Land Of The Creeps Episode 402 : Director Spotlight Terence Fisher

The Creep's Whore Podcast. I'm your host, Greg Amortis, calling in from North Caggy Lackey. That's North Carolina to all you northerners, and you're listening to episode 402 of L.O.T. see baby and we are back man we're super excited with a themed show tonight the theme of the night if you are listening is going to be about mr terrence fisher we're doing a director spotlight

If you don't know who Mr. Terrence Fisher is, hang on, because you will hear some talk of Terrence Fisher, some titles that he was responsible for, and many other shenanigans, I'm sure. So we're super excited. So if you're new to the show, welcome. You got 401 other episodes that you can listen to and get a feel for us. Super excited. We crossed that 400 mark and it's been exciting. So thank you for tuning in. I do want to say up front, Pearl will not be on this episode.

episode tonight unfortunately she's not feeling too good so she's over hey love She sends her love to everybody. But we have the crew in, so let's go ahead and welcome him in from outside of Philadelphia, PA. He's from Jay of the Dead's new horror movie podcast, from his podcast, DVD Infatuation, as well as, of course, here at LA. LOTC is the Encyclopedia of Knowledge himself, Dave, Dr. Shock, Becker. What's up, my brother?

Hey, Greg, the March to 500 begins. Yeah, it's officially begun. This is our first step. Well, I mean, you and Ian have taken one step. So this is our first step, Bill's and mine. We took out one giant leap. That's right. One giant leap. Next week, you're going to release number 432. That's right. We'll do 28 quick episodes. Yeah, that works. I was going to say you've got like 14 micro reviews. Sure.

Yeah, there you go. Mini reviews. Let's get to 500. Let's get to 500 before 2025. Oh, dude, that would be awesome. Let's do like, yes, I will do 100 mini reviews and we'll pop them all out. There you go. Um, but no, it's, it's this, this is a, this is going to be an interesting, you know, it's always, it's always fun when we sort of, um, take a more specialized topic. Um, you know, like something like a Terrence Fisher who was.

big in the in the in the you know in the fifth well he started out in the 50s he went further than that obviously um with uh with with hammer and it's just um you know we don't often do this sort of a lot of times they're a more broad topic you know Or it would be something like Roger Corman or Lloyd Kaufman, where there's a hell of a lot of movies that we could talk about. I mean, Terrence Fisher, there's a good amount. It's not like it's paltry.

But, you know, not quite the same as if he was a producer. You know, if we were doing a Michael Carreras episode for Hammer, that would be a much bigger one. But it's still going to be very interesting because Terrence Fisher was there on. You know, he was there at the start. He was one of the founders of that hammer style.

Exactly, and I love that. You're going to hear some Hammer Talk tonight. We picked two individual films that we'll mention here in a minute, but two films that we're going to do specifically, but we'll be talking some others. We'll definitely get into some of his filmography for sure. So good to have you on, Dave. So let's go up to Canada, and we'll welcome him straight out of the butchery shop himself.

Not really. His butchery shop is his school classroom. And hopefully he hasn't butchered any kids today, although I'm sure he wanted to. But he is nothing other than the butcher man himself, Bill the Butcher Van Vagel. What's up, Bill? Oh, it's a great day today. One of my favorite directors we're talking about. And I escaped out of parent report card interview time. That was always a fun night. And that was last week.

And I just watched one of my favorite films, Pontypool. This is Ken Loney from the Sunshine Chopper calling it. Great movie, though. That really is. That's a great movie.

Anyways, these guys kind of asked last week or last episode, you know, who would you want to do one on? And I've been pushing for Terrence Fisher for a long time. Yes, you have. Because Terrence Fisher might not be... a household name to those who aren't hardcore but at the same time he did a lot of films you probably didn't know who the director was that when you look at him you go they stick with you

and he's got four or five iconic films in the industry but they were all pre-1972 and so if you haven't heard of him Buckle in because there's a lot of suggestions for you to watch. We'll give you a little bit of insight. We'll wet your whistle and get you going down the path of Hammer and the other places that he directed for. so let's get this potty started i like it so it's gonna be lots of fun but before that we always like to do this we always like to do our shots before the show

Um, so I've got my four face shot glass and LOTC, which along with this brand new bottle of Jim Beeman honey, I have not been drinking Jim Beeman honey lately, but this is actually a little bit different of the Jim Beeman honey. Uh, this is the third. 32.5 percent it's usually in a black uh bottle so this one's white i don't know what the difference is um i don't know it just says smooth and mellow so it's probably still going to be the same we shall see but i'm pouring it now

I don't know if you heard that. I love to hear liquor fresh. Make it a double, Gregory. Oh, no, no, no, because I got to host tonight. Oh, come on. Pearl's there to get her hand on the wheel. Sure, she could do it. But no, this is a one-shotter. But I had my Jim Beam and Honey. So, Dave, what you drinking tonight? I got my coffee. You're making me crazy? You're making me crazy.

I love it. That is the coolest name, I swear to God. And I brewed it about an hour and a half ago to let it cool down a little bit so I can actually drink it now. So we're not going to burn the... No, no. All right, Bill, what you drinking over there? I got my water with lemon-lime squirty juice, and I have it mixed up with a monster punch, and it's papillon punch. And in case for those who don't know papillon, it is en français for butterfly.

butterfly that i know thanks to the steve mcqueen movie from the 70s okay that's how you know it that's how i know that one yes not from school that's for damn sure hopefully it flutters down my throat There you go. Well, Pearl just sent me this little text that says, Jim Beam Black and Jim Beam Honey White are both bourbons, but they differ in flavor, aging, and alcohol content.

Jim Beam Black has a rich full-bodied flavor with notes of caramel, oak, cinnamon, and vanilla. Jim Beam Honey White has a deep, rich flavor with a honey aroma. Oh, Jim Beam Black is age longer and the Jim Beam White resulting in a richer, more complex flavor. So who knows? Well, I may pass out after this shot. Who knows? If I do, it's the fault of Jim Beam for, yeah, this big...

And Pearl will take the wheel. She will have to take the wheel. Somebody will. Jesus, take the wheel. This is going to be fun. So let's get our shot down. We're going to count down. Three, two. Smells good. One. Okay, it's... How does it compare? Honestly, it tastes the same.

I can't tell the difference. It's smooth. You didn't sniff it under your nose and find aromas? I smelt it. It smelled the same. I tasted it. It tastes the same. So I see no difference between white and black bottles. Well, there you go, then. Especially after four, you don't taste the difference. I'll probably feel the difference, Pearl said later. So maybe on YouTube, on my YouTube channel, maybe I'll do a taste difference. Get a black bottle and a white bottle and we'll do some taste.

testing and after three or four i'll pass out and that'd be a great video uh so we'll stay tuned for that all right so we are going to get into our terrence fisher we got a few phone calls that came in we'll get into as well uh so lots of cool stuff thank you everyone that called in for episode 400 we had such a great time guys with the calls and the questions and and freaking gary hill asking about the

What we would eat out of Bill's beard, which was hilarious. And I want to say I loved listening to it afterwards. I normally don't really listen to my episodes because, I mean, I hear myself talk all the time. But to hear Stefan sing, that was awesome. Oh, dude, it was so great.

And I actually, uh, Stefan and I, what's up Stefan? Uh, we had messaged back and forth a few times after that. And it was really cool, man. I just had to let them know, man. I had to sing with them. So man, I had to, man. I want to kiss you all. So I was trying to think of some mid-70s groove kind of tunes. Yeah, we got to come up some. Stefan's going to have to come on and do some singing. Stefan, I want you to do I'm a Joker, I'm a Smoker.

I'm a midnight toker. Playing my music in the sun. In the sun? Is it in the sun? Yep. So we'll see what happens. But tonight it's all about Terrence Fisher. It's all about the man, the myth, the legend. Well, maybe not so much that. But you can't talk Terrence Fisher without talking Hammer. And Hammer Films was a production company that started in 1934, guys. We know this. But...

They really didn't get started for us horror fans until really the mid 50s. It went from the 50s up into the mid to late 70s. Wasn't it pretty much Quatermass that kicked them off? Quatermass was the one that did it. Yeah, that sort of. And that was more of like that had some.

elements obviously but it was definitely the one that uh that sent them down that path exactly so during the period of the 50s and 70s we got a lot of those cool uh frankenstein and dracula movies and we got a lot of cool gothic horror films from hammer production company and then they they kind of folded

But then they made a comeback, and I think Woman in Black was the first release of that. I do believe that – One of the – Wakewood, I think, was one, and Woman in Black might have been around the same time, yeah. And is it still going – because I have – not seen anything else from him i had heard that the company that we kicked it off

uh, sold out and somebody else took over the rights or something. I don't know what the holdup is on them. Yeah, me either. And this kind of brings this up and this is a little bit off subject, but it kind of is on subject. And that is I'd receive. a message or message an email from a company and it's talking about Anchor Bay I've mentioned this to you Dave off air a few weeks or two ago Anchor Bay has come back

And you're like, what? They were always here. No, no, no, no. Anchor Bay had actually disappeared. Back in 2017, Anchor Bay folded. They kind of went in with Lionsgate. They joined. Anchor Bay has made their comeback now, and they are releasing the first, I guess you would call it, first three Blu-rays of the label. And the films that are going to be released is Cursed in Baja.

and abrupto or abrupt i guess it's abrupto a-b-r-u-p-t-i-o is the name abruptio or brushio or however you want to say that uh so these look very um I will say independent for sure. But I will go ahead and say it's on December 10th. The crust will arrive on Blu-ray and it stars Sean Whaling. Okay.

And, uh, that one now on crust is Vegas winters. Uh, and Sean Whalen, you know, from people in the stairs and he's been in a lot of stuff. He's all right. And this one, he's a former child star who owns a laundromat. One of the best. benefits running the place is finding all the leftover socks from his customer yes i said socks uh from his customers which vegas uses in creative ways after vegas becomes the victim of a bullion

He seeks refuge from the attack in the pile of socks. His pain somehow creates a monster willing to seek vengeance for Vegas. You heard that. A sock monster is what I'm assuming you're going to get. in this movie called Crust. Wow. This is sounding like something that is straight up trauma-esque, which I'm going to be all on. I'm going to be excited about this. So here it is. Sean Welling, who is best known as the story is the beloved Alexander Hellman. Now this one.

Is this the same one? It's best known as the story and beloved. The film also stars Daniel Roebuck, Alan Ruck from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, as well as... Oh, wow, Daniel Roebuck. Yeah, as well as Phyllisa Rose. Phyllisa Rose is in this one. Very cool. Oh, Phyllisa Rose. That's great. All right. So the second movie that's going to come out is called Cursed in Baja. And Dave, this is a neo-noir thriller.

So we got us a neo-noir thriller directed by Jeffrey Daniel Phillips. Jeffrey Daniel Phillips from Rob Zombie fame. Oh, okay. Very cool. That sort of explains Daniel Roebuck and Sean Whalen. I think Sean Whalen was in Four from Hell. Yeah, Three from Hell. There you go. Three from Hell. No, he wasn't the fourth one. Yeah, it was only Three from Hell.

Okay, well, now, Jeffrey's not in the first one, but in the second movie, which is called, once again, Kirsten Baja. Now, that was Jeffrey Daniel Phillips, as well as starring in it. It says, Pirelli. who is Jeff Phillips, gets hired by the elderly patriarch of a... patriarch of a wealthy family to retrieve his grandson from Mexico. The assignment is treacherous for the former LAPD narcotics detective and the previously hired investigator vanished without a trace while in Baja.

Beyond dealing with the dangers in the area, Pirelli must fight inner demons that lead him to losing his badge. Can he hope to rescue the grandson when he's falling apart in the resort town? So that is that one, okay? Cursed of Baja. And then the last one that's going to release all three of these on December 10th is A Nightmarish Trip to the Dark Side of Life Comes to Blu-ray, which is called Abrupto, directed by Evan Marlow. So it's created a world of life like human.

Puppets forced to commit deranged acts. Yes, it is Lee. Les Hackrell's life is falling apart. His job is a soul-sucking void. He's stuck living with his parents. Alice and his girlfriend kicks him to the curb for being such a failure. His life gets an unexpected jolt when he notices stitches on the back of his neck. His only friend Danny gives him the wild news that the bomb has been surgically implanted in his head.

Mysteriously, people text him messages with dirty deeds that he must perform. Les knows they will blow up his brain if he fails to complete an assignment. Les becomes flung into a life of extreme crime as he searches for any salvation. Now this one features an A-list voice of talents including James Marsters from Buffy Vampire Slayer, Les Hackle from, or in that place Les, I'm sorry, Christopher McDonald from Happy Gilmore. Christopher McDonald, guys!

Christopher McDonald. Oh, my God. You got Hannah Mae Lee from Pitch Perfect, Jordan Peele from Get Out and the great Jordan Peele, Robert Englund, Richard Fulcher, Carol Rudger, which is from God of War video game. The film also makes the... Final film role of Sid Haig, guys. Oh, wow. This has been around a while.

Yes. So that explains why Jordan Peele is in it, too, because you couldn't get Jordan Peele in this movie. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely not. So all of these are hitting Blu-ray on December 10th. And I'm actually listening to some of the synopsis on this.

dude it sounds bonkers man i gotta get my shit on i gotta get my hand on these man but once again these are anchor bay is back guys and and who knows what all they're going to release but looking at these uh they're definitely going really independent dave Yeah, they really are. So we'll see. We'll see where it goes from there. But anyways, I had to bring that up because of Hammer.

Hammer and anchor. But Terrence Fisher, let's get back into Terrence Fisher. Bill, I know that Terrence Fisher is your go-to guy. You've been championing. Terrence for as long as I've knowed you and to nauseam like Terrence. He is on my...

Mount Rushmore of directors. He's one of my four. And that's the thing, Dave. As long as I know Bill, it's always been Terrence Fisher, Terrence Fisher, Terrence Fisher. And I'll be like, what the hell's with Terrence Fisher, right? I'm like, what's the love for Terrence Fisher? Why so much? And I know you love your Hammer films, but go ahead and give your little spiel and we'll start talking some more. Well, I love Hammer Studios.

You guys are correct to say that once Captain Kronos hit the next four or five years, they slowly went downhill. But there was a stretch between 58 and 71. Where they were right up there with the major studios in terms of creating horror films that were atmospheric, that were decently written. Usually used the same crew of 15 actors and mixed them into every film they had. And I watched a whole bunch of documentaries on them, multiple series and things about them.

And they have a great atmosphere. I love the way they're shot. They're really great at, you know, long angled shots. They're really great at furthering a story and the dress. And the architecture and the gothicness and the beautiful women and the iconic actors.

And that part of England, and what makes me laugh is when they try to portray it as some other place. We know it's just at Shepard and Studios. Don't pretend it's anything else. It's at Shepard and Studios. But Terrence Fisher, to me, was my favorite director of them. He got them into the horror genre. I don't know. I might as well mention a couple of them in 57. He came up with the curse of the curse of Frankenstein 58. He came out with the horror Dracula and bam.

And he did some preceding it. He did some afterwards. The Devil Rides Out is an absolutely fantastic banger. If you like... the satanic panic films if you like seeing christopher lee as a good guy if you like seeing some really whacked out spiders check out the devil rides out but he did so many films that are touching the heart of many horror fans, that if you've never jumped into Terrence Fisher or you're reticent about going to somebody pre-1970, relax, enjoy.

And the other thing is they're known for their brevity. There's no two and a half hour films. There's no deep character plot thoughts about what they're doing. 20 years from now or with their boyfriend or elaborate a lost friend or lover No, you get your story you get what the plot is and you get it done And that's another thing I love about Fisher. He didn't waste time. He got to the heart of the matter, whether that's something you like or whether you don't. And so Terrence Fisher, for me.

You know, I mean, I wouldn't say that he was Hitchcock, but I would say Hitchcock would have no problem calling him a colleague. I agree. How about you, Dave? What is your love for Terrence? Well, I'm sitting here thinking about it, and Bill, you had mentioned how he did, you know, the what was it the curse of frankenstein was the first one and then uh just called dracula

over in the UK. Here it was horror of Dracula. Yeah, it was horror of Dracula in America. It was just Dracula. It was just Dracula over there. But what's really interesting... Um, and then he did the mummy. Uh, but if you look at that, that right there, you know, with, with, uh, with one little switch mirrors universal universal had as their first three, Dracula, Frankenstein, and the mummy.

But look at what with Universal, Dracula directed by Todd Browning, Frankenstein directed by James Whale, The Mummy directed by Carl Froond, you know, who was a cinematographer. That might have been his first directorial credit. But the three of them, the three movies for Hammer, Terrence Fisher, Terrence Fisher, Terrence Fisher. Now, there's something that's always been out there called the the auteur theory.

And it's not really a film theory. I'm reading a book actually right now on film theory, and they talk about it right in the opening. about the auteur theory, and they say, you know, it's not really a film theory. It's a critical method. That's something critics came up with to classify directors. It's not something that a filmmaker will employ in the production of a film.

you know, to make himself an auteur, that usually comes after the fact, where they're classified as an auteur. And basically what it means is, you can tell a director's work, you could sit down and... watch a movie you could pick it up in the middle and say oh this movie was directed by alfred hitchcock or oh this movie you know to more modern terms was directed by quentin tarantino or wes anderson

the style of the movie. There's a certain style, there's a certain flair, there's a certain pacing, whatever it is, where you can tell certain shots. A certain, you know, like, OK, there's a shot coming up out of a trunk. Well, I think Quentin Tarantino did that in damn near all of his movies, at least the first group that he was doing. So you can tell with Terrence Fisher, though.

Terrence Fisher's style defined not just Terrence Fisher, it defined Hammer horror films. Even the movies he didn't direct. He would have had an influence on him because he came up with the style. Well, him and Michael Carreras. I mean, I don't want to take it away from other people who were involved. Jimmy Sangster, of course. with the screenplays and whatnot. But as far as the direction, as far as, you know, that auteur.

It was Terrence Fisher. So Terrence Fisher didn't just say, here's a Terrence Fisher film. Terrence Fisher said, here's a hammer horror film. And even when other directors came in. And there were, you know, Freddie Francis and there were there was a good number of good directors. They were still adhering to that style that he set up at the very beginning. And I think that really is is telling because.

you didn't necessarily get that even with universal like nobody was really copying um todd browning's um style from the first dracula because todd browning It wasn't it's not considered one of the most dynamic. I love it. I think it's one of the greatest movies ever made. I love the first Dracula. But as far as the direction goes, Todd Browning. His heart wasn't in it because of the death of Lon Chaney, and that's who he was going to get to play with Dracula.

But then James Whale came in. James Whale, boom, he had a style. And he did three of my all-time favorites are Frankenstein, Bride of Frankenstein, and The Invisible Man. And that's where James Whale really came in. But with Terrence Fisher, I mean... just the ones that you know we just talked to i mentioned those three he did um the curse of the werewolf you know the um the oliver reed movie he did uh fandom of the opera

And he did a few of like the first few Dracula and Frankenstein movies, not just the first ones. He did the first few. So this guy was really putting his stamp on the look of Hammer Horror so that even when they were making it after he was out of the picture, they owed a little something to Terrence Fisher. And the other thing about Fisher was he's really good at putting on film and interpreting someone else's story. I mean, you look at something like The Hound of the Baskervilles.

which had been done previously umpteen times yes and it's just magic it's just magic and that's another one he did and that was right at the beginning i mean that was like right toward the beginning of hammer horror um and that was great And so, you know, and all the Universal ones. And what we haven't really said is that when Universal did their big monster films and then when Hammer got the rights, they couldn't put it.

in any way with similarities to the original right yeah so they had to come up with a completely different storyline a completely different look The makeup was already patented, so he had to look completely different. And Fisher had to work around all of this and weave together a coherent story that would get the audiences.

And especially that 17 to 25 age gap, what they were looking for and how to get them in while not regurgitating something that they already know. And he had the benefit of, well, they were shot in color. yeah and they could show blood i mean i you know when you watch dracula from 1931 there's no blood right but there's blood in the opening credits of horror of Dracula. That's what I loved about Hammer. I loved the addition of gore that they brought to it.

Especially in the latter part of the 60s. It was almost yellow-esque blood in 1958. Absolutely. And the other thing Fisher did is, it may seem tame now. But if you look at from, you know, his films from the late 50s, early 60s, he pushed the sexuality. I agree. And because, again, he knew his audience and it was at a time in America and in the world where you could and nobody would say a thing about it.

Right. Exactly. So he pushed the sex. He pushed the blood. He pushed the monsters. I mean, I think Roger Corman and him would have been a perfect combination. Oh, yeah. Certainly. I mean, he started, let's look, like at 1948, he's credited with his first, we'll say his first directorial debut with Song for Tomorrow, but it wasn't until 1957.

And that's when we got that Curse of Frankenstein you were talking about his first film. But listen to, let me run these off and then we can talk about them. I'm going to just run them off in succession. So 1957, we had The Curse of Frankenstein as well as Kill Me Tomorrow. 1958, we had Dracula, a.k.a. Horror of Dracula. 1958, we also had The Revenge of Frankenstein. 1959, we had The Hounds of Baskervilles, as well as The Mummy, as well as The Man Who Could Cheat Death, as well as The Strangers.

of Bombay. 1960, we had the two faces of Dr. Jekyll, a.k.a. Jekyll's Inferno House of Frights in the U.S. 1960, we also had the Brides of Dracula, as well as the Sword of Sherwood Forest. 1961, he gave us the Curse of the World. werewolf that dave mentioned 1962 the phantom opera you mentioned 1962 we had the sherlock holmes and the deadly necklace 1963 the horror of it all 1964 the gorgon

1964, The Earth Dies Screaming. Then we got 66, where we got Dracula, Prince of Darkness. And then you got Islands of Terror, 66. Frankenstein Created Woman, 67. Night of the Big Heat, aka Island of the Burned... burning damned in the u.s in 67 the devil rides out aka the devil's bride in the u.s 1968 then you had frankenstein must be destroyed in 69 and then we had frankenstein and the monster from hell uh which was 74.

So he had that run from 1957 to 1974 of just some really strong, we'll just call it gothic horror films. Yep. that some of them are really good, some of them not so good. But even the ones, I think you'll agree, Bill and Dave, even the ones that weren't as good, they're still redeeming qualities in them.

I mean, the thing with me with a Fisher film is he has ones that aren't as great. Absolutely. But even the ones that aren't as great are still at least a 6 out of 10. True. And they always have... I mean, there are certain things that... Fisher is good at, but you notice after you watch a while. He's really good at introducing characters, the characters interacting, but not belaboring the point. Yeah, he doesn't give you the satanic rights of Dracula, Dave.

He's not giving you a Stanley Kubrick. He's giving you 90 minutes. Oh, poor Dave does not like that movie, Satanic Rates. Oh, Satanic Rates. That's the one where Christopher Lee says about three lines.

yeah because he didn't want to talk anymore he didn't even want to be in that movie neither did peter cushing by that point they were just over it and then and it's like mostly taking place in like an office building or something it was it was office the other thing fisher is good at if you watch his films is long He's really good at setting the stage, going up those gothic hallways, up the stairs, across a field. He's really good at that.

Well, that's because he knew that people put work into these sets and into these into these. gothic sets that they were putting up, like the castles and the laboratories and all these things. And, you know, he's going to explore them. um you know one of the things i go back to with it was uh nicholas ray he made a a movie with charlton heston christ now i can't remember what it is but it's not that important anyway but it was set in um

You know, they built this entire town for it. Fifty five days of Peking. And they built this entire town for it. And Charlton Heston in his autobiography was saying that, you know, it was one of the most impressive towns, one of the most impressive sets that he had ever worked on. And he's pretty sure that director Nicholas Ray explored less than 50 percent of it. Wow. So when you have that, those great sets, it's it's.

Not just, you know, it's not just courtesy to the production designers and the set designers and the props guys and all that stuff to get them. It's in the benefit of the movie, too. I mean, how are you going to do a Dracula movie? without exploring those castles, those great sets? How are you going to do a Frankenstein without exploring those laboratories that have been set up by these people, you know, to make it look authentic, to add to that flair?

It's, it's, you know, he, and he does, he did do that. Terrence Fisher did do that. And you notice that when, when it comes to setting up like these, and these, a lot of these movies, they're set how many hundreds of years ago, sometimes, you know. And he captures that flair. You believe you're watching something that was taking place for the most part. There's one exception we'll be getting to in a little bit.

For the most part, you feel like, hey, I'm watching something that, you know, that is set in this time period. This list is convincingly looks like this time period. I agree. How cool is this that in 1958? This is going to make you laugh. In 1958, he directed two episodes of the Mickey Mouse Club. Did he?

Oh, I did not know that. Isn't that the horror of Mickey Mouse and the curse of Donald Duck? I was going to say he goes from Christopher Lee's creeping hands to Annette Funicello. Yeah, that's right. Fisher did is he had his favorite actors, right? But he also was dealing with whatever the limited pool of actors that Hammer had. But he directed Christopher Lee in 12 films. He directed Peter Cushing in 13 films.

he directed you know dave take a guess who was his number third most used actor um i'm just going to go out and i'm going to guess michael ripper michael ripper seven films wow and i'm literally taking this from the imdb notes but for something like this i believe it because you just have to look well yeah and and even if it was a limited stable like okay we had to keep going back to these guys because we didn't have a but what a group of guys to have

in a stable i mean you know peter cushing christopher lee and michael ripper that's pretty damn impressive and plus a lot of very attractive women i don't think you know that Just absolute beautiful women in these movies all the way up to the end. You've got Barbara Steele and Ingrid Pitt and all the hammer ladies.

the the other thing that was with the stable of actors was with the exception of perhaps peter cushing you could even call christopher lee a character actor what a stable of character actors yeah like they all knew their part. They knew how much they had to extend themselves. They knew how to get into costume. I mean, they must know the 1860s like the back of their hands. All their films are shot during then. Oh my God.

But anyways, look it up yourself. 1958, Mickey Mouse Club, Terrence Fisher. If you think about it, a lot of those Disney movies of the 50s and 60s had that same sort of glossy look. True. That's true. You know, so I could see Terrence Fisher fitting nicely into that. And he could just you could just make a Terrence Fisher film and it would fit in with those Disney's. Because when you think of like the colors and just the the artificial.

Yet somehow it works perfectly for the film, you know, with, with the, with the backdrop with, with, you know, of, of, you know, where cars going down the road and you can tell it's, it's a, it's a film in the back background, you know, that the. cars not actually moving or just the glossy colors and looks of those Disney movies that from the 60s, especially into the 70s.

that Thomas Fisher would have fit perfectly in with that. He could have made that transition to those Disney movies and he would have been able to keep his... his style, his, his, um, he would have been able to keep the Terrence Fisher of his movies there with them. Even if he's not doing horror, he could have, I think he could have transitioned to Disney. I wasn't surprised when you said that. I said, you know what, even though it's TV because.

TV had that same sort of, um, glossy look even for Disney back then. So then I could see him making that transition. Greg, I found you asking me, you shall find. Thank you. It is. He did, in 1957, a serial that aired as part of the third season of the Mickey Mouse Club called The Adventures of Clint and Mac. According to Wikipedia, Clint is an American boy living in London while his father is stationed there with the United States Air Force.

with his friend Mac, his neighbor, whose father is a Scotland Yard inspector. Like, you can see, like, is that that far off from a Hammer film? Not really. Not really. No, especially for a kid. you know that that's that's something for for kids that that would sort of fit nicely with that yeah it's kind of a toned down hammer film yeah so i mean if they were looking for that sort of content they were going to get it yeah

That's so cool, man. I'm looking at the actors. Neil Wolfe and Jonathan Bailey, the two lead actors. Not familiar. I was going to say somebody like Hugh Lloyd or somebody over in England might know who these people are. This is true. This is very true. So Terrence Fisher, we're going to talk two feature films tonight.

And I'm sure we'll still talk some other films as well. But the films that we're going to be covering tonight... in chronological order we'll just do it that way uh 1959 which is the man who could cheat death and then we'll go into 1964's the earth dies screaming really honestly I feel like Earth Eye Screamin' fits in the 50 range.

And it should be the man who could cheat death should fit in the 60s just by the titles and the look of it. But we'll talk about these movies. We'll break them down. If you've not seen them, definitely check these out. Because I think we can give spoilers. I don't think...

we'll go maybe full-blown, but I mean, my God, it's 1959, right? I think we can give a few spoilers out and we'll be okay. And Greg, they're both on Tubi. They are both on Tubi. That's correct. And that's a free streaming site, listeners. They actually were well transferred over. I don't know exactly where they got the prints from. They were not bad prints at all.

I was going to say, the man who could cheat death, the copy of that one, that was really strong. I wonder if it's a criterion. It was colorized, so I don't know who did it. I have the DVD of it, which is... bare bones i mean there is no special there are no special features it's literally you know the dvd menu is start film chapter selection and that's it not even not even a trailer not even a trailer on it now that is an old

DVD. They could have updated it since then and maybe somebody else would have given it a better treatment. That's interesting. So I don't know. I don't, I would love to know. Let's see. The one you have, Dave, is I was looking at the distribution. Maybe it was it. First release video was 2008. Now I don't see who in the world put it out.

Do you have the DVD? No, it wasn't a – I can look it up, but it's not a major label. I got you. It's a – Yeah, typically, like even on Wikipedia, they'll give you like if it's a – since we've mentioned anchor bay it would show anchor bay or it shows sony or it show 20th century file whoever you know this one actually does not uh show who but regardless uh i'm assuming it was in color now it does have a blu-ray release oh wow okay um i'm not recommending it at 63.87 oh no no no no

No, no. And it has an audio commentary by film historian Troy Howarth, which is really cool. I love Troy. I love Troy. An interview with critic and novelist Kim Newman, which is really cool. and an interview with author and historian Jonathan Rigby. So it looks like, and it does have trailers also, but it looks like it's sort of, it's going more the...

the, uh, the film historian route, uh, with the special features, but those are always great, especially with, with that group. Yeah. Oh, anything Troy Howard's part of is great. Yeah. So it, it. that's pretty cool but like i said it's uh It's $63. So yeah, the, the DVD that I have right now, you can pick it up for $4 and 89 cents. If you're just looking for the movie, hold on. And I'm, I'm there. I want to see who, um,

Legend Films is the studio, and this might have been the very first Legend Films DVD I ever watched. Maybe their first and only. Could be. Could be. It was a widescreen transfer. It was not a bad transfer, but yeah, it would be interesting to see this in Blu-ray. Nice. Well, this is the movie that we're going to review first, listeners. It's The Man Who Could Cheat Death, and it is an hour and...

23 minutes long, not even an hour and 30 minutes long, which I do appreciate both these films for being short films. I was really pleased that these were not two hour length of movies, but what I'd like to do is we'll go ahead and let Dave, uh,

I haven't even told them, but Dave, I'll let you do the plot synopsis for The Man Who Could Cheat Death. This is the movie that you chose. And then we'll do a few voicemails, and then we'll come back with our Sackett review and do some more voicemails. So take it away for The Man Who Could Cheat Death. killed to live. He is 104 years old. Your eyes? What's wrong with your eyes? Yes, look at him well. This thief of time. This man who could cheat death. who knows the secret of immortality.

I've been taking this fluid every six hours now. It's madness. It is what keeps me alive. So you see, you must operate. You... You know what will happen if you don't. Yes, you will die. Liar. Cheat. Murderer. Offender against nature and God. See the liquid that cheats death. See what he steals from the tissues of his victims so that he may never grow old and never die.

Anton Differing is the man trapped by his own fearful invention. Hazel Court, the girl who knows his love, but not his shocking secret. For sure, I love you so much. Christopher Lee. The doctor who gleans the monstrous truth and must submit to blackmail to save the girl he loves. If you perform this operation and perform it successfully, I shall really say. If you don't perform this operation,

Or if anything should happen to me while you are operating. Janine will not be seen by you or anyone else again. All right. Well, this is, you know, this was one of the early one, 1959. So we haven't even gotten to the first Dracula sequel yet, which was Brides of Dracula in 1960. So this is still earlier. for uh for terrence for terrence fisher um it was written by jimmy sangster so the imdb synopsis

A centenarian artist and scientist in 1890 Paris maintains his youth and health by periodically replacing a gland with that of a living person. Well, yeah, that's pretty much it. The writers, interestingly enough, are Jimmy Sangster and Barry Lyndon, but spelled B-A-R-R-E Lyndon. You know, I'm thinking of that Kubrick movie from 75. I think it is Barry Lyndon. One of the writers of this one as well. And it stars Anton Differing.

Anton Differing is Dr. Georges Bonnet. And this is set in Paris. Like it says, Paris 1890. Dr. Georges Bonnet, as it opens, he's he's. debuting a sculpture he's just done of a young woman. He has a very specific type of sculpture he likes to do. He likes to sculpt nudes from the waist up. And while he's there, his old flame, who he had known from Janine Dubois, played by Hazel Court, shows up with her escort.

Dr. Pierre Girard, played by Christopher Lee. The whole idea is that Dr. Georges Bonnet is, in fact, 100 years old. But he looks like he's in his mid-30s, and he's found a way. with the help of his good friend, Dr. Ludwig Weiss, who in this one is played by Arnold Marie, to not only live forever,

but never gets sick. He has not had an illness. He said he's not had a blemish. He's had nothing wrong with him since undergoing this whole procedure. The problem is, is that every 10 years, he needs a new gland or else he... he has this liquid that sort of keeps him under control, but he's going to lose it. Like he loses his mind and he becomes very violent until he gets this, this new gland.

The problem is that Dr. Ludwig, who is his old colleague, they've been friends for many, many years, is the one who would always perform this operation. But Dr. Ludwig has had a stroke. He is 89 years old now.

and he cannot perform the operation so they have to somehow convince uh christopher lee's character dr pierre gerard to do it all the while while uh dr bonnet and jenny you know uh christopher lee's uh or dr pierre's girlfriend are carrying on a very intense affair he's um janine dubois has expressed her undying love for

uh for the lead character it just sort of goes from there i don't want to go too much deeper into the plot again this i think um uh terence fisher and the rest of the crew did a great job capturing the look of 1890 now there's one scene that had me scratching my head and it's during the reveal uh where you see that um Dr. Bonet has not changed. It's when Dr. Ludwig pulls out a picture he has of the two of them when they were a lot younger. And you see Dr. Georges Bonet looking.

the exact same. And Dr. Ludwig is much younger. I mean, he looks like he's maybe in his 20s or something, and now he's 89. Well, the math, if it's 1890, doesn't quite add up. I don't know that they were taking pictures in the 1820s. At least not as clear as this picture was. So that was the only thing I was like, huh, that's kind of interesting. They decide to pull a photograph out to prove the younger Dr. Georges Bonnet. I thought that was maybe one rare misstep.

This movie is very dialogue heavy. It's very stagey, but it moves at a decent pace being only an hour, 20 minutes. So the pacing of it is pretty good. It has a bonkers ending. All right. I mean, like the last three minutes of this movie. probably scared the living shit out of people. Oh my God. You know, dude, it had probably people running. All I'll say is it's very Corman-esque. Oh God. Yeah. Well, yes. And one in particular. Yeah.

But but it is it is a very it is it is dialogue heavy. This is really concentrating a little more on story, even than it is hard. You get a few moments. And there's one really surprising one with me where with with his model, Margot Philippe, who has fallen in love with him, something happens and then something happens later on in the movie. And I was kind of like, oh, I didn't realize this.

Right. I didn't realize that this person was still living in the picture. Yeah, it was still around. And that was kind of an interesting little reveal there. um uh you know you see that the marks on her which um they never really explained how they got there did they no why his hands did that. It was probably just because of what he was going through. No, he...

Put his hand on her face and it kind of melted her face. And her arm. And her arm. Yeah, they did show that. They did show it. They showed it. They showed it, but they never really explained why he had that sort of power. I don't know either. I don't know because of the aging. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe the chemical he was taking was turning his skin acidic or something. I don't know. Or without the chemical, his skin turned acidic. I'm not 100%.

percent sure it was the cool effect it was a cool effect this is not the the dracula frankenstein even the mummy terence fisher but it is terence fisher telling a story, doing so very well. Again, though, it is going to be, you could see this as a stage play. And I'm wondering if, well, no, I don't think, I don't know that it was a stage play. Maybe it was.

initially but i don't think so you could see this as a stage play all right it does have that sort of that's well more of a better term that staginess to it uh but it doesn't mean it's not interesting you know it's a it's almost like i would equate it to maybe something like um alfred hitchcock's dial in for murder yes yes which is very dialogue heavy has a lot of things like that because that is based on a stage play it has a few

very dramatic scenes in it. But you are right there with it following it the whole time, and that's kind of the same way I felt about The Man Who Could Cheat Death. Yeah, this one was a screenplay from the play Man in Half Moon Street. Okay, well then that makes perfect sense. All right. And that's a theme you'll see through a lot of Fisher's films where you can literally visualize this being a stage play. Yeah, absolutely. So many of us.

films like maybe Dracula might be tough might be yeah that one's a little different this one I thoroughly enjoyed I loved I didn't mind the dialogue I was really into this story especially because it's interesting it is the characters are you You know, I thought Anton Differing did a good job as Dr. Georges Burnet and Christopher Lee, of course, doing his is doing Christopher Lee. And in this one, he's he's more a heroic character. He's, you know, he's more.

above board than Dr. Bonet. So yeah, I really did. I'm with you. I was right there with it. I was following the story. I was... I was in tune with it. And I'm like, you know what? And it's like a lot of them. It's not a great big investment in time. No, and I was shocked that they found somebody the same height as Christopher Lee with Inspector LeGray played by Francis Day Wolf. Like, there were some scenes when Francis stood up, and I'm like...

He's just as tall as fucking Christopher Lee. Yes, I know. Because Christopher Lee was a tall individual. I was going to say, he's got an amazing mustache. Oh, man, it was a great one. It's almost a character to itself. It was. It's almost like it wanted to fly away or whatever. I don't know. I really enjoyed it. It's got beautiful women in it. Hazel Court, who was in a few Hammer films. And, Bill, you'll love this. Of course, The Mask of the Red Death.

favorite films. I love that. I was just going to say a Fisher and Corman were playing off each other for about 10 years there. And I can almost guarantee the Poe films were a direct, you know, his stance on, or his take on a hand. film oh absolutely yeah you definitely have they definitely have that gothic look

Yeah, I really, though, I love the movie. I love the thing that they did with the eyeballs in this one, which when there's a scene where early on, when we find out that something's a little off, right? Dr. Bonet goes to... get his green liquid and he's a little late and the actress uh i think it was janine no it wasn't janine it was margo at the time uh says something he's like you know it's too late and he turns around in his eyes and she's like your eyes and i thought it was really cool

because they kind of used this same thing in the other film that we're going to review here in a little bit, minus the fact that these weren't just clear eyes. These were regular eyes, but for some reason, they just looked...

Weird. I don't know what they did. If I recall, kind of greenish? Yeah, I don't know what it was. They're white with, like, green, and they just look fake, but I don't think, I don't know how they did it. I don't know if it was with the coloring of the movie. I don't know how they did it, but it was actually really cool.

effect for me i really enjoyed it but no i thoroughly man i'd never seen this movie and i had a lot of fun man is it great no but it's still fun like i could watch this thing that's what i love about the hammer films they may not always be the best but they're an enjoyable watch exactly

You get something out of it. You could play this in the background, do whatever you're doing, look up every once in a while and just have a good time with it. This is one of those films where you invite some drunks over and get drunk and hammered and you can see them. Watch this movie. Look at that fucker's eyes. Look at his eyes. The hammered. That could be a new podcast. The hammered watch hammer. Hey, if somebody does that.

Dave said it, so he gets credit for that, by the way. I think Bill said it first. Okay. All right. Well, I think Bill said it first. Okay. Well, whoever said it first gets credit for it. So there, somebody steals that. I was going to say, unless I make any money off it, anybody can take credit off it. There you go. Yeah. So, Bill, would.

you think though i know i'm gushing but what do you think i i enjoyed it it's not in my top five fisher films but it's an enjoyable film it's one of these films where it's a mad scientist film of sorts but it's a mad scientist film where you're chasing youth and it's and you know later on hammer would do this with a movie like countess dracula or conenberg with rabid it's of that ilk

And this one might have been one of the first that did it. I'm not 100% sure on that. Anton Differing is definitely a stickler for accurate time. Don't bother him when he's in front of the mirror and you want to speak to him. Just let him do his thing. There are some really good lines. When Differing is talking to Dr. Weiss, he's very blunt. He goes, you are old. You see death in the face. Who the hell would say that to a friend? Really? Right. You're really old.

You are correct. There's a lot of dialogue without a lot of action with the odd thing here and there, usually with the experiments in the lab. That's generally where the action takes place or in a, in a hallway or something. Right. One of the other one line I wrote down is have you become God all of a sudden, you know, like they, that's what Christopher Lee says to differing.

For 1959, there's a lot of moral questions that get answered and asked in this film. Basically, Christopher Lee says, are you God? Are you playing the hand of God that can make the difference between living and not and young and not? And it's a different type of role. The only other role like this that I've seen Christopher Lee in is.

The Devil Rides Out. That's the only other film I've seen him in a role where he's not the baddie. Right. He's not the baddie in this one. No, he's not. And I think he plays that role just as well.

as he plays the but now it's it wouldn't make my top five terence uh fisher movies either i think in in a world where you have like horror of dracula and the devil rides out you know it's it's kind of hard to to put this one in that but that doesn't mean it's any less um any less enjoyable i i found it very very enjoyable anyway

The other question I asked myself was, how often does Christopher Lee make the proper moral decision in any of his films? Yeah, I mean, he does the whole way around here. I mean, he's like a, he's like a good guy. Like, even though you, you can see like the, the, the, the intense love between, uh, the Dr. Bonet and, and Janine. you're kind of thinking, you know what, she probably needs to go with Christopher Lee. Because...

He's he really is the he's the better guy. And and there's a scene where I'm just like he was like he's supposed to perform an operation. Well, something happens with with regard to to Dr. Ludwig. And you're kind of like. You're kind of thinking about Bonet. You're like, dude, you screwed up Royal. Because Christopher, he was ready to do it. But this guy, I don't want to go into it. That's a spoiler. So I don't want to go any further into it. But you're just kind of like.

What the hell? I understand you're kind of losing your shit sometimes, but... You weren't losing it as bad that time as you did the first time. You should have been able to control that a little bit. But the other question with this is, you know, there is an element of this being a love story. Yeah. And, and how that kind of plays out. Cause you don't often see that in a Fisher. Well, there's usually a woman involved, but you know, the, the love angle actually plays into the plot.

It does. More than just, you know, just a fling on the side or something. So Hazel Court is a heck of an actress. she did she did a great job and man you got a little uh for for 1959 now you don't see any nudity but she was sitting there topless you know posing for him

I mean, you see a bare back. Yeah, I read in the European cut that she actually did show her breasts, that she did agree to do it. And it is out there in a European... release somewhere that damn europe gets all the good shit but she only agreed to do it if it was not uh gratuitous and she also agreed to do it with a skeleton crew she said it was terrifying yet exciting at the same time and then she found it strange because they said that the nude scenes actually helped sell tickets

Well, duh. And then she said that they actually asked her to come in and take photographs of her nude. So she agreed thinking, okay, where are they going to use these? And she said that she thought later on that, you know, these are probably going to pop. She is out there nude somewhere on a European cut of this film. It may be on that Blu-ray. Who knows? From a pure acting point of view, I thought she was brilliant.

She did a really good job. She was really good. I think Delphi Lawrence, as Margot Philippe did a good job as well. Did you also get the feel that this film kind of felt also kind of like an API film? Yep. Yeah, very much so. Very much so. But I think that's of the time. I think any film from this era would have kind of felt API-ish. My thing is here is the fact that Peter Cushion originally was slated to be the doctor.

I'm actually excited that it wasn't Peter Cushion because we got such an influx of Peter Cushion movies in those periods that it was good to see somebody else minus him and Christopher Lee together. This would have just become another. Exactly.

Peter Cushing's performances. Another Cushing Lee movie. This guy makes it stand out. Yeah, another. This being Anton Differing, you know, it makes it stand out a little more. And I think his foreign background really greatly affected the film in a positive way.

way i thought it was great having someone slightly different than their normal stable of actors in there agreed agreed so that that worked out well i'm actually pleased that it's not another cushion leave movie that this is the difference so and the other thing i loved seeing in the first three minutes of the film michael ripper as a drunk

he's always he's the drunk or he's the bartender he's usually on either side of the bar oh my god but this has some cool scenes in it man i really enjoyed the uh one scene where he goes to he's already uh we already have the reveal that he's 104 years old we already had the reveal of the doctor coming in to help him right you know and then we have the moment where

the doctor is going to help perform this procedure. Christopher Lee is going to do the job, but he's going to be there, right? The other doctor is going to be there to help out. But then he's like, change of plans he's like I'm not going to do it and we have that struggle between him and Dr. Bonet and he drops or he destroys the glass with the liquid which it says it takes two years to uh to create or whatever and Pearl's like

if you knew it took two years, why wouldn't you already have more backup, right? And I'm like, yeah, exactly. Why would you not be? Well, I half expected him to be licking the floor. Well, he does, kind of. He goes down and literally scoops up.

grabbing everything he could to put into that jar but here's my thing with that here's the scenario he had to start he's been doing this for some time now and it has uh slowly and now it's gradually ramped up to where he has to take this liquid every six hours okay so every six hours we're revealed now when he break that glass

He's able to get enough off the ground for the liquid that he drunk, which was six hours. So from six hours, he supposedly had time to go around and try to find another doctor. He was able to go around and do all these. I'm like. Like, bullshit. Like, dude, there's no fucking way. You know what? The scene I actually really loved was when he was as desperate as he was. And he goes to that one guy. Yeah.

And you could tell this was shaky hand, shady sort of doctor. And, and he's like, okay, he's pulling his, um, his, his equipment out of this safe. And he's like, those are filthy. You'll use the ones in my lab. And then the guy's pouring a drink. He's like, oh yeah, I'd just like to have one before I perform. And then at that point, this guy's like, you know what?

No. I'm going to die anyway if I let this guy do it. I'm out. He has the shakiest hands in the West, like his guy's hands. He can't keep them straight. Only Dr. Ludwig had shakier hands, and the poor guy had a stroke and was 89 years old.

old this guy is just like so so even with all of that as desperate as he was he's like you know what uh no this guy will kill me i've got to go back to i got to go back to christopher oh god so so hilarious man that was that's the funny moment it's almost that that dumb cop moment you know right because the guy's like hey wait wait are you gonna wait for me it's like No, dude. He's out. Yeah. I'm out of here. I love it.

No, the cast is good in this one. The story I thought was really good. I just had a lot of fun, guys. This is just a fun film. And you said it, Bill. It's not the best of Hammer films by any means, but it's still, it's fun. I mean, I could watch it. I'm telling you, I could watch this one again right now and still have fun with it. I'm almost thinking the actor or the character of Inspector Legree, they copied him on Naked Gun 30 years later. He might have.

I know you're talking about. It could have been. Did you feel Christopher Lee in this one? Like, do you feel, cause this is a young Christopher Lee, very young. I'll say, I'll say Greg, what I think of a Christopher Lee is I thought he played this one pretty much close to the best.

Yeah, that's what I think he was straight on. Yeah, because he was trying to do something different. If you think about it, the ones he had appeared in or that he was most well known for at this point, because I know he did the Hound of the Baskervilles, I think, before this one as well. But you had horror of Dracula. You had the curse of Frankenstein. You had the mummy. Yeah. Which are very dramatic parts. He's basically playing the monster in all three of those.

Here he gets to play a very different sort of character. He gets to play the voice of reason. And I think that's part of the reason why he was playing it close to the vest. I mean, when you're playing a monster. You can go a little over the top and nobody's going to falter for it. I mean, I'm thinking of that first scene where he comes in and he's all feral.

with the brides in Horror of Dracula after being very proper and, you know, and welcoming his guest. Then he comes in with blood on his mouth, you know, and just like insane. Um, that wasn't this role and he just, he plays it very much like the hero. Yeah, I agree. And I think, go ahead. I was just going to say, I watched one of his that I hadn't seen.

uh over the week called the four-sided triangle in 1953 and and that was christopher lee even younger okay and so i love seeing the development of lee through fisher's lens Yeah. Well, I mean, Lee came out with The Hound of Baskervilles, as you mentioned, Dave, as well as The Mummy. All those came out in 1959. So all three titles.

in the same year and he actually had quite a few titles in 1959 actually uncle was a vampire tales of the vikings the mummy hot money girl the man who could cheat death hounds of baskerville uh william tell which was a tv series so all those were in the same year I'm curious to see the one called The Stranglers of Bombay. Same, same.

I love Christopher Lee. I think, you know, he's definitely finding his own here in 1959. He's definitely a presence, right? You know, he's a very well-looked man. Like, he's a handsome man. He's a taller individual, lanky. He plays a villain really well. I mean, we know this. Maybe not so much here, but we go on to knowing he's a great Dracula. He's great. He can do Frankenstein if he needs to.

do all these characters if he wants to uh but this showed like you said he can play a straight up uh honest you know good He could just play a regular guy. He could play the hero of a film and he could do it. And I think that was part of what he was – well, it's definitely what he was doing here. Sure. it's weird seeing a leaf film where he's not trying to kill somebody. He's not trying to get in someone's pants. He's not trying to be the hero. Although he does, he does have that little.

thing at the end and we're not going to go into it where you're kind of like oh you sneaky little best yes i love the the switcheroo or whatever you want to call it that was classic are you talking about the surgery yeah yes oh crap i'm like oh hot damn you you bastard but then as much as we you know we were into these characters let's be honest we wanted to see what was going to happen i did oh yeah

One of the negatives to me was the reveal at the end. I thought the makeup was a little weak. I can see that. I can see that. But it's.

It's still intent. The guy plays it perfectly. Yes, yes. Not the acting. He plays it perfectly, yeah. I think it's a victim of budgetary constraints. It's definitely budgetary. It's definitely the period of time in 1959. I mean, we're still in the infancy of... of great effects but uh it's certainly it's it's plausible it's definitely something that's not going to take you completely out but uh i do agree it is a little weak but man i had a lot of fun guys y'all got anything else on uh

On this here flick that we're talking about, the man who could cheat death? No. I mean, the only other thing I wrote down of any note that's a talking point is, would you consider this... under the veil of being a bit of an environmentalist movie because he talks about food shortages. He brought that up. You know what? It's very funny. He was using that as an argument for not publishing.

Yeah, he brought that up and it sounded very, you know, very like like, OK, this he was doing it for the benefit of man as to why he didn't publish it. Right. And then he threw it at the end. Oh, and there's also this reason. And you started to think, I think it might be more that second reason than the first reason. And you're just trying to maybe.

Because you're talking to Christopher Lee here, you're just trying to say, hey. And what he's saying makes sense. What he's saying, it's true. What he's saying makes sense. But you also get the opinion that he's trying to justify to himself.

Well, yeah. And that's another thing he was trying to justify. He's been telling himself this for many, many years, but it really is the second reason why they didn't publish more than the first. If I can find that clip, I'm going to insert it right here. Wait a minute, y'all. Listen to me. Once more, and we'll see if you feel the same afterwards. Weiss and I were fellow students. I was his senior by 15 years. His senior? Yes, his senior.

I met him when I returned to university for a refresher course on surgery. Quite by accident, we discovered we were interested in the same line of research. And then... Finally, we discovered the secret of immortal life. But we had to prove what up till then had been only theory. So, I volunteered. to be the first guinea pig. Since I embarked on this experiment, I have never been ill, never had a blemish on my skin.

Sickness and disease have passed me by. So you see, not only did we discover the secret of perpetual life, but of perpetual... health as well. Then why didn't you publish your findings? They haven't published because to do so would bring disaster. The balance of nature is such that the population of the world is kept at a level where the world can adequately provide food and living space for her people.

If it were suddenly made possible for people to remain alive and healthy indefinitely, the whole structure of nature would collapse within one generation. The population of the Earth would be doubled and quadrupled. There would be famine on a scale never before dreamed of. This is... One reason we haven't published. One reason? Yes. There is another. Every ten years it is necessary to have the utoparathyroid replaced.

In order to replace an organ, you must first find a replacement. With no one dying, there would be no replacement. You told me something earlier on about a... fluid that you have to take to keep alive only in the latter stages of each 10-year cycle if for any reason the operation is delayed it is possible to remain alive for four weeks by taking this fluid

It's a really strong, powerful dialogue. I thoroughly enjoyed what he was saying. Because what you said, Bill, it breaks down the mankind of... how that there's x millions of people right and if we eventually get it out that this serum or this surgery could basically give everybody immortality then what happens then multiply multiply multiply nobody's dying you know mankind's made to die so we you know and it evens out right it kind of

you know the earth evens out itself but if you don't have anybody dying Then what happens? You run out of food. Like you were saying, like you've never seen. And that's absolutely the truth. Because then he sort of hesitates like, oh, and then there's also you know so but the other aspect of that is it's almost ironic that you know you can live forever there'll be no more killing but they'll have to be killing because they need those glands that's right

That's right. Because you, you're not, you know, so you, who are you going to take them from? That's right. I don't know that you could take them from anyone who's had the surgery. Now there was that moment where they, where Dr. Vice was like, you mean they're from real people?

yeah as opposed to someone who just happened to what die of a heart attack in the middle of the street no it's it's as like i think like i think the idea was he was getting them from cadavers yeah yeah exactly but i don't think because of what because um And we'll just set this up real quick because it took so long for Dr. Ludwig to get there because he had that stroke and he needed to recover from the stroke. And Dr. Bonet didn't know this. He had to kept getting.

New glands, new glands, new glands. They'd spoil. Another one, they'd spoil. And finally, he's like, I'm getting them from these cadavers. They're not lasting as long. I guess you would have to go to this point. The surgery would cost money.

And I guess you would have to go to people that couldn't afford it. So you're going to go to the seedier, slummier side of town and say, okay, this individual is not going to be able to have this surgery because he can't afford it. So you have been nominated. to be the surgery. I guess that's what you would have to do, honestly. You are the donor. Yeah, you're the donor. All right, that's perfect. I mean, you know.

Well, it depends. They say, hey, we'll set your family up for the rest of their lives, and they'll be wealthy, and it's like, okay. Thanks, Mom and Dad, for letting me be born broke. Kind of like the whole Looper thing from the movie Looper. Yeah. Yeah. Orion Johnson. It's like, okay, you, you, you will live for 30 years wealthy beyond your wildest dreams, but you know, at the end of 30 years, you're dead.

True. And you know, the whole idea is you would sit, you would, your answer at the age of 20 would be very different from your answer at the age of 40. True. That's true. All right, well, let's pass around the ratings on this here, Big Bad Puppy. And Dave, this is one you chose. Let's go to you first. Where do you come in on The Man Who Could Cheat Death? I would say I would give it a seven.

I'm going to say 7.5 out of 10, and it's absolutely worth checking out. You said it's on Tubi? Yep. Yeah, absolutely worth checking out on Tubi. Really good transfer, guys. Yeah, definitely looks great. All right, Bill, where you come out for The Man Who Can Cheat Death? I originally had it at 6.5, but I could probably push it to a 7. All right, so a 7. It's solid.

It's not going to win any Oscars, but it sure isn't going to chase you out of the room either. That's right. So I'm at a 7.5 as well on this one. Definitely check it out, man. I think you'll have a lot of fun. Enjoy the ride. So that is going to be our first feature film, guys.

So I think right at this time, guys, let's go ahead and go to a few voicemails we got here. I think the first one up, I believe, is going to be Derek Johns. Let's see what he's got. Hey, what's up, creeps? This is Derek Johns calling in. I'm not calling in for episode 502 yet. I don't know what it is. I'm on episode 399 still. Almost done. I'm getting ready to start episode 400, the big milestone. But I can't believe I'm...

somehow completely missed the vampires episode. I didn't even see it posted. That's my fault I'm imagining. And so I'd like to at least call in and give my list of top 10 vampire movies. At number 10, I would put Vamp. At number 9, 30 days a night. I know it's a better movie than that. I've always had a bit of an issue with the ending and how Josh Hartner was able to wipe out the head vampire.

as quickly as he did and then just wither away in the sunlight and he just kind of rubbed me the wrong way i wish it was a little bit more visceral maybe the head vampire gets away maybe you know and they kill someone else maybe but Anyway, it's still a great movie. At number eight, I put Abigail. Number seven, From Death Till Dawn. Number six, Salem's Lot, the original one. Nothing to do with that new one.

And number five, Near Dark. Number four, Fright Night Part II. Number three, John Carpenter's Vampires. Number two, The Lost Boys. And number one, Fright Night, the original. And one of my favorite vampire scenes would have to be from a movie that's not even a vampire movie. It's from a movie that I always championed, Fade to Black.

when he dresses up as the vampire and goes to the movies and chases the girl and then just drinks her blood when she accidentally falls on the fence. Anyway, keep up the great work. I will call back in when I know what episode 502 is about. And anyway, keep up the great job, everybody. Love everybody there. Bye. Dave, Greg, Bill, and Pearl. Bye.

Derek Johns, you're making us really old at 502, but I know you meant 402. Yes, I made that same mistake. Yes, yes. Great list of vampires. Pearl was screaming over here in silence. She's like jumping up and down when you said Fright Night 2. in Fright Night. She's like, eee! I can imagine. Definitely Fright Night 2. I know how big she is into that movie. It's a good one. I was going to say, was there a Fright Night 3? I don't think there is a Fright Night 3, right?

No, there was Freight Night, Freight Night 2, and then the remake. Oh, the remake. Yeah. But great list, man. Love the flicks that you chose. The problem is now he's slightly behind, so at some point he has to catch up. Yes. So Derek, next time combine two topics in one call, then you're caught up. That's right. That's all you got to do. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. I got it now. Pearl saying, uh, Derek Johns, if you ever need to know.

you know the next episode just go to features on the land of the creeps group page and click on that and then you can run down and find the post and you'll find it real quick uh so that's the way to figure that out so boom all right it's a cool call man right there so let's go to Okay, here we go. Let's go to this call. Who is this? I don't know. Hey, we are on to the record spotlight of Terrence Fisher.

Aaron Fisher is in my top five of best, of the greatest horror film directors of all time. I mean, I grew up on Hammer Horror Films, and his were the... the pinnacle of all the Hammer Horror films that were out there. I mean, Roy Ward Baker did some great films as well. Freddie Francis was also, but Terrence Fisher was the one that...

Amber horror fans usually always look for when it came to a movie that they wanted to see that would give us the best of Amber horror. I'll just give you my top five of Terrence Fisher's, my favorite Terrence Fisher ones. One of them really isn't horror, but it does have horror elements in it, and that is The Hounds in Baskerville, his take on Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes story with Peter Cushing as Sherlock Holmes.

And I thought that was just a fantastic take on the story. I mean, there have been many versions of Sounds of the Baskerville out there, but that one is definitely one. Another one is The Gorgon, also starring Christopher Lee. That was the first camera horror film that I showed to my son when he was like around 11 or 12. And, yeah, that got him into horror. That helped get him into horror films, camera horror films as well. So next one is The Mummy.

I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed The Mummy. There's that one scene where Christopher Lee, as The Mummy, breaks through the door and grabs Peter Cushing by the throat. And in that scene, when he breaks through the door, apparently they had locked that fake door that he was supposed to break through, and he dislocated his shoulder in the scene. So how he carried it on just shows what...

professionalism he had as dedication as an actor he had. Next one is The Curse of Frankenstein. And I just showed that this Halloween on the big screen for kids to come up and get candy from. You know, that was a fantastic take on the franchise story. But my number one is definitely the horror of Dracula in 1968. That put Christopher Lee on the map as Dracula, as one of the best Draculas out there. All right.

I hope you guys have a great show discussing Terrence Fisher. We'll talk to you next time. Take care. Bye-bye. Bam, Darren from Northern California. Great top five list. I can't argue with it. I'm telling you, he's right on. Very good. I was very pleased to see the Gorgon in his list. Yeah. One that we haven't really mentioned and I revisited the other night. Yeah, it still stands up. Nice. I'm sure we'll talk about it shortly. Let's go to back-to-back calls from Victoria.

terence fisher episode um hope everyone is doing well i have not seen a lot of his his movies and i know a lot of those are you know he he basically It's a hammer horror era, and I have not seen a ton of those. Okay, I've only seen a few, but I do want to see more. I just haven't gotten to it yet. But I did watch... um what is it island of terror the other night this past weekend or there this week and i really enjoyed it uh i do love peter cushy you can never go wrong with him in a movie

And it just, it kind of reminded me of, because I'm watching classic Doctor Who, so it kind of reminded me of that a little bit with the creatures and just everything that happened. Anyway, I enjoyed the movie, and the other two I've seen, of course, are Horror of Dracula, a great movie, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. The scene of Dracula coming in, I think I mentioned it when I...

Talked about the vampire horror of Dracula coming in and seeing the bride, the female vampires, whatever. And he is just... ferocious and terrifying with blood dripping down his fangs and bloodshot eyes. When I think of a vampire, that's one of the first images that always comes to my mind. I think it's so cool looking. The other thing I wanted to mention was in The Curse of Frankenstein.

uh a while back and it's it's from like 2010 i think or something there was a uh a documentary about horror movies and They mention, he mentioned talking about the curse of Frankenstein, the scene where Dr. Frankenstein...

He has brought the creature back, and it's been a while since I've seen it, so please correct me if I'm wrong. He's having an affair with a woman, and she says she's... pregnant maybe anyway he he basically throws her to the monster and she's killed and it's brought up and i think also i heard it one of you guys talking about it and

some podcast somewhere where you say that there's supposed to be a moment of brevity of humor the next morning where victor frankenstein is eating breakfast and it's like the very next scene and he asks his wife or fiancee whatever it is for some butter or modern or something like that. And it's supposed to be like the Terrence Fish, it's supposed to be them showing like a little humor after the horror. And I was so surprised when I...

Oh God, she got cut off right in midstream. Just before you get to the next one, I'm so glad she brought up Island of Terror. That is a fun film if you've never seen it. That's one of the ones that Fisher did, I believe, outside of Hammer. Because after Phantom of the Opera kind of flopped, I guess, the Hammer dropped him for a while. And they didn't pick him up until the Gorgon. Yeah. And so he was filling in between.

and island of terror would have been one of those and uh it's a fun little sci-fi horror check it out again it's on tubi i watched it i don't know last week i hadn't seen it in a while it's a good one i'll have to check that out that's one i actually have not seen i haven't either cool all right let's go to our final call here okay

I've got to be honest, I have no idea where I got cut off because it's early in the morning and I wasn't paying attention. So I'm just going to briefly say that Port Terrence Fish was the one. that sticks out to me is um is the curse of frankenstein and i hope i don't know if i mentioned that the scene that got to me was when i

I'd heard was supposed to be a funny moment where Victor Frankenstein, after having his affair partner killed by the monster, is eating breakfast the next morning. It's like the very next scene. And I found that scene horrifying because... In my mind, how I perceived the scene was he, you know, let this woman be murdered and then went to bed, slept just fine, and then got up the next morning without thought. That wasn't a person to him.

That wasn't something horrific that happened. That was just something. He didn't care. Anyway, that was my interpretation. If I got it wrong, let me know. I'll talk to you later. Bye. Good call. And that's totally, I know exactly what you're saying because that's like, how can somebody be so calloused and so cold? Like, you know, murder somebody that you were having an affair with and then just go next morning.

Where's the waffles? Can I have my Legos or something? Let me have something. He just happened to leave the door locked. Just happened. Yeah, right. That's a good point. Yeah, exactly. So I know exactly where you're going there, Victoria. And I appreciate Victoria calling in. That is the last voicemail play right here. Gunner's email here. He ranked his top five guys and his is number one is the horror of Dracula. Number two is the devil rides out.

Number three is Frankenstein must be destroyed. Number four, Frankenstein created woman. And number five is the curse of Frankenstein. So that is Patrick Gunner's. Solid. Good ones. Absolutely. I mean, you can just watch that whole series of...

Dracula films and just kind of see which ones you like best and which ones you don't. Yeah, just throw them all in a basket and say which one I want. Shake them all up like you're picking M&Ms or something. Yeah, I mean, I really, we've said this way, I know we've said this numerous times. least you have bill and i know dave i think you agree as well for me he is dracula like he played dracula as good if not better than anybody i've ever seen like he is

I mean, he was the first one really to overtly bring in the sexual element. I mean, I don't think anybody's going to mistake Bela Lugosi as Prince Charming. You know. He could have been if he was working in a different era. That's right. Yes. That's right. Yeah, definitely. But, I mean, those eyes, you know, like just.

his eyes and his facial expression and the man was i don't know was he six six it's six four like he was a large man and with that presence with that masculinity with that sexuality with that Power and strength and dominance. He is Dracula. Yeah. And with a man of that size. he has the voice that emotes because they, you know, someone at 6'6 typically has a deeper voice and he does. He has such a strong voice and I love that.

hey guys and gals we've got a special treat for you i'm gonna do a mini review of a brand new 2024 release uh this one is street trash that's right the sequel or not the sequel but kind of a remake sequel to uh the 1987 classic street trash that i just recently watched for the first time go back and listen to episode 400 and uh but anyways we do have street trash from 2024 and we're gonna go to the trailer and then we'll come right back and talk about it for a few minutes here so here we go

We're still going to get paid. Volunteers receiving a dose of synthesized substrate V2H. Please don't put that needle in me. No, no, stop. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. City-wide company is now in effect. You are ordered... to remain in your homes and off the streets. Failure to comply will result in prosecution. It's the eighth consecutive year of Mayor Mustard. Will he be reelected?

in the city homeless are fighting against the government people are fighting for their rights i present to you The crew, the most incredible cry kids that you'll ever meet. I have reduced the number of homeless people in this city to basically zero. The mayor's fucking melting people. They're exterminating everybody. You are finally ready. I'm afraid he might sign up. He's dying. We don't want this party turning into a massacre. Massacre sounds good to me.

There you go with the trailer for Street Trash from 2024. This is just released via streaming right now, so you can go to... Amazon Prime, I think it's like a $3.99 rental, or I think Apple has it for $4.99. But this was directed by Ryan Krueger. And Ryan Krueger, if you've ever seen the movie from Shudder from back in, I think, 2020, Fried... Barry.

uh trippy trippy trippy movie man ryan krueger directed that one well this is another film from him uh so let's look at the synopsis in the year 2050 global economic turmoil has destroyed the middle class in cape town south africa

which is now divided between the ultra-rich and the displaced. Ronald and a group of fellow houseless friends uncover a plot by the local government to wash away the houseless uh population with a sinister chemical agent called v now they must risk everything to expose the truth and resist a society that's determined to erase them uh this movie stars sean cameron michael donna Cormac Thompson, Joe Vaz, Lloyd Martinez, Newkirk.

I'm hoping I'm saying it right. If I am, I apologize if I'm not. S-H-U-R-A-I-G-H Meyer, as well as Gary Green and Warwick Greer.

to round out a few of the members here uh i've got to say if you've ever seen the 1987 street trash you kind of know what you're getting into with the chemical the v quote unquote And, um, it causes a lot of mutating, uh, ooze and goos and just weird, uh, things happen to you when you die like uh there's a lot of scenes where their body looks like a big balloon on your neck will explode and you got all this gore uh so it's got some really fun trippy gore scenes like that with bodies being uh

destroyed by this chemical making them just basically ooze from every pore uh it's just really gooey and and ooey so if you like those kind of cheesy movies you're going to really uh enjoy this one it's a quick 85 minutes long so it's not super long distributed by Cineverse. Uh, and, and I gotta say, I really enjoyed this one. I thought, uh, 1987, I know gets a lot of love and praise. And I do, uh, if you go back and listen to episode 400, you'll see that I was kind of lukewarm on it.

six and a half to a seven out of 10 on it was like it's okay didn't blow me away it was good i actually like this one i think the kills were really good in this one uh it was filmed in south africa uh the cast was okay in this one it's just one of those movies i don't think it's necessarily

Depending on acting, I don't think that's necessarily the strong suit. This is all about the ooze and gore, and you definitely get that in this one. There are some moments of some really cool effects, so I've got to give it up.

to uh ryan krueger for catching that on camera uh this was written by ryan krueger as well as james c williamson and i just i really had a lot of fun with this one it will not make my top 10 for the year but with that said i wasn't disappointed with it so if you got you know four bucks or five bucks or whatever man i would recommend go ahead and renting it uh and checking it out man especially if you're a fan of 1987 street trash or you're a fan of those type films

think of trauma some of traumas like you know the toxic avenger stuff like that this is kind of where you're getting if you remember fried berry once again i'll throw that name out again as well The star of that is actually one of the stars in this movie as well. So I would definitely tell you to go check it out. So I'm going to give it a thumb up. I'll probably give this thing a 7.5 out of 10 and give it a recommendation.

So check it out for $4 over on Amazon, or you can check it out over at Apple if you want to do your Apple or whatever. I think it's like $4.99 over there. So with that said, man, we're going to hop off here and just let you know Street Trash 2024. now. Go get your hands on it. Get you some ooze and goze, my friend. Alrighty, so we'll play some more voicemails after a while, listeners. So we're going to get to our last feature review for the night.

And it's going to be 1964. A sci-fi film. I feel like this should be a monster on my mantle. But on Jay of the Dead's new horror movie podcast. But it's in the 60s. So I'm sticking with the 50s for right now. So maybe once I hit the 60 mark, I may end up throwing this one in there. But we'll see. But anyways, we're going to let Bill give the plot synopsis for the... Earth Dies Screaming. And why did you choose the movie? Suddenly, a man dies at the controls of a train.

Suddenly, a car swerves to destruction. Suddenly, a plane dives to death. dies screaming. Suddenly death descends on the four corners of the earth. and only a handful of human beings survive to live in fear, powerless to combat an unknown terror. Turn it off! Who are you? By the way, I'm not the enemy. I don't know who the enemy is. The earth dies screaming and the robots take over. Starring Willard Parker, Virginia Field, Dennis Price,

She said that she was dead. She was. She was alive enough tonight. Except her eyes. Well, what was the matter with them? She hasn't got any eyes. Here is paralyzing suspense as the earth dies screaming. Electrifying terror as the Earth dies screaming. Jeff! Peggy! Peggy! The robots. What? Peggy! I chose it because one, I enjoy it.

I chose it because it's 62 minutes. I love that time frame. I did too. Thank you very much. But the other thing is, it's a nice little encapsulated story. You've got some interesting characters. But they just give you enough to further the plot. You're not getting into backstories. You're not getting into character analysis. You're not getting into character motivations other than surviving.

Fisher here, you can tell, had a limited budget, but it's nice to see him once in a while working black and white. So I'll give the audience the briefest of synopsises because that's what IMDB gives. In Britain, a group of survivors fights off a deadly alien invasion that uses robots and a poisonous gas to take over the earth. Now, having previously mentioned that this is only 62 minutes,

This really, I don't know about you, Greg and Dave, this to me felt like a souped up Twilight Zone episode. That's essentially what this is, given a little bit of British sensibility to it. Obviously, Fisher directed it. It starred Willard Parker, who was in films, not huge films, Young Jesse James, the 1960 version of Naked Gun, Virginia Fields.

who was in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. And you got Dennis Price, who was in actually a couple of films you might have heard of. Venus and Furs, Twins of Evil, Tower of Evil. Oh, nice. At the beginning of this film, we see train derailments, we see cars and planes crashing, people falling down, dying, literally as they stand. So the lead-in is intriguing.

They got the hook very quickly, which is very much reminiscent of a television show that's episodic. So what happens is Parker is a test pilot. And he drives into town after finding out that some, actually not after finding out, after driving in and he's in his car and he notices things have gone awry.

He notices that there are bodies everywhere. He's just done his test flight up in the air. So he missed some action. And he's come back to realize something calamity has happened. And he doesn't know why. and he wants to figure out what happened so he stops at a local pub which turns out to be a local hotel where it's open and he figures somebody will be in there and he wants to find out what's going on well

there is a cast of characters that eventually milk their way into there. One that was already in the hotel and a couple other characters that come in afterwards because they were survivors. And everybody's trying to figure out what's going on, why did it happen, and why are their bodies littered all over the streets and the fields of England? It's a bit of a mystery.

There's a sci-fi element to this. There's a horror element to this. I hasten to call this a creature feature, but there is definitely an other being presence in this film. a couple that joins them afterwards, and then it becomes a small space survival horror, which is my jam. You've got a small group of people in a limited space and they're trying to figure out how they're going to get out of this situation because they look outside the pub.

There are space creatures or what appears to be space creatures or astronauts or somebody in nuclear suits that are wandering this small town. And we don't know why, who. why they got there and why are they killing innocent adults children people whoever is in their way so there is that sci-fi element there is that horror element

There is that survival element all taking place in an hour. So, you know, like those of us of a certain vintage will remember shows like Amazing Stories. This is very much in that vintage.

The movie is methodical in its approach. The characters are very calm, very British. Nobody ever flies off the handle. The worst is one guy likes to have a couple wobbly pops as he's... enjoying himself or calming his nerves because he is the drunkard but there is no woman screaming there is no man you know can't think straight like a night of the living dead Everybody methodically knows what they have to do, and they figure out eventually what's causing this, and they take action to go about.

solving the problem there is some other human dynamics one of the couples has a young pregnant wife and we kind of see how that plays out the other part of it is is you can't get too close to these things Yet you have to figure out what's going on or this will eventually just continue. Like there's some events involving excursions, characters in bed, and when they awake.

There was an escape attempt by one of the couples. Why this happens, you're going to have to sort out and watch. I'm not going to give it all away. It's a space race film. This is of the age where Russia, U.S. and a lot of countries are trying to race to be the first one into space on the moon discover science is booming at this point this is at the height of when the creature features are coming out or just afterwards just afterwards the creature features but it's still

a nuclear fallout type of feel to this film the ending rather dramatic yet satisfying at least in my opinion I really enjoyed this film because it's concise. It's to the point. The characters are interesting enough. You really do take a care towards what happens to them, but not enough that if someone were to...

fall off along the way, it's going to kill your sense of, I want to keep watching. It's a good, essentially an adventure story. Yeah. Any little boy that's 12, 13 could have written this film, but it's the way that. fisher directs fisher is very good directing people engaging with each other there's a lot of tight close-ups there's a lot of shots with people together discussing

That is one of the things you'll notice with a Terence Fisher film. He shoots people really, really well, and he does it in this film. So given the time of it, when it happens historically. given the small space survival horror element to it, given the director that's given this, I give this a very high score, which I'll save till the end. But I really like this film. What says you?

Yeah, at an hour and two minutes, immediately, I was really excited. First of all, a little correction. There was a woman screaming in this, and we did have one scream. Oh, well, hence the title. But I will say this. The music, I don't know if y'all picked up on this. And this would have been pre-90 living dead. It almost had like a 90 living dead. theme going through this music there is a sense of nihilism to this yes yes which i enjoyed i really dug that um

I felt a little bit of Night of Living Dead in this, even though there again predates Night of Living Dead. But hear me out. You have a individual who is a little off his rocker, thus the gentleman down in the cellar, right, that comes up.

and he wants to do it his way and everything. We got that with the one guy that we meet that... has the woman that he says is his wife which we find out it's not uh and he we see he flies off the rocker eventually so we have that character uh we have the pregnant girl with the man much like the younger couple in night living deaths there's a little

bit of similarity in my opinion i don't know did y'all pick up on that or is that just me just trying to reach and no absolutely and the other thing is the one character likes to overshare and the female end of it is like they don't need to know our entire story just tell them why we're here that's right so i just i don't know i felt And here's the other thing. I really would love for this to, and I don't know if it falls in line, but with dead men walking with Dr. Walking Dead, Kyle Bishop.

would just fit in his zombie scenario would just be something that we could talk him into review and i'd really like to find out that that's true i never even thought of it ironically i was just listening to the episode i did with kyle when we talked about blood quantum And I asked him about certain movies, whether they qualify or not.

But this definitely is one where, you know, I'll probably shoot him an email or a message later after and say, would you consider this a zombie film? That's right. Definitely do. Dave, what do you say on this movie right here? What do you got on this one? I did not get to say it. Oh, you did. OK, that's right. That's right. I did not get to see it. And I'm kicking myself because I have it on a double movie set. Remember the old midnight movies from 20th Century Fox?

It was a double feature with Chosen Survivors from 74, which I did see. Good film. Yeah, it is good. And it's a double feature with that one. So I'm kicking myself because I had this and I just did not get a chance to see it, unfortunately. But and in an hour.

an hour and two minutes it's really quick and here's the thing i'm looking at my midnight movie collection over here right now two packs and i'm like i don't own that why do i not own that because i tried to pick up as many of those back in the day as i could yeah i mean like i'm sure you have the deranged a motel hell one. I do. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, Dave, what you like about it is it's brief, it gets to the point, the action gets told, and then it ends.

It does. There's no... you know, fat to the bone. I guess there couldn't be that. Right. It's just a really fast, when you say fast paced, the movie's not fast paced, but it's hour and two minute. It plays a lot like a Ray Bradbury episode. episode or maybe even alfred hitchcock episode it really plays you know like one of those radio you know when alfred hitchcock had his uh presents the hour could you not see this as a stage play oh yeah

Absolutely. But the robots, or as they call them, robots. I love when I hear people say robots. I just love that. I just love it. Because I'm from the South. I say robots. And, you know, when I hear somebody say robots. Well, I'm from the North, and I say robots, too.

when i first heard that same saying crosses the border yeah i just say i love to hear it say robot and he's like this robot and the robots look really cool like they look uh it's kind of i don't know like they have this the the space helmet the clear uh bowl helmet right that's kind of elongated and then inside you see almost like a welding mask uh

metal with like the wire copper wire so where you'd have electric electrical volts going through it's really cool it's actually really creepy looking but it's funny when i when i watched it and you look close up there's a couple shots where they show their backpack as they're walking away i'm like

that's just some guy's backpack that's all that is yeah and and the suit itself you know they're walking there's even a scene where one of the robots i'm gonna call it robots uh one of the one of the robots is coming walking facing the camera coming toward us and he can't Harley or she I don't know if it's a he or she but anyways the way they're walking they're walking on almost platform shoes Dave so they're having really hard time walking you can tell like they're trying to keep their balance

Like they're really narrow. So I'm like, maybe you should have invested in wider shoes or something. Because this robot is having a hard time walking. But, you know, I guess robots would. How do the Andrews walk around? Andrews. Love it. Oh, no, but this is a lot of fun. I agree with you, Bill. This one would definitely make a Monsters on the Mantle episode for Jay the Dead's new horror movie podcast. That was my challenge to you, Gregory. I want to see you do it. When I hit over into the 60s...

I will definitely put this one on the list. It just screams 1950s post-war, nuclear war scare. This is that movie. It just screams that. And one of the reasons this one also appeals to me, you asked me why. It's one of his few films in black and white. True. You know, post-1957. Here we go again. Predates it, but A Little Night of Living Dead-ish with the black and white. I'm telling you, there's a lot of comparisons to this movie if you really want to dig deep and really think about it.

The framework of the story, the mannerisms of the characters, the makeup analytically of the characters, it's not that far off. So I just wonder if maybe George Romero, I know we've got multitudes of documentaries, and I've never heard this movie mentioned by anybody or even from George A. Romero, so I'm sure it's not. Maybe deep down subconsciously, maybe he's seen this movie and maybe it did. And I'm not.

not saying it was it just just watch it and see it's just maybe me but i just i really the music everything about it but then again there's a lot of stock footage music back in the day that was replayed or like hammer probably had their own internal composers that just made music that could be slipped in and out of various films. Sure. Elizabeth Luke. This was a hammer movie then? I don't believe it. I'm not sure. I'd have to look it up.

No, this one does not. I'm not sure. Let me look down. This would have fit that frame where I don't know if he was on their payroll. No, it's not in. It was Lippert Films. distributed by 20th Century Fox UK. This has nothing to do with Hammer. Oh, they said nothing. Yeah, because they don't see Shepard in studios. Oh, actually, it was shot in Shepard Studios. Oh, was it?

Okay. It's one of the British horror films composed by Elizabeth Luton, whose father Edwin Luton's designed Manor House Lodge. Oh, and Dave, in 2016, Kino Larber came out with the DVD. Okay.

of this i would still i would still like to have the one that you got day because i would really like to have the midnight i love the midnight movie i like them too and especially with this one with chosen survivors because that's two survival movies you got there And Chosen Survivors is really a clever one with the bats, like everybody's in a cave.

And they're led to believe that there's a nuclear war up above and that they were the ones chosen to survive. But is that the truth? No. You know, and did that really happen? Or are they just or are they? Are they part of an experiment? Maybe. You know, which which which could be. But then they find out there are killer bats in the cave. So they research these caves very well. And there are killer bats as Jackie Cooper in it. Richard Jekyll, Bradford Dillman. It's got a it's got a real.

good cast well the other thing i the appeal to this film the earth die screaming is there's anybody here that likes the scientific end of horror You know, you like the ones that meld that, you know, you've got your creature horror films back in the day, back in the space race. This was kind of the tail end of that, but it's got the science element to it.

So you're not going to see a lot of, quote unquote, killing that's of a vicious nature. But there is definitely terror involved. There's definitely. I mean, this would have been. Yeah, for the time, this would have been a pretty creepy movie if you're watching, because this is not appealing to the horror community. This is a sci-fi film, so you would have had a different crowd going to watch this than you would, say, somebody wanting to go see a Dracula.

or a Frankenstein movie. You would have had a different crowd. So I think it's some terrifying moments in this one. Yeah. The alien's eyes reminded me of the cover of the Scorpions album, Blackout. Absolutely. They had like forks on there. Or even Queen. What's the album by Queen? It might have been Night of the Operas. There's a Queen album that has a really similar look. I'd have to go back and look at it. But anyways, there is one out there. Look it up. In 1983, the Earth Dies Scream.

was used as inspiration and a title for an entire 2600 video game. Released by Fox Video back in 83. There you go. Oh, and then Fox was releasing the shittiest games back then. They were. 83. Their games were shit. I mean, Fox's games were pure shit. They got in too late. They put no time. They even released MASH.

MASH was still a viable property at this point because I think it might have even still been on the air. They were heading into their last season, I think, but they were still on the air. And even that game sucked.

Yeah, Everything 80s podcast. Go check them out. Everything 80s podcast. I know Brian Scott's a huge fan as well as I am. He's made mention of this. 83 was the crash of Atari's system, and it wasn't necessarily because E.T. games yeah people making crappy games we had a game called chuck wagon it was basically like a dog food chain released a freaking atari game like everybody was releasing atari games nobody had a hold on it

It was like the Wild West of video games because it was brand new. And, you know, she had some good ones. You know, Activision put out some great games. They did Pitfall and they had the hockey. some of the sports ones that were really good um iMagic had a couple interesting games but even Atari themselves uh when they released first off they you know everyone talks about E.T. and E.T. wasn't great

But I didn't think Raiders of the Lost Ark was all that great a game either. Certainly not anywhere near the level of the movie. But it's funny. At that point, I had the 2600. That was the last video game system I owned, the Atari 2600. Oh, wow. My friend down the road had ColecoVision.

ColecoVision was the, we ended up getting ColecoVision and that's what we were playing the whole time because the graphics were like, you know, off the charts. And we had Intellivision too. And I liked, there were certain Intellivision games that we played all the time. So we did have that. How about UB40? UB40 released a single, The Earth Dies Screaming, in 1980, which it says spent 12 weeks in the UK chart, peaking at number 10. There you go. And the first track on Tom Waits, 1992.

album Bone Machine is titled Earth Died Screaming. Now, I'm... Calling out our good friend Luke Beeman and the boys at Lespecial. Yes. Could this not very much be played in the background while they do their show? Yes. They should do this like they did the cabinet of Dr. Caligari. Yes.

Or, you know, yeah, do the play a scene and they fill in how it would be because this is very much up Luke's wheelhouse. Come on, Luke, baby. Make it happen, brother. Make it happen. Come on. You can do it, my friend. It's funny. Every once in a while. I'll throw him. I said, well, you know, how is life on the road? By the way, here's this really gory film you can watch with the boys. First eight minutes of this movie is silent. Uh, no speaking because you don't realize that. And then you go.

That's right. Nobody talked. Nobody talked. It's a really, really quick film. Like I said, it plays like an Alfred Hitchcock presents or Alfred Hitchcock hour or a Ray Bradbury more because of the sci-fi element, but still really good film. I thought. the tension's there the acting's good you got you know people turning on each other you know you got scenarios of you got to solve something and you got to get to a certain spot by a certain time technology

comes into effect with radio, ham radio waves and stuff. It's really fun. It's a really fun film. I love that scene where they're discussing how they got there and the one guy's like... Yeah, we met at a company party. And then we went to the back room. But wink, wink, you know, I wanted to make sure there was a coach there. We know what you were doing.

We have a pretty good sense. We know what you were doing, perv. We know exactly what you were doing. We don't need an extreme explanation for it. Oh, my God. The earth is dying screaming. We don't really need to know all this.

There is a really, really amazing effect of eyes that are... become whited out zombie like you can totally tell bill and dave when you watch this you'll know this i don't want to spoil too much because you haven't seen it dave but the the you can tell they have put a prosthetic eye across their eyeballs so they can't see you can tell

They're walking blind. You can see them stumbling. That one scene where the guy's pseudo-wife walks towards him. That's all I'll say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, this is pre-things you put in your eye. These are... the prototypical of the colored eyes well i thought at first i thought they were contacts but they're not if you look real close they actually put a complete prosthetic

over their whole eyelid so their eye is under a patch basically and they've made these look like eyeballs so you can tell they're walking blind uh you can see the actual prosthetic around the outer edge of the eyeballs. But still, for 1950, what is this again? 1964. 1964, black and white, whatever. I'm okay with it. This is a fun movie. This is definitely one I would recommend checking out.

as well so both these movies in my opinion have been bangers yeah and the thing with it is is they say it's shot in surrey england which is which is fine i i don't know the town at all but they had to have cleared it out Like, they used the businesses. You could tell these were actual houses. These are actual businesses. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. This isn't some made-up set back on a lot, you know. Yeah, absolutely. What else you got on this bill before we pass around our rating?

Not much other than to say, you know, I don't know how far they had to search to find a generator. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I know. Last thing. The aliens in this might have been the prototype for Michael Myers or Jason Voorhees. They just have that, you know, that slowly paced walk, yet they always catch up.

They're very stealthy, though. Very stealthy, these guys. They're probably wearing 30 pounds worth of crap on their back. Just the head alone. I mean, good Lord. Yeah, that backpack and that helmet. They're actually... running it's just they're not moving it looks like it's somebody's fish tank on their head that's right and a helmet under that so you got like a double or the globe of a light or something So where do you come in on this one, Bill? I give this an eight.

Easy eight. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to come in with this one. I'm going to actually have to go with a 7.5 as well, man. I really enjoyed this one, and I'm going to recommend it. They're both on Tubi, like you mentioned, and Pearl said, and she did. was talking about this through the whole movie you kept saying village of the damned it felt much like a village of the damned and i i gotta agree with you it did feel kind of village of the damned uh to an extent

To an extent, the fact that it was shot in England and the fact that you have this town, not much happens there until something happens there. Exactly. All right, so 7.5 for me, 8 for Bill, and then that was 1964's The Earth Dies Screaming. And then we had our original, our first film, which was 1959, The Man Who Could Cheat Death.

Once again, we had Dave at a 7-5, Bill with a 7, and myself with a 7-5. So that's our reviews for the night. We're still going to have some stuff to talk about, but we've got some more voicemails to get to as well. So I think we will go ahead. And do that as I make sure that this here radio chat thingy is working. Let's go to this voicemail. Hey, Land of the Creeps. This is Chris Bartoli from What's the Mask calling. What's up, Chris? Hope everyone's doing well.

So first thing I want to do before getting to like the Terrence Fisher was I just want to comment real quick on the.

400th episode i just want to say you guys killed it that it was so fun listening to that episode and all the ones leading up to it too it was like a great payoff um i loved hearing all the listener questions that was you know all the calls and stuff was was really a lot of fun and as you guys were answering the questions even in my head i'm answering them myself you know answering them myself which was a lot of fun and as far as bill's beard goes

waffle cheese fries is what i came up with i don't know why it just popped into my head and i'm like yeah what the hell not that i want to but if i had to who knows why right But, again, like I said, all the calls, man, it was so much fun to listen to. And one in particular I just wanted to mention, when Victoria, when she called back and that call was like, wow.

and i'm like boy that's exactly like it how i felt the whole everything and i'm sure a lot of uh the people in the group feel the same way and she just articulated it way more better than i ever could and it made me think like You know, Lane to the Creeps is so much more than just a podcast. It might have started out that way, but now it's gone into something just, you know, it's crazy. I mean, I don't know if you guys had that plan from the beginning, but...

Whether you did or you didn't, man, this thing just took off, and it's very special. And I'm just happy to be a part of it in my own little way, man, like I really and truly am. Okay, so with that out of the way, let's talk about Parents Fisher. and you know a lot of times when i would watch movies that like i haven't watched the hammer movies it's been a while and so back then i wasn't really looking at like directors and this night i mean i know my favorites

So I would look them up. I'm like, wow, a lot of these movies I'd seen. But I wanted to pick three movies that not only had I not seen, but I didn't want to do like... you know the dracula the frankenstein i wanted to kind of stay away from like the four big um monsters which is like you know frankenstein dracula wolfman and the mummy and i ended up doing the mummy but i'll explain that after

but uh so the first one i want oh and also i tried what i wanted to do was i wanted to do three movies with peter cushion because i remember when i first saw him when i was a kid when i went to see star wars i just thought the guy was amazing and so I wanted to do three with Peter Cushing. It just so happened that all three I picked. Christopher Lee was in them also. But anyways, so the first one I did was called The Gorgon. Or The Gorgon? Gorgon? How do you say? From 64.

And I really liked the story on that one. It was almost like a little mystery to it on who the Gorgon might be and stuff. And I kind of figured out who it was about halfway through, but I still really enjoyed it. Joined it a lot. And it got cut off, but I want to mention where he was talking about the podcast. Thank you so much, let me say. Yeah, that's really great. We're happy to have you and Victoria and everybody else as part of that and that you think that way. And was it plain?

No, but you always hope for something like that, obviously. And I think it's the hard work of Greg and Pearl and keeping the community going on Facebook and everywhere else. But thank you very much. That's always very gratifying to hear.

Much appreciated when we can pick up a listener kind of partway, midway through this, who champions it and tells his friends and tells people and the enthusiasm is great. And we know you love your horror history and you have your particular characters that you like, but your positivity is.

awesome. I love the message the other day about Led Zeppelin. He sent me a message out about Led Zeppelin. This is, you know, the type of people we love to have and tell your friends we need more. That's right. Absolutely. Let's go to his next voicemail. Hello, it's Chris again. I know I got cut off. I think I was gushing too much about the podcast, but that's okay. I left off with the Gorgon, and I don't remember where exactly I left off, but one thing I wanted to say.

as far as also with Peter Cushing, is he is so much fun to watch on screen. And he's so interesting. Even if he's doing something as simple as like... you know, pouring tea or whatever, and just the way he speaks, talks, and I just really, really enjoyed him. So the Gorgon I definitely really liked. The next one I watched was the Hound of the Baskervilles from 59.

And it's a Sherlock Holmes story. I was familiar with the title, but I really didn't know anything about the story at all. And what I liked about it, it had like a little hint of horror and mystery. And it's got like, you know. Just people doing bad things, which is always kind of fun to watch in these movies. And again, I think Cushing was great as Sherlock Holmes. It actually had a nice payoff.

the story made sense and i really really liked it man that's another one i enjoyed and i would recommend that one and then the third one i did was the mummy from 59. like i said before i kind of wanted to stay away from those like the main four you know monsters even though I think Hammer only did one movie about the mummy and one about a werewolf. But I tried to get like, to watch Island of Terror. And there's a couple other ones I tried to get and I just, I couldn't.

find them and there was like one app that had but every time i'd go to click on it wouldn't play so i went with the mummy and i'm so glad i did because this was another first time watching me from 59 and i've seen like all the uh you know the universal mummy movies and remember the ones that came out in the 90s this one was probably my favorite out of all of those i mean christopher lee is the mommy in this i mean what i liked is he's like

He's just crashing through doors, crashing through windows, just going through his victim. It's unrelenting. I liked it a lot, man. So yeah, that's another movie that I really, really liked, and I would recommend that one too. And so those are three movies that I just watched them all in one day on Monday because last weekend was pretty busy. I was hoping I'd have time to do it, so I just took Monday and did it. Anyways, that's all I have for this call. I love you guys.

Also, Pearl, it was great hearing you on the 400th episode, too. You definitely so much a pilot. It's like everybody involved. So that's it. That's all I got. And thank you for keeping horror alive. Bye. What a great call, man. Good Lord. Oh, where do you go from there, man? I just really love that you went outside of the Major Four. Pearl said thank you, by the way. I love that you went outside the Major Four and came in and went a different route, and you got that Gorgon in there and Hounds.

of Baskerville and everything. That's really cool, man. I really liked it. Now, Chris, I'll say to you, I know you stayed away from the biggies and either you've already seen the Dracula and Frankenstein or you haven't and you're going to get to it. One not to gloss over is The Curse of the Werewolf. Yeah. Oliver Reed is one of the most underrated actors in the history of cinema. A world-famous drunk. A world-famous asshole.

But the man can act. Yes. And he brings a certain level of professionalism to the role as the Wolfman in a story that's very different than anything you had seen before that. And there's a very dramatic ending to that film. Was he drunk in this one? I don't know if he was. Oh, you guarantee when they were making it, he was. But I don't know that he was drunk in the movie. Could you imagine a room with Oliver Reed and Robert Shaw? That must have been.

terrifying if you were the director you're throwing peter laurie and the three would have just had a bar just closed you you you want to know the real nightmare is when you had oliver reed and klaus kinski working together and in the movie venom because they hated each other and fought every single day on the set. So you can try to imagine corraling those two. The amount of abuse that, what's his name, took in Jaws from Robert Shaw. Yes.

run that much but he did it did revolve around drinking yeah when when they would uh sort of go after each other yeah they did a revolve around robert shawls drinking to bring it all the way back uh curse of the werewolf Anybody who hasn't seen it. Yeah. If you're a werewolf person, guy, gal, whatever, watch it. But you know, another one that Fisher did is his Phantom of the Opera with another very underrated actor, Herbert Lam.

Oh, Herbert Lam. Now, when I think Herbert Lam, I immediately go to the Pink Panther films where he's Inspector Dreyfus. But he has been in a lot of genre films. He was in Mark of the Devil. I think it was Mark of the Devil.

um uh he was in uh i know he was in 99 women the uh the uh just franco movie he's been in a lot of of genre films and doing a great job and i think he does a great job in the fan of the opera so that's one of the things that that um like you were saying hammer hammer and and terrence fisher they would find these really great character actors and and give them these parts he was also in one of my favorite gothic films of all time the mask of the red death oh yeah absolutely

Oh, wow. That is, that and the, the, the, the tomb of Lygia are my two favorite of the, um, the. the poe corman but when you look at the massacre red death with its brilliance and then you look at you know some of the hammer films and the heat of their god yes they're they're very much there there's a lot in common there's just cousins of each other yes absolutely

You can even see it in the first one, the House of Usher. You can definitely see it in that one because that one is a little bit more dialogue heavy, just like the ones we were talking about tonight. But it works and it and it works with with with that gothic feel. But I mean, if you look at the Poe films and you look at the Hammer films and you saw Ingrid Pitt walk down the stairway, you wouldn't know which which company was producing. Right.

Very true. You just wouldn't. Yeah. Nice. Let's go to, thank you for calling in, Chris Bartoli. Yes. Let's go ahead and go to Greg Bench. Let's see what Greg's got. All right, Land of the Creeps, it's Greg from Ohio, and, well, yeah, you know, we just got past our 400th episode, and you guys posed that question, and, oh, boy. I am deficient on Terrence Fisher movies. I've seen a few, there's no doubt about it, especially the early ones with Christopher Lee as Frankenstein and Dracula.

But, yeah, when you look at his catalog of movies, it's an empty spot. I guess it's just something I don't think about. But, yeah, so this one will definitely be a very enlightening episode. I have a feeling I'll take some good notes and write down some of the suggestions, some of the movies you guys cover and the ones that maybe you guys like more than others will probably get added up on the top of the list.

I'm just not there. It's just not me. The horror of Dracula and the curse of Frankenstein were the only two that came to mind when you first said Terrence Fisher. And then I was like, I don't even know if that's the right. person and of course it was but you caught me i i i'm not even going to be able to bench myself this time because i have uh you know i i have nothing really to add and i feel kind of foolish but uh i enjoyed both of those movies

Again, yeah, this is all on Bill. Educate us, Bill. Come on, Dave. Give us a good schooling on old Terrence Fisher. Greg Amortis, I know you're going to have some good colorful commentary. Can't wait to hear the episode. And, well, we're deep in November, approaching Thanksgiving, and I hope everybody has a good Thanksgiving because this will be playing right before the holiday.

So happy Thanksgiving to all. Bill, I know you already had your Thanksgiving and it looked delicious. But as for everyone else, I suppose just don't overeat. Eat just the right amount, and you'll all see my smoked turkey because it'll be so moist and delicious, and I will share the photos. So we'll talk at you later. Bye. We stumped.

the bench. I thought he was going to bench himself. He was getting real close there. I don't know how close he got, but he's going to cut off any second now. And I'm thinking, how ironic. that Greg Bench will bench himself saying, I have nothing to say. 22 seconds. Oh, you know what's funny is we all love Greg. He's absolutely wonderful. He's a fantastic guy. Everybody appreciates you, Greg. Don't worry about that.

But I wouldn't have considered him that disciplined to know when he hit the four-minute mark. Yeah, really. But I thought for sure he was closing in on it. But and I look forward to those pictures every time when he posts when he posts the. the uh the meals that he makes oh and you know what's funny is i always kind of unofficially say that american thanksgiving black friday is when you start your christmas shopping

As we record this on the 20th of November, I am done mine. Wow. That's crazy. That's crazy talk, Bill. So now all I got to do is bend over and start rapping and my back won't enjoy that. Because the reason I'm done early is because I shop for like 10 people. And so we start in August.

Oh, wow. Something's on sale, you just grab it. Something's on sale, you just grab it. There you go. At this point, I spent many a Christmas Eve hunched over wrapping these things. And I said, I turned 50. Fuck that. There you go. Good for you. That's a good place to be in. Let's go to Greg P. and Amy Lee. Hey, this is Greg P. Russell calling in. Aimless this time. I just thought I would share a little bit of the Terrence Fisher stuff with you guys. I think for this episode I watched...

The Hounds of Baskerville for the first time, which I like the source material too much to watch some of the films, and I decided I'd go for it. I really liked it. I loved the gothic feel. It definitely had a horror feel to it. You could just line it up next to all the Frankenstein and Dracula films that he made as well. Love the color, the bright red blood.

And, of course, you know, the sexual type stuff, the voluptuous women, which was probably a little scandalous for the 1950s to start with. But, you know, today it just plays. fantastically uh lastly i'll just say the devil rides out is my all-time favorite film by him also like a lot of weekly stuff as well the writer um i think that's about it Thanks for keeping horror alive, and I'll talk to you guys next time. Bam. Gruesome twosome.

Not twosome tonight, but, uh, this time. Yeah. Love them. I don't know that Amy would, I don't know. Amy may enjoy some of those. Who knows? She, she, she may. I, I, I'm not surprised she wasn't like on, on this call. I definitely knew Greg would be here.

would be a fan of some of them and then and i think i have to agree of all of the ones even the great early films i think the devil rides out is probably my favorite terence fisher so freaking good i just recently watched that one like a couple nights ago And I'm like, oh, my God, dude, this is so freaking good. It's the one movie that went. And then when I think it might have been in the commentary.

on the DVD or maybe it was just an interview where Christopher Leaf said it's the one film he's been in that he wouldn't mind a modern remake of to get it to the special effects. But I don't know. that it would have that same vibe. Yeah, because it's 1968, so it's hitting right before the 70s, you know, satanic panic era. You know, we had so many satanic films, but this one does really resonate.

resonated with me man it just it's really a strong film like Christopher Lee's amazing in it as always you know you know that but uh it just has some really good visual uh scenarios going on it's a really visual movie but you know as good as he was who was the the guy who played the heavy in that charles Charles Gray, who of course was in... I like how horny he was. Yeah. Charles Gray also was at the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Yes. And when I say horny, it's not what you think.

Exactly. It's a different one. No, yes. But if you've not seen The Devil Rides Out, holy cow, do yourself a favor. That's right. Watch it. I'm telling you. It's a good one if you want to have a beer or two, if you want to have a joint or two, if you just want to sit and watch a film where you don't want to think, but it kind of...

It predates Rosemary's Baby. It does. It was just ahead of the curve with the satanic panic. Yeah. It's a fantastic film. It really is. It really is. And it does a lot of creative. uh there are a lot of creative moments in it where you're just kind of like whoa that was really cool if you never knew what yeah

If you never knew what a pentagram was, you will after that. Yeah, absolutely. The one scene, there's a car chase scene where Christopher Lee's chasing, right? They're able to do something to where... You know, the window fogs up, you can't see, blah, blah, blah, it crashes. There's some really cool moments, man, like that in this movie. So it's really fun. But you can tell the budgetary limitations. It was definitely, yeah, well, of course, absolutely. I mean, I mean.

There's a superimposed arachnid. You have that. You have a few superimposed moments. I think that gives it character, though. I do, too. You know, it's like the Ray Harryhausen stuff where you know what you're watching was done in a garage with clay, but damn if it doesn't feel alive and if it doesn't bring life.

Yes. To every scene that these creations appear in. I kind of like that about that in this movie as well. Yes, it might be interesting to see a modern remake, but it's not going to have Christopher Lee. I was going to say with the caveat of it not being CGI, that doesn't improve it. Yeah, CGI would, you know, and that might have been what Christopher Lee was talking about because it was a later interview. But I don't know that I agree with that. You know, because you're going to do CGI.

then you better make it a $150 million movie because otherwise it's not going to look right. Exactly. Let's go to... Let's see here. Let's go to... This is the individual we knew was going to call in on this one because this is right in the wheelhouse of Andrew from West Virginia. Oh, yeah. Andrew's good.

I can guarantee Andrew really looked forward to this episode. Yes, we were anticipating this one for sure, and he called in. He ended up making three calls, guys, so we got three calls back-to-back from him. So we can't wait, man, because he is really – Dave, you know he championed. Black and white horror.

30s, 40s. He was on our Lon Chaney episode. I don't know a listener that appreciates classic horror more than Andrew. Agreed. And when we did the Lon Chaney, he actually sat right beside me. He was in the house. We did the Lon Chaney, which was really cool. I could reach over and smack him in the face. Smack! What do you think of that, Andrew? Smack! Hey, Andrew, look at this. Smack!

Anyways, we love Anderson. Certainly not a selling point to podcast next to Greg. This is true. This is not saying anybody wants to podcast with me now because I'll say smack. That's Pearl. Smack. No, I'm just kidding. Pearl would kick my ass. Holy cow, dude. Now we know why poor Pearl can't podcast anymore. No, because she would whoop my ass. Trust me. I am on my P's and Q's around Pearl. Trust me.

So here we go with Andrew's first call. Greetings from West Virginia. Greetings. Hello. It's Andrew. Really excited for this episode. Terrence Fisher. directed so many of the great classic Hammer films. The first Hammer film I ever saw as a kid was The Hound of the Baskervilles. i was i was obsessed with that over the years as i got older um i tried to track down more of the hammer films and my uncle who is

Huge movie buff, just like me. He and I can sit down and talk about movies for hours. I mean, hours and hours and hours, and I'll get bored. He always told me to... Look for the films that were directed by Terrence Fisher. So that's what I'm going to look out for. But, I mean, he has... Love Terence Fisher. I mean, so many of my favorite Hammer films are his, like The Hound of the Bachelors, of course.

The Curse of Frankenstein, The Mummy, Horror of Dracula, Brides of Dracula, The Curse of the Werewolf, Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed. So many. I'm going to go ahead and stop this and call back because I don't want to get cut off. So I shall return. I shall return. And he does that on all three calls. He doesn't even go the full three minutes. I like that. He's trying to make sure he doesn't leave us on cliffhangers. I know what he's doing.

He wants a complete thought per call. Yeah, I love it. So let's go to his second call. Guess who? Okay, I'm back. It was always... Always something about the Hammer films that were directed by Terrence Fisher that had just like an aura of class to it. If that makes any sense. Like, you always knew whenever you were watching one of his films. It just had an aura of class to it, I think. And, I mean...

If you think about his track record and the amount of films that he has made for Hammer and how so many of them are still to this day. considered classics and like if you've never seen any of the hammer films you need to check these out and i just think that's awesome And I'm so happy that you all are talking about him because this is going to be a great episode. And it's going to, for people who have never even seen.

A hammer film. It's going to just completely open up a new doorway. I just think that is awesome. You know, I can't wait. I love so many of the Hammer films and especially Terrence Fisher, so I can't wait. Can't wait. Alrighty, well, time to go to work. Get the shit show started. Hope you all have fun. Can't wait to listen. Take care. Bye.

I always get a kick out of Andrew when he goes into work. He's like, the shit show. He's always like, I got to go into the shit show. His vent that sometimes he does. I get you, Andrew. Trust me. I totally get you. We're all there at times. Oh, my God. When it comes to work, you know, and I've talked about it and I was in the deli again today. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh, somebody absent and you had to use your expertise? I was just asked to help out in the deli. I did for an eight-hour shift, average of about... 32 slice it thins per hour. Um, so yeah, I'm there, but I always, and I think I might've caught it here before, but I always go back to a line from the Drew Carey show.

Where he's talking, you know, someone's complaining about the job. He goes, oh, you hate your job. You know, there's a support group for that. It's called everybody in the world. Yeah, we hear you. We feel you, brother. How many pounds of Capicolo today? You know what? None. Oh, wow. No Capicola today, surprisingly. Or hot ham. And those are the two for, I guess, not too many people making hoagies. I always wondered when people got that.

that loaf with like a chunk of macaroni in it or something oh we don't we don't carry that anymore like like what was that um oh i know what i know what you're talking about it's it's like it's like macaroni loaf or something it's a loaf it's it's a yeah it's a loaf and and anything with the word loaf in it is not you know like like pickle and pimento loaf you might see an olive floating in something yeah that's it's it's a head cheese cheese yeah my brother makes head cheese yes i love it yeah

Anything like that. Let's go back and listen to Andrew's last call here. Bring us home, Andrew. Let's see what we got, buddy. Okay, I lied. I'm back. i had to mention at least one hammer film directed by terence fisher that i've always liked and it's the brides of dracula It's actually a sequel from Horror of Dracula, even though Dracula isn't in The Brides of Dracula.

But it does have Peter Cushing as Sven Helsing. And it is a really great movie. I highly recommend it to anybody who hasn't seen it or if they are a fan of... vampire films, definitely check out Brides of Dracula because what's so great about it is, of course, you have fantastic Peter Cushing, but also the story is good. and the atmosphere that's what is so great about hammer and especially with terence fisher's films the atmosphere is always on point

It is just, it's perfect. So I highly recommend that one. That one is probably one of my favorites. Yeah. And the Hammer Frankenstein series with... Peter Cushing, because if I'm not mistaken, Terrence Fisher directed all of the Frankenstein films with Hammer starring Peter Cushing. All of those are great. the curse of the werewolf is another one and um there's so many there's so many okay so this is my last one i promise there's so much to say

Anyway, love y'all. Peace out. See you sometime soon. That is Andrew's call in, and what a great call, man. Yeah. Great call. Yeah, enjoyed that. I haven't seen Brides of Dracula in ages. It's revisited. I remember it was one of the Dracula films that didn't have Christopher Lee. I'm just looking up. The guy's name was David Peel. But I'm going to say, Andrew, there's one major actor you didn't mention. As the coachman, Michael Ripper.

he's the coachman he's the doorman he's the drunk he's the bartender he's the police officer sometimes he's the drunk doorman the drunk police officer or sometimes he's the officer and the doorman right that's right i just watched brides of dracula back on november 10th i gave it like a seven i enjoyed it i really enjoyed it

And like I said, it's different because Christopher Lee isn't in it. But he nailed it. Peter Cushion is Peter Cushion. He played Van Helsing like none other. And the other thing, Andrew, you didn't mention or you might not have known is –

By the end of, I don't know, 71, 72, Fisher had had his fill of hammer. He was done with them. They didn't get along well. He had pretty much crossed that bridge. But at the behest of Peter Cushing... he came back to do frankenstein must be destroyed there you go all right let's go

Let's go to Ian Urza, and then we'll finish up with Brian Scott tonight. So let's go to Ian Urza. I don't know if we have enough time for Brian's. I don't know. We'll squeeze him in. Let's see what Ian. Sorry, Brian and Matt Damon. We ran out of time. Bye. Brian's like, fuck you. I can see Brian there. Taking a big puff saying, fuck you, Dave. Yeah, that's right. That's right. He's saying it right now. Say it all together right now. Love Brian Scott. So let's go to Ian first here.

Hey guys, it's Ian Erza just sending you a quick recording about Terrence Fisher. Terrence Fisher, you know, was the person who executed... the style of what Hammer Horror was, right? Hammer Horror was this sort of vibrant color, basically... remakes or sort of new takes on a lot of the universal monsters and it wasn't just that but that's certainly what it's it's more well known for and he directed films that were

You know, he directed films of all of those different monsters. The Mummy is a really great film. Maybe my favorite version of The Mummy, truth be told. But he also directed films within the Frankenstein and Dracula franchise. The Hammer Horror franchises of those as well, as well as like movies like Curse of the Werewolf and the Gorgon.

And he even did a Robin Hood film, which I still have not watched the Hammer version of Robin Hood, but I really would like to watch it. I think it's like the Sword of Sherwood Forest or something. And I think he even did plenty of films independent of Hammer Horror as well, including some with Christopher Lee. And I think including a Sherlock Holmes one that he did with Christopher Lee that wasn't necessarily a Hammer Horror film.

When you think of Hammer Horror in terms of filmmakers, you usually think of him first. I mean, Roy Ward Baker also made some great films with Hammer Horror. But to me, Terrence Fisher is the guy who often executed that style. You know, you have to usually think of him when you think of Hammer Horror or the other way around.

that he he really is a guy when it comes to that and he directed some of my absolute favorites uh the devil rides out is great Frankenstein Created Woman is not only my favorite within the Frankenstein series for Hammer Horror films, but it's my favorite Hammer Horror film in general is Frankenstein Created Woman and even Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell, the last one in the series.

Um, is basically an early splatter film it's got david prowse in it that's an awesome film so when you look at hammer horrors run he was basically there from beginning to end you know from you know 1958 i think from about 1975 when of where frankenstein and the monster from hell came out so that's you know that's a really good run for him there and he directed a lot of films in between with a lot of different monsters and a lot of great actors and

Definitely, I mean, he probably got to work with Christopher Lee probably over 10 times considering all the films he directed with him and them, so... Terrence Fisher is awesome. I think it was a few months ago when one of my Facebook friends basically was challenging people or saying, hey, rank your top 20 favorite directors or whatever. And I know Terrence Fisher was definitely in.

my top 20 just because of all the hammer horror films he did that you know i thought were awesome and i think it would be awesome if um if more filmmakers talked about what they thought about hammer horror films i think martin scorsese has talked a little bit about how he

how he enjoys them and he admires them. But I wish some people would come out there and maybe give Terrence Fisher and some Hammer Horror films a little bit more love. As always, guys, thanks for letting us send in our recordings and call in our voicemails to the show. show and i hope it goes well awesome great call ian and uh i i'm gonna tell you devil rides out once again i'm totally with you dude i'm with him too yeah definitely yeah and ian corrected me

Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed was the last one that he did with Peter Cushing. And that was the one where he basically finished himself with Hammer. But Cushing personally said, can you direct this film? And he was like, okay. It wasn't a money thing. It was just he did it at a loyalty to Peter Cushing. That's right. Love Ian's call, man. You can hear him every other Friday when we do Black Glove Mysteries, so check that out. Black Glove Mysteries, right.

I was just going to say I expected a call from Ian because he also appreciates the classic. Horror. And I knew he would give some sort of in-depth response. Agreed. So Brian Scott emailed in and said, here goes my horror cred. I never had heard of Fisher. Oops. Bad man, very bad man. Yes, you're a bad man, Brian. Brian's amazing, dude. He loves Silent Night, Deadly Night. He loves 80s. He's my brother from another mother. So that's, yeah, there. That's right.

you heard it brian you're my brother from another mother brother uh let's go to his voicemail here yep i was gonna say he's my birthday brother that's true too yeah here we go hey guys horror movie fan boy here brian scott Terrence Fisher, know nothing about him, haven't seen any of his movies. So I'd love to hear you guys' recommendations. And so I'll just make this call very random. After that number 400, which congratulations.

On that 400th episode last week, I posed a very tough question to you guys. What is your favorite horror movie that has no sequel, no remake, no nothing? And I had to go all the way to my number 25 horror movie, Christmas Bloody Christmas, to find one that wasn't attached to any of those. And... Out of frustration, Bill challenged me on that after I called and said, Brian, what's your top five non-horror movies? Well, not horror movies. I'll reel them off real fast.

Wolf of Wall Street, Scorsese. Django Unchained from Tarantino. My favorite in the Rambo series, the original First Blood, 1982. And then how about Clue, 1985? And Dream Little Dream, 1989. A little bit from each genre out there. And I'm going to say this. It's never too early to watch a Christmas movie. I'm going to say that right now before Thanksgiving, already watching the Christmas movies. And oh, by the way, I did. We did go see Heretic, the Hugh Grant horror movie. And this is.

One of the most well-written movies I've ever seen. It'll easily be in my top three of this year, so check it out. L-O-T-C for life. Bam, and The Heretic, if you listen to episode 401. Pearl and I on Mortis Vision did our quick review of The Heretic, and Jay of the Dead, we're going to be doing a review over there as well. So, man, I'm telling you, it's a must-watch, in my opinion. It's really good. Nice. Really good.

I really look forward to that. I have so many 2024 films I need to see. I got some catching up to do as well. I've seen quite a few. I'm over 30, but I still got plenty more to go. I still have to see The Last Omen. I still have to see Oddity. There's so many I still need to see. And yet I still keep watching these crappy ones on Tubi just to...

Keep watching them. We will have to. We have not scheduled it officially, but I'm thinking probably sometime late January is probably a good time to throw out our top 10 of the year, I think. The other thing I was thinking, Greg, is as we do some show planning live on the air, is an episode in the next little while where we each choose a 2024 film we haven't seen so that we can catch up on ourselves. That's not a bad idea.

Too late. Too late. We're already scheduled, so there you go. You got to do that on your own time, Bill. You know Pearl's already got us booked halfway through 2025. Yeah, we've already got Shark Week. planned dude yes you should see literally like her book and her calendar like dude it's it's insane the amount of work she puts in planning shows i was gonna say but i will say without her we would not be as as organized as we are

No, that is true. We will one day put her book in the Smithsonian of horror podcast and it's going in there. It's going to be epic. She is the sometimes silent partner. That's right. She's always the silent partner that comes out boisterous. I love it. She's a ton of fun in a little package, dude. I'm telling you. Hey, guys and gals, Greg and Mortis here. We had a couple of voicemails come in late after recording.

but of course we're going to put them in here. It's none other than the great Monkey Bones. Let's see what old Monkey Bones has been up to. Oh! This is Monkey Bones sitting here with Greg. From West Cackalacky. That's Washington State for you Southerners. No problem, man. What? Greg, what's your favorite horror movie of 1984? The Ghostbusters.

No, that's what Kim said. You're stealing Kim's shit. But Blues Brothers isn't a horror movie. Well, Blues Brothers is horror depending on how you look at it. Anyway... I haven't called in for a while. Mr. Watson is ignoring my text right now. Anyway, I love you guys. Craig Bench, no problem, man. Thank you for keeping horror alive. I'm going to make this one short. Love you guys. Happy belated birthday to the...

I'm thinking of her name. I'm drinking, so, um, Happy Thanksgiving is late for that. Kim said, about three Kims said Happy Thanksgiving. Um... Anyway, I'm hanging up because I'm making no sense. Love you guys. Thank you for keeping horror alive. No problem, man. Bye. Monkey bone, you silly, silly boy. First of all, Greg from West, uh, West khaki lackey. That's pretty good. I got to give that one up. Uh, Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters, absolutely great movie. And three Kims.

Can we handle three Kims? Really, monkey bone? And what's up with Mr. Watson? Why is he not answering those texts? We got to get a hold of that. Hey, inquiring minds need to know. And we got one more voicemail from the man himself, Monkeybone, who I'm glad you finally called back, brother. We missed you. So let's go to that voicemail. Land of the creeps, this is Monkeybone.

Calling in again. I'm sitting here with the Greg Immortus of West Cackalacky. That's Washington State for you Southerners. Greg, what do you think your favorite movie of whatever? With werewolves and shit. It's got to be Silver Blood by Stephen King. Yeah, he keeps horror alive, that guy. What else do you think about that movie? It's one of the freakiest movies I ever saw as a youth. Yeah, he was a youth one time back in like 1999. And then I'm sitting here with about three Kims.

What do you think, Kim? What do you think about horror movies in 19 America? Love them. They're classic, and they never die. They never die like the werewolves unless you have a silver bullet. Anyway, sorry for everything I've done about. Watson's not here because he's getting the best or he's similar to the guy. He's doing that. Anyway, love you, Greg. Thank you for keeping America alive. No problem, man. Bill VanVegel. Amazing. I love you too, Monkeybone. Bill.

amazing of course he is i do love to call man it's silver bullet great choice love love love love silver bullet love stephen king he's definitely helping keep poor alive with absolute sincerity uh so thank you monkey bone for calling in and

I'm going to text Watson and see what's going on. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Love you, buddy. That is all the calls. We're done with the calls now. And I want to pass it around to the guys because... you know to give out we've talked a little bit about terrence fisher but i still want to give everybody

time to say any other spills that they want to say about them and any other movies they want to talk about i'm giving free reign and we're going to pass it over to dave first and dave take it away brother for any movies, any other talk, anything you want to do about Terrence Fisher or Hammer? Actually, I'm just going to say one thing, and it's that, you know what, Brian, you don't have to worry about your cred. Everybody...

At least I am. I'm jealous you get to see these movies for the first time. So enjoy them because you've got a lot of good movies to discover. Agreed. One million percent.

uh it's it's fun and we'll do this with bill because bill i'm not throwing you under the bus but you haven't seen rosemary's baby yet uh there's movies like that that i wish i could see again for the first time and i'm like jealous like you said dave that people are able to go back and watch i think mac saw psycho for the first time recently like it's crazy to think like man i would love to be able to experience it for the first time again imagine imagine experiencing psycho

in the theater during that initial screening when hitchcock came over and threatened bodily harm to anybody who gave away the secrets knowing that you know that there has been no spoiling whatsoever of psycho at that point Agreed. That would have been, oh, wow. Can you imagine seeing Jaws?

For the first time in the theater. Yeah, Jaws without any idea of what's coming. Or The Exorcist. The Exorcist, yep. These kind of films. Yep, things like that and getting to see them for the first time. I mean, it's special. It's really special, your first viewing of those movies. And yeah, so it's certainly never anything to be...

to be embarrassed about. There's too many movies out there. There's too many damn movies out there for everybody to see everything. I mean, you know, it's just, it's... it's ridiculous how many there are and and someone says oh yeah you know there's this This classic from 1972, one of the best movies ever made. I'm like, oh, I've never seen that. It's the way it is. Yep, absolutely. All right, Bill, what you got, buddy, right here now? To finish off, I appreciate you two boys.

giving me this episode because he is a director that not that many people know by name uh they might have seen some films that didn't realize it is him or like brian know very little and have a whole treasure trove to experience. No shame, no shade on anybody. It's something like a Pandora's box. Once you kind of get in there, you'll watch five of them because he's set.

the standard and the style of Hammer films. And if you don't know Hammer, again, I'm not saying that I would be very excited because then you get to discover all the goodness that they had. So give them a chance. There is a certain population amongst our listenership that don't watch anything beyond before 1975 or 1980. Give it a shot. To me, Hammer films are comfort films.

giallos hammer films and the universal films are my comfort films other than watching somebody get eviscerated or something but depends upon my company terence fisher is the lead amongst the hammer directors please go in with an open mind and give them a watch. And Brian, you always have my horror cred. You're one of my best friends I've met on here. I text with you almost daily. Keep it up. I would love to be in the room the first time you watch Devil Rides Out.

You'll love it. So guys and girls, let's have some fun. Absolutely. For me, same thing. I'm just going to just. jump on the bandwagon and talk about how much I love Terrence Fisher. And there's still a hole of some films that I've not seen that I definitely want to go back and watch. And some that I've not seen in years, House of Frankenstein or Horrors of Frankenstein, some of the...

uh, those, you know, early hammer films, man, it's been a long time. I need to go back and revisit a lot of these and I will in the near future, man. I want to say if you have not seen them, We're recommending go out and search out some. Look up some Christopher Lee, Peter Cushion goodness, man, and see what Hammer Film gave us in the 50s to the 70s. Man, they gave us some really, really fun.

Gothic, creepy, sometimes gory, sometimes, you know, goofy, but they definitely gave us some really strong films. So definitely go check those out. I do want to say before we close this out, a huge... Happy Thanksgiving Gobble Gobble Day to each and every one of you as this releases, which will be on a Tuesday before. It's actually two weeks before Thanksgiving. Or no, it's the week of Thanksgiving.

Yeah, a week from today is Thanksgiving. Holy shit. So yeah, two days before you get to the American. And the beauty of Thanksgiving is tryptophan. This is true. Which is the chemical that makes you sleepy. It makes you sleep. So have yourself half a pound of turkey, some heavy gravy and wine. You will be on that couch for hours. Yep. And the other good thing about this is, is for us, movie.

collector is Black Friday is going to have some amazing sales. They've already been having some great sales. So if you've got some extra dough on your hand, get you some movies, I recommend that. Build up that collection to where you might actually get up where Dave's at one day. I doubt it, but it's okay. And Dave is currently renting shelf space. I don't know where. Yeah, right. So I do want to say once again, happy Thanksgiving to each and every one of you. Thank you. I'm very thankful.

personally for you. i'm telling you each and every one of you you just mean the world to us uh so very thankful for you because without you what are we going to be doing we're just going to talk to each other and we'll still have a good time but it's fun to have other people listen to you so uh huge thank you to that pearl says Thank you and happy Thanksgiving as well. So with that, Dave, what is the next episode 404 going to entail?

All right. Well, we are getting heavy into the Christmas season. So right in unison with that, we're doing an episode on voodoo. It is number 404 is going to be the voodoo episode. We're going to be looking at movies like, well, one of the ones we could certainly talk about this, give people a chance to see it, White Zombie. Bill had mentioned The Serpent and the Rainbow. Those type of films. I Walk With a Zombie, you know, the Val Lewton movie. We were talking about Sugar Hill from the 70s.

So there's a lot. Anything that has voodoo as the theme. And don't forget Trilogy of Terror. That's right. And Trilogy of Terror with the last segment. Yeah. Yep. i'm not the one who's so far away when i feel the snake bite into my veins never did i wanna Be here again. And I don't remember why I came. I thought you were going to break out in white zombie. Hell no. Kendall raised my desire. Why I'm so far away. No more meaning to my life. No more reasons to stay freezing.

Feeling, breathing, breathing. I'm coming back again. Oh, boy, Godsmack ain't got shit on me. You hear that, Sully? You ain't got nothing on me, son. I'll take you down to tonsil town, boy. These tonsils will scream out that song. You'll be like, damn, I wish I could sing like Greg Amortis. No, I'm just kidding. I love Sully. So anyway, voodoo. Voodoo. Damn it. All one person was cheering me on and Dave's like, fuck you, Greg. Let's go on. You know what? I love the energy.

I would have loved it more an hour ago. Yeah, I love it. So voodoo, get your voodoo calls in 1-804-569-5682. Thank you for tuning in each and every episode. It really means the world to us. So Dave, your final. outros before we hit the stop button all right well this is uh hopefully we continue to do episodes like this Where we focus on a on a filmmaker and not necessarily like the.

The main ones like like the like the George Romero's or the Toby Hooper's or the John Carpenter's who a lot of people are already very familiar with. I like this idea of getting into one like outside the. comfort zone, to look at some filmmakers who maybe not everyone in the community is in touch with. Don Doller? Don Doller? Who the hell is Don Doller? Oh, there you go. Yeah. There you go. Let's, let's...

Let's put Don Doller on the list. Tell Pearl to put that down there. Maybe by episode 532, we'll be looking at Don Doller. Don Doller. There you go. So, Pearl, there's your homework. But anyway, this this was this was great. And hopefully we introduced some people to. to a new filmmaker if you were not already familiar. And as we saw, there were quite a few people who were very familiar with Terrence Fisher already. My plug's the same as always.

infatuation.com I have the DVD infatuation podcast that's still going but we also have the weekly watch list podcast over on considering the cinema where where jay mac and myself talk about what we've been watching recently uh which has been a lot of fun uh i really get to get to uh get to see a lot of uh uh eclectic movies all three of us do uh so check that out as well jay of the dead's new horror movies still going strong

Every time it drops, it's a major, it takes up a lot of space. Because I think they average, it's hours. I'm not sure exactly how many hours, but every now and again, you'll see a seven hour episode drop. So definitely check that out over there. And. Other than that, I look forward to the next Land of the Creeps, looking at Voodoo, and to find out, you know, all the other movies that are out there that maybe we haven't, that I didn't mention, and I'm sure there's...

probably of the ones we talked about leading into this episode. I'm sure there's probably 10 times as many that you, the listeners, will refer to when you call in. And we would like to hear from all of you. That's right. I'm going to try to do some deep dives. So cool. Thank you, Dave, for that. So let's head over to Bill. What you got in closing, brother?

I love this episode. I think he's a fantastic director. I think everybody should jump in and at least try one or two of them. One that never got brought up today. I can advise people to check out is Night of the Big Heat, 1967. Well worth a watch. As far as today's episode, I enjoyed it. Good one.

Good phone calls. For those that didn't call in, it gives you the chance to jump in and investigate and have fun with it. And I really look forward to voodoo. I like a little bit of island magic, as they say. So it's going to be a fun episode. As far as myself, they're currently released not that long ago an episode of Jay's New Horror Movies with our friend Kyle Bishop, Mr. Walking Dead. And we went over the review of the film, the Canadian film, Blood Quantum.

Check that out. I'm currently researching an episode I'm going to do for fellow creep Brian Schaaf, where I will review Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young's album, Deja Vu. and creating a list of my favorite 90s albums, which is always interesting because I pretty much stopped listening to current music in the mid-90s. So I'm always grambling to find it, but it'll be fun.

Anyways, it's a certain time of upheaval now depending upon what happened with the election. I could care less to be honest with you. I hope everybody has a good time. Everybody is happy. Everybody deals with their stresses in different ways. Watch a horror movie. Have a cold drink. Be good people. And let's keep horror alive.

That's right. And so for me, Facebook, Instagram, X all them spots, YouTube really soon coming at you live and strong. Well, not live, but it'll be coming at you strong soon. Stay tuned. uh cannot wait for that so with that happy thanksgiving once again enjoy your time with your families and friends and and uh don't eat too much you know what the hell am i talking about eat as much as you want

One time a year. Fill that belly up. Go pass out on the couch and watch some football or scratch your nuts and watch. I don't care what you do, but just have a good time. Can I watch football and scratch my nuts? You can do both. Do your best Al Bundy you want to. That's fine. I just say have a good time. It's your time to just chill.

So with that, all you people that are cooking, be careful. Be safe. Don't burn the house down or anything. Stay safe. So we're going to sign out. Pearl says bye to everybody. Happy Thanksgiving as well. And we're going to see you on the flip side. Help Keep Poor Alive. We do that one movie at a time, one review at a time. Until next time, peace.