully on her. And that comes off as quick as, as, as butter melts on us in a, on a hot stove, man. This ain't just like, just. But that's what you get in this movie. And there's long sequences of, like, the woman in the bathroom that gets naked. And it's just a long, drawn-out sequence of just her naked. And it's like... What are we, are we going soft?

core on this one that's why i said it reminded me of a joe diamato it does like there is so many of those sequences that just linger and you're like yeah you probably didn't have to linger right there but you did okay i get it but you know for me it was just like a lot of

those moments i'm scratching my head like why are we still watching this person you know doing this let's focus on a kill right here maybe let's look at but anyways uh so there are those moments in that kind of make you scratch your head that i can understand we're

you know, somebody like Troy Howard's coming and going, wow, you know, I get it. I totally get it. I'm not disagreeing with you at all. Troy Howard, you know, that is your take. And I cannot argue with you at all when you say that this movie, but for me, I think this.

Sackett View one definitely got better. I think the first time I watched this was on probably Shudder or Arrow Video. I can't remember exactly where I've watched this one, but I will say the... blu-ray transfer on vinegar syndrome looked really good yeah for sure so it may have helped so troy if you haven't seen it since this man definitely go and check it out because i'd be curious to see if your if your take changes a little bit uh

watching it again for sure uh so you got anything on dubbing corners on this one no because i was in italian oh that's true yeah this is true i will for the next movie though yeah Absolutely. So what else you got on Police Blundering in the Dark? Nothing that I can really think of right at the moment. I mean, like I said, I think there's a good body count. I think the pacing's fairly good. I enjoyed the location. I thought the kills were good enough. And yeah, I just, I...

I personally had a lot of fun with it, even if I'm talking about some of the elements that I didn't like, like the title being misleading and the whole sci-fi element being something that was not needed and doesn't contribute anything. But I, I still had a lot of fun with it and the misdirection.

Towards the end. Not even the twist involving the killer. I'm talking about even a different twist. I thought was really effective. Totally. Music on this one. The score was done by Aldo Sato. S-A-I-T-T-O. and not much from him in music background, so not real familiar with anything else he's done, and it may have even been a pseudonym. I'm not 100% sure on that, but Aldo Sato in the movie is credited for that.

and it's an hour 27 long movie it's not bad it's on tubi so if you don't have the set uh that we own you can definitely watch it on tubi and and decide for yourself If you want to buy the volume one set, you could definitely go over there and check it out for free. It's a good transfer.

Yeah, for sure. It's definitely got to be the transfer that's on this Blu-ray, I'm sure. I think. So that said, let's go ahead then and pass around our ratings on this one. Ian, where you come in for Police are Blundered in the Dark. I'm going to give it an eight. Nice. Heck yeah. All right. So I originally, when I first watched this, gave this over on Letterboxd. And there again, I don't remember exactly when I read it the first time. I'd given this a three star, which is a six.

And I got to say it went up. I'm not fully at an eight, but I'm definitely at a seven on this one. We'll go over and letterbox and make that a three and a half star. bam let me show my well will it show if you show your activity will it tell you when you did that uh it don't but anyways i'm going with a three and a half star on letterbox so i'm gonna give it a seven now it definitely went up a full point and who knows maybe if i watch it again the third time

It might keep going up. I'm curious if you watch it again, Ian, where are you going to go, if it's going to go up or stay the same? It'll probably stay the same, but who knows? Check it out. All right, so that is the Volume 1 Forgotten Jally. set from vinegar syndrome uh head over and order that and get it uh as soon as you can right uh so we had trauma police are blundering in the dark and the killer is one of 13 in that set not a bad set ian uh not a bad one

So let's see, we're going to get into volume two. Now we're breaking into our new season here or a new volume. This one has three films in it. Girl in Room 2A, which we're going to review tonight. The French Sex Murders and My Dear... killer are the films in the volume two from vinegar syndrome and we're going to do girl in room 2a from 1974 so ian we're going to play a trailer right now now

you can see what actually did happen to the girl in room 2A. Forgive me. There is no forgiveness. Girl in room 2A. A prison in hell. Adulterous. Featuring Ralph Baloney. Girl in Room 2A. A Prison in Hell. Rated R. Alright, so here is the plot synopsis for Girl in Room 2A. Take it away, Ian. All right. Margaret is released from prison, having been convicted of a crime that she did not commit, looking to get back on her feet. She takes an apartment in a creepy...

building inhabited by strange tenants. She soon discovers that the previous occupant disappeared. Unfortunately for her, that is only the tip of the iceberg. Have you seen this movie before? I did, yes, years ago. There were a few films I watched from these sets when they first came on Shudder back in probably early 2023 because I looked at my Letterboxd log and that's when it was. It was like February of 2023 or something when I first saw it.

would have been the same case with my dear killer as well yeah kind of in the same boat too i can't remember exactly where i watched them but it was definitely maybe even a little bit before that i remember going through that spell where i guess they had released somewhere uh so i'm with you on that one this one i had never rated and this one i don't remember watching i'm kind of like i feel like i've seen it but i don't 100

uh remember it so i almost say i had never seen this one uh so girl in room 2a opens up in a very uh mysterious way we got a red cloaked killer right we got a uh somebody that wears a red whatever what would you call it or something yeah kind of like almost almost like an executioner mask or something some kind of weird uh but you got this woman that is being uh attacked and she's given some kind of

syringe and then she's drove off right and so that's how this movie starts out and it says la casa della porra i love it love it uh nudity in this one too so you definitely have your italian giallo nudity throughout this movie well yep well and that's courtesy you can tell that that's coming from Dick Randall the thing about this film is There's a very American sensibility to it because it was produced by Dick Randall, who's a notorious exploitation film.

producer similar to someone you know kind of like a Roger Corman although I'd say even more um like low budget than him yeah um yeah and you got uh i think it's what is it william rose directing who mainly made sexploitation films before that uh before this and you can certainly see those sensibilities on

display here absolutely for sure uh we do have a couple scenes of bodies being thrown over cliffs aka uh don't torture ducklin or some movies like that i love the scenes like eddie and they just always Even if they come off hokey or we got, you know, you can tell they're kind of dolls or whatever. I just love those sequences.

And we got a couple of them in this one, which I thought was fun. I really enjoyed those. Isn't there a car over the cliff, too, at one point? There is. Yeah. And that was fun. Anytime you do it. car over a cliff too there you go this cliff got a lot of action a lot more action than some of the guy stars in this movie i'm just saying The music in this one was done by Birdo Pisano. Birdo Pisano. And the score, not bad. Not bad. Decent.

I wasn't blown away with it. I'm trying to even think of something that would compare to it, and I can't right off the top of my head, but the music wasn't horrible in this one. Honestly, I don't even recall it being that dominant in this movie. But anyway, so we go through. How did you feel this fit into the giallo genre? Is it a giallo for you or is it not? It might be closer to just a straight-up horror movie than a giallo, honestly. I agree.

a certain kind of mystery element but it almost reminds me more of like a satanic panic cult film almost like one of those doom movie scenario films uh like uh what's uh city of the dead with uh christopher lee being a good example of a movie that reminds me of or well heck the wicker man i guess is you know a well-known example of something like that it's closer to that to me than it is a giallo

Yeah, totally. We got about eight kills in this one. So there's like eight different murders that you can go off of. We got stabbings in the gut with... spike type thing so there's a lot of i won't say a lot but there are different things being done there is a a burn that was kind of cool even though it could have been better but i'm just saying there was a burn and then a murder uh

So we got that going on or some swords. There's a lot going on in this movie, man, when it comes to deaths. If you head over to, and I don't know if they're even still current, but. the giallo files have you ever been to the giallo files i think we talked about this pretty sure i'm pretty sure that's still up yeah The last thing that they show is like 2022 block. So 2022 is like their only last blog archive or whatever. But it's the girls in room 2A.

And if you head over there, they do these files. It's almost like if you were going through a FBI file and they have all these things. But the reason I like this is they do these little checklists. And this one I was able to find on there. And this kind of matches that.

checklist you did before uh you did one for the group over there lotc which i loved uh but this one it breaks down does the title make sense and they said yes and it does we do have a girl and she is in room 2a so it absolutely makes sense in this movie And some of the checkpoints in this movie, all-girls school, check. Bad 1970s art, check. Boobs, check.

Number in title. Check paranormal. Check plot makes sense. Check priest in the killer. And then we got woman slapped in face. Check. So it's weird that they do all these. I love that they do these. and they break it down for you. So if you ever get a chance, you know, if you're looking up some Giallo's and you're like, man, where can I go? Head over to giallofiles.blogspot.com. I don't think they're still current. I don't think. But they do have some fun stuff over there.

check out and his files but uh this movie man is fun in and i enjoyed it i don't know we'll talk about it we'll talk about it so let's get in here ian how did you feel the kills were were the kills up to par I mean, I'm almost having a hard time remembering too many of them that happened. This movie kind of blurs for me a little bit. I mean, I don't remember them being anything terribly special. Let's put it that way. Yeah, we got like these impalements going on.

on uh women being uh tortured where hands are tied above their head right okay yeah that all happens in like a sort of nightmare sequence of sorts in a way or like even a flashback yeah okay now i'm remembering and then the um the one where the guy goes through the window i remember being at least interesting yes that too yeah that one was actually pretty good uh we got the guy or a guy in this movie that reminds me of oliver reed

I don't know if you... Yeah, I agree. You're talking about Drees, right? Yes. Rafe Vallone. There's moments, especially at the end of the movie thing, but he really pulls Oliver Reed look off and even...

with the quirkiness of Oliver Reed. I wouldn't be surprised if that's who they wanted in the movie, truth be told, and they just couldn't get him. I mean, obviously, with what type of film this was and the budget they had, they probably could not get him to be in this film even if they wanted to, but...

I'm sure that's what they were going for. Yeah, totally. This one's a little bit longer than the other one. This is 84 minutes long, so it's an hour and 24 minutes. No, it's actually shorter than the other one. I'm sorry, an hour and 27 minutes. So yeah, this is actually three minutes. But this one plays longer. This one really felt like it drags. It feels longer than it actually is, in my opinion. It just felt like a longer movie.

And maybe that's because some of the elements in this movie just leave you kind of, eh, it's okay. All right, whatever. The whole sequence with the people, or I say the people, with the... uh kidnappings going on like why they keep syringing these people and then what happens is kind of weird but was the reveal shocking to you me i mean not not really i think it

kind of I think it kind of goes to where you're you're you're predicting it to go I mean the problem with this movie is I think there's a good atmosphere to it and then it kind of just At the end of the film, I do not like the direction it goes in. We'll put it that way. Well, I agree with you. And it doesn't play like a jello. So this is more of a, I don't want to call it, I guess you can call it kind of a supernatural where, but it definitely goes a different route than what I call.

uh jello i feel like this is more just like a thriller horror movie and if it would have been maybe labeled that way more than whatever but As far as Ajala, this one doesn't play like that at all, in my opinion. The killer is not surprising. So it wasn't a mystery.

The problem is the things that the main character goes through... is more of a horror movie then you have her relationship with jack and he's more the investigator type because he's trying to figure out what happened to his sister i think he is his sister right so he's more the investigator but you don't see

He gets introduced later on. And then there's that revelation that happens that does seem like it's something from a Giallo movie where she finds out, oh, I wasn't dreaming when I saw this guy with a red sash in my room. Right. And some of the supernatural elements that turn out to be false, that's also something we've seen in plenty of Giallo films. So there are connections, but it does feel more like a cult horror film now.

My problem is how this ending unfolds. It happens so abruptly and it just turns into an action movie. It does. It really just turns into an action movie, and the action at the end is terrible. It's all this speed-ramped fighting that just doesn't look good.

And to me, I mean, you have Brad Harris, who is, you know, a bodybuilder who, you know, shows off his physique perfectly fine in this movie. But you could have done even more with that than you did if it was filmed better. Yeah, because the...

the action sequence is in this the choreographing is horrible it's not good and uh it's not really honestly in my opinion shot that well either i felt like it was like i said the speed ramping that's part of it and yeah and that's the whole we have an american director and I'm glad that an American director got the opportunity to make this film. However, I think had this been an Italian director, it would have been better. I agree. I agree because they have a certain flair with what they do.

I think what I love most about this movie or like most about this movie are the sequences where the women are being, and I know this sounds whatever, misogyny, whatever you want to call it, but when they're being tortured. I think when the red caped person is there, I think that's the better moments. Now, at the end, when the person is revealed who's in the red hooded cape is a total bullshit.

farce they would have never been able to do the things that they did in this movie so when it's revealed when it's revealed it's like throughout the whole movie when you see this person is clearly not who is at the end of the movie And it's like...

I call BS on that because it's like, why do you do that? And they do it so many times in movies like this or even in a slasher movie. You know, there's a certain person playing it, but then when there has to be a reveal, then they throw in who the actual killer is. They're like, okay, now we'll do this. And you're like, bullshit.

dude bullshit come on like this person their sequences were clearly the kill the masked killer whatever is got two women in a chamber and he's torturing them you can straight up tell what this person looks like physically wise and at the end of the movie at the reveal totally different 100 different so you call bs on that man you're like come on boy come on quit giving us those little cop outs uh but anyway so that's what makes

That's what makes the first scream such an effective film, right? Is when the reveal happens, it's actually plausible everything that happens before it in that particular film. Yeah. Yeah. And most of the time, the giallos we watch are not quite like this or the gialli we watch. should be saying. Most of the time it's very plausible who it ends up being because they're grounded in a certain kind of reality compared to slashers which usually are not.

I mean, they're grounded in a certain kind of reality, but some of the stuff that killers do, like, for example, even the first Friday the 13th has a certain problem where you know who the killer is in the first Friday the 13th at a certain point. And they're like.

throwing people through windows and hanging people up on doors by bow and arrows. And you're like, this doesn't check out quite right. Right, right. I mean, spoiler, if you've not seen Friday at 13, we know who the killer is, right? Right. could have never ever had the strength to do some of the things that they did uh so yeah and in this movie this person would have never had the strength to do what they were doing uh so

Yeah, I call BS on that. And that's just a cop-out. It's just a fake-out to make you think it's somebody throughout the whole movie. And then they're like, ha-ha, no, it's not. It's this person. Now, come on. I hate when they do that shit. But anyways. Yeah, something I wanted to talk about. So I'll give Rachel Nisbet's bonus feature credit for this. She had talked about how in this film, people who are presumed to be in positions of authority.

are kind of the ones who let's say they're the more deceitful ones in this movie and the the people who are all The good guys in this film are all people with flaws or they're trying to atone for something. Right. Like Jack failed to save his sister. So now he wants to protect Margaret, who's the main character. Margaret just got out of jail supposedly for something.

didn't do jack harris the brad harris as charlie went to jail at some point for being a thief like you have all these different people who come together who are all

flawed people who have either done time or they, they failed to do something. So they're all trying to atone for something. And that's something I found interesting when she talked about it. I was like, actually, that's, that's a pretty interesting point. Yeah, I can see that. And, uh, I wish these movies would have had... more features on them i like i really that's one thing i will say against these forgotten jally sets were we're not getting chock full features like i love

interviews i love you know behind the scenes any anything that they can throw at us and i will say so far the sets have been weak on that Yeah, I mean, well, it just depends on the company who's making them. I mean, sometimes they try to do more. And for this, they're just mainly doing restorations and a commentary for some of these, it looks like, which is good.

I think it depends on the company and what they're trying to do with these sets. I think for this, maybe they were just trying to get the movies out there. I mean, we obviously know certain companies do more than others. Arrow Video, namely, usually has a lot more features than others. True.

True, Severn seems to... go out on theirs as well they do and they've been getting better than they were years ago they they are they're trying even harder now to get good interviews and sometimes they put a commentary on theirs there's actually a lot of severin movies truth be told that i would like to do a commentary on

myself just because i like watching them so much maybe i could maybe i will do that someday yeah uh so back to uh let's see music we talked about a little bit uh what do you got on dubbing corner on this one so i gotta go to my well maybe i don't have to go to my notes actually um angelo infanti uh who's playing frank uh is dubbed by uh frank von kugelen that's one of them uh the other one is

Let's see here. Oh, Frank Lattimore is playing Johnson, and that actually is Frank Lattimore. So Frank Lattimore is dubbing his own voice and playing the character, and he's a guy who's dubbed voices before. So actually, because of this movie, I now know more.

what his voice sounds like so i'll know him as another name when i do this from now on robert summer is dubbing a character in this too but i can't find the actor or the character name unfortunately he's playing like the third like henchman who has like the bushy hair and the beard yes yeah like dreece's henchman so that's robert summer's voice i picked it up right away but unfortunately i could not find a credit for that character anywhere

Oh man, bummer. One of the characters that I did like in this movie, I do want to mention her by name, is Rosalba Nera. and she's been in a ton of stuff she has and the reason i mentioned that is um over when was it last year sometime i can't remember exactly what episode it was now you know i'm sorry

I assume you're going to be talking about a muck. A muck. Hello, this is the doomed show over there. Richard Glenn Schmidt, he invited me over there and we talked about that and really had fun talking about a muck. I'd never seen it, but, uh, recognized her and I was like, yep. I remember Resolve by Nera. Couldn't remember her by name, but definitely remembered her by face. The cast looks great. The cast is...

is a very good looking cast in this movie. Yeah. Um, I wanted to talk about Daniela G or Dono. So we saw her and your vice is a locked room and only I have the key and the case of the bloody Iris, um, death walks on high heels as well. She usually.

plays smaller roles here she gets a chance to be the lead um i enjoyed the bonus feature with her because she had talked about her career she talked about how much she liked working with mario bava on a certain film um i can't remember exactly which film it was uh but she liked working with baba which seems to be what everybody says about baba which is good yeah um

And she actually enjoyed Dick Randall. She said he was running around set all the time, just always had a ton of energy and was always talking about how he wished he could have more money. That was pretty funny. Don't we all? I enjoyed it. her interview um she looked pretty good uh she put on some she still looked relatively like the same person nice and she was also miss italy so that's how she got into a acting career

I could see that. I could definitely see that. Poster art on this thing, if you go to Wikipedia, is awesome. Like, head with hands and a girl's head. It's freaking awesome. I would love to have a poster of that. I just really, I think the movie itself...

The over-the-cliff moments, I really enjoy. The torture sequences, I know it sounds stupid, but I'm just saying those are my favorite parts of the movie itself. After that, it just kind of wavers a little bit. It's just kind of, I don't know, just a little wanting. And the reveal at the end just really was.

wasn't what i expected or what i wanted i wanted something different so yeah i mean to me you you had the opportunity to hear to do something like a rosemary's baby or a wicker man do something really scary and visceral and sort of, you know, lasting at the end, something that could disturb you. And they don't do that like at all. It goes completely opposite. That's.

that's a big problem and even even the initial premise of the movie is interesting like i like the idea of this convict you know getting out and something like this happening to them and i'm sure we've seen that in other movies before like I mean, I kind of like even the idea of someone going to a halfway house or something and this kind of thing happens like that's an interesting premise and they do OK with it. But the payoff at the end just is pretty disappointing to me.

Do we need to talk about the fact that someone lives across the hall, or not the hallway, but across, like there's a little alley?

and there's a scene where they're beating on a wind and you're like the wooden shutters and they're beating on it you're like what the hell and then it's the guy next door which is the one of the main lead characters in this one anyways uh so we do get those moments of fright night or whatever where he's kind of peeking over there uh this is weird moments man it's i like that i like the fact i wanted to see a sequence where he jumps in

to the other window. I wanted to see somebody actually try to make that clearly. That would have been interesting. There was a scene warranting that where he's trying to open the shutter to see what's going on and he throws like a little lamp or something like, yeah, right. So there are a few little moments there that I was like, dude, just jump.

You know, she even alludes to that at one point. Like, you're so close, you could probably just jump right in the window. Like, jump, dude. Like, just fucking do it. And probably break your neck. That's okay. We want to see it on camera. Let's do it. I don't know. But no, Girl in Room 2A, you got anything else on this one before we go to ratings? Not that I can think of. I think I pretty much talked about everything. Yeah, nothing. Nothing I can think of, really.

These are available once again on Tubi, but we are covering them in our Forgotten Jally set from Vinegar Syndrome once again, and we're not sponsored or getting these as screeners. We bought these out of our good hard-earned money. So we're not being paid to do these, but we are talking about them. So let's go to you, Ian. What do you come in as a rating for Girl in Room 2A? I'm going to give it a six. Okay. That is...

See, I was at a 5.5. I think I'm going to stay at a 5.5 on this one. I just feel like it should have had a little bit more. six for ian and 5.5 for myself there you go all right so so far forgotten jally set volume two is not hitting up right yet we need we need to pick it up we need to pick it up so next episode ian what are we covering i think at least one of them will be pretty good at least better than this one um

So we're doing the French sex murders and my dear killer. French sex murders can be found on Tubi. My dear killer, I think can be found on YouTube. I got to check to see if this link is good enough, but I'll, I'll post it in the group once I. uh once i validate that unfortunately i couldn't find it on tubi or on giallo realm so the youtube link i think is going to be our best option

Nice. Well, there you go. So if you want to watch these ahead of time, I would love for you to do that. I know a few of you are doing that. I know Chris Bartoli tries. I know Greg Bozzelli's been watching some with us.

which is cool. So if you can check them out before we talk about them, you can actually understand what we're talking about. You can say, hey, y'all are wrong or y'all are right. You're wrong, Greg. You're wrong. I'm always wrong. I can't remember if it was Chris Bartoli, but I do remember. One of our listeners on one of our voicemails, I think, mentioned the girl in Room 2A at one point.

Yeah, I believe it was Chris Bartoli for sure. Okay, it may have been, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I would be curious if anybody else has seen any of the two we're fixing to watch. All right, Ian. So as closing, what do you got for outros tonight, my friend? So you can find me on Twitter or Instagram and Blue Sky at Erzanomics.

You can add me on Facebook or Letterboxd if you want to as well. Some of my pictures from the convention I just went to are up on Instagram. I met Camille Keaton, Kevin Von Hentercheck, Frank Hennenlotter, and Leon. up her alia at uh new jersey horror con so that was a pretty fun time nice how was camille she was i mean she was very nice um she is older let's put it that way um you can kind of tell

But she was very nice. She she talked about she you know, I talked to her about what have you done to Solon? She said she really liked the movie. She told me a story about how. She couldn't really communicate well with Fabio Testi because he didn't speak too much English. But she said he was dating Ursula Andrus at the time and she would be around the set and they would, you know, take car rides together sometimes. So that was a fun story. I had her sign like a what have you done to Solange?

picture for the 8x10. I didn't have her put anything particular on that. She was like, nice to meet you, Ian, or something like that. But yeah, she was really nice. She's pretty easy to talk to. Yeah, if you have a chance to meet her, go ahead. Yeah, I'm looking forward to hopefully meeting her one day for sure.

I love that you asked her about what happened to Solange. I love that, man, because I'm sure she doesn't get asked that hardly ever. No, I'm glad she had a picture of it, though. That did surprise me, actually, on her table. She didn't have that many pictures. She had probably like 10, and that was one of them.

Nice. Hell yeah. All right, so I'll leave my outros to the end of the show. We've got Mortis Vision coming up with the Mortises, so stay tuned with that. And I think we're doing a giveaway, Pearl. Yeah, we're doing a giveaway over there on Mortis Vision, so stay tuned. That's exciting. It's going to be cool. A little goodie bag, and let's see what happens with that one. So with that said, and I think it was poems. That's what it was.

Yeah, poems. So Pearl wanted somebody to come up with an L-O-T-C poem, and we had some good... Good submissions there for sure. So we'll see how Pearl's going to give that out and give the goodie bag away. So thanks for everybody who entered that. So if you're not part of the Facebook group page, which is Land of the Creeps,

private group and we do that on purpose because we don't want trolls and we don't want drama and all that crap uh so if you want to be part of the group the only way to get in there is let us know that you listen to the show we got to know that you're listening to the show uh so definitely

hit up myself or or somebody pearl or somebody in the group and say hey i listen to the show i'd love to be part of the group and then we can get in there because we just don't accept everybody because we try to keep all the the BS out. So that's what we try to do. So with that said, stay tuned as we've got more division coming up.

And head over to landofthecreech.blogspot.com and get you a shirt. I'm telling you, get you a black glove mystery shirt. Get you a, uh, get you jally on shirt or get you a freaking mortise vision shirt or whatever, man. We'd love for you to wear some LOT. So we're going to get off here and we're going to see you on the flip side. As we like to say, get your jally on.

LOTC presents Mortis Vision with Greg Amortis and the Twisted Temptress. Welcome to Land of the Creeps, Mortis Vision with the Mortises. I'm Greg Amortis. And the Twisted Temptress. That's right. This is episode 418-double-double-57 if you're keeping count. And super excited, Pearl, we got the made-for-TV horror movie tonight.

yes we do and the one we're reviewing is mortal sin mortal sins from 1992. uh this one we chose well it kind of fit in with the whole 1992 uh theme that we got going on this episode or this week with uh land of the creeps right yes it does so it just fit and it's like hey we'd never or at least i've never seen it have you seen it before i've seen this especially with the

irresistible eye candy in it that's right so uh we'll get into talking about that in a minute but uh once again mortal sins from 1992 will be the movie we're reviewing tonight and uh it is made for tv it is a USA, Made for USA, debuted on November 4th, 1992 on a Wednesday. Nice. And I'm going to see if I can put a little spot right here, maybe a little trailer or something. We'll see if we can do that right now.

Compromise yourself and St. Mary's. I have to say something to the fans. No, that is not a good idea. I know it wasn't you. Nina, no. Maria! You heard his confession. This is not a subject for discussion. Why don't you tell them who he is? Look, I can't. I don't know who it is. That's enough. We're finished here. He knows he knows But

The rest of the episode now, we are going to have a contest tonight, Pearl. You decided to do a goodie bag giveaway, right? Yes, I did. And let the listeners know what was the details and the rules behind this one. I don't know.

Of course, contest is closed. True. But I had asked the LOTC family and members to write a small little poem about... lotc could have been anything the listeners the podcasters the episodes anything as long as it involved lotc could have been a small paragraph or longer just as long as you dm me with with one entry we had how many entries eight and we're going to give away two giveaways yes we are and the way the giveaways are pearl we're going to decide by and i hate to say that that

It's our favorites because that sounds like we're playing favoritism. It's not. But we're basically deciding Pearl and I are going to look at them, read them off, and whichever ones we think speak to us the most, we're going to choose that. Which we kind of have. re-read over and over trust us we put a lot of thought into this whatever felt good whatever we thought was hitting in the flavor what you were looking for but i was still proud and appreciated everyone's entry because you know i'm

I love poems, but I'm not good at them. I suck. But I appreciate everyone's entries because honestly, there wasn't a bad one. It's hard when you just only have one or two little giveaways to give. you know, thank you still. Yeah, absolutely. Because I suck at poems and I suck at reading too. So it's a double whammy, but everybody did such a bang up job.

Like Pearl mentioned, we're going to read these off and we have read these multiple times. So we'll read these off and let you know who the winners are. We originally were only going to do one giveaway, but we decided we had to split it and we're going to do two. on this one because they were just too damn good right yeah and i wish we could do one for everybody but there will be two winners tonight and we'll get those sent out as soon as we can to you uh winners so we'll announce

at at the end of the show, as well as reading the poems themselves so you can hear them and see what we had to go up against here, what we had to read up against. Everybody does such a bang-up job, which we knew they were. But... Here we are. It's the year 1992 that we're doing our actual Land of the Creeps episode on. We're doing our top five horror movies. So during that, we were looking through and we found there were some made-for-TV movies in 92.

And this one's one that stuck out. This one really popped out and was like, hey, I want to see this one. And we decided that we're going to review this one. And rightfully so. This was actually a really darn good movie. It was. So we'll get into that. We'll break it down.

If you're new to the show, welcome. I hope you enjoyed the first part of this podcast with the Black Glove Mysteries, but now it's Mortis Vision and we'll do this. And then this Tuesday will be the top five horror movies in 1992 with Anthony R. Special guest that will be coming out just a few days later. So some good stuff coming up, Pearl. And 92 was not that bad of a year for horror. We went down a...

Well, we'll talk about that on the 92 episode, but we went down a little Asian territorial wormhole. And found some movies over there. But during all these searches, this movie popped up that we're going to talk about tonight. And I've said it 32 times now. So let's go ahead and do it 33 times. And it's Mortal Sins from 1992. This was directed by Bradford.

may and uh stars the great christopher reeve mr superman himself yep yep yep and uh this is a really really interesting film like it's first of all we should know who bradford may is Okay, so Bradford May, he's directed quite a few titles, and he's done a lot of TV stuff as well. So, you know, not what I would call a relative.

relatively newcomer he's definitely uh put in some chops here and there he's directed 82 different things and most of it like i said tv movies whether it be uh let's see if we got anything horror related most of this looks like it's kind of comedy to maybe even some little rom-coms or something pearl uh but looking through nothing that i recognize

Right off hand. Touched by Romance. You know that one, Blackout. I have no clue. So nothing that really stuck to me, but he's definitely been around the horn as far as directing for the last several years. Well, I remember Darkman. Well, that's true. He did do Darkman 2 and 3. Yeah. Yeah, so there, yeah. So, yeah, do know those two. But he did do those, and we do have a... Fairly large cast in this one. We have Maria Cross.

Also is Roxanne Biggs. Her name is actually Roxanne Dawson-Pearl. Father Daniel Simmons, played by Frances Gunan. Nina Kroos, played by Lisa Vultagio. And the lieutenant, you've got Lieutenant Williams, played by Philip R. Allen, a character named Paul Kaye, played by Weston McMillan. And there's a lot of other people in here. But basically, Pearl, you want to do the plot synopsis? Sure. Let's hear one.

what we got. A serial killer confesses to a priest who becomes a suspect in a suit because he cannot tell the police. Dun, dun, dun, dun. And that's the story. Christopher Reeve plays a... father a priest father thomas father thomas and he's a really hip you know kind of i would say more to the times of a priest that most

of the younger generation would love like he he gets along with the kids he he actually teaches in the catholic schools so he does the younger generation and they love him like he's he's respected you can tell he's just one of the gang he's one of the gang And he also has someone that actually has a crush on him, too. Yep. Homegirl is macking on him all over the place. Yeah. And she even does confessional with him one time, saying... That'd be Nina. Yeah, Nina.

Shame on you, Nina. And Nina makes a confession like, what should I do? I've had impure thoughts about a man. And in the confession, you know, Christopher is like, well, you know, what was done? she's like you know i had impure thoughts about them and and he said but did you think of being married and she said yeah so that's a good thing you know yeah he tried to make her feel better about her sins do you think he knew right away

I'm sure he has, because he likes to linger upon him and always be there. Yeah, we'll get to know all that. as we go true and let us say this up front again once again we do spoil what we talk about most of the time so if you have not seen mortal sins You may want to watch this one. I don't know if we'll go in full-blown spoilers, but if you haven't seen it, I would definitely say watch it first before you listen to this. Yeah. All right, so that's it.

So we basically have Christopher Reeve playing this father, this priest. And I like him. I think he fits the character well. He does. And I was really pleased with the overall performance because I've only really seen him in Superman and somewhere in time where he goes back in time. But I've not seen him in a ton of stuff other than Superman. Right. So it's different to see him not putting on the cape and the blue suit and flying.

This is a little bit more of a superhero, but it's a spiritual superhero. Yeah. But this one has some twists and turns. We're introduced to someone that comes in to make a confession about a murder that hasn't actually took place yet. Right? Yep. And then it happens. Then he's like, oh, crap. I just, you know, I literally, you know, he already made a confession and I didn't even realize it yet. And here's the kicker.

They say that because of the way the murder is taking place, that it's a priest because they're doing the last rites.

you know, the ritual where they put the anointing of the oil and all these different things. So they're thinking it's a priest. So throughout the whole movie, it's a whodunit. Like, is it Christopher Reeves? Is it Father Thomas? Is it... this character daniel you know who's another priest that's new to the convent uh is it someone outside like who is it pearl i mean it's this movie throughout a lot of it i was telling you like it's it's him

And then I'm like, because I originally thought it was Father Thomas. I thought it was Christopher Reeve, straight up. And then, you know, was it? I don't know. And then we see Daniel. I'm like, no, it's Daniel. It's got to be Daniel. And so all through this movie, I'm telling you, it's got to be this one. It's got to be this one. And then by the reveal at the end, I'm like, son of a gun, dude. You got me, bro. You got me.

But I thought the acting was really good. I did too. Especially when, now that we've seen the movie, the clue was right at the front. Yes. I was like, man. Smack right in the face. Are we going to spoil this one? Yeah, let's spoil it. It's a TV movie, I mean. Okay, so we are going to spoil it. So there you go. You've been warned. All right, so basically through the whole movie, Christopher Reed's character, I'll call him Father Thomas. So Father Thomas is Christopher Reed. Father Thomas.

is a suspect throughout most of this movie because he's around... The right time at the right place in the wrong situation. He keeps putting himself in the stupidest positions, man. It's like, dude, are you freaking kidding me? But you can't blame him fully because his name is on the line. Yeah. He's one of the prime suspects. Yeah. So he's trying to clear his name. In the same time, he's also one of his students is in trouble. So he's...

Feels compelled that he has to help. Yeah, but at the very beginning, like before we knew anything, right, we see that, well, he has to break a fight up, first of all, between two high school kids, and they end up... blacking his eye out, right? He gets punched and he instantly calls reflex. He swings back and knocks that kid cold cop, man. He's just going pow.

And I'm like, holy crap, dude. Christopher Reeve ain't fooling around. Superman punch. Dude, he super punched him, man. He went down quick. So he's got this going on. So we see a side of Father Thomas that we're like, okay. And then a murder happens and they say it's got to be a... priest, you don't see nothing but the hand, and you hear the voice, and it almost sounds like it could be him.

exactly like that whispering voice but that's what makes you think it too because how quick his temper how quick he was reacting and how you know he just seems aggressive in a certain situation so his facial expression Expressions go evil sometimes. And I'm like, oh, that's what I told you. I'm like, it's him. So there's a murder that takes place. He goes to the place where it happened. And he walks in and he's standing there and like, it's like, bro.

don't be messing with anything right now right nothing and he's just straight up in there and then of course they come in and they have to take him in for questioning they're asking all these questions but if you know anything about Catholic churches and priests, they have a certain...

They're confessional. If you make a confession to a priest, then even law cannot make you reveal that. You cannot ask a priest to reveal something in a confession, and a priest is not supposed to reveal anything. Yeah, it's a church rule. church rule. So it overrules even police. forces right yeah so this this movie is set up that way to where you know the killer actually comes in and he's he's got asthma he's making a confession and then and he gives numbers out yes right

Talk about that. Yeah. So those numbers mean something. And he don't know it until he comes across some... certain information and the only reason he comes across this information is because his student nina and her sister maria have been already

involved in something like this it their mother was killed by this killer and he didn't know that until later yeah so once he started finding information those numbers come up and make sense about something yeah you'll you'll finally know what the numbers actually mean

And it is, I mean, if you would know that from the beginning, then you would know exactly where the killer is. Yeah. Right? But we don't know that. Which was the second clue of knowing hope. Yeah. It has to be this person. Yeah. It has to be. And I mean, it's like... father thomas you know if we knew this at the beginning father thomas would not be a suspect at all but anyway so the the lieutenant everybody's questioning

uh father thomas about the murder and why he was there and what had happened and he he can't say anything he keeps telling them like i can't tell you i can't reveal i can't break that that oath i can't go in and break and the cops get mad the lieutenant's getting really upset and then the lawyer comes in and tells him you know you're done here let's walk away but see there's also again

a little a little step back before that he had got arrested and detained for a little bit until he was being before being questioned And while he's in there behind bars, again, his aggression hits because someone came upon him and then he, you know, pushes them against the wall like he was going to hit them. But, of course, he gets stopped.

And it's not something that a priest does. There's a lot of details in this movie that you think like, wait a minute, priests don't do that. Like the school dance, for example, the way they were dressed, the music that was playing, he was vibing to it. dancing kind of to it there's also other moments where you know they tell him step back do not you know put yourself any deeper in this but he wants to clear his name so he still insisted on

finding clues and finding things out and puts himself in predicaments. Yeah, for sure. So I don't know. The movie just runs, I think it's paced well. The acting is really outstanding. The mystery is really strong. There's not a ton of what I would call action. There are a few sequences where there is action that I thought were handled well. I thought it was shot well. I thought it looked good. It definitely plays made for TV, but it's a little dark for a TV movie.

But it's 1992. It's USA, so it's not like it's on a regular network. So I get it. Some of the subject matter would be a little dark. Yeah. For sure. But... I feel like once things start escalating and we start getting clues to who the killer is, it goes back and forth. We find out...

After a little short while, we find out, okay, Father Thomas is definitely not the murderer. True. But now we got the dentist, the Father Daniel character. I mean, Father Daniel Simmons. So there becomes, is he the killer because he has asthma in this?

you know the confessional he's got asthma and he's always not around at particular times and he's new nobody really knows him he's just showed up out of nowhere so you know there's a lot of that going on so father daniel's definitely become or daniel definitely becomes a prime suspect through the sack act of this movie.

And it becomes a point where Christopher Reeve has to, he's scolded for actually hunting down who the killer is. He's determined he's going to find out who the killer is. But his Monsignor is like, This is not your job. Your job is to serve. Your job is to do what you're to do here. I'd hate to lose you. But he basically is telling them, if you don't back off.

you know, you're going to be out of the priesthood. Yeah. Like we're not, you're not a detective. You're a priest. But does that stop Father Thomas? Nope. Nope. Father Thomas Cusack says, uh-uh. I'm going to figure this thing out, and he continues to do what he's doing. Man, he's a better detective than the police were. He was. Granted, he did have clues that they didn't have. True, but that's because he knew. How to look. True. Like he paid attention. Church rules. He couldn't. Yeah. Charities.

clues anyway i know and they're like so upset with him and it's not that he doesn't want to tell them he does and even nina's sister's so pissed off at him because you know someone's going to be murdered and he can't say anything she's You know, it's that whole deal. But it's the one phrase, what was it, baptized by fire or something about fire that raised, it finally becomes the major clue. Yeah, I don't remember it by heart.

I want to say it was something like he said. It's during his ritual, and then he even says it during a confessional. He says something like, baptized by fire or something. So he writes that down, Father Thomas, and he, through the whole movie, clues start popping back in his head and that's when it comes up what becomes a a moment where he tries to go to the what was the institute the basically the priesthood where you train

And there's one nearby that actually released some of the priests out. And he goes and asks the guy, you know, can you release the names of the people that have been? And he's like, you know, I can't do that. Well, can you... Tell me who's, no, I can't give you any information. So he's like. But then that's also when he also finds the store across the street that sells to the Roman Catholics their robe or necessities that they need that only they have. Yeah.

And that's the, that was the final clue right there was the name popped up. And we find out there again, spoilers guys. Uh, we find out that the person works for human resources for. giving, I guess it's some kind of loans or something out for... It's for the claims. Yeah, it's for claims, for like insurance claims for death or whatever.

And one of the guys that's doing the claims used to be a priest or was in training in a priest. There was a fire. Hello. So all of it finally was like ding, ding, ding. Yep. Don't know what he looks like. We do because we see it in the movie. Father Thomas doesn't, but he's got a name now. And now he goes off of that. And that's when all hell finally breaks loose again. And that's when the fight and action sequences takes place in the third act. We find out Father Daniel's clear. It's not him.

We find out who the one guy is and then it just, it goes crazy, man. It's like really good. Two nice action sequences. The hotel with the fire and the bell tower. Yep. Both of those were spot on. So overall, I think the whole mystery of this movie.

is so good and it kept me guessing through the whole movie until the reveal that I you know it's almost like you figure it out right when Christopher Reeves figures it out yep as soon as father thomas got that last clue it's like ding ding ding and then it did in my head too i was like oh my god it's yes ding ding ding holy crap so i think storytelling wise really good

Yes, it is. Acting top notch. There's not a lot of... need for cinematography as far as action sequences and stuff so there's not a lot of there is a couple fight sequences that were handled okay but you know it's just ain't that type movie but i really enjoyed this one pearl i did too i really did

And I felt like after watching it, I was like, dude, I would have loved to have seen this when it first come out on USA. You know, 1992, two years out of high school. Yeah, I would have probably been watching much TV, but still. I would like to see this when it first aired. And good stuff right here, man. Good stuff. Yeah, I don't remember if I saw it when it first aired, but I do remember that I saw it at some point when I was a little older.

So I'm assuming this was a Wednesday night USA. They used to have their weekly night movies like... wednesday night matinee and i think friday night so they had certain nights that they would play their movies it was the middle of the week the middle of the week the hump day movie uh so man i'm gonna tell you man this one right here is super strong this is a seven for me and that's a made for TV7. And the horror is not necessarily there. This is more of a thriller mystery.

But it's so good, Pearl. And I don't know if you want to even rate it, but I'm going to rate it around a 7.75 myself. I'd do the same, 7.5. Acting, once again, everybody, even Karen Kondanzia, who plays the mother, Rose Cross. was really good uh blue man kuma you'll recognize him he played detective roley not a super major role in it but he's definitely in it enough

Terrell Rothery, who plays Lena Falcone. This was, I think, her first... actual acting role and she's gone on to do other stuff that you might recognize uh but i think this was her first uh feature anyways and uh she done really good man i was really Really into it. She's done stuff from Arrow to Stargate.

uh caprica masterminds and she's been in a ton of stuff man lots of tv stuff that you would probably recognize if you watch a lot of tv uh but overall man this is a very good watch i say check it out search it. This one should get like a, I say it should get at least a DVD release, right? It should.

Maybe somebody needs to really... I know Screen Factory does it sometimes, Shout Factory. I'd like to see some of these made-for-TV movies like Mortal Sins get put on a three-pack or something. I think it'd be fun. But Mortal Sins Pro, what else you got? Well, I was just gonna say, like, if you look up Christopher Reeve, you know, he did a lot of TV movies. Like, even some action ones, like Bumpin' Night, Above Suspicion.

another horror is village of the dam that i think a lot of us do know about um nightmare in the daylight and the sea wolf the rose and the jackal i mean there are several titles out there that like I'm going to be checking out. Yeah. He played a priest well, for sure. Oh, he did. uh so that is the movie it's mortal sins from 1992 it was uh pg-13 and it was a hour and 33 minutes but you know it had commercials so i'm sure it fit into the two hour time slot uh but really good

Bradford May, bang up job, acting's outstanding. So Mortal Sins, 1992, good flick. So, Pearl, let's go ahead and should we get into anything else before we go to the contest? You got anything else you want to talk about? No, I think I'm done with that part. All right. Well, let's go into the contest. So what we're going to do. We split the poems up in no random reasoning. We just split them up.

Pearl's going to have four to read off. I'm going to have four to read off. And then we're going to give our answers or our answers. So a total of eight, we chose two. Okay, we're choosing two, but we're going to read them off so you can hear. how hard it was to choose these two, but Pearl will read one, I'll read one, and we'll go back and forth, and at the end we'll reveal the winners. How's that, Pearl? Okay. And I don't want to butcher your name, Mike, but I can't say your last name.

Mike C. Mike C. I can't. Winston Salem, I should say. This is his entry. There once was a creeper named Dave, who on the top of... of physical media would rave. He never misuses the beller, thinks Chainsaw 4 is a failure, though the original Chainsaw is his fave. There once was a lady named Pearl, without any candy would hurl. So true.

She loves when Greg sings in the car. Psyche. She hopes the drive isn't far. That's true too. And she's the twistest temptress in the world. There once was a butcher named Bill. Who's lost... lust for gore we could not feel however his brain was not much because he loves our beloved band rush just there and there will be no ties it's his will

there once was a mortis named greg with cool ass tattoos on his leg maybe he loves all sorts of critters but doesn't make mortis fritters but he might if farmer vincent did beg and that's mike capozani that horror teacher and you can follow him over on twitter as well as that horror teacher uh i do not have the tattoo on my leg but i do have motel hell on my arms for sure right and i love

that mike that was a really really good point man for sure uh mike capozani over there great job see how hard this is gonna be all right let's go to greg all right so greg says they call them themselves creeps but i disagree They're the ookiest, spookiest family. From Ringmaster Greg to Butcher Man Bill, they're the kind of people I'd name in my will. Not to forget the Encyclopedia of Knowledge, Dave Dr. Schott Becker.

of who like there's a shortage last but not least the twisted temptress pearl she's an editing master and beautiful goth girl all the callers and listeners alike look forward to hearing what they say on the mic For their bi-weekly podcast, That We Adore, three cheers up to the LOTC4. Nice. Good job, G-Ring. Okay, next one is from Wade Nash. Twas a man from North Cackalacky. His podcast was cool, never tacky. Watched all the horror that came through the door. So listen each week. It gets wacky.

I love Wade. Way from Australia, correct? Yes. Yes. He's from, he's from down under and I love it. Way, such a bang up job, buddy. And I do try to watch all the horror that goes through the door. I made a good job, buddy. All right. So that was awesome. Let's see. Let's go to Gina Marie. Let's see. Gina says, roses are black, so are our souls. Land of the creeps, you guys, are my peeps throughout the week, especially when I'm feeling weak.

Pearl and Greg, you guys are great. You're always posting a great treat. Awesome. Gina, good job. It's like at a roses, red, violets, or blue. You know, my name is Greg and you're not too. Don't say that's my point. Was that pretty good? Was that pretty good? And she recently posted her awesome arm tattoo. Dude, she'd kill her tattoo, bro. Right? Holy crap, man. That tattoo's tight. So good job, Gina. Thank you for that.

Alright, Pearl, next up. Next one's from Brian Scott. Entitled, L-O-T-C, what can I say? I could listen to it every day. Y'all had me on and it's groovy with Shadow Friday the 13 movies. Dr. Shock is a trooper because he loves Toby Hooper. Bill cracks the naughty jokes because he's a Canadian bloke. Greg is on the...

Nostalgic lover. That's why he's my 80s brother. And the listeners are so great. Calling in before the recording date. Anthony R. takes a shot. Just like me, his liver's about to rot. Greg Bench has become a verb. I love he likes movies that disturb. Darren's always calling in first. I call in last. So I'm in reverse. Victoria Chambers pairs movies with dinner.

It's my kryptonite. I need to be thinner. Justin Beam loves Bloodhook. And you all go buy his new book. The gruesome twosome. Always a treat. Their love of horror is always so neat. Ian Ursa is my man. He's such a good giallo fan. Karen is my 80s sister. That's not a myth, but I don't agree with her about labyrinth. Chris Bartoli from...

Wooster, Mass. We love your accent. It's a gas. Greg Buscelli knows how to mix a cocktail. I often need the recipe sent by email. 0010, I love you, man. Your call in with Arnold. what's the jar hey jay said terminator is a slasher dammit greg don't be a general basher but me and greg share tv guy love

Our wish would be reigning 80s TV guys from above. Dave Becker is the knowledge encyclopedia and he's the master of physical media. Pearl is a sweetheart and the best. Greg knew right away she better than the rest. Pearl's house is much strife. We love you, Pearl. L-O-T-C for life. Sent from Jack Torrance typewriter. Wow. Wow. All work and no pay. I know, Brian. You crushed it, dude. You nailed it. That was really fun. Yeah, you definitely nailed it, dude. So much in that one, man.

Thank you, brother, for that. Let's go to 00 Tim, and his is called Creepers for Life, a sonnet by 00 Tim. here we go so when lotc podcasts on a day airwaves all darken with horror unkind voices approaching All showing the way for lovers of horror, new horrors to find. First comes the butcher from Old Toobyville. Guinea pig binging while jamming to Rush. After comes doctor who shocks with his skill, Jamaican us wild when he speaks, we hush. There sits the temptress, oh, rye.

wicked grin waiting in secret to jump scare her man lastly comes mortis podcasting to win all with the heart of a great horror fan these are your creepers a fun bunch to see And more fun to hear at LOTC. Oh, you... Creeper by life, dude. I love Double Tim. I'm telling you, we got so many talented people. God, dude, I couldn't even come up with that line, man. Come on. You guys are crushing it. Okay, my last one is from Mark Schable. Roses are red. Violets are blue.

Frontman Mortis is our brother and our dearest friend, and so are you. Hey, flattery will get you everywhere, Mark. Right? I love Mark Schiavel. Man, this guy is such a great friend. Great, great boy, man. Roses, red, violets, or blue. Anytime you talk about me, I love you too. There you go. Boom. All right. Last one we got here is from Tammy. Land of the Creeps, you're my favorite peeps.

More than a podcast, we're an extended family. Coming for the horror reviews, stay for the friends. Greg, Dave, Bill, and Pearl. Horror friends till the end. Oh, I feel like a Chucky rhyme there. I feel like I know. Right. Chucky to the end. All right. So there it is. That is our eight contestants in the. pool for lotc poem and we're going to choose two and i think we come up with two really good ones i wish we could do them all we did after

Reading these over and over and being like, okay. So let's go ahead and get it. Who's going to be the grand prize winner, Pearl? Drum roll. For the first prize, Brian Scott. Boom. mic drop. Brian definitely nailed the spirit. a lot of people were included not just us not just the episode it was everyone who knows brian you know we love you brian everyone who knows brian knows he includes everyone and tries to include everyone and

That's exactly who we are in LOTC. It's everyone. That's why it was so hard for us to choose because everyone did a great job. There was meaning in every single one of these poems. So it was hard. It was. So, Brian, you are the first place winner. And then our second place winner, Pearl, was horror teacher. That horror teacher, Mike Capposani. Yeah. Mike, dude.

Really loved your poem, man. It was really to the point, man. And it was just, it was really thought out and we really appreciated that dude. So we're giving it to the horror teacher himself, Mike Capposani. So we will be mailing out your prices on Tuesday, which is the only day I can get to the post office. So there you go. So thank you for everybody that definitely.

tuned in and actually sent in these poems. Pearl had announced that actually in the Facebook group page. So that was awesome. And I really appreciate it. It truly was. A little something goes a long way. This is true. This is true. So with that said, now we've talked mortal sins from 1992. We have given away our gifts, which will be coming to you. And I hope everybody will enjoy those.

uh pearl in the theater right now as we speak we just recently got to see queen of the ring which i thought was a really not horror but a really good biopic of uh mildred burke that was awesome and she She was, I will call her the OG of female wrestling. When wrestling was illegal, she made it popular. And it's really good. If you've not seen it, I highly recommend checking it out. And we saw The Rule of Jenny Penn.

Yep, psychological thriller. Psychological thriller, not necessarily horror, but psychological thriller that starred John Lithgow and Jeffrey Rush. We've done reviews over on our YouTube channel. We're trying to do that with movies we see in the theater and we got a few more coming up. I do have a couple that I do want to see that are in the theater right now.

One of them I've heard is Mickey 17, Robert Pattinson, but it's got Toni Collette in it. So I'm all about that. And it's basically, from what I understand, is the character... I'm assuming he's Mickey. It's kind of almost like a happy death day type scenario. Yeah. Where he dies and then he comes back and he dies again in different ways. And thus the mention of Mickey.

and the number 17. I think that would be kind of a fun flick. I do also want to see In the Lost Lands. In the Lost Lands is definitely one that I think we're going to go see maybe this weekend or something. Man, this one's got... Dave Bautista in it. And also Mila Djokovic from Resident Evil. And I like it. It looks, it's post-apocalyptic for sure. Yeah. It's got creatures.

But it looks like it's got a lot of action in it, and I'm all about that. And I'm liking Dave Bautista. I think he's really... Yeah, he did really good in the cabin in the woods. Yeah, I think his acting has really come along. Or was it a knock at the cabin? Sorry. Knock in the cabin. Knock in the cabin. Another one is the Woody Harrelson.

movie last breath uh may go to try to check that one out as well that one The story of one of the underwater guys ends up getting, I guess, the air tube or something, but he's down exploring or something, and somehow he becomes unattached and falling, and Woody Harrelson's like, we're not leaving anybody.

behind so he goes to try to save uh this person so we'll see about that when i might go try to check that one out pearl i want to see captain america just because i want to see a bunch of action And it may be stupid, whatever, but I think we'll go see it. But anything else coming out in the near, near, near future? I was looking up Regal and it only goes so far. Because I am who I am. I want to see Stitch. Okay, you want to see Stitch. Fair enough.

Fair enough. Coming soon. Let's see. We got Thunderbolts I want to see. Snow White you're wanting to see. So these will be things at the theater that we're mentioning here. There's a movie called Locked. Which has Anthony Hopkins in it and Bill Skarsgård. Not sure exactly when that one's coming out. The woman in the yard. The woman in the yard looks really creepy, guys. It does. If you've not seen, and I try not to watch trailers, but.

But this one has been showed multiple times since we've been going to theater. And it's set up with this mom. And their son and I think a daughter or something in their house. And they look outside and I think their husband had died recently or something. And there's this old, well, I don't know if she's old, but there's this lady in a black.

cloth over her head you can't see who she is just sitting in the yard it's creepy yeah i only come when i'm called right so somebody's called uh so that was march 28th so that one i'm really looking forward to woman in the yard i mean so many movies coming out as we did on the last several weeks ago we did the upcoming i mean they got the black phone to megan 2.0 28 years later

I mean, there's so many different ones coming out. Final Destination. Yeah, for sure. So we'll see what we're going to get into. I know... March 21st is that movie with Anthony Hopkins and Bill Skarsgård. Don't know much about it. It's just called Locked. Oh, I do know that one. That's where he's locked in the car. Yes. And he can't get out.

That's what it is. Oh, yeah. That one's going to be like one of those intense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I know what that one is now. It's from producer Sam Raimi, by the way. Hello, if that doesn't get you all excited. From Evil Dead Dragon Hell, it comes a relentless horror thriller where luxury becomes deadly. When Eddie, played by Bill Skarsgård, breaks into a luxury SUV, he steps into a deadly trap set by William. played by Anthony Hopkins, a self-proclaimed vigilante.

delivering his own brand of twisted justice. With no means of escape, Eddie must fight to survive in a ride where escape is an illusion, survival is a nightmare, and justice shifts into high gear. I'm looking forward to that one. I actually can't wait to see that one. Boutique-wise, I know some movies that's been released recently. Nosferatu just recently came out. If you've not seen it, it is available over on Peacock.

go pick that up on 4k now the substance is available to pick up now so there's some movies out there that i would highly recommend wolfman is coming out i believe next week

There's a 4K release of Deep Blue Sea. Remember Deep Blue Sea? Yeah, I love that movie. They just released that on 4K, man. And I'm hearing that that movie looks... phenomenal i actually like that better than josh i know i'm sorry people but i do and that's that's via era videos era video released a 4k of that deep blue sea so i think pearl and i may try to pick that one up and uh i don't know as you're listening this if it's still running but barnes and nobles

and it may be anywhere but i know barnes and nobles in particular are running a 50 sale on all their paramount movies so it could be anything from the godfather the crow the crow like We went and picked up. Flashdance. Flashdance. We picked up like five or six titles. I can't remember how many. I'm going to do a video soon. But they were 50% off. Some of them were only like nine bucks on 4K. Dude, it's insane. So I would definitely recommend that. So just trying to get you some...

titles out there. Peacock has definitely got Nosferatu. So if you want to check out Nosferatu, I would recommend that. You can go watch that. And I believe they have the extended cut version, possibly. If not, we got 4K with that.

So I think without further ado, Pearl, if you ain't got nothing else, we'll start wrapping it up. Nothing else. All righty. So this is going to be the end of the show. Once again, thank you for staying with us. Black Glove Mysteries with Ian and I had such a good time. And then here is we. talked uh mortal sins i've said that 500 times now so if you take a shot for every time i said mortal sins you're going to be very very drunk

Sinful. Sinful. Sinful. And again, congratulations to Brian and Mike. Yes. Brian, horror movie fanboy over on X. Or we can go that horror teacher. Mike Capizani as well, man. Thank you guys. And thank you to everybody that turned in their poems that knew about this. That was awesome. Y'all done a bang up job. So we're going to get out of here. Pearl, what you got in closing? You guys know where to follow me on LTV. main group page and anywhere Greg and Morris is at.

That's right. And for me, you can follow us over at Jay the Dead's New Horror Movie Podcast. I know Jay's got a ton of stuff in the basket that he's just got to get edited and sent out. So there's going to be a lot of content coming from the Avengers. And I'm talking a lot.

and me too and pearl 2's on a few of them as well so over at jay the dead's new horror movie podcast check it out and bear with jay he's got a you know it's just a lot of editing and recording and different things and he's trying so uh We appreciate everything he does. And you can follow us over on Instagram and X. And I would love if you'd follow us over on YouTube channel. If you go to landthecreatestopblogspot.com and go on to each show note, you'll see my YouTube channel.

Click that YouTube channel. Love for you to subscribe and just follow along. I'm trying to post more videos. We're doing unboxing videos. We're doing movies that we pick up. We're doing reviews. We're doing a little of everything. I got a wrestling one. I'm fixing the rules.

least it's going to be two or three episodes of my wrestling dvd collections and uh just lots of stuff man we're just going to try to keep pumping out more material more videos and there's gonna be some other stuff down the line that we'll try to do as well so with that said thank you so much you can email us gregamortis666 at gmail.com So as we always like to say, help keep poor alive. We do that one movie at a time, one review at a time. Until next time, peace.