Land Of The Creeps Episode 417 : Director Spotlight Jean Rollin With Justin Beahm

Welcome to Land of the Creeps Horror Podcast. I'm your host, Greg Amortis, calling in from North Cagalacky. That's North Carolina to all you Northerners. And you're listening to episode 417 of LOTC. And we are back. We're back. I was going to say some ACDC stuff. I'm going to leave that alone. But we are back tonight. I cannot wait. We're going to be talking some films from French director, Mr. Jean Roulin.

Jean Roland is how it says. But it's Jean Roland from France, of course, French. He's a French director. But we're going to be talking some of his films. We got four featured reviews tonight. We got four lustrous.

freaking host tonight well three me not included but i'm there uh but we've got three really great hosts and then me uh and we're going to be talking uh some jean rolling films and i cannot wait for that man this is gonna be super exciting so without further ado if you're new to the show welcome

I hope you'll enjoy the show. We have a great time. The Twisted Temptress is over there. She's not going to be on tonight, unfortunately, but she sends her warm wishes and welcomes and she's waving to me right now. So she's loving you from afar, but she will be listening. from close up so that said let's go ahead and welcome in the crew we're going to go outside of philadelphia pa and welcome in the man that we love to call

the Encyclopedia of Knowledge. We also like to call him Mr. DVD Infatuation, but we're going to call him the 13-year LOTC host because it is his anniversary, and we're going to say welcome, Dr. Shock. Dave Becker. Thank you, Greg. And boy, yeah, it flies. It really does. 13 years, I can't believe it. This is my longest tenure on any podcast has been Land of the Creeps. It's just such an honor for me to be part of this great group, recording with my awesome co-hosts and the community at large.

you know, over there on Facebook, especially it's just, it's amazing. And, uh, it's been, it's been, it's been my honor, uh, to, to be on this podcast and, uh, looking forward to discuss some Jean Roland. There it is. Jean Roland. I feel like we're giving Oscar speech right now. It's Oscar weekend as we're recording. It's coming up this Sunday. Whether you like it or not, it's coming up. But I'm not getting political. No, we're definitely not. But Dave is giving his speech right now.

now it's his 13 year anniversary so we're giving him his his what what is that uh what is that one award where they give to the oh shit like i know you mean like lifetime achievement yes lifetime achievement award we're giving david a lifetime achievement award right now this is it

Yes. They usually give that to the people who say, boy, we should have given this guy an Oscar or two before, but we didn't. I mean, some people get it who've already won Oscars, but they tried to give it to Peter O'Toole one year, and he's like... No, don't give me that. I'm hoping to win the damn thing outright at some point. We're not giving participation awards. We're trying to get an Oscar here, damn it. Right. Yeah. You keep your participation ribbon.

Well, Dave deserves an Oscar. He is. He is the Encyclopedia of Knowledge for Real, and we're super to have you on here, brother, and have enjoyed 13 years of recording. Not an Oscar, a posker. A posker. Yeah, there you go.

All right, so let's go ahead and welcome. Next up will be Bill the Butcher Van Vagel, where he's up in probably 16 foot of snow and probably done, I ain't going to say what he's done to the children there, because where he's teaching them, I'm sure he's given them perlinia knowledge. and probably taught him how to read and write. This just went down a very disturbing time. No, he's being a teacher. He's professionally teaching them. I haven't said a word.

You have properly taught them the right things, right, Bill? If you say so. Okay, we hope you have. You better not be teaching them things about the three little pigs or anything. I'm just saying. No, other than we all love roast beef. All right. So, hey, everybody. Pronounce it, Greg. It's Jean Roland. That is not what my computer told me. Well, that might be, but your computer's wrong. Now, I cannot continue this episode without recognizing the unfortunate passing of Mr. Gene Hackman. Yes.

Gene Hackman was a brilliant, brilliant actor who unfortunately has succumbed.

I don't want to speculate as to what it was, but it was something of the natural cause or something that they didn't do on purpose. It's funny. They're now saying, they're investigating it because his wife... hands and feet were partially mummified so they had they may have been gone and there was decomposition in both of them they may have been gone for a little bit of time i wonder if it was a pact who knows well it's hard that they weren't together

and one of the dogs was found in a closet yes one dog was found in a closet because i recently saw pictures of him and you know he was 94. did he look at yeah but he looked at For 94, he was going to the coffee shop or something. He was still moving around. Yeah, I mean, he was, you know, and then, yeah, just that I'm with you, just an amazing actor. But I mean, from, you know, from the conversation.

to Hoosiers. I love Hoosiers. That might be my number two or three sports movie of all time. I love that scene. It's so funny because him, he did not think that movie was going to be anything. There's a scene where they're sitting on the bench and he's talking to Dennis Hopper and you don't hear what they're saying. They're just whispering like, you know, it's like coaches and one lets out a laugh. It was one of them is one of them has said, well, nobody's going to remember this damn movie.

And then the other one laughed. It's funny because he had no respect for that movie. And it's really one of his most iconic roles. It's one that everybody thinks of. That scene where one guy had a foul and he wouldn't bring somebody off the bench. We're playing with four.

the ref is like are you sure those are our guys oh and when jimmy hits that shot at the end and i mean i'll never forget that scene with the poseidon adventure where he's twisting the opening with the handle at the end he's like leaped onto that wheel and he's trying to open it shouting at God. That spooked me as a kid. I saw that when I was like eight. I think I saw that on TV when I was a kid also. It's a tough watch when you're that young.

remember it i mean you remember that particularly because you saw the flames from the uh from going rising below him as he's twisting it yeah I have to say The French Connection, which was probably my favorite. And he shot his very last film, Welcome to Mooseport, 20 kilometers northwest of me. So, you know, that's not horror, but anybody who appreciates cinema, if you haven't seen anything by Gene Hackman, just type into YouTube, Tubi, Shudder, any of them will have a whole library full.

Watch. I want to say yay to Team Canada for winning the Four Nations final. What a fantastic game. That game was as good as I've seen in... 15 years. Fantastic. And we were talking about the Oscars and who would get one if they only give it to the guys. Does that mean Donald Sutherland's getting one this year? Maybe. Can you think of a better actor who's never won an Oscar? No, he definitely should. But they usually like them to be there to accept it. I don't know that Donald would show up.

Yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it. The wife, the daughter, the cousin. Well, they could do that, yeah. No, obviously, yeah, Donald Sutherland is another one. Did Olivier ever win an Oscar? Olivier? That's it. I think so. But you have to go back maybe to when he was doing like the Hamlet and Richard III. Back then when those were accepted as. Yeah. What was it? Henry V, one of them.

Maybe. I think he won one back then, but I don't. I was trying to think. Somebody brought up today that Sutherland might be the best ever actor. He's never actually won an award. It's possible, although Peter O'Toole never did win an Oscar either. He never did get an Oscar for acting for, for, yeah, he did not get it. I think he did. I don't know if he did eventually get the, um, lifetime achievement or he accepted it or an honorary Oscar or something.

I would like to say Buck Flowers. Yeah, definitely. Now you got me curious about Olivier because I could have sworn that he did win one for those. Let's get to know our next guest and then Dave can look at him. Yeah, let's. Let's welcome in the guests here because we've left them quiet for too long. So let's go ahead and bring them in as we've talked 20 minutes of other stuff. Let's welcome in the guest tonight. He is the man.

uh that we all love and adore man he is a family member man we love this individual who has just recently released a book that i think everybody hopefully will pick up and if you haven't you should pick up and let's welcome in none other than justin b himself jb what's up my brother hey fellas hey pearl i uh 13 years i think back that clocks in about the time that we started talking doesn't it i mean i was pretty early as a guest wasn't i

Yes, yes, because I remember you were working with Trankis Films. Right. Would have been around 2009 or 10. It was definitely around that time frame. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, absolutely. So I've been throughout the, like once in a while, the train stops at my station, the LOTC train. And I love that. And I'm always honored to be on here with you guys. Thank you for having me. You are known as the permanent conductor. Oh.

There you go. He keeps the caboose going. You are the George Carlin to our Thomas the Tank Engine. There it is. I thought he'd be Ringo. He is the drummer, so he could definitely be the Ringo. And the drummer is the most important part of the band, right, JB? That's right. And that says every band member, I'm a bass player. I'm the most important part. Everybody forgets the base player. He don't exist. Except in Primus. Oh, dude, so true. So true.

What a band. What a band. But anyways, we're here tonight. We're going to talk genre land, and we're going to go to Justin Beam in a little bit, and we're going to talk about his book and let him talk about that. I was going to say, while we talk about Primus, I want to give a shout-out to Rory for his... accomplishments with them and uh special loves you having you back

Yes, definitely. I mean, he was able to, and I don't know if they're going to release the full documentary or video or whatever where Primus was looking for a new drummer, and Rory from Les Special, as Bill mentioned, did try out for him, but Primus had some good stuff.

actually the first person that they auditioned yep they had some good stuff and i think they did do some documentary style videos so i would love to see that full video uh for sure and they were definitely impressed so i was impressed and i love it anyway sure i said

Good job, Rory. So tonight's about Jean Roland, but we will definitely be heading to JB talking about his book as well and other projects he's got going on. And then we got some calls from you, the listeners. We do understand that this is a theme, a subject that...

is maybe not for everyone for sure this is definitely a director of acquired taste and uh we we understood that but we went into it with love and i'm a big fan of john roland i'll be honest uh he's just always i've appreciated i guess you would call it the art of filmmaking that he gave us is he the most prolific absolutely not was he someone that would give you a a coherent story most of the time no but he gave you so much imagery of beauty and

I honestly mean that I'm not even blowing smoke. Is that code for boobs? No, no, totally not. I'm just saying beauty. Yeah, no, I'm talking about imagery. Like this man knew how to grab scenes. And we'll talk about it as we get into these movies and some of the imagery that are in these films that maybe the films aren't the best in the world.

But, man, there are some beautiful shots in there for sure. So we'll get into all that. But before we do that, we've got to get our shots in. If you're new to the show, we do this every start of the show or within the first 20 minutes. We always do our shots. Sometimes the first 45 minutes. Yeah, you know, sometime in there. I'm doing my Jim Beam and Honey. Yes, I'm back to the JB and Honey. Thank you. Not sponsored by, but should be by Jim Beam because we talked.

about you every show i got my lotc four face shot glass ready and full so let's head over to you dr shock what you drinking on tonight well i just have my um i have coffee and i actually it's a uh what is where is it um maybe from uh Not Ethiopia. Guatemala. This is a Guatemala coffee.

It's just called that. It just says Guatemala. Wow, Guatemala. Not the most imaginative name. They just, you know, assign a country to it and say, okay. A dark roast, a light roast. It's very dark. Yeah, very dark, but it's good. It's very good. Oh, and by the way, Laurence Olivier did win an Oscar for Hamlet at the 1949 Awards, where he was also nominated for Best Director that year.

his first nominee he was nominated for rebecca too did he defeat john carradeen in the final yeah right well i guarantee he was nominated more than john carradeen Yeah, his last nomination was in 1979, the 1979 Awards for the Boys from Brazil. And he was also nominated for Marathon Man, which was a really, really good movie. But like I said, he was nominated for Rebecca.

for Hitchcock. In the 40s, he got quite a few nominations in the 40s. So yeah, and he won an honorary Oscar in 1979, the same year that he was nominated.

heard the boys from brazil he won an honorary oscar for his body he was the opposite of newman where newman had to wait till the end he got at the beginning had to wait till the color of money to uh to finally get his his oscar yes which i think they i mean it was good but it wasn't well i i mean newman's always good he should have won for the verdict i'm sorry he was going to get a late one it should have been for the verdict damn it because he was

He was masterful in that. Or the original pool movie. Oh, the husband. He was in all that stuff. You know, HUD, he should have had a nomination for that. Yeah, Cool Hand Luke especially, yeah. So he should have had a lot more, but definitely he should have won for the verdict. Sorry, he should that with Sidney Lumet's the verdict. He was so damn good in that movie. It went to Ben Kingsley for Gandhi, which Ben Kingsley was not.

bad but that is like a straight up oscar grab type of movie and newman was so good in the verdict all right so that's uh guatemalan coffee for yeah yeah by the way yeah guatemalan coffee Yeah, so here it is. Pearl says, they say Guatemalan coffee has Coke in it, so it's cartel approved. So just saying, Dave. There you go. All right. You might be a little hyper in a little bit. So this is like the strongest coffee I've had in a while, I'll be honest.

All right, Bill, what are you drinking tonight? I've got water mixed with peach rock star. But I sprinkled in, last time at the reserve, I picked up some cannabis crystals. So I've got about a hundred milligrams in my water right now. I'll be fine. We'll be fine. I'll go upstairs and watch hockey when I'm done. I'm fine. Let's head to JV. JV, what you drinking on tonight, my friend? I am nursing a respiratory infection, so I'm just hitting the water hard here.

yeah let's let's throw out good thoughts and prayers over to jb because man i feel you brother i know what that's like oh yeah not fun yeah and pearl is drinking pepsi what wild cherry cream Pepsi soda or something. Wow. That sounds good. Yeah. That sounds like a trip to 7-Eleven looking up the shelves. The problem is, she says, is you got to drink it cold because if it gets any warmth to it, it's done. Wild Cherry Cream. It's Wild Cherry Cream. Okay, so Wild Cherry Cream Pepsi. Wow.

Throw a packet of sugar in that and you'll have to peel it off the ceiling. She's already bouncing over here. Her diabetes won't like her tonight. To give you a visual of what I see, she's doing the penguin right now. So she's basically waddling back and forth. forth in a happy, cheerful way. She's like, so yeah, she's bouncing. She's over here bouncing. Chilly Willy the big one. Gosh, I'm chilly all the time.

Here we go. I don't know why I remember that. I remember all those damn Woody Woodpecker, that era, or that group. Oh, my God. Chili Willie. Well, let's drink these things down. We're going to count it down. I do not expect Dave or Bill to chug, but I'm going to chug here. Let's chug it down. Three, two, one, go. And that is so good. All right, so smooth as Jim Beam Honey always is.

So, as mentioned, we are talking about Jean Roland. Tonight, a French director, he was born November 3rd, 1938, died at the age of 72 on December 15th, 2010, from Paris, France. What we do know of Jean Roulin was his filmography was not as large as another filmmaker that many would kind of put into the same, I guess if you were to put him in the same basket, would be Jess Franco.

And you would put these two kind of, they seem to be together when you talk about them. When you talk about Jean Rolland, for whatever reason, people bring up Jess Franco. And same with Jess Franco, people bring up Jean Rolland. Well, Jess Franco put out about 5 million movies. movies were genre land you would think put out a lot but he only put out about nine feature films so not as many films and not let's be honest all his films are not the best of whatever but you can literally

I can sit down and watch his films and pick scenes out of his movies and just say, wow, because that's what he was all about. He's all about art. He loved art. And a lot of his films were a masterful.

stroke of a pen so to speak now i was reading something in this book i got which i picked up uh dave you had seen i think jb you seen it but i picked up a few of his titles from indicator yeah these limited edition runs well they had these books inside there which i think are just glorious uh with essays and stuff jb i know you do some stuff like that sometimes with uh when you can i think they're wonderful

man they just really give you inside but what they had said in this one thing or this one article here or this essay or whatever um roll on considered himself primarily a visual artist they said first there is the image then i arrange everything around it he told a scholar so it's the image first and then You know, he arranges everything around that. So it's more about image than it is about plot. So plot was Roland's priority. Plot was not his priority.

Not in his first feature, The Rape of the Vampire, which we'll talk about, nor in the 19 other films he would go in to write and direct under his own name before his death in 2010. So it wasn't about plot. His movies are visual. They are just a stroke of genius. Would you agree, Dr. Schott? i think so i i really do i mean he's he's working he's not working with a lot of money uh you you could tell that uh like he doesn't he doesn't get very big budgets but he does what he can he tries to

And I've said this before about him. It's walking that line between art house and exploitation. And sometimes he'd wander a little far on one side, then wander a little far on the other side. Sometimes, you know, one movie would be more arthouse. The next one would be more exploitation. Sometimes he would cross the line. both ways in the same movie. But you always got the feeling that that's what he was shooting for. He was shooting for something, you know, a very visual experience. And I...

that's one of the things I love about him and the way that he can just inhabit a space, you know, where, where you, you, it's, it's like it becomes, he just explores it. Um, and, and we'll get into that with some of the movies we're going to be talking about here. tonight and it's just fascinating places.

that he'll take you to. And you know he's shooting these on location, that these are not sets, that he's picked a place for these movies and he's just going to explore them as best he can. And I think he does that in... In all of his films, I see that in pretty much all of his films. And that's that's one of the things I love about him the most. Yeah, I totally agree, too. And I'm going to head over to you, JB. I think one of the prime.

uh areas of shots that he did was a beach in normandy uh which was You'll see it in Rape of the Vampire. You will see it in multiple of his movies. The Iron Rose. That was his childhood beach. Yes. So he loved it so much that he filmed there, clearly. And it's so...

It's such a beautiful, run-down-looking beach. It doesn't look beautiful. This is not like a Riviera or anything like that. It's got these poles sticking up that look... like a rundown pier or something uh it's a rocky beach so it's nothing that would be like oh wow this is the most gorgeous but it's such a haunting beautiful set to do a scene in and most of the time in these movies there's naked women or naked men or naked women and men

going around this beach so you know you get this imagery of of these things but JB what do you think of of Jean Roland uh just initial thoughts in his filmmaking I'm I'm really a huge fan and it's not just that beach he has this ability to find he has such a great eye for ruin so he finds abandoned crypts mausoleums castles you know homes He really is drawn to things that are...

kind of being taken over by nature, I guess you could say. And he doesn't touch them up, so he's not going into these places and dusting off the mantle. He likes to shoot things as they are, and that includes broken panes of glass. bent wiring on fences and things like that he just allows his environments to be what they are and i think that that there's a real honesty and a real sincerity with that and

I became a really big fan of his, I don't know, back when Redemption started doing their re-releases. Redemption for the Roll-On stuff. It's a distribution label that did not just roll on. I think also Franco, too, and some others. Paul Nash. They served.

the purpose for these filmmakers that anchor bay served for the italians back in the day because anchor bay introduced a heck of a lot of at least uh you know western audience to lucio fulci dario argento and even if people had just seen one or one film or two films from both i mean anchor bay was really the first label to give their all

and put a lot into those early VHS releases and those clamshells that are so legendary now here. And Redemption has done that here. Now, Redemption isn't really well known for much else. They're not a huge distribution shingle.

branded any other way so they've really become closely identified with these french filmmakers and they've always seemed to do them justice because they even on the redemption releases which have been out for some time both on DVD and Blu-ray and then back to VHS I remember years ago

they have booklets in them each one has a different booklet so it's not the same thing repeated every time and they do a nice job with it but my love for roland is rooted in the beauty that's on screen that you guys have been talking so much about

And also the lack of dialogue. Yes. Because I am such a sensory viewer. Watch things based on mood. I am more likely to put in a film that's... silent or has almost no dialogue than i am to put in a film that does probably seven times out of ten because i love having the scenery in the room it's like having a moving art gallery on one side of the room while i'm working let's say doing my

work and i find that a lot of times the more i've gotten into cinema like this and the more that i've explored the silence and a lot of the real real classic old classics the more i find that dialogue seems to get in the way in in many cases and i am one who can only enjoy that for so long so it's almost like i need a palate cleanser of some roll-on films for a weekend or for a few days see i would jump in there and say the lack of dialogue led to a lack of

continuity with the story but yeah i don't like a direction i don't care about that at all that's that's not that's of zero percent concern to me i don't put in a roll-on film for a story at all And so I'm not looking for that. And I'm never in the mood for that. But if you go in not knowing. Then you're going to either love it or hate it. And that's the beauty of it. But the great thing is it's distinctive. And he's not playing by anyone else's rules.

he's not aping anyone else's cinema he's doing his own thing and i think that's i think we need more pure singular filmmakers in this world. I think we need fewer derivative filmmakers and we need more distinctive visionaries. Where you put it on their movie, whether you love it or hate it, you know it's theirs. There are very few of those. I was in a conversation with a friend about this yesterday. In our lifetime, this generation, we have Tim Burton.

You're going to know pretty much that it's a Tim Burton film if you turn it on. There aren't a whole lot of filmmakers that are that way. And it involves a real sacrifice of commercial consideration to take that route. but also the people that I deeply admire the most, like Elias Merish, who made Begotten and Shadow of the Vampire, for example. He's one of the...

Most recent examples in this very small club of filmmakers who are willing to create completely outside the framework of the industry. And in his case, in Mary's case, he and I became friends and he talks about he he's.

happier making film or making uh car commercials in germany and then he would be working in the film industry so he just walked away from it wow he just simply walked away he's like there's there is no marketplace for these things and no one wants to talk to you when you make movies that aren't like other movies and so to the point of roll on uh i i really really love just being drenched in atmosphere i like a vibe on screen

And I love misty nights and I like flowing gowns on women and I like cemeteries and I like rusted out metal and broken panes of glass. The only contemporary filmmaker that I would say is close and he will admit and has admitted many times that he's heavily influenced by Roland is Chris Alexander, who was the editor of Fangoria for.

a while where when i was there and is now working at full moon in development and also runs their delirium magazine but chris is a filmmaker too and he has a number i think maybe seven or eight movies that he's done now and they are pretty much all very much in this vein it's like contemporary roll-on so it's more contemporary settings but chris is

is one to also linger in rundown places, let shots run on for a very long time. It's a lot of beautiful women wandering in the woods and emerging from swamps and stuff like that.

i just love it i really love it and i wish there was more film out there like this i wish there was more contemporary stuff that is willing to just paint us a picture yeah and not have to the bumpers on the on the bowling alley and just talk us through everything like it's okay to let things exist in the head and the heart and i think that's one of the things that the roll on films really encourage us all to do so i love him

yeah i'm kind of in that same boat and i think another director i would think of would be robert eggers i think you know a robert eggers film and i am a huge such a fan of his and it's all like you said it's imagery you take a movie like Or something like The Lighthouse. I mean, some people call it a bore. Some people say it's movies. And I'm okay with people saying that. But for me, visually, I'm just enthralled. I can watch The Lighthouse on repeat because that movie just spoke.

to me in a way of a visionary and i was just like wow you know i was blown away with it uh so so i'm kind of that way with john yeah and it's uh one of my favorite I guess it's not really even considered recent anymore. Films that fits in the same category, I would say, is 2017's A Ghost Story from David Lowery. And that movie...

I don't know if I've talked about it much on the show, but that is the most moving motion picture I've ever seen in my life. Fascinating. It's absolutely fascinating. The where it goes and how. comes back around and oh man there's there's almost no words spoken in it there's one scene at a party where these guys are talking and that's about it the rest and the rest of the conversation you get in in subtitle

Because and there's no like there's not even any words. I mean, I'm thinking of like this one conversation that happens between like the houses. And then, you know, yeah, I. that is that is an amazing film and that goes perfectly to what you're talking about of just letting letting the pictures tell the story yeah and it's a it's a rumination on existence and the footprint that we leave here and it's a movie that

So moves me that I buy when it goes on sale on Amazon, I buy multiple copies. I'll buy like five at a time.

oh wow because i have found myself over the years since i first saw it back in 2017 i can't tell you i probably sent a dozen copies of that out to people oh that's great and that could be for usually it comes after a conversation with someone who's struggling in some way it's someone who needs who's reevaluating their place in this world or whatever and sometimes it's just film and i am talking it up

And I want someone to see it so badly. And so I buy them a copy. I send it to them or I just pull it from my stack and send it on. But I really think it's vital in my mind to turn people on to a movie like this because there aren't many movies that give you.

the credit to do the work internally and a ghost story absolutely does that it's much headier territory than we're talking about here with roland for sure it's a not the same kind of approach But it is similar in its lack of dialogue and how it doesn't take us by the hand and walk us through anything.

It's nothing but encouraging us to consider everything in our lives. I own it, but I still have not opened it up and watched it yet. And I keep saying that's a movie that I need to watch because I've heard the same things that you're talking about. So that's one I will definitely.

watch probably it's brilliant it really is it's it's it's brilliant i recently connected with david the director and writer and um also his uh cinematographer has a photo i know it was the think it was the cinematographer who me who released a photo book from behind the scenes of the making the film some years ago and they sent me one and uh anyway david's gonna be on my show as soon as he's wrapping up work on a film right now

As soon as he's done with that, I'm going to have him on. I'm so excited for that conversation because I've been waiting years to talk to him about this movie. We'll have to post that when it comes out. I can't wait. Let's head over to Bill. This is your first taste, I believe, of Jean Roland. It was my first taste with an extended amount of movies. I had seen a couple previously. Okay, cool, cool. So your thoughts, because I know you come from a different cloth, and I'm not saying that.

in a negative way because I know you're a gore hound. I know you love action and those things that a lot of us do, right? So I'm just curious your take on genre line and what it's like to have sat down and watched. I am going to give a take that a minimum of 50% of our audience will have, if not more. Out of the four of them, I'm going to be blunt. I found three of them boring. They're slow. There's no guidance.

There is no structure of a story other than tits and blood, which normally I don't mind, but there's just so much of it. One of the stories I read about one of the movies was there was no printed dialogue. They made it up as they went. And that leads to, there's some beautiful shots of countryside. Yes, your imagination can go where.

But I could sit there for 25 minutes and nothing has happened. Oh, there's a girl in a negligee running in the forest. Oh, there's a girl in a castle in a BDSM outfit. But what the hell happened in the story? I don't know. I had watched three of them and I was like, I'm done.

And then I got to the one I wanted to watch and I loved it. Absolutely loved it. Go in knowing if you're looking for a slasher, you ain't getting it. If you're looking for sinister, you're not finding it here. But if you appreciate. Making the most of your abilities within the restriction of a budget and getting the most out of it Roland was amazing. Nobody could show off the features of their characters better. Nobody could show the countryside better.

Nobody could put it in a gothic structure with the setting. Wonderful. And I actually think the actors who were involved did the best they could. But the lack of direction is the same reason why I'm not a fan of Suspiria. It just goes nowhere.

the i i love taking it and i love movies and i love watching good directors you guys have mentioned you know robert eggers when i think of him describe another director it's jodorowsky it's just all over the place and that's that's my take i'm not saying i dislike it because there are very much elements within the films i really do like and the one i did i really did like but there was one of them if i wasn't doing it for the episode i would have turned it off

Yeah, and I think that's where we is, because I know Bill. He goes down Tubi hell, which is like some of the pure shittiest movies I've ever seen. Tubi gets a lot of crap. They're shit movies. But I can watch. some goofy alien or something before i'm going to watch a half-naked woman falling in a trap and dancing for 10 minutes right and that's that's his take and my take i would be all about that and i would leave the seed people away uh but

There again, that's a different take, and I'm sure there's people that are going to be right there with Bill saying, yeah, Bill, you're right. And I will never fault that at all. So for me, I think one thing we need to know with Jean Roulin is he's not only just a... filmmaker. He's not only just a artiste, right, JB? I think one thing that we got to remember too with Jean Roulin in general, it's not just him. It's a lot of French.

There's a lot of French filmmakers. There is a style that was produced out of the makings of French filmmakers. They seem to have a, and I don't, I can't explain why.

But if you go through filmmaking and you look at French... a lot of the french directors of the the period of the 50s the 60s the 70s and you take these directors they all had similar visions they all had similar it's about the art it's about the imagery more than plots and whatnot there are plots i will argue with some of that those points where bill says there's not any coherency i disagree with a lot of that there's a vague outline

But you just need to take another gummy. There are moments in there that you just got to. Or maybe one less gummy. Or one less one. But as you're watching the film, I found myself seeing a lot of French directors sort of in that same vein. It continues, Greg. I mean, even if you look at... high tension from 2003 yeah which is one of my favorite theatrical experiences of all time sitting in a theater watching that with a stunned room who left in absolute silence right at the end of it

There's almost no dialogue in that film. And I know people do complain about the twist, blah, blah, blah. But it's a wonderfully made movie. And it's so intense. And you can tell stories without having to be led around. And it doesn't have to be obvious either.

So I do think, to your point, Greg, that French cinema has artistry ingrained in it in a way that's very different than what many of us have grown up on in the West. Absolutely. And I know that has to be with the... the amount of cinema they were able to see in their...

territory you know because we here you know we've got certain things that we're able to watch they're not able to see so i know there's there's those things too uh but i do love watching these films so what we're going to do is we got four films picked out We're going to go in chronological order. And I purposely picked the one I picked tonight for two reasons. One reason being I had never seen this one. And Sackett, of all, was because it was his first feature film directorial.

debut other than short story stuff right so his first feature film and that's the reason I chose us and I want to go to the beginning I want to watch it from here and then we'll go from there so we're starting in 1969 we're going to go to 1970 1975, 1979. And I think after watching the four films, we'll get a good take of where his filmmaking went. I think we each chose a film that are different in takes. I think

Dave, you will agree, you have said this numerous times, that vampiric side of genre-lands filmmaking are not the best. It's typically the movies that are outside. I connect to them less than I do some of his other films. Um, you know, and I'm not, I, but I enjoy them. I mean, I like, I like them. It's just for some reason. And, you know, when I first heard about genre land, I can't remember what I was reading, but like, oh, he's.

His big thing was was like lesbian vampires. And that's where it's OK. So those were the first few I checked out. And I'm like, oh, well, that was interesting. But then I started to see some of the other ones. And we're going to be talking about tonight, as a matter of fact. And I connected with them more like I had a I had a stronger connection with them than I did with some of the ones he was supposedly known for.

Right. So what we're going to do is we're going to go in this chronologically. So I'll be going first with the first feature I do own. And I did mention that to the guys. So I'll do it once again. I do own the indicator. limited edition blu-ray and there's 4k i recommend getting these if nothing else uh they're under 30 they they're chopped full of special features they got

book essays in them. They look beautiful. They're hand numbered up to a certain amount. Some of them are only like 4,000 copies or whatever. So I'm telling you, they do an amazing job. Dave, you'll be excited to know that they just do a pre-order jb check this out bill of the iron rose which is one of the movies we're talking about tonight so that's their newer release that they're going to do which i'm super excited about that so anyway so we're going to get into this

And what we're going to do is the first film, I'll go ahead and introduce it. So first one we're going to be talking about tonight is 1968. And I said 69, but IMDb has this 1968. And the name of the movie is Le Vieux du Vampire, or The Rape of the Vampire. And there is a... duly noted stigma around this movie and there'll be a reasoning behind it first of all let's go ahead and talk about the synopsis of it after a

Co-analyst unsuccessfully tries to convince four sisters that they are not 200-year-old vampires. The queen of the vampires promulgates the cause of the undead. That's IMDB's dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb synopsis. So basically, what we have here is a two-part movie. We have part one, which literally, at the end of about a 30-minute segment, it comes up with a finale.

and then we get credits yes i can give the credits i'm like wait what wait i just and then someone emerges from a cave yes and there was and there was a reason for that which i guess we'll get into great yeah we'll definitely get into it so uh part one we'll call it the rape of the vampire uh we do have these three individuals that come to try to and this is shot in black and white by the way and it looks gorgeous this movie is freaking

I love this movie. But anyway, so we got the Rape of the Vampire. We got these three individuals that show up to try to talk these four sisters out of being vampires. They say you're not vampires. And it's Tomas Brigitte.

and mark and when they show up we see these four women one of them is blind quote unquote and one of them is afraid of light and the other two are just weird sisters and they're gladly dressed it so you do see a lot of nudity in these movies listeners so we will go ahead and pre-forewarn you on that but the whole story is is mark and brigitte and thomas coming and they're trying to make especially

one in particular and that is thomas is trying to make these women understand you are not vampires you are not There's other reasons behind this. You're being controlled. You're being taught certain things. So these women are out here still believing. Are they? Are they not vampires? They go out into this weird field with this weird... totem-looking statue of, I'm assuming, of Beelzebub or somebody.

And they go out to talk to this thing, which we found out some part of the movie that there's some old man sitting back there trying to talk through that to them and they don't see him. You will do what I say. And they think the statues talking to him is really old. man standing behind it going, it's kind of like the Wizard of Oz. It's kind of like the guy behind the curtain.

Which I thought was hilarious. But anyways, so we see this movie and we see these girls trying to say, no, we are vampires. And there is very to zero much dialogue in this movie. There's just not a lot in it. But when there is.

It's incoherent, I'll be honest. But the first 30 minutes of this movie is really good. It's really strong. I like the imagery in it. We see some arguing. We've got Tomas trying to... plead with these women like look at the sky look at the cloud you know look at the open the window look at the light you're not a vampire and then some other things start happening so i'm not going to spoil this movie because i do want people to watch it uh but it's set up in

that section and then when that ends and we get the closing credits and we think the movie's over then we get a whole nother hour of this movie and it's a little different some of the characters that died in the beginning are back there's some weird things So let's get into the plot of why that happened, okay? So the reasoning behind this was Jean Roulin was reached out to do a short film. He did a short film.

which was in his contract. But then he decides we're going to make a feature length. So we got to add some stuff, right? We got to make this longer. So they go into filming more stuff. Now, problem is there's noted in here that three days into shoot, lost the script.

There's no script. Whoops. I don't know where the script went. Now what we're going to do, we're filming. It was sitting on that rock over there. It was. Maybe it was over on the beach in Normandy and it just kind of floated into the water. I don't know. there was there when high tide came it was there so anyway so then there's no scripts and now we have a director who has no script a uh set of actors who have no dialogue to go by and

I think that's the reason behind a lot of the movie not having dialogue. The movie just goes back and forth with the three trying to tell them you're not vampires. And then we find out maybe they are because there is a bite. There is somebody that starts having... Some...

ill effects from this bite. And it's just really fun. I do love some of the scenes in this movie. I think some of the imagery at the beach in Normandy is awesome. I think the, I don't want to call it a castle. It's not a castle, but this This abandoned, run-down building that they're filming in is amazing. It's like a warehouse or something like that. Broken glass. You got shutters where the doors open and everything, but it's really decrepit looking.

inside and it's a perfect setting for something vampiric or even something black and white. It just has such a presence.

about it as much as an actor it's a it's a presence and i love that so i love those scenes i love the scenes of the uh vampiric women doing the things that they're doing so there's a lot of good things about this movie now the things that do happened in this movie that I do dislike is some of the sludge where it just really goes back and forth with weird directions and I'm kind of like a little like what is going on.

I don't know if he really knew exactly what he wanted. And let's say in 40 minutes into this movie, we've got something happened and then it switches gears and then it comes back. It's just a lot of that. So there are some sludge moments in this movie that really makes zero sense.

But I think if you just go into this movie, watching it for cinema's sake, watching it to see a gentleman's first... movie and in 1968 when this film released guys i was reading in the essay book there was uh in the month of may when this movie released they had a freeze they had a may in 68 boy that

was a pretty crazy time in paris something happened to where they literally shut down cinema right so there's nothing well yeah that was the rev that was the um all of the riots yes And the funny thing was, this was the only movie to release. This was the last one to release. So it's the only one that they have. So people flock to the cinema because of these riots and because of what was going on. Okay, this is the film. Well, the people go in to watch the film and they hated it.

They're literally threatening Jean Rolland, according to the essay. They're throwing stuff at the screen. You know, they're there. Oh, that's it. That's their screen. They did that to Jean Renoir with like one of his classic films. Who was it on Sheen Andalou? Louis Boonwell? He went to...

his premiere with stones in his pocket, ready to throw them back at people who were going to throw things at him. So I think that's just kind of a French reaction to film. Yeah. So this happened and it become one of his most successful films. because there was no other films up against it. But with that said, after watching it, I'll be honest, man, I really enjoyed this movie. And it's one of those that I love the black and whiteness of it.

I think the, the characters themselves, a little hokey, but there, there's, uh, attractive people. There's vampiric things going on. So you do have that. Some of the, uh, there's, there's one scene where the girl. has blood on her eyes like she's...

went blind again or something happened to her eyes. And that's, I mean, I'll be honest, this is a very low budget film. So if you're looking for practical effects, you've got zero, but what you do get is somebody trying to make a damn film. And I'm proud of Jean Roulin for giving us at least.

an attempt I wish it would have just been the 30 minute movie I'll be honest but overall I had a lot of fun with this one and I really want listeners to just go into this with an open mind and see what goes from there but i'm gonna pass this around to each one and we'll we'll say if you've seen it if you have if you want to give a quick you know a description or whatever you thought of it uh but man i'm really enjoying this movie i'm coming in at a 7.5 on it and i just really i'm i'm glad

I own it, and I would definitely watch this one again. So let's pass it around. Let's go to you, Dave. Thoughts? Did you see The Rape of the Vampire? If you did, what did you say? I did. I did watch The Rape of the Vampire. I have The Redemption. Blu-ray. I'm pretty sure I have all of the Redemption Jean Roland Blu-rays. But I had not seen this before. This was a first time watch for me as well. I assumed I had seen this.

But I think I was confusing it with the nude vampire. Oh, yeah. And then I said, wait, this is black and white. No, I haven't seen this one before. This is one of the things I like about Jean Roland is that I need to see it again. Because you can't really, especially this movie, I think, maybe even more than some of the others, you don't grasp everything that he's going for right away.

And I think a second watch is would open things up a bit. Now, yes, there are things I really like. I think the shots on that beach. awesome great yes i do i think i think and you're seeing the the seeds of what would become his his style that would eventually grow into his style That's what he's giving you in this movie. Yes, there's nudity. So there's definitely, this is like I was saying, he's walking that line between exploitation and art house. And you see both of them.

prevalently in this film but i have to watch it again yeah i'm even hesitant to give it a rating if i were going to give it a rating i would say probably seven out of ten um because i and i didn't even mind where it went later on um when you had that that sort of the what who was it it was like the queen Oh, I didn't even talk about that. Thank you, Dave, because the second part we introduced to the queen of the vampires who comes rolling up on the beach of Normandy here in some...

You know how they used to carry him on the shoulders? Yes, right. I always think of Madeline Kahn from History of the World Part 1 when I see that, but that's just me. I totally forgot about it. And that's when it becomes really incoherent because we're like, where did the queen of vampires come from out of the ocean? Like what happened here? But anyways, but go ahead, Dave. I'm sorry. No, no. So I liked some of that, but that's where it starts to get.

The one part, and I want to see it again because I didn't connect with it as much, was the laboratory stuff. That's my biggest negative. That took it into an area that didn't interest me as much as the other things that were going on. But again, it was a... first time watch and that could change when I watch it again.

Yeah, I appreciated it more when it was in the beach, when it was in the house. But when they started doing the laboratory stuff, I was kind of like you, too. I kind of checked out a little bit there. But overall, fun stuff, man. It's almost like trying to... put a scientific definition on something that seems more mystical through like a lot of the rest of the film. And, uh, but, but again, like I said, it was a first time watch and I do need to see it again.

Absolutely. Well, cool. That's my take. All right, so let's head over to you, Bill. What's your take on, or did you, let me ask first, did you see Rape of the Vampire? And if you did, what was your take on it? Yeah, I saw it. Now, I'm giving this preface for the listeners. I had to watch it in French because for anybody out there that doesn't own them.

They are not easy to find with subtitles. So, fortunately, I do have some French in my background, and I took it through University of Montreal Canadiens fan, born in Quebec. So I was able to get through some of it. But, like, for example, Jason Wedgington, whatever.

no problem watching these although it's parisian french versus quebecois so well it's so it's okay but so there were parts you couldn't quite get i i couldn't quite get every little intricacy of all the dialogue but i could get the general sense gotcha I'm trying to be the voice of me and the regular people and be respectful to those that enjoyed this. At times, this movie was a slog for me. It really was.

You can tell they lost the script after three days. I wrote down at times this has the feel of a student film. It does. That's kind of what it was. It was his first film. Did you see Dark Star, John Carpenter's first film? That's a great movie as well. Yeah, I did see it.

You know, I will say on a positive side, and this is true that I find for most of his, as an audiophile, I love the scores of his film. He always has a good score, you know, that even if there isn't the most entertaining event happening on the screen. the music gets you in now i don't know if there was somebody that he paid to make that music or if it was just uh a royalty free music i'm not sure or like classical music that nobody owns the rights to or what have you but the score is always good

I've never seen a black and white film with more tits. Never. So, and that includes a few body films. So this has got that in there. If you're squeamish about seeing nipples or there might, there might be a couple, there might be a couple of crown international films. You might want to catch up. You know, if seeing a penis bothers you, don't watch any of these films. Nothing like a bloody fuck on the beach when you're near death.

Did you see those two going at it on the beach? They're covered in blood. That was a good scene, though, honestly. it was funny i actually got a kick i got a kick out of that scene but but there are times where this to me was painfully slow and i i i will refrain from my uh mark until the end uh but Yeah, out of the four, this is my fourth. Okay. JV, how about you on this one? Did you get a chance to watch The Rape, or have you seen The Rape of the Vampire?

yeah i've seen it and i the first half of it i like a lot better than the second half i i enjoy all there are a lot of visual elements i like in the movie but the second half i find to the to the negative it does drag on a little bit long and but again this is my memory viewing and i haven't seen it in a while

But I do recall liking the first half better. And although I did find the Queen, the visuals of her emerging and all that, I thought that was pretty cool. I mean, she's almost like a Viking ship on the beach moving with these giant sail, these white... fluttering sails behind her and all of that i thought it was pretty striking visuals but

Out of all these that we're talking about here, I would agree with Bill in the assessment that this is my least favorite of those that we're discussing tonight. But I mean, it's his first film. And there are elements in this film that are carried forth into the others. In fact, the Iron Cross is in this film. The Iron Cross is in this film. And there are other... little touches that you see so he was finding his footing as a filmmaker i didn't know that about them losing the script but sometimes

that's kind of the best way to be forced to play by instinct and so it should feel like a student film because what is a student film it's someone who isn't familiar or burdened with the parameters of contemporary or not contemporary but more like commercial filmmaking and i think that's what he was clearly going for so considering that they lost the script at some point again i had no idea i think that they made something interesting

with the time and money and arrangements that they had made but i do enjoy the first half better than the second i'm just amazed it was only one copy of the script So the actors didn't even have a copy anyway. I'm guessing it was Roland's copy. There was no backup zip drive.

No backup zip drive? No, but I'm sure there were ways to... photocopy or something to get extra copies of the script that's that's kind of uh telling you in its own right that there was only one copy of the script because normally the actors have their copy and and assistant directors have their copy and you know then on and so on but um that there was only one copy that shows you right there that this is that that you know that

There were a lot of people were going to be sort of flying by the seat of their pants because what are they going to pass this around before each scene that would have taken forever? Well, I'm really curious where in the process Roland found out that. He had to do the second half to extend it or whatever. Like, did he know that?

No, no, I think he was making a short film. I think he started making a short film and decided to make it a feature. That's what it was. He was only asked to do a short film. He did that. And then he decided to, hey, I'm going to make a feature length. I don't think they extended the budget. He did it on the same budget. Oh, no, he's got the same. It was like 500 francs, which I don't know how much that turns out. I don't know how. 500 francs? Really? Just 500 francs? Yeah.

I think it's 500 or 500,000. May 500,000. May 500,000. May 500,000. Oh, 500,000. I was going to say 500 francs. I think it's 50 francs for a cup of coffee. That's pretty amazing. 500,000. Okay. Probably enough for 10 cups of coffee. But, I mean, this is very much out of the. Corman Poe you've got the castle let's use it for a couple films kind of yeah

And he did do the most he could with what he had. And most of these actors, and you'll see that throughout his filmmaking, his 19 films, he didn't have a core of actors. He did use a lot of people that were non-actors. So, you know, it's not like he's getting a list actors to come over here and they're going to do their, you know, he's doing everything under what you would consider to be low budget.

you know guerrilla warfare he's getting kids from the local uh little theater well i mean there's some where he had gotten some strippers nearby to do some scenes and and i mean they're doing what they do and it works in the movie so i'm I give them A for effort for sure. But yeah, this feels fun. I just say it's fun. The first half of this film is great. And then it kind of goes down from there. If I would have just watched the 30 minute part of this movie and that was it.

I would be like an eight to a nine on this film and would have been like, you know, chef kiss to the sky. You've done a tremendous job. But then we get into the. It would have been more interesting if he didn't go off in various directions. If he stayed in the one direction with the queen.

um and and didn't introduce and then like those three characters coming back into it right um like you were saying who was it it was it was uh brigitte mark and um thomas yeah and bringing them back into i don't know i think it i maybe it just maybe he was extending it out a little too far because that you like you were saying that first part is 30 minutes well you get another hour plus after that so he took like the 30 minute idea and doubled it

for you know to to extend it and i think he was i i think like he was sort of grasping maybe a little bit again i have to watch it again but he was sort of saying okay well maybe these two this these characters can do this and And this one we could go over here. And I think if he had stayed with the queen.

And sort of focused on that a little more. And that is a big portion of the second half already. It's not like that's a small portion. That's a big portion of the second half already. But maybe it should have been even more and a little less of the other things. Yeah.

And we'll move on from this one and get ready to go to the second one. But one of the main scenes I did really enjoy, and I'll end it with this, was the scene where I believe it was Thomas is trying to convince the one girl because she has a fear of crosses.

They actually all do. And he takes all the crosses around the house, around the inside, outside to have all these wooden crosses and everything. He just starts building the fire. I thought that was great. I thought, wow. Really strong. I like what he did with the... the blind girl. Yes, yes. Like sort of challenging her on that. I like that scene as well. Yeah.

Yeah, great stuff. So there you go. I'm coming in, like I said, at a 7.5. I definitely want to see it again. I'm with you, Dave. I've only seen it one time, so I'm really looking forward to watching it again, getting into all the features. I did not watch, I'll be honest, the bonus features they had in here.

the commentary stuff like that so i'll try to get into that in the future i saw an interview one of the things they have on on the redemption is an interview with an introduction by genre land Which they have for a lot of the films, if not all of them, in the Redemption Blu-ray. I know they have it for several. I don't know if it's on all of them. And it's just really cool to have Roland. You know, there's like a, I think like a 20 minute documentary.

on the film. They have a conversation with Roland talking about the making of it. Um, I, I just like, cause he's no longer with us and I love having access to, to his insights, uh, into all of these movies. Totally agree. So we're going to move on to the next. What I'm going to do is play a voicemail here, and then we'll get into our Sacket feature review, which will be the Iron Rose, which I think is yours. Correct, JB?

Yeah. All right, cool. So let's go to this voicemail, and then we'll come back, and we'll head over to Justin Beam there. The great Pearl Day build there from Northern California, Colin. All right. We're talking about Jean Roland. Gotta tell you, I must confess, I was looking at his filmography thinking I might have seen something of his. I have never seen a single genre-on film at all. I know there's a lot of people in...

who love French cinema out there are probably going, oh, you're the American. I fought in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of blueberries. Yeah, well, that may be true, but... Anyway, yeah, I've never seen any of his films. So I wanted to ask you, ask all of you, And because looking at his filmography, he's done a lot of vampire films, and God knows I love vampires, so I'm surprised I've never seen any of his films.

So I would like to ask all of you if you can recommend where I should start. If I was going to go down the genre line filmography, which one do you think would hook me first? And I would start there and go from there. All right. Hope you guys have a great show, and I'll talk to you next time. Take care. Bye-bye.

darren coming in hot great question and here's my take and and we'll go from there so it depends on what you're wanting to see if you're wanting to go into the vampiric uh side of his films um There are some better than others, I'll be honest. I'm a fan of Lips of Blood. I like that film. We clearly just talked about the Rape of the Vampire. I wouldn't have probably started you with that one.

would probably be one I would try to tell you to kind of overlook, I guess you would say, as far as being a first feature to look at. But I would look at maybe... I don't know. Let's throw it out. Dave, where would you start him at as far as... If it was genre land in general, I'd say The Greats of Death would be where I would tell you to start or The Iron Rose. It's one of those things where I hate to answer it because we have more movies coming up.

Let's hold off. Let's do that. Let's hold off until we get done. I think if you listen, Darren, if you listen to the end of the episode, you'll get your answer. I would give him one that we won't be discussing today, and it was the first one that I saw of his, and that was the Demoniacs. Okay, I could see that. And you know what? And JB, I was going to ask you this, but the Demoniacs has my favorite in a genre-land film. What do you mean the beach that's in everyone? What's that?

the beach that's in everyone well that ship graveyard oh yeah yeah oh i love that i loved i was looking at that i was like mike how did to find that and i don't know if that was in ever ever in any other film no i can't recall i don't i mean it could have been and i just haven't seen it i haven't seen every french film made but what an amazing

set piece that was and I just I brought I remember bringing it back and watching it again right in the middle of the movie I was so blown away but I mean you've got like supernatural elements you've got sexual elements you've got you know actually a decent storyline to that one it's it's

an interesting film i liked i like the demoniacs as well yeah yeah all right so let's go ahead uh darren thank you for the call and stay tuned we'll we'll definitely you know recircle back to that and answer your question at the end of this so we don't kind of step on people's uh

reviews here tonight so that we're going to head over to you jb i know uh bear with justin because he is like i said battling this respiratory no no no hey no we hope you you know thank you for being here and i hope you feel better soon absolutely So we're going to head over to Justin to let him do his take on the Iron Rose, and we'll go from there. Iron Rose is, I think, my favorite of his films.

and it's the one that i certainly find myself visiting most often not shocking after hearing what i talked about earlier where it's like this this film is almost completely without dialogue and but it's a story of this couple they go on a they go cycling and they end up at this cemetery and um this is a much simpler story than what you were talking about in rape of the vampire for sure yeah and again probably why i like it

the best but this they end up in this cemetery and they end up going into this crypt and in there they make love and they eventually emerge and it's night time by the time they get out and when they're out They can't find their way out of the cemetery, and they're basically trapped in there. And the woman starts to sort of break down.

time is passing here and as the stress is ratcheting up of being trapped in this space and it ends up i mean i don't want to spoil what happens at the end of it but it it ends up kind of with a surprising situation back in a mausoleum it's a beautiful beautiful movie it has some of my favorite imagery in his entire filmography The stuff at the train station, which is toward the beginning of the film, is so beautiful. This gigantic black steam engine cutting through the fog.

And as she's walking next to it, it's unforgettable imagery in that. And I love everything in the cemetery, the mausoleum. This is the cemetery, by the way, where Jules Verne is buried. This is a play, and they had to... They had to get special permission to shoot there, and they could only shoot at night because they didn't want it to be real visible to people. It's a remote cemetery anyway.

relatively remote so but they the people the city or whoever didn't want to have them there during the day shooting stuff and so they had to make the best of it and that um so the stuff that's not nighttime is earlier in the film and i i just feel like it even though it is largely dialogue free it moves at a good pace it's much shorter than what you were talking about with rape of the vampire

And I think it's maybe just a hair over an hour. I mean, it's feature length, but it's just feature length. But it feels like a perfect length to me. And there are a lot of moments that are given space. They're given air.

in this film where he allows the scene a shot to play out for longer than what uh you know it's it's certainly not a fast cut to the edit on this or to how it was shot everything has a very deliberate pace from front to back with it and there are lots of little moments which he touched on with his first feature where it's moments that are symbolic

that are just sort of striking a chord in many films wouldn't have made sense happening. But in this kind of situation, it does. And you're also dealing with this with the woman's breakdown as she's going through the fear of being trapped in this place there's also this element of what's real and what isn't to a certain extent at play too

But above all else, I mean, you just put this on, you could freeze the frame at any point, hit print, send it to a printer, and you'd have a beautiful piece of art for your wall. It is wall-to-wall beautiful imagery. it's a great story that takes place in a setting that is not common i mean for an entire film basically to take place in a cemetery in within crypts

and discoveries within crypts, reveals and things. I really love it a lot. I think it is the perfect length. And this would be one of them that I would point to. if people are willing to approach roll on film with an understanding that you're not going to get a real linear story if you really want to dive into the visual side of his filmmaking and not be tasked with

having to deal with jaunty songs being sung by people dancing around and stuff, this is a good one to start with. So that would be my answer to the call, would be Iron Rose. And I know that might, for everybody, might not be the best place to start. Yeah, I'm a huge fan and we'll pass it around. I'm a huge fan of this one as well. I've seen it a few times. And there's one image that I know this is going to sound whatever, but there is a scene where the lead actress.

is she basically goes down into their inside, like you said, Justin, they went down inside the crypt, whatever you want to call it. What would you call that again? Like the... Yeah, it's a crypt mausoleum. Yeah, like the crypt mausoleum. And the lead actress does go down in there. And the scene that I love is her standing there, and I think it's Francois Pascal is the woman's name. She plays La Femme. She's standing there completely nude with her arms kind of crossed over her breasts.

I don't know why that's such a stark image. I think because of it being in a crepid place of death. and then you got this woman who is is fully nude as you come into birth you know into this world nude and she's kind of sitting there with the arms around i just think it's a really cool i think pearl and i would like that would be a cool like poster i think it would be awesome to have

have that image up on a wall in a painting or some kind of poster. I don't know why it's just a really good image. Um, I like, I mean, that's part of the thing here. And that's part of the thing with all of his film is it's. And to the nudity end, I don't remember who it was who was laughing about it earlier, like sex on a beach when you're dying or whatever. He seems to really revel in putting people as exposed.

as they can be in cold situations and scenarios, in lifeless environments. So the essence of life within sort of the... within a place that we shouldn't be. And that's to your point on that shot that you're talking about, Greg. It's very much that. I mean, that's not how you would normally see a person presented in that kind of a place.

People who go to cemeteries, it's usually for a funeral, and they're very overdressed, and they're formally dressed and things like that. And so he's breaking that down. And I also admire the willingness of the actors in all of his movies to go wherever he wants to lead them to. Because a lot of this seems so uncomfortable. I think it was in Rape of the Vampire where there was... All the stuff on that rocky beach.

Wasn't that Reaper the Vampire? Yeah, where the couples are rolling around on this rocky beach, frolicking as though it's sand. It's putting people in places where they wouldn't normally go. And as an aficionado... of abandoned spaces and closed down amusement parks and stuff and all of that. I mean, that kind of imagery really appeals to me. I'm also fascinated by what you found in that scene.

yeah for sure and then there's images of the cemetery itself when they first arrived that i thought were great and the iron rose at the beginning that she finds at the water i thought was awesome so uh good stuff here let's go to you uh dave what you got on this one Yeah, this is one. Jean Relent had called this. I saw an interview with him on the disc. He said it's his strangest movie. And I do agree with him with that.

um and and like we're saying it doesn't have much of a story it has two people visit a graveyard they get lost they're looking for the exit at night um unlike other Jean Merlin films. It's not violent. It's not particularly violent anyway. And aside from what you mentioned with her arms crossed in a dream sequence, it doesn't have a lot of nudity or sex. And yet I found it absolutely spellbinding.

I was so into this movie. And I think part of it is that when it gets to night in that cemetery, it takes on almost a... like a supernatural quality just by being that cemetery you have these gothic headstones stretched as far as you can see and it it it takes on even without Just being there at night gives it that supernatural quality. And you know that there's not really anything different than it is in the daytime, but you feel like there is. And the fact that they can't get out.

This is almost like you're almost approaching like Blair Witch territory here with the fear and the dread. You feel that coming over these characters at first. And then Francois Pascal. um who's stunningly gorgeous and i think that's part because i i think of that exact same image you do greg with her with her arms crossed down in that in that crypt or um she sort of falls under the spell of this cemetery

Right. And while the guy is anxious to get out, she wants to stay like she's almost connected with it, which brings another bit of supernatural to it. Yeah, it's it is an unusual movie. And it is it is a hard one to recommend. But I find that with a lot of Roland's like like Bill was saying, if you're not, you know, you have to go in knowing. But for me, it's not my favorite Roland.

But it's top three. I mean, this is one that I can go back to again. And and it just I think it's one where you get you feel the the the. the fear of not being able to get out of this cemetery that just takes on a different feeling at night. I think every cemetery is going to take on a different feeling at night. But for some reason, this one particular.

with those headstones and how old it is and just, yeah, I, I love this movie as well. How would you like to do this? Uh, take this movie and Mikhail Sova, uh, Sophie. The Cemetery Man, put both of those together. I think that would make a hell of a double feature. That would be a really very cool double feature. Two very different movies, of course.

But that would be a great double feature. Just the cemetery alone, man. That would be freaking awesome, man. Yep. So good stuff. All right, so let's head over to you, Bill. What do you got on this one, the Iron Rose? Did you get a chance to watch? Yeah, I watched. And again, this is one I had to translate with, but this is also one where the lack of dialogue benefited. Yeah, for sure. There wasn't a lot, but it really, I mean, between what I picked out.

and the actions of the characters, you really did need a lot of dialogue for this one. I mean, this one, of all the films I watched, I didn't mind this one. I gave this one a 6.5 out of 10. You know, this, from what I understand, this was his first film without vampires. So he was in a bit of uncharted water. Who goes on a date to a railroad cemetery? What a charmer this guy is. Yeah, I think they were just looking to...

They left out reception and they were looking for a place that they could be alone. I think they'd be pretty alone in the cemetery. My profile on the LOTC dating database would include wanting to go to a cemetery in an abandoned train station.

so anybody out there listening looking looking to picnic in an open in an open crypt picnic over a broken headstone let's go for it honey and if you bring a clown even better oh that was one of my points why is there a clown wandering through the cemetery because you don't know what's real and what's not right oh so it's an upper level it's a it's a higher level thinking here yeah what i do love about this film though there's a great gothic atmosphere and i like a lot of it that's shot at night

I think the ambiance really adds to this. And there is no doubt this film was influenced by Night of the Living Dead, Return of the Living Dead. There's... There's an obvious to that on this. Actually, I put Return of the Living Dead. Did they get their cemetery dance idea from this? Because there's so much dancing in the cemetery with the girl. Yeah, I enjoyed this one. It became a survival film, ultimately. And so there's a cool atmosphere. It becomes an adventure survival.

Where is it going? I got hooked in by the characters. Here's what I write down. Let's have sex in a pit of bones around after he slapped me. He gets slapped around and then screws in it. Such a cool scene. Really? Yeah, but it's very morbid. I mean, it's still really good. But you know those were real. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. You think John put in fake ones now? I can see it in the script.

Take off your top. Lie around. Oh, you're three inches from bones. Now, here's my final takeaway from this film. You know the one thing I loved in this film? The turtlenecks. When are they coming back in style? I haven't worn a turd since high school. I don't know. I don't know that I'm anxious for turtlenecks to come back. If you can get yourself warmer with that extra two inches on your neck, yeah, I'll take it. But I don't think you can buy a turtleneck now, could you?

i'm sure you can i'm sure you can yeah you can probably still buy you can probably still buy brady bunch bell bottoms i mean yeah you can't walk into jc pennies and say could i give me a turtleneck you could probably buy hairy back shirts of bill i mean they're probably out there somewhere i don't know I don't know. I don't usually shop at JCPenney. That's for me to know and you to find out. Oh, no, no, no. I don't need to find out. No, no, no, no, no.

So I give this six and a half, which is a fairly high praise for me for this kind of film. Yeah, look for a cameo from Jean Roulin as well. He plays Le Rador. I think he's the gentleman that's in the cemetery.

first get ready to go down in and they they look and there's somebody standing there he's like uh i don't know what you call him a i don't want to call him a priest it wasn't that but somebody was walking through the cemetery staring i think i'm pretty sure that was john relin cool little imagery pearl said uh that image i was talking about

But the reason I like it, she says, because it's a sultry yet vulnerable dark moment, plus sexual life amongst the dead is a dark thrill in young minds. So there you go. And Bill Pearl would be 100% on board with Justin and I about the cemetery being a date spot. Oh, I would go for it, but I wouldn't have thought that it's that common. Yes, he is, boy. So, weird clown in the middle and weird monk dude. And Hubis Quester, who plays Lahom as Pierre Dupont.

I liked his character. He turns into a little screaming bitch. Him and Jean Roland did not get along during the shoot. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. He did not get along at all during the shoot, which I think this might have been the only film of his. that he appeared in, I can't say for sure. But Francois Pascal, she was in a version, a 70s version of Birkin hair.

Oh, wow. That's because when I saw her in that, I immediately went back to this film. I'm like, oh, my God, that's the girl from the Iron Rose. And that that's kind of a fun movie as well. But she is like just absolutely stunning in this movie. Absolutely stunning. And I loved the scenes.

with her walking through the cemetery. I like the scene on the beach, I'm not going to lie. Oh, well, yeah. But I like the scenes in the cemetery as well. And that was that beach again. That was that same beach from Rape of the Vampire.

I'll ask this to Justin because he's probably seen most of them, or if any of you guys know. From what I was reading, apparently the showing up of the clown, the appearance of the clown, is not the first time it appears in some of his films. That's correct. Does it show up in a bunch more? Well, as you get into his catalog, there's several films that feature two girls prominently, and they dress as clowns. So it does become a recurring theme for him, yeah.

Okay, so it's one of those things where if you're a fan of his, you're looking for it. You came to that, but this was the first time you would have experienced it. Yeah, I don't know that it's in all of the movies. It's not like you're looking for a Hitchcock. Right. Yeah. Yeah, in France, this isn't a Stephen King playing for all of his movies. Yeah, Francois is also still currently acting. I was just going to say that Francois is still acting today. She's actually got a pre-produced...

Our pre-production role right now is Nicole. Oh, nice. That's awesome. So I don't know what that is. But anyway, she's still acting. So I think that's awesome. All right. So that is the Iron Rose. And JB. Great choice, man, and I back you on enjoying this film, dude. Love this movie.

love it this was this was i was glad to see this one uh picked yeah yeah i can't wait to see it again actually i'm i'm i'm excited i want to see it right now i don't know who did if it was redemption or synapse or somebody but there's a really good version out there.

well redemption has it and as i mentioned that early if i didn't i'll do it right now indicator does have pre-order for this now and it's on 4k and blu-ray yeah that's oh that's the way to go that's great that's great but i love i do love the redemption

series for years they've had it for years so there won't be any outside of them and now they're indicator and that's it that's a branch of kino it is um it's the powerhouse uh powerhouse films is what it is but yeah you're going to get a lot of the same features that are on the redemption just

you know brought back over they're just resurrected into the indicator blu-ray so if you have the redemption i'm pretty sure you pretty much have everything that's on the indicator uh they may have added a thing or two on it but yeah good stuff all right so the iron rose for

dave and we're going to go to uh voicemail or two here and then we're going to come back and go to uh bill for his uh movie he chose we'll get to that but let's go to this voicemail well hello land of the creeps it's greg from ohio and i'm Well, this is a subject that is very deficient on my list, and I'm probably really not going to seek much out for Jean Roland.

No, nothing against him or his works. I just, you know, cruising through the list. I've only seen the one from 1975, Lips of Blood, and I saw that for the 1975 episode. And I don't know. I guess it's just one of those things that, you know, to each their own, I suppose. I guess I kind of outgrew the whole lesbian vampires. I know. I'm a prude. But it is what it is. But, yeah, outside of that, I mean, I just felt like I needed to at least call in and say hi to everybody.

Yeah, I think everything's going well. And listening to the 91 episode and, you know, it's it's a horror is always subjective and I get it. And and I didn't surprise me that Bill is not a. You know, a defender of certain things. So sorry, Bill. Silence of the Lambs is horror, but that's just my opinion. And we can have a debate over drinks sometimes.

of your squirty juice and water. Uh, yep, yep, yep, yep. But yeah. And there was another question that was posed in the episode and I can't even remember what it was. Uh, that's, uh, that's neither here nor there. So, yeah, can't wait for the 1992 episode. And, well, we'll talk to you later. JB, I love me some Greg Bench. He's a good guy. And there's a little more meat on the bone for 92, Greg. I'll tell you that much.

Yeah, I can't wait to see 92. I hadn't even looked at the list yet, but we'll get into that. Let's go to Chris Bartoli here, and then we'll go to Bill. Hey, Land of the Creeps, Chris Bartoli from Winston, Mass here. Just wanted to call for the, is it Jean Roland, or as I could call him, Gene Rollins. So I actually did watch a couple movies, and I just kind of wanted to say briefly.

what I thought of each one. I saw two, and I'm going to tell you right now, I really liked them. They were both on Tubi, and I can't remember at the beginning, I think it had, like, Redemption, which was the, I think one of the, like, you know... DVD, whatever, that did a good job restoring, which both movies, they did a nice job. But the first one I saw was The Shiver of the Vampires. And so just a couple little notes.

that i put on which i'm gonna put in so lots of boobs and butts and some crazy seduction not a lot of blood though it had an okay story but i really like this the score of that one To me, it sounded like early Pink Floyd at times, like pre Dark Side of the Moon, probably more like the Sid Barrett era of Pink Floyd. It just had that feel through the whole thing. And if I was to rate it...

just based on my enjoyment, 6 out of 10 for that one. And then today, I just watched another one, and it was The Grapes of Death. And I thought that one, I actually enjoyed that one a little bit more. Then the other one, then the one, the shivers of the vampire. And on the, the synopsis is like, you know, poison grapes turns people into, you know, bloodthirsts be zombies.

And they weren't really zombies. They were just kind of people that were infected with this crazy disease or whatever that made them crazy and want to kill people. I liked it. There was some... parts of the movie it seemed like it kind of just like some parts went on a little bit long like when the little girl's going with the uh lucy or lucy the um the blind girl it seemed like that took a lot of

like quite a while to go through it almost seemed like not a lot happened in the movie as far as different times or whatever but it was quite enjoyable i liked it and i think that one if i was to rate it Probably be like a 7 out of 10 for me. But anyways, that's what I got. Just wanted to call and say hi. Love you guys. And thank you for keeping horror alive. Bye. Oh, my man, Chris Martoli.

very cool yeah i love talking with chris because there'll be some nights where like i've had a joint he's got a bottle of whiskey he's playing records we're talking music and horror chris is a great guy to chat with so if you ever get the chance to go ahead yeah definitely and go check out the mrac the mrac uh podcast with yes uh with uh anthony r the shop master general as chris martoli was the guest for the whole month and it was john carpenter films and he done a tremendous

job he's amazing and he he texts me like when he was done and he goes bill i've got this buzz i know why you like it i can see why it's addictive yeah Yeah, it's easy, man. It's easy. I said start bugging Greg like I did, and eventually you'll get on. There you go. Do it, Martoli.

So here we go now. But don't be as much a pain in the ass as Bill was, right? No, it's the reason I have a fat ass is why I got on this show. There you go. Exactly. 100%. No, I'm just kidding. So let's head over to Bill. We're going to let him go to his feature review, which is... The Grapes of Death. The Grapes of Death. So just to lure behind the curtain a little bit, when we originally had this discussion about who to do, I was a little reticent on...

Roland not that I wasn't willing to watch and enjoy etc. But there aren't that many to find online with dubs And I was kind of like at wit's end. I had gone through all the shady websites, YouTube and the Dailymotion and then Prime. There weren't many. And so I text the group and Pearl came back and said, no, no, no, this one's on Tubi. It's got the dubs. And I'm like, perfect. And it is Les Raisons de l'amour, The Grapes of Death.

from 1978 here is the description and one of the reasons i liked and i kind of chose out of a couple was this one was straight up horror like there was no romance you know there was no drama there was no fantasy this was straight up horror

A young woman discovers that the pesticide being sprayed on vineyards is turning people into killer zombies. And what I like about this film over a lot of the other ones, there was... really good tightness to the script you can tell that Roland played part as one of the writers and it had direction and it took inspiration from another film I get to later but this one

I found, of all the films I've seen of his, I think that's seven, this one was the tightest. And that's one of the things I appreciated. But it still left a lot in terms of getting the cinematography, the shots of the... background the castles the houses that kind of thing so let me get to the grapes of death this one of the ones that kind of tied in with to me was uh let the sleeping corpse lie

Because they're both essentially the same kind of thing. Something in the air, something in the crops infects this town or the people of this farm. And, you know, it's up to the authorities to try to come and fix it. So on the grapes of death, it opens with farm workers spraying pesticide on a field of grapes. One worker complaining he isn't feeling well. And this sets the tone. He says, you know, like his neck is hurting when he swallows, et cetera. And the boss just says, oh, go get a drink.

water and get back out as the movie kind of has its first few minutes, you see other workers, headaches, oozing sores, pus coming out of various things on the face and the arms and the midsection, et cetera. Something's up, you know, a movie like 28 weeks later. 28 days later, obviously took inspiration from something like this. And then we kind of cut to a train.

And there's these two young ladies, two attractive young ladies in their early 20s traveling on a commuter train or travel train. And someone comes into their little compartment and he's basically... got the worst pimple you've ever seen and it grows and it's pus and it's oozing and he's laying basically moaning on the chair or on the seat and one of the women was not comfortable with him on her side and ran out another one was kind of lazy she was a little tired she was sitting there and then

As it goes, they leave, she leaves, she can't believe he's there, and she chases off the train because he ends up, he gets up, he's disheveled, he's acting out of ordinary, he's obviously ill beyond belief. One of the ladies on the train gets killed and she jumps out. And where does the train just happen to land? Out of all the places along the track, the farm that was in the opening scene.

and that village a very small village in a mountain as we later find out between like an arms plant and a nuclear plant or something like it's right in between you know hell and uh hell's cousin and it's in between and so essentially has set itself up in the first 15 minutes now this is very very inspired shall i say from night of the living dead in terms of tone presence what happens

But Roland puts his own spin on it. There's obviously a lot more nudity. There's a lot more sensuality. There's a little bit less in the way of guidance. It does give the characters a bit of room here. But there is a genuine sense of dread. There's a genuine sense of...

caring for the characters and that's when you know a horror movie's good when you actually care what happens to them you don't have to care about them but you want to care what happens to them and i found myself caring about it there were some decent practical effects on a budget i mean this is on a budget but you can tell there's a difference between this one and some of his earlier films

this one you know at least they have somebody in place that knows how to use prosthetics and dye colors and things like that the landscape in the countryside is beautiful on this this one had the trope of oh she's trying to escape she's got to get out of there she can get into town she can go find the mayor Oh, the car doesn't start. They were using that at this point too. You know, there was an obvious feel of Night of the Living Dead, but at the same time, it was nice.

And there might be some social commentary to this film very much at all as well. Maybe something that was going on politically or economically within the country, this might be reflective of that. I'm not going to give much more. Other than, let's just say there's a few twists and turns along the way, the love a father has for his daughter or he doesn't. And a revelation when she gets her shirt lifted. I'm going to leave it.

you know there's you know there's some elements of frankenstein in here towards the end with mobs and things there's elements of night of the living dead but i think roland put his own spin on this uh for this film i give it eight out of ten which for me is pretty high praise so this is what i give it Nice yeah, this one's a definite

uh, enjoy to watch. I do like some of the practical effects, although some of them are pretty hokey, but I always, when he's sitting there and like, you know, all of a sudden green paint flies out of his cheek. Well, there's like a head sever that you can totally tell. fate, but hey, I'm all for the ride. Low budget.

I don't care, man. I'm going into it knowing there's like a zero budget on this thing, man. He's at least given us gore. He's given us some things that he hasn't given us necessarily before, so I'm all for it. I enjoyed the ride of that. And there's a very disturbing kiss headings, a head kissing scene. Sure. There's a good pitch for it to a gut. There's a really good scene there. So, you know, there's some really good moments in this one for sure. Moral of the story, drink beer. Yeah.

Drink lots. Drink beer, you'll survive. It's very much like Grabbers. Drink beer, you'll survive. Or Strange Brew. There you go. So let's go to you, JB. What is your thoughts on Grapes of Death? Or have you seen it recently?

Yeah, I like it. There's an element of Cronenberg in this film. To me, it's a similar vibe maybe to Rabid, which I really love. That's one of my favorite Cronenberg movies. There is an ominous... vibe over the whole thing and you're talking about atmosphere i mean it has it this one feels a little more like a structured piece though than what the others that we're discussing tonight so i like it

i like it the makeup is sometimes hilarious yeah but i like it and the transition is really quick at times like the guy's face at the beginning in the train decomposes pretty damn fast yeah I think that was the point, that once it starts to affect him, it just moves quickly. Yeah. Okay, so Dave, what's your thoughts on this one? Have you seen it recently?

Yeah, as a matter of fact, this is the most recent one right before we started recording that I had just finished it again. I've seen this before. This is probably if I'm being honest, this is probably my favorite Roland film, and it is the one that's more.

I wouldn't call it mainstream, but for a Roland film, it feels like it's a little bit more. It's the most traditional horror film. Yeah, I would agree with that. And the reason that she ends up where she does is because she was heading there. She was on her way to.

that town um and she doesn't actually get there she there's a whole extended scene of her running with some great shots like through the fog on a bridge yes um just reminded me a little of uh steve mcqueen and the great escape going through the hills Yeah. Well, you get some of that in this. But what I liked is that you're never really quite sure who's infected. You know, the first one we see, it's on his face.

And then we run into someone else that she goes to that you were mentioning with the father and his adult daughter there. But you never quite know who's infected. And that kind of keeps you guessing. And you can start to feel like, OK, this one might be that one. Like there's a scene with Bridget LaHaye where you're like, OK, there's there's something a little off here, but she seems like she's got it.

pretty together. I like that. And I like the scene that I think really is when everybody comes out at night, just walks out of their house. All the infected just walk out of the house and bunch together and just move through the streets, basically looking for anybody who is not infected. Now, maybe I missed it. Did they ever explain why the one girl was repellent to the infection?

The main girl? Yeah, the one towards the end that ended up, I don't know, did she work for them? She gathered the girl for the group? The one that was there in the mayor's house. No. Did they explain why? I don't know that they did. Justin, did they explain why? I don't remember. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that they did. But we found those two guys were talking about drinking beer. You know, and this obviously it's these grapes in the wine that that were.

We're infecting people. And these guys are like, well, we just drank beer. Kind of reminds me of the old story when they were shooting the African Queen. Everybody got dysentery except John Huston and Humphrey Bogart. Because everybody drank the water except John Euston and Humphrey Bogart. They drank nothing but whiskey. So the moral of that story is, you know, get drunk every night and you're not going to get dysentery.

when you're shooting on location in Africa. You got a hangover, but not the shits. Yeah. Well, you got the shits, but for a very different reason. But I... I really did. Like if I were to say for like a horror fan to start, I would probably say the grapes of wrath would be the transition into genre land. You still get that, that.

the low budget you still get um some great shots like you get some artistic but you still get the horror you get the horror vibe and you but yeah but this one is the more traditional of um his of of his films that that i've seen so i would say this would be to answer darren's question this would be a good place to start yeah here's the thing too i think um i was

You know, if you read some of the trivia on this one, the one thing they did mention was some of the effects, JB, you know, the prosthetics that they're putting on faces, you know, to make them look whatever. But they said the temperatures were so cold that it would... come off looking fake because they were sticking to the people. I read below, there was one scene apparently where I was probably the one with a girl that was up in the room. It was so cold out and she was nude.

And she couldn't say her dialogue. Yeah, she it was. She she she had lines but could not recite them because she was she was like. so cold no that's crazy uh so yeah man it's the grapes of death i highly recommend it i will agree uh definitely we still got one more to go to But let me go ahead and tell you, Mr. Darren from Northern California, man, this is definitely a good one to go to, brother.

I didn't say it because I didn't know if we were going to reveal. Well, not quite yet, but I'm going to say that. And that's on Tubi, too. So there you go. Tubyville. Tuby does do a couple good movies. Tuby's got that one. And the other one I watched of his was La Fiance de Vampire. The Vampire's Fiance. I saw that one too. And those two both have dubs.

or uh subs okay that's cool i don't mind that at all all righty let's go to a couple voicemails here and then we'll head over to uh dave to give his final review for the night and then we still got a couple things we're going to get into so uh Let's go to Derek Johns. Hey, Creech, what's up? This is Derek Johns from Canada calling in for the Jean Roland episode. I don't know anything about this guy, so I can't call him for that.

don't just call it in to say hi and uh to dave greg bill and pearl and special guest not even a guest really part of the show always justin welcome back and let you know what a great job you've been doing on the movies, getting movies out and things like that. That's awesome. I just wanted to let you know, and we're slowly working on the 1992 year end for that.

for the top five of 92 got a few in there rewatched dracula holy cow i forgot how long and slow that movie was and i forgot the ending completely But anyway, just calling in to say what a great job everybody's doing here. Love the show. And also, I seen the monkey yesterday. 6.5 out of 10. I thought the kills with McGorl were pretty good.

The acting was a little goofy, in my opinion. I didn't really understand. I don't know. I just thought the movie was a little weird. Kind of agree with Greg, a little disappointed. But anyway, take care. Love everybody there. Bye. I love Dirk Johns. What a great guy. All right, so let's go to Anthony R. We're going to see how many shots he takes tonight, guys. Oh, boy. And then we'll go to Dave. Now, if he takes a shot every time he saw boobs. Oh, boy. Let's see.

if he does that. I don't even think he'd have been able to call in. I know, right? Well, he had actually messaged me because I don't think he had seen much John Relandon. He was texting me a little bit, so let's go to his voicemail. Hello, Drewvers. This is Anthony. Good job, Mr. General. And I'm sitting here right after having watched my first ever Jean Rollin film. Is it Jean Rollin or is it Gene Rollin?

I don't know. I watched The Iron Rose for the first time, and I'm going to drink to it, drink to Jean Roulin and all of you, with a little red wine. This is an Italian red wine. I didn't have any French, but this was the closest I could get. Peace and love, peace and love. My quick take on the Iron Rose. Very interesting film. Interesting in a good way, not in a way like, oh yeah, it was interesting.

I guess it's about a young man, a bit of an olive ball, likes to bring girls to the cemetery on dates. And a young woman, she's a ballet dancer. I guess the best way to describe her is it seems like she's never owned a bra or has a need to wear a bra. They go on a date in the cemetery. I don't really want to give it away. I don't know if he talks about it or we'll talk about it. But I was very, you know, this is my introduction to Jean Roulin. Very cool visuals, imagery, the colors were...

They're like very muted except for the clothes were bright. And one thing I love about a film, unpredictable and open to interpretation as to what happens. I did not see where it was going to go. But I liked where it went, and I want to see more. And you know what? I'm going to wait for you to recommend for me what to see next because that's what I did. I heard about him first during the 70s episodes, and yeah, great.

It's wild. It's fun. Greg, Bill, Dave, Erwin, Greg, Bill, and the Beamer. We love when the Beamer's on. We love all of you. Peace and love. Peace and love. That's all for me. Bye-bye. Nice. And another one that we'll circle around at the end with you as well, Anthony R and Darren, for some suggestions on some other genre-long movies. I was going to say, just listen back. It's always funny when people say Gene Rollins.

And it reminds me of when Montreal goalie Patrick Roy was playing and they would announce him like Jay Leno goes, is Patrick Roy? You can just hear them cringing. It's like Guy LaFleur. Guy LaFleur. Guy LaFleur. LaFleur. Cool. Let's get to our... Last feature review tonight. And this has been fun, man. We've looked at three, I will say, totally different films so far. I'm going to say I'll agree with you that it's kind of a smattering of his career. I think we did well with the choosings.

these movies we're giving you different takes and we're going to one that i can't wait for dave to talk about and this movie is fascination so dave take it away for fascination All right. Actually, before we do, the Guatemala coffee has only rented space and I need to do an eviction. You got it. All righty. The Guatemalan coffee has come out of Dave now.

Let's get into the... Yes, and how sweet it is. I'll take your word for it. I will, too. I will. Let's get into our last feature review tonight. What you got there, Dave? All right. Well, I went to the 1979 film Fascination. It's set in 1905. And Mark, played by Jean-Marie Lemaire. is a petty thief who has just swindled his partners out of their share of some gold coins. He's looking for a place to hide, and he...

He finds this remote mansion that seems to be abandoned. So he goes inside, but he finds two chambermaids. Elizabeth, played by Frank Amai. cancer and eva who's the amazing amazing uh bridgette la haye brigitte la haye who we've already mentioned it from the grapes of death They say they're watching the place for their master, who won't be back until the next day, or then it becomes a few days. Knowing that his, you know...

pissed off cohorts are kind of waiting for him outside. Mark makes himself at home, but he can't shake the feeling that there's something a little peculiar about his pretty companions there. who instead of fearing, you know, he's got a gun on them, they kind of welcome him with open arms. Yeah, so anyway, I'll leave it there. There is something else going on with these two that we eventually figure out. This is a lot like a genre-land film. I mean, it has the surreal imagery.

um a great setting i loved that mansion that with the moat you know like that there's water surrounding this mansion there's only one bridge in i loved that i thought that was great nudity and sex you get some blood not a lot of blood but there's you get a lot of nudity and sex in this movie um there there are some scenes that almost like

cross into soft core, especially, you know, especially with, with Brigitte Lahaye. And she was a, um, uh, she did appear in some French, uh, uh, porn films. Uh, but anyway, that's neither here nor there. What I really. liked about this one now this one you know you say oh with story this one had a couple stories going on you had mark with his with these guys that he ripped off

And then you had these two women and they're saying, you know, they're they're trying like one is trying to keep Mark hanging around. The other one who is trying to warn him to get out. that something is going to be going down, that they have some people coming over later that night. You know, you're kind of like with Mark. I mean, I won't be honest with you. If I was Mark, I wouldn't leave either. I mean, this is these are the very attractive women.

Mark gets lucky at one point. But anyway, there's there's and there's another scene in this that that's really kind of. It's right at the beginning. And you have these high society women at a slaughterhouse. They're drinking ox's blood, which is kind of all the rage at the time is what we find from anyone who's suffering from anemia.

which man i don't know i found that scene very disturbing you know where they're in that and in there and you see the ox is hanging there and they're they're drinking this blood and the one guy says hey look at the guy who who works here and breathes in the fumes. This is the guy who's sort of promoting it. He's almost like the medicine man, you know, making a profit off of this stuff. And meanwhile, the guy who works there, I wouldn't say he's like this.

You know, the epitome of manhood, to be honest with you. But hey, I found that scene very disturbing. And there are like the movie opens over the opening credits. You have. um elizabeth and eva dancing with a phonograph record there on the bridge um and that's how the movie opens so this for me i think this one crosses a little more into exploitation But there's definitely that art house there with the setting and with some of the shots in this.

I don't know. I like this one even more this time than the first time I saw it. I connected this one even more this time. But for me, this is definitely... this is genre land as exploitation even a little bit more than the art houses is how i see it especially with a lot of the the the nudity and sex i mean even later on when when these other women show up, the robes they put on. I mean, it's basically, you know, see-through silk that they're wearing.

But I really like it. I enjoy this movie quite a bit. Pass it over to whoever. Yeah, this one is one of my favorites, man. I'll be honest. Like, it has some really cool moments. You know what? And I'm sorry. One real quick. I did want to mention. I think that Francois Pascal. That's that image that you mentioned from Iron Rose. That is like sort of like the image. Second would be Brigitte LaHaye walking around in that black robe with the scythe. Yes. Yeah, totally.

Yeah. You know, that would be, that would be right up there as well. And I'm telling you, if she's the grim Reaper, I'm not going to have, I'm not going to be too upset when she comes calling.

here's here's the only the only issue and i won't call an issue the only take i'll take from it pearl and i as we're watching it and that is a great scene once she brings the sight out and she's got the robe and but It's like there's a scene where there's an opportunity for her to literally take two heads off, right?

I thought the first time I saw it, that's where it was going. I know what you're saying. Yes, that might be a little bit of a disappointment where it goes. I'm with you 100% on that one. I thought the first time watching it was like.

oh, this is going to be awesome, and it was only just kind of cool. Yeah, because they just let it go past, right? And it might have been a budgetary reason, so I'm not knocking it if that was the reason, and I'm assuming that would be the only reason why you didn't get it. that epic scene that you could have had, uh, but for an hour watching, like, Oh, that's really all that that's walking down that bridge. Oh, it was awesome. Swing. It's like, wow. Yes.

Yes, totally, totally great scene. So yeah, this has a lot of good moments in it that I really thoroughly enjoyed. And I think this is definitely one of those that... you know, horror fans can like a lot. Uh, but what do you say on this one? Uh, let's go to you JB. What'd you think of this one? I really liked this one a lot. I think it, it was the first of his films that I ever saw that.

image of her with the side i think is probably the most iconic in all of his catalog i think that generally like that image is definitive and it's one i think that redemption used in a lot of promotional materials too over the years for it but i think it's a really accessible movie too i think it would be a

nice starting point for people who are just starting to get into it it has touches of one of my all-time favorite films vampires with a y which i know i always talk about i always bring that movie up because i just love it so much i just it's such a it's just so great and this has some touches of that and it's these two girls and their relationship i love the mystery around that and i like how they're both essentially manipulating him and it all sort of climaxes in this

frenzy uh on the dock toward the end of the film and uh i just think it's it's a lot of fun it doesn't really slow down too much and it's Beautiful scenery, beautiful ladies. There's nothing not to like here. Agree. Bill, thoughts on Fascination? It was interesting. It was a film that, full disclosure, I watched it, a beautiful copy, but no subs. And this one had a lot more dialogue than I think in many of his other films.

So some of the intricacies I missed. Just some overall impressions. I love the Baroque opening score. i i thought that was great and i thought the score of this film set the mood to the film you know it kind of set it off my first note after the score is those sisters are smoking hot they were great i i said this one had a more cohesive storyline which it obviously did and i thought the acting was pretty good in this one uh i thought it was pretty intriguing and they set it up with the

You know, someone who'd ripped off their buddies and needs a place to stay, you know, and at any point he could have left, but he stayed. He was intrigued. I would have stayed. Well, are you trying to get laid or are you trying to get away from the law? What are you trying to do here? Yes. What did I write down here? The expression... on someone's face when they get stabbed during sex made me laugh. I laugh.

Dude, that was a, if you're talking about the one to the rib cage, man, that was a, that looked real. You know what? That looked very real. And I was waiting to see, is that like one of those retracting knives? It obviously was one of those. It obviously was, and that's why they held it as long as they did. But his face, you got a brilliant look on his face of, oh, I thought I was getting, oh.

And so my second thing was another sexual thing. And it said there was a strange use of a cigar during a sexual act. I'll just leave it at that. That was interesting where you thought that was going. Yeah. Well, where it went, where it didn't go, but why it went there, whatever. There were elements to this where I found the story interesting. I also found that there were some slow points to this as well.

That's kind of hard if you couldn't understand what they were saying. Well, that's it. I couldn't see the answer. Yeah, I know. That's kind of like saying, hey, I didn't like that movie, but I watched it in Norwegian with Japanese subtitles. Exactly. So I tentatively gave it a five and a half, but I want to see it with the subs. I mean, it could very well go up to a seven.

Because the action was there. I couldn't get all the nooks and crannies of this film. So I have a tepid five and a half, but there's room to go up on that. Okay. Fair enough. I really thoroughly enjoyed this one, Fascination. If you had to rate it, Dave, where would you come in on it? You know what? I haven't been given ratings. You know what? I would give it an 8 out of 10.

No, 8.5 out of 10. I would give Grapes of Death a 9 out of 10. And if I did not rate it, I'd give the Iron Rose probably an 8. No, I'd give that one a 9 out of 10 as well. Okay.

All right, cool. There is your feature reviews tonight. Once again, we looked at four different films. I think, you know, four different avenues, four different... eras of of his filmmaking rape uh rape of the vampire we had grapes of death we had the iron rose and then we finished with fascination so let's pass this around and then uh

We'll do some other things, but I want to pass this around. Where you think people should start if they want to get into Jean Roland, this is for Darren and for Anthony R. I'll start. A couple, three that I would definitely recommend were taught. about tonight, and that would be Fascination. It would definitely be Grapes of Death, and I would definitely recommend Iron Rose. Those are three high ones.

I am a fan of Night of the Hunted. I like that one as well. I'm a fan of Lips of Blood, Shivers of the Vampire. You know, there's a lot of good ones in my opinion. Two Orphan Vampires? Is that one of them? Yes, it is. Yeah, that's the one.

With the twin girl? Yes. Now, there's one that I want to watch of his, but it's not horror. It's called School Girl Hitchhikers. You know what? That was also... I don't know if it was Redemption. It was a different... group or a different collection, but that was also from Kino.

They put out schoolgirl hitchhikers. I have that as well, and I haven't seen it either. The synopsis is two family hitchhikers get mixed up with a gang of thieves, and they're stolen jewelry. And it's on Tubi, which means they'll have dubs or subs. So this one. I made this very well on my own. Just curiosity will get me to watch it.

cool uh so that's where i would go with you uh anthony r and uh darren would definitely be uh going with grapes of death fascination iron rose a few of those i would throw my hat for demoniacs okay yeah we know why Let's go to you, Dave. I like ghosts. Yeah, I'm sure you do. Dave, what do you throw at him? I would say the three you mentioned, but I would start with Grapes of Death. That would give you the horror.

Then go to fascination where you would get the exploitation. Then go to iron rose where you get hints of both of those, but it's very much. Like like Jean Roland coming at you with that arthouse mentality. Yeah. And just just giving you a setting. Now, there's still horror in The Iron Rose, like I said, with with that setting and and being lost in this.

I mean, that's terrifying at night, being lost in a cemetery at night, especially that cemetery. I think it's terrifying, but I would do it in that order. I would say start with Grapes of Death, then go to Fascination. and then go to iron rose and you will sort of get the spectrum of of of genre land and then from there leap off in any direction just just you know just Put the titles in a hat and pick them out, and then you'll be ready for what you're going to experience.

cool how about you bill where would you go the ones you guys said were good i would as i said i'd throw my hats in for demoniacs just because i think with demoniacs you get like a good sense of Yes, there's sexuality. There might be some unsimulated intercourse in that, to be quite frank. And I'm a big fan of Demoniacs as well. I loved the imagery in that one. But I would say that would be like a fourth one. That would be after.

you see the three then go to demoniacs because that has elements of all of that that's where it all sort of it's kind of an all-encompassing you get a bit of the sexuality you get a bit of the horror it's shot beautifully it's got an intriguing storyline And he obviously had a higher budget than he did from his 1968. Not, not, you know what? Not by much though. I think he's John Rolando. He's just a guy who he can.

pick out a setting and just like like like justin was saying he'll just say this is fascinating i want to shoot there and like it has my favorite setting and i already mentioned it that that ship graveyard is is just amazing I think that's his strength is he's like, I don't have a lot of money here, but we have this location and let's just let's just use it as best we can.

And he uses the hell out of them. He does. Like, I've always wondered, you know, like if you gave him even a mid-level Hollywood budget, you know, what could he do instead of trying to, you know, get blood out of a stone, literally? You know, what would he do? Like he knows how to shoot. The man knows the countryside. The man knows the setting. The man knows sets. You know, if you give him something like that, it's like Franco.

in a way because franco you know he might shoot 10 of them and eight of them might just be rubbish but you might find two diamonds in the rough there And it's the same kind of thing with, at least with me to roll in, you guys might be more amiable to it, but you're going to find a few, even if you're not a quote unquote art house fan. And I'm not, I am not an art house fan.

you will find a few that make you go, okay, this guy damn well knows his craft. Well, there you go. JB, what you got for the Darren and Anthony are, I say, if you want to find a pure roll on film, I would.

as i said earlier point to the iron rose i think if you want to step outside of being so solidly inside of his head his 1982 picture called the living dead girl is a good one for people to check out i like that one too yeah he didn't he didn't write that so that might for those who may struggle with his structure and things like that that's outside of his hands in terms of the writing at least. And that's a really good one. And then I think fascination is probably a natural next step then.

i mean that's a good cross-section right there and then from there like dave said just jump off and find whatever you can i think it's great that these new releases are coming out And these 4Ks, I think that's really exciting. The other one I would mention is one that I've seen that I was talking to the boys ahead of time. Perdu dans New York, which is Lost in New York.

And this one, I think, is mid-80s, shot in New York. And the story behind this one is that he was flying to New York to receive an award or some sort of accreditation where he was going to be flown out there and given kind of some ceremony of something.

sort and so while he went he brought a couple actresses with him not very experienced actresses but they were pretty and they did their thing and they shot this film rogue on the road, literally in parts of New York City and cemeteries and in street scenes. And, you know, it's not the most coherent. You know, there's some allusions to cemeteries and vampires and things. And it's not a horror, but it shows you kind of the beauty of how he can do things when he just wants to make a film.

And I'm sure Justin's probably seen this film. It's an interesting, and there's very little nudity right up until the end. And so it's an interesting film to watch if you've seen a couple of them and you want to see what he can do also. Well, check these out. I hope that's helped Darren and Anthony R and anyone else that's kind of, you know, clueless on Jean Roland. That's kind of our take on it. And just go in there knowing he is a French director of art.

And I love it. So if you like artsy films, you'll definitely like some of his movies. Like, Dave, where would you say watching Roland is different than, say, watching Fellini? Fellini got a lot more money to make his movies. Yep. And I'm a... Big time Fellini fan as well. I love Fellini. You know, Eight and a Half, I think, is one of the greatest films ever made. And La Dolce Vita is a classic. Roma.

which is almost like semi-documentary is great, but you know, Fellini had a lot more money. Roland was doing this with like, he was, he was Fellini, what Fellini could do on a set. Roland was doing on location. He was finding fascinating locations, whereas Fellini could build this stuff at, you know, Cinesetta. They could build these huge sets for him.

uh for all of his films and he could his image could be like he would just get the craftsman to build it for him Roland had to go out and find his And I think that he managed to do it in every movie. He managed to find something fascinating in every movie. Nice. All right. Well, cool. Let's go to a couple more calls and then we'll pass around and do.

A few other things here. I've got a couple things with Justin and his book and Dave, a little thing that we're going to do with Dave here. So there's some cool stuff. Oh, we're going to do a little thing with Dave. Awesome. Yeah. Shut up, Bill. Mind your P's and Q's, my friend. So let's go to Michael Stanislavski. Hello, Creepers. Hello, Greg.

Dave, Bill, hello, Pearl, and hello to Justin. This is Mike Stanislowski calling in for the Jean Rolland episode. I'm sure I'm... mispronouncing his name but uh before this episode i had seen four of his films since then i have watched two and a half more and i will say this you know uh the work of Jean Roland is definitely not for everybody. These films are extremely arty. They're often very slow-paced. It's all about the mood, the cinematography.

cinematography the lighting the music um all of that so if you are not into you know slow burn rd films you will probably be very miserable Watching his stuff. So of the films I've seen, my favorites would be Requiem for a Vampire, which is very arty. The Living Dead Girl, which I would recommend maybe to people who are not familiar with his work or not sure if they would like it. I think The Living Dead Girl is much more kind of traditional.

horror movie and the premise will be very familiar to anyone who has seen Return of the Living Dead 3. The ones I would avoid. Our Zombie Lake, which is the first one I saw, it doesn't even feel like one of his movies. And his first vampire film, The Rape of the Vampire, was pretty rough going. For me. But if I'm in the right mood, you know, I really enjoy these films. And interesting Land of the Creek's connection is that two of the Jean Roland DVDs I own.

were movies I purchased from Dave, Dr. Shock, Becker. So I mentioned before buying the Grapes of Death, but I also bought Requiem for a Vampire. And I will say that DVD has... This really cheesy cover art of these, you know, models. It looks like a 1980s Fredericks of Hollywood photo shoot. These women are not in the film. It doesn't convey at all. what the movie is like but um that's my call as always thanks for keeping horror alive

You know what? He is absolutely right. I remember that DVD. That is one of the cheesiest covers I've ever seen. It is terrible. It is terrible. He's absolutely right. So but I'm glad I'm glad he he got them and he enjoyed them. And I was wondering, I wasn't sure about the grapes. I knew I had it on DVD. I know I have them. you know redemption blu-ray now uh but i'm glad he uh he got both of those copies that's great all right so let's go to uh ian erza let's see what ian's got for us

Hey, Land of the Creeps. It's Ian Urza. Setting in a voice recording for the Jean Roland episode. I'm actually really excited for this episode. I didn't get too much time to prep and watch some of his movies again.

of this but i when when the episode is released i'll probably end up uh watching uh some of his movies again after your takes on on his films and to see how they line up with some of mine i mean the thing about genre Roland and I do remember I'll give a shout out to Kat Ellinger because I think she was the one who said this that he he is an exploitation filmmaker

or an erotic filmmaker who merged that with the art house. And you think about some other famous exploitation filmmakers, or infamous ones, I should say. People like Joe D'Amato, who merged... uh exploitation eroticism and in joe damato's case specifically probably like pornography but there aren't really a whole lot of other directors that could merge that with the art house jess franco certainly couldn't do that either and

What's interesting about Jean Rollin, or Jean Rollin, I'm not entirely sure how the French pronunciation works, but he can merge the art house. with the exploitation. And that's what I found interesting, specifically in several of his films. Lips of Blood, Night of the Hunted, Night of the Hunted specifically, and Living Dead Girl, but Night of the Hunted specifically will be about these monsters because he usually makes films about vampires or zombies.

zombies and it'll be about these monsters having sentience people knowing what they do and not you know not liking themselves because of it uh living dead girl specifically is about that but even night of the hunted is about in a way about like what makes what makes zombies go or what

You know, can they have thoughts? Can they act on their own accord? And he does that with several of the monsters and the creatures in his films. And it's really interesting how he did that. He was a bit of ahead of his time in that way because, you know, a lot of films. or at least some films would follow suit and that they would try to explore the sort of psychology or the sentience of these creatures. And he was kind of already doing that in a way before anyone else was doing it.

A lot of his films have a certain kind of pacing or they have longer drawn out scenes. And one of the reasons why I wasn't the biggest fan of The Iron Rose the first time I watched it, I got to be honest, out of the films I've seen of his, that's... probably my least favorite because that's the only one that didn't necessarily have too much of a payoff it was almost all atmosphere and there really wasn't much you know blood bloody or gory or outrageous moments whereas almost every one

of his films has that the reason why the living dead girl is my favorite of his is because that's probably the bloodiest and goriest of of at least the ones i've seen fascination has elements of that too and it's certainly the sexiest of his films but i always enjoy sort of the atmosphere of his films he does a good job with locations specifically the chateaus that you can see in a lot of his different films

And even if he's only in or around that one location, there's such a specific atmosphere to it. I got to give a shout out to the films he did with Brigitte Layet. I think I'm pronouncing that right. French sort of. pornographic actress turned mainstream actress, although I'm sure in France the two sort of, let's say, overlap in a certain way, maybe. But, you know, you can't ignore the fact that she was sort of his muse for some of his films.

but she wasn't in a ton of them. Like she was in, she was only in a few, but that those films usually tend to be the more popular or well-known ones, specifically Fascination. But even, you know, a film like The Grapes of Death, which is probably my second favorite.

film of his overall well no it would probably be third i think it would go living dead girl fascination and then grapes of death like grapes of death is a really cool idea for a zombie movie right where you have like the zombies becoming infected by by like the the alcohol or the grapes which i find you know really uh interesting um so he would always come up with these interesting ideas for what these creatures and monsters were and sort of what made them...

how how they were and what they were and that's that was something he always did that was interesting and like i said there's just a pacing to his films there's an imagery there's an eroticism and of course that art house aspect like i was talking about were I don't really think there's any other filmmaker that has been able to merge the art house and the erotic and exploitation kind of all into one like he has. And that's what makes him interesting.

as a director, and I'm hoping to explore even more of his films in the future. There's certainly several of his vampire films that I have not watched yet, so I'm eagerly awaiting to see what other listeners have to say. Maybe there are some films of his that you'll... out that maybe i haven't heard of and maybe i'll end up wanting to watch as always guys thanks for letting us send our recordings and our voicemails into the show and i hope that it goes well bam great voicemail

And I do, once again. That was great. Those are good recommendations there, absolutely. Maybe he's the expert. You know what? And going back to Michael Stanislavski, when he mentioned Zombie Lake did not feel like a genre, it wasn't. It was originally going to be directed by Jess Franco.

Franco couldn't do it. So Roland stepped in and it really is just sort of, it's, it's, it's a Jess Franco movie. It's almost like it was like Roland was just sort of a director for hire on that one. I don't think he brought anything of himself to zombie lake. Agreed. 100%. And once again, Night of the 100. I definitely recommend that one. Let's go to... We've got two more calls left. Let's go to this one, which is Brian Scott. And Brian always likes to...

type some stuff in for his email and then, or the voicemail and then his voicemail. So he says, Justin beam for life. Tyson's punch. I love this. Tyson's punch out for life. I love that game. By the way, get through the forest in Legend of Zelda by going north, west, south, west. Ha ha.

Man, I've got to play Legend of Zelda. I've never played Legend of Zelda, so I don't know if I could ever play it. I just know it's one of those Quest games, and I feel like I would probably be lost in five seconds. I sucked at Mike Tyson's punch-out. I did a cheat with that one. I learned by watching YouTube, somebody go through it, so I learned some of the tricks on how to, you know, what to be. I wish it was around when I played it. Oh, same. First few times, I got knocked out by Glass Joe.

King Hippo. He's a good one. There you go. Oh, King Hippo. Yeah, it took a while before I realized you have to hit that son of a bitch in the stomach for a hundred times. Got him in the belly. But let's go to his voice. Let's see what he's got. Hey, guys. Horror Movie Fanboy here. Well, it's hard to find some Jean Roland movies to watch streaming. Some of them are kind of hard to find. Like, I want to watch The Night of the Haunted. That one sounds fun.

Nowhere to be found. But anyway, I'm not really super familiar with him. So I'm going to rely on y'all's favorite picks. And then I'm going to watch one of them. And also, I haven't really had time to watch movies because... I broke out my Atari, NES, and Sega games. I've had under the basement stairs for decades. So I've been playing Tyson's Punch-Out in Zelda all week. But I'm glad you guys are watching the movies.

Because I want to hear you guys talk about them. L-O-T-C for life. I love it, man. Brian Scott sent me a picture, and I think he sent some of us, but he sent a picture of his... He had like three piles of cables that were like the Ataris and Nintendos and everything, and it was all the wiring, and it just looked like...

from Christmas vacation or something to the Christmas line, it was just all a big ball. I was like, boy, I feel for you, brother. I feel, but he's got them rolling. And I'm with you, brother. I love Nintendo. I love freaking Atari, man. I'm all about that shit. Love it. The Atari 2600, I'm assuming.

uh yeah the original atari yeah yeah that's that's the one it's the best it's the best all right so we got one more voicemail to go to as we speak and i don't know if any else will come in before we were uh after we record if we do i'll add them in but as of right now this the final uh voicemail and it was i think one of the first voicemails we got but it is from the gruesome toosome themselves greg p and amy lee

L'espoir s'éteint dans nos yeux avant la fureur. Le vent tourne ou serre, le sang coule sur les fleurs. My flowers are our eyes All right, I guess we're ready, right? Yes. Okay. So this is your gruesome twosome coming to you for the Jean Roland episode with, I believe, Justin Beam. We watched two films for this, La Morte Vivante, or Living Dead Girl from 1982, and 1978's Grapes of Death.

i guess we'll start with the first one what you want to say anything i was so excited to see living dead girl because i'm like woohoo i love rob zombie so 20 minutes in when it was just slow it was not as exciting Definitely acting like a living dead girl, not doing a whole lot. The movie was kind of like that. Yeah, it was very slow. I was kind of surprised. I have seen other genre land films. She's a really sad, like, dead girl.

Like, she doesn't want to eat people. That's right. Most people embrace that shit. Well, I guess modern day. Like I told you, Catherine was having a crisis of conscience. Did not want to be what she became, which was kill people to live. And there was a lot of screaming.

well that was one of the things i guess we call that a drawback for that film was or his films the two that we saw there was so much screaming and it was ridiculous against the dialogue i think because it was more like two people talking and then the screaming just went like berserk yes most definitely i don't know as we watched this i kept thinking and saying things that just because it was the one

we started with was such a slow-paced film i wanted to do a mystery science theater episode to it oh we totally could have done that we definitely could have done that not to say that it was a completely terrible film

Because it wasn't. There were definitely some good things. I love the cinematography of the French countryside. I like the concept. Right. I like the... a lighting especially like when they were in the catacombs and you would get just them and then the lighting behind them was much darker i just had so many questions what kind of questions did you have like that toxic in the ground

everybody else down there was dead so why didn't anybody else wake up well i she inhaled the gas i don't know that's inhaled i guess so she was dead yeah i know that's why that was funny after i said i realized i made a serious faux pas there like well no she didn't inhale it it was just like i said there were a lot of things and i'm true she was exposed to the mists where others were not one guy got a direct splash on his face and it just

eight is decided to space off why did he die when she lives yes you did have a plot screw up there are a couple but that's okay and there were parts that were gooey so guys i sat through it well

I just want to commend you because you sat through two films that were mostly in French with subtitles. That I had to read. And you did have to read them, and I was quite impressed with that. So not happy about that. But you didn't complain that one time, so you were a trooper. Well, There wasn't a whole lot of dialogue.

not especially in the first one there wasn't a whole lot you know and then the two people that did speak english argued quite a bit oh and the second one no the first one were greg and barbara greg was memorized said greg was a dickhead he didn't want to believe anything a second oh no you're right sorry I've been dead girl

He was the, I don't know, writer or something. Because we watched this like two days ago and my brain already is like. We watched this yesterday. So I guess it would be 40. But yeah. Oh, they did. They fought constantly. That's all they ever did, which was very annoying. I could have done without. that part it didn't add anything to the film I don't think other than it let her there were other ways that she could have went to the estate and him not care about it

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm saying, you know, well, fine, I'm just going to do what I want to do after he doesn't believe anything she's saying, even though he has, she has photographic proof. That was annoying for me. Well, would you believe me if I came home and said, oh, look, I saw this dead girl in the field. I got a picture. You showed me the picture and everybody said it was a dead girl. What toys do I have? Well, she could have.

There's someone that looks like her. We say that all the time. There's people that look like other people all the time. But I'm not going to like you. Well, you're not like that anyway. You're not going to want to go explore something like that by yourself. Oh, no. You would definitely want. Definitely not at night. See, you know.

You're smarter than most horror films. So Catherine was not the crazy one. It was Helene that was the crazy one. She's fucking nuts. Exactly. Well, as you said, it was like... how many do you have to kill before you're a serial killer well she definitely fell into that category but like do you walk into that situation and you're just like oh okay this is what we're doing today and not she didn't bat an eye so she just drugged the the girl that fell down terribly and died

terribly that was a terrible death scene that was one of the funniest again that's what made me think mr science theater is when the um the realtor or whatever the realtor or custodian of the house when she is killed and she falls down butt naked on the front stairs on the front stairs spread eagle on the stairs and just like flopped down that was quite hilarious she didn't grab her boob in the meantime no no no no that was all catherine there every time catherine

suffered pain she had to grab the uh what was it left boob i forget which one i don't know either way it was one boob so entertainment it was definitely entertainment so Okay, so again, this was high rated on IMDb, but I don't think we would give it that rating at all. I think I would give it a much lower rating.

I did enjoy the last 15, 20 minutes of it because there was more dialogue. And then you did see that conflict of conscience. And all the dialogue was very poetic. I did appreciate that quite a bit. Considering she'd been dead for years. and she could finally speak after like 24 hours. It took her a while to speak. I guess she had to have enough blood for it. But you said that last kill when she killed Helene was like a much better death scene. It was quite... was quite cinematic.

It was very cinematic, although Helene kept opening her eyes when she was dead and spraying blood. But other than that, it was okay. But, you know, again, most of these films were low budget. Well, that's all I have to say about it. Me too. Which goes to... our next movie. Also, these two movies were on Tubi and we just watched them back to back and it was just a good time to do it. We watched... We actually had the time. We did have the time. 1978's Grapes of Death.

This was much better. It was much better. I love the atmospheric cinematography. The sound effects were better. You know, you had the wind blowing. The dead people were actually creepy in this one. Grapes of Death, basically pesticides. And both of these, you know, the first one was a product of its time. You know, there was a lot of, as we talked about before, worry about pesticides harming our crops and causing damage to people.

whatnot and i guess they both kind of have that exactly so they dump toxic chemicals and bring back her as a zombie slash vampire type person but in grapes of death it's spraying pesticides on the Grapes cause everyone in the town who drank the wine to become zombies. Apparently alcohol does not kill pesticides.

We learned something valuable there. Well, it's not alcohol. No. At first. I'm being silly. Oh, but yeah, as it's processed. Yeah, absolutely. It should be, you'd think. But anyway. But apparently this was rated as the first gore film of France. I did not know that until I was doing some research on it. Again, we liked it because it's faster paced. I did like that Marie Georges Pascal, who played Elizabeth.

She was really believable in her acting. Does that look like Michael Jackson? Yes. That's the one that you, when you said that I had to, I could not, not see Michael Jackson when she turned her head certain ways, which is funny, but she did act. quite well although this one had plenty of screaming on its own but um a lot of the the zombies were just creepy very reminiscent of night of the living dead with the way they would just walk and stalk and

Except they could get away. They would just stare at you. That's creepy. You have to admit, that's very creepy. It absolutely is. You know, you had Lucy the blind girl who just kept screaming for Lucian, but... At the time, I'm like, why is she being so irrational? And then you realize she is affected just the way they are. And her insanity is she has to find this other person. And I really appreciate that.

that turn in the plot you start realizing all these people are going well at some point they're nuts so that women it affects women completely different towards the very end but we had already experienced you know lucy with her issue and then what happens to her which if you've not seen this film i do recommend that you go see it it's i enjoyed this one quite

quite a bit um but i even though it is good lord probably close to 50 years old it definitely had more realistic like blood scenes i agree with that I don't know. And then you had Bridget LaHaye. Something was slightly off about her and then she went full on batshit crazy.

that was funny you kept saying she looked for me i was like well she was a french porn star yeah you're like no she looks like jimmy garth she did look like her i could see that in certain certain parts i was a girl i had to look at it and go Well, I'll be damned. And again, I also like the way this movie ended. You're left to choose whether Marie has went, or Elizabeth, excuse me, has went mad or...

She just did what she did for her. I think she's infected because her fiance or whatever worked at that winery. She covered her arm so you couldn't see her arm at one point. I remember watching that. i did like that they left it open-ended definitely check this one out we we would uh recommend this one quite a bit and again you do have subtitles the whole thing is in french uh it's free on tubi and we both liked it a lot

I did, even though I hadn't read it. I know. Oh, by the way, there's 70s Bush in both these films. Oh, good God, yes. Which I know that you're not a fan of. You like people clean shaven. All right. You got any? I'm like, I can't help it. I know. Well, I grew up with all this, so it doesn't bother me. Also, my favorite genre land is Zombie Lake. I don't know if I mentioned that before. You mentioned it several times. I mentioned it to you, but not here.

And why the hell do they all wear heels? You're running across mountains and rocks and you're blind too. That is true. And you still have some heels on. So the blind girl has heels on running all through these rocks. And the same kind of thing in the first movie. You know, everywhere they go, these women have heels on. Like, no, you take those off and you walk barefooted or, you know, you're going to wear some flats or something. Minimally, they could just...

Become a weapon. Exactly. Nobody picked him up and threw him like a... Somebody's eyeball. Exactly. I know. Anyway, all of my thoughts are... I think we've got them all in there. Yep. All right. Well, that is us for the Jean Roland films. Thanks for keeping horror alive and LOTC for life. And what do you want to say? Good night, guys. Good night. I think that was fun.

let's find a dog chewing on her bone i'm pretty sure she farted somewhere in there the dogs yes oh you think the dog did that in here somewhere oh that's funny she was right beside me when she did it oh okay well that's Oh, I hope I captured that. That'll be hilarious. Oh, she's a mess. Now we're back from that voicemail. I love the French music. I know, right? That was really cool. I don't necessarily agree about The Living Dead Girl. I don't think it's MST3K.

level. There are things about it I do like, but I was so happy that they enjoyed The Grapes of Death. That was awesome. Definitely. And you know what, Amy? I feel bad that your dog was gassy. I know. Yes, they got that at the end there. I know. The question is, would you rather be Greg or be the dog? Oh. Or was it Greg Blaming the dog? Damn dog. Like that old George Carlin joke. It's like, that's not one of my farts. I got an egg fart, a beer fart.

I know that dog farted. I saw his asshole open up. I just happened to be looking. What the hell kind of question is that? But I agree. There was some really good French heavy metal out of that. Oh, yeah, definitely. And you don't normally hear it. I mean, I didn't understand a word they said, but it had a good beat to it, so I'll go with that. There's lots of it there. I mean, Europe, there's two styles of music Europe loves more than anything else, electronica and heavy metal.

So every country out there has got their own version. Nice. Well, Greg P., Amy Lee, appreciate you calling in. We love you guys so much. And the voice sounded great, man, and all that good stuff. So good stuff. uh so with that said this is not over yet because i gotta do something here i got to

I'm holding in my hands. You've got to warm up your hands first. My hands are warm. My hands are very warm. Thank you very much. They're not cold to the touch, Dave. I will take care of you, my friend. But, no, I'm holding.

Pearl's giving me the look like, what the fuck are you talking about? She can't hear us. No, she's just sitting over giving me the look like, what the? I was going to say a few things, but I respect Pearl too much. I'm not going to. Well, thank you. So what I hold in my hand right now is 120 pages. of gold and you say gold no this is not fort knox this is 120 pages

of a book called Roadside Memoir. I'm going to call them memoirs, but they're memories. This sounds better if you say Roadside Memoirs. But it's memories, because it's what it is. It's memories. And it's beloved and bizarre attractions from North America's past, and it's from none other than Mr. Justin Beam, who we have online right now. I instantly had to order this thing. Hey, can we get an exclusive interview?

I'm going to see if we can work that out. I'm going to see if we can get an interview with Justin about this book. As I die. He's dying on the couch. Yeah, from the pages of Remind Magazine. This is volume one. So I'm assuming we're going to get more volumes, JB, maybe? Hopefully if that column continues for another couple of years. Yeah, I hope so. Cause I actually subscribed to remind magazine and we get that monthly and I love it. The new episode or the new magazine episode or episode.

Plus, the new magazine that they sent has the Rat Pack on it, the original Rat Pack. So you've got Dean Martin and Sammy Davis and all them on. It's really cool. And Justin has his article in there like he always does, which is really awesome. But Justin, I got to go to you, man, and ask you where the idea came for this book. Why the book?

And also, what can we expect in the future? And the fourth thing is, is where you can purchase it. Because I purchased mine through Amazon, but I'm kicking my ass for that now because I could have got something very special. I got something special, but I could have got a little picture. Oh, I'll get you hooked up. I'm going to hook you up. But anyway, so let the people know about your roadside memories. Well, thank you for getting one. I really appreciated you ordering that up.

Awesome. Have you looked at the acknowledgements in there yet? I did. You're so awesome. There's so many good ones in there. There he is, man. I love that. Thank you. There's such good stuff in there. I appreciate it. So Roadside Memories, I got asked by the team at Remind. What Remind Magazine is, it's like an entertainment nostalgia magazine published by the TV Guide people. And I got tapped by them.

be the guest editor for their halloween issue back a couple a few years ago maybe like three years ago four years ago something like that and i remember i don't remember the time but i know that i was when i got the call when we actually had our first conference call is when i was up in northern michigan to interview judith guest for ordinary people and there's this whole crazy story about me being up there and

I interviewed Kat Stevens from her boathouse behind her house and stuff. It was insane. But that call happened on the side of the road when I was up there and the one place where I had cell signal. It led to this great relationship. And so that first issue that I did, I was guest editor for. I turned it into an all Halloween issue. And I know you have that issue, Greg. I know.

So the whole thing is all about the Halloween franchise. And it wasn't just me writing. I brought in a bunch of people, a bunch of writer friends and filmmakers. I interviewed Michael Dougherty for it and a bunch of other folks. And it turned out really great.

And then they asked me the next year what I wanted to do. And I said, well, let's do a Munsters theme. And so we did a Munsters issue for the following October. And I had enjoyed working with them so much that I didn't want it to end. And so I pitched them the idea.

for a monthly column that is kind of outside of the focus of the magazine it's not really like i don't know it doesn't it's more about pop culture than it is about this kind of thing so i pitched them on the idea for a column every month about abandoned and shuttered roadside attractions and amusement parks theme parks stuff like that and they were down with it and so i've been writing every month since then

And this book is the first 27 columns. Each one of them focuses on some different attraction or some of them were promotional things that happened. crazy story about a staged plane or a staged train crash to promote this railroad So it's not just amusement parks. I mean, it's roadside oddities and attractions and things, too. It's all the things that I'm obsessed with, like haunted houses and all the rest. And I really love writing the column so much. And putting this together...

It does have the text from the articles as they appear in the magazine. But because I only get one page a month in there, it's kind of restrictive in terms of, well, how much content there can be, but also images. But I've saved all those images over time. And so the book allowed me to expand these stories a little bit with more imagery. On many of them, I have accompanying stories or interviews that were not featured in the magazine.

tell more of the story of whatever attraction it was and there's some personal experiences that are in there for me it's kind of worming my way into abandoned places and stuff and it was just tremendous fun to put together And the folks at Remind and at TV Guide were so receptive to this idea. They're very, very supportive and allowed me to use the Remind name and all that stuff without any trouble.

they've been wonderful about it and the reception has been incredible too i think it's only been out like a week at this point or maybe two weeks and i've just been blown away by the reception because i didn't it's it's kind of an oddball book full of weird things and places i didn't really expect it to do so much but the reason for it you asked why is because i am i'm fascinated by people

That's my job, right? Like doing the documentaries and the articles, the interviews and stuff. I've always been fascinated by people. But the people who do this stuff, as I put it on the back cover, I'm paraphrasing, but I think I said. These are stories of what happens when people insist that their dreams should be reality. And that's what it is. Everyone that came up with all of these often very outlandish ideas.

All of these things started with an idea and the drive to bring it to fruition. And I have such deep admiration for everyone who does that, who goes out on a limb and does things that most people would consider reckless. Or, you know, not worth their time. Everyone here is seeing outside of the system. Kind of appropriate for a discussion on this Roland episode, because that's what I was applauding him for, too.

i have so much respect for that approach and especially in relation to creative endeavors which all of these are and so this is really a tribute to all the people who go out there and decide to really invest themselves in creating something that is really aimed to just make other people happy give them a unique experience let them get some escapism from the day-to-day the nine to five whatever

i really love everyone who's featured in this book and profiled and then like one of the pieces that i pitched a double length article on when it happened was on the

Forry Ackerman's Ackermansion in Los Angeles. For that, I interviewed some people that I knew were friends or fans of his, one of which is Mick Garris. And so I have a... he's in the article of course but also i in the book i was able to put the full interview with mick and then special effects artist jeff farley was friends with foray and jeff started going to his house when he was just a kid essentially

And he has great stories, and his full interview is in there too. And so there's definitely horror-related things in this for those horror fans out there, like the Ackermansion, the Wax Museum in L.A. that has been gone for a while with lots of legosi and karloff in it and then there's a haunted monster museum in virginia and that story is crazy most of these are crazy but that one this guy

Mark Klein is just such an inventive dude. He's taught himself really how to sculpt and created this place that locals thought was so evil that they tried to burn it down twice. And he kept on going. I mean, I have so much admiration for him and for all these folks. So anyway, that's the why. These people are doing amazing things, and I really wanted to celebrate them. And this book is putting all that into one volume.

And it's amazing. I'm telling you, man, lots of pictures, which I appreciate. The articles are really cool, man. I highly recommend. And I will recommend on top of that to go ahead and subscribe to Remind Magazine as well. I'm not just...

you know saying it because justin's got his article in it but it's a really cool magazine it's also some trivia in there crossword puzzles if you like to do that kind of deal uh with it's a fun magazine it's like a retro thing it's real lightweight prints it on it feels like you're holding history in your hands like it's a vintage feeling magazine and it has every month there's a different general theme but there are regular features in there like you said lots of games and stuff and it's

it's a fun magazine to be in for sure. Yeah. And it's literally guys for like a years around $15 or something. It's nothing that's going to, it's insane how cheap it is. Honestly, I don't know why they don't, you know, and i hope they don't because i'm a poor boy but i'm saying they they just really have it at a really low price and it's really worth it i'm telling you

Absolutely love it. I'm glad I subscribed to it and I will continue to do it as long as I can. Uh, for sure. But this book is awesome. I picked my copy up from Amazon. I just went on amazon.com and ordered it. Uh, the roadside memories, beloved and bizarre attractions. from North America's past, Justin Beam, volume one. But Justin, you can also order it from you personally, correct? Yeah, yeah. On my site, which is justinbeam.com, you can order a copy.

and so i'll sign it and send it to you directly i had to open the pre-orders on that like maybe a week or so prior to it coming out and i finally got all my copies just a couple days ago as we're recording and i immediately signed and shipped everyone's out and people are already getting them so yeah if you go to my site and order it It's the same price as it will be on Amazon or Barnes and Noble or wherever else.

But I'll be happy to sign it for you and send it your way. See, that's awesome. That's what I'm going to do. That's what I should have done. Yeah, that's what I'm going to order. And I can't wait for volume two where you visit Captain Spaulding's murder ride. I was just going to say, Spalding it there somewhere. We've got to quit making Justin cough some. God damn it. Just sends me over. Is it available at any of the bookstores north of the border? It's available. There's a...

The biggest North American, which is also, it's not just the US, it's also Canada, is called Ingram. And they're the main supplier to pretty much all bookstores that are out there.

can go to your local bookstore and order it from there and it'll be listed in their catalog i've seen on the ingram site that stores as far i mean even up in alaska have started stocking and stuff it's crazy because there's a major bookstore chain in canada called chapters and they get a whole whack of it i mean it's like the barnes and noble i'm assuming you know if they don't have it there i could get them behind the desk and they can do oh yeah no yeah yeah for sure

But I'm also happy to send one. Yeah, I'll just message you after I complain about the Habs blue line or something. The Habs won tonight in overtime. Hey, excellent. Fantastic. There you go. So I'm going to go ahead and once again say get this book, help support Justin. Go ahead and order it straight direct from Justin if you still have some more copies. If not, I'm sure you get some. And get it personalized, man. That's the way to go. If not, you can go on Amazon and get it.

it and that's what i did and it's perfectly arrived in two days and looks amazing and i'm glad i own it and it's such a beautiful thank you so much such a beautiful book absolutely uh so do that next thing up jb is your nominations Can we talk about JB's nomination? Oh, yeah. The Media Play News, which is one of the four industry trade publications, they're the only one that focuses primarily on physical media stuff and streaming, streaming and physical.

and they have these nominations every year for best releases in a bunch of different categories and i just found this out i think it was yesterday that bringing out the dead and hush were both nominated in a number of categories for best release best audio mix or whatever born on the 4th of july was in one of the categories too these are titles that i've produced the special features on

the most exciting thing is that bringing out the dead was nominated in the best special feature category for like overall for the whole year best special features which just blows me away and it's so apropos that it would be that project because that is so that that's one that i was pushing for for years and it took forever to get it to happen and everyone at paramount was so wonderful and so patient as i was getting everyone lined up

and uh it's the thing i'm proudest of is bringing out the dead and so that would just it would just be incredible i mean just to be nominated it's amazing to be in such good company within these categories with some tremendous releases out there and the public votes on this so it's not i mean so you can go on there and if you go to mediaplaynews.com

Just click on their vote in the 2025 awards. You'll see those releases in there. And so it's exciting for me because it starts from within the industry. Industry people voting, I guess. I don't know who's on the board or whatever that decided it. But then it's handed out to the fans, the viewers. And so that's who makes the final decision, which is so, so cool.

Even to be nominated, I mean, that's top of the mountain for me. That's amazing. I'm so honored and so thrilled. So well-deserved. And how long do you have to vote? Let's get that out there. Oh, that I'm not, I haven't looked to see, but as you listen to the episode, I mean, I don't think it's probably open too tremendously long, maybe a couple of weeks or something.

If you're going to vote, I'd hop on there and do it. I really appreciate it so much. Pearl's already voted, so it's all good. But I just wanted to see if we still had enough time once this releases. On Tuesday, hopefully, just head over to mediaplaynews.com. And head over there and find over. I'll try to post a link to where the actual voting, if it's still available, we'll put it over there. So to make it easy for you guys and gals, go to landthecreepstopblogspot.com.

click down at the show notes and you'll click that link and put some votes up. Uh, so cool. Thank you for bringing that up. Yeah, absolutely, man. We love you, bro. Uh, so let's head over to Dave. I want to go to Dave because Dave, you came up with a little cool little idea. You and I were just shit.

Falcon one night. Yeah. Yes, we were. And well, first off, congratulations, Justin, on your nominations. That's wonderful. Thank you. And definitely everyone go out there and vote. Yeah, we were. We were talking about, you know, my collection. And, you know, you threw out some movies. Hey, have you seen this? Oh, yeah, I own that one. Came up with an idea of just sort of opening up almost like a game of sorts where.

Anybody in the community with voicemail or sending an email, whatever, want to recommend, you know, someone looking to make a game of it. uh you know come out and say okay um you have any movies with uh uh you know kevin bacon and john malkovich in them or whatever And I said, okay, and I would come up with a film festival that you could watch and have movies with those two gentlemen in it. Or do you have any, you know, what horror films from 1974 to 1976?

uh you know what would you recommend and i could come up with a film festival for that looking at my collection It's something with DVD Profiler, which I have my entire collection built in. They have filters that I could put in and I could say, OK, you know what? What movies from the 70s with Faye Dunaway? You know, and it's got to be within reason. You know, don't come in and say, hey, you know, give me give me some movies that that starred, you know.

Greta Garbo and Meryl Streep. Well, it's going to be none. But, you know, just just coming up with like ideas like that. And I could come up with some from movies from my collection and say, OK, if you want to do a film festival on this topic. This time frame, this genre within this time frame, this genre starring these people, here is a good film festival.

uh, for you to do. And I'll try to keep it limited to like three or four, you know, some, some connect, some, uh, combinations. I might only have one or two movies depending on what you recommend. Other ones, I might have like 10, and I'll think, okay, here are the four that I would recommend you checking out.

I don't know. I just thought it could be fun. And it's something that I can do, you know, right online as as, you know, as Greg reads them to me or as I hear them in the voicemail, I could just go on to my. dvd profiler do a quick filter and say okay here you go here are some movies you might want to check out

So, yeah, I just thought that could be a I don't know. I thought that could be a fun and also a way to sort of expose people to some other movies that are out there, because if they're, you know, some of them. Jean Roulin is obviously not available on streaming, not as available on streaming as others, but maybe some of these movies in my collection would also be available on streaming for people to check out.

So that's what we want you to do. Give a shout out. Give a call. 1-804-569-5682. Let's challenge Dave if you want to do like a movie marathon matinee at the theater or something and you want Dave to come up with his personal collection.

Throw it at him. Like Dave said, there's kind of the broad scheme of how we want to do this thing, and he's not going to hear these ahead of time, so this is going to be on the fly, and I love that. It'll be on the fly for me as well. I'm not going to pre-screen. I'm going to call.

in and have something about japanese torture porn and you'll get oh i got i got a few right off the top and as a matter of fact they were from the from my birth year 1969 there were three right off the top there you go there's my triple set all right so it'd be something fun to do we'll try to do this uh you know as long as y'all throw something at them and uh we'll do that and it'll just be something fun so if you want to get involved with that

1-804-569-5682 and uh we'll challenge dave we'll call it challenging dave or something there you go uh pearl had did uh show me march 31st jb is when the voting ends so you got until march 31st oh great nice got a whole month left awesome and she was so gracious send me the link so i'll put that in the show notes so you can head over to land the creature.blogspot.com and uh click the link and you can go over and vote uh for your movies that hey

Throw your vote over for JB. Let's throw him over because you know he's done great work. Bam. Basically, Jean Roland is kind of... done now we're sitting here at the end of the show we've already done we've already done our our movies we've already done our voicemails we we've talked to dave we talked to jv by damn it we're almost done with this damn

episode but we got to go to dave and find out what is the next episode of lotc my friend all right well the next episode uh is number is episode number 419 it's going to be our top five horror films of 1992. And joining us is going to be the shot master himself, Anthony. I can't wait for his fourth or fifth because he's kind of like me trying to pick something a little off the beaten path. Anthony, if you're listening, I want you to dig deep for your picks. Go.

Go in there and find you some obscure Danish film from, you know, wherever, you know. Yeah, that's right. Hey, they're probably out there. Who knows? So the year is 1992. The genre is horror, and the mood is whatever. You can go whatever. Top five. Top five of 1992. Oh, my God. I know there'll be one that involves a lawnmower. Really?

Could be. Could be one involving a doctor that has a little... I can see them making several lists. There's one about a dentist that I'm... wondering lots of good stuff so 1992 call in 1-804-569-5682 uh you basically got about two weeks if you're listening to this as this episode drops on tuesday to get your calls in so go ahead and do that uh love to hear from you and let us know uh with that said i think we'll just pass this thing around and give our final thoughts and outros and we gotta

go to justin beam who once again i gotta say thank you so much as always for being uh so awesome and just gracious and loving to be on the show, but also for being a trooper, being super sick over here and still, you know, being out here with us, man. I really appreciate that. So JV, what you got in closing? hopefully i didn't hurt anybody's eardrums throughout this thing thank you guys for as always

for welcoming me on and such great discussion. And I'll say it again. I've said it before so many times that the listeners and the folks who call in are so thoughtful. I mean, it's, I hear. I listen to so many different podcasts. Very few have calls that come into them, voicemails and whatnot, with the level of depth and consideration, kindness and celebration that.

that the land of the creeps listeners do i mean it's it's just remarkable and here you are now 13 years in on this thing and it makes sense i mean it's it is a family environment and i know we always say that But it so is. And that includes everyone whose ears we are in right now. And it's always an honor to have a chance to come on here with you guys. I love Roland. This was a great discussion from front to back.

I look forward to the next time I can join you guys. And thanks for bringing up the book. All that stuff. Really appreciate it. Of course, man. You can follow Justin Beam. We'll have links on the show notes where you can follow his social media sites and listen to Justin Beam Radio Hour episodes still dropping when he's able. You can go listen.

to some of those uh good stuff man so we always love hearing from jb and then follow remind go ahead and do the remind magazine subscription i promise you you will enjoy it it's just a cool magazine that'll come in the mail once a month.

And it's got so many. Hang on. I'm going to turn around for one second because I've got it right behind me. Give me three seconds. It's in my hand right now. And like I said, the newest issue has a toast to the rat people. 60 years later, we're still thrilled by the kings of cool. There's common. in here dude there's there's pictures there's trivia man this is Sammy Davis looking so cool uh you'll have like for instance television series premieres

And this is January 9th, Rawhide on CBS from 1959 to 65. Bonanza, September. So there's all these little things. Back in 1959, pop culture. You got Cost of Living. In 1959. Like, dude, so many cool little things. 70s trivia. You've got, I mean, dude, I'm telling you, man, this thing is chock full and it's literally only like $15, man. And you get like 12 issues. It's insane. It's insane. It's not right, but I love it. So I'm not sponsored by remind magazine and I'm not.

doing this just for Justin B. I'm doing it because I fucking love it. And I want you guys to feel the love too. So get it. Remind Magazine. R-E-M-I-N-D Magazine. I promise you'll like it. Especially if you like your old stuff. If you like your retro. 80s 70s 60s stuff like that that's where you want to be is in a remind magazine uh so thank you justin bean so let's go over to dr shock dave becker what you got in closing friend

Well, first off, Justin, thank you so much for joining us and for bringing it even in your weakened condition. And I hope you feel better soon, my friend. Thank you. Thank you so much for. for joining us for this discussion of what I think a great filmmaker. And definitely get that magazine, especially with the Rat Pack on the cover. I love that. I actually have a playlist of just... music from Sinatra, Dee Martin and Sammy Davis Jr.

So, yeah, I'm a big fan of the Rat Pack. And then anybody who wants to know more about the Rat Pack, check out the HBO movie from the late 90s with Ray Liotta as Sinatra, Joe Montagna as Dean Martin and Don Cheel as Sammy Davis. Really, really good movie. Really good film there. Anyway, thank you so much for listening. um and uh my plugs are the same as always dvdinfatuation.com um i'm actually closing it it looks like in may i will hit review number 3000

Uh, so I'm still going, even though it's the 2,500 movie challenge. Um, I'm still posting reviews over there. Um, thank you. Uh, so yeah, getting to number 3000 is going to be kind of a big deal. Uh, it's going to be probably mid. It looks like I'm going to hit that particular landmark. I'm still on.

Twitter slash X, whatever you want to call it now, at DVD Infatuation. Facebook, definitely, if you have not done it yet, definitely join the Land of the Creeps Facebook group. Because like Justin was saying, everybody is very respectful and very intelligent. Everybody really brings it with their messages and with the conversation that goes on over on the site. I think it was several years ago.

Greg, we did actually have a troll come in. Everybody jumped on him. And that person was gone within an hour. Everybody got on him. Nobody tolerates that crap over there. So, uh, it's just very respectful, very, um, uh, very friendly and very knowledgeable. It's just a great conversations over there. Definitely. Everybody check that out. Um, other podcasts, uh, just real quick, you have the dad's new horror movies.

DVD infatuation. I just actually recorded another review was with Brian Scott for my series looking at my 200 favorite films. You know, with with somebody picking a movie they hadn't seen before and then just getting together and talking about it. And of course, the weekly watch list where Jay of the Dead, Mac.

count macula and myself get together and we just talk about a couple movies that we've been watching for the week and we do that weekly i think i'm not sure what the most recent one is but i'm sure we have at least 10 in the can for jay to release um and hopefully will at some point so uh yeah thank you everyone and i'm i'm it's now on to 1992 yes sir love it thank you dave let's head over to you bill what you got in closing tonight

Well, this episode was a lot of fun. I always love talking with Justin. I generally talk with him at least every two days. Not that often about movies, but I wish you best of luck with your book. I will be looking for it when I want. And when my paycheck comes in, I'll just ask for one directly from you. So congratulations. You're always an inspiration to listen to. And I know you can never tell me the stories of what, so what are you working on stuff? Okay. I'll leave it at that. That's great.

Have a great night. They have this cough medicine in Canada called Buckwheeze. And its tagline is, it tastes awful, but it works. So see if you can look like, to me, I take it because it reminds you that it's medicine. You go, mmm. like the medicine you had in 1983, but it will, it'll do it. So look for that online. Two pieces of advice.

Everybody else, it's been a great show. I was recently on an episode of a podcast called Chilling 3000, where for half an hour, they were looking for people to talk about hockey. So I talked about hockey and it's funny. I said I had played hockey. Oh, what leagues did you play on?

Well, it was my local house league. That's what it was. But I had some fun with that, so check that out. And I think there might be a recurring role of me from time to time talking about Montreal or the playoffs or what have you. Check out that. Otherwise, I've got a few other projects I kind of got ruined in the back, but nothing that I can announce. So make sure to look eye contact when you see somebody and just smile. Be good. Have a good day. And let's keep horror.

alive and for us pearl says hey to everybody and sorry she wasn't home but She was on in spirit for sure. But with us, thank you once again, Justin, Dave, Bill, and all you that called in. And we hope that you'll call in for 1992 as well as the Dave Challenge. Come up with something cool. Keep it in mind, it is a app.

that is limited so you don't throw nothing too difficult over that way because it might be like when it comes when it comes to like like sub sub genres that's going to be a little bit more difficult so do you have do you have a sub genre for nazisploitation could probably find some Nazi exploitation. I know for a fact I have at least four or five Nazi exploitation films. Plenty of non-sploitation. Braxploitation? Yep. Any exploitation.

You know, various exploitations. There you go. So call in, let us know, and let's challenge Dave and see what he can come up with for a movie watch for you. So with that said, we're going to get off here. Follow us over at our YouTube channel. where we're trying to put more content out as well as Instagram X and all them spots. And what we're going to do, like we always do, we're going to try to help keep horror alive. We do that one movie at a time, one review at a time. Until next time, peace.

I'm all right. I've got to make sure my setup is correct here because I think I might be... let me look at my setup here because i think i'm in the wrong oh crap how do i freaking find it settings there we go i think audio on video let's see Let me see. You hear me okay? Yeah, I hear you fine. Okay, good. So I'm good. All right, cool. Sweet. Hell yeah. Let's see. Let me get... oh hello what the hell was that that was the sound that happened just before i answer oh yeah

I'm going to bring Justin in. Jean Roulin. Yeah, I'm doing that too, Jean. Roulin. Jean Roulin. Roulin. Roulin. JB. I'll see you, but I don't hear you. Ne poussez le bouton. Jean Roland. Jean Roland. God dang it, I gotta listen to it again. Fucker. What's up, people? What's up, JV? Hey, there he is. Hello. It's Jean Roland. Jean Roland.

Jeez, you don't have to make it sound so snotty, Bill. It just rolls off the top. That's right. Pearl says hi to everybody, by the way. She goes, hi. Hey, Pearl. Hi. They say hi. I hope he sugared you up and doped you up. I hadn't sugared her up or doped her up. She's just over there watching. What's this you're watching again? Devil's Diner. She's watching the Devil's Diner. Oh, that was one of the cool posters. Sounds interesting.

Yeah, it looks kind of weird. My only thing is the dubbing always throws me off because this is what, Indian? Oh, is it a German or something? No, I think they're Indian. It looks almost like a... Oh. It's what? Asian. Okay. It's Asian, but the people talking are clearly American and they sound so you can't never get the same emotion. So it's kind of like dry sounding. So it's a bit out of context. Yeah, definitely.

But it's definitely interesting what little bit I've seen of it. So we'll see. Cool. Jean Roland. I did not know today was 13. I know, right? 13 years, Dave. I was surprised. It didn't seem like that long ago we talked about 12. I can't believe it's been a year. And last year you were a month late, she said. Yes, that's true. Yes, I was. So 13 years podcasting.

Wow. 13 on LOTC. Yep. Yep. That's right. Yeah. You're, well, you're probably at about the 15 year mark. It'll be this December. It'll be 15 for the, for the podcast that shall not be named. Yeah. I'm going to say with a host, you're not particularly. With a host that shall not be named. Yes. There you go. Who's the other one? I had the vampire. I had, I thought it was. The Iron Rose and Fascination. Iron Rose. Fascination.

Iron Rose. Fascination was mine, yes. Rape, grape, rose, fascination. Rape, grape, rose, fascination. Sounds like a plan. I don't even remember grape. Did we have grape? I'll give you a tip-off. It's the only one I liked. You're so stupid, boy. Do you like Fascination? It was interesting, but I couldn't. Three of the four I watched in French without any subs. Oh, all right. In fascination, I would have thought seeing that hardly anybody dressed.

But of all the movies, other than the Grapes of Death, it had the most dialogue. so i didn't realize that i i had to base on what i could pull out and body intonation and you know facial inflection and that kind of i got you all right cool so um Who has grapes of death? I do. Okay. So, Bill, yours will be... Why don't we second? It should go rape, grapes, rose, fascination. No, iron rose. Oh, no. Sorry. Iron rose before. Yeah. Yeah. Iron rose. So it'll be rape, iron rose, then grape.

and then fascination all right cool all right now i got them right and then there's long kiss good night that was announced kind of recently and then and the nominations Oh, yeah, the nomination for the media play thing. That happened yesterday or today. I don't remember. Oh, shit. Right before nominations, I was getting ready to say something. Oh, fuck. Never mind. Out the door.

Uh, Dave, we need to talk about your, uh, what we were going to do. The, uh, yeah. And I'm trying to, what, what did we settle on? Well, I'm going to, it's going to be a, uh, kind of like a challenge.

yeah challenge but i'm trying to i it's been a while since we discussed it and i'm trying to remember the particulars of it yeah it was um i don't have my phone right beside me because i'm charging but it was where somebody could come up with a word or a theme or something and you were able to go through your movies and oh my my yes it's like like a star or or

and i could maybe come up with like a group of movies or uh like a matinee or some kind of theater like like a film festival type thing yeah from from my collection to see you know you could give away one of your quadruples Yeah, no, I don't have any quadruples. Thank God. No, we're not doing any giveaways, but he's got a cool idea that we'll kind of throw out. I got the next episode. Pearl sent it to me.

Perfect. No, we should do soon, Greg. I don't know how far ahead Pearl does. It's just a Frankensteinian episode. We could probably do something like that. I've got a cool idea for an episode coming up. It's just one of those ones to ease the pressure on us. You just bring a movie, nobody knows what it is, and you just talk about it. Yeah, we got a couple cool fun things coming up that I think people will be fun having with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes!

Does it involve keeping my pants on? Well, it depends on if you're on. Everything involves keeping my pants on. Yes, please, you hairy beast. Okay. All right. All right, are you going to guide us, my fellow leader? We are. We are. 417. I just wanted to make sure he was on the write-up. All right. So let's get ready. It's all right. It's fascination. Remember that song, Rod Stewart? Oh, infatuation. I call it fascination. Let me turn this. This is driving me crazy. Why do you encourage him, Bill?

I find it amusing. Back in the saddle. I like sitting here and then all of a sudden you'll go oof. Pearl's telling me no. I pity Pearl. Justin loves it. Justin loves to hear me sing. Just wait till I start suggesting Van Halen or something. He's a good singer, guys. Yeah, see? Thank you, Justin. Unchained! Oh my God. Let's get ready. All right. We'll come in. We used to get drunk on 15 bucks. Now this was early nineties, but you know.

that's funny so i found buckley's listed on websites here it sounds it looks like they're available everywhere here too so oh yeah i i would highly advise they're not that expensive and you're gonna take it like there's a kid's version and i and i give ellen she goes oh no not buckley but it works So give yourself a spoonful. That's all I ask of it. It'll work, but you won't be kissing the wife after that. It's like in my childhood when my mother would rub Vicks on us.

Yeah. And as soon as she'd walk out of the room and I'm laying in bed, my brother and I would grab the towel, wipe it off and throw the towel on the ground. I understand rubbing the chest. Okay. There's, you know, there's probably some vague links, but what. rubbing on your feet do? That was another thing. There was one comedian. I can't remember who it was. I think he's a Filipino comedian. He was talking about how his mother...

loved this Vicks. And he had a pink eye at one point and she put it on his eyelids. So here you are, we put it on, he's like, mom, it's burning, it's burning. He's like, that's how you know it's working. That's cruel. It was like the other night, Ella had a, she's got a bit of phlegm problem. She coughs off a lot. And so I was looking for some Noxzema or, you know, some Vaseline. And I went into my jar and I got, no, but I have... Icy hot.

No, Bill. No. Different. Yeah, yeah. That'll get her up. Yeah, definitely. She'll certainly forget about the phlegm, that's for sure. Yeah. All right. I'm going to go upstairs and see if there's any games on at all. All right. Good night, everyone. Talk to you, everybody. Take care. Bye-bye.