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TC presents Black Glove Mysteries with Ian Urza and Greg Amortis. Welcome to Land of the Creeps Presents Black Glove Mysteries. I'm your host Greg Amortis along with Ian Urza. What's going on, Ian? Hey, I don't have one of my usual quotes for this because everything was in Spanish, so it was hard for me to figure out a way of saying one that was in line with the voice and the language that they were speaking.
All I'll say is I did enjoy watching these two films, and I was just talking to Greg before the show about how Spanish cult cinema is not necessarily my area of expertise. With both of these films being Spanish, it was fun to see, to watch these films from a different perspective, a more novice perspective.
greenhorn perspective of sorts where i didn't necessarily know too many of these people were so it was interesting to watch these films with that view instead of uh you know typically in italian films i know who everyone is and there's just a certain field of those films or you know everything is going on here it was a bit more uh foreign for me so to speak so i actually enjoyed that aspect uh with both of these films even if you know we'll get to it but i wasn't overly thrilled by
either one of them i will just come out right out and say that but still i thought it was an interesting watch regardless for both of them and they're both very different They totally are. So this is Land of the Creeps, episode 416, double double 56. And we are talking the volume one.
forgotten jolly or jolly i should say from vinegar syndrome we covered uh we are covering two of the three films in that series so if you do not own the uh vinegar syndrome forgotten jally set these are available to watch online i know ian you posted a couple links uh over on facebook group uh decent watch
links over there uh but i think there was only a link for one of them um internet archive for uh trauma um for the killer is one of 13 you can find it on tubi and i had actually been concerned that it was an edited version but we'll actually talk about this later that it is not an edited version there is no such thing uh this that is the way they filmed it
Yeah, this was available in 2022, as we will find out via Shudder at the time. So evidently it's probably off of there, but it was on there at one time. But that's what we're going to be looking at. Forgotten Jolly. Volume 1 from Vinegar Syndrome. Ian and I both own the Blu-ray set. And I'm impressed. I'm impressed with the set. Not as many features as I would like to have seen.
As far as bonus features, with one of the films only being a commentary, but also knowing that most of the cast are not alive anymore. And we'll find out a little bit about that, too. So that is what the episode is going to be about this week. So if you have not seen them, we're going to be looking at 1973's The Killer is one of 13, as well as 1978's Trauma.
confused with Dario Argento's drama. Totally different flick and also 1993. And I should point out, not to be confused with Rings of Fear either, which also has that as an alternate title. It was made right around the same time. Yeah, be careful because doing research if you go in and and i'm typing in you know trauma 1978 wikipedia and i get rings of fear and i'm rings of fear and i'm looking it up and i'm like
Wait, I've seen that movie, but that is definitely not this movie. No, yeah, it's a completely different film. It's actually the third of the Schoolgirls in Peril trilogy that Massimo Delamato was probably supposed to make before he... unfortunately died at a relatively young age. It does have Fabio Testi in it, which is a link to the first film in that series, obviously being What Have You Done to Solange? But yeah, it's a completely different, unrelated film for sure.
Yes, absolutely. So without further ado, we'll do this chronologically as we typically do on the show. If you are new to the podcast, by the way, welcome. Hope you enjoy it. This is our LOTC Presents for every other Friday. We have Black Glove Mysteries with Ian Urza and I. And then we typically have Mortis Vision with the Mortises, which is myself and my wife, the Twisted Temptress Pearl. This week, there will be no Mortis Vision, so it's only going to be Black Glove this week.
But anyway, so that is what you get if you're new to the show. And I hope you enjoy it. We usually, let me change the word around there again. We usually cover Italian horror, but this... episode we're going to be looking into some Spanish horror as uh Ian had alluded to so the first one up is going to be once again The Killer is one of 13 and this one was directed by Javier Aguirre and we're going to head over to you Ian.
So before I do that, I'm going to take the plot synopsis from the Vinegar Syndrome Blu-ray directly, the back cover. I just wanted to give a shout out to Troy Howarth, who would have this in Volume 3 of So Deadly, So Perverse, which is... about giallo films, which which covers giallo films from around the world. Like other other giallo like films from around the world. Basically, he doesn't have Spanish films in the first two volumes. So I just wanted to give a shout out to him.
I'll probably end up getting that book at some point. I just do not own it right at the moment. So unfortunately I cannot take a premise of his, but, uh, so, um, we're starting with the killer is one of 13, right? Yes. OK, so a recent widow has invited a group of family friends to her large and secluded country home. However, what the guests don't know is that the reason they've been assembled is because they're.
suspects one of them might be her husband's killer and she's intent on uncovering the identity of his murderer as the guests begin to suspect each other revealing long kept and sinister secrets in the process an unknown black love killer begins bumping them off and a variety of nasty ways a unique spanish take on agatha christie's off adapted novel and giallo source material favorite and then there were none exploitation auteur javier aguiri
I don't know if it's Aguirre or Aguirre, who directed Count Dracula's Great Love. The killer is one of 13. It's uncharacteristically literary in structure. but never skimps on its requisite bloodshed. I would beg to differ. Featuring some of Spain's top genre film stars, including Patty Shepard from Rest in Pieces, Jack Taylor from Female Vampire. I would also say he's in pieces. That's, I think, a bit more...
well-known and paul nashe in a supporting role vinegar syndrome brings a killer is one of 13 to blu-ray uh newly restored in 2k from its original negative and available and available in north america for the first time in any format uh sorry about that gaffe by the way i just had short-term memory loss So I was like, which film are we doing first? Yeah. So here we are with the killer is one of 13. And I had not thought I had seen it until Ian said, Hey, you.
reviewed it over on letterbox so i had to go and look and i did review it back i think i wonder if this was one of the films back in the day because i think i remember you messaging me me about one of these films be like is this edited yes i think it may have been this one or one of those
other ones but yeah it was definitely this one uh back in december of 2022 i'd reviewed this one so once i started watching it i immediately remember i'm like oh yeah i remember this one and one of the things i do remember about it is is it is notoriously uh feels edited but like you had mentioned was it edited So this movie lacks a lot of what you would expect when you watch a film of this nature where you basically had this woman who invites 13 individuals to sit at her table.
And her husband had been murdered. And every one of these... 13 guests are suspects and she one by one is bringing out clues and giving out reasonings why her husband had died and each one of them are kind of pointing the finger and there's some sleazy people into saying they're all supposedly of wealth they're all supposedly like owners of companies and yada yada yada not everything is what you might seem so you also have sexually enticed maid and then you got
the butler who has uh got his shenanigans going on so we got a lot of clues going on and we also have a lot of red herons in this one again so this one definitely feels shallow okay so of the two films we're talking about tonight If I had to choose one, this would be the one I would say, yes, absolutely a Jalo. Even though we don't get the J&B bottle because it's Spanish. We don't get certain items, but we do get a killer.
And we do get a glove and we do get some things like that. But overall, I'm going to pass it over to you, Ian, because I don't think you had seen this one before. So initial thoughts of this movie watching. I was a little torn because I actually liked it early.
on i liked the intro uh to you know like that whole scene at the table where she lays out who these people are and what their relation what their possible relationship is to her husband is interesting the problem is the movie just keeps plotting and plotting and meandering and meandering Until, you know, after an hour in, you finally start getting some kills. And they're relatively tame. They're not exactly well edited either. There's a whole lot of jump cuts.
and a lot of those kill scenes. And there's cut, there's like cutaways when you expect to see nudity a lot. So they were, I think they were really hampered by censorship with this one. And Callenger talked about this. in her commentary where Sometimes if these films had money for the American market, they would shoot additional scenes with more exploitative elements. She theorizes that this one probably did not. And that's why we didn't get any of those additional scenes because she thinks it.
wasn't edited we just didn't they just didn't film any of those additional scenes um sometimes they would do that because they had limited resources and like i said they just knew that this film wasn't going to reach the american market uh at this point in 1973 from some of the research I've done, the Franco regime was still in full effect with its censorship. And the next film we'll talk about that would not be the case. So that's why it seems to be as tame as it is.
You know, I mean, I'm not saying like you do get kills in the movie and you can clearly see what is happening. I mean, one of them is clearly done with an axe, but there's like a there's like a jump cut before you can really see anything. There's an up close stabbing where.
All you just see is like a little bit of a blood spur on someone's like robe or whatever the heck they're wearing. There's a woman wearing a robe. I think of that scene. I think the strongest kill is probably one involving a Garrett wire around someone's neck. I think that that's.
probably the best moment but for the most part they are relatively tame and a little bloodless i mean i'm not there's a little bit of blood here and there but it's it's very very much like in good taste where it's just like a close-up there's not really a whole lot of savage vibe so to speak um after the one hour mark though there are a few kills um maybe like four or five of them and that's about it none of them are particularly great but at least the film does get around to what it's
says it's supposed to do um at a certain point um i just don't necessarily i think it it's a little too little too late for me uh because i you know like i said i liked it early on but at a certain point it just becomes man it's another scene of people talking it happens over and over and over again and it just it becomes a little too stale had you started the the killing stuff sooner and it even if it was as bloodless as it was I think I would have still
liked it more like you could have maybe bumped my rating up by a point if you had gotten this stuff just a little sooner and maybe had more of a body count now as for some of these characters like that's the thing the reason why i feel torn is you get to know all who all these
people are like at a certain point you do know all their names there are a lot of them to keep track of but i do think the film presents them well enough to where they're easy it's easy enough to memorize who each of them are and all of them aren't particularly likable I think some of them are more abhorrent than others. I think Guillermo is probably the one that I dislike the most.
The Eduardo Calvo character, who's sort of a very possessive or distrustful, whatever word you want to use, of his wife. I think he's probably arguably the most unlikable. Simona Andreu is Harry Stevens. and is not supposed to be likable but his his his cattiness is is so shameless that i think you kind of like him anyway um you know he puts it on full display exactly who he is um i think there are a couple characters jack
Jack Taylor, who plays Arlen. Jack Taylor, who is an actor I noticed right away, because I've seen enough Spanish films to know he's like, he is a staple of these Spanish genre films, whether it be in Pieces or Edge of the Axe. Like, I've definitely seen... him before and he I think it's a character that becomes more likable as the film goes on as is oh what's her name Arwin Arlin something like that or no Arlin is his name um
But there's another woman, the blonde woman is who I'm talking about. I think she becomes a little bit more likable. You find out that she's sort of a trust fund kid that doesn't actually have the money. that her father promises her like she's i think because her father's still alive she doesn't actually have it and she works as a waitress or something so she looked down upon uh compared to most of these people i think the two most unlikable people to me are probably
Guillermo and Bertha Bertha who's like the on played by Trini Alonso who has the son Francis who's a creep but I think part of the reason he's messed up is because of how she treats him so and she's just she seems to just be very much
She's a very selfish character and just very manipulative. I think she's probably the most unlikable woman in this movie compared to Guillermo, who's the most unlikable man in this movie. Everyone else is kind of right there in the... middle i don't think you're necessarily supposed to overly like any of them because i think the movie is clearly um doing a class commentary on these rich aristocratic people being as unlikable as they are, and you wanting them to die, even though...
I don't think all of them necessarily deserve that. I mean, I don't think there are certain ones where you know that these people probably didn't kill anybody, specifically a lot of the women. I think it's even said at points in the film where it was just...
merely coincidental that they happened to be in London or England on the day of her husband's death. So I think most of those people you can eliminate from the pool of murderers, so to speak, even though all of them really virtually could have done it. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, and I'm with you on the, I think the getting to know the cast was fine, but I agree with you. It was just a sludge because it becomes so repetitive.
and it just needed something now we did have seven total kills so you know there is a body count so we do have that going but like you said it just took way too long for the kills to start And I get that you're doing a little plot synopsis and you're trying to get everybody introduced and whatnot, but they could have did it a lot quicker. This movie's an hour and 35 minutes. It feels like it's two hours and 35 minutes because of all the talking.
was my one of my biggest negatives of this movie is and it is my fault because I can't speak Spanish but at the same time I'm trying to watch a spanish film and i don't understand the words i can't see face because i'm having to read so much so it's like i can't get a feel of the movie because i am reading and it is a heavy heavy dialogue to movies so you do have to read a ton
in this movie and it was throwing me off a little bit right so i'm every once while i try to catch a facial expression or something and i'm like crap i missed what they just said like dang it uh so i felt like that was hurting me in a sense but overall i'm with you on the characters gilmero definitely being one of the uh more of the nastier of the characters definitely one that most people will root against for sure and the cast itself the thing that did hurt it for me was the somewhat
edited part of this movie because it did feel like i was not getting the full version of this movie so i was like well crap where's the rest of this movie i want to see it now And now we know that there really wasn't another part of this movie. So then I'm like, okay, we'll overlook that a little bit. But I thought the kills were actually pretty decent. The axe to the head kill was good. I mean, definitely a jump.
keel where you know they do jump camera in a little bit you'll notice that but still
It was effective enough. There's one with a needle pin to a chest that I thought was okay, but I totally agree with you with the wire to the neck was definitely the best kill of the movie. And I thought the reveal, I knew... going into it this time of course because I had seen it before Ian so I knew who the killer was and I had not forgotten who the killer was so I already had gone in knowing that so you know watching it you know you could see the clues definitely piling up.
But was you surprised with the reveal? I actually was. I did not see it coming at all. And even this might be a brief spoiler, but even... at the very end, it's implied that the killer is wearing something and that's what gives them away. And I don't really, I didn't get that. I did not get what that was a callback to.
Well, I don't either. That was something I was like, what? I didn't get that at all. I mean, who it ended up being still surprised me, though. I mean, there are some hints there, but it's not... i i think the person who it ends up being makes sense like it's one of those things where oh i maybe could have thought of this
Whereas if it ended up being someone else, I'd be like, really, that's out of left field. So it's not one of those things where if you were thinking of who it could be, it's a little more plausible who it ends up being. But it still surprised me. I will say that.
it did surprise me what ended up being yeah for me the first time it did totally surprise me so i'm with you and i think most people it'll be a little bit harder to figure this one out so yeah i give them a for effort on that so definitely uh good stuff musical cues this and what did you think of the musical score?
i actually thought it was really good um i remember there being uh some like percussion at the beginning and a lot of piano and stuff i don't remember it too much but i think the score for both of these films actually were were very the scores for both of these were very strong Yeah, I think the next movie we look at, the initial, I guess you would call it the theme track, was the strongest for sure. The rest of it was okay, but definitely that title sequence.
Alfonso Santestaban is the composer of the music in this movie. And it was decent. It was definitely decent. And you definitely need that in a Jalo-type flick. Did you feel like in this one that maybe too many red herons? Can you have too many red herons in a movie?
or do you feel well no because i like i said i just i think there were just certain people where i thought there's no way that this person did it particularly a lot of like a lot of the women i was like you know like what's her name hovin she didn't do it like it was just there were a lot of people here where i'm just like this i i don't think these people did it a lot of the wives of these rich guys i'm like i don't
think that there's really any way they did it and some of the others like uh martin the older guy with the glasses like i didn't think he did it so there were there were a lot of people where i was thinking i don't think that these people did it i think
I think it's, you know, Bertha, I think, is a strong possibility when, you know, when you see how cruel she is. Francis is a pretty obvious red herring, but that doesn't mean that he couldn't he couldn't have done it. So the people all the people. People who work for her, you know, that one, those are a little bit more possible. Even Ernest, Paul Nasche, because you always. Yeah, Paul Nasche. That was funny. He was in this in such a bit.
part apparently he just needed money yeah um kat ellinger had talked about how she thought maybe There was a bigger role for him and maybe he could have played the Harry Steven character that Simone Andreu plays. I kind of like Andreu in the role a little bit better just because you do believe his vulnerability a little bit more.
Because Paul Nashie is such a throwaway role, it really doesn't matter what happens to him, although I guess his fate is surprising given the fact that it's Paul Nashie. But, yeah, I mean, I enjoyed seeing him here. And, of course, apparently it's rumored that... it was in his contract that he had to have like a sex scene and a fight in every movie that does get fulfilled uh so yeah that's funny i did like i actually liked
screen time that he had i was like okay you know this is not a paul nashe films uh per se so it's okay to have him in a bit and i thought they actually handled it well i was like okay he didn't have to be in the whole movie throughout because of what his character character was and who he was so you know I was kind of okay with that but um the the
The car crash sequence I thought was hilarious. I thought the rolling down the hill. I always loved the rolling down the hill of the cars. You know what's interesting is I am not – I'm still not sure. I actually think that that may have been a –
real car going over a cliff i don't know if that was a miniature or not i feel like it was but i feel like the the car itself was already falling apart before it clearly before it started hitting the hill uh but i do think i don't think it was miniature i tried
to really pay attention to that sequence and I did not see anything that resembled miniature for me. I thought that that was actually a legit car going off of the side of that hill or whatever. I thought that that was pretty cool. I love the sequence.
because basically what happens listeners and we'll just give you a little minor spoiler here is the brakes have been cut so the cars going around these corners at high rates of speed and it's a curvy road so you know you're getting this camera workage of of like, oh my god. you just wait for it to happen. And then there it goes. Cool sequence, man. It was fun. It's cheesy as hell, but you know, whatever. I'm okay with it. Yeah. I mean, there are moments I liked in here. Like.
the dinner scene where she's calling everybody out specifically when she calls out Arlen about all the forged paintings I thought was fun. Um, the moment when, you know, Guillermo and Laura are talking and, um, He says something like, yeah, I believe that you couldn't be a murderer, but you are. I believe that you could be an adulterer, you know, starting his whole paranoia about her, you know, infidelity towards him.
are moments i like that you know the the relationship between arlen and hoven and having them fall in love i thought was pretty interesting like there there are interesting aspects of this the part when um the butler uh who is what's the butler's character name i do want to get that uh henry or henry i don't know you know spanish yeah um and lisa are talking about how he went in everybody's room and what he found and everything was cool like he's like oh francis has all this porn in his room and
just that the relationship between bertha and francis and how troubling it is it's just it is really uncomfortable some of the scenes between them like the part when he like puts his you know head on her leg or something it's just like You know, we're going into we're almost going into burial ground territory here. Yeah. And this guy is even older than, you know, the Peter Bart character is supposed to be a burial ground. So it's just the relationship between them. I just I found.
troubling to say the least he was troubling just the the sheer creepiness of this dude around other women too well yeah like how he's stalking around one of the maids and then that part when he like the part when he like grabs the glass or whatever and like breaks it and then the part when he's like trying to you know touch Hoven under the table yes the card game yeah and it's like she just and she's just so she's really casual about it like that would not be how that went nowadays no no
No, not at all. But overall, the movie... I will say it was what I rated it the first time. I'm pretty much there again. It didn't go up a ton. It actually did go up a half a point in my opinion. But I think that's because I've seen it before. So it sat on me and I immediately...
recognized it as soon as I started watching. I was sitting there thinking, why did I watch this? I can't even remember. I think it might have been, I don't know, maybe something because Shudder had added some or something. I can't remember what it was. I just remember
When I rated, I was like, yeah. And then I'm kind of, I think I was where you are, and I think I'm about probably a half point better than you, I think, on this one. I think I'm going to be a little bit higher. We'll see. Music was okay. Kills were decent.
slow slodging movie that really needed some pace issues and it really suffered as you said because this thing really needed to be an unedited version man to make this thing really impactful if it would have had everything that they were claiming it to have this movie could have been a really
probably two points higher than what i'm gonna get it i mean it would have definitely hit harder uh but it just felt like damn it dude like you know we're getting ready to to have this movie and then we're getting to edit you're like Okay. I remember watching this first time, Ian, and going to YouTube and trying to see if I was missing something. I was like, well, damn, maybe Shudder's got an edited version. Nope. No, apparently not.
Yeah, I mean, and I, you know, I actually thought I'm looking forward to seeing more of Patty Shepard, who plays Lisa. Was in some spaghetti westerns, but we're actually going to be talking about her again in short order. uh in my dear killer eventually she has a part in that and i thought i liked her character in this because she she has this sort of ice queen exterior
But on the inside, I don't really like this movie does not give you any implication that she wants any of these people to get hurt. She's just simply looking for her husband's killer and what motivated it. Because I think even if she doesn't like all these people, she's like, look, these people are my acquaintances. I brought them here for a reason to see which one of them.
you know killed or was involved in the killing of my husband i'm not really i don't necessarily want them to get hurt like when the deaths start happening you can see she's troubled by it like she's not you know she's not happy about it so i think that in a way she was interested
where she has this sort of femme fatale ice queen exterior and she acts like it, but when push comes to shove, she actually does feel some emotion for these people, even if they're not the most likable bunch of people, most of them. Yeah, totally. Director-wise, I got to give Javier Aguirre, I'll call him. He did pass away in 2019 at the age of 84. He stayed fairly busy, dude, up to 2009 was his final.
directorial thing uh but he did have 82 credits to his uh to his repertoire and it seemed like every year to two years or so you know there was a spell you know there was something coming out but I don't know what these movies are because they're all in Spanish, so I would not be able to tell you what any of these are. I've clearly not seen anything other than this by him. I feel like he did a Count Dracula's Great Love.
in hunchback of the morgue yeah he worked with he worked with nashe a couple times i was looking at his filmography and there are like three or four films on his letterbox that had a good amount of views and then after that it kind of like falls off a cliff where it's only like one
one or 200 people had viewed them. I mean, he compared to Komovsky, who we're going to talk about in the next movie, he, his filmography is not quite as well known or as impressive, but he still did do some work in genre films. And I'm curious to see.
Uh, if any of those films are better, I'll probably try to watch them at some point. I mean, you know, you know, you can only watch so many movies, but hopefully I live another 60 years and can see everything Paul Nashie ever made. There you go. So, yeah. Nice. Well, you got anything else? the killer is one of 13. Well, and I just wanted to talk about Simone Andreu real quick. I know we talked about him a lot when we did our Luciano or Coley.
spotlight but he you know he's a really interesting actor I really enjoyed seeing him again play a character that only he can play as well as he does this sort of shameless cad of a man but yet you still like him because he's Simone Andreu and he's giving such a committed and funny performance at times. You know, it's really fun to see that he's still kind of acting. I mean, he had a small part in Die Another Day. He was in the second Chronicles of Narnia film, Prince Caspian.
Just a few years ago, he was in the sequel to The Hitman's Bodyguard, The Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard, I think is what it is. And he's actually the main villain in the third Re-Animator film. And beyond Re-Animator, he plays the prison warden. still kicking and still does some interesting stuff. I love it, dude. And he was exciting. As soon as you see him on screen, cause we recognize him. So it's like, yeah. And he does play such a.
freaking sleazy perv in this movie. He's great. He's just shamelessly hitting on all these women in front of their husbands. It don't matter. If you're a female, you're getting hit on in this movie. I'll ask you or I'll tell you who I thought the killer was when I first saw it. I'll do that off air. Remind me to mention that to you and see what you think. I did like his character in this one. Once again, kills decent.
Overall, man, not bad. Not bad. Could have been a lot better. So what's your rating on this one, Ian? I'm going to give it a five. Like I said, I think if you had started some of the stuff, started some of the bloodshed proceedings a little sooner, it may have gone up a little bit if you had had more exploitative elements.
You know, they imply many times that there's going to be nudity and then the film just cuts. So if you had to add more of those elements, I mean, honestly, if you could combine some of the stuff we see in trauma with the story that this movie has, because at least this movie, even though it's inspired...
by an Agatha Christie story, it still really has its own identity with its characters and its story. And I thought that that was interesting. Whereas Trauma, we'll get to it, really feels more like a ripoff of Psycho than anything else. It doesn't have... nearly as much of its own identity of a film as this one does. So I applaud it for that, but at the same time, I don't really like the execution of it. So I'm giving it a five.
Okay. Yeah, I thought I'd be higher, but I'm actually with you at five. I had originally... had uh given this thing a two which was giving me a four i was at a 4.5 actually so i was a little bit over two so i bumped it up a half a point so it is a five for me as well and uh so yeah so out of the set so far we're at a at an even keel of a five. So not doing very well.
But they're forgotten Jolly, so there you go. Yeah, I think if this film had really been hard to get through, like if I wasn't drawn in by the story or the characters at all, then my rating would have been lower. But I was drawn in just enough to where I wanted to see what... would happen um i don't know if i'll re-watch this again anytime soon
But I enjoyed it enough to say, yeah, as a one-time view, it's a relatively average film. I will let you know. I have a hard time watching movies and remembering movies, but I will let you know two years later. It was fresh. I was like, I do remember this movie. So it did, I guess, have some kind of impact on me after watching it the first time. But anyways, just a real talky movie. Just a real, real long talky movie. And I don't understand the line.
language so it didn't work uh so let's go now to our final review tonight we're going to go to 1978 and we're going to go to a movie from leon kilmowski and this movie is called trauma and ian take away for the plot my friend all right so this is once again taken from the back of the vinegar syndrome forgotten gialli volume one blu-ray
Daniel, a writer seeking seclusion to work on his new book, finds himself stranded at a rural bed and breakfast by a strange and pruish young woman and her ailing wheelchair-bound husband who remains shut in his room all day. however as night falls a psychotic razor-wielding killer begins stalking the bed and breakfast brutally slashing the throats of its most sex-crazed guests whose bodies and luggage then mysteriously disappear the following morning a satisfied
trashy, low-budget Spanish giallo, which inadvertently also ranks as one of the country's earliest proto-slashers. Leon Klamovsky's... trauma aka violation fatal is filled with gratuitous sex and nudity along with bloody killings barely released outside of spain vinegar syndrome presents trauma on blu-ray and a brand new 2k restoration of its camera negative and and its longest version ever presented on home video.
bum bum bum actually uh watched this one technically twice so i'd never seen this before but i watched it and then listened to the commentary with troy howarth on this vinger syndrome so getting into the plot of this movie like you said uh i think this one a totally stark difference from the one we just watched because this one has a ton of nudity if you're a female in this movie you got naked uh if you and the kills literally all of them yeah
literally all of them and there was five total kills in this one and the kills i'll be honest were not the greatest they were basically right you know with the razor blade but you could tell it was basically push a button let the blood drip down you know there's no like real sin yeah that was that was one of the weaker aspects of it to me as i was like okay i get like i'm glad that
they have kills and i'm glad that they're trying to make them brutal but it literally it's just the razor blade just squirting like smearing blood it's uh it's like it is definitely noticeable oh yeah yeah totally but uh veronica owns a a i guess you would almost call it a b&b type scenario but she has a uh hotel-ish type house that she stays in with her and i'm doing that in quotations in air like you can see it listeners but i'm
her husband upstairs, and Veronica played by Agatha Lice, or I think Troy Howard calls her Agatha, Agatha? Agatha Lice is what we'll call it. Agatha Lise, I think. There you go. Sounds good to me. So we have her, and then this writer shows up, Daniel.
as Henry Greger, who is actually Heinrich Sternberg, who is the producer of this movie. And boy, is he a character, Ian. He's a very colorful character. I will say in some of the scenes, I'm questioning... his his manliness but uh they never really you know elaborate on it too much but i think you're meant to well there is a flashback of sorts that shows that he I don't necessarily think they make it too blatant about what his sexuality is supposed to be, but I do think they're...
they're definitely implying that he struggles with his performance, so to speak. I've got to do this too. I'm going to go ahead and do this because I think at the end of this episode, I want to do a minor spoiler thing or a spoiler. I do too. Because the way this film ended, I actually wasn't sure if it ends the way I thought.
thought like what how this gets resolved dude you're going where i want to go so yes we're going to do this at the end of our review we'll do a spoiler section so if you have not seen the movie it is called trauma 1978 Okay. Not Dario Argento's trauma, but 1978. Cause I want to do this spoiler session. Cause I got, that's the one thing I wanted to go over with you as well, but get back to the movie here. So the, the writer shows up and he instantly, uh, kind of.
Friends up with Veronica. She's all about making sure he's comfortable, blah, blah, blah. And she keeps talking about her husband upstairs, how they want to play chess, and that never happens. Immediately, immediately, something's awry. We can tell when she's talking to a chair.
Yeah, it's a little obvious. I don't think the film really tries to steer around it all that much. No, so you're going to get spoiled already, listeners. There's something off on here. You can tell immediately. Very attractive lady.
and she's up here doing her thing and uh we see this couple there's a young couple that shows up out of nowhere and you know we always know if you're going to have sex or get naked in a slasher movie and this feels a little bit like a slasher if you get naked you And that's what happens in this movie.
tremendously a lot. The characters, as they pull up one by one, murders happen, and that's just the whole movie. It's not a very thick plot. The characters themselves are unique. We got a... woman of the night or a prostitute i guess you would call her uh that shows up you got a young couple that shows up you got this boy that just randomly shows up out of nowhere there's kind of like a peeping tom at the beginning of the movie that daniel finds and then at the end of the movie which
We're going to spoil the crap out of it to Ian. And then you just got all these other characters. It's weird, Ian. It's weird. I felt like the second time I watched it, though, with the commentary rolling. I even appreciated it a little bit more. I actually didn't dislike this movie. I actually kind of enjoyed this movie, honestly. Yeah, I don't know if I liked it as much as I think you may have, but I...
I found myself enjoying the ride. I just think, as I pointed out when we were talking about... the previous film, I do think this film is very, very much a psycho ripoff. And I think that that is ultimately my biggest problem with it is it doesn't really distance itself from that film. I think as much as it should, I think it's. a kind of a gender swapped version of it.
that doesn't necessarily distance itself from it enough. However, I will say this, I like the atmosphere and wherever they filmed it, this sort of rural woodland, you know, sort of country. almost like a writer's retreat bed and breakfast area. I thought that that was pretty cool. Like the scenes where Daniel will go out rowing and stuff. Like I liked the scenery in a lot of those scenes.
And you can tell that they probably had a limited budget and could kind of just do it around this one location. And they use it to the maximum amount, I think. And it's good. The movie's never boring. It's very well-paced. like you said.
every pretty much yeah i mean every woman literally gets naked in it some of the men get naked in it too oh yeah which is funny um and yeah there's there's plenty of kills um i wish the the effects were better i think if if they had actually had a couple of the kills with better effects.
um my rating would have gone up even more than it did and even just us talking a little bit about how we felt about the ending and my rating might go up slightly because of that too because it just creates some some really good ambiguity i think in terms of what they were trying to say I just think Komovsky set out to make a giallo that was heavily inspired by Psycho, and he did it without necessarily distancing himself too much from...
the genre and the film that he was inspired by. So, you know, I think it reminds me maybe a bit too much of like, man, I'd rather be watching psycho than this right now. But at the same time, I'm not complaining about. about the end result of this either yeah i'm kind of in that same boat and it this was the one that i was talking about the stark difference you know the killer is one of 13.
is a shallow it feels shallow it rolls shallow uh this one we have a black glove killer yes but there's no red heron We don't have like who is the killer necessarily. So we don't have that aspect. So it definitely plays more in the line of a slasher than it does a Jalo. And it don't really play in a slasher mode much either, even though we have a body count.
Maybe we do kind of have a final guy, girl, whatever you want to call it. I'll just leave that alone. But overall, it plays fine. It rolls well like it's not. a sludge like i was actually okay because it's like okay here's we're going to introduce two characters we got two characters we have whatever happens whether it's you know sex scene or a fight sequence or whatever and then we have a kill and then boom we're on to the next couple so
It paces well, like it's okay, boom, boom, boom, boom. I got it. The few flashbacks to her husband were okay. The blue hue that they use or whatever to make you understand, okay, this was in the past. I'm okay with that. That's fine. Whatever. You could tell, I think Troy Howard talked about how the director himself was a journeyman. This was his last film, even though he did live...
I don't remember exactly how many years later. I think he definitely lived more than five to ten years later. This was his last film. He died in 1996. Yeah, he had worked with Nashie a lot before this, too. He was... If Paul Nasche wasn't directing his own film, Leon Klamofsky was making it.
So, yeah, he was he was Paul Nash. He's, I think, go to collaborator. I can't say that with 100 percent certainty, because like I said, my my knowledge of this of these Spanish cult films is a little limited. But I do think. Klamovsky directed a lot of Nashie's films if Nashie wasn't directing them himself. That's right. So 89 years old, born in Buenos Aires.
Aries, Argentia, Argenta. Oh, he's Argentine. That's interesting. Okay. I mean, there are some Argentine actors in these films. So that's interesting that they had a lot of... they had some of that, uh, South American pipeline in these films too. I mean, uh, you know, we talked about, um, I think George, George Hilton was, um, either from Uruguay or Paraguay, I think Uruguay, but yeah, they, they did sometimes have.
have actors from South America would come to make these films, but it seems like in the Spanish film industry specifically, they had a lot of Argentinian people coming to make these films, which is interesting. Absolutely. So the cast is actually decent in this one. I think the cardboard stiffness of Daniel actually works for his character because he's a writer, he's quirky, and his... It's also a little weird. He just seems weird and awkward. Especially those scenes with the kid. Yes.
Yeah, that's the main reason that I feel there's something there. So the young boy being played by Tony Garcia Jr., and I think Troy had talked about he'd only done like a couple other little things as a kid, and then he just got out of acting altogether evidently.
And Troy mentions in his commentary, there's just really not a lot of info about this movie out there. Because, you know, unfortunately, a lot of them have passed now. So there's really nobody they could go to to get information that was out there as far as, you know.
do a commentary or let's do you know some interviews and let's get these people and find out there's just not a lot of them left so yeah i mean and also kat had talked about that in her commentary for the killers one of 13 that a lot of these films were made on small budgets and
very limited amount of time so even people may not remember as much they didn't typically get a lot of american releases so even something like hey this film premiered in detroit in 1985 or something even that would be some kind of trivia fact To say, oh, well, that's interesting that it did get some kind of American release. And, you know, you don't usually hear too much about these films being American cult.
films like you know like we hear that with a lot of italian films but not necessarily too many spanish films that people followed them in america and knew of them and were seeking them out Yeah, totally. And here's the thing, too. At the end of this movie, toward the end of this movie, Daniel's wife shows up. How did Daniel get a wife of this caliber? Well, writer. I mean, if he's a writer, that might be one of the reasons why. I mean, you know, I mean, if you're if you're a successful person.
in any sort of art field. You might be, you know, sometimes you're... Typically doing okay because of that. Yeah, but we saw him naked. There's nothing there. No, nothing to take too much pride in, I would say. That was a horrible scene. I about threw up in my mouth. I don't know if Pearl did, but I about did.
threw up my mouth i will say this i did enjoy uh isabella pasano as eva who's the the prostitute yeah how um how outgoing she is about her sexuality i thought was was pretty interesting like It's almost like she... She has all the power and she's willing to, it seems like, sleep with anybody. It doesn't seem like it matters what they look like. So good for her, I guess. Yeah, there's no shame in her game at all. Nope. Nope, at all.
Music-wise in this, we mentioned a little bit before, but Angel or Angle, maybe Artega. Artega? I don't know how. I'm not. Artega, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. So I will say that. Once again, the title track, that main opening theme was really good. I really enjoyed that. After that, it was decent. But that really opening track is just strong. I really enjoyed that. I could listen to that.
Yeah, Troy in his commentary, I laughed when he talked about this. During those flashback scenes that are supposed to be not particularly nice, they play this very lovey-dovey. of music that doesn't really fit those flashback scenes. Not at all. The music was decent. Kills... really bad, I'll be honest. I mean, we get kills, but they're just not really executed well. Acting was okay.
Like I said, I think I agree with you. I think the Eva character was definitely one of my favorite characters, at least the funness of her. uh was fun it was fun uh but i know i actually enjoyed this movie man i'm not gonna lie i actually did enjoy it and i think watching it the second time even though i had the commentary rolling i could see myself watching this a few times down the road i could definitely uh i would
Pick this one over. The killer is one of 13 any day. I think because it does have a little bit of that quote unquote slasher, shallow feel, or the other one is just straight up talky. Maybe at least this one has some. some things going on, but the reveal at the end, not a shocker at all. That was just...
You know, we know that and you will know that there's no, you know, I'll go ahead and spoil the crap out of it in the aspect that you will not be surprised when you find out who the killer is. It's just not. No, but is it? phil i know there you go it may not be because that's what we're going to do so what else you got before we get into a little spoiler section
I mean, I think I pretty much talked about everything I wanted to. Like I said, I like the atmosphere. I like the location. I really liked Isabella Pisano as Eva. So that's about it. Other than, I mean, Troy talked about this. And I'm not sure, like, sometimes people's birthdays can be wrong, but Irene Foster being 16 years old. What? Yeah. Irene Foster, who played Anna, who was like...
The girl that comes in with Antonio Mayans, they're like the people who are going skiing or something. Yeah, the young couple. Apparently she was born in 1961. This was filmed in 1977, so she may have been 16. Are we saying it? Because, yeah, she was definitely underage. Wow. Yeah, if that birthday is to be believed. I don't know. Wow.
I mean, obviously, they probably have different laws in different countries around that kind of stuff. But, you know, it's very possible that she was 16. I don't, you know, it's hard for me to tell. But she looked older than that to me. But yeah, I would agree. And she's she only did seven character roles. So she wasn't someone where she stayed. Acting a lot, even though from 82 to 87, she was in 35 episodes of some TV series. Un, dos, tres, respondo otra vez. What's that?
Oh, one, two, three, responding again is what that stands for. Oh, okay. So she was a secretary, so I'm assuming secretary. There you go. But anyway, so, I mean, she did do some TV, but after that, then nothing. So, yeah.
Music score? I can't even talk now. I'm ready to get the spoilers, damn it. We're doing spoilers right here. Spoiler. So if you have not seen this movie, watch the movie first before we get here because I'm going to spoil something right here really big time. So you have been warned.
that this is spoiler all right ian let's take this over because i got to know something in your mind as well image of this boy showing up three times in the movie well we got the open the initial scene where he's outside staring in at the at the house right and then we have the scene where the guy is in the rowboat and the boy's swimming and he does the pervy drying them off and
weird pervy things there right so we got that and then we got the ending when they're driving down the road the daniel and his wife are in the car and then the boys standing on the side of the road and they're waving at each other I don't know if you're going where I'm going with this, but I got to say what I got to say. Well, I actually wasn't necessarily thinking about that. So go ahead. Okay. See, my thing is, and I'm totally.
just coming out of the left field on something then. I'm going to throw you with a curveball and see what you think. Is this boy real, first of all? The reason I'm saying that, the wife never... We never see him with anybody else. And the wife never... even acknowledges that that boy's on the side of the road when they're driving off. In fact, she looks at the husband and wondering why he's waving. So me...
I'm thinking, what is the significance of this kid? I think this kid is a little bit more in depth of a character that we don't know about. I don't think the kid exists. I think this may have been him, young, and he's seeing himself young.
I don't know. I'm just wondering if you picked up on anything. I'm just wondering what is the significance of this kid because nobody ever is seen with him and nobody acknowledges it. Or when I say that, the wife doesn't even acknowledge that he's there. She don't even see him.
and she's questioning who he's waving at so for me i felt like something was off on the boy character it's just weird it's just an odd character to be in this movie well and i don't want to go into any weird territory here But we're assuming, so he goes here. I don't know exactly why he goes to this place. It seems like maybe to figure out how to write, but could it also be to figure out his sexuality and this kid is somehow... helping him figure that out as not.
great as that sounds well that could be too though see that maybe there's something yeah that they didn't show on film that we're just being applied at the end with him waving and maybe that was yeah i don't know for sure that's just something i thought of but what i
actually was thinking when we were going to the spoiler territory is so we see him at the very beginning of the film with a black glove um and you know you see him take it off then he has this ring so that implies that he's married Uh, but so they set them up as a, as a red herring right away.
But at the very end of the film, when they're in the car, his wife talks about, you know, I can't imagine how bad it was for her basically making believe that her husband was still alive or whatever. But then he pulls out the razor and I'm thinking, was he the killer this whole time? See, that is...
I thought two things there as well. And he framed her. And it's like, again, one of those things where he went here to blow off some steam because of the way his life is going, you know? Well, and that makes sense because hear me out on this one. There is mention. with Veronica, how she said, are you going to write a story about me? And he's...
He's implying yes. So maybe his stories is that he's killing these characters and making it part of his movie or his book he's writing. So I can totally see what you're talking about. The razor blade in the car. Why he kept the killer utensil is totally something that I feel is maybe something there that maybe he did. She's a little off her rocker, but she's not a killer.
He is, but he used that. So I totally see where you're going on that one. I would lean towards that aspect, Ian 1 million percent, that he definitely got away with murder, that he was the killer. She was just a little off a rocker.
She was just a little bit cuckoo up in the head. That's what I would say. So the killer glove thing, there's another aspect of this. I don't... necessarily believe it either because i'm thinking it's too obvious when they showed him wearing the glove i was like yeah he's not the killer uh it would make sense that she would be the killer that she's definitely the trauma of the husband you know saying
that she was basically his toy, whatever he wanted whenever. You even see her having to undress in front of the chair at one moment just because he's like, do it. you know in her head so he was definitely an abusive uh manipulative human beings so i feel like that made her become that character in her mind so i feel that she did murder so i see it both ways but the razor blade in the car definitely was a clue that was like wow why did they do that why did they reveal it
you know right so i could see that i could totally see it but i don't know i thought we was going with the boy because i maybe i'm the only one in the world that saw that but i was just wondering about the boy i still don't think the boy existed i think well yeah it's very possible that the kid is a a younger version of him or something because yeah we never see
we never see him with anybody else or maybe the, the, the boy is someone from his past. Like we just don't, we don't really know, but yeah, it's an interesting, it's certainly an interesting possibility or theory. I mean, we don't have anyone. to confirm nor deny it. Yeah, that sucks. I know Troy Howard mentioned in the commentary during that sequence in the lake.
That it could have been, it does come off pervy. It does come off like pedophily. But at the same time, he did mention maybe because of Heinrich's acting and because of Daniel's stiffness. that maybe it just came off feeling that way but it definitely felt very purvish and pedophile uh for sure so i don't know where the director was going and i wish that's that's a thing that i wish i would know i wish
uh we would know a little bit more about it because i really want to know i'll just leave it up interpretation it'll be for whoever watches it to figure out themselves but i'm kind of leaning more towards you on the fact that i think he got away with the murder just the look of his face when she pulled the razor blade and he kind of gave that look and then he looks at the kid in the back
He's so cold the entire movie. It's kind of hard to know. There's not really a whole lot of emotion to him as it is. It's hard to know exactly what's going on there. could be anything yeah totally and and i mean the way that he was coming in with some of the characters too you know bringing them in so it just felt a little off i know like there's a sequence where he's coming up the heel and the young couples out there getting ready to or not the young couple, but the Eva and her man.
is out there getting ready to make out in the car and he comes walking up and you can tell he's perving around you know just peeking around and that's when he was giving the look so you know there's those moments if it's a slasher then there you go there's the killer he's watching you know he's he's preying on them so Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I just thought, you know, I'd like saying his wife, like I thought she was going to get it.
but she didn't, you know, she survives at the end, but yeah. Yeah. And you think she's going to be a not so great person. And then it turns out actually, no, she's actually a pretty good person. Like it doesn't, it's like, see, she seems really supportive of him. She's even like, Oh, if you didn't.
anything with that veronica girl i'll make you forget about her like it was she really seemed to have no care in the world that her husband you know could have been involved with someone else even though that obviously was not the case yeah
But yeah, it's interesting that she does not turn out to be... you know this person who's hostile towards him like you think it might be what that's leading up to but that's not actually the case that's right sandra alberte and she was actually in satan's blood from 1978 as well and uh
She's got something coming out, believe it or not, Ian. She's still out there, so they could have interviewed her. Why didn't they? Yeah, it seems like a lot of these people from the Spanish film industry do act longer. than a lot of people in these italian genre films like it seems like a lot of these people are still around and doing stuff if they're alive yeah she's got interestingly enough in production there's two things rough dog and los rescued
So there are a couple of titles out there that she's getting ready to do. So I wish I had reached out and found her. Maybe that would have been interesting to see if she had anything, even though she's only in the movie. uh she may have not even seen anything to be honest and she's in such a minor role of this movie she probably wouldn't have known much anyways but i don't know what else you got on this one uh on trauma
Nothing that I can really think of. I think I've added pretty much everything I could. Nice. Let's go to our ratings. Ian, where you come in for Trauma 1978, a.k.a. Valension Fatale. After talking about it a little bit more, I think I'm going to go with a 6.5. Bam! I'm actually going with a 7, my friend. So 6.5 for Ian. And I'm at a seven, dude. I enjoy this film. I'm going to watch it again, damn it. It's a fun freaking watch. No surprises. There you go. Non-spoiler done. Boom.
band. All right, guys, we got us a voicemail from Mr. Chris Bartoli, so we'll play the voicemail and then Ian will get to it. How do you think? Yeah, looking forward to it. Let's see what he's got. Hey, Black Glove Mysteries. This is Chris Batoli from Worcester, Mass. How are you all doing? I hope very well. I just watched Footprints on the Moon, and I just wanted to call real quick.
Man, I got to tell you, I really, really enjoyed this movie. This was really good. I like how you don't know if it's dealing with a mental health thing or what's reality, what's not. In that opening scene where they leave that... astronaut on the moon they take off i mean like how scary is that imagine being in that position where you know you're pretty much screwed and i get it it was just a well not really a hallucination or a dream but man i really liked it um
yeah i enjoyed it a lot i wasn't sure what to think and i mean if i had to like rate this just on my enjoyment of it i'd give it an eight out of ten easily and that could go up and it's one i would definitely watch it again and greg i know you um on your video i think you just purchased this from seven and i would definitely buy this one this is really good this is what i would watch again and i like all the all the stuff that you guys do like when you went over like the westerns
and when you did the American giallo, and when you did, like, the other Italian movies. But I like when you go back to the roots like this, when you do the Italian giallos, because this, I love these. these movies man so yeah that's all i wanted to say so i'm i always like to like watch at least one movie if i can that you guys are going to be reviewing so it's fun then so uh yeah so you guys keep it up can't wait to hear the show
and get your jally on. And so, yep, I'm starting to hang up now, and I've got a call for the downwater fishing. All right, get your jally on. Bye. I love it. First of all, Ian, it sounds like we're going to get somebody to buy that movie. Yeah, that's awesome. I mean, I, you know, it is an interesting film. I think either of us.
of us were overly high on it but i think we had a good discussion about it and i think he even brought up something about what i had talked about how what she's going through what flernanda balkan's character is going through and it could be a mental health thing where it's you don't really entirely know what's going on. And in a way, I don't, again, I think we talked about how it doesn't necessarily feel resolved at the end, but it's still interesting in its own way as a journey. Yeah, totally.
Totally agree. And, uh, we will, uh, like, you know, this was actually should have been on the last episode listeners, just a little disclaimer, but it came in after we recorded. So I just went ahead and saved it for this episode. So if it sounds a little off, that's why I mean, that's my fault. But anyway.
I do want to say, Chris, that I do appreciate you listening and calling in. Of course, man, and I hope you call in every episode. And we are doing more Italian giallos for sure. I mean, that's where the heart is. But I do kind of like going out those little avenues. But I think.
we're going to be in some jallows for a little while anyways with the we we definitely will be um i do want to um circle around to the the fernando de leo crime collection at some point uh but for now we're probably going to be reviewing Giallo specifically from the Forgotten Giallo Vinegar Syndrome sets. And the thing is, is, you know,
Because of, you know, that Giallo Realm channel on Odyssey and other places, there's definitely many more Giallo movies we can cover. Yeah, so stay tuned for that, Chris. And thank you for calling in, dude. We love you, brother, for sure. I love it, man. I love it. Get your jally on. We've got to get us a shirt that says, get your jally on. Yes, and as we're speaking, too, I just want to add, rest in peace, Gene Hackman. Yes, yes, just today, man. Yep.
And now there's new... new information coming out so we don't know what's happened man but either way man it's a tragedy and uh well and it's a tragedy especially for you know his wife or uh and you know uh their pet their pet dog from what i heard was also involved um You know, Gene lived 90, 95 years. You know, it's tragic under the circumstances, but he still lived a really long life and gave us a lot of really good movies and a lot of really good roles, was very versatile, playing good.
guys and bad guys my personal favorite being both french connection films but yes you know people have a lot of reasons to love him i mean he was he was great playing coaches in movies like the replacements and hoosiers and Even in a movie like Behind Enemy Lines where he's playing like the military colonel, he's still giving it his all at that point. Agreed, man. So many great memories of him for sure. So I want to say as well as Ian did, man, rest in peace.
and let's all hold up some uh some of your favorite gene hackman movies man maybe give a little bit of watches for them uh in remembrance but But with that said, we're going to hop off here. So as we always like to say, Ian, get your jally on. All right, so Ian, what are we going to do on our next episode of Black Glove Mysteries?
Okay, so we're going to wrap up Forgotten Gialli Volume 1 by talking about The Police Are Blundering in the Dark. And then we're going to start Volume 2 with The Girl in Room 2A. Bam. So do this, listeners. If you can get your hands on these volumes, definitely try to get a hold of...
Vinegar Syndrome's Forgotten Jolly. We are not being sponsored by them. We are not being given. Ian and I are spinning out of our pocket to buy these movies. But we did pick these up, and there's three movies. I'll go ahead and tell you what's on the Forgotten Jolly, Volume 2. set you got girl in room 2a the french sex murders and my dear killer so that's your three films on that but we are going to be doing
police are blundering in the dark, and girl in room 2A. So if you can get them, get them. Then you can watch along with us. Hopefully there's some features on these, Ian. I don't know. It seems like commentary is about the only thing on them, but we'll see. But anyways, hey, I'm glad I enjoy it. I mean, I own it. Hell yeah. It's up on the shelf. I'm good with it. So with that said, Ian, what you got in final thoughts and closing tonight?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram and blue sky at Erzanomics. You can add me on Facebook or on Letterboxd just by typing in my name. I will note both of these films are available on Tubi. That was what I was just looking up for a second. Nice. There you go. So check them out on Tubi.
if you don't own the Vinegar Syndrome sets. I'm going to attempt to go ahead and get volume three soon so I can have that as well. They do get a little bit pricier as they go up. There's seven volumes, I believe, as we're talking right now, Ian. I don't think they've come out with Volume 8 yet or if they're going to do a Volume 8.
Uh, once we get into five, six, and seven, they get really up in the $60 range and they get pricier, buddy. So that said, man, you can follow us at Facebook, Instagram, X, all them spots. You can also, uh, follow us over at the YouTube channel. doing a little bit more with the YouTube channel would love for that. I just recently had a guest spot over on Mr. Parker. I'll try to post a link over there for his YouTube channel, but Pearl and I was honored to be a guest over on his YouTube.
And it's on Spotify and everywhere else. But we were able to talk 1982, The Entity, and had a great time over there talking with... dave parker man it dude's such a cool guy man and uh i don't know how i know he is with you too but good lord i didn't want to quit talking man we quit recording and we just kept talking and talking yeah that's how it usually goes with him yeah yeah he's such a such a fun guy man love that dude so definitely check out
his YouTube channel, Mr. Parker, as well as his, I guess he posts them and he does. He posts them on like Spotify, different things as well. But his YouTube is where it's at, bro. I'm telling you, man, you get.
weekly updates and it's just movie reviews he's in the year 1982 right now so he's going through a lot of the year of 1982 he's had Troy Howarth over there and some of the oh man some of the giants of European cinema ian that we love so good stuff so man definitely check him out i'll put a link up there to his his show notes there so that said we're gonna hop off here sorry there's no mortise vision this week but have no fear i did pick up pearl
You and I picked up today. I was over at Barnes & Nobles in Jacksonville, North Carolina. I was looking through the criteria set. Ended up not picking up no criteria, but Ian, I did pick up the Twin Peaks TV series that I've wanted to own forever, and they had it at a good sale. Plus, I had... uh my membership so i got a 10 off so i do own that now i got to get the fire through fire walk with me movie so that's a criterion release i'll probably get that soon but
So maybe Pearl and I will do some Twin Peaks way down the road, too. So that'd be fun. We've got to finish Stranger Things first, though. Tammy, get ready. Can't wait for a season five. Oh, I know you're excited, dude. I know you are. So we're going to get off here. Do, do, do. Pay attention to each other and love each other. And let me say this, next episode of LOTC, we are doing our...
What is it? Oh, we're doing our Jean Roland, which is a French director. We're doing a few films of his. We've got special guest Justin Bean. That'll be the next episode you hear. And then we'll be getting into the year 1992. So that'll be coming up really soon as well. So, bam, lots of stuff on this fire burner. So with that said, we're going to hop off here, help keep poor alive. We do that one movie at a time, one review at a time. Until next time, get your jally on. Peace. Mwahahaha!